Deluded Currency Cultists Believe The Dollar Is Invincible

by | Mar 12, 2014 | Headline News | 317 comments

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    At the onset of the derivatives collapse in 2007/2008 it would have been easy to assume that most of America was receiving a valuable education in normalcy bias.

    In 2006, the amount of ego on display surrounding mortgage investment was so disturbingly grotesque anyone with any true understanding of the situation felt like projectile vomiting. To watch the smug righteousness of MSNBC and FOX economic pundits as they predicted the infinite rise of American property markets despite all evidence to the contrary was truly mind blowing. When the whole system imploded, it was difficult to know whether one should laugh, or cry.

    The saddest aspect of the credit crisis of 2008 was not the massive chain reaction of bankruptcies or the threat of institutional insolvency. Rather, it was the delusional assumptions of the public that the grand mortgage casino was going to go on forever. There is nothing worse than witnessing the victim of a Ponzi scheme defend the lie which has ultimately destroyed him. As much as I am for people waking up to the nature of the crisis, there comes a point when those who are going to figure it out will figure it out, and the rest are essentially hopeless.

    The cultism surrounding the U.S. economy and the U.S. dollar is truly mind boggling, and by “cultism” I mean a blind faith in the fiat currency mechanism that goes beyond all logic, reason and evidence.

    In recent weeks it has become more visible as global financiers play both sides of the Ukrainian conflict, luring Americans into a frenzy of false patriotism and an anti-Russo-sports-team-mentality. My personal distaste for Vladimir Putin revolves around my understanding that he is just as much a puppet of the International Monetary Fund and international banks as Barack Obama, but many Americans hate him simply because the mainstream media has designated him the next villain in the fantasy tale of U.S. foreign policy.

    Open threats from Russia that they will dump U.S. treasury bond holdings and the dollar’s world reserve status if NATO interferes in the Ukraine have been met with wildly naive chest beating from dollar cultists.  I am beginning to see the talking points everywhere.

    “Let them dump the dollar, Russia’s holdings are minimal!” Or, “Let them throw out Treasuries, they’ll just be shooting themselves in the foot!” are the battle cries heard across the web. I wish I could convey how insane this viewpoint is, especially in light of the fact that many alternative economic analysts, including myself, have been predicting just such a scenario for years.

    Despite the childish boastings of the dollar devout, there is an extraordinarily good possibility that the life of the greenback will be snuffed out in the near term. Here are the facts…

    1) Russia will not be alone in its decouple from the dollar system. China, our largest foreign creditor, and India (a supposed ally) have clearly sided with Russia on the Ukranian issue. China has stated that it will back Russia’s play in the event that sanctions are brought to bear by NATO, or if a shooting conflict erupts.

    2) China has already been slowly dumping the dollar as a world reserve currency using bilateral trade agreements with numerous countries, including Russia, India, Australia, Brazil, Germany, Japan, etc. These agreements allow FOREX currency swaps and export/import purchases to be made with China without the use of the dollar. China has been preparing itself for a divorce from U.S. economic dependence for at least a decade. The idea that they would actually follow through over political tensions should NOT surprise anyone if they have beenpaying attention.

    3) A total drop of the dollar or U.S. treasury bonds by Russia and China would send shock waves through global markets. Russia is a major energy supplier for most of Europe. China is the largest export/import nation in the world. If they refuse to accept dollars as a trade mechanism, numerous countries will fall in line to abandon the greenback as well. The fact that so many Americans refuse to acknowledge this reality is a recipe for disaster.

    The only advantage the U.S. has traditionally offered in terms of international trade has been the American consumer, whose unchecked debt spending partly fueled the rise of the industrialized East, not to mention the biggest credit bubble in history. The role of America as a consumer market is collapsing today, however. The mainstream media and the Federal Reserve can blame the steady decline in retail sales on the “weather” all they want, but negative indicators in global manufacturing often take many months to register in the statistics, meaning, this destabilization began long before the days turned cold.

    4) China has been shifting away from export dependency since at least 2008, calling for a larger consumer based market at home. This process of enriching the Chinese consumer has almost been completed. The lie that China “needs the U.S.” in order to survive economically needs to be thrown out like the utter propaganda it is.

    5) China (and most of the world) has ended new dollar purchases for their FOREX reserves, and has no plans to make new purchases in the future.

    6) China executed the second largest dump of U.S. Treasury bonds in history in the past month.

    7) Russia, China, and numerous other countries, including U.S. “allies”, have been calling for the end of the dollar’s world reserve status and the institution of a new global basket currencyusing the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR). Even Putin has suggested that the IMF take over administration of the global economy and issue the SDR as a world currency system. This flies in the face of those who argue that the IMF is somehow “American run”. The truth is, the IMF is run by global banks and no more answers to the U.S. government than the Federal Reserve answers to the U.S. government.


    8) The Federal Reserve has been creating trillions of dollars in fiat just to prop up U.S. markets since 2008, and we are still seeing a considerable decline in global manufacturing, retail, personal home sales, and a general malaise in consumer demand. Without a full audit, there is no way to know exactly how much currency has been generated or how much is floating around in foreign markets. Any loss of world reserve status would send that flood of dollars back into the U.S., most likely ending in a hyperinflationary environment.

    9) Another rather dubious argument I see often is the claim that the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury could simply “negate” a Treasury dump by refusing to acknowledge creditor liabilities. Or, that they could simply print what they need to snap up the bonds, much like the German government tried to do during the Weimar collapse. Unfortunately, this plan did not work out so well for the Germans, nor has it worked for any other nation in history, so I’m not sure why people think the U.S. could pull it off. However, this is the kind of cultism we are surrounded by. These folks think the U.S. economy and the dollar are untouchable.

    Yes, the Fed and the Treasury could hypothetically erase existing liabilities, but what dollar cultists do not seem to grasp is that the dollar’s value is not built on Treasury purchases. The dollar’s value is built on faith and reputation. If a nation refuses to pay out on its debts, this is called default. A default by the U.S. would immediately damage the reputation of bonds and dollars as a good investment. Global markets will refuse to purchase or hold any mechanism that they think will not earn them a profit. How many investors today are anxious to jump into Greek treasury bonds, for instance?

    Finally, it is unwise to operate on the assumption that foreign creditors will accept dollars as payment on U.S. Treasury bonds if they believe the Federal Reserve is monetizing the debt. When Weimar imploded under the weight of currency devaluation, many foreign governments refused to accept the German mark as payment. Instead, they demanded payment in raw commodities, like coal, lumber and ore. Expect that China and other debt holders will demand payment in U.S. goods, infrastructure, or perhaps even land.

    10) Most treasury holdings in foreign coffers are not long term bonds. Rather, they are short term bonds which mature in weeks or months, instead of years. Dollar proponents constantly cite the continued accumulation of treasury bonds by other governments as a sign that the dollar is still desirable as ever. Unfortunately, they have failed to look at the nature of these bond purchases. When China rolls over millions in short term bonds and replaces them with other short term bonds, this does not suggest they have much faith in America’s long term ability to service its debt. It would also make sense that if China had plans to remove itself from the dollar system, they would move into short term bonds which can be liquidated quickly.

    11) China is on the fast track to becoming the largest holder of physical gold in the world. Russia has also greatly expanded its gold purchases. Whatever losses they might suffer from a dump of their Treasury bond investments; it will be more than made up in the incredible explosion in precious metals prices that would follow.

    12) The most common argument against the dollar losing world reserve status has been that such a shift would be “impossible” because no other currency in the world has the adequate liquidity needed to replace the dollar in global trade. These people have apparently not been paying attention to the Chinese yuan. China has been quietly issuing trillions in yuan denominated bonds, securities and currency around the world. Current estimates calculate around $24 trillion created by the PBOC and the banks under its control.

    Mainstream talking heads are calling this a “debt bubble.” However, this debt creation makes perfect sense if China’s plan is to create enough liquidity in its currency in order to offer a viable alternative to the U.S. dollar. Linking the yuan to the IMF’s basket currency would complete the picture, forming a perfect dollar replacement while dollar cheerleading-economists stand dumbstruck.

    13) China’s retreat away from dollar denominated investments has left a hole in the U.S. bond market.  Recently, that negative space was filled by an unexpected source; namely Belgium.  A country whose GDP represents less than 1% of total global GDP buying more U.S. bonds than China?  The whole concept sounds bizarre.  Here is the capital coming from?

    Think about it this way – Belgium is the political center of the European Union and a haven for international financiers.  There are more corporate cronies, lobbyists, bureaucrats, and foreign dignitaries in Belgium than in all of Washington D.C.  But more importantly, Belgium struck a deal with the IMF in 2012 to begin pumping SDR denominated funds into “low income economies”.  I would suggest that this funding flows both ways, and that now, the IMF is feeding capital into Belgium in order to buy U.S. Treasury Bonds.  That is to say, the IMF is going to start using smaller member countries with limited savings as proxies to purchase U.S. debt using IMF money.

    The ultimate danger of the IMF (run by internationalists, not the U.S. government) pre-positioning itself as the primary buyer of U.S. debt is that when the U.S. finally defaults (and it will), the IMF is likely to become the “guardian angel” of the U.S. economy, offering aid in exchange for total administrative control of our financial system, and the institution of the SDR as a world reserve replacement for the dollar.

    14) The serious prospect of regional conflict or world war over tensions between the Ukraine and Russia, Japan and China, the U.S. and Syria, the U.S. and Iran, the U.S. and North Korea, etc., could make the effort of exposing the plan to shift economic power into a one world system centralized under the IMF almost meaningless.  How many people will truly care about the financial power grab by banking elites if it drifts under the surface of catastrophic engineered wars?  They’ll be too busy hating and fighting artificially created boogeymen to pay attention to the real globalist culprits.

    I have been pointing out for quite a long time that globalists need a “cover event”; a disaster, an economic war or a shooting war, in order to provide a smokescreen for the collapse of the dollar. Alternative analysts have been consistently correct in predicting the trend towards the dump of the dollar. Years ago, we were laughed at for suggesting China would shift towards a consumer based economy and away from U.S. dependence. Today, it is mainstream news. We were laughed at for suggesting that nations like Russia and China would drop the dollar as a reserve currency. Today, they are already in the process of doing it. And, we were laughed at for suggesting that Russia or China would use their debt holdings as leverage against the U.S. in the event of a geopolitical conflict. Today, they are openly making threats.

    I have to say, I’ve grown tired of the dollar cultists. How many times can a group of people be wrong and still argue with those who have been consistently right? The answer is that zealots never actually escape their own delusions, even when their delusions lead them and those around them to ruin. I suspect that in the face of complete dollar collapse, they will still be rationalizing the chaos and pontificating on our “lack of understanding” while the theater burns down around them.

    You can contact Brandon Smith at:  [email protected]

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      1. 02

        LOL all based on NOTHING except the lies of the tribe.

        • eppe

          Is that the Nirvana’s baby all grown up?

          • BJ

            That’s Durango Kidd scooping up his $10 bills for his #10 cans.

            • John Q. Public

              Kudos to Brandon Smith. He is among the very small group of analysts who understand the tribe’s us-versus-them theatre.

              Remember the tribal banksters’ forte is instigating wars for profit and consolidation of power.

              The synagogue of Satan has been repeating the cycle for millennia—parasitizing the host and moving on when they have killed (and looted) the host.

              Understand that now.

              Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

              • Barn Cat

                The synagogue of Satan was the name given to the Jews who opposed Christians in the first century church of Smyrna. The early church was mostly Jewish. All the leaders were Jewish. It’s idiotic, slanderous, and just plain wrong to refer to all Jews for all time “the synagogue of Satan.”

                • 02

                  The haven’t changed .. so what should we call them now?

                  • durango kidd

                    Eppe: Engage! Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote. Make every ballot count, because the Change YOU want is not gonna happen until Jesus comes.

                    It is human nature for some people to desire to dominate, control, manipulate, and exploit other human beings in any way they can. WE are flawed, consumed by the delights of this world and immersed in it.

                    Its hard to rise above the temptations of the world.

                    WE can only regulate human behavior just so much and retain the Free Agency God gave US. That said, WE must be active and participate in OUR government because politics IS the responsibility of Free man and women who want to remain free and chart their personal and collective destiny.

                    Until Jesus comes, His work on earth must truly be OUR own. 🙂

                  • durango kidd

                    Point No 9: The FED is under NO OBLIGATION to repurchase bonds before maturity. Period. The US is NOT repudiating any of its debt, but it is refinancing its debt; especially through short term issues at lower rates as other debt matures. That’s no different than a consumer refinancing his house at a lower rate.

                    The last I looked US Debt / GDP ratio was about 105% and DECLINING; lower than most nations in the West except Germany. After WW II America’s debt /GDP ratio was 125%, so WE are well within acceptable parameters. Cyprus had a debt to GDP ratio of over 400% when it defaulted and it was not using the WRC dollar but the euro when it happened.

                    Only the Retards have threatened to use American debt and default as a political weapon. Not gonna happen. There are unique but ingenious ways to skirt that issue if the Retards make that mistake.

                    Debt default will not happen. Fear mongering. 🙂

                  • durango kidd

                    Point No 13; “China’s retreat away from dollar denominated investments has left a hole in the U.S. bond market. ”

                    There is no longer a need for China to purchase US bonds. The transfer of the wealth of the American Middle Class has ended. China must stand on its own. The China Template will be transferred to the western Hemisphere just as soon as the ink is dry on the TPP. Then you will see the transfer of wealth continue there.

                    There is no “hole” in the bond market. The FED can purchase ALL US Bonds and I wish they would. Then WE audit the FED, audit the gold, indict the GB’s, and then hang ’em.

                    The NWO is large enough to do business among and between themselves and do not need anyone who does not want to join their club and follow their Rules. Everyone else is a useless eater.

                    Kill the FED, death to the New World Order. 🙂

                  • durango kidd

                    Point No 14: Response. When the premise is wrong the conclusions are wrong. Brandon you have missed the most important points in your rants about the dollar.

                    1. The dollar is the currency of the New World Order and any collapse would have to be intentional. They will not destroy the instrument of their wealth and power.
                    2. It is the weapon of choice as they spread their wars of crony capitalism around the world.
                    3. China is a full and Senior Financial Partner with the GB’s.
                    4. The NWO does not need any particular nation to be successful. It has reached critical mass and it is absorbing smaller economies like a sponge.
                    5. Membership has its privileges. Those without membership will be on the outside looking in and salivating to get in.
                    6. Members who do not play by the Rules will be punished.
                    7. Members who play by the Rules will be rewarded, as bribery has long been the MO of the Globalists.
                    8. There is NO alternative to the dollar.
                    9. Those who control the dollar and the wealth and power that it conveys, will not give up that wealth and power without a nuclear war.

                    The GB’s may be greedy, despicable, demonic mother fuckers, but I am glad they are MY GB’s. Still I would hang them if I had the chance. 🙂

                  • CBGB's

                    Our money will be gone like magic… Poof!

                  • John Q. Public

                    Special Delivery for Barn Cat

                    FIRST, quote where I said “ALL” Jews. I did not and you cannot.


                    The Word of God defines “…the synagogue of Satan, those who SAY they are Jews, and are NOT, but do LIE.” (Apocalypse 3:9, “Revelations” in the Protestant-censored “Bible”) The Word of God damns the Pharisees for “making void the commandments of God for the traditions of men.” Mark 7:9 The Word of God double damns the followers (“proselytes”) of the Pharisees as “twofold children of hell” more than the Pharisees. Matthew 23:15


                    The rabbis boast that they are followers of the Pharisees. (see following post)


                    God gave you free will so that so can accept Him or deny Him—and, in attempting to bless what God Himself damned, you deny Him.

                  • John Q. Public

                    God gave YOU free will so that YOU can accept Him or deny Him—and, in attempting to bless what God Himself damned, you deny Him.

                  • John Q. Public

                    In their own words:

                    “Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism. But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaptation of custom, and adjustment of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered.”
                    Rabbi Dr. Finkelstein, The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith, The Jewish Publication Society of America (1946) p. xxi

                    “The Talmud is the written form of that which in the time of Jesus, was called the ‘Tradition of the Elders,’ and to which He makes frequent allusions.”
                    Michael L. Rodkinson, The History of the Talmud: From The Time Of Its Formation About 200 B. C. Up To The Present Time, Kessinger Publishing, LLC (June 8, 2006), ISBN-13: 978-1428631366, p.70

                    “Jews don’t read the Bible literally. We read it through the lens of generations of interpretations and acknowledge the evolution of human understanding of God. The Talmudic image of God is vastly different from the image of God presented in the Bible.” Rabbi Laura Geller, Senior Rabbi, Temple Emanuel of Beverly Hills, California
                    Huffington Post | April 2, 2011

                    “This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians – that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression. Judaism is not the religion of the Bible.”
                    Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser, Judaism and the Christian Predicament, New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967, p.59, 159

                    The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single member of that literature, and round it are gathered a number of Midrashim, partly legal (Halachic) and partly works of edification (Haggadic). This literature, in its oldest elements, goes back to a time before the beginning of the Common Era, and comes down into the Middle Ages. Through it all run the lines of thought which were first drawn by the Pharisees, and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.”
                    Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 3 pg. 474

                    “The complex of rabbinically ordained practices … including most of the rules for the treatment of Scripture itself–do not derive from Scripture at all. Rabbinic Judaism’s initial concern was with the elaboration and refinement of it’s own system. Attaching the system to scripture was secondary. It therefore is misleading to depict rabbinic Judaism primarily as a consequence of an exegetical process or the organic unfolding of Scripture. Rather, rabbinic Judaism began as the work of a small, ambitious, and homogeneous group of pseudo-priests …By the third century (A.D.) the rabbis expressed their self-conception in the ideology of “oral Torah” which held that a comprehensive body of teachings and practices (halachot) not included in Scripture had been given by God and through Moses only to the rabbinic establishment.”
                    Rabbi Jacob Nuesner, Rabbinic Judaism: Structure and System, pp. 31-34

                    And, yes, the religion of these self-proclaimed followers of the Pharisees is the GENOCIDAL STATE RELIGION of “Israel,” the very same religion and free-will followers that Jesus Christ Himself damned for their belief and behavior, not their genetics, whether semitic or Khazarian.

                    Go ahead, Barn Cat and the rest of you deniers, go ahead and deny Jesus Christ if you will. Go ahead and bless a religion and behavior that Jesus Christ Himself damned if you will.

                  • Goober

                    What a bunch of Jew hating bullshit you guys have allowed a Prepper site to become. You sound like a bunch of skinheads. Wrong site for anyone with more teeth than tattoos. I’m out !

                  • durango kidd

                    BRANDON FIRST RESPONSE

                    “What you don’t seem to grasp, Durango, is that the dollar is nothing but an expendable currency mechanism to the elite. “

                    RESPONSE: Yes Brandon the dollar is expendable, just as every other historical WRC has been used up. But not yet. The dollar is the weapon of choice and there are nations yet to subdue. Right now there is no replacement on the horizon. Eventually the PTB will return to a metals backed money and digitize currency, where no one can buy or sell except by using the “Mark of the Beast”. That is years away and quantum computing will usher in that reality.

                    “Their goal is to condition the masses to abandon the concept of economic and political sovereignty. They NEED a centralized global currency to influence the public towards “global think”.

                    RESPONSE: Yes, their goal is to condition the masses to think globally. That is the purpose of Agenda 21 and the new PTB religion: Ecology.
                    “The dollar has to be sacrificed in order to give birth to that global currency, which is why the IMF is positioning the SDR as a replacement.”

                    RESPONSE: No it does not. Eventually the dollar will be sacrificed to a digital world currency but that is many years away and much must happen before that day. Right now the dollar IS the global currency and it IS the life blood of the NWO Uber Rich. The IMF is a creation of the Creature from Jekyll Island. The FED is NOT controlled by it and never will be. It functions as a SUBSIDIARY of the FED and other Central Banks. It is the Venture Capital Arm of the GB’s to subdue the Emerging Market nations.

                    “I explain quite clearly in the article why the U.S. dollar would crash in the face of a dollar dump by the east.”

                    RESPONSE: LMAO!!! NO YOU DIDN”T!!! You made a statement that they could. I explained how they cannot. You didn’t explain anything. You just repeated the Internet Meme. Rebut my description why they cannot if you can. You can’t because they can’t.

                  • durango kidd

                    BRANDON SECOND RESPONSE:

                    “U.S. bonds are not the “lifeblood” of the NWO and I find your assumption rather hilarious.”

                    RESPONSE: Of course US Bonds are the life blood of the NWO. This is the instrument that the Uber Rich, GB, and PTB use to conduct their global commerce. It is the vehicle where they park their excess dollars or cash reserves. If you do not grasp that basic fact, you are nowhere nearly as informed and intelligent as I have given you credit for. You must be a Liberal Arts Major! LMAO!

                    “ The U.S. has just been a means to an end. They have used our military as a brandished club to create chaos in other regions, but now we are nearing the finale of our usefulness.”

                    RESPONSE: This is true. GHWB and the NWO mounted a coup in 1988 and it has been full steam ahead for the NOW ever since.
                    “I never said the Chinese no longer use U.S. dollars. I did point out that China is dropping the dollar systematically in bilateral trade with numerous countries. This is undeniable fact. Why would China accelerate the process of dollar decoupling if it did not intend to eventually decouple fully?”

                    RESPONSE: It doesn’t matter whether China “decouples” from the dollar or not. But I would suggest that China will always use dollars even after the Yuan becomes a fungible world currency like the dollar and euro, because they will accept dollars in trade as commerce between the US and China continues. It is the intention of the NWO that the Yuan become a WRC like the Euro or Dollar. or Swiss Franc, the Aussie, etc. To become a WRC it must be fully convertible, fungible, and generally accepted. It is moving in that direction by design, but has a ways to go before that happens. Their bilateral trade in their own currency is a natural development for the number two trading world economy.

                    “As clearly stated within the article, the Fed is not required to buy back bonds from any creditor. However, when a nation refuses to acknowledge its liabilities, this is called DEFAULT. Perhaps you have heard of this? NO ONE will want to buy U.S. bonds again if we refuse to pay off our debts.”

                    RESPONSE: Only the Fear Mongers like you are suggesting that the US will not acknowledge or pay off its debt. The US Government has acknowledged our debt, the FED is refinancing our debt, and Congress is cutting spending again: its called, the “sequester”.

                  • John Q. Public

                    @ Goober

                    We have frequently documented that THEY teach that ONLY THEY are human and THEY teach that WE are NOT human and WE SHOULD ALL BE KILLED, but you claim that WE are the haters.

                    Go figure.

                  • Average Guy

                    For some reason, I cannot Thumb Up, or Down, any comment.

                    But at this comment from Durango “Krugman Kidd, lover of gooberment, I LAUGH!:

                    “and Congress is cutting spending again”

                    You’ve really Got to be naive to believe that is true,… or be a PAID For hack.

                    A.k.a. you don’t Know Jack.

                • durango kidd

                  As the primary “dollar cultist” on this site I will respond to Brandon point by point. One comment at a time.

                  Point No 1: Anyone who understands the events in Crimea understands that Russia is well within its rights to protect its interests and the Russian speaking majority from an Ultra nationalist, who once in office, abrogated the rights of the Russian speaking majority without due process or the support even of Ukrainian speaking citizens.

                  I pointed this out immediately in my original comments.

                  The events in Ukraine were put in motion by the NWO hoping to extend their hegemony eastward, eventually aiming at Russia once Putin leaves the scene, one way or another.

                  The NWO will continue to push, just as they do here in America, until they meet resistance. If you cop out and drop out as some here have suggested, you encourage their advance. That said, the dollar is not going to “disappear”.

                  Brandon says that Russia will not be alone in decoupling from the dollar, suggesting that China and India will also decouple from the dollar. Ok, if that’s your position, Brandon, EXPLAIN exacgtly how their decoupling from the dollar would crash the dollar, or how their dumping US Bonds would disrupt the Treasury bond market.

                  Please explain to evidence your point Brandon, because it escapes me when I follow the money how it happens. You must have a greater insight than I into the inner workings of high finance, so please, please, please enlighten me.

                  The FED can buy ALL of the debt that America needs to sell, but ALL of those Cronies in the NWO Crony Capitalist movement would also buy them. On the contrary, those bonds are the life blood of the New World Order and the Global Uber Rich who use them. Russia, China, and India are not relevant to the sale of US Bonds. Period.

                  I have already showed in previous comments elsewhere here, that if they want to dump the dollar they will have to spend them, having NO effect upon the dollar. The only way that these three countries, or any other like Iran, or NK can affect the dollar is by counterfeiting it. And they have.

                  Recently in a major transaction between NK and China, China purchased goods from NK with US Dollars. So much for the Yuan, or gold, or the death of the dollar. LMAO !!!

                  I have also shown that if these countries decide to dump their US Bonds, the FED is under NO OBLIGATION to buy them back before maturity, thus these countries would have to sell their bonds in the open market at a HUGE discount, taking a BIG loss, while the GB Prime Dealers facilitating those trades, and the buyers, would make a handsome profit.

                  I will address the other 13 items as I have time later today, or tomorrow. Stay tuned. 🙂

                  • Walt Kowalski

                    What is the essential difference between counterfeit dollars and “real” dollars?

                    Why is the “real” dollar valuable, when the counterfeit is not?

                    And let’s assume for a moment that the PERFECT counterfeit duplicate could be made…..

                    How would producing those and inserting them into the economy be destructive….and the Fed putting them in is not.

                  • eppe

                    DK; Would it not be nice if we could all work together on this rock called Earth, and actually put all the money put into warfare to common good, and actually make a difference????

                  • durango kidd

                    Hey Walt! Counterfeit dollars have been used in transactions both here and abroad. Even Mickey D’s is checking Fives for the embedded strip in Arizona.

                    So the counterfeit dollar is valuable to those that use them, if they can pass them. Current dollars are pretty sophisticated so it takes the resources of a rogue state with the right presses and special technology to produce them. At least to produce good copies.

                    “Counterfeits” being script not authorized and produced by the issuing country.

                    Counterfeits are destructive,(and the USA and the UK counterfeited other currencies during WWII) when they are used to undermine the stability of the target currency through mass production. Not unlike the EXTREME mass production of the Yuan now.

                    As I have explained many times, deflation destroys dollars, and 80% the dollars that the FED is creating is replacing the losses of the Member Banks and boosting their dollar reserves in their FED accounts.

                    Those dollars have not been injected into the economy. Some growth in the money supply is needed to fund growth; IE increased lending by fractional reserve banking.

                    If I were going to counterfeit anything, I think I would counterfeit gold coins from bullion. Then move to rare coins as my techniques improved. 🙂

                  • Smokey

                    Walt, I can put 10,000 FRN Five Dollar notes into circulation by going to my bank and withdrawing $50,000, and spending them. The economy is stimulated, hopefully, and everyone accepts the notes because they are trusted.

                    Or, I can print up 10,000 counterfeit Fivers and put them into circulation by spending them. The only beneficiary is me, who will get the goods purchased with the notes. Everyone who accepted a counterfeit Five has lost his goods to sell, and has nothing to show for his labor or his investment. The economy has just taken a hit, and no one will trust any Five Dollar bills for a good while.

                    Now, let’s assume those 10,000 notes are ‘perfect’, as you mention, and no one ever finds it out that they are bogus. That’s not possible, they have serial numbers that can be checked, and the paper is still not able to be faked. Even so, if perfect, all I have done is inflate the local economy with money and driven up demand and prices for the goods I’ve selected to buy.

                  • Brandon Smith


                    It is amazing the ignorance that surrounds dollar cultism, and Durango personifies that ignorance.

                    What you don’t seem to grasp, Durango, is that the dollar is nothing but an expendable currency mechanism to the elite. Their goal is to condition the masses to abandon the concept of economic and political sovereignty. They NEED a centralized global currency to influence the public towards “global think”. The dollar has to be sacrificed in order to give birth to that global currency, which is why the IMF is positioning the SDR as a replacement.

                    I explain quite clearly in the article why the U.S. dollar would crash in the face of a dollar dump by the east. Apparently, you need to work on your reading comprehension. China and Russia specifically account for a considerable amount of global energy and manufacturing power. The U.S. accounts for little to nothing. Everything we “produce” is produced in factories on the other side of the world. If they refuse to accept the dollar as trade for their production, what do you think other nations will do? Defend the dollar, or fall in line? If you think they will sacrifice their supply needs just to defend the dollar then you are truly foolish.

                    U.S. bonds are not the “lifeblood” of the NWO and I find your assumption rather hilarious. The U.S. has just been a means to an end. They have used our military as a brandished club to create chaos in other regions, but now we are nearing the finale of our usefulness.

                    I never said the Chinese no longer use U.S. dollars. I did point out that China is dropping the dollar systematically in bilateral trade with numerous countries. This is undeniable fact. Why would China accelerate the process of dollar decoupling if it did not intend to eventually decouple fully?

                    As clearly stated within the article, the Fed is not required to buy back bonds from any creditor. However, when a nation refuses to acknowledge its liabilities, this is called DEFAULT. Perhaps you have heard of this? NO ONE will want to buy U.S. bonds again if we refuse to pay off our debts. And, the Fed can print all it wants to monetize the debt, but this will only end in hyperinflation and collapse anyway, just as it did in Weimar Germany.

                    Show me WHERE in history a country has ever monetized its debt and defaulted on its liabilities and did not suffer calamity.

                    I’m sorry, Durango, but you are far out of your element when it comes to this subject matter. I suggest you leave economic analysis to those who know what they are doing, and avoid embarrassing yourself any further.

                  • Brandon Smith

                    The “solution” Durango offers is to allow the fed to continue monetizing U.S. debt and then “audit them”, and then hang them. This is a very naive way of thinking.

                    First, you may not be familiar with the issue of the Taper, but the Fed is ending its purchases of U.S. bonds, leaving only the IMF and the American taxpayer as the lenders of last resort.

                    Second, how exactly do you plan to make an audit of the Fed happen, considering a full audit has never occurred in the central bank’s 100 year history? It’s all well and good to wail on about “auditing the fed”, it is another thing to offer a legitimate step by step plan for making it happen. No top down solution has ever worked in stopping the Fed. You do not ask a corrupt government controlled by bankers to audit said bankers. The idea is absurd.

                    Third, the SDR IS INDEED the alternative to the dollar; a fact which you continue to ignore. ALL fiat currencies are NWO currencies and your faith in the dollar is a bit misplaced.

                    Please explain, if the dollar is irreplaceable, then why is the IMF moving to replace it as the world reserve with the SDR?

                  • sixpack

                    I was wondering, if a country (like the U.S.) knew that they were going to default and they wanted to at least SEEM like their loans would be “secured”, would it make sense to pass laws, or several EO’s, that transfers literally EVERY resource in the country to the control of the govt? The govt definition of “emergency” is pretty vague, and could include a debt default.

                    That would mean that, should the IMF feel the need to come and collect on an outstanding U.S. loan, there would be plenty of “collateral” to choose from?

                    i.e. “Well, you have defaulted on your loan, so we’ll take Water works for $400, Reading and B&O railroads for $500 each, Park Place, Pennsylvania and Vermont Avenues for $1000 each and for the balance, a 90% discount on all future exports for the next decade?”

                    Seems like the govt has secured their “rights” to everything from public transportation to farmland and the groceries on the shelves, to the well water out behind the house…They didn’t give themselves permission to steal all of that for nothing.

                    Wouldn’t that make us look like we’re a better gamble, than getting a loan on our “trustworthiness as a country”

                  • yourmotherwaswrong

                    @Brandon Smith

                    DK knows that what you wrote in your piece is accurate.

                    Thats why he’s spent so much time trying to refute it.

                    A troll is a troll is a troll.

                    Worse… he has seduced more than a few on this site to not question the “cultism” of the U.S. dollar, AND it’s military enforcement.

                    One would think that at this point, Americans would understand that the only thing backing the U.S. dollar is the U.S. military.

                    According to the NWO, and people like the Durango Kidd, economic power flows from a Central Bank via the barrel of a gun.

                    But, this arrangement will not stand.

                • durango kidd

                  Point No 2. Yes, China has been slowly moving away from the dollar, as PLANNED, The CCP are PARTNERS with the GB’s in world financial dominance. The Yuan is intended, planned, and expected to become a world currency like the Euro, the Pound Sterling, and the Dollar. The Ruble? Not so much! 🙂

                  Point No. 3: “A total drop of the dollar or U.S. treasury bonds by Russia and China would send shock waves through global markets.”

                  Response. WTF? HOW? HOW? HOW? See my initial response. How does it “totally drop” when it is used by the NWO for their crony capitalist economics and commercial activity?

                  If either country drops the dollar and disposes of them by buying goods and services from other nations, they may not hold those dollars but some other nation or investor will receive them. Will they burn them to dispose of they? LMAO!

                  Drop US Bonds? I have already explained that the FED is under NO OBLIGATION to buy these bonds back and if “dropped” on the open market would result in a HUGE LOSS for the seller.

                  It doesn’t affect the US ability to sell bonds at all, because the FED can buy them all. The reason bond yields are so low is that the FED wants the thousands of businesses worldwide who stash their cash in US Bonds to seek higher yields by investing their funds in new plant and equipment to stimulate the global economy.

                  Point 4: “China has been shifting away from export dependency since at least 2008, calling for a larger consumer based market at home.”

                  This is and has always been the NWO PLAN! China has enough consumers with disposable income to fuel their own growth and development; and the development of other nations like Vietnam and/or the Philippines.

                  Therefore the NWO is shifting excess global production to other nations, like those mentioned. Egypt and Turkey and Ukraine are slated for the “China Template”. The goal of the NWO is to develop a world of consumers buying goods and services from them.

                  The biggest growth of the super rich with a net worth of over 30m USD is and will continue to be China for the foreseeable future. That has political ramifications for China and eventually, the grip of the CCP on the levers of power.

                  Points 5 & 6: So what? The US does not need China either. We can make OUR own products again and sell them within the country, but look for manufacturing targeted toward the US to shift away from China to Mexico, Columbia, and Central America. Central America will become the new China for America.

                  China’s yuan will rise, eventually, one way or the other, maybe after a collapse of its currency because of the fraud pervasive throughout its economy. Those threads are beginning to unravel and their numbers are not so hot anymore.

                  Point 7: Yes, many nations would like to bring down King Dollar and replace it with their own; even some in Europe, but when Europe was crashing it was the dollar that bailed them out. The Europeans STILL do not have their own house in order; evidenced by one common market, one currency, and 28 central banks. Europe is a circus!

                  When it has ONE central bank I will get concerned. 🙂

                  • Walt Kowalski

                    “If I were going to counterfeit anything, I think I would counterfeit gold coins from bullion. Then move to rare coins as my techniques improved. :-)”

                    With a gold or silver coin, it is IMPOSSIBLE to create an exact duplicate with anything other than REAL gold or silver.


                    Because nothing else on the planet has the exact same atomic weight. A gold or silver coin of a specified dimension and purity will ALWAYS have a specific weight. That’s how you verify its authenticity.

                    Also…..when you counterfeit a gold or silver coin….there is REAL theft taking place..since you have substituted something of value for something of lesser or NO value.

                    The same argument can not be made in regard to fiat dollars, since they represent NO INTRINSIC VALUE. They possess no value beyond that ascribed to them by the party who made them, or those who agree to agree to that value. That’s why they are fiat (latin: Let it be so)

                    So a counterfeit dollar has the SAME intrinsic value as a “real” dollar.

                    I have no argument that the introduction of counterfeit dollars into the economy is not destructive.

                    My argument is that that introduction of fiat dollars is JUST AS DESTRUCTIVE to the value of the dollars that are already there. THAT is an immutable, undeniable FACT and a basic law of economics.

                    Of course… can ignore that law of economics….for a while. But you can’t ignore the CONSEQUENCES of the that law of economics.

                    Just like you can jump from a 30 story building and ignore the law of gravity……for a while.

                    (Makes me wonder of all those bankers jumping out of windows are just being arrogant and think maybe they actually CAN fly)

                    So…DK…your insistence that the Fed’s continued QE experiment can be continued in perpetuity is as foolhardy as ignoring the law of gravity….and expecting to avoid the consequences.

                  • durango kidd

                    walt: I would counterfeit gold coins because of the PREMIUM I could receive by melting real bullion and copying coins. Some gold coins are worth a lot more than others.

                    And they do not have serial numbers. 🙂

                  • skittle shittin unicorn

                    for you Durango and Walt

                    china is now counterfeiting gold coins silver coins and bullion
                    also the every day peace dollars and the ultra rare Carson city mint coins

                    there very very good fakes but the Number 1 tell tale sign is they sound hollow

                    i know some one in NV that almost bought 10 grand worth of these
                    luckily at the last min he cancelled the deal

                    China is the Number 1 producer of Fake coins and PM bullion

                    everything out of china is fake even there own Pandas

                  • Hunter


                    –(quote)–:…”The goal of the NWO is to develop a world of consumers, buying goods and services from them.”

                    ..Yep,..all 500 million of the survivors(see Georgia Guidestones/NWO script for details).


                    Bottom line the US as we know it… must be eliminated/reduced to 3rd world status, in order to institute a single global govt/authority, governing all humanity.

                    Although your faith in the dollar’s current hegemony may garner some short term the end its destined for the ash-heap of history, as all fiat currency will go likewise.

                    The “faith of investors” is likely a very fickle manifestation, as invested monies have no profit and (delusional)paper-wealth preservation (T-bills/bonds etc).
                    Hence, the short term ‘merit’ reference.


                    The dollar, contrary to the ideas/beliefs of many, who not backed by anything..are wrong!

                    ..its backed by a huge arsenal of thermonuclear weaponry, affixed to some very accurate delivery systems.


                    Ever notice that every nation/country that has sought to decouple from the dollar-trade model, has either been attacked/destroyed/suffered regime change..or is currently experiencing political-economic subterfuge and media lies/govt slandering/calls for military action?

                    …and now its Russia’s turn in the barrel?!?

                    Have you noticed, the U.S.(govt) was recently rated as the greatest threat to world peace, followed closely by various global polling???


                    Something is gonna cause the collapse/destruction of the Bretton-Woods agreement/monetary system..i.e. dollar’s demise and w/ it..govt T-bills/bonds/notes etc!

                    ..and the NYC/Wall St. global-banking branch offices know it..ditto, per the feds/govt.

                    ..that’s why they’re arming all govt agencies to the fvkking teeth..’cuz they know, the rest of us are gonna want some serious..PAYBACK!


                    Per the U.S. being the world’s banker? I don’t doubt you a bit, on that one!

                    However, nor do I think its “TOO BIG TO FAIL.”

                    But..I do keep a stash of $10-$20 bills in #10 cans, as cash will be king for a very fleeting(short) period of time(days..maybe a week or so!).

                    We’ll see..soon enough, one day.

                  • Them Guys

                    Why if the dollar is so ready to collapse to worthlessness asap…Why was MSNBC afternoon stock reports on tv showing a massive corporate list of huge corps like APPLE corp and Microsoft amd tons more that are currently sitting on Hoards of us dollar reserves?

                    APPLE corp was at very Top of List with Cash reserves at $100-BILLION! All in Cash us dollars just sitting there.

                    Why would such intelligent corp leaders and inventors etc hold so much reserves of us dollars in Cash if they thought as some do that the dollar is toast?

                    it don’t make any logic or sense at all for apple and tons of other huge corps to have so much us dollars in Cash holdings if dollars soon will collapes and lose total values.

                    if I recall that stock market report correct, from a couple months ago, the grand Total of us dollar cash on hand held by a combined huge group of corps was Over $5-TRILLION total!…They would Not have that if they believe dollars will soon crash to zero worth.

                    They are not stupid fool folks either. Stupid fools never invent nor create the worlds largest companies like apple etc. Why do They hold so much us dollars cash?

                  • Hunter


                    Never said the dollar’s collapse was immanent, merely that its going to happen!

                  • Brandon Smith


                    So then, your entire theory surrounding dollar hegemony is based on blind FAITH that the elites will not kill the currency in the near term. You have no evidence to back this theory, just baseless opinions.

                    I choose NOT to assume that the dollar will continue as a world reserve based on the ample evidence I present in the article. If you can show me any evidence to suggest that the dollar will survive as long as you claim, then by all means, reveal it. I’m not interested in what you “think” is going to happen, I am only interested in the facts.

                • durango kidd

                  Point No 10. “Most treasury holdings in foreign coffers are not long term bonds.”

                  That’s because the effective yield on short term bonds is higher than on long term bonds so it only makes sense. This is intentional by the FED to induce companies to seek higher yields in more risky investments and stimulate the global economy.

                  Other nations, multinationals, and tens of thousands of companies around the world stash their cash in US short term treasuries when they are not using them because there is a DEEP and ready market for these securities when they need cash. America is the world’s banker whether the world likes it or not. 🙂

                  • Walt Kowalski

                    You didn’t answer the question….

                    What’s the essential difference between counterfeit currency and “real” currency?

                    And since you insist the dollars the Feds have created have not entered the economy……

                    If they DID…how would they be any different (i.e. less damaging)than counterfeit dollars…


                    Why would counterfeit be any more destructive than the “real” dollars?….since they both have the same intrinsic value?

                    (Personally…I think you just don’t want to answer the question)

                  • durango kidd

                    Walt: 1. The “essential difference” is that counterfeit script by definition is not authorized script; even if it were s perfect copy.

                    2, Counterfeit script damages the value of authorized script when it is printed en mass as the Allies did to Germany and then dropped them into the country.

                    If I slip the kid at the counter of Mickey D’s a bogus five for a cup of coffee, I get a free drink and the owner of the business was not compensated for his product and service if his bank discovers it as it is deposited.

                    Enough bogus bills could generate a loss for his insurance company and an increase in his rate.

                    3. If the FED injected all of the dollars that they have created to protect the liquidity ratios and balance sheets of its Member Banks into the economy so that there were too many dollars in the hands of consumers chasing too few goods and services, then the hyperinflation that everyone here is screaming about could happen.

                    Does that cover it? I am going to have to start billing Mac for my time!!! 🙂

                  • Walt Kowalski

                    No DK….you didn’t answer the question.

                    You gave the “Corp’s” answer to the question…but not THE answer.

                    I asked what the ESSENTIAL difference was. Perhaps a better word would be PRACTICAL.

                    What’s the PRACTICAL difference?

                    As I see it…there is none…since BOTH the counterfeit and real have exactly the SAME intrinsic value. They are worth the paper upon which they are printed.

                    BOTH will have the same effect on the economy when introduced.

                    But I suppose there is ONE difference.

                    When a counterfeiter produces a note out of thin air, HE is the one who profits from it. When the Fed produces a fiat note….the Fed is the one that profits from it.

                    But that is the ONLY practical difference. And in the mind of TPTB, the ONLY question that should be asked….

                    Cui bono?

                • durango kidd

                  Point No 11: “China is on the fast track to becoming the largest holder of physical gold in the world. Russia has also greatly expanded its gold purchases.”

                  Gold is a valued global commodity abundant in both Russia and China that can be produced relatively cheaply below world market costs, so it is a source of revenue and wealth for both countries and this mining activity stimulates their respective economies.

                  Two thirds of the gold in the USA has not been mined and should be exploited for OUR national wealth. Tie the tree-huggers to the tree, they are mostly liberal lawyers anyway. 🙂

                  • HTJ

                    We could be LOADED with gold for all anyone knows.

                    Never show your hand.

                • durango kidd

                  Point No 12: “The most common argument against the dollar losing world reserve status has been that such a shift would be “impossible” because no other currency in the world has the adequate liquidity needed to replace the dollar in global trade. …… Current estimates calculate around $24 trillion created by the PBOC and the banks under its control.”

                  It is, and has ALWAYS been the PLAN of the NWO to consolidate the world under One World Government, controlled by the Uber Rich and their interlocking banking, commercial, and industrial enterprises. This is why they are making so many billionaires in China and Russia.

                  The Yuan will not replace the dollar, but it is intended by the PTB GB to join it in a basket of currencies that will include the Euro and maybe the Pound Sterling; if the Pound is used in enough of the Commonwealth. Otherwise it will disappear into the hills of Scotland. The Yen will disappear into the pacific.

                  The Yuan will dominate Asia; the Dollar, North and South America; and the Euro, Europe and the Middle East. Eventually, a single currency may come to dominate Africa but not until the PTB GB have sufficient control over the Continent and its resources.

                  All of these developments are YEARS away and China may have many fits and starts along the way. It wants a cheap currency to keep its people working and stifle dissent, while at the same time it wants its currency to be THE world currency.

                  They cannot have it both ways.

                  Either you are THE world currency with your 1.3 billion people purchasing goods and services from the rest of the world with a strong Yuan; or you want a cheap currency to keep your people employed.

                  Choices will have to be made. 🙁

                  • Brandon Smith

                    Again, you clearly did not read the whole article, or did not comprehend what was written.

                    I state in the article that the plan is to create massive liquidity through the Yuan and then include it in the SDR basket. Read it again.

                    However, the dollar WILL lose its reserve status in the process. Will it continue to exist? Perhaps, but at a greatly reduced global value, causing prices on necessary goods, services, and exports to skyrocket. The U.S. will become a 2nd or 3rd world nation constantly weighted with inflation and unrest, if not witness a full collapse.

                    I ask again, show me ANY nation in history that monetized its own debt to avoid default that did not suffer calamity.

                    This is not about consumerism and profit; this is about POWER. I suggest you learn the difference.

                    So far, you have provided zero facts that run contrary to those I provide in the article, only opinions backed by nothing.

                  • RandomTangent1957

                    “Intrinsic value of the dollar “……
                    I think that the value should be denominated in “BTU’s” ,
                    Because their only value bedside TP ….is going to be the
                    Heat they generate when you are burning them to keep warm.
                    In that trend of thought….100 one dollar bills….would have 100
                    Times the value of a single 100 dollar bill. Hence….I am suggesting that
                    Going forward….we start stocking #10 cans with one dollar bills !
                    Standing by in
                    Montgomery County Texas

                • durango kidd

                  BRANDON THIRD RESPONSE:

                  “And, the Fed can print all it wants to monetize the debt, but this will only end in hyperinflation and collapse anyway, just as it did in Weimar Germany.”

                  RESPONSE: Not true. Another Chicken Little who does not understand what is happening. With all of the “printing” why is there no hyperinflation NOW after five years of printing? The FED is replacing the losses of the Member Banks with QE. QE is the continuation of the Bank Bailout of 2008/2009 on a monthly basis. The Bailout continues unabated. The FED is replacing the losses of the MB. These losses represent destroyed dollars. That is what deflation does. It destroys dollars. The wealth of the Middle Class has been destroyed by the decline in home values. 40% of their wealth has been destroyed. Their wealth has been destroyed. That wealth represents destroyed dollars.
                  Hyperinflation can only exist when way too many dollars in the hands of consumers are pursuing too few goods and services. Consumers do not have dollars, and the dollars in circulation are not circulating rapidly (velocity). This is by design by the FED. QE was never intended to stimulate the economy. That is the BIG FED LIE.
                  “Show me WHERE in history a country has ever monetized its debt and defaulted on its liabilities and did not suffer calamity.”

                  RESPONSE: Show me where the US has defaulted upon its debt or denied its liabilities?

                  “I’m sorry, Durango, but you are far out of your element when it comes to this subject matter. I suggest you leave economic analysis to those who know what they are doing, and avoid embarrassing yourself any further.”

                  RESPONSE: LMFAO! Brandon, I have two degrees in real estate and finance, held four professional licenses before an early retirement, including a real estate broker’s license, mortgage broker’s license, Certified General real estate appraisal license, and a securities license.

                  I ran 15 major markets for a major bank that is still standing, developed shopping centers, sold $100 million in MBS to Wall Street, and now own a gold and platinum mine, of which, there are only six others like in North America.

                  I also was approved by both Citicorp and Chase Manhattan for a $50 million LBO some years ago, but didn’t complete the transaction because the seller wanted me to explain why two major NY banks would give me $50 million to buy his company. To do so would have disclosed my business plan, which he could have copied once I showed him how. I declined and walked away from that deal.

                  That’s how I have spent the last 40 years in finance, banking, and economics. I think I am qualified and so does the 9th District Court where I have qualified as an Expert Witness.

                  You are a philosophy major aren’t you? LMFAO!!! 🙂

                  • Average Guy

                    “I have two degrees in real estate and finance, held four professional licenses before an early retirement, including a real estate broker’s license, mortgage broker’s license, Certified General real estate appraisal license, and a securities license.”

                    Oh wow does that ever spell gooberment lover-sellout. It’s like holding a double honorary in back stabbing. License this, license, that. How do you contain yourself from licking every boot you see?

                    Just check out what they have to say about your type at

                    You sir, are the epitome of scum.

                    It’s too bad, as you might have gone far under a truly free market system. You’d probably make a good butler. What with all the drive you have for following the rules of order and all.

              • Paranoid

                I’m not sure ANY of this debate is worthwhile. Looking back on it, we have been on the end game road at a minimum since LBJ in the 1960’S. Not that it would have been physically impossible to fix, but there was no doubt about the ending. I don’t know when it became actually impossible to fix. I suppose sometime in G. Bush I. when we spent trillions on not winning a war. I’m sure that our response to 911 put us over the financial edge. But the Baby Boomers were going to bankrupt us anyway.
                There is no turning back, there is no will to fix the problems. To us, it makes no difference if it’s: Jews, Bankers, Liberals, bad weather, or the Giant Iguana God that lives under the hill in Australia. Just get ready to survive it. With luck after it’s over you might get a chance to hang somebody, but for now fixate on: What can you do to save yours? 1. Get out of any kind of secured debt that takes what you need. 2. Get some kind of safe place to be. 3. Get your survival stuff. (You decide if that’s: Bullets, Beans, Band aides, PM’s or whatever) 4. Enjoy and use whatever time you have.

                • Scout

                  Never give up.

                  I envision a sort of triage of failing institutions, save the best get rid of the rest, and innovate, even on a shoestring to start. Socrates taught outdoors.

                  We have great people, we have more stuff in our houses and rented storage that can re purposed, We have a lot of good land and water that has not yet been destroyed.

                  I guess it’s a matter of will.

              • 02

                Paul Craig Roberts with Greg Hunter on Ukraine latest. For all naysayers listen to Robert’s “The Neocons are married to other Neocons (Victoria Nudelman and Kagan etc.) and they clearly stated what the want, total world hedgemony under US control”. Roberts stops short of explaining that these Neocons are Jews, but he has started that line of thought lately. I suspect very soon PCR will take the gloves and say “Look the jews want a new world order run out of Israel..” we are edging towards the reality.

                • Hunter

                  That’s why I’ve always said…if you desire world peace, a return to wholesome morals, the abandonment of usury and the destruction of the NWO’s HQ…simply detonate a 250kt thermonuclear weapon…2000ft above the center of Tel Aviv.

         peace will follow in about 20minutes!

                  • 02

                    W have to get rid of jewyork and jewjersy too.

                  • Paranoid

                    The A-Bombs dropped over Japan were about 10-12 Kt and went off at about 1800 ft. which was to low, for a 250 it should be close to 4-5,000 ft. Just FYI

              • Scout

                Here is how.

                The Power of the “Common Law” Grand Jury – In a stunning 6 to 3 decision Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, confirmed that the American grand jury is neither part of the judicial, executive nor legislative branches of government, but instead belongs to the people. It is in effect a fourth branch of government “governed” and administered to directly by and on behalf of the American people, and its authority emanates from the Bill of Rights, see United States -v- Williams.

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                John Darash – Founders interview



                Florida looks like it will be second in the nation to be fully constituted.

                All of the original 13 colonies will be fully constituted.

                Then on to the rest of the 3142 counties nationwide.

                Connecticut is scheduled for next Saturday 3/15 at 10am in Hartford.
                Rhode Island is scheduled for next Saturday 3/15 at 2pm in East Providence

              • durango kidd

                Brandon I a trying to post a response but the site is not accepting.

                • Average Guy

                  Durango “Krugman” Kidd wrote, “I a trying to post a response but the site is not accepting.”

                  Ya. That sucks when that happens. However; we know what you have to offer, just more of The Establishment line. That’s what Keynesian’s do.

                  It’s like you’re Obama’s blood brother.

          • Unreconstructed Southron

            And the Titanic was unsinkable.

            • Unreconstructed Southron

              And Jesus was unraisable.

              • Unreconstructed Southron

                And Britain was unbeatable.

                • RickInOregon

                  And 7up is the un-cola

                  • The Cookin' Mom

                    ………I made cheese today……

                    keep preppin’

                  • OutWest

                    Sounds like maybe the baloney-skin dollar
                    and the U.S. Treachery Bond are finally
                    becoming nakedly transparent to the world.

                    Emperor Obama and First Lady Bossy aren’t
                    wearing a stitch of clothes, so it seems.

                  • wrong

                    Received this as an email today. Thought I’d share.


                    Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do. Few were listening.
                    The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised “Meet The Press’.
                    From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008 11 : 48 : 04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” THE THEN Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.
                    General Bill Gann’ USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
                    The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…
                    During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”.

                    Senator Obama replied :
                    “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides.” “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression…” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.”

                    Obama continued : “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing’. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm Americato the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – – – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ….”

                    When I Become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations ofIslam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past”.

                    “Of course now, I have found myself about to become The President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First black Family. Indeed,CHANGE is about to overwhelm theUnited States of America ”

                    Yes, you read it right.
                    I, for one, am speechless!!!

                    Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

                  • hammerhead

                    Thanks for posting that @WRONG

                    He was just showing his communist roots .

                  • Warchild Dammit

                    What could possibly go wrong?

                  • wrong

                    And obama sucks.

                  • Hunter

                    Actually Wrong…the speechless part should remain in the fact that, the homo-son-ova-bitch managed to get reelected!

                    ..I didn’t think we had THAT MANY low IQ parasites living in this country!

                  • Louis XIV

                    I’m a Pepper

                • Mcdave

                  @ Mom,
                  That just sounds funny.

                  • 1braveheart

                    Wrong, thank you for posting that transcript. Obama was showing his “true colors”.

                • KY Mom

                  Off Topic…

                  Thought for the Day

                  No one can go back and make a brand new start.
                  Anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending.
                  God didn’t promise days without pain, laughter without sorrow, sun without rain,
                  but He did promise strength for the day, comfort for the tears, and light for the way.

                  Disappointments are like road bumps, they slow you down a bit but you enjoy the smooth road afterwards.
                  Don’t stay on the bumps too long. Move on!

                  When something happens to you, good or bad, consider what it means.
                  There’s a purpose to life’s events, to teach you how to laugh more or not to cry too hard.

                  Remember five simple rules to be happy:
                  1. Free your heart from hatred.
                  2. Free your mind from worries.
                  3. Live simply.
                  4. Give more.
                  5. Expect less.

                  Prayer is one of the best free gifts we receive.
                  There is no cost but a lot of rewards.

                  May God Bless you and have a great day!

                  • wrong

                    Thanks Mom. I enjoyed that. I sure have a hard time with #1 though. That’s a tough one for me.

                  • 1braveheart

                    KY Mom, thank you for posting that. But like wrong, I have trouble with #1 for 2 reasons. 1. I hate Communists, especially the ones who killed my wife’s family, and 2. I hate Haitians. I had all kinds of trouble with Haitians when I lived in Miami and it was a Haitian that killed my wife.

                  • Paranoid

                    I prefer to add, always shoot them at least twice.

                  • mark

                    We are to only hate God’s enemies, not our enemies KY Mom. The bible says there is a time for hate. I agree with the other 4.

                • lower40

                  and the sore dick was unbeatable (Nixon that is)

            • Anonymous

              Back in 1975, Church warned:

              The [National Security Agency’s] capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. [If a dictator ever took over, the NSA] could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.

              That was before the Internet and supercomputers, biometrics and all the devilish means of data mining that can convert even one’s turned-off cellphone into an instrument of surveillance. We continue to ignore Church’s warning at our peril

              • Anonymous

                See– “even one’s turn-off cellphone into an instrument of surveillance.” Told you so– you have to take out the battery in order to not be spied on by TPTB.

                Robert Sheer, who wrote this article at Huff Post, is a well known author and journalist. This quote is from the article, “We’re all Suspects in Barack Obama’s America.”

                • 1braveheart

                  Anonymous, you can take out the batteries in the old-style cellphones and be OK. most of the smartphones have the battery built-in so the only thing to do then would be to destroy the smartphone.

                • 02

                  no there is another battery in them you cant remove, you have to leave the cell phone @ home.

                  • sixpack

                    A 30 oz framer, swung repeatedly, should fix the problem…

                • Just Wondering

                  No you don’t have to remove the battery. Just take one of your Mylar bags, a used one will do, and put your phone in it. That makes it a Faraday cage. Radio energy can not get in or out.

                  You can test this by placing your phone in a bag, then call it using another phone. If it doesn’t ring, you are good to go.


              • Just Wondering

                Who actually is listening and watching us.

                Who hires them.

                Who supervises them.

                Who pays them.

                Do they watch and listen to each other?

                You have to wonder.


                • hey there

                  Exactly, who gives a crap about the dollar or any of the politics…
                  Nothing anyone can do … prep and pray.

                • slingshot

                  Ask Senator Fienstein.


                • durango kidd

                  JW: The Cyber Squad HQ in a 300,000 sq ft building in Virgina. DHS. DHS CS Management. WE The People pay them. Only on break when they are not watching and listening to US. 🙂

          • Mcdave

            @ eppe,
            I had to look that up, but Ha Ha!

            • eppe

              Amazed that no one caught the double meaning, one the picture on the Nirvana album, and second the aging and death of the “nirvana” of the petro dollar….

              • Mcdave

                Yea, I’m old. Still listening to Marshall Tucker and Outlaws, but I’ve heard OF Nirvana.

                • Mcdave

                  Nirvana, wasn’t that Kurt Kaboom?

                  • eppe

                    No brain Cobain, took a 20 guage, put it in his mouth and pulled the trigger… Strange, he wrote a song with lyrics stating “I don’t have a gun”….
                    Saw Nirvana at a Lollapaloosa in 92?, they rocked…
                    Went by myself, what a freak show, but I was a wild @$%&…

                  • 02

                    That was ole blue eyes, one blew left and one blew up.

                  • Louis XIV

                    Think of Carly Simon

                    Kurt co-bain, they’ll probly do the next one without you…

                  • skittle shittin unicorn

                    i think curt used a 12 ga not a 20 ga

        • Calgacus

          Theres enough charts and info out there for people to smarten up. Its a plan. Being an intentional dumbass is a plan. And they know the masses will believe the bs. Funny thing is, as people become poorer, eventually they wont have electricity to keep the propaganda flatscreen running.

          Im tired of saying SEE or I TOLD YOU. You cant knock sense into a deadhead so why worry about it. Its a waste of our energy. People just dont want to know about problems. Denial. Just waitll they come crying. Thats when ole Cal will be in denial of their existence because I wont see them or hear them whine.

          It’s nose to the grindstone time. Were laying in more supplies including more food, lamp oil, TP, recharge batteries and the like. Soon itll be time to till the ground. Got a bunch of seedlings growing now.

          Always looking where to stash the TP. You can get 36 rolls of TP in a lg round trash can.

          • Government Guy

            It’s not invincible, just the strongest currently available. Having dollars is like having the best body armor available. It isn’t that nothing will penetrate it, just that you’ll be the last one standing. In this case the last one with value before the reset.

            Precious metals are great, but walk into McDonald’s with a gold Eagle and see if you come out with an efficient trade. We keep our spare TP in contractor garbage bags in the attic.

            • braahaahaa

              I agree that the dollar is still useful. I live my life normally. I invest normally. It’s not like I cannot spend anymore and all resources must go into prepping. That’s just boring and weird. So long as the dollar is living. Than I will live my life normally. When things get worse, than I will adjust to the conditions.

              I am not gonna make myself go through hardships if society is still pretty much normal. Food is still in the stores. Gas stations are running. Etc. Some people here take prepping to a radically new level which can be pretty scary. Just calm down.

            • TnAndy

              You know, I really get tired of those analogies like “walk into McD’s or Walmart with your gold coin and see what you get”.

              Or “I wait until the guy with gold needs a can of beans” (Why, if you think gold is SO worthless, would you trade it for anything ?? )( And WHY would you think folks that own gold don’t own lots of beans already ? )

              Of COURSE you won’t get full value, or maybe anything, depending on how stupid the cashier or manager is….

              THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF OWNING GOLD (or silver).

              The point is: You can swap them for an ever increasing amount of paper currency ( currency….not MONEY ), and take THAT to McD’s…..and buy a cardboard sandwich.

              1913: You could swap one ounce of gold for 20 paper dollars.

              Today: You can swap one ounce of gold for 1350 paper dollars.

              The GOLD didn’t change…..the paper currency lost value…..and WILL CONTINUE TO LOOSE VALUE, by design.

              Given a choice, would you rather stick gold or paper money in your cookie jar for your old age ?

              WHAT PART OF THAT DON’T YA’LL GET ?????

              • hammerhead

                andy says: “Today: You can swap one ounce of gold for 1350 paper dollars.”

                Are ya sure that after the dollar collapses and comunism is rolling over you like a frieght train , that you are really gonna cash in that gold without it being confiscated ? I dont know either , just askin.
                Rule of law in the present sence will be nessesary.
                I dont think that will be the case .

                • Agent Provocatour

                  That gold piece might save you and your families lives .
                  It makes a great bribe to get you through check points….well in the movies anyway.

                  • Them Guys

                    In WWII Hollywood Movies and various Books. There were persons who escaped the nazi gas chanbers…6 Seperate Times and in 3-4 different ‘camps”! ALL acomplished Before they reashed the ripe old age of..9 yrs old!

                    Some scaled 20-30 ft Tall fences with 20,000 volts AC current by Leeping across from a running start while machine toting nazis looked the other way.

                    Amazeing what folks are capable of no. Or better yet amazing what folks are willing to Believe, others claimed they did!

                    ps: once us dollars collapse and Nobody will take or accept it…What will an ounce of gold be traded for?…

                    most likly if dollars go that route they will be replaced by New dollars or whatever they want to call it. Then Thats what gold will get cashed in for right. So in the end it seems no difference.

                    Personally I think it absurd to believe TPTB strived, scamed, swindled and did it all for so long, 100+ yrs here, three times that many years in euro nations, to achieve their total controls status….Then simply relenquish it ALl for total outright collapse where all systems, methods, etc simply STOP operating?

                    Thats absurd. A switch to some Other form money or dollars to Keep things rolling along so they can acomplish their gloable control plans sounds alot more convincing to me. Collapse totally is akin to they spent a vast fortune to build a house, spent 100 yrs to build it, and when its 99% complete…They walk away abandon it and then….Go where?…Do what exactly?…Absurd.

                    PSS: What if they also have a plan to let china keep buying thousand tons gold per year at Todays high prices….Then collapse Gold prices instead!…Boy that would sure go far to screw up any plans china may have at global dominance eh…Like the 1980’s was it? When gold was bought for aprox $1300 per Ounce, then it Dropped back down to $50 or whatever it was at..

                    Picture china holding several Thousand tons gold bought at todays prices going so low in value very Fast like gold did prior. If Anything could collapse a nation that sure could eh. Remember like us reg folks, china too is dealing with very sneeky, swindlering, scamming and Lying Banksters whos religion is to lie and cheat all Non members…Chineese equals NON tribe members.

                • wrong


                  I’ve thought about the gold/silver thing along time. My wife and I have metals (including lead). We bought most of it 8 years ago when my wife decided we needed to tighten the belts and start preparing for the uncertain future. Smart move on her part and mine for listening. For once… Not sure what the answer is for metals in the future. Most of what we bought are tenth oz gold eagles. In todays market they were cheap. We figured that would be the best way to keep it simple if we did indeed need to barter or trade. If I never use it then I guess my kids can share it. Same thing with silver.

                  I’m enjoying the blue sky over on this side. Spent the day building up a kitchen counter top. Laminate tomorrow and Friday. Haven’t done laminate in awhile. Hope I don’t have to do it again very soon.

                  Do you raise grass fed beef? For sale?

                  • hammerhead

                    LAMINATE ? Wow , thats like the “wayback machine sherman”! Kidding.sorta….
                    Yep , grassfed beef for sale, although i am not a militant on the organic , if an animal needs meds , it gets it .
                    That being said , all the grass (or hay)comes from my place and i dont use chemicals.
                    If you manage the land properly chems arent needed, but i aint farming more than 80 anyway.
                    Its supplemental not supposed to be full time. LOL
                    We are adding 10 assorted apple trees this year.
                    And gonna try grapes with the help of a guy up in your area . will see.

                  • wrong

                    Yea Laminate! NovaPly dust big time. Nasty stuff. I always say I’ll never do another one but here I am….

                    Next time you have a quarter for sale we need to talk.

                  • wrong

                    A quarter of BEEF that is……..

                  • Mcdave

                    @ Wrong,
                    Ya gotta’ be careful.

                  • hammerhead

                    LOL , YA , lets be clear, beef in the fall.
                    Thats the ONLY kinda “quarter” that sells round here.
                    LMAO !

                • Hunter


                  How true!!!!

                  Then again, looking/thinking down the road…what’s to stop them from digitizing the banking system/monetary transactions?

                • lastmanstanding

                  You don’t get it either.

              • ReFounding Father

                Using PM’s.
                Let’s say Barry needs a new roof but is unable to climb a ladder. He can however sit and reload shells. His neighbor Joe is a good roofer but he also reloads. Joe would really like some beef and their neighbor Nancy has a herd. However, Nancy’s roof is in very good shape and Joe’s inventory of shotgun shells will not cover the cost. Barry’s other friend Harry really needs shotgun shells, but only has figs to barter. Harry did however accumulate some gold coins and is willing to trade a twenty dollar gold coin for Barry’s shells. Barry takes the gold-for-shells trade and then trades the gold to Joe for a new roof. Joe then takes the gold and trades it for beef from Nancy. Gold for big things, silver for every day stuff.

                • Mcdave

                  Simple, eloquent, perfectly stated.

              • Henry Hoggins

                As one who deals in hogs, I can tell you I would be happy to take your gold for these pigs and piglets.

                In fact, nothing could be better than gold in getting rid of this smoldering, rancid PED-infected livestock to you. I will not take USD, unless I have to…

                WHY DO YOU THINK WE FEED ALL OF THIS PORK TO THE CHINESE? In the industry, we hate the Smithfield takeover, so we send them the good stuff, wink, wink.

                Pink Slime ruined beef. SHTF when LSM got involved.

                So, now, it’s all about keeping rumors as quiet as possible, without LSM knowing, while inflating prices. “When pigs fly” is a running joke…

                The USDA says there is no shortage, yet the contamination rumor is kept alive, while the public never gets to know, and keeps paying higher prices!

                Paper Money is TP for your bunghole, and the hedge funds don’t care, just as long as they can keep making profits from infected meat, most especially pork right now…

                The last 19/20 days have been rapid, accentuated moves to outer space, and it ain’t to meet nice E.T.s…



                So don’t buy gold, you’re very smart, wink, wink.

              • Walt Kowalski


                Simple and eloquent argument. Well played.

            • Nightshiftsucks

              Tha’s what silver is for,you can also buy gold in 1/10 oz.

            • Mcdave

              If I ever walk into McDonald’s with a gold coin in my hand, something has gone terribly wrong.
              If I ever walk into McDonald’s, things are BAD!
              Should you put all your wealth in PMs? NO!
              Should you put all you wealth in bacon? No!
              But you need to have some PM, some ammo, some food, etc. etc. Try to be well rounded, and not just in the belly region.(not that there’s anything wrong with that)
              That is all.

              • Warchild Dammit

                PM’s just a inflation hedge and perhaps you survive to the rebuild a good long term thing to have.That said,things that will get you thru a year better off to first have,PM’s just another egg in the basket,finacial seeds for the future.

                • Mcdave


            • Walt Kowalski

              “but walk into McDonald’s with a gold Eagle and see if you come out with an efficient trade.”

              A specious argument.

              When the dollar no longer is the world’s reserve currency, you will still be able to use it (Just like the Germans in Wiemar Germany still used their Marks), it will just take a wheelbarrow load of them to buy that Big Mac…..or it may just require the ENTIRE BALANCE on your EBT card to buy it.

              Those who hold PM’s will be able to exchange them for whatever currency is accepted at the time.

              For instance…If my car were in need of repair, and I didn’t have enough fiat Federal Reserve Notes on hand, I can simply take a gold Eagle (or Maple Leaf, or gold whatever) to a coin dealer and exchange it for dollars. And then I can pay for the repair.

              Guess what……I’ll probably ALWAYS be able to do that….unless SHTF…in which case my mechanic might want something more useful at the moment……like TP…or medicines.

              People need to understand WHY the concept of money exists in the first place. And they need to look into the history of WHAT has constituted money by civilizations, and what had endured.

              It’s not a great mystery…..except to those whose brains have been addled by too much high-level economics education. (It takes an advanced degree to become as stupid as those who have perpetuated this mess we are in)

              Actually…..they are probably not stupid…..just evil.

              • Hunter

                Nice one Walt!

              • Mcdave

                Actually…..they are probably not stupid…..just evil
                Nailed it.

        • Boss of All Hogs

          Gangster Banksters = Dollar Cultists. GBs know the Chinese love pork, so they are keeping the prices of pigs flying. Remember, they already own the largest pork producer Smithfield. Coincidence? I don’t think so. And keep in mind, the GBs have Chinese counterparts. So dollar collapse is important, but meaningless when basic products like pork are expensive enough to compensate for their losses in currency. BOTH American and Chinese consumers get screwed while the GBs (think multi-billion dollar hedge funds) on both sides of the Pacific rake in the profits. Hogs are just one example, since the infected meat from PED virus is never reported. Other products ride the same thin red line. If you don’t get it, don’t worry, be happy! 🙂

          • Boss of All Hogs

            I would be very carefull listening to this person/persons it s/he they are using my name and they sound like they are awake and prepping for shtf. However I believe this poster is a troll prolly working for some alphabet agency. Must be your making a big difference in the world Mac you have drawn the attention of someone/thing that is willing to cause a distraction here. The airforce has a good quote on this one

            “if your not getting flak your not even over the target”

            Again gang Boss Hog is stolen by this douchebag so any posts from here on out are not me and do not reflect me in any way whatsoever.

            • Henry Hoggins

              Are you a stalker?

          • CWinOR

            @Boss- did you happen to notice how the first case of PEDv was reported on/about 5/13/13, while the Smithfield buyout was announced about 5/29/13? PEDv had never been reported in North America prior to this outbreak. Conspiracy? Nah…idiocy is more like it. About a lifetime ago, I used to be a Biological Security Specialist for for the gov. I surmise that while the Chinks were over here touring their new purchase, Smithfield and it’s new owners failed to follow proper Bio Security (common sense husbandry really)and brought over PEDv from China on their clothes, shoes etc and accidentally infected their new investment. Kind of an “Instant Karma” thing if you ask me.

            The Chinese think in VERY long terms. I think their long term goal is to seize control of natural resources by hook or by crook. The have all those ever hungrier mouths to feed, and the consider themselves to be the Superior Race. All of the actions of late have one thing in common- it puts them in a better position to control more natural resources, whether it be oil, fisheries, foodstuffs, rare earth elements, ores etc. etc.

            • JayJay

              Don’t be fooled by not buying Smithfield’s brand.
              They are also manufacturing these:
              Cook’s Ham
              Farmland Industries
              Premium Standard Farms
              Smithfield Foods
              Smithfield Packing Company
              John Morrell

              Smithfield; they got us covered??

              • Mcdave

                Know your Farmers and Ranchers. It’s important.

            • hammerhead

              CWIN , DAMN RIGHT .
              I know this thread is about economics , but this is relevant.
              This is yet another piece of splitting up the US for world redistribution . it aint just capitalism .

              I would like to recommend a book ?
              I pass these out at planning commision meetings.
              Short , clear and to the point.
              Dr.H.Lawence Zillmer , Living with Agenda 21.
              50 pages , to the point , gets folks educated in a way that dispells conspiracies. Easy read.
              I have bought and handed out maybe a hundred .

              I got no stake in this book, no profit, just a good clear explanation for everyday folks.

              The control and planned collapse of the USD are directly related to Agenda 21 , which is really a communist takeover.

          • eppe

            Boss, this is one that has been hiding in the background, PLEASE no offense given or taken???? PS, I love pig, and do eat it often…It is hard to find jokes that reflect the subject at hand…

            The benefit or harm to society is a red herring. This is about freedom. The number one killer in America is heart disease – more than traffic accidents, cancer, etc. So, imagine we decide as a society to outlaw bacon. And not just eating bacon – it is against the law to even possess a tiny piece of bacon. If you are caught with bacon, you can lose custody of your child, you can be fired from your job, you can be put in prison. Your employer can force you to pee in a cup to see if you have eaten any bacon within the last month. If you test positive for bacon use, you can be fired for cause and denied unemployment. You can not get bacon in any store because it is illegal to even possess it – let alone sell it. So the only place you can get it is from organized criminals – the same violent people running illegal gambling, prostitution, human slavery, loan sharking. If you try and raise your own pigs to supply yourself with a little bacon, we will assume you are a bacon dealer and throw you in prison longer. We can illegally search your car and if we find bacon, the illegal search will not matter because the Supreme Court has ruled that in cases where bacon is found, the right against illegal searches does not apply! We will say you are supporting terrorists! That we are doing it for the children! Because bacon is a gateway meat that leads to harder meats like jerky.

        • Hamrick

          What tribe are you from? The Putzation Nation or the DuncePuppian Twerps? Either way you are a mouth-breathing,oxygen wasting moron who has way too high an opinion of your inferior,uneducated, misinformed, ignorant, uncouth, Antisemitic self.

          • 02

            Might as well spit on him to Hymie

          • 02

            I am from Germany, my granddad was a Storm Trooper. No bullshit. YOU are my enemy.

            • Hunter

              Salute to your Granddad, .02!

              Several years ago, an old family friend passed away. He was a US Army private during WW-II, whose entire company was captured by troopers of the 1st SS/LAH panzer division, not far from Elsenborn, Belgium.

              The weather was cold in the extreme & the SS guards providing security(outdoors) prior to an expected prisoner transfer to the rear..supplied several empty oil drums filled w/ wood for heat to comfort said prisoners, who crowded around them.

              ..Pvt. Austin W. was a little guy..maybe 5’3″ 120lbs.max(at that time)…anyway, his larger fellow U.S. soldiers wouldn’t budge/move/make way for Austin to get warmed by the fires…some actually pushed him down in the snow!
              He was freezing to death, was sluggish & could no longer stand upright!

              He used to tell this story often & said the only reason he survived..was due to the compassion of the HUGE (6’5-6’6″) SS guard who saw what was going on..and who called another guard over, handed him his MP-40 and proceeded to snatch Austin off the ground, order the other prisoners to clear a path & deposited him next to the drum w/ a broken english command..the ones keep(stays) here!!!

              A few days later..realizing their Ardennes offensive(see Battle of the Bulge) was hopeless, mainly due to lack of fuel..the Germans retreated & Austin’s company freed.
              He tried to give that guard his wristwatch, as a token of thanks..said guard refused, shook his hand & wished him well.

              Austin always said..the SS soldiers/grenadiers weren’t the monsters the world made them out to be..they were simply the best trained & toughest soldiers in that conflict!

              ..his words..not mine.

              • eppe

                There are some who are human, in this world of inhumanity… Even years ago…

              • Smokey

                He had a pretty limited experience with them, then. The 1st SS Panzer Division committed numerous atrocities, including the executions of captured Canadians in Normandy, several instances of that, and the Wermeth and Malmedy Massacres. Their commander was tried for war crimes after the war, due to the pervasive nature of the incidents, not just one, but a pattern of them.

                I’m glad your friend survived, he was lucky. A different group of German troops and officers could have meant death.

          • Eyesopenanddisgusted

            I enjoy 02’s post, what is your problem? WOW!

      2. Socrates

        You can ignore reality all you want. Reality is not going to ignore YOU! It’s coming. Got preps?

        • 02

          I do not trust the US versus Russia story in this current Ukraine crisis. It is actually, a behind the scenes push for the ” One World Government”. You can be sure, many, many, people will die – on both sides if they succeed pulling off this slight of hand – it won’t be slight – in their actual agenda pushing towards achieving the “New World Order read: One World Government, One World Currency, one small group of sociopath elites controlling your lives like a prison warden or worse agenda.”. But maybe we all can actually stop this old script from continuing and from succeeding.

          • sixpack

            I doubt it 02, too many people are still trying to figure out how the Russians must be plotting to kill us all. They refuse to focus on the NWO behind the scenes. The Russians seem to have figured out who the real enemy is, why can’t WE?

        • Henry Hoggins

          153 Chinese passengers. Possible provocation for China’s entry into war in East Asia? Syria is Russia’s ally, which is also Iran’s friend. Malaysians are opposition Sunni like Saudi Arabia. Two birds with one stone? And China is tight with Europe, so distraction is good, especially with common enemies to Russia and Iran. All suspicious.

          (Oh yeah, and bacon is infected with PED, so keep the profits rolling, while keeping the public stupid, for the hedge funds funding their respective governments).

      3. Nathan Cline

        Is it wrong that I’m on the edge of my seat looking forward to the day when all these loud mouthed pro-Establishment fucktards are proven TOTALLY, and COMPLETELY wrong about everything? Will I be wrong for laughing my ass off when the world comes crashing down around their ears, as they stand there dumbfounded?

        • TnAndy


          They already KNOW the game will be up…it was baked into the plan. These folks are NOT stupid.

          Then they will pull out a ‘new and improved’ version, and run it another 100 years.

          • Nathan Cline

            “These folks are NOT stupid.”

            Sure they are. They have allied themselves with Satan. That makes them incredibly stupid. I can see the gaps and flaws in their plans….can you?

            • 02

              You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

        • Government Guy

          They won’t be standing around dumbfounded. While keeping everyone else occupied they’re making plans to redistribute our preps. I know. I know. “When they pry it from your cold, dead hands.” They’re making plans for that too.

          • Nathan Cline

            And their plans will fail, fatally.

            • Barn Cat

              America will become a police state. We’ll have a one world government. The one prophesied in Revelation. Ultimately their plans will fail because Jesus Christ will come back for His millennial reign.

              • VRF

                Agree with you on the police state thing, although.. were already there.

          • Barn Cat

            No, they don’t want to redistribute your preps. They want most Americans to die as part of Agenda 21. They want a world population of 500 million. That means 13 out of every 14 people have to die.

            • eppe

              They even carved it in granite, Georgia Giudestones…

              • 02

                So who are these elusive Theys?

                • eppe

                  That is a very good question, that no one have been able to answer, but you have to research it yourself…

                  Probably the NWO from many years ago. They have a plan, even if it takes years to formulate, been there, really creepy, but it does give you an idea of us “useless eaters”. Not to be a downer, but a little googling will set you on the right path…hopefully…

        • TimTheCrusader

          Greg Hunter posted an excellent video the other day about the US dollar, Ukraine, Russia, etc. It’s about 36 minutes long but it’s worth it.

      4. 02

        Russia, China, and numerous other countries, including U.S. “allies”, have been calling for the end of the dollar’s world reserve status and the institution of a new global basket currencyusing the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR). Even Putin has suggested that the IMF take over administration of the global economy and issue the SDR as a world currency system. This flies in the face of those who argue that the IMF is somehow “American run”. The truth is, the IMF is run by global banks and no more answers to the U.S. government than the Federal Reserve answers to the U.S. government.

        But you can see clearly no matter which way you go, up or down the ladder, the tribe has a lock on currency issued. We are truly doomed.

        • Barn Cat

          Right, 02. The Gentile tribe. The tribe of the Nazis, the Chinese Communists, and the Russian communists.

          • 02

            Do I have to explain who runs the IMF and world bank or are you stupid or something?

            • Them Guys

              Barn Cat thinks Prune face Alan Greenspan was a chineese kommie!….OyVey!..I mean…Ahhh..Sooooo!!! chop chop!

              • Them Guys

                BARN CAT: Refute THIS!

                In Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)

                Well-informed observers, both inside and outside of Russia, took note at the time of the crucial Jewish role in Bolshevism. Winston Churchill, for one, warned in an article published in the February 8, 1920, issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald that Bolshevism is a “worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality.” The eminent British political leader and historian went on to write:13

                There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate, Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek — all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combatting Counter-Revolution [the Cheka] has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

                HERES MORE!

                David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a January 1918 dispatch to Washington: “The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution.”14

                The Netherlands’ ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, made much the same point a few months later: “Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things.”15

                “The Bolshevik Revolution,” declared a leading American Jewish community paper in 1920, “was largely the product of Jewish thinking, Jewish discontent, Jewish effort to reconstruct.”16
                American Hebrew (New York), Sept. 1920. Quoted in: Nathan Glazer and Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Beyond the Melting Pot (Cambridge, Mass.: 1963), p. 268.

                As an expression of its radically anti-nationalist character, the fledgling Soviet government issued a decree a few months after taking power that made anti-Semitism a crime in Russia. The new Communist regime thus became the first in the world to severely punish all expressions of anti-Jewish sentiment.17 Soviet officials apparently regarded such measures as indispensable. Based on careful observation during a lengthy stay in Russia, American-Jewish scholar Frank Golder reported in 1925 that “because so many of the Soviet leaders are Jews anti-Semitism is gaining [in Russia], particularly in the army [and] among the old and new intelligentsia who are being crowded for positions by the sons of Israel.”18

                Summing up the situation at that time, Israeli historian Louis Rapoport writes:19

                Immediately after the [Bolshevik] Revolution, many Jews were euphoric over their high representation in the new government. Lenin’s first Politburo was dominated by men of Jewish origins.

                Under Lenin, Jews became involved in all aspects of the Revolution, including its dirtiest work. Despite the Communists’ vows to eradicate anti-Semitism, it spread rapidly after the Revolution — partly because of the prominence of so many Jews in the Soviet administration, as well as in the traumatic, inhuman Sovietization drives that followed. Historian Salo Baron has noted that an immensely disproportionate number of Jews joined the new Bolshevik secret police, the Cheka And many of those who fell afoul of the Cheka would be shot by Jewish investigators.

                The collective leadership that emerged in Lenin’s dying days was headed by the Jew Zinoviev, a loquacious, mean-spirited, curly-haired Adonis whose vanity knew no bounds.

                “Anyone who had the misfortune to fall into the hands of the Cheka,” wrote Jewish historian Leonard Schapiro, “stood a very good chance of finding himself confronted with, and possibly shot by, a Jewish investigator.”20 In Ukraine, “Jews made up nearly 80 percent of the rank-and-file Cheka agents,” reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an American professor of Russian history.21 (Beginning as the Cheka, or Vecheka) the Soviet secret police was later known as the GPU, OGPU, NKVD, MVD and KGB.)

                In light of all this, it should not be surprising that Yakov M. Yurovksy, the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murder of the Tsar and his family, was Jewish, as was Sverdlov, the Soviet chief who co-signed Lenin’s execution order.22

                Igor Shafarevich, a Russian mathematician of world stature, has sharply criticized the Jewish role in bringing down the Romanov monarchy and establishing Communist rule in his country. Shafarevich was a leading dissident during the final decades of Soviet rule. A prominent human rights activist, he was a founding member of the Committee on the Defense of Human Rights in the USSR.

                In Russophobia, a book written ten years before the collapse of Communist rule, he noted that Jews were “amazingly” numerous among the personnel of the Bolshevik secret police. The characteristic Jewishness of the Bolshevik executioners, Shafarevich went on, is most conspicuous in the execution of Nicholas II:23

                In his 1920 book, British veteran journalist Robert Wilton offered a similarly harsh assessment:24

                The whole record of Bolshevism in Russia is indelibly impressed with the stamp of alien invasion. The murder of the Tsar, deliberately planned by the Jew Sverdlov (who came to Russia as a paid agent of Germany) and carried out by the Jews Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov and Yurovsky, is the act not of the Russian people, but of this hostile invader.

                WAKE UP BARN KITTY!

                • Them Guys

                  BARN CAT: Six Million jews “gassed” etc by Nazis? This website has ACTUAL German, British, And American Govnt military taken Air Photos taken by special Airplanes, of EVERY “Death camp” etc. Heres a small sample of the Factual proofs..VIEW the camp photos & READ entire Expose of Jewish Lies and No such thing of Six Million jews killed.

                  6. Conclusions
                  Hamburg, Katyn, Bergen-Belsen
                  The mass graves of Hamburg, Katyn and Bergen-Belsen demonstrate how great the area requirements are for mass graves. Due to the area required for the excavated material, which in realistic terms is much greater than the theoretical minimum areas calculated in Table 1, 10,000 bodies need at least 4,000m2 (43,000 sq.ft.). Treblinka Mass graves for the alleged 700,000 to 1.2 million victims of this camp would have required 40 times as much space as the witnesses state was available. The ground in the camp area shows no traces of former building foundations, large mass graves or burning pits.

                  Sobibor, Belzec, Majdanek
                  As in the case of Treblinka, it would have been impossible in Majdanek or Belzec to keep any mass murder secret; the close proximity of settlements and roads, and the cultivation of surrounding farm land right up to the camp fences, saw to that. In no case is there any evidence for mass graves or burning pits. Babi Yar The ravine of Babi Yar underwent no noticeable changes in topography or vegetation up to the end of the War. There are no signs of human intervention during the time of German occupation. There was no human activity there at the time of the mass cremations attested to by the witnesses.

                  The few air photos of Auschwitz-Birkenau known to date from the period of December 1943 to February 1945 show no signs of fuel depots, smoke from chimneys or open fires, burning pits or pyres. The photos were altered: Zyklon B input hatches, groups of inmates, and walls around crematoria were retouched onto the photo negatives. Insofar as they still exist, photos of good quality are being kept from the public. One must assume that any actual mass murder activities would not have escaped the notice of the air photo interpreters. This would have resulted in the bombing of the camp – which, however, was carefully refrained from.

                  The Bottom Line
                  To this day there is no air photo evidence to support the alleged mass murder of the Jews at any location in Europe occupied by the Germans during World War Two. Further, air photo analysis refutes the claim that the Nazis had intended, at whatever time, to keep events in the alleged extermination camps secret. In many cases the air photos provide clear proof that some of the events attested to by witnesses, such as the destruction of the Hungarian Jews or the mass executions at Babi Yar, did not in fact take place. We may hope that the release of Soviet air photos dating from the time the camps were in operation will shed further light on these issues. The fact that these photos have not been published to date may already speak for itself. That the photos in Western hands were altered in order to incriminate Germany, and were first published by the CIA, is also very significant indeed.

                  www dot whale dot to/b/ball dot html

                  Article & ACTUAL WWII Camp Photos by:

                  (3) For the air photos the reader is referred to my report: J. C. Ball, Air Photo Evidence, Ball Resource Services Ltd., Suite 160-7231, 120th St., Delta, BC, Canada, V4C 6P5, 1992

                  I DARE Anybody to try and Refute This Photo Analyst’s Expertize and actual Photo evidence as Shown and explained!…Need proof? SEE & READ at website!

                  Prefer delusional falsehoods as Taught? Remain in FEAR of that webiste and stay away from it, by all means!

      5. hammerhead

        I,M gonna sit here and beat my chest as i scream :
        U-S-A U-S-A U-S-A and drink a cold beer i got by trading food stamps .
        Then maybe a nap to end my busy day.

        • Mcdave


      6. Sgt. Dale

        If you have $1.00 and it is worth $1.00 this dollar is only backed by your word, then you print another $1.00 doesn’t that cause the worth of the first $1.00 only worth $.50, because it is only back by verbiage.
        Now if the $1.00 is backed by Gold or some other P.M. and you added more Gold or P.M. to your stock and them you printed another $1.00 it would still be worth the $1.00.
        Let us keep going with all the Q.E. and the dollar will be worth less than T.P. It’s only a matter of time and it will go BOOM!!!
        You should use “GOT PREPS” like I use AIM SMALL MISS SMALL.

        • 1braveheart

          Howdy, Sarge. I have to agree about the dollar. Only a matter of time before it dies. I hope everyone is still prepping. For those who won’t listen to us, they’re going to be in a world of hurt when TSHTF. MOLON LABE braveheart

          • Sgt. Dale

            You are right people need to keep prepping. The Wife and I are buying more silver, She picked up some more canned foods, and I have been rolling more AMMO. Hoping my son will be by tomorrow to work on the Carbines or the 9mm’s.
            Just can’t have too much P.M. (HA-HA)
            We just got another 4+ inches of snow last night, but it is melting away today. I want to get out and double check my scopes on three of my rifles. Darn I just having to shoot my rifles. NOT!!!
            How are thing with you. I hope and Pray things are good. How the non-smoking going. It takes a strong person to quit. But once you do you will feel great. Food will taste better. This is what I have been told by many peoples. Still looking for land in Middle Tenn.

            • 1braveheart

              Sarge, I’m still hanging in there on the non-smoking and yes, food does taste different to me these days. Speaking of Carbines, I have an M1 Carbine I’m taking to a gunsmith to have a scope mount installed on it. The guy who sold it to me 2 years ago told me because of how the receiver was designed it would require a gunsmith to install it. That weapon will be my MBR. MOLON LABE braveheart

              • 02

                Wait until you sense of smell is 90% and then for your reward of quitting smoking, go treat yourself to an expensive meal of your fav food. YOU WILL notice how great it tastes. You deserve it BH, quitting smoking is a huge moment in your timeline. It will be 18 years come August for me. 2 pack a day man for 25 years.

              • ready down under

                Sarge and Brave, what a lot of people don’t or wont realise is your dollars, our dollars, the Brits pound and the Euro’s euro are just a faith based bit of paper. All currencies are based on the willingness of a person to accept it as a medium of exchange. It used to be silver and gold coins but a pocket full of them was a pain to carry around so we have itty bitty bits of paper with different numbers on ’em.

                They are only “worth” anything while ever the person with them can exchange them for what he wants.

                If/when TSHTF you could come to me with a wheelbarrow full of $$’s asking to swap them for a brick of 22’s and I’ll tell you to take a hike. Offer me a gold coin or two and we may strike a deal – and that is only coz I have LOTS and LOTS of bricks of 22’s 🙂

                Mac has told me there is going to be a PM system coming to this site soon. If you guys are willing I’d like to chat to you both. Mac tried to send my email addy to Ugly but it bounced as his address must have been dodgy sooooooo, hey Ugly, you owe me those Fosters and I’ll hold you to it buddy! 🙂

                Keep the faith guys.


              • Paranoid

                Brave; Why do you want a scope on an M1 Carbine? I have one, I like it; but it’s a pistol bullet on a longer barrel. My eyes aren’t that good anymore, but at any distance I’d want an M1, I don’t need a scope. An M1 is a fine rifle for 100 yds or so, and for most things that’s all you need. Put a scope on 30-06 or 308, carbine is for close in fast firepower.

                • Warchild Dammit

                  Eh,custom loads might stretch the distance,hell,have a scope on the new crossbow(came with it)and lets be real,good to at best 60 yards.I did just realize,I might want the crossbow in a bad situation,and as with anything,want back up(for lack of better word in this case)iron sites/their equivalent.

              • Sgt. Dale

                You might want to check into a hand guard with a weaver type rail. Ultimak, F.S. scout mount, UTG Tactical just to name a few. I’m looking at putting a dot type sight on one of mine. What is nice about these is you still keep your regular sights.

              • Smokey

                BH, if that M1 Carbine is a WWII issue with matching parts, don’t put a scope on it or anything else. You’ll lose a lot of dollars in value.

                They’re good weapons out to about 150-200 yards, but not tack drivers. Not sure if a scope is really going to gain you anything.

                A Mini-14 or -30 would be a good choice for a scoped semiauto.

                • Hunter


                • Warchild Dammit

                  I love the mini’s but have read many times if not cleaned daily out in the real rough do not stand up long term without a total strip down,what are your thoughts/experience with the 15-30’s

                  • Smokey

                    You have to keep any semiauto rifle clean, but I’ve not had a problem with the Mini-14. Keep the bolt oiled, that’s the moving part, and use good-quality magazines and ammo.

                    For really rough duty, I think you want to consider a military design, like the AR, FAL, HK, that kind of platform.

              • Hunter


                Just curious bud…why put a scope on such a short range weapon like the M1 carbine?
                The milspec sights are pretty good, for the ranges its capable of shooting accurately out to.

                Not criticizing..merely curious.

      7. Walt Kowalski

        Waiting for Durango Kid to tell us how this can’t happen.

        • hammerhead

          LOL , I was waiting for somebody to say THAT !

        • Peterson

          I’m headed out for some Fastfood myself.

          • 1braveheart

            Peterson, what are you doing back here?

            • sam druker

              Keep smokin bravefart and stop agreeing with everyone , makes you sound like a bitch.

              • BJ

                Isn’t 1brave a girl?

        • TnAndy

          Amen, Walt…….just any time now……

        • BJ

          As soon as I seen the headline, DK was the first think that popped into my mind.

          I posted up above to eppe, that the picture was of DK swimming around snatching up $10 bills for his #10 cans.

        • yourmotherwaswrong

          Walt Kowalski says:

          “Waiting for Durango Kid to tell us how this can’t happen.”

          LOL… Me too. I love a good fairy tail.

          And DK tells the best.

          • 1braveheart

            YMWW, how are you these days?

        • wrong


        • durango kidd

          Hey walt! To “what” are you referring? I couldn’t make the connection. If in doubt, blame Bush, then the Half Breed. 🙂

        • Them Guys

          Heres Good Info while you wait for DK’s Postings!

          Excerpts from: The Jewish Conquest of America…
          BY:by Bob Finch, April 10, 2008

          Orig Article at www dot iraq-war dot ru/

          The Israelis in America control the republican party and the democratic party and even the green party. They control the left wing of American politics (Noam Chomsky, Stephen Zunes) almost as much as they control the extreme right wing. They control congress. Jack Abramoff apparently had in the region of 60 members of congress on his payroll. And these were not insignificant members of congress either since he funded tom delay who provided Dick Cheney’s power base.

          This Israeli was not only funding American goyims, but terrorists in the Jews-only state. And this is the political influence of just one Jewish billionaire. When
          AIPAC and all the other Jewish lobbying groups in America, whose prime loyalties are to the Jews-only state in Palestine, are taken into consideration, the Jews are financing virtually all members of congress.

          These days when American politicians talk about the need to defend their country from external threats what they mean is any challenge to the Jews-only state in Palestine.

          Wayne Madsen has suggested they’re aiming to take control of the super secret National Security Agency (NSA) – America’s premier electronic surveillance body.

          “What has some NSA officials worried is that with pro-Israeli Neocons now engrained within the CIA, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), State Department, and National Security Council, NSA is ripe for penetration by Israeli intelligence. With outside contractors now permeating NSA and a major Israeli espionage operation being discovered inside the Pentagon, once again there is a fear within NSA that foreign intelligence services such as the Mossad could make another attempt to penetrate America’s virtual “Fort Knox” of intelligence treasures and secrets.”

          (Wayne Madsen ‘The Neocon power grab at NSA and an attempt to stifle the press’

          Israelis own and control the American media. They compose the largest group of billionaires in America who fund a vast network of political research organizations which determine the views of America’s Jewish owned media and America’s Jewish funded politicians.

          In 1950s America, as in many other western countries, there were taboos preventing people from talking about a range of social issues such as homosexuality, incest, male rape, etc, etc. These days nobody would think twice about discussing these issues. The only taboos in the western world these days have to do with Jews. There is a taboo about Jewish funding of political parties (in America and Britain).

          There is a taboo against the influence of the Jewish lobby on American politicians. There is a taboo about Jewish attempts to take over the Russian economic and political system.

          There is a taboo about the tribute payments that America makes to its Jewish masters in the Jews-only state in Palestine.

          “The Congress, the Executive branch, state and local governments, and national and local media have all come under the influence of the Jewish “lobby’s” pro-Israel agenda to the point that none or few dare to criticize Israel or its US representatives.”

          (James Petras ‘The meaning of war: A heterodox perspective’


          The Israelis have even transformed christianity in America. There are now tens of millions of so-called christian Zionists who have come to believe in the zionist god of vengeance rather than the christian god of forgiveness. They no longer live on a god given planet but focus solely on the god given land of Palestine.

          The devotion of these dechristianized Zionists to the sacred Jewish land of Palestine and Jews-only state in Palestine is such that one of them blurted out at a major conference the logical outcome of their beliefs.

          ‘I love America,’ Arthur said, her voice quivering with emotion. ‘But if it came to a choice between Israel and America, I would stand with Israel.'” (Christian Zionist author, Kay Arthur of Precepts Ministries quoted in Justin Raimondo ‘Putting Israel First’

          U.S.A, MILITARY POWERS! Who Controls it?

          There is not the slightest doubt that the American military is by far and away the most formidable military power in the world. But who controls that military is an entirely different matter. The American politicians who dictate military policy are not wasps but Israelis – agents of the Jews-only state in Palestine. So, in effect the Jews-only state controls American politicians who control the American military which wages war for the sake of Jewish world domination.

          There is no such thing as an American empire. America does not have an empire. On the contrary, America has become part of the Jewish empire which dictates America’s domestic and foreign policies.

          The policies that America is pursuing in the middle east have nothing to do with America’s national interests – on the contrary, over the last four decades it has been forced to fight the wars on behalf of its Jewish master. In the so-called Yom Kippur war of 1973 the Americans were forced to back the Jews-only state against the encircling Arab armies which resulted in an Arab oil boycott that pushed America and the world economy into a recession which lasted nearly a decade.

          If America had sided with the Arabs it would have enjoyed an economic bonanza selling American goods to secular Arab consumer societies. If the Jews-only state did not exist there would have been peace and stability in the middle east which would have boosted global prosperity.

          Instead, America’s Jewish masters have cost America vast economic losses, the losses of many American troops, and the enmity of the Arab and Islamic world.

          “The passionate attachment to Israel, the dual loyalty felt by many Americans – whereby Israel’s interests are put on the same or higher level than U.S. interests – has come back to haunt the United States through the agency of a President willing to adopt the most extravagant dreams of right wing Israelis and pro-Israeli hawks.

          The result is that the full might of the world’s only super power has been dragged into Israel’s service despite the costs, and the dangers and the folly of such a policy. Attachment to Israel has come back to haunt America by enabling a decisive shift in US. policy away from helping to preserve the peace and security of the world and turning the U.S. into an aggressor nation, just as Israel has been and continues to be.”
          (Ronald Bleier ‘Invading Iraq: Converging U.S. and Israeli Agendas’

      8. Brane Frees

        I expect that it won’t be too long before a roll of toilet paper is worth more than a roll of $100 bills – because toilet paper will actually have a useful purpose to folks.

        • Nebraska

          Time to stock up and get more Toilet Paper lol

        • 1braveheart

          Brane Frees, I can actually appreciate the irony in that. Toilet paper more useful than money, i.e. “alleged money”. Sad but true. I hope everyone is still prepping. I know I am all the way til’ the last minute.

        • Barn Cat

          You can’t flush dollar bills. They don’t break down. So you have to use them in an outhouse.

          • Brane Frees

            Uh… I wouldn’t even CONSIDER wiping my butt with those nasty things!

            Do you realize some of the places they’ve been?

            Huh-uh! Nope!

            Newspaper, catalogs, leaves… hell – ANYTHING but dollar bills.


      9. VRF

        Im glad they are convinced…it leaves them out of the loop for when it hits the skids they wont be ready, or even planning on doing anything proactive..good for those of us that seen this coming, bad for those who thought were all nutz

        a teachable moment if you will

        • db427

          I will not be ‘good’ for anybody, more like the best you can manage. try turning off the electricity to your home for one month, see how prepped you are. no, don’t run on about your genny, fuel will burn quickly. try cutting that tree without the chainsaw, tilling that garden without the tiller, protecting your preps with no sleep, paying your taxes with no income, trusting anyone for barter, an unimaginable amount of things that we haven’t even thought of yet, with no room for error.
          we can prep to what we think best, but trust me, no one will be glad. when the true reality comes back, and the effect of our red, white, and blue pill run out, we are in for a world of hurt.
          for you history buffs out there, what happened after rome fell. how long after being exposed that they were too weak to protect themselves did it take for the hordes to come and take what was left?

          • Them Guys

            What happened in England when they Lost world reserve status on their money?…Nothing. Zero riots, zero collapse.

            What happened a decade ago when all those euro nations adopted different money called the EU dollar?…Nothing.

            Zero riots, zero collapse, zero millions starved in streets. Every nation that switched from prior national moneys TO new EU dolalrs Kept rolling and humming along as usual and normal.

            And the eu combo nations has a Billion citizens, so by standards many here promote that entire EU nations should have Imploded into total riots and chaos and overall destruction of it all right…But none of that occured.

            Just one day at a Pre set deadline day, all eu nations folks had to hand over former moneys and RECIEVED EU dollars in exchange. Like going to a bank to cash a check probobly. Walk in to bank hand teller france dollars, walk Out with New EU dollars of equal or very near equal worth as former french cash was…Same for a Dozen other countries there and as of Today its like 28 total nations did that switch over…

            None had ANY troubles or collapses UNTILL jewish banksters of IMF and BIS etc forced nations like greese, and soon Ukraine into austerity measures. Which simply means 99% of persons there get their pay or pensions Cut in 1/2 or smaller…While crooked polititions and jew banksters fill pockets and stuff shnoze’s with everybodys former wealth. And “Privatize” it all, like usa neocons promote IE: “PPP”s or Public Private Partnerships(recall GW re stateing that over and over, ad infinitum)

            Wait till ukraines folks realize their Unelected fraud jewish banksters new leadership apointed by us state dept nuland and zio IMF banksters begins same systems as done in Greese recently. It was already anounced coupld days ago by ukraines new self apointed Usurper, “Yatz the YID” Prez, that all Pensions are being cut by at least a Half per month!…Paychecks also I think they stated.

            1930’s jewdeo bolsheikommies mass forced starved 7 to 10 Million in Ukraine. Now today 2014 the Grandkids of those starved are cheering their new jewdeo bolshies grandkids aka jewish IMF banksters etc as the New leaders and Prez of ukraine!…Very DUMB…Very Stupid.. Very BLIND.

            • Smokey

              ‘What happened to England when they lost their world reserve currency status?’

              Plenty happened. They rationed food until 1950, five years after WWII, because they couldn’t pony up for the cost of importing it. They minted base metal coinage in 1946, two decades before the rest of the world took the silver out in 1965. The Pound dropped 50% against every other world currency in two years. They couldn’t afford to maintain their empire, so they gave it up, in just a few years. They lost Suez, their oil holdings had to be sold, they became a second-rate world power. Without nukes, they would be another Sweden, or Italy.

              • Them Guys

                The Main Bad effects in england was due to their Folly of another global world war. WWII caused far greater troubles for england than anything that likley would have occured if NO wwii was going on when they lost reserve status….So to compare that to usa today is wrong headed.

                If england lost reserve status withOUT any world war WWII as an also issue…much of its troubles would not have occured probobly.

                Besides if usa loses world reserve status now…They will begin use of New money same as EU nations did. To think or believe its all going to simply collapse and shut down entirely while 300 million people just stand on a corner without any place to buy gas or food etc…Is absurd.

                If they did fully shut down america 100% as many folks believe will happen?…Then it wont be long before all 300 Million realize just whom it was whos to blame most. The Very group some here idolize and defend as victims who never do wrong due to their Blind acceptance of a lifetime of False teachings about that group.

                There Is still Hope though! Since we who are alerting folks to Facts and Truths regarding these issues and that group, are fast growing into a very Large number of awakened, wized up people. And all who awaken to it all cannot wait to inform many others so they too will awaken!

                Once the scales Tip a bit farther towards the scales Truth side…Then we will All see changes. Good changes. Good for 98% of americans anyways. Maybe not so good for that 2% group and their defenders or supporters.

                DISCLAIMER: Of Course it goes without saying that, ONLY the Guilty of that 2% group, and Any other groups if any, should be Prosecuted as such. As Always Leave the Truly innocent Alone, punish Only the Guilty!

                But the Other side of That coin, is there will be no automatic free pass for somebody just due to they belong to any certain group, be it a 2% group or a 90% group.

                And that Today Is one of americas biggest Problems. Far Too Many folks, due to Blindness to truths and facts, have been totally brainwashed to give a free pass to every person from within that 2% group, without question.

                Thats going to Soon End!…Soon as folks are awakened properly and truthfully. A Glorius day that shall be eh!

            • Brandon Smith

              The UK didn’t hyperinflate their currency in order to buy their own treasury bonds. Also, their currency lost around 20% of it’s value in the span of a couple years, and they ended up being forced into the European Union because their economy never recovered from the blow.

              Though there are similarities between England and the U.S. in terms of how the dollar is being derailed as a world reserve, there is considerable difference in how the U.S. is handling the problem, i.e., our government and central bank have made things much worse through monetization.

              A far more apt comparison would be Weimar Germany or Argentina in 2002. I noticed you left those examples out…

              • Them Guys

                I Left germany and argentina out because neither was a world reserve money, and they wern’t being switched to a new or different money such as EU nations did with transfer to eu dollars. I am basically saying its bullshit for folks to believe america is going to 100% collapse and all things grind to a total Halt.

                Only Natural events or acts of God as they are called can do that type 100% collapse. To have a man made collapse as that would harm the top 1% wealthy folks and wall street and banksters more than all others combined.

                They aint going to cause that. IMF may try to force austerity like greese or ukraine upon usa folks. but if they try that I expect we will see mass riots etc.

                But total collapse where 99% of folks can no longer buy anything, pay any bills etc and just sit there with zero hope or alternatives is plain goofy and cultish mentality due to so many gold sellers online fear mongering articles past 10 yrs. Plus tons of RE set after the “Big” event fiction books. Fiction sells boos no doubt. But fiction aint reality. reality is lots closer to similar to EU nations switched their dollars for eu dollars and nothing drastic occured I am aware of.

                I seems there is a Vast Cult like mentality emerging lately. That is like for so long folks have heard, read, and believed in total usa collapse any day now…That many seem Angry that it has NOT yet happened!…Many posters Here say they cannot wait for it and Want total collapse to occure as they believe of course that They are going to be the special elect group doing that fabled re set after the smoke clears. Like how those fiction story books all end. Books end how the writer say it ends.

                Americas Not a fiction book story. None of the folks Here not me or You are going to ever Live long enough for any fabled re set event, if things got that bad.

                Many do seem very angery it hasn’t yet occured. They are wishing for very Bad to happen. Thats plain stupid. Stupidity based on fables read of in Fiction collapse book stories where the Patriots always do that RE set event within a few yrs afterwards.

                Perhaps what their True anger is about and none will admit to it, is they are haveing second thoughts after seeing gold drop a third in value, silver dropped what was it? 60% or more from its high. Even if they bought at One dollar its still a Loss since they could have cashed in at way higher profit before prices fell.

                First thing every buy gold article stated then was,Hold gold prices SOON sky rocket, back up trucks buy buy buy more!…yet at least a full year and prices has NOT gone back up…..Yes it sounds to me as many folks are second guessing a decade of daily fear mongering articles, of soon! any minit total collapse 100 million dying in streets by next week!…Many folks spent a small fortune prepping, forgone various Other lifes items and pleasures, and it ant yet happened.

                While those who invested in the stocks market past 5-6 yrs have become Millionaires. One tv report other day just reported america NOW has the Highest number of New millionaires and overall total millionaires than at any other time or era prior to NOW.

                That sure dont equate to any day collapse eh. That causes anger that maybe folks listened to the Wrong advisors.

                But they can’ admit maybe america wont collapse in Their lifetimes so they get angry and Wish collapse to occure assap!

                Well I for one hope it never occures. I do Not relish seeing such evils occure to reg avg folks. Especially folks who have had bad times due to NO fault of their own.

                I also wonder why so many complain of those type folks recieving food stamps during hard times, yet they NEVER complain of forien policy sepnding by fed govnt to so many nations…Specially that Rabid banidt war monger state of Israel!…No when it comes to state of israel oh thats different…Thats Gods chozens so grant them all they desires….Khazars are Self chozens, and folks here in usa are deluded into such false beliefs to think otherwise.

                If us dolalrs collapse or not we can’t do a thing either way. excepr personal preps. All the other extra preps advertized to buy tons of to be ready for that fabled RE set event…Well yes it sure earns big profits for the sellers of such items eh. Personally I expect if our dollars are done away with it will be more like an EU switch dollars event. I do not think we are going to lose values and if we do it wont be drastic.

                Never be like wiemier or argentina or zimbawbwee events.

                Wiemer was due to jews declared WAR on germany and is people in 1933, and it got Fixed by/when hitler got elected and booted jewish banksters Out. Ended usury intrest, Ended debt created cash…Had germany back at top of euro nations in LESS than 5 yrs.

                Funny with a thousand websites and 100,000 articles at those sites combined of “expert” advise on Every issue related to money and usa collapse etc.

                NONE ever mentions jew banksters, and NONE ever offers as the main FIX issue,the END to intrest usury and state created dollars DEBT FREE huh?

                Even the famous hero Ron Paul while he says end the fed…Paul never says end jewish control of banks, Nor does he say End usury intrest..I wonder why that is?

                True heros, with Real Fixes do Not ever Fear to speak out honestly even if its negative info about Jew Banksters, and crooked polititions bribed by jew orgs etc.

                First one who Does will probobly get MY Vote for PREZ of usa…..That will be a True Fix or RE set event.

      10. hammerhead

        seriously , what the hell can we do about this economic
        collapse ? It seems inevitable at this point .
        We cant pay the bill , plain and simple.
        As regular working class folks , all we can do is try to effect change though elections . and then the representatives we select are corrupted by power 6 mos after they arrive in DC .
        I can stand and scream and watch the eyes roll at every
        TWP meeting about not takin fed grant money or trying to pound the reality of Agenda 21 into thick heads with glazed eyes every chance i get. But thats local.
        How the hell do we stop a global monetary takeover ?
        HUH ?

        • 02

          How the hell do we stop a global monetary takeover? We cant HH, we have to use the currency as issued. THEY (tribe) tell us what we are allowed and what we aren’t. Like you said Agenda 21 and the Georgia Guide Stones says we all must die except for them and a few slaves. Christ is our only hope.

          • hammerhead

            Until Christ shows up and points me towards home, I cant just sit on my ass and do nothin.
            Maybe some fresh tinfoil on my ballcap………

            • wrong

              My guess is that your doing everything you can at this point. Don’t give up the hard work. I’m also thinking that if you just do the tinfoil directly on your head it would do more. That ballcap stops some of the effect I’m pretty sure.

              • hammerhead

                wrong, you know Antrim county went to court and threw out ALL tenents of Agenda 21 ?
                They get it .
                I use this as an example . It aint tinfoil shit.

          • BJ

            Freedom In Christ

            For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 1 Corinthians 7:22

            The desire for freedom is a longing of the human heart. It is the heartbeat of God. Liberty for all is foundational to free nations. Let freedom ring is the battle cry of republics who have sacrificed lives, so future generations can live free. It opens door of opportunities, like freedom to worship and work. We are free to be sad or glad, free to pursue God or money, and free to experience good or evil. Freedom in Christ is fundamental to the faith. By faith in Jesus, we are free indeed.

            However, we have an enemy to freedom: slavery. Slavery to sin, self, and Satan. A soul’s bondage brings despair and dread. We are not free to make wise choices, until our minds have been freed from the confusing claims of lies. But, truth clarifies. Moreover, there is a hideous slavery to sinister human beings. Human slavery treats people like property, not as precious people created by almighty God. Those imprisoned by evil need the righteous to rise up. Yes, freedom in Christ bears the responsibility to rescue those trafficked by greedy perverts. We must help the captives!

            “But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life”(Romans 6:22).

            Furthermore, freedom in Christ comes from being a slave to Christ. Before Christ, our master was evil, after Christ our master was good. Before Christ our master was selfish, after Christ our master was generous. Before Christ our master was mean, after Christ our master was merciful. In Christ, we cannot serve two masters, only one: God Almighty. Thus, our glad servitude to the Lord frees us to serve for the Lord. Grace binds us to God’s love, so we are free to love for God.

            Human slavery is against the will. Spiritual slavery is free to choose. Human slavery is bondage. Spiritual slavery is freedom. Human slavery is hurtful. Spiritual slavery is healing. Human slavery is exploitation of helpless humans. Spiritual slavery is glorification of holy God. Thus, we ask ourselves, “Does anything other than Jesus Christ master any part of my life?” “Who in my life needs to be set free by faith in Jesus?” “How can I bring awareness to the atrocities of human trafficking?” Freedom in Christ comes from being a slave to Christ. So, live free for Him!

            Slavery is slavery, whether it be to human trafficking, or to a tyrannical police state or to the bankers adn thier forced upon us fiat money system and fractional reserve lending and usury….compund usury at that.

            Christ’s risen body gave us freedom and liberty, but not jsut spiritually, also in the physical here and now. The founders knew that and exercised it. We want to, I want to, you want to…….but life, family etc. etc. make us afraid, that and stadning alone for fear no one will join. I know I am guilty of that, at least this day I am…….in the future when there is NO other choice, I just pray GHod is with me and my family and helps me make the right choice and be good at it.

          • Barn Cat

            How can you possibly say Christ is our only hope when you blame everything on the Jews??? You couldn’t possibly know Him.

            • 02

              Well the jews are not any hope. they sure as hell cant save us. and when i say jew, let me make it a bit more clear (not that it will do any good) theya re who the Bible describes as “those who say they are jews and are not”. Through Christ’s blood I am the new Jew. THEY are Satan’s offspring. Look it up, but THEY say they are jews so they can sling antisemitic insults at anyone standing in their way of evil and at the same time sucker people of ignorance such as you.

              • Them Guys

                .02: Barn Cat as well as a few Others it seems they refuse to believe This bible verse in the New covenant aka new testement of christ and christianity. They reject this verse since it totally Refutes what they claim of so called jews. The barn cats repeat over and over that OT genesis verse to bless abram, who was a gentile from the lands of UR back then. Gods blessing to abram, is fully explained in this verse that these fools refuse and reject.

                We know that Netanyahu and the people who now inhabit Israel have no claim to the land. They are interlopers, false pretenders. But there is a true and legitimate Chosen People of God. In fact, the scriptures had it right all along. The answer is found in….

                Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

                “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”..READ the several Prior entire verses that go with it too.

                .02, Heres what Else Barn Cat and Many folks refuse to accept, actual recent, dec 2012 DNA Evidence PROOF that most of todays jews are Khazars decended!

                NOTE: These Are Jewish scientists etc that Did DNA tests/results/Had it Vetted, Verrifed, PEER reviewed, then Finally Published by Prestigious, John Hopkins Hosp!

                Study Done in ISRAEL and HEBREW Bio Labs etc by ALL jewish folks. Call Them antisemites too? Nazis perhaps?

                or Just Honest jewish scientists Admiting Truth!!!

                In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim, of Hebrew University, a biologist, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood. Not only that but Oppenheim discovered that the Palestinians—the very people whom the Jews had been persecuting and ejecting from Israel’s land since 1948—had more Israelite blood than did the Jews. In sum, the vast majority of the Jews were not Jews; some of the Palestinians were. Some of the Palestinians even had a DNA chromosome which established that they were “Cohens”—workers at the ancient Temple and synagogues of the Jews.

                The Definitive DNA Study

                Now comes the ultimate, definitive DNA study, by Dr. Eran Elhaik and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Entitled, The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses, and published by the Oxford Journal on behalf of the Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution, the study confirms Oppenheim’s research and the many scholarly books.

                Dr. Elhaik and the prestigious Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine conclude in their report: “The Khazarian Hypothesis suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and Converted to Judaism in the eighth century…Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo-Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo-Khazars.” (Turkic Clans makes khazar/jews Esuas Edmoites! Israels Mortal Enemys of all time!)

                Who Can Argue With DNA Science?

                So DNA science has proven that the findings of many historians and anthropologists is correct. The “Jews” of Israel are not Abraham’s descendants but, instead, come from the subjects of King Bulan of Khazaria.

                The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct.

                What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

                Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.

                The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.(besides mainly Turkic/edom, they also are a mixture of HUNNS and MONGRELS, & Caucasian)(3/4th Barbarians & 1/4th white).

                Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.

                The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

                “There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.”

                Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.

                The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

                God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

                I ask my evangelical Christian friends: What will you do now? Will you heed what God said, in Revelation 2 and 3, about “them which say they are Jews and are not?” Will you accept modern DNA science as legitimate and valuable in proving the truth of God’s Word? (Great question for:Barn Cat and several Others here no?)!!

                Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

                “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

                So, if you belong to Jesus our Lord, you are “Abraham’s seed,” regardless of your physical race. You are overcomers, and Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.”

                God is not a racist. The Great Commission extends to every race and ethnicity. We who love Jesus are His Chosen People, and we have the promise first given to Abraham way back in Genesis

                Folks like Barn Cat, others, and Haters of gentiles, have Only as their rebutal to these facts…Name calling!

                They all always call you an antisemite or evil nazi or a jew hater to STIFFLE Truth Speech such as This posting!

                • sixpack

                  Well, don’t just push it around the table ThemGuys, SPIT IT OUT, why don’t ya? “We who love Jesus are His Chosen People, and we have the promise first given to Abraham way back in Genesis” I’ve been saying that forever.

                  Somebody from church was bragging about being the “direct descendant of Cain” (as in, THE Cain and Abel). I said, really? Well, I’m a direct descendent of Noah and my family survived the great flood in the Ark…the dummy is still trying to figure out how to argue with that.

                  Thanks for the DNA post.

                • Scout

                  You are correct.

          • Hamrick

            I wonder what Christ thinks about your constant denigration of the Jews in almost every post you make on this website. You know Christ was a Jew himself and he commanded us to love one another, not to hate. You need to re-read the New Testament, because you are very sadly mistaken on your interpretation on what it means to be a Christian.

            • 02

              Christ is the Alpha and Omega the first and last. He was BEFORE the making of the world. He is no way shape or form a jew and he knows who is against him. You idiots that think he has even one drop of jewish blood in him are fools. He was BEFORE any jew ever walked the earth.. get a clue.

              • grandee

                He (Jesus) came to His own (the Jews) and His own received Him not. He was Jewish. John 1:11

                • 02

                  Jesus was a ‘Judean’, not a Jew.

                  During His lifetime, no persons were described as “Jews” anywhere. That fact is supported by theology, history and science. When Jesus was in Judea, it was not the “homeland” of the ancestors of those who today style themselves “Jews”. Their ancestors never set a foot in Judea. They existed at that time in Asia, their “homeland”, and were known as Khazars. In none of the manuscripts of the original Old or New Testament was Jesus described or referred to as a “Jew”. The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term “Texan” signifies a person living in Texas.

                  • Them Guys

                    .02: Correct but for it was also spelled “IDUMEAN”

                    Bottom Line: Biggest problem I see Today with Most christians of EVERY denomination, includes catholics too, is that they all seem to believe that the Two seperate words of…”jew/jewish” and…”Israel” mean the EXACT Same thing and can both be used Interchangably.

                    WRONG as Can be!…Israel means(people wise) the entire group of ALL 12 Individual Tribes, each tribe Begun BY ONE of Jacob(name cahnges To Israel by God) 12 sons.

                    UNTILL: the 10 Northern Ephraim Tribes Split or sceeded away from Judah and benjamin TWO tribes in the southern zone. Afterwards ONLY the 10 NORTH ephraim tribes KEPT the Name of “ISRAEL” for evermore. Thats a Jacob Blessing TO his son Josephs Two twin sons ephraim and manessah when Jacob, name changed to “israel” first Met his grandkids and imeadiatly at once Blessed both twin boys. Part of the blessing was “YOU TWO and ALL decendants of Your’s both, for a THOUSAND gen’s, Will Keep MY name “Israel” and Always be Known as and Called BY israel”.(see bible verses where Jacob and Kin go to Live IN egypt due to Famine and jacobs son joseph is #2 Honcho man of egypt then! thats where that Blessing to twin sons is located at).

                    After they split away from Judah and benjamin two tribed south, JEWS as they are Today called were never called “Israel” EVER! NOT since solomon as king died and the split happened(see first or Second book Kings perhaps for it?)…

                    Abram, later called AbraHAM, Moses, Issac, Jacob later called israel, and all the hebrew folks related to abraham BEFORE the tribe of Judah formed, were NOT “jews nor jewish”…Never, Ever Period.

                    Nowheres Biblically from Page ONE of genesis, UNTILL aprox 500 pages later in 2nd Book of Kings, Chapter 16, VS 12 if I recall right, is the very Word “JEW” ever written NOR mentioned at all. Why do ya suppose that is?

                    Did Abraham, issasc, jacob, moses etc all forget to include it? or forgot they were jewish?!! NO! They Never Were Jew. Jew started as “IDUMEAN”. Get it yet? beginning to yet? Why Not? too hard to Admit Truth or what?

                    That blessing EXCLUDED Judah and benjamin. Later after solomon Died, and then the 10 tribes north Split away.

                    but they never fell off earth for good! After that 10 tribes got taken captive BY assyrains, 145 yrs before jerusulem taken by Babylons King nebucandedzer. They “dissapered” but kept producing Decendants(see euro whiteys folks for clues to whom decendants are today).

                    Do you Get it Yet deluded ones?

                    Jabons son, Judah= Tribe of folks called Judahites. Son Ephraim= Tribe of folks called Ephraimites and so on for ALL 12 tribes and ALL of Their respective decendants down thru the ages…

                    BUT, for a vast majority Todays folks, espeically christians, Super especially judaised zionist jewdeo christians primarily of Baptist and protestant denoms, have been brainwashed and deluded to think of and believe in the Two words of Israel & Jew means Jewish folks.

                    The word jew never was invented untill aprox couple centuries if that prior to Christs birth. It was a nickname for those of Jeruselem zone land or city, also used to denote folks of tribe of Judah or jews for short.

                    ALSO jew meant those who Emigrated Into jeruselem FROM Other lands and Pagan peoples etc…Egyptians, Turks etc etc…Who once ariving in jeruselem, Converted to Talmudic Judaisim and became also called “jews” Jew word was used to denote NON actual 12 tribes israelites that Converted to Talmudic Judaisim.

                    At time of Jesus’ BIRTH, Jerusulems KING Herrod(who orderd all Boys to age two yrs old Killed in attempt to Kill baby jesus etc) was called a “jew” and a “King of the Jews” but King Herrod was an EDOMITE!(later edom became Turkic! aka khazars even Later!) Herrod the Edmoite Converted to talmudic Judaisim also. Then became “King of Jews”. Thats in Your bible folks!

                    Same as today you call a convert to catholic or baptist religions by That name once they convert.

                    When Eastern Euro, todays lands, Used to be the kingdom of Khazaria lands(mainly southern russia lands). When the Khazar Pagans CONVERTED to Talmudic Judaisin which really is Phariseeisim as JQP has Proven beyond any doubts, based upon the Jew rabbis OWN worded testimonies as well as jewish Almanacs etc..

                    Khazars when they converted to judaisim NEVER changed their Orignail Blood lne DNA into Israelite!

                    Thats like Al sharpton converts to be a catholic…Then goes around telling folks “I al sharpton Used to be an african Negroe…BUT ever since I converted to catholic, I siwtched my DNA to NOW be an ITLALIAN white guy! And furthermore I al sharpton now a convert catholic havs a God given Right to RE-Occupy the Lands called ITALY and ROME since thats the main HQ of catholics at that vatican city in Italy!”

                    So then whats next Al?…Next week hes going to look into a Mirror and notice hes turned into a White apearing Italian due to a RELIGIOUS conversion prior?!!

                    EVERY Person reads This will agree That aint going to happen to negroeboy al right.

                    Then HOW and WHY can NON 12 tribes israel persons, Convert to the religion of talmudic judaisim and somehow afterwards become a TRUE DNA, Bloodline member of ANY of the original 12 tribed israel?

                    Yet Thats Precicely what most folks has been swindled or deluded into believing!…If someone says “I am jewish” BINGO! the deluded ones believe it means automatically that jew is a bonafied member a DNA, Blood relative of one of 12 tribes of ancient israel and therefore jacobs decendant!…WRONG! NO! NOPE! No Way!

                    Yes there are very small number globally who have actual true judah tribed israel dna today…Maybe 1-2% if that as per latest dec 2012 DNA Published results(my other prior posting here).

                    But so what?..A NEW Covenant was made 100% offical, Done Deal, unrefutable, 100% by the Shed Blood of Christ Himself when he Died on the cross. “IT IS FINISHED”! His final words. What finsihed?…Old covenant made with 12 tribes israel!…But God so still Loves them too, hes given folks usually called jewish a second chance!

                    Convert to Christianity, which is the NEW covenant, the ONLY avail. Covenant(only one can be in effect at one time or era) and still get Saved. I did not write that, the Apostles and Christs said or wrote that…I am Reiterating it. Its still truth be it me or You or orig apostles writting it!

                    So Lets STOP confusing israel with jew or jewish as if they mean same thing. Anyone can Verify this all in their bibles. Except of course for that Khazar stuff…Thats avail several Online websites, and Many great Books like the Thirteenth Tribe, By Aurthur Kesstler, and several more books by various authors, Many like kessler of a jewish nature writer!…ALL such writers have been sounding the horn on what or who Khazars are since at least early 1970 era…So Try and Catch UP you whoever are of that deluded bunch.(is Barn Cat awake?).

            • Them Guys

              HAMRICK: Define “jews”..IE: READ my Prior Post above Your posting!..THEN: Please RE Think what you were Falsely led to believe on this issue.

        • TnAndy

          You don’t stop it, hammerhead. That’s why they have the title “The Powers That Be”……they got the wealth and power.

          However, with today’s communications, like this, what we CAN do is understand what is coming, instead of having it spoon fed to us by a controlled news media, and quit playing. Withdraw. Starve them to the extent we can.

          That, to me, is one of the biggest things going for self sufficiency. Quit using their banks, earning their phony money, paying their taxes (as much as possible), voting (clearly a sham)….just put them on ‘ignore’

        • Mcdave

          Be John Galt.

          • 02

            Yup mcdave, just got back from an interview where I make 720 a week before taxes. I can survive ok on that but the gov sure as hell cant!

      11. maudy frickett

        Back in 2007, just before the RE market collapse, I told a millionare I know it was going to happen. I told him prices couldn’t keep going up 20% a year. Workers weren’t getting 20% raises every year. So, how were new buyers going to afford the prices? They couldn’t, it collapsed. He didn’t believe me. He lost a lot of money. Today I tell him part time workers can’t buy homes. As more and more people can only get part time work, it will collapse again. He doesn’t believe me. He’s going to lose again. Worse, home owners I know, don’t want to hear what I just said. They’re going to lose more equity soon. Or be unable to sell their homes. In my area, a lot of sales are short sales. The banks are buying the homes and renting them out. If it wasn’t for short sales and foreclosed sales and banks buying, there would be almost no real estate business here.

        • TnAndy


          Right you were. Me too. I’d built 3 single family houses between 1999 and 2005 for rentals. I thought the same thing: This is a GOOD time to sell out. Sold them over 2005/06, and I don’t think 8 years later they would bring what I got.

        • Walt Kowalski

          @maudy frickett…..

          I saw the same thing Maudy…

          I had lived in CA up until 2002, and watched the housing market shooting through the roof. But I noticed that wages were not keeping up. I said at the time, “this is not sustainable”.

          And it wasn’t.

          They just move from one bubble to another.

          Sooner or later….they will run out of bubbles.

      12. maudy frickett

        The entire economy is in shambles due to the terrible condition of the US dollar. And the US dollar is in terrible condition because it was destroyed paying for the Globalist Empire (NWO)and it’s military. And that ladies and gentlemen is why I want the NWO stopped by the Russians. I don’t like the Russian government, but it appears the American people are unable to stop the NWO on their own.

        • gun

          maybe real soon as the russians mobilized 80000 troops and a couple hundred tanks in Crimea on the border 2 hours from Kiev.

        • sixpack

          I’m in complete agreement with you, Maudy. As long as Russia is squaring off against ANY bankster takeover, I’m good with that…I just wish they’d inadvertently drop a pallet of something good in MY backyard.

      13. JRS

        In the international relations game, it’s not who controls the currency, or who controls the gold.

        It is who controls the most hydrocarbons. This is how the USSR was taken down in the eighties. The US and their lapdogs at the time, OPEC, flooded the market with crude and tanked the price whereby the USSR’s revenue tanked and they defaulted.

        We’ll see how it works out this time with the KSA pissed at the US administration and whether they can boost production.

        Five million bbls of the SPR was released this morning and the price of Brent is falling.

        I’m not sure that any of the world producers have enough capacity left to raise production levels to accomplish this. Time will tell.

        • Mcdave

          Rockin’ the Bakken.

          • 02

            Frackin the Bakken

            • Them Guys

              Back around 1980’s I think it was, the us congress Passed a law bill that allocates to Israel FIRST in time of war or crises, as Much as israel needs of the usa strategic petroleum reserves Oil america has stashed, IE aprox one Billion barrels of oil…AND that the USA fed govnt is whos going to PAY for it and Deliver it to israel should israel need it. And “IT” states as much of that stashed oil reserves Israel needs They Get! Even every last Drop!

              That one single fed law congress passed and usa Prez signed is proof solid that it IS CORRECT to call a Vast Majority, Most, of usa polititions of BOTH parties, “Israel/jewish Firsters” and NOT Pro america firsters!

              I cannot now find where I had that very Law word for word saved at!…Its a Fact its Law, you can probobly do a search and eaisly locate it if need be.

              Bottom line be it War or other serious crises..Americas one billion Saved Oil strategic reserves oil, will go to Israel first before a drop goes to americans usage!

              And ALL USA Taxpayers FUNDED this swindle!

              USA Pols aka Israel Firsters are TRAITORS! Period.

              • Them Guys

                An EXAMPLE: Of How War By Deception(israel state and its Mossad’s motto slogan) occures.

                Israel secretly scams usa into another War.

                Israel Crys they need OIL and demands usa fed govnt keep its Law to supply israel with as Much of usa strategic oil reserves, as israel wants.

                USA israel firster congress and Prez says OK and gives Israel Plenty maybe all oil reserves that exist.

                Israel in Secret SELLS that Oil from usa reserves stash, TO whatever Enemy nation usa was swindled into a War with BY israel’s “War by Deception methods”!

                Israel leaders keep/pocket oil profits, america again Loses a war, goes bankrupt-er yet…Israel whines and crys that the entire world of people are all nazi antisemites, to get even More Cash from usa!

                Israeli Khazar frauds laugh all the way to their cousins jewish banks. Amerians Starve….

              • sixpack

                I thought I just read something on yahoo news about the U.S. releasing a million barrels from our reserves, I just can’t remember what they were doing with it. Anyone?

        • hammerhead

          yep , Obama released 5 million barrels of reserves .
          Those are RESERVES ! Would you dump your preps to piss someone off ? Thats what Obama is doing.
          This man is scary stupid and playin a game WAY outta his league.

          • Mcdave

            Scaaaaarrryyyy Stuuuuupid!

          • Walt Kowalski

            He’s not stupid. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. He’s trying to destroy this country.

            Once you understand that….what he does starts making more sense to you.

            Not that you like it…..but you understand it.

        • Satori

          good analysis

          oil/oil price is and always will be a very potent weapon
          and means of control

          Russia can’t afford a big drop in oil prices

          their economy is totally dependent on its oil revenue

          I think Obama’s move is a good one

          he is definitely sending Putin a message

          • gun

            thats about 1/3 of what we use in a day?

            • lastmanstanding

              We use about 10-12 million per day…your close.

          • hammerhead

            Obamas move is only good until you realize that he is depleting our RESERVES to make a point.
            IMHO , Its a bad move if your trying to bully a nation that could wipe the US of the map.
            Point bein , We may need those reserves .

          • Satori

            it wouldn’t surprise me if not one gallon is actually released
            from the strategic reserve

            this is to send a message to Putin

            that the US will hit him where it hurts if necessary

            and don’t forget
            this whole Ukraine thing was PURPOSELY engineered by the west
            with the US leading the way

            it was DELIBERATELY done

            Obama IS playing chess
            despite the numerous assertions to the contrary

            the question is
            can the US control the situation
            will things turn out as planned ???

            • Smokey

              Obama is not playing chess with Putin, he’s standing outside the game room with a Frisbee and a whiffle bat trying to convince the world he’s Bobby Fischer.

            • hammerhead

              SATORI- I agree the US is playin chess with russia.
              BUT , It aint got anything to do with Obama , he is
              just a tool. Have ya ever noticed that every time something happens , he goes on vacation ?
              Obama is not running the show .

              • sixpack

                I heard something earlier today that made me think of Obullshit—

                “If I wanna hear you talk, I’ll shove my arm up your ass, and move your mouth like a sock puppet”.

                I think it was by Samuel L. Jackson.

          • Smokey

            Five million barrels is nothing, less than one day’s requirements for the USA. The effect on world oil prices will be miniscule, and short-term.

          • sixpack

            Obama ain’t got no business sending anybody “a message”, because he himself hasn’t GOT A CLUE.

      14. maudy frickett

        I’m on a role. From what I’ve read on this blog lately, there aren’t many people here who plan on taking advantage of a collapse to take it to the bad guys. What’s the sense of stocking up preps and holing up in a remote bug out location? What are you going to do? Let the bad guys start up the new government the way they want it? That would make all your plans worthless. You’d be starting over in the same position or worse. Come out of your little gopher holes and shoot the shit out of the bad guys. And I’m not talking about waiting for them to come to you. Yeah, you’ll get ’em when they try to take your stuff. Molon Labe or whatever. Bring it to them. That’s the only advantage you’ll have. Surprise. Plan now. Not later. Quit fooling youself. If they come for you. They got you. You lose. If you get shot or killed going after them, you’re a patriot. You helped defeat them. You are patriots, right?

        • Mcdave

          Patriot, yes. Martyr? no.
          Which bad guys are you talking about? Gangs, thugs? Or bad guys with a badge or blue helmet? All are bad guys.
          Keep your head down and powder dry, you will know when the time is right to get in the fight.
          Remember, The enemy of my enemy, is also my enemy. Sooo..

          • Mcdave

            I seem to have a lot of enemies.

            • John

              Better that than to have a lot of enemas.

          • maudy frickett

            McD, A little late to be wondering who the bad guys are.

            • lastmanstanding

              Lots of people are dialed maudy.

              “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

          • Them Guys

            Also a huge difference from a “Just War” as in Justifed and legit, to simply acts of Murder.

            Suppose folks go out shooting and killing cops…Then Later find out those cops were actually only Defending us citizen law abiders FROM Ghetto Rat gangs etc…Now what?

            Suppose the current usa fed govnt Retains all its power and leagality etc After any riots or chaos or crises errupts. And they decide to Prosecute those who Murdered said cops that were doing their job protecting us citizens From Gangbanger types and hoards of militant violent illeagle mexicans?

            And finally what will You answer to the Lord at judgement day if you commit Murders, that you “Thought” was just wacking bad guys or tryants?

            • sixpack

              There’s a good reason behind KNOWING YOUR TARGET and keeping your finger off the trigger until you’re sure you know what you’re aiming at…

        • Hunter

          Ssssh Maudy…

          ..some are merely waiting for enough ‘back-ground noise’ to keep the enemy focused on ‘noisy incidents’.

          ..before they apply themselves to serious “WORK / TASKS”

        • sixpack

          Maudy, Don’t you mean, there aren’t many people on here who are ADVERTIZING taking advantage of a collapse to take it to the bad guys???

          It’s kinda like playing “Go Fish”…you don’t have to tell them what you’ve got until the time comes that they need to know…

      15. aljamo

        Right now I can only afford the bare essentials needed to survive this ongoing downturn. If it get’s any worse I’ll be looking for a ramshackle condemned shack for shelter, that or some deep woods to hide in. No jobs being created, existing jobs moved out of country, no minimum wage hike, business that prefers illegals. No money to spend to help keep the economy afloat. This is beyond insanity.

        • Hunter


          ………This is beyond insanity. –(unquote)–

          Agreed! Welcome to 21st century kosher-economic reality!

      16. truth

        rigs brigs……anyone agree?

      17. braahaahaa

        I am sure sasori is pretty mad too because he doesn’t like to be kept waiting.

        • 1braveheart

          Eppe, I just finished checking out the link you posted. it’s so funny I’m printing a copy of it as I type this.

          • eppe

            1BH; Wanted to say congrats on the non smoking, I heard that is it harder to quit than crack. I have quit probably 25 times, hard row to hoe, if you know what I mean. Just keep it up, life does go on….

      18. eppe

        The Fence Test
        You can’t get any more accurate than this!
        This is straight forward country thinking.. by
        Jeff Foxworthy

        Which side of the fence? If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! If a Republican doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one. If a Democrat doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed. If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat. If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

        If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.

        If a Republican doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. A Democrat demands that those they don’t like be shut down. If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that the rest of us pay for his. If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A Democrat will delete it because he’s “offended”.

        • 1braveheart

          Eppe, your post about Dems and Reps is spot on. Best description I’ve ever read anywhere.

        • wrong

          That’s pretty accurate.

        • Satori

          I’m gonna vote all Republican next election
          because then things will really be different
          (sarcasm off now)

          the only real difference between the two
          is that Dems tend to throw us proles a few more crumbs

          the Republican Party has no problems with welfare
          if it’s welfare for the rich

          the conservative pundit Charles Krauthammer said something on
          the Faux News Network I’ll never forget

          to paraphrase him
          “the Republican Party protects the rich”

          if yer still locked into the right/left
          Republican/Democrat mindset

          God help us

          and I say all of this as one who was a die hard Republican
          for decades
          until I finally woke up

          George Carlin had it right years ago

          • Kevin2


            The difference between the two party’s from my perspective is their general stand on the Second Amendment. One can say that the Democrats are more helpful for the working man but their post FDR “god” Bill Clinton gave us both Free Trade and the demise of Glass Steagall. What the Republicans wanted to do but couldn’t the Democrats did for them without a whimper from the MSM and Organized Labor. If labor has friends like the Democrats who needs enemies?

            One party will ship my job to the 3rd world, let the Financial Institutions “Corzine” the public and disarm me while the other will just ship my job to the 3rd world and let the Financial Institutions “Corzine” the public.

            In the end there lay the difference.

          • Them Guys

            SATORI: The True Real difference between Neocon repubs VS Lib Dems is this: Originally in 1917 era, Lennin and Trotsky debated and argued on Which method was best choice to overtake Russia with communisim.

            Lennin was all for Violent Bloodshed overthrow, like as occured in 1918 russian revolution.

            But Trotsky orig wanted Non violence and no bloodshed, and a longer path to communisim thru State laws and agendas etc to gradualy take over russian govnt etc.

            History shows us Trotsky Lost, although also he had zero problems switching sides and joining Lennins violent bloodshed by killing at least 10 million himself, while also head commander of entire Red Army, bolshevik murder machine of the Soviet.

            TODAYS: Lib Dems are like Lenninist Marxists IE Want a violent coup de tat, and Much bloodshed of whiteys mainly, to culminate in a Fast takeover and full blown soviet communist america.

            BUT; Neocons repubs are like orig Trotskites. Repubs also want full blown communist america…BUT repubs strive for a NON violent non bloodshed take over of it all, even though they know that way takes alot Longer time to acomplish it all. Repubs rather use state laws, fed govnt in Partnerships with wall street corps big business etc.

            As in what GW bush often, daily, promoted. “Private Public Partnerships” for the “New american way” of Buisness being conducted in usa.

            What do you really get when Private corps mix as Partners with fed govnt?…FACISTIC Soviet Kommies.

            so either way, Lib Kommie dems equals faster end to america with communisim…OR…Longer, Slower Path to communist america with…Repub neocons.

            End result is the Same. Although so far DEM’S Are winning with Their method. Dems are likely to keep running the show, and violent bloody communisim america is the most likly scenario at this point it seems.

            And as long as the Tribe that represents just under 2% of usa population totals, continues to have a Vastly Disproportionate huge percentage of tribe members in official positions of Both political parties, dems & repubs…Then we should expect Nothing else to occure.

            And once they Get what they desire, a kommie usa, thats when everybody is going to realize the truth that regardless which “group or side” tribe members take or join…Dems Or repubs…Don’t matter a whit, because as 4000 yrs history proves over and over, once the tribe obtains whatever they are after…Thats when Both “sides” converge Back into one Tribe of Khazar Nation Wreckers.

        • eppe

          Kinda old, but it relates….


          The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent terrorist threats and have therefore raised their security level from “Miffed” to “Peeved.” Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.” The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.

          The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let’s get the Bastards.” They don’t have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.

          The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France’s white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country’s military capability.

          Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”

          The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbor” and “Lose.”

          Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels .

          The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.

          Australia , meanwhile, has raised its security level from “No worries” to “She’ll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we’ll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is canceled.” So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.

          — John Cleese – British writer, actor and tall person.

          • ready down under

            Hey eppe, as an Aussie I’m a bit offended by that – in fact we only have 2 responses to all levels of threat;

            1. No shit?
            2. Piss Off!

            Only kiddin’ – I’ve seen that before and it is really funny.


            • eppe

              Glad to see you can take a joke, of course it was by a Limey, but you know what I mean. Always wanted to visit, got a 2nd cuz down there, if I ever won lotto, would come see ya….

              • ready down under

                We’ll welcome you – but be warned, you may not wanna leave 🙂


                • eppe

                  AMEN bro, probably any place other than the USA, could be better…
                  Makes one wonder…

                  • eppe

                    Must see video–one of the best yet–it will make you smile for a long time!

                    Bear Counting in Canada This is wonderful and the audio is hilarious! (The park is named after the Algonquin Indians.)

                    This clip is great for animal lovers and young children — Momma Bear and her three very young cubs in the wild of northern Ontario, Canada. Humane wildlife experts taking a winter bear census right in the hibernation dens.

                    You’ll love this, besides the cute precious 6 week old baby bears (eyes still closed), the guy (Rick Mercer), has some of the funniest lines.

                    This is a special video of retagging a mommy bear.


      19. DollarstoDonuts

        On Fox News this afternoon, within the last couple hours, they featured a story that it “costs abt. 10 cents to produce a nickel and 2 cents to produce a penny, so stop hoarding them!”

        Sorry I was unsuccessful in locating a link to the story.

        • nopitypartyhere

          i have rolls, and rolls and rolls of nickels.

        • sixpack

          DtD, all of the nickels and pennies I have are “prefab”, I didn’t have to pay the manufacturing overhead costs…LOL.

      20. candle in the wind

        Yea, Yea, Yea. Another good article that is both right and wrong. These points, positions, and arguments if compiled could become a thesaurus. Just a different way to say the same thing. Why do I Prep? Three reasons. 1. I believe like you do (most of you anyway), that the economy and really our culture is eroding faster and faster and is not going to get better, period. 2. The government including the military is preparing for a collapse or disaster of some significant size. 3. I’ve always had that “boy scout” type be prepared mentality.
        This interconnectivity world wide with trade, dollars, and business of every kind is actually a double edged sword. It causes wars when a smaller player gets out of line and it prevents wars between the bigger players as long as they are players meaning they have some chips or worth. The US worth while declining is still huge. This is why the economy by itself will not collapse in our life time. Even a depression as bad as that is, is not a WROL economic collapse. Our dollar will never become worthless, but it will continue to be worth less.
        I am beginning to believe that prepping should be thought of in three phases. 1. Get prepared and build your preps to some level of confidence. 2. Have a long term maintenance plan meaning the rest of your active life. 3. Have a plan for passing on your preps to those you care for (and that you hope will maintain them).
        Lastly if there is a super volcano, or large meteor impact, or nuclear exchange, then it has been fun, but in the words of the Rolling Stones “It’s all over now”.

      21. watching and waiting

        And they have many people believing that.

        Several years ago, North Koreans went to bed using one currency and the next day got up to a new currency and most,if not all of their savings and money in checking were worthless.

        Hmmmmm. Wonder if that was to happened here?

        It could…..

      22. posseecom

        It’s time to panic once again!!
        The dollar going to collapse someday me..I’m not sure when but I am sure it will someday…
        Convert your useless dollars into gold or silver certificates and then mail those p.m’ s ,that you don’t hold, to your mortgage holder,electric and gas providers,insurance company,cable provider,local grocer and liquor store…all will be well.

        Are you worried about another market crash like 2008?

        This is a one time offer folks..hurry before it’s too late.

        If you order within the next 72 hours we’ll send you a free 1 gram certified silver coin worth over 600 dollars to start your own personal protection against the oncoming collapse.

      23. Sierra Dave

        I have been thinking about this for some time. We should go to a metals based currency. Use Copper, Nickel, Silver, Gold, etc. In various sizes.

        Modern based registers can quickly scan each coin for weight, acoustics, and electric conductivity to detect counterfeits.

        Between a Dime, Quarter, Half Dollar, and Dollar sized coin of various metals. You can buy a meal at a fast food store and get change.

        The good news is this. Your money will rarely lose value EVER!

        • sixpack

          You’d need a wheelbarrow to carry your check home from the bank…but you wouldn’t need to lift weights.

          • Sierra Dave

            Are you a Billionaire?

            Most people would probably take home 20 Silver ounces a week. Maybe a Gold Half Dollar and change..

            You could still use paper tied to certain metal sizes. They did this in the past with Gold and SIlver certificates.

            • sixpack

              We were talking about nickels and pennies, SD, but thanks for jumping in there…

      24. Joe

        How would this affect the price of gold when all happens?

      25. n.o. ;0p

        forget about the worthless fiat cash $$$

        forget about the gold and silver pm’s bullion

        you want …

        water – 3 months min

        food – 3 months min

        meds / vitamins + minerals – 3 months min

        gun – what fits you comfortably , easy to access / use .

        ammo – 1000+ rounds


        a lil’ “faith-n-hope” in yourself .

        * then get some pm’s for when the dollar dies .


        • Kevin2

          After those three months the people with gold will buy more supplies.

          You need both.

      26. HotPrepper

        A well prepared prepper should definitely have at least silver or gold in it. This will be the currency of the future

        • eppe

          Nice site, we need to be well rounded in all directions, if you know what I mean…

      27. jerrytbg

        ~~~~frothing at the mouth~~~~

        IT IS ALL KOBUKI THATHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

      28. n.o. ;0p

        food for thought

        silent self protection .

        just got myself a very nice stainless steel 3 foot katana blade for $150. , a very solid no frills killing sword .

        i call it my “lil’ piggy sticker” (you get what you paid for , so invest more than $70. in a good blade .)

        it completes my up close and silent two handed killing system package with my $60. war-axe or my back up $45. framing hammer or 19 inch bowie blade in one hand and new katana sword in the other .

        ;0) it’s good to have options .

        think about it … in a shtf event do you really want to expose yourself , your family , your blacked-out home water food and supplies , advertise your location when fighting off a looter intruder(s) at 3am in the dark by blasting away with a 12 gauge deafening blinding yourself .

        not very practical .

        when you can just as a night dark shadow silently quickly ‘stickem’ with your 3 foot sword in the guts and ‘whack em’ in the head crushing their skulls with your war-axe .

        it’s good to have options . ;0p


        • Warchild Dammit

          Without at least basic kendo/kenjutsu or other type of training/practice good chance you will just open yourself up in heated battle.I guess a 150 katana(?)not too dangerous,any blade under a grand not say a gift is not too long lasting if used in battle.You want silence crossbow/bow/ good and keep distance,really up close a karambit even in newbie hand a nasty little item,any one with a 3′ shiny pig sticker gets the round noise or not.

          • Anonymous

            sigh …

            why do i even bother .


          • Anonymous

            so i need to spend $$$ 5000. to learn how to stab a man and hit him over the head ???

            lol ;0P

            yeah okay .

          • Facebook Page

            Nino is not that bright.

        • Smokey

          You’re not planning on bringing that shit to a gunfight, are you?

      29. KY Mom

        Obamacare’s secret mandate exemption

        “HHS quietly repeals the indivual purchase rule for two more years.”

        Wall Street Journal
        Posted on Drudge Report

      30. maudy frickett

        When it all collapses, you won’t be able to “fix it”, because you don’t know where the “bad guys” live. Or do you? Correct that short coming in your plans now.

      31. eppe

        Upon arriving home, a husband was met at the door by his sobbing wife. Tearfully, she explained, “It’s the druggist. He insulted me terribly this morning on the phone. I had to call multiple times before he would even answer the phone.”

        Immediately, the husband drove downtown to confront the druggist and demand an apology.

        Before he could say more than a word or two, the druggist told him,

        “Now, just a minute, listen to my side of it. This morning, the alarm failed to go off, so I was late getting up. I went without breakfast and hurried out to the car, just to realize that I’d locked the house with both house and car keys inside and had to break a window to get my keys.

        “Then, driving a little too fast, I got a speeding ticket. Later, when I was about three blocks from the store, I had a flat tire.”

        “When I finally got to the store, a bunch of people were waiting for me to open up. I got the store opened and started waiting on these people. All the time, the darn phone was ringing off the hook.” He continued, “Then, I had to break a roll of nickels against the cash register drawer to make change, and they spilled all over the floor. I had to get down on my hands and knees to pick up the nickels, and the phone was still ringing. When I came up I cracked my head on the open cash drawer, which made me stagger back against a showcase with a bunch of perfume bottles on it. Half of them hit the floor and broke.”

        “Meanwhile, the phone is still ringing with no let up, and I finally got back to answer it. It was your wife. She wanted to know how to use a rectal thermometer.

        And believe me mister, as God is my witness, all I did was tell her.”

        • durango kidd


          “The “solution” Durango offers is to allow the fed to continue monetizing U.S. debt and then “audit them”, and then hang them. This is a very naive way of thinking.”

          RESPONSE: What is so naïve about auditing the FED and making it transparent while answering to the people? Are you suggesting that demanding good government from our employees is naïve and should be ignored?

          “First, you may not be familiar with the issue of the Taper, but the Fed is ending its purchases of U.S. bonds, leaving only the IMF and the American taxpayer as the lenders of last resort.”

          RESPONSE: WRONG!!! The FED is ending the Taper because it has purchased most of the toxic securities from the Member banks and because Investors are fleeing the risk of Emerging Markets to US Equities and bonds. These new dollars allow the FED to taper without disrupting the markets and move back toward “normalcy”.

          While the US taxpayer is always on the hook for US Government debt, the IMF was created to provide capital to emerging markets. The USA is a founding member of the IMF it has never used the capital produced (SDR’s) by the basket of currencies; on the contrary, American dollars have always provided cash to the loan pool for developing nations, and for Europe during the CRASH of 2008/2009. The USA has never needed a loan from the IMF.

          The reason the FED has never needed a loan from the IMF is because the FED is the perfect Ponzi scheme and the Gb’s have the ability to print and loan all of OUR money they want. IE during the Crisis the FED loaned $16 trillion USD to multinationals, prime dealers, and EUROPE to solve its liquidity crisis.

          “Second, how exactly do you plan to make an audit of the Fed happen, considering a full audit has never occurred in the central bank’s 100 year history? It’s all well and good to wail on about “auditing the fed”, it is another thing to offer a legitimate step by step plan for making it happen. No top down solution has ever worked in stopping the Fed. You do not ask a corrupt government controlled by bankers to audit said bankers. The idea is absurd.”

          RESPONSE: Politics IS the responsibility of free man and women. If Americans will not become activists in their own best interests and demand political changes from the bottom up, then they deserve the government they get.

          Take control of Congress. 100 million American gun owners, as a block could control EVERY election since only 129 million votes were cast in 2010, including the dead in Chicago and those who voted twice.

          Once I educate you about finance and economics, should should run for office. 🙂

          “Third, the SDR IS INDEED the alternative to the dollar; a fact which you continue to ignore. ALL fiat currencies are NWO currencies and your faith in the dollar is a bit misplaced.”

          RESPONSE: The IMF SDR is the quintessential fiat currency as it is comprised of funds from its member nations to provide a loan capital pool for emerging nations. IE venture capital.

          The IMF would LIKE it to be a replacement for the dollar; as would Russia and our historical enemies. And someday it might be an alternative to the dollar, but there are less than $300 billion USD worth of SDR’s in existence; so I would bet on the Yuan first, because while every country likes to spend (OPM) particularly their own taxpayers funds, the G-20 is not likely to fund $500 trillion USD worth of SDR’s backed by their currency and let the likes of Lagarde and other bureaucrats spend it.

          “Please explain, if the dollar is irreplaceable, then why is the IMF moving to replace it as the world reserve with the SDR?”

          Thats real simple. Everyone wants what the USA has: THE WRC and the power and wealth that goes with it. The PTB jostle for power and influence between themselves. There is no honor among thieves and the GB’s are the greediest bastards in the world. Their lust for power is insatiable. They want the control that the USA has. It’s called “dollar envy”.

          Replacement will not happen without nuclear war. 🙁

      32. Be informed

        There has never been any currency that does not have a weak spot. There are countless scenarios that are not that severe that could collapse the U.S. dollar. Money is simple. It is what is used to exchange for something that someone needs. There are people in this country and other countries that live totally on trade off something they have to someone that needs it and then they get what they need. Call it barter, whatever, there are people that just don’t deal with any type of currency.

        If enough people say, no more dollar, it means no more dollar. Money is really nothing but air backed up by the promise of people that it has worth.

      33. eppe

        Someone said I should stick to jokes, and not comment on others that comment or post articles…
        I do wonder where they think some should be sensored for what they think and say, but I digress, it seems like I get more thumbs up for jokes, but this is a tuff crowd here, if you do not step on others toes…
        I only want to make people smile, and laugh, and live life for what it’s worth, we all have been thru some tough times, and I would like to apoligize for things I have said or posted, may we ALL live in harmony, and get along, wish the world would do the same, might be wishful ideas, but what the hell…
        The Washington Post’s Mensa Invitational once again invited readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition.
        Here are the winners:
        1. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject financially impotent for an indefinite period of time.

        2. Ignoranus: A person who’s both stupid and an asshole.

        3. Intaxicaton: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with.

        4. Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly.

        5. Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

        6. Foreploy: Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of getting laid

        7. Giraffiti: Vandalism spray-painted very, very high.

        8. Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn’t get it.

        9. Inoculatte: To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

        10. Osteopornosis: A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit)

        11. Karmageddon: It’s like, when everybody is sending off all these really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it’s like, a serious bummer.

        12. Decafalon (n):The grueling event of getting through the day consuming only things that are good for you.

        13. Glibido: All talk and no action.

        14. Dopeler Effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly.

        15. Arachnoleptic Fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you’ve accidentally walked through a spider web.

        16. Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

        17. Caterpallor (n.): The color you turn after finding half a worm in the fruit you’re eating.

        The WashingtonPost has also published the winning submissions to its yearly contest, in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words.

        And the winners are:

        1. Coffee, n. The person upon whom one coughs.

        2. Flabbergasted, adj. Appalled by discovering how much weight one has gained.

        3. Abdicate, v. To give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.

        4. Esplanade, v. To attempt an explanation while drunk.

        5. Willy-nilly, adj. Impotent.

        6. Negligent, adj. Absent mindedly answering the door when wearing only a nightgown.

        7. Lymph, v. To walk with a lisp.

        8. Gargoyle, n. Olive-flavored mouthwash.

        9. Flatulence, n. Emergency vehicle that picks up someone who has been run over by a steamroller.

        10. Balderdash, n. A rapidly receding hairline.

        11. Testicle, n. A humorous question on an exam.

        12. Rectitude, n. The formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists.

        13. Pokemon, n. A Rastafarian proctologist.

        14. Oyster, n. A person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddishisms.

        15. Frisbeetarianism, n. The belief that, after death, the soul flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there.

        16. Circumvent, n.An opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by Jewish men.

        I hope I made someone smile….

        • buttcrackofdoom

          you’re an asset to the site, eppe…punintended!…hey, i think i just added a couple to yer list!

      34. eppe

        Last one for the noght…

        Subject: NAG! NAG! NAG!

        An attorney arrived home late, after a very tough day trying to get a stay of execution for his client.

        His last minute plea for clemency to the governor had failed and he was feeling worn out and depressed.

        As soon as he walked through the door at home, his wife started on him about, ‘What time of night to be getting home is this? Where
        Have you been? Dinner is cold and I’m not reheating it’. And on and on and on it went.

        Too shattered to play his usual role in this familiar ritual, he poured himself a shot of whiskey and headed off for a long hot soak
        in the bathtub, pursued by the predictable sarcastic remarks as he dragged himself up the stairs.

        While he was in the bath, the phone rang. The wife answered and was told that her husband’s client, James Wright, had been granted a
        stay of execution after all. Wright would not be hanged tonight.

        Finally realizing what a terrible day he must have had, she decided to go up stairs and give him the good news.

        As she opened the bathroom door, she was greeted by the sight of her husband, bent over naked, drying his legs and feet.

        ‘They’re not hanging Wright tonight,’ she said.

        He whirled around and screamed, ‘FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WOMAN, DON’T YOU EVER STOP?!’

      35. Anonymous

        DK, you have my vote. You know what is real.

      36. Cornholio

        US Dollar is just TP for my bunghole….

      37. 0311

        Mac- busy moderating every single post these days and censoring?

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