If there’s one thing we should have learned about all of our theories of the universe and our solar system, it’s that we really don’t know anything.
Scientists can theorize about how events in our universe have unfolded in the past, or how they may or may not unfold in the future, but in the end, it’s all just theoretical. We may have a good idea of how some things work, but understanding the complete picture is a mystery and will likely remain one for the entire existence of the human race.
Just when we thought we had the sun all figured out, the universe threw us for another loop. In August of 2010 an unprecedented, massive eruption was detected on the sun. It was so large and out of the ordinary that NASA scientists are now having to rework their theories on how the sun functions and what the implications of such an eruption may mean:
On August 1, 2010, an entire hemisphere of the sun erupted. Filaments of magnetism snapped and exploded, shock waves raced across the stellar surface, billion-ton clouds of hot gas billowed into space. Astronomers knew they had witnessed something big.
It was so big, it may have shattered old ideas about solar activity.
“The August 1st event really opened our eyes,” says Karel Schrijver of Lockheed Martin’s Solar and Astrophysics Lab in Palo Alto, CA. “We see that solar storms can be global events, playing out on scales we scarcely imagined before.”
Video of massive eruption:
An extreme ultraviolet movie of the August 1st global eruption. Different colors represent different plasma temperatures in the range 1.0 to 2.2 million K. Credit: Solar Dynamics Observatory:
Various theories on how this could happen have been put forth, even prior to the eruption, with on of them now being looked into more seriously, suggesting the sun actually has an iron core:
The astrophysics establishment has long shunned the idea of the sun having any such iron core. But this momentous event is consistent with the theory that there is a tiny dense neutron core the size of a city powered by neutron repulsion. Professor Manuel believes there is a super-conducting iron-rich shell the size of a moon or small planet surrounding the neutron core.
This monumental solar eruption may finally challenge the accepted theories about how the key driver of Earth’s climate actually works. Manuel sagely observes, “Although NASA seems to be catching up, after decades of ‘group-think’ it will be very difficult for NASA scientists to comprehend the Sun.”
Indeed, this latest evidence is unsettling not just for accepted ideas about how our Sun works but it also impacts assumptions of how the Sun effects Earth’s climate. Oliver insists “ Science is a continuous process of ‘truthing’ without ever claiming that you have the ‘whole truth.’”
Source: Astronomy and Space – Suite 101
Another interesting theory of how the sun works revolves around the Electric Universe (click here for 60 minute documentary) and suggests that the entire universe is basically a vast electronic array. In electric universe theory, there is a belief that the sun is actually powered by an external source, invisible to our modern day detection devices. One key takeaway for those interested in this and other potential theories of the sun is that our current line of thinking doesn’t answer the question of how our sun actually works. As children, we learned that the sun is basically a big ball of nuclear energy – but this theory leaves many questions unanswered and any astronomer worth his degree will be the first to admit that modern theories are full of holes that simply can’t be explained with current physics.
The point is that scientists who suggest they know exactly how our sun, solar system and universe work aren’t being totally honest with the public. This is why we read with great interest a recent piece penned by NASA scientists titled 2012: Beginning of the End or Why the World Won’t End? in which NASA attempts to discredit any thinking of ex-planetary scenarios that may lead to doomsday-like events on earth. Here are NASA’s theories on some of the more popular doomsday event scenarios being discussed today:
Question (Q): Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.
Answer (A): Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.
As scientists, shouldn’t NASA at least leave a little margin for error? To suggest that nothing bad can happen is a bit dishonest – even NASA knows that there are always possibilities. The Intel Hub recently put together an article about Comet Elenin, in which they point out that in 2003 a comet larger than the size of Jupiter swung around our sun. NASA didn’t tell anyone it was coming, and professor Nassim Haramein indicated that this event could easily have been a solar-system game changer, as the sheer size of it could have thrust Mercury into the sun and completely displaced the Earth’s orbit around the sun. According to Mr. Haramein, we got lucky.
Yes, our planet has gotten along just fine for the past 4 billion years, but we need look only at the dinosaurs and the 99% of other species on Earth that have gone extinct since its creation about how ‘fine’ things really are.
Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?
A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.
“Obviously, it does not exist.”
As a matter of historical record, it’s important to point out that scientists detected Uranus, Neptune and Pluto through gravitational effects on other planets decades before the planets themselves were discovered. Curiously, there is a gravitational effect on Pluto that suggests another large object beyond this dwarf planet has yet to be discovered. This is scientific fact, not conjecture. Call it Niburu, call it Planet X (10), call it what you will, but science suggests that it’s out there.
In the movie Armageddon, Billy Bob Thornton’s character, when responding to a question about why NASA didn’t detect the incoming asteroid, responded by saying, “Well, our object collision budget’s about a million dollars a year. That allows us to track about three percent of the sky, and begging your pardon sir, but it’s a big-ass sky.”
The take away is that perhaps this purported tenth planet will not be showing up in 2012, and if it were to show up at some point in the future it may not destroy earth or its population, but to suggest as a matter of record that it doesn’t exist is simply short-sighted and typical of tunnel vision science.
Q: What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth’s crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?
A: A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn’t cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.
We have been taught a traditional view of geology and earth changes that suggests everything moves at a snail’s pace. But new developments in sun theory referenced above show that not everything is as it seems or as we have been taught. Reports indicate that the recent Japanese earthquake has shifted Japan by 8 feet and actually had a global effect of shortening our 24 hour day by 1.8 microseconds. While small, this further supplements the evidence that global earth changes can happen rapidly and on a massive scale.
In the Horizon Project documentary (watch in full here), scientists present a host of theories and evidence, including geological and from human history, that suggests continental shifts can happen extremely rapidly (as in days or weeks) and violently. There are also historical records from various civilizations at around the same time that indicate a large solar body passed earth in the past, literally slowing down the earth’s rotation from the gravitational effects, which led to our modern 365-day calendar. Prior to this event, it is theorized that our years were actually 360 days. Whatever passed earth had such a large gravitational pull to it that it may have actually “stopped time.”
With regards to a magnetic reversal not happening any time in the next few millennia, we need only direct our readers to the recent shutdown of runways at Atlanta airport. At one point, the runway pointed due north. Atlanta had to make modifications because it is now 10 degrees off. A magnetic pole shift in action –during our lifetimes.
We all know about the frozen mammoth found in Russia with food still in its belly. But not many people know about the tropical forests lying frozen under Antarctica. These lush jungles, like the mammoth, are believed to have frozen rapidly – within a matter of days – suggesting again that rapid changes on earth can occur. Some have even suggested that the lost city of Atlantis may actually have existed on the Antarctic content. We may never really know (or perhaps some of us already do), but if these lush jungles really do exist, it indicates that changes can come so quickly that civilizations may not even have time to respond and evacuate. They never saw it coming.
Q: How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?
A: For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.
Q: Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?
A: Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.
Credibility, it seems, is in the eye of the beholder. While 2012 itself may not be considered a credible date for any potential doomsday scenario, there are actually several ancient calendars, including the Mayans, that point to a significant occurrence in this year. Whether we are talking about physical earth changes, or more of a transcendental transformation with respect to spirituality remains to be seen. One important consideration is that the Mayans, Sumarians, Egyptians and other civilization had extremely advanced knowledge of the solar system and timing mechanisms. How they acquired this information and capability remains a mystery. But what NASA scientists today may claim is fraud, was science to ancient civilizations. To them, their calendars, theories and advances were credible – their civilizations revolved around them.
We understand that NASA ‘predicts’ that the next solar maximum will be “average” and “no different than previous cycle in history,” we can’t help but point out that in history we have evidence for massive solar eruptions, that if they happened today, could alter our entire way of life.
In fact, while Nibiru, asteroids, magnetic pole shift, and geographic pole shift may be doomsday outliers, it is our staunch belief that damage caused by a Coronal Mass Ejection / Solar Flare is the single biggest and most serious natural threat facing modern day humans. It can happen at anytime, and without warning, wrecking havoc on our entire electric power grid. Denying that such a possibility exists, considering that individuals like Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee and EMPact President Peter Vincent Pry understand how great and imminent a threat we face from EMP, is simply irresponsible.
NASA scientists operate within their own little bubble, much like global warming scientists. Much of the research they undertake is based on funding and grants, and to get the money scientists have to focus on generally accepted scientific theory. That means the fringe scientists out there get no funding, are not considered credible, and are usually looked down upon for their research. This has occurred throughout history, but time and again we have seen much of this fringe research become truth and generally accepted theory.
Will 2012 be the end of human civilization? Based on historical earth evidence and the ever-changing universe we can’t discount the possibility. It’s not exactly probable based on statistics, but then again there are many threats, known and unknown, that could lead to large-scale disasters.
Will the world end in 2012? Highly unlikely.
Will the human race end in 2012? More likey, but not likely.
Will the banksters survive 2012? Let’s hope not.
Can you do anything about any of the above?
So true. At best you can put your hear between your legs and kiss your ass good bye.
I do not dismiss anything, it can happen by nature or man-made, no one knows. But we need to know if there is anything that can be done at all.
You need to watch the movie “KNOWING” which was released in 2009. It talks about all the terrorist events and the 9-11 which were predicted 50 years prior to the last day of the end of the world.
But in the movie the end of the world was predicted to be Oct. 19, not Oct. 21 as recently predicted by Harold Camping.
The movie shows the end of the world was caused by a massive solar flare.
It can happen by natural or man-made causes ( poke a hole in the atmosphere, then there is no shielding left, and anything can happen from the sun.)
In the end the two little kids told their father he was not chosen to go to a special place.
And the father went back to face the chaos, and then the dooms day happened; the father and so did the rest of the world (sheeple).
You know what I meant, the father and the rest of the world died.
But I hope and pray this will never happen!!!!
Jane, it is NOT NICE TO SPOIL MOVIES!!! Please write SPOILERS!!!!! and put some space below that BEOFRE you write what happens in a movie, it is only common courtesy.
It is also bad internet from to keep responing on your own posts. Uusally people frown upon double and triple post.
Loosen your jock strap a bit, Movie Buff. We’ve bigger issues to concern ourselves with, ya think?
You must have a low IQ and can’t connect the picture.
1. What does “the end of the world” mean to you.” Stupid??? Engage your brain before you type.
2. This posting and others are in response to liberal lies and insults to conservatives, and in response to your dirty liberal insulting tactics to discredit me.
3. It’s not about the movie, Im not a movie critic.
Mac’s website is about awareness and preparedness’. Im just letting people know what they may not be aware of, so they can possible save their own lives. Im just contributing my tips just like anyone else does. What do you have to contribute besides your insults? Don’t be such a jerk, Movie Buff.
I did not get personal with you, I was only advising you what is polite, but it seems you are too emotional to handle suggestions like that.
Calling me stupid is out of line, but if that is the way you want to play, you got it. I will say it AGAIN…
DONT RUIN MOVIES YOU STUPID [email protected]# AND STOP TRIPLE POSTING YOU MORON. Rude and nasty is easy Jane, but you know that, dont you? you loser.
It is rude to ruin movie plots, period.
If Mac allows you and your people with the filthy mouths to run wild, then they will scare and offense Mac’s audience and prevent the people from voicing their concerns. I know what your dirty intent is.
You are the one who started by attacking me, and then at the same time you try to play like you are innocent and provoke a fight. I and the rest of the world get used to this kind of tactic.
I only responded to BJ, Duango Kidd, Odd Questioner, Anonymous ‘s and yours postings which were sent in a personal manner to me (read my postings and see for yourself, stupid.)……. I’ve noticed your people make a lot of postings, 24/7 and yet YOU DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM.
You’ve made a lot of stupid accusations, and it takes an explaination to prove the points. I had not even responded even to your dumbass statements yet. You still do not get it. It’s not about the movie’s excitement, the title and its small description said it all…. Don’t watch the movie, stupid.
You still think the end of the world is a happy day for sheeple??? I was trying to prove the point that the movie was connected to this ARTICLE and all its pure POPAGANDA.
a) The little kids were the chosen ones to tell their father that he was not of the chosen ones to be saved, as the kids said.
b) And the movie is correlated to prediction of Harold and the people here selling us propaganda, that the sun will cause the end of the world.
GET IT, THINK BEFORE YOU ENGAGE YOUR FILTHY MOUTH.
America and the world have enough of your and other people like you dictator’s way of thinking and action. You can’t tell Mac’s audience what to say, take your sick mind somewhere else.
With your sick mind, you still think the end of the world where all the sheeple died is an exciting movie for you. To me and others, this only serves as a serious warning. These days who have the technology to control people, recourses and the world. As you can see in the past, I only made one posting, but I received many responses from Durango Kidd, BJ, Odd Questioners, etc…. Don’t have the right to respond to each of them, with some containning personal attacks.
a) Some people used me to sell their agenda, and they had you come out to complain that I made “double or triple postings.”
b) In fact, I have not responded all of their attacks. Also I’ve repeatedly requested PSEUDO-CONSERVATIVES/SHILLS/TROLLS, NOT TO SEND THEIR POSTINGS TO ME, BUT THEY KEEP SENDING LIKE YOU HAVE.
Your tactic is old and dirty, as the mainstream media uses it even today. You guys are trying so hard and are using many dirty tactics to shut people up.
a) Because you’re stupid and can’t argue and want to burry the truth, corruption and the real culprits (not your rivals).
b) I have to realize you guys are very good at propaganda and tricking people into buying into your agenda.
My original posting is for SHEEPLE and other leaders with brains, knowledge of current and past events and who understand the massive amount of propaganda out there, and to be able to check what out there and is really going on.
MOVIE BUFF, stop attacking me and sending your filthy agenda.
Stop attacking people while trying to look innocent the entire time.
Jane, I did not get persoanl. you need to relax. And you need understand how rude it is to ruin the polts of movies and/or book… and the same goes for punch lines in jokes or stories… This applies pre-SHTF…AND POST-SHTF.
DONT GET PERSONAL, and quit drawing attention to yourself with your triple postings and embarrassing comments and maybe you wont have a list of pople you think are out to get you. You are paranoid.
Movie Butt, … You said don’t get personal, but at the same time you’re constantly calling me names and demanding ppl/me not to post. You think so very low of people, but at the same time you:
– read their comments and go into a rage, and you used filthy language.
– demanding me not to exercise my “freedom of Speech” to defend myself from your attacks.
– demanding that I must not to respond to your filthy insults
– stop putting words in my mouth. I only gave you a list of left-wingers who sent postings to me, therefore I must respond to their liberal agenda.
– YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS PARANOID, BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT MY POSTINGS ARE GOING TO CAUSE YOU DAMGAGE. Because you think that my postings are going to cause you damage.
Otherwise why are you so worried?? And constantly responding to my postings and with personal attacks which you say are harmless to you???? Are you that sick, and if not then why do you respond the way you do?
You said “quit drawing attention to yourself”. Then stop sending endless postings directly to me (in my name) although I’ve repeatedly requested you not to send me anything.
Hey stupid, I said it again don’t watch the damn movie, and it’s not about promoting a movie, I was just trying to prove my point.
Well, you still think the end of the world is a happy day for sheeple, and especially for you??? I was trying to prove the point that the movie was connected to this ARTICLE, and selling the sheeple its POPAGANDA (it’s a natural disaster, not man-made.)
And there is no way these statements could possibly ruin the movie you sicko:
a) The little kids were chosen to tell their father that he was not one of the chosen ones to be saved, as the kids said.
b) And the movie is correlated to prediction of Harold and the people here selling us propaganda, that the sun will cause the end of the world.
Sorry, there are a few who disagree and get angry with me about my comments over saving America. My concerns are for the greater number of people in this country who can benefit from my work.
I appreciate the founding fathers who have fought and gave so much for this country and to make what it is now.
Voicing my concerns is just a little thing to remind my leaders to get back on track and remember many lives are depending on them.
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So many disasters lately and many people are affected, and no one is talking about their losses and the suffering they are going through.
I and many other people could care less about KATE MIDDLETON and HER SISTER – Her sister’s dating to a spoiled rotten rich man, and their fashions which continue to fill the main webpages. There is nothing special about a woman with her trashy ten (10) years of living with her boyfriend, Prince William before marriage which is considered UNACCEPTABLE TO MOST. They were partying in different night clubs and attending parties, on their yachts. Kate & William were travelling and vacationing in Africa and around the globe, at someone else’s expense.
Ya know, you should try to be a little more civilized. I read the arguments from the beginning, and I’m sorry but I fully think that Jane was correct in all of her statements. You are most definitely wrong. It sounded as though you may not have understood what she said to you.
Look at the right column, there are 5 postings by Odd Questioner. I NEVER POST THAT MANY AT ONE TIME. Two is the most, because I do not to bury another good posting.
I personally DON’T CARE how many Odd Questioners or liberals post at a time.
But one of the Left wing extremist who has been attempting to sabotage me, has been accusing me of making multiple postings and then ordering me not to post at all. Looks like Liberals have double standards, and are here to target conservatives any non-liberal poster.
Here is the copy what I saw in the right column that I prefer to:
· Comment by Odd Questioner: “Depends on a lot of factors. Personally, I’d want to avoid any sort of fight unless it is to defend self, family, or property. With the…”
· Comment by Odd Questioner: “Like I said earlier… unless the mother stands an obvious chance of dying, I doubt that any post-TEOTWAWKI doctor is going to waste…”
· Comment by Odd Questioner: “Honestly, it doesn’t have to go all Thunderdome to get bad, as you’ve aptly pointed out. PS: $800 million doesn’t buy much…”
· Comment by Odd Questioner: “Ah, yes… but you forget: Technology requires infrastructure, to wit: * I doubt that you can fashion a CPU from twigs and moss (for…”
· Comment by Odd Questioner: “@JJ: As gratifying as such a sign may be, it would also advertise 24/7 that you have things other people would really need. Remember –…”
You crack me Jane!!!!! Got to pay the doctor….. Avflac! How am I doing? You’ve led a sheltered life. In two days I’d have you house trained.
Really, ruining a movie is your major worry? I have doubts that many people worry about such things on here. Yes it’s not overly polite to do so but really, we’re adults, get over it. Jane was not attacking you until you went after her, so again, get over yourself.
We are prepping and getting ready for the planet changes already underway, and will get very interesting.
This is NOT man made global warming, peak oil or bigfoot.
every 3600 years an event happens, this time We get to see it.
The object ELEnin is currently 1.8AU from us and closing fast. Because she is believed to be a Brown Dwarf Star with tremendous mass, her presence in our inner solar system will wreak havoc.
The red-letter date for ecliptic alignment is September 26th where she will be directly between us & the Sun at a distance of .58AU and then on her way back out on November 23rd where the Earth will be directly between her & our Sun.
It would make sense for our Sun to be “acting up” with the approach of a dense, dwarf star. Seems this article is pointing to the sun’s recent phenomenom as the Cause, when it might just be the Effect of ELE’s presence.
The worst case scenario in late September would be for ELEnin to try and wrestle polarity control of our Earth in which case our North pole would be repelled away from the sun 90* putting the Northern Hemisphere into 3 days of darkness, and the Southern Hemisphere with 3 days of light. The oceans would endure a great “sloshing” as the Earth is tipped over on its side, and then tipped back when ELE clears and the Sun regains polarity control.
This is why you might have heard that all coasts are unsafe…
There’s plenty of credible evidence out there…You just have to sift the wheat from the Chaff as you plow through it all.
Per James M. McCanney, M.S. Physics – Official Home Page
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com (also http://www.jmccsci.com )
comet elenin is a non issue and Not the brown dwarf star.
Dr McCanney reports this comet is too small to effect us and it is being used by the CorpGov as a cover story to send us down a rabbit hole and away from the actual truth.
nasa is part of the CorpGov and as another comment from “BJ” said, NASA = Never A Straight Answer.
Haha my birthday is September 26th, my dad did say I was a devil of a child. Maybe he was onto something… 😉
Sorry Joerocker. Can’t get behind James McCanney. Guy is way too “angry” and emotional when discussing topics he either doesn’t agree with or has an agenda against.
He hasn’t proffered any proof regarding the size of ELEnin and he still refers to it as a comet (which it certainly is not). He’s made up his mind, but unlike the dozens of astronomers who post all sorts of credible evidence, the one radio show of his I listened to was just him ranting, listening to the sound of his own voice…
Funny, as a Dr of Science he seems to take an important issue on Faith.. Here’s an excerpt from the cover of his recent book: “Through new insights based on mathematical proofs, we can now determine that life, similar to that on Earth, is abundant in the universe.”
Really? Mathematical proofs? Wouldn’t you mean Mathematical postulations or theories? A mathematical proof (such as A2 + B2 = C2) has nothing to do with proving human life existing elsewhere on the universe…He has an agenda (life exists on other planets) and tries to back into it using mathematics to support his position, and then pawns it off as “proof.” Seems he’s done the same thing regarding the make-up of object ELEnin.
You are free to follow the teachings of men like him, but you might want to expand your investigative effort just a tad, as there is MUCH more compelling evidence out there in support of our Sun’s binary sister heading our way…Guess we’ll all find out for sure in a few months. Just make a mental note of Sept. 26th’ish…
July 7th as well….that’s when, if some are correct in their calculations, Elenin will do to Saturn what it will do to us on Sept 26th
DAD: Thanks for the 9/26th date. I would think that we would know for sure before then, what size it really is.
As for other intelligent life existing in the Universe that is a statiscal certainty.
The Drake Equation allows anyone to estimate the number of technically advanced civilizations there might be using their own estimates.
The Jerusalem UFO and the UFO’s over China and other countries, like Mexico, and crop circles, PROVE the existence of other intelligent life and advanced civilizations as WE do not have the technology to manifest that phenomena.
SHTF Times has a couple of articles on those subjects.
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“”Curiously, there is a gravitational effect on Pluto that suggests another large object beyond this dwarf planet has yet to be discovered.
This is scientific fact, not conjecture.
Call it Niburu, call it Planet X (10), call it what you will, but science suggests that it’s out there.””
Would you mind sharing with us your source for this “fact”.
Dont misunderstand me, I am a believer in Planet X, because it makes more sense than a lot of other things. I was a Zecharia Sitchin fan and thought it was sad that he was brushed off by many many people. All he did was transcribe existing texts, as best he could, and he shared that info with the world.
Zecharia died back in October 2010, and his passing was largley ignored, which is also very sad. I was a fan of Sitchins, and I miss his updates…… anyway…..
would you please share with us a link to the information about Planets X’s affects on Pluto.
Thank you for that and this blog, it is good stuff
Thanks for your comment.
Here is a paper by RS Harrington of the US Naval Observatory. This research was performed in 1988 titled “The Location of Planet X.”
In it he discusses the perturbations on Uranus and Neptune and what the apparent cause of those may be. He also attempts to lay out positioning information for where “Planet X” may be based on these effects.
Link to research paper: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?bibcode=1988AJ…..96.1476H&db_key=AST&page_ind=0&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_VIEW&classic=YES
As a side note and in the interest of fairness, I suppose calling this a “Fact” rather than theory was an error on my part… In 1993 a new theory regarding the perturbations emerged… Data gathered from the Voyager 2 flyby (1989) indicates that the perturbations and calculations were mistaken due to observation errors in the mass of Neptune.. once the size adjustments were made, it is reported that a scientific ‘need’ for Planet X no longer existed, as all the math seemed to add up.
This, of course is our problem with any of the ‘science’ coming from NASA or other sources — We really have no idea which theory is correct… I, personally, am not skilled enough to calculate this information, so i have to depend on other sources to do it… Most of the time it boils down to who you want to believe…
Thank you for the link Mac,
One odd factor in favor of something like planet X being out there, is how fast they rushed the Hubble telescope up there. The government spent all that money and they rushed it so quickly that the mirror was flawed? How odd.
anyway…… they put the Hubble telescope up there to look for something ( andI doubt it was just in the name of space science).
Who knows what is really going, but there sure are a lot of other strange things afoot down here on Earth, and that is a fact… aaahhhh, conspiracy theory at its finest, and I am in, until I hear a better explaination.
How long before the global warming cult tries to blame these solar eruptions on man-made emissions here on earth?
When Al Gore makes a new film about the sun, your question will be answered. 🙂
Al Gore and his minions is a big part of the problem. They corrupted the truth with greed and lust for power. Now no one wants to hear anything at all about climate change and in a way who can blame them. Global “warming” is a hoax, especially the man made part. Man has made things worse…of course, common sense tells you that. But man is not the whole and only problem. Climate change is real and there are real reasons….it is just hard to sift through the mis/dis information with discernment and find actual truth
What makes my angry BJ, is this belief they managed to pass to the people, that the planet cannot stand more population.
That’s a lie. The planet has the means and the potential to feed us all. As you said, greed of the few is suppresing the “many”.
Only if they could stop pushing money to crapy activities, and instead use them wisely for the people.
What weird times we live in.
The 4 TELCO reactors in Fukishima Japan have opened another possibility of total global destruction regarding a pole shift or global massive earthquakes.
There are presently nearly 450 nuclear reactors scattered across the planet. All susceptible to explosion and meltdown like Fukishima, spewing millions of tons of highly radioactive material across the globe.
Everything happening today on earth and in the sky has been foretold in Biblical and Marian prophecy to repair for sin and prepare the world for the Intermediate Coming (“Visitation”) of Christ and the Marian Era of Peace that will follow. (Christ is coming to the world three times, not twice.)
By the way, SHTF Plan, your site is interesting and very fine (especially its name, which is right on the money.)
Planet X/Niburu is just a myth as well as CME’s and polar shifts. The sun’s activities hasn’t caused any electro-magnetic harm to our electric grid and probably not going to. Every time people make predictions and anticipate events, nothing ever happens.
In NASA’s defense with regards to the above excerpts and there not being any doomsday events coming, they do have monitoring stations in space looking for flares and CME that could damage earth… They’ve also created a report specifically for just such a situation: NASA Plans for Large Scale Failure, Power Grid is “Particularly Vulnerable to Bad Space Weather”
With regards to electric grids going down, the most recent example is the downing of the Hydro Quebec power grid on March 13, 1989 resulting from a CME event four days earlier…
Link to historical occurences
Actually a solar flare crippled Europe in 1859. a few year ago in Canada, they suffered damage too from a solar flare….just nothing on a real big scale like in 1859
NASA = Never A Straight Answer
And I think all should remember that, sometime back think tanks were put together to decide on whether or not to inform the public should anything cataclysmic be discovered i.e. asteroid collision, nuclear war
The think tanks conclusion was a big fat “NO”
An article came out about this a month or so ago and they did say that they would not inform the public. I think it is safe to say knowing how TPTB operate and the extent of their evilness, that they would not only not tell us of impending doom (not end of the world, but definitely TEOTWAWKI) but that they would lie and put several stories out their to in fact confuse the masses in light of today’s intelligence and knowledge, especially made possible with the internet.
See Terral03’s videos on Elenin on You Tube….they are in the least interesting and worth the tim
Long time reader of SHTF, first time posting here. Research Comet Elenin. YouTube is the best place to look. NASA acknowledges the existence of Elenin. It’s coming, whether you like it or not. Some believe that the ancient Mayan civilization had it right all along, however they didn’t account for corrections to the Gregorian calendar due to leap years. Elenin will achieve perehelion between the Earth and the Sun on or around September 10th 2011. Comet ELEnin’s closest approach to Earth will be in November, 2011. Perhaps this celestial body is what the Holy Bible refers to as “Wormwood”.
A recent article over at intel hub discussed the size mismatches with comet elenin… Leonid elenin has indicated it is about 5km in diameter (if I am not mistaken), while other, ‘alternative’ research has found it to be a quite massive object on the order of 50,000km…. Let’s hope it’s just a tiny rock, otherwise there could be some serious issues when it makes its pass… Again, I am no astronomer, so there is no way for me to really know wtf is going on…. But if it just so happens that it is bigger than the consensus estimates, I’ll head for the hills(literally) just in case 🙂
the leonid Elenin story is a propaganda story from the top.
The coincidence that would be for that story to be true is way bigger than I can swallow. No way do I believe that leonid discovered Elenin, nor do I believe it was discovered in Dec 2010. There are those that have seen it since June 2007. The govt knew about Elenin for years and years now.
What were the names used in the movie Deep Impact??
How many years ago did that movie come out?
I totally agree. Boy wonder, Leonid Elenin, PULEEEEZE!!!
They’ve known all along.
I am not expert, but from what I understand, a large outter space object does not have to actually hit our planet to do some damage. I think it has to do with gravity and the pulling and pushing which gravity does to our Earth’s crust (the land we walk on)(not to mention undersea ground, like off the coast of Japan).
As long as everything (planets etc) stay where they are “supposed to”, and the gravity stays “normal”, then things are fine, but if/when an object (be it planet X or a large comet) comes into “our nieghborhood”, it can disturbs the Earth’s fluid crust, causing things like earthquakes, polar shifts, etc.
If anyone understands any of this better, please feel free educate me(us). I learned about these concepts long ago, but I have not spent too much energy researching all of it because……. facts be known… I am not sure I want to know the exact answers I might discover. Is ignorance bliss?
I believe we better be prepared for anything which might happen… be it tomorrow, “The day after tommorow”, Sept 10th 2011, 12/2112 or just the day when I expire naturally. I do my best to live life as if it will end at any moment. Regrets about life? I have a few, but not many. I lived it mostly my way.
No matter what (as long as I dont blow my percentage averages at the end)(I am about 50) I feel delighted to have grown up and lived in the greatest country (THE U.S.A.) during the greatest time in human history.
2012 I’m going to stewed screwed & tattooed allover again. :)~ Do people really worry about that shit?
PV panels have come a long way.
Recent, separate studies by NASA suggested that:
A) There are maybe as many as two times the number of brown dwarfs as previously thought, which might explain some of the missing “dark” matter. Meaning that these brown dwarfs may have planetary systems revolving around them. They have upped the estimate of stars from 100 billion to 200 billion in the Milky Way.
B) There are many more “rogue” planets which were either expelled from other solar systems or were never captured by them than was previously thought, and these bodies may also contribute to the missing “dark matter”.
And C) Binary star systems are the most common type of star system.
I thought these were interesting recent observations by NASA in lieu of Nibiru discussions taking place all over the internet. Google the “Drake Equation” if you want to estimate the probablity of other intelligent life in the universe.
Pull over Okie.
The Gulf Stream stopping, the Jet Stream going crazy due to the Gulf Stream stopping.
The Wild ass weather all over the planet is just the start of the planet changes already underway.
every 3600 years an event happens,We are going to see it up close.
This is one reason We prepare.
One place to check for yourself is http://thelibertyman.com/
now where’s my tin foil hat.
wow Joe, I am with you on the libertyman..
I find John Moore to be spot on in all he predicted in march 2008… some may try to bash you for pointing to him but I haven’t found flaw in any of what he say’s in his DVD made in early march 2008.. his credibility has shot to the moon to me and many others.. I listen to his show on Republic broadcasting when ever I get a chance too.
send me one of them tinfoil hats as well.. I will wear one with you…lol
2012 will come and go like so many other dates of doom in the past, and we will begin to discuss another new date of future doom based on some other paranoia, rumor, internet hoax, etc. etc.
Don’t believe it? Log this post and wait until Dec 31, 2012, and I will do the same for all the others who claim utter destruction via some space rock, erupting sun, earth changes, yada, yada, yada…….Lets see who is right.
“2012 will come and go like so many other dates of doom in the past, and we will begin to discuss another new date of future doom based on some other paranoia”
ya, same as Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I wonder what nation will be next that “we” will be told has done this or that to us…
but anyway, ..lol first we have to even make it to 2012. That will be the rough one 🙂
Have a great day !
We live on a dynamic planet orbiting a variable star. The historical record bears this out. As far as 2012 being the year it hits the fan, I’m more worried about the NWO crowd pulling something akin to 911 to give Odrama a reason to declare martial law.
“Despite the drama of this largest such event for 5 years it is not face-on to Earth so most of the associated Coronal Mass Ejection will not have an Earth Impact.”
Not to change the subject, but I will. Did anyone else see or hear about the CNN poll yesterday that 48% of those polled believe the USA will suffer a great depression within the next 12 months? Who did they poll, everyone on this site!:-)
Not me, but the pubs are taking over on their comments section or the dims are converting. It’s not depression until your sweetie defects on a 57 chevy pickup truck at sea with no air bags. Besides, #1 says it’s just a bump in the road while sitting on the Air Force One john and your tea bags turn blue. I was told to sit at the back of the short bus and I always pick my nose (on camera) to say hello to my co-workers at the bank computer room when taking out fiat at the ATM. No, really. They have an ATM on Air Force One. Push three for $’s.
All this talk about brown dwarfs is making me nostalgic for my old girlfriend. She was a Cuban midget dancer. Damn, she was fine!
OK. All I want to know is whether or not I should start smoking again. I mean, seriously, if the whole damn place is gonna catch fire, sun comes up in the west, Obama says something that isn’t a lie….I want a bottle of Jack and a pack of Camels.
Finally someone who just made sense! Jack (Gentleman Jack preferably)and a good cigar for me. BTW, unfiltered camels are still good tobacco.
It snowed in Africa…….isn’t that along the lines of “when hell freezes over”??
And here are some animal die off maps…..so the story that animal die offs at this magnitude are normal and we just didnt know about it until the WWW is complete and utter nonsense
is there a way to send you stuff?..found something off toppic for this thread, but want to make it available to you..although you may already have seen it ..just to be sure
howdy! yeah, please feel free to send me (mac-at-shtfplan-dot-com) whatever you feel would be of interest… Sometimes i miss the good stuff out there and a lot of the really great articles that go up are a result of people contacting me with the info… Thanks a bunch!
ok will do
Not sure where to post this, but I guess here is as good as anywhere….
Top Post-Collapse Barter Items And Trade Skills
The concept of private barter and alternative economies has been so far removed from our daily existence here in America that the very idea of participating in commerce without the use of dollars or without the inclusion of corporate chains seems almost outlandish to many people.
However, the fact remains that up until very recently (perhaps the last three to four decades) barter and independent trade was commonplace in this country. Without it, many families could not have survived…
No theory exists until the scientific method has been applied to a vast series of hypothesii and it has been pear reviewed.
It has also been well documented that new ideas win out NOT by force of argument, but rather by outliving its detractors.
Having gone to 3 different colleges in several different disciplines, I learned that those who can – do, those who can’t – teach. Furthermore, outside of those disciplines that desperately need lab time, you can learn the subject for less than $500 and often for less than $100. College is just a business and nothing more.
From this we can easily grasp the concept that garbage in – garbage out.
Most purported theories are only the crap spouted by media. Those in the media have no grasp of the scientific method.
Every belief system depends on the believer’s ability to filter out any and all data that refutes the held belief. In effect, it does NOT conform to my belief and therefore it is bullshit and I refuse to look at it.
So from my perspective, it appears that a big share of the preppers are doomed and should be written off as oxygen thieves stealing my air.
Hard reality kiddies, we are all gonna die. Will we experience an ELE? Will the poles shift? Will starship Earth experience a CME large enough to totally take down the electrical grid? Yes to all of the above. BUT, statistically speaking none of these will happen in the lifetimes of anyone living now.
Should we prep for these contingencies? An ELE you’re dead and so is everyone else you know. Pole shift, learn how to use a back-azimuth on your compass. CME grid killer, buy a 20′ conex and put your game-boy®, TV and Playstation® inside as well as all the junk that depends on imported energy (electricity and fuel). No grid, no imported fuels.
If you really want to survive and LIVE, prep for what you can and leave the bullshit to the ignorant masses.
The root word of ignorance is ignore. Ergo, ignoring infers the willingness of the person to discount, ignore and refute best scientific evidence. Do so at your own peril.
Now why have I had such a problem seeing these wandering planets and stars in my 2 telescopes (60mm refractor and 4½” relector)? Uh, maybe because they don’t exist? Magnetic reversals? Ever look at a magnetic map of starship earth? Hell, even a dipshit like me owns a differential magnetometer. Built it myself from a kit by Fat Quarters. Plenty of magnetic anomolies. It is called the natural effect from techtonic theory and is responsible for Japan moving. Ever hear of the Aurora aka northern lights? It is just the effects of us getting hit by solar flares and CMEs. Could it take down the grid? Yep. I have hand tools.
The problem with being smart is you generally know what is going to happen. I’m beginning to think that the other preppers (you all) are the bigger threat. Dumb ass beliefs seem to always encroach on wisdom. Don’t come around me. There is enough dumb-ass in my area already. Never feed the animals, it habituates them.
You’re absolutely correct and this is both the result and consequence of living in an age, no longer of progressive scientific reason, but of a predatory self-interest agenda.
Nothing has more exposed and popularized this fact than the recent ‘global warming’ hoax for a planetary taxation scheme and complete domination of industrial productivity of sovereign nations under color of ‘environmentalism’.
a mylar bag will work against emp’s too….not sure if it has to be grounded o r not??
Check out Terral03 on You Tube and see what you think…he has a little more knowledge than you do on this matter…..that’s not an insult by any means….just sayin
You contradict yourself multiple times in your post and have a skewed thinking in how science works… it is NOT by “outliving its detractors” it is by being constantly hit with factual data that repels the former..
in any event, that makes no difference to me in how you want to do your thinking.. but, it leaves me wondering why you are even reading this site and feel you need to post “your thoughts”… Why call others names such as “dumbass” ?…
Does that make your EGO feel better or something ??
also, with you having hi-tech telescopes, why wasn’t it you who discovered the Comet Elenin then ??.. I am just wondering is all..
btw, I love how you think it is “your” air being stolen…LMAO that was the best one I have heard lately.
Have a great day sir, I wish you the best !!
the “stealing “MY” air” really blew me over as well
I wish I could “know” exactly what’s going to happen and how and when. That would save me an extreme amount of stress, worry and anxiety. I wouldn’t stress every day about finding a job or figuring out a way to make money and pay bills with the “preps” worry constantly over my head. I’d probably go ahead and move back to the home area some how and hang out on the farm. Do some camping with the wife and kids…maybe shoot a deer for once…screw license and seasonal requirements…never shot a deer before. Let the kids stay up as late as they want and not be the mean old dad that fights with them to get them to eat all their supper. I’d just do what ever the heck we I wanted to every day with wife and kids and have a good ole time…stress free. No time constraints….”sure honey I got time for you, I don’t need the internet anymore to job hunt or study the times, preps, how to do this or that without power. What do you want to talk about? You want me to play dolls with you…sure you bet, which one am I? Hey Buckeroo, you want to roll on the floor with dad and play….yeah I have time for that”
ughhhh sometimes it sucks being mortal without infinte all knowing wisdom and knowledge”
Yourdaddy…..some of them came….thanks again 🙂
Sorry for the “whoa is me” rant. Between the job/money making hunt and all the news of the day and where we stand…it gets to you after a while
I hear ya on the job hunting worry’s and all that come with that…. but hey, I find it doubtful that you have never been without a job before in your life… how did them other jobless times work out ?… without them times before, you would never have been where you are now or have the wife and kids..
if you knew what was going to happen and exactly when, that would take the excitement out of life 🙂
Be proud of who you are and what you have.
Have a great day brother..
Thanks a lot Black Sheep 🙂
I have never been this long without work since I was 14
Your message touched a compassionate cord inside me. I am a Christian and I know who wins the final battle of the final war, and because I know this it provides me with alot of comfort. It’s been my experience in life that worrying NEVER accomplishes anything. Do your best everyday, pray for the LORD to give you peace, and then let your worries go.
I also wanted to tell you that I respect your love and devotion to your family . . . being the mean old Dad is what you’re supposed to be. They know you care for them even though they bitch and gripe. Keep on being a good Dad. I commend you. Good luck!
thanks T 🙂
What if you knew you were going to get hit by a fast 63 hot rod Lincoln DUI driver with no insurance there professor? Back to the future. You’d be stressed out even more……
Did HAARP have anything to do with Japan’s earthquake and tsunami??
NASA video to it’s own employees
Forget about solar flares, polar shifts, dwarf stars and other conjecture…there’s a much simpler way to know our collective fate with certainty:
TEOTWAWKI begins the day the Cleveland Browns win an AFC championship and go to the Super Bowl. No other signs are required….hell freezes over that same afternoon. This is sacred oral tradition akin to Mayan prophecy that’s passed down to all Ohioans at birth.
Stockpile some brats and PBR and you’re all set 😉
Thanks EZAnswers for the chuckle you gave me with your posting. That was priceless. Thanks!
Here are your news headlines for June 12, 2015…
President Palin Resigns…Gets Better Offer for Fox Reality Show
Nuke Engineers at Fukushima: This Time We Really, Really Have Fixed It, We Promise
Hawaii Becomes 47th State to Secede…Old USA (NY,DE,MA, DC) To Shoulder $985Trillion Debt Alone
Old USA Lowers Draft Age To 11: Says More Troops Needed To ‘Finish’ Afghan War
Sports News…Browns Roll To Impressive Win In Superbowl: 1st Qtr Fumbles Seal Fate Of Overmatched 49ers… Final Score 63-14
Weather Forcast for Hell and Vicinity: Cloudy and Cold w/80% Chance of More Snow. 6 Inches New Accumulation Expected. Wind Chills at -20 to -30
All with you except the President Palin part. She’s too stupid to ever get elected. Even Roger Ailes says she’s a dumb-ass, and he’s in charge of Fox. -30 in Hell sounds about right for a Browns Super Bowl win though!
I like to cheer for the underdog, so, of course I love the Browns. It doesn’t get any more under or doggy that that!
As for Palin, I doubt she’d make a good prez. But the issue if her being dumb or unelectable- well, we elected barack obama so anything is possible!
Yea, but she’s a hottie with more experience than #1.
Total propaganda BS and spin
I just went through a nasty divorce. I’m still depressed, because it’s against my family and religious values.
I AM NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR TYPE OF JOKES, WHICH ARE AT MY EXPENSE. I AM A CONSERVATIVE PERSON, AND I LEAD A DISCIPLINED LIFE STYLE. SO PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE.
Perhaps, HILLARY CLINTON has time available for you, and I heard she is looking, because she can’t fit under Bill’s desk.
And BILL CLINTON is nowhere to be found. Bill is currently leading young college students for the “GLOBAL INITIATIVE.”
Please don’t send any more posting to me.
You know I’ve requested you in the past not to send your postings to me. I just went through a nasty divorce. I’m still depressed, because it’s against my family and religious values.
I AM NOT HAPPY WITH YOUR TYPE OF JOKES, WHICH ARE AT MY EXPENSE. I AM A CONSERVATIVE PERSON, AND I LEAD A DISCIPLINED LIFE STYLE. SO PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE.
Perhaps, HILLARY has time available for you, and I heard she is looking, because she can’t fit under Bill’s desk.
And Bill is nowhere to be found. BILL is currently leading young college students for the “GLOBAL INITIATIVE.”
Did you see this video?
NASA Emails ALL Employees to PREPARE! June 10, 2011
Thanks for the link! I caught this earlier on James Rawles’ Survival Blog but haven’t had a chance to give it a thorough look-see yet. Will review and report shortly!
Mac: It sounds like NASA needs a SHTF Plan!!! Send them a link! 🙂
Heck, i’ll just head down to the Space Center in person… It’s just across the highway 🙂
Here is the direct link to NASA which I think is a bit better than You Tube. Note the KEY WORDS in Bolden’s video:
“I became aware of some things …. ”
What I thought was interesting was his wording of how NASA takes care of people on Earth and off the planet. Not in outer space, but off the planet. An interesting choice of words!!!
Notice also that Boldin specified ALL of the American coasts, including the Great Lakes. The closest thing that NASA has ever had to a “facility” in the Great Lakes area is when me and my homies would light cardboard and candles under a dry gleaning bag to make a home made balloon filled with hot air that would soar over Lake Michigan at night and look like a UFO exploding from the Lake as it burned up!
Ahhhhh …. what is the statue of limitations on a UFO hoax anyway? 🙂
Limitation is up on the UFO hoax, so you’re ok there. But for arson, unlicensed aircraft and disrupting the migration habits of endangered geese, you’re looking at some hard time. Better lay low for a while yet! As far as polluting Lake Michigan…well, we never cared too much about that. It aint even a misdemeanor!
So if the sun goes dark, and the moon turns blood red…be ready for the Lamb of God to provide the light. It’s all been foretold.
This is seeming more plausible as time goes on
… a few things that came up. YU55? (55 million tons).
Can’t wait for the Emergency broadcast on 11-9-11 on every channel and every radio station. Wonder what will be said?