Are You A Domestic Terrorist? That Depends On Who Is In Power

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    Over the past year, Antifa and other similar anti-fascist groups have been caught threatening, intimidating, and inflicting violence against peaceful people on numerous occasions. And in each case, this has been done with the goal of effecting political change in this country. And that has left many of their critics wondering why groups like Antifa haven’t been labeled as terrorist organizations. What these people are doing, literally fits the dictionary definition of terrorism, which is “The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”

    Well if you can believe it, Homeland Security has finally done what they should have done months ago.

    The Department of Homeland Security in New Jersey has officially listed Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization after a rash of violent attacks by the group targeting supporters of Donald Trump.

    Under the heading ‘Anarchist Extremists: Antifa’, the njhomelandsecurity.gov website characterizes Antifa under the designation of “domestic terrorism”.

    “In the past year, Antifa groups have become active across the United States, employing a variety of methods to disrupt demonstrations,” states the advisory, before going on to list a number of violent disruptions, including Milo Yiannopoulos’ speaking event at the University of California Berkeley on February 1st, which was cancelled after members of Antifa violently attacked free speech advocates.

    The advisory also lists how Antifa has engaged in doxxing of individuals to expose them to abuse and violent harassment.

    But that brings up an important question. Why did it take so long for Homeland Security to call Antifa a terrorist organization?

    In the post 9/11 world, it seems shockingly easy to be labelled a terrorist by our government. In the past, Homeland Security has deemed conservatives, libertarians, and Christians as potential terror threats. The government has kept a watchful eye on veterans, for fear that they will turn their lethal skills against the feds. A wide variety of people have been added to the terror watch list, despite having no known affiliations with any terrorist organizations.

    People who are merely preppers, conspiracy theorists, or who make purchases with cash are suspect. Americans who wish to encrypt their phones are viewed as potential terrorists. Even making your own gold and silver coins is viewed as a form of domestic terrorism.

    In short, if you make the government even slightly nervous, there’s a good chance that you will be seen as a potential terror threat, and the government doesn’t necessarily need any solid evidence to place you on a terror watch list. So again, why is it that in a society where any slight transgression can land you on the government’s shit list, did it take so long to label Antifa a terrorist organization?

    The truth is that as far as our government is concerned, “terrorist” is a catch all term for anyone who is a threat to the government. Sometimes that includes people who are genuine terrorists, but more often than not, it includes peaceful people who simply don’t want to go along with the government’s agenda. And because of that, the government’s definition of terrorism changes depending on who is in power.

    The most likely reason Antifa is being called a domestic terror organization, is because Donald Trump is president. If Homeland Security was under Obama, I seriously doubt that they would have received that label. In this case, that label is totally justified, but that could change in the future. We live under a government that can totally disregard the rights of anyone they say is a terrorist, but the definition of that word is fluid as far as the government is concerned.

    It is applied to whoever is a threat to the system at any given moment. It changes whenever it is convenient to whoever is in power. You can go from being a relatively free citizen to a terrorist who is stripped of all his rights, depending on who is running the country. What is considered totally normal behavior one day, can be deemed a terrorist threat the next. So until the government adheres to a strict definition of terrorism, all of our lives are in danger.

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      1. The article says, “The Department Of Homeland Security In New Jersey.” Does that mean only the STATE branch of DHS in NJ? Will other state branches of DHS or even federal DHS label antifa as a terror organization? That all remains to be seen. Should be interesting.

        • How can antifa be a terrorist organization when no one is afraid of those snowflakes?

          • “Are you a domestic terrorist?” I sure hope not! I have always considered myself a loyal patriot. I signed up for the draft and have done my share to serve this country that we love so much. The 2A is there for a reason at the top of the list! Be Awake, Alert, and Oriented (SA) at all times, and always “Be Prepared!”

            The liberal establishment, globalists, and Demonrats almost always say the opposite of what it is they are talking about, i.e., white is black, black is white, hot is cold, cold is hot, bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter. They are finally getting exposed by the alternative media and by the POTUS with his tweets and speeches and they have no where to hide as their motives and secrets come out into the open. They are filled with hate, anger, and rage. They are intolerant. They are the antithesis of all things good, noble, and true.

            Louisiana Eagle

            • Right on, your post says it all.

          • One man’s terrorists is another man’s freedom fighter.

            • Cretin.

          • Same with “homophobia?” Whose afraid (-phobia) of snowflakes? All they’ll do is scratch like a cat; then apologize with oral copulation!!

        • Any patriot is considered a domestic terrorist even now. Truth be known they probably don’t even worry about a significant threat from the pussified progressive boys of antifa.

          • The headline should read:

            The Government is the Domestic Terrorist, No Matter who’s in power.

            This article sounds like a CIA Psyopps hit piece and Media brainwashing to get all of us distracted on the left and right to keep fighting each other, while the Government runs away with the purse. This is a distraction. Focus on “Why did DHS buy 2.1 Billion Hollow Point Bullets for and where is that Ammo?” Focus on their criminality. We only Prep because the Government is Psycho. That’s what we need to pay attention to.

            • ALL we have to know is WHO was behind the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.
              MARCUS WOLF former STASI agent (STASI was the former communist secret police in East Germany during the Cold War responsible for domestic spying & torture or elimination of any citizen not following or criticizing government policies,Chancellor Merkel was also a STASI member). Marcus Wolf was German Jewish and was prohibited to come to the United States due to his Communist and Anti American activities during the Cold War However Marcus Wolf was hired as consultant by the Bush Administration for the creation of DHS.
              Anybody interested should Google Search the name MARCUS WOLF (now deceased )and find out (also Wikipedia)

        • The goal of the government is to genocide white people and institute a communist state while destroying our history.

          If we dont fight we will be extinct.

        • California has labeled Antifa as State Hero.

      2. We all know how libturds are, especially the ‘antifas’, but I still don’t like the idea of DHS getting involved. They’ve never had any legitimate basis for anything they do. There’s also still a bunch of Obama/Hillary holdovers in there who have previously classified people like us as terrorists. F#$% DHS. I don’t recognize they say or do as legitimate. I don’t owe them anything.

        • George Soros is the leader of Antifa. A domestic terrorist that needs to be convicted and all his wealth confiscated to pay for hit nation destroying and crimes against American Cities.

          • CSS, a picture of Soros laying dead in his own blood would be very gratifying to me.

          • It is not organic. Anyone wearing a mask on their face must be assumed of getting paid for it. As laeagle states in this world of suspended reality where black is white. I know what I would call the ones who are paying them.

      3. I meant to say ‘don’t recognize ANYTHING they say or do’. I’m beat. Good night, everyone.

      4. Quote from the article: The truth is that as far as the government is concerned, “terrorist” is a catch all term for anyone who is a threat to the government. Sometimes that includes people who are genuine terrorist, but more often than not, it includes peaceful people who simply don’t want to go along with the government’s agenda….. end of quote………So by not going along this would make you a non-conformist, and therefore according to psychiatrist, you would be mentally ill. See how all this manipulation is idiotcy. The government is the lunatic. Waiting

        • Did anybody ever tell you to write your Congressman? lol They don’t give a rats ass. Confront them every chance you get in public. Ask why they don’t represent you?

      5. I MIGHT mention that Nazi means National SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party, which adopted explicitly socialist planks at their very first convention, Munich, Feb 24, 1920… but you already know that… and the Geo. Soros fascist Antifa brownshirts are too ignorant and intellectually dishonest to ever learn this.

        • National Socialism worked the garbage marx pushed fails.

      6. Hurray! Hurray! Antifa are domestic terrorists! Hurray!

        Really? Seriously? Does antifa really belong on the terrorist watch list any more than any other group. They threw some punches. They talked a bunch of crap. In reality they have done nothing more than any of us when talking about the corruption of government under obama, and what was to come under killary.

        What is truly sad is how government can simply say you are a terrorist. Want something to worry about. Worry about what comes after Trump. Demonrats will return, and they will be 7 times worse than anything before.

        We don’t want to be on a terrorist watch list for being conservative, Christian, constitutionalists, 2nd amendment, and we shouldn’t want those who oppose those things to be on the lists either.

        • Do we support tyrrany when it is our foes? And what of those leading the cause and funding it (obama, clinton, soros, etc). Shouldn’t they be behind bars first. They should be for the treason they have committed long before now!

          How easy should it be to be a terrorist. To me a terrorist is a guy who hijacks a plane. Or a guy who blows himself up in a restaurant. A guy who kills many in the name of some thing. Not a guy screaming at a protest who might throw a punch or two. They should have the book thrown at them when arrested, but they aren’t even being arrested. As would be true in all things, if they were held accountable, it would stop. And while antifa has said things on their facebook, twitter, and in videos that are threatening, I see many doing the same on all sides. It’s just hyperbole, until it becomes real.

          • +1

          • Dave, you make some very valid points. The antifas aren’t angels, but they’re not ISIS or MS-13 either. I don’t trust any govt. agency trying to classify any of us as anything.

      7. Obama is a domestic terrorist, invited in and placed into power by the Ruling Elite Cabal of the world. He still has plans and they have plans for him to be one of the first presidents of the New World Order. If he survives to that time, of course.

      8. When is Soros going to get arrested for sedition, for funding and promoting violence, for busing violent protesters to create mayhem?

      9. Just want to say happy Quatro de Julio to all our uninvited, undocumented, gate-crashing new citizens. Enjoy the barbecue and the cerveza. And don’t forget you have to be at work at 6 in the morning… and you better not be hung over! Adios and Vaya con Dios.

      10. ? – ?

        George Bush facial recognition 97% when compared to picture of Charles Manson using facial recognition technology.

        Does Charles Manson really exist?

        __

        • B, what are you doing at 1:43AM? 🙂
          Going off the reservation a little re.: Bush/Manson, I think.
          I know you prolly don’t believe it, but it’s so far fetched, is it worth posting..

      11. Just 7 month ago most of us who believed in the Constitution,tea party,ex military,questioners of the government at the time were labeled domestic terrorists by US DHS. It depends on who is running the government at the time. Certainly there are domestic folks who should be monitored and Antifa may be one of them. Their actions will determine how much. They start shooting or shedding blood they will suffer the consequences. I will carry in the meantime.

        • Jim, I’ve never and will never trust DHS. I refuse to support tyranny no matter who is promoting it.

      12. “The advisory also lists how Antifa has engaged in doxxing of individuals to expose them to abuse and violent harassment.”

        Doxing (from dox, abbreviation of documents), or doxxing, is the Internet-based practice of researching and broadcasting private or identifiable information (especially personally identifiable information) about an individual or organization.

      13. If the Constitution was prominent in the thinking of whoever was ‘serving” us at the moment, there would be no varying standards on who or which group was regarded as ‘terrorists’

        When it comes to criminal matters all individuals would be treated as possessors of inherent Rights – a minimum list of which we have codified in the Bill of Rights – especially the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments when we are suspected and accused of ‘terrorism.’

        Gone with the Wind, huh ?

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        • I must have not looked before I mashed the ‘go’ button. It posted me as ‘Anonymous’ Sorry Anon, I didn’t try to fake post on you.

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      14. Well,all these folks can be “doxxed”also.I am very wary of govt. spying on people/labeling them excepting the individuals known to be violent or who say they want to be violent.They will not rest when “done” with one group,soon,we will if not already be that group.

        One day folks will wake the hell up and realize tis the govt. and their puppet masters that purposefully create a divide among citizens,will be a “interesting”day when that happens.

        • Warchild, whoever wants to tangle with me I’ll go BEYOND ‘doxxing’.

      15. STOP CALLING THEM ANARCHISTS, the do not fit the definition, they are extreme leftist that’s it, just like neo nazis are extreme right. Real Anarchist want no government period not a government that fits their needs or gives out welfare or some other social services. If people don’t learn what they are even talking about they may just find out what true anarchy is. Think about it calling them anarchist is saying basically that they are soviergn citizens who believe and abide to the laws of nature and of God not the government, that they don’t believe they owe taxes nor do they want to benefit from the welfare state, they believe in owning as many guns as they can afford without having to ask permission from government to own or buy them. So if you feel the same you too are an anarchist.

        What they are is paid protest provocateur and butt hurt cry babies because they didn’t get Bernie that’s it, like a little kid that didn’t get water they want and are throwing a walleye fit. Why anyone is afraid of them I cannot figure out I don’t take threats from guys wearing mom pants.

      16. Hey government. Make it simple and just label everyone a domestic terrorist.

      17. Unusual. No earthquakes listed in the continental US today. Or Mexico. Usually the USGS map has lots of small earthquakes in Oklahoma and California and also Mexico. Hmmm.

        • Last week everyone was worried about all the earthquakes especially in Wyo now we should worry about to few? I’d call the two weeks AVERAGE.

          • Paranoid, last week I would agree. But I’ve never seen the USGS earthquake map with no earthquakes of 2.5 or larger in the continental US. At 1 PM there are still no earthquakes, except a 5.1 in Guatemala. Is pressure building? Scientists would say yes. Doesn’t mean the big one is coming, but pressure is building. Not meant to alarm the sheep, only meant as a heads up.

      18. What is or is not a terrorist should be classified in a simple way:

        – anybody who uses violence to achieve their aims
        – anybody who advocates or carries out attacks on civilians, especially those who use rhetoric to call for the killing of any group of people. Basically, the George W. Bush definition which was proforred for the justification for the War on Terror.

        This definition would make it easy to label radical Islamist clerics, Black Lives Matter and the many other nasty and venemous groups that flourished under Obama as terrorists and thus subject them to detention and/or rendition. In due course, the quantity of attacks would go down as those who swim in the cesspit of hate would either be behind bars, rotting in a far-off detention facility or dead. Urban crime would drop considerably as all the black and hispanic gang members are labled as terrorists and thus can be swept off the streets and dealt with.

        The problem we have today is that the number of people from the third world in Western countries has exponentially risen since 2000 and with them has come a substantial rise in hate speech against whites and other minorities. Every minute of every day an imam stands up in a mosque across the Western world and goes on about killing Jews, killing white people or kidnaping and raping white women. You can find this stuff all over You Tube.

      19. It all depends on who is in power as to who is a terrorist or a patriot. that is the way it has always been done The Oregon governor is a communist so in Oregon Antifa can do no wrong. Riot beat up people on the stree etc not a problem for her. Try to not get your leg broken again by antifa and hey its prison time baby.

      20. If you consider a group to be “terrorist”, why make it public? Just snoop on them without labeling them as terrorist. Better that they not be on their guard. Was there some law or executive order that established the need for this list or was it just something that some civil servants thought up? There are groups that need watching but don’t be public about it.

      21. The REAL domestic terrorists are ALWAYS in power….Semjaza and his gang of psychopath Fallen Angel demons have been running their “divide and conquer” scam, control the money supply scam, control the food supply scam, control the information and propaganda scam, dumb the citizenry down scam, make them whore out their children for booze and entertainment scam, get the humans to murder each other in endless wars scam, and the evil list goes on and on and on ……these demonic psychopaths have controlled humans since the Creator threw their treasonous evil hate filled asses down to this current realm of hell…their faces change over the centuries, but the demonic psychopath entities causing it all NEVER CHANGE.

        THE REASON THE VIOLENT, DESTRUCTIVE, BRUTAL, HATE FILLED, DIVIDED AND CONQUERED HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE ALWAYS REPEATS ITSELF, THE REASON THE APOCALYPSE COMES AROUND AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND THE REASON THE FOURTH TURNING HAS COME AGAIN, IS BECAUSE THE SAME DEMONIC ENTITY PSYCHOPATHS ARE CAUSING IT ALL!!!!!!!

      22. many years ago, the fat cigar chomper (churchill) said ” the fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists

        • Well Churchill should know he was a closet Gew.

          • A closet gew 98 ?..

      23. The Antifa’,are sick little libtards they need to be put down like a sick Dog.

        Sgt.

      24. Many years ago, the fat cigar chomper ( Churchill) said ” The fascists of the future will be called Anti-fascists”…

      25. Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover “”domestic,”” as opposed to international, terrorism. A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act “”dangerous to human life”” that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.

        According to the definition they are way behind calling them out for their crimes.
        What I want to know is when can we purge them?
        The militia shall execute the laws.

      26. I am a proud Racist cracker redneck hillbilly and If they want to add terrorist that don’t bother me one bit.

      27. Off topic, Russian and Syrian soldiers have positioned themselves at Israel’s border. Russia just bombed the isis allies of the current special forces on the ground in Syria. Putin Is getting ready to attack Israel, one of isis biggest supporters.

        Trump sent a battle group to the china south sea to see if the chi-coms are willing to disable the entire battle group. Since china owns the ocean, I can bet says my source that they own Texas too. They argue that china believes that the have rights to our land, that they concord the US 1,000’s of years ago, that their Asian ancestors the American Indians came from the mainland, so they own the United States and plan on taking it back.

        By the way, I don’t read beforeitsnews.com. You show me where its tells on a site publically about what I just told you about the border of Israel.

        HCKS.

      28. Just after I made my post above. There was a terrorist attack just down the street from me. Section 8 housing. Darkies shot one their own in the arm. 7 squads and a bambulance. I walked out there to observe the festivities. These are the real terrorists. Black street gangs. They kill thousands every year.

      29. If speaking out against a government that is moving away from the Constitution more everyday makes me a terrorist, then so be it.
        It also makes me a Patriot.
        If you label God fearing, Constitutional defending Veterans as terrorists, go ahead and label me,, again.
        You can call me whatever you want as these are just words.

        Now, if you come for me under the guise of a government that considers me a true terrorist, then and only then will you have a serious problem. If that power is abused,, I will abuse the abuser!!!
        I have been active in the voting process, I have lived and abided by the laws of my country, even when I disagree with many of them, I have been a loyal Citizen.
        I have defended myself and more importantly, those who could not defend themselves.
        If these thoughts and actions are offensive to you,,, get the heck out of my country!

      30. Ha, New Jersey!

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