People on the far-left often erroneously claim that free speech ends where hate speech begins, as if offensive words aren’t covered under the 1st Amendment. In reality, the right to protest and speak freely is not limited by the content of speech. There is however, a line between where speech is and is not protected, and it’s a line that leftists have a habit of crossing. Free speech ends where actual, physical violence begins.
A protest that turns violent is no longer a protest, and it can be shut down by the police, which is a fact that the ACLU apparently isn’t aware of. The non-profit civil liberties organization has recently criticized the way police treated ANTIFA rioters in Portland on June 4th.
“We are troubled by the continued crackdown on protest by Portland Police and cooperating agencies, but the kettling of individuals and refusal to let clearly innocent people free until they had been documented was another low for our city.”
In case you don’t know, this was the same protest where the police confiscated bricks, bats, knives, and brass knuckles from “peaceful” demonstrators. But that’s not the only reason why it’s obvious that the police had the right to intervene at this event. Portland Police Chief Michael Marshman has since responded to the ACLU’s concerns with the following:
“The decision to move the group located in Chapman Square was made after PPB had repeatedly observed objects being thrown and shot from slingshot type devices from Chapman Square into Terry Shrunk Plaza,” Marshman wrote. “These objects included urine and feces filled balloons, balloons with unknown chemicals, marbles, bricks and rocks.”
He added, “Given this, the assembly was declared an unlawful assembly and the park closed for public safety.”
Reporters from Willamette Week also noted that they witnessed rioters were throwing “red-stained” tampons at law enforcement officials during the “peaceful” protest.
Explaining why protesters were “corralled,” Marshman claimed that his task force was simply attempting to cut down on the potential of violent attacks between alt-left and alt-right groups who had gathered to face off.
The police in this country receive a lot of criticism these days, and much of it is justified. But this case is pretty clear cut. At most, the police were guilty of detaining people who weren’t violent, but they were also dealing with a chaotic situation where it’s difficult to differentiate between peaceful protesters and violent agitators (ANTIFA’s tactics are specifically designed to confuse the police). All things considered, they handled the situation pretty well, and prevented it from turning into a violent brawl.
The bottom line is this. When a bunch of rioters show up to an event with bats and knives and start chucking feces at people, they’re abusing their right to assemble, and the police should be allowed to shut them down. If anything, we need to see the police behave this way more often when ANTIFA takes to the streets, because the results were good. In this case, it appears that the police prevented the violence from escalating, and while some innocent people were temporarily detained, no one was unlawfully arrested. I can think of a few examples where the police did nothing to stop these violent thugs, and the results were not pretty.
Additional Links:
ANTIFA At It Again: Leftist “Counter-Protester” Throws Urine On Conservative Journalist
The “Extremism Experts” Who Used To Fear The Right, Are Now Worried About The Left
It wouldn’t be a stretch of the law to deem human feces / urine thrown as a biological weapon with the intent to inflict terror.
Great comment. You nailed it and I see the problem is in law enforcement not treating it as such.
So the Oath Keepers and that fucking cuck Stewart Rhodes started beef with the Alt Right.
Baby Boomer logic: we’re gonna protect and defend the constitution by attacking white men, the only group of people who care about the constitution, and defending the mud people who dont give a shit about the constitution and want to turn America into a third world shithole.
The fact that in the last 50 years we’ve reduced the white population by 20% just shows how fucking worthless the military and police really are.
You seem confused. Bipolar much?
How many times are you going to say this?
Already is ilegal to throw crap or body fluids, cops will beat you down for spitting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TecBTjl0RQ#sthash.qVCfQHFM.dpuf
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I watched this video about race mixing (miscegenation). Another video popped up under it which I also thought was very educational. If you would watch it and put it into a post, I think many people would find it quite enlightening. I thank you in advance.
On YouTube
Hitler’s Coup:
The German War Against Globalism
VertigoPolitix
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Great. Yet more Hitler and National SOCIALIST apologists on this site. About the same merit as the fascists at Antifas
Sieg Heil!
In jail if you spit on a guard or on the street if you spit on a cop you will at the minimum get an assault charge
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The VC used shit as poison in Nam.
so it isn’t a stretch at all.
Sgt.
Antifa actually *is* conducting the EXACT same functions at the Nazi brownshirts. Of course, Christian now replaces the “Juden,” and when you consider these people are experts in breaking windows (cf. Berkeley, Memories Pizza in Indiana, etc.) the analogy is perfect.
I will dispense with my usual Nazi = National SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party note, since (hopefully!) you all know that drill by now. But that doesn’t make it any less true.
Violence, poverty and ignorance… brought to you by violent leftists since 1793 (not to forget Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Mao, Robert Mugabe, Chavez’s Venezuela, Vietnam’s half million dead boat people, Mentally Il Kim Jong Un, Detroit (last Republican mayor in 1960), and soon much of Europe and the People’s Socialist Thugocracy of Venezuellinois.
Nice work, leftists. And you brownshirts doing the dirty work? Show some intellectual honest, and go look up who Lavrentiy Beria was, or Cuban Gen. Arnaldo Ochoa. You need to, because you, too, will be used as cannon fodder, and then discarded, or worse. Get a clue before it’s too late. You might find one on eBay.
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression (1997) by Stéphane Courtois. Nicolas Werth. Jean-Louis Panné. Andrzej Paczkowski Karel Bartošek. Full PDF can be downloaded here:
http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/images/books/THE%20BLACK%20BOOK%20OF%20COMMUNISM.pdf
Just under 100 **million** murdered to bring in “paradise” (aka “hell on earth.”
Antifas is, in fact FASCIST themselves. And yes, the National SOCIALISTS (Nazis) and communists (e.g., the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics) were cousins. Hint to the not-so bright Antifas cannon fodder types: look at the freaking NAMES the Germans and Russians chose. Can you leftists really and truly be THAT dense? Seriously???
Monkeys and apes do this, yep, the left is converting back to it’s most primitive form.
Antifa needs to be declared a terrorist group.
They need to come bring that shit of theirs out to the small towns in the South. Their delusions about being badasses would disappear quickly when they see their buddies getting their brains blown out by riflemen they cannot even see. The ones that lived would go back to their holes in the city so they would be protected by the cops they hate so much.
I have to say this again. SCOTUS AND ALL OF THE STATE SUPREME COURTS HAVE RULED MANY TIMES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVES GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT ONLY, NOT THE PUBLIC. THEIR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE SYSTEM, NOT CITIZENS. When we, as individuals, find ourselves confronted by anyone with bad intentions, we are truly on our own. You have to become your own first responder and do whatever is necessary to get out of that situation alive. I’ve done that numerous times and never cared about whether my tactics, weapons, actions, etc. were legal. When your life and/or your loved ones are in danger, law goes straight down the toilet. All that really matters is getting out of the situation alive. And anyone who tries to hold you accountable for self-defense you’ll have to fight also.
“SERVES GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT ONLY”
So long as a Government of the people, by the people, for the people has not perished from the Earth there should be no worries
Isn’t that the truth.
Brave:
Check out this video on YouTube.
Hitler’s Coup:
The German War Against Globalism
VertigoPolitix
Then let me know what you think. I learned important aspects of the economic strategy of prewar Germany that created German prosperity.
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I neither desire nor require anyone’s help. Especially the government.
Primates throw feces. I think they might be appropriating my culture.
Human waste is treated as a biohazard. I remembering years ago kids broke into a school and shat everywhere. Biohazard cleanup ensued.
I would arrest them all, put them on chain gangs and force them to pick up the mess they created, then 15 years hard labor busting rocks and working chain gangs picking up trash and clearing brush from roadways. And always keep them on chains, That’s what you do with wild Animals who can’t assimilate into normal society.
Or just tie them up put a rope around their ankles to the back bumper and go Baja in the desert. Drag them over some cactus. Throwing Feces is a Felony Arrest.
Kevin2, in this particular case, I’ll have to stand up for the cops. The libturds don’t have any legitimate basis for anything they do. They make it clear all the time how they feel about their opponents and what they plan to do to them. When they become violent, they changed from protestors to rioters. If they came to me with their crap, they would see me armed with my 12-ga. loaded with 00 buckshot.
In this case you stand up for the cops. But in venesualia you side with the now dead protestor? These folks where only throwing poop. The guy in venesualia was using deadly force. He was throwing rocks. Didn’t David Kill Goliath with a rock?
old guy, that was a totally different situation in Venezuela. Those people are deliberately being starved to death by their own government and don’t have any peaceful options for getting the problem solved. The protestors here have the same way of thinking as the government in Venezuela. Just like you and everyone else here I’m against socialism. I don’t want to see this country end up like Venezuela or any other third-world hellhole. If the anti-Trump crowd gets their way that’s exactly what will happen. Yeah, the protestor in Venezuela used deadly force since the cops there have already been using deadly force on the people. All those people want is to eat, to be able to survive. What else are they going to do when their own government just ignores them?
I bet I could be set stark naked in Venezeuela. and within a few hours I would already have food and sone type of foot wear and at least a breech clout. What the protestor lacked was the Know How to Be self reliant. The people became lazy and dependent on the government. The NWO destroyed their oil economy. The government no longer has the money to enable the lazy dependents. In a nut shell that the way it is. No amount of protesting will change those facts. I bet there are some hunter gatherer,s that are not starving. I fear the same thing will eventually happen here? If it does how will rioting protesting and throwing rocks solve anything. The only thing I intend to do is live past the 90% die off.
Assaults with a smelly turd.
If they $hit bricks then throw it would hurt.
Lets just have open season on libtards. They serve no purpose other than chaos, welfare and crime. The first civil war killed 600,000+. Lets get this show on the road. I am sure we can dispose of at least 25 Million of this lefty scum. Just get me the EBT list for starters. Names and addresses.
The Cops just need to put snipers on the rooftops and it would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Waste them all, Give them lead.
The system supports this type of unrest to further erode overall civil rights. Can you imagine millions of peaceful protesters being beat down by law enforcement? Occupy Wall Street was exactly that. This country won’t regain people representation without millions of citizens expressing that desire publicly. Electronic voting has killed honest results in elections, demand hand cast and counted ballots return. Trillions are constantly wasted by the DOD infating every price for everyone outside this waste. The war on terrorism is a war on the American people. House representative Tulsi Gabbard proposed the Stop Arming Terrorist Act and got only 13 co-sponsors, while Senator Rand Paul proposed the same bill and found no co-sponsors in the Senate, further exposing the sellout of US taxpayers and the public in general. Trump has changed nothing in the warmongers plans while campaigning before election to seek non intervention. Democrats vs Republicans, what a freaking joke.
Edmund Burke basically said if facts and reason did not cause one to have the beliefs and opinions one possesses then facts and reason will not convince them to change their beliefs and opinions. There’s not much we can do about this generation of honestly – losers (this is not an indictment on the entire generation). I do not speak with hate or ridicule, only by what I see. They are actually quite stupid, let me explain. Many are spending (mostly borrowing) even up to six figures to get a useless degree for a job that does not pay enough to manage their debts, they’ll have to continue living with the parents. However, to hear them they expect 100k job for something like social worker, or art history teacher. Their solution – the working people need to pay for it all, to socialize it, it fits into their programmed mind. They have an irrational mentality of entitlement due to the successful inculcation of public school educators, every thinking person knows that. They have been well propagandized, and they have little to no critical thinking skills or even life skills. They may have 16 years of education experience but they did not learn much, certainly nothing real world, which has frankly rendered them useless.
I saw a female student on Fox News describe how rich people and middle class people owed her and her fellow students and should be compelled to subsidize their lives (with a 90% income tax). She spoke passionately and with a straight face which means she actually believed what she said. When the host of the show kept telling her facts that clearly and plainly disputed her argument she showed she could not intelligently respond, obviously not speaking from a well thought out process but merely regurgitating what she had been propagandized with, she did not realize how foolish she appeared. Someone with a child’s sense would have been embarrassed.
What disturbs me even more is their belief they can disrupt lives, injure people and destroy property with impunity, that it is an acceptable form of protest. The first time someone beats the living sh*t ot of them they won’t understand why, and it’s coming. The vast majority of people are normal and tolerant. When the majority finally gets tired of all the crap, and they will. These silly, immature, insufferable little SJW’s lives won’t be like they were taught. Their intellectual and moral development has been severely stunted, they have condemned themselves to a second-class future life.
Excellent, perspicacious post, Bill. Thank you.
Recall the modus operandi of today’s fascist left: H8TE and violence are bad and wrong… unless the left does it. Then it is “understandable” and “justified.” Think burning Berkeley; think putting a Middlebury College prof in the hospital for defending free speech; thing their vile, filthy, evil “Rape Melania” signs (once again, as with Slick’s rapes/assaults, feminazis missing in action)
The bright side? DROVES of people see the hypocrisy, and are SICK of the fascist left. One by one, young people will be drifting off from the fascist Antifa cult. How do I know? Years ago in my early twenties, I tended left. But the left hypocrisy, arrogance and violence (think Bill Ayers) turned me off – and once I got off the blue pill, everything from the fascist left became crystal clear. ***I am not alone*** in this!
Folks, we have to accept the fact that the Left is absolute trash and they are hell bent on killing us, so, what are we going to do? Just stand bye and do nothing? Turn the other cheek? I will do whatever I have to do to protect myself & my family, end of story.
It’s called irreconcilable differences, as far as the east is from the west. And never the twain shall meet. Unless there’s a supernatural revival, a face off is unavoidable. There’s no coexisting with wankers who will not coexist. Same goes for the goat humpin camel cowboys.
But if it was a syringe full of semen – that would of crossed the line.
I’d make those subhumans eat their shit
Don’t know why the right is taking this crap. Beat downs are warranted!
You shoot the first one… The rest will get the message.
This weekend should prove interesting if as they stated they will antifa goes to Gettysburg during the battle recreations this weekend to protest/topple monuments/fuck with graves ect.On a side note,excepting mistakes are southern soldiers even buried at Gettysburg?Anyhow,this should get real interesting,get some pop corn if it happens.Personally would call for loading cannons with grapeshot to deal with them if they become violent but might take out innocents vocally engaging with these idiots.
As you all know now, from my incessant posting, Nazi means “National SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party (NSDAP), and adopted explicitly socialist planks at their very first convention, Munich, Feb. 14, 1920. Of course, George Soros is has admitted he collaborated with the Nazis in WWII. Fascism, as originally defined by Mussolini, is the merger of the socialist state with co-opted, crony big biz.
Only an utterly ignorant cabal of leftists could be so utterly stupid to not understand that if they are antifascist, they need to attack themselves.
The stupidity of the left never ceases to amaze me.
Human feces carries bacteria from the intestinal tract. Cholera bacteria are still present in a patient’s intestines for up to two weeks after the person is declared healed. The patient’s feces should be treated as biohazardous. It is why human feces are unsafe to use as fertilizer. It isn’t just cholera;other diseases are the same way. In an SHTF situation, safe disposal or human waste is critical to prevent pandemics. Holes that are too shallow allow the waste to wash down to the streams and ponds where you get your drinking water. Throwing fresh feces promotes the spread of diseases.
What needs to happen is that the biker gangs need to show up with chains and bats. Then when the ‘protestors’ get violent, all the police can simply call in and say they’re sick, and need to go home. You see, the police departments can’t fire or even reprimand an officer that gets the stomach flu and needs to go home. And also because “all” the officers got sick, it would be impossible to single any one out for insubordination or abandonment of his post/duties. Then the bikers get a free unrestricted hand, without the cops protection, to beat the animals into submission. This is what must be done. Beat them at there own game, and hang the left by they’re own petard. As for the rioters (the animals that burn cars, break windows, thro rocks…that the traitorous media calls protestors)….well they need to be SHOT on sight. Until the little face covered bandana animals go home crying to their mommies; never to have the will to go anarchist again.!!!!!!
I’m sorry but if you throw a sack of shit or piss on me, I’m going to pull my Springfield and put two in your chest.
I am deeply opposed to Marxist theories.
I am deeply in love with all things European:
European beauty.
European Art and European Classical Music.
European thought, philosophy, and invention.
European architecture.
European Sculpture.
European Culture.
European bodies.
European features.
European babies.
European women.
European men.
European people.
The last thing on earth that European people need is to be engaged in a war between other Europeans. The enemies of Europeans always instigate hate and pit Europeans one against the other. Men against women and vice versa. Conservative against liberal is another tool of our enemies to destroy us. Fight the ideology. Love the brainwashed fools. They need to be enlightened, not beaten or killed.
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Futile effort to try and enlighten those folks. They have a ingrained brainwashed core concept and will never admit they are wrong. They blame others when their plans fail. The only option is to try and ignore them. I will not go out of my way to intervene or even give them free rent in my head. Ive got nothing for them. My grandmother always stated give them enough rope and they will hang themselves. I believe that my intervention is not needed. KARMA will even the score. There is no excaping the KARMA they are cooking up in their very own kettle of just desserts. You and yours need to prep to survive the 90% die off. That’s my only goal.
Antifa as the paid brownshirts for self-admitted Nazi sympathizer Geoge Soros, where Nazi = Nat’l SOCIALIST German Workers’ Party.
Can’t make this stuff up, can you!
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Soros is NOT a Nazi sympathizer. He was European looking and was able to pass as a real German. As a teen, he was an observer. He went along with his German adopted father. Posing as a German and helping his father evacuate ((( chosen ))) and take property (much of which was reimbursed for under a special agreement between Germany and the ((( chosen )))).
At most he did what many others did, he survived. For that he is blameless. What he has done since then as the ((())) that he is, makes it perfectly clear where his loyalties lie. He has acted as a Rothschild agent and as such has orchestrated the destruction of European man through implementation of the Kelerghi program of white genocide by migration of third world nonwhites into Europe. George Soros is no Nazie Sympathizer. George Soros is a ((( you know who ))).
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Sorry, Soros is a SELF-admitted collaborator. His words. He was more than an observer. He is blameless for surviving? So would masses of other people be, then, who collaborated, turned in French Resistance, Vidkun Quisling, etc. Soros has said he did not feel any remorse “about confiscating property from Jews as a teenager.” Here is Soros in his own words on 60 Minutes: https://youtu.be/dnsHl5qzpYc?t=4 Heck, if Soros was blameless for surviving, then we might as well exonerate Stalin, Hilary, you name it – all were “just trying to survive.”
Sorry, I don’t buy it, nor any of the other neo-Nazi garbage on this site. In fact, it’s enough for me to stop coming here. That’s not to say Hitler was 100% wrong. Nor were Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot or Robespierre. No one has it 100% wrong. Even Satan masquerades as an angel of light, and a broken clock is right twice a day.
Soros, by his own admission, was indeed a Nazi collaborator, if not sympathizer (not Nazie as you write), and Nazi will always remain defined as National SOCIALIST, with the socialist planks they adopted Feb. 24,1920 in Munich easily available to anyone who has the intellectual honesty to do a quick google of this. I suggest Antifas get a clue and try it.
I enjoy reading the Woodpile Report. Old Remus gives some good info , a bit of history and good advise. His best advise is to get out of the city’s and avoid crowds.