18 Signs That The Global Economic Crisis Is Accelerating As We Enter The Last Half Of 2014

by | Jul 6, 2014 | Headline News | 317 comments

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    This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.

    Accelerating-Public-Domain-300x300A lot of people that I talk to these days want to know “when things are going to start happening”.  Well, there are certainly some perilous times on the horizon, but all you have to do is open up your eyes and look to see the global economic crisis unfolding.  As you will see below, even central bankers are issuing frightening warnings about “dangerous new asset bubbles” and even the World Bank is declaring that “now is the time to prepare” for the next crisis.  Most Americans tend to only care about what is happening in the United States, but the truth is that serious economic trouble is erupting in South America, all across Europe and in Asian powerhouses such as China and Japan.  And the endless conflicts in the Middle East could erupt into a major regional war at just about any time.  We live in a world that is becoming increasingly unstable, and people need to understand that the period of relative stability that we are enjoying right now is extremely vulnerable and will not last long.  The following are 18 signs that the global economic crisis is accelerating as we enter the last half of 2014…

    #1 The Bank for International Settlements has issued a new reportwhich warns that “dangerous new asset bubbles” are forming which could potentially lead to another major financial crisis.  Do the central bankers know something that we don’t, or are they just trying to place the blame on someone else for the giant mess that they have created?

    #2 Argentina has missed a $539 million debt payment and is on the verge of its second major debt default in 13 years.

    #3 Bulgaria is desperately trying to calm down a massive run on the banks that threatens of spiral out of control.

    #4 Last month, household loans in the eurozone declined at the fastest rate ever recorded.  Why are European banks holding on to their money so tightly right now?

    #5 The number of unemployed jobseekers in France has just soared to another brand new record high.

    #6 Economies all over Europe are either showing no growth or are shrinking.  Just check out what a recent Forbes article had to say about the matter…

    Italy’s economy shrank by 0.1% in the first three months of 2014, matching the average of the three previous quarters. After expanding 0.6% in Q2 2013, France recorded zero growth. Portugal shrank 0.7%, following positive numbers in the preceding nine months. While figures weren’t available for Greece and Ireland in Q1, neither country is showing progress. Greek GDP dropped 2.5% in the final three months of last year, and Ireland limped ahead at 0.2%.

    #7 A few days ago it was reported that consumer prices in Japan are rising at the fastest pace in 32 years.

    #8 Household expenditures in Japan are down 8 percent compared to one year ago.

    #9 U.S. companies are drowning in massive amounts of debt, but the corporate debt bubble in China is so bad that the amount of corporate debt in China has actually now surpassed the amount of corporate debt in the United States.

    #10 One Chinese auditor is warning that up to 80 billion dollars worth of loans in China are backed by falsified gold transactions.  What will that do to the price of gold and the stability of Chinese financial markets as that mess unwinds?

    #11 The unemployment rate in Greece is currently sitting at 26.7 percent and the youth unemployment rate is 56.8 percent.

    #12 67.5 percent of the people that are unemployed in Greece have been unemployed for over a year.

    #13 The unemployment rate in the eurozone as a whole is 11.8 percent – just a little bit shy of the all-time record of 12.0 percent.

    #14 The European Central Bank is so desperate to get money moving through the system that it has actually introduced negative interest rates.

    #15 The IMF is projecting that there is a 25 percent chance that the eurozone will slip into deflation by the end of next year.

    #16 The World Bank is warning that “now is the time to prepare” for the next crisis.

    #17 The economic conflict between the United States and Russia continues to deepen.  This has caused Russia to make a series of movesaway from the U.S. dollar and toward other major currencies.  This will have serious ramifications for the global financial system as time rolls along.

    #18 Of course the U.S. economy is struggling right now as well.  It shrank at a 2.9 percent annual rate during the first quarter of 2014, which was much worse than anyone had anticipated.

    But if U.S. economic numbers look a bit better for the second quarter, that doesn’t mean that we are out of the woods.

    As I have stressed so many times, the long-term trends and the long-term balance sheet numbers are far, far more important than the short-term economic numbers.

    For example, if you went to the mall today and spent a thousand dollars on candy and video games, your short-term “economic activity” would spike dramatically.  But your long-term financial health would take a significant turn for the worse.

    Well, when we are talking about the health of the U.S. economy or the entire global financial system we need to keep the same kinds of considerations in mind.

    As for the United States, whether the level of our debt-fueled short-term economic activity goes up a little bit or down a little bit is not what is truly important.

    Rather, the fact that we are nearly 60 trillion dollars in debt as a society is what really matters.

    The same thing applies for the globe as a whole.  Right now, the citizens of the planet are more than 223 trillion dollars in debt, and “too big to fail” banks around the world have at least 700 trillion dollars of exposure to derivatives.

    So it doesn’t really matter too much whether the short-term economic numbers go up a little bit or down a little bit right now.  The whole system is an inherently flawed Ponzi scheme that will inevitably collapse under its own weight.

    Let us hope that this period of relative stability lasts for a while longer.  It is a good thing to have time to prepare.  But you would have to be absolutely insane to think that the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world is never going to burst.

    Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.


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      1. SterlingSilver

        Its all downhill for the unprepared and a new opportunity for the preppers and those who wish to rebuild the way it was designed under the Republic. Get prepped, and get educated.

        • Outlaw

          290,000 signs that we have big issues on the horizon:

          http: //dailycaller.com/2014/07/05/border-meltdown-obama-delivering-290000-illegals-to-u-s-homes/

          • Grafique

            Keep on prepping in the free world!

            • KY Mom

              Prepper tip – Natural Antibacterial Bandages that you can grow…

              “Besides the sopping up of blood and use as a dressing, Wooly Lamb’s Ear has also been used as a poultice and has analgesic properties.

              It was used either alone, or to help hold in other herbs like comfrey. It was often used in the aftermath of bee or wasp stings, and reduces the swelling from both.

              It was used for centuries as a “women’s comfort” for hemorrhoids, menstrual flow, birthing, for nervous tension, and as a skin aid.

              It’s easy to see that with the invention of Tylenol, gauze, feminine hygiene products, cotton packing, and make up removal pads, the knowledge and use of lamb’s ear for this purpose kind of went out the window.

              However, now you know you have a natural substitute if everything goes wrong and supplies are not available.”

              (Note: This plant said to have originated in the Middle East, near Turkey and Iran.)

              “Wooly Lamb’s Ear, botanical name Stachys byzantina, has been used for centuries as a wound dressing on battlefields. Not only do the soft, fuzzy leaves absorb blood and help it to clot more quickly, they also contain antibacterial, antiseptic, and anti-inflammatory properties. All of these factors make this plant a really great alternative to store-bought bandages.”

              It can also be used as toilet paper.

              The young, tender leaves can be eaten fresh in a salad or steamed as greens.

              Note: I read that this plant can be invasive. So, plant in a contained area.

              • jerrytbg

                Great stuff Mom…

                So…your website is gonna be up and running…when? 🙂

                You always present items we didn’t know we needed to know…
                But after reading them it’s obvious we did…

                Your site could be THE repository for….

                “The place for info you didn’t know you needed… but do!”

                • sixpack

                  “Do the central bankers know something that we don’t, or are they just trying to place the blame on someone else for the giant mess that they have created?”

                  I’d say that the central bankers DO know something that we don’t, AND are just trying to place the blame on someone else for the giant mess that they have created.

                  • passinwiththewind

                    I believe they do,sixpack.

                    According to an article at zerohedge, on Sat., it looks as though TPTB are looking at other currencies to replace the dollar…..

                    “The USA is fast running out of friends to support its ‘exorbitant privelege’. Having alienated the Germans over NSA-eavesdropping, ‘boomerang’d the Russians into de-dollarization, tariffed and quantitatively eased China into diversification, and finally ‘punished’ France into discussing the dollar’s demise; it appears no lessor person than the CEO of Total (the world’s 13th biggest oil producer and Europe’s 2nd largest), believes “There is no reason to pay for oil in dollars.” Clearly, based on Christophe de Margerie’s comments, that we have passed peak Petrodollar.”

                    The DOW has just about bubbled out it seems. When that balloon bursts, it’s game over and billions will be lost into thin air. Folks hedging their investments on paper will see losses instead of gains. Folks hedging their retirement/pensions on paper will lose their sanity when the “big one” hits. All wiped out. Gone, never to return.

                    I for one have invested in the tangible and “real” properties. I won’t loose one minutes sleep over paper investments.

                    I will be pissed as hell at 150 dollar/equivilent per barrel of crude though; which will equate to about $7.50 per gallon at the pump. A well known economic forecaster and investment strategist has predicted this event to take place before the end of this year.

                    I guess time will tell, but I see time running out for the unprepared, and the unwise.

            • Defiant

              Just when I’m ready to quit smoking, this happens.

              • Shooter

                Ovomit is a foreign operative that planned the current invasion. He is providing armed escorts to the foreign invaders.

                • Shooter

                  Email your worthless congressman and tell them to stop the foreign invasion that ovomit is running.

                  • Jimb

                    Your congressman does not care so an e-mail is worthless, the only way this can be changed is if the people of this country vote out of office any politician that has been there more than 6 years. Congress has a single digit approval rating, so how do they keep getting reelected?

                  • wrong

                    They all suck and they are all worthless. Put em all in the dumpster.

                  • mostevenings

                    Vote for the Challenger!

                  • RooBear

                    Multiple surveys have come up with the same conclusion. people in general think our elected congressmen, are as a whole, inept and worthless… Except for THEIR congressmen! This attitude must change before anyone can be voted for office.

                • Vicky

                  Well, strong on the worthless, maybe. Ohio has one “moderate” Republican and one far left Senator. Neither of them will pay attention unless you pay them. I’ve protested, as have many others, and the most we get in return is a form letter telling you what a wonderful job they’re doing and asking for money. Vote “NO!” on any incumbent!

              • skittle shittin unicorn

                looks like i picked the wrong time to stop sniffing glue !!!

                skittle shittin unicorn

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  WHO do you think Will be the First to DIE when REAL SHTF?
                  Besides the weak meaning, those disabled, highly medicated, old and young, those with NO Street Smarts, those unarmed and gullible. Those dependent on the Government for a living and food. Who else?

                  • Mountain Trekker

                    WWTI once upon a time our economy was built around the horse and then for the next century it was built around the automobile, but now it’s built around electronics. I just had Two different family groups come from faroff to visit over the Holiday’s and I took them through some of the most scenic country that this world has to offer and the only time they would get their nose out of whatever kind of gadgets they had, was when they couldn’t get a signal, that went for adults as well as the youth. It amazes me how many people aren’t aware of their surroundings whatsoever, it almost made wish that the power grid would go down. Although when and if this does happen there will be many deaths and much hardship. Many of these gadget dependent people will be some of the first to go cause they won’t know what to do without them. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

                • Warchild Dammit!

                  Uh,Skittle,when is “the right time”to start sniffing glue?!I am all for recreation if you choose it(just don’t drive recreating)hence still/grow your own/shroom picking/gro and nick poppies ect. tis none of my business,as I guess,others sniffing glue,but,since you brought it up had to comment.I will say using a indelible marker in construction in a enclosed area tis a a free work time buzz,but I wouldn’t recommend it!

                  • Ghost Rider

                    Warchild; LOL, I’m guessing you never saw the movie “Airplane”

              • meathead

                thought about quitting a hundred times. Ain’t happening anytime soon.

              • wrong

                Hey Defiant…. Looks like I’ll be working in your neighborhood till winter. Lets do breakfast.

                • Defiant

                  Sounds like a plan to me.
                  I’m doing seven days til Labor Day,
                  so you call the ball.

                  • wrong

                    Seven days? Arn’t we a bit to old for that. I did that in the month of May and it bout killed me. My body just doesn’t like that any more. Amazing what we’ll do for the almighty (fiat) dollar. I’m taking the whole damn winter off. I’ll be in touch…

              • PO'd Patriot

                Do it anyway. If it…(it will) gets worse, you can always pick it back up again.

              • 11 Bravo

                And quit drinking..,,,

                • Warchild Dammit!

                  I have for the time being,not much fun but will say feel better,will see how long I last,hell,make it thru today good enuff.

            • BigB

              Another good article Mr. Snyder. The only main thing I can think of to argue is the time frame. I can see this lasting for another 5 years. I can see the DOW going to 20,000 and gold will be going over that time period up to $3,000.00 per ounce. I myself am starting to buy once again and do not think it can or will go much lower.

              Last chance folks, prep your shit!


              • durango kidd

                The DOW typically makes a double top before a crash. That could happen in August, as I mentioned a couple months ago. Otherwise expect an October/November surprise.

                A great opportunity for those with DOLLARS after the crash. get liquid. 🙂

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Michael, thanks for another good article. I still expect something to happen this year and I still day it’s questionable whether the midterm elections still take place. Anything that happens between now and winter will definitely make this coming winter harder to get through. My prepping is still continuing as fast as possible. I hear thunder…..there’s a storm coming.

                • JJsan


                  My buddies sister was a mucky muck in Merril Lynch and she said that if there is a crash, cash will be king….. for a little while. And I was looking at all major crashes, and they always seem to be right after a new high….. LOL

                  Keep your powder dry,

                  • durango kidd

                    JJsan: “My buddies sister was a mucky muck in Merril Lynch and she said that if there is a crash, cash will be king….. for a little while.”

                    Yes, for as long as it lasts. 🙂

                • yourmotherwaswrong


                  The “DOW” is “manipulated,” and you know it!

                  So much for “Free Markets!!”

                  • durango kidd

                    YMWW: Yes ALL markets are manipulated, but they cannot ALWAYS control a panic associated with a black swan. Usually, it is an un-expected turn in psychology that crashes the market, as all of the lemmings go over THAT cliff together and at the same time. 🙂

                  • passinwiththewind

                    One word that best describes the stock market…..


                    Merriam-Websters defines that word in several ways.

                    The meaning is two-fold when it comes to the stock market. One definition = “stimulate and enliven”.

                    The other definition = “put on and deception”.

                    nuff said.

                • Walt Kowalski

                  If dollars are so great, why don’t you dump your silver and put your money where your mouth is?

                  • durango kidd

                    Walt: Can’t I have cash AND silver? Why one or the other? And how about a line of credit to boot? 🙂

                • Barn Cat

                  The dollar is dying. Jim Willie except two 35% dollar devaluations. Just like Venezuela. Nobody should buy back into the market no matter what the prices are.

                  • durango kidd

                    BC: The dollar is not dying contrary to Alt Media. For many reasons it is still the best currency out there and EVERYONE wants its WRC status.

                    I am not suggesting that anyone should buy into the markets at anytime, either before or after a crash. I do not own any stock in any company other than my own. 🙂

                  • yourmotherwaswrong

                    The durango kidd says:

                    “The dollar is not dying contrary to Alt Media… EVERYONE wants its WRC status.”


                    The entire world is trying to figure out how to DUMP the dollar without ending up on the receiving end of the US military industrial complex!!!

                    DK is full of it… as usual.

                  • durango kidd

                    YMWW: “The entire world is trying to figure out how to DUMP the dollar without ending up on the receiving end of the US military industrial complex!!!”

                    LMAO!!! If your statement were true, all of the major corporations who each hold hundreds of billions of dollars and near cash securities in USD denominations, would be shedding their cash positions as fast as possible.

                    They are not. On the contrary, they are loading up with dollars. When Apple, Exxon, and Microsoft start trading them for RMB, I’ll sing a new tune. 🙂

                  • yourmotherwaswrong

                    durango kidd says:

                    “LMAO!!! If your statement were true, all of the major corporations who each hold hundreds of billions of dollars and near cash securities in USD denominations, would be shedding their cash positions as fast as possible.”

                    It’s a process in progress DK!

                    The Russians, Chinese, Indians, and now maybe the French are questioning the dominance of the dollar.

                    It’s only a matter of time now!

                    It’s the Second Law of Thermodynamics in action DK… Nothing lasts forever!!!

                    Keynesian fools (YOU) believe otherwise.

                  • durango kidd

                    YMWW: Chinese and Russian use of the dollar is historically a new event. China will continue to use the USD in mutual trade with US which is how many hundreds of billions / trillions of dollars a year???

                    India will continue to use USD in mutual trade with US too and the EU with Europe because the alternative is to use the RMB which is the currency of their greatest national security threat.

                    In a truly global society it will be natural for all commerce to be conducted in a number of economically important currencies. That does not mean the death of the dollar by any means.

                    As long as the USA is a viable nation the dollar will be OUR currency and other nations who want to trade with US will accept OUR dollars. You will die long before the dollar dies on the ash heap of history.

                    The dollar bill may change in color, or it may be backed by precious metals again, or its comparative value may rise and fall, but the USD will be around for a very, very, very, long time to come.

                    Get use to it or move to Mexico and use their Peso. 🙂

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                @Big B. Just asking, but unless you are flush with worthless cash you would rather exchange for Gold. What exactly do you think Gold is going to buy you? In watching a full weekend on AMC Channel “The Walking Dead” series. Not once in SHTF Zomby-land have I seen any one swapping gold for anything. In fact they were using paper fiat money for stating fires. And if you wanted any surplus in a commodity it would be lots and lots and lots of AMMO to go with your weapons cache. With Ammo you can buy pretty much obtain anything and everything, legally or otherwise. Gold is useless for survival. If someone in SHTF came to me with a solid bar of Gold looking to swap for a box of AMMO, I would tell them to go F-off.

                • IMPCALGI


                  I would like to preface my remarks that in terms of priorities, my purchase of gold and silver comes AFTER my purchase of lead brass and steel. To say nothing of seeds, water barrels, canning jars, soil amendments, etc etc.

                  That much being said, gold is NOT useless for survival, especially if by survival we mean being able to rebuild after the collapse. Gold is portable, easy to conceal and it has been used as money for thousands of years longer than the worthless scraps of paper that our so called “leaders” have convinced us is “money”. Gold has been used and valued and accepted in the real world in countries all over the world. REAL nations, not fake movie prop nations on TV shows like the “Walking Dead”. The last time I checked, TV is not real life. In fact, I see most of TV as being propaganda to confuse your thinking, and make you do what TPTB want you to do. Kind of like when Benjamin Shalom Bernanke denigrates gold as a “barbarous relic”… almost like he wants you to spurn it as “useless” so him and his cronies can scarf it all up for themselves.

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                  • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                    inbcalgi – Well it is already known fact that in a Real SHTF collapse, there will be about a 90% die off. So I will stick with Lots and Lots of AMMO and Guns to Survive all the way to the finish line. Then after that point when they are gone, I will go around and scoop up all Gold hoarders riches and anything else they will no longer want or need, or what I would now need. Remember you will need to get to the finish line first, before planning a new society. And you can only carry so much. Gold will be an anchor. I will be loaded down primarily with AMMO filled Magazines, which will allow me to obtain most everything I need or want to get me to the finish line. After the mass culling, the rules will change again.

                • BigB

                  @WWTS, I wouldn’t say I was flush but I do have my preps in good order so have a little to invest. I AM NOT A PRECIOUS METALS person or an advocate of it normaly but have seen gold stuck at the 1,300 mark for some time and believe at this point it can only go up. Plus I am talking small percenrages of overall investments.


                  • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                    BigB: If you do buy Gold take physical possession of it, and not one of these phony ETF Gold fund scams where your money is logged onto a paper account and the gold is located in a secret vault in England which you will never be able to take possession of.

                • Barn Cat

                  Gold is money. Money is good for buying stuff when there’s stuff to buy. It will be good during hyperinflation. It will be good again after the government regains control of the country.

                  • helot

                    “after the government regains control of the country.”

                    Let’s hope not. That’s the worst possibility.

                    That is, unless you like being a slave, a subject, and a bootlicker?

                • PO'd Patriot

                  WWTI, I like watching the walking dead but don’t pin your decisions on a TV series.

                • mark

                  I will swap a box of ammo for gold bars all day long…and tommorow too!

                  • whyteflyt

                    And sell liquor and guns to Indians too i’ll bet.

                • Warchild Dammit!

                  Who,agree,but gold will last as long as bills and a good inflation hedge,on the other side of a disaster do see gold again having a value.Hence,think you or family will make it to other side a fair amount of gold(say10-15% of assets)not a bad idea if you have the land and all the other good stuff.

            • KY Mom

              I have been learning about plants with medicinal uses, how to recognize them, grow them and use them. As I learn more, I have been printing out information and a picture of the plant and adding them to a notebook. I made a notebook for each of my kids too.

              Here are a few articles with good information.

              Survival Food Series: Medicinal Plants for the Survival Garden
              -Cayenne Pepper – (Capsicum minimum)
              -Chamomile – (Anthemis nobilis )
              -Dandelion – (Taraxacum officinale)
              -Echinacea – (Echinacea Paradoxa, Echinacea angustifolia, Echinacea pallida)
              -Marigold- (Calendula officinalis)
              -Peppermint – (Mentha piperita)
              -Sage – (Salvia officinalis)
              -St. John’s Wort – (hypericum perforatum)
              -Tea Tree- (Melaleuca alternifolia)
              -Thyme – (Thymus
              -Garlic – (Allium sativum)

              Type in “medicinal uses” in the search bar at http://www.offthegridnews.com
              A number of common plants and their uses will come up.

              Plantain – Medicinal Properties and Herbal Use
              It is a common weed that can be used to treat snake bites, bee stings, spider bites, pain relief (earache, toothache) and even severe blood poisoning.

              30 Most Popular Herbs for Natural Medicine by Tess Pennington

              • ready down under

                KY Mom – you are one of the best sources of useful and well researched info – sincere thanks to you! Beats me how/why 2 morons (at last count) gave you red thumbs for your post re antibacterial bandages!


              • RickInOregon

                I’m right there with you on the herb thingy. My medicinal herb box has Bee Balm, St Johns wort, Chamomile, Catnip, Thyme, Rosemary, yarrow, peppermint, spearmint and a couple of others. I’ve learned how to make a salve/balm, poultice, tincture and compress with the herbs. I’ve been drying and storing and using them for tea. When I get a cut, sprain, pull, bite or a rash I look at it as an opportunity to practice herbal medicine.

                I’ve been learning how to recognize a number of wild eatable and medicinal weeds. I’ve been trying to cook with them and most don’t taste very good. For now they seem to be best suited as a filler to bulk up and stretch out what I would be serving. I’m not good enough yet with cooking with the weeds to really call them something you can thrive on. The best so far which tasted pretty darn good was a wild garlic mustard pesto. I put it on some home made noodles, my family liked it well enough that harvesting the WGM in the spring is now on our list of things to do.

              • Archivist

                I printed tons of web pages with information back in 1998 and 1999. Most of those web sites are gone now, but I still have the printouts. Your posting reminded me about it, so I pulled out one of my notebooks. I was looking at my list of supplies to be purchased and noticed rat poison. I guess that might be a good prep that no one has mentioned.

                A number of the items on my list were not checked off, such as hand drill, well-drilling equipment, reel mower, and swing blade. Thankfully, I now have all of them. That makes me happy.

                • Babycatcher55

                  That reminds me, I haven’t done an inventory in 6 months, gotta get on that! Thanks for the reminder!

                • sixpack

                  I’ve got a good cat that the only thing he loves more than chasing birds, is catching field mice. Mice around here stay in the field, never in the house.

                • passinwiththewind

                  There are some filthy,low-life,thiefs,liars, and cons, in our neighborhood, that I would like to see eating a rat poison sandwich.

            • Anonymous

              George Soros quote:

              The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States… …and the Bush administration is setting the wrong agenda . The Bush agenda is nationalistic… …Changing the attitude and policies of the United States remains my top priority. – George Soros (2006)


          • WHoWuddaThunkIt

            Attn Preppers-Read this: The Great Culling – Depopulation of the World – Their Master Plan to dispose of 90% of the world population – PREPARE TO STAY OUT OF THESE DEADLY TRAPS. http://www.spellsandmagic.com/The_Great_Culling.html

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Yes, Obama created this 300K illegal invasion of our southern boarder, and now Obama Requests $2 Billion in Federal Funding to deal with the Deportation. Yeah Right – Smell the RAT!!! And Obama is using poor women and children from a 3rd world country, to Fund some Boarder Scam. Folks Follow the $2 Billion and see where the cashola lands. I already warned about this several weeks ago it was going to be “MONEY” to fund in My Guesstimation to build more FEMA CAMPS, DUAL Purpose to also house Americans when the BIG False FLAG attack begins. 22 Million people in LA alone. The Build-out of MASS PRISON EXTERMINATION CAMPS. PAY GREAT ATTENTION TO THIS SCAM.

          • Anonymous

            And now Fox News is reporting that TB is spreading within the camps. Lice is worse than officially admitted.

            Get a load of the photo on Drudge — it’s a bunch of cocky-looking teenage males displaying sneers. The word “predator” is practically written on their backs.

            American fathers had better get their acts together if they have daughters. And adult females had better get whatever personal protection is legally allowed in their state.

            Just one taste of what is to come is in the news report from Philadelphia, a “sanctuary city” for illegals….a twenty-something illegal already deported came back to the U.S., made his way to Philadelphia and one night attacked an American woman walking home. Repeatedly raped her, robbed her, and was so dense that he was caught because he used her cell phone and was tracked down.

            These people have animalistic inclinations. They have no skills, no education, no sense of responsibility, no scruples, no morals, no respect for human life, no qualms about using violence, no self restraint, and no sense of guilt or remorse. They exist, apparently, only to eat, breed, rape, sleep and stalk. They are, in many ways, more dangerous than an invading military because no resistance is being mustered against them.

            The nightmare this will bring across the country is only beginning.

            Stop supporting businesses who employ them. It simply isn’t safe and it simply isn’t right for us to bear the costs of all the trouble and expenses they will dump on us. They are making us victims. They are making us fear for our personal safety on the streets we have paid for, in the schools we have paid for, and in the stores where we buy our necessities.

            Reject those who support them, employ them, coddle them, or welcome them.

        • FuckingPissed

          Most everyone out there is in complete denial about what is about to happen. When you attempt to tell them, they look upon you as if you are insane. It’s not only the scum storm troopers we will be having to kill, but neighbors, even in some cases family members that have not done a damn thing to get ready for this and will be expecting you to just hand over what you have to them. Hard, rough, shitty time is coming.

          • Sierra Dave

            Some of those family members that show up on the doorstep might come around. What are you going to do with the family members that expect free food but won’t help? They’ll be saying that things will be better in a few months. And they won’t be helping in digging in and defense and planting food.

            • BigB

              Be like me SD, tell them don’t bother showing up unless they have 6 months of preps with them for thier family. My preps are an insurance policy I bought for me and mine. If they get in a wreck and get an insurance settlement I’m not asking them for part of it. Same things with my preps. They either prepare or take whats coming thier way. Got to tell them that up front.


            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Yeah those people unprepared that come around wanting to suck off your resources, they will have to earn it. Like patrolling blocks away on the far outside perimeter or pulling the plow for tilling the garden. Like that old bumper sticker says; “Ass, Gas or Grass” Nobody Rides for Free.

          • the renegade braveheart

            FP, I gave up trying to tell people many years ago. I tried to tell them right after Katrina and received the same response you did. I dread what I may have to do to protect myself and my supplies, but I know it’s coming and I’m prepared, at least mentally, for it. It doesn’t mean I have to enjoy it, which I won’t.

            • IMPCALGI

              @ Sierra, BigB, WWTI, braveheart

              If they don’t share your views, why should they share your food? My family has always thought I’m a little odd anyway, so I have used this to my advantage. NONE OF THEM has even the slightest idea of what I have on hand, and they never will. They come into my home on a regular basis, and they see nothing.

              the best camouflage looks nothing like camouflage

              Ideals Mastering Power Creating All Life GOD IS

              • ready down under

                IMPCALGI – re you comment about “the best camouflage” etc – I was once told by a very good friend, “The best way to keep a secret is to appear not to have one!”

                Good advice then, even better advice now!


              • the renegade braveheart

                IMPCALGI, I don’t even have visitors over to my house EVER. Nobody knows what I have. It’s nobody else’s concern.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                Best Camo…Yeah see that coffee table over there? Its really 50 MRE’s super glued together and spray painted to look like a coffee table. Yeah good OPSEC IMPCALGI. LOL.

          • meathead

            Yep. Wait till the power goes off. Permanently.

            • Warchild Dammit!

              Power off permanently,I think not with all the alternatives out there.Even with a limited budget one can prep for that,those that don’t will be perhaps cold and in the dark.

          • Barn Cat

            Some of the most dangerous people after the collapse will be people you know that think you owe them something.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              The most dangerous people out there? Hungry people in the masses, by the Tens of Millions. And those who rely on Food Stamps EBT. Thus the need for Lots and Lots and Lots of AMMO. They will care less about Gold, and everything about food. The FEMA Camps will be overrun.

          • Prescott

            Dave and Pissed: Time for talking is way past us. OPSEC is the word from now on. If folks haven’t gotten the message by now there is no amount of data that will convince them. I haven’t spoken about the coming shit-storm to anyone in a few years now, at least since my move to a more rural setting. In fact, I’m hoping that folks back in the ‘Big City’ forget about all those questions I asked ( What If’s) and hints that I dropped. As for folks dropping by, that’s just one of the reasons I moved. Time and distance are your friends.

      2. Ugly

        Number 19….

        Ugly is working 70 hours a week and drives an old truck while others working less have newer ones….

        But Ugly has seen the Light. I am dropping business that requires too much time with very little return. Time is now far more valuable than finances. The desire to work harder and invest into the USD system has left me….

        • Outlaw

          Could not have stated it better

        • Dean

          I love your comment, it’s the absolute truth!
          Working hard only helps those milking the system and the large influx of illegals jumping the border as of late!
          Buy your property live within your means grow your own food and raise livestock, become self sufficient is the answer!

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Seriously. Right after a collapse there will be all out pillage and plunder for 6 months to a year and lots of mass death. You think living off you homestead with a garden and animals will be safe from that first onslaught. Think again. You needs your seeds and all tools hidden for a full year first. Then after the mass die off, then start planting. Right now start burrying and caching lots of canned and dry food hidden from the hungry hoards. You want to appear just as hungry as they and they will leave you alone and move onto those eho keep a full pantry inside their homes. You may have to evacuate and join a group just to defend against the gangs and organized pillagers. Preppers really neef to think this one out how this is all going to go down. Select a place to bug out to where no one else will want to go. Like a remote island a secret place in a swamp. A hidden cave. Just to get through that first year of horror. Then come back to see what’s left. An EMP event yotal grid down will trigger these extremes. Have multiple plans and bury a year supply of canned and freeze dried food in barrels in various places.

            • WaroftheRoses

              Well, we don’t have hoards here. We have perhaps 200 people that are on the fringes that will be desperate. We have another 300 that are sheeple. We have another 500 that keep a stock of 30 days supplies and the rest of the county are preppers. The nearest town of any size and trouble is over 200 miles away. I am trying to prep for our situation, and worry that even though we haven’t huge numbers to deal with, we do have people to deal with.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Ugly, I’m doing the same thing. No point in working any harder when you know your tax dollars are going toward taking care of worthless POS freeloaders.

          • Barn Cat

            I’m in the 22% tax bracket. Most of my additional money goes to me and my family. So yes, I try to earn as much as I can.

            • A

              Barn Cat… and 22% goes to the gimme dats.

      3. WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Drip Drip Drip… Whoosh Whoosh…. Hemorrhaging.

      4. WhoWuddaThunkIt

        What did you do today towards your PREPPING?

        • Vet1

          This weekend I bought the All American solar oven with the accessories for $310.

          • sixpack

            I got myself another pair of good walking shoes and checked/restacked my entire storage. I added medicinal herb seeds to my preps. Tended my potato plant and started some celery sprouts. I like to eat them before they get too big, while the shoots are still tender.

          • WaroftheRoses

            Just got an old friend from Maine into prepping. Your welcome to all the Mainers!

            • Warchild Dammit!

              War,take it you are a Maniac?!I am not too far,though a Hampster meself.

              • WaroftheRoses

                Sorry, I’m from Montana. Went to school in Maine and made some great friends there. They were here to visit us this summer.

        • KY Mom

          Something to think about…

          Setting Boundaries & Charity In Disaster Situations

          Offering Help During A Crisis Should Be Approached Carefully

          “…during the Great Depression as 12 million people in America lost their jobs. Job loss led to homelessness, and many took to the rails in an attempt to find work and improve their chances of survival. As the depression continued, and more of the homeless stowed away on freight cars for shelter and free travel to look for work.”

          “A code of ethics developed within the hobo population which included helping one-another through the use of ‘hobo signs’, which were symbols written in chalk or coal on fences, posts, sidewalks, homes, buildings, trestles, bridge abutments and railroad line side equipment, alerting other hobos passing through where they could receive a handout, where they would be welcome and which places they should stay clear of.”

          “Savvy people learned/reverse engineered the hobo codes and made sure that the ones in front of their house/business said what they wanted it to say and, possibly more importantly, didn’t say what they didn’t want it to say.

          The reason Preppers should be aware of hobo symbols is that they are still in use today, and recently I’ve stumbled upon a few sites promoting their use as a helping tool for people who find themselves on foot or riding the rail system, searching for help during a crisis.”

          Some steps you can take to keep a buffer between your provisions and those who may not be trustworthy:
          -Deliver Extra Provisions To A Neutral Location
          -Trust In Your Discernment
          -Show of Force
          -Keep Multiple Stores of Food
          -Give vs. Letting Them Take – Never let people pick what they want from your food stores.
          -Set Ground Rules


          • Anonymous


            Back during the Great Depression, there was a farm wife and mother of 7 children who never failed to feed any bum who came onto their property looking for something to eat. Even though her own family often did not get enough to eat, she always, without fail, fed at least a simple sandwich to the bums who knocked on their door. It was never much more than a sandwich, but she never turned anyone away.

            She was one of God’s angels and God looked on her with approval.

            Remember that.

            • KY Mom


              During the Great Depression my Grandmother never turned away a hungry, homeless person either. My Grandparents had a small farm and always worked hard. They never had a lot of money, but were kind and loving.

              I never said not to help others, just be aware and use caution.

              Take care.
              KY Mom

              • the renegade braveheart

                KY Mom and Anonymous, I have often wrestled with the question of whether to help others in such a scenario as we are facing. In normal times, I have helped out some people during a natural disaster such as flood, tornado, etc. Those circumstances are OK. But considering what’s coming to this land won’t exactly be a natural disaster, I’ve decided I would have to turn away anyone who comes for help. Myself and my own are the only ones I’m responsible for. I cannot and will not be responsible for other people and their families. As the head of a household, it’s your own responsibility to provide for your family and not the taxpayers. If you didn’t prepare, that is on your shoulders and no one else’s. I work full time and pay taxes into the system just like everyone else here. I’m just another individual trying to survive out here. I’m not some govt. agency with tax dollars to waste on freeloaders. those who fail to prepare have prepared to fail and they will definitely pay the price for their failure to listen to people like us.

              • Anonymous

                I don’t believe anyone here needs or wants your admonishments. We’re all big boys and girls, and well experienced in life’s surprises and disappointments.

                Your self-righteous cautionary proclamations are annoying, condescending, and indicative of someone who fears something which is not real and may never become real.

                • KY Mom


                  Re: “I don’t believe anyone here needs or wants your admonishments.”

                  We don’t need your snarky and condescending comments.

                  This is a prepper site. If I see something that might be of interest to others here, I will post it. Some are much further along in prepping. Others, may find the information useful.

                  THANK YOU to the MANY who have commented on this site with useful and informative links and tips!

                  KY Mom

                  • the renegade braveheart

                    KY Mom, I thought he was addressing me, but if not, you know I’m happy to stand up for you and your efforts to being us useful information. Besides, jumping on a troll helps me get through the day. I thank you for all the links you post to articles I would’ve otherwise missed plus the survival information you post. Please keep them coming.

                • the renegade braveheart

                  Anonymous troll, I don’t treat the good people here that way and they know it. I’m also well-experienced in the game of life, despite popular opinion of you and your fellow trolls. You don’t know my background. You don’t know where I’ve been or what I’ve done. You don’t know what kind of skills I have. You’re the one who sounds self-righteous, condescending, and definitely annoying, considering you’re an Obama-supporting troll. Enjoy that US Treasury paycheck while you can because the day is coming when they’ll be cut off. So why don’t you just go somewhere else with your propaganda? Oh yeah, and go f#$% yourself in the process.

                • mallardhen

                  Your are but one voice of the thousands that read and respond to this site, I for one appreciate all the links and comments the KY Mom makes because you can always learn for others and since I spend my time keeping the home hearths burning and food in my pantry I don’t have much time to search the internet and KY Mom makes my search for prepper knowledge a lot easier. You may think you will never need to use anything she says or links you to , if so your a fool we all can learn something everyday if we don’t in time we will dry up. Get on with your life and leave the rest of us on this site alone, if we want your input we’ll ask for it, but don’t hold your breath.

                  • the renegade braveheart

                    Mallardhen, AMEN to your comments. I’ll take KY Mom over a troll any time.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Religious people who are gullible exposing themselves to the hoards looking for a handout will be some of those who will die first. You know the do gooders tring to feed the hungry and quickly run over by the masses. That mind set will kill lots of people. Just saying. The world has changed from Hobo times. Today people shoot each other over a parking spot or $5 dollars or for sport. Like I said the gullible will die first.

            • vincent


              Go ahead and take in a few of the newly arrived “children” and let us know how it goes. Some of those tattooed “children” might need more XXL and XL adult size clothes, so put your money where your big mouth is! Or is it about passing out OPM? During the Depression, the farm wives could use a rifle or shotgun, there was death penalty for rapists and killers, and we did not have 10-15 million invaders who are ruining our hospitals while refusing to learn English.

          • Archivist

            Here’s a link to the hobo signs:

            www (dot) worldpath (dot) net/~minstrel/hobosign.htm

            • slingshot

              Made a copy of the Hobo signs.

              You never know. ;0)

        • Highspeedloafer

          I have been very busy these last few weeks picking and canning my white half runner green beans and yesterday I picked 5 gallons of crowder peas, they will go in the freezer until I have time to can them. My white potatoes are about ready to be dug up along with the reds. Nothing beats the taste of a vine ripened tomato and a few fresh cucumbers. Grapes are looking good and the peach tree is full.

          I noticed the other day someone has been in the garden and took our biggest watermelon even though its a month away from being ready. Dumb thieves.
          I wish there was a way to store cantaloupe for the winter.

          • Nopittypartyhere

            If I pinch he blooms off my potato towers will the potatoes be bigger?

            • Vicky

              I don’t think so. Tried that one year and couldn’t see that it helped. It does help with fruit trees, melons and tomatoes. What really helps is adequate fertilizer and water. If the potatoes are still blooming, side dress with potash and a little nitrogen, then water it all in. Good luck!

            • Highspeedloafer

              I have never tried that myself.

            • Ugly


              • Anonymous

                Ugly is right, Nopittypartyhere. Pinching the blooms off potato plants will do nothing but hinder their growth and therefore the development underground of the potatoes.

                Pinching blooms off onions, however, encourages the continued growth of the onion bulb. When flower blooms appear on an onion plant, it means it has started going “to seed” and will be putting less energy into developing the nice big onion that you want. So do pinch off flower blooms from onion plants.

                Tomato blooms also are to be left alone — the bloom is what develops into the tomato. And when the actual little green tomatoes form, grow, and begin to ripen is when you want to keep them well watered because they need a lot of water to form the tomatoes. Ever noticed that when you cut open a tomato, there is a lot of juice inside? That’s why you need to keep tomato plants well watered while they are forming their tomato fruits. Investing in tomato “cages” is almost a necessity as you need to give a tomato plant a support on which to grow — watch for used cages at auctions and for sale prices on new cages at this time of the year.

                Get yourself a decent gardening book — best deals to be had at a used book store, or, if your library has a nonfiction book sale you may be able to pick up a very good edition for a buck or so. Ask your library if they have an annual book sale, and if so whether it includes nonfiction books. If you’re out in the boonies, call the library in a nearby larger city — it might be well worth your drive to attend their book sale.

          • bigben

            Highspeedloafer, your name doesn’t fit. Anyone that can plant and work a garden is no loafer. I have peas, beans and tomatoes getting ready. My corn is tasseling and potatoes are being dug and eaten fresh.

            • Highspeedloafer

              bigben, I guess you are right, but since I don’t always fit in, it works for me. I actually have 3 gardens just because I really enjoy it. I am usually itching to plant before the cold weather ends here in nc. I planted my corn early so I have already filled the freezer with that.

              What kind of peas do you plant? Have you ever planted the Hercules variety of crowder peas? They are good raw and even better cooked with bacon fat.

              • WaroftheRoses

                I am so jealous of you southern folk. In Montana we have to wait so much longer for our fruits of labor to come to pass. But they do come, in time.

        • Turnthekey

          Bought more AMMO !

          • BigB

            I bought new 55 gallon waeer barrels this weekend. Paid $35.00 each for them.


            • durango kidd

              BigB: I have TWO 1,000 gallon tanks! 🙂

        • Anonymous

          I copied notes from a great new website I discovered, called “modern survival blog”. I have very limited financial resources but I research a lot of stuff, take notes, prepare for when I do get more money.

        • JJsan

          Went through my bug out bag and updated all the meds in it so they are fresh and not outdated

        • IMPCALGI

          I set up another two 55 gallon rain barrels leading to soaker hoses on the herb gardens

          Ideals Mastering Power Creating All Life GOD IS

        • Shootit

          Picked up a used 300 gal steel tank that was used for watering at a tree farm.

        • grandee

          *picking/canning at least 52 qts green beans
          *picking blueberries every other day
          *Getting ready for corn day probably next week
          *pickling banana peppers
          *tomatoes just starting to come in
          *ordered 20lbs sweet cherries to can in two weeks

          life is still good in my back yard

      5. Sierra Dave

        One of my motto’s is, “Be aware globally, prepare locally.”

        Having said that. I’m starting to tune out and just focus on my own prosperity bubbly by being self sufficient. The only thing I can change is making rabbit hutches and chicken tractors. Growing food, making water catchment systems, etc.

        Cut expenses to the bone. Use what money you have more wisely. Drop Cable/Dish. Keep the Internet for now and save up all the useful information you can.

        • Educated Sinner

          Grow and can if you are able. Plant fruit trees/berry bushes for long term supplies.

          Convert fiat money into valuables like PM’s, ammo, guns, medicines, whiskey/vodka, motor oil, wood/nails, wire,

        • Paranoid

          What is a Chicken Tractor and what kind of milage does it get?

          • Sierra Dave

            In the off chance you’re not joking. And for the urbanites who aren’t self sufficient.

            It’s merely a chicken coop of smallish design with a couple wheels on one end. You pick it up like a wheelbarrow and drag it to a new spot so the chickens can forage bugs and eat the grass down. Generally the sides are of chicken wire and the top is where the hens go in at night.

            Make it strong. Poultry wire is only strong enough for poultry. Most predators can chew their way through it.

            Search Google or Youtube.

            • sixpack

              I’ve seen those SD, but never knew what they were called. I just called them “portable”.

          • helot

            Ah, the first time you hear the phrase, ‘chicken tractor’.
            All kinds of silly funny notions might come to mind.

            …But then maybe you get serious and want one, too?

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            A modern chicken tractor with 6 hen cylindar engine can produce about 3 to 4 egg miles per day. Worm and insect fuel helps keep the yoke exhaust within the deep yellow EPA emissions limit. Hope this informative info helps you. LoL

            • Old Guy

              Isimply fasten my chickens up in a varmit proof coop when the go to roost. I let them out mid morning and most have already laid their eggs. free roaming they follow the livestock eating bugs ect. when the cattle are resting chewing their cuds the chickens will be present catching horseflys and picking ticks.

            • Just Me

              Is that a 2-rooster or 4-rooster carb?

      6. Nopittypartyhere

        Bought a 275 gallon water safe tank this weekend. Trying to get the residue of the soy based extender out of it. Smells like it was bubblegum flavored. Tank is soaking with oxyclean and vinegar. Starting to break up and scrub away. Gonna take a few days though. Then it will néed bleaching to get the stains out. By the end of the week (Sunday) I plan to have 275 gallons drinking water stored in the basement. Nice thing bout this tank….it has a hole big enough in the top that I could drop a pump in there if I wanted to, instead of letting gravity do the job.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Cleaning a 275 Gal tank. Maybe try using a High pressure water hose and grease cutting soap, rinse and repeat. Good Job. Also Makes for a good rain catchment system, place on a wood pallet or cement blocks for a base.

          • Nopittypartyhere

            Took it to the car wash and got most of it out. Letting it soak and using scouring pads on a stick to scrub it. Grease cutting soap sounds like a good idea. Thanks.

          • Anonymous

            a friend saw i had 275 gal tank a while back. you want two more? he said…..hell yes, i answered back. a week later he showed up with them, but the bad news is that they weren’t “food grade”. they had “aquacer580” tags on them. this is VERY important. make sure when you google “food grade”…or look for them on craigslist, use those words to find them. in so cal they sell for 75 to a hundred each. but YOU GOTTA GET THEM THAT HAD FOOD in them! aquacer580 is used in the printing process. anyone know a LOT about it?….the good news is that i now have 550 gallons that i can STILL FLUSH toilets with.

        • Rellik

          I have 34,000 gallons, my neighbors have in excess of 100,000 gallons between the four of them. You need to move.

        • California Senior

          Baking soda.

        • Lurker

          Thing I like most about gravity is that it always works.
          The unfortunate part is that 50% of the time it is working against you.

      7. WhoWuddaThunkIt

        We are all being played by the Military Industrial Complex Psy-Opps team. Have you all noticed how the US Military is hijacking Holidays, sports events, etc. and the MSM (Main Steam Media) is supporting this hijacking? The 4th of July has nothing to do with today’s Military. Nascar has nothing to do with the Military, or NFL Football Games with the needless Propaganda Air force flyover over stadiums. The Military has now taken over the Super Bowl and law enforcement for that event. Take over half time shows. Yet the US Military is trying to infiltrate all of these American events to prop up and mask their Low Approval rating and Genocide. Country Music Industry has also been greatly hijacked by impostors glorifying the military. The 4th of July should be celebrating the “People’s WAR Against Tyranny,” and celebrating “American Spirit of Patriots,” not anything what so ever about today’s Military. Wake up folks, the Propaganda machine is ripe with tyranny with the help of the MSM, and PR stunt of our fascist state, hijacking every event that is commonly known as American culture. Don’t be duped. Keep in Mind the Military accounts for more than Half of the National Debt, bankrupting our nation and people.

        • sixpack

          I don’t do holidays.

      8. Aurelius

        First, he speaks of 60 trillion U.S. debt and then mentions that the world debt is 223 trillion as if it is all so legit and at the end states that it is all a giant Ponzi scheme! Is it legitimate or is it a fraud? All the people of this planet, the Judeo Protestants, Judeo Catholics, Judeo Socialist’s, Judeopublicans and Judeocrats must, at some time, put their heads together and try to figure this thing out. It appears that the “Federal Reserve”, our Judeo Central Bank, has something to do with it, but how would I, a mere 14th amendment property of our Judeo “Federal” government know anything about that?

      9. Jim in Va.

        But everything is great! Big O says so! Tie that in with the border problem and all hell is ready to break loose! Soon folks,soon!

      10. JRS

        For those into “cuttin’ porn” I scored an antique scythe at the neighbors for five bucks and a few dozen eggs. All attaching and adjustment hardware is forged and the wooden handle is in perfect shape. This is for when power equipment runs out of fuel and the grass grows 3 feet high. I will wait for it to go to seed in the fall and cut, bundle it and hang in the shed to dry to use as feed for the chickens over winter.

        If nothing happens it will hang beside my crosscut and I’ll call it “wall art”.

        • Educated Sinner

          Good Find!
          We purchased a very good “reel” mower a few years ago for the same purpose.

          For those who do not know, a “reel” mower is the type that you push to cut the grass, but it does not have a motor.

          Don’t bother with the cheap ones made out of plastic/aluminum, they don’t last.

          • PO'd Patriot

            Ugh, I use to have to push my grandfather’s reel mower when I was 8 years old. Puck that!

            • helot

              Long grass means bugs, PO’d Patriot.
              You know, chiggers, that sort of thing.
              Plus, it’s a terrible fire hazard at times.

              Got goats? …Or, cows? …Or, sheep? …Or,a restless teenager to push it for ya?

              • PO'd Patriot

                Got plenty of diesel stored.

      11. Hammerun

        Just think, one of these days we’ll be able to work an entire day for an MRE. It will be Hillary’s glowing moment.

        • sixpack

          The only “glow” I want to see on hillary, is her ass on fire, running down the road out of town.

          • Sierra Dave

            She’s so full of chit. If the methane coming out her ass was lit, she’d take off like the Space Shuttle!

      12. Anonymous

        I am only interested on #1 reason not been listed as follow: #1 – Myself and many others like me are working between 70-80 hrs /week without any salary increases for the past many years while the PIGS in WallStreet and their Piglets in the Banking systems are sucking our blood through hefty bonuses. I guess we just need to listen to the same stories over and over that tomorrow the world will end.

        • SCTV

          My wife and I went through our expenses compared to last year to date on Wednesday. We tried to figure out why we have so much money less than last year. We made just as much money but cut our entertainment, cut our farm investment(not completely just not buying things we want only needs), we cut out most extras, but have less. It is our food and floating budget. Gas, utilities, etc.
          With both of us working and no kids at home we wondered aloud how on Earth do any body else make it?

          • SCTV

            If you say there is no inflation or believe the BS that they spout as cost of living then I have a bridge to sell you.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            The government main planned job is to keep the people broke and defenseless. Keeping us so distracted with daily chores and struggle of life that we ignore their tyranny and rape of our Republic. We need to starve the beast into submission.

          • passinwiththewind

            Everybody with limited income is saying the same thing…
            “Where is my $$ going?”

            Simple…. it is going straight out your exhaust pipes of vehicles for transportation and vehicles for mowing grass.

            If you don’t spend $$ for either of those, then your spending it at the grocery stores because other people have been blowing it out their exhaust pipes for you.

            If people think their $$ is going away fast now, just wait until fuel costs double in the near future; like maybe Dec. or January.

      13. River Rat

        The plan do away with WHITE’S!

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!

        • PO'd Patriot

          That’s a damn shame, they were a good bluegrass band (The White’s) I think Ricky Scaggs married the oldest daughter.

      14. mallardhen

        What did I do today towards prepping? Lets see picked the garden, canned beans, bread & butter pickles, sweet relish, guess I did good for an old lady. Oh made 2 loaves of bread a twice weekly chore so I guess that doesn’t count.

        • sixpack

          I’ve been stock piling the spices for B&B pickles.

          note to self: get dill weed seeds.

          • tater salad

            sixpack- I spent the weekend converting our built-on greenhouse to a hydroponics area. We can’t grow a thing outside due to the heat,( can’t afford to pour enough water on the plants) so we went completely hydroponics. Finite amount of water with that method. Next is aquaculture.

            • sixpack

              I hope that works out for you. I wish I could do something like that here.

      15. dickhead

        Rule of three’s
        3 minute’s NO air, your DEAD.
        3 Day’s NO water, your DEAD.
        3 Month’s NO FOOD (90 day’s), your DEAD.
        Your Firearm:
        3 rounds, two in the chest, one to the head, THEY ARE DEAD.
        NO BALL’s Your DEAD.

        • JJsan


          I loved it

        • durango kidd

          Civil war over Illegal Immigration? At least that’s a Constitutional issue worthy of armed conflict. Rancher Bundy’s criminal trespass is not. 🙂

          Seal the border. Shoot invaders. Death to the New World Order!!! 🙂

          • Educated Sinner

            Hey, it’s not all of the Illegals fault. I believe that many were recruited for this. The problem lays with the complete disregard for our laws by the Communists in DC and their agenda.

            Let us think twice before we choose our targets?

            • Ugly

              ES…I agree. People are always used as pawns for another purpose. Mexico is not a poor country. They are doing better than USA in terms of debt, and GNP to debt ratio. If we really cared, we would help our friends build an economy in their lands. But this is an agenda and no other….

              • durango kidd

                Ugly: Mexico also has AT LEAST 13 billion barrels of KNOWN and UNTAPPED recoverable oil reserves. They can pay for their own people, the American Taxpayer has given enough to everyone.

                Engage this Rogue Administration like the Patriots in Murrieta California, or be enslaved by them 290,000
                parasites at a time. 🙁

            • durango kidd

              Educated Sinner: Yes I agree, WE should choose OUR targets carefully. Aim small, miss small. Make an example of a few of these INVADERS and the word will travel far and fast that the American Border will be defended against ALL comers. The invasion will come to a screeching halt.

              As far as the commies in government, they should be tried for Malfeasance in Office and TREASON, as appropriate. The penalty for TREASON is death. Its totally Constitutional.

              WE are all, SEAL team America. Engage. 🙂

              • sixpack

                Maybe we should commandeer a few school buses and drive them up to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and load up THOSE invaders: give them a one-way trip to the nearest border.

                • durango kidd

                  Exile is too good for them. Death to TRAITORS. Its totally Constitutional!!! 🙂

          • Walt Kowalski

            Once again you spout your ignorance regarding the Bundy issue.

            Why don’t you get informed on the subject before running your mouth?

            You don’t know crap about land-use issues in the west.

            • Walt Kowalski


              Why don’t you get honest and come out and admit that you are a Fed?

              • durango kidd

                Walt: I am not a FED. I know a lot about land use issues in the West, because I have been looking at ranches in the West for a number of years now. Its a great way to make a buck and feed your family.

                I especially have my eye on 200 acres of exceptional land, surrounded by Taxpayer land and waiting for the crash to make a run at it. Good water. Lots of good water.

                I know how they operate and what their legal status is visa vie the BLM, or the Forest Service. I also understand the land use and water issues in the West and the problems that ranchers, miners, and recreational users of Taxpayer land have. I am a Real Estate expert, miner, and I donate to various citizens groups battling the FEDs over these issues: particularly on behalf of prospectors.

                WE have won some important Court battles in Kalifornia against the FEDS. 🙂

                Unfortunately Rancher Bundy doesn’t have a legal leg to stand on. I hope his fee simple land is in a family trust so that the 56 members of his extended family; including his grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, do not lose their heritage and inheritance given his greed and stupidity. 🙁

                • sixpack

                  I’m sorry DK, but LOOKING at ranches and RUNNING a multi-generation ranch are two very different things. The laws to buy one are one thing, but the Bundy’s issue is over laws so old, the federal govt didn’t even have jurisdiction there yet.

                  You’d need to be familiar with HOMESTEADING LAWS.

                  • durango kidd

                    Sixpack: Homesteading laws??? Exactly!!! The Bundy Ranch has two components:

                    The first is the Bundy Homestead, which represents the FEE SIMPLE land that the Bundy Family has owned for generations, as their Homestead, under the Homestead Act.

                    The Second Component is the Leased Fee (Taxpayer)Land. NO one, not even the FEDS are disputing Bundy’s access to his FEE SIMPLE land that the family owns.

                    The Homestead Act does not allow ANYONE to homestead 300,000 acres. 640 acres create a square mile. So that should put 300,000 acres of Taxpayer land into perspective for you.

                    The FEDS are contesting (and rightly so) Bundy’s continued use of Taxpayer land (300,000 acres which is separate and distinct from his Homestead) without paying his lease fees like all the other Ranchers in the West.

                    YOU need to read the Homestead Act. YOU need to understand the Homestead laws. Google it!!! 🙂

                  • sixpack

                    DK, the Bundy family was allotted certain rights, long before the feds took control. Those rights are now getting in the fed’s way…Taking someone’s right away because it no longer suits you for them to have that right, is not appropriate.

                    Our second amendment right is the same exact story. It doesn’t suit the fed’s agenda now, so they want to just take it away. Right is right and wrong is wrong…ALL THE TIME…not just when it suits us.

                  • durango kidd

                    Sixpack: The Bundy Ranch has FEE SIMPLE rights on its Homestead, including water rights, for water in place and passing through his Homestead. These are part of the rights that run with his FEE SIMPLE land.

                    Water rights are allotted in the West on running streams and rivers passing through the land to protect farmers and ranchers downstream. these legal water rights were established to quell Range Wars. Those historical water rights that run with his land, like all others, are not in dispute.

                    Those are ALL the rights that Rancher Bundy has. They are not in dispute by BLM.

                    Rancher Bumdy has NO right to Taxpayer Land (300,000 acres)for grazing OR water without paying his Lease fees. He severed those lease fee rights when he stopped paying his annual fees. Water on Taxpayer Land which he no longer has legal access to for his cattle, consists of sinks, or ponds, on the land, any springs, and any wells that he may have previously drilled when he was paying his fees.

                    The 300,000 acres that Rancher Bundy is Trespassing upon, represents approximately 500 square miles!!! If every square inch of that 500 square miles were covered in solar panels providing shade for the desert Tortoise, they could produce 5 times the annual energy needs of the USA.

                    Fuck Rancher Bundy!!! 🙂

      16. Patriot One

        Don’t you believe your lying eye anymore? All is well the groove tube says so. Relax the Dow Is route to 25,000.

        Just chill we have at least another 2 rotations of can goods.

        • sixpack

          If the EU is advocating the demise of the petrodollar, then this whole dollar crash might be part of the NWO plan anyway.

          • durango kidd

            The EU is not advocating the demise of the dollar. They are merely trying to jawbone some strength into the Euro because it is toast as it is currently configured and administered.

            Expect big changes in Europe. Their banks are worse than OURS and they do not have the mechanisms of the FED via QE to bolster them. All they can do is give depositors a haircut directly. That and unlimited Immigration will generate revolution in Europe.

            It will be Europe that causes the Crash. The USA and China will follow. 🙁

            • sixpack

              Well, that’s what we get for being so arrogant to believe we have the right to impose our laws on the entire world, then sanction them when we feel like it.

              We are only ONE country in a world of many peoples.

      17. John

        Tick Tock, Tick Tock.
        We are running out of time.
        Unless you want your family to suffer, when they kill the dollar & crash the economy (on purpose/to bring in the New World Order), start stocking up on food, water filters, medical supplies, guns and ammo, sleeping bags & camping supplies. Rice & Beans are cheap, buy some every pay day.

        • the renegade braveheart

          John, you should’ve already been stocking up on those items. If you wait until the crash, you’re too late. If you’re not already stocked, get started like yesterday. If you already have some stock, keep getting more. the more you have, the better your chances of survival.

        • Paranoid

          Time to Start stocking? Are you nuts? Most of the people on this site have Bricks that are nearly out of freshness date.

          • Archivist

            I started stocking in 1998.

            For those of you who are brick collectors, I have a stack of fire bricks that were manufactured in Kansas City in 1949. The truck was hanging low when I moved them from my previous location years ago. I believe the bricks are still good.

            • sixpack

              I guess that depends on how well you rotated your stock 🙂

      18. Barn Cat


        The head of the IMF talks about the economy and also about numerology in her speech at the National Press Club in January. She says that “2014 will be a milestone and hopefully a magic year in many respects.”

        Is she predicting an event that the IMF will trigger? And will it happen on July 20, 2014 as some interpret her speech to mean?

        And is that event a 35% or 70% devaluation of the dollar as some predict?

        • Nightshiftsucks

          Wasn’t that the weirdest thing if you have ever seen ?
          Lagarde starts off “I do what I’m told ” WTF.Then she starts talking about the magic #7,something is coming.

      19. Educated Sinner

        Staked the tomatoes, weeded beets and carrots, fertilized our new elderberry bushes.

        Made 3&1/2 gallons of elderberry tincture out of dries berries and cheap Rum.

        Purchased a new Marlin .22LR carbine for the DW.

        Canned Orange/Rhubarb jam.

        Went on a long bike ride with the DW for exercise.

        “In God We Trust”

      20. snowman

        for 8 years i told those around me(who i thought were friends), to prepare and what did i get? I got laughed at,ridiculed and called a nut.So be it.
        for those of you here i know you probably went through the same thing.I learned my lesson and kept quiet and just did what i needed to do. let those that worship at the altar of stupidity and take the “victim stance” finally have a moment of clarity as the elites and some of their minions
        close the door in their faces and say to them, “i feel your pain but i must live because i am important and you are not”

        • Turnthekey

          You’re not a nut. In fact you tried to help them. They wouldn’t listen, so fuck’em.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Snowman, welcome aboard, and I’ve been through the same thing right after Katrina. I had exactly the same response you received. So this “nut” just kept quiet and continued prepping which I still do to this day. you’re in the right place.

        • Walt Kowalski

          I’ve pretty much stopped talking to people about it.

          I look at it this way…. if they are so stupid they cannot look at what’s going on and realize that there is a problem, then they have next to zero chance of surviving, no matter how much “prepping” they do. Because they would be so stupid that they would do something dumb that will get them killed right off the bat anyway.

          Even for those who can see what’s coming and are taking steps to prepare, the odds of coming through this thing unscathed are pretty darn slim.

          I’m looking at the idea of talking about this stuff to the stupid and ignorant as an OPSEC issue now. Sharing any kind of information with them simply will make you someone that they will look to victimize or rat-out to save their own worthless hide.

          When TSHTF, there will be no friendlies.

          Don’t believe me? Read some of Selco’s stories of what he endured in Bosnia.

          • slingshot

            Walt Kowalski

            Yes I am about finished advising others to prepare.
            We have at this site involved ourselves with too much politics and not enough info on preps.

            I am pretty much ready, Walt. First 90 days will be the hardest.

          • helot

            There Will Be Friendlies. Always.

            Anyway, for a counter to Selco, consider this from, ‘The Suicide of Communism: The Case for Patience’

            “Communist China and Communist Russia were loosely connected by ideology. Each system was far more rigorous than anything in the West. […] Yet for all of the centralization, for all of the tyranny, and for all of the interference with civil liberties, both systems ended. They did not end with a bang. They ended with a whimper.

            There was no collapse. The Chinese economy began to boom almost immediately in 1980. The Russian economy did go through some withdrawal pains, and these lasted for about 10 years. But it has recovered remarkably. Today, Russia is the dashboard camcorder capital of the world.” …

            They did not end with a bang. They ended with a whimper.

            • slingshot


              How many do you see around you? Friendlies that is.

            • Walt Kowalski

              Neither Russia or China had the world’s reserve currency as the backbone of their economy. They were already collapsed…they had nowhere else to go.

              Don’t confuse corporatism and fascism with freedom.

              Neither the Russian people or the Chinese people are free.

              And when SHTF in this country. There will be no friendlies.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              @helot. You hit on a great point peace btings prosperity. After the cold war crumbled in 1980s the 1990’s were a boom for our nation, untill GW Bush dragged us into the multiple wars. It may take years to recover yet. But we now face the greatest war yet as our own government declares war on our own people. Starve the beast as best you can. Starve the MSM and fascist corporations. Boycott them all and support local people and local businesses.

          • the renegade braveheart

            Walt, I have to agree. I’ve also read some of Selco’s stories and they gave me some chills. It’s going to be far worse here in the US.

        • Tex

          When preppers don’t talk, it’s kind of hard to form teams. Listen to what others are saying, but don’t give away much. As times get tougher, approach them to form teams. Know their skill sets and explain how you can benefit each other. You can’t make others think, but you can listen to what they think and merge them into a plan. Some preppers, I wouldn’t want to team up with, but I understand what value they have. Case in point, one mouthy prepper was discussing someone else’s preps in an insecure environment. He won’t be part of my team, and I’ll now more about him than he does me. OPSEC is the rule. I think preppers can spot each other, even if no one outright declares themselves to be a prepper.

      21. KY Mom

        Feds to Bring in Riot Squad Against Illegal Immigration Protesters

        “As illegal immigrants continue to spill across the U.S.-Mexico border, federal authorities are attempting to relocate the migrants from South Texas to housing facilities in states across the nation.

        One such facility is located in Murrieta, California, where a large group of protesters recently blocked a bus full of migrants from arriving. The protesters remain there, adamant that illegal immigrants don’t get dumped in their town.

        But soon the concerned citizens may be forced to step down–Breitbart Texas has learned that federal agents plan to arrive in Murrieta on Monday with riot gear to ensure that another busload makes it to the housing facility.”

        “…local police officers warned the protesters that “it’s going to get ugly.”

        “Officers out there warned people that federal agents will be in Murrieta on Monday–they are going to get the next bus through no matter what. Riot gear and shields will be used to push the crowd back.”


        • Ugly

          People need to be filming this and make it viral….I wonder if Mexico will allow illegal immigrants from the USA? Something tells me that the border may soon be a two way street…..dudes, we may soon need two IDs….one is the real name, and the other is the illegal name. We can play this game too….

        • Educated Sinner

          @ KY Mom

          Very interesting item. The DW and I were speaking today, and we can’t remember a time (EVEN IN THE 1960’S) where Americans were fighting with/aiming guns at each other like this, BEFORE BARRY GOT ELECTED.

          I read today where the Feds are planning to take another run at the Bundy Family/Ranch soon too.

          Even the best built boiler can take only so much pressure before it blows!

          “In God We Trust”

          • the renegade braveheart

            ES, I saw that same article yesterday. They said that Bundy “crossed the line”. Do they mean he ‘crossed a line’ when he, with the help of his supporters, acted in self-defense of his land? What do the feds think they were doing? They and local law enforcement were the first ones to come in and point weapons at people. Those Bundy supporters did have weapons, yes, but those were for self-defense. And the BLM said that the Bundy supporters were engaged in “unacceptable behavior”, as I recall. I say that the way the feds handled the situation in the beginning, tasering Bundy’s family and attacking people with dogs is “unacceptable behavior”. those militia were acting in self-defense, which is their right. Let the feds bring it. They’ll regret it.

            • sixpack

              Wasn’t the only people “pointing guns” at anyone, the BLM?

        • Tommy Fox

          Let me get this straight.
          They are going to push back against Americans, instead of securing the border?
          If they secured the border in the first place, there would be no problem.

          • helot

            No, Tommy Fox. If they didn’t give away freebies left and right there would be no incentive for them to come here unless they had the promise of a job.

            A tight border works both ways, keeps you in if you want out. Think about that. Or, I guess ‘The Wall’ in the GDR was a good thing?

      22. Confederate

        False flag event coming in the next few months. Hope it doesn’t happen but Obama is pushing, pushing, pushing. He wants to declare martial law so bad he can taste it. Timing is everything.

        • Walt Kowalski

          The way it’s looking, a false flag event in connection with this immigration thing is not out of the question.

          It would not surprise me in the least if the FEDs try to initiate and instigate a riot situation or “terrorist” event in Murietta as a justification to impose some kind of draconian response.

          I have come to the very strong belief that the administration is intentionally trying to provoke open revolt and rebellion. Nobody in the administration is so stupid as to think that what they are doing is not infuriating the population.

          Folks….remember that these people are not dummies (I’m referring to the Obama administration). They are pursuing a planned course with a specific agenda. Read what happened in Russia when they had the Bolshevik Revolution.

          It is the Hegelian Dialectic in action.

          • VRF

            Ive said it before..this is provoked

            • VRF

              we’re being provoked

      23. WHoWuddaThunkIt

        501(c)3 Charity Scams.
        For just .50 cents a day you can get a photos of some 3rd world kid, in fact the same photo that thousands of other people get. Maybe a few cents actually goes for food to feed the kid, and the rest gets eaten up with Admin salaries and costs.

        For a dollar a day you can donate to the wounded warriors fund, which the charity has been criticized for its salaries, with 10 employees earning $150,000 or more. Chief executive Steve Nardizzi, whose total compensation was about $330,000 last year, said salaries are in line with similarly sized organizations. Source:Tampa Bay Times

        Animal Cruelty; send your dollars in to stop the doggy beatings. Quick send in your money to stop this cute puppy in the photo from getting beaten. He counts on you.

        PT Barnum – A sucker is born every day!!

        • Barn Cat

          PT Barnum said there was a sucker born every MINUTE.

          A lot of charities do a great job. The Salvation Army and World Relief are just two examples.

          • Barn Cat

            According to the Salvation Army’s 2012 report, 88% of contributions went to program services. I challenge anyone to find a charity that does better.

            • Grafique

              Friends of Israel’s Defense Forces is above 90%.

              • Paranoid

                As far as that is concerned, it says it’s 100% waste. They are no friends of ours.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                @Grafidope – Israeli Defense fund charity? LMFAO!! OK so like 90% of the money goes for weapons and genocide? How fun. And the other 10% must go to the Admin Salaries to plan those fun Homicidal outings. You are showing your utter ignorance again. Stick to Honey booboo show friends.

                • Grafique

                  No, the FIDF doesn’t support the IDF, it supports the families of the IDF.

                  “I will bless them that bless thee and I will curse him that curseth thee.”

                  • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                    Grafidope, When SHTF you can Grab your Hebrew Bible and Cram for the Final. We all know the Jews religious Policy is to scam and collect other people’s money in every way fashionable or not, to support themselves off of other people sweat, just like the parasite sucking blood from the host. That is not a charity to pay yourself 90%.

              • Anonymous

                You mean the baby killers have 90% popularity the same as their cousins in ISIS?

        • Educated Sinner

          Having worked in both the medical field and at a church, I can tell you that the Salvation Army uses every dollar that they receive wisely. The are good folks for the most part.

          I’m not trying to anger you, only enlighten.

          On another point: For 2,000 generation after generation has looked at the life of Jesus Christ as recorded within the Bible and come to the conclusion that it is true History. Consider that there were countless eye witnesses to His miracles, the 12 Apostles all died terrible deaths but none recanted their Faith, and the rapid growth of the Church following the Cross all bears evidence to the Gospel being True.

          Thus if the Christ of History is true, there is a God.

          • helot

            According to charitywatch, “The Salvation Army is […] a global organization with its headquarters in London, England. […]

            These statements show over $2 billion in income and $1.6 billion in expenses for fiscal 1996.

            Since the Headquarters and the World Service Office do not report fundraising costs, and their expenses account for only about 2% of the Salvation Army’s total budget, AIP is not presently rating these entities.

            While the parts of The Salvation Army that have been evaluated receive a high rating from AIP based on their financial performance, AIP members should be aware that the organization lacks an independent governing board.” …

            I see lots of red flags there. And what’s almost half a billion dollars for administration and such, anyway? Petty cash.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            You sure your Salvation Army Stint wasn’t part of your court ordered community service probation sentence?. Yes it must be humbling. LoL. Good job then.

      24. gatheringbird

        I did not do anything to prepare today, I waited for word from my two grandchildren age 12 as to how they did at the national shooting competition in Rodgers Arkansas. We just added two more shooters to the family tree. One of their favorite things they learned at the competition was how to barter. Every team brought things to trade and it was put on tables and all the teams could barter for what they wanted. My grandson is really proud of the daisey pocket knife, the deer horns and the deer skull he traded for a couple jars of apple butter and a jar of honey. although I would have rather had the apple butter I guess being 12 years old a deer skull is kinda hard to pass up.

      25. Anonymous


        • Educated Sinner

          Just saying so is not enough, I know that there is a God and that His son died for my sins.

          Here is a little homework, prove that there is a God.

          In Seminary we learned:
          #1. Evidence in His creation
          #2. Moral order in Mankind
          #3. Historical evidence thru Christ
          4# Continued progression of Christ’s Kingdom
          5# Fulfillment of Prophesy.

          • Grafique

            Faith is the evidence of things hoped for and the substance of things not seen.
            No further proof needed.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Faith is a set of beliefs absent of any facts or proof. Kind of like finding a stop watch on a bench and declaring you just discovered the almighty powerful device that can stop time. Then worshiping it. And failure to do so you will burn in hell. That kind of faith eh graficaspoof?

              • Grafique

                Look at WWTI, whose wisdom is greater than the Bible’s.

            • Educated Sinner


              We are to love God with all of our “Heart, Soul, and Mind”, thus we are also to use our minds for His Glory, not just twist scripture, or misquote verses to fit our own point of view. Words have meaning and we are to attempt to think God’s thoughts and say His words, BY USING OUR MINDS!

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Any proof you can provide on that? Thx.

          • Mountain Trekker

            WWTI have you ever personally seen an Atom. Or do you really know anyone personally that has seen an Atom. I really doubt that you have or do. But you probably believe they exist because they told you that they do. Good Luck My Friend.

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              You have to choose. You either belive in the bible stories. Or you belive in science, history, physics, dinosaurs, carbon dating, evolution, million year old fossils and the grand canyon. You can’t have it both ways. You think the grand canyon was made in 3 days?

              • Educated Sinner

                Then why is Theology referred to as “The Queen of Science”.
                Deep down inside we all know that there is a God. Look around you at the precision of our World/our bodies.

                When I was an Atheist, it was because I was living a immoral life style, my guilt got in my way, so God had to go.

                Is it the same with you brother?

              • Mountain Trekker

                WWTI Thank GOD were all free to choose. But the Grand Canyon is just a fly speck, GOD created the Universe. Trekker Out.

            • WHoWuddaThunkIt

              Yes, I have seen Water “Atoms in my Eav’s” Troughs and down spouts. lol

              • Educated Sinner

                Are you certain that Ayn Rand was a real person? Are you certain that Rand Paul is really Ron Paul’s son? They say that there are 300 million people in the US, have you counted them all?

                Explain to me why the Apostle Paul, riding with a group of men, suddenly became an Evangelist. He made no money, was beaten, jailed, tortured and beheaded for the Gospel, WHY?

                Not Faith, he encountered the risen Christ and believed.

                In God We Trust

                • Grafique

                  If your salvation is based on ANYTHING besides faith, it’s worthless. All your smarts and logic mean nothing when it comes to the New Birth. Ephesians 2:8, 9 DOES NOT say “For by grace are you saved through logic and education.”

                  • Educated Sinner

                    @ Grafigue,
                    The above was not ment for you, but WWHTI. I guess you just want to fight with me.

                    In every Church there is always some half wit who thinks that they’re going to show up the Pastor, tag you’re it!

                    Why don’t you just go suck your thumb and wait for the mythical rapture to occur.

                • Paranoid

                  Sure: “All others pay cash”

        • Tex

          Hell Explained

          The following is an actual question given on a University of Arizona chemistry mid term, and an actual answer turned in by a student.

          The answer by one student was so ‘profound’ that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well :

          Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

          Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle’s Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

          One student, however, wrote the following:

          First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving, which is unlikely… I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

          Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

          This gives two possibilities:

          1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

          2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
          So which is it?

          If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, ‘It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,’ and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct…… …leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting ‘Oh my God.’

      26. Jim in Va.

        So Federal riot police are protecting those that have committed felonies by crossing the border? Damn if this isn’t ass backwards.

        • Nightshiftsucks

          Then they should be arrested for aiding and abetting.

        • sixpack

          Oblunder is rubbing our noses in the fact that we have lost our own country to the NWO.

          We’re not like puppies.

          We bite back.

      27. slingshot

        old news.

      28. logicrazy

        sell your goldman sachs, and buy gold…

      29. aljamo

        Sure could of fooled me. Today’s paper (I pulled it out of the recycle dumpster bin) ran big headlines about the improving economic recovery and another fall in the unemployment rate. Everything is smelling like roses according to mainstream media sources. Does anybody really read and believe this crap? We are being set up for a devastating collapse. Only the mentally strong and ready will survive. “Dissent is the greatest form of patriotism”.

      30. Creative Minds Business Group



        I’m the founder of my own little business group.
        I’m reading up and studying on a software called DotNetNuke.
        Pretty much it’s a codeless way to create web sites.
        Then I put amazon.com links on my many sites.

        The other day Amazon.com deposited $112 into my checking account.
        I just got back from grocery shopping and spent $95.
        Tomorrow I need to gas up my car a touch.

        So just by cutting and pasting links into my sites from amazon folks bought products and books.

        We’ve all talked about prepping.

        But now how about building for the future.

        The site is my own little site for my guys.
        As I learn the software I continue to extend and expand the info. on how the software works.

        It works like this…
        You take out a hosting plan with PowerDNN for $20.
        You get a database.
        Then you web login to your site.
        You get some type of .com name.
        Then the one database can create as many sites as you like.
        We are currently working on video game fan sites.

        Feel free to register with my site and you can join my happy band of IT misfits and we’ll be creating many sites.

        Note.. It’s free and I require no fees or anything like that.

        In time I benefit by having you list a few amazon links on your site header and footer with my code.

        Later, I’ll take the cream of the crop and we’ll be spinning off .coms as a crew.

        I hope you join.


      31. Feisty Old Broad

        Signing OFF. Thank you all for your valuable insight and information. Thanks to Mac for providing a site where folks can be who they are and express themselves accordingly AND share valuable information. I will continue to pray for you all…..
        Have Faith, Keep Faith, Share Faith
        and have SISU

        • PO'd Patriot

          Adios FOB. Vaya con Dios!

        • Ugly

          Good luck with everything. As a fellow Idahoan, I will miss your advice….

        • Paranoid

          Don’t be foolish, stick around, the fun part is just starting.

          • Warchild Dammit!

            FOB,not sure why you are leaving but the best of luck to you and yours,may the sun shine on your back and the fish be plentiful,take care,Warchild

      32. Ugly


        Love The Lord your God with all heart, strength, and mind….
        Love your neighbor as you love yourself….

        If we really did this, then peace and thanksgiving would be abound….

        I will prepare, but I will not hate.

      33. Kulafarmer


        Suns out,
        Gardens growing great,
        Fridge and cupboards are full,
        No money in the banks or market,
        Who is John Galt!

      34. RickInOregon

        Off topic:

        Fish report.
        My wife and I spent the 4th of July weekend at a coastal marina on our boat. We got there Friday morning and crossed the bar and set out some crab traps. I baited them with a concoction that I used for shrimping. We then headed west in search of some salmon, ocean salmon fishing isn’t something that I’ve done very much and I have a lot to learn but we did scratch out a few coho salmon. The ocean was pretty nice. On the way back in we checked the crab traps and they were empty, shrimp bait doesn’t work on dungeness crab.

        Then next morning we head out out with tuna carcasses for crab bait. We set our three traps and then tried for salmon again. We scratched out a couple more and then with a gorgeous ocean all about us we decided to fish near shore for rock fish. The fishing was a little slow but still put some in the fish box. There were a number of grey whales we seen near shore. A few of them were closer than a hundred yards of my boat. At the end of the day we pulled the crab traps and they were full. We had an easy boat limit of crabs. We rebaited the traps and set them for an overnight soak. We went back to the boat slip and cooked up our crabs at dock.

        This morning we went out and pulled our traps. They weren’t as full as the previous days but they had plenty. We went back in and cleaned up the boat and buttoned it down. I won’t be back to it for a couple of weeks.

        On the way home we stopped by my sisters house and cooked up todays catch. The last batch we made a seafood dump. We added to the crab cooker some red potatoes, corn on the cob, little smokies, salmon chunks and some lingcod chunks. It made a very good meal after a long weekend of little sleep, good company and decent fishing.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          We were told to:
          Remember the Maine. Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember 911don’t forget.
          And now Remember the Fed who destroyed us too. As we are running out of memory and time.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Remember the Alamo…

        • PO'd Patriot

          Sounds like a meal fit for a King. Blue crab report here is bleak (Chesapeake bay). Female (sooks) are way down. Male (Jimmie) crabs are fetching 90 bucks a dozen for extra large. Looks I won’t be eating any anytime soon. My son landed some croakers (hardhead), perch and rockfish on a recent outing. My wife whipped up some crab imperial to top them off and we pigged out.

        • slingshot


          Sounded like good time. Just having fun and no worries.

        • buttcrackofdoom

          dammit rick, you just made me soooo homesick for oregon. now i gotta start planning a trip to coos bay for the summer, and make the long hot drive from so cal up there. i remember 4 years ago i paid a visit and they had lingcod all you could eat fish-n-chips at a waldport restaurant(not there anymore). i think i had about 8 helpings…NEVER had fish that tasted so good in my whole damn life, and i commercial fished for a couple years out of winchester bay. wouldn’t mind sayin’ hi to you if you want to do a meetup while i’m there? and yes, i will be doing some blackberry pies while i’m at it! ….gods country, oregon.

        • lastmanstanding

          Awesome Rick…fun, productive and safe…a great way for good people to appreciate life.

          More garden space for me over the weekend. Trying to push the window in my neck and get another crop of storable food.

      35. Rightly Ready

        So you want’a know when it’s going to start happening. Are you goofey? The S is HTF all around you and most of you still don’t see the writing on the wall. You’re still driving to work without a survival bag on less than a half tank of gas because nothing is going to happen. Got news for you: TSHF when you least expect it. You have to be crazy not to be a prepper. Don’t wait until the SHTF. But don’t try to convince the people who believe the single bullet theory that took away Kennedy. All the political and economic indicators point to the inevitable conclusion that sooner, not later the S will HTF. If you’re intelligent enough to understand the acronym you have the possibility of mitigating the nasty circumstances your politicians have created. The citizens voted these mentally disturbed beings into office and are partially responsible for the deadly mess they are faced with. Now you want to know how to survive. Or maybe your head is still deeply stuck up your own ignoble orifice, and you actually think that Uncle Sam is going to be there to change your pants when the SHTF. No, no, when you find yourself starving you’re going to need uncle spam not Sam, and much more. Get a manual written by a Russian who survived the implosion of the Soviet Union. This is written for Americans who are about ready to be left up the river without a paddle. Believe me, this is cheap or free at AMAZON, it’s called Yankee Anti-Zombie Survival Manual, it gets right down to facts, 101 rules to save your self and family. This Russian has seen and smelled TSHTF in his own country. Only experience can be transferred. Read and survive. Your brain is your greatest asset, use it with the information provided.

        • Night Breaker

          Downloaded that on amazon a month ago will get to reading it soon ,
          All information by those that have lived is useful.
          Learn by other peoples trials and mistakes.
          Some day it will all be our time.

          Semper Fi 8541

      36. White Fox

        Had extra cash, bought more Silvertowne AG bars due to the influx of sickly illegal aliens and the ebola outbreak and for investment. Hope everyone had a good July 4th.


      37. southside

        Just before mid-term elections,Justice Ginsburg will resign from the Supremes. This will enable more progressive Justice to replace her. Harry Reid will run nominer thru Senate in record time. This will be Obama’s insurance policy in case Dems lose the Senate. Be aware of what will happen before/after the mid-terms.

        • DaisyK

          I don’t agree. Ginsburg enjoys her power too much to resign.

          Besides, no one is more liberal than she is. Liberals want her to resign because she is old and they think she will die soon. She thinks she will live forever.

      38. Gonetoolong

        Something must be going to happen soon because I am starting to think maybe it’s not. America just keeps chuggin’ along. Maybe we are that damn resilient.

        • RickInOregon

          The only thing I know for sure that’s going to happen is that I’m going to get older. Because I believe that the system is corrupt and manipulated and I’m not a player in it, I can’t plan on having financial security as I get older so while I’m able I’m readying my property to help feed us, supply us with some remedies for ailments, have on site fresh clean water and I’m reading, doing and learning about living with a small footprint. I can’t do anything about the big world, I try to stay informed but at the same time detached from it’s craziness. Letting it get to me will not add to the quality of life and it will steer me away from what I need to do.

      39. Ugly


        Sorry for my poor prose. I read Edgar Allen and Alfred too much in early days. But my sorry start does have a happy ending. Remember, as the collapse continues it will be the USA that suffers most because very simply we have spent the most and have a debt unequaled to anyone.

        We have no idea of what poor and warfare really is. I know I don’t and I don’t want to see it. I think we will be seeing it. I wish everyone that is trying a very good luck in future. We can learn from everyone, thus have an open mind and be friendly. Good luck to all….

        • Warchild Dammit!

          Ugly,reminds me of argument I always get into,I say racism is a inborn survival trait,we have for 1000’s of years belonged to different clans/tribes/regions ect. and the threat of invasion/war/rampage always a possib ility among different folks.That said,it is how you deal with the trait that decides whether you are a asshole or just a survivor,you feel you are superior to others due to ethnicity/religion/economic status ect.,well,you suck in my book.While folks of different backgrounds always wary of each other they have also worked together/traded/shared a meal and drink/intermarried ect.,the racist survival gene still there,that said,you can work with others and learn you can trust em.

        • Shootit

          We will suffer the most… because we have the most to lose.

      40. Facebook Page

        Why me

      41. Da Yooper


      42. Stewpedaso

        Here is another survival tip. At least for Northerners. The round Gobi is edible, gross you say? They are ugly, slimy and oddly squishy. But…they are invasive so no one cares if you take them, there are alot of them in a small area, and they are very aggresive. In a half hour I caught enough to feed three people with one worm and little to no effort. I clipped the heads and fins and dipped them in egg wash and some herbed up cornmeal and deep fried them like I would smelt…tastes just like Perch. Don’t let prejudice kill you, there are many invasive species in North America that deserve a second look and if worst comes to worst there’s always ketchup.

      43. SCTV

        This may be off topic but,
        1st point in my area we had a SHTF this last week.
        A foot of rain flooding out roads and destroying crops in my province. We had roads closed all around us and people being evacuated. Now the military is on the ground setting up sand bags and assisting in preparations. 5 miles from us there is still sand bags being stacked. The bank machines were very busy and were restocked over and over with lineups. The grocery stores did not completely empty but many shelves were cleaned out AFTER the flooding. I spent a day fixing my roof then cut the grass. Glad that I had a 4 wheel drive with good tires because the roads were impassable in some places due to washouts and I had some family that were stuck at home.
        Who could plan for this? S$%t happens.
        Funny thing is most of us locals shrugged and got to work. Many people who are immigrants or from the communist parts of Canada (British Columbia or Ontario) they were asking for government assistance. These people are the ones who are going to invite in the government when it is a problem that can be handled locally.
        2nd had a visit with someone who works in the higher echelon of commerce, had several long chats with her that left me not very comforted. The business that her husband runs is an investment firm with offices across Canada. I will not tell you their clients but I tell you that you probably buy their products. After talking I realized she knows more about things going on than most of what any of us here talk about. If a person on the street talked to her she would sound paranoid and crazy. The reason I mention is that If she is aware of what those of us here are and is researching everything and then some maybe there is something to what we are doing. When I see something coming and try to prepare for it, and I am a just dumb truck driver, is important enough for a major investment company to keep tabs on this makes me take notice.
        3rd my Wife put up a dozen batches of strawberry jam this week. I love to foam skim.

      44. SCTV

        I meant to say eat the foam skimmed from the jam just before the jam is put in the jars. If you can then you understand.

        • PO'd Patriot

          I knew exactly what you meant.

          • buttcrackofdoom

            so did I.

            • Babycatcher55

              Me three…

        • Paranoid

          Relax, We are the old bunch, we know what you ment. The people that don’t better get moving. They have a lot to learn and likely not to much time to do it.

      45. VRF

        h t t p://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/07/06/police-2-officers-shot-in-suburban-denver-no-word-on-conditions-suspect-in/?intcmp=latestnews

        h t t p://news.yahoo.com/indiana-police-officer-found-fatally-shot-patrol-car-180453769.html

        is there a score getting even?
        Is this Punishment?
        cleaning up a dirty force?
        Is it a cop?
        did some bad boy piss off another bad boy?
        has the party begun?

      46. VRF

        every 98 minutes

        seriously ridiculous talk about out of control, and no rights activists is getting their ass dug in deep over this

        cant keep pushing and expect nothing in return

        h t t p://www.wnd.com/2014/07/police-take-horrific-action-every-98-minutes/

        • VRF

          WND has reported several cases of police shooting pets in recent years, including an incident Feb. 8 in which an officer in Filer, Idaho, was captured on video killing two Labradors.

          Rosenthal said he and his wife are forming a new organization called the Voice for Animals, a nonprofit that will take on and litigate some of the most egregious animal shootings.

          “To the extent we are able to find local counsel we are open to going after some of these police departments,” he said.

          Well its about time someone stepped up to the plate for these dogs..any time you hear of any other existing animal rights groups say they are the voice of all animals ,, remind them that they have had their heads up their asses for way too long , and someone else stepped in to do their work for them.

          • VRF

            ht t p://www.dogmurderers.com/

          • JRS

            What would be your natural reaction if you were being attacked by a dog?

            Mine would be to stop from being bitten any way possible.

            Well, sure, as long as the dog isn’t a “canine officer”. The LEOs here just got a “law” passed that any effort to get their attack dogs to stop biting will get you a three year stretch for assault. God forbid you kill one…that’s murder of an officer.

            How come I can’t just off em for “feeling threatened”? The hypocrisy runs deep. The mindset that their dogs are more important than someone else’s dog is sickening.

            • VRF

              One tactic many people don’t know, and it has to be administered very sharply and with purpose..no pussing out

              one good hard knee to a dogs throat will stop the advance and open any of their mouths
              maybe only for a moment , some will flee..the way aggressive type will come back for more, but this tactic opens the window to your next move, and gives you time to make that move

              cops need to be trained on how to deal with all animals and quit being such pussies abut it

      47. Be informed

        7.1 EARTHQUAKE IN MEXICO JUST LIKE FORECASTED ON COMMENT 3172186, JULY 4 AT 9:00 AM ON THE CLOWARD-PIVEN ARTICLE. Said Mexico was in the red zone for a danger of an earthquake, probably 7+.

        This proves again that earthquakes can be accurately predicted using past records to forecast the future. This area in the southern Mid Atlantic Ridge at about 49.1 south by 8.3 west, whenever it gets active, 100% in the past has lead to a major earthquake within 15 days, most of the time 7+. It has still yet to fail to be a perfect precursor indication of this.

        The other areas mentioned in the comment still remain dangerous, especially New Zealand until July 20, or until other precursor earthquakes show different.

        • Anonymous

          Was hoping you would post on that….when people ask me about earthquakes…I say, wait and let me go check with BI on SHTF….:)


      48. VRF

        We are all soldiers in a cold war provoked by our own government .. no matter its form

        • posseecom


          Appears the battle lines for the cold war are mounting on the border(s)..

          Feds sending in riot troops(Brietbart confirms) against the protestors..

          Now law abiding citizens exercising their 1st amendment rights now face federal riot troops while protesting against illegal lawbreakers(immigrants and government combined)..

          Man this country is duly fucked beyond all reason.


          • Poon Tang

            We must ask ourselves, what sort of government does this to it’s own people? One that needs to be removed, obviously. The sooner, the better.

            • VRF

              yep, that be the one

      49. Be informed

        China will no longer be pushed around by anyone. This year China is suppose to surpass the US in GDP and become number one. There is a massive amount of undeclared money that goes into the military of China. It would ONLY take 5% of the Chinese GDP to easily outspend in raw dollars what the U.S. spends on military. Coupled with the fact that the U.S. spends a lot of the militray money on salaries, this shows China is and has become a super power that is more dangerous to the survival of the U.S. than Russia.


        By the way Mac, did you like what I sent you about 50 signs of trouble for the human race?

      50. Night Breaker

        Night Breaker says:
        Comment ID: 3174147
        July 6, 2014 at 9:36 am
        I think the whole plan is to generate unrest by using illegal immigrationas the focus, ever hear of la raza and the reconqesta ?
        Matt Brackens scary enemies foreign and domestic is coming eerily true.
        We are seeing hidden in plain sight the beingings of a false flag event.

        In the days that come much more may happen until we reach the breaking point .

        Prepare not a whole lot of time is left, practice your plans , I just returned from a 3 day simulated bug out , learned a lot 1 day egress , 1 day , 2 night stealth camp , I day patrol return in the dark with NOD’s , 4 man team .

        night time operations leave at 2:00 to 3:00 Thurs am to rally point ( RPAlpha ) commo code CXP
        (RPAlpha compromised) proceed to RPBravo , unidentifieds in RPAlpha
        3:00 am RP bravo team members identified by glint tape with NOD’s when approaching position
        Counter password authenicated.
        3:30 am proceed to BC1 ( base camp / hide 1 ) raining . Maintain 10 yard separations in the treeline use of ranger eyes on boonie hats allows following from the main in lead ( point) , pass to the west of a large lake reach designated waypoint WB turn west 4 miles in a southerly direction to the heavy wooded side side of a 4 lane highway 3:45 am getting to early twilight, cross road 1 at a time no traffic . Move farther south between two highways running north south staying in the heavily wooded 300 yard wide median , Proceeding to BC2 3.5 miles to the south , BC 2 is a point in the median above the grade of the roadway approximately 30 feet higher that he road and densely wooded , set up hasty camp it’s now light , string low Multicam tarps (2 10×7 slung low 18″ above group pinned with tent nails and bungee cords)
        With space blankets under , set up OP , Obsevation posts on each side 25 yards west and east with radio on stand by mode call in every 40 min. One sleeps , one in BC 2 monitors commo , in the hasty camp , assign watches 2 on 2 off. Cold camp no fire or cooking each person packs sleep Gear before standing watch . 20:00 day 1 up camp proceed west Cross 4 lane southbound road as before radioing when clear raise allows to see 1 mile clear in each direction. 2 across vehicle spotted slowly approaching position warning given 2 on opposite west side go deeper into cover 100 yards lay prone. 2 of us on the raise go back 10 yards into dense brush pop on ghille shoulder cover observe with monocular police car slowly driving on shoulder spot lighting west side of road . From the elevated position have a really good view out of cover . Car stops officer exits car listens . Returns to car and leaves. We cross a few min. Later . Hike into the heart of the forest west till 04:00 stow NOD’s set up BC3 operational base camp in a position 10 miles from BC 2.

        To be continued …….

        Semper Fi 8541

      51. River Rat

        Keep your ear to the wind, because the 2nd shot heard around the world is about to be fired.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!

      52. Night Breaker

        Simulated Bug out AAR, cont’d

        BC3 set up a as a temporary camp same as BC2 rest for 4 hours proceed west to point OBX.
        Set up permanent camp in densely overgrown region 50 yards from a small stream. Hang the Clark Jungle hammocks in a diamond pattern with the center area clear , establish op at each point north and south of OBX. Common area will be used for minor duties , commo etc. , food preparation done 50 yards east of the camp to prevent attracting animals , all refuse will be packed out , latrine area 100 yards west of camp established on reverse grade from stream all waste to be buried . Rain clearing out . Tarps suspended above hammocks keeps the area dry below , freeze dried food and food items hoisted above ground with paracord into the trees and cammo’ed.
        Rest of the day was working on filtering water , preparing camp gear etc , setting up ir beacons For NOD’s when leaving the camp for personal reasons. .
        Radio checks with Actual on progress.
        Watches set up for night enjoyed a relative good evening the sound of distant fireworks added to the atmosphere for the training. The sight was chosen from USGS maps for its location two raises 60′ in elevation separated by a ravine with a small Spring fed stream between. The area was very isolated with the sides of the stream bordered by dense cedar trees for concealment .
        The exercise was to build an operational concealed base camp for patrolling and moving at night.
        Morning day 3 return each individual breaks camp and leaves at diffent intervals and direction to return to prospective home locations. Exercise completed .

        To be continued ……

        Semper Fi 8541

      53. Jack Hammer

        In the words of Al Bundy….”Let’s Rock!”

      54. BigB

        Well it’s has been nice spending the 4th of July weekend with you folks. But alas work is calling and I cannot play with you good folks for awhile. Take care and God Bless.


      55. Socrates

        I think this article by Michael Snyder is spot on.

        So many people (and corporations) *know* the global bottom is going to fall out, but keep plodding on, hoping the music doesn’t stop playing till they get a seat. I’d say that is denial, at best. Looks like they won’t be playing the ‘denial game’ in China much longer though, the chickens have come home to roost. The U.S. is next.

        “This Could Be The Last Straw” 90% Of China Loan Guarantors Bankrupt
        (from ZeroHedge site)

        In Wenzhou – dubbed the capital of China’s private businesses – nearly 90 per cent of loan guarantors have failed since the start of the credit crisis arising from the underground banking system, according to the media. As SCMP reports, although their services are critical for the economic system and the millions of small firms – that provide the majority of the mainland’s jobs – hundreds of loan guarantee groups are creaking under the weight of bad loans and are simply unable to bear any more. “It could become the last straw that breaks the camel’s back,” exclaims the head of a local law firm, “without the privately owned small businesses, China’s economy won’t have a future.” But PMIs are up so everything’s fine?

        As The South China Morning Post reports-
        Mainland loan guarantors have found themselves ensnared in the woes of the underground banking sector following a fresh wave of bankruptcies around the country.

        Creaking under the weight of bad debts, hundreds of guarantee groups would be unable to bear even more, although their services are critical for the economic system and the millions of small firms that provide the majority of the mainland’s jobs.

        “It is by all means a risky business,” said Wang Xiao, a Zhejiang entrepreneur who invests in a loan guarantee business. “An increasing number of loan defaults will soon force us to close down the business.”

        In Wenzhou, nearly 90 per cent of loan guarantors have failed since the start of the credit crisis arising from the underground banking system, according to the media.

        The city, dubbed the capital of China’s private businesses, had pinned hopes on the companies offering capital guarantee services to bail out troubled small companies when Beijing allowed it to legalize the underground banks.

        “It could become the last straw that breaks the camel’s back,” said Yan Yipan, the head of law firm Zhejiang Panyuan, which mainly deals with cases related to financing. “Without the loan guarantee services, it will be more difficult for small companies to do business.”

        Rampant loan-shark schemes in Wenzhou resulted in the collapse of the city’s economy, with dozens of underground banking operators and investors either committing suicide or fleeing the country.

      56. VRF

        Seems so well planned and orchestrated , doesn’t it?

        HR 7311 (12/2008)

        …the care and custody of unaccompanied alien children in the United States shall be the responsibility of the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Sets forth related provisions respecting:

        (1) notification of, and transfer to, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS);
        (2) age determinations;
        (3) safe placement;
        (4) legal and child advocate access;
        (5) immigration status adjustment and asylum protections; and
        (6) assistance eligibility.

        Authorizes the Secretary of Heath and Human Services to award grants to, and enter into contracts with, voluntary agencies to carry out such responsibilities.

      57. VRF

        Illegal immigration is breaking a Federal law ! One that our so called law makers ( Congress ) passed into law . The President and Congress should see that these laws are enforced through the chain of command . It is the responsibility of the law enforcement agencies to enforce the law . The law is the law, no matter if it is Federal or State . It is to be obeyed . Yes , illegal immigration is a Federal law so is paying Federal income taxes . Why should one be enforced and not the other ? The law should not discriminate between people and circumstances ! I would say this is a dereliction of duty by the President , members of Congress and grounds for dismissal

      58. Night Breaker

        AAR cont’d

        Lessons learned :
        Communications essential to team movement especially in the dark , use of short codes and proper radio procedure limited to essential commo traffic. In a hostile environment only recieve mode to be active unless communication essential to the mission .

        Proper use of mapping and land navigation skills to determine the most effective route based on elevation and terrain data acquired from USGS maps with alternate routes determined in advance .

        Allow more time than planning indicates to reach objective way points which become more critical in emergency conditions or due to inclement weather conditions. Practice sheeting watches .

        Pack weight has to be reduced to allow more effective movement. Pack only what is required to support your designated scenario . Keeping packs streamlined without multiple molle pouches allows for more effective and quit movement. Re-evaluating equipment packed , i.e. snugpack jungle bag vs poncho liner.

        Use of NOD’s requires practice , but the ability to see and travel in the dark is defiantly an asset.
        Major point of the exercise was nocturnal land navigation , training points out the strengths and weakness of the team.

        Use of concealment in setting up hasty camps and operational camps which are required for post SHTF use. Clark jungle hammocks performed admirably kept all dry.

        All training applications applicable to post SHTF patrolling and active evasion of OPFOR ,
        Gaining experience into field living under mobile conditions. Food , water purification , etc. Use of alcohol stoves for heating / purifying water

        All people should rehearse you bug out plans they do not have to be as elaborate as this exercise but should reflect the reality of what could occur gaining valuable experience could save a lot of suffering in the future .


        Semper Fi 8541

      59. VRF

        h tt p://news.yahoo.com/obama-highlights-push-better-skilled-teachers-164358956.html

        h tt p://news.yahoo.com/nea-wants-duncans-resignation-162004796–politics.html

        rats leaving another ship of fools

      60. RooBear

        Multiple surveys have shown that, in general, almost everyone dislikes congress in general. The problem lies with the fact that those same people, in general, believe that THEIR congressman is the exception. This type of thinking by the american voter MUST stop before any real change can happen!

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