16 Signs That Most Americans Are NOT PREPARED For The Coming Economic Collapse

by | Apr 9, 2014 | Emergency Preparedness | 354 comments

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    This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.

    Disaster-Is-Coming-300x300Sometimes I think that I sound like a broken record.  I am constantly using phrases such as “get prepared while you still can” and “time is running out”.  In fact, I use them so often that people are starting to criticize me for it.  But the truth is that only a small percentage of people out there are actively taking steps to get ready for what is coming.  Most of the country is not prepared at all.  In many ways, it is just like 2007 all over again.  There were many people that could see what was about to happen and were doing all they could to warn people, but most did not listen.  And then the great financial crisis of 2008 struck and millions of people lost their jobs and their homes.  Unfortunately, the next great wave of the economic collapse is going to be even more painful than the last one.  It is imperative that people get prepared for what is on the horizon, but for the most part it is just not happening.

    A lot of it has to do with the fact that we have such short memories and such short attention spans in America today.  Thanks to years of television and endless hours on the Internet, I find myself having a really hard time focusing on anything for more than just a few moments.  And we are accustomed to living in an “instant society” where we don’t have to wait for anything.  In such a society, we are used to “news cycles” that only last for 24 hours and very few people take a “long-term view” of anything.

    And another one of the big problems that we are facing is something called “normalcy bias”.  The following is how Wikipedia defines it…

    The normalcy bias, or normality bias, refers to amental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

    Over the past several years, the U.S. economy has been relatively stable.  And that is a good thing.  But it has also lulled millions upon millions of people into a false sense of security and complacency.  At this point, most Americans consider 2008 to be a temporary bump in the road, and most assume that the U.S. economy will always be strong.

    Unfortunately, that is not the truth.  As I have written about previously, the long-term trends that are destroying our economy have continued to get worse since 2008, and none of the problems that caused the last financial crisis have been fixed.

    We are steamrolling toward the edge of an economic cliff, and most people in our entertainment-addicted society are totally oblivious to what is going on.  So they are not doing anything to get ready for the immense economic pain that is coming.  The following are 16 signs that most Americans are completely unprepared for the coming economic collapse…

    #1 Could you come up with $2000 right now?  According to a shocking study that was just released, most Americans could not

    Forty percent of individuals in the U.S. said they could not or probably could not come up with $2,000 if an unexpected need arose, according to research by Atif Mian of Princeton University and Amir Sufi of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.

    #2 In that same study, Americans were asked the following question…

    “Do you have 3 months emergency funds to cover expenses in case of sickness, job loss, economic downturn?”

    An astounding 60 percent of people that responded said that they do not.

    #3 Another study found that less than one out of every four Americans has enough money stored away to cover six months of expenses.

    #4 Some people are actually trying really hard to get ahead, but admittedly that is really tough to do when we are all being taxed into oblivion.  In fact, it was reported this week that Americans now spend more on taxes than they spend on food, clothing and housing combined.

    #5 Right now, more Americans are dependent on the government than ever before.  In fact, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, 49 percent of all Americans live in a home that currently gets direct monetary benefits from the federal government.

    #6 It is estimated that less than 10 percent of the entire U.S. population owns any gold or silver for investment purposes.  That is a stunning number.

    #7 It has been estimated that there are approximately 3 million“preppers” in the United States.  But that means that almost everyone else is not prepping.

    #8-16 The following are nine more statistics that come from a survey conducted by the Adelphi Center for Health Innovation.  As you can see, a significant portion of the population is not even prepared for a basic emergency that would last for just a few days…

    • 44 percent don’t have first-aid kits
    • 48 percent lack emergency supplies
    • 53 percent do not have a minimum three-day supply of nonperishable food and water at home
    • 55 percent believe local authorities will come to their rescue if disaster strikes
    • 52 percent have not designated a family meeting place if they are separated during an emergency
    • 42 percent do not know the phone numbers of all of their immediate family members
    • 21 percent don’t know if their workplace has an emergency preparedness plan
    • 37 percent do not have a list of the drugs they are taking
    • 52 percent do not have copies of health insurance documents

    What do you think is going to happen to these people once the economy collapses and there is chaos in the streets?

    How are they going to survive?

    After all of these years of writing about the coming economic collapse, nothing has changed as far as the long-term outlook is concerned.

    We are still heading toward a complete and total economic meltdown.

    But most Americans continue to have faith in the system, and the mainstream media keeps assuring them that everything is going to be just fine.

    And in this “dumbed-down” society of ours, most people are perfectly content to let others do their thinking for them.  In America today, only one out of every six Americans can even find Ukraine on a map of the world.  That is how far we have fallen.

    In this day and age, it is imperative that we all learn how to think for ourselves.  The foundations of our society are crumbling, our economic system is failing and the blind are leading the blind.  If we do not learn to make our own decisions, we are just going to follow the rest of the herd into oblivion.

    In addition, we all need to start taking a long-term view of things.  Just because the economic collapse is not going to happen this month does not mean that it is not going to happen.  When you step back and take a broader view of what is happening, it becomes exceedingly clear where we are heading.

    Sadly, most Americans will never do that.

    Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.



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      1. Those afflicted with the “Normalcy Bias” are the ones who look like zombies when even a temporary SHTF happens.

        • Most Americans ain’t prepared for a daily job.

          • That’s because they are a bunch of lazy faggots!

            • And don’t forget the Millions of Lazy Foreign Faggot Occupiers!

              • “”And don’t forget the Millions of Lazy Foreign Faggot Occupiers!””

                I assume you speak of the 536 plus their minions, flunkies, and other drains on society.

                “illegal aliens” are not lazy, they are just not taxable and that’s why they want to give them US citizenship, as if that is something special.

                • These folks from south of the border are smart,,, TPTB just assume they want to be US citizens,,,
                  why buy the cow when you get the milk for free!
                  who are the free people now I wonder???

                  • Should anyone be surprised? Like Michael says 99% of the people don’t prepare for anything. One just has to look at all the dark homes after a blackout at night. These imbeciles don’t even have candles. I mean come on, how much do candles cost? Those little LED lanterns are not very expansive, and with a pack of D batteries can last 300 hours. People don’t even have any light, so can you assume there is anything in the cupboards.

                    The shear stupidity of not preparing even for a lack of electricity is something to behold. How much does it take? Then these cretins expect that the electronic phantom world of numbers is going to make sure that their “nest eggg” is safe. It is indeed a sure sign of the decay of common sense and the chances of humanity reaching 2020 still intact. Look for Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, even Pakistan for all this to start, one or more of these places.

                  • I was watching some programs on how future generations are going to thrive and how these characters were talking about things just as “normal” as they have been for the past 60-70 years. Plenty of jobs, plenty of energy, plenty of everything. It was not even a propanganda driven BO type of garbage. These people are absolutely confident that nothing is going to happen to change anything for the worse for 200 years or more.

                    I started to think about just what Michael’s article is about. Should I or anyone else have any confidence that humanity is on the right course, or any confidence that humanity can last much longer on the present course of self destruction?

                    The planet ONLY has so much room for one thing. You can only grow so much food, there is only so much arable land. It is a well known fact that when ANY species reaches too many, disease breaks out, hard core disease. Look at Ebola recently, AIDS. all sorts of antibiotic resistant super bacteria. This is the way nature works. 8 billion? 10 billion? Where does Mother nature say stop?

                    The countries of the world are more armed now per capita than anytime in human history. This is partially due to the stockpiling of missiles by every country that is afraid of war. The military machines is down in Europe a lot, but in the Middle East, Russia, China, much of Asia it is up. Also the nuclear weapons are up, thnaks to China mostly. Not to forget North Korea that has mounds of uranium that it can make uranium nukes by the boatload. Israel, Pakistan, India to add this into the mix, and probably Iran with a few. All very unstable locations.

                    Derivatives. What are they up to 2 or 3 quadrillion now? That is 2000-3000 trillion. The total income of all countries put together doesn’t equal a fraction of this each year. Where does all this “funny” money go one day? What happens to the financial stability when this comes crashing down?

                    Energy. People can talk all they want about shale oil frozen in rock. This is extremely expensive to extract, and takes a lot of water, on top of the toxic disposal of it. The net energy gain is very minimum. While there is plenty of natural gas, oil based products still run the country. IF most cars ran on natural gas, then the energy issue would not be so catastrophic. IF the U.S actually had this secret oil reserves then why is the U.S. still importing 70% of their oil? The oil and natural gas journals and Department of Interior use this frozen oil in rock and sand as part of the oil reserves for the U.S. This is a misnomer. Liquid crude, dirty or sweet should be the ONLY number given as true oil reszerve. This oil shortage is a problem and why the U.S. is so interesting in the Caspian Sea region. A massive war to one day be fought right in Russia’s backyard.

                    Let’s not forget the toxic pollution that is killing the ecosystem from all the chemicals being dumped into the waterways. The kig of all of this is that spewing death spike known as Fukushima that has yet to be controlled at all. The idiot governments just keep raising the levels of “safe” radiation and other radiactive by-products that people can be exposed to and eat from the ocean.

                    One of the most tell-tale signs that humanity won’t reach much longer is the “stupidfication” of human beings. People use to have common horse sense. Just look at how grandma and grandpa use to have full pantries of food and other supplies. Look at how people use to eat. Now is it GMO processed frankenstein food full of chemical death. People are dumber now than when they were wearing loin clothes. People have fallen to the level of zombies, they just don’t get it. Simple rudimentry sense goes over their heads. 99% of the people don’t prepare. That 99% shows just where the world is going to, off the cliff to the happy elitists that want to thin the population to a few million people.

                    This is stark reality staring right in the faces of everyone that has the illusion that something catastrophic is not coming. Not just something that everyone recovers from in a few days or weeks. No a super series of MEGA SHTF events that takes decades, centuries, or longer to recover from, IF EVER. 99% of the people will wake up way too late to do anything about it. The 1% of those that did prepare are really the only chance for humans not go extinct like the dodo bird.

                  • This countrys policies have spoiled so many people w/ the free stuff that they raised a Nation thats more than half full of selfish takers.
                    Looking at the low info voters and those who dont get involved in politics we know that more than half our population is clueless. Ambivalence like this was manufactured.
                    I aint wasting much time worrying about unprepared idiots. Im spending my time trying to prepare for more important problems. The unprepared idiots will mostly go down by there own undoing. They got so lazy and complacent that theyll sit around and cry for help rather than help themselves. Not my problem.

                  • We will probably come to the conclusion

                    there is no help for most people.

                    Sad as that is, the folks that do get it

                    will become leaders in the world of the

                    helpless, just as it should be.

                  • IF CARS RAN ON NATURAL GAS.



                    Talk to the effing EPA or whatever. I researched that back on ’08. I WAS GOING TO CONVERT MY CAR. I could do it MYSELF for $800.


                    Almost ANY car can be converted… but then… IT’S NOT STREET LEGAL thanks SOLELY to the EPA. It’s not even a DOT crash safety thing!

                    So, any accident? You are financially toast.

                    I am telling you. It is cheap and easy to do it and you’d have overnight a huge number of small businesses popping up to do it.

                    And the EPA’s reason?

                    Because they have not tested emissions and THEY WON’T… they charge every kit manufacturer a humongous fee PER VEHICLE MODEL to prove it and get listed with them. Also known as protection money…

                  • “”Where does all this “funny” money go one day? What happens to the financial stability when this comes crashing down? “”

                    It doesn’t exist, so it will go nowhere. It’s all on paper, and there will be a massive paper default. All of it is private paper, even the so-called “governments”.

                    There are a limited number of FRNs, so they will have value for a short time afterwards. Then, the banksters will direct their “government” to issue a new kind of dollar and swap you 10 old ones for one new one, thereby stealing the remaining wealth of those who do not have silver or gold or other commodities not reliant on the money scams for value.

                    The banksters maintain control over the money, so they care what it looks like.

                    Our job is to stop that BEFORE it happens. The how is a mass scale refusal to pay the bogus debts in FRNs and bust them before they bust the People.

                    Too many do not realize the scope of the fraud, and how simple it is to destroy simply by refusing to take part in it. And if you have been victimized by borrowing “credit”, kill the fraud by not repaying what can not Lawfully be lent in the first place.

                    Tell the banksters to F off, and they will be forced to.

                  • after this collapse happens and lets say many millions of people are dead, would love to someday look back on this and all meet somewhere and see the real people face to face who did prepare and resisted and all the stories on how they did and how many people were in your group or people stopped.

                • On the news recently, they stated that about 80 deaths had occurred in West Africa, as a result of EBOLA. This is no ordinary disease! Stephen King, king of horror stories, said “The Hot Zone” (true story about Ebola) was the scariest book he ever read!…

                  Yesterday, they said the number had risen to 100 dead in west Africa from the disease AND one case in New York City, one case in Minnesota and one case in Canada. Its spreading! Now today they say its over 100 people dead, only one day later!

                  With all the scary stuff happening around the world, (what will we do if we have an pandemic of this stuff in the US??!), its rather ridiculous to be pointing fingers about minorities– whether gay or whatever. I dont particularly like gays either, but people, we better grow up or God will force us to… with horrors we have not seen in centuries!

                  • At the risk of ridicule from the ignorant, there is still time to learn to make colloidal silver so YOU and YOUR FAMILY will be protected.

                    Two rods, three batteries, a TDS meter, and a gallon or two of distilled water cold save your life.

                    Or you can remain defenseless….

                  • OK< sorry to be so late for this one. BI, once again, you and I are on the same page in the same book. How many times have we preached preparedness on this site? No telling how many more times we'll preach the same thing until the balloon finally goes up. Nonpreppers will be toast, no question about it.

                  • Anonymous, please read about vitamin D’s anti-viral properties. It’s so easy, safe, and cheap, there’s no reason not to take 5000 international units of vitamin D daily. I want my fellow preppers to survive every assault imaginable, and sadly a viral pandemic is more than just imaginable. It may be happening before our eyes.

                  • ebola is not highly contagious thru casual contact.

                    not unless the person is spewing blood out of orifices, which is how the virus continues on it’s merry destructive way.

                    so unless the virus has mutated significantly, the risk of contracting during the 12-20 day incubation period is low, and the risk to caregivers during the final stages is highest. Blood contact.

                • I can tell you right here and now.

                  If you’re not prepped you are toast. The decisions you make NOW when it’s easy and there is no reason to do it is going to determine your future.

                  The S just HTF for me personally. With my Dad’s health.

                  Preps for this contingency?


                  … I’m going to tread water until I sink, and sink I will I assure you.

                  My fault?


                  Prep now. This is like the “oh shit” moment for me let me tell you.

                  • Damn GUY. Been there, done that but with some funds. I’m very sorry you have to face this with no financial cushion. I am praying for your dad.

              • Lazy?….Think about it twice when you go to restaurants,bars,supermarket,carwash and next time you put in your mouth some veggies and fruits!

                • Another economic indicator…

                  Baltic Dry Collapses To Worst Start To A Year On Record

                  the worst start to a year since records began 30 years ago…

                  The last time we saw a year start like this was 2012 which saw massive concerted co-ordinated central bank easing in Q3 to save us all… it seems that is not coming anytime soon this time…


                  • Why is this important?

                    Baltic Dry Index: This little-known index shows the true strength of the global economy.

                    The Baltic Dry Index is the barometer that gauges the shipping dry bulk commodities around the globe.

                  • Thanks KY mom, people need to pay attention to the bigger picture, I’m afraid many have blinders on and only get ‘news’ or information from one place. One really needs to look around and diversify their inputs for data.

                    Some other important indicators that many may not be aware of (also on ZeroHedge)

                    Russia And China About To Sign “Holy Grail” Gas Deal

                    Russia’s Gazprom and China are poised to conclude a gas supply contract in coming weeks, the first in a series of energy projects planned between the two countries. “We’re working now to sign a gas contract in May,” said Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich. “Consultations are continuing and Gazprom’s leaders are holding talks with Chinese partners on the contract terms. We hope to conclude the contract in May and believe it should come into effect by the year end.


                    40 Central Banks Are Betting This Will Be The Next Reserve Currency

                    As we have discussed numerous times, nothing lasts forever – especially reserve currencies – no matter how much one hopes that the status-quo remains so, in the end the exuberant privilege is extorted just one too many times. Headline after headlines shows nations declaring ‘interest’ or direct discussions in diversifying away from the US dollar… and as SCMP reports, Standard Chartered notes that at least 40 central banks have invested in the Yuan and several more are preparing to do so. The trend is occurring across both emerging markets and developed nation central banks diversifying into ‘other currencies’ and “a great number of central banks are in the process of adding Yuan to their portfolios.” Perhaps most ominously, for king dollar, is the former-IMF manager’s warning that “The Yuan may become a de facto reserve currency before it is fully convertible.”

                  • Thanks KY Mom.

                    This is one of the primary indicators that I have long used to gauge the state of our economy. I must admit that I no longer look at any of these indicators as I am in the thought mode and have been for the last six months that a crash is imminent any day. It is a personal choice.

                    I have made the decision to no longer looks for the collapse of our economy only to prepare for it. It is, and has been for a long time, a house of cards just waiting for a slight breeze to topple it.

                    Furthermore I will simply state to my SHTF Plan family that I don’t care what anyone says or does from here on out to either think it will get better or that it will not be as bad as predicted. It is happening as the BDI shows and there is nothing, NOTHING, that can be done to reverse it.

                    For you new people to SHTF Plan you call me a kook and a doomsayer all you want. It don’t matter to me. For those who know me from this site over the years they know I am not crying wolf. I have every reason in the world to believe that the time for the big crash is upon us and that it is only a matter of a very short time before the end has made itself apparent to even the most ignorant.

                    I pray that each of you do whatever you can to get in a position to protect all that you hold dear in as fast a manner allowed by your circumstances. I know I don’t post as often as I used to but that is because I am trying very hard to make sure my stuff is in order. God Bless.


                  • Mom, I always enjoy your posts. Yes, the time is near. If you are a firm believer in Jesus Christ and study his word time is short. We also have nothing to fear. Easier said than done.

                    Last night I got into a fight on FB with someone trying to support Okillmecare. At first I thought she was reasonable and tried a little reason(truth)with her. Once she struck out with her 3 positions she started calling me names trying to place me in a “group”. Finally, she said I had no empathy or compassion for all those folks is Africa. “Huh”??? I left the argument with the fact I had being very giving to her. Giving of very valuable knowledge.

                    God have mercy.

                  • Socrates, BigB & Shootit,

                    I too can sense difficult times are ahead and the urgency to prepare. Each day is a gift, use it wisely.

                    Prepare spiritually, mentally and physically to face what lies ahead.

                  • KY Mom, thanks for the tip on Baltic Dry Index. I’ve researched it previously and the results really do tell a huge part of the story.

                • Anon, you hit it on the head, man! I told Gene if I call and say THE S just HTF!!! Stop at the nearest grocery with an empty parking lot, buy all the fresh fruits he can hold in the truck and head home–I have all the rest!! Thank you Jesus!!

                  • Ky Mom, we’ve already been in difficult times since 2008 and they’re only going to get MORE difficult. My prepping continues.

                  • One of the main reasons I planted a couple dozen fruit & nut trees on my property several years back was so we would continue to enjoy fresh fruits for a long, long time.


                • I AGREE WITH YOU ALMOST 100%, BE INFORMED. However, I wouldn’t put too much stock in stuff you “watched” on TV. The news media is there to convince people all is well, while they go about preparing for our demise.

                  I’ve seen what the young people are doing- they are NOT stupid– they know whats happening and they are preparing… I’m not saying they all realize that business will not continue as usual, but most do realize this and are preparing accordingly. Just last night, I was thinking, “its the young people who will survive’ and they should. We’ve had our time in the sun. No, they are not stupid (although there are exceptions).

                  • Convicted felon search website…

                    Just put in your address at the top of the form that appears and your neighborhood map will pop up. Every place you see a red balloon or thumb tack is the home of a convicted felon. Just hover your mouse over an icon & not only will the name come up, but also the crime they were convicted/charged with.


                • Then why is Mexico such a dump?

                  Because they’re also stupid.

                  You can fix lazy, you can’t fix stupid.

              • My Goodness, Dear! Do you speak such hateful filth in front of your children?

                • Aunt Kathy:

                  Just who are you pointing at and what does your post infer?

                  If you are referring to JayJay and her “thank you Jesus” comment, shame on you.

                  JayJay has more information in her little finger to share with SHTF than most people have in their head. And with your nasty swipe, I include you in that.

                  Aunt Kathy you will have a very rude awakening someday. If your swipe was about Jesus, the Bible says he just may tell you “get away from me, I know you not”.

                  Better have a “come to Jesus” moment in your life, it could be too late at some juncture.

                  Just sayin…..

                  • This comment is from Pissed Off Granny. Aunt Kathy’s snide remark sent my hurt fingers typing too fast……

                  • Pissed off Granny,
                    That is the exact comment that she has made a few other times on diffrent post and it made no sense on them . More then likely some troll trying to stir up things.

                • Not my Aunt Kathy:

                  Is your post to JayJay a swipe at the name Jesus Christ or just a swipe at JJ?

                  JayJay contributes important info to the SHTF community and does not deserve your swipe.

                  If the swipe was at Jesus, that is between you and Him. Not mine to judge, but the Bible does say come judgement day He tells unbelievers to get away fom Him, that He knew you NOT. I will leave it to you to find out what happens next.

                  • Hey, Pissed Off Granny, stop embarrassing Jesus. He feels uncomfortable enough as it is without you acting like his best pal.

                • Aunt Kathy, I think you should read the post more carefully before passing judgment on JayJay. I read it and didn’t see anything bad in it.

          • If the time comes when SHTF, I’m locked and loaded to get YOUR stuff America! >:-)

            • I usually don’t comment on stupid posts, but I have a 20 gauge single shot that stays loaded in the corner of the room I’m in with no one’s name on it.
              I can put Getcha on that shotgun shell as easily as any other–bring it, fool.
              I’m tired of all this ‘oh, I’m gonna get your stored foods; why should I prep’ shit.

              • My six .357 hollow point rounds can easily have JayJay on them too. >:-) Your shotgun might look nice in my arsenal. But I’m more of a 12GA guy.

                • Or you might get shot in the face by some kid with a bushmaster in the first 10 minutes!
                  There are no guarantees

                  • I doubt it. No one will see me coming and they’ll be lucky to hear the click from my trigger pull. >:-)

                • Oh, we have 12 gauge, HMR 17, 22s, lots of toys.
                  I just love the feel of my 20 gauge–it fits perfectly in my little short arms.

                  You are a fool talking. So, must be a fool walking.

                  • That was to Getcha, the fool.
                    Not you Kula.

                  • JJ, you almost sounded intelligent until your fool comment at the end and how you had to correct yourself. Just evidence that you’ll be easy prey for me! >:-)

                  • I know,,,:0)
                    Cant fix stupid and NOBODY is immortal.
                    These people like that will be among the first rotting in a gutter somewhere because they were too cocky.

                • Getcha, I also have a 12-GA. named “Bertha” and she’ll have some 00 buckshot waiting especially for a stupid mofo like you. Feel froggy? Go ahead, jump and get blasted!

                • 2 weeks worth of “long pork” AND a .357?

                  Yeah you know what, please come try to take my stuff. I would enjoy it thoroughly.

                  Wear nice boots too if you please. I could use a spare set. Thanks!

                • Actually you are mostly just another asshole. The only .357 you have is in a picture book.

                  • I thought I’d just report on something IMPORTANT…


                    Apparently, Mr. Bundy is fearing that he may have to die over this standoff with the BLM. This is undeclared martial law there in Nevada.

                    Where are those oathkeepers when we need them? They need NUMBERS out there to keep another WACO from happening.

                  • DAMN MODERATION—

                    I thought I’d just report on something IMPORTANT happening right now…


                    Apparently, Mr. Bundy is fearing that he may have to die over this standoff with the BLM. This is undeclared martial law there in Nevada.

                    Where are those oathkeepers when we need them? They need NUMBERS out there to keep another WACO from happening.

            • CATI IYCMF…

              • Funny. My thoughts, exactly.

            • Come and try you parasitic POS. I have a nice .357 waiting to tattoo your brains to the wall.

              • Confederate: Will you smite the unrighteous with your .357 like the good book says?

                • Whatever needs to be done will be done.

              • I think a .357 would be a little overkill for that tatooing, Johnny Reb. A single-shot BB pistol would be more than enough.

            • We will be locked and loaded waiting for ya!! Be wise, and just stay away!!

            • You sure are going to get stuffed!

            • Come and take it if you can Getcha.

            • Getcha, if you’re stupid enough to try that at my place, I will “getcha” with some 00 buckshot.

          • Some Americans, yes you’re probably right. The sad reality however is that a large portion of people want to work, they want to support themselves more than anything else, but the opportunities aren’t there.

          • Plus, people who didn’t watch planetary devastation need to.

        • That’s what happens when faggots take over the Boy Scouts, Military, and Government!

          • Sorry for the rant. I’m done, for now.

            • Iowa:
              Don’t be sorry YOU ARE CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              • Do you know why homosexuality is wron, because it is a sin! (there is still laws against “sodomy”)
                Do you know why murder is wrong, because it is a sin! (you took some ones life because you wanted to. Not in self defense.)
                At one time they were against the law.
                So If homosexuality (sodomy) is OK now. I say what next murder?
                God made these laws I didn’t. Like it or not!
                I wonder how may thumbs down I’ll get on this one. If I’m wrong I go to hell. If you are wrong you go to Hell!

                • Sgt Dale;

                  Faggots = GMO


                  • It’s so sad to see such hate from folks who call themselves Christians. Homosexuality is no more a sin that having a milkshake with your burger or working on sunday.
                    Don’t give in to the “Divide and Conquer” concept. During these challenging times (especially at my age) we need more to pull together as Americans. Isn’t that wht we come to this site?
                    God Bless.

                  • ant kathy

                    “Homosexuality is no more a sin that having a milkshake with your burger or working on sunday.”

                    Your full of shit on this one.

                  • And you wonder why with each passing day you are becoming more and more irrelevant to society. You are callous and filled with hatred. Christ preaches love and compassion and you preach the opposite.

                  • And it does seem a bit ironic the ones preaching about the morality of homosexuality are the same ones championing the war machine.

                • Sorry but both of you are wrong,people are born gay it’s not a choice.Why would someone choose to be gay knowing that it will be much more difficult than being straight ?

                  • That’s the biggest bunch of bullshit I’ve ever heard. You were born to be a fool and you have accomplished it. Fucking idiot!

                  • Nightshift.
                    I have to say B.S. on that Just ask my Ex-wife!

                  • Agree…If a person’s gay, whatever…just because that may be the case doesn’t automaticaly mean they wanna hit on you. To me, sexual discriminations on the same boat as racism. If you were deathly ill and bleeding out, and the only person that was around that had the know how to help was gay, what would you do? Also, i tend to equate religious biases with the Penis analogy. Stop acting like their ‘sins that send them to hell’ affect your chances. That hate in your heart aint good for your health, physically or spiritually.

                  • I AGREE, AUNT KATHY, but you have to admit, he does have a point… and it was kind of funny.

                  • Ant Kathy has been a lesbo all of her life. Leave her alone and so she wipe the glaze off her face.

                  • Aunt Kathy
                    Wrong! Sodomy is against the law in many States. They are old laws but they are still laws.
                    Sodomy is a SIN. God said so. If a woman has sex with another woman or a man has sex with another man it is SODOMY. That makes it a Sin and breaking the law.
                    What is next having sex with Children, Dog, Chicken or a Goat. Let us keep sticking our fingers into God Eye with all of these sins and let us see just how bad it can get. OH YAH SODOM AND GAMORA DID THAT, AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM bbboooooommm THEY BE GONE!
                    Why do you think this country is such bad shape. WE HAVE TURNED OUR BACK ON GOD.
                    Yes I’m a Christian. I don’t hate the sinner. I hate the sin. By the way take a look at 1Timothy 1-9 & 10. If you don’t believe in the bible you want to drink a lot of water now because you aint going to get any where you are going.
                    This above passage also has in it murders, kidnappers just to name a few. What I’m saying is if one out of this passage is Ok they all are ok to do.

                  • Just a bunch of homophobes,maybe you are attracted to men and are afraid to admit it.I know several gay people and one of them is my brother,he was 13 years old and had a stash of playgirls underneath his bed,so how do you explain that.

                  • I worked with a lesbian in a restaurant,her father used to rape here so who could blame her for hating men.

                  • The fact that your comment has this many downvotes is a testament to the ignorance of those who read it. For whatever reason, this website attracts some really scummy people (no, I’m not talking about everyone here).

                    People who think that God would bless a war machine but curse a person for being born a certain way. People who constantly spew racist invective and decry everything that is not them.

                    Homosexuality is as normal and natural as the Earth orbiting the Sun. Then again, Copernicus was hounded by the Church for asserting such a thing hundreds of years ago.

                    There are a lot of people who love quoting the Old Testament on here, preaching fire and brimstone, yet they seemingly totally forget the teachings of Christ. Christ taught love and compassion, which stands in direct opposition to your ignorance and hatred.

                  • Nightshift, no one is ever born gay. That is impossible. You’re just as wrong as Kathy. BTW, aunt Kathy, I LOVE having a milkshake on occasion, even by itself.

                  • nightshiftsucks,

                    Yep. I knew someone who was gay who said, “Why would anybody choose to be gay? It makes your life so difficult”. He used to go to church and pray and pray about it, but it didn’t help. Now, I could have told him that he was praying to Jesus who doesn’t exist, but he believed in him so what are you going to do?

                  • If people are born gay (i.e. it’s genetic) than how does it get passed to CHILDREN?

                    If it gets passed to CHILDREN by a genetic mutation, then, why don’t you call it what it is?

                • I wouldn’t worry about the “thumbs down”, Sgt. Too many trolls and Obamanites in here having fun! And, yes, you are right. The lines between good and bad have been blurred in the name of Tolerance, so now we get to pay the price for pleasing the flesh.

                  • Ezekiel 16:49 ASV

                    Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom: pride, fulness of bread, and prosperous ease was in her and in her daughters; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

                    Homosexuality wasn’t the only reason that Sodom was destroyed. We as the United states have homosexuality and pride and many other sins. Let’s not forget that. Note: I am 100% against the sin of homosexuality just like all the other sins.

                  • Me here, correct— tolerance and compromise–and I am guilty of both, in the church and out.

                  • Are you kidding,I understand whats going on and hate all politicians but I do not hate people for the color they were born or their sexual orientation.

                  • The fact that you assume people support Obama because they are decent people and treat everyone with compassion and respect is quite appalling.

                    Being a decent person is apolitical.

                  • So only people with Down Syndrome can have a kid with Down Syndrome? Only deaf people can have deaf kids? Seriously?

                • Sarge, good evening, and you’re right on target. [pun intended, what the hell?]

                • The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura regarding homosexuality, which was posted on the Internet…

                  Dear Dr. Laura:
                  Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination …. End of debate.

                  I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

                  1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

                  2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

                  3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness -Lev15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

                  4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord -Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

                  5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

                  6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

                  7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

                  8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

                  9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

                  10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

                  I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I’m confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

                  Your adoring fan,
                  James M Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus, Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education University of Virginia

                  (It would be a damn shame if we couldn’t own a Canadian.)

                  • don’t forget that if you find ur wife not to be a virgin you must execute her

            • Rant on !

              • What does being gay have to do with preparing for SHTF?

                What does it have to do with getting ready to fight for our freedom from the NWO?

                What does somebody else, somewhere else choosing to be gay on their own time, have to do with ME?


                I won’t be asking the freedom fighter next to me, if he/she is gay or straight, before I decide to crawl into the trenches and fight.

                This is the ONLY time I can thin of where Hillary’s words actually make some sense—


                • Sixpack:
                  Do you really think we would be in this bad of shape if we wouldn’t have turned our back on God.
                  Being gay/homosexual is one of the many things this country has done in turning your back on the God Almighty.
                  Just asking? I respect your comment. I agree but this is why we are where we are today.

                  • SGT– the Bible says to judge not that you be not judged. Sin is anything that takes you away from God. The moment you point your finger at someone who has to struggle over something which you know nothing about, not being gay yourself, you bring your own consciousness down–

                    I don’t like the thought of a gay life style either. But I have enough sense to realize I need to concentrate on my own short comings and not condemn others for theirs.

                  • Anon:
                    I wasn’t judging any one. I was just pointing out what the Bible said. Like I said I don’t hate the sinner I hate the sin.
                    It is my belief that if you don’t believe in the Bible, and Gods word. There is a very good chance you are going somewhere very hot. Or what ever Hell is. I didn’t say that, the Bible dose.
                    I had a wife that gave me some great kids, when she turned around 35 she started hanging around with a bunch of gay girls. She decided to experiment. 4 years later she left me for her girlfriend. Straight for 35 years then gay in less than 4 years. Her choice. Lost all the kids, her loss again, but she wouldn’t give up her girlfriend.
                    The Bible said homosexuality is a sin and a Sinner will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. The other place is Hell. I didn’t say it the Bible dose. I’m not Judging I’m pointing out what I believe, the Bible.
                    I will admit that I’m not perfect but I try my very best not to break the laws that are in the Bible. (New Testament)
                    Anon. Jesus even go Pissed and drove the change makers out of the Temple. It is time to stand up and say No to all of this crap, because all of this compromising is killing this country.

                  • So because I don’t believe in god that makes me a bad person ? Well god made me right and he made me imperfect so who’s fault is it ? Mine or God’s ?

                  • So the reason the financial world is collapsing is because God got his feelings hurt that some people in the world are gay? Talk about low self esteem…

                  • I don’t argue that Sgt, but not everybody sees it as a Biblical and moral issue. They mostly believe it to be quite normal for them, and I defend their right to choose for themselves, just as I expect to have the right to choose for myself.

                    Self-determination has to be the same for everyone, whether we agree with what they do with it or not…all or nothing.

                    The cold hard fact of the matter is, that not all gays are criminals or “bad” people. There are hard-working gays that are just as liberty-minded as the rest of us, the only difference being their choice of bed-partners…which is none of my damn business.

                    When the battle line is finally drawn, I won’t care who the guy next to me sleeps with. I will care only:

                    Is he willing to die for his freedom, like me?
                    What can he contribute to the group afterwards?
                    Is he trustworthy and dependable?
                    Will he/she have my six, if need be?

                    I’ve seen people say that they ONLY care about “like-minded” people. That’s very sad, because the idea of true FREEDOM, is not how we treat those who think like us, but how we treat those who think differently. Respect and Honor.

                    Diversity does not necessarily equal Adversity.

                  • No the people who have 6 children with as many different partners, never marry, and then expect the taxpayers to support their bastard ghetto child are a bigger part of the problem. Da baby momma and da baby daddy should be surgically sterilized after their first bastard ghetto child is shat into the world. After the child is born taxpayers are stuck supporting it, its six brothers and sisters from the crib to prison to the grave. From these people we get ghettos,crime and the desire to be supported for life on the tax payers dime.

                • THANK YOU, SIXPACK, my sentiments, exactly… as I posted above, with the planet on the verge of EBOLA pandemic, on the verge of economic collapse, not enough food (thanks to climate chaos) to feed our people here in US, on the verge of WW3, on the verge of an running out of energy (only 2 years left, approximately, til the unconventional fossil fuels run out), on the verge of so mannnnny catastrophies, what the heck does it matter what someone does in their bedroom?

                  • I

                  • Thank you Sarge, for having the GUTS to say that wrong is wrong. We live in a world where right is wrong and wrong is right. Don’t matter what any of our opinions are about gays, gay marriage, etc. What really matters is what Jesus Christ, our Lord’s opinion was.

                    Twist it, turn it, make it what you want to believe; wont change the truth of the Bible.

                    He has told us what would become of our great country when we decided that our “laws” would void His laws. Unless you aee blind, deaf, and dumb by putting aside His teaching that is where America is today.

                    All his teachings have been shoved aside; not just this subject. Why do you think America has gone to hell in a handbasket? It is because we have turned our back on Him. Someday, in the not too distant future we will all be on our knees begging him to return and to forgive us our ignorance. AND THAT INCLUDES ME….

                  • Can we park the Butt Bandit Bandwagon already?

                  • Sarge, that really hurt to hear about you getting betrayed by your wife to become something so unnatural. In 1990, I dated a girl briefly. I went to her house one day and walked in on her and her lesbian lover really going at it. I almost fell out. I turned around and got the hell out of there. I never even called the bitch again. I know the pain, Sarge, but in my case, there were no kids involved. So I still know where you’re coming from.

                  • Sorry, SGT– didn’t mean to offend… I didn’t realize the circumstances. I don’t think anyone would feel any differently than you under those circumstances… best wishes.

                • Thank you Sixpack

                • Sixpack:

                  Cant say I know any gays to be able to judge whether they would be in the trenches with me or not.

                  Just for starters tho, think these gays are on the same page as you and will be fighting the good fight?….

                  Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Shep Snith, Oprah Winfrey and her ‘buddy’ Gail, Ellen DeGenerate, Robin Roberts……

                  And the list goes on. Good American patriots ready to fight along side of you……I think not…..

                  • I wouldn’t jump into the trenches with any of those people, not because of who they choose to screw, but because of who they SCREW OVER…huge difference. Sorry you had to take it that way but you completely missed my point.

                  • The truth is a rare thing. Just because so many people don’t like it, doesn’t make truth less true. Nice post, BTW!

          • Iowa: You sure seem to be fixated on homosexuals today. Is there some troubling thing in your past you want to share with the rest of us? We won’t judge you.

        • Normalcy bias is so prevalent. True, so few have prepared.

          What to expect when SHTF…

          State of emergency in Buenos Aires, province overwhelmed by crime and an outbreak of lynching

          “The governor of Argentina’s largest, richest and most populated province declared a 12-month state of emergency following an outbreak of lynching by furious citizens who feel defenceless and ‘overwhelmed’ by crime. The situation has become a major political issue with magistrates and the Church calling for restrain.”


          • “””The situation has become a major political issue with magistrates and the Church calling for restrain.””””

            That’s because the magistrates don’t want to be lynched, nor the churches leaders who support their crimes.

            There will be lynching right here in the USA, but only because the people will have no other way to hold the criminals accountable.

            • GC and KY MOM..there will not be lynching here.
              Not till the ammo is gone and that’ll be a long, long time.
              Why waste good rope? 🙂

              • because it is a reusable resource…bullets you have to reload.

              • Rope is a Hassle, but the Visual of Lynching is worth the work..:-P

            • GC: Now that’s the Christian way, hanging them like they did to those witches in Salem back in 1692 sending them straight to hell.

              • We’re where we are because of Nixon.

                Well… actually we’re where we are because before Nixon, we bit off more than we could chew, and the post WW2 surviving countries are a bunch of ingrates…

                Gay? Meh whatever. It’s only a big issue when “I’m with stupid” trots out Dr. Frank N’ Furter to go have serious talks with Russia, just for the sole purpose of rubbing their nose in “it” (whatever “it” is) while having nothing to back his shit up with.

                Milkshake? ^^

                My milkshake runs all the boys from the yard
                When I’m like “they’re smaller than yours”
                Damn right, they’re smaller than yours
                I could show you… but I have these sores…

        • There seems to be no thought processes in some people.

          During the snow/ice storm that basically shut down Atlanta for a couple of days this past winter, on of the Evening News crews did a story on how this storm was affecting local people.

          They interviewed a woman who had a job but was stuck at home with her two kids, dressed very nicely, and was complaining that they had no power for heat. She also complained that they had no food because that roads were closed. She was feeding her kids potato chips as their “meal.” WTF!!!

          Then I got it. Her “man” shows up in the background wearing a track suit and looking like he just got of the bus of the “Boyz in the Hood” traveling circus. If this dumbass is stupid enough to hook up with a guy like that, she is stupid enough to watch her kids starve half to death and then complain about it. Stupid cow.

          Stop buying every meal at a fast food joint and learn how to cook. Your kids might have a chance to grow a brain if they get some good food in them.

          Buy some basic food to have around the house. You don’t need power to make a nice salad, and a back yard grill will cook with no power.

          Use your freakin’ heads.

          The MSM ought to be SHAMING dumb asses like that on national television, not running human interest stories on them.

          Rant over. Sorry.

          • the Tv makes a hero out of fattie Honey Boo BOo. And all the fast food commercials. We are growing a whole nation of sickly obese Tele Tubbies!

          • These are the ones we will watch die off: either slowly in a FEMA camp or quickly when they’re shot for looting. Darwin was right, so whether you believe in evolution or not, we will all soon witness the results. Only those capable of adapting will survive.

          • Stig, no need to apologize for your rant. that’s one of the things we strive for at this site. Excellent points. Even canned goods would provide a certain amount of nutrition and be cheaper in the long run than fast food. What do these people have for brains, fried eggs?


        • I think news stations have a department specifically for interviewing survivors of disasters. The interviews always start out the same way; “I never thought…”

          Face it, most of those people will die or will experience significant physical and emotional trauma. For many, it this is a conscious choice, like the decision to have or not have life insurance.

          They understand the risks and have agreed to take them. Of course, nobody will get on TV and say; “I knew I should have done something to prepare for this but I was stupid and selfish. I wanted to spend my money on entertainment and luxury goods. Those people will never change so why are we continually focused on it when we can’t do anything about it?

          “I spent most of my money on wine, women and song. The rest I just wasted!”

      2. More of the same ole same ole worn out message,warning cry wolf gloom & doom. At least its not another buy PM,s article. I think the can will keep being kicked down the road for ten years. I the Area where I used to reside there is a Chicken Rush. Land prices are skyrocketing. Everyone & his brother are going into big debt to build chick growing & egg laying houses. The two nearby towns one is getting a new chicken feed mill and the other a hatchery & processing plant. A thousand or more new jobs created. Its a economic boom. Try and convince those folks that a economic collapse is gonna happen any time soon ?

        • The economy continues to shrink by 4% a year. The dollar is dying. John Williams predicts panic selling of the dollar by the end of the second quarter of this year. Jim Willie predicts that the dollar will be dying by the end of the year. Sanctions against Russia are forcing them to dump the dollar for international trade. We’re going to see hyperinflation in America very soon. Most likely this year.

          • All good points and right on target. Only 33% of the world is now using the U.S. Dollar for trade. By the end of this year that figure will drop to less than 25%. Check out http://www.x22report.com or go to youtube and watch his videos. He does a daily report of the world’s economy and all the parts and pieces are put into place. He also covers what Obummer is doing and why to the U.S.

            The time for the end is drawing near.

        • I imagine it would be like asking a multitude of housing developers/buyers the same thing back in 2007, eh.

        • That boom is being helped by the trillion dollar yearly deficits which are clearly unsustainable.Who’s going to buy all those bonds once the federal reserve stops ? So either they stop printing and interest rates jump and kill any kind of a recovery or they keep printing and kill the dollar,it will happen a lot quicker than anyone thinks possible.

        • I have been having a hard time trying to get others on board with all the “crying wolf” that has been happening. Some of them are locked into the message that nothing can or will happen because, Hey we are America. However, I was one of those people that opened my eyes. Six years ago I found a blog that made sense to me. Even then they were predicting a few month things would collapse. Then a few months again. So, here it is six years later and still the same “coming soon” message. But you know, they may have the timing off by a few days, months, years, but it got this sheeple off his ass and opened his eyes to what is really going on. I will not be one of those rushing the stores trying to get my supplies when it DOES happen. I will not be one of those crying for government help when it DOES happen. I will not be one of those that cannot protect his/her family when it DOES happen. My family and I may not make it through, but it won’t be because we haven’t prepared ourselves. And honestly, we have a better life for it. We went from always buying our food from the store, to a garden that even my grandmother would be jealous of. We have learned how to preserve our foods. and have even gotten healthier because of it. When the power goes out, the solar panels keep the freezer running, along with the security cameras. I for one am glad the timing has been off. Had the collapse been right after I read the first wake up message six years ago, I would have been toast. Now, at least I have a fighting chance.

          • Your on the same page I’m on. I haven’t convinced my wife to go this route completely because she grew up and had everything provided. I married her as a young woman and she hasn’t had to prepare anything but is coming around. She wants to buy extra land for planting a large garden not G.O.O.D. property. We are building up our home and property and are investing in the hard assets we all want…Having spent several yrs in this effort it is finally paying off with her taking the prepping helm.

          • preppermo, welcome to our community and you’re in the right place. glad to hear that you woke up and started prepping. If we can help you with any survival-related topics, feel free to ask.

          • That’s quite astute and I feel the same with regards to the eventual destination although the time frame is in question.

            Think of our civilization as an aging dam. We have been filling holes in it with silly putty, each time we fill a hole a new one opens up (ie, bailing out wall street but not fixing the underlying issues within our economy).

            Eventually we won’t be able to keep up with all of the new cracks and the dam will break, and all of that held back energy will rush forth in fury until it finally settles.

            I’m not entirely sure what the world will look like when it does settle, but I know in the meantime I don’t want to be living downriver from the dam.

            To prepare is to acknowledge you recognize the danger. Whether it means buying some extra food in case you lose your job, preparing for the meltdown of a nearby nuclear plant and planning an evacuation, or simply being ready for severe weather.

          • mo:

            You nailed it brother.

            It takes more of a conspiracy theorist to believe that nothing bad can happen to America than it does to believe hard times are ahead. History is on our side.

        • Old Guy,

          The Dow Jones is flat for the year even with the massive amount of Federal Reserve stimulus being thrown at Wall Street to inflate asset prices.

          Unless the Federal Reserve announces a massive new round of Quantitative Easing soon, the Dow has run out of gas, and we may very well see a repeat of the events leading up to October 29, 1929.

          The corporate insiders selling everything behind the scenes while telling the street investors everything is A-OK. The clock is ticking.

          • My wife and I had two stock investment accts. and closed them both with good gain recently. Do we wish we had kept them,sure. We left some money on the table. But when everyone is saying buy, we sell. We knew it was time to sell while folks were still buying wallpaper. Will we go back in,no… the market is overvalued and soon will come down. We sold our previous home (2004) when the market was still going up and two yrs. later it crashed (2006)…

            • The problem is that if they keep printing then you need to hedge,do you have PM’s ?

        • from clues in your comment live nearby more of us know what is going on than you think

        • Those chicken and egg houses are now totally computerized and feeding and watering and climate control are all done by electricity. Backed up with a 48hr generator. If the grid goes down, even after a local tornado, those birds die in record numbers–seen it. Total loss some of the times, which produces economic hardship. Add that to our already economic hardship and it takes its toll.

          • All you have to do is open the doors the chickens will go outside and live, dump food on the ground.sheez.

            • If it can’t be done with an iphone, they just can’t do it nowadays…

            • They are breeds that grow fast and develope large meat breasts. If they are let outside, they overheat and die in just hours. Chickens that are farmed in chicken houses are not able to live outside of their controlled environment

        • It’s the same here in my little Wisconsin city. A big company is moving into town and bldg. a huge distribution center. w/300 jobs with it…A new high school is being built and no-one is prepping except approx. 25 people out of 4000 that I know of. We aren’t worried about the predictions of gloom and doom. We are prepping for our family’s survival not the neighbors…OPSEC not Normalcy bias. For me, doing any complaining would only appear that I was passing the blame or using an excuse to not do anything. I can’t speak for anyone else’s issues…

        • Old Guy,
          same ole worn out warning message might apply to the Chicken rush you speak of.
          All it would take is for the chicken producer like Purdue to pull out of its scheduled pick ups. Or they dont renew the growout contract. Then those farmers are faced w/ racked up debt to do that building and nowhere to peddle 10-50K worth of chickens.
          Think it wouldn’t happen? Been watching the FDA and its overreach lately? One new Exec Order would do it.

          • The grower builds the houses. The chicken processor furnishes the chickens feed electricity & LP. I know one guy owned 20 acres free & clear. paid 10 thousand dollars for it. Took out a contract and built two grower houses. They loaned him $20,000 extra for start up money. So he was already ten grand ahead to start. He heated his home and ran his tractor & pickup on the chicken companys LP. He stole chicken feed and fed to hogs. the hogs where pure profit. For ten years he never really paid down his debt. And suddenly a Mennonite comes along and pays $50,000 more than he owes. Believe it or not its a true story. The guys name is Darrell Mitchell and his chicken farm is & was located on HWY 231 in Randolph County Arkansas. He apparently was a successful schemer? The company building the processing plant is named PETCO. They are spending close to twenty million building feed mills, hatcherys & a processing plant. They aren’t going to just close up and leave the growers hanging. If they fail its all over anyhow so where is the kicker? Now myself I left that area. I don’t want to smell stinky chicken growing houses or drink water polluted fron the chicken litter. And Im a racist and don’t want to live around thousands of those little brown folks who come from south of the border.

        • Old Guy, where I live we have lots and lots of poultry houses, processing plants, feed mills and the whole nine yards. Unfortunatly, the only people that work there are the ones from across the border, they swarm to these jobs, which means your not going to get a job at one of these places unless your a translater.

      3. The biggest statistic is that only about 3% of Americans are prepared for an economic collapse. I estimate that only about 1/4 of preppers have enough food to last a year or longer.

        In big economic news, Russia’s biggest oil company, Gazprom, has announced that they will sell gas internationally in rubles instead of dollars. Expect that to happen more and more around the world in the coming months.

        • We have at least a couple years worth of food, enough cash to buy a few month’s worth, and yes enough PM to buy a few year’s worth because I’m not going to ignore the entirety of human history. I might not buy at today’s price, but I’m not going to convert it back to FRNs either.

          As for having six month’s expenses in savings, most of our expenses are conveniences. The house in town, gas heat, and other utilities have paid-for alternatives and even the Jeep we will be driving to the retreat is paid off.

          • That’s great. You probably have more food than 90% of preppers.

          • Good job. You can pay for your own Wi-Fi now.

            • That’s funny, I am designing WiFi in Queens NYC right this moment for Time Warner…
              They have alot of BMLOF…

              • Well eppe, maybe you can answer my question—As you probably know, every wifi router has a web page where you can switch “off” your wifi with a check box. My question is:

                When you use the web page to turn off the wifi, does that also turn off the actual signal from the router, or does it just remove the data from the web so the router can’t be seen by the web…know what I mean?

          • People that voted down Prepared Pastor, why did you do that? Just asking.

      4. Happy New Year America…..


        Happy New Year America

        Here is what happened on January 1st 2014:

        Top Income Tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
        Top Income Payroll Tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
        Capital Gains Tax went from 15 % to 28%
        Dividend Tax went from 15% to 39.6%
        Estate Tax went from 0% to 55%
        Remember this ‘fact;’ if you have any money, the Democrats want it!
        All these taxes were passed with only Democrat votes. Not one Republican voted to do these taxes. Remember this come election time. And make sure your friends and neighbors know this info too! These taxes were all passed under the affordable care act, otherwise known as Obama care.

        • Simply don’t pay for your enslavement. FUCK NULL AND VOID LAWS!

          • Who still pays taxes to the criminals?

            The only lawful tax must be collected in gold and silver coin. That is the Law. Everything else is a commercial fraud being perpetrated on the unwitting.

        • More control coming July 1, 2014

          HR 2847 – FATCA

          Delayed, FATCA will go into effect July 1, 2014
          This will make it nearly impossible for Americans to protect savings accounts.

          Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA)

          “FATCA is four years old but it is still being ramped up for its big worldwide rollout July 1, 2014. Foreign banks must hand over the details of American account holders … or face serious repercussions.”

          “With disclosures, prosecutions and summonses, the IRS is getting quicker, better and more complete information than ever.”

          “After foreign institutions identify U.S. account holders, FATCA requires the institutions to impose a 30% tax on payments or transfers to any who refuse to step up and get into full U.S. compliance.

          At first, Foreign financial institutions (FFIs) must report account numbers, balances, names, addresses, and U.S. taxpayer identification numbers. For U.S.-owned foreign entities, they must report the name, address, and U.S. TIN of each substantial U.S. owner.”


          “FATCA is one of the worst laws ever written. In addition to requiring yet more disclosures for US taxpayers who have foreign accounts, FATCA also mandates every foreign financial institution on the planet to share customer information with the IRS.”

          “But what most people don’t know is that FATCA contains an obscure, broadly-written provision that potentially turns every single US taxpayer into a government spy.

          You see, the law decrees that if a foreign bank or business does NOT comply with FATCA requirements, then everyone else in the financial system MUST WITHHOLD a 30% PENALTY on ANY PAYMENT TO THAT BANK OR BUSINESS.”

          • Too bad it doesn’t effect people like George Soros…

            • God has reserved a ‘special’ place for Soros.

        • @km well, you are wrong about no republicans voted for these “new” taxes. obamacare wouldn’t be LAW unless some republicans voted for it.

          • Democrats controlled both houses of Congress when Obamacare passed. Some of the Democrats got huge bribes in the form of aid to their states. Mary Landrieu was promised an extra $300 million in Medicare for Louisiana. Her bribe was called the “Louisiana Purchase”.

            • bc
              dont forget the cornhusker kick back

          • @ butcrack You sir are going to have to name even one republican that voted for obamacare. Check your facts.

            • Maybe he can pull one out of his butt….crack.

              • ok, i appologize for my mis-statement. i was thinking about the voting where the repubs could have blocked the funding of the gubmint last year….you are all right about republicans not voting for it….but they definitely could have blocked the funding of it and shut down the gubmint last year. and it was THAT IMPORTANT to get rid of it. they lied about every aspect of it, and it will bankrupt america(ns)if left to fester. it won’t WORK, because it CAN’T work. lies, it was built around lies…..and DAMNNN!, next time i will think twice before i mis-speak here! you guys didn’t give me a spankin’….you left me on the side of the road NAKED, and BLEEDING …from an ORIFICE….yikes…..sorryyyyy!

                • Forgiven

                • Yeah, BCofD, it’s hard to tell without a scorecard since every way we turn someone’s trying to screw, dems, repubs, or otherwise.

          • I didn’t write this article, I’m just passing it on as a warning!! I personally haven’t been in the left/right thing for years now!!!

          • Democrats controlled both the House and Senate when they passed Obamacare. Democrats get all the ‘credit’ for the disaster of Obamacare. Democrats were able to pass Obamacare with ONLY Democrat votes.

            • I don’t know about that– republipuke versus democrat thing– but I do know this: A coup occurred over our government when Bush/Cheny stole the white house and it ain’t been the same sense!

              Bush brought about the Patriot Act- the militarization of local police agencies, was responsible for the destruction of Iraq, which killed, maimed and destroyed life for millions of innocent people, and they took down the Clean Air and Water act, allowing corporations the right to poison our air and water.

              Obummer is equally dispicable, as he is INTENT on stealing our guns, which will facilitate the NWO. In short, BOTH PARTIES SUCK!!!!

              • regarding the passage of Obamacare – just check the voting records.

              • “The police aren’t arming themselves; they’re being armed– a give-away. This came with the Patriot Act– totally, patently Un-Constitutional…As I read the Patriot Act, I thought, “Oh, Holy Jesus! this is the Federal govt. taking over every police department in the country– and all that money! Tons of money started flowing in to local police agencys, but the deal was, every police department had to use a uniform computer system that the CIA and FBI could get into.

                It used to be if I ran a Sheriff department, the FBI couldn’t get into my computer. But now, with this software technology, the U.S. Gov’t. can not only get into law enforcement agencies’ computers, they can shut them down! Radio frequencies were synchronized, standardization of weapons… was done with the intent to turn American Police Departments into a defacto army… same equipment, same radio frequencies, for the purpose of command and control. So, that’s pretty much been accomplished.

                So that, as we reach the point where we are now, where everything is falling apart, no county sheriff anywhere is going to turn down armored vehicles, but there are strings that come with all that. So we see DHS buying 1.3 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition– handgun ammunition– that’s to shoot Americans! Its a fact the U.S. government has declared the American people to be the enemy. NDAA– Americans can get jailed, anywhere in the world, without trial, and held indefinitely.”– video with Mike Ruppert, former LA police officer.

                It all reminds me of my ordeal with DMV, when I went to renew my drivers license– all the hassel, new requirements, confusion, them insisting I get a NATIONAL ID CARD.

                DMV stole my license when I went to renew it, even though I have a near-perfect driving record, and told me I had to change my name in order to get it back (so all my names on official records matched)… its a long story, but basically, I raised hell (plus, I was warned in this film I watched to refuse to go along with a National ID card– Nazism).

                So, I raised hell for 2 years (and continued driving with no license!) When I confronted the cop at DMV, telling him that what he was doing was UnConstitutional and that other states refused to go along with the Fed’s request, he told me that the new computer system would not even allow them to issue me a license until my name on all documents matched. He said that other states were going along with the Fed’s request, “after being offered enough money to implement the program”. And he said that the Social Security Agency was being merged with DMV (centralization of power).

                This– every damn, stinking bit of it, goes along with everything Ruppert said in his video and with what Hitler said, when he advised would-be-dictators to take little steps at a time, to turn open societies/ democracys into closed societies/police states.

                DMV’s around the country sold out the American people for enough money…

                • I used to be concerned about the police being armed but not anymore. Remember Tiananmen square where the military squared off against the military? It can happen here too. We can use that stuff.

                  LEO’s have to live somewhere.

            • KY Mom
              I like your comments – they are the voice of reason and logic. You keep them with no emotion…only facts. Please keep on posting. You are one of the few I look for.
              Smoky Mtns.

          • No Republican voted for Obamacare. Harry Reid has prevented it’s retraction. How will this end? badly I am sure.

        • Don’t kid yourself. There is not anyone left in the government looking out for the country. They know for a fact there is nothing that can be done to change what is coming. The majority of the shitbags are just positioning themselves for the collapse. The media is not informing you because they have been promised a place at the table or bunker for the culling and world after. For these shitbags we need to be saying “if the media lie’s the media die’s”. Their place is to be a check on government, if they won’t perform their only function why not remove them by all possible means? Why do you think they have built all the underground facilities and armed police forces across the nation will armored vehicles and ammo up the ying yang. No one will be stationed outside my house or any other average sheeple’s house protecting us. There is a plan, we just are not privy to it. Join the resistance now.

          • Maddog:

            Love your posts…..

            • POG I got the media idea from a book “enemies foreign and domestic” however it fits and we had better do something soon. FYI per the article yesterday about rancher Bundy in southern NV, apparently homeland security is surrounding the poor bastard. I hear locals are arming up and helping and the Sherriff said he doesn’t want to get involved. Anyone heard this in the LSM, I think not? Not telling someone that bad things are happening is the same as lying as far as I’m concerned. Any of you gonna want help when they come for you? I know I would like some and will probably need it with my attitude. Might be a good idea to start thinking about your line. Looks like the civilian security force Oshitbag talked about needing is up to speed, and its called Homeland Security.

              • Maddog, you should get that whole Matt Bracken trilogy. I read all 3 during Jan. and Feb. Highly recommend them. full of plausible scenarios for us.

                • Read them all. Looks like the Government did too and is using as a guide.

          • I’m sure the Tea Party people are still loyal to the country. But anybody like that will never see any leadership in the Republican Party. In fact, the Republican leadership hates them as much as the Democratic leadership hates the Tea Party.

      5. I was readin over on zero hedge last night about how high frequency trading is used to suppers gold and silver prices. I want to remind everyone of a tidbit I got from a trusted colleague. He has a relative working a big brokerage house on the street. Last April saw the largest demand for physical gold in recent history. It scared The
        Shit outta the FED. The Fed and SEC went from brokerage house to brokerage house presenting a collapse scenario if this was not halted immediately. Fund managers were I strictes to start selling off their Gold to make it seem less appealing to Joe Shmoe. Just saying. Ifetals weren’t the place to be, why would the fed be afraid of the people havin it?

        • The mob-govt loves its illusions.

        • I hope they “suppress” gold prices again, soon. I’ll put a little more under my belt for later.

      6. Well if you are current on world events we have so many things hanging above our heads.
        The World Bank and the IMF are talking and planning for a collapse.
        Fukashima is sterilizing our Pacific Ocean, not to mention the rest of the Northern Hemisphere.
        China, Japan, Europe, USA, all of South America are ALL on the verge of collapse.
        Home Land Security talks about a CME or EMP or terrorist event that WILL take down our grid possibly for decades.
        Pandemics are just starting to flair up in Africa.
        Asteroid strike, game over!
        Volcano at Canary Islands causing a tidal wave into the east coast.
        I am SORRY but something is gotta pop and soon. You can feel it, hear it, taste it, it’s in the air.
        Take your choice of these and a dozen more scenarios.
        Some where, some time someone is gonna hit the Nail on the head and then it’s game over as it all comes crumbling down.

        • I vote for the canary island volcano. If we could rid the USA of the east coast and west coast it wouldn’t hurt my feelings.

          • If only…that only takes care of the east coast though, what about diane frankenstein and her CA buddies?

            • The “Big One’s” comin’ out there soon.

        • Trailer Park Investor : I agree. there is bad JuJu in the Bush. Danger Close ! Almost time to DiDI out of here before things get Beaucoup Dinky Dau !

        • Add life on mars ( I think) to that list. It was on nightly news last nite. Channel 7. World news maybe?

      7. Won’t be just an economic collapse if I have anything to do with it. This will be our opportunity to take our government back from the Globalists and Marxists. Blood in, blood out. Save one for the MSM.

      8. I’m prepped. I have enough food for myself (being single) for about a year if I manage it right. I have medical supplies, knowledge of the outdoors and am proficient with firearms. I’ve been that way for a while and now I’m left constantly visiting the same dozen or so web sites / blogs constantly reading how THIS year is going to be THE year! (I’m not kidding, pick a site and go back through their archives.)

        Quite frankly, I’ve moved on from caring. Obviously my head is not in the sand as I’ve taken steps to secure my future but I’ve found life is so much easier when you don’t focus on it. There’s a difference in having insurance and constantly living your life in fear of an accident.

        Once you hit that point where you’re comfortable knowing that you’re going to be better off than 98% of the rest of the population, go live your life while you still can. It’s shorter than you think.

      9. Americans are broke and fed a steady diet of bullshit and free stuff to keep them from getting too uppity until it’s too late.

        This is going to make the Great Depression into the “Not so Bad After All Depression”.

        Our leaders in government and banking are looting the system at an ever increasing rate, not even bothering to hide their crimes.

        Our government is racing to arm its formerly unarmed agencies while racing to disarm the public.

        In the military this is called “I and W” or Indications and Warnings.

        Hard times is a comin, folks.

        Buckle up.

        • The biggest problem with regards to the events unfolding vs the great depression is people dont have that basic sense of self reliance and the do what it takes attitude,,
          Now people are satisfied to sit at home watching their big screen tv and lamenting that their unemployment checks are going to run out in a few weeks or they are riding around in their SUV grumbling how the welfare card wont buy them fuel and cigarettes,,,
          in the depression people made do and improvised or rambled along and found whatever it took to make it work, this is one reason why you really gotta hand it to the Mexicans,, they will fare much better than the vast majority of Americans who are satisfied to sit on their rear ends and wait for uncle sam to fix their plight for them,,
          its going to be interesting,
          so many in denial, so many so utterly unprepared for anything. I see it every time there is any sort of extreme weather or tsunami warning,, or during hurricaine season and a storm is brewing, last minute or not at all emergency buying, too late is just that, TOO LATE!

          • You’re right, KF.

            The thins that bind us together as a nation are now weaker than the things that pull us apart from one another.

            I don’t believe there is any fixing this. All one can do is get prepared and spread the word, and pray.

            It’s da kine.

      10. I have no food
        no guns
        no ammo
        no water
        no nothing,,,
        move along nothing to see here!

        • Anyone who can find me here at Panera Bread is welcome to everything I brought.

        • Why would I have food? I live in a small house and drive old cars.

        • I get my food from “meals on wheels”…you’re welcome to wait.

        • Kulafarmer, you left out “I have no lying skills.”

      11. Signs, signs, everywhere there’s signs, blocking out the scenery, breaking my mind. Do this Don’t! do that Can’t! you read the signs.

        • Can’t stand PC, “fucking up the scenery” please.

      12. Whatever happened to Smokin’Okie?

      13. Looking at this list I’m in very good shape. Thank God.

        I see only one spot I’m a little short on but it was in the battle plans all along. At the end of the month I will have it. My WATER FILTERING SYSTEM. I HAVE OTHER WAYS TO PURIFY WATER I JUST WANT TO GET A BIGGER SYSTEM.

        #52 to me seems like a waist of time and trouble.
        WTSHTF. You are not going to the hospital or the Doctor, so why do you need health insurance document? I this subliminal message to go get Obullshit care? (LOL)

        Just think this took me almost 15 years to get to9 this point. Even though I have been working on this back in the late 70’s.

        I don’t feel sorry for those that have heard the message but did nothing. Those Zombies and Leaches will get what is coming to them. The ones I feel sorry for is the ones that have no idea anything is happening. I see them every day. What hurts the most is that there is nothing I can do for them.
        Little side not been working in the garden for the last three days putting in some items for this summer. I have to wait till Mid May to put in the other things. I pray that God Blesses all of our gardens this year.

      14. Without warning I was homeless and broke for 6 months. I lived by being able to identify what was edible in my area. I could probably have gone on indefinitely but a friend found out about my situation and brought me into his house where I joined the military. Having a functional brain was and is my greatest weapon. Learn something new everyday on purpose and practice those discoveries until you feel confident that you could walk away from everything and be O.K. When you get to that point keep it up. There are some houses in New Mexico that are 100% self sufficient in the middle of the desert…they are not preppers…they just don’t need us.

        • Earthships, google it…

          • That’s the ones….I WANT ONE!!!!!!

        • Hmm, would the golden hoarde think there was anything to loot in the desert? I don’t like heat, at least nothing hotter than east Texas, but that’s a thought, in terms of escaping looters.

          • From what I was reading those houses (Earthships) can be built anywhere, and because of how they are built it wont matter if you get looted. The concept allows for rebuilding if you need to go somewhere else. Plus if you are far enough out in a desert you are less likely to get visitors especially once the fuels run out.



        Now we just “better take Porky seriously” he sure “showed us”.

        Still waiting for Porky to test his hydrogen bomb to let the world know he can now blow up a BIG city, rather than just a small city.

        • Maybe we will get lucky and he will do something stupid. something like the folks on the island called Alantis. Those folks sunk their own island.

        • 100% of the votes…? They must have the same guys counting the ballets that dumbo used.

      16. The powers that be will do their best tokeep the kickcanistan vodo economics going for another ten years. By that time the baby boom generation who where the so called middle class. that produced and prospered for about 5 decades after WWII. In ten years Almost all of us will be gone taking the dirt nap. Obama Care will make shure we don’t live to a ripe old age. The following generation of Tele Tubbies will not mind. they will eagerly give up all their freedoms & rights for the promise of government freebees. There wont be any revolution or reset. just a slow dismal creeping decline until there are only the few at the top and all the slaves & peons that willingly do their bidding.Our only hope is the the ongoing earth changes being brought about by the magnetic pole shift. If enough great clatyclisms occur worldwide they could cripple the UN NWO and agenda 21 plans. Its possible call it devine intervention if you wish.

        • Wasn’t part of the NWO plan, to wait us all out? Knowing that the last of the free generations will be gone, and that the next generations won’t miss what they never had.

        • In ten more years the native population will have been replaced with third world immigrants legal and illegal. Can you feel the love like Jeb does? Freaking moron.

      17. Went too Aldi’s grocery store yesterday,walked around it ten times couldnt find wet cat food, so ask the guy I know that works there were is it now, he laughed, and said they dont have any and dont know when they will get it,,like they might not even get it. He also told me there is a lot of produce they wont be getting this summer..Cattle numbers are at there lowest they’ve ever been, chicken being sent too China for processing so they can mix their sick ones in too your food, there is something going on with pig meat right now. So if you think Prices are high now, soon your gona need a Wheelbarrow full of money for a loaf of bread. Its coming folks.

        • EVERYTIME I eat pork I get bubblegut (huge boating) and usually end up throwing up at 1am or so. I stopped eating it and my “illness” stopped too.

          • Almost every morning I have eggs & bacon or sausage well salted and a quart of milk. all grown and processed by us. I never experience any problems.

          • Stew,

            Most likely your gallbladder is going bad. It is a wonderful experience when it finally goes on to the stone passing stage not to mention the infection potential. If you have insurance with good coverage you would be advised to get it checked out and if necessary removed. If it goes bad during a SHTF situation you will be a sorry puppy.

            • Dead puppy. John’s correct Stew. Look into it.

            • I hope you didn’t have to have yours removed. I just spent the better part of 2 hours educating myself on the gallbladder. There are a lot of things you can do to recover your gallbladders health including a flush I think I will try to relieve my symptoms and make a real diet change. If it works many great thanks to you for pointing it out and if it doesn’t no harm done…it’s 100% natural. I only have a couple of the symptoms of a failing gallbladder so I might be in time to save it. Diet soda will be the hardest to get rid of.

        • That will be good for those of us who grow veggies or grains,,,
          all I can say is “Told ya so” to the naysayers who will find themselves without any produce other than 5 year old canned foods,,,

          • Kula, there is so much I need to be doing and buying right now, but my hands are tied Financially. Theres Probably no reason for it but I feel Panicked over it. The good thing there is nothing stoping me from getting a garden in Except weather. I’m going to dedicate a small building to just canning this year.

            • Dont sweat it,, most of us are in the same boat with regards to finanaces,, If I want to get anything I usually have to decide if I would rather pay the bills or pay for whatever it was that I wanted to pick up, most of the time the bills win, but every now and then I get to have a mini Christmas! Prep stuff is tough, but honestly I am glad I put some extra cans of this or that here and there, been so many times that I have not even noticed being totally broke because I wasnt stressed about food or fuel or entertainment.

              • Something else to consider is offering your hands. It seems that a lot of preppers are going to shoot you if you approach but there will be places where communities come together to survive…offer your hands as payment, help them work the land and ask for a place to sleep until you have one of your own. Humble is good but sucker is bad…choose from 100 clichés one of my favorites is Kenny Rogers “The Gambler”

        • We raise pot belly pigs for our pork. tame rabbits for the meat & manure. have a milk cow & goat, chickens & geese for eggs. grow a garden. And its not a fad with us I grew up doing those things and My wife and I have been doing for ourselves all of our married life. Its not prepping to me. Its being self reliant and having Know How. yesterday I had deer for noon meal. rabbit potatos , beans & goat milk for supper. All of it grown & processed entirely by us. The best part is no middle men who had ought naught to do with us producing it made nary a penny from it. No sales taxes no profits for greedy middle men. The funny thing is about 40 years ago someone gifted us with a years subscription to The Mother Earth News magazine. and 40 years ago those commie liberal hippie greenies where precdicting the same exact things that are being posted here. Everyone predicts its coming soon make haste before its too late. And so far none of them has been on targret.

          • I was wondering how pot bellied pigs would be for eating,,, I know lots of folks use them for pets, but being that they are so tame and sorta compact they could be excellent for pork,,, I could picture them roaming around my fields and borders and rooting around in spots that could use some natural grubbing,,, can also feed them all sorts of off cast offs,, just think it might be hard to slit their throat when you were just petting it a few minutes earlier.
            I love Mother earth news,, excellent stuff on their site and in their magazine.

            • When the Potbelly fad was over You could get the pigs for free. I had teenagers to feed. So we ate lots of them. durn good eating. Lots of leaf fat. we just trimmed the fat off and fed it to the dogs & chicken,s. Skin one out and take all the meat of the bone and grind the whole thing up for sausage. You get about 30 lbs of meat. And its not a big job like butchering a 230 pound domestic hog. Potbellies eat very little and are disease resistant. I put rings in ours noses to keep them from rooting. potbellys can become mean However they are not a dangerious as a large pig. large hogs can & do kill other livestock and even humans. Some times pigs do become blood thirsty.

            • Kulafarmer, We had chickens when I was a kid… I still remember the day the little tiny chicks were brought home to us as an Easter present! We raised them, took care of them, and then later they were slaughtered and stuck in the freezer. NOT ONE OF US KIDS WOULD EAT THEM! The thought was disgusting– we raised them! (Getting their eggs was fun though!)

            • Just don’t name them. Makes eating them very unpleasant.

        • There is nothing, in terms of economics, that is unusual about food disappearing from the store shelves. If farmers can make more money from selling it to China, then they will do that. The US dollar does not buy what it used to in the world.

          I remember working overseas and earning US dollars 15 years ago and I lived like a 1 per center: top of the pile. There were just a few hundred people in the country that were at my level of wealth. But since then, the dollar has gone down the crapper and that money would put me at the same level as a middle class person in China. The government lies but the wealth has just been destroyed in 10 years.

          But nobody outside the US gives a crap because most believe the US had a good go of it, and now that is over. Turn page, next chapter – nia hao.

          • Nobody outside the Us gives a crap. You are exactly correct. The rest of the world believed the Us middle class had more than their fair share. So our producing jobs where redistributed to other places. The middle class was destroyed on purpose. It was part of the UN NWO agenda 21 plan. What I propose is that we do whatever we can to legally avoid taxes. Grow you own, Barter , black market buy on the internet ect. No sales tax revenues no income tax revenues we can starve the beast.

            • When the time comes they will sell us for fertilizer or pink slime. I believe that it will not be much longer until the US cannot defend itself and countries we have screwed in the past will settle accounts.

        • Folks are not buying meats and if you can, ask your grocer if he has ‘out of date’ meats(usually frozen) you can buy.
          Gene brought home a huge box (biggest ever) and we got over $150 dollars of meats for $35. It wasn’t even frozen, but fresh. Filet Mignon, which I have never had ($26 worth on the labels).
          Best box ever, $13 roast in the slow cooker right now. Mostly steaks and lots of stew meat.
          God is good! 🙂

          • Does Gene have a brother???

            • Yes, Gene was one of those little mistakes women have sometimes. He has a brother and at age 80, still trucking.
              The company that employed him for years fired him last summer; within 2 weeks he had another job driving for another company.
              I would say it was his hernia that got him fired, but the other company hired him, so it must have been his age…but the other company wasn’t bothered.
              I think his driving record had a lot to do with it. Must have been real good.

      18. Obama is holding back the collapse until he can force through his back ground checks on all gun sales, so he can round up all of our firearms.

        • No, he isn’t. Once the collapse happens he can declare martial law and rule like a dictator. We haven’t had a collapse yet because The Powers That Be don’t want it yet. Or because God hasn’t allowed it yet.

      19. @JayJay and all..
        Heres a link to an article written in the local paper for the Moapa Valley, where The Bundy ranch is located,,
        this gives insight to the laws regulating this stuff,
        at least some more of them,
        explains a bit about the open range stuff etc,,
        seems these feds are singling out Bundy and that there are others also grazing but not yet being targeted,,,


        • Kula:

          Thanks for pointing out this article. My nephew and I are partners in cattle that graze on BLM? land. He will be glad to have this information.

          • Lots of folks on both sides of this issue, i am only familiar with the cattlemans side and get where he is coming from, many dont agree, what is more troubling is how he is being singled out and also the way overboard show of force from the feds. These bastards work for the people but once again are portraying us as the bad guys and them as what they are, Thugs.
            Its bullshit, just because they have military gear and the government emblem doesnt mean they are immune to death. Personally i would just as soon see some good old boys say FU and kill off a few dozen of these pricks. Its way past time to vote this crap right, sorta like DK says, engage your employees, but heres my variation, engage your out of control employees from 600yds with a 50BMG.

      20. 20 wounded in multiple stabbings at Pennsylvania high school

        “STUDENTS AT FRANKLIN REGIONAL HIGH SCHOOL in Murrysville, Pa., hug their parents after a morning stabbing spree leaves 20 wounded — four seriously — with authorities taking a 16-year-old male into custody.”

        Fox News

        • Stabbing? Well at least the silver lining is that the weapon wasn’t a gun?

          • Not it was a razor sharp Pop Tart, shaped like a knife.

        • Did they have Ewdard Sizor hands on campus?

        • Many prayers need to go their way. Hopefully all of the seriously wounded will survive. A life changing event can happen anytime. My thoughts are with the students and their families….

          • I do NOT think like ya’ll–my first thought was how can one 16 year old stab 20?? BS….1 or 2 maybe, but what sissies would not tackle the shit head and disarm the bastard??!!?

            THIS is what will kill us–inactivity.

            “””Tolerance is doing more damage to this country than intolerance”””

            • That was my thought too. Something isn’t right with this.

              • Think about it, Wrong

                Kids hurried changing classes, crowded hallways,
                shoulder to shoulder.

                One thrust to gut, minimal movement, no noise,
                keep walking.

                Every six feet, repeat. Student down, no one

                knows why. No commotion, no panic until after

                it’s all over. Been done before. Proven tactic.

                • Yea. That would be a way to pull it off. Guess I better go register all my knives now.

                  Damn kids these days…..

                  Are you from Mich igan?

                  • Yeah, I moved back from OutWest.

                  • Roger that… 🙂

            • They say it was because some kid pulled the fire alarm and it was a stampede for the doors and Ginzu Gus was going “Edward Scissor Hands”

            • Wait–wait–wait–I thought this was a ‘no knife zone’.
              I couldn’t resist!! 🙂

          • Wonder how many psyciatric drugs this one is on?

        • Well KY Mom, the Knife Police will be visiting us any day now……

          • or they’ll just lock down all the kids so they never interact with each other. Maybe put all of their classes on video screens, like they do with prison visits and court appearances, all done with a camera, a mic and chair and table, in a little concrete room.

            Welcome to the next level of education…

      21. This is quoted from The Common Sense Show,,,
        the troubling thing is the $ amounts and what they are for,,,

        Using Technology to Seize Guns
        The Justice Department has requested $382.1 million in increased spending for its fiscal year 2014 budget for the announced purpose of “gun safety.” Mark my words, this has nothing to do with gun safety, it is about gun control and eventual gun confiscation.

        Obama is proposing $2 million for “Gun Safety Technology” grants, which would award cash prizes for technologies that can control access to guns.

        President Obama’s new budget proposal requests a staggering $1.1 billion to “protect” Americans from gun violence. This includes $182 million to support the president’s ‘Now is the Time’ gun safety initiative.”

        The technology behind the recent innovations which can control a person’s access to guns is stunning as is can allow a gun owner to only unlock a safe with a fingerprint scan and an RFID-equipped bracelet, like the one presently being touted by Attorney General Eric Holder.

        • ***The technology behind the recent innovations which can control a person’s access to guns is stunning as it can allow a gun owner to only unlock a safe with a fingerprint scan and an RFID-equipped bracelet***

          I award the ‘stupid’ trophy cup to these idiots that created this idea.

          Brilliant–these dudes have outdone themselves and maybe they won’t reproduce and then we can shut down the stupid gene pool.

          • Muzzle loaders,,
            I want to see tests using smokeless powder in a muzzle loader, note to self
            Google it!

            • I have used it several times at the range with my Encore just for shits and giggles. No problems, I haven’t pushed it.

          • JayJay, my gun safes only have the standard key locks and NO ELECTRONIC GIZMOS on them. That’s the only kind of safe anyone needs.

          • 30 seconds with a $13.00 Harbor Freight grinder and a 4-1/2 metal cutting disk your in….. WTF’k

        • Yeah, they changed the wording of gun control to ‘gun safety’. The idea was to make it sound less evil, wit the basic sales pitch still being ‘for your children’s safety’.

          • OK209 “my children’s safety” is even my 8 year old has a 22 cricket and is safer to shoot around than a lot of grown ass men these days

        • Yep– that is what the US government always does– and, unfortunately, we have seen over and over and over again, it works! Just give enough money and you can solve any problem– even the dilemna of how to disarm a bunch of citizens. ;( Scarey thought!

      22. Yes, the situation is as bleak, as described. So what if your very worst case situation/SHTF does happen. For all the “believers” out there, continue to prepare as you can. However, remember this the evil guys WILL win – in the short run. God will win in the long run. Take the time and read the Old Testament book of Habakkuk. Relax, it is very short, only 3 chapters. Bottom line: God tells Habakkuk to chill out. He does know and is fully aware of the situation and in total control. The bad guys will be punished for their deeds, in due time.

        The most important prep any can make is to get themselves right with their God, as they see their duty.
        I believe, Jesus is the Messiah and He is coming again and I could live to see it happen. I am sure that all the end time details will sort themselves out. So what ever happens to me, is truely in God’s hands. Repent, it is later than you think.

      23. One more thing: Tell those who you care about the most, that you love them. They do need to hear. Also, be willing to forgive.

      24. This is the one that tells you its going to be bad: “It has been estimated that there are approximately 3 million“preppers” in the United States.”

        That means there is less than 1% of the country prepared for any adversity lasting longer than 3 days.

        I’m sorry, but unless you live someplace where there’s no one around for miles; you will be overrun and most likely drutally killed by those that have nothing and are mad that you have something and tried to keep it for yourself.

        Your only hope is that days like that dont come, but i’m not optimistic.

      25. Well while I am not prepared as I would like to be, I work on it on a weekly basis. I set goals to complete each week, whether it be storing more water buying food or larger clothing and shoes for the kids. I also stay on top of laundry and dishes. So if something does happen I won’t have to use my stored water right away.

        • Tip for the day: if you run out of paper plates, use aluminum foil(you did stock alum. foil?)over your plate, discard and no use for water to clean dish.
          This can be said for salad plates, bowls to conserve alum. foil.

          • Conserve water: use freezer bags to cook in when boiling foods.
            Lets you reused that water. 🙂

            • What?? So I put my veggies in the bag (no water) and boil it that way? Seem like a great idea. I remember they had some sort of boil in the bag frozen stuff. I would think that it would be better this way cause all the juice stays in the bag. Guess I’m trying that tonight.


              • Wrong and JayJay:

                I belong to the ELKS and there was a warning in their monthly magazine about using plastic to cook your food in. Think you can find more information about it online.

                Maybe in a SHTF scenario, ok. For now, not so much. Please check it out……

      26. “It’s nerve wracking to live in the historical moment of an epic turning point, especially when the great groaning garbage barge of late industrial civilization doesn’t turn quickly where you know it must, and you are left feeling naked and ashamed with your dark worldview, your careful preparations for a difficult future, and your scornful or twittering relatives reminding you each day what a ninny you are to worry about the tending of events. Persevere. There are worse things in this life than not being right exactly on schedule.”

        James Howard Kunstler

      27. Of the one-hundred people polled here (Pop. 16,750 small town) are answers to the following questions;
        (Town was divided into four sections geographicaly; neighborhoods also divided by income groups)

        Q1: What would you do if there was a nation-wide power outage and you could not prepare a meal?
        A: 65% stated that they would call and order a pizza for that day, 26% stated they would “go out to eat”, 5% stated they have a gas stove, 3% didn’t know what to do, and 1% stated they had a way to cook (Camp stove, kerosene heaters, portable grills)
        Q2: Do you have food and water stored for emegencies?
        A: 89% said there is no reason to have stored food since there is a grocery store close by, 95% said they had no water stored (as long as you pay your water bill you’ll get water from the tap), 9% percent said they cannot afford to “stock up” (these 9% also had stated they went on vacations or bought a second and third or fourth auto this year), 2 percent stated they had stored food and water for emergency for less than three days, 1 percent said they had food and water for 14 days. The majority of persons polled stated they had only one or two days of food and no water.
        Q3: In the event of a nation wide natural(CME) or man-made(EMP) catastrophe where no energy sources were available, would you be able to protect yourself and loved ones?
        A: 85% said they would call 911(even though few had firearms), 10% stated that they had a “monitored alarm system”, and 5% said that they had the means of self-protection
        Q4: Do you have a stocked first aid kit for emergencies?
        A: 23% had some sort of “Band-aid” product and would put over an uncleaned wound(most believe that a band-aid can clean a wound), 2% have well stocked kits and have first aid knowlegde, 75% stated they had nothing because there are doctors and hospitals and would call 911 for help
        Q5: Do you have in your home a working flashlight?
        A: 42% have a flashlight but “the kids run the batteries down”, 37% have a light with no batteries because of the expense or not needed, 20% had no flashlight (Response: pay your electric bill and the lights will stay on), 1% had multiple working lights with spare bulbs
        Q6: With the current raise in prices from food, fuel, and other costs. Have you thought about “prepping for bad times”?
        A: 68% said that the goverment would help them and there was nothing to “really” worry about, 31% stated that their money was going for “other” expenses(IE Christmas, vacations, new cars, cruises,salon expenses, superbowl tickets,electronics), only 1% have prepped or beginning to.
        Q7: Have thought about buying gold or silver to use as “real money”, or to safeguard your wealth?
        A: 82% stated that gold and silver is not money – the Fed Resv Note is and that the safest place for money is the bank, 11% stated they cannot afford either gold or silver and that it’s “really NOT needed”, 1% had both silver and gold, 1% had only silver, 6% did not know a citizen could purchase gold or silver bullion.
        Q8: Where to you get your news?
        A: Television 93%, Internet 3%, None 4%
        Q9: What are your and your families concerns over the next three months?
        A: 94% holiday activities (Thanksgiving and Christmas and shopping) and the superbowl in 2014, 5% just making ends meet, 1% worry about “getting things squared away” while maintaining a positive attitude.
        * Poll was taken Middle of October 2013
        *** I have relocated, to a much safer place, away from this town as of December of 2013. I would not like to be “trapped” in this town when the collapse happens- it’s not going to be good for them

        • All I can say is…


          The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me…

        • Good choice PVW. I should poll the few dozen people around where I live and see what they say.

        • Won’t matter where you go, it’s the same everywhere. Unless you’re the only one getting polled.
          molon labe

        • Philip Von Webber,

          Mac should use this pole as one of his news stories. I almost felt nauseated reading it.

      28. and yet another MAJOR internet security breach

        How to protect yourself from the ‘Heartbleed’ bug


        “A new security bug means that people all across the Web are vulnerable to having their passwords and other sensitive data stolen. Here’s what consumers can do to protect themselves.”

      29. We all pretty much agree that most folks don’t have any extra food in their homes. and many if the did wouldn’t have the know how or means to prepare it. And we all pretty much agree that a parent might do just about anything to feed their hungry child. So if you are not willing to wholesale slaughter other people to protect your hoard where does that leave you? Its a question we all need to give some thought to. Myself Ill not kill to defend my stuff. If it gets bad enough. Ill leave with pack animals and burn my place as I leave. useful items stored at remote diverse locations only accessible by foot is my plan. I hope I never have to implement that plan. Making sure you don’t endanger you immortal soul is most important.

        • I look at it a little differently. My stuff is in my house. I’ll shoot at anyone breaking into my house who refuses to leave. It’s not just my life I’m protecting but my wife, my stepson, his wife, and their son.

      30. Most Americans are completely oblivious that it’s daylight out because they have their faces buried in an iPad, a laptop or other hand held texting device watching their favorite soaps or reality show instead of paying attention to the *reality* show that’s taking place right around them. Daily life.

        In conclusion.
        Looking at the numbers, it means that *millions* of Americans are going to *die* from either starvation, lack of water, medical conditions, disease or high speed lead poisoning.
        May God forgive us and save us from our own foolishness and arrogant pride.

      31. Serious question for you guys.

        I cannot afford prime agricultural land, however a couple of acres of scrub/woodland IS within my reach within a 3 mile radius of our new home.

        Is this a sensible thing to do?

        Here in the UK property prices are just insane, especially as the banksters buy up residential units, and prime grazing/growing land. (Anyone who thinks the 1%ers or even the top 20%ers aren’t prepping at this late stage is living in cloud cuckoo land imho)

        Woodland gives us somewhere to hide in an emergency, and the sprog is a skilled wee forager, & my mother has superb (what modern life now calls) permaculture skills, but she just calls “how we got round rationing when I were a girl” (She grew up during WW2 rationing here in Britain!). Permaculture is not a conventional way of producing food, but in troubled times it’s a reliable way of keeping an extended family fed.

        Woodland also gives us fuel, and somewhere to hide caches of various items considered contraband here in the over regulated class ridden small Island of the UK. Owning woodland also makes you a “land owner” which means it’s then easy to get a firearms licence (restrictions on guns are crazy here!) for the purposes of vermin control.

        I’m also thinking if I can’t grow crops in the conventional way on it, I can keep a few roosters of pure breed stock (Utility strains of breeds like the Rhode Island Red or Ixworth may have real commercial value in the event of a financial crash).

        I’m honestly not sure what to do with my rainy day savings for the best. I can’t ask people in real life life what they think for OPSEC reasons. I’m not in the bracket that can afford to lose what little i have scraped together over the year, yet land is not portable.

        • As far as the banksters buying up all of the residential and prime real estate, just remember that when we start hanging the criminal banksters, it will free up a lot of land back to the people from whom they stole it…

          • THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING, SIXPACK! Ha! I was thinking of telling her to go for it, and once SHTF, “get rid” of the corrupt and useless banksters next door! 🙂

        • lonelonemum….

          If this land is only 3 miles from your current home, then why buy it? If it were say 40 miles away with an artesian well, then sure.

          If and when shtf, you don’t need to buy woodland ground to hide. Just go there and hide, if that day comes. And be ready to defend it if trouble comes. Whether you own ground or are an intruder you will have to defend it either way. So why pay the bills and potentially lose it?

          My guess is it is better to keep prepping. When those bad days arrive you will have a better idea of what you need to do–either stay put or move fast….

        • lonelonemum…taxes…does the UK have yearly “property taxes” and will you be able to keep them paid? Will the frackers come in and destroy your land for 100 pounds?

        • Lonelonemum
          If it feels right in your gut go for it. Land has helped more people than its ever hurt. As for me, always done good w/ land deals. Our acreage aint prime ag land but we make do w/ what we got and build it up. Your place might be good for raised beds, but only you could know that.
          I say good luck to you and hope you make the right decision that you can live w/.

        • lonelonemum – never having been to the UK I am only guessing, but with the population there being around 60 million (?) yet being only the size of the smallest state in Aussie or a middling one in the US your density is pretty high and there isn’t much you can call remote?

          I would think the UK would suffer the worst in a SHTF event for a few reasons – all of your energy and most of your food is imported. You are probably more urbanised than any other country now because of that too? The “Golden Horde” would overrun all of the UK in a rapid breakdown – it would all turn to muck very quickly.

          I have said this before – what’s the point of having a functioning garden or small farm if you cant defend it? If TSHTF the hordes will descend on the country like a swarm of locusts and you cant shoot them all, sooner or later one will get you. You need to adopt a siege mentality, hunker down and live off stored preps until there is either a massive die off or order is restored. Then you can come out of the bunker and progress to self sufficiency.

          I know a fair bit about the UK gun laws. Join a club and get a shotgun and a 22 bolt action with a suppressor. Suppressors are quite legal, and believe it or not are actually encouraged, over there. For protection at “front door” distances nothing beats a 12 gauge. For harvesting small game like rabbits, pigeons and picking ducks off dams nothing beats a snuffed .22!!

          Mac has my email address if you want to email me.


          • You’ve just nailed my key issue – population density here in the UK means that the ability to get the fook off this Island sharpish is an option of last resort I’m just not willing to relinquish anytime soon.

            I do appreciate the sentiments of those who would stand and fight to the end, but at the same time I know in my heart I’d also prefer to see my child to safety if push came to shove.
            If I buy the land I can hardly pick it up and run with it can I? Your comments about defence struck home. I’ll put my meagre savings into pm’s for now methinks.

            Something a lot of people don’t realise about our class system and firearms. We still have a class known as “The landed Gentry” who are regular and active particpants in a variety of seasonal sports involving firearms. These activities include the annual grouse and partridge shoots and clay pigeon shooting at other times of year.

            Below them is a “game keeper & farmer class” who regularly use guns for vermin control (foxes, badgers, rats etc). Together with the landed gentry they form an organised socially cohesive group if shtf. Together these two groups WILL keep the Golden Horde escaping from the cities from behaving like locusts in rural areas.

            Then right at the bottom of the social structure is an armed underclass.Anyone who saw “Lock Stock and Two Smoking barrels” will understand that this is the criminal underclass, that is found in every nation. We may not like criminal gangs but they are organised, nasty and ruthless. They will control supplies in our cities, whether we want them to or not.

            It’s actually only the ordinary everyday honest worker who isn’t either armed or able to obtain a firearm in an instant if SHTF here in the UK.

            • You could always come to Aussie lonelonemum? Many before you have – some, including both my direct ancestors John XXX and Mary XXX came as convicts on the First Fleet of 1788.

              Good old John XXX stuck a gun in the ribs of a gentleman (perhaps it’s from him I inherited my love of firearms 🙂 ) on the highway and relieved him of his watch, money, saddle and boots. Sentenced to hang, lucky for me it was commuted to a one way trip to the colony of New South Wales! Mary XXX was a servant girl who stole some doilies from her mistress (there is some conjecture that it was a false claim to get rid of her) and she got 7 years. John and Mary came out on separate boats and later married.

              Funny how fate deals hands isn’t it? If you Yanks hadn’t stopped taking convicts from Mother England I might now be living in Idaho or Arizona huh?

              Anyway lonelonemum, we must all do what we feel is best for ourselves. Family generally ties us down to a specific locality.

              Hang in there!!


        • lonelonemum,

          Could you put your money into gold, wait for the collapse and the rise in gold prices, then trade in your gold for the new currency and buy the property? I know it would be harder to prep for a garden, chickens, etc. You’d also need money to cover your property taxes over the next few years or the government will seize it.

          Also something to consider, Ferfal, who lived through the collapse in Argentina in 2001, recommends not living in the country because there’s no way you can defend your property 24 hours a day and you won’t have neighbors close by to help if there’s a break-in. You could consider giving free room and board to a couple of security guards or relatives who could keep watch on the property at night along with a guard dog. But, there’s something to be said for having neighbors where you live now. They have an incentive to protect their own property and might band together for security reasons. If so I think I’d put my money in gold and silver.

      32. now this is interesting

        people constantly accuse Obama of having a weak foreign policy
        but apparently we were minutes away from being involved in yet
        another war

        Obama Was Mobilizing a Massive Aggression Against Syria

        what happened ???
        people didn’t fall for the bull shit false flag gas attack thingy did they ???

        now what???
        I think we can expect something even bigger next time
        they won’t make the same mistake twice

      33. And I daresay 95% of us do NOT have a quality L.E.D. flashlight– one that can project anywhere from 300-1000 Lumens or more, nor the specific batteries that such requires.

        In other words, expect a GRID collapse with the Economic one.

        Candles are fine, but cumbersome!

        Let there be light!

        -the Lone Ranger

        “Enough sunlight falls on the earth in one hour to power everything for a day.”
        – NY Times article

        “Here comes the sun” – George Harrison

        “There is not enough darkness to put out the light of one small candle.”
        – Motto of The Christophers

          • I like the ones that will hang fom the tent ‘ceiling’. We got several of those. Not the brightest, but they’ll do.

        • I have candles, oil lamps, LEDs, flashlights and crank-style lights. I wish I could afford some solar, but I can’t just yet…but I’m working on it.

          (by “solar” I don’t mean those little dollar-store porch light things.)

      34. Im actually hoping that it is great clatyclismic events caused by the ongoing end of an age magnetic pole shift that bring about the collapse. Tome that is preferable to war ,disease, breakdown of society, government run amok ect. With clatyclisms infrastructure will be destroyed limiting travel and hobbling goverments. there will be a huge die off from disease starvation ect. after ward only the fit and very lucky or unlucky? will survive. those who are healthy self reliant & have know how will not only survive that will thrive. However for a short time it will be a no holds barred roothawg or die scramble to remain alive. Most entrenched in their bunkers expecting to protect a hoard will not survive. They are too few with desirable stuff that too many want & need . Those years & years worth of hoarded food are the bait for their own trap. Unless you just one person you & your hoard location is not a secret.

        • At first glance these “people” deserve what they get…not sure if they even can be awakened…but Gawd damn I would love to make them all see the light. I feel like I am in a sea of idiots. Anyone else feel isolated?

          • Shawn,

            Absolutely! I once heard someone say it’s like living in The Twilight Zone. You know everything is about to collapse, but no one else around you can see it.

        • I share your view that if we’re going down, the govt and the rest need to go down too.

      35. I honestly dont care anymore, enough is enough. Period. No more of this Frog in slowly heated water shit. If I have to be the first, so be it. Someone has to.

      36. Just wondering if anyone is paying attention to whats heating up out in Nevada?

        • what is going on in Nevada?

      37. I could use a few less neighbors, so why worry about those who are not ready, no one is ever truely ready….just waiting. Do we morn the fat we burn off in the spring when we till the garden?

        • bonsaiman,

          That’s a very interesting phrase. I’ve never heard it before.

      38. Quote of the Day

        “If you prepare for collapse and it doesn’t happen, then you look a tiny bit foolish.
        If you don’t prepare for collapse and collapse does happen, then you look a tiny bit dead.
        Now, which would you prefer to be, foolish or dead?”

        GREAT column from Orlov

        Business as usual


      39. Yep, any collapse that will bring down TPTB will be a good thing! Actually, according to climate scientists (I know, you’ll don’t believe in it– fossil fuel industry got everyone hood winked…) but the experts in that field are saying that when it really gets bad (say, around, 2030), governments will not be able to stand. It(climate chaos) will take them down. Good in everything, I always say! 🙂

      40. They know that sheeple want an Alpha Male to lead them…Its what I dont like about humanity…I wish everyone could grab a pair and do for their own. Very disappointed in the people of the US at this time. I hope they turn around.

      41. No I don’t believe for a minute in man caused or man mitigated climate change. Glowbull warming was a scam myth superstition religion only believed by dumb sheeple. The magnetic poles shift all the time. most of the time the pole shifting is so little its not noticed. At regular intervals it shifts dramatically and the effect are clatyclismic. We are just now at the very beginning of a major end of an age magnetic pole shift. Its real and its happening every day. And its nots gods punishment for mans sin. and its not mother earth getting even. The Pole shift would still be happening even if man had never walked on the planet.

        • Actually, old guy (and I’m not speaking for anonymous), the climate HAS been changing in the last couple of decades. Now, I don’t know if it is natural cycles or influenced by man, but it is happening. You can deny it all you want but that won’t stop the droughts, wildfires and floods that are happening now.

          IMO I think we will experience more devastating effects from droughts and food supply disruptions than from some magnetic pole shift that drifts around all the time year to year with negligible results. When was the last “cataclysmic” pole shift that you talk about? I haven’t heard about it…but I admit, I haven’t really looked into it. Help me out with some links or info please.

          • The pole usually shifts by a few inches or feet per year. lately it has shifted by several miles every year. this shift twist the magnosphere. When the north Magnetic poles moves 40 miles closer to Siberia in one year and the south magnetic pol shifts very little the twist in the magnosphere causes the jet stream to become erratic. this twist also causes stress on the earth,s techtonic plates that result in earthquakes & volcano eruptions. the weird weather changes and storms ect. we have been witnessing for the last few decades are a result of the magnetic pole shift. there never was a normal or optimal climate. and no one has the right or authority to decide what the normal or optimal should be. Like snowflakes no two years day,s weather is the same. Change is the only constant. The Extinction protocol has good info.

        • I read a book years ago that said the same thing about a magnetic pole shift. It was called “Not By Fire, But By Ice”. The author’s theory is that once the poles switch the earth will cool down not heat up. Maybe even go into another ice age.

          • Ill be the first to tell you im not rightly sure just what earth changes will happen because of the magnetic pole shifting. Edgar Case and Nostradamus made predictions. some say it occurs about every 3600 years. some clain the last time was during the exidious? some say the poles swap polarity doing a complete reversal. Im confident in saying its happening right now and all this unusual weird weather and clatyclismic events will continue to increase in both magnitude & frequency until it reaches its zenith. Then it will gradually abate. How long is anybodys guess most likely a few decades before thing,s settle down.

      42. agree!

      43. The Israel Air Force’s new Super-Hercules can reach any point in Iran

        DEBKAfile April 9, 2014, 7:20 PM (IDT)
        A ceremony inaugurating the entry into service of the Israel Air Force’s new “Samson” air transport plane, Lockheed-Martin’s new generation C-130J Super Hercules, was attended Wednesday by Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz, Air Force chief Maj. Gen. Amir Eshel and US Ambassador Dan Shapiro. Another five Super Hercules are due for delivery by the end of the year. With a range of 4,000 km, Samson can reach any point in Iranian air space. It can carry four SUVs and 129 combat personnel or 92 paratroops with full combat gear, as well as 97 gurneys for evacuating casualties. The new plane is equipped with systems designed by Israel that streamline aircraft maintenance work. More Israeli-designed computers will be added. The Samson will also ease the function mid-air refueling.

      44. For the first time in my working life, I didnt get end of year interest statements from any banks. That line on our 1040 was a big ZERO. We dont make the stats any better.
        Last year we finished draining the wifes IRA and now its my turn. Yeah we paid to cash out but it became ours again. That aint makin the stats any better either.
        Poor on paper but prepping for economic collapse. I know I aint the only one here.

      45. Israel launches Ofek-10 into orbit

        DEBKAfile April 9, 2014, 10:34 PM (IDT)
        The Israel military spy satellite Ofek-10 was launched into orbit around earth Wednesday night from the Palmachim air base.

      46. fuck the tax statements…prepping can be retirement, if you have a house paid off and a garden and some live stock then what is stopping you? Not trying to sound harsh but I did it with no special circumstances. just my opinion.

        • Shawn if your comment was for me Ill tell you the house is paid off, been paid off. No debt in our house. Wife not working to support the govt. corruption and the EBT takers.
          I guess we did it w/out special circumstances too unless you count being independent special.

          We garden and grow out some of our meat w/ rabbits and hogs. Going to get a few goats soon, the wife likes them and the milk and cheese is good. We were doing these things before Obama and Bush raked us all. Now its worse and ramped up to fast mode w/ debt and lies and bailouts and printed money from the fed. The retirement we planned aint gonna pan out for us or most in working class. Being in my 50s, aint exactly retirement age but today were talking and planning to bail out in 2 months.

          • I also raise rabbits ,pigs & garden. The rabbit manure is very good for the garden. We also have goats. Goat burger when ground if mixed with a small amount of pork is very good. However goats do require very good fencing.

      47. New earthquake on Pacific Antarctica Ridge is a very interesting one. This same area in the past has either had no major earthquakes after it has been hit, or a whole swarm of major earthquakes. More activity on these precursor outer plate boundaries will show which one as they appear. That 8.2 and 7.6 aftershock reset a lot, like a recoil reflex of the planet. The precursors are still pointing to Alaska and the Northern Australian plate, especially between Eastern Indonesia and New Guinea to Fiji. The Arabian African plate border regions is also showing previous high activity after these spots have been hit, that include Greece, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, and western Pakistan.

      48. You know one of the reasons I started coming to this site was because there was a lot of good information.

        The other day I read a story online about a mob beating in Detroit (where I’m from originally) by the Communist News Network. (Yeah I know, but sometimes it is interesting to see what the other side has to say).

        Anyways I started reading the comments section and it turned into a bunch of name calling and insult throwing trash. One out maybe thirty posts actually had something worthwhile to contribute.

        Some days that’s what happens here. In fact its starting to happen more often than not. I find the best thing is just to ignore the idiots. All they are trying to do is get attention probably ’cause their mothers never loved them.

        So please people, can we just stay on topic, share what we know and learn so that we can all become better prepared.

        FYI, if anybody cares, Home Depot has some really nice heavy duty storage totes. They’re HDX, 27 gallons and only $10 with lids that can be zipped tied down. I bought ten to start storing and organizing my preps. You would be amazed how much they hold.

        Peace everyone. God Loves us all even the ones we don’t love.

      49. Hey we forgot to add seventeen. thats having no BRAINS. wow forgot the main one.

      50. SHTF is running behind on the news with that rancher out west.

        Another Waco or Ruby Ridge may be in the making.

      51. As a long time lurker and very infrequent commenter, I have to say I’m guilty of most of the above. I tried to get prepared but a son in college [who graduated with 2 degrees ] and 5 major surgeries on my part [ basically crippled now]. I’m not near as prepared as I need to be.I’M BROKE. But I believe in The LORD CHRIST and I’ll kep trudging on. I have watched this scenario since the late 70’s early 80’s , 2 books – NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY and DARE CALL CALL IT CONSPIRACY forgot the writer gave me hints to what was going on. I have to admit I’m a dumbass I should be much better prepared. BUT I can stil knock the fuzz off a nat’z ASS @ 100 yards. Good Luck To All And God Bless BUDDY [bug doody]

        • bugdoody,

          You’ve still got some time to prep. I used to listen to Bob Chapman before he passed away and he said to concentrate on three things: get a good water filter, 3 months worth of food, and have a means of protecting your family (firearm). Do that and you’ll be ahead of 99% of the U.S.

          Also, see if your son would be willing to help you prep. If he doesn’t agree, too bad! He owes you! Move in with him or have him move in with you and combine forces. Use the money he would have used on rent to stock up on food. Hope you get to feeling better. I know that losing your health is tough.

      52. Today a whole new round at the craps table started. The Federal Reserve has given banks two more years to get rid of their risky loans. It is just a matter of time before the wrong number is rolled. The stock market loved it, but it is simply more smoke and mirrors…..

      53. Anno
        With all due respect, can you understand what, “You will know them by their fruits” implies? It implies some sort of judgement on your part. You must examine the fruit (good or bad works) of a persons life. If it is good fruit and they claim to serve Christ, well, you know they are a brother or sister. If they fruit is bad then, regardless of their ‘claim’, they are not a brother or sister in Christ.

        There seems to be no end to folks who cannot understand what the verse you are quoting actually means. Sadly, those inside the church are just as ignorant as those outside.

        We judge everyday and for good reason. Are we not judging the powers that be; president, congress, senators, etc…. We MUST judge to survive.

        Looking at sin in peoples life and calling it ‘sin’ and saying they need to repent is not wrong. It is right, and required. It is when we judge them to hell, as only God can do, that we are sinning. Only God can judge them in that way.

        I have two gay family members and it has been really hard to convey my love for them and my fear for them in a way they can understand.

        Anyhow, this is totally off the topic of the article but it needed to be said.

      54. Haven’t commented for a long while, but the normalcy bias is a tough one to crack. The way I see it now, if he/she/they haven’t already prepared (I’ve tried and tried and tried), sorry. The author is doing a good job, but we know what’s coming.

        Not sure if my last post or not, but good luck to all.

        Brain Dead

      55. I don’t bother with investing in silver and gold. Instead, I invest heavily in brass and lead.

      56. Moving in circles one is not used to will do more for rounding out your plans than anything else I know. If you’re white bread visit America’s poor breeding grounds and try the water. You may come away with an understanding of the world around you come crunchtime and live.

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