Video: EBT System Crash: 16 States Out of Service: “How Am I Going to Feed My Family?”

by | Oct 12, 2013 | Headline News | 739 comments

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(Pictured: Grocery stores and retailers are posting signs for shoppers about the Electronic Benefits Outage)

The Electronic Benefits Transfer system responsible for providing 50,000,000 Americans the means to put food on the table has crashed.

The outage is reportedly affecting at least sixteen states.

Via The Organic Prepper:

Abandoned carts full of food were a frequent sight in grocery stores Saturday morning, as the EBT food assistance debit system stopped working without warning.

According to a Xerox spokesperson, a routine system check by the vendor resulted in system failure, leaving assistance recipients across the country with no way to buy food.

Xerox spokeswoman Karen Arena confirmed via email Saturday afternoon that some Electronic Benefits Transfer systems are experiencing temporary connectivity issues. She said technical staff is addressing the issue and expects the system to be restored soon. U.S. Department of Agriculture spokeswoman Courtney Rowe underscored that the outage is not related to the government shutdown. Xerox runs EBT card systems for 17 states and all were affected by the outage. (source)

Users of EBT (Electronic Benefits Transfer) cards in California, Ohio, Michigan and several other states are unable to make purchases due to connectivity issues.

But it gets worse…

Xerox is notifying retailers to revert to the manual system, meaning SNAP customers can spend up to $50 until the system is back online. SNAP recipients should call the 800 number on the back of their card, and Xerox will guide them through the purchase process. (source)

However, that system is not working either – it’s “closed for maintenance.”

Shoppers left carts of groceries behind at a packed Market Basket grocery store in Biddeford, Maine, because they couldn’t get their benefits, said fellow shopper Barbara Colman, of Saco, Maine. The manager put up a sign saying the EBT system was not in use. Colman, who receives the benefits, called an 800 telephone line for the program and it said the system was down due to maintenance, she said.

“That’s a problem. There’s a lot of families who are not going to be able to feed children because the system is being maintenanced,” Colman said. “No one should put maintenance in during the daytime.” (source)

Despite the fact that government workers report orders from the Obama administration to “make life as difficult for people as we can”, the nation is assured that the EBT failure is in fact due to server issues and NOT due to the government shutdown.

Hattip NinaO

If you ever wanted to know what the United States might look like and how people will react should the EBT system fail, then pay close attention

I go to the register and they ask me “how you going to pay.”

I said with food stamps.

“Oh, we’re shut down, you can’t pay with food stamps.”

I got kids to feed. You know?

And because the government’s down I can’t feed my family?

What’s going on with America? Now they trying to starve us to death?

…This is crazy

…I got six kids I have to feed.

I’m just trying to figure out how to get something to eat.

More from Zero Hedge via The Daily Sheeple:

This is six hours after the EBT system crashed.

It is reportedly a glitch that should be resolved soon, but what would happen if it doesn’t get resolved?

What if the system is down for 72 hours? How about 72 days?

Via Daisy Luther:

This is your 72 hour warning. If you don’t already have a two week supply of food and water, now might be a good day to go stock up, just in case this is the beginning of a bigger crisis. The first three days after a major event are your window of opportunity to get prepared, based on the just-in-time food supply in grocery stores and the amount of food most people store in their homes.

If the EBT failure continues, look for the situation to get progressively worse.

We’ve warned about this being a real possibility because the EBT system is directly connected to the internet and any number of events could cause the system to completely crash including a cyber attack, a natural disaster or the national power grids going out of service.

Look how people are reacting on the day of. They are wholly unprepared for such an event.

If it were to go on for three days or more, we could have pandemonium in the streets as hungry, angry and panicked individuals rush grocery stores for resources… And once those are cleaned out, they’ll come for your home food storage.

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    1. hopenjoy

      Well, we’ve spent the last few evenings cutting up our deer, and I picked 5 boxes of apples at the in-laws today, will be making applesauce & dried apples tomorrow…I think we’re good.

      • Paranoid

        Anybody got a list of the 17 states? Anyone heard from Manos lately? This isn’t the big one but watch very carefully this is how it will start.

        • Be informed

          Ever seen a horse of cards coming down, one after the other. This is what seems to be happening this month.

          It is even somehow affecting the planet. For the past week I have not seen much life around, where last week there was plenty. I mean the birds, even the trash birds such as sparrows, pigeons, starlings, and those loud obnoxious black birds have disappeared. No robins either. The insect have gone away also. You always have the insects such as these beetles coming in for the winter, not this year. Nothing with the spiders either. I have already discussed the massive earthquake likely coming in the previous article.

          It seems like the edge of the storm. Or the eerie feeling before IMSF (I’M Surely Fuc#$%) event. All you need right now is some of the haunting music in movies that they play before the catastrophe ends.

          Anyone else out there seen anything out of the ordinary? Anything such as strange animal behavior, planet land or water changes, movement of armed forces or excessive train shipments, anything weird?

          • Highspeedloafer

            I’m not sure about what’s happening in NC, but Friday in the grocery store it took me 40 minuets to check out. I switched checkout lines 3 times because I was behind people with WIC vouchers. Each one had to be processed separately and one of the cashiers told me that it had been like that all day.

            On the bright side, maybe walmart will put some of their extra items on sale since the ebt crowd can’t purchase. I don’t mean to be crude but I’ll take advantage of a good sale when I can.

            • sixpack

              I’ve got plenty to eat and drink, within arms reach. Three days ain’t nothing. If you think about it, this only SUPPORTS the truckers and their moratorium on buying this weekend…Timing?

              We’ve got everything we need in this house, because I MADE SURE OF IT.

              • braveheart

                Sixpack, I was out shopping earlier adding to my already long-term supply of food. The store I was in was as calm as could be. I don’t think the problem happened in TN, at least not that I’m aware of. No shortage of anything in my home because I PREP. braveheart

                • OutWest

                  BO Peep better be careful.
                  If he starts putting the squeeze on his
                  democratic lap dogs food supply, they’re
                  liable to turn around and eat him alive.

                  I would like nothing better than to see
                  him become a bowl of obama chow.

                • ready down under

                  Sixpack/Braveheart – so right! Just another warning sign right? When such a massive percentage of people depend on your EBT system to live from day to day surely that just reinforces the absolute necessity to have enough stored to see you through such a crisis without having to go outside when it all starts falling apart if it drags on for more than 2 days. Take care my friends, I have become fond of this community 🙂

                  Aussie

                • John Q. Public

                  @ lonelonmum

                  In a recent post, you made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, you made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah,” so you cannot really absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself. Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • Sgt. Dale

                  Brother Breavheart;
                  How far awy are you from Murfeesboro? Go to relocate in that are soon.

                • John Q. Public

                  The truth haters are off to a strong start.

                • Survivor in waiting

                  Theres an old saying: Were three meals away from anarchy. Believe it.

                • John Q. Public

                  @ lonelonmum

                  The truth haters cannot suppress the truth.

                  In a recent post, you made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, you made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah,” so you cannot really absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself. Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • John Q. Public

                  Maybe you truth haters can offer evidence? Of course not. You only have censorship.

                  @ lonelonmum

                  In a recent post, you made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, you made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah,” so you cannot really absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself. Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                  So much for the disbelieving truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers.”

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • KY Mom

                  If you control the oil you control the country;
                  if you control food, you control the population.
                  -Henry Kissinger, Former U.S. Secretary of State

                • John Q. Public

                  In a recent post, you made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, you made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah,” so you cannot really absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself. Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                  So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • John Q. Public

                  The harder that the synagogue (and their paid internet ‘talk backers’) work to hide the truth, the more important it is to understand the truth.

                  In a recent post, lonelonmum made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, she made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah.” Nobody can legitimately absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself.

                  Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The joke on us? The rabbis are quite candid about this amongst themselves (I have LOTS of references in Jewish literature) and only spin the yarn that they are Old Testament people when they are fund-raising, blame-shifting, or otherwise hosing Gentiles, especially “Christian” Zionists.

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.” Apocalypse 3:9 and 2:9

                  So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • John Q. Public

                  Of late, the world is awakening to the Zionist genocide and to the role of the tribe’s banksters in economic crimes against humanity. Like a chameleon, there has been an effort to make a false distinction between Zionism and Judaism. Keep this in mind.

                  Zionism is a 19th century development in Judaism. Zionism was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been promoted by an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, kill and loot Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself.

                  Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The joke on us? The rabbis are quite candid about this amongst themselves (I j=have LOTS of references in Jewish literature) and only spin the yarn that they are Old Testament people when they are fund-raising, blame-shifting, or otherwise hosing Gentiles, especially “Christian” Zionists.

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.” Apocalypse 3:9 and 2:9

                  So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • John Q. Public

                  Of late, the tribe is working overtime to conceal the truth because the world is awakening to the Zionist genocide and to the role of the tribe’s banksters in economic crimes against humanity. Like a chameleon changes colors, there has been an effort to make a false distinction between Zionism and Judaism. Keep this in mind.

                  Zionism is a 19th century development in Judaism. Zionism was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been promoted by an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, kill and loot Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself.

                  Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The joke on us? The rabbis are quite candid about all this amongst themselves (I have LOTS of references in Jewish literature). The children of the Father of Lies and Murder only spin the yarn that they are Old Testament people when they are fund-raising, blame-shifting, or otherwise hosing Gentiles, especially “Christian” Zionists.

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.” Apocalypse 3:9 and 2:9

                  Believe Jesus? Or believe the synagogue of Satan? So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

              • lastmanstanding

                Did you say you have plenty of arms within reach?

                • Smokey

                  I thought he said his arms had plenty of reach…

                • Facebook Page

                  Send real food. Tube food sucks. But the drugs still make up for it I guess.

                • sixpack

                  lastmanstanding/smokey, to be clear,

                  I have plenty of food within my reach

                  I have plenty of arms within reach

                  Since I can still reach the beer in the refrigerator, my reach is fine too.

                • John Q. Public

                  The harder that the synagogue (and their paid internet ‘talk backers’) to hide the truth, the more important it is to understand the truth.

                  In a recent post, lonelonmum made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, she made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah.” Nobody can legitimately absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                  Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                  The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                  Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                  Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                  You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself.

                  Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                  The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                  So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                  Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

              • John Q. Public

                In a recent post, lonelonmum made an attempt to make a distinction between Zionism and Judaism in order to shift blame off Judaism. While there are some important distinctions of Zionism as a majority sect within Judaism, she made a critical (and very common) mistake about “Torah,” so nobody can legitimately absolve or exculpate Judaism.

                Zionism is a late development in Judaism (19th century) and was initially rejected by most religious “Jews,” but since the 20th century has been dogma for an overwhelming majority of self-identified “Jews,” both religious and secular.

                The banking and other conspiracies of the synagogue of Satan long preceded Zionism. Judaism cannot be absolved or exculpated. Here is why.

                Because of its perpetual Master Race creed, loot and kill Gentiles, Judaism itself is to blame.

                Too, if you really want to understand Judaism, it is essential to understand that what they mean by “Torah” is their “Oral Torah” (Torah she’beal peh) that eventually was committed to paper as the Talmud in the 3rd through 5th centuries AFTER Jesus Christ’s Incarnation and Crucifixion. Unless they are making a great show for Gentiles (especially evangelical ‘Christian’ Zionists), religious “Jews” ridicule the Written Torah (Torah she bich tav), what we consider Old Testament, as inferior and fit only for children.

                You must understand that “True Torah Jews” are not nice Old Testament people who stopped burning their children for Moloch and the Golden Calf, but people convinced that only they are human, that the rest of us should be looted and killed, and they believe also in all the hate, perversion, and Babylonian black magic of the “Torah,” of the Talmud and Kabbala. The “True Torah Jews” are 100% believers in the Torah’s hate of Gentiles, of the Prophets, and of Jesus Christ Himself. Their “True” (Oral) Torah teaches “the best of the Gentiles should all be killed” and that Jesus Christ was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b], a “mamzer” [bastard] conceived adulterously in “niddah” [“menstrual filth”] by a Roman soldier named Pandera [Kallah 51a] of a whore [Sanhedrin 106a] and that He is now in Hell boiling in feces and, in some editions because Jesus is accused of sexual perversion, semen [Gittin 57a]. That “True” Torah states that the Sanhedrin justly executed Jesus because he was an idolater [Sanhedrin 43a, 107b] who worshipped a brick [Sanhedrin 67a]. One more interesting point, their “True” Torah actually corroborates one point in the Gospel, the blame upon the Jews, because the “True” Torah boasts that the Sanhedrin overcame Roman opposition to the execution of Jesus [Sanhedrin 43a].

                The whole public relations lie about Judaism, Judaism’s phony narrative about itself, depends entirely upon our goyische ignorance of the precise meaning of “Torah.” Once you understand that “Torah” is the Oral Torah that Jesus damned as “voiding the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9) you will truly begin to understand Judaism for what Jesus said it was and see religious Jews for exactly who Jesus said they are—“…the synagogue of Satan, those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

                So much for the truth haters who call themselves “Bible believers” while disbelieving the Bible.

                Neither Zionism nor Judaism get a “pass.”

                • Israel is TERRORISM

                  Agreed, but there are still many Jews who maintain the old Hasidic views, and think Zionism is an abomination. Unfortunantly, they are very few in number and often mimicked by the Zionists as “cover”. Plenty of imposters in the diamond dealerships in NYC. I am not jewish, by the way, but have been looking into their impact and culture locally. Many really do believe the rest of us are gentile cattle… and they fund and protect each other’s businesses from the rest of us. Now, I am not saying that isn’t wise, but the superiority complex that accompanies it is downright dangerous.

                • sixpack

                  IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GET REALLY SICK TO THEIR STOMACH, TRY THIS LINK

                  http://www.naturalnews.com/042479_EBT_cards_Walmart_looting.html

                  Apparently, looting will happen much quicker than we thought. They don’t even need a SHTF event to steal—and get mad when somebody calls them on it!!

                • John Q. Public

                  Hasidism is a movement composed of different sects from the 18th century, NOT from the time of Jesus Christ.

                  Even the ones who oppose Zionism still hate Jesus, the Prophets (because they criticized Israel), and Gentiles (because we are not human, just look like humans), that “even the best of Gentiles should all be killed.”

                  Hasidim are NOT followers of Mosaic Law. Even as the Pharisees nearly two millennia before the Hasidim ridiculed Moses as a dunce in the back of Rabbi Akiva’s class (Menachot 22b), so too the Hasidim. Please remember that Jesus HImself noted that Moses “accused” the Pharisees. John 5:43-47

                  Don’t be tricked by the public relations lie. Don’t be tricked by the narrative about Judaism concocted by the rabbis. Judaism is NOT the continuation of Mosaic Law, but of the Pharisees who DEFECTED from Old Testament Mosaic Law.

                  In the 21st century ONLY the tiny (about 15-20,000 worldwide) Karaite sect of Judaism follows Mosaic Law. Karaites are theologically so far from all forms of talmudic Judaism that Israel requires Karaites to CONVERT before residing in Israel. They are treated like dirt by “those who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.”

            • Slick One

              Highspeed
              Better than any sale,how much would the working people save if they didnt have to support EBT moochness?

              • NC joe

                The “working people” would lose a lot because the mooches won’t go away. They will go somewhere and do something to somebody and that somebody could be you. Remember, when the survival mode kicks in, your ideology, your values and your very life are of no consequence to the desperate. Besides, it will no only be the “moochies” who are affected, it will also be the employees of the retail outlets who will be affected. They will be forced into moochiness. Everything is connected to everything else. Events do not occur in isolation and there will be a huge ripple effect that will negatively impact even those who consider themselves self-reliant and superior to the moochies.

                • Slick One

                  I work 7 days a week, I might get a day off every few months…people who sit around and collect welfare out of my pocket because of the number of bastard ghetto children they produced are not my problem.

                • Night breaker

                  Joe ,
                  You just described the Failure of a Complex system , this is what our current state of events are, a complex system subject to a single point failure that brings down the whole system catastrophically and uncontrollabily with its own inertia.

                  This could be the start of trigger of events that causes the MEGA SHTF.

                  Our current system of just in time delivery is a catastrophe in the making .Without modern technology our civilization cannot support our population base. Once food deliveries stop the problems will begin. People will leave the cities In search of food , lack of clean water will disable and eventually kill the first wave with- in the first week.
                  You cannot carry enough calories of food on your back for long term survival, most of the live off the land people will perish due to scarcity of game and fodder. Most “in the wild food ” is not sufficiently nutrient dense enought to sustain you without being supplemented. This will be a apocalyptic horror of the first degree.

                  Living in a population dense area is going to be extremely challenging, people will start to kill with-in 2 weeks for food and clean water . This is when the second wave of deaths will occur.

                  Finally the third wave of deaths 3 weeks without food will cause the great die off , people will be to weak from lack of food and will die of starvation or loss of hope by suicide. Some survivors will remain as in nature the biggest , meanest and adaptable prevail . This is who are the risk to the rest of us. Who remain . A nightmare so dark It defies imagination , humans reduced to a feral state feeding on their own without remorse or decency.

                  The unprepared living may envy the dead.

                  http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/08/26/bracken-alas-brave-new-babylon/

                  PREPARE TIME IS SHORT

                  RESIST NO MATTER WHAT

                  Semper Fi 8541

                • lastmanstanding

                  Look at you Joe…on the plus side for once!

                  A ripple affect that will be dealt with harshly if proper manners aren’t used.

                • Smokey

                  They’re mooching off the system today, Joe, but they will not be ‘forced into moochiness’ tomorrow, some will choose to loot and steal instead of working for their food.

                • RebelYell

                  Bah, feeding those 50 million people is not my responsibility. Feeding and protecting my family is. Those who live their lives taking from others will get to see how real people defend themselves and their property when they come to take it away.

                • Kevin2

                  Slick One

                  Due to free trade agreements with slave labor nations which eviscerated the US industrial base. This coupled with the abandonment of Bretton Woods in 1971 which launched the ability to inflate and Glass Steagall in 1999 which put the financial fox in charge of economic chicken coop millions were tossed out of work. The reality is there is for the most part nothing for them. Actually as perverse as it is their EBT spending is “the economy” in areas.

                  Pull the plug on welfare now and you will see 30% unemployment. That is not trickle down but rather feeding up.

                  Your complaining about the symptom not the cause.

              • Ancient Echoes

                Maybe it is time to think about bringing less people into this world in the first place. What rational society allows single mothers to have six children that everyone else has to support. What happened to our educational system that leaves people so completely out of the loop that they cannot understand how a Government shutdown could effect them? Have not all the rest of us been effected the last ll days. We have to learn that we are ALL in this together! Poor, Rich, Prepared and uninformed, we all have to learn to work together.

                • The Old Coach

                  Yeah – in my area the EPA-driven coal plant shutdown just put 1000 more people out of work because without the electricity an aluminum smelter has been forced to close. 1000 people in a county with a population of only 15,000 to begin with. Crushing productive workers, while boosting their welfare clientele.

                • KY Mom

                  The Old Coach,

                  I am sorry to hear this. I live in a rural area in eastern Kentucky. We are facing the same thing here. Many coal mines around here have been closed and the miners have been laid off.

                  Be strong!
                  KY Mom

                • sixpack

                  @The Old Coach, and the people had no say in it either, did they? They had NO CHOICE in the matter…they just had to do on the govt dole to survive. Good people forced into a bad situation without their consent.

                  Why is it that we only tend to see the people who abuse their EBT and never those who didn’t want it, but have to have it because of something that was out of their control?

                  THOSE people are just as much the victims as we are. The difference is, good people don’t STAY victims any longer than they have to.

              • KY Mom

                I believe many families are being pushed into the SNAP program (food stamps) just to stay afloat.

                Workers at many places are seeing their hours cut, as businesses try to avoid the mandates of Obamacare. In this ‘recovery’, the majority of new jobs are only part time. It is very difficult to support a family on a part time job.

                I urge everyone to try to grow some food – start a garden or container garden. Storage containers from an outlet store (be sure to clean first with a little bleach and some water) will work just fine.

                SNAP Benefits Will Be Cut for All Participants in November 2013
                cbpp dot org

                • The Old Coach

                  My comment above (2736211) was meant to reply to KY Mom.

                • JayJay

                  For families of three, the cut will be $29 a month — a total of $319 for November 2013 through September 2014, the remaining months of fiscal year 2014.[2] That’s a serious loss, especially in light of the very low amount of basic SNAP benefits.

                  {{{That’s a serious loss}}}???? Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit —that’s $7 a week—hey moochers–eat oatmeal for breakfast instead of $3 a box sugar-coated cereal like I do!!! 🙁

                • veggimama

                  As a hard working low waged taxed to hell organic farmer, I am not embarrassed to say that my family of 5 receives food stamps,very little I might add. And as an employed individual the hoops you jump through to get any assistance is maddening, sending paystubs every month, being expected to come into their office during my work hours, scrounging up every bill to prove how much my expenses are etc. All while knowing that most non working recipients just keep getting my $ with little to no effort.

                  If my wages weren’t taxed so heavily, i would even “need” this sort of assistance! We use SNAP to supplement what we don’t grow, and use them wisely to buy healthy food from local producers and stock up on necessities. WHile most others seem to buy nutrient devoid GMO JUNK that just adds to the expenses and “need” for medicaid.

                  For a month we had no stove to cook on, and aside from building fires for some food, and my crock pot, to simplify our busy life, farming, moving into to our new homestead, family, we bought some of that microwavable junk, paid a lot more for food that month and all got sick. HMMMM… SNAP programs would be 50x more efficient if they weren’t directed through multinational corps like JP morgan here in NY, and folks were required to buy healthy food.

                  However on the brink of economic collapse, this will only get worse. When i called to check balance i was assured via recording that despite Govt shutdown, SNAP benefits would continue through the month of october— but beyond?

                  Solar flares headed our way,oct 16-17 “comet’ ISON, yellowstone activity, civil unrest…. we are certainly everyday closer to shtf.

                  When these people freak ONE day unable to use your money to buy food… like they’ll starve one day without food….Very frightening. ONE day.

                  With a couple days off (rare occasion for a farmer) canning end of season tomatoes, drying apples, along with homestead farm chores is my agenda for the day, as well as getting into town and using up my snap benefits while they’re still there.

                  prepare for the worst, hope for the best- god bless.

              • another Jay

                Slick One, it’s NOT coming out of your pocket (they are just printing the money, thats why we are 17 trillion in debt) and it most certainly IS your problem, cause when the free shit stops they are coming for your stuff. And yes, I do resent having to work when they don’t.

              • Highspeedloafer

                I agree 100% Slick One.

                • pissinwiththewind

                  The EBT “users” can be seperated into two groups. There are those that truly deserve and need some help because of the mess created by the banksters/tptb.

                  Then, there are those that don’t deserve to see a dime from anyone because they have chosen to abuse the system and are too damn lazy to work. It’s easier to spread their fat legs and create more income into their jungle nest by spurting out more hungry mouths.

                  If their babies were taken at birth and given to responsible people to raise, it would stop the vicious cycle and drain on the working people.

                  Buggies full of groceries sitting at checkout counters, and frozen goods left to defrost and ruin, shows the mentality of the second group of EBT users. It’s all about them and their, “I’m entitled”, ideology, so fuck the working people, is their mantra.

            • bbrrrp

              walmart is one one of hte beast corporations that is taking this country down, if you shop there, you are for the govt and what its doing

              • Patriot Man

                Hell yeah – support chinamart and you are a quasi traitor.

            • c

              Just to be clear ( and not saying Highspeed was saying anything at all about wic except it took unusually long) but WIC serves mostly working families. They also serve low and no income but the program serves up to the lower middle class income. The idea is to provide education on family issues, nutrition and health. An informed mom and dad make better decisions for their families and that benefits them and then entire community now and for years to come. It is a very cost effective program. And it is respectful of the people that use it.
              Most WIC clients work and pay taxes. And though WIC has never been cut in a government shut down before, this time it is all about how much public pain can they cause the people. The people in OUR White House are not trying to be bridge the gap and get things working. No they just want what the want and will cause pain to others to get it. This is who they are!

              • Highspeedloafer

                Yes C, I was just making an assessment of what I experienced. I truly feel for hard working men and women who have been forced into these programs.

                As far as shopping at walmart goes, I’ll bet I shop there less than anyone on this board. That was the example given earlier and I responded to it. So, there ya go.

              • veggimama

                yeah, but the food you can get from wic is pretty much corporate backed JUNK. No whole milk, no organic anything even though the $ allotted for each check is more than enough for healthier choices… where does the extra cash go?
                The only healthy options in wic are the farmers market/ produce checks, and even those shy in comparison in $ amount to the $ allotted for foods we should be eating less of to stay healthy! But at least the options are limited and folks can’t go buying soda for their kids morning drink, or GMO doritos as they can with SNAP. SUPPLIMENTAL NUTRITION assistance program. Its name implies exactly the opposite of what it is.

                • Sigi

                  Really? No whole milk? Hm.

                • c

                  In my state WIC looks like this: 1.Whole milk for 1 to 2 years old or underweight children. 2% milk for all others on the program. There is also lactose free, powdered or canned for special needs. 2. Cereals are boxed or bulk foods, hot or cold. All must be low in sugar and fat, high in fiber or whole grain and high in iron. Cereal choices are carefully limited so only 1 type of Cheerios makes the cut. Most cold cereals can’t make the list. 3. Peanut butter is creamy or crunchy mostly any brand but no added stuff like marsh mellow or jam. Or they may choose dried beans, peas or lentils. Both choices are good sources of plant proteins. Organic beans are approved. 4. Fruit juice must be sugar free and parents are encouraged to limit kids to 4oz per day and add extra water to stretch that. 5. Cheese is limited to several choices but they are 1# blocks only as that is the most cost effective. 6. Fresh fruit or veggies are per parents choice (up to $6 per child or $10 per pregnant woman) but no potatoes. Sweet potatoes or yams are ok. 7. Whole grain choices are made from brown rice (organic is ok), bulgur (cooked whole wheat grains),oats, corn or whole wheat tortillas or 100% whole wheat bread.
                  The brands and choices have all been chosen by the state wic staff based on health guidelines. This feeds the kids healthy foods and helps educate parents on how to make those choices.
                  Nothing is perfect but this is not junk.

            • 1stworlder

              Maybe this will inspire some to find out who the baby daddies are. I couldn’t afford to have 6 kids like the leech in the video, because I pay too much for hers.

          • Kulafarmer

            Its all a game of distraction to these ass hats, i would put money on it,
            Tomorrow morning is the veterans march,
            Watch your 6
            Respect for those who served.
            Washington DC is doing its damndest to dishonor our vets.
            Those monuments belong to US not the bureaucracy.
            We are the rightful owners of the entire district of columbia
            AkA district of criminals.
            NOMI

          • braveheart

            Howdy, BI, and yes, my friend, everything is so strange lately. sounds like SHTF could be just around the corner. I did maintenance on my weapons today and checked all of my supplies. I have the same uneasy feeling just like I had in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, only stronger this time. braveheart

            • Night breaker

              BH,
              Doing the same here plenty of time on my hands ( furloughed due to current political insanity)
              Inventoried my bug out bag Elberstock Terminator repacked it for fall/ winter . primary long arms barrels degreased PTR 91 zeroed.
              Final prep’s added ,checked water filters for function obtained small parts kits / filter replacement kits. Kept In touch with team members , bug out vessel fueled / sails checked.
              I have the same uneasy feeling similar to what one gets on the approach to an active AO .
              Trouble just over the horizon feeling. If this crisis is not solved by Thursday anything can happen in my opinion.

              Be alert, be safe my friend .

              RESIST NO MATTER WHAT

              Semper Fi 8541

            • U dog.

              You have that special feeling all the time. Check your past comments. I wouldn’t make a decision based on your feeling. Check your weapons and maintain the pea shooters. Run to your relatives BOL if you are so sure of yourself.

            • For Cryin Out Loud

              You just need a good shot of ass BH, and you’ll be fine

          • OutWest

            Be informed

            One of the things always seen in mid-October
            around the Great Lakes is the migratory flights
            of waterfowl going south. This year, none so far.

            I am really surprised at no hurricanes, either.
            Have you noticed a quiescence around the country?
            Not much wild and woolly weather anywhere. Strange.

            • lower40

              strange weather down here in the glades ,as you said no hurracanes to speak of ,ive been here for over 50 years and i dont recall a weather pattern like this heavy rain like we have in august all the way into october ,and ive been seeing some of the strangest clouds that ive never seen before

              • Patriot Man

                It is called CHEMTRAILS and haarp, a/k/a cancertrails, and barium salts, which are a desiccant and one of teh long-term lethal ingredients that are in the sprays, which continue during the hoax government “shutdown.”.

                • JayJay

                  I’m in southern Ky next to the Tennessee state line.
                  I do not remember the 6 years living here EVER not needing a heater this time of year. I turned on a little one-room heater in my bedroom a couple nights; other than that, no heat needed…
                  70° to low 80° most days; nights, 50° to 60°

                • Pissed Off Granny

                  Patriot Man:

                  You are absolutely right.

                  Anyone who disagrees just has not bothered to do their homework.

                  They turn our beautiful blue skies here in cental Oregon into milky white. My vegetables and flowers have had a struggle this year.

              • karen

                OMG, I thought I was the only one thinking that the clouds don’t look right!! Up here in Michigan I’ve been noticing this all summer! Geez, I thought it was me losin it. And it seems too warm for mid October also. Can’t remember such a long, really nice fall, with so many perfectly sunny days as we’ve had.

                • Emily

                  @Karen ~ I live in Upstate New York, bw Buffalo and Syracuse. I agree, our fall up here is amazing.
                  It too, is a long, really nice fall.
                  Around 10 days ago, it got up to 80 degrees, x 2 days in a row. It has been running in the mid 70’s, to mid 60’s temperature wise. Very odd. Today the high is 63 degrees, the low tonight will be 48 degrees. I am going to take this weather and appreciate it. It is unusual though.

            • PO'd Patriot

              Geese here out the ying-yang. They actually arrived a couple of weeks earlier than the previously warmer years. My son went duck hunting Saturday and bagged a few wood ducks. The spiders, crickets and flies are still trying to get in as usual.

              • veggimama

                Walmart has terribly high prices, and poor selection of healthy food. have been boycotting them for years now.
                this has been an indian summer, the like of which i’ve never seen in CNY. Sun feels like mid summer intensity. Solar activity is on the rise. South dakota had freak snow storm, something like 4 ft in 24 hrs, massive heads of cattle died….

            • Sigi

              Unless you count that blizzard in South Dakota which killed thousands of cattle, horses and sheep.

          • Mark

            Well, BI, it’s a little thing, but WalMart was all out of both the 4 ounce and 8 ounce isobutane-propane canisters. Like a lot of people, I keep one or two in my backpack and in my BOB. Went to buy a few yesterday and, >poof<, they ain't none there. Never seen that before.

            • Wolf359

              Mark,

              Same thing happened to me yesterday. I buy a 2 pack each week for a pair of heaters. 1 can gets 14 hrs of burn time.

              I got the last pack of two.

              • Nopittypartyhere

                In our chinamart, they pull a lot actually almost all of the camping gear by October. Makes no sense to me, but whatever.

          • Mark

            Also, BI, there is definitely an increased police presence downtown. We usually have one cop in my tower; now there are two. There are more bicycle cops, and they are riding in pairs; normally they ride alone. Same with the mounted cops; they are riding in pairs. Yesterday, there was a sheriff’s deputy in his SUV in the WalMart parking lot, just sitting there. Security at WalMart usually amounts to a security guard riding around in a golf cart with a bubblegum machine on top. My guess is that there’s a county-wide increase in enforcement. If so, I have to wonder why.

            • Archivist

              Mormon cops?

              • Mark

                Ha! Exactly, Archivist!

              • sixpack

                Only if their uniforms were impeccably clean and their shoes buffed to a high gloss—LOL.

            • Vicky

              NW Ohio is crawling with local municipal police cars, county sheriff’s cars and highway patrol vehicles. The latter have a really mean-looking, snub nose outline. Have no idea what make or model. I assume this is more Ohio revenue enhancement, but it could have more sinister origins. To continue my post made earlier, and apparently now disappeared, we have seen only four Wooly Bears this fall, and they’re all beige. I’ve never seen beige bears. Ironweed began blooming in August and it took the Goldenrod a month to catch up. Usually, they bloom at the same time. We still have chicory blooming and it started in June. No idea how all of this weirdness fits together, but each is a piece of the puzzle. Let us know your conclusion.

            • Canadian Vet

              I have a theory about that. The shutdown is starting to put a lot of strain on people and odds are the types with badges are starting to notice it too and they are trying to get ahead of that with an increased presence. And with that EBT fiasco, stands to reason things could have gotten close to a breaking point.

              I have said it before and still give my buddy the credit for this saying: civilization is only 3 meals deep. If EBT has crapped out, there will be a lot of scared and hungry people out there. And even after it is re-established they will still be on edge though maybe not consciously so. Be very wary. While I am sure there are some good folks genuinely down on their luck needing EBT, a lot of the recipients are barely litterate half-savages and when they crack, it will be bloody.

          • slingshot

            Just came back from the woods.

            Seen a pair of Raccoons and a coyote out in the middle of the day. They are mostly night creatures. Owls have seemed to disappeared.

          • KansasJohn

            We raise rabbits. Lately instead of putting on fur they shed like crazy. Very few birds as well. No problems with bugs because we haven’t the birds to eat them.
            I work with farmers in agriciltural machinery for a living and some of the old boys are recommending keep thre firewood stacked and dry because we are in for a doozy.

            • The Old Coach

              The astronomers say so, too. Very low sunspot activity for what is supposed to be a solar maximum. Gonna stack another 2 cords for myself ASAP.

              • tayronachan

                @Old Coach, Ditto. And one low solar cycle is supposed to lead to another.

            • wildman

              Kansas John You sure are right! we put up 40 cord this year instead of the normal 24 cause after the blaster that went thru the dakotas, ya never know. Well so much for global warming. its more like global screwup. The geese are going over now so winter aint far behind. normally we have resident geese but this year they are all leaving and early to boot. time for 3 fingers of single malt an maybe a fattie wildman out

          • Shootit

            Plenty of bugs, birds, and animals in this neighborhood. The only thing that’s strange is that our barn cats have been hanging on me the last couple of days. Usually they just come bug me when they are out of food. I will keep my eye on the horses and dogs for any changes.

            • Shootit

              Weekend Update… Cats still acting stupid, Dogs pain in the but, and Horses have come unglued.

              Something is up.

              • Vicky

                Fascinating. Really. Feline behavior is a good indicator. Are they not wanting you to leave them? They’re feeling some kind of insecurity. My dog doesn’t want to go outside anymore and I don’t know why. She’s still shedding but is usually packing on the hair by now. We put up three cords of dead Ash wood this week-end and will be cutting steadily.

                • tayronachan

                  My dog has wanted to be inside with me for the past 4 days….BUT…We have a low pressure sys sitting off the coast pumping rain and clouds inland during that time. He always wants to come inside when it’s raining. And he looks at me like it’s my fault it’s cloudy and rainy!! LOL!!

                  But, I work for a contractor and our work has dropped off big time in the last 2 months. The same has happened to ALL the other contractors in this area. I’m worried.

                • Shootit

                  I think that my animals were afraid that I was taking them to Walmart.

                  ksla com/story/23679489/walmart-shelves-in-springhill-mansfield-cleared-in-ebt-glitch

                  You could drop by and cut a couple of cords for me. We spent part of the day cleaning up the garden and working on the camper

                • karen

                  My cat was trying her best not to let me go to work this morning. She, also, is shedding like crazy. ( I’m in Michigan.)

              • Sigi

                Our big tabby boy was wandering all over the house and meowing until we finally gave him some calming treats. His mama is cuddling us all evening, but then it is getting very chilly and she has short fur.

          • Swinging on a star

            Where I live, it is quite conservative and certainly not what would be considered a big city, actually a medium size town but lately there are many strangers who use their ebt cards at the local grocery store. I would give it about 20 minutes max before all hell breaks loose in our grocery store if the ebt cards were rejected.

            It is actually quite odd to witness the different type of individuals shopping in our store now versus less than a year ago. I have no idea where they are coming from but they stand out because some of them wear their pajamas while shopping, they are dirty, smell bad, some are morbidly obese, loud and rude. I don’t know where they live and I don’t know where they came from but they are here now.

            Strange times indeed.

            • Smokey

              Section 8 HUD programs are moving a lot of folks into new digs, where they didn’t live before.

            • Them Guys

              Sounds like you been Invaded by…DeeeeeTriot Negroe Afrcians! By the Dozens at least!…Next will be anouncements by local town officials that they got a fed grant and will raise property taxes to make up their 20% added to fed grant to build a new Prison complex.

              Then they will import a hundred or more xtra negroes to fill affirmative action “Quotas” jobs at the new prison once built.

              Then they will fill the new prison with 500 more wild savage monkys, which will cause another 1000+ africans to move In to your area so to be “Close” to their tyrone whos doing 20 to life!….

              Then…It’s…All…Down Hill…From…There!

              Another former white rural nice town bytes the proverbial Dust and goes Dark.

              • Anonymous

                tayronachan,

                They’re heeeeeere!

            • Vicky

              Same here. We live in a tight-knit German Catholic area and strangers do stand out. They seem to leave after visiting the few stores in the Village, but we’re wondering why they’re here to begin with. Dayton and Columbus aren’t that far away, and why here?

          • old guy

            We keep pigeons they seem normal one pair has a baby. Ive got new hatched bantam chicks. I caught a tarantula got it in a terrain on my desk. Used to be we had hundreds every fall now there rare. Ive noticed more mosquitos and fewer of every other insect. Less blackbirds than usual. Large increase in turkey buzzards and Black Vultures. The black vultures will kill. they catch a cow calving and peck it eyes out same thing with the calf. they even have killed horses around here. Its apparent that something is out of kilter.

            • Anton Hackl

              O.G.

              …as a small-scale amateur farmer w/ several large garden plots…I can state w/ certainty that this past year was w/o doubt, the most trying in my +25 year experience of growing crops!

              …have never seen such a abundance of stink-bugs or slugs.
              I lost a huge percentage of my various peppers to slugs & the stink-bugs wasted a large swathe of my various bean crops…(I used nothing stronger than a few sevin-dust applications, for the first time this past year).

              Ditto, for the black vultures…I’ve never seen so many.

              Been bow hunting for 2-weeks now…seen nothing worth taking, save a big doe (in the freezer). Seems the deer population has fallen off to a significant degree around here, especially the yearlings!!!
              That said, I’ve noticed every deer I’ve seen was unusually wary/skittish this early in the season.

              Also, the squirrels are gathering acorns/pecans/walnuts like ‘MAD’, they know I’m 25ft up in the stand & 15-20 yards from them…yet they haven’t raised much of a barking ruckus at all…I am ignored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
              Very weird behavior compared to previous years!!!!!!
              They concentrate on gathering foodstuffs.

              …strange days indeed!

              • tayronachan

                @Anton Hackl, For the slugs, try putting a little beer out in small flat containers slugs can crawl into. It’s organic, the slugs love it, and I bet they don’t feel a thing. And of course you get to drink the rest of the beer. 🙂

                • T

                  Beer definitely works on the slug problem but,…pop the popcorn and be ready to be entertained by the local squirrels if you leave bowls of beer out. Odds are good you’ll have local wildlife staggering all over the neighborhood 3sheets to the wind drunk off their tails. Watch out for little puddles of vomit. And be prepared for the drunk wildlife that thinks its a great idea to tease your dog.

                • Anton Hackl

                  Tayronachan & “T”….

                  Yep…did that! Used cheap dollar general pie pans & super cheap beer…results = ….I wasted all the slug boozers, but the slug version of alcoholics anomalous won the day!!!

                  Damn…who’d a thunk it??? Tee-totaling slugs united to nearly wipe out my peppers!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  ———————————————————

                  …@ “T”…

                  …drunken wildlife??????

                  …dude, several times already, I’ve rescued wasted squirrels from the 55gal barrel containing “dogfood” for my 2 German Shepherds…those rodents guzzle the booze…then get a case of the munchies!!!!

                  LOL…in the past, per my life…….I can sympathize with them…(hehehehehe)……

                  …but come winter, when the weebils(local terminology) are gone, they’ll be hunted here.

                  Ahhhhh!!!….fresh/homemade biscuits, eggs over-easy, homemade hash-browns w/ beacon & all covered w/ squirrel gravy…w/ a dipping bowl of wild honey or molasses…look out y’all!

                  Its Katie bar the door…mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!

                • Sigi

                  Lots of slugs and snails in the PNW this year. The deer population seems to have changed though. Maybe they’ve gone off to a more quiet part of town. A big buck was laying in the field next to the hose on Sunday though.

              • dragonsong

                I live in rural Indiana and we have had an abundance of owls and geese. It has been like that for months. The owls are out day and night. Weather has been going up and down, heading down now. Buying a new freezer, visiting a UPICKIT apple orchard this week and just ordered a 1/2 side of beef and pig from a friend. Also have 60 gal of kerosene for the heater and 40 canisters of fuel for the camp stove. Deer is plentiful and possums and raccoons are everywhere. I would not doubt another winter like 1978 and for it to show up even earlier. And I am prepared for Martial law…nuff said.

            • Mark

              old guy,
              Fewer ant hills in the yard this year and they haven’t come into the house at all this year (and I haven’t spent a dime on the exterminator, either). Fewer wolf spiders in the house (I let them have the run of the house).
              I usually have toads, and I can hear the frogs at night. Haven’t seen a toad this year, and haven’t heard the frogs at all.
              We do still hear an owl hooting outside at night, as we have for several years now.

          • senormechanico

            I live on waterfront at the North end of Puget Sound in Washington state.

            Ship traffic has all but ceased in Puget Sound.

            Bammy has got the economy in a stranglehold.

            • The Old Coach

              On the other hand the USA is now a net EXPORTER of natural gas. Houston is booming.

              • Smokey

                Yep, in about 50 years we’ll be wondering where the heat in our homes went.

            • Anonymous

              When I go out, I wonder if people on the street are aware of what is happening– the collapse. Most people look really down, negative, worried. Yet when I talk to people, most take up for the bull they hear on MSM and don’t really seem aware of what is happening.

              The only thing out of the ordinary that I see is that a lot of people look very worried, down and negative.

              • Mark

                Hmm… I have thought the same thing, but I wrote it off to my imagination. Tell you what. I’m going to start talking to people on the street. Just ask them a few questions. Suits, construction workers, homeless people. I run across them all walking down the street every day. I’ll let you know what they are saying.
                This could develop into a project! Maybe I’ll be the next Studs Terkel (but from the Tea Party end of the spectrum, unlike my liberal friend Studs). Promise I’ll report everything unaltered and raw.

                • Vicky

                  I have several of Studs Terkel’s books, one of which is titled “Working”; maybe you could publish “Not Working”?

              • Mark

                Dang, I just thought of something. I own the domain talktoahuman.org. This would be the perfect place to put up interviews with people. That’s not why I got it. I got the domain because I was talking to a youngster about how you can’t even get a live human being on the phone these days (let alone a dead human being), and I said there needs to be a service called “Talk To A Human”. It was just a lark, but this would be a good use for it.

                • Mark

                  Couldn’t reply directly below your suggestion Vicky, but that is a gasser. “Not Working”, indeed! Someone here said she was reading Terkel’s “Hard Times”, so I bought it and just finished it. I haven’t read “Working”.

          • TheGuy

            No birds around me either. It’s freaky weird.

            On the other hand, I have about a 2 hour commute to work, and there are birds there (again… finally). They were gone there for a while too.

            • sixpack

              The owl that usually nests in the tall firs outside my bedroom window (hooting all night, keeping me awake) has been absent this year. The 3 wild turkeys that roamed around free for the last 3 years, are gone as well. The large number of smaller birds that usually play in the arborvitae haven’t been chirping in the mornings either.

              Usually, there are spiders in webs all over the place, one even spun his web right across my front door. Only one or two spiders this year. No swarms of houseflies this year either. Usually, they swarm so badly, that you feel like you walked through a hail storm when you encounter them. Never really had many mosquitoes.

              Feral cat population is down, but that might be due to other things, like catching and fixing the little nuisances…or maybe the mountain lion got some more of them.

              All in all, it’s been weird in the animal kingdom here too.

          • Vicky

            Cue the spooky music…. We have birds, although fewer than normal for this time of year and they’re not eating the oil sunflower seeds we always put out for them. They haven’t even touched the sunflower heads I hang up for them. We have fewer spiders than normal, which would be a blessing except that it’s strange. Ohio has a horrible spider infestation every single fall. Harvest is almost completed which is the signal for them to invade, but not many so far. Last year, I had tremendous rose hips and lots of black “wooly bears”. This year, the hips are smaller, but they’re on every single rose bush, even those hybrid teas which don’t usually set them. We have well water which is always nasty, but is much nastier than usual. We’re bathing in a fog of sulfur and taking only one bath stains the tub with iron oxide. The chemicals are definitely out of whack. The Anna fault runs through our pasture and it’s a small off-shoot connected to the New Madrid, if that can be used as info.

            • tayronachan

              @Everybody, on this bird thing. They go where there is cover, water and food. We have plenty of birds and insects here. We have a bird bath, and some seed put out. We have lots of flowers, so there are lots of butterflys and insects. Although, I think I saw only 5 honey bees this summer.

          • lonelonmum

            Dominoes. Played it as a kid.

            The first domino is down – count the dots till it’s your turn.

            I’m fretting as we are mid relocation. I NEED another couple of months, and I’m not sure we are gonna be blessed with that much time.

            My intention is to be “all good” in our new home, tucked up nice and cosy for the post Xmas period. This is when 9/10 families are skint, utility bills are at their highest, the flu season is in full swing and noone fancies a riot.

            Sadly if it’s gonna be a dramatic shtf fals flag or event, this is when I predict it to happen here in the UK. If the Northern US population (Chicago, New York etc, DC etc) is as similar to the UK one as I think from my travels it is then this is the best time for “the big one” on your side of the pond too.

            Odd tings a go on right now all over that make me feel like tptb are refining their techniques for “the big one”. Noone is looking at India, but just as Cyprus was used as a test run for the “bail in”, so the rupee is being used as a test run for a fooked up currency. India has a growing, aspiring middle-class, is very hardworking, and is the second largest single population after China. Oh it’s technologically advanced too.

            We know Zimbabwe is where a failed currency ends but India is a real time demo of what happens in the middle.

            In other news – they are fretting about bubonic plague in Madagascar of all places. Individuals are dying and the world health organisation is worried about the rats in the prisons becoming vectors for a full on epidemic.

            With today’s global air travel etc this is a risk to us ALL. Especially if a nation like India (with all it’s slums) is infected. India hasn’t the finance to control an epidemic of this traditional grim reaper right now. The politicians eyes are all on its financial crisis. It does have the air travel connections and global business links to spread the contagion across the globe within hours.

            Plague has in the past wiped out 1/3 of the European Population and was responsible for the ushering in of the period in history we call the dark ages. Another outbreak was responsible for the eventual ending of fuedalism, (simply because there weren’t enough serfs left to treat like crap if their overlords wanted their chamber pots emptied and their fields tilled).

            Google “vinegar of the four thieves” and consider your personal quarantine & sanitary arrangements as preppers. Those four horsemen are pounding down upon us. If plague breaks out even the elite will not be as safe and secure as they currently believe themselves to be.

            If you are dependent on welfare, quit messing around and as soon as your card works stock up on as many packs of beans and rice as you are able while you still can. Consider what’s just happened your last warning before SHTF. Sadly the poor, the elderly, the very young and the sick and weak always die first. Check the death figures for the American depression of the last century. You will be “allowed” to starve to death as history rhymes once more. Plant some seeds.

            Plague + financial Armageddon = shtf.

            • Patriot Man

              when are you Brits gonna waste all the “royal” insect inbred jews who live at the palace?

              • Tactical

                I hope soon. The Satanic mother of the ZOGS still resides in the UK.

            • OutWest

              lonelonmum

              Thank you again for your view
              from across the pond.

              Helps give us a global perspective.

              • Anton Hackl

                Amen!!!!

                If you hear from “Burt”….tell her I said GOD BLESS her & her family…

            • Anonymous

              When you’re on foodstamps, you can’t “stock up on food”, Lonemum. They only give you the amount you need and no more… or if you have too much income/your utility bills are not very have, they don’t even give you that much. I only get $17 per month in food stamps– not enough to wet your tongue, hardly.

              • c

                My Local Store: 5#potatoes for .88c each. Limit 2=$1.76
                Store Brand PeanutButter 16-18 z $1.50 each
                2 Loaves of store bread @ .99 each = 1.98. Two pound bag or rice=$2.50 and a 2# bag of navy or pinto beans are each 1.39. They have whole chickens on sale for .99/lb so that is about $4.25 per whole bird. Tuna is .79 per 3oz can so x2= $1.58 and that leaves $2.04.Apples are on sale for .98/lb so 2# of apples because they are healthy and antiviral. That uses up the $17.00.
                You would need to use the chicken for casserole and soup type recipies to make that really stretch. The tuna is not as cost effective as the peanutbutter or chicken so skip that and add a couple pounds of apple, broccoli or cabbage to the list instead.
                Now this is all cooking from scratch and you better already have some spices. Hit the food bank for additional items or boxed or canned items.
                I am a fairly small eater and I could get about 2- 2 1/2 weeks of eating out of this. It is mostly starch and meat so I would definitely include the veggies in place of the tuna.( I would prefer the tuna over the PB but the PB would go farther for the money).
                Just some thoughts.

                • wildman

                  Why not visit the local livestock sale? you can always buy a a crate full of live chickens there real cheap. last time i bought em they were 4. for 10 chickens , course you gotta butcher em but thats no big deal just heat up the water tank an whack some heads . 30 mins a chicken at .75 a piece hell i will take that deal everyday. if i was hungry or if need freezer packs. but then im the wildman

              • Emily

                @ Anonymous ~ I know a woman who gets $300 every month.
                That is to feed her, and her 2 teen age daughters.
                I know a guy who gets $100 a month to feed just himself.
                When I can budget it, I bring in food provisions to our local food cupboard. After the above article, I wonder if it is worth it. Maybe stick to just prepping for myself. What was that biblical saying, “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day , Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”

                • Emily

                  The above people I mentioned live in Upstate New York.

              • sixpack

                Anonymous, yes you can stock up on food stamps. You must buy cheaper stuff than the ready-made convenience food, and no matter what there is one rule that will help anybody stock up, no matter how much money they have…

                You must use less than you buy.

              • Vicky

                “They” think you can make it on $17 a month? Impossible. Maybe you can buy beans and rice with that and eat it all week. There should be some left over, then repeat. You can store up a little that way.

                • sixpack

                  Usually, the reason they only give some people such stupid little amounts, is because they have some other type of income. Apparently, they expect them to use some of their other income for buying food.

                  IMO, $17 in benefits isn’t worth filling out the paperwork or standing in line for. I wouldn’t do it, even if I was broke.

          • patientmomma

            Animals appear normal; Birds still singing in TN, plenty of ants wandering the ground, small animals (coons, possums, squirrels) still gathering food. It’s the humans who are acting weird.

        • cheebo

          The States affected were scattered, which seems odd. If it was a system glitch, it would seem the entire system would be down or at least a contiguous geographical area

          • Dante

            This is only conjecture, I am not sure how the system is actually set up. But I think since each state officially gets to disburse the funds, they choose their own service to handle the cards. It just so happens that those 17 states used the same service.

            Now that is assuming it is a genuine glitch and not a test run for something else later on.

            In the meantime, it is time to think about how fragile the cashless system is. How many servers would an organization, be it government or terrorist, need to disable to shut down food stamps nationwide? My guess would be 3-4. So that leads to question two, what would needed to be disabled to shut down credit cards? Believe me when I say there’s somebody out there who’s wondering this, and not out of idle curiosity. Even if this was totally aboveboard and innocent, you now have people out there who learned a valuable lesson on how to cause nationwide chaos with a minimum of resources.

            And no matter the cause, computer glitch or ‘something else’, this shows how quickly our country can be turned feral, thanks to the massive numbers of people dependent on getting their ‘entitlements’. Nine meals away from anarchy? Not anymore we’re not. Maybe six if we’re lucky.

            Of course, now that this scare happened, all those people are going to stop wasting their food stamps on overpriced over-processed ready-to-make food, expensive foods like lobster and T-bone steaks, and junk food. Instead they will use ‘their’ money to stock up on rice, noodles, canned goods, etc. in case this happens again, right? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, whoops, was afraid I wasn’t going to get through that sentence with a straight face.

            • CWinOR

              I have no doubt it was a test run. Just like the Cypriot “bail-in” was a test run, just like the power outage that affected the east coast commuter rails was a test run (for GridEx), just like the USAF Nuke commander being demoted, just a couple of weeks after Lindsey Graham warns us Charleston S.C could be nuked was a test run. They’re collecting data about how people react. We’re being war-gamed right now. If you want to have an accurate game scenario- you have to have relevant data, right?

          • Mark

            Cheebo,
            It was reported that the 17 states’ systems were handled by Xerox. I guess they are the sysadmins for those and other vendors administer other states.

            • sixpack

              Isn’t Xerox and IBM behind the DoD also? I know it was Xerox data processing equipment in the Captain’s office when I worked there pushing a pencil…IBM has always been DoD (since they’re Nazi-born anyway).

              • Mark

                sixpack,
                Xerox PARC was funded in part by DARPA, and they came up with the Ethernet protocol, among other things.

                • sixpack

                  I knew it was something like that, thanks.

          • The Old Coach

            Correct. Xerox has the contract for those 17 states. They allegedly had a power outage that affected their servers. Or it was a software maintenance update gone wrong. Or it was moths in the relays of their Univacs. (The original derivation of the term “bug” in computerese, BTW.) Or it was the lack of sunspots. We will never know the whole truth. Trial run for the apocalypse? I hope so.

          • JayJay

            Not really–those states are tied in to the same computer.

            • JayJay

              that was to cheebo..oops

        • Paranoid

          During the Spanish Inquisitions the Church actually had a position of Devils advocate; for just a moment I’ll take the job: Consider the possibility there are people in the Gov that really do care about the country. What can they do? No point in yelling FIRE or whatever. You will either be stomped on or ignored. No point in trying to alert the Food Stamp Army, they don’t have the brains or the money, they cannot get out of the cities anyway. If you could do it, might a few crisis help point the way for the smart people and the dumb ones wouldn’t notice, so no panic? Just a consideration.

          • John Q. Public

            I understand your meaning in the context you used the phrase, so please forgive me for noting that the “Devil’s Advocate” had nothing to do with the Holy Inquisition, but with the beatification and canonization of Saints.

            The “Devil’s Advocate” (whose official title was Promotor Fidei, “Promoter of the Faith”) was the prelate assigned to critically examine the lives and works of those who were being considered for canonization or beatification. The “Devil’s Advocate” was expected to find evidence, if any existed, of a sinful life or heresies, “skeletons in the closet” that would disqualify one from being raised to Sainthood as an example of how we should live our lives.

            Perhaps an interesting aside for Catholics, since Wojtyla the Worst (John Paul II) the office and role of Promotor Fidei and the requirement for 3 miracles have been eliminated. Since the “Second” Vatican Council, the process of beatification and canonization is just a white-wash, nothing more than a “politically correct” geopolitical “saint factory,” explaining why such Communists and Freemasons as Roncalli/John XXIII, heterodox and derelict Wojtyla/JP II, monsters like Escriva, and sodomites like Montini/Paul VI have advanced in beatification and canonization. The Novus Ordo’s phony process has tightly the closet door so nobody will see the skeletons in the closet.

            • John Q. Public

              …has tightly locked the closet door so nobody will see the skeletons in the closet.

              So that the anti-Christ’s Novus Ordo (“New Order”) and “abomination of desolation” can advance, so that the horned and fork-tailed “Spirit of Vatican 2” revolution can be ratified, some of the worst men are now called “Blessed” and “Saint.”

              • steve

                John, pack your bags and take a vacation in Damascus.

                • Them Guys

                  John Q Public: It sounds like the vatican after vatican-II(jew) has also adopted a type of affirmative action and quotas plan for sainthood now eh.

                  kinda like the miss america pagent when each new years winner must be a diffeent race than the prior year to keep folks from squaking as sore losers.

                  After Two Mother Teresas for sainthood, they must include at least One jessie jackson or martin Looter King jr.

                • John Q. Public

                  @ Them Guys

                  Yes, Wojtyla the Worst made a joke of sainthood. Every time he set foot outside of the Vatican, his “saint factory” would quickly scare up a dozen “saints” to thrill the country he visited. Understand that the world loved JP II because he subverted the Faith. At the same time he was on ski trips and galavanting about the world, he let the Church burn closing his eyes and holding his hand against heretics and sodomite rapists of children. Now the Novus Ordo wants to pretend he was a Saint. Awful.

                  The canonization process was a very careful process that often took a century or more of sober investigation—until Wojtyla the Worst (John Paul II) tore the Church to shreds. He made it a political tool. While he canonized monsters like Escriva, he removed genuine saints like St. Christopher, St. Philomena, and the martyred St. Simon of Trent. This in no way reflects poorly on genuine saints like Padre Pio.

                  Interesting side note about St. Simon of Trent, the son of a Chief Rabbi of Rome recently proved that the child St. Simon of Trent was ritually murdered by crucifixion and bleeding so that the rabbis could use his blood in their other black magic rituals. (link to follow)

                • tayronachan

                  @Steve, “take a vacation in Damascus” LOL!

            • John W.

              It must suck to be you. Miserable paranoid with no friends and eating their own boogers. Either the Jews or now the Catholics are behind everything. Freaking maroon.

              • Patriot Man

                @jw – who do YOU think it is – fool?

                • John Q. Public

                  @ Kevin 2

                  First, even the thoroughly homosexualized USCCB (United States Conference of Catholic Bishops) estimates that 50% of Novus Ordo “priests” (in quotes because their Novus Ordo ordinations are likely invalid) are sodomites. Catholic organizations who resist the infestation estimate over 90%. Since over half of homosexuals have sex with minors, there is a problem with “priests” and prelates (in your words, “leadership”)

                  Second, more than collection plate money is being diverted to sodomy-rape payoffs and judgments. In many US dioceses dozens of parish properties have been sold off at fore sale prices.

                  Meanwhile…

                  Third, there is an enormous problem with “Priest” embezzlers who live lavish lifestyles—expensive prostitutes, luxury vacations, resort properties for their catamites, etc.

                  Fourth, far from being “silent,” Pope Pius XI’s anti-Nazi encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge was read from every pulpit in Germany, enraging Hitler to action against Catholics. While the numbers of Judaic victims and means of their deaths have been seriously exaggerated and outright fabricated, Catholic monasteries and convents did indeed hide many of those being sought by the Nazis. Vatican gold was used to ransom Jews from the Nazis in Italy. The Chief Rabbi of Rome was so impressed with Catholic assistance that he converted to Catholicism and took the Christian name Eugenio in honor of Pope Pius XII’s given name, Eugenio Pacelli. Golda Meir and many others credited the Catholic Church for great help during the war. You’ll notice how the synagogue of Satan has repaid our kindness and charity.

                  Though we Catholics do oppose their genocidal Master Race creed, we do our best to offer true Christian charity to those in need. Sad to say, Naziism and Judaism are Master Race “peas in a pod.”

                  Fifth, the reform of simony and indulgences did not require ripping over 7 chapters from the Bible in a pathetic attempt to justify a slew of man-made false religions.

                  Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

                • John Q. Public

                  typo:

                  “…at fire sale prices”

              • Anonymous

                Catholic “priests” are the abomination– sexually abusing little kids. I don’t know how anyone nowdays could have the conscience to call themselves Catholic.

                • Patriot Man

                  Anon – New bumper sticker just for the dumb cathoholics: “I’m a catholic and I support pedophiles”

                • John Q. Public

                  @ Anonymous

                  “Catholic” priests who sodomize children are indeed a monstrous abomination, but keep this in mind—Catholic priests who sodomize children do so against Catholic teaching.

                  On the other hand, rabbis who sodomize children do so in complete agreement with their “holy” books.

                  “If a boy under the age of nine perpetrated sodomy upon an adult, the adult is not liable for punishment, for the intercourse of a boy under nine years of age is not legally an act of intercourse. Since a child less than nine years old cannot commit sodomy, he can also not be the object of sodomy….This Baraita supports Rav, for it teaches that if a man engaged in homosexual intercourse with a child under the age of nine, he is exempt from liability.”
                  Sanhedrin 54b

                  “…intercourse with a boy under nine years old is not considered a significant sexual act…”
                  Ketubot 11b

                  “If a girl is less than three years old, it is permitted to be secluded with her. Likewise, if a boy is less than nine years old a woman is permitted to be alone with him.”
                  Kitzur Shulchan Aruch: A Classic Guide to Jewish Law (Metsudah Publications, 1996) v. 2, p. 1023

                  “If a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl, it is nothing, for having intercourse with a girl less than three years old is like putting a finger in the eye.”
                  Ketubot 11b

                  “A father may betroth his daughter without her consent as long as she is a minor, and she also remains under his authority as long as she is a maiden. . . . [I]f she is three years and one day old, she may be betrothed by an act of intercourse with the consent of her father.” Maimonides “the Great Rambam,” Sefer Nashim 3:11

                • Anton Hackl

                  —Anony-mouse—

                  Yet most/many here, are aware of who possess the “CHUTZPAH” to proudly proclaim….they/we are jewish!

                  …and the rest of us gentiles better not “damn well forget their status”!!!!!!! CUI BONO….understand???

                  Ahhhhhhhh!!!…such are the benefits of false victim-hood, in a world dominated by the so called “CHOSEN OF GOD”.

                  FYI, the mainstream Catholic church has been co-opted by the synagogue of satan types (see V-II church)…as has all other Christian denominations. Never doubt!

                  Know, that they(the self-chosen) eventually destroy everything that is good/Godly & sooner or later…they “WILL” destroy your paradigm/belief system….that is, unless they own it outright!!!

                  ********************************************************

                  Know this…

                  …you sleep, while they (the self-proclaimed chosen of GOD) conspire against you, your Savior, your kindred & endeavor to undermine your religious dogmas…to their sole benefit.

                  …wake-up, time is very, very short!

                  ********************************************************

                  …and eternity is an awful long time for you to contemplate the “errors” of your preacher’s sermons regarding (false)doctrines that you & your fellow congregants accept as the “GOSPEL TRUTH”…

                  …….because you were lied to….& accepted/believed it, as truth w/o validating/evaluating such against NT scripture!!!

                  ********************************************************

                  It’s an accepted norm that most everyone here, endeavors to reach/abode in the ‘Nirvana’…aka the good neighborhood, per the afterlife! Yes???

                  That said…thus it mandates that we “EACH AS INDIVIDUALS” seek to know the truth!
                  …and the truth requires that we research/pray/ask the creator for wisdom to discern…his truth.

                  …then test the answers!!!

                  Then ask for forgiveness & divine mercy!

                  ********************************************************

                  P.S.> Back off from “John Q”…he’s light years beyond you!!!!!!!

                • Kevin2

                  John Q Public

                  The Catholic leadership hid these facts to protect “The Church” at the expense of children and justice. That in and of itself is illegal but is not being criminally prosecuted. Anyone attempting to mitigate this by finding another religion more corrupt or outright unethical misses the point.

                • John Q. Public

                  @ Kevin2

                  What is your point? That because there are monstrous sodomite “priests,” we should turn a blind eye to genocide and economic crimes against humanity? …that we should turn a blind eye to a religion that teaches that only their followers are human and the rest of us should be killed?

                • Kevin2

                  John Q Public

                  Its not the Priests, its the leadership in the Catholic Church that swept it under the rug and shipped the offenders to an unsuspecting Parish and their children. In the meantime they have no problem using old ladies Social Security money from the collection hat to pay for the lawsuits. Oh money regardless of intent fills the void. Yes collection money is paying for the lawsuits.

                  Who cares if the Islamics are worse? What the hell do these Priests, Bishops and the rest have to do with crimes against humanity? If anything their organization was conspicuously silent as an organization (in spite of a few brave Priests) when Hitler was exterminating people. As an organization they said nothing about Vietnam.

                  An annulment is going for $2000. “Oh son the Lord forgives you”. “That I’ll be $100 please”.

                  Sorry if the truth hurts.

                • John Q. Public

                  Kevin2 wrongly said: “Anyone attempting to mitigate this by finding another religion more corrupt or outright unethical misses the point.” Kevin2 himself misses the point.

                  The existence of one evil does not demand silence about other evils.

                  We may—and we should—and I do speak out and act against both evils: the sodomy-rape of children and Master Race creeds that commit crimes against humanity, including economic crimes against humanity.

              • Tactical

                John W, Since you are on a low IQ side, let me share the following logic with you since what John Q shares is way about your head.

                Q: Why do Jewish men like to watch porno movies backward? A: They like the part where the whore gives the money back.

                • Patriot Man

                  Tac – that is simply hilarious. I’m gonna use it. TY!

                • Not so Much

                  Yea, you prolly shouldn’t claim others are ‘on the low IQ side’ and then parade a stupid anti-semitic joke as ‘logic’.

                  Idiot.

              • John Q. Public

                @ John W.

                I call you out on your straw man fallacy.

                Let’s try this again v e r y s l o w l y .

                Understand that SOME people are behind earthly events, not “all” Jews and not “all” Catholics.

                Satan wars against God. His accomplices on Earth are many, but “command and control” on earth is vested in what God Himself calls twice (Apocalypse 3:9 & 2:9) “the synagogue of Satan, those who call themselves Jews, but are not, and do lie.” Just as Jesus Himself said, they “void the commandments of God for the traditions of men” (Mark 7:9)

                Heretics remove themselves from the Church, so, in the same way that Talmudists are not true “Jews,” modernist heretics are not true Catholics.

                Believe God or believe Satan (and Satan’s accomplices). Your choice. Your soul. Your fate.

                • Them Guys

                  John Q Public: I for one enjoy your posts info etc. I was raised catholic from birth, untill I quit going to church at age 15 yrs old. I have been around catholics in family and friends most of my life and I must tell you John Q, I have Never met nor heard from any catholic person any of the vast knowledge you have to offer. I Learn something new every time I read your posts nearly.

                  I am also Glad you posted that reply concerning Lonly Mums prior post about a difference betwen jews vs zionists. I was looking for a good example I can post to her that would explain exactly what you did in your reply to her posting.

                  I would think most folks to be glad to get informed on how us gentiles and christians are duped so badly when told that Torrah jews are the good ones as they obey or go by the 5 OT moses books in the bible.

                  I already knew of what You posted John Q, regarding that issue. Yes gentiles and especially evangelical christians are being Duped by a switcheroo when told to believe in such a major difference. The Bottom Line is, as many rabbis have been quoted to say, that 99+% of folks who call themselves a jew believe and go by the Babylonian Talmud period. No matter what “sect” of judaisim they are into or of, babylonian talmud reigns Supreme amoung all jewish folks, even atheistic jewish folks.

                  But some jewish folks Tell evangelicals that its the “Torrah” they go by, because the jews Know that 99% of christians or evangelicals automatically think that means the first 5 old testement books moses wrote. But in Reality “Torrah” means “Laws” and besides Laws to jewish folks Torrah means their babylonian Talmud books.

                  They use that confusion to cause christians and especially evangelical pro jew folks to believe that is Proof solid, that jews basically are almost the exact same as a christian because they go by the old testement mosses books, and ALL jews reject is, the entire New testement books. Its a massive huge Deception to keep gentile christians deluded and Duped. And not one in 10,000 evangelical pastors Today will Ever tell their christian flocks these factual Truths. One may wonder Why pastors are continueing to Keep their church members in the Dark on so important an issue eh?

                  I too wondered about that issue. Then I got tired of waiting for todays pastors to begin to ACT like a true man of God teacher, and found it out on my own. Good thing I did eh as I hate being Lied to or duped! Although by the many Red Thumbs in evidence of late, it does seem that Many folks Do enjoy remaining Duped and deluded be it by Pastors or jews or BOTH!

                  Maybe thay Missed Christs own Words of “KNOW the TRUTH as it WILL set YOU Free!”…Perhaps some prefer jewish lies and fables I suppose. At least there will Never be any shortages of jewish Lies and Fables eh! (hollywood alone, has made Over 400+ HolyHoax movies so far, of the biggest hoax, scam, swindle in all of recorded history! so yep zero shortages are expected of a mass continuation source of jewish fables and Lies).

                  Which Proves as You said there are simply zero major differences from jew to zionists. The Only difference I ever saw or read of is that a very Small group in america, aprox 8000-10,000 total call themselves “Anti-Zionists” jews. BUT…The Only main difference from pro zionists jews acording to their antizionist website, is that the anti zios do Not agree that todays jews has a right to Return to israel the state.

                  Those antizionists do not agree that the holyhoax of six million had anything legit to do with a return to israel by any jews since God caused them to get Booted out in 70 AD, and had their 2nd temple destroyed as a Punishment etc….But that seems to be the ONLY major thing thats “different” from jews to anti zionists jews and it is acording to Them at Their jewish website’s jewish rabbis etc.

                  A fast easy “test” method is just go ASK any jewish folks anywheres if they agree with or Reject their Talmudic “Master Race Jews” belief compared to gentile Goyims?…See How many jews say they do not agree with Talmud and talmudic Rabbis!….Good luck, finding that proverbial Needle in Haystack!

                  PS: John W KNOWS we are Correct on all we post, And John W KNOWS none of us several persons that post jew info etc has Ever claimed its “All the jews” nor “All Blacks”.

                  oh yes John W KNOWS that alright and its reason he never backs his nasty replies to you or me et al, with anything Other than simple snide remarks or charges like his last reply was to You John Q. No matter how much evidence proof or names etc you provide, John W is never going to admit we are correct. Its not due to ignorance but rather it is due to hes STUBORN and has as most folks do, a Lifetime of delusions imbedded into our minds by hollywood and MSM jew propagandas. And some folks like he will Never change beliefs once that jew propaganda message sets like Cement into their mind.

                  Its quite like typical liberalizim in that it causes some type permanant changes in ones mind and thinking process.

                  Once it takes hold and sets like cement, even a jack Hammer sometimes will not crack even the surface. Oh well we Tried at least eh!

                  One Gold Star each for JQP and Them Guys.

                  TWO Demerits for Johnny W!!

                • John Q. Public

                  @ Them Guys

                  You nailed it on every point.

                  The sad thing is that in the days before Vatican 2 even Catholic grammar school children knew these truths. The Novus Ordo has nested itself in the one-world-religion to capitulate to Satan and his synagogue. As I have mentioned in posts a few days ago, even the SSPX, once the post-Vatican 2 shining beacon of perpetual Catholic truth, has been infested with Zionists, Judaizers, and Rothschild-connected money.

                  As the reign of Elizabeth I in the 16th century and Vatican 2 in the 20th century have shown, it only takes 1 generation for Catholics to fall apart and drink Satan’s Kool Aid.

            • Patriot Man

              JQB – two J’s are responsible for the hell we are living in. jews and jesuits. Both are on the same team. Both will ALL pay with their lives and the final extermination of their kind.

              • Tactical

                Amen BROTHER.

            • Paranoid

              Thanks for the info. I’m a pagan so what so I know?

              • John Q. Public

                The practicing Catholics here will pray for your conversion. 🙂

          • old guy

            Yes you are on to something. I think that if the checks & freebees failed to materialize at the first of November it might be a blessing. I it was only a day late. Those who receive those stipends are complacient. the blindly have faith that the government will provide no matter what. If there was a delay they would be severely shaken. the would be forced out of their comfort zone. They hopefully would possibly start to prep for a what if?

        • possee

          Paranoid

          Manos is fine ,as we correspond every week..

          The situation in Greece is one of survival,massive taxation and massive unemployment as the banks carve up the spoils..he warns that we are in the cross hairs as well.

          Someone posted on Daisy’s site that Obama met with all high level banking officials this week due to concerns of the massive derivative exposure and not about the debt ceiling/budget/partial shutdown debacle..

          There’s probably more to it than meets the eye on this ebt crash..remember, JPMorgan Chase is the bank of the ebt card system and coincidentally has the largest derivative exposure of reportedly 90Trillion!! worldwide..

          And then we have another ‘more to it” with 7 Generals fired by the regime lately…most likely those who are not in”lock step”for what’s to unfold…

          Strange days indeed..

          Given the testimonies above,at least we’re prepared food wise..

          Computer glitch my ass..

          possee

          • braveheart

            Possee, thanks for the update on Manos. I was wondering about him.

        • muddy

          @Paranoid,
          I hope it is all of the larger blue/democrat states. I was happy to read California is one of the states listed. While I’m sorry that some are having to do without food the system has been abused enough that people buy non-essential items. This feels a little like payback. Paybacks are hell. I realize I sound to some readers like a cold hearted bastard. I make no apologies. For too long the parasites have been working the system, especially the illegal Mexicans in California. Hopefully the “non-essential” folks at USDA won’t be able to resolve this issue too soon. Let people wake up to the fact that sucking on the public tit has consequences.

        • MX Mike

          Stopped by a walmart in Arkansas…. sign on the door said they were sorry, but no longer accepting Oklahoma EBT cards.

        • JayJay

          The affected states include Alabama, California, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas, Ohio, Michigan and Virginia.

          All other ebt state members can have their cheetohs and potato chips.

          • sixpack

            I wonder if there is anything else those states have in common, besides xerox and ebt…something that might make them a target.

        • Me here

          Yes, first dip a toe then dive in…head first!

        • Yeti

          i also have been looking for a list of the states affected by this. i do; however,have my guesses as to which ones are being done in by the supposed new mommy/daddy of these people

        • KY Mom

          Paranoid,

          According to an article, here are the states that were affected by the EBT shutdown.

          “People in Ohio, Michigan and 15 other states found themselves unable to use their food stamp debit-style cards on Saturday, after a routine test of backup systems by vendor Xerox Corp. resulted in a system failure.”

          “…the affected states also included Alabama, California, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Maryland, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Texas and Virginia.”
          boston dot cbslocal dot com

      • Wolf359

        I was at a grocery store when this happened. People just abandoned full carts and food on the checkout table.

        It was like the show the walking dead. A herd of ebt zombies just walked out shocked ebt was down.

        I also saw an early 20 something college kid with a cart full of gatorades just leave too.

        • Be informed

          Just wait until that sign says, sorry no credit cards accepted, CASH ONLY.

          • braveheart

            BTW, BI, any word on Manos?

            • possee

              braveheart

              Read my above comment to Paranoid regarding Manos.

              possee

          • JustMe

            Just wait till it says RFID Transfer Only…

            • Ugly

              Just Me.

              That is where this is all heading. I just wish folks at Sunday School knew this. But first you have to take Revelation and Daniel seriously.

              • KY Mom

                JustMe and Ugly,

                Unfortunately, that is where I see things heading too. I believe those dependent on SNAP(food stamps) or other government programs will be the first to be pushed onto the getting the RFID chip.

                I see taking the chip being introduced as voluntary, maybe with some incentive attached. Get xx extra dollars this month when you get the chip.

                • Anonymous

                  KY Mom & Anton.

                  The ‘Chip’ is here and has been for awhile. My opinion, it will be implemented in a positive way. In other words, to get Govt assistance you will need the ‘Chip’. The ‘Chip’ will keep track of all your stuff and you can even view your portfolio on your iPhone much like facebook.

                  The ‘Chip’ will also have GPS, so you are tracked all the time. You see, if you get kidnapped or something bad happens your whereabouts are instantly known. Thus this should deter crime. Good, right?

                  Who would rob a store if they have a ‘Chip’ knowing full and well the Govt knows your exact whereabouts at that exact time. They wont have to guess who did it, they’ll know who did it.

                  Anybody needing healthcare, foodstamps, or any govt assistance will need to do so via the ‘Chip’. Therefore you will see millions and millions apply in the first two years of implementation, especially if done so during an economic collapse and depression.

                  In two years, all Americans would have the ‘Chip’ except maybe around 20 million. Those dissidents would be sought after. When captured, probably done away with. Buying and selling only thru that system.

                  How long with this take. Don’t know. But obviously it is coming due to the collapse of dollar and other currencies with it.

                  Now I’m depressed?

              • Anton Hackl

                Ugly….

                Bingo!!!

                That’s exactly what their “END GAME” is all about.

                Your reference to the Sunday-school crowd vs. Revelations(Apocalypse) & Danial, is noteworthy indeed…as the synagogue of satan crowd are getting desperate to implement/fast-forward their genocidal agenda/master plan…and what better way to facilitate such…than to “CRASH” the (financial)system?

                ….then digitize it!!!

                Their media outlets(MSM) induce “FEAR & CONCERN” unto a mostly ill-prepared & ignorant populace…said manifold themes are picked-up & commented upon by their paid shills & propaganda commentators…blame is shifted onto those who know the truth, who ultimately are demonized smeared/painted with the broad brush of false accusation.
                Their aim is the creation of division amid the peasantry.

                …then…”MEGA-CRASH”…chaos rules per their time table/stop-watch and at the opportune moment, after much bloodshed/murder/mayhem/emotional-societal pain…..’wham’…they present “THE ANSWER” to said global woes.

                …that being the Mark of the Beast!

                ********************************************************

                …*that none may by or sell, lest they possess such!!!

                ********************************************************

                Folks, listen-up!

                Do you really believe the various govt “fusion centers” coming online recently (or soon to be) & the NSA super data collection center (in Utah, I think) is/are for scooping up all domestic e-mails & cell phone calls only???

                If truth were known, I’d bet the farm that the combined commuting power of said centers….is far & away the most powerful in this solar system!!!

                ….and it would merely require a few lines of software code in a sub-routine program….to activate/monitor the realm……..

                …of the BEAST!!!!!

                ********************************************************

                To all here, I say…..Prepare & GOD BLESS!!!!

                • Anton Hackl

                  …OOPS!!!!

                  Sorry folks! Should have read “computing power”…….not commuting power.

                  …sheesh….my bad!

                • Ugly

                  KY Mom & Anton.

                  I agree with your analyses. Keep prepping. Talk to others that have a willing ear.

                  Good luck.

            • Patriot Man

              The day the enemy tries chipping ppl is the day the explosion of revolution will happen. Just wait.

              • Them Guys

                Anton: Nice to see you posting again after so long away eh! I agree with all you guys on the Mark of beast issues. I been trying to tell people this exact same scenario for 40 yrs now. Its just in the last 5-10 yrs that many more awoke to cashless and chips etc.

                I notice though that there still are several TV preacher shows, a couple with massive huge followings, that keep trying to convince folks and christians especially, that the mark aka “666” has zero to do with computers-implant chips-rfid-or any cashless money systems!

                What They keep saying it will be is basically the Mark IN the back of right hand means the labor work you do that benifits the beast and as to the mark in the Forehead it simply means its about what a person “Thinks/Believes” as forehead only represents the human “Mind”!

                Then they tell folks it boils down to what Day you believe in your “Mind”/forehead, is the true sabbath day. IE: They say the sabath is saturday NOT sunday. And to accept the beast Mark means you agree to worship on sundays instead of the Proper day of saturday!

                I got a few such in my reg us mailbox, each was aprox 20+ pages long, with constant repititions of sabbath day is really saturday, a whole lots of pro jew mambo jambo, on and on for 20 pages. Finally at the last end paragraph it tells you that to accept the mark-666 simply means you agree and believe in your mind(forehead) to do church on sundays and thats the beast system aka the Mark!

                Yet none of over 20 pages long did they Ever mention anything even remotely related to “Buying and Selling” as is written its all about!. The Only place buy or sell was mentioned was in very first sentence where they copy the exact bible verse that mentions “All must accept the number or name or mark to be allowed to Buy or sell anything”…Thats the Only place they mentioned it!

                How can anybody think the beast Mark has anything to do with which day a person thinks is proper for sabath worship day?….I think they who say such as just More Judiaiser pastors the bible Warns against trusting.

                They are trying to Con christians to go Back under old testement mosaic Laws of deuteronomy and leviticus etc and saturday jew-sabbath day to go to church. The bible warns to avoid such pastors like a Plague.

                I hope not too many christians falls for such crapola spew and think a implant chip is A-OK cause pastor says the Mark is only about saturday vs sunday beliefs!

                Phony preachers are worse than MSM and crooked Polititions. All are traitors needing to be Lined up at a wall. Phony preachers as the First bunch.

                • Ugly

                  angelo.

                  You opened my eyes about the 501c. And also on preaching on shortwave and Baldwin. Thanks dude.

                  PS. I was raised Catholic too.

                • Anton Hackl

                  Them Guys…

                  Kudos my brother, we understand the truth!

                  ———————————————————-

                  Understand…the issues of scriptural obfuscation are “NOT” limited to preachers/pastors only…but include priests as well!!!!

                  That said……..

                  The Son of GOD warned all humanity by saying: (I am paraphrasing here, per Revelations/Apocalypse)….

                  …”and those days shall be shortened, lest even the “ELECT” shall be deceived!

                  ———————————————————-

                  …sorry, I cannot quote the exact chapter/verse, per the above…but the fact remains…Christ identified his enemies…and his killers…& in the book of Matthew they identify themselves & accepted the blame & took responsibility and passed it onto their future progeny/generations for murdering/killing Jesus Christ…..

                  (Matthew 27:11 thru 27:25…..read it & weep!)

                  #25…(paraphrasing)… “yeah, let his blood be upon us & upon our children”…(self admitted murder & hence damnation).

                  ———————————————————-

                  My apologies to “Mac” & everyone for this off-topic episode.
                  …was/am merely commenting upon truth.
                  If nothing else, please everyone who reads this post……THINK FOR YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  The future/afterlife location, of your soul depends upon it……………..

                  ———————————————————

                  TG…….get thine ass out of Michigan ASAP!!!! As long term survival prospects are dim, being that close to the arctic circle…..

                  LOL…you understand, right?

          • slingshot

            BI
            What a glorious day that will be. A head slapping, bone shaking, eye opening day.

          • Wolf359

            I’ve worried about that before in regards to my business. I need and use credit for stop gap funding and expensive materials I need for work. Nothing else.

            I don’t have a 100k dda balance to bankroll my company and if credit dried up I would have to let go nearly all my employees as my cash reserves go to payroll. Then I’d take off my slacks, put on work pants and a tool belt and get at it.

            Fortunately I am 30 and still able to do the manual labor in my industry.

            • lastmanstanding

              Wolf, I shitcanned my line of credit and then blew my bankers mind with Rivero’s “All wars are banker wars” delivery. He also got the spiel on fractional reserve banking, usury, etc., etc.

              He’s still in shock.

          • Ugly

            Just wait until that sign says ‘No Cash’ and ‘No Credit Card’ and ‘No EBT’

            Purchases by National ID Card and RFID Banking Chip only….

            • gone under

              @ Ugly. then you barter to someone who has a RFID and needs something you have….Lead. its the other precious metal.

          • Barn Cat

            Wait until it says, “Gold or silver only” and “US Dollars Not Accepted”.

            • Them Guys

              Wait till you see DHS-Videos at every wall mart, and Billboard signs along every major road and freeway that says “ATTEN! Patrotic American members! DHC now has an #800 Phone number for Your anonamous use in TURNING IN All persons you know of that are Stlll Refuseing to accept Our wonderfull Implant Chip!”

              “DHC has now been authorised by the Diktator Himself, Mr. Resident monkyboy Hobammy! To Begin to Offer to all usa citizen members who Have the Implant Cip installed already, an Award of an xtra $5000.00 for every non chipped anti american Militia persons attempting to avoid our great new ID system!…For every Non chipped militia person turned into our #800 hotline 24/7/365, you shall recieve our $5000 award electronically debited Into Your personal monthly expence account!”

              As our wonderfull Leader says often, “A swell citizen will Always do the Right thing, and alert DHS-Jackboots to all unchipped persons in order to assist DHC-AIPAC-SPLC Operators in maintaining USA Safty for All!”

              “So begin the HUNT all you chipped Patriots!”

              Good luck in Any type job or self employed work or buisness then eh. Even a 30 yr stock of food and ammo etc will do little good once Nobody can BUY Or SELL Anything unless he/she accept the…666-MARK! aka chip implant device. Welcome to a cashless world where ONLY computerized debits will function worldwide.

              And Barter?….With no car-gas-insurance papers-lic plate-how does one do Barter unless its within Walking distances from your bug out local?

              A 6 month walk from eastern usa to arizona or texas to barter trade Your can beans for My silver dime?

              All while You are HUNTED like an animal for refusal to accept their Mark/666 implant chip? Better RE-think that.

              • Ugly

                Them Guys.

                This post of yours reminds me of the short story ‘The Most Dangerous Game’ where the island owner sets loose a folk on an island and then tries to hunt him down thinking this is such a great game.

                Jesus said in the last days even your own family and [best friends] will turn on you. Its happened before, and it will happen again.

                • Them Guys

                  Ugly: Where are any angelo posts at? I saw your repky to an angelo yet have not seen a post by any such angelo?

                • Ugly

                  Them Guys.

                  Probably a Freudian slip with the thought process.

                  There was a blogger here about 8 months ago with the screen-name, Angelo Mysterio. Your writing style is very similar to Angelo’s. Thus, when I read your postings I often am remembering some of the posts that Angelo wrote.

                  I’ll be careful the next time I respond to one of your posts.

        • old guy

          I don’t care who ya are that’s funny.

      • Mclovin

        Bring it biatches!

      • Man on the inside

        It seems that the water is being tested. This could be just another glitch brought to you by the same C- students who work for the governments IT departments… (they did such a great job on the Health Care Exchange system…). But it does seem that things are picking up a bit. PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS…… and maybe steer clear of Wal-Mart for a bit….

        • Ghostrighter

          Conversation between Obama and House Speaker John Boehner.

          Obama: Raise the debt ceiling Boehner with no strings attached.

          Boehner: Mr. President not until you listen to what the republicans have to say.

          Obama: Screw you and the republicans, I just cancelled EBT cards in 17 RED states.

          Boehner: You you you can’t do that!

          Obama: Give me what I want or I will cancel all EBT cards and then there will be total chaos.

          Boehner: You wouldn’t dare.

          Obama: What did you think I was going to do with 2 billion rounds of hollow points. ha ha ha

          • The Old Coach

            And Boehner the Weeper should say “Great – they’re your constituency, after all!”.

      • Jim

        I went to a grand opening of a Ross Dress For Less store today, right on the edge of the hood, hundreds, and I mean hundreds of people were buying clothes. I stayed for a bit talking to the loss prevention guy, noticing all the EBT cards flying around. When I asked him about it, he said EBT is used on average 60% of the time for payments at the Ross stores…60% folks.

        Once that EBT stops working due to the collapse of the dollar, I will short the hell out of their stock LOL. And I will bug in for a while, it will be chaos on the streets in 3-5 days.

        Anyone tried that survival “mindset” card game I recommended yet? Sharpen your wits boys and girls, the dollar collapse is coming.

        http://conflictedthegame.com

        • think about it

          ebt cards are also where people receive their childsupport payment from the ex spouse,,the foodstamp dollar will not buy clothing

          • cheebo

            the government issues an unrestricted card in addition to food EBT card for the purchase of non essentials like clothing, auto repair. it can be used for anything.

            • Anonymous

              You can’t even get HOT food with EBT cards! (Foods cooked at stores).

          • Prepared Pastor

            EBT cards are not only loaded with SNAP: Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (food stamps), but also TANF: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. TANF is a cash benefit that may be used for clothing, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. Anything that can be purchased with a bank debit card can be bought with TANF funds on a EBT card.

      • wrong

        Oh No!!!! Blacks can’t feeds the kids!!!!

        • OutWest

          …… and the tarbaby – he say nothin’

          • SWFL

            How many people today won’t catch that literary reference
            and call you a racist bigot?

          • PO'd Patriot

            Br’er Rabbit, in the Briar Patch.

            • Smokey

              Br’er Rabbit, he lay low.

              Good OPSEC.

        • senormechanico

          She sure has nice big gold earrings, nail polish and clothes though.

          • Patriot Man

            Senor – Ho nales bee shinee an all cuz she gots ta bee raddy fo dat new mans fo my next chirruns. Dat ways ah gits mo dem cards fum da gubmint.

        • Patriot Man

          @think – Perfect.

          • Patriot Man

            Cancel –

            I meant @wrong: Perfect.

        • Them Guys

          Less tanned lighter skined african blacks will still be able to pass themselves off as a Mexican Illeagle and use their “LaRAZA” EBT cards. LaRaza in english is “THE Race”!

          Lets try to start up a WHITEYS club similar to THE Race aka LaRaza and see what develops.

          The White King is in Check, playing against a Stacked deck.

          • Ugly

            Them Guys.

            You were the 500th post, not sixpack (he posted on another subject). Congrats, but no prizes.

      • azam1986

        I love seeing the beer in the carts. I also like to see the loud mouth all dressed up with her nails all done. It looks like we have to provide for her 6 kids. How did this become our problems. Looks like she has money to dress well and do her nails.

        • Patriot Man

          @azam – How did this become our problems?

          Just go “ax” them.

          • Them Guys

            AZAM: How this got to be Your problem? Go Research…”Khazar jews and Slavery in america”

            Once you learn Who brought african slaves into the usa, the rest all falls into place like puzzle pieces.

        • Hedge

          If you care to know how this became our problem today, you can thank numbnuts Lyndon baines Johnson for creating the program in 1965 to forever secure the negro vote for the democratic party.

        • Patriot Man

          Dollars – from that link:

          “From 7 to 9 p.m., people were loading up their carts, but when the cards began showing limits again around 9, one woman was detained because she rang up a bill of $700.00 and only had .49 on her card. She was held by police until corporate Walmart said they wouldn’t press charges if she left the food.”

          • DollarstoDonuts

            But how much walked out the doors before 9? The article reports that WALMART CORPORATE said to let it go!

        • JayJay

          Then if you must apply for ACA, couldn’t you use library computer??
          Not every person has an email account.

      • DollarstoDonuts

        I just LOVE the MANICURE and STYLED hair and the outfit of thewomaninthe video!

      • Warthog dog eater

        There’s always free cheese in the mouse trap

      • t

        How are you going to feed YOUR kids!?!

        Maybe you should have thought about that before having 6 kids and no income. Or maybe you should have thought about that before buying a designer sweater. Or maybe even before buying that designer purse.

        Instead you decided to have 6 children neither you or the father(s) could support. Instead you decided to rely on the rest of society to support you.

        What are you going to do when there is nobody left willing to work and support you and your 6 children?

    2. angrycitizen

      Conditioning… No more, no less.

      Teaching the people to take this kind if crap without a riot, and also testing if this crap, invoked on a limited scale, will cause riots.

      So far, so good…

      Next step: bank holidays. Test-run.

      • JustMe

        Pavlov and Hegel would be proud…

        • NoRregretVet

          You are so RIGHT !!! I am just so glad that I understand what you are saying !!!

          Hegelian Dialectic is and has been used for ever….and when I atttempt to explain it to friends and family….They just stare at me like I am from another Planet !!! Sheeple…..you just gotta luv em !!!

          People Better Wake Up !!! Itsa Comin Folks !!!

          • The Old Coach

            You may wanna learn to luv ’em sauteed in butter and garlic, because the way things are going they may become your main source of protein.

        • NC joe

          Pavlov indeed would be proud. The responses on this sight are pure Pavlovian. You dogs salivate at the mere sound of a bell even though no meat (actual facts) are provided.

          • Unreconstructed Southron

            You’re the dog…returning to your own vomit over and over.

            • Patriot Man

              @U.S. – Try not to insult Dogs dude. I would rather live around Dogs anytime v. homo sapiens. At least Dogs don’t get hooked on booze, crack and MAKE themselves vomit, or destroy the environment.

              ONLY the disgusting wretched sick Animal called homo sapiens does that, and far more. WE are the WORST species om the planet. Period.

              • Unreconstructed Southron

                Sorry, Patriot. You’re right. What was I thinking?

              • Not so Much

                At least Dogs don’t … MAKE themselves vomit.

                Apparently you’ve never seen a dog eat grass.

          • braveheart

            NC joe, f#$% you! You’re the dog who sits in his own vomit 24/7 so go f#$% yourself!

            • U dog.

              I know you are but what am I. Braveheart argues like a 6 year old.

    3. RICH99

      This is seriously getting crazy now , so much happening in rapid succession !!!
      Missing nukes , government shutdown , park closures , ebt failure ….is there any more shit we can pile onto the outcome of this case ?

      • JustMe

        Fuggedaboudit…. 😉

      • Realtime Prep

        See Rich who needs False Flags, its breaking all over the damn place!!!

        And good ass movie btw! 😉

        RTP

      • Mclovin

        luckily the strippers still take I.O.U’s!!!

        • nightshiftsucks

          I’ll just feed the strippers hot dogs.

          • sixpack

            hope your shots are up to date…

        • Wilson

          @Mclovin,
          I really get a laugh out of your comments, THANKS for the warped and twisted humor. Hope all is well with you. BTW, hoe do the strippers swipe those cards??????? I don’t want to know.

          • Mclovin

            I appreciate it Wilson, while it is evident not all appreciate my humor though I thank you for the positive feedback. I believe we all need to think about what ‘soft skills’ we bring to the table in addition to the tangible skills (carpentry, medical, weapons etc). We all know that in addition to being a diverse team in our respective survival groups we are going to be able to live together in a stressfull environment without killing each other.

            • sixpack

              I never kill anybody who doesn’t try to kill me first.

      • NoRegretVet

        Oh Yea…..they are coming up with more and more BS everyday….Keep the people off balance….Keep them in total fear….Make life as miserable as possible for them….I wonder just how much more of this BS will we take before all the like minds just go off !!!

        Something has got to give here folks !!!

        But Remember:

        1) Breathe
        1a) Fear will make you stupid !!!

        2) Breathe

        2a) Panic will get you killed !!!

        3) Breathe

        • ready down under

          Keep your cool when all others about you are losing theirs and you’ll have the best chance.

          Like NoRegretVet says, breathe! Then think and breathe some more.

          Aussie

      • AC

        There is a grid-down power failure drill scheduled for next month (Nov. 13-14).

        GridEx 2013 Preparedness Drill

      • Geralt

        How about Miley Cyrus actually being popular?

      • RICH99

        I heard the FREEBIE CARD is back up and running !!!!

      • mclovin

        2 youtes!

      • Jenn

        Rich,

        My biological clock. (It’s tickin’ like THIS.)

        • RICH99

          Ya need a little comedy in times like this ……..ironically my TSA brother tells me I’m nuts and why worry about things I can’t change !!!!!!

          • sixpack

            …because whether you can change them or not remains to be seen.

    4. TXGranny

      Martial law lockdown starting with the national parks makes a lot more sense than crashing the EBT system a few states at a time…for sure, if any other states besides those handled by Xerox start to go down, the news will break fast! You can bet EBT users in TX are keeping a watch for any reports of it happening here!

      Bet Obungle is having a fit…the very people he wants to keep calm until just the right time…and 16 states’ worth of them are getting all riled up!!!

      But ya know, I just don’t believe in coincidences any more…

      • JustMe

        There are no coincidences…

        • possee

          There are no coincidences..

          Correct you are..

          Nothing is by accident

          Everything is by design

          possee

          • Patriot Man

            Possee – insert: Everything is by [[ jew ]] design

      • nightshiftsucks

        He’ll just say it was due to the Repubs shutting down the govt.

        • ready down under

          Another joke I got sent by my Alaskan penpal …. But, but, but – it’s just a joke right???

          Aussie

          I wanted to let you know that earlier today I received my Obamacare enrollment packet from the White House.

          It contained:

          1• An aspirin and a band-aid.

          2• An ‘Obama Hope & Change’ bumper sticker

          3• A ‘Bush’s Fault’ yard sign

          4• A ‘Blame Republicans first, then anybody and everybody else’ poster

          5• A ‘Tax the Rich’ banner

          6• An application for unemployment and a free cellphone

          7• An application for food stamps

          8• A prayer rug

          9• A letter assigning my debt to my grandchildren

          10• And lastly, a coupon for a machine that blows smoke up my ass.

          Everything was made in “China” and all directions were in Spanish. Keep an eye out. Yours should be arriving soon.

      • Mark

        TXGranny,
        I’m in Texas, too, and I noticed hand-written signs at the WalMart checkouts yesterday that said, “No WIC”. That’s it. Maybe it’s a commonplace. I don’t go to WalMart much.

        • Monkeydance

          You can never use wic in self checkout, because the cashier has to key in the voucher. I’m guessing people were holding up lines trying to use wic…even though its common since if you look at it that a cashier will be needed.

    5. Paul

      America’s politicians have master plan

      Left. Right. Left. Right. An amusing game to keep the masses distracted.

      All the while, the political class savors its above-you privileges.

      You must pay for their insurance, you must give them $100,000-plus retirement for a few years service and you must allow them to take lobbyist bribes.

      And by all means, you must keep fighting amongst yourselves. And you must never — ever — respect each other’s opinions enough to let each everyone live as they wish.

      • JRS

        OT but your site reminds me of that old George Strait song..

        Amarillo by mornin’
        Up from San Antone
        Everything that I got
        Is just what I got on
        I ain’t got a dime
        But what I got is mine
        I ain’t rich
        But Lord I’m free
        Amarillo by mornin’
        Amarillo’s where I’ll be…

      • Pissed Off Granny

        Speaking of politicians I read this quote:

        “It’s scary for a woman to be on a blind date. For all she knows the man she is meeting up with could be a rapist, a murderer, or God forbid, a POLITICIAN!”

        • Tactical

          POG: Someone like Anthony Weiner or all of the bastards?

          • Pissed Off Granny

            Tactical:

            All the bastards!

    6. Gopher

      Down in Illinois at 10;00 this morning and still down now.
      Verrrrry Interesting!!

    7. lastmanstanding

      Get a job, start a business…

      Have some pride and integrity.

      This is the land of equal opportunity…not equal outcome.

      I’m tired of getting robbed and fucked so that you can eat.

      In the real world you starve to death if you can’t survive on your own.

      We live by that rule.

      • Via

        Well stated

      • braveheart

        Lastmanstanding, I’m with you, but unfortunately we don’t have enough people like that out here anymore. the last 5 years of the Obama regime have seen an increase in the “entitlement mentality” like never before. I’m tired of my tax dollars supporting freeloaders too. When I was a kid growing up back in the 60s, if you didn’t work, you didn’t eat. That’s just the way things were and should be again.

        • InsanityIsContagious

          We did too, and I still work 60+ hours a week by choice.

          Got some young Chinese green-card-holder friends who work in the states — they work 7 days a week, 12-hour days AND they are on “salaries” == 15,000/yr (just over the 2000 hr/minimum wage threshold). They told us, “In China, you don’t work, you die. Nobody [meaning government] takes care of you.”

          • The Old Coach

            Why, under Communism I thought that China was a worker’s Paradise !! !

        • lastmanstanding

          bh…there are PLENTY of people like that here in the US.

          The rest are one their own. Either they figure it out in a commonsense, kind, productive manner or…

          Know who each and everyone is. Deal with them accordingly.

        • JayJay

          I read an article of a man visiting his childhood county in California and taking about the changes and this was just last year.
          Said every other street corner and every few miles on interstate someone had a home or trailer selling food they had cooked out of the home(set up dining areas in the living rooms)and out of the trailers.
          Mostly Mexicans. I guess California looks the other way when it’s not coming out of their pocket??

        • Alphonse

          Braveheart:
          Here is my take on you: Never saw a day of active duty in any service, much less any combat; Never were a police officer; Watched lots of television westerns; suffer from penis envy; and, use this site for your wannabe paranoid fantasies. I wish there was a method for verifying you and your fellow delusional comrades in an objective context. My resume would pass any objective examination which is why I read your drivel with wry amusement.

          • jp

            Alphonse:

            You have no resume other than being one of Barry’s cyber warriors!

            Thanks for dropping by….:)

      • JustMe

        Maybe you have’nt noticed the marxists have taken over…

      • nightshiftsucks

        what business or job ? The politicians destroyed the country and no one has the same opportunities that we had 20 years ago.

        • JRS

          Agreed.

          BTW, I also agree with your handle.

        • lastmanstanding

          I agree to a point. If you want to beat them, you must dig deep into yourself and send them back to hell.

          I see people doing it where I live.

          True/real Americans will NOT let them win.

          “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

        • robert paulson

          Move to n. Dakota or Texas and work the oil rigs or start a local buisness.

      • sdmule

        This isn’t the land of equal opportunity,not when you have a political class of people. There is opportunity, for sure, but it is nit equal. Some in this country are more equal than others.

      • Slick One

        Lastman Why should welfare scum work, the government gives them money for producing worthless copies of themselves. Free section 8 housing, EBT, WIC, SNAP,TANF,SSI…………. I hope for the day when the welfare programs can be terminally cleared of moochers.
        Welfare should not be given out to people that are just too lazy to work.

        • lastmanstanding

          I’m with you Slick…Things are going to change.

          In our favor. We will be part of “setting the earth straight”.

          It won’t likely be very attractive.

      • Piper Michael

        lastman…
        in case you hadn’t noticed, equal opportunity for all was outsourced through the front door,
        as equal misery for all was brought in the back door…

        I gave up after about 100 resumes and attempts at interviews, if I heard it once, I heard it a hundred times; over qualified…
        So, I went Galt… fug it.
        I work for me now, and it appears soon, I may have the choice between health insurance or food.

        That, will not be the IRS’s finest hour. If they are killing me dishonestly, I will be honest about it.

        • lastmanstanding

          You beat them.

          We have 2 biz’s and work tirelessly to beat them…there are only tough, willing participants on God green earth.

          Many of them are here.

          Galt works for me, you and whoever wants to live free and productive.

          The rest…well, I am glad I am not them.

          I will get exactly what i am supposed to get and I will fight that like a mofo if I think I have to.

          Love you brothers and sisters.

          lms, MP, BI, 6 pak, Braveheart,jog,kindle,DK, VRF, Kula, JRS, TXGranny, MacS, Shootit, possee, kingk, Mclovin, John Q and the rest of you tough bastards who I have missed…

          NOT!…”going down without one helluva fight”

          Molon labe baby!!!

          ps…man am I on a roll this morn…

          • Kindle

            lastman,
            I went Galt 3 years ago because I found out that I was “overqualified” and I was sick of paying for other people. Now I just take care of me and my fuzzy face kids.

            “They” want a fight…well this little ole woman will give them one…..also.

            • sixpack

              ditto.

        • BadAmerican

          @Piper:

          If you need some scratch, let me know. I can send some your way.

          ….be safe…..stay the course….BA.

          • Piper Michael

            @BadAmerican,
            Thanks brother, but we don’t do charity.
            I do take physical donations for the Cause.

            Lookin’ for a 4Mv Tesla coil, got one laying around?
            😉

        • Archivist

          Next week it will be 9 years since I became John Galt. I can work all I want. I am writing a book for a wealthy man, a chapter or two a week. I am copying old reel-to-reel tapes to CDs for someone else. Next week I’ll be scanning a high school yearbook for someone. I do genealogy, work on computers, sell herbs, and many other jobs. I never get bored, and there is always more work. I could work 80 hours a week if I wanted, but I try to keep it down to less than 20, leaving time for my garden and other preparations.

          I tell young people all the time that if they can’t find a job, then they should make their own job. They all see the wisdom there, and some of them are actually working for themselves now.

          • Archivist

            I also have websites advertising some of my services. In one little niche, I am now the world expert. OPSEC prevents me from saying what it is here, but any time someone searches for that one subject, my websites come up along with quotes on other sites.

            Everyone should try to become the acknowledged expert in at least one tiny field.

            • ScottyK

              I’m military, but still furloughed the first week of October. Used that time to clean out my shed, and get the workbench set up. Have a dream of repairing computers for people. The furlough actually got me closer to that.

              • sign_me_up

                cell phones too. Apparently an in-demand business. Maybe you can even sell a better insurance?!?!?

              • Shootit

                Better learn how to grow food and split wood. Putters and Cells will not be working.

                • Piper Michael

                  Mine will…
                  If, there’s anything to connect to…
                  😉

                • Shootit

                  PM, ditto here. I think little ham radio’s are the ticket. you will be able to speak with your kids on the couch that way. 😉

              • Night breaker

                ScottyK,
                Hear you there brother same here , use this time wisely because I feel in the very near future we are going to be really busy.

                RESIST NO MATTER WHAT

                III%

                Semper Fi 8541

      • Patriot Man

        LMS – What planet are YOU from? “GET A JOB?” WTF???? Did you not know there are NO jobs???? “Start a business” – with what AIR? No one has any GD MF money! Yeah there are TONS of govvie sponges, but the jews made most of them leeches.

        • lastmanstanding

          P M…hopefully you are being sarcastic.

          If not, I’m so weary of hearing people can’t this, can’t that…

          They got 2 choices…freedom or slavery.

          Weak animals get culled out in the forest. Same should go for weak people.

          Half of the people in the US don’t give a fuck about me but I am forced against my will to pay for their existance. I sure don’t give a flying fuck about them.

          As I said before…equal opportunity, not equal outcome.

          • Piper Michael

            Only partially sarcastic…
            There is less opportunity, when there is less money flowing through the system. Unless you happen to be in certain areas of the country, which are doing great, the rest of the country is sucking a big vacuum cleaner…
            That just makes it harder, and harder…

            There are two Americas. Equality depends, on how much money you have. Bankers won’t loan you anything without collateral… but, if you had to sell everything to make ends meet, then, what do you do?

            If you’re 60 years old, and half crippled, who, do you think will hire you nowadays? There are college graduates fighting over jobs. My recommendation is to get a trade, a real skill that works your hands and your mind. Like a mechanic, electrician, a good one is appliance repair… Knowing how to fix things now, anything, would be a good skill to have.

            Fortunately, I do. Or I would be in deep doo doo and probably working a part time job, if I could find it.
            But, I don’t believe in charity, especially the gubmint kinds.

    8. Ordinary Average Guy

      Perhaps some people may wake up and realize….maybe I should be accountable and provide for my family….oops ..sorry what was I thinking…where’s my obamafone….I need to get my free stuff..baaaah

    9. Paul

      Obama is provoking American people to rise up so he can implement martial law, soon.

      • The Old Coach

        We must make THEM fire the first shots. After that, well…….

        • Ghostrighter

          I think they already have!

          • The Old Coach

            Maybe. I’m not hoping they’ll fire on the vets that are ripping up the barricades at our war memorials, but if they do, it’s gonna be like Lexington and Concord.

    10. Rodster

      I have no doubt this was done on purpose. This Gov’t is made up by a bunch of ruthless bastards. They don’t give a shit about the American people. It’s all about CONTROL and POWER to them.

      Wait till the S. really H.T.F. They will punish you if you disobey them. And you wonder why I want to see this system collapse so we can put these bastards on the unemployment line.

      • lastmanstanding

        They need put on a line of some sort…like a rope.

      • Shootit

        The U.S. government was “unwilling to prosecute high officials who lied to Congress and the country on camera, but they’ll stop at nothing to persecute someone who told them the truth.” ~ Snowden

        Our current situation(age)is described in scriptures. “Thing will be in the day of Noe.” What was he talking about? The two most prevalent sins of that age would be that of “lying and stealing”. The CORP is “lying” and the Banksters are “stealing”. I hope that your Soul is as well prepared as your pantry.

        • Patriot Man

          @shootit, “snowden” is a cia psyop, to create the impression that they have the ability to monitor EVERYTHING. Anytime the jew media talks incessantly about anything – it is a F-ING LIE. THAT is how jews do it.

          • The Old Coach

            Substitute Muslim for Jew and you might have a bit of truth to that statement. Nowhere in the Bible, old or new testament, does it tell jews or Christians to lie, but in the Koran, on the other hand…..

            What is it with blaming jews anyway? Are these sociopaths being programmed by radio waves from Mecca, or what?

            • Tactical

              The Old Coach ……You need to study the history in more details. You are way outdated.

            • Shootit

              OC,

              I have no idea why at every turn people want to blame it on the Jews. Yes, there are Jews involved in bad behavior, but all other races are involved too. Haven’t met the perfect skin color yet.

              PM,

              Only God knows everything I do. The COPR aka. NSA has no clue at to what I do 99% of the time. Even if they had someone from the fact orgy following me around 24/7 they would not have vague clue. My neighbors think I am retired. PS. quit blaming the Jews/race and start looking at the quality of character. Everyone has one.

            • Them Guys

              But jews go by Their Babylonian Talmud books and also their Kabala black majik darkness satanic evils. And their Talmud Does teach jews to Lie, cheat, Steal, and even Murder the gentiles, especially murder the Best of gentiles.

              You simply refuse to aknowledge or accept the facts that several of us here has provided. We have relentlesly provided you with tons of talmudic actual named and numbered verses, scriptures, quoted statements BY and About Jews, Rabbis etc.

              So as the intelligent man you are as your other post issues shows, you are simply in Denial and all out rejecting all types of solid proofs even proof by and from rabbis themselves as to what causes jews to thnk, act and behave as they do and of which Always creates much Anomosity, divisions, Enmity’s, and yes at times even for some folks, Hate.

              But many folks confuse Hate of or for the evils and wrongs jews perpetrate against all gentiles and especially christian white gentiles, for actual hate of jews personally. That is a wrong way to see things of most who speak out on jewish issues.

              There is a vast difference between hate the sin but NOT hate the sinner personally.

              Why You keep refuseing to actually research the Many examples we provide to you that backs up and proves all we say, is something only You can answer Old Coach.

              Bottom line is two choices. #1 keep trusting and believeing All we ever been taught by MSM-Corrupted schools and text books used- Pastors who teach Falsehoods-Hollywood movies-Govnt and Think Tanks in cahoots with fed govnt, regarding all issues Jewish and state of Israel that everybody has been told and taught is truths.

              OR:#2-Toss out and fully Empty your head of 100% that you ever heard or were falsely taught to believe regarding jews and jewish issues. Then REFILL head, with Factual Truths so widly Abundant today due to the internet capabilities, that has allowed the avg common man or woman to be able to Present You with the factual Truths that for the last 100 yrs and primarily the past 60 yrs especially, has seen every group and agency I prior mentioned here, hard at work, working Overtime non stop to obfuscate, hide, distort, spin, twist, every fact in every facet of every actual Truth about jews and jew issues that they possibly can.

              In order to get otherwise intelligent folks like You, onboard as their goyim partners in fully accepting that wherever and whenever You hear or see the words “Antisemite” “jew hater” “Racist” “Bigot” etc ET AL, that you without further thought will rapidly join with jews and also condemn folks like Me or JQP and all others who Do speak Truth, based on Facts and decades of Honest research that so many other folks like You have been to pre occupide to research.

              Just consider for a moment…Who is More likly leading You in the Right Proper avenue or path?

              The Paid/Bribed Polititions? The Paid/Bribed MSM Tv news talkerheads? The Paid/Bribed Hollywood actor crowds? The Paid/Bribed Think tanks like AIPAC-SPLC-ADL ad infinitim?

              OR! the regular average guys very similar to You in most ways, who Never get Paid, will Never accept a bribe!, have never asked You to Vote for us, and us who have absolutly no other true desires besides to KNOW truth, and THEN Tell Others that same Truth so they too shall be eyes opened, wide awake, true american patriotic warriors who Know the true enemys, and true reasons for all these troubles we have since nobody can ever properly fight any enemys or their ideals or goals Unless such patriots KNOWS who and What they are and its really about and why?

              That folks here are willing to exert the effort to research and share all such truth we have found to awaken others like You, should show that it must be important and not just some sleezy childish attempt to smear jews or blacks or anybody for that matter.

              You mention biblical scriptures. Well do You really think that Jesus and the Apostle writers, told You to SEEK and KNOW the TRUTH, if there were zero actual truths out there to learn and know?

              Do You Really believe that for over 2000-3000 years now, that the people known of as jews have been constantly persecuted, non stop, over and over in 110-nations, many nations a total of 4-5 seperate times/eras, and that All such persecution etc has always occured because Jews NEVER do ANY wrongs or evils that warrent being Booted from every country so far , except for america(yet)?

              How does that happen? All a sudden on some avg sunny wed in june, 200-300 Million citizens by some strange coincidence rise from sleep on That particular Day, and lo and behold! They every person, all think the same thought that day, and by 9am wed, june any year, all that nations folks together demand jews Leave or else?

              Not very likly eh. Like the neighboorhood terror kid who Always crys wolf, and always whines “Everybodys out to Get me and I never did NO wrongs!”…We All learn by age 5-6 yrs old, that don’t fly. Its alwats That whiny kid who ends up Well deserving punisment for he is the terrorist of the local neighborhood responsible for local mail box dammages, missing cats, dead cats, stolen bikes, and harrasing little old ladies when there are usually No witness’s avail!

              Sol Alinsky, Karl Marx, Trotsky, and many more too many to list here are all jewish. Everything wrong in america and the world today stems from what They taught.

              And what They penned or taught Came originally From their Babylonian Talmud and Zohar and Kabala black majik books.

              You can keep denying truth Old Coach, keep bashing me and others by name calling of antisemitie or jew haters. But I know that You know We are correct, as I know from Your posts that You are far too smart to not know we are correct. You simply reject truth on jew issues as its the EASY way out. Just admit it. Its OK as Most folks share Your mindset on this issue.

              And Thats the main reason folks like Me and John Q Public are so needed today, because somebody has to learn and teach Truth. Its just too bad so few are yet willing to accept it and Learn it so they can JOIN Us in spreading truth before its too late. I do hope you get it. An awakening to real truth.

              • Pissed Off Granny

                ThemGuys:

                Great post.

          • Piper Michael

            PatriotMan,
            Listen to the lesson of the Ten horns.
            They are those who control the world.
            They are the race who came from Babylon, went north into the Caucus mountains, and spread across the Earth to be known as The Caucasian Race…
            The Ten Horns are the Shofars, of the Leaders of the Tribes, the richest of the whites. Those who WANT you to think The Jews are the source of troubles, and those who created all the propaganda, including the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
            The Hatred of the Tribes of Israel against Judah is old, Very very old.

            • Them Guys

              Very Old well describes what most folks today call “NEW AGER” and Gnostics Mambo Jambo, however there is nothing “new” about new agers and gnostic heritical ideals as both have existed at least 4000-5000 yrs now.

              And as Pipers rants all based entirely upon His personal warped interpretations, by a mixture of ONLY biblical verses, mostly out of context verses, mixed with total false meanings he has Invented so to reject what the bible itself describes as the Proper meanings of,while piper fully rejects the Other major portions of same bible that acording to him Rome(vatican catholics) has messed up so badly its all nonsense. Except of course those specific “Partial verses” like ten horns or shofers etc that piper can use to twist or spin into meanings that are so off base, so far fetched, only a new ager can possibly give any creedence to it.

              Every single such partial verse or individual word piper keeps useing, are ALL explained and described either by the Bible itself, or actual learned trained experts whos lives were devoted to providing us folks with the proper interpretations so we can fully comprehend the bible.

              Pipers method is akin to antigun liberals who take “part” from the 2nd amendt, “well regulated militia” to spew lies that ONLY the govnt or national guard has ANY firearm rights. Libs always OMMIT the last portion where it states “Right of the People shall NOT be infringed”!

              Piper uses same tactics only with the bible verses. he takes “Ten Horns” but fully OMMITS all else written of regarding that ten horns..Then convienently ADD’s Pipers OWN concoctions and arrives at a totally New meaning never yet heard of anywheres, outside of new ager councils or groups.

              That is a very common trait new agers use so folks will “Think” Gee that guys a christian too!

              But all one who Is a christian need ask self is this question. “Can anyone who so badly Butchers the Bible, then add’s so much of their personal false interpretations to arrive at a wholy new meaning, even reverseing what Christ or the Apostles wrote, can such a person really be a true christian?”

              If christianity is based upon the new testement gospels etc, which YES it Is, then how can one re invent so much of the bible and be a christian? They cannot is the right answer. Thats why they are called New agers and gnostic heritics. They think They are wiser than the words written already by men Inspired By Gods Holy Spirit when writting the bible.

              You folks can dcide Which to believe as real bible truth. Myself I rejected new ager mambo jambo 2 seconds after I first learned of it. Some it seems need more time than that. Some seem lost forever.

              Just wanted to mention these things incase new or “baby” christian believers stumble upon Pipers interpretations and somehow get deluded to actually give it any creedence or believe it as truth or facts. Check Your bibles for the Real truth then compare to Pipers versions.

              • Piper Michael

                And you’re still an idiot.
                My math trumps your MYSTERY of the Harlot.
                Your MYSTERY is done, conquered by the Revelation of Knowledge that comes so that “the Mystery of God is finished.”

                I can Prove God exists, can you?
                Not with your 4th century superstitions.

                But thank you for the ridicule… it is the way of truth to be ridiculed, then violently opposed, before it is accepted as self evident.

            • Pissed Off Granny

              Piper:

              Only someone who understands “outerspace” language could really understand your ‘religious rants’. Surely I am not the only one reading your gibberish that is scratching their heads wondering what the HELL you are writing.

              This post, as usual, has a half truth in it. You say the “Shofars, the leaders of the tribes, are “rich white men”. The truth about this statement is that they are “rich”. The lie is they are “white”.

              You have apparently confused the Khazars (Ashkenazi Jews, mongols from the Asiatic) with the real white caucasian man. It is no secret to anyone but a blind person who cannot read, who holds the wealth in this world. It is the international Jew banker; and if you deny this, then you are one of the blind.

              When you are not posting religious gibberish you seem to care about America; you just don’t seem to want to recognize who Americas’ and the worlds REAL enemies are.

              I will take Henry Fords explaination of who these people are over yours any day.

              • Piper Michael

                You both display your hatred for Jews quite clearly.
                My ‘rants’ as you call them, obviously are not for idiots.
                You have no ‘eyes that see’, so therefore, your hatred blinds you to the truth.

                My new experiments in General Relativity, prove, that the ‘rants’ as you call them, will make you all feel foolish one day.

                Where does God lie? In the MYSTERY of the Harlot, or the Godless scientists? No, if the God of the Universe exists, He shows Himself in the very fingerprints of Creation.

                Enjoy your mystery, it doesn’t matter anymore. Your churches are done, having lost their moral authority on the altar of their own hypocrisy. That’s why they have gone through the Great Falling away of the Faith over the last few decades or more. The time of Jacobs Trouble is come, the time of darkness is here, can you see madness rise upon the winds? Can you feel it in your soul, the anxiety rises, like a splinter in your mind?

              • Them Guys

                PO’d Granny: Great Points. I see You too are wized up to Henery Fords great jew expose “The International Jew”

                Every true patriot and especially christians should Read Henery Fords expose which is now avail Online totally Free and as orig written back around 1923 era.

                Henery also had his Own newspaper called “The Dearborn Independant” in which he himslef, and other researcher folks henery paid, continued to Out the truths of Khazar Kommies and Bolshevik russian jews and their “protocals of the Elders of Zion” world wrecking zio kommie plans. Henery was a True Patriot.

                A good or fast reader person can read his entire booklet “The International Jew” in One day, time well spent I must add. Wake up whiteys and Wize up too!

      • Sick of it all

        Due to budget cuts , no cigarettes or blindfolds will be provided

        • Anton Hackl

          Sick of….

          LOL…that’s funny!!!

          Perhaps you should contact the Monty Python troupe & pitch your truth as a theater “sketch”…call it 21st century Amerikan gallows humor!!!
          Monty’s folks would have a field day, per your dark humor.

          Kudos to you, sir! I really needed a good laugh!

          Thanks much!!! (truly!!!)

          • The Old Coach

            I think that’s a variation of the one that says, “Due to the bad economy, warning shots can no longer be provided.”

    11. Twisted

      Tried to wake up two guys this week. One I really smart and understands, but thinks every thing will turn out. Other is just a zombie. I put my trust in The Lord and can not wait till he comes back. In the mean time, prep away.
      Twisted.

      • Patriot Man

        @twisted [for real] – “the lord?” OMG. FYI: the “lord jesus” was invented by jews to control ppl like you.

        • Piper Michael

          Better shut up about that, unless you want to fight. Cause them is fightin’ words.

          Jesus came, was RE-invented by the Catholics. The Jews had nothing to do with it.
          Roman and other history is clear, He existed, whether you want to follow a simple golden rule or not, is up to you.
          But tempting fate is not real smart either.

          • Them Guys

            BS Piper! jews had nothing to do with it, Jesus? well only If you ignore the Fact that it waa Jews, pharisee rabbi priests AND every jew follower who rejected Jesus, that Demanded Christ be Murdered and jews KNEW Jesus was an Innocent Man too! Pilot told the jews that fact, yet Jews so Hated Jesus they threatened Pilot if he don’t order jesus crucified to Death then all the jews will RIOT and LOOT and Kill Roman citizens and soldiers etc!

            Gee sounds alot like usa blacks riot threats today eh? Maybe jews Is who Taught black how effective rioting looting killing threats can be if done right huh?

            Piper if jews had zero to do with jesus etc? Then WHY did they scream Back in Pilots Face when pilot tried to deny them a dead Christ, and all the jews assembled yelled out “we do not Care if hes an innocent man! KILL Him anyways and Let His Innocent BLOOD be UPON OUR and Our Childrens HEADS from here on!”????

            Man piper it seems you keep aprox 10% of bible verses. And toss Out the other 90% as fake or wrong. As If Pipers the wise decider!…..Hobammy should have picked decider piper as his VP with so much decider ability in common eh!

            I do credit You Piper with one thing. I never before have read anybodys false bible interpretations that were so off base or so badly Butchered. So if a prize for bible butchering exists? I Nominate Piper to win hands down.

    12. gone under

      Nice clothes, jewlery,and a caddy…how am I gonna feed my keeids, the goberment try to starve us? In CA the ebt, obammaphone, housing section8, and cash aid adds up to more than my retirement income and I dont draw SS. I fucking give up watching this shit. What the fuck are they going to do when it stops? And dont give me that bullshit “they will come for yours”. They wont help themselves now. My 12 does my greeting.

      • braveheart

        Gone under, I’m the same way. If they come to my place trying to turn it into a “store”, they’ll be greeted by my beloved “Bertha”, loaded with 00 buck.

        • Kindle

          Hey Braveheart,
          I need a cool name like Bertha for my 20 guage. Some of my other tools have names by default…like Judge, Mini and Stormy…

          Any suggestions? Anyone?

          • anna

            Kindle, My 20 gauge is named “Yurass”. As in “Get off of my property or I am going to get Yurass”. Or, “Don’t make me shoot Yurass”.

            Yes,sometimes, little ol’ ladies in Arkansas are warped.

            • Anton Hackl

              Kindle…

              With apologies to the first “Predator” movie…how about naming it “PAINLESS”????????????

              ….because approx 500 milliseconds after receiving a load of “00 buck” center-mass…they wont feel a damn thing!!!!!

          • C Howard Fields

            How about Elmer Fudd ….

            • TheGuy

              The Cheney Stick?

          • Patriot Man

            @Kindle – “Freedom.”

          • Ugly

            Kindle.

            How about ‘True Grit’?

            • Kindle

              What was Katherine Hepburns character real name? All I remember is John Wayne calling her “sister”.

              • Ugly

                I think you are referring to ‘Rooster Cogburn’ and not True Grit.

                Her name was Eula Goodnight.

                I think it was True Grit where John Wayne said the infamous.

                ‘No I wont hit you. The Hell I wont!’

                RIP Duke….

                • Paranoid

                  That was McKlintock (Bad speller)

                • Kindle

                  yep, you’re right. I got them mixed up. Eula had some grit of her own.

          • U dog.

            How about pacifier? Good name for a useless shotgun.

          • BackSpace

            @Kindle… My 20g is named “Hagatha”

            BS

          • Y'all Beware!

            @ Kindle

            How’s “Butt Buster” for your 20 guage

            Y’all Beware!

      • Slick One

        Gone this is why we need to purge the welfare system, the parasites are killing the host.

        • Babycatcher55

          I’ve kinda felt like the country has worms….anyone know of a good wormer?

          • Slick One

            Heated lead has be successfully used to treat the variety of parasites now infesting our once great nation.
            And I should like to add with a 100% success rate!

        • PA farmer

          What you do is if they’er on walfare longer than two years you band the malesballs like you would a bull calf, price of a band 2 cents, time too band 2 Seconds. now they cant breed any more and the whites dont want to breed them any how Problem solved. This is just common sense law as ob would say..I know dat b rasis..

          • old guy

            They would just cut the band off. I would use clamps or a sharp knife.

            • Babycatcher55

              Handcuffs for two weeks. Cubes fall off due to lack of circulation. 🙂

          • Slick One

            There is an implantable contraceptive for females called norplant. The cintraceptive effect is good for 4 or 5 years, this should be mandatory for any welfare queen.

            • karen

              Norplant is quite outdated. Implanon is what we use now. One implantable little hormone-embedded “stick” instead of many. Lasts for three years.

      • Prepared Pastor

        Messaged my friend from high school who is a welfare mother in Ohio to warn her that her EBT card might not worked and told her about all the complaints I was reading on Twitter. This was her response:

        “lol Hand to mouth people. You can’t relie on a sure thing. Cash is the hardest thing for me to get. But food no problem, I am still giving away tomatoes. They came in small in size this year but dozen at a time. Lori caned the last of the cucumbers over a month ago. Wonder how she feels about tomatoes .lol”

    13. Norse Prepper

      Even though they are saying this has nothing to do with the government shut down they know that the uneducated will still blame it on that.

      Get your preps ready.

      God Bless,
      NP

      • braveheart

        Greetings, Norse Prepper. How’ve you been?

      • The VOICE from the Outer World

        Game, Set amd Match NP!

        How you doing Brother?; well I HOPE. Our ‘prepping’ here is now DONE…Winter is just around the corner and we will be ‘snug in our beds’, here, as the phrase goes. Keep on Keepin’ on Friend!

        JOG

    14. Alpha 665

      If you search the net, you’ll find LOT’S of reports from around the country where people are having a FIT in Walmarts and especially the grocery stores. Now, if this EBT outage goes on for another, oh let’s say 24-48hrs, anyone here think you’ll see the first riots at said stores?? Yea, this can be the start of something B I G if not taken care of quickly. Gezzz, who would have ever thought………;)

      • braveheart

        I was out getting some more groceries earlier this evening and surprisingly everything was calm while I was there. Apparently, the problem hasn’t reached TN…yet.

        • U dog.

          Yeah. That’s how computers work. Just give it a few days. It will reach TN.

      • 1sgMike

        Alpha, I agree that it would get really ugly if this was to go on for another day or two, but it’s also a sad state of affairs that the lame-street-media would not report on it and let the real american people know what is happening, and more importantly, who is doing it.

    15. beverly lane

      Down in arkansas too

    16. renea

      This is happening in Ca.People looked crazy when they saw the signs at Winco. What if they don’t get their benefits ever again? My husband finally gets it. @justme I totally agree. Too many things happening all at once.

    17. John_Allen

      I share the self-reliant pay your own way values those who post here hold.

      Nonetheless, the EBT dependent aren’t the one’s whose carcasses I want to see nailed to the barn door.

      They aren’t the one-tenth of one percent who have acted over the last 100 years to make the uS a police state. They aren’t the banksters. They are the war victims, the people who do the fighting not the people who instigate the wars.

      Having given that disclaimer, I quote Gerald Celente: “When people have nothing left to lose, they lose it.”

      Depending on how long the outage lasts there are a lot of parents out there asking themselves what they’re prepared to do to feed their children and themselves.

      I wonder how many innocents are going to die before this is over.

      • Kulafarmer

        Thats the obvious problem with TPTB,
        They put no value on anyone but themselves and their narrow agenda

        • PA farmer

          Howdy kula, this is how i see it, these walfers are working and they’er working for TPTB(NWO) And their job is to breed as many dumb down voters as they can. This one has six voters them six has six voters an so on, and their pay for this is a EBT card that we pay for it.(smart) Then when time comes to vote they get a letter to report to (address)with Instructions to follow at (address) then acorn worker tell them how to vote.and this cycle Continues till were fucked.once the TPTB get their Agenda finished, then they will depopulate the sheep

      • braveheart

        John Allen, I agree. TPTB are the ones who need to be held accountable and suffer consequences for what they’ve done to this nation. braveheart

      • Tactical

        John_Allen….. Brilliantly stated. I would like to take a liberty to add to your comment in a Non Politically Correct fashion. EBT dependency as we are witnessing it today is not a natural phenomena rather it is a satanic design. I really think most folks on EBT support, rather would like to have a job and be a productive member of the society while there are definitely those who truly are the parasites and prefer to live off someone else’s hard work. Such parasites should die or get their acts together. No other choice. However the MASTER PARASITES who must be eliminated from the face of the earth are designers of such dependency system since it is designed purposely and its purpose is a TOTAL CONTROL. Who are these master parasites? The ZIONIST JEWS in the wall street and the central banks world wide along with the Saudis and other Arabs States who are their DNA cousins. Now red thumbs can fly since they can’t handle the truth.

        • Anton Hackl

          Tactical….

          Sir,
          … henceforth, you have hereby been promoted to the rank/grade/level of “STRATEGIC”….(thinker)!

          ….be forewarned however, the atmosphere here is very rarefied…commitment/honor & intelligence is/are mandatory!

          Salute!!!!!

          • Tactical

            Salute Brother.

    18. Alpha 665

      According to a link on Drudge from the AP, it’s already over. System is back up. Another crisis averted. BUT, the ‘test’ was a success i’m sure…..

    19. YH

      Six kids to feed and no plan whatsoever on how to feed them other than welfare? Disgusting. It says a lot about the pathetic state of the nation.

      I say just write the bastards a blank check and print cash like there’s no tomorrow so we can hit rock bottom sooner than later. This is exhausting.

      • braveheart

        That video was truly disgusting, YH. that woman will never learn how to take responsibility for her own kids. people on welfare have no clue about what it really means to be a parent. they think us working people should care for them from cradle to grave with our tax money. I’m sick of my tax money going to support freeloaders. this stinking entitlement mentality is only one of many things bringing us down as a nation. braveheart

        • YH

          @braveheart,

          It’s exasperating. No work ethic. No sense of responsibility. No sense of morality (Miley Cyrus?). No planning. Only a bankrupt sense of immediate gratification and entitlement being reinforced daily by politicians seeking re-election. That is the contemporary American mindset, and it is doomed to failure.

          If this isn’t a repeat of Rome before it fell, I don’t know what is.

          • braveheart

            YH, as a nation, we are falling almost exactly like Rome did and it’s not going to be nice.

        • Slick One

          Braveheart lead has been shown to have a 100% cure rate
          when administered too welfare moochers.

          • braveheart

            Slick One, I am very well stocked on that ‘precious metal’. It WILL come to that when the house of cards finally falls.

            • Patriot Man

              BH – Roger.

        • Gone2Hilo

          Looked to me like the only thing she was taking care of was her appearance! Hair that straight costs money…nails, nice clothes, sunglasses fashionably poised…standing there screaching that we are not feeding HER kids…..she probably called a friend on a smart phone and told them too, then got in a nice car and drove off in a huff. I don’t mind anyone having nice things, but they should work for them! Plant some of your own freaking food to feed all your kids..I just came in to rest for a minute from digging my winter supply of sweet potatoes that I planted, weeded, and now dug, from slips I cut from LAST YEARS CROP! My hands are so rough from working in my garden that I couldn’t put on a pair of pantyhose without ripping them if I tried! This chick doesn’t know what work is. Makes me sick. I wish the EBT cards had quit working in TN so I could have watched the fun. These people also kill me not ever having anything at home to feed their kids. They always screach that their kids are starving. Can no one make a pan of cornbread and cook some dried beans?..oh wait…they don’t come in a box..I forgot. Making myself hungry for some cornbread & milk…think that’s what I will make for supper.

          • JayJay

            I’ve got some left from lunch–buttermilk and cornbread..Ummm..Ummm..Ummm.

      • me

        6 kids by how many different men and where are they??

        • YH

          @me,

          I’m sure if there were a way to father 6 kids by 8 fathers the government would have that covered as well.

          • ready down under

            YH, Brave, Me – we have percentage wise, probably just as much as the US. 6 or more kids by heaps of different dirtbags who wont work because it would stop their benefits. The mothers drift from one man to another and keep popping out the next welfare boost. The sooner this system collapses the better – from the ashes something worthwhile may be built.

            Aussie

            • YH

              Aussie,

              I don’t look forward to the day when the system collapses in on itself. People will be reduced to a very primitive level of existence. It will be extraordinarily difficult for everyone, but more so for some than others. However, the sooner we hit rock bottom, the better it will be for everyone. Hopefully, at that time, some sanity will re-assert itself at least for a short time.

      • Tom

        Where bees her baby daddies?

        • Patriot Man

          TY – de beees maken mo chirruns. wut cho axin fo?

          • TheGuy

            Running for the hills like they should be. Of course, to begin with, they shouldn’t have had sex with her, so in that sense they never learn.

            11 forms of birth control PLUS morning after pill PLUS abortion. All options for her which she chose not to avail herself of. Men’s options? Failure prone rubber or abstinence.

            Sympathy for her? Zero.

            Run you baby daddies, run. Run like the wind.

            • ready down under

              She must have had sextuplets? I mean, surely no one would have screwed her MORE than once!!

              Aussie

    20. Kulafarmer

      Who is John Gault?

      • Shootit

        John Galt is a character in Ayn Rand’s novel Atlas Shrugged (1957).

        • Kulafarmer

          no shit!

          • JustMe

            He’s kinda like Neo. Everyone hopes he exists, and will show up and do somethig to save thier collective @$$es… But alas, John Galt only exists in our dreams…

      • Anton Hackl

        John Gault is the guy that speaks to me everyday…& Henry Bowman is his/my best buddy!

        …the knowledgeable here will understand the idea of……………………voices in the head***!!!

        ——————————————————–

        ***…yeah it all started w/ reading the “FEDERALIST PAPERS” by John Jay/Alexander Hamilton & James Madison…I haven’t been the same since…THANK GOD!

    21. john

      good, f em all !!!

    22. john

      the obama nation cant go a day with out food.

      • NC joe

        And neither can you.

        • braveheart

          NC joe, how long can YOU go without food?

          • Tactical

            Long time BH. since NC Joe eats his own shit.

    23. Hammerun

      The 10:00pm news in LA reported the EBT system was down, but now Xerox stated the glitch (sound familiar?) was fixed and would be available for use Sunday.

    24. durango kidd

      Six kids to feed. Maybe she should have thought about how she was going to feed her kids after the first one was born. And the second. and the third. And the fourth. And the fifth. And the sixth.

      You can’t fix stupid. If you feed it, it will multiply. 🙂

      • Slick One

        This is why irreversible surgical sterilizations should be carried out after the first bastard welfare ghetto child is shat into the world.

      • ready down under

        Cant feed ’em, dont breed ’em !!!

        Aussie

        • Patriot Man

          Tell me.

      • NC joe

        So, are you willing to stand by and watch those kids starve because mom was irresponsible? How very Christina of you.

        • Slick One

          NC joe says:
          Comment ID: 2730723
          October 13, 2013 at 5:11 am So, are you willing to stand by and watch those kids starve because mom was irresponsible? How very Christina of you.

          Da baby daddy and momma are responsible for their offspring.

          • JayJay

            I’m gonna share this one more time, folks.
            Read it well, moochers.
            I Timothy 5:8….Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

            Can I get an Amen, brothers and sisters??

            • Ugly

              Amen.

            • lastmanstanding

              Amen.

            • Piper Michael

              Might as well add a third…
              Amen.

        • InsanityIsContagious

          I thought being Muslim is the “in-thing” now…they all need 4 wives — I say we donate some “tried-and-true” fertility queens and let them “feed the masses.” Christians are about tapped out.

        • Leslie Anne

          The kids are NOT going to starve…they’re getting “free” breakfast and lunch at school.

          • lastmanstanding

            …and I am sooo tired of paying for that.

            If kids where taught what really happpened over the last 240 years, I would supply the food and cook their meals.

            Would need a lot of superfood and i bet Kula would supply the kale.