Protect Yourself With Hard Assets: “You Can’t Trust Any Of These Currencies… Or The People Who Run Them”

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    While the majority of Americans see absolutely nothing wrong with the trajectory of our economy or the U.S. dollar, there’s one libertarian economist who says that the people in charge just can’t be trusted. Jayant Bhandari is a senior analyst at Anarcho Capital and he is well versed in the political and economic machinations taking place around the world.

    In his latest interview with Future Money Trends, Bhandari shares a wealth of information from his dealings in countries that include the United States, Canada, China, and India. As he explains, you need to be positioning yourself in hard assets as soon as you have the opportunity to do so.

    His reasoning is quite simple – we absolutely cannot trust the people in charge of our currency and economic systems:

    You cannot really trust any of these currencies. These are fiat currencies. They are made of paper. And you cannot really trust what the people who run these currency systems will do tomorrow morning.

    For those concerned with what the regulators and money changers might do, consider taking the advice he shares in the interview below and start looking at hard asset investing as the only option to prevent paper currencies from wiping out your personal wealth.

    So how can you trust any of these currencies? The reason I think the dollar has performed everything else is because of the fact that everything else is falling apart faster than America is falling apart. And that is why I think people are moving to American dollars.

    But eventually they will realize that the American dollar is way over priced today and they have to take their money elsewhere to protect it and get some yield.

    I think all of these currencies are extremely risky. I don’t believe in keeping any of my money in these fiat currencies.

    As you may have guessed, Bhandari looks to assets that will have maintain or grow their value as un-backed paper currencies continue to depreciate on a global scale.

    I tell my family and people to keep as much of their money in gold. As much as possible. It’s what I think will protect them the most going forward.

    But physical gold is just part of the strategy. As you’ll hear in the interview Bhandari has a healthy asset diversification in countries that still protect property rights, including well managed mining companies.

    While those in charge of our currency systems play with exchange rates and inject trillions of dollars to keep the system afloat, those who understand the end-game are moving into assets that will still be worth something when global paper currency schemes crumble.

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      1. Protect myself with hard assets?Do firearms/bows/crossbows ect. count as hard assets,they may protect me.I could make a few crude comments about”hard assets”,but then you all know I have the social graces of a barnyard animal!

        • The Big Three.

          Beer, Burps and Farts. There I said it. Hahahaha!

        • Your not alone

          • i am replying to kula’s comments here so this gets nearer the top, as i feel it’s important…i posted near bottom of page earlier.
            or perhaps you should invest some of your money HERE!!! please excuse the redundancies, as i been working on this list for over 6 years.

            FIRST AID MANUAL water….sugar….flour….powdered milk……….t/p………………top ramen….pancake mix….candy, rock…..wasp spray coffee filts…..vitamins…..DOG FOOD…VEG OIL………duct……….tape…….antibiotics……..rice…..beans…………macaroni…………bleach…………benadryl…..wipies….garbage bags…….plastic cups,forks,spoon,knives .22 rounds….12 guage
            IV for rehydration
            photo albums, identification (birth certificates, social security cards, financial documents, wills/deeds, and medical insurance information), proof of address, as well as items for a 72 hour bag.
            clothes for all the family
            fill freezer
            brillo pad makes a good fire starter
            extreme cooler

            A Backup Plan

            A K-Bar Fighting Knife

            Salt
            Extra Batteries
            Medicine
            Propane

            Pet Food

            Heirloom Seeds
            An LED Headlamp

            Candles

            Clorox

            Calcium Hypochlorite
            Maps Of Your Area
            Rifle For Hunting

            Extra Socks
            Gold And Silver Coins For Bartering

            citizens band radio

            jeep
            toolbag

            eyeglasses

            computer

            battery chargers and phone chargers

            kool aid

            bleach

            bike tubes…and a BIKE, of course

            gold/silver

            coins

            2×8′s for crossing obstacles

            wasp spray

            hunting knife

            food

            vaseline

            water

            hatchet

            dutch oven

            coffee/water filters

            Gun Cleaning Kit & Supplies
            Wire and Wire Cutters
            Fire Extinguisher
            hacksaw………GOOD pair of wire cutters….butt connector pliers and wire connectors ….11-1 screwdrivers-not some cheap-o
            6 foot Pry bars-lift heavy items, pop open doors, break locks, move hot objects. harbor freight
            sandpaper/crocus cloth…………….. file for sharpening tools……….. hammer
            MAGNIFYING GLASS FIRESTARTEr
            bailing wire
            box of bolts/nuts/hose clamps
            stanley pocket saw
            3/32” E-6010 welding rods. These can be used with three 12 volt car batteries and some jumper cables to make an emergency field repair.
            peanut butter and crackers makes a great shtf meal
            vise grips

            fix a flat/compressor
            Tarp (2) and 500 para-cord (shelter) You want two tarps, one for shelter above the head and one for the ground under your head.
            0-20 degree sleeping bag. Sleeping bags will usually fit securely on the outside of your pack.
            Ponchos to protect from rain
            A folding saw and shovel.
            A handheld chainsaw (they are about the size of a mans wallet)
            Lightweight hatchet
            Army survival manual
            2 pairs of socks. One pair of our socks is a thermal type that will keep your feet warm in up to zero degree weather. It all depends on where you live and where you will be traveling. Cotton socks tend to hold moisture so you might not want cotton.
            A good pair of warm gloves/work gloves. Mine are a combination of both.
            A pair of good boots or hiking shoes
            A pair of long pants. I prefer not to have jeans. They are heaver and if they get wet, they stay wet for a long time.
            One pair thermal underwear/pants and shirt.
            dogs and dog food
            cash!
            deck of cards
            food…pepperoni granola bars…..
            first aid book
            paper plates
            ziplock bags
            aluminum foil
            butane stove or some other way to cook
            eye drops
            chap stick
            lotion
            rope
            plastic wrap
            sanitizer
            toothpaste/toothbrush
            powdered milk will be HUUUUGGGGEEEEEE ..buy a LOT of it!

            here’s my most complete list of stuff you might need if the excrement ever hits the rotating mass of twisted metal. i have other lists, but this is most of the good stuff you’ll need.
            1. The Pack – I have a LC-1 “Alice” pack but any quality pack with enough capacity will do. Stick with camouflage, dark green or other natural colors that blend with the terrain.

            2. Water – A canteen with cup and cover for your belt, water bottle and a good filter.

            3. Fire – Waterproof matches, a magnesium fire starter and tinder.

            4. Food – Pack enough to last 5-7 days. Rice, oat meal, beef jerky, energy bars etc. Another option is MRE’s and the freeze-dried foods. Choose foods that are light weight and a suitable shelf life.

            5. Stove – A small stove is essential it you want to stay hidden. Smoke and noise from the cutting and burning of wood would be undesirable if you are in hostile territory or being pursued. I have a Peak-One backpackers stove, there are others but this is what I have and can recommend.

            6. Sleeping bag – If you are in a cold area a good sleeping bag could mean the difference between life and death. Get a light weight “mummy” style bag rated to -20 degrees.

            7. Shelter – Rain poncho and tarp or compact tent, stick with natural colors that blend with the surrounding area.

            8. Cooking – I have a Stainless Steel 5-Piece Mess Kit, that I ordered from amazon.com but any lightweight kit will do.

            9. First Aid – It’s best to assemble your own kit, tailored to your needs, or if you are lazy you can buy a ready-made kit. Don’t forget to add personal medications.

            10. Light – I have a 2-AA Cell Mini LED Flashlight Mini LED Flashlight and a 9-Hour Candle.

            11. Tools – A folding saw, Swiss Army pocket knife, and fixed blade knife. A light weight shovel and Machete are nice, but add extra weight.

            12. Clothing – At least one extra pair of socks and underwear add other items if you feel the need and have the space.

            13. Fishing – Line, hooks and sinkers and a few small lures. I also have a small gill net for catching fish.

            14. Snare wire – I make my own from copper wire. Don’t forget to include at least 50 ft of parachute cord.

            14. Plastic bags – Two or three large lawn bags and several zip-lock sandwich bags, can be used for a number of tasks and to keep things dry.
            Small Binoculars – See game and enemy before they see you.
            Sewing kit – Needle and thread don’t forget to include a few extra buttons.
            electrical tape, gloves, sharpening stone etc.
            Firearms and ammo
            Coffee, sugar, and chocolate.
            And salt. Buy these items in bulk. Store in baggies for trade.
            coffee filts for straining water and bleach
            pitchfork
            digging bar
            tow straps/shackles/chain with pipe for towing
            Antacids
            Anti-diarrheal
            BULLETPROOF VESTS
            holsters/pistols
            loadbearing vests
            pain reliever
            Children’s pain reliever
            First aid book
            Prescription medications (keep copies for records)
            Cold/flu medicines
            Vitamins
            Blood clotting
            Sterile gauze
            Dressing bandages
            Dressing rolls
            Medical tape
            Bandages of all sizes
            Alcohol wipes
            Hydrogen peroxide
            Eye flushing solution
            Anesthetic solution
            Hypodermic needles (for the antiseptic solution)
            Electrolyte tablets
            Benadryl
            Scissors
            Tweezers
            Cold Packs
            Warm Blankets
            Antibiotic ointment
            Thermometers
            Skin irritation creams
            Gloves
            Suture needles/string
            WATER!
            giant channel-lock pliers and crescent wrench
            vitamin c…scurvy

            • Excellent list! Thank you for posting!

              • thanks ky mom, and thanks for all your valuable postings on shtfplan!

              • I would add a few things.

                SPROUTING SEEDS – Be sure to stock some sprouting seeds in your pantry. If we couldn’t get to the grocery store, due to a crisis situation (bad weather, blizzard, low finances, sick, etc.), fresh fruits and vegetables would be one of the first things we would miss. This would be especially important if there was a crisis situation was in the winter months.

                Our bodies need plant enzymes to help digest food and regulate bowels. Sprouts can be grown in 3-5 days. They are filled with plant enzymes and high in vitamins and fiber. Sprouts can be stored easily, as they take up very little space.

                If you can’t find sprouts locally, you can order online. You can purchase small packages or a #10 can. 5 lbs. of organic alfalfa seeds (sealed in a #10 can) have a shelf life of 10 years (unopened) when stored properly.
                MEDICINAL PLANT BOOKS – Many useful plants grow wild. Recognizing plants and knowing how to use may save your life someday.

                Stock plenty of BAKING SODA and VINEGAR – These both have many uses – cooking, cleaning, medicinal, etc.
                *Store baking soda in a glass container and it will last indefinitely.

                WOOLY LAMB’S EAR – Grow Your Own Antibacterial Bandages. The plant is medicinal and also edible. The leaves can be used as toilet paper and as menstrual pads.
                Seeds can be purchased online at Amazon. Plant some seeds around your house and cabin.

                CLOTH DIAPERS and DIAPER PINS – Diapers can also be used as bandages.

                Extra QUALITY CAN OPENERS

            • I do have some flour,
              But have been packing away grains, i make bread pretty regular, getting into using whole grains and a variety of different grinds. Can make some pretty damn good bread if i do say so myself.
              Here in the islands nobody grows wheat or oats or anyof the basic grains so am starting to fool with growing and drying,
              The toughest part is the drying, where my farm is located humidity is too high to leave the grain in the fields, so hanging bunches of stalks from the rafters in my shed is the only option, am most likely going to put up another poly tunnel just for that if things go down. Most people here dont even have 1# of flour let alone enough to make breads or tortillas or crackers for an extended period of time,
              Tortillas are one thing i really like, just so damn simple, i like a rustic tortilla more like a thin flat bread, fold it up with some avo, onions, hot peppers, tomatoes, rice and lettuce and you have a bangin taco!

              • to all reading this, please DO pass that list above on to all who are awake, or even if it SEEMS possible to awaken them from their stupor! the more that are awake, and have SUMTHIN’ the better off we will ALL be.. kula, MANY thanks to you! and you remind me of my bread recipe, that i think i got HERE in comments a couple years ago…only 4 ingredients, and no kneading
                1 and a half cups warm water, half teaspoon yeast, 1 tsp salt, 3 cups flour….mix well, let sit for an hour at least or up to 24hrs…push it down and put in a cast iron dutch oven(not really necessary) put in oven, wait an hour or two. turn on oven to 350 and 45 mins later you got some damn good bread. i got better recipes, but this is toooo easy for what it is. add a tablespoon or so of dried onions or other spices for a variation….sage, i think is one i liked.

                • BCOD
                  One of the last attempts had sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, quick oats, poppy seeds and wheat berries, took about a 1/4 to half cup of each buzzed the whole thing in the food processor for a few seconds (just enough to chop up) soaked it in water for bread recipe (3cups hot water)for half hour then made the bread recipe adding the yeast (1.5tbs or 3/4 cup sour dough starter) and flour (6.5cups i usually use half white flour and half whole wheat flour) added about another cup of water to get right consistency, the ground stuff soaked up about that.
                  Been splitting the dough after first rise and poking it in 2 extra large loaf pans, letting it start to rise then sticking it in the oven for 35 minutes at 400 total time about 2 hours

                  • thanks kula, and i was sorry to see you so down a couple days ago….sounds like you are “doing better”…..i share your pain!!!

            • Tire plugs, baking soda, baking powder, rechargeable batteries with solar recharger, motor oil, spark plugs, belts, hoses, tubing, scanner, fuel, stabilizer, duct tape, spare glasses, chapstick, grease, walkie talkies, yeast, sugar, knife sharpener, extra can openers, space blankets, wool blankets, binoculars, suture kit with fresh sutures, chainsaw and supplies, hand tools, sewing kit, clothespins, paracord, assorted screws nails and bolts, magnifying glass, sunglasses, tobacco and papers (for barter if you dont smoke), gauze, antibiotic ointment, medical tape, notebooks and pens, small hand reloading kit with powder and bullets and primers for your most used weapon (s), boonie hats, belts, super glue, books on edible plants, scissors, ace bandages. Theres a few more to add, Thanks buttcrack, good to see people post useful things!

              • thanks genius. i do see a couple things i aint got, but they ARE on my big list, this one is the short version i whittled down a while back so it didn’t take up to much room here…your list will be added to MY short list….and thanks for being here to contribute!

            • BCOD,
              I consider that everything you posted IS part of our family’s “hard currency” acquisition program.
              It’s far easier to acquire than pgm’s, and far more useful for long term use.
              While we do acquire precious metals for wealth protection and control them in OUR possession, we do not solely rely on them.
              Thanks for the pertinent post.

              • thanks, TP!

            • BCOD… ty for your list.

              I like it when I visit this SHTFplan place and am reminded of something I need.

              Your list is very thorough. IF you are missing anything, I’m thinking you will have something to barter/trade with.

              I have a similar inventory. It includes…

              spud bar. a heavy one. mine is a BEAST.

              booze. I don’t drink, but I have some bottles in padded 5gal buckets.

              cannabis. just like booze, people need their buzz.

              Keep up the great work.

              • thanks ben for the compliment, it means a lot to me….it really WAS a lot of work/thought…on MY part AND many OTHERS too!

            • from Australia fuck me that list looks like the one that we all need to get ready time is short

              • sadly, most of U.S. don’t see it coming…even shtf viewers are for the most part unaware of how soon it will hit, shitcon 5 is how i see it right now!

            • This is a great list BoD. I disagree on the socks. Having been on 50-milers in Boy Scouts, I found that you need three pair of wool sock and three pair of liner (polypropelene wicking types). The reason being that sometimes you need to change socks mid-day. In the evening you wash out what you wore and hang them to dry while wearing your Tevas or some such in camp (something else to give your boots a chance to air out). During the next day, the socks are clipped to your pack to complete drying. BTW, in hot humid weather, wool socks can take 2.5 days to dry completely. Now you know why three pairs of socks. Yes, wool socks are comfy in any kind of weather.

              Get the best wool socks you can afford. You won’t be sorry. My choice is merino wool because it’s hard wearing and still cushy enough to be very comfortable. I’m still using some of my wool socks from my assistant scoutmaster days.

              I get a little crazy about socks and shoes but when that’s your transportation choose well. Would you bug out in a $3000 beater or a fully prepared Land Rover? Think the same for footwear. It will make a difference.

              • i just hiked to the top of mt baldy here in so cal wearing just that. military wool and dress socks underneath. i could write a FEW paragraphs about feet, hiking, blisters,….MOST americans won’t be ABLE to get so far that they NEED 2 pairs of socks, let alone 3, but i bow to my master when it comes to hiking long distance…and don’t forget the moleskin! thanks for contributing!

        • “Protect myself with hard assets?Do firearms/bows/crossbows ect. count as hard assets,they may protect me.”

          Yes, they do… and so are guns and ammo, land, rental houses, and a profitable business that can remain viable during a SHTF situation. But the article is speaking of financial survival, not physical survival… as I’m sure you know. 🙂

          Hard assets = REAL things that are necessary to sustain life

          Soft assets = anything based on paper or items that are not necessary to sustain life.

          • how is a “rental house” going to protect you after SHTF?..nobody will have money, or what will even PASS FOR money, when the flag goes UP..it’s ALREADY pretty damned hard to rent a home around HERE…..and land?…..that’s a TAX machine for the gubmint. FARMland, yes……food is where a LOT of MY money has gone lately….and i aint worried ’bout any expiration dates neither…..we gettin’ CLOSE!

            • I think you’re missing his point. He is referring to after the SHTF calms down and his investment property is still standing as opposed to a piece of paper that just went poof !! Real Estate is just as good as PM when the shit calms down… just sayin.

            • it just pisses me off though that my food for 2 for 2 years might become food for 20 for a week,….and i aint gonna be ONE of ’em.

        • Speaking of hard assets, I can’t believe No one is commenting on California banning all hunt using Lead. This will be in three phases, lead will be ban for all hunting State wide by 1 July 2019. As goes California, so goes the Country! Trekker Out.

          • Trekker,
            commentors like you and articles like the last one are what keep me coming back to SHTF. The frogs are being boiled for sure. As for me, my “hard assets” are focused on value producing investments. garden plot and possibly farm. Hand implements (imaging the skyrocket on tools once eotwawki). I think the actual situation coming is BEING IGNORED by most preppers. You take the 150M Americans on the dole and turn off the free lunch… what will happen? Ain’t going to be enough food and sewage services to keep them placated. Jokes will be stealing from your garden when you sleep and your house when you are away. Gpa told me in the GD if you had a shed the only thing which would keep people from stealing from it was big dogs in the yard or you there with a gun. I don’t have dogs nor a home protection gun; so, guess I’d better make sure my neighbors are provided for… I’m doing little things here and there. My long-winded point is it won’t matter if you have a truckload of gold because the man with a potato will be the king. We are sitting on a financial timebomb which is sitting on an agricultural timebomb which is sitting on a social timebomb which is all built on an energy timebomb. They are all ticking. Any one of them will not be just SHTF but EOTWAWKI. Right now, right this minute we are playing chicken with fiat. We all know that.
            Dude Out

            • Dude!

              The man with the antibiotics can be King too.
              Have any gold or silver to trade.

              Having some can be better than having none.

              All these years and we still argue whether gold or silver would be part of our preps. Well maybe we are going to find out for sure one day.

              • Some silver and gold, yes. There were predictions for a crash when gold was up to $1800 oz but the real crash was when gold lost 1/3 of it’s value and silver lost half.

                A neighbor sold all the firewood he had a year ago and that winter was very cold. Firewood was very hard to find for sale. His prices went up too. Now this winter he had put everything he had in firewood to sell, and despite the very cold winter we had, no one bought his wood. I can get some cheap now because he can’t get rid of it. Hard assets can go up and down in value. I believe we should get what we need to survive, not depend on speculation of the hard asset’s value on future markets.

                • If gold/silver are going to go to $1000s of dollars in the future, why don’t those that already have it to sell (the marketing agents) just keep their gold/silver till then?.?

                  Anyone? Anyone?

                  • I’m not sure who you’re considering “marketing agents,” but unless you have money coming out your ears, if whatever you are selling is where your income comes from, you still need current cash flow, so declining to sell it until the price goes higher isn’t a viable option.

                    • To me there is a chance my Pm’s may skyrocket in value tho maybe for a short time. If so I will use them to pay off debts, buy real estate I’ve been eyeing, etc, before the cost of bread and everything else catches up, so there may be a week or months lead time where its value gains stay ahead of other assets.

                  • That’s easy: they buy gold and silver from other people so they have inventory to sell.

                    • Hit the buzzer for the bonus round! The only real money to be made in gold and silver is in the MARKETING of it! Granted, if you bought gold in the early 90s at $250 – $350 an oz. you made money as of today but we’re talking a period of over 25 years!
                      Wake up and smell the coffee, the gold/silver deal is a scam….been there done that!
                      I’ll take brass, lead, and food any day!

                    • If you bought gold anytime before 2010 you made money as of now. Nice try anon lol.

                • one of the MOST important things MIGHT be clothes to keep you warm and dry. that’s why i buy/sell military gear, especially cold-weather stuff….just remember when you go out to buy it, if yer FAT, it will be much harder to find your size….a word to the wise….get military-grade longjohns, fleece jackets, goretex parkas….and you won’t be cold ever again….until you assume room-temperature, of course! there’s other cold-weather gear, but that’s the ESSENTIAL stuff….anyone wants me to expand on that just comment here and i will go into more detail. i hike in rain, snow, under35 degree temps often in this stuff so i know what works.

                  • Get down to the thrift shops and pick up good shoes and work boots, cold weather boots, and clothing to work out of doors in. We’re all going to be spending our days doing labor in producing food in some fashion.

            • The farm tools will be huge,
              Im looking to get either a Grillo or Earthtools walk behind tractor with a deisel engine, the small engines work pretty well on bio fuels, ie vegetable oil and running them straight vegetable oil is pretty easy, we have year round growing here and i alreadyhave tons of castor bean growing around the property and in the gulch by the farm, been working on a hydraulic oil press, the caster oil is an excellent small engine fuel, clean,
              I like good hand tools but a walk behind will save a lot of back breaking hand work

              • BCS tiller not an Earthtool,
                Earthtools is where you can find the tillers etc

                • I will have a walk behind, too. She’s Morgan mare, and all I need is the plow….:)

                  • So the Amish will be kings!
                    Seriously, I’m figuring this will take decades or centuries rather than years. Who knows.

                  • Babycatcher, Have you ever plowed with her?

          • Trekker, Were talking about the us, not california lol.

      2. OFF THE SUBJECT EVERYONE.
        BUT DID YOU SEE WHERE (IRAN)
        TURNED OFF THE POWER IN TURKEY FOR 12 HRS
        WITH A CYBER ATTACK
        BOY THAT WAS SHTF THERE………..
        THIS HAPPENED MARCH 30, 2015

        STAND-BY JIMMY JAM
        DORTHY IS COMING HOME WITH TOE DOE………

        • OOOPS !!! THATs MARCH 31, 2015

          • Here in the U.S., we’re in the middle of a food crisis. With California drying up, cattle and pigs dying off, and this new avian flu killing millions on poultry farms, we’ve just about devastated our own food supply.

            The response by the U.S. government? SHIP MORE JOBS OVERSEAS, TAKE CONTROL OF WHATEVER THEY CAN AND REGULATE THE HELL OUT OF WHAT’S LEFT.

            The Russian response to their food crisis, however, should garner some respect. Their answer, is to BLISTER AND IMPROVE PRODUCTION AT HOME, BY ANY MEANS THEY CAN.

            ht tp://rt.com/business/251989-russia-agriculture-minister-products/

            Our elitist govt kicks us in the teeth at every turn. I am so ashamed and angry with what passes for government in this country.

            • I meant “bolster” not blister.

              • blister same across even more!
                THAT, is EXACTLY what I said six months ago that Russia would do. The Russia haters are clueless. Russia is huge and smart. Doesn’t need other countries other than for historical momentum market reasons. If Putin is a great leader Russia will be fully autonomous in 10 years. Autonomy=Sovereignty. TPTB cornered Russia and they have no choice but to bow down or man up. Looks like they are manning up, to me.

            • damn right, sixpack!…days away from anarchy is what I SEE…and anybody that CAN’T see it is probly deaf and DUMB…..or lyin’ sacks of used dogfood….bunch of damn criminals in our gubmint.

              • How The Second Tech Bubble Will Burst, In The Words Of Silicon Valley’s “Poster Child” And World’s Youngest Billionaire

                “Fed has created abnormal market conditions by printing money and keeping interest rates low.

                Investors are looking for growth anywhere they can find it and tech companies are good targets – at these values, however, all tech stocks are expensive – even looking at 5+ years of revenue growth down the road.

                This means that most value-driven investors have left the market and the remaining 5-10%+ increase in market value will be driven by momentum investors.

                At some point there won’t be any momentum investors left buying at higher prices, and the market begins to tumble. May be 10-20% correction or something more significant, especially in tech stocks.”

                http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-23/how-tech-bubble-will-burst-words-silicon-valleys-poster-child-and-worlds-youngest-bi

      3. Balance is the key…
        Wish I had bought more pm’s in 99…

        • Yeah… or back in ’64. 😉

          • No kidding, I remember the lines around the block, folks plunking down $1,000 for a bag of silver dollars at the Reserve banks before they shut it down.

            I knew a kid at school said his dad got a bag of Carson City Morgans. Hope they didn’t sell them for bullion.

        • I just wish I still had what I had back them. When it wasn’t so expensive, nobody cared about it. You bought jewelry to wear, but I don’t remember anyone really talking about putting their money into PMs. Not like we do now. But I guess in 1964, a quarter was worth 25% of a dollar…

          • The problem with going back to 1964 for me is I was only making about $72. [or was it $79] a month working for uncle Sam plus a few extras like beefy chips on toast and daily other edible stuff. I shouldn’t complain though, I was getting a hell of a lot of exercise avoiding lead poisoning. cheers

          • The problem with going back to 1964-65 for me is I was only making about $72. [or was it $79, it was 50 yrs ago] a month working for uncle Sam plus a few extras like beefy chips on toast and daily other edible stuff. I shouldn’t complain though, I was getting a hell of a lot of exercise avoiding lead poisoning. cheers

            • sorry about the repeat. started to edit the last post and it disappeared and posted WTH

      4. Jim Rickards has advised to invest in precious metals, fine art, and land. Also, he suggests investing in mining royalty company Franco-Nevada Corporation (NYSE:FNV).

        • The problem with real estate is the government. After the Civil War the carpetbagger governments installed by the north jacked real estate taxes up so high that everybody lost their plantations.

          This was planned government tyranny and the end result was to give the freed slaves 40 acres and a mule.

          In Argentina during this second collapse the people have learned to buy real estate to preserve wealth, but what about taxes?

          As governments get more desperate, taxes will increase dramatically.

          That being said, I still believe owning property is the way to go. I have just paid off my house as my final steps in my preps.

          • In Poland under communist rule, farmers were allowed a small 1/4 acre patch on which food grown could be kept or sold, some how Polls managed to produce more food on that quarter acre than the rest of their 5 to 10 acre state owned farm. Don’t you love communism.

            Many Americans during the Great Depression produced more than enough food on a quarter acre to survive!

            There is a pattern here. Get some books on home farming now, before the Internet goes dark!

            • Bingo. I think this is the best advice. Also, not just books but to start now. Setup a micro-farm in your yard. Doing is learning.

              • Yup, it can take years to build up good healthy soil. If you just plow up a back yard and start growing crops, it may be disappointing.

            • Elliot Coleman has some excellent books,
              Four season harvest
              New organic grower
              Both are loaded with good info, his style has been spot on for me.
              Good things to get now while you can get them are
              Fertilizer
              Row cover material
              Netting
              Pyrethryn/BT(Dipel) these two are real handy for pest control
              If you are not already gardening you need to get rolling,
              Dont kid yourself thinking its easy and you will do it when the time comes
              One lady i spoke with had no idea that to save seeds on most veggies you vouldnt harvest the veggies and eat them,,,
              Stuff to think about

              • Kula, have you ever tried diametrious earth for pest control? We have and it worked great! A 50 pound bag was like 50 bux online.

              • Kula,
                DE works great BUT only when dry, so if your getting lots of rain over there it will be harder for it to do the job, we use it all the time here , there are TWO kinds one is more expensive and the other is very cheap but it is for swimming pool filters and has some chlorine in it, both are good just the one with chlorine cannot be used where your animals might eat it.

          • I too paid off my property, but we don’t own it. The taxes we pay is rent. No pay rent – they take away.

            • It gets worse: with all the bundled mortgages that have been sold there’s no way to know who really owns your property. It certainly isn’t you.

          • I wonder when the dollar is worth “0” what will the government take for payment of taxes? Your Land!

        • The difference between Greece collapse and other countries is that Greece can not print money. Everybody else can, so there won’t be a flash collapse in the US, instead it will be a hockey stick inflation because of money printing.

        • High probability………yes

      5. off subject.
        I have a question for you all.
        I remember a hymn from when I was younger, and I would like to know how many of you know how to finish it.
        forgive my spelling, but you will get the point.

        glory, glory, hallelujah,
        teacher hit me with a ruler.
        hid behind the door, with…..

        so. how many of your remember that, or could finish that, from say 30~50 years ago?
        now imagine if a child sang that today.

        they would be sent to the principal, suspended, and put on Ritalin, for the next few years at best. are we now creating these monsters we want to avoid, you bet we are.
        young subdued minds are like idle hands.

        many parents go along with this kind of crap because:
        (1) they have no choice in order to keep them In their current school.
        (2) they don’t know shit about the long term side effects of these dangerous drugs on developing minds.
        (3) they don’t give a shit.

        we have entered into the most P/C society that has ever existed, and our children / grandchildren are paying the price.
        we can worry about rights being taken away, or lies from the media in one shape or form, but until we look at the early stages of indoctrination, the true hope of free independent thinking, and true education, this country will surely be over like a thief in the night.

        • “Burning Down the School”

          Wikipedia to the rescue:

          Glory, glory, hallelujah
          My teacher hit me with a ruler
          I hid behind her door with a loaded .44
          And the teacher don’t teach no more!

          • That’s how I remember it.

          • ..I stood by the door, with my loaded .44, and she ain’t my teacher anymore..

            • I remember differently, I hit him in the weenie with a yellow tangerinie. Or was that just my town in the Midwest who made that up?

          • My version was
            “Teacher hit me with a ruler…
            I bonked her off the bean with a rotten tangerine,and there ain’t no school no more…

        • Also, I remember:

          “Milk, milk, lemonade,
          Around the corner fudge is made.”
          (hand gestures: right boob, left boob, crotch, butt)

          “I come before you,
          To stand behind you,
          To tell you something,
          Which I know nothing about.
          Next Tuesday,
          Which is Good Friday,
          There’s a women’s meeting,
          Which is only for men.
          The admission is free,
          You pay at the door,
          You bring your chair,
          And sit on the floor.”

          “Open the fridge,
          Take out a Coke,
          Drink it down.
          Me Chinese,
          Me play joke,
          Me go pee-pee in your Coke”

      6. Don’t put too much into anything that might get outlawed.

        • Or easily confiscated.

          • Which means no PMs.

          • Well….. maybe not so easily. Hope you’re doing well six.

            • Thanks PO’d P. At the moment, things have worked their way out in my favor. I’m not a slave to big pharma anymore, some of my worst issues have worked themselves out, THIS MONTH ALONE, and my life is much easier. I have more time and energy to manage my preps and keep stacking with so much less pain.

              I’ve been several times blessed.

              If there is a calm before the storm, I must be in it right now, so I’m battening down the hatches while I can.

        • Sharon, Like guns and storage food? lol 🙂

      7. Investing in gold and silver is a wise financial move, IMO. But, like other assets, it IS possible to go over-board with them. I read comments from people all the time, stating that they have “gone all in” with silver, gold, or both… then they get mad when prices drop. If that’s what they want, it’s their money and they can do whatever they want with it. But that is not based on sound investing principles.

        A better approach, IMO, is to allocate a specific percentage of your assets to gold and silver and the rest to other things of your choice. For me, that includes stocks, mutual funds, real estate, and ETFs. I’ve made good money in them so far, so see no reason to stop making it. That said, times ARE getting weird and more so all the time. That means that buying some insurance against economic and financial SHTF is in order. Stacking gold and silver is my way of doing that. I don’t care about all the bumps and dumps in the paper price because for me this is a game of ounces and not paper dollars. Whether the price of these metals is up or down, the ounces I have stacked remains the same or increases as I buy more.

        Remember when gold was $300 and silver was $5 an oz.? They didn’t seem especially cheap then but they sure do now. In a few years, we will all look back at 2015 and think the same thing. So, be proactive and scoop some up and today’s bargain prices.

        Just don’t forget your other preps while doing it. Food, water, water purification means, meds, ammo, batteries, flash-lights, comms, etc. All of these and more could easily come in handy during nasty weather and a SHTF scenario. That stuff will be used and when bought on sale and in bulk actually saves some money via not participating in the inflation game as much as we otherwise would.

        Above all, enjoy life and the love of family and friends. 🙂

        • Hey guys I am buying gold NOT as a investment— So i do not care if it is going up or down –I am just accumulating it right now with my SOON TO BE WORTHLESS DOLLARS 1 gram at a time and my SS# is NOT taken–so no one knows I am buying it or have it. When this life changing situation starts to unfold there will be panicking in the streets like we have never seen here in the USA and those who do not own Gold will try to get it as they try to get their worthless dollars out of their ATM and it will be shut down. 1 gram gold bars can be used to buy Food, Gas and other daily staples you need to survive. 1 gram bars are about 65.00 today. If you want to know where i am buying my Gold just ask. It is delivered right to my door via Fed Ex. You can reach me at anactiveguy AT Yahoo.com –Stay Safe –Frank

          • Frank with all due respect if it’s delivered to your door then someone knows you have it. I would rather buy in cash at local jeweler

          • Why oh why would you do this rather than easily recognizable “junk silver” coins????

          • APMEX.com ??

        • It would be insane to invest in mutual funds, real estate, and ETF’s. There’s a huge stock market crash coming. Real estate isn’t portable and it’s easily seized. Gold ETF’s don’t have any gold. It’s just a ponzi scheme.

          If you have a LOT of money to invest then buy a great bug out property.

      8. The privet hedges needed to be cut back again, so I spent Tuesday cutting them down. I then trimmed away everything much smaller than 1/4″ and put the resulting pieces away as an experiment in free, renewable rocket stove fuel. My wife helps because she can see the possibilities that many people don’t have the imagination to see.

        The next thing to do is to try out some of the privet hedge fuel I put up to dry last fall.

        If it works well, I’ll have a limitless supply of cooking fuel.

        • Archivist,
          On the rocket stove,
          Is yours a home built? Or purchased?
          I like the idea of the rocket stove, simple and uses way less fuel, have seen all sorts of designs on the net and one i saw that i really liked was made with hollow tiles or fire bricks and clay plaster, super simple and more permanent for home cooking, im sorta doing the same as you with regards to saving trimmings for firewood, have been looking at our current and future plantings as well as what sorts of volunteer shrubry we have in a whole new light.

          • I haven’t built the stove yet, but I have the materials. I might build the classic one out of a #10 can and some soup cans with perlite as the insulator, or I might go ahead and build a larger one out of fire bricks to do more serious cooking.

            Everyone should have a few #10 and smaller cans for projects. I have the perlite mainly for my square foot garden soil mix. My fire bricks used to be the floor of a small tool shed where I used to live. I took everything, including plants, when I moved.

            I thought of using the privet hedge because it’s a weed that grows everywhere around here, it’s fast growing, and everyone expects to see you cutting them down. I drag a pile to a shady spot, sit in my lawn chair, and start trimming. I put the leaves and very small stuff in the wheelbarrow to haul to the trash pile. I can take a huge pile of privet hedge and reduce it to a bundle of sticks and just one load of trash.

      9. Gold..yeah… NOT !!
        Silver is definitely the way to go on so many levels.
        Up to you though – both are good, just that silver is way better..
        Gotta see the big picture – when people lose their jobs,houses etc, they won’t have the money to put into gold but will for silver…

        5 months to go now…boom baby…

        • Silver is great if you never leave your house – but you should still have a stash of a dozen or so gold coins. If you have to become a refugee, carrying one suitcase or backpack, passing through checkpoints, etc – then you can only carry a little bit of silver due to weight.

          • You could get some 1/10 of an ounce gold coins that are covered in plastic and stay together. You could easily cut a hole in the inside pocket of your coat and stuff them into the lining. Then sew it up again. They’re so thin that nobody would know that they’re there.

            • CombiBars. gold or silver

            • If the fractional gold coins are sewed into clothing, remember to NOT lose or giveaway that clothing. I was thinking that several fractional coins sewn into one of my normal caps I wear (getting balder by the second) would also enhance the self-defense capability of said cap, effectively giving me a “sap cap” should the need arise. Just thinking out loud.(sliver would work well also)

        • Gold is way more portable (is it easier to carry a couple thousand dollars worth of gold or a couple thousand dollars worth of silver with you? Or keep it hidden, for that matter?)

          Mot hard core survivalist types I know favor 90% silver dimes, and that may not be a bad idea at all for an emergency where you have to move out in a hurry and will need to spend some along the way.

          • There are advantages to each. Gold is more expensive. You could have about $5000 in the form of 4 one ounce gold coins. They’re easy to hide. Easy to smuggle if you have to travel.

            Silver is perfect for small purchases, especially in the form of junk silver coins. If you get one ounce silver coins, about $5000 worth of silver weighs about 16 lbs. It’s still portable but not as easy to hide.

      10. Getting ready to cut loose a safe queen and pick up more silver. Been watching it bump around the high 15’s, low 16’s long enough.

      11. Agree with others that any real estate that has a house will be taxed out of your hands by the carpetbaggers. Agree with others that hard assets can be PMs or prep supplies (they will always be needed, the price will rise, they can be bartered, and they cannot be easily taxed). Would like to add that another hard asset would be to learn one or more ancient skills (beyond hunting). If a time machine dropped you back into 1850 – what job are you qualified for?

        Disagree with author on mining stocks – they will issue more shares of stock and dilute your shares, and who will have money to buy them from you? Disagree with author that assets in ‘respectful’ countries are worth holding today – if (when) things go bad war and governments change things.

      12. FWIW, i grew up near a family from Korea. they had done like this. Went to Gold and got out of dodge. So, when they came to USA they could buy a small store and were in business. Apparently, gold is just as spendable in other countries everywhere. 🙂
        Similarly, I had a jr high teacher who’s family used to be rich before the war on slavery (sic). Said he had a chest full of money at home… only it was the wrong currency! LOL. No doubt in the next years or decades his story will be repeated by many the world over.

      13. 40K in Snap-On tools and ASE Master Tech certs.

        A free and clear house on 5 acres of tillable land with deer fence located in BFE.

        2 wells and a 5000 watt solar system with 2250 watts of panels and 900 amp hours of batteries.

        Reloading bench with dies,primers,powder and bullets for all common calibers.

        Small block chevy engine parts and auto transmission valve bodies for pre-electronic era conversions.

        1954 Ford 860 tractor with 3 bottom plow and 6′ disc.

        Caches pre-positioned for bug out if it comes to it.

        Plenty of different bang-bang tools and long range shooting training.

        We had all of this BEFORE we added PMs to our preps.

        Set your priorities because you need many things before you need financial assets.

        • $40,000 in snap on tools is about three sets of socket wrenches and a tool chest. I stick with the cheap crap from Harbor Freight. I don’t feel bad when I loose it or break it. Use once and throw it away and you got your money’s worth out of it!

          • Dude, you rock!
            Guess you’ll be king if the ponzeconomy ever ends.
            And a prince even today,
            Good luck.

        • Tools will be a dime a dozen when nobody has any food. They won’t be very useful after it hits the fan and there’s no gasoline.

          • I’ll bet you use an incredible Norinco firearm to bet your survival on as well. Snipers all over the world use junk shit to shoot with, don’t they?
            We’ll see who is the last man eating. You all with NO skill and junk shit tools, or me with everything I need to keep stuff running.
            I didn’t say you need to have the best. I’m sure your talent and usage would not tax junk shit anyway. Try earning a good living for 40 years with your junk shit and get back to me.
            You people amaze me. I was simply pointing out what I have aquired over the years. piss off.

            If you think engines only run on gas you deserve to starve.

            • I agree with you sir. People always like to talk shit who do or have done the least. Quality tools whether they go bang or fix things are always valuable. So are the skills and knowledge to use them. Good for you on the long range firearms training. When it comes down to it long range will be the best way to deal with foreign invaders, and unfortunately quick close up to deal with those who have not had the forethought to prepare who would resort to tyrannical means for their survival. SEMPER FI, DE OPPRESSO LIBER. God bless

      14. When the old Soviet Union was falling apart, it’s citizens were converting their rubles into hard assets. Most of it was can goods, bulk foods and fuel.

        I had dinner with a couple, the wife was Argentinian. The evening’s discussion floated over to what people did to counter act the rampant inflation. People there would take their pay checks and spend them as quickly as possible. Basically converting their money into high dollar items and food.

        When the warning bells come on and the economy is really tanking here, I will be converting mine into long term foods, medical supplies and ammunition. I already have my list made up and cash counted up. I told my boss if I ever show up to work with a suit case full of 100 dollar bills and a list to be pulled and invoiced that day; things are THAT BAD. He laughed it off and thought I was joking. I’m not.

        • There was a story from Germany in 1925. The school teachers were paid twice a day because inflation was so rampant. The government was giving money to the business to pay employees.

          The school teacher said she would walk over to the fence at the play ground and give it to her husband who would immediately go spend it. She said that they bought things like tableware, shirts, linens and other small items, but actual physical assets.

          These items could then be used for trade later.

          • They also bought food in the middle of the day because it would be more expensive by the time they got off work.

        • If you ordered a restaurant meal, you paid for it at once because the prices would be higher by the time it was served and eaten.

          There’s a story about a guy went to buy bread with a wheelbarrow full of inflation currency. The wheelbarrow wouldn’t fit through the door of the bakery, so he left it outside while he went in and ordered the bread. Came out to get the money to pay for it, found the currency neatly stacked up on the sidewalk, but the wheelbarrow was gone.

          Probably not a true story, but certainly tells you the situation at the time.

      15. Its been decades since I’ve had anything to do with a hard ass. OK I’ll put this in my ear, thanks Grandma. Oh my, we all know an ass sits. OK I’ll put the other one in. Oh it is more advice for the youngsters. Like a Credit Union using Constitutional currency.

      16. Hey guys—we all know something is in the works to happen and many many Americans have their heads in the sand. Our Way of life in the United States is soon to change. I know many of us that visit this site have been storing Water, Food, Toilet Paper, Bullets, Gasoline, Propane and hard assets as Gold and Silver. If you need a place to buy gold that DOES NOT REQUIRE A SS# contact me. No One knows that you have purchased this gold and your information is NOT RELEASED to anyone or to any COUNTRY . They will also store your gold for FREE so the safety of your gold is not needed in your own home safe. Good luck to you all as this next year unfolds.

        • Where can you buy?

          • APMEX.com

        • Why would anyone let someone else store their gold?

          • yeah no doubt..
            Germany is learning that hard lesson

        • This is good satire Frank. I’ll bet you are planning to use digital records for all that stored physical. Gold is dangerous to store yourself so we will store it for you. Here is a receipt for the gold you deposit with us. He is gone with his receipt so now we can make debt based loans against his gold deposit. We could loan out one hundred times the value of his gold and make billions through usury. Then we can lend, lease and rehypothecate his physical gold to control the price of our receipts and make untold wealth through cheating, lying and betting. With this plan we could rule the world. Nah, they will never ask for their physical gold back but if they do we will pay politicians to make us not liable, engineer ownership of gold as socially unacceptable and the taxpayers can backstop us while we pull the trigger. It is convoluted but we can hide it by proxy use of the word Federal. The people will never question it. If they do, we are backstopped by our unsecured depositors anyway. “He wasn’t using his gold, it was just sitting there unsecured in those locked boxes we have rented out over there”. After we gain the common wealth and when things ultimately get hot we can just eliminate all the sovereign receipts and introduce another to rule them all. Since we will have stolen the majority of wealth we must control those who have access to it. Those granted the right to withdraw will be specially selected. We will call it the Special Drawing Right.

        • Say goodbye to any gold you have stored by a third party. And goodbye to the money you bought it with, too.

        • Frank,
          US stored Germany’s gold too. How did that work out for Germany?

      17. Think about stocking up on Viagra. Once everything hits the fan I predict that Viagra will be worth a lot.

        • Densus, now thats a hard asset.

      18. If you can’t put your hands on your hard assets you’ll get burnt bad and I mean bad (fatal more than likely).

        One hard asset you can never go wrong with source of CLEAN WATER.

        • that may be the most important thing i’ve read in a LOOOOONG time, copperhaid!

      19. With the stroke of a pen, it could be illegal to own gold…AGAIN!

        • And with the pull of the trigger anyone who wrote, signed or tries to enforce that can be dead.

          • Think that through a bit.

            Whoever pulls that trigger will also be dead in short order afterwards.

      20. or perhaps you should invest some of your money HERE!!! please excuse the redundancies, as i been working on this list for over 6 years.

        FIRST AID MANUAL water….sugar….flour….powdered milk……….t/p………………top ramen….pancake mix….candy, rock…..wasp spray coffee filts…..vitamins…..DOG FOOD…VEG OIL………duct……….tape…….antibiotics……..rice…..beans…………macaroni…………bleach…………benadryl…..wipies….garbage bags…….plastic cups,forks,spoon,knives .22 rounds….12 guage
        IV for rehydration
        photo albums, identification (birth certificates, social security cards, financial documents, wills/deeds, and medical insurance information), proof of address, as well as items for a 72 hour bag.
        clothes for all the family
        fill freezer
        brillo pad makes a good fire starter
        extreme cooler

        A Backup Plan

        A K-Bar Fighting Knife

        Salt
        Extra Batteries
        Medicine
        Propane

        Pet Food

        Heirloom Seeds
        An LED Headlamp

        Candles

        Clorox

        Calcium Hypochlorite
        Maps Of Your Area
        Rifle For Hunting

        Extra Socks
        Gold And Silver Coins For Bartering

        citizens band radio

        jeep
        toolbag

        eyeglasses

        computer

        battery chargers and phone chargers

        kool aid

        bleach

        bike tubes…and a BIKE, of course

        gold/silver

        coins

        2×8’s for crossing obstacles

        wasp spray

        hunting knife

        food

        vaseline

        water

        hatchet

        dutch oven

        coffee/water filters

        Gun Cleaning Kit & Supplies
        Wire and Wire Cutters
        Fire Extinguisher
        hacksaw………GOOD pair of wire cutters….butt connector pliers and wire connectors ….11-1 screwdrivers-not some cheap-o
        6 foot Pry bars-lift heavy items, pop open doors, break locks, move hot objects. harbor freight
        sandpaper/crocus cloth…………….. file for sharpening tools……….. hammer
        MAGNIFYING GLASS FIRESTARTEr
        bailing wire
        box of bolts/nuts/hose clamps
        stanley pocket saw
        3/32” E-6010 welding rods. These can be used with three 12 volt car batteries and some jumper cables to make an emergency field repair.
        peanut butter and crackers makes a great shtf meal
        vise grips

        fix a flat/compressor
        Tarp (2) and 500 para-cord (shelter) You want two tarps, one for shelter above the head and one for the ground under your head.
        0-20 degree sleeping bag. Sleeping bags will usually fit securely on the outside of your pack.
        Ponchos to protect from rain
        A folding saw and shovel.
        A handheld chainsaw (they are about the size of a mans wallet)
        Lightweight hatchet
        Army survival manual
        2 pairs of socks. One pair of our socks is a thermal type that will keep your feet warm in up to zero degree weather. It all depends on where you live and where you will be traveling. Cotton socks tend to hold moisture so you might not want cotton.
        A good pair of warm gloves/work gloves. Mine are a combination of both.
        A pair of good boots or hiking shoes
        A pair of long pants. I prefer not to have jeans. They are heaver and if they get wet, they stay wet for a long time.
        One pair thermal underwear/pants and shirt.
        dogs and dog food
        cash!
        deck of cards
        food…pepperoni granola bars…..
        first aid book
        paper plates
        ziplock bags
        aluminum foil
        butane stove or some other way to cook
        eye drops
        chap stick
        lotion
        rope
        plastic wrap
        sanitizer
        toothpaste/toothbrush
        powdered milk will be HUUUUGGGGEEEEEE ..buy a LOT of it!

        here’s my most complete list of stuff you might need if the excrement ever hits the rotating mass of twisted metal. i have other lists, but this is most of the good stuff you’ll need. if you read comments after some of links you will find other stuff i forgot……………………..just in case TSHTF. hee hee…..if you see something i missed or don’t know where to get some of this stuff, i would love to hear about it thanks randy effen wellman.
        http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/bug-out-bag/ definitely read comments afterwards
        Bug Out Bag Contents
        1. The Pack – I have a LC-1 “Alice” pack but any quality pack with enough capacity will do. Stick with camouflage, dark green or other natural colors that blend with the terrain.

        2. Water – A canteen with cup and cover for your belt, water bottle and a good filter.

        3. Fire – Waterproof matches, a magnesium fire starter and tinder.

        4. Food – Pack enough to last 5-7 days. Rice, oat meal, beef jerky, energy bars etc. Another option is MRE’s and the freeze-dried foods. Choose foods that are light weight and a suitable shelf life.

        5. Stove – A small stove is essential it you want to stay hidden. Smoke and noise from the cutting and burning of wood would be undesirable if you are in hostile territory or being pursued. I have a Peak-One backpackers stove, there are others but this is what I have and can recommend.

        6. Sleeping bag – If you are in a cold area a good sleeping bag could mean the difference between life and death. Get a light weight “mummy” style bag rated to -20 degrees.

        7. Shelter – Rain poncho and tarp or compact tent, stick with natural colors that blend with the surrounding area.

        8. Cooking – I have a Stainless Steel 5-Piece Mess Kit, that I ordered from amazon.com but any lightweight kit will do.

        9. First Aid – It’s best to assemble your own kit, tailored to your needs, or if you are lazy you can buy a ready-made kit. Don’t forget to add personal medications.

        10. Light – I have a 2-AA Cell Mini LED Flashlight Mini LED Flashlight and a 9-Hour Candle.

        11. Tools – A folding saw, Swiss Army pocket knife, and fixed blade knife. A light weight shovel and Machete are nice, but add extra weight.

        12. Clothing – At least one extra pair of socks and underwear add other items if you feel the need and have the space.

        13. Fishing – Line, hooks and sinkers and a few small lures. I also have a small gill net for catching fish.

        14. Snare wire – I make my own from copper wire. Don’t forget to include at least 50 ft of parachute cord.

        14. Plastic bags – Two or three large lawn bags and several zip-lock sandwich bags, can be used for a number of tasks and to keep things dry.
        Small Binoculars – See game and enemy before they see you.
        Sewing kit – Needle and thread don’t forget to include a few extra buttons.
        electrical tape, gloves, sharpening stone etc.
        Firearms and ammo
        Coffee, sugar, and chocolate.
        And salt. Buy these items in bulk. Store in baggies for trade.
        coffee filts for straining water and bleach
        pitchfork
        digging bar
        tow straps/shackles/chain with pipe for towing
        Antacids
        Anti-diarrheal
        BULLETPROOF VESTS
        holsters/pistols
        loadbearing vests
        pain reliever
        Children’s pain reliever
        First aid book
        Prescription medications (keep copies for records)
        Cold/flu medicines
        Vitamins
        Blood clotting
        Sterile gauze
        Dressing bandages
        Dressing rolls
        Medical tape
        Bandages of all sizes
        Alcohol wipes
        Hydrogen peroxide
        Eye flushing solution
        Anesthetic solution
        Hypodermic needles (for the antiseptic solution)
        Electrolyte tablets
        Benadryl
        Scissors
        Tweezers
        Cold Packs
        Warm Blankets
        Antibiotic ointment
        Thermometers
        Skin irritation creams
        Gloves
        Suture needles/string
        WATER!
        giant channel-lock pliers and crescent wrench
        vitamin c…scurvy

        • Thanks, BCOD, for all your hard work putting that list together.

          Here is your reward:

          A little old guy is walking around in a supermarket calling out “Crisco, Crisssss co o o o”!

          Soon an assistant manager approaches and says, “Sir, the Crisco is on aisle 3.”

          The old guy replies, “Oh, I’m not looking for the cooking stuff. I’m calling my wife. She’s in here somewhere.”

          The manager is astonished.

          “Your wife’s name is Crisco?”

          The old guy answers, “Oh no, no, no. I only call her that in public.”

          “I see”, said the manager,

          What do you call her at home?”

          “Lard Ass”.

          • LOL!! thanks, pog….another asset to shtfplan.

        • BCOD

          Well Done!

          Where’s the Abrahams Tank?

          Over the years I have made copies of articles that are, “What to do if”. Then put them in 3 ringed binders and labeled them by category. Kind of a quick references. Information will be an asset to have on hand.

          Yes, I have made a few copies of the beneficial comments here too. Never knew how much stuff you can accumulate. Hahaha!

          • thanks for being here slingshot!

            • and i like the 3 ring binder for what ifs….that got passed over earlier, but when i read it again, i realized how important it is!

        • May I add a few things from my inventory? Here goes. canned bean, dry beans, canned meat like ham, chicken, tuna, spam,etc. canned meals, bisquick, muffin mixes, splenda, corn meal, sweetened condensed milk, evaporated milk, cocoa, picante sauce, BBQ sauce, chocolate syrup, ketchup, mustard, tobasco, wheat germ, canned fruit, canned veggies, potatoes, gatorade powder, pastas, everything for a holiday dinner, herbs and spices, vinegar, salt, salt, salt, oatmeal, etc, syrup, honey! all different kinds of soups, baking soda, popcorn, dental floss, baby powder, soap of every kind, Q tips, peroxide, waterless cleaner, tin foil,Nyquil, cough drops, anti itch cream, betadine solution, burn kit, dental filling, mosquito spray, detergent, trash bags! purex, animal food and vitamins, batteries, hand can opener, percolator, duct tape, hand wheat grinder, heavy duty thread and needles, kerosine, jar lids, electrical tape, hand popcorn popper, solar lights, razor & blades, Zantac, ammodium AD, fungal cream, laxative, stool softner, lice treatment, diapers, depends, -50 sleeping bags.

          • thanks grammy!…now we’re on a ROLL!…while i’m thinkin’ of it….i got lots of beans and rice and macaroni….but it’s only gonna work if you got WATER to cook it…..so i got lots of canned chilli, soups fruit, tomatoes and tom. sause….stuff with water in it…and some stuff you won’t HAVE to heat to eat….just in case there’s nosy naybers that might want to invite theyseffs into “camp”!

          • oh, and don’t forget the IODIZED salt…hee hee!

      21. Many people seem to be concerned about the safety of their gold and it seems to be a problem and they do not know where to store it. With this company you can either take delivery of your gold or you can have it stored it the secure vaults and can get delivery any time you ask for it–I am taking delivery of the gold i have been buying—It comes to my home via Fed Ex — i have been buying 1 gram bars for about 60.00–65.00 as I can exchange them in these small sizes for goods and services if the need comes up. Also i guess it comes down to how much gold you have weather you want it all stored at your home or some of it stored else where.

        • Thats a total rip off. There are 28.34 grams in an ounce of gold. Gold is 1191 an ounce as of 4/23/15. That is $42.02 a gram.

          You are paying $65 a gram for a total of $1842 an ounce.

          That’s about $650 an ounce too much. You are getting screwed.

        • I would at least buy 1/20 of an ounce gold Maple Leafs for about $76 each or 1/10 of an ounce gold Maple Leafs for about $131 each. Gram bars don’t impress me. I wouldn’t know if they were real or not.

      22. 40 Acres forested land, nearest neighbor 1/4 mile(paid for)Sturdy log and concrete home(paid for)Off grid solar/diesel generator, well water, spring and garden.

        No debt, no loans = freedom to accomplish what most desire but won’t achieve.

        #1 step in prepping IMHO, get rid of debt first no matter what and no matter how hard it hurts because its what keeps you tied to the system like a slave.

        • Same here, the look on my bankers face was priceless when I pulled out. A highlight when I look aft. Done any EMP protection for your solar system?

      23. Is it just me or did anyone notice the OP tells us to get out of paper yet at the same time tells us (read this as an ADVERTISEMENT) to go into mining paper. That’s where the links go.

        WHAT???

        • Not totally absurd – “paper gold” instruments give you a proprietary interest in stored gold that may or may not exist. (By some accounts, they’ve sold twice or three times as much paper as they have gold in their vaults.)

          Stock in a mining company gives you equity in a mine, which clearly does exist. Risk is less, opportunity for outright fraud less. (Still not zero)

          • Also a risk of bankruptcy, mismanagement, nationalization.

      24. “You Can’t Trust Any Of These Currencies… Or The People Who Run Them”

        Aww, cmon! I’m sure we can all agree here that we can trust people like Obama crony Jon Corine, right???

        Oh, and I’m sure we will all really appreciate seeing eight years of Hillary’s lime green pants suits, that come right off at 1973 Barry Manilow dance floor.

        Now… of to my daily “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” chant in! See you there, comrades!

      25. So how can you trust any of these currencies? The reason I think the dollar has performed everything else is because of the fact that everything else is falling apart faster than America is falling apart. And that is why I think people are moving to American dollars.

        But eventually they will realize that the American dollar is way over priced today and they have to take their money elsewhere to protect it and get some yield.

        I think all of these currencies are extremely risky. I don’t believe in keeping any of my money in these fiat currencies.

        First of all, I always thought that was the end game. Don’t outrun the bear, outrun your buddy. He who is the least bad off wins.

        Second of all this won’t work

        If you assume hard assets are appreciating, then that means you have an economy. In which case fiat exists. There are too many people to do an economy as barter or PM’s.

        If you assume they are not appreciating you’re dead.

        Even assuming everyone else isn’t dying like flies around you (which they are), point of the matter is you’re dead and should be working on developing a firm riggor mortis.

        It’ll go you what? 5 years? 10 maximum?

      26. Much like any investment, I reckon it pays not to put all of your eggs in one basket. So we have food, PM’s, booze, lumber, salt, food, motor oil, nails, and other things.

        My last few preps/investments were 2 new in the box Savage .22 rifles, 2 Maverick 12 ga. shotguns, and 2 S&W Model 642 snub nose revolvers.

        My next investment/purchase might be 2 S&W 9mm pistols?

        Watch out fur them hogs, cause they’ll git ya!

        • Where you gonna find ammo for those .22’s?

          Stuff’s been so rare for over a year where I live that I’ve come to start thinking of it as an obsolete caliber, one that has occasional runs made for the collector market but no longer as a common consumer item (like the old .22 WRF, you see some on a gun store shelf occasionally when a run of it is done by Winchester every few years).

          • you mistake not being available with not as cheap as it used to be…22lr is readily available at gun shows for 50 to 70$ for a brick of 500….walmart often has it too, but you gotta BEAT the guys….errr BASTARDS…. to it that resell it at the gun show….ask them at the sporting goods desk when they put it out…..ask nicey nicey now, or they’ll just tell you we aint got it….turners here in town(victorville ca) has it OFTEN, but it’s not as cheap as walmart. dicks sporting goods just sold 1400 rd buckets for 70$ a week or two ago….it’s out there and getting a little more available as we go…BTW…saw a recall notice just yesterday where winchester loaded double powder in SOME 22lr….oh yeah, that was at walmart.

      27. and straight from bizarro world

        Jon Corzine Considers Launching Hedge Fund

        ht tp://www.wsj.com/articles/jon-corzine-considers-launching-hedge-fund-1429484718?mod=rss_markets_main

        just a heads up
        ya need to get in on this deal early

        LOL !!!!

        • Is he going long on the Zimbabwean Dollar this time?

      28. You gotta love the buttcrackofdoom list. As the SHTF EVENT HORIZON COMMENSES, we then we reach the Buttcrackofdoom. Thanks Buttcrack for posting that list. Then i suddenly realize, the very doom of things in on the horizon. Thats whay i luv about this website. As a prepper who intends to be in the 3-5 million survivors of the 230,000,000 gloablly in the rest of the world post SHTF. I suddenly realize that some things are still missing from my shtf list. This is why you have to have a team and group of preppers. With what i have learned, we need to make sure that we get doctors, and surgeons with medical equipment and supplies along with your group. Most of these doctors are not preppers who have no earthly idea what is about to happen. As we reach the engineered cablist bastards end game to wipe us out, and the buttcrackofdoom approaches, as we begin to complete our list of needed life saving items. As Jade Helm 15 commenses. We now reach the quickening, and what i like to refer and what my scientist calls the end game. As the “SHTF EVENT HORIZON” approaches. We really to need to complete such a list and get together with others like us, and prepare to run the hell out town asap. Good luck to the lazy stupid people who laughed at me, made fun of me, called me a conspiracy lunatic. You days are numbered. You are totally complelely screwed, good luck to you. You will be a victim of the maurading gangs of murderers, killers, thugs, dread locks, bottom feaders of society, soldiers, chinese russians, etc. Good luck to you, some of you will get killed, caputured abused, eaten, cooked. roated and seasoned, for food, etc. The SHTF EVENT HORIZON will commense and the un prepared will face the BUTTCRACKOFDOOM. We preppers on this site, congratulations, we will be the ones of 3-5 million suvivors.

        • sorry hout, my spidey-sense isn’t working right now, so i can’t tell if that was sarcasm, or cynicism….

      29. I don’t want to get caught holding on to any more US FRNotes than I have to come SHTF/currency reset.

        But I lead a cash only life, and must keep a reserve on hand.

        That’s why I am regularly watching craigslist and auctions for what certain items are selling for.

        Backhoe/Front Loader.
        UGLY old pickup that runs great.
        UGLY old VW that runs great.
        Older Harley.
        Older Kawasaki KLR650.
        Antique tools.
        etc.

        If/when the lights go out, nation or region wide, for more than a week, or the Euro DIES, I hope to be in the position to get the most VALUE out of the fiat shit I got stashed for a rainy day.

        The longer I wait, the less I will get.

        I collect stuff. Always have. I collect stuff that I like. Most of it would come in handy during/after SHTF/reset. Most of it will retain value IF I need to sell it before the balloon goes up.

        • very sage advice ben!!!

      30. Hey Buttcrack, its was sarcasm..Just trying to make a point in reference to your list of needed items, that we must have. I have admit, your list reminded me on a few extra items that i definalely neeeded, thanks for that list. This is what i am talking about, i learn from you guys also.

        I read your post all the time and eveything you say is on the money. Definately not cynism.

        • thanks hout…didn’t recognize your name, so my sarcasm detector was not working…i appologize!….and thanks for the support! good luck to you….we gonna NEED it!

      31. Thanks Buttcrack, we have to have humor sometimes. Now it unward to the SHTF EVENT HORIZON. From what i am told its sometime in September 2015. With Jad Helm 15, as they position assets, it may hit us alot sooner. Hopefully we are with the 3-5 million survivors when shtf comenses. And to my fellow preppers, you are more than welcome to use my new made up term “THE SHTF EVENT HORIZON”. I think of a better acronim that best describes what we are facing. I am uptimistic, that most of here on this site will survive it.

        • wish i shared your uptimism, hout. sometimes misspelling can be almost funny.

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