Collapse Survivor Explains Strategic Savagery: “You Have Two Choices – Fight To The Last or Run”

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    Editor’s Note: The following commentary comes to us from Selco of SHTF School, one of the preparedness community’s most well known authors – and for good reason. Selco survived the Balkan war of the 1990’s and described his experiences in his online course One Year In Hell.

    He has seen the worst that humanity has to offer and once again shares his thoughts on living in a world that has completely fallen apart. 

    If you want a first person perspective on what collapse looks like then keep reading.

    bosnia-sniper-alley(Pictured: “Snipers Alley” Bosnia, Balkan War, circa 1994)


    It looks like there is no sense and order in what ISIS folks are doing while they are terrorizing people and burning them alive, stone them to death, kill captured soldiers or simply women and kids. But spreading terror and pure fear makes lot of sense in terms of strategy, especially in already „chaotic“ times and territories where they are trying to advance.

    Terror is a psychological game.

    The “they are coming for me feeling”

    I have experienced for myself, more than once the feeling that „they are coming for me“. It is that moment when you are armed and ready, together with more folks, who are armed too and we are all waiting for attack.

    And guys who are attacking are famous for the fact that they do not take prisoners, or that they have few sick guys who are collecting ears from the captured people, while they are still alive.

    No matter how well you are armed and prepared and ready to fight, if you hear about their atrocities for weeks and then one evening you are forced to fight with them it will have impact on you.

    You will face stress of battle but also have to deal with your own fear.

    Of course different people react in different ways, so some guys will break down or give up even before fight, without single bullet flying through the air.

    Some guys will even surrender without fight and beg for mercy, even they listened stories about „no prisoners“ for weeks. Often they are the people who can not imagine how truly evil people act. They think because they would not kill and torture other people they do not know nobody would. It makes no sense, but it is what terror does and why it works. It makes people act without sense, makes them do stupid things, to be confused and not logical.

    Terror is advanced level of trash talk in sports where one opponent tries to make the other one angry that he loses focus. When it comes to terror it is just fear that is used as weapon.

    I have seen that sometimes only rumor about some infamous unit coming to attack is enough that groups who are very well organised simply fall apart.

    If you hear that there is unit coming and they will torture and kill everyone in their way including your kids and woman, you have two choices: To fight to the last or run.

    In the movies folks will fight to the last, but in reality most of the folks will simply run. The difference is like walking on edge of the sidewalk or walking on edge of a high building. In both cases you walk on edge but only in one case a wrong step has much worse consequences.

    Few times I asked myself why ISIS has so much success over there in Iraq and Syria. One of the answers is terror. Nothing spreads so fast like terror.

    I also think the idea you can have ultimate power over life and death of people makes many people want to join them. People get high on power and that they can decide who lives or dies. If this happens in group you usually find people trying to be more brutal than other people in their group. To be the most respected a feared one.

    You finally can rule over people, to judge, it does not have anything to do with religion, it is in human nature of some folks.

    Few months ago I read some US weapon forum and one of the members shows his rifle and said how he bought it cheaply and how it was probably used in Balkan war.

    On the rifle butt there was still small engraved sign of the unit visible. And strangely I knew that unit.
    Unit was famous in war because they (like many others) did lots of bad things, rape, kill prisoners and similar things like private prisons etc.

    But at the end most of them ended up dead, killed like the people they killed.

    Once when people realize that bullets can kill you no matter how famous or infamous you are it all gets easier.

    People dealt with them, and today they are just something like weird war memory with a sign on someones rifle butt. This is a lesson you need to keep in mind in situations when you face enemies that cause fear and terror in you.

    First you need to accept your fear and terror. Some people do not accept it and try to pretend its not there until it breaks out and makes them unable to function. Often in situations when it matters most.

    Be aware of your fear and terror but also confident in your abilities to face this enemy. This is attitude that you need to show openly also to all members of your group. In groups emotions always get amplified.

    Just like walking on edge of high building you focus on the task at hand, the walking or fighting and forget about consequences for that moment.

    Terror needs to be dealt with brute force, before it spreads way too much to be contained. It is like disease.
    You can get sick from terror, just like from pneumonia for example. Symptoms are fear,panic, doing illogical things, or having urge to run away before even you realize who is your enemy and how you can defeat it.

    This is why we prepare, practice and learn to focus on what matters to achieve our goals. Terror only works if you give it power.

    What do you make of ISIS and their actions? Please share your thoughts on this and how you try to deal with terror in community forum or comments below.


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      1. Very helpful and informative to read what someone who has been through SHTF situations has to say. Thanks, Selco.

        • Superb article!!

          Let’s try something untried. Let’s terrorize the Islamic terrorists. Suggestions?

          • Carpet bombing should do it .

            • Sometimes even Obama does the right thing.

              Obama Plays Hardball with Israel?
              By Mark H. Gaffney

              Finally. After many years of official hypocrisy, a US president appears to be playing hardball with Israel. The other day, the US government declassified a 1987 report documenting Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program.

              courthousenews.com/2015/02/12/nuc%20report.pdf

              I have been a critic of President Obama, but one has to admire the timing of the release which I suspect was ordered by the White House. Next month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to speak before Congress, at the behest of House speaker Boehner, and the topic of Netanyahu’s address reportedly will be Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program. The fact that neither Speaker Boehner nor the Israeli government first cleared the speech with the White House has become controversial, and for good reason. Several prominent members of Congress, among them Senator Leahy, have already indicated they will boycott the speech, which will be a transparent attempt at an end run around the president.

              Israeli PM Netanyahu is a smooth talker, but he is in no position to lecture Iran or any other state about nuclear weapons. The just-declassified report shows up Netanyahu for what he is, a liar.

              All sixteen US intelligence agencies agree there is no hard evidence that Iran is attempting to develop nuclear weapons. As a signatory of the nuclear non proliferation treaty, Iran’s nuclear power program is fully safeguarded by IAEA inspections. Israel by contrast is a rogue state that secretly developed nukes while thumbing its nose at the world. Israel has long refused to sign the NPT.

              The declassified 1987 report indicates that from the 1980s on the US was well-informed about Israel’s hidden nuclear agenda. Israel’s nuke program is evidently a carbon copy of the US program.

              We know that Israel smuggled nuclear technology (triggers, known as krytrons) out of the US, highjacked a ship on the high seas loaded with uranium ore, deceived US inspectors, and much more, all the while lying about its true intentions.

              It also appears that Israel provided the IAEA with phony documents about Iran’s nuclear program.
              http://www.iranreview.org/content/Documents/Israel-Provided-IAEA-with-Fake-Documents-on-Iran-s-Nuclear-Program.htm

              Timing is everything in politics. With the report now public, Obama will be in a stronger position to apply pressure on Israel to sign the NPT and open its nuclear sites to IAEA inspectors; or face the prospect of losing US economic and military aid. Why? Because a US law (the Symington amendment of the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act) bars the US from giving aid to nations that engage in clandestine nuclear weapons proliferation. For many years, the US chose to ignore the law. But now that Netanyahu plainly intends to stir up trouble for Obama in Congress over Iran, the president has apparently decided to take off the kid gloves. If Obama follows through, and I hope he does, it will the smartest policy move of his presidency. The president deserves all the support that we the people can give him on this issue.

              The timing of the 1987 report was no coincidence either. No doubt it was occasioned by a three-page expose that appeared in the London Sunday Times in 1986, based on evidence provided by an Israeli whistleblower named Mordechai Vanunu. The stunning Times expose featured inside photos and details about Israel’s top-secret plutonium separation plant buried 80 feet below the Negev desert. For years, Israel had claimed that its Dimona nuclear plant was peacefully generating electricity. But Vanunu showed this was a deception.

              For his courage Vanunu suffered a fate worse than death. Kidnapped by Israeli agents, he was taken back to Israel in chains and convicted of treason in a kangaroo court. The man of conscience spent 18 years in Ashkelon prison, 11 of them in solitary confinement, during which time he endured terrible abuse by his Israeli handlers. Though Vanunu was released in 2004, he remains under house arrest in Israel to this day; a shocking example of double jeopardy.

              I want to personally thank Mordechai Vanunu for the incredible courage he has shown over many years, which now finally appears on the verge of bearing positive fruit. Never doubt that one brave man can change the world. Vanunu did. He will be remembered for his strength in the service of truth, while Netanyahu may well become notorious as the dissembler who destroyed Israel’s credibility.

              Mark H. Gaffney is the author of Dimona: the Third Temple (1989), a pioneering study of Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

              • Hey Zuk,

                What’s up with the Waffen-SS haircut???

              • John Q. Public, nice post, very accurate. However, you over look the fact of why Commander Banana pants is doing this for his masters. They need to take Syria before they can take Iran. Then they can place our interbalistic missles in Russia/China range. His masters want the jews and muslems to keep fighting with each other (and the world)so they are busy killing each other (less numbers) and too distracted to notice the sick crap we are doing to them. The world will pay attention to what the world is broadcasting and not notice what we are doing to benifit. ALWAYS remember it’s always a magic trick. No one (most anyway) ever notices the hand doing the magic trick. People only look at the rabbit in the hat…And down the rabbit hole we go…

                • Very good perspective.

                  Its the slight of hand…aka Misdirection.

                  “Hey look over here” and WHAM! Right in the economic fuzzy nuggets.

              • Hey, America is also being targeted for destruction by Iran.

                Plenty of Youtube videos of Muslims talking about the Destruction of America, Israel, and the spread of Islam.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhl_GQtdfo8

              • ‘John Q.’ with yet ANOTHER distracting, long, divisive post at the top of the comments section.
                Hell, he even posts it TWICE.
                Get ’em arguing- its a tried and true method brought to you by the boys @ Operation Mindfuck…

                gotta love it

                • Mistakes happen. My profound apology.

                  • Mistakes like YOU bitch!

                    • Are you the sayan assigned to me this week?

                    • For your LIFETIME bitch!

              • Looks like after the Rapture…you’ll get alot more thumbs up…

            • Sometimes even Obama does the right thing.

              Obama Plays Hardball with Israel?

              By Mark H. Gaffney

              Finally. After many years of official hypocrisy, a US president appears to be playing hardball with Israel. The other day, the US government declassified a 1987 report documenting Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program. courthousenews.com/2015/02/12/nuc%20report.pdf

              I have been a critic of President Obama, but one has to admire the timing of the release which I suspect was ordered by the White House. Next month, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to speak before Congress, at the behest of House speaker Boehner, and the topic of Netanyahu’s address reportedly will be Iran’s alleged nuclear weapons program. The fact that neither Speaker Boehner nor the Israeli government first cleared the speech with the White House has become controversial, and for good reason. Several prominent members of Congress, among them Senator Leahy, have already indicated they will boycott the speech, which will be a transparent attempt at an end run around the president.

              Israeli PM Netanyahu is a smooth talker, but he is in no position to lecture Iran or any other state about nuclear weapons. The just-declassified report shows up Netanyahu for what he is, a liar.

              All sixteen US intelligence agencies agree there is no hard evidence that Iran is attempting to develop nuclear weapons. As a signatory of the nuclear non proliferation treaty, Iran’s nuclear power program is fully safeguarded by IAEA inspections. Israel by contrast is a rogue state that secretly developed nukes while thumbing its nose at the world. Israel has long refused to sign the NPT.

              The declassified 1987 report indicates that from the 1980s on the US was well-informed about Israel’s hidden nuclear agenda. Israel’s nuke program is evidently a carbon copy of the US program.

              We know that Israel smuggled nuclear technology (triggers, known as krytrons) out of the US, highjacked a ship on the high seas loaded with uranium ore, deceived US inspectors, and much more, all the while lying about its true intentions.

              It also appears that Israel provided the IAEA with phony documents about Iran’s nuclear program.
              iranreview.org/content/Documents/Israel-Provided-IAEA-with-Fake-Documents-on-Iran-s-Nuclear-Program.htm

              Timing is everything in politics. With the report now public, Obama will be in a stronger position to apply pressure on Israel to sign the NPT and open its nuclear sites to IAEA inspectors; or face the prospect of losing US economic and military aid. Why? Because a US law (the Symington amendment of the 1961 Foreign Assistance Act) bars the US from giving aid to nations that engage in clandestine nuclear weapons proliferation. For many years, the US chose to ignore the law. But now that Netanyahu plainly intends to stir up trouble for Obama in Congress over Iran, the president has apparently decided to take off the kid gloves. If Obama follows through, and I hope he does, it will the smartest policy move of his presidency. The president deserves all the support that we the people can give him on this issue.

              The timing of the 1987 report was no coincidence either. No doubt it was occasioned by a three-page expose that appeared in the London Sunday Times in 1986, based on evidence provided by an Israeli whistleblower named Mordechai Vanunu. The stunning Times expose featured inside photos and details about Israel’s top-secret plutonium separation plant buried 80 feet below the Negev desert. For years, Israel had claimed that its Dimona nuclear plant was peacefully generating electricity. But Vanunu showed this was a deception.

              For his courage Vanunu suffered a fate worse than death. Kidnapped by Israeli agents, he was taken back to Israel in chains and convicted of treason in a kangaroo court. The man of conscience spent 18 years in Ashkelon prison, 11 of them in solitary confinement, during which time he endured terrible abuse by his Israeli handlers. Though Vanunu was released in 2004, he remains under house arrest in Israel to this day; a shocking example of double jeopardy.

              I want to personally thank Mordechai Vanunu for the incredible courage he has shown over many years, which now finally appears on the verge of bearing positive fruit. Never doubt that one brave man can change the world. Vanunu did. He will be remembered for his strength in the service of truth, while Netanyahu may well become notorious as the dissembler who destroyed Israel’s credibility.

              Mark H. Gaffney is the author of Dimona: the Third Temple (1989), a pioneering study of Israel’s nuclear weapons program.

              • JQP…you just pissed off many dual citizens and their sympathizers by your post. Thank You.

                • Isn’t it nice to know that you and organizations like Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Al Qaeda and Hitler are all on the same page?

                  What’s that saying about birds of a feather?

                  • anonymous2….actually F…. all of the names you listed in your post. The sad part is you and your tribe always use labels against anyone posting the truth.

                    How is the weather in Tel Aviv btw? Are you folks getting paid well to be trolls? if not don’t worry…AIPAC will screw the American taxpayers for your salary increase.

                    • The truth is….you and folks like you have the same opinion of the Jews as Hitler.

                      Where do you want to set up the first death camps by the way? Got the cattle cars ready?

                    • Oh…and I’m not Jewish and I don’t live in Tel Aviv.

                      But I bet you’d have felt right at home in Berlin circa 1940.

                    • What’s your “final solution” going to be this time?

                  • The world’s people are sick and tired of the lies, deceit, false flags, racism, genocide and theft by IsraHell and its supporters….did I mention the constant redirection of the TRUTH and whining? The so-called “Jews” ARE NOT Semite nor of the seed of Abraham (not that ridiculous stories count) and the Holo-hoax has been scientifically proven to have been IMPOSSIBLE! So, these filth lied about their right to reside in the home of Palestinians (who are Semite), lied about the 6 MILLION, hid the fact that THEY are the filth behind Communism, the Bolshevik Revolution and organized crime, aka, Mafia! Hitler DID NOT commence the War…the Jews did and the Zionists were in bed with Hitler and sacrificed orthodox “Jews” to better argue for a homeland. It’s NO COINCIDENCE the “Jews” have been run out of more than 100 locales, it;s their filthy, aberrant behavior and NOT a conspiracy of “anti-Semitism”! There’s a very clear “cause and effect” at work and Israel is the TERROR STATE of the world and needs to be wiped from the planet! You love these filth so much? Go live in Israel and take part in the world’s “FINAL SOLUTION” you pig!

                    • Oh yeah there jack Hamilton, I’m SURE folks will ALWAYS believe a real live spittle flying lunatic like yourself. How much time do they allot to you in the ” hospital” for computer use every day?

              • John Q. Public,

                Exodus 19:5-6

                Now therefore, if you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. These are the words that you shall speak to the people of Israel.”

                • Please Swinging:

                  Go back through your KJV Bible. Look up all the blessings God promised ‘Israel’ and then convince yourself He promised ALL those blessings to the people/land called Israel today.

                  You know He does not/cannot lie, Swinging. So are all those promises made to Israel yet to happen to that little piece of real estate or have they already happened to the country you live in?

                  • Pissed Off Granny,

                    You make an interesting point however certain references in the KJV do refer to the terrain and placement of Israel. Who knows for certain, but there is no doubt that the whole world is in turmoil and our country is being desecrated by those in charge, who are at the beckon call of the devil, of this I am certain.

                    Zechariah Chapter 14
                    1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

                    2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

                    3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

                    4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

                    5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, [and] all the saints with thee.

                    6 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the light shall not be clear, [nor] dark:

                    7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light.

                    8 And it shall be in that day, [that] living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

                    9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

                    10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.

                    11 And [men] shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

                    12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

                    • The blessings were conditional. Obedience was to be rewarded. Disobedience was to be punished.

                      Remember God’s judgments?

                      abplefebvreforums.proboards.com/thread/3726/gods-judgments-old-testament

                      abplefebvreforums.proboards.com/thread/3701/jesus-apostles-saints-doctors-popes

                    • Also, you confuse the true Israel of today (the Church) with the synagogue of Satan.

                    • So much for John Q. Public’s false doctrine…

                      http://www.gotquestions.org/Israel-church.html

                      The replacement theology is nothing new and has been used as an excuse for everything from pogroms to holocaust.

                      New little Hitlers springing up all over it seems.

                    • @ anonymous2

                      The Bible says the Mosaic Covenant/Law has been REPLACED, “MADE VOID,” “BLOTTED OUT,” “SET ASIDE,” “TAKEN AWAY,” “ANNULLED/CANCELED.”

                      Hebrews 7:18
                      Hebrews 10:9
                      Colossians 2:14
                      Jeremias 31:31-32
                      Hebrews 8:5-13
                      Mark 7:7-9

                      What part of REPLACED, MADE VOID, BLOTTED OUT, SET ASIDE, TAKEN AWAY, ANNULLED/CANCELED. don’t you understand?

                      Get the memo. Mac is tired of us having to repeat ourselves.

                    • Hey John Q pubic, shove your bible between your legs. Get THAT memo bitch.

                    • @John Q. Public

                      You missed one….

                      For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

                      Matt. 5:18

                      Unless I’m mistaken, heaven and earth have not passed away.

                      The Law is a reflection of the character of God. It is unchanging.

                    • Here’s another one.

                      Luke 16:17 However, it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one stroke of a letter in the Law to be dropped.

                    • @ anonymous2

                      To pretend that the Mosaic Law was not replaced would make God a fool. If the Mosaic Law could save, if Mosaic Law could open the gates of Heaven, there would have been no reason for the Incarnation, Ministry, Passion, Crucifixion, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. There would have been no need for the New Covenant. All Jesus’ suffering would be unnecessary, meaningless, a complete waste—and that is NOT the case.

                      Try to understand the time line.

                      WHEN HE WAS ALIVE:

                      After describing the Beatitudes on the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said “So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For amen I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot, or one tittle shall not pass of the law, till all be fulfilled. He therefore that shall break one of these least commandments, and shall so teach men, shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, that unless your justice abound more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Matthew 5:16

                      AS HE DIED:

                      “Jesus therefore, when he had taken the vinegar, said: It is consummated. And bowing his head, he gave up the ghost.”

                      AFTER HE DIED:

                      “REPLACED,” “MADE VOID,” “BLOTTED OUT,” “SET ASIDE,” “TAKEN AWAY,” “ANNULLED/CANCELED.”

                      Hebrews 7:18
                      Hebrews 10:9
                      Colossians 2:14
                      Jeremias 31:31-32
                      Hebrews 8:5-13
                      Mark 7:7-9

                      Indeed, the Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes remain and will remain until the End of the World, but the moment that Jesus on His Cross fulfilled all the figures and prophecies; and perfected all that was imperfect, the Temple veil was torn and the imperfect Mosaic law and the manmade traditions of the Pharisees were “REPLACED,” “MADE VOID,” “BLOTTED OUT,” “SET ASIDE,” “TAKEN AWAY,” “ANNULLED/CANCELED.”

                      Your Dual Covenant heresy mocks God.

                    • @ anonymous2

                      If the Mosaic Law could save the Pharisees or their followers today, why would Jesus judge these things?

                      axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
                      cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
                      condemned Mark 16:16
                      cut down Matthew 3:10
                      in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
                      judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
                      shall be broken Matthew 21:44
                      shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
                      the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
                      woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
                      wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
                      your house shall be left desolate Matthew 23:38
                      you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13

                    • Guess I missed that heaven and earth passing away event.

                    • No, you didn’t miss “heaven and earth passing away.” You just missed reading the whole sentence of Matthew 5:16. One of these days you need to actually read the entire New Testament.

                      Like most “Synagogue first, Jesus last” Zionists and dispensationalists, you seize on a single phrase. Without understanding the entire sentence and chapter, you invert the meaning.

                      No “jot or tittle” passed away until Jesus’ “it is consummated” on the Cross, then Mosaic Law was REPLACED, MADE VOID, BLOTTED OUT, SET ASIDE, TAKEN AWAY, ANNULLED, CANCELED. The Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes are the law that will not pass away until the End—AND unrepentant Pharisees will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

                      Your snarky Double Covenant heresy mocks God, His Incarnation, Ministry, Passion, Crucifixion, and Resurrection—and He will mock you with His Second Coming.

                    • @ anonymous2

                      No, you didn’t miss “heaven and earth passing away.” You just missed reading the whole sentence of Matthew 5:16. One of these days you need to actually read the entire New Testament.

                      Like most “Synagogue first, Jesus last” Zionists and dispensationalists, you seize on a single phrase. Without understanding the entire sentence and chapter, you invert the meaning.

                      No “jot or tittle” passed away until Jesus’ “it is consummated” on the Cross, then Mosaic Law was REPLACED, MADE VOID, BLOTTED OUT, SET ASIDE, TAKEN AWAY, ANNULLED, CANCELED. The Ten Commandments and the Beatitudes are the law that will not pass away until the End—AND unrepentant Pharisees will not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

                      Your snarky Double Covenant heresy mocks God, His Incarnation, Ministry, Passion, Crucifixion, and Resurrection—and He will mock you with His Second Coming.

                    • Hey johnny q pubic, I told you to shove your bible between your legs didn’t I? Now get to it you little bitch face!

                  • Hey granny israel in biblical times was jacobs seed(descendents) not a palestinian country occupied by khazars..The bible also says his people would be taken out of that walled city never to return..jacobs seed had to be adamic people, so why dont youmget your strongs concordance and your kjv bible and see if you can find out who the adamic people are…By the way that queen james version bible is not a very good translation..They threw out the apocrypha, added scriptures, and has over 20,000 translation errors in it, not to mention king james was a flaming sodomite…

                    • @Quantrill….

                      “The bible also says his people would be taken out of that walled city never to return”

                      Wrong. Unless you think the book of Revelation should not be in the Bible.

                      There are other verses in both the Old and New Testaments as well indicating that the Jews will be in Israel in the last days.

                  • Pissed off Granny..The people that calls themselves JEWS in the so called Land of isreal ARE NOT TRUE JEWS.THE ARE EDOMITES.

                  • GOD’S blessings are eternal. Otherwise, HE could not be GOD! But, there is a difference between Israel the nation of today and spiritual Israel who has been “set apart” for GOD’s purposes. Also, do not forget that there are not just blessings… but curses as well for those that enter covenant with the Almighty GOD and then break that covenant. It is all playing out right before us!

                  • (RANT ON)

                    I don’t know much about the Bible, because no matter how many times I read it, I can never fully understand it all. I think Jesus spoke in parables for a reason, to allow us freedom of choice based on our interpretations. The problem is, we get into violent, divisive arguments over something that was NEVER really meant to be clear to start with.

                    But I do know ONE THING for sure.

                    I can state unequivocally that at the heart of EVERY EVIL perpetrated in this world, there is but ONE ROOT CAUSE:

                    A LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE LIFE OF OTHER THINGS.

                    I defy anyone to name one evil act that would still happen, if a respect for life had been recognized and observed. Name any evil you like:

                    Murder.
                    Slavery.
                    War.
                    Torture.
                    Oppression.
                    Crime.
                    Genocide.
                    Democide.
                    Eugenics.
                    Corruption.
                    Greed.
                    Hatred.
                    Jealousy.
                    Animal abuse.
                    Abuse of our planet…

                    The list is long, and yet in every case, it couldn’t have happened, had there been respect for the life of the human, the animal or the earth, by the perpetrator.

                    Religion is being used as an efficient tool to divide us. We’re spending way too much time quoting and arguing over bible texts that have never been universally clear.

                    SEMANTICS rule the day in these arguments and ‘semantics’ are just another method of lying, a way of rewording something to make it sound more palatable. Deception. A LIE.

                    I can have faith in My Personal God, without quibbling over the meanings of bible verses. I don’t need to turn to God to understand the need to have respect for life….ALL LIFE, AT ALL TIMES. God lets me answer my own questions.

                    We can see how this application works out in real time, in EVERY confrontational situation.

                    NOT ONLY HAVE WE BECOME A BUNCH OF MONKEYS WHO SHIT IN THEIR OWN BEDS, BUT WE THEN HAVE TO ARGUE OVER WHO SHAT, WHY THEY SHITTED AND WHAT THE MEANING OF ‘SHIT’ REALLY IS. Then we have to argue about whose job it is to clean it up and who should pay for it. Nobody ever wants to take responsibility for their own shit.

                    For fuck’s sake people, THINK for a minute. PLEASE.

                    (RANT OFF)

                    • @ sixpack

                      If Jesus intended for people to have mutually exclusive doctrines and that holding opposite dogmas and subjective morality still saved, why would He emphasize the fewness of the saved, the “narrow gate”?

                      Why would He spend so much time telling the Pharisees that voiding the commandments of God with their man-made opinions would send them to Hell?

                • And what about that big, if, in that statement?

                • Too bad the people we all news today arent the people oc Exodus. Read Revelations 2:9 and 3:9. Also 2nd John. Remember what Jesus told them in John 8:44. That they were of their father Satan. Also there are many verses in the bible that tell how to reconize TRUE Israel and NONE OF THEM point to the people called jews.

              • Here’s only one link—you truly can find just about anything on the internet, including hypocrisy and bigotry:

                ht tps://www.stormfront.org/posterity/race/proof.html

                But finding someone who published an opinion, does not make that opinion right or wrong. Read some of the old eugenicist publications from the 17-1800’s. Many thought it was established fact at the time, even published in medical journals.

                You’d be shocked at how similar they sound to some people today.

                • It’s simply amazing that you can take something absolutely ridiculous, and make it sound perfectly logical—through SEMANTICS.

            • Declare war on saudi, iran and anyone else who supports ISIS including U.S. commies and their allies.

              • it’s a tad more complicated than that
                see the article I posted from Zero Hedge
                some of our allies funded the formation of ISIS !!!
                just like we funded the formation of AlQaeda !!!

                WTF ???

                and attack Saudi and Iran ?
                and take app 14 milion barrels a day of oil production off line ?

                gee
                I wonder what will happen to the world’s economy ???

            • WTH did we spend all that money on DRONES for?….GIT BIZZY, obammy, and DO YER FOCKEN JOB!!!!

              • i hope your president start bombing americans with the drones.

            • Pork. Every body of dead terrorist gets bacon or sausage stuffed inside. You have to fight crazy with crazy and they don’t care about death, but the idea of being unclean by virtue of the pork terrorizes them.

              • IGGZACTLY !!

                It’s like a bucket of water to the “Wicked Witch of the West”, only BETTER !!!

                Anything to piss off Ovomit !

                Our military ought to be able to do their job without micromanaging by bureaucrats.

                Just kill the goat fookers.

              • No Bob. Somewhere, you just have to say enough is enough and say NO to the hatred. Hatred begets more hatred and hateful acts gets returned tenfold. The cycle needs to end, not by turning the other cheek, but by making it so not worth their time.

            • Carpet Bombing? Yeah those Muslim Weddings sure are a threat to the US eh? At least half of the comments here in this article are from ignorant f*cks.

            • I agree: the Japanese in WWII fought a formidable war against the allies, island by island. The Japanese only rarely were captured alive and most fought to the death. They were fanatical in their devotion to the Emperor. ISIS can compare to them as an enemy. Fanatical, embracing death where we embrace life, batsh#t crazy, willing to do any number of atrocities, and showing no mercy or decency to the enemy.

              When you face a foe such as this, you must completely obliterate them from the face of earth. Trying to find them jobs at McDonalds just will not do (the government’s proposal the other day).

              We are still many; they are still few. We still have the numbers advantage. We need to use that. All animals fear one thing the most: fire. And fire is a very effective way to destroy and breakdown a brutal enemy such as ISIS. Just as was done in WWII, where flamethrowers were used to ‘cook-out’ Japanese soldiers from their hiding places, we need to start firebombing ISIS. The image of them seeing their fellow fighters running around on fire will be harrowing and demoralizing. The most cost-effective weapon to start would be napalm. For closer fighting, use the flamethrowers.

          • We know that terror works.
            Our government has been keeping it’s citizens in check
            by using it now for decades.

            • OutWest, when they come for me, I’ve got something or them they DON’T want.

              • That should’ve read FOR them. Typing too fast again.

            • OutWest I tend to somewhat disagree, that very well may be coming, but like the old saying “The Carrot And The Stick” I still feel like for the most part, we are still in the carrot phase. Trekker Out.

              • I agree with you somewhat Trek.
                But at what depth of penetration can sex
                be defined as intercourse?
                Just a matter of semantics.

                • Don’t know OutWest, as Ass’ed Itch would say “I’m an old man”. Guess you’ll have to ask somebody younger. Trekker Out.

                  • Mountain Trekker, don’t worry about that punk boy of mine. All he does is play video games and dreams of exotic woman that he will never encounter in real life. The boy isn’t right in the head, the blame falls on his mothers side of the gene pool. He’s a grown ass adult man with a mentality of a 12 year old.

                    I apologize for his behavior, I’ve offered all the help that I can for him, but he refuses to grow up. Beatings only fuel his defiance against me, but grounding him from his bike and video game console seems to still work in my favor.

                    No need to worry, his day will come. The “Game of Life” will show it’s ugly face soon upon him, and hopefully his mother won’t coddle him when he gets scared.

                    • Are you sure you’re not talking about braveheart there dad?

                • According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Article 120-Rape and Carnal Knowledge, (2), (c) Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete either of these offenses.
                  Just sayin’.

            • The Main Reason We have Terrorism to day is because Ronald Reagan paid off the Iranian Terrorist to release the 52 US Hostages. The Day Reagan was inaugurated in Jan 1981, Reagan release back to Iran like $5 Billion in Frozen Iranian assets here in the US. Thus the Hostages were released and that was the Birth of Terrorism today as we know Terrorism, and that told the world America will pay off handsomely if they attack us. Ron Raygun was the worst of the worst.

              • Funding terrorist organizations, because they’re attacking somebody we don’t like (at the moment) does wonders to encourage terrorism too. Terrorists should NEVER be funded and/or armed in any capacity, no matter who their beef is with (today).

                It’s the same principle as with TBTF banks—pay the banks to steal our money, and the banksters will be happy to accommodate us…frequently.

          • my question is do any of you idiots know who created isis, or who is backing isis or who is profiting from isis

            • The same people you pay taxes to

              • I can Not Believe You are Oping Your self up to danger’s Like You Have Known Before to trust Obama BIBI is Fighting for the lives of Our Future If God Supports Israel then We Do Too! God Bless ISRAEL & USA protect us from the Evil that surround us Wake Way UP!

            • Eat shit, bulldog

              • LMFAO

            • There is only one Bulldog and you aint it!!!

              • and yes we do know who created and funded isis. Will it matter when they come saw your head off puppydog.

            • It’s possible the West had a hand in their creation. But they have their own agenda. Recreating the Caliphate world wide.

              • I know most here don’t put much credit in the main stream media, but a recent article by Peter Bergman on CNN spelled it out.

                Ever wonder why ISIS doesn’t try to hide their atrocities like the SS did in WW2? Or the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot. List goes on…

                ISIS has an end time theology and it can not come about until the world is in chaos. They take seriously the direction to cause this chaos and are more than proud to bring it about. Then comes the 12th Imam (& Isa, Jesus, his prophet) and the world wide Caliphate.

                We are fighting against their eschatology. ISIS wants us to see their brutality. They want us to come after them. They want the chaos.

                When Iran gets the bomb, the chaos will come and make ISIS look small in comparison.

            • Karl, Dad is talking about acid/eisnkreuz, not me. Sorry to disappoint you. [I’m sarcastic today.]

              • Don’t think so braveheart, when he said 12 year old he nailed your emotional state right on the money.

          • FreeSlave –

            Why would anyone want to terrorize Islamic Terrorists?
            You want us to fight an outfit that has been bought an paid
            for and fully funded by US/Israeli Tax Payers?

            If these so called Terrorist want to hurt America so bad, why then haven’t they attacked our buddies Israel? Seems they should start there before any kind of threat would come to our shores.

            You want to fight Terrorist? So do I and others, but they are here on US soil, most notable in that 10 mile radius called Washington D.C. – chuck full of terrorist there. Then we have 50 States in this Nation, each one having a Capitol. Guess what? Yep, you guessed right – more god damned Terrorist.

            This country needs to take care of itself first, second, and third before even attempting to help another Nation, and it starts with “We The People”. It has been beyond time to clean house across the US, fuck Democracy – restore the Republic!

            Your moniker is confusing – how is one to be a “free Slave”?
            There is no such thing, unless that is what one chooses to be.
            A slave is still a slave, free or not.

            • Enemies domestic

            • Tony Montana:

              Very insightful of you Tony.

              • Thanks POG –

                I’m not sure if it’s insightful, but what I do know is that any Nation that resorts to violence into another Sovereign Nation for no reason at all – creates enemies.

                Terrorist Organizations Names means absolutely nothing. We all know who and what developed and funded these outfits. The gig is up and many are waking up to the fact that the “war on terror” is nothing but pure fabrication and piss poor entertainment at the cost of others lives.

                PRS – problem – reaction – solution

                Everybody should know how this old, but effective system works. This tactic will always be used, until the day we the people have something to do about it. Tyranny will always exist, unless we the people have something to do about it.
                The Global Elite will always Rule the planet, unless ALL the people across the planet expose, eradicate, and make examples out of them – just in case some other group has any sinister ideas.

            • George Washington on the subject of foreign entanglements and the dangers of political parties.

              https:// thehistoricpresent.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/washingtons-farewell-address-avoiding-foreign-entanglements/

              The worlds government consist mostly of Socialist and tyrants. It is time to remove our presents and treasure from the rest of the world and focus on our concerns. If we should decide to deal with foreign governments after the reset.,it should be Republics who adopt democratic principles and are our friends.

              Live Free or Die…foreign aid is just a bribe
              Talon1776

              • Mostly agree here. As long as nukes are off the table, I say we get the phuck out of the middle east. Let them eat each other. If you are Christian and scared of where you live, get the phuck out. Come to the US, we Christians over here need all the help we can get. Phuck the Mooslims!
                If it truly appears that an organization like ISIS or BOKO may be able to deal with nukes, that would be a different story.
                On a side note, we are borrowing/printing $27,000/sec as a nation right now. Please pass that on to anyone who will listen. This is insane and there is no end in sight until this shit drives into a ditch. Blood will be the only thing that stops the borrowing. No voting (either side) will have any impact on anything at this point.

                • Yeah, those doggone Muslim banksters, pornographers, and ACLU lawyers. Always suing to remove crosses and lobbying to promote sodomy, controlling the media.

                  Too many Muslims on the Supreme Court too! Too many Muslims invited to address the US Congr…. er… Knesset. Too many of those Muslim politicians attacking the Second Amendment.

                  And we need to get those Muslims out of Hollywood, all that filth they produce for profit.

                  Yeah, those Muslims really are ruining this “Christian” country.

                  • Hey pubic, when it’s your time to meet God, and that can’t be soon enough for sure, are you going to be buried in your SS uniform?

                • ALL genocidal Master Race creeds should be condemned and opposed (Naziism AND Judaism), but that is no excuse for lying history and bad math.

                  • So I guess that means you will be, right bitch?

            • Operation paperclip brought back enough terrorists back to the U.S. pentagon so they could continue their globalist one world order agenda…aka the 4th reich.

            • Non-interventionism is the best policy, I agree.

              I also agree with your skepticism about these terrorists really wanting to hurt the U.S. so bad. I’m supposed to believe that thousands of dedicated jihadists with plenty of weapons and funding can’t manage to attack the U.S. directly.

              As a thought exercise play enemy commander. I give you 10 committed jihadists and $1 million; how much damage could you do to the U.S.?

              Seriously imagine how easy it is to have a two man team with an rpg shoot a commercial airliner 100ft after takeoff. Have you ever looked at how many US airports this is relatively simple? Shoot two down and imagine the impact on the economy.

              Or just send a 4 man team with AKs into the mall, shoot everyone for 3 minutes or so, then maybe leave and repeat. Or how about shooting up a few walmarts instead?

              Really get everyone’s attention by killing everyone at a few daycare centers. How many people stop going to work if they’re worried their kid will be killed tomorrow at school?

              Look at how much chaos the DC snipers caused for so little money and training.

              You really expect me to believe that all those ISIS terrorists can’t manage any kind of an attack on the US? Not a single one can pretend to be a US grad student and just fly here? Didn’t many recruits leave European countries to go to the middle east and fight? Yet not one of them can commit even simple arson in Europe or the US?

              There are just too many ways that I could cause huge economic harm and destruction if I had even a small fraction of ISIS at my disposal. I don’t believe the government’s story here at all.

              • Rebel ,
                You have won the Internet today ,
                A few old mosins couple of crates of 7.62 Russian is all it would take , the reaction by the progressives would be predictable , next thing you know complete unrest and collapse , it could happen fast with little warning , I am fully aware that the dear leader would use this to maximum advantage and would utilize the useful idiots of the free shit army (FSA) to achieve the objective of disarmament of the civilian population further stoking the violence till it reaches critical mass , THEN NOTHING WILL STOP IT UNTIL ITS OVER, this is the dooms day scenario , no nukes , foreign army required , a collectivists wet dream .
                In the end it will be collectivists vs individualists
                There will be only the living and the dead . Until only one remains .

                Prepare , train while you still can , THINK , PLAN , FORM TEAMS ,
                Each day we have before the shooting starts is an additional day to prepare and sharpen our skills . Use the time wisely . Be counted among the survivors .

                Semper Fi

                • Thank you. BTW I have “stolen” your term for the FSA and use it regularly at work. It really is descriptive of their mindset and the overwhelming majority of medicaid recipients have it.

                  I give copies of “The Law” by Bastiat, Joel Salatin books, or “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand to my coworkers for Christmas every year. Most are starting to use the term FSA, one got chickens, several got new pistols, and none will ever look at the FSA in the same light again.

              • Very good points: it also begs the question: who is really running ISIS? They are clearly fanatical and willing to die for their cause. Yet, they seem to lack the will and intelligence to carry out any attacks in the US. That does not compute. As you point out, the mayhem they could do with just a little bit of investment and a strong will to do what it takes, is immense. So why don’t they do it if they hate the West so much? When you think about it, it does not make any sense. The British have openly admitted they let terrorists board flights and travel back and forth to the war zones. We are less dealing with a classic terrorist threat and more with a group of individuals being ‘run’ by various secret agencies for various geopolitical ends.

            • Tony Montana

              To be free is to be saved from eternal damnation by accepting Christ as LORD and savior.

              You are then His slave as the Greek in the Bible should be translated (Strong’s [#1401 a slave])

              I too am a free slave, by choice.

              • IDK..to me slave has a negative connotation and is usually against your own will. I am a servant and glad of the opportunity to serve! 🙂

          • Come on FreeSlave,
            You’re fighting the symptom not the cause. Another Pavlovian response to a problem that has been set before you like a four course meal. Come on Player, be smarter!!

            • Selco fought the symptom.

          • Inject the lunatics with pigs blood, that will put the fear of Allah in them!

          • FreeSlave Ur Stupid comment. The US already has been invading and terrorizing the Muslim populations since 1980. That is why we get attacked in retaliation. Try researching History some time, and beyond just your Cult News letter talking points.

            • Musloids have been invading and terrorizing everybody around them since A.D. 632. That’s over 1149 years before there even WAS a United States.

              They can’t help themselves, it’s in their (*spit*) “holy” (*spit*) book.

              You don’t fight cancer with kind words, jobs programs and welfare. Radiation works, though.

              • “On September 30, 1985 four Soviet diplomats were kidnapped and Arkady Katkov was shot in the head by Hezbollah’s head of security, Imad Mughniyeh. The Soviets gave the kidnappers 48 hours to return the hostages and dispatched some guys they call Spetsgruppa A (Alfa Group). The kidnappers and their relatives were identified by supporting KGB operatives working with the Druze militia, and some of the relatives were taken hostage.

                Following the standard policy of ‘no negotiation’, Alfa proceeded to sever some of their hostages’ body parts and sent them to the perpetrators with a warning that more would follow if the Russian hostages were not released immediately. Among the body parts was a decapitated head and some testicles.”

                The tactic worked and no other Russian national was taken hostage in the Middle East for the next 20 years, until the 2006 abduction of Russian diplomats in Iraq.”

                Maybe if we followed the Russian example and started rounding up ISIS family members (if we haven’t got any left in Guantanamo) they might think twice. If only the NSA gathered USEFUL information on real terrorists …but I digress.

          • I say we round up 21 ISIS members. Kill a pig. Spray the blood all over the ISIS weasels and lop their friggin’ heads off. Post a “No virgins for you” video on utube. That should provide some degree of deterrence for any future religious based murders.

            • ht tp://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_black_jack_pershing.htm

              Black Jack Pershing vs. Muslim Terrorists

              “One important thing to remember is that Muslims detest pork because they believe pigs are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others won’t even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them, eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise and doomed to hell.

              Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks against the United States and it’s interests by, you guessed it, Muslim extremists.

              So General Pershing captured 50 of the terrorists and had them tied to posts execution style. He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the, now horrified, terrorists.

              The soldiers then soaked their bullets in pigs blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad.

              The soldiers then dug a big hole, dumped in the terrorist’s bodies and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc.

              They let the 50th man go. And for about the next 42 years, there was not a single attack by a muslim fanatic anywhere in the world.”

              • Now that’s how you terrorize a Muslim terrorist!! Thank you Rednek101!

                P.S. Do you think Obama eats bacon?

                • FS, I’ve been a meateater all my life and will be for the rest of it. Bacon, ham, pork, etc…..YUM YUM!

                  • Navy beans, or split pea soup just ain’t the same without ham. Breakfast just ain’t breakfast without some sausage links with my eggs and coffee…I guess I ain’t no muslim.

                • “P.S. Do you think Obama eats bacon?”
                  Bet there’s not even a pork rind in the house.

                  • Proves he’s Jewish, doesn’t it?

                    • Or allergic to pork.

            • Have you ever watched the movie Swordfish? You kill one of ours, we kill ten of yours. You do it publicly, We kill ten of your families, and their friends. You behead one Christian, we bomb one mosque, while it is full. And on and on and on. You get the point. Until that happens, it will continue as is.

              As far as the video goes, when you are done with them, bend them all over and ram broom handles up there dead asses.

              • I could skip the broom handles, but the rest is how I was taught — to make it so not worth their time and trouble to attack me. For terrorists, it’s “win, lose or draw”, so we have to remove the “win” and “draw” options.

                • The broom handles are not because I’m into that stuff. They are for total embarrassment, shame, just like throwing a shoe.

          • MOAB…Lot’s of them!

            • Bring back napalm

              Semper Fi

          • no need to terrorize them, just need to eliminate them! If you understood that there is NO way to convert them then you would understand there is only one way to deal with them and that is eliminate them! sure LOTS of people cannot comprehend this as it is beyond most people to understand how they are sworn to there religious belief and everything they do just gives them more in the after life! come on people wake up do your research and learn how to deal with these people!!

            • Do not forget that the biting demons of hell are virgins. Not everything they believe is a lie…………….

              • Exactly! I’ve always wondered about that…it doesn’t specify. 72 virgin….what??!! They may be in for a big surprise. Virgin little piggies? LOL

          • If you want to terrorize the terrorists, send in the Marines. They’ve been destroying them since Thomas Jefferson was President.

            • there’s 300 marines in Iraq right now. 300 against everything haj can muster. if you believe your bravado, pray haj does too. Otherwise you might send those boys some weapons oil or something from the land of the big px.
              just say’n.

            • If you want to terrorize the terrorists, STOP ACTING LIKE YOU’RE AFRAID OF THEM. They live off of our fear, so don’t show them any fear OR mercy.

          • Pictures of pork dipped bullets

          • Yes, one suggestion. Nape the motherf***ers… and keep on doing it until there are none of them left.

          • Yes, We should start feeding Terrorists alive to herds of starving Hogs!

          • Yes have had this thought myself several times, fighting fire with fire. They of the reptilian brain may respond more predictably than anticipated. What do they fear – organized aware people and they fear the human quality of selflessness

            God’s speed all

          • Untried? Let us turn off the OnStar on their vehicles and render them inoperable. We could do the same with their cell phones. And while we are at it, we could stop funding them through our intelligent services.

          • Most of them are muslims…we can drop pig’s blood on them!

          • I think all Americans should spread pig’s blood all around their property. That will keep them out of America! 🙂

          • USE NAPALM

          • Ummm… maintain out current forign policy?

          • What if they are nt Islamic terrorists but washingtonian terrorists? Using ome in the military they do not say N or the knuckleheads in the DHS?

        • Only a matter of time now before we are putting holes through islamic savages, scum foreigners, and traitors to our country.

          • Thats the way it seems, not if but when.
            Just too many sheeple who say “it cant happen here”
            I say why cant it?

            • IT will , Kula,
              Obama is importing how many syrians?
              75000 to 125000 ?
              You can almost hold your breath till then.

          • We’ve just about got enough 12 gauge buck to start the games.

        • When I see videos of people practicing shooting at paper and taking their time and using forms and all kind of other movements – if you haven’t been fired at you will know that none of those tactics/forms/movements will work if your most important skill SENSE is not prepared to keep yourself calm at the moment of fear.

        • The thread below degenerates due to troll posting. To hopefully have a meaningful discussion of our domestic situation;
          How much fear is there of ISIL or other assorted Muslim terrorists?
          How much fear is there of “race” riots?
          Economic/food riots?
          National/Federal Police Action?
          Local Police Action?
          Common Criminal muggings/home invasions?

      2. Why run? Chase and destroy the sob’s who are behind the human suffering.

        • Stolz, I will stand and fight. No running away or surrender for me. Not even in my vocabulary. “Every man dies. But not every man truly lives.”

          • Gee, how many hundreds of times have we heard that? yawn……

          • Dude-
            you quote hollywood? seriously? Your chest-thumping reminds me of a guy we had in my unit. state-side always trash talking while we drank beer about how tough he was “going to be”. we deployed finally and the first time the mortar rounds came in, he sh!t himself and cowered (others saw, I didn’t, to be fair).
            lesson: save it till it’s real, THEN we’ll be impressed.

            • One of the coldest sounds in the world THUNK~THUNK!

              • The soft hiss of a grenade fuse will get your attention too.

            • Tequila and ex-landlord, you can believe whatever you want. That is your own affair. I’m not necessarily quoting Hollywood. If you haven’t already guessed, I took my moniker from the movie “Braveheart”, WHICH WAS BASED ON A TRUE STORY. And those very words were some of the last words uttered by William Wallace I the final hours before his brutal execution by English scum. I have always rooted for the underdog and have never been impressed by ANY manmade governments, not even our own. So I’m not so much chest-thumping. I’m only advertising that I believe as William Wallace believed. Take care.

              • Please,William Wallace didn’t play internet badass telling everybody he was going to serve ” hot lead nutrients” to his imagined enemies. Grow up now little boy.

          • RBH I am a 77 year old southern boy and I will not run…

            • Tacoma, I’m only a 57 year old southern boy who ain’t gonna run, period. Anybody who targets me does so at their own peril and I don’t care who they are.

              • T.R.B.:
                Stand your ground my friend!!!!
                If you need any help just call I love the south.
                Its hard to find a better place to be.
                S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.Reb

              • T.R.B.:
                “57” your still a little wet behind the ears.
                Hell your still a kid. But I still want you to be on my side, if TSHTF.
                Ain’t!!! nothing like a good old (well in your case, a young)country boy along side of you for the ride!;-}
                S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.Reb

        • Stolz:
          I’m just to old and tired to run, and to bullhead to give up with out a fight!!!
          That is the problem with the world today, to damn busy running from their problems instead of facing the problems that we face.
          How do you think we got in this SHTF world, that at any time it is going to go BOOM!!! and there is not a thing we can do to stop it.
          Just keep prep’n and praying for the best folks….
          S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S N.Reb

          • Northern Reb,
            I will be right there with you my friend! besides there is no place to run to anyway! might as well take as many as you can!

            • Apache:
              You are right, there is no place to run.
              Yes you might move several miles or across country, but sooner or later, you are going to run out of places to hide.
              Thanks for having my 6. covering each others back we will get through it.
              I’m in central Illinois in farming country with good water, woods, planting area for gardens and clear shooting lanes if I need them with one way in and one way out to traffic. On foot there are several obstacles to work around.
              If you ever need a place You and Yours WELCOME….
              S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.Reb

          • Northern Reb… when I was MUCH younger, I read something that applies here. I didn’t understand it then but I do now. It goes like this… “Never mess with an old man. He knows he can’t fight, run, or hide, so he’ll just kill ya and not think a thing of it”.

            Hell, at my age, I got very little to lose. I’m right with God, so can go on home or stay here, either one’s the same to me. But as long as I am here, I’ll do whatever I can to protect those I love.

            • 41:
              Amen brother. at 61 I’m not running any where and I have made my peace with the good LORD. I will do what ever it take to protect my family even if that means meeting my maker.
              I hear they have some good fishing and hunting up there.
              S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB

      3. and mean while
        the psychopaths who govern the world…

        US Sends “Tankbuster” Jets To Europe Over Russia Fears After Germany Says “A Large Scale War Could Develop”

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0…arge-scale-war

      4. the more I study history
        and the more I look at the world and its current state of events

        the more I am convinced

        that mankind is God’s greatest mistake

        • The irony of that statement is if I[we] had never existed we would never know or understand the irony of it. Now I need a beer

          • better make it a “40” Old Vet

            make it a “40”

          • Hey Old Nam Vet, what’s happenin’? I’m having a glass of Hiram Walker’s Peach Schnapps as I type. That should expand my horizons some. Just started cooking breakfast (I got a couple of nights off from the job). We all have a reason for being here. That includes the good, bad, and the indifferent.
            Dave Hodges’ comments on Benghazi (posted a couple of weeks ago) were interesting. If even half of his comments are valid, we are in for some interesting times.

          • ONV

            Beer. When consumed in massive amounts, has intellectually, although altered state of mind, produced solutions to the problems of the world many times over. ;0)

        • Satori, God created German Shepard’s first for human to follow and to learn integrity, high intelligence and fidelity.

          • Stolz Vorfahren says:
            Satori, God created German Shepard’s first for human to follow and to learn integrity, high intelligence and fidelity.

            And how did that work out?

            • Jim
              The only thing we learned from them was how to lift our legs to peeeeeee
              Sgt.

        • Absolutely,
          Humans are the most destructive species,
          Capable of such great things, yet guilty of some of the most horrific crimes against eachother,
          NONE of us is really free,
          Taxes, governments etc etc,
          Its really quite depressing, just want to be left alone,

          • What species on Planet Earth kills its own, more than Man? Answer None.

            What species on earth Follows Religion more than Man?
            Answer None.

            Coincidence?

            • Most dominant preditors, including cute little house cats, will kill all the young when they take over a new territory. When the females stop producing milk, they go into heat and the new dominant male can breed. Yup those cute little tom cats just murder every kitten they can!

              We had one cat that killed every rat it could, never ate them, just killed them.

              A pack of dogs will often kill every goat in a pen, even though the whole pack would be hard pressed to eat just one.

              So no I don’t agree with you except for one aspect, mans inventiveness with tools has made him the most voracious killer to walk the earth, but in truth many other species are just killers too.

            • Who:
              I hate to through a monkey wrench into your comments, but insects and fish kill each other off just as fast as humans do. They do it for the same reasons except they eat their enemies. Modern man don’t..
              And as far as religion goes. I have never heard of any other thing on earth other having religion, but man.
              S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.Reb

            • “What species on Planet Earth kills its own, more than Man? Answer None.”

              That would be incorrect. The right answer would be… ants… and there are trillions of them on this earth, with many raids and wars among them all of the time. Peace for an ant is the time they spend marching towards and away from an enemy nest.

              • Peace for a human, is the time they spend preparing for the next war.

          • Kula,

            I understand your argument, please understand mine.

            Although man has done some evil, we are also capable of extreme good:

            What species has landed on the moon?
            What species has documented centuries of their own endeavors, good and bad?
            What species has overcome their own diseases to prolong their lives?
            What species is willing to go into almost certain death to help others that are less fortunate?

            I could go on and on, as I’m sure you could. What’s the point?

            We are the dominant life form on this planet and ultimately, we are responsible for it.

            From the oil spills in the ocean to the nuclear waste both on land AND in the ocean (Fukushima), we own these.

            Pollution and the destruction of our planet is all on us. Beheadings? Really? WTF?

            I’m not an environmentalist until the environment is dying…I’m not a Bible thumper until I perceive “The End of Days”…I’m Human.

            We WILL make mistakes, and it is on US to correct them as a species. I’m sure there’s some bat-guano crazy bears out there, maybe the other bears take care of the issue, I don’t know. One thing I do know is that we need to work together, intelligently, to eliminate the problems in the world and I for one do not see this happening with the current world leadership.

            I don’t blame my fellow man, I blame the leaders of my fellow men. I want the trouble makers out, but until enough people are fed up with the status quo and there is a “Human Army” to take out the trash, we’re in trouble.

            Please don’t be fooled by the “politikin'”, the Republicans and the Democrats (as they call themselves) are just flip-sides of the same coin. They’re all in bed with each other.

            I take a risk in even posting this in here, but keep the underground alive brothers, we’re needed. Don’t lose hope. Look forward to what we CAN achieve together and not just the negative things.

            Adapt and Overcome. Good will prevail. God is on our side.

            A&A out.

        • @Satori….

          Don’t blame God for what man has screwed up. God doesn’t deserve that insult.

      5. LISTEN UP… Death is but a doorway… Do Not Fear Death. It is normal. Peace to you all.

        • Also known as: do you take apart your television set and look for the little men inside?

          … yeah I HOPE that’s how the brain works. Can’t really prove it one way or another. Obviously the motor centers are direct linked… beyond that… sigh. Well one hopes doesn’t one?

      6. There are three basic conflict scenarios:

        Armed vs. Armed

        Armed vs. Unarmed

        Unarmed vs. Unarmed.

        Guess which scenario is most likely to be resolved, which is most likely to remain unresolved, and in whose favor that resolution is when it ends in a resolved status.

        • As a general instance of this:

          So I’ve heard there are a lot of bums in Detroit, who are at this very moment huddling in abandoned buildings and basically freezing to death, most likely quite literally.

          Now you would think… back in ancient times, these guys would band up, take some shelters, cut some trees, make some fires, and all basically be “drafted” into their “military”, defending their “tent city”.

          But they don’t now.

          And let’s recall all the bulldozers rolling over tent cities of late.

          And why don’t they?

          Totally. Utterly. Pathetically. Laughably. HILARIOUSLY. Out-gunned. That’s why.

          These people are going to die, no joke. They are dying right now as I type this. No sh*t, they are watching their life end in first-person perspective right this very second now.

          If that wouldn’t motivate someone, I don’t know what would.

          And people are all like “I’m gonna do this and that and bag me some blue helmets and on and on when it comes”.

          You’re going to grab your ankles and kiss it goodbye when it comes, most likely. If Detroit is any indication. It’s not like it’s going to be this big “thing” that goes down all at once and it’s like “ok obviously this is it”.

          This is definitely “it” for those guys. How’s that resistance of theirs coming along?

          Better to be already in a situation that’s sustainable right now. With any luck “it” will just pass right by you.

          • We are not Detroit bums.

            • I know damned well I’m not a bum.

        • Acid, good question, and I’ll give you my answer. I believe any and all premeditated and deliberate violence against women is wrong. Any and all exploitation of women is wrong. Muslim turds make all woman beaters in the West look like boy scouts. I wouldn’t have any problem shooting woman beaters regardless of where they come from.

        • Gee Acid, I thought you have said many times that Women like to be dominated. Is your “Other” personality showing?

      7. Selco, thank you for another outstanding article. I’ve been to your website before and it’s mind-blowing. Everyone needs to go to Selco’s website and learn something about SHTF. He has ALREADY lived through a societal-economic collapse which is what is coming to this land. All preppers need to go to shtfschool.com and learn what they’re going to be facing from a man who has already been there and done that. I highly recommend it.

      8. Urban vs. Rural

        On 9/11 I was standing under the world trade center in another city besides nyc; there are many wtcs in the us. Pigs came and told everyone to leave and wouldn’t tell us why. Streets were so jammed you couldn’t move anywhere. I went to a shopping mall to wait it out. The mall kicked everyone out and I was just walking in the streets. And the day after that’s when I started to EDC.

        I was urban for many years now I’m semi-rural. You can certainly be an urban prepper. It’s just not as strong a position as preps and safety go. On the other hand my urban apartments have never been broken into. But three of my rural properties have been broken into when I wasn’t there. After that I started sleeping with handcuffs and police scanner in the dresser.

        • Acid Etch

          Those cops that had you move from a potential target (as they damn sure didn’t know what was next) did you a favor.

          The book, “Surviving Economic Collapse” written about Argentina has a lot of real world useful advice. He stated those in rural areas had no support and were targets. I think a half acre lot in the suburbs with a well organized garden and good neighbors is probably the best. If by chance you had a large extended family on multiple acres that would be best.

        • Handcuffs? Nah–cable ties.

          • Handcuffs? Nope. S&W and some duct tape.

      9. Excellent article!
        Until we are tested, we do not know what we are capable of. You can be defeated before the battle begins by your own fear. We must prepare our minds now for the tasks that may be forced upon us in the future.
        Strength to all my brothers and sisters in arms.

        • Chuck…I too from bama I will stand shoulder nto shoulder with you

      10. Prepper vs. prepper

        I wonder how many preppers will go Mr. Kurtz and start raping these hos and stealing in SHTF. After all, a prepper would have every opportunity to do as he pleases. And you never know what anybody will do in SHTF. Something to think about.

        • Acid, if I find someone committing rape I’ll shoot the POS.

          • What if he works for the Pentagon?

            Rabbi Dov S. Zakheim, the former Pentagon Comptroller (among a myriad of other military appointments and positions) has written a statement on the ‘ethics’ of rape of non-Judaic women during wartime:

            It is the consensus of many halakhic [rabbinic law] decisors that the yefat to’ar [non-Judaic female prisoners] can be subject to involuntary intercourse [rape], though only once, after which she must undergo a specific regimen prescribed in the Torah [i.e. Talmud], conversion and marriage, before her [Judaic] captor is permitted further sexual relations with her.
            Dov S. Zakheim, “Confronting Evil: Terrorists, Torture, The Military and Halakhah, published by Yeshivat Chovevei Torah Rabbinical School

            http://www.yctorah.org/component/option,com_docman/task,doc_view/gid,304/

        • “Dammit Acid … is your room clean? … well? …. answer me!”

        • Acid, I’ve wondered the same. I know you’re getting a lot of red thumbs on that but don’t take it personally. Its not like you suggest that its OK.

          Its not in my nature to rape and pillage. Instead, it is in my nature to help and nurture. Whatever nature aside, if I catch anyone doing as you wonder about above, you can be their death will be swift as there will not be a moment that I’m not armed and I’m somewhat of an empath when it comes to pain and suffering. Cross the line and I’ll make sure you get really dead really quick. …as painless as possible, of course.

      11. It is time to nuke isis until their shadows glow in the dark

        • How about nuke the ISIS creators? Killing savages is easy…killing their masters should be the goal.

          • I don’t think we’re allowed to nuke Washington.

            • Sharon,
              Washington is not part of the United States.
              It is still controlled by England/British
              I say it should be allowed.

            • Ask permission? I don’t think so, Tim.

      12. It would be better to get rid of the traitor in the white hut and “reset” the govt. button. Since I don’t run anymore, I can walk fast though, guess I’ll stand my ground.

        • Confederate, you ain’t just whistling Dixie about that. I’m standing my ground also.

          • Yup..me too…with my type 53 and 7.62x54r

            Live Free or Capt. John Parker “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.

            Talon1776

      13. It is like a switch, when turned on you have no compassion for others, yet it takes a very long time to turn it back off. When a guy is shot through the hips, and all messed up. It is not a problem to put him out of his misery with a bullet in his ear. If the switch is off then you don’t fight and run or surrender. Drag guys shot through the hips with you, or try to patch them up. Fear is not a option if you want to survive, only fight and retreat. Yet some people are not wired that way, so they suffer…

      14. Thats real reality right there. With a population of 340,000,000+, its not going to be cake walk. I met and old man from my church, 95 Yrs old man, 15 yrs ago, Good old Phil and his wife. They survived the great depression. When i asked him what he taught about the population difference, he laughed and said that there was no chance in hell that we would survive this. He told me that we would be invaded by China, and that we would become canibals, and that he sees us killing and eating each and the foreign soldiers killing us, murder, rape, attrocities to the extreme and to each other, and the soldiers, once the animal population got depleted, it’s canibalism. He barely made it with his wife and kids, and almost starved to death, then they got to Lousiana, the food was plentill full, thanks to the local animals and vermins, that solved the food supply issue. I listen to people and talk to soldiers who have been in war, and real situations and experiencing. They tell me its, kill or be killed. It is really something else. I am now prepared for hell on earth as we know it. If its invasion, i am ready, if its local civil war, i am ready. When it hits, me like eveyone else who talks tough, will probabley Sh….t my pants, loose bladder control and run like hell. If we are cornered, the red necks in my are who i run into all the time says that the attackers, foreign or domestic, will be dealth with in a very severe manner. They said that they will stay here, fight here and die here. One of my friends signed up for Selco’s Shtf school. I just about sh…t my pants, and lost bladder control reading it. Selco, internationally known, locally respected. I highly recomend his course. You have got to read it. Now we have found out that the food supply has now been cut off and that food is not coming in in the ports, and Isis is coming in and has a Jihadist traning camp off of County Rd 3 in Brazoria, Texas. See Google and do a search, i was really supprised at what was going on. Something bad is about to happen, and it’s not looking good at all. I really feel sorry for the unprepared, they are really screwed. The 1.2 million chinese soldiers in the Sierra madreas in Mexico who are being told to get ready to invade Houston and Texas. These punks have no idea what awaits them once they enter Houston, Cypress, Katy, Woodland, Conroe, etc. Even i cops i have met told me that something is coming and that they have begun personal preparation. The armament in my City and the outskirt cities, is non the less HORRIFIC. Any of you Chinese, Russian, Nato, Un soldiers reading my post, good luck to you all once you get here. You will know the mistake that you ‘ve made when you arrive in my city.

        • “The 1.2 million chinese soldiers in the Sierra madreas in Mexico who are being told to get ready to invade Houston and Texas.”

          I havent heard that one before.
          What are they doing ? Just hangin out with the gangs?
          Sounds odd to me .

        • HOUST/KATY/CYPRESS ?Bravo!!! That Was in my opinion the biggest bunch of BS story telling i have read in a while.Get your facts right, and TRY NOT TO post that sort of nonsense..RE;1.3 MILLION CHINESE.and you thumb uppers should check the facts as well. lets try to make some sense of what makes a legitimate post and or opinion.
          (VERIFIED FACTS).SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!!! THUMBS UP….NOT.
          NUMBER #1 WE DO NOT IMPORT LARGE QUANTITIES OF FRESH FOOD FROM CHINA. FROZEN/CANNED/ YES.small qtys.BUT NOT ENOUGH TO DISRUPT THE US FOOD SUPPLY.UNLESS YOUR COUNTING Poisoned bird/DOG FOOD.
          NUMBER TWO .YOUR ARMAMENT’S statement regarding YOUR LOCAL TOWNS AND CITIES comment is absurd. WITHOUT A LEADER/COMMANDER/support staff and heavy artillery.That’s called an army.you can have all the ak47s and ar15s you want .DO you know what a small group of heavily armed men of just 10,000 can do? devastate entire towns and cities and the people that live in them.MY dad fought against the Chinese in korea and they ran out of ammo.to many to kill Your dreaming. wake up!!!

        • Sounds like off of County Rd 3 in Brazoria, Texas would be a fine place to start cleaning up.

          Question: If a few local boys went in and cleaned out some real terrorists, would it be legal?

          Answer: It’s still legal to shoot snakes in Texas.

        • Satori

          ISIS causes manageable trouble which justifies a US military response. The canon fodder of ISIS has no idea that their leadership is compromised. This will sooner or later show its true intent when both Islamic rebels and overt elements of the US military attack Syria.

          When the alliances don’t make sense then those alliances aren’t really allied. Its like what one sees on TV where one Federal Agency is going undercover posing as criminals while another Federal Agency out of the loop is investigating them. I’ll bet even some of those on the inside have a difficult time understanding friend verses foe. I can’t imagine explaining this to Joe Biden. The SNL skit would be hilarious.

          “You can’t tell the players without a score card”.

      15. My actions/reactions will depend on the circumstances. One thing I will not stew over is wonderin’ when the boogieman is going to show.

        • I try to not worry about that as well, but know i am not going anywhere with anyone when that bogeyman does show,

          • I hear ya. Me neither.

            • Here, bogeyman. Come to Papa Braveheart. Papa has some nice ‘hot lead’ for you.

      16. OFF TOPIC — 100% SATIRE / HUMOR

        An “A.S.S.H.O.L.E.” Will Be Everywhere, Promises President Obama

        Washington–President Obama today signed into law the “America’s Secret Services Helping Our Liberties Endure” act, or ASSHOLE.

        “This much needed piece of legislation will give us the tools we need to place an ASSHOLE on nearly every street corner, making our great country impervious to another 9/11,” said the president, adding “There will be an ASSHOLE on your cell phone, an ASSHOLE monitoring your ISP and many more ASSHOLE’s in our schools, work places and other public meeting places where al Qaeda types can and do flourish.”

        “We must endure a few privations, such as temporarily suspending the Bill of Rights in our never-ending struggle against those who attacked us on 9/11, but no freedom loving American will object to that small sacrifice to help us prevent al Qaeda or IS or aL Nusra from again striking the homeland.”

        DHS Head Johnson said that he would personally see that ASSHOLE’s were everywhere, smothering the homeland in a blanket of security agents from which there would be no escape for those seeking to do us harm, protest against the act, or those foolish enough to rally for reinstatement of the Bill of Rights.

        Federal Reserve Chairman Janet Yellen issued a press release saying that to help pay for all these ASSHOLE’s, the Fed would be willing to loan the USA some more of its own money, and as long as we can only pay back interest on the money previously borrowed, then the agents of terror would never bother the homeland again.

      17. In the calm safety of my armchair I long ago decided I’m more afraid of dying dishonorably than of dying. Samurai wars meant the melee, within which one warrior squared off against another warrior. The carnage was horrific but honor governed conduct.

        In advance of being in the situation one doesn’t know how one will behave. I like to think I would behave honorably.

        Seems to me a drone-fired missile that drops out of the sky, one minute Abdul is alive, the next moment he is dead, is at least as much about terror as anything ISIS has done.

        Personally I don’t care which species of Islamic rules which acreage in the Middle East. Our government is just as intent on ruling there as the locals are. Difference is, it’s their home, they have a right to be there. We don’t.

        Government: causing more violence than it has prevented for 10,000 years.

        • Comment ID: 3335226

          It’s all about eschatology, no matter who starts it.

      18. I’m pissed enough to fight back. Takes a lot to get me going but when it happens…hell will break out.

      19. Nah, there a 3 choices-
        fight, run… or just call it a day(life).

        I am planing on calling it day(life). Life is not that valuable. I don’t even know what the point of all of this nonsense is. It is beginning to look like a big prank something.

        We live measly 30-80 years on this miserable rock among others who think that are good, but facts be known most people are scum and lie to themselves about that fact to make them self feel better.

        Nah, when SHTF I am out, done, kaput.

        This world is barely worth living in as things are today, and it sure is not worth living in after stores, cars, light switches, running water, internet and HVAC etc etc etc are gone.

        You all can have it.

        Have fun living like caveman (at least the cavemen didnt know the FACTS, they didnt any better, they didnt know that man was so stupid, so lame, so corrupt and full OF SHITE that after 2000-4000 years we cant get it right…. all humans do is war, and cheat and hold back info, create ruling classes, keep secrets and love corruption…. man is a failure. Humans as a species is a failure.

        2000 years and we cant get it right.

        I hang my head in shame at all the money wasted on the cold war alone from 1955-1995. ICBM bombers flying 24/7, nuclear missile silos, etc etc and in the end… all that time and money wasted… we could have done so much long term good with that money.

        And today all this nonsense terror, wars, lies and BS… it is all a money making scam. They invent an enemy to make money fighting.

        General Dwight Eisenhower and General Smedley Butler (War is a racket) told us LONG AGO all we needed to know about the scam of wars… and what did we do with that info???? NOTHING!!!

        Nah… when SHTF I am out, fk this world, you can have it.

        • Jimmy –

          To a certain degree, most of us probably feel the same way as you do at times, because we all know the future is not going to be getting better. No one is asking you to physically take yourself to the fight. If the fight comes to you, then I would hope you would have the decency to defend yourself if such an event was to unfold upon you.

          I often think how nice it would be to live on an habitable tropical island, by myself or with a small select group of like-minded individuals. No Governance, just straight up common(sense) laws. People helping each other on daily activities and enjoying what nature has to offer.

          Unfortunately, I doubt a place like that exists on this Planet, so back to dreaming I go …….

        • Can you take out some murderous Islamic terrorists before you check out first?

        • Just imagine the stuff we could have all done if they (govt) gave the people the $ they have given bankers, corps, and foreign trash and spent on war over the last 15+\- years,,,,,

          • I know my house would be paid off, I’d be able to buy a few for my offspring and be extremely well armed

            Maybe that’s why they want to try their best to hold us down , because the revolution would have been started and over before I was born
            And our gov would know it’s place

        • No one is going to lay down and die. Thinking that way is beyond stupid.

          • Acid, I definitely agree with that. I won’t lay down and die either. Good post.

        • Jimmy,

          I feel for you, buddy. But, would you do us all a favor? Run into the enemy camp with an explosive backpack or something. At least make the last few moments worth something to your fellow man.

          • NetRanger –

            Not cool dude/dudette
            Your response to Jimmy in that nature was not needed. If you were trying to be humorous, it was with very poor taste.

            ‘Ya – I red thumbed you, so what?

        • @jimmy…

          can’t much blame you. I’d just like to live long enough to be a problem for them.

      20. Have you ever witnessed two dogs fight over a dead animal for survival?Lets just assume for a moment that you are one of the other dogs and your hungry.Really hungry,starving in fact.Instinct kicks in and There is no reasoning with a rabid blood thirsty starving dog,and these animals/enemies are just that.You will have to kill them,or they will eat you alive,there is no negotiating or reasoning and certainly no surrender.Our first instinct as humans is flight or fight,those who have been trained to fight do just that if conditions are favorable.most although are not trained and will certainly not make it. I’m sure Selco has seen that happen more than once.FEAR!!! HELL YES!!! AND LOTS OF IT.there is nothing wrong with fear,it can keep you alive.I do not like to loose and if i stated otherwise,I would be a deceiving myself.

      21. I,too would like to stand and fight. In all honesty, I don’t know what the hell I’ll do.

        • Honestly your not alone,
          Have a feeling we will find out some day in the not to distant future,

        • South- Don’t stand an fight, lay down, you’re harder to spot. Seriously, here’s what I saw;
          When we’re thrown into a totally new situation- usually we freeze as our minds attempt to analyse the situation and come to a rational (read sane and safe) course of action. Our minds buzz but usually we stand motionless . If it’s a new and violent situation, we freeze longer, a kind of mental shock ensues. That’s why some simply run away- or cower.
          It’s better with training, often we simple become mechanical and do what we were trained to do- still in shock as many will atest to
          Most of us who were peacetime troops admitted in humble honesty we didn’t know either. We simply hoped we’d react correctly and lead as we were taught and would keep our guys alive best we could. The usual promise was; If we survive-I won’t laugh at you (much) if you piss yourself if you don’t laugh at me…much.
          It’ll help if you talk with your guys about it before hand. (and after) But training is best, train JUST THE WAY you’d do it. No patty-cake. ‘course, that raises eyebrows sometimes. be careful. Hope it helps.

      22. Thanks Mac!
        We need a wake up call now and then, again THANKS.

        I just heard some of the top Christian Preachers are tell their flocks “There is a STORM coming”

        For me I have already made up my mind. I will stand and fight, I’m too damn old to run, and when I had my knees replaced I don’t run that well. I also with my training will stand and fight, because I have learned to shut down the run reflex. I also know that it might be better to retreat and regroup and fight another day.

        I also know this is my home, my family, and to someone else it is just a piece of land, or just another person. I’m willing to let them loose their life try to take it.

        I pray for all the folks on this site that they never have to find out if they will fight or run. I have come close to take a couple of lives, and the feeling you get is not pleasant. To me it was a very sickening feeling. No shakes just sick to my stomach.

        AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
        Sgt.

      23. Excellent article. When confronted with an enemy like ISIS it’s best to understand that for a time you’ll need to shut your humanity down. The best example IMHO is the legacy Vlad The Impaler left for us. Was it sick? Yes. Horrificly brutal? Yes. Did it work? Absolutely. We often talk about the difference between sheep, sheep dogs, and wolves. Wolves are a perceived threat from the get go. However, if you’be ever seen a wolf mauled to death you’ll notice the pack usually retreats. If you’re smart you string up the carcass as a reminder. If not they’re soon to return. While I will never promote violence against innocent people, groups like ISIS should be met with a force of violence that would make Vlad himself turn away. Images from Hell should be burned in to their minds so that they know what awaits them should they continue their evil paths. That’s my two cents anyways. Maybe it sounds hateful and scary, but I’ve seen too many Christians, men, women, and even children murdered by these bastards to care anymore.

        I apologize for any errors. Not typed from my phone lol.

      24. The brutality of ISIS rivals any group in the history of the world. I do not think they can be reasoned with. They will come .

        • it’s all about their eschatology

          see above comment #3335226

      25. I respect Selco and his experieince. It is his sobering articles that help have a glimpse into a possbile future in the US, or elsewhere. I agree in that acknowledging the fear and terror is a good step towards keeping one’s head. I have no delusions that I can take on any threat alone, also. People need to work in groups, looking out for each other as a whole.

        • To me, terror is when fear has gotten the best of you.

      26. First,stop the US from being world police man,get us the hell out of the mid east completely,that sandbox has been a warring ratfuck for 2000 years,feel strongly about isis/palestinians/isreal ect. go join em on your own dime and do not expect a military rescue if things go bad.Now that we have left,any attack us then wipe em out long distance,though get it right and not just keep fucking up and killing civillians,we have the tech.We leave the mid east excuses to attack the US or other countries involved that leave fade away.iI as a citizen am sick to death of this bullshit along with other wars like on our bill of rights/the so called drug war ect.

        Now that excuses are gone,be armed to the teeth and deal with any who threaten you or your family/friends existence with death,literally.This includes armed govt. stooges/zombie mobs/local armed robbers,you get the point.

      27. I wonder if all this fancy satellite technology can pick out a certain “color” orange suit (that they dress the captive’s in)and target those places with a something. Second why not show videos of us burying some of their guys (dead) with pigs entrails and blood in he same hole. Supposedly that makes them unclean and they cant get into heaven/ afterlife. They are all tough with those masks on. Take them off tough guys and let u see who you are. If they hate the cross so much we should air drop MILLIONS of them. Treat them like vampires. Rain swine blood on their houses. Drop leaflets telling them what is being dropped on them. Mess with THEIR HEADS! Every kind of voodoo against there beliefs, give it to them by the ton.

        • ISIL not ISIS they updated their name for a reason. The “O” knows and uses their newer name selection. ISIL does not continue without friends in high places, high places in the USSA. Our problems are Domestic, not “Foreign”, unless the Russian reaction to the original USSA Ukrainian provocation is considered foreign.
          I will not fight for this Offal Feral NWO Prog Gov. ruling over the fruited plain.

      28. About my comment about the chinese soldiers in the Sierra Madras. The first time i heard this honestly was on the youtube videos about the truck driver who was delivery food, goods, etc. I had heard quayle and Hodges and Dr Jim Garrow talk about the Chinese that have entered out city on Visas. We have all heard about the Russians in our coutry by the 20,’s thousands, the UN, and Latvians soldier nationals. I see the comments that some of the folks here have been bashing Dave Hodges and have a right thier opininons. I belive he is telling the God Honest truth. Now here is and incident that happen to me and this happen in the month of January of 2014, right here in the Galleria Houston Tx. A female friend who is a tatoo artist in the Galleria, whom i was hanging out with, i happen to tell here about a hodges article that i read earlier about russian soldiers seen in cities up north. Alex Jones of all people had a caller tell him that he had run into a russian soldier in Conroe Texas, that he went up to the man and asked him where he was from and he said Russia. Now back to the tatoo shop incident. I showed my girlfriend the link, and she goes, this is serious, let me post it on facebook, i told her don’t do that, its being monitored by the agencies. Her comment was this “f…k them, i could care less”. She posted it. We went out in the parking lot by her car, she lit up a cigarette, we then noticed a white lexus pull up. This was mins later after her post on her Facebook page. She goes, oh, i have a customer. We go back up to the store front. WHEN I LOOKED. I saw this tall about 5″11″ eastern european looking dude about 27-28 yrs, extremely muscular, caves, quads, arms, built like a brick sh…t house. He looked right at her.

        Him-what is this place
        her-its a tatoo shop, do you need to get a tatoo.
        him-where is the computer.
        me-whats the problem.
        him- aggressively, its that your computer.

        I panicked.

        I noticed that he was very built, very extremely muscular,i cannot emphasize the muscularity, since i am bodybuilder, and a martial artist. He looked me right in the eye point blank, and then turned entered the store and walked right up the the computer. I then stoped him

        me-come on, lets go outside. where are you from and whats you business here.
        him-i am from russia.
        me- i am from north Houston, and i am not afraid of you, so you better move on.

        I taught he was going to attacked me. He was a trained killer, its was obvious. Then i noticed him looking at my body sizing me up, i backed up 6 Ft away to prepare for his attack, then i told him

        me-i am from up north, we will be ready for your kind once you start sometime, go back to where you came from and dont come back again.

        He then turned around and left in his white lexus. This son of a bitch was so musclular he may have been a super soldier, possible. My point is something is going on. He was russian. He came by the store and demanded to see the computer and he was acting weird. He matched the physical distcription of s Spetnaz. People, we are being surrounded and foreighn soldiers are now in my city. A retired cop me 6 months ago that he was in central America, and that 2 retirees told him that chinese soldiers are massing in Mexico and panama to Invade the United States and he then told me that he is meeting up with the patriots and Veterans because this really happening. I cant prove this happend to me to anyone, yet it did. This incident backed up Steve Quayle, David Hodges 100%, period. Was the russian monitoring facebook and who told to go investigate the store. he damands to see that computer. Whats wrong with this picture? Now i am hearing about operation Boa and Lighning from Hawk on Steve Qyayle site about this so called operation will be going down to stike all patriots, veterans and gun owners over a 3 day period between now and Ocotber 1st. Something is cooking. Needless to say, my friend says she will not post on facebook ever again. I warned her.

        • Thanks for the heads up, Brian.

        • You are nuts and need help. That is one hell of a fantasy tale. The UN are useless and could not fight their way out of a paper bag. As for the Chinese, there are a lot of them but they also do not have the experience to war-fight on this scale. The US military is still the best prepared and experienced for war-fighting and has not been at peace for most of the time after WWII.

      29. Here is a solution: Announce to the world, any ISIS lunatic captured alive or found dead on the battlefield will be injected with a syringe of pig blood.

        The threat of NEVER seeing Allah/Mohammad because you are defiled should put the fear of something in them, at the very least they will not get to enjoy their 72 virgins for eternity. 😉

        • 72 male virgins

          Hey , they don’t say what gender

      30. You NEVER wait for an attack. Period.

        • Marcus –

          Technically you are correct, but there is a huge problem.
          People like us, that are awake and know whats going on for the most part – are maybe about 10%.

          90% or more of the population of America are DUMB!!!!!!
          (a) complete denial
          (b) don’t care
          (c) self centered assholes
          (d) all of the above

          Answer: d

          We are a very small percentage, and according to the Federal Government – our 10% or less of us are Domestic Terrorist.
          We are left no choice but to be attacked first, either way we are screwed if we were to take the first strike. The propaganda machine that has been working so well to the dumbed down society, that they themselves would buy into it and turn onto us.

          I have 3 Threat Levels – starting with highest priority.

          (1) Government [federal, state, local & foreign]
          (2) Society [uninformed sheep, gangs, and self centered assholes]
          (3) Law Enforcement [modern day steroid rage thuggish kind]

          (4) Foreign – only way this will be a threat, is because the US Government themselves invited them here to create problems. I see no foreign intrusion or invasion from the outside, unless they feel like committing suicide. I just do not see that happening, common sense should play a strong role to any foreign entity. This is Why I do not see an outside threat, just an inside one.

          Which brings me to my last part of my post.
          If the political theatrics (domestic/foreign) do not play well for the establishment, then for sure another “event” will take place on US soil.
          If TPTB can not get their WWWIII going off with a bang, then for sure they’ll create their Problem – Reaction – Solution

          Anything to keep the masses full of Fear and Paranoia.
          TPTB are losing ground, in time – they will make up for it.

          Be Well

          • 90% are commies.

      31. On a totally unrelated subject…

        I wonder who State Department Spokes-slut, Marie Harf, had to sleep with to get her current gig?

        Is there a more vacuous bimbo on the face of the planet?

        Inquiring minds want to know.

        • Well, you have Jen Psaki and Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Shiela Jackson, Barbara Boxer, I’m sure there are others, but fortunately they escape me right now.

      32. Any one needing to get any M 855 Green tip 5.56 ammo they have in stock at http://www.SGAMMO both foriegn and domestic and the shipping is good too they do not rape you on it and the price is still good even if they do not ban its still good to have some put away

        • Forget it. Buy 12 gauge 00 buck.

      33. This was probably the most rational, level-headed assessment of the “terrorist problem” that I’ve come across. Thank you, Selco.

      34. Haven’t taken much shit from anyone my entire life , I don’t see that changing anytime soon
        If anything the older I get the less shit I will put up with
        So if they step to me , chances are it won’t end well
        Who ends up with the short end of the stick , will remain to be seen
        I’ll be patiently waiting to do some tyrant trampling
        Bring it !

        • EOTS

          When you have less days in front of you, than you have behind you. You do not have to put up with a lot of things. Mortality gives you something to think about. In fact lots of things.

      35. Hmmm? Burnt in a cage or run? I’m running like hell! And all you liars will be right behind me.

      36. From the nasty replies of these posts, forget about muslums. Even from this group that should know better.Grow up or self destuct.

        • Best comment yet. It is just one letter that changes evolution into revolution. Lots of R’s floating around today. People need to understand that life will go on. Too many R’s will make sure it isn’t on two legs. An attitude imbued by constant war and they know not why. Society or survival. It has come to this again. Weasels kill all the chickens and piss on the pile. It doesn’t need to be that way.

      37. I believe ISIS is being allowed by TPTB to flourish presently to teach the middle east a lesson…kind of like ” So you say you hate the west? Look what your own kind do to you…who’s your daddy now?”. I took part in the first Gulf War and my Son in the second, neither he nor I see anything that the U.S. military could not crush in about 30 days/30 billion. Then what? Unless we imperially occupy/or do genocide ala’ Old Testament there will be some new group with a catchy name back on the same ground after we lamely surrender it back to them after our boys and girls died for it. Middle East is hopeless, read the back of the book and take care of your family.

        • “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” Samuel Adams

          Please train civilian patriots.

      38. Ahh the Lord certainly works in mysterious ways. there was a time long ago I could of easily became a monster, but the creator had mercy and led me on a path of righteousness.
        I have learned to value a life of peace and quiet, unwilling to do harm as revenge for being born.
        However inside there still lurks that monster, waiting for the day it can be unleashed upon evil, I welcome that.
        It will be most unfortunate for evil people on that day, several times I have been close to serious injusry or certain death and walked away without a scratch, I believe due to divine intervention, only god can remove me from the earth.
        I have reached one determination because of my life experience, when the day comes I can and will unleash that monster for the protection of others.

      39. ISISrael —–
        Israel has 400+ NUKES.
        Israel HATES Christianity & GENTILES.
        Israel thinks GREATER ISRAEL should rule the World.
        Israel has “DUAL-citizens”whose only true loyalty is to Israel, embeded throughout American government/society. According to the Zionist creed, Israel is the state of the Jews, all the Jews. Every Jew in the world belongs to Israel, even if temporarily residing somewhere else If Israel could provoke nuclear apocalypse between America&Russia …..and maybe even China ….. BY WAY OF DECEPTION…. Israel would be the ONLY NUCLEAR ARMED SUPERPOWER left………
        Especially if it nuked many of It’s HATED/HISTORICAL “enemies” While they are bombing each other.(Germany, Poland, England, Egypt, Iraq, basically ALL gentiles should “bear the YOKE of Israel”)Noted Israeli military historian Martin Karfeld stated that Israel could find itself one day forced to exterminate the European continent using all kinds of weapons including its nuclear arsenal if it felt its demise neared, stressing that Israel also considers Europe a hostile target.
        Does Israel have nuclear missiles aimed at the main world capitals?? — Nothing surprises me anymore. Seem like every world government today, is hell-bent with death, destruction or wars.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a72KoaB1mI8

        Israel BRAGS about doing similar in Babylon(75,000dead) Egypt(all the FIRST BORN)
        Israel’s MOTTOES:
        (1) NEVER forgive & NEVER forget.
        (2) By Way of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War.

      40. I am being accused of posting fantasy tales., Thanks Free Slave for the positive comment. This was a heads up, i am letting people know that what Steve Quayle and Hawk talked about, the russians in our cities is real. One was in my face demanding to see my girlfriends computer. Who the hell aggressively just barges into a business like that. IT OBIVOUS THAT SOME AGENCY SENT OUT THE RUSSIAN SON OF BITCH TO SEE WHO POSTED THE COMMENT OF FACE BOOK. HE WAS ACTING VERY AGGRESSIVE TOWARD ME AND MY FRIEND. I TAUGHT HE WAS GOING TO ATTACK ME. It seems like Kaynine thinks that he has it all figured. I dont live in a fantasy world. When soldiers from other countries come here, they will have hell in my city. Everyweek, the ammo is running out of the Academy and Freedom Munitions. You thing, that i am making up that story about the russian up in my face in the galleria. THIS IS A REAL INCIDENT, THIS IS A REAL FACT OF LIfE. THIS HAPPEN TO ME. My first comment about the chinese soldiers, i was told this by a retired cop who was told this by other cops, while he was in central America, that chins is massing troops in Mexico to invade us, and i have been told this by former veterans and soldiers who live in my city. Lots of soldiers are moving to Texas for a reason. This is the last Free remainding state. So keep blasting me Kaynine, you think you know it all. If cops are telling me and others to arm up, it means they know something is going on, so this is not fantasy. Selco did that post to remind us what is about to happen and how we might handle it, and the results of shtf. Fantasy tales coming from me, not happening. I dont live in s fantasy world. There are things i know that i cant even post on this site. Things are far worst than we can ever imagine. i hope Selso deletes your account. 10,000 soldiers with heavy artilery cannot take down Houston. All 10,000 of them will be dead in 1 week. At some point within days, these little punks have to come out of thier amored personal carriers, to engage the population face to face, this is when the fun starts. They invading army will need access to lots of women and girls and go house to house, this is when they are going get thier invading asses blown away. They will get a SEVERE RESPONSE, WHEN THEY GET TO KATY, CYPRESS, NORTH HOUSTON. 1,000,000 INVADING US, now this can cause a major problem. Still they have to spread thin, they will not survive. We win this war, period. Kaynine, shut the hell up. No wonder they are desperately trying to take our guns, tpdb know that thier plans to have us invaded will fail miserably, of course, they need to disarm us to make it a cake walk for the jihadist, chinese, nato and russians when they get here. As for any of you invading punks reading my post, you have been forewarned. My city is not Iraq, it not Kobane, not Syria. This city is armed with fire power to the ENTH DEGREE. Kaynine, you think you know it all eh. You dont know sh…t.

      41. When did a–rabs ever show as much initiative as ISIS?
        Why/HOW did ISIS “just appear” from nowhere?
        Something smells and the path leads to—

        Why Aren’t ISIS and Al-Qaeda Attacking Israel?
        http://12160.info/profiles/blo
        http://www.activistpost.com/20……
        Zionism And ISIS: Opposing Forces Or Two Sides Of The Same Coin?
        http://www.blacklistednews.com
        ————–
        http://investmentwatchblog.com
        THE HAGUE, Netherlands (JTA) — A senior employee of the Dutch Justice Ministry said the jihadist group ISIS was created by Zionists seeking to give Islam a bad reputation.
        ———————
        http://www.addictinginfo.org/2
        UN Finds Credible Ties Between ISIS And Israeli Defense Forces

      42. Judging from the comments, the world would be a heaven without white people and muslims. I say let’s make a big space ship and send them all out to space let them kill each other off on the moon. As a native American I wish all you people would get off my land and go back where you all came from.

      43. Leonard, welcome to the board. I never taught i would be getting bashed up on this site. I have been monitoring this site since 2010. One my buddies in Native American. He was adobted by a White American Couple. They funded his College and he is a Nurses Aide. He belives in our Constitution and lives in a Red Neck Area. What the Anerican people did to the Natives was really bad.. Most American Patriots of today like the Native Americans. Your land is your land, i back up you land comment. I understand what your talking about. I love the native Americans. I am your friend. The war of the near future, i see natives fighting with Americans, to fend of invaders.

      44. Post collapse and restoration. There should be ZERO immigration when the government gets restored.

        Our problems exist because our government got infiltrated.

        Too many good people who don’t understand how evil and devious the Communists/Fascists/Muslims are.

        I believe we will win and recreate America. No Welfare. No property taxes. A simple sales tax. Sealed borders. For starters.

      45. One thing is for certain if anything…..humans are a failed species. There is very little to no hope for you. As I read the posts in this forum it is clear that insanity prevails and humanity will always do what they have always done….self destruct.

        They realized long ago that unsupervised humans can be used as planet cleaners……drop a few of them off on any planet….come back in a few thousand years and it will be a glazed dead dirtball ready for whatever comes next.

        The universe will never be a safe place as long as even one human breathes.

        Thank you for your time.

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