‘This Ends The Debate’ – Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13x More Effective Than Vaccines At Stopping Delta

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    This article was originally published by Tyler Durden at ZeroHedge.

    Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden’s COVID advisors have been proven wrong about “the science” of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the opposite is true: natural infection offers a much better shield against the delta variant than vaccines.

    The study was described by Bloomberg as “the largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity – gained from an earlier infection – to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use.” A few days ago, we noted how remarkable it was that the mainstream press was finally giving voice to scientists to criticize President Biden’s push to start doling out booster jabs. Well, this study further questions the credibility of relying on vaccines, given that the study showed that the vaccinated were ultimately 13x as likely to be infected as those who were infected previously, and 27x more likely to be symptomatic.

    Alex Berenson, a science journalist who has repeatedly questioned the efficacy of vaccines and masks at preventing COVID, touted the study as enough to “end any debate over vaccines v natural immunity.”

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    Here’s an excerpt from a report by Science Magazine:

    The new analysis relies on the database of Maccabi Healthcare Services, which enrolls about 2.5 million Israelis. The study, led by Tal Patalon and Sivan Gazit at KSM, the system’s research and innovation arm, found in two analyses that people who were vaccinated in January and February were, in June, July, and the first half of August, six to 13 times more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people who were previously infected with the coronavirus. In one analysis, comparing more than 32,000 people in the health system, the risk of developing symptomatic COVID-19 was 27 times higher among the vaccinated, and the risk of hospitalization eight times higher.

    This time, the data leave little doubt that natural infection truly is the better option for protection against the delta variant, despite the fact that the US won’t acknowledge the already infected as having antibodies protecting them from the virus.

    As the first country to achieve widespread coverage by the vaccine, Israel is now in an unthinkable situation: daily case numbers have reached new record levels as the delta variant penetrates the vaccines’ protection like a hot knife slicing through butter.

    Source: Bloomberg

    At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic.

    “This analysis demonstrated that natural immunity affords longer-lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease, and hospitalization due to the delta variant,” the researchers said.

    Unfortunately, the study also showed that any protection is time-limited. The protection offered by natural infection wanes over time, just like the protection afforded by vaccines: The risk of a vaccine-breakthrough delta case was 13x higher than the risk of developing a second infection when the original illness occurred during January or February 2021. That’s significantly more than the risk for people who were ill earlier in the outbreak.

    What’s more, giving a single shot of the vaccine to those who had been previously infected also appeared to boost their protection. Still, the data don’t tell us anything about the long-term benefits of booster doses.

    This latest data showing the vaccines don’t offer anywhere near the 90%+ protection that was originally advertised by the FDA after the emergency authorization. Other studies are finding harmful side effects caused by the mRNA jabs are also more prevalent than previously believed.

    Read the study pre-print below:

    2021.08.24.21262415v1.full by Joseph Adinolfi Jr. on Scribd

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      1. Vaxxed or not, vitamins D,C, K and zinc are the nutritional foundations of a healthy immune system and natural immunity that can arise from surviving exposure and infection. Maybe add the B vitamins to that list, especially B1, but a healthy whole foods diet usually covers those.

        The problem with upper respiratory illness (URI) vaccines, whether against colds, influenzas, and now COVID, is that they are based on the last known variant of the virus.

        There has never been an effective cold vaccine, because colds constantly mutate over a season. Vaccines for the slower-changing flu, still relied on seeing what was prevalent in China and elsewhere, and predicting (not always accurately) which variant would likely hit North America.

        COVID-19 vaccines based on the 2019-20 original are obsolete by now; they are more treatments than preventative vaccines. Those based on the spike protein, ignored the other elements of the virus thus providing a back-door for successful variants.

        All government-enforced, elite-extorted COVID-1984 measures would, by common-sense application of known health science, increase likelihood of mass infection and death. Flattening the curve, always meant prolonging the epidemic and increasing the prevalence of successful variants.

        Most people are healthy by accident; lifestyle habits allow them to eat well and get plenty of fresh air and sunshine.

        Masking, collects and concentrates the pathogen load over the nose and mouth, while at the same time never able to fully filter out pathogens. Masking against viruses only works as part of a larger hygiene system as in hospitals, where masks are constantly changed, surfaces cleaned, and HVAC scrubs the air. (And hospitals still have problems with superbugs).

        Staying indoors, means constantly breathing stale air with its naturally higher pathogen load including indoor pollutants. Indoor living also reduces sunlight-creation of vitamin D in the skin, and most people don’t have the sense to supplement vitamin D even now.

        Lockdowns, destroy the economy so that most people can’t afford a healthy diet that includes lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, let alone high quality dietary supplements. They also experience heightened stress ad mental illness.

        Passports further divide society, and among the many, many problems with this totalitarian measure, give passport holders a false sense of security. Like claims the virus doesn’t exist, this is a psychological trick to get people to lower their guard and not take realistic precautions.

        Washing hands, not constantly touching the mouth, eyes and nose, not littering with medical waste like used kleenix and masks. These are practical measures over useless virtue-signalling social distancing.

        Eating whole foods over processed and GMO, ensure good nutrition. Vitamins D, C, K and zinc plus the B vitamins are still inexpensive and widely available supplements.

        Always apply common sense, like never, ever taking medications – especially antibiotics – NOT formulated for humans. Medications meant for non-human pet fish, dogs, etc. can make human beings very sick and can kill people.

      2. So if you want to be safe from Delta you need to go find someone with regular Covid and catch it from them.

      3. This doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, unless the Main Lame Stream Media puts it out there (because it’s what everyone “trusts” these days). And that’s not going to happen untill it affects them to a much greater degree (hell, it may never happen – in for a penny, in for a pound).
        They’ll probably link it to a “flawed” method of testing or someother BS excuse to not believe it.

        Search, Research, Search some more, Research even more. Find answers to questions everyone has, or just to your own. But, please share that knowledge as fast as you can, with as many as you can.

        (O)FIAWW

      4. I welcome the study, but the fact is, it replicates existing conclusions from other researchers (Nussensweig) who also do not confine a study to 1:1 spike-specific antibody comparisons of extremely narrow scope.

        If you rig the comparison, you can manufacture the result that you desire, and if you pretend falsely that declining antibodies represent fading immunity, you can scare people into accepting conclusions that are designed to ‘straddle the fence’, when it is not actually warranted. The problem with this particular study falls into the later camp as it offers a conclusion that –

        “Unfortunately, the study also showed that any protection is time-limited. The protection offered by natural infection wanes over time, just like the protection afforded by vaccines”

        This seems to me to be a deliberate ”bone thrown” to the vax/pharma/govt axis, to assert that eventually the vax will be inevitable, which is not at all accurate. In all infected individuals, the antibody levels fade after the virus is defeated, but the long-term reactive capacity still remains, in those with a functioning immune system, to repel future infection.

        In absolute fact, it did not require even a single study to assert definitively that the recovered would have a massive immunity advantage over the vaxxed, because the vaxxed have no immunity from the viral payload itself, which they have never come into contact with, let alone defeated with their own immune system capacity.

        The vaxxed have ONLY an artificially induced attempt at impeding the spike protein cellular breaching method, which -as fully expected and as fully shown IRL – fails once the spike even mildly mutates. The suggestion that the vaxxed – who have had ZERO contact with a viral payload – have greater immunity than those whose immune systems defeated the ACTUAL viral payload, is so nonsensical and fraudulent, that it can only be described as a fully deliberate lie and falsification.

        Murthy, Fauci, Collins, Walensky are basically the medical equivalent to the Bagram air base security planners, in that they are so compromised, failed and personally liable for delivery of inaccurate or false information, that no possible honest assessment can be undertaken until these actors are removed from their respective appointments.

        Getting them out is priority #1. Fauci is basically a ‘truth-arsonist’, who sets these nonsense or false ‘grass fires’ of conflict in order to get rational people to scramble to address each one, which keeps the focus off of his gain of function involvement.

        Fauci’s only means of self-preservation is getting everyone to fight over meaningless lies and nonsense, while the focus on the fact that all these actors are either-
        proven wrong, proven liars, proven to have potential liability in the creation of what they are now managing, or to have financial relationships with global pharma is swept from public view by the ‘grass fires’ they are deliberately setting.

        If we have learned anything at all from the tragic mismanagement of the Covid response by corrupt and/or untrustworthy public appointees, it should be that –
        anyone with financial ties to global pharma or trans-national research interests MUST, at all costs, be barred from public appointments that present them with capacity to abuse the public health interest.

      5. Because, facts end the ‘debate,’ which you are having with death cultists, commissars, and enablers. Debate. You are debating with these people, while they want you to take the kool-aid, too.

      6. The Jews are committing national suicide,who is calling the shots(no pun intended) in Israel? Why are they so sheepishly lining up for the kill shot? Maybe the False Prophet/Antichrist is there calling the shots but not yet publicly manifested. A remnant of the 12 tribe’s of Israel will chosen and be saved by the LORD JESUS CHRIST when He returns publicly to execute judgment against all ungodliness, and against all who refuse to submit to and obey the gospel of the glory of Christ. Jew and Gentile alike must repent of their sins and believe in the LORD JESUS CHRIST and be saved.
        Sinner,heed the warning voice,
        Make the Lord your final choice,
        Then all heaven will rejoice,
        Be in time!
        Come from darkness into light;
        Come let Jesus make you right;
        Come,receive His Life tonight,
        Be in time!

      7. This is a person who posts comments on this site using a variety of sign-in names like Darwin, karma, Chuckie, and a few others. We all see he is delusional because his comments show he cannot confront facts. And the poor guy apparently is so marinated in misery and self-hate all he can do is take everything personal and project that on others. I recommend to other commenters to just leave him alone and simply let him vent, it may be therapeutic for him. Besides, every site has a crank or two. You know when he attacks you it’s likely you are making sense, therefore in a way he is validating your comment.

        • Hi “Observer”! Thanks for the glowing recommendation! It is absolutely HILARIOUS that you guys think I’m the delusional one when you are the ones intentionally shunning lifesaving measures during a pandemic. I thought you morons were preppers. I should lead a master class in prepping, because I’m the only one here actually taking steps to save my own life.

          I’ve spent a year and a half doing absolutely everything I can to not get Covid, and I’ve come to realize that the only reason this virus is still amongst us is because you idiots refuse to help it end. So, knowing the mentality of MAGAt crowd and their general disregard for anyone that’s not them, I’ve landed on the decision to do everything I can to encourage you dumba$$es to continue refusing the jab and the mask. The way I figure it, you sh!t-for-brains losers will get the virus sooner rather than later, your lungs will shrivel up, and before long, you’ll be gasping for your last breath and begging your healthcare professionals to save you. I, meanwhile, will continue to live my cautious life and I will come out the other side of this nightmare as the “fittest” that Charles Darwin spoke of. The only people I feel sorry for in that scenario are the doctors and nurses who will have to babysit your stupid a$$es while you die.

          So, yeah, please keep thinking I’m delusional, or satan, or psychotic, or whatever makes you feel better. And make sure you take no other preventative measures other than praying to your sky daddy and the occasional dose of Ivermectin. I will continue to live by my newly adopted mantra, “The sooner they’re gone, the better.”

          Thanks for prolonging this pandemic, a$$holes. You’ll get yours in the end. Every one of you can f*ck all the way off. ??

        • I don’t agree with all the insults and profanity by poster “Karma/CD” but it’s refreshing to see a poster that’s not afraid to go against popular opinion here.
          Groupthink has taken over this board.
          This board needs healthy DEBATES not Groupthink.

          • Taco,
            I know that my profanity and insults are off-putting to the rational folks here, and for that I apologize, but I care not one bit for what the sheep being led off a cliff think of me or my correspondence. In fact, I mean every syllable and every word that I type. These people are scum and they deserve to be treated as such.

            The Covid-denying, vaccine and mask shunning MAGAt idiots have had ample time to take in the copious amounts of TRUE information out there about the scourge that continues to hold us all hostage. They have chosen to ignore it, and in A LOT of cases they have chosen to make things worse by spreading asinine conspiracy theories in order to justify their hate for the left and/or every other rational human being. I mean, these people truly believe that the entirety of the world’s doctors and scientists (aside from the quacks and grifters they choose to follow) have conspired to dupe the world’s population into believing the Covid virus is “fake news” and that the vaccinations created to fight it are the “death shot” which will cause the mass execution of humans worldwide. The utter stupidity and delusion of this way of thinking is staggering. I truly never thought human beings could be this stupid, but here we are.

            I have tried on multiple forums and social media outlets to rationally engage Covid deniers, mask-refusers, and vaccine skeptics only to be belittled, laughed at, threatened, etc. I am completely and thoroughly done with trying to convince these morons that doing the responsible thing will not only save their lives, but also the lives of those around them. They do not care about anyone but themselves. Their only concerns are for “owning the libs”, reinstating trump as President ?, and returning American to the “good old days” of racism, anti-semitism, misogyny, and LGBTQ+ hating. Most of these fools live delusional lives (fueled by the lies of the fascist, right-wing media and criminal politicians) bent on the extermination of anyone and anything progressive.

            These times in which we live are truly the most pivotal in American history. If we cannot get these mental midgets to understand the gravity of this pandemic (and it’s obvious we can’t), then it’s time to make sure they feel the full brunt of Covid for themselves. The only way we can return to normal society is for these doucheb@gs to either get on the trolley, or die a horrible death at the hands of Covid-19. I am 100% in favor of either scenario. However, knowing that these “people” support trump for the idiot-grifter, serial liar, and Covid-enabler that he is, my money is on helping these a$$holes meet their ultimate end. I hope they all get what’s coming to them.

            Stay in the fight, my friend. We are far from out of the woods with these reprehensible clowns. The worst, I fear, is yet to come.

            • Oh,I totally understand where you’re coming from.
              I was the recipient of insults, lectures, profanity,etc; last year when I said that I was going to trust my doctors that I’ve known for over 30 years.
              The “armchair medical experts” gang piled on me and called me every name under the sun.
              When I asked them to list the university where they obtained their PhD in Microbiology it only made matters worse.
              I quit trying to reach the paranoid after that.
              If they want to believe the misinformation circulating on the Internet let em’ go.
              They have lost touch with reality.
              The voices of reason have been drown out.
              Take care.

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