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Russia Will Respond To ANY U.S. Weapons Deployment In Europe

Mac Slavo
February 20th, 2019
SHTFplan.com
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Russian president Vladimir Putin has vowed to use force against the United States should the U.S. deploy any missile weapons in Europe.  Putin says the threat is necessary to protect Russia because U.S. weapons will be much closer to being able to destroy his country.

In what could be called Putin’s toughest remarks yet on a potential new arms race, the Russian president said Moscow was not seeking confrontation and would not take the first step to deploy missiles in response to Washington’s decision this month to quit a landmark Cold War-era arms control treaty.  But Putin would take action against the U.S. if the decision is made to deploy weapons in Europe.

According to NBC News, he said that U.S. policymakers, some of whom he said were obsessed with U.S. exceptionalism, should calculate the risks before taking any steps. Any decision by Washington to place new missiles in Europe would leave Moscow with no choice but to respond because it would drastically cut the time it took U.S. missiles to reach Russia, something that would pose a direct threat, Putin said.

“It’s their [U.S. politicians’] right to think how they want. But can they count? I’m sure they can. Let them count the speed and the range of the weapons systems we are developing,” Putin told Russia’s political elite to strong applause. “Russia will be forced to create and deploy types of weapons which can be used not only in respect of those territories from which the direct threat to us originates but also in respect of those territories where the centers of decision-making are located.”

Earlier this month, Washington politicians said the U.S. government was suspending its obligations under the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty and starting the process of quitting it, untying its hands to develop new missiles.  The ruling class claims Russia violated the treaty, while Russia denies doing so, but retaliated by also suspending its own obligations and quitting the pact more commonly known as the INF treaty.

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  1. george says:

    And the Lord said , gentlemen ,
    ” He who is without sin , let him cast the first stone.”

  2. Seminole Wind says:

    Oh-oh! A negative story about Russia, calling all Russian Trolls! Your FSB Comrades in St. Petersburg want no negative propaganda about Putin’s new USSR.

    Repeat after me, “America is evil, America causes all the World’s problems, Putin is the second coming of Christ…Trump must be stopped by all means ! ” (sarcasm)

  3. Mike says:

    The only way Russia is going to “respond” is by complaining to the UN. They have threatened to attack and bluffed so many times that none of their threats are taken seriously. They are a paper tiger.

    • Alex says:

      You are sadly mistaken 🙂 Russia doesn’t have to prove to you anything because you are nobody 🙂 Russia can and will eliminate any enemy from the face of the Earth in no time (because it has weapons US can only dream of), but it will never show this force until it is actually needed. If you have any doubts, take a look at the real history of WW2, hopefully it would be enough to realise how pathetic and primitive your conclusions are.

      • Ronald E Beal says:

        The US continues to treat Russia as a retarded step-child! They have weapons superior to the US- cloaked fighters- silent subs and multi-head missiles which can be programmed in flight. Putin has told his people that never again will a foreign army set foot on Russian soil. He doesn’t need a large ground army- he can and will melt anyone attempting to kill his people. At this writing, Sen. Lindsey Graham,(NC) in Germany attempting to get Germany and other countries to agree to an alliance with the US for an attack on Russia! These people are insane! One blathering general said a war with Russia would be over in two weeks!! Insane.

    • kovran says:

      expelled from exceptional Swedes, Poles, Turks, French, German exceptional race with accomplices and villains, Experience a huge

    • Rocky Mountain Nancy says:

      “Paper Tiger”, are they? You must be an American! One of those Americans who were raised to believe that you guys “won” WWII. We, Europeans, know better. Take this quick quiz…where was the Eastern front when the U.S. hit the beaches in Normandy? Answer…almost to the German borders. The Russian, “Red” army had already pushed the Nazi back almost a thousand miles before the Americans joined the war. As the British Prime Minister said, “If the U.S. doesn’t hit the beaches of France, the Russians will go all the way to the Atlantic Ocean”. Quiz question #2. How many German divisions did the U.S. and Russian armies defeat? U.S. defeated 78 divisions…the Russian army defeated 246!! The Germans were defeated before the U.S. entered the war, but you can keep telling yourselves that you won the war…the rest of the world knows what fantasies you guys live in.

    • THe Preacher says:

      Mike, look in the mirror and admit it: You are a fool.

  4. Anonymous says:

    Jesus will fix this mess.

  5. Justice says:

    OFF TOPIC: I have wanted to bring this up for a longtime. Entertainment during SHTF.

    In One Word: VUDU

    Did you know that you can put your DVD on their cloud service for $2.00 each. Blue-rays are $5.00. Then you can down load them to a removable Memory Card. Then you have them available regardless of the grid or the Internet.

    All you have to do in have enough power to keep a Notepad or notebook going. These require a lot less energy to run than a monitor and blueray/dvd player. I can easily power a notepad 24/7 with solar and various power storage devices.

    Also, if you look for sales you can get Bundles and TV series reasonably price.

    Anyone who has lost power for an extended time knows the burden that boredom presents! It is an issue that is not really addressed in the prepper community.

    • rellik says:

      Justice,
      “Anyone who has lost power for an extended time knows the burden that boredom presents!”
      That is what books are for. I have a few hundred.
      I even have 4 bibles, three were inherited.
      Chess, board games, and several decks of cards.
      A honey do list of over 100 items.
      I’m not bored ever.

      • Justice says:

        rellik, I hear you. As I get older I cannot earn my keep by plow’n the field anymore. Also, most of my knowledge is useless book learn’n. So I’m look’n for a potential revenue stream in a SHTF situation.

        Consequently, I will bring back the Movie Theater. People and especially kids will go throught terrible withdraw. I will have what they’re joenes’n for.

        Most importantly I will be able to watch re-runs of Gilligan’s Island for;(1) valuable survival knowledge and (2) see what real beauty is (ie Mary Anne). With regards to the second point women will not be look’n to good without showers and makeup and hair care. Think about it!

      • grandee says:

        ok prepper peeps,

        do we really think, if it’s TEOTWAWKI, there is gonna be time to play games and read books??

        Not for a while anyway.

        No matter what the season, we will be working. Back breaking work just to put food on the table and keeping firewood cut and standing watch.

        If there is any down time, you’ll be sacked out to recover for tomorrows grueling tasks.

        • Justice says:

          grandee, it good to see you posting again. But wait up a second, nobody told me that the apocalypse means that “we will be working. Back breaking work just to put food on the table and keeping firewood cut and standing watch”.

          If that’s true, then “Jane stop this crazy thing”!

    • TheGuy says:

      Entertainment during SHTF:

      1. Distance projectile vomiting contest
      2. Painting with dysentery!
      3. The ever popular severed head polo…

  6. Maranatha says:

    Right this second, if Russia wanted to, we could have perpetual peace and security by developing mutually beneficial diplomatic agreements that provide for economic and scientific exchanges. But Russia won’t do it and neither will China.

    Since 1898, the USA has not gained a square inch of territory. There is NO AMERICAN EMPIRE. Quite the opposite as we consistently give back hard won territory from war.

    In the same time, China grew in size and Russia grew into the USSR. And only due to the fall of the Berlin Wall and the bankrupting of the Soviet Empire, did it fall apart.

    So who is really causing massive TRILLIONS in wasted money, time, skills, and resources but COMMUNISTS. The same COMMUNISTS who have sown discord around the world. The same COMMUNISTS responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.

    If the Communists would change, the world could be a utopia and we could end proxy wars. Do you see nations wanting to join the Warsaw Pact or Chinese protection, or do you see them lining up to acquire NATO status?

    • Maranatha says:

      Is there anyone who thinks the USA would ever use a first strike attack against Russia or China? I doubt it. Why would we? We have zero interest in gaining eitherbterritory and zero chance of a positive outcome and even were it plausible, we could never afford to invade either place without 100 years of occupation.

      But I can certainly see either Russia or China using a first strike attack.

      Heck in the seventies, the Russians were so obsessed by this first strike attack from the US that they created a deadman system so that an automated retaliation would then counterstrike the USA.

      ht tps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand
      ht tps://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-dead-hand-nuclear-doomsday-weapon-back-38492

      • Maranatha says:

        All it would take is a madman inside Russia to trigger the Dead Hand system, and the Russians themselves would be taken out of the equation, and this computerized doomesday weapon would be unstopable. It’s complete insanity because they are paranoid. The USA does not want Russian territory. There is no juice in it.

        Imagine hypersonics and satellite weapons and every ICBM and EMP and Chemical and germwarfare all being released by computerized control with no ability to shut it off.

        • Maranatha says:

          What is worse is Russia is actively wanting computer controlled submarines with nuclear weapons and underwater drones that are automated as well.

          They have lost their mind because all these former Warsaw Pact nations have joined NATO.

          Those nuclear subs with nuclear missiles are extremely dangerous because extremely wise commanders can launch with full strike capability in 15 minutes. With full computer control, that time will be shaved down so much that it might be impossible to stop.

          If the Russians have hypersonics, automated underwater drones and computerized nuclear subs, then the USA has to have them. Russia is starting a new nuclear arms race.

          • Maranatha says:

            http s://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russian-undersea-nuclear-drone-operational

            Russians just put the Poseidon first strike underwater drone in operation.

            • Anonymous says:

              All in all, it is an artful argument that begins by blaming Russia’s response to Washington’s provocations for a dangerous situation and concludes with the argument that Washington must adjust to Russia’s defense of her own national interests.

              It is reassuring to see some realism creeping back into Washington attitudes toward Russia. However, realism is still a minority view, and it is highly unlikely that it would be the view of a Hillary regime.

              In my opinion, the chance of nuclear war from Neoconservative intention, miscalculation or false launch warning remains high. The provocations of US/NATO military forces and missile bases on Russia’s borders are reckless as they build tensions between nuclear powers. It is in times of tension that false warnings are believed and miscalculations occur. In the interest of life on earth, Washington should be de-escalating tensions with Russia, not building them. So far there is no sign that the Neoconservatives are willing to give up their hegemonic agenda for the sake of life on earth.

              • Kevin2 says:

                Anonymous

                ” It is in times of tension that false warnings are believed and miscalculations occur.”

                I agree with your entire post above and as a student of history I know of the close calls, very close calls that have occurred. The book Doomsday Machine by Daniel Ellsberg should be required reading. Interestingly they occurred by both the USSR and US. The world can thank both Kennedy and Khrushchev for not listing to their respective “Military Advisors”. Both faced a military that was going somewhat rogue in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

          • TheGuy says:

            I’ll take it further than that, given the situation you just brought up in my head. If Russia leaves Dead Hand on for any length of time, they’re absolutely making an EMP + first strike against them a global imperative.

            Like… it has to happen.

            This is like the crazy guy with the AR walks into a liquor store but way, way, way worse. You can sit there and gape and get shot when he even unintentionally twitches around and fires on you, or you can rush him and maybe get shot. “Maybe” is better than “certainly”.

            And to my way of thinking what they’re pretty… much doing… given… how the thing is instructed to trigger… is essentially copying the keys to their nuclear football and throwing them out into the rest of the world randomly.

          • TheGuy says:

            The entire concept of Dead Hand made sense in a unipolar world. It’s a horrifically unstable concept at this point.

            Basically, that’s not so much “Russia’s” nuclear arsenal anymore. Nor is it “Skynet’s”, I’m not arguing that.

            Think of how easy it is to match it’s launch conditions.

            Which means it’s anyone’s.

        • TheGuy says:

          Now that you mention it… it’s even worse than that. “A madman”… oh. Boy. That just popped the scenario into my head and it’s not pretty. I don’t want to say because I’m that scared of it.

          Put it this way, you’re thinking along the lines of an insider… me not so much…

      • Anonymous says:

        Ummm.. like many, many people in the US believe the US would risk a first strike against Russia. Check out Paul Craig Roberts’ website for one… and the Saker… and Global Research, for a few examples. MANY people believe the US government would risk a fist strike against Russia. And obviously, Russia believes it as well.

        As far as the dead hand you mentioned, its here in the US as well as in Russia!!!! Russia and the US BOTH have this horrible system!!! Read Paul Craig Roberts articles!!

        I just read it the other day about the dead hand system, which BOTH THE US AND RUSSIA HAS!!!

        Also, Russia is NOT dead set on a first strike against the US– you must get your so called “information” on the TV– you must be a troll!!

        • Maranatha says:

          No dingdong. I barely watch any tv. I read articles online.

          The USA will never use first strike capabilty with Russia or China because there is no reason to. There would be a reason to use it in Iran. North Korea is an impossible intolerable situation.

          I’m a John Bircher not a grotesque neocon. If I had my way, I’d stop defending Europe and Asia because doing so is what is causing the tension plus they don’t respect us.

        • TheGuy says:

          And Russia is effing making it happen…

          Look I’ve been anti first strike since like essentially forever but Vlad, you’re making me re-think my drink here. I’m really not comfy with this.

      • Kevin2 says:

        “Is there anyone who thinks the USA would ever use a first strike attack against Russia or China? I doubt it.”

        Read “The Doomsday Machine” by Daniel Ellsberg who was a nuclear war planner. MAD was bullshit for public consumption. First Strike was and has been the US strategy.

        • Maranatha says:

          No, it’s in the contingency plans but every cockamamie idea is in the contingency plans. Mutually Assured Destruction prevents the USA from ever using a first strike as it would be entirely pointless even with an ideal Star Wars plan and Rods of God working overtime. Sub based would still get through and enough would not only irradiate the USA but make agriculture impossible

          The craziest idea was suitcase nukes strapped to paratroopers who were expected to sacrifuce themselves and that of course would end up drifting and harming our own guys amd then inevitaby cascade into full scale armageddon.

          • TheGuy says:

            Missile defense systems: why are they still trying to hit a bullet with a bullet? Even if you had the software to do it, stuff happens man.

            Anyone ever heard of Genie missiles? That was more the right idea… unfortunately…

          • Kevin2 says:

            Actually it is. The accepted attitude is that there is far more concern being caught “flat footed” than preventing an unnecessary launch. Even more interesting (and frightening) was the circumstances when authorization for use goes down the chain of command. It’s not “the football” and exclusively the Commander In Chief depending upon circumstances. Regardless the US policy is not to absorb the first hit.

      • THe Preacher says:

        You are a fool’s FOOL

    • Kevin2 says:

      I don’t know where to start so I’ll start here.

      ” There is NO AMERICAN EMPIRE.”

      Interestingly that is somewhat correct. The Empire is the globalist internationalists. The US dollar retains its “unique privilege” of the reserve currency by force (Iraq & Libya). The US invades nations that have not attacked it in complete violation of international law and the supposed “free world” is silent. They’re vassal states. The US military is the spearpoint for the above. Ya think the US has 800+ military bases around the globe (while Russia has 2) for defense?

      News Flash, Russia is many things, it’s however not communist.

      • Maranatha says:

        Not only are they communist, there is talk hardliners want to reform the USSR.

        For the last three years, the Russians made it illegal to share the Gospel outside of a church. You can be jailed there so don’t believe every santized propaganda you read.

        • TheGuy says:

          The former head of the KGB is running the place…

          I mean.

          Really? Not communist?

        • Kevin2 says:

          Do you understand what communism is? Its government ownership of the means of production. That ended with the collapse of the USSR. They have oligarchs who Putin does battle with. Their oligarchs are doing there best to join with ours. ya see the Us is a plutocratic oligarchy. Don’t take my word for it. News Flash, you don’t control your government.

          h ttps://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

          Soros is banned from Russia for good reason.

        • Maranatha, the Russians are building 100’s of Christian churches to replace the ones destroyed by the commies under the USSR. Quit watching CNN and FOX.

          • Maranatha says:

            They are building Orthodox churches and putting evangelicals in JAIL for witnessing. That has been going on for THREE YEARS. That has been reported by the US State Department and faith based media.

            Wake up.

            • Maranatha says:

              ht tps://www.christianpost.com/voice/preaching-the-gospel-is-now-illegal-in-russia-can-we-still-be-a-light.html

              Putin is an antichrist who like others before him subverted the Russian Orthodox clergy and during the 70-90s actively spied on Christians using clergy.

              • Maranatha says:

                ht tps://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

                Update (July 8): This week, Russian president Vladimir Putin approved a package of anti-terrorism laws that usher in tighter restrictions on missionary activity and evangelism.

                Despite prayers and protests from religious leaders and human rights advocates, the Kremlin announced Putin’s approval yesterday. The amendments, including laws against sharing faith in homes, online, or anywhere but recognized church buildings, go into effect July 20.

                Though opponents to the new measures hope to eventually appeal in court or elect legislators to amend them, they have begun to prepare their communities for life under the new rules, reported Forum 18 News Service, a Christian outlet reporting on the region.

                Protestants and religious minorities small enough to gather in homes fear they will be most affected. Last month, “the local police officer came to a home where a group of Pentecostals meet each Sunday,” Konstantin Bendas, deputy bishop of the Pentecostal Union, told Forum 18. “With a contented expression he told them: ‘Now they’re adopting the law I’ll drive you all out of here.’ I reckon we should now fear such zealous enforcement.”

                “There are potentially very wide-sweeping ramifications to this law,” Joel Griffith of the Slavic Gospel Association said in a Mission Network News report. “It just depends on, again, how it is going to be enforced, and that is a very huge question mark.”

              • Maranatha says:

                htt ps://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/feb/12/1

                A secret Soviet-era document uncovered in Estonia suggests that Patriarch Alexy II, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church and spiritual leader of tens of millions of Christians, was a fully fledged KGB agent.

                Accusations that Alexy, elected Patriarch in 1990, co-operated closely with the KGB under the code name ‘Drozdov’ (Thrush), have circulated since a parliamentary commission was allowed a brief peek at secret police files in Moscow in 1991.

                But the Estonian text is the first publicly available document to support the theory that Alexy was more than a mere collaborator and that from 1958 he was an active agent, using the KGB as a career ladder at a time when the secret police persecuted organised religion.

                The Russian Orthodox Church claims the document is a forgery but has made no attempt to disprove its authenticity. The Patriarch has made no comment.

      • Kevin2 says:

        When an action occurs once it may be an accidental outcome. When said action is repeated its on purpose. Iran had a functioning government overthrown with the subsequent so called government fragmented. That will be the last time that nation challenges taking the US dollar as exclusive payment for their oil. Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa, Christians were protected by law by the government. They decided to sell their oil in a newly based gold backed currency and abandon the US dollar as exclusive payment. Low and behold the US uses its air power to help Islamic Fundamentalists overthrow Libya. Now it has a Somalia like existence. This successive government is fragmented and this will be the last time any of this non US dollar for oil will occur. See a pattern here? Syria, once again a nation that protects Christians, ISIS is formed and transported there to overthrow that nation. There is an oil/gas pipeline dispute. Who is arming ISIS? It’s not Russia, It’ s not Iran (ISIS is an enemy of both), its not China. Who wants Syria overthrown? The US, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Who is arming ISIS, give ya three guesses.

        Spare me your blind analysis.

        • Maranatha says:

          Wow, going unabashedly pro-Libyan on a prepper site. Seriously?

          • Kevin2 says:

            Challenge what I said:

            1. The US used its air power to facilitate Islamic Fundamentalists overthrowing Libya.

            2. Libya protected its Christian minority.

            3. Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa.

            4.Libya, like Iraq before it was abandoning the US dollar as exclusive payment for its oil. This is known as “The Oil Peg” and its the cornerstone of the US EMPIRE through the globalists.

            5. Interestingly when Venezuela started taking Chinese currency for their oil the rathe of the globalists economically isolated Venezuela with the INTENT of causing pain on the civilian population to facilitate an overthrow of the government.

            Challenge any or all of the above.

    • TheGuy says:

      Why should they do it?

      All it would do is perpetuate us in existence as we siphon off free information from them.

      I don’t think you quite get just how much they don’t like us. I’m sure they’ll be happy enough to share with each other once we’ve been reduced to a 5th world sh.. hole.

    • kovran says:

      You have the same problem that the German exceptional nation was by. Take care of yourself and your economy, not wars all over the world. 17 years of war with the shepherds of Afghanistan, and when will peace come?

    • Ronald E Beal says:

      The US continues to treat Russia as a retarded step-child! They have weapons superior to the US- cloaked fighters- silent subs and multi-head missiles which can be programmed in flight. Putin has told his people that never again will a foreign army set foot on Russian soil. He doesn’t need a large ground army- he can and will melt anyone attempting to kill his people. At this writing, Sen. Lindsey Graham,(NC) in Germany attempting to get Germany and other countries to agree to an alliance with the US for an attack on Russia! These people are insane! One blathering general said a war with Russia would be over in two weeks!! Insane.

  7. Or maybe just have some books which last for centuries even without batteries. I have years worth of reading material now that I just don’t have time for.

  8. kovran says:

    expelled from exceptional Swedes, Poles, Turks, French, German exceptional race with accomplices and villains, Experience a huge

  9. Mr. Natural says:

    Always a potentially great day for mankind and the planet when people with large egos and nuclear weapons start playing the ‘my dick is bigger than yours’ game.

  10. Maranatha says:

    Meanwhile North Korea has made even more nuclear warheads.
    And Iran abandoned the US agreement that idiot Obama created.
    And Saudi Arabia has nuclear ambitions.

    Right this second, India and Pakistan are saber-rattling, and they could start a small scale exchange.

    Crazed jihadists could use cargo carriers as more than 25 trucks of material has been stolen in Mexico and you can bet they bought it. So using a dirtybomb could trigger WW3.

    It’s not just the superpowers but any of the above that could cause an issue.

    Don’t forget some insane Ukrainians allegedly tried using a suitcase nuke on a bridge a few months ago though it wasn’t made widely known.

    • Maranatha says:

      Allegedly this is the kind some insane Ukranian tried to use. The other rumor was it was actually Al Quaeda.

      htt ps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Atomic_Demolition_Munition

      We will never actually know what happened and how close a call it was. Allegedly we went very high on the DEFCON scale until it was handled.

    • Maranatha says:

      ht tps://www.foxnews.com/world/truck-carrying-radioactive-material-stolen-in-mexico-9-states-on-high-alert
      The Mexicans have been criminally negligent and this is only one such case.

    • Maranatha says:

      ht tps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47296641
      A little blurb on Saudi Arabia getting some favorabke status to explore nuclear power but then they reneged on promises it wouldn’t be for weaponry.

      Don’t forget that some Muslims want to trigger a nuclear event so that might fulfill prophecy that the 12th Imam/Mahdi would then come user in a new Islamic Age. It’s not just Iran but Turkey has been vocal about that possibility.

      • Kevin2 says:

        The task of enriching uranium or separating plutonium from spent nuclear fuel requires very significant facilities that cannot be hid even in a closed nation.

      • TheGuy says:

        And right here you’ve just pointed out the problem with Dead Hand.

        If I’m not mistaken, one of the triggers is a seismic event interpreted as a nuclear detonation.

        Simply put, if you’re desperate and have nothing to live for, you don’t need “a bunch of nukes”. You need one.

        Congratulations you now own the entire Russian nuclear arsenal.

    • kovran says:

      and they have a way out? An example of Libya
      Syria, Iraq before the eyes when the state was destroyed, and people were driven into poverty. International laws are destroyed and the only hope for a nuclear bomb.

  11. rellik says:

    Generally due to technology
    the world is getting richer.
    Except Africa and Moslems as
    they are too stupid to do anything
    except butcher each other.
    War is bad for business when executed.
    Preparations for war is very lucrative.
    We are getting to the point where
    large scale traditional warfare is
    just too deadly to contemplate
    except by nut case
    Moslems and the mentally ill.
    Anybody that thinks Russia will nuke D.C or NYC,
    or LA is nuts. Russia, indeed the world
    knows those decision centers are far more
    dangerous to America than any Nuke they
    could launch.

    • Kevin2 says:

      “War is bad for business when executed.”

      Actually war in small scale is intriguingly linked to business. Nations with resources that are out of favor with the globalist plan (oil peg for instance) are systematically destroyed with the subsequent government becoming far more accommodating. The lesson is that stable governments can cause a problem. Unstable governments do your bidding (especially when the CIA & MI5 are behind the instability). The ignorant ISIS nut job is too ideologically blinded and ignorant to realize that they are doing the bidding for Israel.

  12. Maranatha says:

    ht tps://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/how-prepared-are-india-pakistan-for-war-1460370-2019-02-20

    In April 2018, there was a rumor that something like 80+ Russian suitcase nukes were unaccounted for that had been made in the Soviet era.

  13. Maranatha says:

    Mac, here’s some intel about an Arizona UFO event you could make into an article.

    ht tp://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/19095/listen-in-as-a-learjet-and-an-airbus-encounter-a-mystery-craft-high-over-arizona

  14. meh…who needs all these fancy nuclear weapons. Too expensive.

    Just hire some bearded guys in caves and FedEx em some box cutters.

  15. Anonymous says:

    From Global Research–

    Military-industrial complex – Eisenhower

    While many Americans consider it heretical to question the U.S. military, none other than a five-star military general and U.S. president did just that. In an extraordinary farewell speech in 1961, Eisenhower went on national TV and said, “we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”

    Such a speech would now be derided as a conspiracy theory and even labeled as treasonous.

    CIA – Truman

    Guess who thought that the CIA had turned into an American Gestapo? Harry Truman, the US president who created the CIA. He said in his biography, “Those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars, they go out and make their own (wars), and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble. The CIA has become a government all of its own.”

    Former Director of the CIA, William Colby, described CIA’s culture in his memoiras follows: “cult of intelligence … that held itself to be above the normal processes of society, with its own rationale and justification, beyond the restraints of the Constitution …”

    Election meddling and coups by the CIA

    Since World War II, the CIA has meddled in more than 80 foreign elections around the world (doesn’t include coups and regime changes!).

    The US Senate’s Church Committee in 1975 documented several instances of US meddling in other nations. The operations included suitcases of cash to bribe politicians and voters, manuals for psychological warfare, sensational fake news, organized mass protests, armed violent oppositions etc.

    Starting in the 1980’s, the Deep State refined its plans for regime changes, resorting to the use of sophisticated NGO’s such as the USAID, NED and Open Society Foundations of George Soros, which all specialize in mass propaganda and color revolutions.

    When asked a few months ago, if we still meddle in other countries’ elections, CIA director James Woolsey grinned and responded, “myum, myum, myum.”

    There are incontrovertible proofs for some of the coups, thanks to declassified CIA documents – for example, the overthrow of democratically elected leaders in Iran in 1953 and in Guatemala in 1954.

    Assassinations

    Recently released “JFK Files” from the CIA archives show detailed plans to assassinate Fidel Castro that included exploding cigars and tuberculosis-laced diving suit. Other leaders targeted in these documents include General Trujillo of Dominican Republic and Patrice Lumumba of Congo.

    William Blum has done extensive research and documented numerous foreign assassinations – successful and attempted – by the CIA and/or the US military.

    Theoretically, nothing stops the killing machine in operating within the US. Even intellectuals like David Talbot – founder of Salon magazine and editor of Time Magazine – are convinced that some from the top echelons of the CIA assassinated JFK.

    President Truman also seemed to suggest the same when he wrote an extraordinary op-ed in Washington Post one month after JFK’s assassinationsaying that CIA’s covert operations must be terminated.

    By the way, the phrase “conspiracy theorist” was invented by the CIA in 1967 to discredit anyone challenging the official narratives!

  16. Anonymous says:

    CIA – Truman

    Guess who thought that the CIA had turned into an American Gestapo? Harry Truman, the US president who created the CIA. He said in his biography, “Those fellows in the CIA don’t just report on wars, they go out and make their own (wars), and there’s nobody to keep track of what they’re up to. They spend billions of dollars on stirring up trouble. The CIA has become a government all of its own.”

    Former Director of the CIA, William Colby, described CIA’s culture in his memoiras follows: “cult of intelligence … that held itself to be above the normal processes of society, with its own rationale and justification, beyond the restraints of the Constitution …”

    Election meddling and coups by the CIA

    Since World War II, the CIA has meddled in more than 80 foreign elections around the world (doesn’t include coups and regime changes!).

    The US Senate’s Church Committee in 1975 documented several instances of US meddling in other nations. The operations included suitcases of cash to bribe politicians and voters, manuals for psychological warfare, sensational fake news, organized mass protests, armed violent oppositions etc.

    Starting in the 1980’s, the Deep State refined its plans for regime changes, resorting to the use of sophisticated NGO’s such as the USAID, NED and Open Society Foundations of George Soros, which all specialize in mass propaganda and color revolutions.

    When asked a few months ago, if we still meddle in other countries’ elections, CIA director James Woolsey grinned and responded, “myum, myum, myum.”

    There are incontrovertible proofs for some of the coups, thanks to declassified CIA documents – for example, the overthrow of democratically elected leaders in Iran in 1953 and in Guatemala in 1954.

    Assassinations

    Recently released “JFK Files” from the CIA archives show detailed plans to assassinate Fidel Castro that included exploding cigars and tuberculosis-laced diving suit. Other leaders targeted in these documents include General Trujillo of Dominican Republic and Patrice Lumumba of Congo.

    William Blum has done extensive research and documented numerous foreign assassinations – successful and attempted – by the CIA and/or the US military.

    Theoretically, nothing stops the killing machine in operating within the US. Even intellectuals like David Talbot – founder of Salon magazine and editor of Time Magazine – are convinced that some from the top echelons of the CIA assassinated JFK.

    President Truman also seemed to suggest the same when he wrote an extraordinary op-ed in Washington Post one month after JFK’s assassinationsaying that CIA’s covert operations must be terminated.

    By the way, the phrase “conspiracy theorist” was invented by the CIA in 1967 to discredit anyone challenging the official narratives!

    Coddling dictators and tyrants

    Right now, the U.S. arms/funds about 3 in 4 of all dictators around the world! How’s that for spreading freedom and democracy? The U.S. has supported and installed numerous brutal tyrants and authoritarians all over the world in the last century. Suharto in Indonesia, for example, killed two million people, but was loved by the West, since he let western corporations exploit his people and plunder his

  17. Anonymous says:

    The above is from Global Research.

    • Maranatha says:

      Global Research is a Russian op. Come on. Look it up.

      • Maranatha says:

        Almost every piece out of Global Redraft is Pro-Russian and they even held a recent annual meeting of contributors in Russia.

        Give me a break. It’s like reading Tass and Pravda.

      • I looked it up and cannot find any Russian funding. The website is based in Canada and the founder is a Canadian professor in Ottawa. It is a news aggregator website and accepts articles from everywhere. And don’t steer me to that bullshit “quora” site for so-called proof. That graph they have laid out there is hilarious.

        As far as propaganda goes, any opinion piece is designed to reflect the beliefs of the author and is propaganda…including Fox News and Bart Bright and most of the rest of the entertainment “news” op-eds. Even though they are touted as news, most of it is not.

        Here’s some truth. People will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people’s minds.

        • rellik says:

          JRS,
          “Here’s some truth. People will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people’s minds”.
          Well stated!
          Unless someone has an Epiphany, people don’t seek truth.
          The real question is how to deal with idiots that will not
          learn or change?
          I have lessons from history and it isn’t very good for the idiots,
          that being law obedient people. I only obey ten laws. Everything else is optional and depends on the nature of the terrain.

          • Kevin2 says:

            rellik

            “I only obey ten laws. Everything else is optional and depends on the nature of the terrain.”

            They actually have a legal term for that. Malum In Se which is inherently evil or wrong and Malum Prohibitum which is illegal because government says so. I’m a stickler for adherence to the former not only the letter but also the intent. The latter? Well as you say, “depends”.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Unfortunately, whenever I try to copy and paste the article, a completely DIFFERENT article shows up!! It seems I can’t copy and paste anything really incriminating against the US government anymore… I think the Internet– at least here in this library– has been taken over. Goodbye to our Constitutional rights. we now live in Nazi land. (I tried and tried to copy that article at Global Research and it will not let me copy it!!??!!) Also, I can no longer go to Paul Craig Roberts website!!! I haven’t been able to in ages!!! At least not here in this Nazi library!!! Heil Hitler!!

  19. Anonymous says:

    I can’t copy and paste the real article I intended to show you because this library computer is run by the deep state, I guess…. I can’t go to paul craig Roberts site anymore either– not from thjis damn computer!!! he is too outspoken! truth is now outlawed!!!

  20. THe Preacher says:

    re Russia will responf to Any US Waepons

    BEST NEWS I’ve heard in a long time!

    It’ll be even better if Vlad gets to “test” a few of those Hypersonic Missiles on the District Of Criminals!

  21. reper sleepr says:

    Some of you need to bypass the Nat’Enquire rag in the Walmart check-out line. Has it been that long for some here to remember the Cuban missile crisis? We didn’t like it when the Kremlin was gonna set them up there so what makes us so special? We’re having a real problem now with the communists (some people call them socialists but as far as I’m concerned they are commies, and we need to get a hold on them here first. The USSR doesn’t want a war that is either a stalemate or a defeat. So we need to stop poking the bear and start kicking the asses of those here in our faces now.

  22. Beaumont 2.0 says:

    Russia apparently has assets in South and Central America and the Caribbean, and even said there were “mole” things, dug into the coast lines, while complaining that a hegemonic US was surrounding them. It was a famous saying that the Communists would attack through our ‘soft underbelly’. (Southern border?) But, the people at Russia’s southern border are supposed to be war criminals for that.

    There is a propaganda poster which says, if Russian doesn’t want war, she shouldn’t have put her country so close to our bases. Can’t there be an anti-Communist version of the same poster.

  23. Kevin2 says:

    Beaumont 2.0

    “Russia apparently has assets in South and Central America and the Caribbean”

    WTF? a few hundred security personnel in Venezuela are not an invasion make. Russia has two bases outside of Russia, the US has 800 around the world.

    “Communists would attack through our ‘soft underbelly’.

    Please read the definition of communism. Its government ownership of the means of production. Russia is not communist. Regardless you got to meet HICKS who knows of a phantom Chinese army, devoid of logistical support, in Mexico, posed for a US invasion.

    You guys 14 year old kids?

    • Beaumont 2.0 says:

      Yet, 19 intercepted firearms were considered an invasion.

      In general, the world is divided into three kinds of countries —
      Aligned with the West
      Aligned with the East
      non-aligned / neutral

      There is nothing fantastical, at all, in saying that the failed states of the southern hemisphere, are on life support, courtesy of the East Bloc, which shares their political beliefs.

      Walk a nice dog, on a nice harness, in a pressed shirt, in a blue state, and some of their assets will gladly identify themselves, to you, without missing a single beat.

  24. Kevin2 says:

    Beaumont 2.0

    “There is nothing fantastical, at all, in saying that the failed states of the southern hemisphere, are on life support, courtesy of the East Bloc, which shares their political beliefs.”

    Regardless Russia has no invasion resources in this hemisphere. The same can’t be said close to their border. Failed states have a multitude of reasons and an oil producer, abandoning the US dollar as exclusive payment is literally the kiss of death. Venezuela was economically isolated with the INTENT of fostering a revolution. Use the US dollar or else. Africa? It’s not politically correct but capitalist, communist, dictatorship or fledging democracy Africans can’t govern. The most Nobel experiment was Liberia. Interestingly using the accepted definition of socialism, a cradle to grave welfare system, is in effect in Saudi Arabia that has more people than Venezuela and spends considerably more on its
    military. Saudi is doing fine but it’s assets weren’t frozen nor was it economically forcibly isolated. Little is as it appears and even less comes out of official sources for public consumption.

    • Beaumont 2.0 says:

      I don’t mind a little, civil discussion, but how are we to know what Russia has; dual use tech has been for sale, according to the public domain.

      One conspiracy theory has directed people, online, to ocean radar maps, indicating weird flotillas. fwiw.

      • Kevin2 says:

        Invasion forces can’t be hid, they eat, use fuel and have equipment. The US spends $700 billion/yr while Russia spends $66 billion/yr. US has 800 bases outside of the US, Russia has 2.

        They’re threatened by us, Trump tried to reverse this trend and MIC with the media, Neo-cons and Neo-liberals are all over him.

        Eisenhower warned us Jan 17th 1961

        • Beaumont 2.0 says:

          Communist invasion forces can apparently be hidden in the plain sight of people telling us not to believe our lying eyes — whether they are abroad, in an openly-Communist country, or if they are poorly-integrated, here, and noone will admit to the Communism. What does it look like, in your opinion?

          I think, Communist invasion forces have vandalized every public setting and social institution, since Jussie’s forebear, MLK. (Seriously. Exactly when did sjw vandalism become a problem in this country. Before or after card carrying Communists, who self-identified as Communists. It can be said, literally.)

          In terms of hot war or MAD, Putin is flippant or talks like a martyr, at the prospect.

          k said, “Eisenhower warned us Jan 17th 1961”

          The Russian analysis, after they take credit for liberating the concentration camps, is the problem was caused by a parallel society or state-within-a-state, that destabilized Germany.

          In that line of reasoning, there is no effective difference between the independently-rich bourgeoisie, living their stereotypical middle-class lives, or the Deep State. For-profit business, itself, would be the military-industrial complex, in competition against the formal tax regime.

          Did you bring your own school lunch, or get the free meal. Did you have two parents, with cars, so were not allowed the work opportunity, in school. Was it a private school, for instance. Or, was it Communist. Maybe, Eisenhower was talking about you.

  25. Kevin2 says:

    You can’t hide an invasion force. The idea of such in this hemisphere is ridiculous.

  26. Maranatha says:

    Sound familiar? If your sources come from global research then of course it’s anti-NATO and anti-USA by design.

    ht tps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/nato-research-centre-sets-sights-on-canadian-website-over-pro-russian-disinformation/article37015521/#15507428675152

    ht tps://meduza.io/en/feature/2015/08/14/the-kremlin-s-manichaean-delusion

    What makes GlobalResearch.ca different from other similar websites is the disproportional weight it enjoys in news coverage by the Russian state media. Global Research is prominently featured as the only source in numerous stories by Russia’s leading newswire RIA Novosti, where it’s referred to as a “think tank” or “publication” whose “experts” or “journalists” regularly reveal or uncover some fact that fits into the Kremlin’s current foreign policy agenda. RIA ‘s latest story based on content that appeared on GlobalResearch.ca is titled “Media Uncovered a US Resolution that ‘Recognizes’ Donbass’ Sovereignty,” and refers to the
    Captive Nations resolution, otherwise known as Public Law 86-90, adopted in 1959 by US President Dwight Eisenhower. While the original draft of the resolution did include some dubious claims (the list of “captive nations” included the nonexistent states of Cossakia and Idel-Ural) and was criticized by prominent American scholars for being based on historical misinformation, it doesn’t take much effort to “discover” the resolution, as it’s not classified and is widely available online. Describing GlobalResearch.ca as “the media” is also problematic, insofar as it is less a news outlet and more an amateur conspiracy website whose founder has subscribed to the Kremlin’s narrative simply because it opposes the one promoted by the “deep state” and its subservient “mainstream media.”

    It’s in this context that Black and Naryshkin’s MH17 veto argument make sense. Black is a prominent member of Kremlin’s foreign “cheerleading team,” which consists of assorted Euroskeptics, far-right politicians, and religious conservatives. He jet-sets between various Kremlin-funded events, from Russian Railways chief Vladimir Yakunin’s “Dialogue of Civilizations’ forum in Rhodes to a roundtable in the Duma hosted by none other than Sergey Naryshkin, where he enthusiastically joined in preaching Russia’s messianic mission and decrying the United States’ nefarious machinations

  27. Maranatha says:

    ht tps://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin/putin-to-u-s-im-ready-for-another-cuban-missile-crisis-if-you-want-one-idUSKCN1QA1A3

    Reagan was able to successfully bankrupt the USSR as he could easily outspend the Soviet Union with a colossal military budget. So if Putin wants, we could do it again and put severe pressure on our NATO allies. Already Trump has successfully pushed for NATO allies to contribute 100 billion to the budget for 2019.

    But this is sheer nonsense. We have tremendous domestic issues like illegal immigration, the ramification of free trade and underemployment, inflation, traitors and subversives in Congress, etc. We are as close to civil war as we were in 1859-1860. It honestly could happen.

    Just in the last 24 hours, an outraged Coast Guard lieutenant planned to attack Democrat politicians and the fake news media because he had come to his breaking point.

    Now is not the time to just micturate money by an arms race which of corse China would jump in on as well as numerous rogue states like Iran and North Korea.

    There is no reason for the nonsensical neocon adventurism as there is no money in it. NONE. If we are honest capitalists, then let’s improve the lives of citizens, boot out illegal aliens, get rid of VISA programs for employment and education, halt most refugee migration into the US, and make our allies defend themselves.

    My gosh, if we do an honest infrastructure program, we could improve employment by a massive amount of construction, jobs that must be done like bridges, and thus boost the domestic economy. Believe me that this would create more Republicans as the middle class would be stabilized and reduce this socialist nonsense. What we don’t need is just another WPA FDR program but a valid practical construction prgram. Not make work as Ocasio-Cortez and other green new dealers would have us do.

    The more allies in NATO, the more likely war becomes. How does that benefit the USA? How is it realistic when 70-80% of Millennials cannot pass basic training?

  28. USMCGUY says:

    There is a though provoking book named ” The Geography of War” written by a former high ranking military man. It’s worth reading because it provides context to moves made by countries and why. Russia will never destroy America. Why? It’s not In Russia’s or anyone else’s best interest to do so. Look up what percentage of food production and export the US has vs any other country. Look up how many ports are available to the US vs any other country, including Russia. Nobody’s going to destroy the world’s breadbasket.

    • Maranatha says:

      The easiest way to take the USA is by subversion which is why the KGB (NKVD) long ago funded unions, socialist, the wlmen’s movement, civil rights, the student’s free speech movement, public education, nuclear disarmament, etc.

      They want leftist useful idiots to subvert natural rights theory and the Constitution. Then a soft coup happens at first by socialism. Then the last capitalist true constitutionl republic will be defeated.

      Then a series of crises will lead to helpful advisors and occupiers from Russia and China. They will seize natural resources and cropland and urban centers and ports.

      The crazy leftists will just invite them in and they will never leave.

      • Kevin2 says:

        Actually the Wagner Act of 1935, which legalized labor unions had the primary purpose of sharing a piece of the economic pie so that communism wouldn’t look inviting to those with an empty stomach. When unions and employment were in their hay day in the 1950s communisms appeal was close to zero. The best recruiter for communists is the ultra greedy capitalist like Henry Clay Frick at the helm of US Steel.

        News flash, Russia is not communist. Russia has the private ownership of the means of production. There is a huge difference between Norway with a cradle to grave nanny state and the totalitarian USSR.

      • Kevin2 says:

        Your oppressor with totalitarian global (including the US) ambition that are actively carrying it out are found in the Bilderberg Group, Council Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, with Neo-Con Bonesmen, UK RoundHouse as assistants. You’re looking east and the threat is right here in the west. Interestingly they are not communists but they, and their predecessors, Rothschild, Warburg and Rockefeller have financed them. Its likely that they are losing at China, the last bastion of Communism to be the templet for world human resource management.

        Communists were and are financed by capitalists. It’s not “One capitalist will sell us the road to hang another” it’s that they wouldn’t even exist without capitalist funding. The JBS seen the second tier without looking at the financiers who are not and will never be communists.

        • Kevin2 says:

          Looking not losing

          Rope not road

          The NSAs violation of the 4th Amendment came from NeoCon capitalists. The “Patriot Act” as misnamed as anything ever in existence likewise came from Neo-Con capitalists. Freedom is being eviscerated here by capitalists, not by some shadowy former communists 12,000 miles away.

  29. USMCGUY says:

    Sorry, it’s called ” Prisioners of Geography”. Highly informative, fact based and full of common sense.

  30. Gas and oil pipelines. Nationalists need not apply. A quick look at the reason for the war against the Syrian people is the pipeline that Saudi Arabia and her allies wanted to put into Europe. It will compete with the Russian pipelines. The trouble in Ukraine. Fighting over who profits from the oil and gas pipeline. Afghanistan. 3 trillion worth of natural resources the globalists are trying to keep out of the hands of China or Russia. The profits won’t go to the citizens of the US, Russia, China, or anyone’s citizens. The big money goes to the big connected guys in the fore mentioned countries.

  31. Maranatha says:

    Look at neutron bombs. They were trying to create enough radiation to harm people but not infrastructure.

    Heck, there is no need. A good plague introduced into illegal aliens from Mexico and Central America and most of the country would be crippled. The utilities would fail. Crops would not be harvested. Patients would die with no medicines. There would be an en masse die off from simple things like no clean public water. Two months pass, then invaders just occupy with feeble opposition.

    Game over.

    • Kevin2 says:

      And it has plausible deniability.

      • Maranatha says:

        If I were a crazy Russian premier, that would be the easiest way and as long as it’s common contagion like Avian Flu, then no one can prove germ warfare. The illegal aliens are a perfect vector for transmission.

        And they wouldn’t know they were infected. And with things like Typhus, since it has a 5-14 day period without showing clear signs, then most would have no idea they were infected.

        • Kevin2 says:

          Keep focusing on that left hook and the right cross (actually double-cross) will get ya.

        • Kevin2 says:

          The concern beyond the major powers are rogue actors state and non state. Bio / Viral have been difficult enough for medicine to do battle with under their normal mutations. Weaponizing this could likely be accomplished covertly with resources and a few personnel really available. If one is intellectually honest it’s difficult to envision a future where it doesn’t occur. It’s cheap and by standards of destruction relatively easy compared to destructive alternatives. The possibility of a false flag masking both perpetrator and purpose seems likely too. Interestingly the most effective defense against this is the narcotics smugglers because it would ruin their business. Necessity makes strange bedfellows.

          Crime and drugs are stated as the threat from the “southern invasion” at the border. I believe that the preceding paragraph is intentionally avoided in debate so as not to alarm the general public.

    • Maranatha says:

      ht tps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb
      A few neutron bombs in urban regions and up to 80% of the country is eliminated but leaving surroundings without collateral damage.

      All the Russians and Chinese have to do is strap them on hypersonics. Our ABM tech is totally inadequate to the task.

      • Kevin2 says:

        “Our ABM tech is totally inadequate to the task.”

        Beware of any side negating the offensive capability of the other. If ABMs can shoot down a significant amount of missiles they, by their existence, make nuclear war more likely. This was the original premise of the ABM treaty which allowed defense only for a nations capital so that command and control would not be decapitated.

        There is only one way to win a nuclear war; don’t fight it.

  32. Old Guy says:

    I don’t think it would be wise to try and get in nuke war with Russia. Putin stated if there is no Russia? What good is the rest of the World? I don’t think he was joking.

  33. THe Preacher says:

    USSA “Empire Of DEATH” circling the drain.

    And if there’s any more NeoCON b.s. it’ll get flattened… PERMANTENTLY.

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