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President Bows to Tampa Mayor – Protocol?

Mac Slavo
February 1st, 2010
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President Obama, for the third time during his presidency, has bowed when greeting another leader. This time, the leader Mr. Obama bowed to was Tampa mayor Pam Iorio:

Obama

Perhaps the picture is taken out of context, but the Associated Press makes it clear in the photo description:

U.S. President Barack Obama bows to Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio at MacDill Air Force Base on Thursday, Jan. 28, 2010 in Tampa, Fla.

Last year, the President took flak for bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia:

bow_obama_saudi

World Net Daily points out that Mr. Obama was the only world leader who greeted the king in this manner:

The action appeared especially awkward since among the dozens of world leaders and their spouses, handshakes abounded, but there appeared to be no other bowing in the room.

The U.S. State Department’s office of protocol, in a statement attributed to acting chief of protocol Gladys Blouda, confirmed the type of greeting between heads of state depends on the customs of the countries, but a handshake is the most common form of greeting.

Following up the Saudi Arabia bow, the President did not disappoint when he got to Japan:

bow_obama_japan

While most democrats argued that the Japanese use bowing as a standard greeting, former Vice President Dick Cheney vehemently disagreed:

“There is no reason for an American president to bow to anyone. Our friends and allies don’t expect it, and our enemies see it as a sign of weakness.”

An unnamed senior administration official disagrees and says it was not a sign of weakness:

A senior administration official called the bow to Emperor Akihito a “sign of respect,” adding that the depth of the bow reflected “the level of respect.”

“This is part of what the president says all the time — that he wants to be mindful of other cultures,” the official said. “That doesn’t take anything away from our culture.”

Note that no other world leader bowed when meeting emperor Akihito.

Mr. Obama continues bowing as he meets the Chinese Premier:

bow_obama_chinaIf the statement from Gladys Blouda of the Office of Protocol is correct, then it can be argued that the President is within protocol when he bows to foreign leaders in countries where bowing is considered a sign of respect and greeting.

Mr. Obama is not the first President to bow before other world leaders, with Presidents Eisenhower and Nixon having bowed before the President of France and Emperor of Japan, respectively:

bow_eisenhower_france

bow_nixon_japan(Nixon bows to Emperor Hirohito in Alaska)

President Clinton bowed before the Vietnamese flag:

bow_clinton_vietnam

However, the Presidential protocol is brought into question with regards to the incident in Tampa. It is interesting the President bowed to the mayor and brings into question whether or not he believes that bowing is a standard greeting regardless of what country he is in. If he believes that bowing is a standard greeting, then it all makes sense, on a personal, not Presidential level. But if bowing is not a standard greeting, then what was the Tampa incident about?

Did his upbringing make this a habit? It’s one thing for the administration to suggest that bowing before a world leader such as the emperor of Japan or King of Saudi Arabia is protocol, but a mayor of a US city?

As bowing is not a traditional greeting in America, one must inquire as to the origin of the President’s habit. The only other plausible explanation for this etiquette would be that the President picked up this habit in Indonesia, where he lived from the age of 6 to 10.

From e-diplomat:

Shake hands and give a slight nod when meeting for the first time. After the first meeting, a handshake is not necessary; a slight bow or nod of the head is sufficient. Shake an Indonesian woman’s hand only if she initiates the greeting.

While President Obama may have been trying to respect the culture of Saudi Arabia and Japan, Newsmax puts forth an argument based on American values and Constitutional idealogies for why American Presidents Should Not Bow to Foreign Royalty:

There is a lesson here for President Obama, who appears intent on upending more than two centuries of American protocol. When he as president bows before a Saudi king or a Japanese emperor, he is sending an implicit message to millions of people around the world that the leader of the free world accepts the notion that some people are born to a higher rank than others.

But when our president stands up straight and extends his hand in friendship to all civilized nations, there is no danger, there is only opportunity — opportunity to communicate the values and spirit that Jefferson so eloquently conveyed to the rest of the world — “that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The conduct of our president when he deals with foreign leaders is a serious matter. After all, he represents the American people and our Constitution.

Indeed, when President Obama bows before a foreign leader, the whole country bows with him.

If this is the case, then we must also accept that every American reading this post has not only bowed to presidents, emperors, and popes, but has also given a kiss to and held hands with the King of Saudi Arabia:

bow_bush_saudi

While it is important to understand the cultures of other nations, it is equally as important for other nations to understand the culture of the American people. It should be clear from our history that we, as a nation, are not “bowers.”

We are free men, and our President does not hold his position because of, as Daniel Ruddy put it, “bloodlines or royal coronations.” As a representative of the people, the President should act in this manner and not defer to another leader. In Japan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Europe bowing may be a greeting or sign of respect, but in the United States it is often perceived as a submissive act.

It seems that the line between bowing as a sign of respect, salutation and submission is blurred, as is clear by the arguments put forth by supporters and detractors related not just to President Obama’s bows, but those of Nixon and Eisenhower, as well. Until this has been cleared up, there will likely not be any resolution to the issue of bowing in the presence of foreign leaders, and whether or not a President bows will come down to his (or her) personal views on the matter.

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  1. ovals says:

    I sure as hell won’t be bowing to no commie or kissing a king. I can tell you that right here and now!

  2. well, Obama is one tall brother.  some of the bows look more like he’s just trying to get low.  beats the heck out of the gay love…  😉

  3. Rick Blaine says:

    I can’t tell if you are joking, Soz – about Obama trying to get low because he is somewhat tall.  Yeah, he is pretty tall…but look at those photos again – he’s looking at the ground…and it’s not like he shaking hands with a hobbit in any of them.

    This made me think of a story I heard about Saddam Hussein…and NO, I am not comparing Obama to Hussein…quite the contrary…

    Supposedly, when Hussein would great people with a handshake, we would often hold his hand low…and even pull downwards during the handshake – often causing the other person to dip down a bit, thus making it sort of look like they were bowing to him.

  4. i was only sort of joking.  in one of the pics, it does  look like he’s more bending down than bowing, but yeah, it’s pretty obvious that he’s bowing in all of the others.  weird.  i have a karate background and i don’t even bow anymore…

  5. Airborne71 says:

    If this had been Bush the press would have a field day .  This clown could appear in his underwear  and get prase from the main stream media .

  6. He made the mayor of Tampa look like an emporer! ha

  7. RKM says:

    Actually the bowing may stem from his exposure to Indonesian culture while living there as a child.  Indonesians commonly bow during a greeting/handshake.

  8. Patrick says:

    Good article Mac!  I think you did a great job of presenting it as information, rather than simply an outright condemnation.  I’m with ovals…

  9. Gus says:

    Dudes! Don’t matter who bows to who…cause bottom line is, stay real…he’s got all of them by the “balls” 😉

  10. Sarah says:

    I am Saudi and people here do not bow when they greet. It is actually forbidden in the teachings of Islam and the kissing thing made me laugh so hard because I’ve never seen two guys kissing like this.

 

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