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Democrats Whine About No Gun Control, As Rep. Says Citizens “Just Shouldn’t Need a Gun”

Mac Slavo
June 23rd, 2016
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In this current cycle, there is a very dangerous push for gun control and authoritarian government powers in general.

The cronies on Capitol Hill seem to believe that after the federales were once again unsuccessful in stopping a terrorist from going on a mass shooting spree (despite having interviewed Mateen, and having watched him for a long period of time), that they are entitled to legislate in more power for the federal government and its myriad agencies.

Though the attempt is ridiculous and stands on no principle, it is nonetheless dangerous in its desperation.

Rep. Charles Rangel has now even gone so far as to say that law-abiding citizens shouldn’t even have guns at all, even as he defended the need for armed guards for Congress:

As the Daily Caller reported:

“Law-abiding citizens just shouldn’t have to carry a gun. You’re not gonna push me in that direction,” he said, standing just five feet from a Capitol Police officer, who stood at his post by the House Speaker’s Lobby.

TheDC noted to Rangel he and other members of Congress are protected by armed members of the U.S. Capitol Police.

“Well that’s a little different. I think we deserve–I think we need to be protected down here.”Rangel laughingly insisted.

So in other words, it is just gun control for everybody else who can’t afford personal security guards.

In related episodes of irony and hypocrisy as part of Congress attempted to insist upon gun control via their sit-in stunt, it emerged that Rep. John Lewis, the face of this demand for a “no fly, no buy” list…

… was himself put on the terrorism watchlist by mistake.

As BizPacReview reports:

[Rep. John] Lewis may view the no-fly list as a good vehicle for stopping terrorists from getting weapons. But terrorists wouldn’t be the only people hindered by Collins’ proposal. In fact, if such a law had existed a decade ago, Lewis himself would have been victimized by it.

Press accounts from 2004 to 2008 reveal that Lewis’ name somehow ended up on the federal no-fly list, and remained there for years despite his best efforts to get it off. In 2004, he claimed he was stopped 35 to 40 times in a single year by airport personnel who tried to keep him from flying. Presumably, if the “no fly, no gun” law had been in place then, Lewis would have had even more trouble buying a gun than he had getting on a plane.

[…] Sen. Ted Kennedy and singer Cat Stevens also claimed they were mistakenly placed on it. Their experiences illustrate one of the chief criticisms of the no-fly list: That it can limit individual rights while giving individuals very limited power to fight back.

Despite this, they are attempting to shame their opponents as if their gun control had any moral standing, and wasn’t merely a crude instrument for abusive power:

How can Rep. Lewis escape the fallacy of this dangerous legislation, after it hit home in the first degree and implicated him?

No matter how much he puts on his trademark pout face, Lewis would have lost his rights under “no fly, no buy.”

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The only difference is that most Americans, who lack the connections afforded to a member of Congress, are denied due process, and often unable to have their names removed from the watchlist.

A disgrace, and for no good reason.

Although the Democrat supporters of gun control are quick to blame the NRA, it is the ACLU, typically left-leaning, that has led the way in opposing this thoroughly Fascist and Orwellian would-be law:

As we will argue to a federal district court in Oregon this Wednesday, the standards for inclusion on the No Fly List are unconstitutionally vague, and innocent people are blacklisted without a fair process to correct government error. Our lawsuit seeks a meaningful opportunity for our clients to challenge their placement on the No Fly List because it is so error-prone and the consequences for their lives have been devastating.

In a world of shadows and false presumption of guilt, the rights of the people are turned upside down. Homeland Security, the FBI, the TSA and all the sting operations in the world haven’t stopped a terrorist. All they can do is blame the remaining freedoms. It isn’t just about the 2nd Amendment, which some misguided fools are so apt to loathe.

Americans in general, should they find themselves blacklisted due to errors in spellings, similar names, vague profiles or, perhaps, revenge by some official on the inside, have little recourse.

Under the proposed legislation, which we should all hope fails soundly, would have to go to a federal judge to have their name removed from the “no buy” list that would bar an individual’s ability to legally purchase a firearm.

But it still wouldn’t remove that person from the “watchlist” … because that is secret, and no one can tell our watchers not to suspect… that is what they do. It is truly a nightmare out of Kafka’s The Trial.

This is not an exaggeration. California, along with a couple of other states, has now passed legislation allowing the police to confiscate all firearms from an individual, before any crime has been committed, if a member of their family asserts that they are mentally ill or potentially abusive/violent.

After a 30 day mandatory confiscation, the person would have to convince a judge of his worthiness to reclaim the right to self-defense.

These are dangerous times indeed for the rights of all Americans, despite the really silly people who trying to steal them away.

Read more:

The Watchlist Gun Bans Begin: Obama Enlists Governors to Bypass Congress: “By Executive Order”

Obama’s No-Fly, No-Buy Violates 2nd AND 5th Amendments: List Uses “Secret Criteria” To Bar Guns

Orlando Killer’s Father “Knew Obama”? Schmoozed in Washington, Sought Afghan Presidency

Orlando Shooter Was a DHS Security Contractor: “Has ISIS Infiltrated Homeland Security?”

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  1. Observer says:

    The last few mass shootings involved Islamic immigrants or first gen Muslims, but no mention of disarming them, only us. Good thinking Dem morons.

    • durangokidd says:

      Rangel is a just a typical “do as I say, not as I do” libtard.

      The Constitution is clear. Any DISCUSSION by a Representative against gun ownership should be considered treasonous; an arrest made, and charges filed.

      Jail these anti-constitutional libtards and then deport!!! 🙂

        • Mountain Trekker says:

          A BLOW TO THE GLOBALIST! I just saw that the UK Voted to get out of the EU. Trekker Out. Get Your Gold!

          • WhoWTFKnows... says:

            MT… thats why Gold shot up $100 in overnight trading spiking up to $1360/Oz.. and silver shot up as well spiking to $18.35 approx. Today will be interesting.

            ~WWTI… The Globalist are like Humpty Dumpty, loosing their Tyrannical Grip o the wall, and are going to crash into a Zillion pieces. Trump will put the final nail in their coffins.

          • sodbuster says:

            Gun control talk is all about… Squirrel???

            It’s a non issue with me because I would never comply. I’m armed everywhere I go, I did have to protest my property tax last month and the County would not let me carry. I stood by the exit the entire time.

            My son and I like to identify other CHL’s, one guy last week was wearing a t-shirt
            “iPACK”

            Situational Awareness

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        They are exactly Right!! Citizens “Just Shouldn’t Need a Gun” Only one gun is like none, They need lots of GUNS and lots of Ammo. And shoot any Libtard who tries taking them away from you. You have a right to kill and defend yourself and your property. We want them to know there are a half dozen GUNS behind every blade of Grass and pointed at them.

        ~WWTI… Democratic Voters are Low Information Crowd as Rush would say. Stoopid, gullible and Ignorant as hell. And they will die in SHTF die to their ignorance.

        ~WWTI…

        • Winston Smith says:

          I would tell the gun grabbers that we will keep our guns one way or the other. One way is peaceful and retains the status quo. Pray that we do not find it necessary to resort to the other.

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Just tell the Libtard politicians to give up all their secret service Capitol protections and security, and see how well that work for them.

        Oh so easy to tell you, to give up your protections and security while keeping theirs. How dumb, naïve and gullible their dopey constituents are.

        ~WWTI…

      • Colt M4 says:

        What Rangel doesn’t understand is voters have 4 boxes they can use to deal with them. Number 1 is the soap box. Number 2 is the ballot box. Number 3 is the cartridge box. Last is a pine box.

    • Doogie Says says:

      True, I should not need a gun; however, given that our government keeps proving over and over again that they are completely incapable of protecting us WE NEED THEM NOW MORE THAN EVER.

      A cop told me last week that he was asked if he would confiscate guns some years ago. He said he told them no! It would work great the first few times, but after that as soon as he pulled up in front of a house he would take fire because they would know why he was there. I told him that, and wouldn’t it be nice to have a house and a family to go home to after work. He didn’t seem surprised at my comments at all.

      Who would protect their homes and families while they are out confiscating guns? Just saying…

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        That’s why the US Military likes to recruit Young, Dumb Naïve, and uneducated dopes who got nothing to loose, and a military career is their only option in life to make a living.

        Then once the Soldier Dopes are Brainwashed by the Military, they learn to submit to any freaking order that is given to them, illegal or otherwise in fear they will be charged with failing to obey. Which tyrannical orders will include, killing of Americans, and taking guns for their monthly paycheck.

        Just look at the Katrina gun confiscation scam on helpless people in a disaster. How freaking pathetic was that??? A lesson well learned and never repeated. Or Wounded knee 1859, disarming the Native Lakota, then killing 298 in in a slaughter, where 200 of them were women and children. That was the US 7th Calvary Military in action. What a pathetic chapter in US History. So what did we learn there? Answer: Never gave up your guns, EVER!!! You will be good as dead if you surrender or submit.

        There are Lots and Lots of Sellouts in the US Military, Nat Guard and Domestic Police Force who will fail to obey the US Constitution, but will obey illegal orders. Those traitors will become our Cannon Fodder. Sellout Traitors deserve death, foreign or domestic. And that cheap ass body armor they are issued, will not stop what will be coming at them. Many will resign and abandon their posts, go AWOL and run and hide with their families. We will recognize their Police issued weapons as they dress in plain clothes, not knowing if they are friend or foe. Can you trust a COP 100%??? Even 1% ???, after they spent their careers lying to us? For all the victims that suffered in the hands of the Cops beating their brains out, for the fun of it, it will be payback time baby.. Anybody wearing a uniform in SHTF collapse, good or bad will be a target. Uniforms are a symbol of Tyranny.

        ~WWTI…

    • MachIV says:

      They know exactly what they are doing, which is what makes it scary.

    • That’s because it isn’t about Muslims, Democrats, Republicans, or even firearms, it’s about the total control of everyone. When firearms are removed from the hands of the public, the threat against these idiots going too far with their tyranny is removed, and as a result, you can expect hot tyranny to ensue shorty thereafter. The reason we have a 2nd amendment in the Bill of Rights is to ensure the other 9 are not infringed upon. However, fast food, Fluoridated everything, GMOs, brain dead television, poor education and copious amounts of daily brainwashing have destroyed the fight in most of the public. Now they just need to get their hands on the weapons of those of us that remain healthy and intelligent enough to pose a threat to them. This is the crux of the matter. FUCK THEM!

      • Da Yooper says:

        do not forget big Pharma & their drugging of the US population.

        A population made sick by bad food & then over medicated thanks to Big Pharma is in no shape to revolt.

        Over use of statins & BP medication will do it just to start with.

    • Acid Etch says:

      MAC,

      YOURE TALKING AROUND THE REAL ISSUE HERE, BUD.

      LIBERTARIANISM IS A HALFWAY HOUSE BETWEEN TWO PARTY SHEEPLEISM AND RACE REALISM/WHITE NATIONALISM.

      THE REAL DANGER IS NON-WHITES WITH GUNS. DEADLY BLACKS.

      THE STATISTICS ARE AIRTIGHT ON THIS ONE.

      “THERE IS NOT ONE TRUTH IN EXISTENCE WHICH I FEAR OR WOULD WISH UNKNOWN TO THE WHOLE WORLD” – JEFFERSON

    • WhoWTFKnows... says:

      Off topic but Noteworthy. GOLD overnight shot up $100 to $1360 RE: Silver after hours in the Hong Kong Market which got hammered, shot up to about $18.30 an Ounce.

      It retreated back to $17.85, but these new highs, are like tremors before the earthquake. All about to snap and break loose, and slingshot to the Moon. We could blow right through $18, $19, and be at $22+ in a few days. Economies and markets around the world are collapsing, and PM’s are the safer haven to preserve your wealth. Smart people know this.

      This could be the BIG Breakout, we’ve all been looking for. Got your seat belts on?? It’s going to be a fast ride up. Other commodities like Oil are projected to be at $80 by the end of the year.

      I predicted months ago, Silver will be at $26.50 by End of July just to balance out the Silver to Gold Price ratio back to about 47 to 1, just like it has done 4 times consistently in the last 20 years. Lets see how true that becomes.

      So….Using the Silver to Gold Price Ratio, Gold at $1360 Silver should be sitting at about $28.90 if the price ratio was at 47 to 1. Which is the typical price ratio after 6 months, after it hits to the level of 80 to 1 then drops back down. Watch the charts and see the pattern. This 47 to 1 ratio has happened 4 times consistently in the last 20 years. Well within my target price of $26.50 coming at us.

      So any holdouts not getting your Physical Silver before Yesterday, are going to be watching the Silver Ship pull away from the dock, and heading out to sea. You missed the boat, you missed your chance, and you will miss the party.

      Here see for yourself:
      Gold Chart: ht tp://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html

      Silver Chart: ht tp://www.kitco.com/charts/livesilver.html

      Silver to Gold Price Ratio Chart. ht tp://www.macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratio Click on the 20 year chart to see the pattern over 20 years.

      ~WWTI… Mac, is there anyway to embed these live Kitco gold and silver charts on your site here, like Survival Blog does? Keep in mind while sometimes these charts do not auto-update for an hour sometimes. Not sure why, but then I refer to the Ask /Bid for more accurate up to the minute trading price, while the US Markets are open. Use his chart: ht tp://www.kitco.com/market/

      Save all of these charts links on your desktop for quick access. Good Luck!!

    • marcus says:

      well, no we SHOULDNT need a gun, but until we get rid of TYRANTS, POWER MONGERS, LAWYERS, CAREER POLITICIANS, GLOBALISTS, TERRORISTS (government created or otherwise) CRIMINALS, GANGS, ETC we will CONTINUE to need one so GTFO my firearms.

    • Mongoose says:

      So when he leaves office will he be walking around Harlem unarmed or unguarded?
      .
      Forgive me, what was I thinking, he isn’t a SERF.

  2. GruntyMcPhereson says:

    Ummm, yeah…terrible boating accident. They were all lost. So sad. The remaining ones I sold. To whom? Garsh, I forget the names. Um, yeah…lost the bills of sale for those pesky sales as well.

    Have a good rest of your day, officer…

  3. Menzoberranzan says:

    The scumbag rangal. Fucking piece of shit like all the rest calling for gun control. This Country won’t be safe until these people are dead.

    • Mountain Trekker says:

      I just love this, The Republicans just stopped 4 gun control laws and the 4 Supreme Court Justices that were appointed by Republicans stopped Obama’s Immigration edict, and then we have Idiots on SHTFPlan that say, Don’t Vote and a whole passle of sheep jump right in with them and say Yeah lets show TPTB and Not Vote. Trekker Out. Are You Kidding Me!

      • Plan twice, prep once says:

        Rangel belongs in prison for tax fraud.

        And the half of SCOTUS that voted to give dictator power to Obama are just traitors. To see SCOTUS vote down party lines on a clear separation of powers issue is terrifying. Had it been a conservative president would the vote have reversed? I think not, it would have been 8 to nothing.

      • Right, right, right, because it REALLY makes a fucking difference. You dolt. Vote for the next plantation manager and be FREE to do as your rulers tell you.

        • Winston Smith says:

          You vote not because you know it will make a difference but because it might. If it is all irrelevant anyways, then you just wasted some time and no harm/no foul. However, if it does matter and you fail to vote then your lack of a vote can indeed do you harm. At the end of the day, there will always be government and a functioning democracy or republic gives you the best reasonable shot at having a voice in how you will be screwed.

          So far as it goes, it’s amazing to note that a vote has actually gone against the elites tonight and the UK will leave the EU. So… perhaps voting does count for something…

          • Tucker says:

            I’ve read that Britain has 2 years to develop an ‘exit strategy’, so that means the diabolically evil globalist cockroaches will have at least that same amount of time to scheme up some way whereby they can (a) continue to propagandize the British public with all sorts of ‘doom and gloom’ lies and (b) conjure up some way whereby they can nullify the Brexit vote.

            The best advice I could give to my fellow White British racial brothers and sisters is to: (a) Identify every last one of these globalist cockroaches, (b) Arrest and charge them with participating in a conspiracy to commit treason against the sovereign nation of Britain, (c) Put them on trial, swiftly convict them of treason, and (d) Schedule them for public executions.

            My recommendation as for the methods of execution would be to give them a choice between having their heads cut off with a chainsaw or being shoved head first into a wood chipper.

      • Infidel says:

        Obutthole has already said he will ignore SCOTUS on illegals.

    • rellik says:

      I think you mis-stated the position. ” This Country won’t be safe until these people are dead”, should be “This Country won’t be safe until the people that voted for these people are dead”.
      A little harsh, but true.
      I don’t like Democrats.

      • La.Maniac says:

        Amen brother!I can’t even fathom how they think,totally boggles my mind!What do they think will happen!But I would like to see Rosie O out picking peas for them,after they take all her $
        Maniac —out

    • skittle shittin unicorn says:

      why is it that the ass hole in the picture on the left ( pic above ) looks like a silver back gorilla ??? tell me that a hole isnt a sleeping gorilla

      i dare you and the one on the right looks like she is protecting all the fruit

      stupid F*&%king animals
      the whole damn govt is run by animals

      Read animal farm folks

      four legs good two legs bad !!

  4. Menzoberranzan says:

    The scumbag rangal. Fucking piece of shit like all the rest calling for gun control. This Country won’t be safe until these people are dead.

  5. nubria 123 says:

    News Flash Congress makes the laws not lame ducks.

    • Braveheart1776 says:

      News Flash: OUR RIGHTS COME FROM GOD, NOT FROM ANY MANMADE GOVT. They can pass what they want. Doesn’t mean I’ll follow it.

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Hey BH, Prove their is a GOD.. Its just more man made words, using a fictitious godly symbol to exploit fraud onto the dumb masses. Religion is the Biggest Fraud out there to control the ignorant.

        You are your own keeper, and make your own set of judgments as you please, or see fit. Don’t be a slave to religion. It just makes you look stooped.

        WWTI…

  6. NITE OWL says:

    All this because some #%%$### f–KING TERRORIST KILLED almost 50 people and wounded about 50 more.

    So take them away from the GOOD PEOPLE as always.

    New flash DEMOCRATS how are you going to DISARM the AMERICAN GUN OWNERS.

    All you nitwits have done is create RECORD BUYING of AR-15, and COUSINS LIKE IT.

    WAY TO GO you ASS—-S you need to retire or be replaced.

  7. NITE OWL says:

    All this because some #%%$### f–KING TERRORIST KILLED almost 50 people and wounded about 50 more.

    So take them away from the GOOD PEOPLE as always.

    New flash DEMOCRATS how are you going to DISARM the AMERICAN GUN OWNERS.

    All you nitwits have done is create RECORD BUYING of AR-15, and COUSINS LIKE IT.

    WAY TO GO you ASS—-S you need to retire or be replaced.

    • Infidel says:

      The FBI is involved in the fag club thing up to their eyeballs.

    • WhoWTFKnows... says:

      In FL just few days ago: Ocala woman shoots naked, poop-smeared intruder, deputies say

      A 27-year-old man was in intensive care Monday after being shot by a homeowner during a home invasion, investigators said. When deputies arrived at the home in Northwest Ocala, they found Victor Alex Etherington naked and hiding behind the bedroom door. He had defecated on himself, the Marion County Sheriff’s Office said. The incident happened Sunday evening when Etherington started knocking on the 54-year-old homeowner’s window and demanded she let him in, deputies said. The victim was not identified by investigators. The woman told Etherington to leave, but he kicked in the door and chased her upstairs to her bedroom, deputies said. The woman told investigators she locked the door, called 911 and armed herself with a .22 caliber handgun. She locked herself in the bedroom closet when Etherington forced his way into the bed room, deputies said. Once inside, the man took off his shorts — “which he had defecated in” — and forced his way into the closet, at which point the homeowner shot him in the stomach, a Sheriff’s Office report said. Deputies arrived and forced their way into the home and found Etherington naked and hiding behind the bedroom door, the report said. The man was taken to Ocala Regional Medical Center where he underwent surgery, investigators said.

      This Lady is who the Liberal Shills want to disarm. So what did we learn here? NEVER give up your guns.

      ~WWTI…

  8. Kevin2 says:

    Sen. Hubert Humphrey’s statement, Know Your Lawmakers, Guns, Feb. 1960, p. 4 (1960):

    “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”

    • Kevin2 says:

      Hubert Humphrey is probably in the Democrat / Progressive top 6 of all times in their eyes. Today he would look like a stout conservative.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Kevin2, I remember Hubert Humphrey very well. At least he was more respectable than any of the Kennedys, especially Ted. May Ted Kennedy burn in hell forever.

        • Kevin2 says:

          Nixon, Humphrey, Wallace. Actually Humphrey was probably the best choice of poor choices.

          I’m still a fan of Jack and Bobby. If TPTB offed JFK then he was likely in the process doing something in my favor. If Bobby got in we might have been out of Vietnam 10,000+ US deaths earlier. That Marilyn Monroe thing is shaky at best but regardless maybe Vietnam could have been prevented saving 59000+ lives and a ton of money.

          Ted is a corrupt drunkard with zero redeeming value.

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Kevin2, at least Jack and Bobby did have some semblance of decency, I’ll give you that. I can still remember George Wallace saying, “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between Democrats and Republicans.” That was back when less than 1% of the population knew the truth.

          • aljamo says:

            Kevin2… I was 18 when RFK was killed, what a major bummer less than 5 years after JFK’s death. He planned to go after his brothers killers after he became president, thus his murder. Sirhan was the patsy, like Qswald before him. Both would be presidents, JFK again in ’64 and RFK easily in ’68 were murdered by the very same groups that control this nation today. Those groups won’t give up on attempting to disarm American citizens now and into the future. Sad memories for me to this day.

          • Infidel says:

            JFK allowed public employees to unionize.

          • Leonard says:

            I read that JFK was in the processing of divorcing America from the Federal Reserve, and that’s why he was targeted.

  9. franklin says:

    Look at those little PISSANTS pretending they are in college ……. send in the cops to crack THEIR heads the way THEY send cops to crack OURS when WE protest.
    Treat those P.O.S. like THEY treat the Ranchers out west.

  10. franklin says:

    Find one government in the history of humanity that felt a need to document a “RIGHT” for it’s ARMED FORCES to possess ARMS.
    Oppressive Governments are ALWAYS banning the People’S RIGHTS to arms.
    The claim that the Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment to give Our ARMED FORCES a “right” to keep and carry ARMS is S-T-U-P-I-D.
    The only reason for the Second Amendment is to clearly spell-out the GOD GIVEN RIGHT of INDIVIDUALS to keep & bear ARMS.
    The only reason for the BILL(list) of RIGHTS was to codify INDIVIDUALS’ GOD GIVEN RIGHTS.
    Has there ever been a government that was not chock full of it’s “rights” up to and including declaring itself to be the Lord God Almighty?! (Rome, Egypt, Israel,etc)
    Does the 1st Amendment mean the GOVERNMENT is allowed to give speeches? Try shutting up any Politician. But THEY would LOVE to shut YOU up, hence the FIRST Amendment.
    Anyone who tells you the 2nd Amendment applies to the Army or State Militia, is telling you they think you are STUPID.
    There has NEVER been a government that felt it had to codify it’s army’s/soldier’s “RIGHT” to “Keep and BEAR ARMS” because there has NEVER been a government that refused to allow It’s own soldiers to KEEP and BEAR ARMS!
    The Second Amendment was given to the People, like all the other rights in the Bill or Rights. This was confirmed by the SCOTUS in the DC vs Heller decision, where they stated that the “People” in the Second Amendment were the same “People” that are mentioned in the First and Fourth Amendment.

    • WhoWTFKnows... says:

      Question for your Religious Freaks Quoting BS God Like Phrases.

      How it is that GOD gave you rights to own Guns, before Guns were even invented? hmmmmmm… Ever do a time table chart to match your Bible Babble??

      In fact there were no Guns around period, when GOD was invented by man, just a few thousand years ago.

      In fact, the Greek God Apollo has more credibility than the Christian GOD. The Sun God Apollo is out every day showing his true color and the provides me power of electricity for my solar panels.

      The Christian GOD, is hiding somewhere up in the clouds, but nobody has ever seen him, and he basically hides, and is never there when you really need him. All he provides is propaganda hope and faith, like Obama did.

      Ever look up the definition of Faith? Faith: – A set of beliefs with out any proof or facts.

      So I will worship and give thanks daily to Apollo the Sun God, who provides more to me daily, than the BS hopey wishy washy pray lies and fraud from the babble.

      You are promised ever lasting life if you believe. John 3:16 But can you show any proof, that anybody or just a single human soul out there has ever got that big prize of ever lasting life? It never ever happens and is a Big Fat Lie. Seriously, do you enjoy being lied to?

      Yet millions continue flock to the Religious BS Fraud. Its amazing. Astonishing really how gullible the human being is. And they are not just liberals.

      ~WWTI…

  11. Old Guy says:

    Maybe we shouldn’t need a gun? there are lots of things we shouldn’t need. But the fact is we actually do need them. Without them we would all be helpless vitims

  12. California Resident says:

    To US Representative Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, Jerry Brown, Kevin DeLeon et.al…….

    Fortunately, maintaining possession of my AR-15’s (plural) isn’t about “need” and it won’t be about “need” until you try to legislate every “assault weapon” owner as a felon.

    At that point it WILL be about need.

    ….and then they’ll understand what the “definition” of “need” is.

    Citizens have had enough of your incessant bullshit.

    • Kulafarmer says:

      These assholes will also then see what the true intent of the second ammendment is,
      And it has nothing at all to do with hunting but everything about throwing off a government that is abusing its position.
      MOLON LABE YOU STUPID DEMOCRATS AND ANYONE WHO THINKS ITS A GOOD IDEA TOFOLLOW THEM

  13. Grey Rider says:

    If there was honesty – and these democrats that are sitting in at congress were for real – they would be in Chicago at night time – go disarm those folks you scum, rather than law-abiding Americans.
    Makes me sick to watch as the political class in DC slowly but surely erode what freedoms we have left way.

    They have to take an oath to become ‘representatives’; that oath is to uphold the constitution – not diminish it.
    They are forfeiting any legitimacy they were given by an election by their own actions.

    Others have said it – rope time is fast approaching this country.

  14. Beowulf says:

    The bill of rights are mine as a citizen. In theory the government can’t tamper with nor infringe them. However while I want to keep my rights politicians want to usurp them. That is why our forefathers gave us the second amendment. An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject. The Fourth Turning is close, They will come for our weapons, Lock and Load then Wait.

  15. Democrats are calling for guns so why do they accuse the Republicans ?

  16. Sgt. Dale says:

    Silly Democrats Guns are for Patriots.

    If guns kill people.
    Forks make you FAT.
    Pencils make you spell wrong.
    Trucks make you drive drunk.
    Matches cause arson.

    Sgt.

    • Braveheart1776 says:

      Sarge, LOL. Damn good one. BTW, one of the Dems who took part in the “sit-in” on the House floor just happened to be MY local congresscritter, Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Memphis. He’s also a hypocrite. He has a CCW permit and carries a 9mm. But he, just like his colleagues, has NO problem trying to get us disarmed. He’s a total moron just like the rest of them.

    • Sarge:

      Make a T-shirt and a baseball hat.

      “If guns kill people, forks make you fat.”

      I might. I sold shirts and hats. That is one great line.

      E-mail Trump. He would be a mighty fine business partner. Let’s make a deal.

      And good luck sawing up that walnut and maple. Glad to know you survived with your house unscathed.

    • skeptic says:

      Sarge;
      If you coined that I am your newest follower. If not please give credit to the one who did.

      • Sgt. Dale says:

        To the Above
        I can’t take credit for this, But it is my favorite “T” shirt.
        Dixie Classics gets all the credit.
        The “T” is called SOUTHERN GUN OWNERS.
        I’m going to look them up and order some more if they still have them.

        Brave the wife is on the way down to look at some land in south East Tenn. This why I’m up on the computer at 0415 in the morning. Wish us luck!!!!

        Sgt.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Great Move Sgt, I wish you well. You really do need to get out of Illinois ASAP. If you are collecting a pension, go to a friendly gun State that also does NOT charge State Income taxes. Like Florida. Some other States out there as well don’t collect income taxes. That will help preserve your income and wealth.

          I have a buddy lives east of Chicago an hour. He Pays like $3600 a year in property taxes, for a small house maybe worth $80K. He is trapped there, and cannot leave. Who wants to pay that kind of taxes for a small house?? My house I sold in the City in Florida, value $250K, and I was only paying about $1000 a year in property taxes. So it is a Huge difference what state you live in, as to how you will live, preserve your wealth, and live a healthy retirement.

          I always tell people, moving to a place like Florida, especially from the chilly north, that all your family and friends will come visit you in FL. Trust me on this, from experience.

          ~WWTI…

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Sarge, good luck. Maybe this time you’ll get lucky and find what you’re after. I’ve looked in the Cumberland Plateau in years past, but to no avail. SE TN would do just as well. If I knew for sure we had more time before everything blows, I’d still try to get my own. But the way things are shaping up, it might be too late for me. Thank God for the arrangement with family in north GA. Otherwise I most likely would’ve been doomed to die in Memphis.

  17. Braveheart1776 says:

    Old Guy, you hit the nail on the head with that one. I’ll say this again after saying it many times before. Let these people who are against us having guns suffer a home invasion themselves. Let’s see them and their loved ones get raped, beaten, etc. Let’s see them get ‘terrorized’ by these black thugs out here and see what they have to say afterwards about guns IF THEY LIVE THROUGH THEIR ORDEAL. Those people don’t have the first clue about the real world. Obviously they’ve never been victims of any kind of crime. They’re definitely NOT part of OUR world.

    • Kevin2 says:

      Braveheart1776

      The hard core of their ilk are still believers. I did read one case that one them raped and beaten felt sorry for her attacker. I had a conversation with one of the super liberals regarding this very subject a couple of years back. They stated that they would not use a gun to defend their own life. I shocked them saying I agree. I then paused and said, “your life isn’t worth saving but mine is”.

      Self preservation is the strongest of emotions far above all others. A person is literally mentally imbalanced not to have that primal instinct.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Kevin2, you really said that to the libturd? OOOOOOOOOOOO! I take my hat off to you. I’ll remember that one.

        • Kevin2 says:

          I like to engage in political conversation if possible and a few beers often facilitates that when camping. We run into both ends of the political spectrum and many in the middle. Some are surprising as one size doesn’t fit all. Met anti gun fiscal conservatives and pro gun social liberals. The greatest number of people don’t know or care to know. They care about hobbies, sports and the like and have no clue what is going on outside of sound bites if that.

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Kevin2, you’re more like me. I still do the same thing although not as much as I used to. I find even more people than I used to that don’t know or care. That’s just the way it is nowadays.

            • Kevin2 says:

              My wife sometimes gives me “the look” that says, switch subjects.

              I find more than I used to that do have a clue regarding the globalist stuff but still far too few. Some really surprised me in both depth of knowledge and who they were. Some kinda know things ain’t right but thats about it. Most people, as long as their fed without the wolf at the door are only interested in their small world. The system depends upon them and coined the phrase 2000+ years ago, “Food and Circus”.

      • Marie says:

        Hahaha….that’s a good one! “You’re life isn’t worth saving, but mine is.” That was great !!!

      • Kevin:
        .
        “Your life isn’t worth saving but mine is.” ?

        That was a MAN who was gang raped by other men (more like animals). Poor liberal victim is not alone in his brainwashed mixed up mind. I hope some day when he stops feeling sorry for the perpetrators that he funnels his righteous anger into fighting against his enemies, the invaders at the gate and the traitors who let them in. If he helped to open the gate, he ought to fess up to his mistake and carry on. No one deserves to be raped. No one, ever.

  18. John WV says:

    Every Government Worker should be required to read the “CONSTITUTION” and “THE BILL OF RIGHTS” once a week all year long.
    After reading it and being tested on it weekly, just maybe it will sink in, to what America is all about!

    • Babycatcher55 says:

      I’m planning on framing a copy of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and putting them on the living room wall. Wouldn’t that be handsome, in a nice walnut frame?

  19. PO'd Patriot says:

    I’m at a loss for words…… watching these polecats lay in the floor of the House, kick their feet and throw a big hissy fit was just unimaginable. We are truly phucked. One thing that did give me a little twinge near the lower extremities was POTUS Lock-Jawed over Obamboozles executive order on blanket amnesties for illegals being nullified. That POS came on TV and blamed everybody but his sorry Ethiopian ass for what came about. What a sorry excuse for a human being.

    • PO'd Patriot says:

      Meant to say,”SCOTUS” Lock-Jawed.

    • Braveheart1776 says:

      PO’d Patriot, one of the morons was MY local congresscritter, Steve Cohen. He’s also a hypocrite. He has a CCW permit and carries a 9mm, yet he doesn’t have any problem trying to take mine and everyone else’s guns away from us. I’ve got something he doesn’t want.

  20. Lone wolverine says:

    Only your enemy. Wants you disarmed.

  21. cliff sullivan says:

    ‘Tis the very Democratic constituent that are the source of gun deaths in the USA; Blacks (Niggaz,Gangstas, THUgs, hoz n’ bitchez)@ 50%+; Hispanics (La Raza, Salvadore
    Maratrucha, Mexican Drug Cartels) @ 35%+, LGBT (confused and sexually searching) @ 1%. That’s approaching 90%. And when the law abiding citizens are disarmed by our militarized jack booted thugs, only the lunatics and the popo will be armed up. That’s when the shooting starts!

  22. Braveheart1776 says:

    HEADS UP: I’ve just heard the demos’ “sit-in” has just ended. They supposedly had fluffy pillows to sit on and even had a catering service bring them food, all at our expense. These scum are trying to disarm us and turn all of us into victims, yet we’re still expected to provide for their comfort and to feed their faces? GMAFB [GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK]

  23. Gone Camping says:

    Can’t wait till they try and take them away; open season at that point.

    We hold the high ground and ranges are known…good luck!

    “Puny little God” – The Hulk

  24. Kevin2 says:

    I’m not against the method just the cause. Pick a good cause like stopping NAFTA, China Free Trade, demise of Glass-Steagall, War in Iraq and as the kids say, “I’m down with that”

    When it comes to the Constitution and Bill Of Rights stand tall.

  25. swinging richard says:

    Shoot all the lawbreaking protesters.

  26. Plan twice, prep once says:

    I never understood why just prior to WW one and two the were global movements to disarm populations.

    Now I do, the crackpots in government all see the Shiit Sandwich that the world is about to eat due to their incredibly poor planning and management. The politicians have an incredibly poor view of their constituents and see their own citizens as a threat to their power and agenda. They are terrified.

    Just like these same politicians took apart all the legislation that kept the banking system from excessive abuse of credit and lending that helped precipitate the 2008 crash. These laws were put in place as result of the Great Depression experience. They knew this and took all the safeties out anyway. The resulting crash came within a decade.

    They are stymied by the second amendment that they would kill in a second if it was simple legislation and not an article in the bill of rights.

    • Kevin2 says:

      ” These laws were put in place as result of the Great Depression experience”

      Glass-Steagall

      • Kevin2 says:

        Here is the most informative historical outline of the demise of Glass-Steagall

        h ttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

      • Kevin2 says:

        Here is the most informative historical outline of the demise of Glass-Steagall

        h ttp://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/wallstreet/weill/demise.html

        • Plan twice, prep once says:

          I find it interesting that the automatic weapons gun control legislation of 1933 was only needed because a nutty government passed prohibition, creating a massive black market run by organized crime that in turn payed off police and politicians.

          I wonder if prohibition had not been passed, if they ever would of needed the 1933 gun laws that have been the model for circumventing the Constitution ever since.

          Obama is doing it again by bringing in Jihadists who will abuse the second amendment creating the terrorist crisis for more gun control.

  27. anon says:

    Rangel for armed security to protect Congress. Why do I feel he is talking about Hitler’s SS. Feinstein has a weapon that she carries.

    The countdown is ticking towards the Election day. Lots of things can happen before then.

    Off Topic. Keep your eyes open for good deals.

    I was going to buy some cheap plywood for a project and as I was heading out. A home that was reprocessed by the bank was being cleaned out.

    On the street was 5 sheets of half inch 4×8 foot particle plywood. Stopped and asked if I could have it.

    Bingo! Curbside Freebies.

    • Archivist says:

      An 18-wheeler potato transport truck broke in half in Elizabeth City, NC yesterday near the FSA neighborhood. Free taters! There was a crowd there with plastic shopping bags.

      The truck looked new, so it was evidently poorly designed. The side of the trailer was ripped open like it was tin foil. The guy was just turning a corner and the trailer busted.

  28. Dan Morgan says:

    Well Charlie, if it wasn’t for dickhead’s like you and your Peep’s, nobody would NEED a gun.
    As it is, it’s none of your F**king business if I own a gun, you pathetic old Marxist.

  29. Jim in Va. says:

    congress…biggest joke on the population. Good reason for term limits. Take away their protection and watch them scream like little girls!

    • Mountain Trekker says:

      Jim I won’t argue the point on term limits, but I’ve often wondered about how many people that want term limits will run right down on primary election day and vote for the same guy thats in office. Trekker Out.

  30. Well, I shouldn’t “need a car” either, but the government has failed in providing public transportation as well as safety. I therefore “do need a gun”, however, what I “need” is irrelevant.

    The law is the law:

    A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

    The law is THE LAW. Pardon my totally blunt honesty, Mac, but Democrats you can go screw yourselves!

    If you embezzle, the law is the law.

    If you murder, the law is the law.

    If steal something, the law is the law.

    If you hurt someone, the law is the law.

    The law is the law every damned time except when it comes to guarantee the rights of the sovereign people (according to the supreme court, not me) of America.

    So, again, I say, Dear Democrats: cram it up your backside and shut the heck up.

    • Kevin2 says:

      “If you embezzle, the law is the law.”

      Might be the law but its damn sure not enforced and a phrase is being used that may incorporate itself into the english language proper:

      To Corzine or You Got Corzined: Its synonymous with getting ripped off.

    • Braveheart1776 says:

      NetRanger, outstanding post. I’ll rephrase what you said about the law and say THE CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND. OUR RIGHTS COME FROM GOD, NOT FROM GOVT. GOVT. IS SUPPOSED TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THOSE RIGHTS, NOT TAMPER WITH THEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.

  31. Braveheart1776 says:

    @ Jim in Va
    All good points. Join Mac and Me at the BOL. A lot of orgasms.

  32. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

    No guns for citizens, I know. My ex girlfriend was abducted and gang raped by niggers over 15 years ago, and dumbed butt assed nude in a ditch… what goes through a man’s mind, once you hear that news,…it was bad for me to deal with…our county has been taken over by Muslims from the UN..

    No one can become a member on the council unless you take a luciferian initiation..awhile back, Bankers Moon declared himself the massiah..

    Chinese soldiers are being flown into Mexico by the 30,000’s at a time, in plain clothes, and are now 60 mile’s south of Laredo, and the chinese govenment is a sponsor of terrorism, supports jihadist, supplies Iran with weapons, and so does Russian..chinese soldiers are busy gang raping female college students, shooting women in the back of their heads with AK,47’s..one state in our country is pushing for her use guilotines, and trying to get firing squads legalized for using on citizens…

    The Canadian general said these exact words. We will invade and take over the country, two gun shots to the head of the man of the house hold, then take his wife and children l, daughter etc, to to camps to service the chinese and Russian soldiers..

    Two years ago a Russian soldier showed up at a tattoo shop on westheimer in broad daylight, to see who posted that crap on Facebook about the Russian soldiers in America to take out the veterans and pariots, and you know the rest if my story…

    So, I am now a bad person, because I won’t let foreign soldiers shoot my in my fucking head, then gang rape my fiance to death in a camp..

    We then, I am a bad person because that will not go well with me once the soldiers are on there way… Rebecca warned me on this site a few months back to let me know that if keep taking like this that our FBI would show up in my door and arrest me for making threats to murderous, rapist, child rapist, killers and invading armies. Very interesting..when your wife to be is taken from you, you have a little different perspective, and then you learn that invading armies coming to your area is not a good thing. And women on this site has advised you all and have called me out, that I have some type of problem with women..

    If the people of this country were stupid enough to give up guns, what would go down next would make you shit your fucking pants because within 3-4 weeks, mass shootings from soldiers brought into our cities, killing and mass rape of females would follow.. so those democrats can sit on their ass all they want, as if that will change my mind or likes of me for all I care to give rats ass if they sit on the house floor.. CAPITAL. FUCK THEM.

    HCKS..

  33. TheGuy says:

    Then neither do you!

    Nor a Secret Service detachment for that matter. It’s all rainbows and bunnies and Skittle shitting unicorns out here.

    Come on, lead by example!

    *crickets chirping*…

  34. TheGuy says:

    My colleagues & I have had enough. We are sitting-in on the House Floor until we get a vote to address gun violence.

    GOOD!

    Sit there.

    Sit there until you wear a hole in the fucking floor and your ass falls off! That would be greeeeattt.

    You can sit there and do nothing and it would make you 1000 times more useful than you are now.

    Go for it.

    (This is like the little kid threatening to hold his breath until he dies. Do it morons. No one’s going to pay any attention to you and that fun fact will just make you have a huge snit, won’t it?)

  35. Braveheart1776 says:

    Leave me alone, okay!? Just leave me alone!

  36. Majik8ball says:

    Wrangle doend’t think citizens need guns because he knows the 2nd was intended for tyrants like himself!

  37. Ted McCullough says:

    Good posts everyone. Covered about everything. Only thing I’d like to add is if u own a gun or have a concealed carry learn how to use and use well! No good of having a gun and not being able to hit broad side of a barn. I also carry hornet spray in glovebox in case of a road rage incident and keep some at home. I live up a long steep driveway and had to run off a drunk with my Colt anaconda. And in rural area. Also called the cops and told them I was going after him. They busted him that night. He was all over the road, coulda killed someone. I can’t imagine big city problems. You are not safe anywhere without a firearm. And lastly hell yes term limits on congress and the Supreme Court

    • anon says:

      TM

      Hornet spray does not work well according to many tests by willful subjects on vids. Not so good on drunks.

      Get your self some bad ass pepper spray. “Wildfire” with 18% pepper. Four ounce cans so you can put it on them.

      Some states allow 2 ounce cans on carry. Wildfire is Four ounces.

      I do not want to worry about running out with 2 oz. Wildfire is a container you can grab and hold tight. Concealment might matter too.

      • smokey says:

        Just remember that small can of spray might not be that effective, and you might be right in the middle of your own aerosol cloud, in a physical confrontation.

        That pistol may very well be necessary after you’ve brassed off the other guy with pepper spray.

        • anon says:

          Smokey

          I agreed that the one oz. pepper spray is very minimal protection. Some better than none. But four ounces you have some advantage. Still “The Luck of the Draw”, in any encounter.

          Have you seen the small dispersal gadget that use a trip wire to activate pepper spray canister.

          BTW , have you ever cooked chile peppers in a frying pan in your kitchen. Any problems? Some people begin to cough.

  38. Sigproshooter says:

    Mountain Trekker, I’m with you on your assessment above. There is nothing to add really, you said it well. Thanks for your honesty. Keep your powder dry.

  39. USMC1982 says:

    The US is like no other country in that we have a deep history of guns and violence. The bloodiest war in history was the US civil war. They can pass all of the laws they want but they wont get the guns. I think they know that, they are trying to make us criminals is we have to use them one day.

    And, I was fishing the other day and ALL of my guns and ALL of my ammo fell out of the boat in a very deep lake…

  40. Ron Ahrens says:

    Average cost of an AR-15=$600.00…Watching fascist boot licking toxic dump cowards turn them all in to murderous genocidal Corporatist Fascist Globalist psychopaths controlling the collapsing fascist Police State hell on earth of America=ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS

  41. straight shooter says:

    I can not wait until this election is over with and hopefully we can say goodbye to a lot of you all.

  42. Emily says:

    It’s not about ‘need’, scumbag. It is about my rights. I will not back down nor submit to any more of your laws. There are enough on the books already…..time to vote out the congress critters.

  43. DavidC says:

    I want to see these pussies take their anti-gun bullshit into the streets of Chicago and personally disarm the porch-monkeys, as they cite the fact that Chicago has the most stringent gun laws in the country. So far there have been over 300 shooting fatalities in that shit-hole of a city. When these morons take all the guns away and clean up the streets, stopping all shootings for the rest of the year, then we will entertain the no-gun bullshit they are spewing. Until then, I will keep my weapons cleaned, loaded, hidden, and ready.

  44. rednek101 says:

    The citizens, aka the gun shop, gave the FBI a call about the Orlando shooter. They wouldn’t sell him anything either. Looks like the citizens did their part. Even with all the gun sales over the past decade, the murder rate is down. Looks like the citizens are doing their part.

    The FBI is claiming that there was no way to identify Mateem via the gun shop. There is no way there wasn’t a camera somewhere around the gun shop that could have picked up his car/license plate. I seriously doubt that the gun shop didn’t have a camera or two in place. Did the FBI drop the ball? Does the FBI have enough resources to deal with these types of issues?

    Pretty much the legislation introduced that the lib/progressives are whining about would not have done anything to stop Orlando. It was pretty much another knee-jerk reaction. It seems the libs continue to try to force irrelevant and impotent gun laws. It seems, given our gun shop did its part, the infrastructure is in place if we only had the manpower to make it work. Maybe

    • REdnek101,

      First of all we have to have authorities that WANT IT TO WORK.

      Do you think the FBI give two little farts about your safety? Do you think they’d try to stop this guy? No.

      Get this through your head: THEY DO NOT CARE.

      They are very much more concerned that you don’t misconstrue this as connected with islam, you know, the cult of pain, torture, rape, slavery, carnage and death?

      If they weren’t so tied up investigating bullshit and illegally snooping citizens’ data they might actually have time for this.

      No, they are much happier running interference protecting the 2% peacefule muslim population.

      How strange it is that these guys had/were investigating this guy. …and the Tsanarev brothers.

      All this about the guns is nothing but blather. They know it won’t help. But, if they can use it to take the guns, they’ll sure do it! They can all just piss off. The US Gun Owners are wise to this bullshit. We see this hyperactivity against guns. Heck, they even tried to turn around the Boston Bombing and blame it on gunpowder and saying we have to restrict it now. Their incessant hyperactive blather that rages with anything happens.

      Mass shooting: Ban Guns!

      Murder rate goes down: Ban Guns!

      Hurricane: Ban Guns!

      Auto Accident: Ban Guns!

      Terrorist Wacks Out, Kills a bunch of people with a knife: Band Guns!

      Toddler Has A Tummy Ache: Ban Guns!

      I’m not sure. It looks like there just might be an agenda here. Could they be attempting to help that agenda along? Oh, surely not!

  45. Archivist says:

    “Leave” is ahead of “Remain” in the Brexit vote so far:

    ht tp://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

  46. Lone wolverine says:

    We all get it deep down . The domestic enemy is helping to create chaos to get more power . To someday use this power to get us to work for food. They can’t stand paying us more then we need to stay alive and serve them . We are taking their money. And they don’t like that. And. (One) of their mansions cost 5 thousand a month in utilities . But we using 150 a month is destroying the planet because their is more of us. And that must be stopped. They are spoiled rotten rich brats that inherited a lot of money .. And therefore they think that God ordained them to rule the world. Their hired managers run a machine . Primary directive increase profits at all cost. That’s where we are now . Like the movie battleship earth. Ruthless corporations and their we owe it to the stockholders cop out. Bite your tounge patient is the hunter . Prep and wait for the second coming. Don’t waste your self . It’s hard to wait for our leader to come . But it is written he will come and we will win.

  47. aljamo says:

    Everything is rigged against the people in the closing in of the NWO. It is clearly obvious that elections are fake, with all the citizen clamor for paper ballots being completely ignored with one nonsense excuse after another how that solution is not feasible. How can so many people be so voiceless and disempowered as their nation and way of life is stolen away from under them. It doesn’t make any real sense, awful powerful mind control in action. Like the phony Brexit vote, fixed to stay in the EU by NWO dictates, the US into the NAU not far off, but without the vote as if that matters. You younger people have abject slavery in your future.

  48. rellik says:

    There are at least 300 million civilian guns in America, owned by some 100 million Americans. If they outlaw guns, perhaps 20% will comply, I’m using the suck assed Australians as a sample servile population.
    That leaves 80 million well armed Felons, paranoid of police, government agents, and neighbors. At the point you become a felon, what other law abiding things will you abandon?
    Can America deal with 80 million guys calling in bomb threats? and every once in a while one goes off, and destroys a major hi-tension tower?
    Can America deal with 100’s of thousands of electrical substations disabled by bullets? The list goes on.
    I personally would never violate any federal, state or local law,
    but I have an imagination, and I’m certainly not unique. Maybe someone will write a good “how-to” book?

  49. It appears to me that this PNS (Pulse Nightclub Shooting) was a Class C False Flag. This requires actual financing and planning from outside. There has even been mention of a news headline produced about the event 6 hours before it happened. Not to mention the lack of actual ambulances, bodies, blood and victims and, not to mention, the fake and utterly moronic victims.

    The system hopes that you will be so utterly horrified by the event that your critical thinking skills will be put on hold while you emotionally react to the gun issues and the pain of the victims.

    Not all of us are wired that way. In a previous post, myself and others indicated that rather than become terrified and panicked during “Adrenaline Overdose” situations like (supposedly) happened inside the pulse, that we, instead, become dead calm, as if in the eye of the storm, able to react with perfect clarity.

    I think many here are like that. Our brains are wired vastly different than, maybe, 90% of the population. In this way, we see these things in a pragmatic, logical way and are able to see these false flags for what they are: a degree of event and a degree of fakery.

    I’m starting to see these false flags as having elements of each other. Classes A B C and D all have elements of each other in them. I am redoing my classification methods to incorporate different methods of looking at these propaganda stunts.

    • rednek101 says:

      Another thing to look at is the story line. We went from he was gay to ISIS operative to gay again. Now it’s the damn Puerto Ricans that tapped his booty too hard and set him off. If I had to guess, somebody is covering for a Muslim/Isis attack to prevent any backlash to the Muslim community. Can’t imagine who that would be. When you can’t get a straight story line from anybody, it’s a good sign you have some BS going on. If you can’t dazzle ’em with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

      • laeagle says:

        Redneck101,

        I was thinking the same thing! Obama’s people at CBS and all the mainstream media are sowing disinformation to cover up the truth about Islam.

        Louisiana Eagle

  50. TEST says:

    Correction: Those **guarding** these ignorant leftists do not need a gun. Let them use spoons.

  51. TEST says:

    In Dec., 2015, after the mass shooting in San Bernardino, the New York Times put the question clearly and succinctly: “It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency.”

    This paper will address that question head on.
    Is it guns, or people, that kill? As the old saying goes, Teddy Kennedy’s cars have killed more people than all the guns of 99.999% of all gun owners in America. And this true around the world. My brother lived in ultra-safe Switzerland for years. Why is Switzerland so safe? Is it because guns are outlawed?
    Hardly.
    Wikipedia notes: “If you were a Swiss man, you would be a soldier as well. Every able-bodied Swiss man must go to the army in Switzerland for 90 days (Rekrutenschule-Ecole de recrue) and then every 2 years until the age of 42, he must return for practice for 19 days. This allows the government to raise an army of 400,000 men, fully armed, within 24 hours, as every soldier has an assault gun in his house, complete with ammunition.” http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/swiss-business-guide/swiss-army.html “; moreover, “Each individual is required to keep his army issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm SIG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel or the SIG 510 rifle and/or the 9mm SIG-Sauer P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, medical and postal personnel) at home with a specified personal retention quantity of government issued personal ammunition (50 rounds 5.56/48 rounds 9mm…)
    http://en/wikipedia.org/wiki/gun_politics_in_switzerland.” Switzerland which has had three times the gun ownership as, for example Germany, has also had a much lower murder rate. And statistics like this ring true throughout the world. A short 3 minute video is here, for those that wish to see a short report on the Swiss and their guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFUu7cfa7k&feature=player_embedded#t=22s

    Indeed, Thomas Sowell notes countries with stronger gun control laws than the US, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico (Mexico basically bans firearms completely, yet has a higher gun homicide rate than the US), have much higher murder rates, while there are many countries with high rates of gun ownership but low murder rates, such as Israel, New Zealand and Finland. In fact, in Mexico, the murder rate is 22.7 murders per 100,000, whereas the global average is ~7 homicides per 100,000, and the gun happy US is 4.8 murders per 100,000. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-end-gun-debate-forever.html. That is correct – the US, which has the widest gun ownership in the world, is below the worldwide average in homicides. Of course, in the US, approximately 90 million legal owners of guns, owing 300 million firearms; murdered zero people last year. Contrast that with the approximately 170 million Prof. R.J. Rummel of Univ. of Hawaii, in his book Death by Government, says were killed in the last century, the majority of them after their governments disarmed them (Stéphane Courtois, author of the highly regarded Black Book of Communism estimates 94 million were murdered by Communists alone). An hour long, very sobering summary video documenting what happens when the population has their weapons removed can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDivHkQ2GSg&feature=player_embedded#t=8s Or perhaps one might wish to contrast this to the 32,000 people who lost their lives – including thousands of youth – in car accidents last year (see http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s1103.pdf or http://www.nhtsa.gov/NCSA to get the latest exact figure). And for those of you who correctly answered the “cars are necessary, but guns are not” objection, a gold star, for indeed you are correct – but armed population, as the Founding Fathers repeatedly noted, is the sine qua non of a free country and a free population. “Free” as in – as historical records show – comparison to a country like the USSR, Cuba or China that end up murdering millions – including children (just google “Ukrainian Kulak” and look at the photos of millions of children who were murdered by Stalin’s government. As the saying goes, “Free men have guns; slaves do not.”

  52. Asshat says:

    Obama has an f rating by the NRA. He’s the best gun salesman of all time. They need to change the grade.

  53. Infidel-2 says:

    LIBERTY TREE will soon be WATERED!!!

  54. aljamo says:

    The news just reported The Brexit vote was 52% leave vs 48% Bremain. Will that hold overnight?

    • Archivist says:

      The BBC has just posted the following headline:

      “BBC forecasts UK vote to leave EU”

    • Archivist says:

      The Asian markets are tanking right now.

      DOW futures are off by almost 400 points, so the DOW is going down in the morning.

      Gold was up around $1350, but the Kitco site is suddenly down for maintenance.

      ht tp://www.morningstar.com/news/market-watch/TDJNMW_20160623563/update-pound-tanks-stock-futures-tumble-as-brexit-vote-points-to-leave.html

      Interesting times.

      Kitco’s back up and has silver above $18.

  55. Jim in Va. says:

    Go Britain!

    • AGENT SKINHEAD says:

      Thanks Jim. Your words carry a lot of weight at the moment. Britain will still need to fight a lot of BIG enemies to secure our freedom but it’ll be a tad easier now that a massive weight has been lifted off our backs. Fight the good fight America. Take Back Control.

  56. Godsoldier says:

    Yep turn on cnbc the dow jones is down over 600 points silver up over 18.25 i guess this is what we have been waiting for and its just now midnight so tomorrow will be money armegeddon is it time for the last minute store run stock up

  57. Archivist says:

    The Nikkei is down 1100 points now, and the Hang Seng is down over 800 points.

  58. johnny pot says:

    Politicians sit, shit, then wipe, and flush.
    Do this as many times as you need.
    Which is a lot.

  59. Archivist says:

    Now the Kitco site is down completely.

    “The service is unavailable.”

  60. Godsoldier says:

    Oil tanking also you dont suppose the petro dollar is dying do ya

  61. Godsoldier says:

    Silver up 3+% gold+6%

  62. Archivist says:

    The BBC is now saying:

    “Based on analysis of the remaining undeclared counts, the BBC forecasts that the UK has voted to leave the European Union.”

  63. Godsoldier says:

    Tomorrow is gonna be a mess but it will be a good show to watch and just think of how many people you can say i told you so too hope everyone pulled their cash out and have it on hand cus if this ball gets rolling with enough momentum bank holidays will be here now are we gonna have hyper inflation or will cash be king and everything get cheap i know oil is dropping like a rock

  64. Godsoldier says:

    Yep we gonna be collateral damage soros said 20% loss but the truth is thats prob just for starters all them 401k s the sterling is down 10% already

  65. Archivist says:

    The pound is continuing to drop against the dollar. It’s down to $1.32.

    ht tps://www.dailyfx.com/gbp-usd

    • Archivist says:

      The pound has dropped 10%, over twice as much as it has ever moved since WWII.

      Here are the top 4 previous moves (from the BBC):

      “- 1971 Pound moves 3.4% after Nixon Shock — cancellation of the direct international convertibility of the United States dollar to gold.
      – 1 November 1978 4.3% “Winter of discontent” shakes global investors confidence in UK’s economy.
      – 16 September 1992 4.29% when the UK exited the exchange rate mechanism.
      – 20 Jan 2009 – Pound slides 3.9% at the peak of the financial crisis following the demise of Lehman Brothers.”

  66. AGENT SKINHEAD says:

    Britain is free from the clutches of the dastardly European Union. Vote result = 52% LEAVE – 48% REMAIN. So shuv that up your gaping asshole Barry Obama. BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

  67. nbnnpo says:

    Agreed,”citizens should not need a gun.” However, in a government run by the banking cartel you need many guns and unfortunately these “citizens” never read the Constitution that ORDERED them to arrest traitors and kill them.

  68. TheGuy says:

    Unrelated:

    BREXIT BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *CONFETTI*

    You know it would be really interesting to see how strategic nukes are used on a tiny little cram packed continent a-la the European Theater in WW2. Methinks within 20 years we may witness this…

    YAYYYY

    Shcwarzennegger: RUNNNNNNN!!!!! GO!!!! GET TO ZE CHOPPAH!!!!!

  69. talon1776 says:

    Hmmmm…a gun rights article and no Satori distraction comments…the world just got better.

  70. AGENT SKINHEAD says:

    British Prime Minister Dickhead Dave Cameron resigns. STFU already you LOOSER. Take Back Control.

  71. Citizen says:

    Everyone has forgotten the basics.

    SCOTUS has repeatedly confirmed that the Police has “NO OBLIGATION TO INDIVIDUALY PROTECT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY ONLY SOCIETY AS A WHOLE”.
    That is a basic reason why every citizen needs to be armed if they value protecting their family, themselves or others loved ones.
    Should we need permission to own or carry a gun, concealed or otherwise.
    Please let me know what you think.

  72. Asshat says:

    I think there is a turning of the tide republicans turned down a vote for gun control . Court ruled Obummer can’t use executive action to protect illegals. Woke up this morn and the Brits voted to leave the eu. All good news IMO. The globalists will regroup they won’t give up.

  73. Beaumont says:

    Holder said, “We just have to be repetitive about this. It’s not enough to have a catchy ad on a Monday and then only do it every Monday. We have to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”

    Their methods of brainwashing (their word), involved ‘Fast and Furious’ and jihadists. They admit to arming these people, from mainstream media outlets, now showing on Youtube. It’s not conspiracy theory, just because the ordinary, mere, mortal citizen says it. It’s not redacted. There is no charge to see it. You can watch it, any time, coming from their own mouths.

    I would rather that people didn’t need guns.

  74. Moss500 says:

    No, we shouldn’t need guns. We shouldn’t have to worry about a tyrannical, over-stepping government that is so self-serving that is couldn’t care less about the safety and welfare of the American citizens. Fortunately, our founding fathers had the common sense to understand the threat of greed and evil. That is exactly why we do need guns and why we have the 2nd Amendment.