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Are You Seriously Prepared to Go On The Run? “You Have to Disappear With No Contact With Anyone”

Mac Slavo
December 25th, 2015
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It isn’t hard to imagine a time when the lawless completely take over the system, and the defenders of the Constitution become the outlaws.

Dissidents, political enemies, patriots, the outspoken, the spiritual, the preppers and more could be rounded up in mass by a regime in the future. The scenarios are numerous.

What would you do if you were in the cross hairs of such a dark chapter in American history? Would you escape to your hideaway bunker, and put your survival plans into action?

The reality will be much more difficult than anyone has really imagined.

Today’s authorities have technology at their fingertips like never before in history, and right or wrong, they are likely to find almost everyone they are looking to apprehend.

Can you outsmart the state of the art in computer algorithms and surveillance technology that can now put together a web to predict your behavior and pinpoint your activities?

Dave, the Southern Prepper discusses his participation with a CBS reality show called “Hunted,” where preppers are challenged to go on the run for an extended period of time, while a team of experts pieces together information about those on-the-lam in order to track them down.

CBS describes the show this way:

CBS has ordered a new one-hour reality show, Hunted, that turns ordinary people into fugitives on the run.

Hunted challenges its contestants to go into hiding, while professional investigators attempt to track them down in a nationwide manhunt, using everything from cell phone records to determining behavioral patterns.

Watch the video:

Dave, the Southern Prepper said:

“What we were going to be challenging it as, in this country you can be labeled a political prisoner, or political dissident, really quick if you don’t believe what the establishment wants you to believe – especially being a gun owner, a Christian, a home schooler, a patriot, prepper, they can label you pretty much an enemy of the state.”

“It’s really not a prepping show, but it’s going to deal with, you know, grabbing your bag, or grabbing things out of your house. What are you going to need if you had to go on the run? Not for zombies, not from an SHTF event, but from the federal government and all their resources. Pretty much you have to disappear with no contact with anyone.”

“There’s six episodes from the British show [see episode one here], and if you watch that, basically anybody that used a cellphone really jeopardized themselves. Now some of the stuff they’re going to show is almost like a simulation. They’re not really going to use the ATM camera to watch you… they’re going to give you some debit cards to use so that the people on the run will have money.. Just like I would right now, if I went on the run I have a debit card.”

Dave says he and his wife came up with a plan for escape after doing quite a bit a research, concluding that it is extremely difficult to disappear in modern society.

“There’s so much information out there on the Internet, websites, Facebook, emails, phone calls. If the State wants to come and get you, you’re going to have to basically go where you’ve never gone before, never talked about it, and disappear. And really, hard to have contact with people because of the cell phone programs and the way they can spider and catch you by – you know, you might never have even called this person, but you have a buddy that called that person. They’re going to track all that down.”

“We need a committee, an escape committee, you could call it a fugitive committee to start figuring out – if you have to hide someone, like the Underground Railroad that hid blacks during the Civil War to get them out of certain areas – we as a group of preppers in this community need to have a plan.”

At the heart of the issue is the pervasiveness of data.

Ultimately, the Southern Prepper turned the show down, despite really wanting to be part of the challenge, and the desire to bring positive attention to the skills and politics behind prepping.

“You might say: Why didn’t you do it, Dave? The reason is that, this is pretty elaborate. They’re going to have to build a profile on me and my wife. So they’re going to have access to everything, everything I’ve ever done in my life. Just like the federal government. So everyone that’s emailed me potentially could be exposed to CBS and the new show. And I could not do that. For myself I couldn’t do it, and I couldn’t ask anyone else to put up with what I was doing. Because people email me in confidence, and I could never give that confidence away. So we had to decline.

The show, while only putting together a simulation, would actually be tapping his data and records to build a profile. We are so submerged in data, that there is no way to even separate out the game from the real-life game theory that is used to control us all. Watch the British version of The Hunted here:

Even second or third degree connections to a person can give away more than is prudent about like-minded individuals in prepping and patriot communities.

The premise, while thought provoking and fun (in the context of a reality show), serves as a potent warning about the potentials of modern data mining that threaten to keep us ALL under wraps.

Even if you have gone to great pains to stay off the grid, spend cash and maintain your privacy, those connected to you could reveal enough about you to put you back on the map – as a potentially suspicious individual who lives behind a cloak in the age of total tyrannical transparency, where the technology almost sees all.

Are you really prepped to hide if you had to? What would you do?

The question is well worth pondering as dangerous times lay ahead.

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  1. FreeSlave says:

    Merry Chrismas All!

    I’m prepared for eternity. Pray that you all are too!

    • Caucasian says:

      Yes, my soul belongs to Jesus. I’ll not be running, but I’ve sold my cloak and bought my sword and will use it on these evil minions when the day arrives.

      • 1vet says:

        Exactly right!!!

        The farm may fall but this is where I’ll wait ’em out…

        I’ve got my sword too!!!

        • A guy I knew was on the run from the cops for 25 years. Some sort of assault charge.I didnt know it and either did anyone else. But he didnt drive. Had a little business as a handyman and just hired the local 18 year old kids to drive him around. Cops never found him. He had just moved to the next street over and rented a room for all the time. He finally turned himself in. Cops never caught him.

          • NorseMan says:

            Handyman is nice – almost always paid in cash and can go anywhere. Lack of cash (or other non-trackable income) is the biggest obstacle for doing this. That is why the government wants electronic money. The other big obstacle is not contacting anyone you knew – but that may not be a great obstacle.

            One other ‘gotcha’ to watch for – don’t buy $10,000 worth of prepaid Visa cards from your local store. They may not trace directly to you, but they will know your origin and it could be a pattern if a lot of spending from Kansas issued prepaid Visa cards show up in a small Oregon town.

          • That’s the thing… there are lots of folks who have managed to effectively disappear for decades. I remember a story about a dude who escaped a white-collar charge by going on the lam to Phoenix, AZ. He lived there for like 20 years unnoticed… until he got stupid and ran for office. A local reporter finally uncovered it all when an interview had ‘facts’ in it that didn’t add up. If the dude had just kept a low profile, he would have likely been just fine for the rest of his life.

            Nowadays though, it would be a bit harder – your friend could do it because with his lifestyle, he needed no DL, no SSN that he had to cough up, and had no other need for any of the almost-impossible-to-fake information.

            Because of modern life and the almost necessity of such info, why bother to run? I mean, unless you got friends in Central America or suchlike (and preferably in a country with no extradition treaty), there’s no real point to doing so…

      • Can’t find where Jesus told his disciples to slay their enemies. You are following a false Jesus.

        • Caucasian says:

          Jesus never said to stand there and let your enemies slay you either. The only false Jesus is in the muslim’s book.

          • laura m. says:

            GCO: You’ve been brainwashed on Rom 13 by 501c3 gov. run clergy and their apostate church teachings. Go to: thecommonsenseshow.com and review articles on Rom 13 real meaning and quit listening to these apostate preachers and leave these apostate churches controlled by the IRS and DHS agenda that will turn in names for round ups when the hammer drops. You’ve got a lot to learn. Also see articles by Chuck Baldwin on same info. If you are a J.W. they teach this passive do nothing to stand up which is a cult.

            • I am not deceived. If you want to follow Jesus you are going to have to deny yourself first and take up your cross. Those are his words. Tell me miss, howany apostles of Christ died by taking up arms?
              It is you who are brainwashed.

              • if the Disciples had followed your wisdom they wouldn’t have disobeyed the authorities and continued preaching the Gospel. Chew on that

                • Sir, are you realy comparing taking up arms to preaching the gospel? American patriotism and Christianity are not synonymous. You are advocating zealotry. This was the mind set of the man Barabbas who was released in Christ’s place at his trial.

                  I realize that it is pointless to reason with anyone on this topic; you are all convinced in your minds by your own righteousness. It is a zeal foreign to Jesus and to his disciples. For the record: They were beaten, whipped, burned, crucified. Yet not one of them drew their swords. Why? More importantly, why are you so willing to spill blood in defense of an ideal?

                  You all speak of lofty ideals like defending the constitution and the American way. Yet none of you consider that the American way is in complete oposition to Christ.

                  Fight for America. Fight to defend your temporary kingdom. It will be stripped from you regardless. You should be asking yourselves why is this happening in the first place but instead you proudly stand in defence of a nation of rebels who cannot acknowledge they are backwards.

              • pastormike says:

                Luke 22:36
                Jesus says, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
                We were not there, of course, so we can only try to understand what these words mean. During Jesus’ arrest, the disciples had two swords, and that is how one centurian got his ear cut off. Jesus healed the ear. I take that to mean that there is a time for fighting, and a time for healing. Your interpretation may differ, and I won’t argue with you.

              • Hildebeast says:

                I should be brainwashed. I have a dirty mind.

              • Leonard says:

                Jesus Himself told the apostles “Sell your cloak and buy a sword…” The sword was the assault rifle of its day. I think anyone with a double digit IQ can figure out that He was instructing them to arm themselves against whatever dangers lie ahead. That they lacked the testicular fortitude to follow His advice and fight to keep from being captured was a testament to their cowardice, in my opinion.

            • Philosopher says:

              Wow lady. What a hater. The only people I have heard talking about being an apostate are the muslims, lately. By the way there are a number of muslim nations that have the death penalty for apostates. I don’t even want to know what your punishment for apostates (or folks that don’t agree with you) would be.

              • laura m. says:

                Philosopher: you obviously understand apostasy, it is false teachings incl Catholics, JW, Mormons and liberal protestants, etc. You need to go to the Baldwin website and other one mentioned. You appear ultra liberal pro 501c3 for clergy who follow DHS agenda. Get educated on Dave Hodges site the common sense show.com, Get a King James Bible, and check articles related. 501c3 corp. gov. churches are do nothing social clubs pushing the PC agenda. you need to do research. My punishment for apostates is to depart from them, unless they are seeking truth. You’re ignorance and other posts, is the reason I never join groups or sign up for emails. You could be a gov. troll like GCO. So called patriot groups produce zero over decades (social clubs)

                • Philosopher says:

                  Laura M: So, based on a couple of my posts on this forum you have already determined that I am liberal, pushing some kind of PC agenda, a government plant, that I do not own a King James Version of the bible and that I have not done my own homework or research.

                  Well it seems that your mind is closed and you have all the answers. I will pray for you. You need all the help you can get.

            • Braveheart1776 says:

              Laura M., AMEN. GCO should go to chuckbaldwinlive.com and check out all his articles on Romans 13. His son, Timothy Baldwin, wrote a book on Romans 13 which is very interesting. What GCO wrote sounds like JW propaganda. I once had a JW member at my company and she used to say the same shit.

              • Why is everyone here hung up on Romans 13 as if that has any bearing on my thinking?

                You are just like the people of Isreal in The book of Jeremiah. You are so proud. You believe that God is on your side and you do not recognize that He has jaded this nation, it’s leaders and it’s people over to the slaughter. You are blind

              • laura m. says:

                B’heart: I used to know several ladies who pushed the JW agenda, some do leave this cult just like other cults incl Cath., Mormon, when truth is revealed spiritually. I used to be into “social churches” to have friends, ditto for disco clubs in younger years. Friends that aren’t “real” are few and social pals are time wasters. I know local folks claiming to know this and that, yet stay in apostate churches “for friends”, music groups, and social activities for kids, potlucks, etc. If they had common sense, they would move on, no it’s not easy, but know you have to, incl ditching relatives and other loser types who have nothing in common, or critical thinking ability for the real world.

                • Braveheart1776 says:

                  Laura M., I know exactly what you mean. I don’t have much in the way of a ‘social life’ myself. I ditched enough losers in my lifetime to fill up a small town. I grew up southern Baptist but left the church in the 70s; another story for another time. I’ve stayed out of churches ever since. The only people I communicate with are people who have common sense and critical thinking ability. If they don’t have either one of those items, then I avoid them.

          • Your Jesus is false. And Just for the record he did stand by and let his enemies slay him. He also said that those who wish to follow him must first deny themselves and take up their cross and follow Him.

            So, you are clearly wrong and your Jesus is a false Jesus.

            • Caucasian says:

              You are seriously wrong G. Jesus let them take him so he could fulfill his destiny of the cross. He in no way has commanded us to let our enemies just kill us. You go ahead though if you wish.

              • grandee says:

                Explain

                Mt 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

                Mt 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

                key words from Jesus Himself:
                *resist not
                *turn
                *love (your enemies)
                *bless
                *do good
                *pray

                kinda hard to follow Jesus whilst killing, isn’t it?

                • 3% r says:

                  God is the same yesterday, today and forever. So let’s think back for a minute and remember who it was that commanded the Israelites to kill every man, woman and child when they were taking the promised land. He also has said in His word “there is a time for peace and a time for war”. And while Jesus did advocate peace during His ministry, He also did instruct that they should buy swords. Why would He do so unless He intended for them to fight at some point. Could that have been a message intended for us in these last days? And also remember that we are instructed to be defenders of the brethren and that there wasn’t a limitation placed upon that statement. The last thing I want to say is this, yes, Jesus did not come to make war during His ministry on earth. But that is absolutely not the case when He comes back is it? He will kill everyone in the valley of Megiddo if not all persons who have the “mark”. That being the case, I have no issue at all in defending those I care about from anyone or anything. And don’t anyone be deceived into thinking you won’t be here for any of this cuz you’re going to be raptured out.That is another big lie coming from today’s 501 (c) 3 churches. Jesus’ own words clearly state that He will return AFTER the tribulation.

                • grandee says:

                  3% r

                  Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

                  While principles in the Old Test. are applicable for today, Jesus, in the New Test. takes us to a HIGHER Gospel ground:

                  example:
                  Mt 5:21 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time…
                  Mt 5:22 But I say unto you…

                  Now apply-Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

                • This might be helpful to understand the difference between a national “enemy” and a personal “enemy.” Understanding the Greek and Latin translated to English sometimes causes confusion. Check link below

            • Braveheart1776 says:

              GCO, what version of the Bible do you use? If it’s not the King James version, you’re totally misled.

            • Archangel says:

              Psalm 144: Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. KJV

              Jesus DID Say love your enemies, but he also spoke of the body as a temple to God and therefore the self defense of that Temple

              Luke: 22:36
              Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

              Luke 22:37
              It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

              Luke 22:38
              The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied.

              • grandee says:

                Archangel, in the contest in which Jesus is speaking:

                Lk 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes,…

                refers to: Being sent out
                Lk 9:1-6
                Matt 10:5-10
                Mark 6:7-12

                also related:
                1Co 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
                key words-preach & live

                Ro 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
                key words-preach, sent, peace, glad tidings

                Lu 22:35 … lacked ye any thing?
                Key here- Jesus took care of all their needs:
                Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

                Lk 22:35b And they said, Nothing.
                Key here-they, the disciples, agree With Jesus. He protected them.

                Luke: 22:36 But now…
                key here-Jesus wants them to be prepared. Why? for What?

                Luke 22:37 It is written…
                Key here-a prophecy will be fulfilled.
                Jesus will die. How? He is taken by a multitude.
                Mt 26:47 ¶ And while he yet spake, lo, Judas, one of the twelve, came, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and elders of the people.

                Luke 22:38 …See, Lord, here are two swords.
                key word-TWO. Not swords.
                out of at least 13 men present, there are only TWO swords.
                Two swords present shows that no other disciple besides Peter ventured to use one, for there was an unused one.

                Mt 26:51 And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.
                Mt 26:52 Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
                See also Lk 22:49-51 Jesus healed the wound!

                Key here-though they had the TWO swords, Jesus forbid their use.

                back to Luke 22:38b … “That’s enough!” he replied.
                key here-understanding those two words: “That’s enough!”

                It is a sudden rebuke for taking his words in a literal sense.
                Not permission to kill.

                In the context of which Jesus is speaking, He is telling his disciples that a multitude will take him to the cross.
                What protection are two sharpened pieces of metal carried in the hands against thousands of enemies!

                I know this is long.

                We must let the Bible interpret itself.

                peace

                • laeagle says:

                  Grandee,

                  Thanks for your long and insightful discourse on the issue of non-violence. I have a lot of respect and love for the Amish people and the way of the Anabaptists who were discriminated against and persecuted throughout Europe. They found refuge here in America and were generally accepted. I visited an Amish community in northern Indiana with my children and we had a wonderful time. Thank you for your insights. We will all definitely need your knowledge and understanding when the grid is down and the economy collapses. We are all in this together folks. When the time comes we will need a quartermaster, we will need chaplains, we will need doctors and nurses, we will need plenty of soldiers and leaders. Everyone has a role and a unique position to fulfill in the coming days.

                  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

                  Louisiana Eagle

            • Leonard says:

              GCO, please pull your head out of your ass before you suffocate. The lack of air is already damaging your naturally defective brain.

        • john stiner says:

          Read Romans chapter 13

          • Caucasian says:

            Oh yes, the chapter they twist the meaning of to bring tyranny into people’s lives. Obola said it himself, ‘we are no longer a Christian nation.’ These people are not ordained by God.

            • Lone wolverinez says:

              Look at what Jesus is backing. It’s suiciide. Does Jesus’s want exterminate the white world?is that his goal. . .? Why would he do this. .? Will the world be better run by the brownies?

              • grandee says:

                It’s not suicide.
                Ps 116:15 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints.

                His goal, His reason for coming to this earth, is to reconcile you with God.

                To be your Lord as well as your Savior.

                Mt 3:1 ¶ In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, 2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

                Lu 4:43 And He (Jesus) said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent.

                We are to be citizens of His Kingdom.
                He is our Commander-in-Chief.
                He commands us, we follow His commands.

                It’s waaaaaay different than this world.

                Read His Operations Manual-The Holy Bible.

            • grandee says:

              neither were the merciless roman rulers of Jesus and Paul’s times.

              yet Christian’s of that era were the ones who wrote and followed Romans 13

              even Mr. Obama is not that bad. yet.

              • grandee says:

                error-i really do wish we had an edit button.
                from above should read:

                these were the ordained of God, these merciless roman rulers of Jesus and Paul’s times

                • Caucasian says:

                  Our country is lost then. Too many sheep willingly going to the slaughter. FYI the American empire makes the Romans look kind and gentle by comparison when you figure the number of wars we have fought and the sheer amount of people that have been killed. GOD DOES NOT ORDAIN EVIL.

                • Caucasian says:

                  I’m also pretty durn sure God does not like a coward and that is what it comes down to. BAAAAA sheep. I’m ashamed of some of y’all.

                • grandee says:

                  Caucasian, here is your CHRISTian weaponry straight from His Operations Manual:

                  Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,

                  Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, (A-TTEN-TION !!)
                  having your loins girt about with truth
                  having on the breastplate of righteousness

                  Eph 6:15 feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace
                  (Your marching boots)

                  Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith

                  Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation,
                  the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God

                  Eph 6:18 Praying (Heaven’s CENTCOM) always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit

                  “GOD DOES NOT ORDAIN EVIL” You are 100% correct sir. When our leaders are placed in office, per Rom. 13, they are given every opportunity to do good.

                  Ro 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good…

                  Unsaved Man(kind) rebels against God, reverts to evil, does evil, follows his own heart for his own gain.

                  Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

                  This country is no where near what Rome was. ISIS would be the closest to come to that right now. While our foreign policy is in bad need of repair, we still are more civil than anything the Roman Empire did with it’s heavy hand of occupation.

                  my Shepherd
                  Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My Voice, and I know them, and they follow Me:

                  Caucasian, hear Him. follow His Voice. Live abundantly!

                  [ (_) are mine]

                • Ya'aqov ben Ya'aqov says:

                  GCO & grandee, will you also bow down & worship the “image of the beast” & receive the “mark of the beast” because the ruling authorities that you believe are appointed by God order you to? Is this your interpretation of Romans 13? Is there any point at which you’ll resist the wicked edicts of the evil civil authorities?

              • laura m. says:

                gco and grandee: Then why did our ancestors fight the American revolution? They followed the Bible and wanted religious freedoms and gun rights and the English red coats wanted state run churches and no guns for commoners. You both are products of liberal type churches and follow leftist Obozo, Paul Ryan, Loretta Lynch, and Hillary type agendas. Go troll elsewhere losers.

        • Son of Liberty says:

          He did not state it – directly, but it is indirectly inferred. In Lk 22:37 he tells them when they go out to spread the gospel that they are now to take a sword (their equivalent of a firearm). And, if they do not have one they were directed to go to the extreme of selling their outer cloak if needed to fund the purchase of one. For the importance and uses of their cloak you may research this. It was an extremely valuable possession for them.

          Also we see Jesus encouraging a man to be ‘fully armed’ (NASB) to protect his possessions, his household, and himself (Lk 11:22). It is not to be wielded offensively, but he has given us every right to wield it defensively.

          We are not following a ‘false Jesus,’ as you declare, but the Christ of calvary who provided us an example of how we’re to live – and die if needed.

          Blessings,

          Son of Liberty

          • grandee says:

            Lk 11:22-in context Luke 11:14-22

            Here given is a famous miracle done by Jesus in casting a devil out of a possessed man. It is called a dumb devil, because of the effect upon the poor possessed person in restraining the use of his tongue.

            Jesus tells His listeners He cast out the devil by the power of God.
            Lu 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils…

            Lu 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:
            Key words-strong man

            Who is this strong man? Who was Jesus just speaking about?
            Lu 11:18 If Satan…
            Lu 11:19 And if I by Beelzebub…
            The strong man is Satan.

            Lu 11:22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
            Key words-a stronger than he

            Who is stronger than the strong man from v.21
            Jesus says: Lu 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils…
            Jesus is the stronger, stronger than Satan!

            v.22 Jesus come upon him (Satan), and overcome him (Satan)
            then he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

            What does He (Jesus) take from him (Satan)?
            He (Jesus) took the devil’s armor and spoiled his goods because He is the stronger.

            These verses are about the battle between Jesus and Satan.

            Jesus is saying, if I were not assisted with a divine power, I could never cast out this strong man, who reigns in the bodies and souls of men, as in his house; for it must be a stronger than the strong man that shall bind Satan; and who is He but the God of strength?

            These verses are not about a man protecting by self-defense or arming himself for lethal defense.

            Context is critical here, for these verses are followed by a warning from Jesus:
            Lu 11:23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.

            peace

          • grandee says:

            Son of Liberty

            You said, He did not state it – directly, but it is indirectly inferred. In Lk 22:37…

            Please see my response to these verses in Luke 22.
            Comment ID: 3492585 above

            peace

        • swinging richard says:

          When being in a life threatening situation, I’ll use the sense the Lord gave me. He an I will talk about it later.

        • 1vet says:

          Psalm 18:32-34 the God who equipped me with strength and made my way blameless.
          He made my feet like the feet of a deer and set me secure on the heights. He trains my
          hands for war, so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.

      • Anonymous says:

        With you there. Full armour of Christ. Sword included.

    • Too old to run too tired to hide. That’s not living. Seems if they come for one they will need to come for all as it will be like hot popcorn once the first kernel pops. Remember the tin foil jiffy pops? how the popping grows so fast it bursts the foil. yep. Imagine trying to contain- NY, Miami, Atlanta, etc. Not enough resources to stop it once they start it.
      Lots of good Christian folks, civies, mil and le talking and see it coming. Those who are awake and not in govt churches see it.
      The only way to rule innocent men is to make them all criminals.

  2. Old Guy says:

    Im too old run.

    • Me too Old Guy. Plus why run when you can stay and fight. I will not be the hunted, I will be the hunter. Anyone working for those that mean me harm will be the enemy and will be my target. At this age I am not afraid to die for a worthy cause. I swore an oath to protect and serve many years ago. I was never asked to rescind that oath.

      Merry Christmas to my SHTF Plan family.

      BigB

    • lost karma says:

      Same here. If I were 30 years younger I’d have a BOL and plans. But I’m in my retirement home and win lose or draw here I stay and I’m not going quietly. I’m done taking crap from the politically correct crowd. Who the hell are they to take control of my life? I wouldn’t be much of an American if I let them.

    • Enemy of the State says:

      I hear that
      And running will get you only dead and tired

  3. Enemy of the State says:

    I am all of these things
    Hence my screen name

  4. Tonquin says:

    We need to hang together… or we hang separately

  5. Matt says:

    Thanks Dave for all that you do and …….didn’t do.

  6. Sgt. Dale says:

    Merry Christmas to ALL!!

    If I have to run I will not, I’m almost 62 years old and still can run, but there are some who can’t (the very young and the old). The way I see it I’m not going to run I’m going to save my energy to stand and fight.

    The fight or flight has been taken out of me because of my training. I will stand and fight, win or loose. I have to die someday. I WILL DIE STANDING UP WITH MY BOOTS ON! NOT ON MY KNEES!

    Sgt.

  7. Ron Ahrens says:

    Only way to disappear now is with no communication with ANYONE by any means, putting on a backpack and heading very deep into the Northwest or Canadian Rockies, surviving by eating bugs and wild edibles, and only using fire in extreme weather conditions where nobody else is around-that is the only way I know of to COMPLETELY disappear from this Orwellian Fascist Police State nightmare. Makes absolutely NO SENSE to run at this time anyway, stay put and when gun confiscation begins inflict as many casualties as possible on the fascist boot licking gutter swine filth-that will be the only way to make the fascist boot lickers turn on their criminal corrupt vile evil government controlled by Corporatist Fascist psychopathic genocidal monsters.

  8. slingshot says:

    Run? Run where. Hahaha!

    Going to “Gun Tub” it.

    You all would get a good laugh with my screwed up knees and crooked ass watching me running across the field to get away.

    Don’t want to be a refugee either.

  9. RoyInNC says:

    I am of the same mind and inclination as the previous 5 posters have expressed, and I’m in the same age group. I encourage every patriot minded citizen to read the entire text of the speech given by Patrick Henry. It inspires me.

    Merry Christmas!

    • 1vet says:

      Amen to that!!!

      It was the night of the 25th-26th of December in 1776 that Washington crossed the Delaware with his gathering army. Giving their all and doing deeds written into the history books I studied as a child…

      T’aint no running here and where am I going???
      They will have to have the courage to stand in front of us to take our lives…

      Who knows maybe we’ll make honorable mention in the freshly printed history books???

  10. Kulafarmer says:

    Merry Christmas all,,,,
    Hope everyone is having a nice peaceful weekend,

    Run?
    Why run?

    Rather just get the inevitible over with, there are things you can run from but this is one challenge it will just be better to face, if not why bother

  11. Stolz Vorfahren says:

    MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of you and yours (excluding the trolls) from a gun owner, a Christian, a home schooler, a patriot and a prepper who seeks the truth each day and knows exactly who is behind the current human destruction.

    • Them Guys says:

      Stolz: Merry Christmass to You also! you are one of the Few that have followed the money trails, connected them Dot’s, and when it finally began to paint a picture of true truth as to the Nation Wrecker “Enemys of God and of all Mankind” aka Another biblical verse…

      And you then percievd that to proceed ANY further on that proverbial path to true truth, backed by real factual Facts…Would be akin to what is called “The Third Rail” Taboo of all Taboo’s…..instead of following in the footsteps of 99+% of all former folk which has also began a quest for truth, and simply abstained and Turned Back asap Fast!

      You Stolz have taken that Plunge!….you have not just touched that Forbidden Taboo Third Rail, you rather have Jumped up and Down Hard with Both feet Barenaked and first soaked in water for best rail effect!

      And…You have Proven as have a small Few others that did likewize, that “yes Virgina” one Can research and Learn real true truth, discern the real enemys as Gods own words prior defined Via His book, and…SURVIVED Intact!

      And for That…I Salute you Stolz! and Pray that you and your’s remain safe and sound for we still sorley Lack enough folk whom also have acomplished the task of truth research, so to be able to awaken and alert others as the Good Watchman of the Lords apointing.

      Too bad we fellow watchmen cannot somehow form a group only known to ourselves eh….and do so in Person on a regular basis for future plannings etc.

      Perhaps though, it is best we all remain far apart so those evil nefarious devils cannot locate us all at once in same location!….

      I believe the Lord has always apointed watchmen in every generation, tasked with first learning real truth, and discernment, and then being able to do what is actually Most difficult. Ie: that being a most difficult task of not only speaking out or posting replys online etc, but to be able to effectivly speak to ALL types individuals and or groups from small few to very Large size groups, about the real “hidden in plain sight” Truths once learned of.

      I am talking of actually speaking out at random and at every possible location/setting/event be it family gatherings, friends BBQ party, to well over a Thousand folks at some town hall type meeting etc…And regardless of the Always to occure at such speak-out’s, those inevitable Hate mongers vile calls of every degrading name kommies have invented…Vile names such as Evil Nazis! Hitler lovers! jew haters!!! Rayssis! and the one average, Fearfull of truth type folks Most Fear, an Antisemite!

      I never yet met you Stolz, nor met any others from shtf as yet…However I Know many like You have had that happen far more times than you can likley now tabulate.

      And no matter How well one believes to know how such kommie/msm, brainwashed name caller types really feel about it all…only After this occures to You can one really comprehend that it is They who are so Filled with vile hate for Truth and especially hate of them what tells it!

      For by their very nature and from the depth of their pitch black darkness inner souls…Those types are Hell bent on total destruction of You for being as you are as a real watchman/speaker, and they are also Hell Bound and wish to take You/Me/Us types with them when they arrive there.

      Merry Christmass Brother, and may the Lord Christ keep and Bless and protect You Stolz and your family also no matter What the future holds regarding what I wrote of here…And Thanks for also teaching me a few things I new not prior!…Them Guys

    • Anonymous says:

      Merry Christmas to you as well, from a Christian, homeschooling, home birthing, gun owning, gardening, Patriot and prepper who seeks to live each day for our Lord. Living in rest and quietness while still carefully educating and preparing for the worse case scenario.

      Happy 1st night( oops, think we are into 2nd here).

  12. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

    I ain’t running but I can tell you this much. Invading armies and soldiers prefer cities. If I can leave I will, if I can’t I am going to kill a lot Chinese soldiers, jihadist, etc..

    It looks like they want a reality show showing us preppers that we have no where to run the at we are a total failure..
    Are sure you have a lot of. 50 cal it’s deliver method to take down the killer drones that will be hunting us down post SHTF. 6 days till the city battles begin.. 2016 the year that the laughing stops, the year that all women go into mass panic, they have lost their jobs, they have divorse their husband because he lost his job, but they don’t read step quayle.com, this site and other ros of like mind, so they have nor plan, and they are dead..of course the canal needs to show us that we are also dead.. we already know that that while have the second amendment.. just saw on allnewpipeline.com that Dallas makes feeding the homeless a crime punishable with a fine..so city council in dallas feels that letting people starve to death in the streets is the right thing to do.. Dave you made right decision, don’t let the cabal war game us.. you were smart in figuring out that one..phuck them. You just canceled their field false flag that they could have used to set you up and out you in the media as a whole terrorist, saying that you attacked them in set, then set you up and killed you on that set, called you a domestic white terrorist and then put you in the media and destroyed life, die your hair orange and then out you on TV, taken your land and worst..they were going to set you up..smart thinking on your part..luckily the inhabitants in my area are very viscous and aggressive. Foreign soldiers will be running halling ass..

    Aka,

    HCKS..

    Finally made the red list..

    • Leonard says:

      I wonder if TPTB aren’t bankrolling this tv show to see what strategies we might employ so they can better anticipate what we’ll do. I’m sure they try to brainstorm and second guess us for the day they come for us, but with all of the creative thinkers in our community, they know some of us will figure out ways to evade them for months, possibly years. They want to see inside our heads, and what better way than to offer you “stardom” on tv, and a cash prize if you beat them, while all they want to do is learn from us. Why would any of us want to help THEM?

  13. Jerry C says:

    I’m right there in my attitude with all of you old-timers… I too am 60+ years old… and I too swore an oath that I will not back away from: “to defend…”.
    However, I have also adopted the attitude of Gen. George Patton: “no sob ever won a war by dying for his country, you win a war by making the other sob die for his”…. Hey, if the Muslims are so willing to die for what they believe, and I’m willing to accommodate them – what’s the problem?
    Even with all the modern technology the military forces can bring to bare against the American civilians, history has shown TIME AND TIME again, that guerilla warfare tactics are the most effective. Take one shot and disappear… make it count… time and time again.
    Some will say: “that’s not honorable.” I say stick-it. The battle slogan I embrace is this: “if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck”.
    Also, another point to consider is this – if your family is old enough and trained enough, the best way to possibly insure their safety is for every single one to go their own way… and trust that the “God appointed angels” (Psalm 91) will keep them safe “unto that day when Christ returns…”
    We all know “it’s” coming, so, I wish “God’s Speed” to all my extended “Christian” family, and I say “Happy Hunting”….

    PS Remember, they’re always in season, and there’s NO BAG LIMIT!! Stay calm, stay smooth, stay mobile, stay light, stay on the move…

  14. mamasita says:

    They came to my gun store and tried to recruit all of us. The young employees wanted to do it. $1,500 a week with $100,000 for eluding 30 days. It sounds like a cool concept in normal times. But, (there is always a “but”) these are not normal times. This was a wakeup call for all of the experienced folks in my shop. It got us all thinking. Hmmm.

  15. Sailing Jim says:

    I heard a recent saying that I think rings true for this topic.

    “There’s a lot more old rabbits than there are old bears”

    Run, no. Evade and stay around to evade some more, yes.

    Merry Christmas to all.

  16. K Fema Region 3 says:

    If then Jews would have resisted when the Nazi’s came for them, the Holocaust may never have happened.
    Lesson Learned!

  17. RoyInNC says:

    Jerry C. – You are absolutely correct. An almighty oppressor can never conquer those that are determined to fight a guerrilla action against them. Robert E Lee surrendered and encouraged his men to lay down the contest. He was afraid that it could devolve into a guerrilla war and go on for the next 100 years!

  18. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

    Running is for pussies and cowards, the two words that I fail to recognize it’s meaning. One thing is a certainty is that I will kill the enemy, once I Realize that I am dead this makes me extremely dangerous to that enemy. What do I think this way. I plan on telling my real story soon. You all would be shocked to see what happen led to me between the ages of 5-12. Then what happened to me at Katy High school set the presidence, and the very reason why I train, bodybuild..and practice martial arts.. several dred lock incidents paved the way to curt level and if anyone tries to hurt me or other innocent Americans, the response on those soldiers will be lethal..my past and my story as a victim is very bad, a horrific one. I will write it when I am in the mood..

    Aka,

    HCKS.

    I ain’t running and if I am stuck here then so be it. We all have to die eventually. How I choose to die is what makes me a little different.

    • Snake Plisken says:

      I like the way you think!

      I’ve never run from a fight and have never started one in my 53 years on this beautiful planet.

      I will not run, will not capitulate nor will I compromise when my life, liberty or prosperity are threatened. You mess with those particular issues I hold dear then it’s on. I will stand and fight just like our ancestors at Concord in the beginning of the war against British oppression when we suceded from the British empire.

      We must all stick to gether and be prepared to weather any storm that afflicts us.

      I admire Hcks’s position. Stand and FIGHT even though it might mean the ultimate sacrifice. At least you know you did your very level best whilst taking your last breath. You stood and fought!

      And what about these Moslem dick heads of fighting age pouring into Europe? Why don’t they pick up a AK 47 and fight the ISIS murdering rapists? They leave their wives and children behind to go for the ‘ soft life ‘ in Europe while their wives and children are sodomized and terrorized in the Islamic sh!tholes they escaped from.

      Either they are complete cowards or pussies who only care about themselves. They will also become the next bomber to explode in a Swedish coffee cafe.

      Ah well, I guess that this post won’t see the light of day. I’m too un PC to meet the commenting policy requirement but I do feel better having typed out this response.

      Best, and Have a happy, happy Holiday Season!

      Snake

  19. Shinmen Takezo says:

    This show “Hunted” operates on a phony premise that when these so-called hunted people are found… they will meekly surrender, smiling and go joyfully skipping off to the craft services trailer for organic burritos cooked by the production company’s personal chefs.

    Not so.

    What is reality will happen?!
    Imagine the “hunters” being also hunted.

    If said hunters come across their prey–it will not be pretty, or peaceful. People will stand up and fight back. No proclamation of “martial law” could ever be enforced comprehensively in this country.

    There just aren’t enough government thugs, policemen and soldiers to keep a lid on the entire country. It just can’t happen. They/them would just be engaged in more wishful thinking. In fact if martial law or a tyranny situation would arise–somewhere between 3% and 8% of this country (FREEFOR–Free Force) would stand up to tyranny (10,000,000 to 19,000,000)… and these numbers completely dwarf the number that THUGFOR (Thug-Force) could muster (2 million).

    Martial law and tyranny would be a short lived scenario.

    • I honestly hope to heaven that at least 8% do stand up. After seeing martial law during the Boston Marathon Bombing and how no one stood up was disheartening. No, matter. Regardless of how others react (or fail to) my family and I are prepared, to quote a scriptue; “As for me and my house we shall serve the Lord.”
      I pray the time will never come but I am not blind to what is going on around me, if and when the moment comes barriers will be erected, covering fire will be commenced in predetermined fields of fire/killzones, retreats to predetermined rally points will be made and we will then regroup and commence guerilla war to the best of our ability.
      I will fight for my family my freedom my God and my country. I was born free, I will fight to stay free and I will die so that my children will live free.

      Merry Christmas to all!!!!

      • 1vet says:

        I’ve always said no Texan would ever be put in a fema camp…

        The reason why??? There wouldn’t be any storm troopers to man the towers…

        2,000,000 TOTAL storm troopers in the mix??? sheaaat!!! We’ll take care of that ourselves and then lend a hand where needed afterwards!!!

        On Black Friday every second and a half a background check was being run to purchase a weapon and that doesn’t even include CHL buyers because no check is needed here in the Great State of Texas for such and we are some gun buying son of a guns!!!

        I see where NY had two demorats propose a bill where you can only buy 2 magazine or cylinder loadings of ammo every 90 days??? Can’t be 10 round mags so you’re allowed 14 rounds every 3 months or 56 rounds a year???

        Unfriggin’ believable!!!

      • Leonard says:

        Massachusetts gun laws are very harsh, that’s why no one in Boston could stand up. Without weapons, you’re just a fun target for the jackbooted govt thugs.

    • Philosopher says:

      I agree. At a maximum they have 3 million, maybe. Against 100,000,000 million folks that are armed? I am borrowing this quote from Game of Thrones, “we are the many and they are the few.” Indeed. It would be easy to round up the city folks but good luck rounding up folks in the countryside because we grew up running those hills, climbing them, fishing them, hunting, and tilling the land.

      I just finished reading Matthew Bracken’s trilogy, “Enemies Foreign and Domestic.” Impressive. If you have not read his latest article on Western Rifle Shooter, you should. Compares the Muslim invasion to the Tet Offensive. Long article but worth reading and passing forward to interested parties.

  20. 2isone says:

    Running in real life would involve larceny. This is something they really will stay away from in the show, but that would be reality.. A stolen license plate or breaking in to a vacation house or camper would be a natural human action to take. College campuses are a great place to hide, at any age. And you can actually eat pretty well in a college cafeteria/food court setting because people generally leave their trays with unfinished food on the tables. Not that I would recommend that as a way of life, but all of these things are something to think about BEFORE you need to do it. One thing every prepper should have is a Coach shirt, preferably for a commonly used mascot team. I had an old sweatshirt that I dug out of lost and found one day after an exercise class when the weather outside had turned cold. It said “property of _____ nursing department” on it although we were far from that hospital. I realized after wearing it that people responded to the shirt favorably as well as to our real (at the time) coach shirts. It is amazing how willing people are to help you with phone calls… rides… when they think you are civically responsible. You really would have to use common sense knowing how to use that- like ” my wife took my phone by accident this morning… may I use your phone to make a text?” One thing, blind hitchiking is one of the most dangerous things you can do… man or woman. It is better to fish for rides from sports venues and places where people have their guard down and are moving in groups.
    I really would not want to live the life of a fugitive, but I think I could for a bit.
    Best way to avoid it is to stay gray.

  21. Woogie says:

    Using a debit card is dumb, if any corrupt gov’t entity was after you, they would check the activity of your accounts and where you purchase—a dead give away to your location!

    Cash is king being on the run, and so are disguises or complete makeover when you have to go public. If you are tracked by dogs, set false trails to give you more time, find a ride and get out of the area. Don’t go where relatives/friends think you will go, and change clothes often- from someone who already wore the clothes.

    Escaping means you can fight another day, and the element of surprise by making them think you aren’t around is the best offense.

    • Genius says:

      Woogie, good advice. Avoid direct confrontation at all costs and hit them from behind when they least expect it. Learn guerilla strategies and false trail laying. Someone here said that white pepper will get dogs off your trail. Mantraps and sabotage and leading the enemy to the X spot for elimination. Leave behind some nasties for them to find. Your mind is your best weapon!

      • genius i have to reply with this pepper myth cause i hear it so much,i used tracking dogs in he military all pepper does is make the dog sneeze theirby clearing out his sinuses allowing the dog to track ur sent even better u need to concentrate on fooling the handler,ie if ur in the woods do circle in thick brush around trees make it difficult maybe tangle dogs lead rope ive seen handlers get pissed at dog and drag them away, in cities mix in crowds mix ur sent up.dogs are diffcult to fool and frustrate handlers are not. hope this helps.

        • Genius says:

          I wonder how cayenne pepper would do? Or some meat in a coyote trap lol.

          • Woogie says:

            Tests show pepper or hot pepper does not work on dogs. Going in water and dripping off molecules from you body makes your trail easier. Making a false trail may give you more time for the delay before they pick up the right trail. The only thing I know that has confused the dogs for a while is changing clothes (and shoes/socks) several people have already worn, and throw your own old clothes in a river. Dogs will take to the river to follow those old clothes with one strong human scent rather than multiple human scents mixed with a hint of your scent. What you need to do is get distance between you and the dogs, and get away in a vehicle as your best bet.

    • Philosopher says:

      Woogie: every prepper should have cash. The bail-ins and capital restrictions used in Cyprus and Greece were test runs. Money is no good if you don’t have it and can’t get it or if the government has taken it. I have three cash currencies plus PMs on hand. USD, Canadian dollar, and Suisse franc. If you live closer to Mexico it might be worth having some Mexican pesos on hand. PMs are the universal currency.

      If there is an EMP or the grid is hacked or their is a bank holiday or a wide-scale disaster the electricity gets cut off which means the ATMs don’t work.

  22. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

    Shimen Takezo, welcome to the board.. that is a fact, good post. But the sons of bitches may drop a bio weapon or EMP the phuck out of us, rendering us neutered.

    Aka,

    HCKS

    Agency ass clown super moderator..

  23. Infidel-2 says:

    Folks the moment you step out your door to run, and yes to get to your BOL you have become a refugee-homeless at total mercy of others, that is something I believe you don’t want period. If you are planning to go to a BOL go now before any of the bad shit starts, why because for every hour it takes to get there your chances decrees by 10% after the shit starts flying. Remember choke points the main being any and I mean any bridge big or small, the big ones you more than likely will not make across to the other side. Use common senses please with all your planning.

    Merry Christmas and a safe New Year!

    • TEST says:

      The people headed to their BOL Dec. 29, 1999 for Y2K, or right after 9/11 came back a few years later, dead broke.

      The issue is a little more complex for those of us who are not independently wealthy.

  24. Nunya Bidness says:

    ” Just like I would right now, if I went on the run I have a debit card.””

    Huh!? You cant have a couple hundred dollars in cash?

    Sew a little cloth pocket the size of dollar bills into
    your waistband if you’re too paranoid about being robbed, which, outside of liberal utopian cities, is a remote risk at best.

  25. Warchild Dammit! says:

    The society gets so bad and feel the secret police after me,only have to hide short term,at that point tis game on,going carefully on the offensive.

  26. Jesus told Potions Pilate that his kingdom was not of this world. He never told his followers to “defend” any earthly kingdom. He never told his followers to kill anyone. His way was not what anyone within this movement advocates. Your Jesus is a false Jesus, your Jesus is an American creation and not the Jesus of the Bible.

    Are you realy willing to sacrifice your lives for a lie? This country and every nation will fall. Have you considered that our current condition could actually be the Judgement of the actual Jesus upon a blind and defiant people? What other nation claims to be, “one nation under God?” What other people claim , “In God we trust?”

    While claiming to be a nation of chritian believers, we stand by while millions are slaughtered in the womb. A people addicted to prescription drugs, to pornography. A place far more evil than Sodom and Gomorrah combined.

    What are you defending exactly? All your guns, all your preparation, all your pride will take you to the exact place every rebellion took your predecessors- straight to hell.

    I seriously urge all of you to read thoroughly read the entire old testament and not just cherry pick what suits your cause. You are following the path of the proud. You can’t love this world and also be a follower of Jesus.

    • You need to go live in a cave or something. We have to interact with the world, We have to work, shop etc.
      What kind of father am I if I wouldn’t even attempt to protect my family by any means necessary?

      • grandee says:

        Kingdom Christianity, what America has forgotten

        Lu 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

        “We have to interact with the world…”

        true

        however- 1Jo 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

        hybrid christianity, what America practices

        • Philosopher says:

          There sure are a lot of judgemental Christians in this forum! When things get rough, who do you want watching your back? A half-assed Christian or a Muslim? It cracks me up the folks here that act like they are holy and know the absolute interpretation of whatever particular version of the bible they are reading and they want to be damned sure that you feel inferior. Gotta love that Christian charity on this of all days, Christmas.

          I am a sinner. I am sure as hell not perfect. I don’t know every damned bible verse by heart. But I get the big picture and that has always been good enough for me. Some of you so-called Christians on here act like know it alls and have the attitude of “your way or the highway.” Sure. Let me know how that works out for ya. Jerks.

          • grandee says:

            Philosopher, my reply is not a judgement of you or anyone.

            “When things get rough, who do you want watching your back?”
            Jesus !

            “…they want to be damned sure that you feel inferior.”
            I, too, am a sinner saved by His Grace.

            “your way or the highway.”
            Don’t you want to know if the bridge is out in the big picture?
            I was most thankful when someone pointed out to me that my bridge was gone and if I continued on down the road I would plunge to my destruction.

            All we so called “know it alls” can do is let you know what’s coming.

            I never give my views, but God’s, from His Word.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          GCO sounds like a J.W. Poor lost soul.

    • Philosopher says:

      Yes, we can. I am not a nihilist. Sad to read comments of so-called Christians that show no empathy, no kindness, and only talk about the “right” way to be a Christian. The “right” way to read the bible. The “right” way to practice the Christian Faith. I never liked authority figures. Not even those standing behind a bible. I can read and I can think for myself. My life is none of your business and neither is my spiritual life. That is between me and God and you can butt your way out. Thank you.

    • False teaching here from GCO.
      Pray about what you say to others. The salt and light on earth isn’t there to just go give in. WE aren’t to provoke but are to defend. We are here to continue the gospel and defend what is right and pure.
      Jesus didn’t ask us to give our families to slavery, rapists and murderers. Our God is the same as he ever was. He is unchangeable.
      Fighting evil spiritually and physically if required is the mission.
      Asking your family to quickly walk to the guillotine so your executioners don’t have to break a sweat isn’t being a real Christian.

      • grandee says:

        I know i’m gonna get hammered here. Sigh.
        Again from God’s Word:
        (plz don’t shoot the messenger here)

        Drt says:”but are to defend” and “defend what is right and pure”
        God says:Eph 6:10-18 is our weaponry from the Operations Manual-God’s Word.

        Drt says”We are here to continue the gospel”
        God says:Mt 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
        Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
        Mt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

        Jesus says: “Teaching…whatsoever I have commanded you.
        Theses are His commands, not mine.

        Drt says:”Fighting evil spiritually and physically if required is the mission.”
        grandee says: Spiritually YES!!
        grandee asks: Where physically? Where does it say Jesus said that?? Where??

        Drt says: “walk to the guillotine”
        grandee asks: you mean to their death, right?
        God says:
        Stephen did
        Ac 7:58 And cast him (Stephen) out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man’s feet, whose name was Saul.
        Ac 9:1 ¶ And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest…

        James did
        Ac 12:2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

        Many others did
        Heb 11:37 They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword:…

        Secular history continues the story of CHRISTian martyrs down through the ages.

        If you can show me one place in God’s Word where Jesus says I am to take the physical life of anyone, of any enemy- then I will stand with YOU and kill that person. Man, woman or child.

        • 1vet says:

          Psalm 18:32-34 the God who equipped me with strength and made my way blameless.
          He made my feet like the feet of a deer and set me secure on the heights. He trains my
          hands for war, so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.

    • Leonard says:

      I HAVE read the old Testament. Moses was specifically ordered to go into areas God directed him, and ordered to kill EVERYONE in that land. I have little doubt, those he killed were the ancestors of those we call “ISIS” or “Al Qaeda”. Nowhere in the Old or New Testament is anyone directed to permit anyone else to murder, torture or rape or otherwise abuse them. Jesus allowed this only because he was fulfilling His mission to die for our sins. Your life is a precious gift from God, and allowing anyone to simply take it from you suggests you have little respect for the value of that gift.

  27. TEST says:

    Perverted science? Here’s what Churchill said about the last battle with the fascist socialists (Nazi = National SOCIALIST Workers’ Party, which adopted explicitly socialist planks at their first convention, Munich, Feb. 1920:

    “[Should Britain fail, then the entire world would] sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister … by the lights of perverted science.

    — Winston Churchill, from “Finest Hour” speech after Dunkirk during WW II (18 Jun 1940).

    And yes, Churchill was prescient.

    “We know enough to be sure that the scientific achievements of the next fifty years will be far greater, more rapid, and more surprising, than those we have already experienced. … Wireless telephones and television, following naturally upon the their present path of development, would enable their owner to connect up to any room similarly equipped and hear and take part in the conversation as well as if he put his head in through the window.”

    — Winston Churchill From ‘Fifty Years Hence’, Strand Magazine (Dec 1931).

  28. TEST says:

    Public enemy #1 … to the gay Brownshirts: Barronelle Stutzman, 72 yr old grandmother

    I give it a year or two before the book burnings start by the gay Brownshirts. Here is the 72-year-old florist being persecuted by LGBT – her story, her words. This story is for anyone who believes in liberty and the 1st Amendment, not just the religious.

    “I waited on Rob for years,” Barronelle Stutzman said, referring to the gay former customer who sued her for refusing to participate in his “wedding” to a man, shortly after speaking at the American Family Association’s luncheon at the annual Values Voters Summit. “He would come in and pick out unusual and different vases, and he’d just say, ‘Just do your thing, this is for Kurt’s birthday,’ or whatever, and I loved it because I got to get out of the box and make him something special. We had a great relationship. I really miss him.” Stutzman said she never expected prosecution from the state, which her attorney later told LifeSiteNews could bankrupt her and cause her to lose her business.

    “Rob and I had been friends, as I said, for years,” explains Stutzman. “And when Rob left, I hugged him – before he left, we talked about his marriage, and why he was getting married. I told him about three other florists who could do his wedding, and we hugged, and he left, and we were fine – until the attorney general and the ACLU jumped on board.”

    “I’m still a small businessperson,” says the soft-spoken grandmother. “This isn’t real to me. I still go to work. The store’s still open; I have a great manager and a great crew that take care of things while I’m gone, but I still go back and go to work, and do my job.” “I spoke about our freedoms” at the luncheon, says Stutzman, “and about Rob and Kurt and our relationship. I talked about how God’s promises are faithful, and that Christ gave His life for us, and what are we going to give for Him? And if everybody stands behind me, not behind me, and we be silent, then we have nothing left to fight for.”

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/prosecuted-florist-this-isnt-real-to-me

    “I think there is a gay mafia. I think if you cross them, you do get whacked.”
    – ultraliberal Bill Maher said on Real Time,

    • Philosopher says:

      I don’t know about book burnings. But there has been established a new DNS code for websites that are unavailable due to being censored. That code is DNS 451 after Ray Bradbury’s infamous book about censorship and book burnings. Few people even bother with books these days. Thus the adoption of DNS 451 as a heads up to those that are awake and aware. The new censorship is already happening. It is what is not in the MSM or the nightly news. It is the websites that you don’t click on because you fear reprisals such as ending up on a “terror watchlist.”

      • Them Guys says:

        Yes internets now being highly censored almost like in EU nations where many truth site are off limits and cannot be accessed period…Some states even has stiff monetary fines and Jail time for voilations of censored sites if accessed by stealth.

        But as Least them what must keep their Taboo-Status going can always count of Gate Keeper’s such as Test here eh.

        First he posts some truth like stuff about marxist kommies or frankfurt school of Cultural marxist methods as used by leftists etc…but then Test never fails to finsih his spew screeds by Twisting actual marxist Kommies, Into…Nazis! when it was germans nazis and military in general which fought against and to End Soviet Bolshevik Comunists and Their evils etc!

        As a Good shabozz Gate keeper, one must always cover up the Real enemys of God and of ALL Humankind in such ways I rekon…Sure reads akin to leftist kommie Sal Alinsky Tactics no?..And of course alinsky was a member of that “Taboo” group too…unless we can Twist alinsky into a rageing evil mad Naziboy eh?!!

  29. Ron Ahrens says:

    Because it is Christmas, I was doing a little Bible Study, yes atheists still do Bible Study, Koran study, and just about all other religions, I came across this while I was doing research on the Seven Deadly Sins and the interpretation of all religious works regarding the sins:

    “While no list of the seven deadly sins appears as such in the Bible itself, each of the sins is condemned at various points in the text. A list of seven sins that God hates is found in Proverbs 6:16-19”:

    “There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers. (New International Version)”

    IF ALL THAT DOES NOT DESCRIBE OUR CRIMINAL NEW WORLD ORDER PSYCHOPATHIC CONTROLLED FASCIST GENOCIDAL GOVERNMENT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT DOES!!!!!

  30. TEST says:

    WHY MORNING WILL, IN FACT, COME:

    “Recognition of the inevitability of comprehensive bureaucratization does not solve the problems that arise out of it.”—Joseph Schumpter, Capitalism, Socialism and Democracy

    Many of us—including me—worry about the downward arc of liberty, ethics and economic freedom. If you are taking the time to read this short article, in all likelihood, I needn’t detail the myriad challenges we face, even at a high level. Rather, the question is: is there any hope? Or are we fated to descend into a new Dark Age, aided and abetted, in the famous words of Winston Churchill regarding National Socialism, by “perverted science?”

    Notwithstanding those who look forward to the return of Jesus Christ—of which I count myself one—or a spiritual revival, are there any other reasons to hold out hope in the interim? I think there is reason for optimism. It is not a certain hope, but is a hope that—accompanied by courage, elbow grease, intelligence and audacity—should give conservatives, libertarians, Constitutionalists and other allies a reason for positivity. And please note by “audacity,” I do not allude to the book by Barack Obama, who is one of the leading unlights pushing us towards a new Dark Age; rather, I make reference to the words of a true American hero, George Patton, whose motto was “Audacity, audacity, always audacity.” Patton, of course, led the charge in destroying a similar national socialism we see here today.

    What is this hope for a better morning based on? Simply this: the leftist experiment has always and everywhere—by virtue of its complete misapprehension of human nature – eventually reverted to its natural ouroborotic state. It is, as Jacques Mallet du Pan (1749—10 May 1800), wrote about the first leftist reign of terror, in his 1793 essay that ”…the Revolution always eats its own children” (“A l’exemple de Saturne, la révolution dévore ses enfants”)…

    The article continues at http://canadafreepress.com/article/70600 Canada Free Press, BTW, is a GREAT companion website to Mac’s, and should be part of your regular reading if you like this site.

  31. Jim in Va. says:

    I’m staying. i’m in my mid 60s and too tired and pissed to hide. Take some with you, the others will think twice.

  32. markinaz says:

    Off Topic but check out http://map.norsecorp.com/
    1:28 pm Mountain time. Incredible large scale hack attacks going on. Oh well we will see. Merry Christmas Everyone!

  33. 1st sgt says:

    I would recommend that those worried about this and other scenarios like this, check out and join Oath Keepers..

    We are NOT the militia, Even though the militia is every red blooded, country and constitutional loving American.

    Check it out, Make up your own minds. Don’t believe what the very people that would oppress you would have you believe. Make up your own minds, create your own narrative.

  34. Barn Cat says:

    I’d change my appearance. I’d shave my head, grow a beard, and wear sunglasses.

    I’d leave on the Greyhound bus. Go at least 500 miles from where I live now. I’d live in a cheap flea bag motel. I’d say I lost my wallet. I’d pay cash. I’d get a job in a mom and pop restaurant working for cash. Or at a junkyard working for cash.

    I’d leave everyone behind. I’d be very difficult to find.

    • Them Guys says:

      Why not just Dress and appear as a orthodox long bearded, black too tiny small wide brim hat wearing and funeral director type black suit wearing Rabbi?

      Become a fake member of the only Taboo group in existence and Nobody shall ever bother you at all…99.9% of folks will So Fear being labeled an antisenmite rayssis they all will cross walkways and turn tails to go in opposite directions just to avoid any close contact with you acting and dressing as such.

      Plus in the Rare as hens teeth event of once per Billion chances you dressed as such, and by chance had the fed fbi on your trail?…The odds are the same as always have been so far that, the odds are 10 Billion to one that the fbi would transport you free of charge and withOUT any formal charges, to Israel where once arrived there you are as they say Scott Free of ever faceing formal charges, nor extridition by ANY other nation states leagle authorities ever again as long as you remain within state of israel.

      The Real actual rabbis and non rabinical wall street type jewish folks that do this always end up free as a bird for ever after…Its fact too! Just research 5 dancing Israelies at 9/11 events and many many more times any of them ever had any dealings with any form LEO or Fed cops etc…..in Real world stats, the small few who ends up in a usa jail, amounts to a needle in haystack comparision when compared to All other goy type persons.

      Kinda like a tribal get outta jail free card AND get to Keep that stolen loot too…SEE John Corizine and his theft of $3 Billion from investors and corazines Free Pass zero Jail, zero charges, tribal connections for further proof of this swell option plan…But you May need do a name change in direct Opposite as to what they usually do for name changes…Ie: while They usually change real name to a new more white man sounding name such as Mr. McDonald or Mr. Smith/Jones etc…You would need change name to something akin to…Mr. Shwinestien or Mr. Goldberg etc prior to going into hideing in Plain sight! but never choose a name like Shvartza! for its their nickname for negro folk.

  35. Cellar Spider says:

    Oh my god, this is too funny….

    1000+ law enforcement, millions of dollars to find two escaped convicts on the run.

    1000+ law enforcement officers and millions of dollars to find eric frein.

    1000+ officers, 5 years, and millions of dollars to find eric rudolph.

    The result….They can’t figure out anything. So, they turn to Sumner Redstone at CBS, offer 100,000 (50,000) after taxes and watch a bunch of “preppers” elude law enforcement under the auspices of a reality show. What a case study.

    LEOs (#1 implementors of NWO Policy) are a mess. NWO can’t defend against the number one act of defiance, non participation (aka off the grid). So they need more observation. Seems as though we’ve discovered their achilles heel.

    Too funny.

  36. Ranch says:

    You all here at shtfplan may have pure and honest plans but keep in mind that the doomer end-is-near, I-need-a-bunker crowd has some very crazy people such as this P Keller.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Peter-Keller-3702751.php

  37. Thor says:

    Stay at your location while it is safe to do so. If you have to leave, keep your enemy at a distance but know where they are and assess the situation for weaknesses. Act when possible and set traps if they try to capture you to slow them down and make them think twice. Be a thorn in their side, a thousand little pricks will eventually cause a strong enemy to grow weak. Merry Christmas

  38. Nopitypartyhere says:

    Got my ham license this month. There is a free downloadable manual at Barnes and noble and Amazon. I paid $4 for an app that repeatedly quizzed me. I only took my technician exam. I was not aware you can take all three exams the same day for $15. Based on reviews from a prepped site linked from this page I got the bao feng bf-f8hp. $50 but has more watts if needed. Got the repeaters programmed and you can download the law enforcement/open military channels to scan. Something to think about.

    • markinaz says:

      Thanks. Added this to my ‘Must get list’ ear marked for next month. It is nice being employed once again so I can get these types of items.It will be added to my set of 3 Motorola walkie talkies, Tecson PL880 shortwave radio (which I really like and works VERY well) and 3 Goal Zero 7 watt solar panels for lights and recharging stuff. All put up when not in use in my Faraday box. Will be looking forward to scanning the LE and mil coms.

    • Nopityparty, cool. I am going to look into it.

      BigB

  39. I think this show is designed to teach TPTB any tricks they may have overlooked. While it’s extremely difficult to disappear, it’s not impossible, in spite of all the technological advances. I just hope those with that knowledge are smart enough not to give out those secrets to win a game.

  40. WarVet says:

    Nothing’s impossible, but the way I see it, you would have to live like a hermit, totally self-sufficient, so extremely remote, probably in a cave, that no one would then be interested in finding you anyway!
    If I was wanted that badly, I would rather just go down fighting!

    • NorseMan says:

      Good point. It may be ‘fun’ to evade for a few weeks, but ultimately you are measuring your current lifestyle against the lifestyle you will have while ‘on the run’. The ‘run’ lifestyle is not too pretty even for just individuals. Assuming the government is looking for ‘you’ and is not merely doing a ’round everyone up’ – then the government knows about your BOL so that is not safe.

      About your only hope for a ‘normal’ life would be to ‘do a Snowden’ and flee the country – hoping for anonymity or asylum in another country.

  41. Diane D says:

    A ‘Reality Show’ where those hunted cannot kill those hunting them? Just what you would expect from the land of King George.

  42. Archivist says:

    I was going to tell what I would do, but I might have to actually do it or help someone else do it. So I can’t post a how-to here.

    The British show gives the fugitive an hour head start. I know I could completely disappear for a month easily, especially if I knew weeks or months ahead of time that I was going to be on the show.

  43. Brace For Impact says:

    That plan should be to round these traitorous psychopaths up and put THEM in the FEMA camps. Our motto would be…We want our money back. There are billions of rounds of ammo out there, already paid for.

  44. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

    Snake, welcome to the board. It’s good to know that others share my sentiment..people have no phucking idea how serious things are when you are living in a neighbourhood and foreign soldiers come in..its always happens in this order..

    1)Execution of all males in the city.

    2)Mass rape of all women and girls.. for days until all of them are dead and their raped a mutilated bodies are nude all over the town and cities.. how do I know this. I know and old man from Germany who told me what he witness with his own two eyes when the soviets and allies invaded Germany..he suffers from post traumatic stress and told me why. He had to listen when he was 10 years sold women and girls getting raped right across the street from him and he is witness executions, rapes, shootings, women screaming getting raped day and night everyday follow by the soldiers shooting them and their families before they leave, he was busy hiding in rubble..

    3)All surviving males that are captured are then shot and dumped into a mass grave..

    Any questions?.

    How do I know this. Because I know a lot of men who have gone to war and this is what they told me they saw..i know a soldier that was in the Congo in and area where he had to walk through a city to see the bodies of hundreds of women and girls and told me what the rebels had done. It was horrific, extremely bad, bad, bad not only did they rape them, all of the women were shot at point blank range, and a lot of them were chopped up by machete’s..

    Women have no earthy idea what men do in war unless they experience that themselves and lived to tell the story…now this type of crap is coming to the United States..but first they want to force the people to disarm.. it make it easier for the soldiers to rape, kill, attack and massacre the civilians..of course they need to take the guns, lol what happens when you can’t shoot back..can you imagine what Chinese soldiers are going to do since all of them have never even seen women other than their own, once they get here..you think they won’t shoot us men, and mass rape the women and girls. Think again..we must never give up our phucking guns under any circunstance. Only stupid retarded dumb phuck men do this crap..

    Bring this type of sh….t to my city an town,role in tanks, fore in us, phuck with women, girls, people and it’s war. I will fire on your invading forces…any jihadist of foreign soldiers reading my post.. your going to die in my city..

    Aka

    HCKS..

    Molon Labe bitches, come and take it if your can.

    • Licker says:

      The Soviets brutalized the Germans in retribution for the German atrocities in USSR. The Germans screwed up badly. They could have easily turned the Soviets against Stalin, but they were barbaric instead because they were winning at the time.

    • Anonymous says:

      HCK. Awesome post and you are so right. I tell my family and friends the same ideas. They call me names and make fun of me. If they call me unhinged one more time, I will show them what true unhingement looks like. If they say I am bipolar or have anger issues, I will show them the true meaning of their bullshit words. Unite and revolt

    • Carl W. Livingston says:

      Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf,

      I have to agree with you. The typical U.S. American citizen (save those who were in the U.S. military and have actually fought in the name of U.S. interests) has absolutely no idea of what is coming to this country.

      Our founding fathers must be turning over in their graves!

      You know, Jesus displayed righteous anger on several occasions, the most notable being the whipping in the temple.

      There is a time for love and a time for hate, a time for peace and a time for war!

      God is NOT passive and there is much scripture backing this up! Even Jesus tells us that, then He returns, he comes as the Lion of Judah. And further, Jesus told His disciples that “I come not to bring peace, but to dived” His return will be as a warrior, to destroy evil!

      What kind of coward would not defend himself or his family or friends?

      It is suicide, to submit to tyranny!

      As for this Romans chapter 13 idiocy where, the sheep have been brainwashed into believing that we are to submit to the government authority in all things, that is a load of crap!

      This current regime is about as evil as it gets! God does not expect his people to submit to an authority that forces abortion, homosexuality, fornication, same-sex marriage, unjust wars and the adoption if perverted ideology of Islam! Are not these the same abhorrent abominations that eventually cause God to bring judgment against Israel in the Old Testament?

      What is taking place within this country is Gods judgment because the people has chosen to remove Him from The United States of America. The proof of that is the fact that the godless people of this country has elected (or allowed the appointment by external powers) the ungodly Barack Hussein Obama – not once, but twice! And the real judgment comes from the destruction this evil creature has caused to this country.

      The forced immigration of the Muslim refugees IS God’s judgment upon this country for turning against Him and reveling in evil.

      This government is not a Godly government and therefore fall out of the prescribed requirements within Romans chapter 13! It’s quite simple. Romans chapter 13 relates to a government which served for the glory of God. If this government is an ungodly government, meaning that it is ruled by a body of leaders who despise Godly ways, it means that this government is not of God – it is evil!

      How can we call ourselves a Godly people is we serve and submit to an ungodly authority or government? How can we say that we are to follow the mandates of Romans chapter 13 if the highest authority forces ungodly things on it’s people, such as abortion, homosexuality and same-sex marriage? How can we follow the mandates of Romans chapter 13 if the highest ruling authority has removes the One True God from all its basic founding principals and replaces it with false gods, such as abortion, homosexuality, same-sex marriage and the most vile of of religious cults – Islam?

      Those two swards??? You had better be sharpening them because we are quickly leaving that time of peace you have long enjoyed and are approaching fast approaching a time of war, and not in some other foreign land – it will be in the U.S., your cities, your towns and the streets of your neighborhood!

      WAKE UP AMERICA! YOU ARE BEING INVADED AND THE BATTLE FOR YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!!!

  45. Mountain Trekker says:

    One of the great things about living in the North Country is, that in the winter time all the Snow Birds homes are empty and just looking for an uninvited caretaker. I would almost bet that most have heat and maybe a little food in the pantry. Trekker Out. Just A Thought.

    • 2isone says:

      Yep-
      Same goes for fixer upper real estate listings in the middle of nowhere. No food or heat though:) Around here, we have a lot of hunting cabins and deer lease properties. Not a permanent solution, but it would work for a bit.

    • Genius says:

      MT, There was a guy around here doing just that a couple years ago. He just went around breaking into cabins and living in them. He got away with it for a long time too.

  46. Jack says:

    This is why you should hope WWIII involves an EMP event powerful enough to throw us back into the 19th Century. If society collapses but leaves the infrastructure intact, an evil power would easily locate and kill everyone who might oppose it.

  47. Anonymous says:

    When the powers-that-be, themselves, become “the hunted”, then, they’ll have another thing to think about. They can watch their power structure disintegrate in front of them and know that the enemies they’ve created by wielding it are not going to overlook it.

  48. Anonymous says:

    Hide? Or, battle!

  49. Now is the time to create a second secret id for your new born children. Easier now than later in life.

  50. breck says:

    Problems,problems………your mind is the least of your problems. Won’t see you on the other side.

  51. Edwin : O'Keefe says:

    Advice for anyone who is survivalist, prepper, former military. DON’T teach them the secrets ,. Don’t go on any of these shows. This is the worm on the hook people.
    Let these pigs find out the hard way.
    ……To all my brothers, and sisters out there..
    …………SEMPER FI…………..

  52. Sticking to the theme of this post, I don’t think people have any idea how hard it would truly be to go on the run and not be caught. There are places in this country that you could go out into the woods and live undetected, but you would still have to avoid contact with anyone you came across. The one thing all of the TV reality shows have in common is you know they are going to end after a short time and you can go home. Now imagine leaving everything and everybody you care about and never having contact with them again. Never really participating in regular daily routines, because the more you do (like driving) the more likely you are to get caught. In today’s world of technology, if you are truly on the run and the government is looking for you, anything you do could result in you being caught. There would be no car, no driver license, no hunting or fishing license, no regular cell phone, no real job, no bank accounts and no real friends. You could trust no one. This is why most all convicts eventually get caught, even after 20 plus years. They screw up and make one small mistake that draws attention to themselves.

  53. Little bit says:

    Go to JJ Luna website. Read his books on how to disappear.

  54. Carl W. Livingston says:

    The typical U.S. American citizen (save those who were in the U.S. military and have actually fought in the name of U.S. interests) has absolutely no idea of what is coming to this country.

    Our founding fathers must be turning over in their graves!

    You know, Jesus displayed righteous anger on several occasions, the most notable being the whipping in the temple.

    There is a time for love and a time for hate, a time for peace and a time for war!

    God is NOT passive and there is much scripture backing this up! Even Jesus tells us that, when He returns, he comes as the Lion of Judah. And further, Jesus told His disciples that “I come not to bring peace, but to dived” His return will be as a warrior, to destroy evil!

    What kind of coward would not defend himself or his family or friends?

    It is suicide, to submit to tyranny!

    As for this Romans chapter 13 idiocy where, the sheep have been brainwashed into believing that we are to submit to the government authority in all things, that is a load of crap!

    This current regime is about as evil as it gets! God does not expect his people to submit to an authority that forces abortion, homosexuality, fornication, same-sex marriage, unjust wars and the adoption of the perverted ideology of Islam! Are not these the same abhorrent abominations that eventually caused God to bring judgment against Israel in the Old Testament?

    What is taking place within this country is Gods judgment because the people have chosen to remove Him from The United States of America. The proof of that is the fact that the godless people of this country have elected (or allowed the appointment by external powers) the ungodly Barack Hussein Obama – not once, but twice! And the real judgment comes from the destruction this evil creature has caused to this country.

    The forced immigration of the Muslim refugees IS God’s judgment upon this country for turning against Him and reveling in evil.

    This government is not a Godly government and therefore falls out of the prescribed requirements within Romans chapter 13! It’s quite simple. Romans chapter 13 relates to a government which served for the glory of God. If this government is an ungodly government, meaning that it is ruled by a body of leaders who despise Godly ways, it means that this government is not of God – it is evil!

    How can we call ourselves a Godly people if we serve and submit to an ungodly authority or government? How can we say that we are to follow the mandates of Romans chapter 13 if the highest authority forces ungodly things on it’s people, such as abortion, homosexuality and same-sex marriage? How can we follow the mandates of Romans chapter 13 if the highest ruling authority has removed the One True God from all its basic founding principals and replaced it with false gods, such as abortion, homosexuality, same-sex marriage and the most vile of of religious cults – Islam?

    Those two swards??? You had better be sharpening them because we are quickly leaving that time of peace you have long enjoyed and are now fast approaching a time of war, and not in some other foreign land as you are so accustomed to! No! The war that is coming will be fought within the U.S. borders – your cities, your towns and the streets of your neighborhood! And you will discover – FIRST HAND – all of the evil that it brings!!!

    WAKE UP AMERICA! YOU ARE BEING INVADED AND THE BATTLE FOR YOUR VERY EXISTENCE IS ABOUT TO BEGIN!!!