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“War Is Likely” After Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet, Ignores Putin’s Warning

Melissa Dykes
November 25th, 2015
The Daily Sheeple
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This article was written by Melissa Dykes and originally published at The Daily Sheeple.

Editor’s Comment: The escalation to war is expected at this point, but quite unfortunate. Turkey is showing its hand in stirring the world to further conflict, and sponsoring terrorism, which it is using as a tool for regime demolition in Syria and the region. The United States and its forty thieves partners in the Middle East are bound and determined to use chaos to build order, and use war to push back imminent threats against the economy.

WWIII is how far away?

“War Is Likely” After Turkey Shoots Down Russian Jet, Ignores Putin’s Warning

by Melissa Dykes

It seems like full-blown war is only two seconds away with the wicked brew boiling in the Middle East. The latest?

Turkey shot down a Russian warplane near the Turkish-Syrian border yesterday, claiming it did so after the plane violated Turkish airspace and was given ten warnings to leave which were ignored. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said they decided to shoot it down because the plane “did not answer our warning”.

Both pilots bailed out. Russian media later reported that one of the pilots was killed by fire ISIS shot at them from the ground. Turkmen forces in Syria said both pilots were shot dead as they parachuted from the plane.

The US Ambassador to Turkey then Tweeted “Understand this: Turkey is a country whose warnings should be taken seriously and listened to. Don’t test Turkey’s patience. Try to win its friendship.”

However, the other pilot did survive, and he said that no warnings were received from Turkey before the plane was hit.

In response, Putin shot back with some pretty harsh language, saying this was a “stab in the back” by the “terrorists’ accomplices”:

The shooting of the plane, Putin said, “represents a stab in the back by the terrorists’ accomplices. I can’t describe what has happened today in any other way. Our plane was downed over Syrian territory by an air-to-air missile from a Turkish F-16 jet.

“The plane fell on Syrian territory 4 kilometers (2.5 miles) away from the Turkish border. It was flying 1 kilometer away from the Turkish border when it was attacked. In any case, neither our pilots nor our jet posed any threat to Turkey. That is obvious. They were carrying out an operation fighting against ISIL in Northern Latakia.” (ISIL is another acronym for ISIS.) (source)
Putin also said this would have “serious consequences for Russia’s relationship with Turkey”.

And, to sum it up, you know what Turkey said back?

“Warning ignored.”

NATO then called an emergency meeting, as Obama, Hollande, and others publicly called for de-escalation.

Meanwhile, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called Turkey shooting down the plane “a planned provocation” and an “obvious ambush”.

Analysts are already saying this could potentially lead to not only war, but nuclear war because Russia is being told they cannot fly near the Syrian-Turkish border where all the terrorists are hanging out.

Via the Daily Mail:

One of Moscow’s most respected military analysts said war was ‘most likely’. Pavel Felgenhauer said Turkey was seeking to protect an area in northern Syria controlled by its allies, the Turkmen. The analyst said Mr. Putin must either accept this zone ‘or start a war with Turkey’ which it could win only by going nuclear.

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Author: Melissa Dykes
Date: November 25th, 2015
Website: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/war-is-likely-after-turkey-shoots-down-russian-jet-ignores-putins-warning_112015

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  1. eppe says:

    Starting to get messy everywhere…

    Be well all…

  2. Really??? says:

    Nah. Too much to lose. No war for you.

  3. Stolz Vorfahren says:

    Vlad should know the targets. Please Mr. Putin….GO FOR THE KILL AND END THE ZIONISTS plot using everything in your arsenal in a global manner.

  4. Hillbilly says:

    Putin has a strong track record of being a man of his word. If he says this is going to start a war the world better listen.

    • What Hillbilly said –

      Putin is the guy who doesn’t draw some queer ass line in the sand and tells others not to cross it or else.

      Putin doesn’t waste time with schoolyard sissy tactics.

      Putin says … Putin does.

  5. Nobama says:

    I like Turkey. Fried is the best. Go get ’em, Mr. Putin. Don’t let that little pot-smoking halfrican punk in the white house get in your way.

  6. Jacknife says:

    there is so much deception being employed by every faction involved in this quagmire that we won’t know until it happens. For example, who really knows for sure that was even the actual pilot of that downed fighter plane that was being interviewed? If it was then why was his back turned? Whatever the answer is, it’s rooted in deception. One thing for absolute certainty is that most here know where all this ultimately leads. Keep you eye on the ball and stay focused.

  7. Seen2013 says:

    Most of the wars in modern memory have been wars that promote Big Government and supranationalism through chaos and destruction.
    Russo-Sino aren’t any better as both have encouraged granting supranational institutions as the United Nations, World Bank, and etc to mitigate these wars of chaos. This is called conquest by peaceful means, and it’s central argument is only Global Governance can bring about world peace.

    Same old b/s just a different era.

  8. Braveheart1776 says:

    Nobama, I agree. The muslim virus in the WH won’t do shit. Putin can do what he wants to the turks. they’re only muslim savages anyway.

    • javelin says:

      I hope you are right BH, but I believe that O-bama will do EXACTLY as he is told. Would O have the kahunas to pick a fist fight with any hetero, blue collar male ( or let alone Putin)–of course not. We must remember however that O is just a tool ( all innuendos intended) who is primarily an empty suit who was groomed and crafted for doing exactly as the men behind the curtain wish. Ultimately, he will do as he is told.

      • I agree. Obama has never been a Muslim commie whatever. He was put into the Presidency by the banksters and remains their tool. He does as told. So did every President since Reagan, except Jimmy Carter. The hounds of hell went after Carter. The elite has their Republican government to shift to unlimited contributions to candidates. Game over, fascism reins.

  9. lolong says:

    You have a bad heart you racist nit wit

  10. Anonymous says:

    War is inevitable.

    And the United States will be a part of it.

    On the wrong side, of course.

    • lena says:

      “War is inevitable.”

      Second. Maybe not nuclear, but definitely world wide that throws the the usa into a severe depression.

      my advice remains. if there is a trip you have been putting off or something you wanted to buy or even something as simple as holding off eating at the best restaraaunt in town, to go ahead. if ww3 starts, you might never get the chance to do these.

      • slingshot says:


        Are they going to fry the planet or just use battlefield tactical nukes. Pop a few EMP’s and set the world back to the 1800’s. Neutron bombs or a few chemical and biological attacks.

        Know the warning signs.
        What you need for protection.
        After the attack.

        Are You Ready?

      • Lone wolverine says:

        The king of the north ,the king of the east and Persia ..And Damascus will become a heap of ruin.And mystery Babylon the greats piled on wealth will become nothing in one hour their eyes will melt in their sockets before their bodies hit the ground. Strong men’s hearts will fail in fear of what’s coming. And the merchants of the world by sea will wonder who they will sell their luxury items to . Because ounce great Babylon is no more.

  11. Shinmen Takezo says:

    Dear Mr. Putin:

    Would you please sink the entire Turkish Navy as payment in full for the lives of the two brave airmen that you lost two days ago?!

    The people (not the government BTW) of the USA stand largely behind you.

  12. WheelerRd says:

    ….and history repeats……

  13. Anonymous says:

    pakistan, iran, saudi arabia, turkey ALL finance terrorists.
    If these countries fell off the planet today, no one will notice except the oil!

    they are all muslim countries, they claim islam is peaceful, so why are most muslim countries violent or at war?

    • John_Allen says:

      @ Anonymous

      Am in the process of reading the Koran, Sira, and Hadith, obtained from the Center for the Study of Political Islam, Nashville TN, Bill Warner, Ph.D (physics) editor.

      Allah speaking to man; Mohammad’s biography; short stories illustrating his life.

      Maybe fifteen percent of Islam, in M’s Meccan period, is religious. The latter part of his life was in Medina, where he stopped being a religious leader. He became a politician and warlord. He was exceedingly good at making war.

      Most of the Islamis “trilogy” is about the Muslim’s relation with the Kufir = ANY non-Muslim. All of us on this thread.

      In brief, the non-Muslim can look forward to one of three things: conversion, dhimmitude (slavery, third-class citizenship) or death.

      The attacks around the globe aren’t from “2 %er crazies.” They are from Muslims who follow Mohammad’s Meccan period, who treat Kufirs as Islam with crystal clarity says they are to be treated.

      on Youtube, politicalislam. Center for the Study of Political Islam.

      The short answer about what Muslims want from the rest of us is: they want us dead.

      Change the term “terrorism” which is politically correct bullshit, to jihad, and you have the rightful name for what is going on. It isn’t an isolated thing. It IS civilizational war, war Islam means to win.

  14. Cellar Spider says:

    Unfortunately, this time, Putin is taking orders from Rothschild (Shell Oil) and Saudi (Exxon Mobile) Oil. Putin’s mission is to destroy ISIS’s Oil Industry and return it back to Asaad.

    Then, Rothschild and Saudi Oil can increase oil back up to $100.00 per barrel and Russia can start earning revenues again from Russian gas sold to Europe.

    Sorry folks, No WW III this time. Albeit it did look like there was potential for it yesterday.

    • Kevin2 says:

      Actually Saudi is working in lockstep with TPTB continuing pumping, driving the price down to bankrupt Russia. No nation is more controlled by the banksters than the USA. No nation has a greater capacity to destroy the Syrian Oil infrastructure than the USA.

      Connect the dots.

      • Kevin2 says:

        Cellar Spider

        The goal is to destroy the governments of nations with oil or in a geographic position of oil/gas distribution. Fragile governments don’t have the means to challenge the “Oil Peg” which is the cornerstone of the US dollars status as the worlds reserve currency. This is the main reason for the Iraq invasion, Libyan coup and now the disposal of Assad.

        The USA does not work contrary to the desires of the banksters.

      • “Actually Saudi is working in lockstep with TPTB continuing pumping…”

        I’m not too sure of that. They haven’t stepped up production to any degree. They are trying to maintain market share for when the price goes back up. Last time they cut, they got burned when others stepped in and stole their market share.

        Russia has the most hydrocarbons on the planet. They don’t lose much in FX at this lower price. They have devalued the ruble. They sell their product in FRNs(or Euros) and then convert them to rubles. With a devalued ruble they get close to the same amount in FX compensation. It might work to crash them if they needed FRNs to pay off international debt…but they have little of that and they have a nice size reserve of T bills already.

        Russia learned their lesson from the last time when the international oligarchs came in and stole their resources. Putin kicked them out and nationalized the oil and natgas. “No more oligarchs besides me.” He is on to the Empire’s tactics, I believe, and will not let it happen again. This is why Empire paints him as a “Hitler” and a villain.

        • Kevin2 says:


          Good take on the oil situation. Interesting perspective of how Russia’s economic transactions operate.

          The idea of loosing market share with oil does seem implausible however as oil sells regardless.

          These posts are why I like this BB where I read (and learn) from different well thought out posts.

    • Kevin2 says:

      Cellar Spider

      Look up the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Basically its a plan to keep the US as the one and only super power, one unrivaled Frank Nitti for the Al Capone banksters.

      The analogy comes from 2X MOH recipient USMC Major General Smedley Butler and his writings in, “War Is A Racket”.

    • @ cellar spider.

      I agree that Russia wants Syria’s oil fields back. They have been helping Assad develop his oil and natgas for years. Syria has the largest oil reserves in the Eastern Mediterranean and large undeveloped shale gas fields. They are allied countries. I posted a link to this effect about a week ago so I won’t post it again.

      They also would like to block the Anglo-Zionist pipelines from crossing Syria.

      The Wahhabi Saudis are on the other side and are trying to overthrow the Assad government to facilitate a Qatar gas pipeline.

  15. lolong says:

    Shouldn’t you dummies be at a Klan meeting or banging your sisters

    • ArmedPatriot says:

      The religion of piece is calling for you. Your the same duchedag that tells people you should kill all people that deny climate change too. I have a right to free speech and the right to my religion. Same as any other person. When they kill us to subject us all you’ll bow down to them while the free men fight. Go home boy the adults are talking now.

    • slingshot says:


      Oh that was so funny. Hahahahahaha!

    • Genius says:

      Damn lolong, did you come up with that all by yourself?

    • lolong –

      Yes you are correct, we are running late for our Klan meeting. I’ll pick you up so you won’t have to ride your pedal bike in the dark.

      We don’t bang our sisters, and neither should you.
      Make damn sure your mother has my money this time around … I’m not going another week without her paying me for servicing her.

      I’ll be there in 30 minutes … ’till then.

      卐 Seig-Heil 卐 brother ϟϟ lolong

      • slingshot says:


        Holy Shit!

        • Genius says:

          Ha ha ha good one FTW!

          • Sorry guys …. couldn’t resist the temptation that was put in front of me. I had to have a little fun with that post, and it was not long ago that I was gonna work a little better on my ‘mannerism.

            Oops … maybe some things should be just left as is … ツ

        • Them Guys says:

          Mandatory Vacines? Flouride in drinking water?

          No dates attached, but this guy was world famous writer and philosopher during 1920’s and 1930’s mainly. So This quotes of his Must go back quite far even prior to Our births!….Read what he says on above Two Poison issues.

          “When the conspirators get ready to take over the United States they will use fluoridated
          water and vaccines to change people’s attitudes and loyalties and make them docile,
          apathetic, unconcerned and groggy. According to their own writings and the means they
          have already confessedly employed, the conspirators have deliberately planned and
          developed methods to mentally deteriorate, morally debase, and completely enslave the
          masses. They will prepare vaccines containing drugs that will completely change
          people. Secret Communist plans for conquering America were adopted in 1914 and
          published in 1953. These plans called for compulsory vaccination with vaccines
          containing change agent drugs. They also plan on using disease germs, fluoridation and
          vaccinations to weaken the people and reduce the population.” (Impact of Science on
          Society, by Bertrand Russell)

      • Stolz Vorfahren says:

        FTW… Just loved your reply.

    • lena says:

      you know lolong, if you guys didn’t make songs about women as whores and killing cops and instead went to church, stuck with your women and were responsible fathers; we wouldn’t be driven to clan meetings.

    • Stolz Vorfahren says:

      lolong, Do they have klan in TelAviv? How is the weather over there? Are you still taking care of the ISIS savages in your hospitals and once they get better do they inbreed with your sisters to degrade your inferior DNA’s further?

      • Makemyday says:

        For Stolz, Lone Wolverine, FTW, JQP….

        Grandee had a comment held up in moderation back under the SHTF subject “Raw Video –Rebels Shoot Russian Pilots”. Because his answer was directed to all of us I was curious to see his post…and I suggest you will be interested too.

        He cited his information source came from:

        Wikipedia: History of the Jews in Russia
        And also quotes from the Anti-defamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center

        Some of his post:

        “Jewish Bolshevism also known as Judeo-Bolshevism is an anti-semetic canard (a false story including anti-Semitism) which alleges that the Jews were at the origin of the Russian Revolution and held the primary power among the Bolsheviks.”

        “A recent history of the intended use of world religions in WW1 concluded that neither Max Bodenheimers committee of German Zionists, not the Zionist Executives, nor any kind of organized international network had much of anything to do with either the February or October revolution.”


        Might I suggest a more viable source of information on the subject just might be Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Pullitzer Prize winning author.

        The first time English review of his banned book “The Jews in the Soviet Union” is at the Barnes Review. A free PDF can be found at:

        ht tp//vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres/walendy solje.pdf

        Read it and weep. You will see the blueprint for the takeover of America. Prep and pray.

      • Makemyday says:

        Stolz: I have a comment held up in moderation that I know you, Lone Wolverine, FTW, JQP, will be interested in.

        Grandee has posted a comment back under the shtf subject “Rebels Shoot Russian Pilots” which is his answer to the claim about who was responsible for the mayhem and killings in Russia in WW1.

        Be sure and look back at his comment and I hope you get to see my post that is in moderation.

        • Makemyday says:


          Happy Thanksgiving to you and to all here.

          Seems my comment has disappeared.

          Grandee sites Wikipedia as one of his sources in his comment. Wiki is the CNN of the encyclopedia world.

          Better source for truth about what happened in Russia around 1918 would be the famous Pulitzer Prise winning Russian author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

          You can find his banned book on what really happened in Russia during the revolution on a free pdf at:

          The Barnes Review:

          ht tp://vho.org/aaarg/fran/livres/walwndy solje.pdf

          • Anonymous says:

            “Banned” books usually aren’t available for free on the internet.

            Meditate on the word “banned” for a bit and you’ll understand.

            Out of publication or unpublished is a different subject, that is usually a point of financial viability.

            • Here is a banned book that is available for free on the internet:


              On release of the 1st edition of Pasque di Sangue: Ebrei d’Europa e omicidi rituali [Bloody Passover: European Jews and Ritual Homicide], the author bravely stated that he would stand by the facts from his research. Within 1 week of publication, the author was on his knees begging forgiveness, pulled the 1st edition, promised a heavily revised 2nd edition, and donated all the proceeds from his book to the ADL, his main antagonist. The author is Ariel Toaff, son of the retired Chief Rabbi of Rome.

              Toaff’s ordeal is described (with links) in the thread “Ritual Murder—truth is no ‘libel'” on my website. There is also a link discussing the ADL’s kosher edition.

              Amusingly the kosher 2nd edition sells for €23 (as if anyone would want one). The uncensored 1st edition sell for about €200. The online translation is…. free.

            • Wow! I just checked. The printed edition of the Lucchese and Gianetti English translation was pulled and DESTROYED. Copies of the English translation are now offered on Amazon for over $2,000.

          • ENFP says:

            Not Found
            The requested document was not found on this server.

            Web Server at vho.org

    • HBOMB says:

      See ur sister at the glory hole.

    • TickTock says:

      Look who’s talkin ya unclefucker!

  16. TEST says:

    It’s not going to lead to war, period. There will be payback in back channels, and maybe an escalation by Russia of their actions, and heck, they might even send something other than some ancient biplane that was shot down (wasn’t exactly state of the art plane that got shot down).

    Let’s detail real threats, not make believe ones. This wasn’t nothing, but it also is not the shooting of Archduke Ferdinand.

    • Mr West says:

      The American public will not support a false flag reason for war with Russia. Our military is not going to go along with it either.

      We all know who the terrorist is, it’s Obama.

  17. Anonymous says:

    All the “Zionist”-bashers on here are obviously government-supremacist trolls who want to paint this site and everyone on it as anti-Semitic Nazis. It’s those government-supremacists who paint themselves as being both anti-libertarian towards everyone’s individual liberty and anti-Semitic in particular.

    • Them Guys says:

      Anonamous = Test again…Plus a few more screen names eh test…Here try to out zio This…

      “Israel controls the Senate. ..around 80 percent are completely in support of Israel;
      anything Israel wants. Jewish influence in the House of Representatives is even
      greater.” (They Dare to Speak Out, Paul Findley, p. 66, speaking of a statement of
      Senator J. William Fulbright said in 1973)(in 2015 its 99.9% now! in Both Houses congress! Plus whitehouse! and State Dept! and 150 More fed agencies!)

      “The world Zionist movement is big business. In the first two decades after Israel’s
      precarious birth in 1 948 it channeled an estimated four billion dollars in donations into
      the country. Following the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, the Zionists raised another
      $730-million in just two years. This year, 1970, the movement is seeking five hundred
      million dollars. Gottlieb Hammar, chief Zionist money raiser, said, ‘When the blood
      flows, the money flows.'” (Lawrence Mosher, National Observer, May 18, 1970)

      AND one of the World’s MOST respected and accurate Historian of England whom Outted Real truth of WWII Lies we all was Told etc david Irving…Said…

      “…the incontrovertible evidence is that Hitler ordered on November 30, 1941, that there
      was to be ‘no liquidation of the Jews.'” (Hitler’s War, p. xiv, by David Irving, Viking
      Press, N.Y. 1977, 926 pages)

    • Anonymous says:

      “Insert polite comment here” 🙂

    • TEST says:

      These anti-Semites/neo-Nazis infest the site. Just ignore them. There’s some kinds of strange malady they have. I haven’t read them in months, though I did read your response to them.

      • Makemyday says:

        Some here, Test, believe you to be Anonymous/Test/Mac’s Kosher policeman/Moderator.

        Makes your posts more than suspect when your history lessons (which are allowed plenty of space on the threads; when other opinions (posts) are not allowed because they are deemed too long) never cover the Revolutionary years in Russia beginning in 1918.

        Wonder why your studies do not go back that far?

        • Hunter says:


          Your astute observation, per the gate keeper’s very limited knowledge of history…or at least what “IT” accepts as history…is, shall we say ‘damning’?!?

          ..but then again, “IT’s” type, have always endeavored to obscure & eradicate TRUTH & Knowledge…from the discourse.

          ..especially if such were to cast a serious focus…upon the wretched…synagogue of satan types.

          ..thumbs up to you!!!

      • In these days, TEST, when any honest man can check facts from his easy chair, your ritual name-calling has lost its mojo.

        It is not so easy for the children of the Father of Lies & Murder as in the days of Andreas Eisenmenger’s Entdecktes Judenthum when the Jews could purchase every copy to conceal the accessible vernacular translation of the Talmud’s wicked precepts.

        It is not so easy for the adversaries to all mankind as in the days of Sir Richard Burton’s 1877 manuscript treatise Human Sacrifice among the Sephardine or Eastern Jews, researched in the Holy Land by Burton when he was British Consul investigating the disappearance and ritual murder of Fr. Thomas. The manuscripts were bought up and placed under lock and key of the Trustees of the Board of Deputies of British Jews.

        No, TEST, these days your talmudic deceits and name-calling are easily exposed by any man with eyes that see.

  18. Asshat says:

    This is a distraction focus on the short term. Tomorrow is thanksgiving and after that you know what people will do. something is going to happen maybe mass attacks at stores by terror teams. I’m gonna stay home and watch the shit happen on tv. Just a feeling I have. People are fucking dumbed down so much they will put their life in harms way to save almost nothing I’ve seen the deals they are not that great. Let’s make this the worst holiday season for retailers ever. let’s use our collective financial power to keep our $ out of their bottom lines. Even if the prices drop through the floor do not spend. hold the Walmart and Amazon companies hostage. Don’t buy any durable goods nothing. I got $ but I’m living like poor working slob because I hate corporations so fucking much. Every corporation is scum and doesn’t deserve your $. It’s just that simple the only way they will ever feel the pain is if you hoard $ and keep it from them and gov. Just go to work and keep taking their $ they are fucking assholes and don’t give a shit about you or your family. They talk shit about you behind your back because they don’t have the guts to say shit to your face. Faggots. Fuck them and their bonuses they aren’t giving you shit. Help them fail seriously. Hey want to rule you and steal your labor then want to take their $ back when you buy shit that will break before it should so you will keep spending your $ on more shit.

  19. ISIS would be lost without their leadership and logistics branch.

    So, presumably, Putin is going to take out Obama, the US State Department, and the Pentagon.

  20. swinging richard says:

    Tomorrow is Thanksgiving Day. Best to all.

  21. Them Guys says:

    Why Not US Dollars like Lincolns Greenback dollars eh?..IE: Intrest & Debt FREE created money!

    “If this mischievous financial policy [the United States Government issuing interest-free
    and debt- free money] which had its origin in the North American Republic during the
    war (1861-65) should become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will
    furnish its money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without a debt. It will
    have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous
    beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world. The brains and
    the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be
    destroyed or it will destroy every Monarch on the globe!” (London Times Editorial,

  22. Roman Citizen says:

    Off Topic:

    Vetting Failure, a few years ago a sign language interpreter was vetted and then place next to world leaders at Mandella’s memorial. The sign language interpreter was a phony and had also been known for being violent and for having schizophrenia yet he still made it through the vetting process.


  23. Them Guys says:

    GOLD-Prices!! Who determines it? Supply Vs demand? Nope!

    “Five men meet in London twice daily and decide the world price of gold. They
    represent Mocatta & Goldsmid, Sharps, Pixley Ltd., Samuel Montagu Ltd., Mase
    Wespac Ltd. andM. Rothschild & Sons.” (L.A. Times-Washington Post, 12/29/86)

    Wow just gander at all them “Islamic Muslim” names huh!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Real gold prices are determined by what people are willing to pay for it and what sellers are willing to sell it for.

      How much you willing to pay?

      A thousand?

      Fifteen hundred”

      Two thousand?

      Make your bid on what you’d actually pay today if you are a buyer.

      But you might want to look at what other people are paying for it first, Ebay is a good starting place.

  24. Borodino says:

    Food on the table… and a roof that doesn’t leak… May all here have a thoughtful and thankful Thanksgiving. God bless you all, and thanks Mac for this site!

    • cradletograve says:

      Most Americans are familiar with the Pilgrim’s Thanksgiving Feast of 1621, but few realize that it was not the first festival of its kind in North America. Long before Europeans set foot in the Americas, native peoples sought to insure a good harvest with dances and rituals such as the Green Corn Dance of the Cherokees.
      The first Thanksgiving service known to be held by Europeans in North America occurred on May 27, 1578 in Newfoundland, although earlier Church-type services were probably held by Spaniards in La Florida. However, for British New England, some historians believe that the Popham Colony in Maine conducted a Thanksgiving service in 1607 (see Sources: Greif, 208-209; Gould, and Hatch). In the same year, Jamestown colonists gave thanks for their safe arrival, and another service was held in 1610 when a supply ship arrived after a harsh winter. Berkley Hundred settlers held a Thanksgiving service in accordance with their charter which stated that the day of their arrival in Virginia should be observed yearly as a day of Thanksgiving, but within a few years an Indian uprising ended further services (Dabney). Thus British colonists held several Thanksgiving services in America before the Pilgrim’s celebration in 1621.

      The Pilgrims, with a puritanical rejection of public religious display, held a non-religious Thanksgiving feast, aside from saying grace. In fact, they seem to have used the three days for feasting, playing games, and even drinking liquor.

      In 1623, the Pilgrims at Plymouth Plantation, Massachusetts, held another day of Thanksgiving. As a drought was destroying their crops, colonists prayed and fasted for relief; the rains came a few days later. And not long after, Captain Miles Standish arrived with staples and news that a Dutch supply ship was on its way. Because of all this good fortune, colonists held a day of Thanksgiving and prayer on June 30. This 1623 festival appears to have been the origin of our Thanksgiving Day because it combined a religious and social celebration.
      But in 1789, Elias Boudinot, Massachusetts, member of the House of Representatives, moved that a day of Thanksgiving be held to thank God for giving the American people the opportunity to create a Constitution to preserve their hard won freedoms. A Congressional Joint Committee approved the motion, and informed President George Washington. On October 3, 1789, the President proclaimed that the people of the United States observe “a day of public thanksgiving and prayer” on Thursday, the 26th of November.
      And so it states…..
      “…..Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be—That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks—for his kind care and protection of the People of this country previous to their becoming a Nation—for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his providence, which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war—for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed—for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted, for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
      And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions….
      …..Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

      Go. Washington.”

      What a massive contrast we can clearly see in this, our first president, when compared to the evil muslim dictator now in that office. Is it any wonder we are a nation in turmoil?

      • The first documented Sukkot celebration in the New World. The original Thanksgiving was a three day event, during the first week in October. Those days coincided with the eight day Feast of Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles celebration.

      • Sorry, Cradle to Grave, but the first Thanksgiving celebrated by Europeans in North America was celebrated by Spanish Catholics and Timucuan Indians on September 8, 1565 A.D. at St, Augustine, Florida.

  25. Satori says:

    Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey’s President


    Turkey-now part of the axis of evil
    state sponsored terrorism

  26. Lone wolverine says:

    I would think we are most vulnerable on New Year’s Eve ..many are at parties away from home in party dress. In freezing temperatures . All saying peace and security. Happy . New year. EMP. Us then . how many would make it home. I think it would be a good idea to stay close to home from now on.

  27. paleo says:

    When I was young and naive I believed the USA was good and USSR evil. But now days I believe Obama. the neo conservatives and the USA are evil and Putin, Russia, and the Brics are the straight shooters. We are the instigators of war and Russia the unwilling recipient.

    If Putin is smart, which I think he is, he won’t react in a knee jerk fashion to the downing of an out dated Russian bomber but instead will let things slowly unfold–let the west make another risky ill advised move like having the Israelis strike Iran. The oligarchy in the west is just waiting for an excuse to put the screws to mother Russia and their anti petro dollar antics. So Mr. Putin don’t show your hand. Continue to exterminate the rebels in Syria then go after ISIL and wait the west out. Patience is a virtue.

    Europe will admire your actions and learn to distrust the USA because you are a man of your word not a tool of the neo conservatives. Prop up Assad and Syria, further arm Iran, then squeeze the Saudis by pumping more crude further depressing the price of crude creating unrest among the 99% that detest the Saudi monarchy.

    If the end game looks like a non quid pro for you–simply unleash the valkeries and Satan and begin Armagedon. Surely the west has more to lose than the east. The ultimate question is this; who will blink first Johny Ringo or Doc Holiday. And Obama ain’t no Holiday, My money is on Putin aka Doc Holiday.

  28. 2isone says:

    Up at 3, cooking up a storm. Thanksgiving sure can shine a light on your preparedness stocks. What? No brown sugar? No maple syrup? No candied jalepenos?
    We are all still very blessed apart from the horrible news from everywhere. The only Turkey I am worried about tomorrow goes into my roaster at 8am. I don’t know if a few whackos are going to try to ruin the holiday by blowing something up or having target practice, but each day with family is a gift. Except if you have one like the one depicted in Genius’ poem.

  29. GETTING REAL says:


    Lets get it started mmmmmm ???? sounds like a song.

  30. AZ PREPPER says:

    Talk is cheap. Quit dickin around and take care of business.

  31. Jarhead says:

    I wish the juveniles would refrain from commenting.

  32. slingshot says:

    Just another day in the neighborhood.

    All the crazy shit is about to start.

  33. Anonymous says:

    Nope no war. Just another feer monger on here trying to scare the crap out of everyone.

  34. Anonymous says:

    Nope no war. Just another feer monger on here trying to scare the crap out of everyone.

  35. Asshat says:

    Don’t forget to go out after and give your $ to your oppressors. They’re waiting they have rolled out the red carpet for you. Just give up your$.

  36. Satori says:

    Today’s History Lesson

    Here’s The Crazy Story About Thanksgiving You’ve Never Heard

    ht tp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thanksgiving-squanto-tisquantum-true-history_565471e1e4b0d4093a5917bb

    and Happy Thanksgiving to the SHTF family !

  37. Fred says:

    After a critical review of data about the shoot down of the Russian plane one can easily see the Turks are obviously lying. Western media is complicit in the coverup of the facts. They are shills for the government and serve only to propagandize. You can bet the government hates the Internet and the ability of its citizens to bypass their control of information to get the real facts.
    The economic/financial is continuing to unwind; there is probably nothing now to stop it, even if there was a desire by the centers of power to stop it. That’s not the goal; the goal is to change our nation into ways the general public is not fully aware of yet. Invented wars, civil disruption, specific groups of society, etc. will be blamed why things have gotten worse for the people and to justify government grab for more control and power. Don’t believe me? Do some basic research on the Internet what ALL totalitarians do when concentrating power.
    In the coming financial/economic collapse it will be quite different from the last depression. First of all, most people were naive, they trusted government. Secondly, they did not have the ability to be informed by other technologies. Thirdly, though government was corrupt back then too, not to the degree of today. This time the government will have to take severe measures to control society and information. Probably total regulation of the Internet if not shutting it down; maybe even martial law. Of course curfews will be put in place, photographing in public will be outlawed, travel will be restricted, and attempted gun confiscation, and other “security measures” will be seen in many areas.
    Do not believe anything the media says or prints; truth is always the first casualty. Continue to get your information from other sources until they are shutdown.

  38. European Solidarity is not racism, it is self preservation.
    Every race has the right to protect itself from those who
    seek to destroy it, even white people.

    Give thanks and don’t feel guilty for being:

    !!!!!!! FREE. WHITE. and TWENTY ONE. !!!!!!!

  39. Houst/cypress/Katy/shtf says:

    February 2016-2017..www3 begins and revolutionary and civil war starts in America.. at this point with the what I have been seeing with the laws working against christians, etc..i see that Ed Dames is reliably since she is telling us what the scientist told me..its over, get ready for a mass extinction event..we are nor getting out of h this one now matter what anyone says coming in here criticizing me.



  40. alias says:

    It’s been a gas
    been a flip
    been a hell of a trip
    but it ain’t the end of the world!
    (oh yeahhh…………)

  41. Houst/cypress/Katy/shtf says:


    Ticktock..you Muslim fusion center employee for $7:00 and Hr..coming on here to indirectly threaten me won’t stop me from unleashing the facts. Everytime that you attack me and my comments, the ligitimate readers and comentors see that and then take my comments more seriously. I have literally lied to anyone on this board and have always told what I have heard and have been told..

    Ed Dames said that the war as in ww3 will start fist, followed by the environmental calapse and the solar system effects of Nibiru, and it’s sun, then that will curve the war when suddenly the soldiers are in the middle of the war and notice something in the sky, a color change. They then drop their weapons a.s start to head back to where they came from only to get cut off and attacked by the American. Patriots that wipe them out..and cut off holier food supply a d weapons supply.. the elites are not running into the DUMBS for the hell if it, this is coming and your idiotic lying supervisor is lying to you at the fusion center and you have zero preps and you will be a 97%- er that will not survive..ta ta,, you are already dead gone, liquidated by the dred lock. If your not a troll, then you better get prepping. But I think you are, want to know why.. sundown people do not ever visit these websites they are not interested. So it s looking like you are a troll..not looking good on your part. You are very stupid.

    Over 1,000 Plejaren Extra Terrestrials live in Houston and prevented over 6 terrorist attacks in my city. The regular commentors on this site will not know what I mean by this and you service men in the US Air Force that is monitoring this site damn well know what I mean by this..

    Keep it up keep pushing me in this site and I will release classified sensitive information on the alien presence in my city..


    Agency ass clowns super moderator.

  42. Mr Smith says:

    Israel had a plan to use deception so that it could steel land from Syria and to do that they needed to murder Mr Assad but the wheels have fell of the plan now that Russia has stepped up and exposed the american zionist puppets for creating ISIS and also giving weapons to AL-CIAda

    Al-CIAda came from Saudi Arabia and we have been caught by the world of giving the house of Saudi weapons like TOW anti-tanks missiles so add that to the 9/11 offical story and see if the building just fell over.

    No more american blood should be lost for Israel or Turkey or Syria and we realy need to do some spring cleaning in the USA before someone else is forced to do it for us.