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    Report: TSA Interrogates Travelers Carrying Gold and Silver

    Mac Slavo
    October 24th, 2011
    SHTFplan.com
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    Just when you thought your silver and gold coins were portable and outside of the realm of government intervention and scrutiny, we learn that the Transportation Security Administration  may very well be starting to scrutinize possession of such coins if you travel through checkpoints, be they at airports or other public venues:

    Via Infowars:

    A traveler flying into Las Vegas was questioned by the TSA about his small collection of silver coins, another example of how the federal agency is acting more like a secret police unit than an airport security outfit, routinely interrogating Americans about their financial affairs.

    Alex Jones talked to Jeff, a software engineer, after he passed through security, who told him that TSA agents had questioned him about why he was carrying silver coins and demanded to know their value. The screeners also asked if Jeff was collecting them for a hobby or an investment.

    Jeff explained that he was simply planning to cash in the coins and use that money on his vacation instead of dipping into his bank account. The total value of the coins was no more than $600 dollars.

    Alex Jones interviews Jeff after he was screened and questioned about his silver:

    Though reports of these or similar incidences are rarely, if ever, carried by mainstream news, they happen more often than you might think.

    You may be under the impression that gold or silver coins could be mixed in with regular coinage and transported without knowledge by screeners, but a post on the TSA Blog regarding an incident in St. Louis in March of 2009 indicates that TSA agents are on the look-out for travelers who possess precious metals, especially if “suspicious activity is suspected.”

    On March 29th, a metal box containing a large amount of coins and cash was flagged for additional screening. Any large amount of metallic objects in one place (loose change or rolls of coins) appear as opaque images and are difficult and sometimes impossible to clear without being searched. I blogged about this type of search last October. If we can’t see through something on the x-ray, we have to take a closer look by opening the box/bag. Due to the contents, the passenger was taken to a private screening area which is customary when screening money or high dollar value items such as jewelry.

    While it’s legal to travel with any amount of money you wish to carry when flying domestically, movements of large amounts of cash through the checkpoint may be investigated by law enforcement authorities if suspicious activity is suspected. As a general rule, passengers are required to cooperate with the screening process. Cooperation may involve answering questions about their property. A passenger who refuses to answer questions may be referred to appropriate authorities for further inquiry.

    Source: TSA Blog [TSA.gov]

    This is nothing short of a policy of guilty until proven innocent. If you happen to be of a world and paradigm view that differs from the status quo, you are engaged in suspicious activity. And if you attempt to opt out by refusing to submit to additional screenings or questioning than you get to join the millions of other people who are ‘on the list’ and will be from that point forth considered a domestic extremist. It’s as simple as that.

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    1. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

      Yes, hows that War on Drugs working for you! Where do you think these goons get their original authority from? Before there was a War on Terror, there was a War on Drugs. Civil libertarians have been sounding the alarm for years, but hey, “if you are not doing anything wrong then you don’t have anything to worry about”. Requirements to report money when traveling came out of trying to prevent money laundering from narcotics. Good thing those brave TSA agents are working hard at making sure you are safe from drugs…

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      • Sam not sam says:

        And that same arguement will be used to justify moving from a “cash”, physical fiat note to a digital currency.

        It is coming.

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      • Gregory8 says:

        Reporting reqiurements are for monetary instruments in excess of $10,000.00 which is reqired by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, but only when entering or leaving the United States. If this was done on a domestic flight, then something else is going on and we are in more trouble than we know.

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      • Ben Dover says:

        If I am not doing anything wrong, why are you hassling me?

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      • MadMarkie says:

        Isn’t it funny how the drugs, such as alcohol & tobacco, those which the government can control and tax are legal? Why is it that only the drugs that they can’t control and tax are illegal? Just ignore the idiots and their laws and they will eventually go away. Our poor, once great economy, won’t be able to afford their BS much longer. Become a ‘refuse-nick’ and simply refuse to notice them and their laws every chance you get. Don’t get yourself in in any trouble doing it; just become about the dumbest SOB that they have ever in their miserable life had to deal with whenever you come into contact with one of the nitwits.

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        • Forrest G Adams says:

          There is more money to be made by the system here. How do you think they justify themselves and their budgets?

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          • Dboy says:

            If it WERE just about trying to justify their existence and their budgets, then it would be a bit of a relief. But I think the reality is worse. This is a move toward government repression and conservatism, which began with the right-wing fanatic George W Bush. Bush was the beginning of the end; the most ignorant President ever, who paved the way for such notables as Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and Rick Perry. Anti-intellectualism accompanied the rise of the Naxi Party, and it’s happening again here in the US. The message is: don’t think, just obey. They use the TSA to train the population to be unthinking cattle.

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    2. the big D says:

      Nice to know that Americans can be counted on to take all of these offences lying down :-)

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    3. Hal Muller says:

      OK TSA, you can finger my genitals if you must, but touch my gold coins and you die!

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      • Dboy says:

        One option is to move your wealth back to dollars, move the dollars out, and then re-buy the gold….and store in Hong Kong. Am speaking from experience.

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    4. Mr. Blutarsky says:

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      • manos says:

        Mr Blutarsky,

        U n f o r t u n a t e l l y.

        Be safe.

        Manos

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        • Falcon says:

          Hi Manos,
          How are things in crete?

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          • manos says:

            Falcon,

            We are still in better condition than the rest of Greece.
            Each family has some small or bigger property in the country, so we have veggies, fruits, olives, nuts, potatoes.
            But as the austerity measures develop, i’m afraid that things will get wild here too.

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      • Iowa says:

        The answer to 1984 is 1776.

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      • Copout says:

        MR.B And the answer is 1 7 7 6!

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      • Mr. Blutarsky says:

        1776! Amen to that! That’s about what it will take to fix this monstrosity of a mess. Are there enough American’s left with fight in them? I look around me and think there are not. In fact, I think they’d be fighting for bigger govt – against the 1776 concept.

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        • Jimb says:

          No one is going to do anything.
          Americans will sit back and let every last freedom and right be taken away from them and their children and grand children. Americans will do absolutely nothing. Oh gotta go, Snookie is coming on the TV!!

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          • High Plains Man says:

            1.) The few that truly have the will AND would risk giving up their lives are too few and would not be able to organize effectively enough to constitute even a marginally imposing irregular force.

            2.) Any and all successful revolutions / guerilla forces received (are receiving – Taliban) out side material and financial support, i.e. American Revolution was supported – barely – from the outside by the French and Spanish. Today, the Taliban are supported by China, Saudia Arabia, Iran.

            3.) The vast majority of ‘us’ – including fire breathing gun owners – will wet ourselves and submit to evil in the vain hope that we can save our family or just ourselves (see Boston T. Party).

            4.) Decades of psychological and pharmaceutical conditioning inside the U.S. public education system has totally succeeded in “feminizing” American males and making them quite docile and compliant and psychologicaly fragile when exposed to extreme physical and emotional stressors, i.e. U.S. military suicides are epidemic and at levels never seen in previous wars.

            4.1) Just reported this week in the U.S. by CBS news and others: For the first time in modern U.S. history, the majority of U.S. adults – both men and women – are taking some level of medication to treat depression and / or anxiety…….THAT tidbit does not inspire any confidence in the propability of the majority of Americans eventually drawing a final line in the dirt, standing up to tyrany, and accepting what follows come hell or high water.

            5.) The Progressives HAVE won. We let them. We went to bed early and didn’t wake up until 6pm…….45 YEARS LATER!

            6.)It sucks. The Truth hurts. We can live with it and suffer for our stupidity and slothfulness or, eat a bullet and be done with it.

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        • Mr. B,
          There’s plenty of Patriots out here, but we don’t equal the number of old people who enjoy the entitlements, the welfare leeches, the farmer leeches and all the other “free lunch” leeches” who benefit from the status quo. I’m not sure how successful a new revolution would be, if 1/2 of the country loves and supports the current communist that occupies the White House.

          I’m afraid the best we can do is wait for the whole mess to collapse, take power after the collapse, form a new Constitutional Convention and add a few key amendments to the Constituion. Things like:
          1. Term limits;
          2. Legislation requiring our leaders to endure the same laws that the public is stuck with;
          3. New War Powers guidelines requiring Congressional approval.
          4. No pensions for serving in Congress or the Presidency;
          5. New tax legislation prohibiting the ability of the mob to vote themselves a “free lunch” and making somebody else (the “rich”) pay for it.
          6. Abolish the Federal Reserve System or at a minimum require the backing of our currency with a basket of commodities including gold, silver, oil, etc.

          Until we get to this point, however, we’re going to have to overcome the current crop of brain dead voters who support the current system.

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          • Mr. Blutarsky says:

            A collapse with this outcome would be welcome. However, I’m about 99% convinced that if there is a collapse we’ll have the exact opposite. Think communism.

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          • C Howard Fields says:

            Please include all judges to be accountable;

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          • manich says:

            Prez BO is not someone I support, but I will say this. Korporations are making record profits from what they made under Bush. Them Korporate-Kapitalists must love that Kommunism!

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          • 3. New war powers guidelines requiring public approval…only AFTER passing a civics exam and test of the Constitution/Bill of Rights.

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          • Torque says:

            This may answer your percentage question:

            What is a “Three Percenter”?
            During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came.

            Three Percenters today do not claim that we represent 3% of the American people, although we might. That theory has not yet been tested. We DO claim that we represent at least 3% of American gun owners, which is still a healthy number somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million people. History, for good or ill, is made by determined minorities. We are one such minority. So too are the current enemies of the Founders’ Republic. What remains, then, is the test of will and skill to determine who shall shape the future of our nation.

            Gratiously borrowed from: http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/

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          • Ben Dover says:

            When the SS raise was announced, another number was mentioned briefly..55 MM Americans recieve either Social Security or SSI payments. Quite a voting bloc.

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          • Patriot Party says:

            Perhaps you should learn to think with complexity, instead of overhyped, ugly stereotypes and trite cliches. The ‘welfare leeches’ ? I noted you didnt include the trillion dollar banksters or the corp CEOs of unending, stealth bailout wealth. Or are they ‘the rich’ you refer to who are “paying for us”? Just the single mom, whose husband wont pay child support?
            LOLOL Typical fool you are!
            Is the 89 yr old who has had soc security garnished from his pay all his life a ‘leech’ too? Or is that the arms manufacturers who make trillions in illegal wars, you dumb “patriot”??
            Your ignorance of single family, “farmer leeches” vs profligate, mighty and spectacularly funded agri-cartels boggles the mind. Has it already been GMO spliced with cow manure? Most farmers wouldn’t need or get subsidies if they hadnt been swindled by the banks and food industry etc to begin with… Do some research and THINK. Stop spouting the anti-communist, jingoist stupidity you have been fed. There is no liberal, conservative only the oligarchs who own both sides. CORRUPTION is a non-partisan employer.

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          • NicksTaxFree says:

            Hi T, I like all your ideas, but #2-6 are already in our Constitution.

            You think rewritting the Constitution will work a 2nd time?

            We need to get rid of all electronic voting machines and also not let party officials count votes in private.

            And we don’t live in a 2 party system, were is that written down?

            You think they will ever find the missing Ames Iowa 8 precint votes, I doubt they will if it shows Ron Paul won.

            I can smell the Democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • Mal Reynolds says:

          Mr B:

          The American Revolution started with maybe one in three colonists actively supporting George and the gang. Most historians agree that active support never rose above 45%. A determined minority can do a lot.

          We’re not at 33% yet, but I don’t think we have long to wait.

          Mal

          PS After the revolution, the loyalists that supported the crown were encouraged to leave along with the British soldiers. Where do you want to send BHO and Nancy Pelosi?

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      • lennea says:

        Please excuse my ignorance. But what does 1984 mean? Or can someone give me a reference I can look up to do the research myself. Again please excuse my ignorance and thank you for your help….

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        • Lemnea, check out this link: http://www.george-orwell.org/1984 .

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          • lennea says:

            :-) Thank you very much. I will read it now.

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          • Plane Guy says:

            You know, Mac, I’m guessing that “1984″ is not on the required reading list in our schools anymore. That’s a shame…

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          • ninaorket says:

            HEADS UP MAC SLAVO… WARNING WARNING WARNING

            (DemandProgress) – URGENT ACTION NEEDED: New Internet Blacklist Bill Could Shut Down Twitter And Youtube!

            A bit of an emergency: The rumor all over Capitol Hill is that the House version of the Internet Blacklist Bill will be introduced this week, probably on Wednesday.

            Our allies on the Hill say the bill’s so bad that it could effectively destroy Youtube, Twitter, and other sites that rely on user-generated content by making the sites’ owners legally responsible for everything their users post.

            Nobody will want to take that risk, so sites like Youtube and Twitter could be forced to shut down.

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          • lennea says:

            Thank you again. I just finished reading the book. And I now have alot more to think about. Also I will be reading the other 2 books suggested. Thank you all for your help. :-)

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          • Backwater says:

            After you read it watch the black and white movie with Rodney Mcdowell.

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          • rufus13 says:

            Our current society is much closer to that in Brave New World than 1984. Got Soma?

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        • And lennea, after you read that book, you must read Ayn Rand’s ‘Atlas Shrugged’ for a mirror of America’s situation today..how could she know??

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        • ninaorket says:

          it’s only ignorance … when you Don’t ask – WHY? ;0)

          if you don’t like reading the book – just read the cliff notes!

          Also check out ANIMAL FARM – great book, it truly shows you the dynamics of what is happening politically in america – the true mechanics of it…

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    5. Anonymous says:

      Knew it was coming! Better be able to prove it with receipts also. Papers please… I’ll bet he’s on the watch list now. Bet he paid his taxes on the money that purchased them.

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      • DocLRRP says:

        And, he paid taxes again, probably, when he bought them, if from a non online shop.
        An election in 13 months and I have to vote for who is less awful.
        Be well

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    6. ehhhhh says:

      TSA has been such a failure for their entire existence that they are bringing in Israelie airport security experts and beginning to adopt their tactics (the interrogations of passengers).

      I’m at a loss for words, really. There’s nothing to say other than America is an authoritarian police state.

      And…

      Welcome to the New World Order.

      Get out while you can still take your wealth with you. Cuz soon it’s gonna be exit visas required and gold/silver conficated at the border.

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      • ninaorket says:

        There’s something everyone and I mean EVERYONE needs to understand…

        THESE ARE ONLY PEOPLE! Just made of flesh bone and blood… very fragile… There is nothing special about them… nothing!

        They eat sleep and pee just as you do!

        and guess what they break/ die just as easily as you do!

        Do Not Fear Them! Fear is everyones own worst enemy during the times we now find ourselves living within!

        Do STAND your Ground! Do Not Fear… Others will soon Join You and Help you Fight! We Will come to your Aid!

        STAND your ground and we will come!

        `I am an OathKeeper!

        Don’t Tread on Me!
        Arm Up Stock Up Prepare
        Preditor or Prey the Choice is Yours!

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    7. Havok says:

      I sent my wife cross country with a pocket full of Junk Silver. They didnt ask her one thing about it. I dont think they realized what she really had.

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    8. VRF says:

      and with these acts, just proved that gold and silver are money..got that Ben Bernake?

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      • anonymous says:

        Just goes to show you they want it both ways. Can’t call a coin a coin unless it is made by the government. The government will sell you a gold/silver coin but will charge you more then the going market and they DON’T like competition will stamp $50 on a $1900 gold coin. And they don’t take cash. Think about that for a minute. They also want to tax it 25% or more on capital gains when you sell. They manipulate the market, inflate when they want to and still maintain the laws on the books to ask for it back while hiding the true amount that the government (we) owns. Cavity & fillings search anyone? Not talking dental but they own those records too including DNA.

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    9. ponomo says:

      i fly at night.

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    10. Southern Trumpet says:

      TSA = America’s brownshirts
      This agency needs to be scrapped.

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    11. European American says:

      You’re walking down the street. An unmarked car pulls over to the sidewalk. Three burly, dark suited, sun glass wearing thugs jump out. One yells, “We picked up on our scanners an inordinant. amount of metals on your person, up against the wall!”.

      You are thrown against the building, facing it, legs spread, with your hands reaching high and your arms spread out.

      They frisk you and find an ounce of gold tucked into the inside of your belt.

      The same man yells into your ear:
      “You are under arrest for the concealment and unlawful transportation of illegal substances valued at over $10,000. You will be immediately transported under the jurisdiction of the DHS to the nearest FEMA detention facility prior to your sentencing. Take this corruptor of the peace, away”.

      They cuff and blindfold you.

      You are never seen or heard of again.

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      • Yup, there it goes says:

        After the Apartheid era in South Africa, when Nelson Mundella took office, many whites moved country and immigrated to safer countries. You couldn’t take gold out and the new South African government even limited how much cash you could take. 1000 Rand in total, I think.
        Many white families turned up to their new countries with the shirts on their backs. So nothing new.

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      • Joshua says:

        That’s why carry concealed is not an option for me, it’s an imperative. It’s more important now than ever.

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      • On that note, I stated one of the most unnerving things for me is false documents; fake documents; incriminating and ‘created’ documents that you can’t refute—if they want you badly enough.

        Texas plane crash into federal bldg?? Shooting of Senator in Arizona??? How many of those documents gleaned and spoken of on internet were real, not faked??

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        sorry I hit thumbs down by accident. You comment was very good.

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    12. Sheepdog says:

      A friend of mine went to buy more junk silver. Retailer was out of it all except a few miscellaneous pieces. And normally there is bunches there. Silver prices have been down at the same time.

      So, the people who are selling to these places watch the prices too and wait to sell in the highs?

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    13. That Guy says:

      Depressing man, this is simply depressing :(

      Do you know how many people have been properly arrested by the TSA for being a legit terrorist/saftey threat?

      Do you know how many men, woman and children have been groped by the TSA looking for “terrorist”

      Do you know how many people have been arrested for “other things” while they were being searched by the TSA?

      Do you think the TSA is really looking for terrorist?

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      • durango kidd says:

        No. How many?

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        • That Guy says:

          ZERO (0) real terrorist arrested by the TSA.

          14 ka-trillion-million innocent old ladies and little kids sexually assualted by perverted TSA gropers.

          MANY MANY MANY people arrested for “other things” e.g. resisting, possession of illegal drugs, etc etc…

          btw-
          I would like to the exact numbers and how well the TSA drug possession charges hold up in court. Where is probable cause?

          With real law enforcement, in the real world (of America)if they get a real (limiting)(probable cause)search warrant to look for something specific, and they find some marijuana… (I dont think) they can not prosecute you for the marijuana becasue it was not in the warrant…

          How does this apply to the TSA?

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          • Sheepdog says:

            Actually, it depends on how the other stuff (drug) is found. Okay, there exists this theoretical warrant. Let us suppose it is constitutional and limits the scope of people, place, and property to be searched. That means that if they are looking for a stolen motorcycle, then they CANNOT search the contents of a suitcase or shoebox. Too small for a motorcycle. But if the search is being conducted lawfully and they happen to see drugs or other illegal stuff, that falls under Plain Sight, and it is good.

            But that dont matter, because if a search is illegal to begin with, nothing is good evidence, that falls under Fruit of The Poisonous Tree. TSA searches are only lawful if we submit to them. I won’t fly. Anyone want to come to my home and gripe my wife? Dead man. See? That

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          • Patriot Party says:

            There is no TSA. There is only a Gestapo in training, ready for martial law, where they will use the present practice and on the job training for later use as death squads and terrorists. They are the King Cog in the NWO infrastructure. The American Staasi & KGB.

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    14. MM2nuke says:

      All they will find on me is copper, lead, brass and a tiny but of steel along with a metal mechanical device that causes high metalic particulate in the surroundind air at 1400fps.

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      • delr says:

        delivered individually or in groups; their choice!

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      • Patriot Party says:

        And they’ve got particle beam guns, lazers, drones and acoustic canons that your taxes bought for them by the score. Yup- I’m sure that pistol of yours scares them to death. OOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhh!!! Makes them shiver with fear even! lolol

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    15. M59155mm says:

      In our supposedly capitalist society, one of the founding principles is the velocity of money. The more hands it touches, the more it flows through the economy, the better for the economic condition of us all.

      Is there any real danger in wealth possession? Do you constantly have to fight for your right to keep it, from greedy banks who make account holders pay for using their debit card, from inquisitive TSA screeners?

      Treat the coins like a dangerous weapon. It is anonymous wealth and therefore suspicious. That is the real goal of this intrusion. Build the idea that any unidentified asset is a tool for criminals, terrorists, and tax avoiders.

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    16. Anonymous says:

      Michelle Obama “all this for a flag”
      Play video

      She said. “They do all that for a flag?” His look: “Yeah, kinduh stupid isn’t it”

      00:00:26

      Added on 9/13/11

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      Okay…I’ve HAD it….REALLY had it with Michelle Obama.
      Her pronouncement years ago of being proud for the first time in her adult life of her country PALES in comparison to what she said during a 9-11 commemoration over the weekend.
      This anti American socialist blathering FOOL has gone WAY too far.
      There she sat on Barack’s right side as bagpipers played and an honor guard folded an American Flag. You know how it’s done… with reverence and respect, folded precisely and crisply… honored. It was during that moment that our nations “First Lady” leaned to her husband’s ears and asked the question that should set your TEETH on fire!

      “All of this for a damned flag?”
      When Barack nodded, she sat back and gave a look of disgust. There is no audio but you can clearly read her lips (An expert lipreader verified this). HE doesn’t show the least bit of surprise at her question!!

      See the video by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2SQUXjxUS8

      “All of this for a damned flag?”

      YES, ALL OF THIS FOR A FLAG!

      This woman is beneath contempt and in NO WAY worthy of the title she currently holds!!

      “All of this for a damned flag?”

      Michelle Obama has NO IDEA what that “DAMNED FLAG” is or what it stands for…NOT A CLUE!!!

      That flag… the stars and stripes to her must be nothing more than an old rag… just a pieces of cloth sewn together and not worth the consideration of a dust cloth.

      That flag IS the representation of the GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. That flag flies in honor of those who protect this nation with their lives. It stands as a symbol of freedom and justice in this world. It protects our liberty and our rights. Each star represents an individual state and each stripe one of the 13 original colonies.

      What irks me most is that he nods in agreement to her statement – we need to remember this on election day.

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      • ninaorket says:

        Wow ya can really see it… ;0P being a gulf war vet, knowing this bitches and her nwo bilderboybugger cia backed illegal alien fruity hubbies barry soetoro history really makes one desire to wipe the ugly look off her face with the sole of ones bloody combat boot!

        awesome , and these muthafo’s are in charge of nukes people! simply awesome!

        hey michele , hey gurl , come visit us in montana… i’d love to take ya hunting sometime! ;0P snicker snicker

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        • eric says:

          oh i hear you! thanks for posting that. what a bitch from ehll, no respect at all. she is so fake just like his husband. i dont give a rats ass who monitors this. i hate this sob more than ever now. thanks for showing that honestly, she does not give a rats ass about this. totally lost respect for that stupid snicker licker

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      • Plain Old American says:

        Who hates America, liberty and the idea of self governance more? The Kenyan and his female or the millions and millions of hate filled morons that voted to help this commie usurp the office?

        We can recover from this adolescent couple and their disastrous four years in office. I am not as sanguine about recovering from all of those that disparaged truth seekers as “birthers” and those that bought the propaganda of these truly evil people.

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    17. VRF says:

      War

      thats what this is
      War

      We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
      that you cant trust freedom if its not in your hands

      Look in the doubt we’ve wallowed, Look at the “leaders” we’ve followed, look at the lies we have swallowed

      But the wars go on as the years go by, with no love of God or human rights, watch these dreams get swept aside

      maybe a clensing is in order..Maybe they will have a higher power to be held responsible to..

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    18. Boycott says:

      Transacting
      Sexual
      Assault

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    19. Boycott says:

      ‘…the State, which subsists on taxation, is a vast CRIMINAL organization far more formidable and successful than any “private” Mafia in history . . .’

      http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/lazarowitz2.1.1.html

      Get the picture, folks.

      TSA will never quit, until you BOYCOTT the airlines. This Thanksgiving and otherwise, drive, don’t fly.

      It’s that simple.

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      • MeToo says:

        Planning our “road trip” from the Pacific Northwest to Houston for Thanksgiving right now. Haven’t flown for 13 months; used to fly as often as I could. No radiation or molestation for us!

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      • Fed Up says:

        I haven’t flown since they started tightening up security ages before the TSA started molesting children and grandparents. I have no interest in having any stranger groping around on my person. If I can’t drive there, I’m not going -unless it is to leave the country permanently if it comes to that!

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      • TN Burning says:

        Ready to boycott, but if I drive, what about the checkpoints? The TSA will be groping my genitals until they find some silver coins, supposedly hidden in my underwear!

        AK is going to protect its natural resources and separate from the lower 48.
        AZ has its own freedom movement to abolish Tyranny.
        TX will become a Republic again, and finally Perry will realize he should become President.
        SC is soon becoming the The Palmetto Republic.
        VA will soon remember its state motto and its originator.
        GA will soon state that the federal government ceases to exist.
        CA will declare bankruptcy, and finally have the sense to legalize drugs and free all non-violent offenders.
        OR & WA will become Cascadia, asking BC to join them.
        FL Keys want to become the Conch Republic.

        And D.C. ain’t even a State, but rather THE State.

        So where do I go? Who do I call for permission to enter? Will your country let me move there?

        I can be a productive citizen.

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      • Nam Marine says:

        The TSA is now on the highways in Tennessee!

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        • Plain Old American says:

          Yes they are there. They are going to protect you from the big, nasty bogieman. The only way to stop terrorists is to have a TSA agent sleeping at the foot of your bed every night.

          Hey, maybe Moochelle can raise an army of calorie counters and saturated fat sniffers which she can deploy to your home to ascertain your diet stays within the guidelines she will create.

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      • Breck says:

        Yes and what is really odd is that the airlines are busier than ever and raising rates as a result.

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    20. He should have said he was illegally channelling money to a Solyndra slush fund. Then, the responsed would have been:

      “Oh! Well, if that’s the case, please go right ahead, and do accept our apologies for delaying you getting the money to one of the government cronies.”

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    21. Officer Murphy says:

      TSA are agents for the State as the concentration of force to conduct criminal activity. Taxation is Theft, and War is Murder. It’s that simple. They wish to destroy the individuality of all Americans in the final analysis. You will all be SERFS for them in their new age feudalism.

      9/11 was an inside job for exactly this purpose. You would have to be utterly stupid or retarded not to figure that one out. Just read former New York Times reporter Jim Marrs and you will know the truth, which can set you free.

      I am glad US Marines makes this point, and how the federal government is an aggressor force AGAINST the American people, and the Individual States of America.

      MIHM makes the brilliant point that the War on Drugs was the first assault. Then the War on Terror. Even War on Aliens will be their next attempt to rob and murder you. The Feds are the aliens!

      We have Mob Rule, and you can call it whatever you want: Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Crony Capitalism, etc. It’s all the SAME THING because it’s the concentration of force to get away with whatever you want.

      Forgive me, I never went to an ‘Ivy League’ school, or even graduated college, and I know that much.

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    22. geo-lithic says:

      What did the American people do to deserve the TSA They searched my 80 year old mom for a bomb!! Did the freakin bad guys win? What are we going to ? Its already much worse than 1984!

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      • That Guy says:

        IT IS CRAZY!! SEARCHING AN 80 YEAR OLD WOMAN!!?? WHY?? WHAT THE FK IS PROBABLE CASUE?? ALL OF THIS TSA BS IS BS!!!! IT MUST STOP. IF THE TSA DOES NOT TAKE A STEP BACK.. IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE… AND WORSE… AND WORSE!!!

        Congressman on private jets are NOT searched, rich people on private plane are not groped and hassled like this. The presidents wife and kids are not groped.

        NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE!!!

        How many people have been arrested by the TSA for actually being a legit terrorist/saftey threat?

        How many men, woman and children have been groped by the TSA looking for “terrorist”

        BUT….. how many people HAVE BEEN arrested for “other things” while they were being searched by the TSA?

        Does anyone actually believe that the TSA is really looking for terrorist?

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      • Nam Marine says:

        Yes geo-lithic, the “Bad” guys did win! Our own Government!

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    23. ninaorket says:

      silver bwitches , buy lots of it… the chinese know the score and are buying it all up in asia… gold too!

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    24. LMAO says:

      A silver coin is a weapon?! What a FRAUD! This is where our taxpayer money is going?! To sponsor Nazis who wish to turn all law-abiding citizens into suspects?!

      I thought the American justice system was supposed to protect innocent people from exactly this kind of assault – unlawful search and seizure without probable cause.

      The TSA ARE the CRIMINALS!

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    25. I wonder…OK, they will stop you, ask you questions, but can they RETAIN your physical gold or silver?

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    26. Fed Up says:

      It is the TSA, are any here really shocked by this behavior? The presstitutes are not going to report on the details of a government agency pushing citizens around with their probing questions and intrusive backroom harrassment or searches. The minority (folks like us that come here) are radical and labled as such by the mainstream. I’m pretty sure most of the sheeple could care less about us, unless of course, the talking heads can somehow make us look like a sideshow.

      Now skewz me while I readjust my tinfoil hat and get back to making and canning some applebutter and pie filling…

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    27. Through most of the English-speaking world, legislation backing the “war on drugs” purports to reverse the onus of proof in drug-possession trials. That reversal is incompatible with the rule of law and is therefore unconstitutional in ALL jurisdictions. More: http://is.gd/noreverse.

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    28. ninaorket says:

      READ THIS … HOLY SHHEEEEEIT! ;0p psssszt I’m buying more ammo!

      The Federal Reserve bankers have offered $billions to the CIA mercenaries in Libya to come to the United States and start a bloody rebellion. The Federal Reserve bankers sent Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to make their offer and terms. According to high ranking U.S. military officials the plot by the Federal Reserve bankers calls for Libyan mercenaries to enter the United States as guest of the Federal Reserve banks. Once on U.S. soil they are to hook up with CIA and DHS contacts and immediately prepare and execute their mission to start shooting New York City cops who are assigned to police the Occupy Wall Street protests. The Occupy Wall Street Protests have now entered its 2nd month and Barack Obama hasn’t forcibly put down the protests as he was instructed to do by the Federal Reserve bankers. The Occupy Wall Street Protests were actually planned for by the Federal Reserve bankers. They financed it – by financing the Vancouver-based advocacy magazine, Adbusters – Adbusters planned for and organized the Occupy Wall Street Protests. On September 14, 2011 they officially kicked off their campaign for Occupy Wall Street by stating – Who Will Occupy Wall Street on September 17? Everyone knows nothing can be done without financial backing. Everyone also knows that a business won’t do anything for free. So where is Adbusters (a magazine business) getting its money? Adbusters receives grants from a United States fiscal sponsorship group based in San Francisco called Tides Center. According to disclosure documents from 2007-2009, Tides Center gave Adbusters grants totaling $185,000.

      Why would the Federal Reserve bankers finance protests that call for their being abolished? The European controlled Federal Reserve bankers have been trying to destroy the United States as we know it.

      *Admin Update*

      Read the rest: http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4808

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      • ninaorket says:

        HEY YOU ALL GUESS WHO NOW OCCUPIES THE LIBYAN EMBASSY IN WASH DC…? Here’s a Hint they killed Quadaffy Duck under a flag of truce and work for the CIA AND KILLERY LUCIFER CLINTON AND HER BWITCH us state department HARPIES! hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

        Pretty convient for Killery Lucifer Clinton having the Afghanistan-Iraqi-Libyan us soldier murdering Al-CIA-Duh now based out of the Libyan embassy in Wash DC huh?

        Wonder where the Al-CIA-Duh will attack first NEWYORK? Or CHICAGO?

        Can we say 9/11 Part II… coming to a town near you Real Soon!

        Buy more AMMO!

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        • ninaorket says:

          PC
          October 23, 2011 – 9:05 pm

          Why would the Federal Reserve bankers want to kill Obama? After all they put him in office and they illegally got over $16 trillion from Obama. The answer is a simple as black and white. Obama is black and all of the Federal Reserve bankers are white. The FED is a whites only club. The Federal Reserve bankers are racists. Look at the leaders of all of the Federal Reserve banks, the World Bank, the World Monetary Fund, the EU and the Bank of London. They are all white. They only put Obama in office so that a white man (a white president) would never be blamed for the fall of the once great Republic we know as the United States of America.

          The downfall of the United States was put into overdrive by the dumb, drunk redneck duh George W Bush. Bush set the Federal Reserve banks bailout train in motion. Obama (a British born subject) was made president of the United States so that the racist Federal Reserve bankers can once again blame a black man for the imminent train wreck.

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      • ninaorket says:

        thank you mac slavo – appreciated ;0)

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      • Know what I think??
        I think the bast**d in my White HOuse knows he can’t win next term; so, he is going ‘rogue’ in regards to his puppets and handlers.

        This is gonna get real interesting…to beans, bullets, and bandaids, add the Bible and popcorn!!!

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    29. ninaorket says:

      This my response to ODD QUESTIONER on attack Cobra helicopters tanks and F16′s Bombing american Patriots in a Revolution!

      I was Trained by the US MARINES US ARMY and the US AIR FORCE to ADAPT and OVER-COME!

      As was the Hundreds of Thousands of Every Dirt Eatin’ Grunt Infrantry Veteran Here on American Soil… they have only so many planes and so many tanks and so many helicopters.

      We the NEW American REVOLUTION Patriots are Limitless!

      And we know where they live and where their families live!

      In the End We the New American Revolution Patriots WILL Conquer and Defeat those who oppose us from the illegal NWO controlled US Military and The NWO Banker Illuminati BilderBoyBuggers World Bank Cartel!

      Go to the rear REMF… your in Our way here on The Line!

      All women and children to the Rear ODD BALL! yOU OBVIOUSLY BELONG WITH THE WOMEN…

      Don’t Tread on Me!
      Arm Up Stock Up Prepare
      Preditor or Prey the Choice is Yours!

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    30. PO'dpatriot says:

      Mac, there’s a video over @ wideawakenews.com of a female US soldier describing some latest training and what she has learned coming down the road for us citizens. Didn’t know if you saw it or not or if it would be something you would put up here. Im not sure what to believe after seeing it but I’m seething right now.

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      • ninaorket says:

        I saw it too… she was definitely freaked out some, just telling it… gotta give her creds just for sitting there telling us her story… sounds about right though… it’s right in line with their plans to BRING AMERICA to heel under GLOBAL NWO WORLD BANK Domination and Government!

        my RESCPECTS to the ARMY VALKYRIE ;0), stay safe and keep your head down soldier!

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      • And again, as Nina says, and many here say—we outnumber them by civilian gun owners and hunters; yeah, I know–tanks, and other stuff—well, at least it’ll be a good fight.
        I DO NOT in any shape, form, or fashion(a 60′s phrase) believe the LEO and Oath Keepers, and active duty military will shoot an American citizen–yeah, Rambo is on the east coast hauling to FEMA camps, but Rambo on the west coast is hauling his sister, mom, and baby to the FEMA camps too…and it won’t take long for both Rambos to figure that out!!

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    31. POSSEE says:

      History will most likely repeat itself soon..

      The feds will devalue gold and confiscate it from all those possessing at pennies on the dollar..

      so much for hedging against inflation

      do you really believe that they don’t know who owns gold and silver..it’s all tracked and logged..

      i’ll stick with canned goods/dry goods/ and ammo..

      possee

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      • ninaorket says:

        FBI cross dressing agent knocks on my door: knock knock…

        fbi lipstick wearing crossdressing agent: We’re here for all your loot! Harr Harr! ;0P

        me an american patriot: Ohhhh Geee Whizz Mr. Federally Deathdealer… I’d love to give you ALL my gold and silver Ma’am, but ummm I was robbed by my montana local inbred meth head alchi neighbors in cfalls columbia falls montana just yesterday! Sorry Officer but I was Robbed! I ain’t got nuthin’!

        If ya want your loot ya gotta go to their cfalls columbia falls montana crack house!

        End of conversation! Door Slams shut in cross dressing fbi agents face!

        That’s my story AN I’M STICKNG TOO IT!

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    32. POSSEE says:

      instead of investing in tangible assets of precious minerals..invest in durable goods to survive..

      neither gold nor silver will feed you

      feds will re enact the gold swipe as they did back in the 1930′s

      then you will be a subject of the state requiring their goods and services to just eat and survive

      enjoy the day

      possee

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    33. Frank says:

      This is a nonsense rant. Two months ago, I took coins through the airport in the wooden box they came in from the Mint over 25 years ago, and I was concerned that the screener would make me open and unbox them. Evidently he could see through the box, and he passed my luggage through without a hitch, merely asking (in a conversational way that another passenger might), “Coins? [yes] From the Mint? [yes] Nice!”

      Although TSA is a long way from perfect, I think a lot of the issues you hear about are due to the attitude of the traveler, or some bogus complaint like this one!

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      • Anonymous says:

        Take seven one ounce AGE’s through the imaginary “loose your rights” airport line and get back with us. I don’t think you understand what rights you loose at a FAA airport once you step past the sign or metal detector. You are on Federal property and wave many of your rights automatically.

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      • Nam Marine says:

        Frank, you will come to find that they really are the
        Gestapo sooner than you think!

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    34. daughterofscotland says:

      @ninaorket—-Where is the documented proof of such bigoted, racist accusations?

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      • ninaorket says:

        obama’s chicago fairy cheerleader (Rahm dual israeli jew citizenship Emmanuel and fruity friends) gangster people in chicago… while he was running for prez and once he became prez KILLED three 3 of obama’s ex gay lovers in chicago… ran em’ down like deer in the chicago neighborhoods and killed them to keep their lovers barry soetoro / our illegal cia prez barack bilderboybugger oboma gay bath house stories from hitting mainstream media! no b.s… do the research.

        i admit it , personally , i don’t like fudge packers… those feelings i have are based on my own life experience serving with em’ in the military and civilian sector… most homo’s are selfish preditors … i’ve seen it! As a military police officer an civilian working in the financial district in boston as a computer network engineer , at the gyms and as a bouncer at night clubs / boston an providence!
        homosexuals have a screw loose and are very physically abusive to each other – has to do with the struggle of being what they are and lack of acceptance by society at large and abusive family history.

        PLUS barry soetoro aka illegal cia prez barack obama – ADMITS it and dr. webster tarpley and even wash dc reporter wayne madsen have stated Soetoro / obama was raised in MALAYSIA AS A malaysian citizen by a… READY… TRANSEXUAL crossdressing GAY NANNY! Who spent many a hour alone with barry/ barack! hmmmmm In the phillipines we called em’ billy-boys, many a marines fell to their charms there, some MARINES ;0P pssszt lmao ;0) even MARRIED em’! suckers!

        do the research folks … there’s even a book about it all by dr webster tarpley.

        do the research… just google it… it’ll all come up!

        ;0P pppssszzzt hate me all you want… i’m on a mission and wont be deterred from my goal! not by you or the f-ing cia / fbi / dhs… people need to know the TRUTH!

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        • ninaorket says:

          just google “barack obama reggie love” and see what comes up… obama has his own personal GAY lover working at the whitehouse as his personal trainer… paid by your taxes on whitehouse salary! even whitehouse staff have confirmed this… there are even reports of gay prostitutes hookers running around the whitehouse at night… by uniformed cia security guards! BARNEY FRANK rep from MASS is a known coke head and full blown gay … he has a gay porn star as a lover and ran a gay whore house out of his wash dc tax payer funded townhouse… he party’s with obama at the white house with all his gay friends… there ARE GAY PORN STARS on the staff of the white house!

          HELLO… CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW??? WTF! ;0p pssssszzt

          It’s full blown HEDOISM at the whitehouse and YOU ALL are PAYIN FOR IT!

          suckers… ;0P

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        • Nina—this isn’t news—everyone knows this….except those still living in caves..or heads in the sand.

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    35. Nam Marine says:

      Good people of OZ, there is only one good thought pertaining to this dilemma. There are 14 Million Deer hunters in America! We out number TPTB 1000 to 1.

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    36. Hal says:

      a few months ago I visited my mother in a retirement community in FL. She gave me 70 morgans which I wrapped in saran wrap and stuck in my brief case. TSA pulled me to the side for all of 2 minutes and looked at them and waved me on. 70 morgans at then say 40 is 2800 buckos–not really all that much in the scheme of things.

      Only once did TSA piss me off–one guy decided to look thru my wallet which I was carrying in my hand. I will joke with them and usually when I do i get a smile out of them and they wave me on. Like dealing with the IRS–you do not want to challenge them cause if you do they will get back by making your 10 minutes there miserable.

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    37. Raymond says:

      our America government got more than 8000 tons of gold, why the government dont wait the price to go double or triple then sell them off to pay our 15 trillions debt? why they want to manipulate the price and press it down to undervalue? why they want to track our people taking gold coins or silver coins in domestic flight? can anybody give me a brief explanation? Thx u very much

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      • DavidNY says:

        The US Treasury/Fed supposedly have over 8000 metric tons of gold, which is about 282 million ounces. They have no appreciable store of silver.

        In order to pay off $15 trillion in debts, the price of gold would have to go to approximately $53,000 per ounce. The problem with doing that is that the rest of the world would then know that there would be zero chance of the US ever backing its dollar with gold in the future, and would promptly dump all dollars to buy up the gold. As the dollars came flooding back into the US, we would see a massive hyperinflation tsunami that would instantly crush the value of the dollar. Whether or not we repay the outstanding debts, we need to understand that the dollar is fatally flawed and will die either slowly or quickly. Be aware of that fact, and hedge accordingly…

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    38. ItsComing says:

      WHY??? Because it is time to start be the devils advocate on this site. Down vote me all you want, but tell me where I am wrong.

      Everyone agrees that the TSA is a sham and doing illegal searches and the federal governemt is in bed with the banks and etc etc etc, and you know what? THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!! You are sheep and cows to be herded by the global elite, and there is nothing you can do about it.

      They will create new lasw, just like the old laws banning citizens from owning gold, and they will take you gold, and GUESS WHAT?? THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

      Who are you going to call? You can post here all you want, dream you are doing some good, but guess what? all your posting in the world will not change anything.

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      • Raymond says:

        Thk u so much, u are very kind.

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      • Raymond says:

        our government no money already
        released the reservoir oil petrol not in appropriate time
        cut NASA expenditure, no more space investigations
        print more money…etc
        our central banks no reserved gold already
        all being sell off…
        like u said that the Fed is in bed with the banks n etc..

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    39. Death N Taxes says:

      dear TSA and Obama….

      1984 was supposed to be a WARNING, mnot a how-to-do-it manual…..

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    40. Pissing into the wind says:

      For those that breath fire and swear they will defend America with their deer rifles your words are admirable but a whole lot has changed since the first American Revolution and it can be boiled down quickly and simply in a few bullet points:

      1.) The American spirit of 1774 is gone

      2.) The “PTB” want to reduce the human population quickly, significantly, and soon

      3.) Chemical and biological weapons didn’t effectively exist in the 1700′s

      4.) The pure and putrid evil that exists today – and we elect – won’t hesitate to use them on “their own people”

      Good luck fighting in an NBC / CBN environment with your deer rifles, no effective military organization, no MOPP protection a.k.a. MOPP Level Zero, against a souless enemy that will laugh and shrug their shoulders at the sight of our family members, along side our bodies, twitching, convulsing, writhing, vomiting, defacating, voiding their bladders, bleeding out of the every pore in their bodies, foaming at the mouth, all while their skin blisters and sloughs off onto the ground……ya good luck with all your lofty plans.

      “Got Atropine?”

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    41. Plain Old American says:

      If you think you’ll feel guilty about your new “relationship” with the TSA goons this might help you get over it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNY_PTULO4

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    42. skeptical guy says:

      the guy on the video had a very fishy story. He was going to sell mint collector at silver face value?
      Of course there wud be a cap gains tax due if he as he says*bought cheap* and was going to cash in in Las Vegas.
      If he just said he was a collector, and was showing his coins, that wud have been that I think.
      Getting all worked up and hostile does not get you thru these situations painlessly.
      If you dont like the way it works here & it is becoming a police state, then there is a big & in my opinion, better world out there. Why not move?
      see Thetaxhavenreport.com and all those websites like PT Shamrock.com, escape from America.com

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    43. Prepping Preacher says:

      if you have it and you try to move it via commercial transportation, they will find it eventually and add you to “the list” for future reference… precious metals are the most sure way to financially best the nwo and their cronies…

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