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    You Can Call Me a Doomer, You Can Call Me Whatever You’d Like

    Mac Slavo
    August 20th, 2013
    SHTFplan.com
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    If you follow alternative news and share or discuss it with your friends, family and acquaintances, there is a strong possibility that you’ve been treated to rolling eyes, laughter and total disbelief.

    Many of us have, for years, warned those closest to us about the over reach of government, the expansion of the surveillance state, globalization, and economic unsustainability. In the majority of instances, our diatribes, citations and impassioned arguments have likely fallen on deaf ears.

    You’ve probably been called a doomer, conspiracy theorist or worse on numerous occasions.

    Are you crazy?

    Or is it possible that the majority of people in this country, even many of our loved ones, have become so enthralled with the paradigms of consumerism, government dependence and apathy that they are purposefully being ignorant of what’s happening around them in an attempt to remove themselves from reality?

    The team at leading alternative news hub SGTreport.com, which includes Rory, Peter and Sean, recently discussed this very phenomenon.

    (Video below)

    You can call me a Doomer, you can call me whatever you’d like. It really doesn’t matter. When I read a story… these are facts… how can you say that I’m a doomer? I’m just looking at reality.

    This is unsustainable.

    That is the reality. That’s not being a doomer to address that reality.

    It’s being an informed, concerned citizen in a Republic that is quickly deteriorating and being an informed, educated citizen who realizes he, she, all of us must take some steps in an effort to protect our families for what is clearly coming.

    Citing five recent headlines, SGT Report highlights how the real story can only be found in alternative media, while the mainstream simply sugarcoats it.

    Was it the mainstream media that told us we were on the brink of a total collapse of our financial system? Or that the NSA was surveilling every American? Or that despite the promises made in Washington, unemployment would rise and tens of millions would be added to food stamp rolls? Or that the government was systematically locking down our country, militarizing our police departments and gutting our Constitution?

    Yes – they told us. But by the time most Americans were made aware of it, it was already after the fact. They were, as always, a day late and a trillion dollars short.

    Had you listened only to “legitimate” TV news sources, you’d likely have bought a new house, a new car, taken the kids to Disneyland and borrowed thousands of dollars in credit to fund your American dream.

    Why? Because they told you everything was fine.

    Had you been paying attention to reality, you would have known otherwise.

    This is one to share with those who simply refuse to believe that there is more out there than they’re being told.

    Watch SGT Report on Doomer News vs. Reality:

    You can embrace the corporate mockingbird media’s half-truths and outright lies, or you can attempt to stay informed via proven alternative media sources whose trees continually bear fruit. It’s a case of “Doomer” news VS. Reality.

    Keep up to date with reality news at SGT Report and don’t forget to tune in Saturdays 1pm to 2pm Eastern time for the SGT Report at Unbound Radio.

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    1. npgh says:

      I read a study awhile back (I wish I could site the source but I can’t remember). Anyway there are three types of people…realists, optimists and pessimists. The optimists died in the furnaces because they kept hoping that their situation would change. The pessimists died because that’s what the figured would happen to them anyway. But…the interesting part is that the realists lived. They lived because they could look at what was happening around them with 20/20 vision, so to speak, and adjust their lives accordingly. I proudly call myself a doomer/realist.

      • DRD5508 says:

        npgh, we are realists alright. The lies that tptb tell are like what babies are given (now days) to drink: it is called similac, similar to milk but ain’t the real thing. Whatever is given from the msm and the gov’t is similar to similac; ain’t the real thing.

        • OutWest says:

          Hold out one hand for government promises and
          hold out the other hand for government bull shit
          to see which hand fills up first.

          • KY Mom says:

            Not just “Homeland Security”… Another surprising gov’t agency is buying millions of rounds of ammo

            “According to a solicitation issued by the agency on August 16, the TSA is looking to buy “3,454,000 rounds of .357 SIG Caliber Training Ammunition.”

            Although TSA agents in airports are currently unarmed, last month the TSA announced its plan to hire the use of a firing range within a 20 mile radius of LaGuardia Airport in order to train TSA workers.

            The federal agency’s huge bullet buy could signal an expansion of its controversial Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) program, where teams of armed TSA officers patrol railroad stations, bus stations, ferries, car tunnels, ports, subways, truck weigh stations, rest areas, and special events.”

            The Daily Crux

            • KY Mom,

              I see things aren’t bad enough in Detroit, now the police are exploring a New York City/Nazi style “stop and frisk” policy to supposedly get weapons off the streets.

              Detroit has descended into a social and economic black hole and police want to arbitrarily and randomly stop honest people on the street and subject them to a pat-down without probable cause or a warrant. Do we need anymore proof as to where this is leading?

              If I have to go to jail for resisting arrest, that’s as good a cause as I can think of right there.

              Thanks for the link!

              • Smokey says:

                Mayor Bloomberg is crowing about confiscating 254 illegal guns in NY City right now, says it’s justification for ‘stop and frisk’ laws.

                Not one of the guns was captured on the street, however, so his connection is a bit tenuous. Doesn’t seem to bother the media, though.

                • PenCRNA says:

                  he also wants to fingerprint every individual who lives in public housing. Its the slippery slope. I know i’m gonna get thumbs down, but not all public housing tenants are drug dealers and scum. If he gets away with this they’ll try to fingerprint us for drivers licenses or something stupid like that and the sheeple will think its great.

                • Outlaw says:

                  Pen, in my state they already fingerprint us for a driver’s license, all 10 fingers.

                • Smokey,

                  Bloomberg is a little Napoleon. I’m tired of seeing that fascist’s face on display. He is fanatically in love with everything that European socialist. Disgusting.

                • If one thinks bloomy is an insane fascist prick. Just imagine the sort of person he is setting the stage for .

              • YH,every agent in the government has been promised the same things,EVERYTHING YOU OWN,they are decieved,all the NATO forces were promised the same thing,EVERYTHING YOU OWN,the american population will be in the middle,When you see the paracutes,open fire,your being INVADED,when you see the QUAD TRACKS coming up your road,OPEN fire,don’t wait till their on you,america will almost centainly go down,only a few will be awake enough to understand were about to be INVADED……….

                • arizona,

                  There is no way for the government to keep this economic charade going under the present lack of GDP growth, high unemployment, rising inflation, and national debt. They will be forced to take more from those of us who still have jobs.

                  The government will justify their increasing raids on the working class by lowering the bar on who they define as “wealthy”, hence the increasing number of Americans renouncing their citizenships.

                  I am reminded that only a short time ago, in 1954, the top marginal Federal Income tax rate was 92%! That is ancient history to most folks, but the precedent has already been set and if push comes to shove we better believe the government can and will call for much higher income taxes.

              • Justice says:

                If frisking a black or Hispanic gansta wanna be keeps me from getting shot stabbed or robbed Great. I’m all for profiling. Profiling Middle Eastern people between the age of 15-45 and not allowing Arab/ Muslim filth from flying in to and in the United States would have saved around 4000 lives on Sept 11.
                When I was in Iraq we profiled the shit out of anybody that came within 100 meters. Please keep in mind we are supposedly fighting a war against terrorists. Wether they are middle Eastern or Domestic gangsta terrorists they shoul be dealt with as such- Enemy combatants. This mentality will save the lives of what’s left of the decent Americans from all ethnicities. So YH go practice what you preach and go to Detroit give out hugs and sing Kum by ya with the homies and Chollos on any Saturday night. You’ll last about .2 seconds. You do as you wish with your own scalp qand don’t be telling me and mine what to do with ours.

                • JustMe says:

                  I understand your position, however, the term “Enemy Combatant”, was conjured up at the end of WW2, to redefine the status of German POWs, so the allies, and thier masters could get around the POW treatment protocols of the Geneva Convention.

                  And, they used the supposed status of “Disarmed Enemy Combatant”, to starve and deny medical treatment to those POWs, who during the war, followed the Geneva Convention. 1.5 MILLION German POWs died in allied captivity, and no the average German soldier did not deserve to be starved to death, for fighting in the war. Those judged guilty of “war crimes” and then some, were executed for what they had done.

                  The term “Enemy Combatant” can be used to label anyone here in the US, to justify denial of legal due process. Be careful what you wish for.

                • Justice says:

                  For Just Me. Regardless of the termonology utilized recognizing a potentially threat and being able to differentiate hostile from non hostile intent saves lives. Cops in all major US cities are out manned and for the most part outgunned. Should the US government become as Tyrranical as many of the Governments we support I honestly believe that Patriots will deal with that effectively. Meanwhile back here in the real world Gangsta/ Thug/ Chollo/ Homie/ criminals who threaten the peaceful existance of any member of American society should be dealt with as a potential lethal threat and dealt with utilizang whatever means necessary to render them combat ineffective. Up to and including the use of deadly force. So my position of profiling the shit out of the Bad guys stands.Frisk em, detain them question them whatever it takes to keeps me and mine safe from their criminal asses. It saves lives.

                • JustMe says:

                  Justice,
                  Again, I do understand your point. However, the last time I checked, the 4th Amendment to the United States Constitution, has not been repealed. Of course, one would’nt know that by what’s going on.

                  Also, be aware, the rules of profiling have changed. You are a Veteran, yes? Are you aware that you are now profiled? If you are a White male Veteran, you are now considered a potential terrorist threat. You are more likely to be profiled and targeted, than the scum anyway.

                  And,speaking of Patriots, this was written by one our own, at least he was at one time:

                  “In 1994 the Pentagon’s deputy chief of staff for intelligence, a Major Ralph Peters, wrote a position paper, Warrior Class:
                  The desire for patriotism is considered an enemy doctrine. The U.S. armed forces must be prepared to fight against all those who oppose the New World Order and who are holding out for nationalism… This new warrior class is most dangerous because they consist of those who fight out of strong religious beliefs… There is a worldwide class of patriots (i.e., “terrorists”) who number in the millions, and if the current trend continues, there may be more of these who…love freedom and are the target of the New World Order… You cannot bargain and compromise with these warriors… We, as the military, need to commit more training to counter these warrior threats. We must have an active campaign to win over the populace. This must be coupled with irresistible violence.”

                  That’s what they really think of your Patriotism.

                • Truth Hurts says:

                  Justice says:
                  Comment ID: 2108172
                  August 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm

                  Themguys. Please save your anti semitic crap for you Westboro church, Klan and Nazi rallies. The elders of Zion myth was debunked. To keep you informed Jesus was a Jew and we still worship the God of Abraham. What is the first and most important commandment of the Bible ? That commandment doesn’t show up in the Turner Diaries.

                  Talk bad about criminal jews and it bothers you JUSTUS. But you seem to have NO TROUBLE Bad mouthing the supposedly criminal Goyum?

                  Your Full of $hit.

            • Gonetoolong says:

              I am suspicious that some of these mysterious train derailments, plant explosions, gas line explosions, in the US as of late are terrorist related. There seems to be many more than we used to hear about. It would be easy for the authorities to call these whatever they need to call them. They therefore feel the need to arm all alphabet agencies. Not to mention the multiple threats to daily life that we regularly discuss on this site. Who knows, but they are getting ready for something, that cannot be denied.

                • Them Guys says:

                  Once you find/learn the true NWO plans it is eaiser to figure out in Advance what their Next move will be.

                  “[13.] We ["Jews"] have demonstrated that progress will bring all the GOYIM [non-Jews] to the sovereignty of reason. Our despotism [absolute power or authority] will be precisely that; for it will know how, by wise severities, to pacificate all unrest, to cauterize liberalism out of all institutions.
                  [14.] When the populace has seen that all sorts of concessions and indulgences are yielded it, in the same name of freedom it has imagined itself to be sovereign lord and has stormed its way to power, but, naturally like every other blind man, it has come upon a host of stumbling blocks. IT HAS RUSHED TO FIND A GUIDE, IT HAS NEVER HAD THE SENSE TO RETURN TO THE FORMER STATE and it has laid down its plenipotentiary powers at OUR feet. Remember the French Revolution, to which it was we who gave the name of “Great”: the secrets of its preparations are well known to us for it was wholly the work of our hands.
                  [15.] Ever since that time we have been leading the peoples from one disenchantment to another, so that in the end they should turn also from us [International Judaics] in favor of that KING-DESPOT OF THE BLOOD OF ZION [antichrist - satan], WHOM WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE WORLD.
                  [16.] At the present day we are, as an international force [hence, we call them International Judaics], invincible, because if attacked by some we are supported by other States. It is the bottomless rascality of the GOYIM peoples, who crawl on their bellies to force, but are merciless towards weakness, unsparing to faults and indulgent to crimes, unwilling to bear the contradictions of a free social system but patient unto martyrdom under the violence of a bold despotism — it is those qualities which are aiding us to independence. From the [Jewish puppet] premier-dictators of the present day, the GOYIM peoples suffer patiently and bear such abuses as for the least of them they would have beheaded twenty kings.

                  [17.] What is the explanation of this phenomenon, this curious inconsequence of the masses of the peoples in their attitude towards what would appear to be events of the same order?
                  [18.] It is explained by the fact that these dictators whisper to the peoples through their agents that through these abuses they are inflicting injury on the States with the highest purpose — to secure the welfare of the peoples, the international brotherhood of them all, their solidarity and equality of rights. Naturally they do not tell the peoples that this unification must be accomplished only under our sovereign rule.
                  [19.] And thus the people condemn the upright and acquit the guilty, persuaded ever more and more that it can do whatsoever it wishes. Thanks to this state of things, the people are destroying every kind of stability and creating disorders at every step.
                  [20.] The word “freedom” brings out the communities of men to fight against every kind of force, against every kind of authority even against God and the laws of nature. For this reason we, when we come into our kingdom, shall have to erase this word [freedom] from the lexicon of life as implying a principle of brute force which turns mobs into bloodthirsty beasts.
                  [21.] These beasts [the overthrown non-Jews], it is true, fall asleep again every time when they have drunk their fill of blood, and at such time can easily be riveted into their chains [of bondage]. But if they be not given blood they will not sleep and continue to struggle.”

                  — Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Protocol № 3, ¶ 13-21. Probably written in this form in 1884, but published publically in 1901 or 03 (The Protocols of…Zion were also delivered as the minutes of the First Zionist Congress held at Basle, Switzerland, in 1897, under the presidency of the “father of Modern Zionism,” the late Theodore Herzl.) A copy of the Protocols of…Zion is in the British Museum today bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906. One on-line source: http://www.biblestudysite.com/plez.htm

              • Gonetoolong,

                Without terrorism the government would lose their only justification for doing what they’re doing to us. They must maintain the terrorism cover story, and the level of fear, so as to keep the security infrastructure in place indefinitely. Government’s sole self-directed goal today is the acquisition of more power at the expense of our rights. Everyday we see more evidence of this. We were warned 200 years ago that this would happen.

                • Out O' Time says:

                  “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
                  – Thomas Jefferson

                • Justice says:

                  Themguys. Please save your anti semitic crap for you Westboro church, Klan and Nazi rallies. The elders of Zion myth was debunked. To keep you informed Jesus was a Jew and we still worship the God of Abraham. What is the first and most important commandment of the Bible ? That commandment doesn’t show up in the Turner Diaries.

              • Anonymous says:

                What are they up to? Practice ? For what and why? Gotta call your comment goofy. They would know how to blow up or derail trains and there is no reason to do it. Wtf.

            • Night breaker says:

              Yeh, most of that ammo,is going for training the air marshalls service , the government is currently expanding the training from one site to about 5 through out the country , they will also be used to patrol the airport terminals in plain clothes. That ammo is to be purchased over a 10 year period.

              This is different than DHS purchases.

              Semper Fi 8541

            • Ted Kennedy says:

              Pb also known as (lead) is very poisonous. California says so. People that fish with lead sinkers in California should know this…

            • Shootit says:

              It would be interesting to see them show up at “my” special events. I guess I will just skip the rest areas and use alternate areas. It will become a game to keep them guessing.

            • old vet says:

              The government and Homeland Security can buy all the ammo they want but its not going to help them, Greed has already kill them. All the wars we have been in from Viet Nam to present day is for capital gain….pure greed. But the troops have leaned urban and guerrilla warfare so we will just kill their so called army , strip them of their weapons and gear and leave them naked in the sun for the animals to feed on. Then the people will have the ammo and equipment they need.

          • Be informed says:

            The ONLY difference between being labeled a doomer and someone regarded of much wisdom is what time frame you are talking about. Before a mega disaster you are a chicken little for trying to forewarn about it. Afterwards everyone is saying that you knew, you had the insight and enlightenment to prepare. How do did you know? It is not having the last laugh, it is having the last word.

      • Courage

        To laugh is to risk appearing a fool,
        To weep is to risk appearing sentimental.
        To reach out to another is to risk involvement,
        To expose feelings is to risk exposing your true self.
        To place your ideas and dreams before a crowd is to risk their loss.
        To love is to risk not being loved in return,
        To live is to risk dying,
        To hope is to risk despair,
        To try is to risk failure.
        But risks must be taken because the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing. The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he cannot learn, feel change, grow or live.
        Chained by his servitude he is a slave who has forfeited all freedom. Only a person who risks is free. The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; and the realist adjusts the sails.

        -William Arthur Ward

        • Ghost Rider says:

          CC thats a great quote. I’ve been a realist for as long as I can remember. People often confuse it with pessimism, but they are definitely not the same.

        • eppe says:

          How about a joke?

          A middle-aged couple had finally learned how to send and receive texts on their cell phones. The wife, being a romantic at heart, decided one day that she’d send her husband a text while she was out of the house having coffee with a friend.
          She texted:
          “If you are sleeping, send me your dreams.
          If you are laughing, send me your smile.
          If you are eating, send me a bite.
          If you are drinking, send me a sip.
          If you are crying, send me your tears.
          I love you.”

          The husband, being a no-nonsense sort of guy, texted back:

          “I’m on the toilet. Please advise.”

          • Dude, that was a good one. Who in their right mind would thumbs down that joke? Oh I forgot, there are some downers here. Mostly pricks with no life. But I regress. I am glad to see some have a sense of humor. You need to put more humor on this site like Okie. He never gets thumbs down. But you tell the truth, most cannot handle it. Keep sending good jokes, most like them.

            • eppe says:

              It is amazing how many here have no sense of humor. I say what is on my mind, screw what others think. Now you all realize why I have been absent. One day we will all be in deep trouble, and mowing I and my clan are as ready as able will make the difference. But it all the unprepared whom will be after us for our due diligence. I know I am quite in your face, but if you realize what we are up against, then being harsh makes a difference. I have screwed over by many, I try to forgive and forget as Jesus says, but when the poop hits the fan, rules go out the door. But you know this because we know what really is going on…

            • BillybonesIII says:

              “regress”
              yep, you used the correct word!
              and Dude, that wasn’t a joke. It was disgusting bathroom humor.
              grow up!

          • eppe,
            Thank you for that…
            ;)

            Men are from Mars, women are from Venus…
            Ignore that red thumber, God what a twit.

          • I’m an old guy and I lucked into a few boxes of 9mmJHP – bought them and tossed them on the front seat of the car to head home. I stopped for fuel and as I’m waiting for the tank to fill, this drop-dead beautiful blond in the next bay noticed the 9mm ammo.
            She stepped over with a smile on her face and said “I believe in the practice of barter – would you like to trade some sex for some ammo?”
            I thought about it for a few seconds and then said “What kind of ammo you got?”

      • Rodster says:

        Damn proud to be a Doom and Gloomer and in the words of AC/DC. “For those about to Rock, I salute YOU”

      • “The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does. They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.” – Aldous Huxley – Brave New World Revisited

        • JustMe says:

          “Insanity in individuals is something rare – but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule.”
          - Friedrich Nietzsche

          • yourmotherwaswrong says:

            @JustMe

            Excellent quote!

            Friedrich was WAY ahead of his time.

            He had an insight into the human condition that MOST people just don’t get.

            The Nazis (government) tried to use his writings for propaganda purposes, and we all know how that ended.

            If you haven’t read Nietzsche folks, you should.

            Nietzsche is required reading!!!

            ************

            DisEngage from the system or be enslaved by it!

      • Mclovin says:

        Did anyone else read the headline to this story and suddenly have “Imagine” by John Lennon in their head?

      • Man on the inside says:

        I stoped talking last year…. Those who are willing to prep will and those that don’t will perish… including several beloved family members and freinds. In the words of Captain Adama of Battle Star Galactica ” you can’t save them all and sometimes you just have to roll a hard six”.

      • npgh,
        Amen.
        I have seen the results of irrational optimism myself, in my life, and it isn’t pretty.

        Irrational optimism, is normalcy bias that becomes cognitive dissonance, which, when it spreads into an entire society morphs into Systemic Irrationality. What some have termed; Abnormalcy bias.

        Ultimately, Prepping is a spiritual activity, the connection between mind and heart, where mind can overcome heart based on the evidence of having “eyes that see and ears that hear”. We trim our wicks and fill our lamps, to hide in a back room, because we see; Something wicked this way comes.

      • LOL… have not met too many people that don’t think they qualify as a realist. It is just OTHER people that must not be realists since they don’t agree… Sorry- But I am one of those who rolls his eyes with every email I get from my doomer friend. Makes for a good laugh once in a while tho. Really loved the one about how the government was trying to sterilize children with the bird flu vaccine scare (along with the millions of body bags send to Native American reservations since they were expected to die from the vaccine. Darn how I wish the media was not in the pocket of the government and would report on all those sterilizations and deaths…)

    2. durango kidd says:

      2015. Nibiru is about 1.5 Billion to 2.0 Billion miles out, moving at about 150 thousand MPH. 18 to 24 months.

      Be there to get there. :-)

      • All kinds of varied reports about Nibiru from it is coming this month to 2016, and plenty saying it does not exist at all, it would be nice if some correct fact was available on this!

        • durango kidd says:

          006: The data is out there including official news reports from scientists dating back to 1983; when it was first spotted. It was estimated to be a brown dwarf 50 billion miles out at that time by American scientists.

          Later reports in 1991 indicated it was only 10 billion miles out. If that were true it would have been here by now. Disinformation from a government troll I suspect.

          Hard to say for sure as a “lid” has been placed upon any official data from the USA NASA, but Russian scientists are confirming its existence.

          50 billion miles out at 175,000 mph would calculate an ETA of 2015. Maybe it was not quite so far away. Maybe its moving slower than that which I estimated.

          It has been located and photographed in the infrared. Its coming. Your daddy, are you lurking out there? Do you have any data?

          Be there to get there. :-)

          • Dick says:

            durango

            There are plenty of real problems out there that need to be considered. So many that is unnecesary to create unsubstantiated ones. You are not the only person who has brought up, in my opinion, incredulous things to concern ourselves with. We have no need to create more incentive for us to prepare when there are REAL problems.

            Should I worry about Jack booted thugs kicking in my door because I think for myself? Not yet. They have real buttheads doors to kick in, I’m not a criminal nor do I fear a visit from dope dealers. However I do fear the unprepared trying to break in my door to eat my beans.

            Do I fear CPS taking kids from home schools? Hell no, they are still staffed with incompetents and who wants to watch someone else’s kid for low wages? However I do fear the government lowering educational standards to aid in the dumbing down of Americans. Slavers would deny education to their charges as a means of keeping them ignorant. Islam is currently doing this to their constituents. Ignorance makes you easier to control.

            Do I fear a brown dwarf star zooming towards Earth that no one can see, even amateur astronomers? No, but I do fear if there genuinely was an earth ending body out there the government would likely not tell us but I think Joe Astronomer would.

            I certainly fear an economic upheaval, theological upheaval, energy upheaval and civil war where man is concerned and of course there is the possible ice age and certain natural disasters to prepare for.

            I fear most that man has the potential to kill us all with nuclear weapons and I have no confidence in the people who can order their use here or elsewhere in the world.

            CATI

            • dave in Id says:

              @ Dick, I gave you and DK a thumbs up because as you stated “in my opinion”. I would guess that only gov controlled telescopes can reach out and filter something 10 billions of miles out that could possibly be behind the sun in orbit. But I dont know. Also if you read some of the executive orders signed by our last 4 leaders, you will see that you are indeed a criminal if you hoard food, have a unregistered weapon, and dont participate in the homeschool guidelines. Agree with the nuclear weapons. Maybe that is why all the small underground cities are around the world…. or maybe its because we are going to encounter Nibiru, Ison, polar shift, or something of that nature.

            • durango kidd says:

              Agree with all you say Dick, but I don’t intend to bury my head in the sand either. I have always thought it best to keep an open mind.

              While it’s possible presence doesn’t justify government thuggery, it may explain the Police State that has evolved over the past 12 years.

              Tucson Arizona, for example, passed a Resolution not log ago ceeding final government authority to the Commander of davis Monthan Air Force Base in a secret session of the City Council, citing the “State of Emergency” that the City of Tucson was in.

              free thinking citizens of Tucson are scratching their heads over this one. Just saying. :-)

            • Man on the inside says:

              Thank you Dick… worry about what is realy in front of you…. the astariod thing (if it arives) would be a game changer that I can’t do anything about… Like that 17,000,000,000,000.00 bucks we owe….. but the clown stealing my truck, gun, or food…. well that I can deal with

            • Brown dwarfs can only be viewed in the infrared spectrum, which is why amateur astronomers have not reported on it. It’s the main reason that WISE(Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer) was sent down to Australia, although NASA would never tell anyone that.

              • durango kidd says:

                jp: agreed, but I think the second sun phenomena, where it is genuine, may be the light from OUR Sun reflecting off of it and illuminating it.

                Just a thought. :-)

                • DK…that is a possibility-sort of like the moon reflecting light from the sun, which may be another reason that we can’t always view it. However, if it’s not reflecting light due to positioning of our sun or it’s own position, then it would not be viewable by traditional telescopes, hence infrared.

          • jerrytbg says:

            Anything related that is not removed within hours, is a distortion of the truth…
            Bet on it…
            There certainly are things going on that they don’t want us to know about…
            But the signs are there… in the sky…
            imho.

            • jerrytbg says:

              And btw DK,

              You do know that at that speed…well, that’s about three time faster than the fastest comet ever recorded…

              • durango kidd says:

                Jerrytbg: No I didn’t know that. The data that I have read says that comets usually run at about 100k MPH and that some are as fast as 200k mph.

                For the comets to whiz by earth, they would have to be traveling about 100K mph as the earth moves through space at 60k mph. If they were traveling at less than 60k mph (1/3 of 175Kmph), they would not be able to whizz past US.

                Would they? :-)

                • jerrytbg says:

                  I stand corrected…according to JPL, Ison is moving at some 70 thousand mph…wow…!!!

                • durango kidd says:

                  Jerrytbg: Check Before Its News for a few articles about ISON. Also, check you tube for a video that a researcher has posted peeling away the layers that NASA has used to cover it up.

                  ISON is not a comet! It looks more like a Klingon Bird of Prey! LOL Draw your own conclusions! :-)

          • SmokinOkie says:

            DK- I’ll be at the observatory in Flagstaff Wed night.(weather permitting) Where do I look for Nibiru? Which sector? thanks

            • SmokinOkie says:

              Okay, maybe Lowell’s equipment won’t reach out that far. Still it’ll be fun to snoop around the neighborhood, see what’s out there. Maybe Elvis waving from a window on the mothership? … Underdog? …the womens dorm at NAU?
              At any rate, the people I’m going with are, …ahem, interesting folks to say the least (insert mischievous wicked smile here). Ought to be an entertaining evening. Got the bail bondsman on speed dial, just in case.

            • durango kidd says:

              Well as the Sun is low but about 30 degrees above the horizon, N is suppose to be at the 7 o’clock position. Ask the astronomer there on Mars Hill all about it and see how uncomfortable he gets.

              There is a Prepper show in Prescott Valley at the Toyota Center over the weekend. Be there to get there. :-)

            • Ugly says:

              For all you Astros out there. Why is there a North Star, but not a real South Star?

              Why was the calendar year 360 days then, and now 364(1/4)?

              Smokin. I believe the legend of Nibiru is that it has an exact orbit opposite as earth about the sun, but on the other side of sun. Thus, we never see it because the sun is always blocking it because our orbits are the same, always 180 degrees.

              Kind of like how we see only one side of the moon, never the dark side.

              Also, it is possible that Nibiru is composed of dark matter. That is, matter that exists but cannot be seen because it absorbs light rather than reflecting it.

              Have fun at the observatory….

              • SmokinOkie says:

                Thanks, DK. Just checked the weather for tomorrow night in Flag. Doesn’t look good, 40% chance t-storms. Talked to friends. We’re going anyway.

              • durango kidd says:

                NASA did send a probe to look at the space behind the Sun some years ago, specifically to test the Nemesis theory and they have reported that no “twin exists”.

                That’s what they say anyway, but I know my “twin” lives there and much better than I do here! Its my dopplinganger!

                Just saying! :-)

      • Sean says:

        Using the numbers you gave it would arrive in 13-18 months.

        • durango kidd says:

          Sean: Yes. But how far out it really was and how fast it is really moving is still conjecture for me. It has been photographed in the Infrared. That is a fact.

          There is also the phenomena of the “second Sun” in photos that has been reported around the world, which if true would suggest that it is much closer. There are concerns about the orbit of the Moon being out of sync as well.

          I used the 50 billion miles as that was the original estimate. The earth moves through space at 60k mph, comets 100,000 mph or more, even 200k mph. Working backwards from 2015, I came up with the 175k mph.

          Is that a realistic speed? I don’t know, but it seems possible to me and within the speeds of say comets.

          I accept the theory of Nibiru as a planet on an eliptical orbit very different from OUR solar system, because astronomers have found other systems with a planet with an elongated eliptical orbit. So if unusual, it is not unknown.

          My personal opinion has always been that if it exists the timing might be much later, say another 5 to 15 years, to coincide with events on the ground and Biblical Prophecy.

          Time is the protocol by which God catalogs eternity, so absent a really big telescope, I will anticipate its arrival when I see it visible in the sky. :-)

          • possee says:

            Concern yourselves not over celestial possibilities..

            as they are but conjecture at best…and if they do reach out and touch us..then all bets and preps are for not..period..

            Concern yourselves over the evil that men do..it has occurred since the beginning and is well on its way as we speak..

            We are still in the feudal system..hopelessly hanging on to the yore of the past avoiding the king and his minions..avoiding the corrupt sheriff of Nottingham…and avoiding the taxman..but they have not gone away..

            They have only become more cunning at their game..and are actively outing us in every which way ..to extract every last dollar we earn til we cry for mercy..

            Yet no one fights back anymore as in the old days..we just complain, discuss, legislate,mitigate,vote,hide,prepare,,and yet nothing has changed for a thousand years.

            We are all still serfs..

            WTF?

            possee

      • Dr. Strangelove says:

        Not the best site, I know. But Wikipedia offers up several professional opinions as to why “Nibiru” or “Planet X” CAN’T exist. There’s a million reasons to prep, but this isn’t one of them, happily.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_cataclysm

        • durango kidd says:

          Dr Strangelove: That wiki article is basically a repudiation of Nancy Lieder who first claimed that N would be here in 2003. The latest from her is that N is in the “inner solar system”; meaning inside of Jupiter.

          Obviously it is not there. Nancy has never allowed criticism of her (Zeta) theory and she has now dropped her weekly response to questions and has gone underground.

          The history of physics and planetary science is littered with “can’t”. With OUR new understanding and new technologies these primitive ideas have dissolved.

          The infrared photo is a fact. The original find of the brown dwarf is a fact, and the disruption of the orbits of the outer planets is a scientific fact showing that a planetary body of some sort is pulling on them (Nemesis Theory).

          Keep an open mind. And don’t bet the ranch on a wiki article. :-)

          • I agree DK…listened to a radio interview today with Stan Deyo and he said that according to his calculations that Neptune and Uranus’s orbits are completely off and his conclusion is that something with an extremely strong magnetic pull has to be out there!

      • Them Guys says:

        “Fundamental, Bible believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in.” — Peter Hoagland, Nebraska State Senator and Humanist, speaking on radio in 1983 with the great American Pastor and Patriot Everett Sileven.
        [Perhaps the Senator should go back and reread the Constitution that he swore to uphold: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -- The First Amendment of the United States Constitution.]

        “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.” — David Spangler, Director of PLANETARY INITIATIVE, (a United Nations World Government Group).

        Pastor Kenneth Copeland sez!(he Owns 6-Planes/Jets! what a Piece of Work eh!)

        “Jesus is no longer the only begotten Son of God…God begets gods…[therefore] You are all little gods.” — Kenneth Copeland, television minister; from The Agony of Deceit pg.100. [This is heavy New-Age doctrine, in which man can aspire to such a level of enlightenment that he becomes even as God Himself. Dangerous stuff!]

        “Rothschild [Satanist, Illuminati, billionaire, world banking cartel] has kissed the hand of the Pope…Order has at last been re-established.” — Wilson, Derek. Rothschild The Wealth and Power of a Dynasty, p. 101.

        “It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.” — The Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 2, p.497.

        “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” — Benjamin Disraeli, 1844; Prime Minister of England.

        “There is no other global body responsible for peacekeeping, and as we move away from the age of the superpowers, it’s really the U.N. that is left to bear that role, we want the religious leaders to support that effort.” — Dena Merriam, vice chairwoman executive council of the Summit of World Religious Leaders held at the U.N. Building N.Y., Aug 2000. [We should point out that the only superpower left is the U.S.A., so it is us that they wish to 'move away from', i.e., supercede.]

        “I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.” — General Douglas MacArthur.

        “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.” — Justise Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supream Court Justice.

        “The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities states and nation.” — John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York 1918 -1925.

        “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson.” — Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President, in a letter written November 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

        • Them guys,
          This negates all your ‘jew rants’. I ask, were the Rockefellers jewish? Case closed.

          All these quotes are quotes I have used in my own writings to show that the real conspiracy is the Royal families of Europe, who deceive the whole world into thinking the Jews are the ONLY problem. The problem as FDR said, is the money houses, and the royals who feed off us like vampires. Your Bible tells you this, but your preachers are dumbed down, who think we are all ‘gentiles’. They have no understanding of the concept of Serpent seed.

          WE are ALL Sons of God, period. Jesus was the manifestation of the First Aeon, the Word, the Logos, the Son of Man who is in all of us, because He is the Root of the Tree of Life of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
          But, you would call this “Dangerous Stuff”, because you still are beholden to the Catholic’s war on knowledge, that the protestants took to heart as well. Your mind is still in the 4th century, along with most of our victimized clans. All victims of Rome, to this day.

          It is called the Doctrine of MYSTERY, and it is the Harlot’s name.
          If she is the Mother of Harlots, then who, exactly, are the Daughters? Who is the Beast of Ten shofars(horns)? She is Named Mystery who speaks blasphemy, and sits upon Babylon the Great, the Head of Gold, the rule of money and power of the white men. Who rule over The ten toes, virgins, and horns of the lost ten tribes, the Caucasian race. The fulfillment of Abraham, a Great nation and company of nations. A people who flew into the wilderness on the wing of an eagle, to escape the persecution of Rome. Prophecy has become history, yet preachers still preach 4th century mystery, and nonsense that keeps us divided and in conflict, perpetually.

          They are the churches of mammon and wealth, their true god preaching divided doctrines of mystery. Those who destroyed the teachings of Christ, and substituted the teachings of the 13th false apostle, after rewriting them to suit the mammon god of confusion.

          But only those with eyes that see, will see.

          • Them Guys says:

            Piper: Your New Ager Mambo Jambo mixed with your Own personal bible interpretations and chooseing verses you can spin or twist like horns or head of gold etc. Is simply typical new ager’s nonsense. You claim often that the entire bible was changed and corrupted by Rome(vatican) etc..Yet you constantly make use of “Certain” verses in most all posts from you. So what? Only verses Piper can’t understand, or more likly he can, yet don’t like the outcome, so he tosses those verses away. But hangs onto head of gold from Danials Statue….Because those verses Pipe can spin and use.

            I am NOT in any denomination or “religion” formally.

            NO…Rockefeller being jewish or not…So what? Suppose hes NOT jewish..So now That single point totally Negates all/everything I write of or what quotes etc I have Posted? They ALL are wrong? Due to rockefellers not a jew?

            Perhaps that new ager mambo jambo delusional fantasy nonsense of “Yes You all can become Little Gods from Within” type crap has severly warped not just your biblical thinking, but also warped other areas of thought you posess.

            PIPER WROTE:!! Jesus was the manifestation of the First Aeon, the Word, the Logos, the Son of Man who is in all of us, because He is the Root of the Tree of Life of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            There ya go Proof of NEW Ager Mixing two seperate things into One. Piper takes Two trees…Tree of LIFE and TREE of Knowledge of good and EVIL…Mixes both as One and then calls it JESUS!…But new agers always use words like “jesus” or “Christs” etc to cause a person to “Think” its christian or same as.

            But never do new agers use BOTH words “JESUS CHRIST” when speaking of Jesus or christ. Because words do mean certain things. And when Jesus and Christ are written as “Jesus Christ” it takes a whole different meaning on itself. It means Jesus IS “THE” Christ! Christ being THE ONE and ONLY “ANNOINTED ONE”….Just as liberal antichrists today allow the word of “God” to be freely used in PUBLIC… And on Govnt dollar bills, in GOD we Trust etc…Because “Which” or “WHOS” God does that mean?…It can mean ALL other gods…(All False gods)

            But the very Moment you Inlude the worh CHRIST with and As, “Jesus Christ” Oh Oh!! Look out! You just wrote that jesus Christ IS the Only ONE! the ONLY Annointed ONE Begotton of GOD. Which god? God the FATHER! The FATHER of Jesus Christ! the Anointed ONE! (new ager & liberal antichrists Demand you believe in “Many/All paths lead to the Same god and Salvation! WRONG! yet its why they all Insist you never mention “Jesus CHRIST”! because That Implies that HE Jesus IS the ONE and ONLY Truth and true path to God the Father and Your salvation eternally! How can libs/new agers combine all religions into a NWO One world religion if christians believe Jesus Christ is the ONLY Truth and Path? They cannot! Therefore as “little small antichrists”, new ager and liberal Kommies HATE Christians and Hate Jesus Christ! As He predicted would occure 2000 yrs ago!.)

            That greatly Angers new ager Mambo Jamboe’rs such as Piper. Why does that anger piper and his fellow traveler new agers? I will Tell You why!

            Because as Piper wrote of in HIS Posting…”We are All Sons of God”….WRONG!

            Heres what Jesus Christ said to the Pharisee Rabbi’s and ALL of there Jewish followers that Rejected jesus and Remained Jew religiously, aka Talmudic Judiacs.

            “Ye are OF Your father the devil(satan) and his Lust’s ye shall do(all you talmud jews)”(shortened verse by me TG)

            And what were those Lusts jews will do? “of Your father satan he was a murderer and a liar and a thief from the very begining”…Lie-steal-Murder…Thats thier Lusts they will Do because they are OF their Father Satan.

            Piper ignores such bible verses as they do not “fit” into his new ager spin cycle machine.

            Piper writes very well…So well in fact, that for new christians, or not yet Matured in gods word christians, it is easy for them to be deluded with words piper writes such as “All Sons od God” we All have the exact same God-stuff within Us humans as Jesus did! Ergo and therefore ALL human persons Can be a God from within. You just need learn eastern religious Meditations of the Shokra etc…Then sit still and go “Hummmmmmm” over and over to obtain the Vibes of the Vibrations from that little small “Inner god” so you can advance to the point your “inner small god self” will Blossom and Grow untill it escapes the Inner you and becomes Your OUTERness you!

            Then once we ALL become “christs” aka anointed ones, if we all Join together as one group of small gods, we can Together become as One Huge God! aka THE ONE! in “Oneness”!(will we all sing kumbya too?)

            But to acomplish such new age(its not new, been around since tower of Babel where Pharisee’s first invented Talmudisim based on all the false doctrines-false eastern religions-sex perversions-and various other falshood religious mambo jambo them Judah tribe jews in Exile learned while there, then made up their Oral tradition of Phariseeisim, which arouind 400 AD era became Talmud once they began to Write it into Books!) New agers and atheist kommies with their Master Race Talmudic Jews, must denounce and End all Christians and christianity as it is their, the combined forces of satan, nww agers-kommie atheists-talmudic jews, main enemy stopping their march to a NWO with a single new religion They shall control.

            Which Of Course Jesus Christ So Condemned, as talmud teaching by pharisee rabbi’s takes Gods words and Spins-Twist’s His words and Laws into “Doctrines And Traditions” of Men. And that makes Gods words and Laws to have zero effect! Very similar to new age Piper rants of!

            So Beware! Be Very beware! of new ager mambo Jambo’s by very gifted articulate writers such as “Piper” because they are as Crafty as Lucifer/Satan himself! and unless You study Your Bible well, and Learn True-Truths, it is very easy to become Deluded, from reading mambo Jambo’s written as if they make sense and “Tickle Your Ears” with “Sweet Words” and mentions of shiney Gold!

            Satan has Many minions and False Prophets all Pied- Pipeing there new age mambo jambo’s with biblical verse included to make You believe they too are Christians!

            FINAL NOTE: Piper forget the one single person of Rokefeller for a moment, Concentarte your studies on “Jacob SHIFF” the Main #1-Rothchild Agent in the USA during the late 1890-1900 eras…Jacob Shiff is the Bankster who FUNDED the JEWISH Bolshevik Communist’s revolution in 1917-18 that Genocided-Murdered-Exterminated MORE Christian White folks during the 20th century(1918 to 1991) than ALL other Combined era’s since Jesus Died in 33 ad(aprox date).

            Allow me to Repeat that: JEWISH Bolshevik Kommies, Funded BY Jacob Shiff, also himself a Talmudic-Zionist-Jew-Kommie, EXTERMINATED More christian and white folks in the 20th century, than all christians and whites ever before killed in like manners, when combined from the 1st century up to the deadly 20th century.

            And unlike simply Killing people as in self defense or Jusified War, those Zio Talmudic jewish kommies have a BLOOD/Murderous/LUST only Rivaled by Their true Father Satan the Devil!

            The methods those bolshevik jews used to finally murder as many as 150-MILLION in Soviet nations back in 1918 and Onward, were Worse than all you heard of that happened to christians during Roman Collesium days in 1st century ad era when thrown to Lions and murdered so Horribly!

            Of course back then, rome 35 ad and onward, it was Talmudic jews who Hunted down christians and did every Devious method possible to convince Cesars of Rome to keep killing innocent christians. All based on and Due to RABID Racist Self important, Talmudic teaching and Beliefs that jews have which causes jews to so Hate all “Goyim aka Gentiles” aka all Non jews.

            An unrivaled-un ceasing-un quentchable Hatred that leads to a Massive Thirst for Innocent Human Blood for their animal sacraficial evil ways. Goyim= herd animal such as Cattle. To Talmudic jews beliefs Goy gentiles(Thats all YOU non jews!) are no more than equals to Cattle Animals.

            Talmud verses teach and OK jews to Murder even the Best of gentiles! murder Baby goyim small children since jews Know that “baby goyim” shall grow to be an Adult gentile goyim, and then will surely be an Enemy of jews. So why not Kill/Murder that Goy small baby child Before it grows to adulthood and becimes a larger problem for jews?

            Sounds alot like New ager mambo jambo spin don’t it?

            And like it or not Piper ET AL: It is Never racist nor antisemitic to discuss Historical Documented Facts, Proven by even Many Jew writers and speakers themselves!

            There is simply No possible accurate way to discuss such evils and issues without nameing the true Culprits. And be those culprits jwish-whites-african blacks-or indians-hindus-catholics-etc etc ad infinitim.

            Ironic you never heard any Protests when historical wrongs or evils are spoken or written of when the “Bad Guys” are WHITEYS! eh? In fact todays PC lib kommie demands, demand that Only when its issues about Jews and to a slightly lesser degree, Black folks, MUST You all Zip yer Lip! and mention Nothing! It don’t matter a bit if it is Factual Truths! If its jews just forget it all and shut up!

            Why? what do those jews and zio talmudics have to HIDE? The TRUTH perhaps? Which if enough “gentile Goyims” discover, may cause jews to LOSE the One ONLY major weapon jews have? That being to Convince all gentiles, especially american whites and christians, that jews are no more or less than “Always Innocent Persecuted folks” who Nobody worldwide can ever figure out Why..Why if so innocent are they so despised and persecuted down thru the ages?….Wheres Einestien? when ya need him eh?

            Thats BS fantasy jewish induced thru jew owned MSM etc.

            Truth is Many Gentiles Knows truth and facts and are sick and tired of seeing so many delusional idiots still clinging to falshoods such as “Chozen people” nonsense.

            And teachings NOT in any Bible anywheres IE: “Bless the Jews or God wont bless america”! Its NOT in your bibles folks as its a LIE!

            Exposure of all their lies is the jews only worry(pipers too it seems) for same as usa blacks, jews have ONE way, to keep gentiles deluded so jews can RULE as in Russia 1918 zio kimmie Talmudic jewish rulers…Thats to Keep americans believing jews are the Only “Victims” that count or matter. White christians “feelings” jump on it and allow jews a 100% Free Pass, and condemn fellow whites and christians like Me who speak Truth and Expose jew fables and lies etc…Well get Used to It! Cause I shall Never stop spreading factual Truths and doing My very Best to DESTROY Communisim and those who Perpetrate it to Rule over Others, especially when those Others are Us in usa! If that makes me an antisemite? So Be It!

            Disclaimer: I do NOT Hate any persons, be they black-jewish-white-hindu-catholic-muslim-islamic-indian-etc. etc.

            What I DO HATE! Is Kommies-Bolshevisim-Talmudisim-Zionisim-and all related evil Ungodly, curruptions.

            BECAUSE: I HATE the Many many many EVILS Perpetrated By and due to those Beliefs and systems. If That makes me raysis or antisemitic? So Be It! I REFUSE to stop doing what many More folks and Christians Should be doing! Write and Speak Truth.

            I hope I pass the audition for Piper and several other deluded fools here…If Not…Too bad fools.

          • Road Runner says:

            Piper Michele: are you some kind of jackass or do you just bray like one? You shithead you know all too well that Rockefeller is a Rothschild errand boy. So fuck off asshole. Has been for a whole century and has fucked this country royally. You know damn well where the money power is and it runs fucking Rome also you jerkwad. Piss off unless you can start telling truth instead of being a secret agent man! The ass-wipe Jews are the prime movers and dipstick, you know it! Shill! These same dipshits are the ones fucking the Veterans and you sit on thumb and rotate…the truth is not in you! The fucked up intermarried morons, the elites can’t wipe their ass without a Jew there to watch…ask Obama and our congress asshole. The fucking Queen of England can’t even go into the Square Mile owned by Rothschild unless she crawls first and asks permission. You an inbred idiot! And all who think this snot nose is wise are morons too. The swill you write sickens me. Your writing style tells me you never served your country did you dick weed. Them Guys pegged your sweet little ass swisher.

      • Dk,
        And You accuse me of ‘dumb ideas’…?

        well, I will not accuse you of even dumber ideas, but, this has been going on for 20 or more years, it has always been “next year”.

        But, there is a statistical probability that it could happen, so I will assign a ‘neutral’ opinion on this. I will assign contingency plan Zebra to it. Zebra = Pray you or yours are spared, then Bend over and kiss your a** goodbye.

    3. RICH99 says:

      People keep saying its not sustainable but it IS being sustained ….go figure!!!

      • Satori says:

        yeah
        and the cancer pt is being kept alive by chemo

        UNTIL he ain’t

      • Rodster says:

        It’s being sustained by the greatest Global Ponzi Scheme ever created. It’s all built on “Lies, Deceit, Coverup and Theft” ;)

        Sincerely

        - The Banksters

        • KY Mom says:

          Personal Liberty: Why the Economy is Dying

          Fractional Reserve Gold, Fractional Reserve Banking, Money Printing and Economic Decline Go Hand In Hand

          “In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold.

          If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.”

          “The economy functions best when on a hard money standard and absent central control of the money supply and burdensome taxation and redistribution. The Federal Reserve, ostensibly created to keep the economy stabile, has created financial booms and busts, impoverished savers, and destroyed the middle class.”

          Personal Liberty Digest

        • RICH99 says:

          You just said said its being sustained by a ponzi scheme but the article said its NOT sustainable …..WHICH ONE IS IT ASSHOLE !!!!!!!!!!!

          • Rodster says:

            You can artificially sustain the economy but eventually it will implode which is exactly what’s happening here. ;)

            Fractional reserve banking based on Fiat currency always ends in disaster. Look it up JUNIOR! Btw, nice meltdown.

          • Rodster says:

            Isn’t hilarious how the left call skeptics of global warming or whatever the new term is this week. They are pegged as climate change deniers. It’s predicated on junk science to fit their agenda.

            And yet you see actual numbers on how the global economy is collapsing with actual evidence and yet your side has NO problems denying it’s a problem.

            Remember Detroit and Stockton, CA got there first. ;)

        • Them Guys says:

          The CFR [the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations] was not strictly a political scheme, it all came out of the Illuminati – which later merged with the Freemasons: “…this satanic plot…was organized by one Adam Weishaupt, born a Jew, who was converted to Catholicism and became a Catholic priest, and, at the behest of the then newly-organized House of Rothschild, defected and organized the Illuminati. Naturally, the Rothschilds financed that operation, and every war since then, beginning with the French Revolution, has been promoted by the Illuminati – operating under various names and guises…after the Illuminati was exposed and became notorious, Weishaupt and his co-conspirators began to operate under various other names. In the United States, immediately after World War I, they set up what they called the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and this CFR and it’s hierarchy are actually the Illuminati in the United States.” — The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations by Myron C. Fagan (a transcript from a vinyl record made in the late 60′s – early 70′s).

          “From the days of Sparticus, Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotski, belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg and
          Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite
          recognizable role in the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.” — Winston Churchill to the London press in 1922.

          “The few who understand the system, will either be so interested in its profits, or so dependent on its favors that there will be no opposition from that class. The great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages will bear its burden without complaint.” — Rothschild Brothers of London, In a letter discussing their new banking scheme with fellow conspirators, June 25, 1863, long before their takeover of the U.S. banking system (the privately owned Federal Reserve). [most people do not know that the U.S. Federal Reserve is not a government institution, but rather it is a privately held monopoly].

      • Satori says:

        in Germany
        in the 1930′s
        some Jews
        a very few
        put 2+2 together
        saw what was happening
        and GOT OUT

        the rest?
        the huge majority?

        they stayed
        and
        they went to the camps
        and
        they died

        • Government Guy says:

          So are you an expat? Have you gotten out or will you be going to the camps yourself?

        • Them Guys says:

          There were aprox 3-Million Total jews in ALL of europe when WWII began. By 1961, Over 3.5 Million jews Claimed they were Holyhox “Survivors” eligable for Survivor Benifits aka= $$$!!

          Many documented factual Records of allied nations-jewish encylopedia-German records-World Population documented numbers etc etc say there were ONLY aprox 500-550,000 Total Jews in Germany when Hitler came to elected power.(Germanys total POP in 1935 era was aprox 90-95 Million, of which 1/2 of One Percent were jewish! where did the over 5 million Xtra jews come from? More zionists lies?)

          Are we to believe that 5.5 Million More jews, from other nations WENT to Join the 1/2 million jews already IN germany if such atrocities were actually occuring as “some” Brainwashed american folks believe and Cling to such beliefs(which came from the exact same fed govnt-MSM’s-Public school texts etc, these Same folks claim nobody in their right mind should trust, nor believe as their combined info soruces are ALL Compromised by swindlers owning MSM and Fed govnt entities? Yet they believe whatever those Same MSM and govnt entities told about “jews” in germany WWII?…..And all who suspect such jew-info is Vastly exagerated, and mixed heavily with Lies, by the very folks Christ warned us were like their Father Satan IE: “You are Of your father satan, His Lusts You will do..He was a Liar-thief-and Murderer from the begining” (Jesus spoken to Jews and their pharisee leaders) All who suspect such WWII info, or Reject much of it…Then they are always all antisemitics right.

          How can one be antisemitic, when DNA Proof shows at least 98% of those who today call selves Jewish, are Khazers-edomites-hunn/turk/mongrel/caucasian, and have ZERO “semitic” dna or blood in them?

          I Propose all you who love to scream racist antisemite at everyone who reject some or Most of what You brainlessly believe in and unquestionably defend, that being, Jews…You all should Switch tactics, and call all who reject what you so believe as facts etc…Call them “AntiHUNN” or “AnitKhazers” or “Antimongrels” or “AntiTurks” as That would be way more Appropriate since ZERO semitic DNA is in at least 98% of the jews.

          I love it when A Plan comes together! A-Team

          • JC75 says:

            Them Guys: take a deep breath & focus. There are many of us who’ve done the research & know what you post is true. For instance: I know that Israel = Isis (moon) + Ra (sun) + El (planets). But, you’re constant posts about Jews borders on obsession. Research the links between the Vatican & the royal families. You could do further research & ask, well, who’s controlling the so-called Jews? There are unseen forces behind them as well. Who built the pyramids & all the other ancient moniliths? Who built these massive underground caverns like Derinkuyu? It’s all speculation at this point.

            • Them Guys says:

              JC75: I have researched what you spoke of. Royal families-Vatican etc. Who built pyramids? Seems much historical proof agrees it was built by slave labor over many decades of time. Who built pyramida has zero to do with Facts, that when a person researches and discovers much long hidden truth of history, and then connects the Dots and follows the $$$ trails. That no matter what the issues are, no matter how much money was swindled, who profited Most, whos people always are the Very Top inner circle controllers, etc etc.

              That person will always, or Most always find at the end of dots connected, and end of money trails, they find Jews-zionist jews-bolshevik atheist jews-orthodox jews etc at the very end of that trail and path.

              Yes although Rare, there are a few issues where it was gentiles who are the guilty culprits.

              However, if its compared to say for example Violent Crime stats in USA, according to aprox 40+ yrs of Yearly crime stats compiled by the FBI, who does the absolute best job of any in the world. Compiled violent crime stats based on Every cop report-court judgment-convictions-arrests-what gender did crime-what age did it-what Race did it-what type weapon- done withOUT a weapon-etc etc..

              If you research those massive FBI crime stats files Online at fbi dot gov, you see a Pattern. A documented honest accurate stats pattern that shows on average each year for the last 40 Plus years now…That while they only represent aprox 10-12% of usa total population numbers, it is each year, every year that Blacks commit a vastly enormous number of violent crimes. When compared to the population numbers of whites(aprox 68-70%) you see that a White man or woman is about 50-Times More likly to be a Victim of Black crime against a white for Murders etc.

              Now of course one Must remember always, NOT all nor every Black person is a violent criminal. That should be self evident and not need be said right.

              Same goes for jews and communisims atrocities and banksters etc right. No NOT All Jewish folks are that way.

              BUT! When in the course of researching certain issues you find such Vastly Massive Hugely Disproportianate, when compared to actual percent of general total Population, numbers of ANY Certain Race or group is who the culprits most always are…Such as Violent crime per fbi stats, Blacks do aprox 83-89% every year! while consisting of 10-12 % total POP…Or since 1848 Karl Marx era kommie manifesto written, a vastly Disproportional number of Kommies and Exterminators of whites and christian folks, just happen to be aprox 90+% every era, every time, every Nation, perps were/are jewish…

              Then at some point it Must be accepted that while NO not ALL are that way…So many ARE that way, only an abject Fool or Ignorant person would consider trusting Anyone from that group or race. To do oterwise is akin to Playing Russian Roulette or wishing for suicide.

              Since the vast majority in america Are so ignornat and trusting of potential enemys and kommies, and since our entire nation top to bottom Is now under kommie zionist jewish control of every aspect that controls-runs-pays-profits from-all forms MSM-TV=Radio-Unions-Universities-Fed govnt-Fed and most State Judges-etc which like it or not Totally controls all Public messages and opinions and sets standards for all society in general…

              I feel that not only should I continue to relentlessly try to awaken people to it all..But that also I feel it is a failing process since way More who Know truths, as You claim to know of, are not doing the much needed Job to help awaken folks.

              Remaining silent, or go hide in a cave till smoke clears?…If you subscribe to That, Look in the Mirror for answers to why america is so screwed up today.

              Too FEW doing what I and a couple Others here does. Perhaps You can be added to those who Know And use their knowledge to awaken more folks too.

              I see NO problem today that is worse than what and Who is totally controlling and Destroying america and especially white middle class americans. I cannot help it that vast majority of those “TPTB” as most calls them happens to Be Jewish and or zionists. They choose that path. I simply awaken folks To these issues and Facts.

              While many keep eyes Glued to a Unseen-so far non existant “Nemo” planet that may exist and if yes may do earth harm?….I rather see folks focus on whats happening Now today and last 100 yrs to destroy america from within…Thats bolshevik and zionist kommie jews.

              All jewish folks who are NOT part of that…Great! welcome aboard!…I will never refuse help to such folks if I can assist. Problem so far= How do we tell Which are that Very Small percentage who are the “Good” ones?

              Same with Blacks. Which are that small 5-10% that are the “Good” blacks? Especially when most all look the same basically. I shall leave it to all them Good blacks and jews to make the Leap! and Step Fwd so we can know in advance whos real patriots and not kommies etc.

      • RICH98 says:

        Yeah…tell me about it. I been comin here very short time and every day is same shit. Same fucking info over and over by different people.
        I think all these websites are advertising scams.

    4. Wilson says:

      I’m a real(ist) pessimist who’s optimistic that my preps will see me and mine through the coming doom

      • RICH99 says:

        Your using one of my favorite word ….I love it ……COMING !!!!
        isn’t it ironic that its always coming

        • ScoutMotto says:

          Well, Rich, CNN just said that “Obama warns of another financial meltdown.” Does that tell you anything?

        • RICH98 says:

          Its always coming like Fred Sanfords Heart attack.

          Same shit, dofferent day.

          SGTReport
          Gerald “white shoe boy” Celente
          James “out of his mind” Rawles
          Michael “the jew” Snyder

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          They all want the money they are telling you is no fucking good.

          BUt Its gonna happen! This year latest!

          • Satori says:

            well its like Noah said

            “I’m not starting on this damn boat until it starts raining”

            oh wait…..

          • RICH99 says:

            RICH98 your absolutely correct …the ddomtards forget about the GOLD 2000 , the bank holiday , the economic collapse , etc..

            • jerrytbg says:

              Hey… I bought most of what I have as a hedge against inflation and so far it’s working out pretty good…
              Now I’m at the point where I can wait for so called “sales”…
              Which, most times were the prices from 2-3 yrs ago…

          • TomSc says:

            BTW “Fred Sanford” did die of a heart attack in real life.

          • Them Guys says:

            Rich98: SGT site owner don’t need your $$$. Because his Day Job is Head Producer for TV shows such as Opraha-Dancin with the Stars!-and aprox 1/2 Dozen more such tv shows and sit-coms…..The sgt website is simply to Infrom all of you folks about the exact Same MSM swidnles such as Opraha! Dancing with stars! etc etc etc.

            Perhaps sgt need change to Hypocrites?

            ps: See Yutube videos from a month or so ago, which is a 20 minit long expose’ of this info on sgt report owners “Day Job” etc. A poster here posted a Link to that Very yutube video in the last sgt article at This site.

    5. Infidels-r-us says:

      When the public is faced with a situation where truth is stranger than fiction, they are understandably willing to discard what they are seeing as just their imagination. The public doesn’t want to admit they are controlled, directed, brainwashed, and lied to by 500 or so criminals that are guarding the henhouse. Nobody likes bad dreams so they say “it ain’t there”. I promise you will not be able to find a politician when SHTF. They have the lemmings on the cliff edge now and all we need is a gentle push from our “public servants” and its off to la-la land.

      • patientmomma says:

        This is a little off topic, but also on topic. http://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/ has a 15 minute video … Don’t go off to the FEMA camp without watching this! Towards the end of the video it talks about an implantable chip which controls everything in your life. OMG, it is what the Book of Revelation talks about…no one can buy or sell with out the mark of the beast in them.

        • Travis says:

          You can barter….

        • The Lone Ranger says:

          PatientMomma,

          Amen!

          And it’s been EXACTLY what Jesus has been telling John Leary and Maria about the Mark = the RFID chip: it will disable your free will; you will hear voices commanding and controlling you; in it are diseases designed to kill hundreds and hundreds of millions of people; accepting the Mark consigns you to Hell.

          Jesus also repeatedly said we are to store water and nonperishable food.

          Recently, He announced that the Antichrist will soon emerge but be deceptively perceived as a peacemaker after war breaks out in the Middle East.

          “This generation” will witness His Second Coming after He throws into hell the Antichrist and his minions.

          Yes, Hell does really exist.

          I advise everyone to read the Messages if they want to understand God’s anger, coming Chastisements if humankind does not turn from sinful (destructive) ways, THE WARNING, and Jesus’s Plan to protect the Faithful.

          http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com
          http://www.johnleary.com

          - The Lone Ranger

      • JustMe says:

        “The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.”
        - J. Edgar Hoover

        • Them Guys says:

          JustMe: Yes great find by J Edger Hover quote! And one must ask…Who and What was J edger so Obsessed to find and Expose and Rid the usa of? I will tell you.

          J Edgers main objective was to Find-Expose-Alert americans to-Kommies! He was villified same as Sen. McCarthy with his Senate/house Unamerican Activites investigations. Why were those two men so villified and hated, especially by Hollywood types?

          Because they discovered and made Public the FACT that a Vast Majority of actual CPUSA-Commie party of usa membership roles as well as Vast majority kommies in Hollywood were…..Jewish. Bolshevik Kommie Jews from Russia and Poland here to foment communisim to Destroy america and it’s us const and BOR etc.

          McCarthys ONLY mistake was in assumeing so few kommies in america then in 1950 era…There were way more! Today only an ignorant Fool or a Kommie themselves would attempt to deny such truths. Picture how much Worse the kommoe problem/issue is Today if it was so bad in 1950.

          Thats thanks to a large majority of folks Afraid to speak out and name names for fear of PC mandated silence on all issues jewish or zionist.

          Tell Your grandkids Your Fear of being called stupid vile names like antisemite or raysis, is the Main reason You allowed kommies to destroy grandkids futures! I bet they wont buy that crap!

    6. Prepperdude says:

      My wife and I are made fun of all the time, and it’s okay. Slowly, friends and family are coming around. I have even gotten a couple friends to pick up food storage and personal protection.

      The key is persistence, and leading by example. Prepping is a lot like politics and religion, most everyone seems to see the value in it, but everyone has a different opinion.

    7. TacticSC says:

      You can call US crazy now while WERE preparing but WE will be calling you crazy when your heading to the grocery store to start preparing a little TOO LATE.

      -TacticSC

      • Prepared Pastor says:

        Being crazy and being a prepper are not mutually exclusive. One is only crazy, however, if they traded the life they wanted to have for one of paranoia. The will to survive is proportional to having a reason to live in the first place.

        • JustMe says:

          “He who has a why to live, can bare almost any how.”- Friedrich Nietzsche

        • Sometimes, my reason to live is purely to be a giant thorn in the side of TPTB.

          • Them Guys says:

            Sixpack: TPTB-Such as These Folks perhaps?!!

            Source of the below list: The Illuminate News Org., an organization dedicated to exposing prominent persons that hold degrees and membership in the various occultic Secret Societies.

            George Bush: Skull & Bones, CFR, Trilateral Commission, Committee of 300, JASON Society (Illuminati)
            Bill Clinton: Bilderberger, Trilateral Commission, CFR (Rhodes Scholar. See: Cecil Rhodes)
            Saddam Hussein: 33 ° Freemason
            King Hussein: 33 ° Freemason
            Tony Blair: 33 ° Freemason
            Gerhard Schroeder: 33 ° Freemason
            Benjamin Netanyahu: 33 ° Freemason
            Yasser Arafat: 33 ° Freemason
            Ronald Reagan: 33 ° Freemason (on sight), Knights of Malta, Rosicrucian Order
            Michail Gorbatjov: 33 ° Freemason
            Helmut Kohl: Committee of 300
            Shimon Peres: 33 ° Freemason
            Francois Mitterand: 33 ° Freemason (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Yitzak Rabin: 33 ° Freemason
            Willy Brandt: Committee of 300
            Gerald Ford: (former President USA) 33 ° Freemason
            Karl Marx : (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Frederick Engels: (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Franklin D. Roosevelt: (32 or 33 ° Freemason)
            Sir Winston Churchill: 33 ° Freemason (but Resigned from the English Lodge!) Member of the Druid Order
            Neville Chamberlain: (Committee of 300)
            Harry S. Truman: 33 ° Freemason
            Vladimir Lenin: Illuminati (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Joseph Stalin: Illuminati (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Leon Trotsky: (Grand Orient Lodge)
            Henry Kissinger: (Committee of 300, P2 Freemasonry, Knights of Malta, Bilderberger)
            Lord David Owen: (Royal Institute of Int. Affairs, Committee of 300)
            Lord Peter Carrington: (Committee of 300, Bilderberger)
            Richard Holbrooke: (33 ° Freemason, Committee of 300)
            Jimmy Carter: (Tril. Comm., CFR)
            Carl Bildt: (Bilderberger)
            David Rockefeller: Czar of the Illuminati
            Edmund de Rothschild: Illuminati
            Alan Greenspan: Federal reserve Bank (Committe of 300)
            Peter Wallenberg: S-E Bank of Sweden (Committee of 300)
            Queen Elisabeth II: Queen of the Committee of 300
            Prince Phillip: 33 ° Freemason, Committee of 300
            Lee Teng-hui: Illuminati
            Baron Guy de Rothschild: Illuminati
            Hillary Clinton: Illuminati (6 ° Grand Dame)
            Albert Pike: (founder of Ku Klux Klan) ( in charge of 19th century American Freemasonry) (Caller the: ‘father of modern Masonry’) Illuminati
            Sam & Edgar Bronfman Jr.: (Seagram Whiskey) Illuminati
            ROCKEFELLERS: David, Nelson, Winthrop, Laurence, John D. III: Illuminati
            Lord J. Rothschild: Illuminati
            Bertrand Russell: (scientist) Illuminati
            Otto of Habsburg: Illuminati
            J. Edgar Hoover: 33 ° Freemason
            Cecil Rhodes: (Rhodes Scholarships) 33° Freemason
            Aleister Crowley: (Premier 20th century Satanist) Grandmaster Ordo Templi Orientis
            Walt Disney: 33 ° Freemason
            Olof Palme: Committee of 300, Bilderberger
            Al Gore: 33º Freemason
            Tony Blair: 33 ° Freemason, Bilderberger
            Josef Mengele: (Dr. Green): Illuminati Implanter
            Robert McNamara: 33 ° Freemason (at least)
            Pehr G. Gyllenhammar: (frm Volvo) Committee of 300
            Giovanni Agnelli: (FIAT) Committee of 300
            Percy Barnevik: (ABB Sweden) Committee of 300
            Col. James “Bo” Gritz: 33 ° Freemason
            Billy Graham: 33 ° Freemason
            John Glenn: astronaut (33 ° Freemason)
            Buzz Aldrin: astronaut (33 ° Freemason)
            Virgil I. Grissom: astronaut (Freemason)
            Edgar D. Mitchell: astronaut (Freemason)
            Plato: philosopher (Illuminati)
            Francis Bacon: philosopher (Freemason, Rosicrucian Grand Master)
            Prince Bertil: (Grande Orient Lodge of Freemasonry)
            John Jacob Astor: Illuminati
            McGeorge Bundy: Illuminati
            Andrew Carnegie: Illuminati
            Walter Freeman: Illuminati
            W. Averell Harriman: Illuminati
            Ted Kennedy: Illuminati
            John D. Rockefeller Sr.: Illuminati
            David Rockefeller: Illuminati
            King Carl XVI Gustaf: (Bilderberger)
            Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands: Committee of 300 (Bilderberger)
            Charles T. Russell: founder of the Watchtower Society – Jehovah Witnesses. (Knights Templar Mason)
            Giuseppi Mazzini: (in charge of 19th century European Freemasonry) Also founded the Mafia. Freemason (degree unknown.)
            Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands: Committee of 300 (Bilderberger)

            And, Dandy& Dopey of Mayberry RFD.(not really)

    8. REEL ISSUES says:

      @ Durrango,

      Is there still any annawaki’s on that planet? As I have read that is were they were from many years ago. If it should collide maybe they will take over our Govt. and we will all live life in bliss.

      • durango kidd says:

        Personally I wouldn’t want to meet any alien that lives on a planet that is supposed to be 4 times bigger than Jupiter with a brown sun, but the Drake Equation shows that it is a statistical certainty that aliens exist in the Universe.

        There has been a lot of “buzz” about activities of giant spheres and cubes seen in SOHO pictures of the Sun. The recent technical analysis of the ISON comet by researchers is revealing something quite different than the official line.

        Draw your own conclusions. :-)

        • Facebook Page says:

          DK post your links.

          And what brought this out in you again.

          Is because you have been beaten up over the economy fight.

          Also saw you lost the troll vote yesterday. That had to surprise you didn’t it.

          • durango kidd says:

            FBP: Do your own research. :-)

            • durango kidd says:

              Carsales are up 25% year over year. 15 million units is a GREAT number ask any economist. Homes sales are up year over year, and prices are up too. Even domestic rail traffic is up.

              Don’t judge the economy by your checking account balance.
              :-)

            • Facebook Page says:

              Do. Why is it you can never support your statements. Its always do your own research. Support what you say or I call bullshit.

              • durango kidd says:

                FBP: You should read more and post comments less; and then you wouldn’t need me to ‘plain things for you, you would already have that info.

                A little knowledge goes a long way. :-)

                • Facebook Page says:

                  I do much research. And I come to almost the exact different conclusions.

                  When it come to economic my checkbook alone say I am right let alone my family holdings. (Many points we agree. Its the end game is where we differ I believe.)

                  When it come to voting time will tell. But it leaning my way.

                  On planets if that what were worried about I going to Vegas because nothing will save use then.. stick to what we can prepared for don’t stress what we can’t.

              • yourmotherwaswrong says:

                @Facebook Page

                Be assured, it’s bullshit.

                Professor Kidd is full of himself.

                His ego is bigger than the Grand Canyon.

                • Facebook Page says:

                  It might just be ego. I think that troll vote got to him. He expected it to be all for him.

                  I don’t think he is a gov troll. But I will say he is trolling for his ego to be stroked. Which is OK if he would keep a straight line and support his ideas.

                  Many old poster are getting mad that their ideas are ignored or debunk here lately. SHIF is becoming a bigger place.

          • CrabbeNebulae says:

            LOLOL :) Noah was a troll. Everyone gave him a thumbs down and he lost the troll vote too. But, what happened to all those beautiful people that gave him a thumbs down?

        • Archivist says:

          The Drake “equation” is based on a load of assumptions, such as “assume” a certain percentage of “assumed” planets have conditions “assumed” necessary for life. Since we have found no other life in the universe, we have no basis to even make a wild guess as to the values of some of the values in the equation. There is no “statistical certainty” that there is any other life in the universe.

          By the way, Nibiru does not exist. Here is a link to a video which explains how that is known for a certainty.

          http://lunarscience(dot)nasa(dot)gov/articles/truth-about-nibiru/

          • durango kidd says:

            The Drake Equation is a mathematical formula that allows for many VARIABLES not assumptions. It allows YOU to make the assumptions and use any (low) numbers and (low) percentages you want.

            Do the Math. I have. It is a statistical certainty that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe.

            Not so long ago, OUR government received signals emanating from around Saturn, but was not able to decipher the “code”. They sent a message back in Morse Code asking the source to repeat the message in Morse Code.

            A message came back that said in Morse Code: “We were not speaking to you.” Go figure. :-)

          • durango kidd says:

            Archivist: Now who is the government troll? NASA is the problem not the solution. They have manipulated photos from space and researchers have used sophisticated imaging techniques to roll the colors and other features back.

            You trust NASA to give US the truth about Nibiru? LMAO! :-)

          • “Since we have found no other life in the universe, we have no basis to even make a wild guess”

            Well, it’s not like we’ve been to very many places in the galaxy to compare notes on. You can’t judge an entire city from the confines of your own back yard.

            • durango kidd says:

              sixpack: The great shame of the human race is that WE have not really recognized the other sentient beings that inhabit our world and who are just as smart as WE are, like dolphins and whales and killer whales as example.

              While there are research institutes that work with them, WE have not shown them the proper respect. I’ll bet that WE could learn a lot from them if WE could hold a seminar with them.

      • JustMe says:

        Enki Enlil is your daddy…

    9. JayJay says:

      You can call me a pressure cooker; you can call me an anthrax; you can call me a doomer, too; but don’t forget to call me prepared!!

    10. Hedge says:

      This post is o/t, but I believe it merits some attention. Yesterday, A/P put out the story that the 17 year old,{ still a baby you know} shooter of the 1 year old toddler in his stroller will be going on trial next month. The story is basically a hit piece against the family of the 1 year old. It cites about how the mother had taken out a life insurance policy on her kid some months before, and goes on to quote the killer’s public defender as say that the REAL blame for the infants death lies with the parents. The story begins with the sentence ” It was a tiny bullet that took the life of 1 year old Antonio{ I don’t recall the last name} this last March”

      What point are they trying to make here? That it’s not as bad as shooting the kid with a .38? That some shithead public defender just can’t admit his client is an animal who’s lucky not to get the death penalty because he’s not 18? Today there’s a story about a college baseball player from Australia who was shot to death by some teenagers here in the states because they were “bored”. I suspect the shooters are black because A/P isn’t giving any names or other information about the killers. It’s too bad that they can’t find a white Hispanic guy to pin this on, these assholes could have a field day then. What the hell became of honest news reporting in America? Sorry, I forgot to run this by the Ministry of propaganda first, double plus bad on my part.

      • braveheart says:

        Hedge, if you want the truth about anything, that is what the alternative media is for. disregard MSM altogether.

        • Facebook Page says:

          Even the alternative media is getting bad about bring crap to the table.

          • braveheart says:

            FBP, there are certain sources in the alternative media that are just as bad as any MSM sites. Got to know how to distinguish between the good and the bad. braveheart

        • Them Guys says:

          Hedge: if you want to see and read articles that do show as many attacks against whiteys as can be found complete with grusome photos of victims, as well as photos when avail of the African Sub Human Animal Perps attacking so many whites. Check out www dot incogman dot net

          Incogman aint afraid to post such articles and call a Spade a Spade or a violent negroe Monky Ape when appropriate.

      • braveheart says:

        Hedge, I read that story on the aussie being killed. I also suspect the killers are black. It also said he was shot with a .22 revolver. braveheart

      • Vicky says:

        The first name of the shooter of the baby is “DeMarquis”. Should tell you anything you want to know. I wonder if the Aussie victim could look like Obama’s son, if he had one?

        • Hedge says:

          I’ve always thought that there should be a scientific study on how the ghetto female names it’s offspring. Is it merely a combination of too much crack and ripple? Or is it a fusion process of combining the names of their last 3 boyfriends on the assumption that ONE of them has at least a decent chance of being “baby daddy”.

          • Emily says:

            Lol, your comment made me laugh.
            Good pt.

            • Highspeedloafer says:

              There was a kid named Orangejello, wonder what mom’s favorite dessert was?

            • Them Guys says:

              I always wonder with 55% afrcian illerates how can they write there names on anything needing a signature, especially with such goofy spelled afrcian derived names.

              Must be some type Phycic Phenomona eh.

              Whats needed to fix this ghetto rat problem is a well armed Line of whiteys shoulder to shoulder, 50 layers deep, from the canada border to the mexican border.

              beginning at Atlantic Coast line….Headed Westward, across the entire nation On Foot like early setlers did, and makeing certain that No moree Rats and vermin destroyers of america remain standing once an area is passed. Vermin includes whitey enablers/libs too.

          • Archivist says:

            I know some of the reasons, and they are doozies. There is one I know of who named her daughter something she pronounced as “fuhmolly.” It turns out, when she was asked in the hospital what she was naming her daughter, the woman said the daughter had already been named and it was on her wristband. The wristband said “Female.”

            Watch this video by Shirley Q. Liquor and hear what her kids are called. And I know someone who taught kids with three of the names, so at least three of the names are real.

            www(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=JV04rj5QCzU

            anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax anthrax

          • slingshot says:

            Champipple comes to mind.

            Red Fox.

            • A neighbor had a little girl named “Tequila”, pronounced Ta-quee-la.

              • Them Guys says:

                Yet an east coast white young couple married etc got their Two kids, son and daughter taken by CPS state bastards simply for refuseing to change sons name.

                They named the son Adoplh. I forget the name of the girl, but the Stata workers CPS demanded both kids names be changed or else. The married white couple refused and lost noth kids and she was pregnant so CPS posted guards at hospital to snatch the 3rd kid when born!

                While black africans can name kids any name desired.

                Whietys badly need to organize and get reps like the black caucus has. High time to rid white guilt and PC madness and stop fears of being called vile names like raysis or antisemite and homophobe…just Laugh loudly and tell name callers FUCK YOU!

                Once you get experience doing that, you graduate to being able anywheres to say it with More authority…Like Fuck You Monky animals! Once an expert and 100% rid of all white guilt you will be able to say Fuck You Nigger in a public setting and fear nothing. Same for them bolsheis and zios…Not much else grabs their atten like telling them fuck You. Let Them all Fear whites for a change.

        • JustMe says:

          White Genocide, one dead Whitey at a time…

          Today, it was Baseball player, Christopher Lane, and yes we know who his murderers are…

        • Emily says:

          Vicky, I just said the same thing a few posts up.
          Great minds think alike… ;)
          I wonder if Obama realizes how unpopular he is, and his minion gov., or if they care? Probably they do not care.

        • braveheart says:

          If I had 2 sons, they would look like Zimmerman and the Aussie. If I had any daughters, they would look like the female jurors that found Zimmerman not guilty.

          • SmokinOkie says:

            braveheart- the Aussie was killed in Duncan, OK. By three ‘bored’ teens. Better description would be ‘a dipshit white boy and two punk-ass nigger boys who aught to all be hanged at noon tomorrow on live television.’ I don’t give a damn how old they are- if they’re old enough to pull a trigger, they’re old enough to swing. And the DA isn’t even asking for the death penalty! This really pisses me off! I don’t live there anymore, but Duncan is where I was born and raised. We didn’t used to put up with shit like this. Wish to God there was still some rednecks there who would ‘take care of business.’

      • Smokey says:

        Used to be, a public defender would merely ensure that his obviously guilty animal clients served a life sentence instead of the death penalty. Now they try and get them back on the streets.

      • JustMe says:

        They are trying to portray the killer as another St.Skittles…

        Po’ lil himz wuz juz ackin out..you know…ain nutin..

        • Bastet says:

          Yes, just heard the father of one of them on the radio (here Downunder) saying “he’s not a BAD kid”. WTF! What constitutes a “bad kid” in yankee land???

          • JustMe says:

            The world is upside down now, the parasites and thier marxsit lackies only demonize regular White people. White kids are far more likely to forced to take drugs for the fake ADD, and other contrived “disorders”. If you are White, and straight, OMG!!! Wait, we are’nt supposed to say “God” anymore…

          • What constitutes a “bad kid” in yankee land?

            A youngster who owns his own hunting rifle, is a member of 4-H and has never ended up in jail.

      • no justice says:

        They are reported in an aussie paper as black. no surprise.

    11. PO'd Patriot says:

      You can call me whatever you like. But if SHTF, you’ll have to call me long distance.

    12. REEL ISSUES says:

      Call me (maybe).

    13. braveheart says:

      Give me truth over ANYONE’S PROPAGANDA any day! I always know how to deal with truth. I totally reject propaganda regardless of the source. Back in the late 80s, I was on shortwave listening to Radio Liberty with Dr. Stan Montieth, The Hour Of The Time with William Cooper, Radio Free America with Tom Valentine, and Freedom Call with Bo Gritz. They were the pioneers of today’s alternative news media. I also subscribed to the old Spotlight magazine published by the Liberty Lobby. All of those pre-dated the internet. I never trusted the corporate media and never will. braveheart

      • Kevin2 says:

        braveheart

        Ahh The Spotlight, Secrets of The Federal Reserve, The Creature From Jekyll Island, the old charts from FREE (Fund To Restore An Educated Electorate), Best Evidence (about JFK) yep it took a long time to get info thats now is at ones fingertips. The truly knowledgable were reading this stuff two plus decades ago. When someone in their 40s or 50s just learned this stuff I think, “where have you been for the last couple of decades”?. Back then the 2nd Amendment Advocates and hard core Christians were the only people interested. Now that the wallet has been hit a lot more people are waking up.

      • Night breaker says:

        Braveheart,
        That really brings back the memories remember the “Intelligence Report” with John Stadtmiller and Mark Kornke? Seems like the stuff they talked about was way out there then, but now we all know better, it’s all happening now. That was only 25 years ago, another place and another time. I wish we could all go back to the 1980′s it was a better decade .

        I REALLY MISS AMERICA

        The MSM is now the propaganda arm of the current Regime in power, I refuse to call it an administration.

        It’s only a matter of time this all reaches critical mass , then it’s Katy bar the door.

        We are truely living in interesting times .

        Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

        RESIST

        Semper Fi 8541

        • braveheart says:

          Night breaker, oh yes, I could kick myself for forgetting about that one. All the ones I mentioned and that one are online now. they sound so much better on a computer, but someday we’ll lose the internet, so I have 2 shortwave sets with SSB capability stored away just in case. braveheart

        • Outlaw says:

          John Statmiller is still on the air, in fact he has his own network. Check out Republic Broadcasting Network. I wish we were back in the 80′s also.

      • braveheart, so you’re saying you’ve been on a CIA watch list for a very long time?

    14. Genius says:

      Ive been trying to warn the moronic public for years about the state of things and how to prepare. Think any of them listened? A few listened (very very few). In my observations over the last 10 years people are getting even stupider! They were idiots to begin with but now they are full blown retarded. Im tired of wasting my time and energy casting pearls before swine fook them. Its getting dangerous nowdays anyway to speak truth to these imbiciles they will probably rat you out for a sandwich. Or show up at your door when tshtf. Humans are too stupid to ever be free as shown by history, man has never been free. All these videos of people going out and asking the public questions or trying to get them to sign rediculous petitions and the incredible answers they get makes me want to puke! These idiots ar getting exactly what they deserve it just pisses me off they drag me down with them. Hopefully humanity will be weeded out and the awake folks will survive to rebuild a better place. I know I sound calloused but that is how I see it. Life is tough, it’s even tougher if your stupid (John Wayne). When the phsycopaths in power are finished I just hope theres still a livable earth for the rest of us…

      • braveheart says:

        Genius, I agree. Sad, but true.

      • OutWest says:

        Genius— don’t despair

        The normalcy bias monkeys ain’t all in the trees,
        there are a few rainbow apes that frequent this
        site for who knows what reason, that always think
        there will be a banana hanging from every branch.
        Knuckle draggers will be with us until the day
        they find out, “Yes, we have no bananas”.

        • Boss Hog says:

          OutWest thats funny,nice post.

          It occurs to me that it really doesnt matter if we survive this shtf or not Im still convinced that the possibility for death hovers at 100% for everyone. What does matter is how we live our lives, we have the ability to see what others, most in fact can not or will not. That being said we prepp ourselves according to what we see comming down the pike. Thats not doom n gloom its just saving up for a rainy day or two or many. Now mocking someone that readies themselves does nothing to change either parties eventual outcome but at the end of the day one will say “I wish I had listened” and the other will say “I tryed to warn you”.

      • maddog says:

        Exactly what I say to my wife Genius. The gene pool has gone to shit and I won’t feel sorry for the idiots. I no longer try to convince people to prepare. I figure if someone can not see what’s happening around them by now their to stupid or lazy to waste time on.

        • Canada Canuk says:

          @Maddog…have to agree with you on that one, but today I heard a very interesting interview on my car radio on a major CANADIAN radio station.

          Didn’t get to hear the whole program but the persons name (being interviewed) is MAX BROOKS (Mel Brooks’ son) He was discussing how scary the world is just now, and how he is teaching his children to be ‘resourceful’ (not to think they can grow up to think everything will be just ‘hunky dorie’…..cause it isn’t.

          He also mentioned he has large ‘orgaanic’ garden, because his mom had one all their lives….think he has a book out (something about zombies)…..wish I had heard the whole program..):

          The reason he was being interviewed about his book is because he is coming to Toronto Canada next week (to do a book signing?) All the was from California!!

          Sorry to be rambleing off topic, but thought you might think (like I did), that there are people like that out there, and they may be waking up quite a few people now….I did do a research on his name when I got home…..rather interesting!! take care all of you, CC

    15. ScoutMotto says:

      Communist News Network (CNN) just said “Obama warns of another financial meltdown.” Doesn’t sound like they are hiding it anymore.

      So what happened to all that talk about a recovery?

      Sounds like the debt virus relapsed.

    16. Ronald says:

      Gunshow this weekend at K.C.Mo. Its being held at the K.C.I. expo center that’s the 24th and 25th

    17. “You’ve probably been called a doomer, conspiracy theorist or worse on numerous occasions.”

      Or ordered not to research or simply watch/read mainstream news.

      Rich99, you didn’t write enough to clarify your statement:
      “People keep saying its not sustainable but it IS being sustained ….go figure!!!”

      This ignores several factors:
      1. Russo-Sino’s charge against the US Dollar’s world’s reserve currency status thus far negates in trade amongst themselves BRICS and with China Germany. Both have also expanded their precious metal reserves as well. US Foreign policy is designed specifically to prevent and overtake nations or non-western backed interests from dissolving the US Dollar as the world’s reserve currency status.
      2). The World’s reserve currency status allows the US to borrow/create massive amounts of US Dollars that isn’t backed by anything not even weight but fiat aka a credit line that enables it to both tax inflation as gain and export inflation to its foreign Treasury Bond holders while at the same time expanding the Federal Reserves balance sheets to keep runaway inflation at bay, which as trade agreements expand to use precious metals and/or their own currencies eventually dissolves the USD as the world’s reserve currency status.
      Do you support Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other military kinetic or otherwise actions? US Foreign policy centers around a globalized format of the Monroe Doctrine designed to by peaceful means or conquest to prevent threats to the US Dollar or simply Western hegemony (ignore balance of power at your own peril). If the US Dollar’s status gets dissolved, the ability to make the situation appear contained even through massaged statistics and graphics aka account gimmicks; the appearance of being sustained vanishes.

      Inevitably, the situation isn’t being sustained. On one hand, it’s doing precisely what Bismark hoped for in his lifetime being to develop and grant the appearance centralization to absolute authority is natural and dare I say progressive. On the other hand, the present circumstances have a similar problem that Bismark had. The populace is resisting absolute authority and public-private mergers more than; he had calculated in his bait and switch. While the collapse of the bait and switch due to war debt aka war reparations and the Weimar agreement ultimately led to his desired outcome many years later the desired effect functioned. In modern times, the IMF Riot is the globalized format of Cloward-Piven, the globalists are the modern Bismarkianists, the Neo-Malthusians are the Malthusian-Eugenicist movements combined, and the detailed innovations to the playbook remain largely unaltered. Same path with just some new twists and turns.

    18. Micky Bee says:

      Must be déjà vu! I was just talking about how so many people, family included, are walking around in a total oblivious state. Going out to eat several times a week, buying expensive concert tickets, family vacations (multiple I might add!). Meanwhile, I’m running around like a chicken with my head cut off buying additional toilet paper, beans, and water. Sometimes I feel like I’m in an episode of “The Twilight Zone” and Rod Steiger is going to walk around the corner and say “gotcha!”

      It half makes me want to cry to see so many off in left field. They are all going to miss the boat and unfortunately I don’t have enough paddles for all of them!

    19. swampratt says:

      This is what I have to say my fello crazy preppers some
      of you may think I am crazy but I crave for the collapse
      all out chaos I work with and for the educated who think we are crazy dumb freaks nuts theres a day coming very soon when theses educated upper class pig SOB’s will be begging for food I wont say what happens next GOD said help those that cant help them selves not them that wont help them selves I am talking to the pig trolls who visit this site F#$k you and die

    20. “You can call me darlin’…dar-lin.

      You never even call me by my name.”

      Sorry…The title of this piece brought that old David Allan Coe song to mind.

    21. Pissed off Granny says:

      Want to read another super opinion from an honest reporter. Check out John Rappaport’s Real News and have his articles sent to your e-mail. He makes Glen Beck look like a stooge when it comes to Big Pharma, Vaccines, GMO foods, etc. Worth the education. He is unafraid!!!

    22. Trailer Park Investor says:

      The END IS HERE!
      Staring us right in the face.
      The abyss draws ever so close, you can feel it, hear it, you can even smell it, only thing left is to see it and that will be soon, VERY VERY SOON.
      Time is oh so short, prepare what you can.
      Time is the most precious commodity you have left spend it wisely.

    23. Concerned Christian. says:

      Main stream media followers do I pity. For they are the lost and forgotten of this nation. I have mercy towards them. Because they have become the True Zombie. A daze and haze they carry on their shoulders , with their controlled inslaved lifes. Being led to the slaughter through lies and corruption. Keeping the Dumb Unto Death from the real news. The days of sorrows are upon us. The final countdown for humanity is at our door. Midnight has begun.

    24. Iowa says:

      I don’t know what will happen first, economic collapse or Mac’s chat forum…

      Any wagers?

    25. buzzfix says:

      Doom n gloom? I prefer to call it, realisistic optimism with a dash of situational awareness at its finest. The misconception is were negative and depressed. The truth is were actually looking forward to the future and the good things that can come out of it, maybe some are impatiant but, in the mean time we need to be prepared to see ourselves through to that promising future thats all. Honestly I don’t think anyone really likes to have to prep and have to constantly re-analyze strategies or add something new to the treasure chest for a newly realized hazard. Its expensive and a bit of a pain in the rear But! Is it necessary? Yes. Again were optimists insuring our stake in the hopes of a brighter and more promising future. Once again the crazed idiots out number the calm and wise. ;)

    26. Realtime Prep says:

      We live in the belly of the beast. The US stands to dictate everything upon everyone. If your beliefs differ from there’s they remove you. It just watch as funded by US troops remove you for them. Syria, or look at EGYPT, they can’t even publicly call it a coup because of they money. The dead have risen, look around, the sheeple arent sheeple, they’re brain dead zombies drooling over food stamps.

      RTP

    27. The bible says in the end times “Many will be DECEIVED”
      Just saying…..Looks that way to me….

    28. Watchman says:

      Way off in the distance, if its quiet and you listen real hard you can hear the engines on the ENOLA GAY warming up! ITS COILED AND READY TO STRIKE.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    29. Watchman says:

      Sun fires solar storm directly toward Earth — at 2 million mph

      Mike Wall, Space.com

      The sun unleashed a powerful storm early Tuesday morning, sending an enormous cloud of superheated particles rocketing toward Earth.

      The solar eruption, known as a coronal mass ejection (CME), occurred at 4:24 a.m. EDT Tuesday and blasted billions of tons of solar particles toward Earth at a mind-boggling speed of 2 million mph (3.3 million km/h).

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

      • JustMe says:

        10 out of 10 on the Sun Quiz ;)

      • BackSpace says:

        @ Watchman…

        Did they change their mind????? Thought the CME was on the other side of the sun….

        BS

      • A Christian Man says:

        Farsided Full-Halo CME Detected
        A large scale, full-halo Coronal Mass Ejection was captured by Lasco C2 and STEREO Behind COR2 late Monday evening. At first glance it would appear that it is directly headed towards out planet, however don’t be fooled. The event was farsided and heading the opposite direction away from our planet. Had it been directed our way, severe geomagnetic storming would have been probable.

        Read, reread, and check your info the above is from Space Weather com, headed directly AWAY from earth.

        Thank you

    30. Satori says:

      fail to prep at your own risk

      Post-Mubarak Egypt ‘running out of food’

      http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Resources/2011/05/18/Post-Mubarak-Egypt-running-out-of-food/UPI-63801305737085/

      “Food prices went up 10.7 percent in April compared to the same month in 2010, government statistics indicate.”

      the Arab spring uprisings had little to do with “democracy”

      it was food prices

      “”The civil violence we have seen … foreshadows far worse to come. The Arab uprisings began against a background of food insecurity, as rising demand from Asia priced the Arab poor out of the grain market.”

      “Egypt is reported to have only four months’ supply of wheat on hand and only one month’s supply of rice.”

      Can Riots Be Predicted? Experts Watch Food Prices

      http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/09/20/161501075/high-food-prices-forcast-more-global-riots-ahead-researchers-say

      • Exactly Satori…and the reason for the bread shortages is because Egypt went from an exporter of crude to an importer as their wells declined. Now the .gov can no longer subsidize the flour for the bread and prices have jumped. They cannot feed themselves. A sad situation.

        Perhaps the corporate DC government should give Egypt food aid instead of giving Lockheed Martin, etc. FRNs to ship weapons to Egypt’s military. The FRNs never cross the pond. They are paid directly from DC to the mil contractors and called “aid”.

        Inflation and weapons…the two biggest exports.

    31. Spider says:

      Gotta say. This website has been consistently wrong for years

      • Facebook Page says:

        When it comes to setting a date. Everyones been wrong for years.

        Better early then one day late

        • Prepped in CT says:

          I would rather be prepared and ready than not supplied and wishing…

          That’s what got my family through the outages we had immediately after Superstorm Sandy.

          After that storm, I almost declared myself Canadian. In the end, after weeks of being without power, a huge black and yellow electric truck arrived on our street, and they were from Quebec. Their trucks had HydroQuebec written on them. I was standing on my front lawn watching them and said thank you, and Long live Quebec.

          God bless them!

      • Anonymous says:

        spider F$%K YOU TROLL

    32. Barn Cat says:

      Most people refuse to wake up. I’ve told people about how the Fed is creating money out of thin air to pay for the deficit. They understand intellectually that there should be hyperinflation but they have no intention of stocking up on food and supplies. That’s 4 people so far. One guy knew about that. He went out and bought some rare coins. That’s it. Another guy has talked about buying gold but he hasn’t bought any food either. I feel bad for these people but I can’t take them in after the collapse. I don’t have enough food and water to last a year if I take in any more people. If we can, we’ll take in my wife’s friend’s stepdaughter who’s 8. We like her a lot. I assume she won’t eat much.

    33. sunshine says:

      One of the best articles that I have read, that gives you and overview of where we came from and what is happening and where it will lead..if not stopped, is “The Sad Road To Socialism” by John Loeffler, written July 23, 2008 at newswithviews. Direct website: http://www.newswithviews.com/loeffler/loeffler21.htm He writes rather humorously the 3 stages of socialism…from a composite of history of many countries who have followed this sad path. We are definitely in the 2nd stage…if not the beginning of the 3rd…and he says the 3rd stage is where no country wants to go. I listened to the video that was with this article at SHTF, and where it talked about Detroit…and its government people possibly losing most all of their promised retirements…etc…and it reminded me of this article. John Loeffler says, that when it all comes down…there are many very unhappy people: those that find out that there is no free lunch…and those that paid into the system, and find that what they paid in and were promised, is gone…etc..he points out who is to blame…but what is good about this article is that it shows you the stages that a country goes through…and most people here at this website, have seen all this happening..incrementally. As Loeffler states, “socialism is that mechanism that takes government from being a protector of private property to a plunderer of it. The core result of Socialism is the destruction of private property and wealth”. This article ties in well with what was discussed on this video (included with this article on SHTF)

    34. wildman says:

      You can call me what ever you want just dont showup at my door expecting to get fed and clothed. If ya dont pay attention ya just gotta pay the piper! its just the part of murphy,s law that always comes to see me when i screwup. Tomatoes are on so its back to canning them up , some for sauce, some peeled but all of good to eat. wildman out.

      • JayJay says:

        I have some in the dehydrator now; with jalapenos.
        Tip for dehydrators:
        If you fold individually the spices or veggies like jalapenos and onions and peppers in a little brown paper bag and tape it, you can seal multiple foods in the sealer bags.

    35. Ugly says:

      I just call it reality.

      It is real that an economic collapse is not too far away.

      It is also common-sense to want to prepare for a depression by having a food storage, by gardening, by learning other work trades, and by not having all your eggs in one basket.

      If our Govt does not want us to prepare, then that means that they may not want us around either.

    36. Ahab says:

      Thinking like a “Doomer” is often just a courageous acknowledgement of reality.

      The biggest ongoing story, of the greatest import for ALL life on Earth, gets little attention from the centralized and controlled western press as it presents it standard fare of infotainment alternating with dire warnings about “terrists.” This is all designed to maximize both fear and stupidity in its TARGET audience, while preventing it from acquiring the information necessary to rationally and proactively deal with the onslaught of peril approaching us all.

      I’m talking about Fukushima: its reactors continue to spew deadly poison into the Pacific (300 tons of contaminated water per day, since March 2011), and the great “Black Current” that goes up the east coast of the Japanese home islands – once the boon to all life in the Pacific – picks it up and disperses it in a great circle of death that has been and still is contaminating the coasts of North Amerika, western South Amerika, Australia and the archipelagos of the western Pacific rim.

      The regime has dealt with this monstrous, ultimately life-ending disaster by bureaucratically raising the maximum allowable level of radiological contaminants in consumables tenfold, and it has shut down the stations on the west coast that previously measured radiological contamination of the atmosphere. There! According to these satanic and dysfunctional swine, and those who depend upon information from said swine, that makes EVERYTHING OK!

      Alaska, British Columbia, Washington State, Oregon and California are washed in the deadly winds and rain that the oceanic weather engine stirs up and drives over their territory, as normal meteorological processes go on majestically heedless of questions of nuclear contamination. The average person needs to avoid ALL consumables from these contaminated areas, including Alaska Salmon, apples, pears and cherries from Washington State, ALL canned tuna from the Pacific, wines, nuts and other nutritionally “dense” foods from California, vegetables fruits and berries from California, as well as Chilean wines, fish from Peru and Chile, and any Australian foodstuffs (their wines are not bad and are especially popular in Amerika). Needless to say, NO sushi rolls with imported Japanese Nori should be on your menu. These measures will buy you time only, as the whole Northern Hemisphere is slowly getting “hot” (radiation levels were UP in Finnish snow last spring, and Toronto also had “hot” winter snow) and one day we will ALL have to face the music.

      In the meantime, I see hordes of SHEEP at the supermarket, unconcernedly filling their shopping carts with nuke-contaminated produce (proudly labeled as having come from California), because nobody “told them” there was anything wrong with it. As a child, I once owned a very good children’s book on WEATHER. A common sense application of the principles found therein would be enough to warn the sheeple about what they were ingesting (i.e., produce watered with RAIN generated by clouds formed over a nuclear-contaminated OCEAN), but the type of thought found even in a kiddie book of the 1960′s, as well as a basic grasp of the principle of “cause and effect” and basic reasoning skills, seem too far beyond the intellectual capabilities of the average run of sheep.

      For its part, the regime KNOWS that this is serious, and Obongo, his cabinet and Congress have been taking the anti-radiation drug “Ex-Rad” since shortly after the reactors blew. This CONTROLLED drug is off-limits to the general public, BTW. I’m also told by a friend who works for the VA medical system that it is officially listed in their inventory, but that no “mere mortals” have access to it.

      For now, the fish of the Pacific are “crying tears of blood,” and soon it may be us:

      http://enenews.com/biologist-pacific-herring-in-canada-bleeding-from-eyeballs-faces-fins-tails-ive-never-seen-fish-looking-this-bad-all-100-caught-were-bleeding-hemorrhaging-first-noticed-in-summer-of-201

      I’ll give you another name for a so-called Doomer: “One who can think.”

      • Merree says:

        Ahab,
        It already goes far beyond this. I was talking with an engineer. He said that when a team was going to build a chamber to measure radiation, they had to find metal forged before WWII. Atom bomb testing has spread radioactive contamination world wide to levels that never occurred before. It even permeates forged metals. The world wide background radiation is a major product of the atomic age.

        I suppose the only good thing about it is that when we kill ourselves off, the remaining species will have a high mutation rate and possibly evolve to something with some real intelligence.

      • Emily says:

        @ Ahab – Jesus. John B. Wells on Coast to Coast has also been putting the word out and alerting his listeners to
        Fukishima and its deadly spewing of contamination into the ocean.

    37. SoapDish says:

      No matter what, it will be us, against those that want complete utter control.
      Usurper and thief actually thinks the economy is not as good as he thought, so he called his czars together. Remember, when they start putting it out there, then you know something is in the wind?
      Time is all we have now, till things take a complete turn for the worst. The writing had been on the wall for sometime, it’s just starting to catch up. Reality is going to be a bitch for a huge majority of those that fail to see it!

      B Aware, B Awake, B Alive

    38. PenCRNA says:

      The only reason the debt has not expanded, is that the fed gov is not funding pension plans. these are the extreme measures the treasury said they would take when they neared the debt limit. sooner or later the debt limit has to be raised, they gotta stop printing money, and interest rates are going up. It may not be a big blowout when the economy collapses, but we are a house of cards already. I think it won’t take much to accelerate the decline of the economy.

    39. Satori says:

      humans are very much herd animals

      one runs toward the cliff
      and the majority follow

      this lemming is gonna be sittin’ on a rock
      watching the others go over the side
      and hit the rocks below
      and I’ll be saying “What the f_ck????”

    40. buzzfix says:

      It will be a economic collapse like the great depression but throw in 1917 St.Petersburg on a global scale along with the L.A. Riots in the midst of it all complete chaos, anarchy and, a free for all while the hero puppet of the corporate ruling elite emerges to bring sense and security to the madness. Every bad thing imaginable will be going on criminal wise and in natural disaster words as well. Damn! Too bad we won’t really get to live in the utopian realm of the futuristic Jetsons family after all. It’ll just be the same old shit except a War zone every where you turn. That’s what lies ahead initially. History repeats itself but throws in a couple of new twists as well. So i guess its the dark ages again but this time its firearms, Kevlar and, motorized horses. Its a interesting perspective.

    41. Y'all Beware! says:

      Looks like the right time to shop for a new Truck!

      I stopped by the Ford Dealership yesterday, for a look at the new F- 150 pickup. Just for fun, I took it out for a test drive. I wanted to sense that new “feel” before they become extinct.

      The salesman (a black man wearing an Obama “change” lapel pin) sat in the passenger seat describing the truck and all its “wonderful” options. The seats were of particular interest. He explained that the seats directed warm air to your butt in the winter and directed cool air to your butt in the summer heat. Feeling like messing with him, I mentioned that this must be a Republican truck.

      Looking a bit angry, he asked why I thought it was a Republican truck. I explained that if it were an Obama truck, the seats would blow smoke up your ass year-round.

      Y’all Beware! I had to walk back to the dealership. Damn guy had no sense of humor.

      • buzzfix says:

        That’s funny. Should have asked why he isn’t selling smart cars? Seems a little more his style.

      • I’m afraid I don’t want any new vehicle that someone else can control remotely, by the onboard computer. No thanks. If I want to STOP, I want to STOP. If I want to GO, I want to GO, without debating with, or worrying about a third party.

        No satellite drivers for me. (Next gen backseat drivers)

    42. RickInOregon says:

      Need some information, which fish mox and what dosage for the medicine cabinet? a trusted source would be nice too.

    43. Been called a lot of things….crazys good!….keeps me from going insane!… :)…Ive said it before,I am NOT a prepper…with me its been a lifestyle choice, being as independent as possible…not having to ask anyone for anything…making do or doing without,just a part of my personality…disorder,that is ;)…just and ole hippy hillbilly and right happy to be so…don’t owe anyone anything and enjoying life…liberty and pursuing good times down on the farm…the crazy farm that is :)

    44. steve says:

      I’ve been developing and acquiring survivalist prep’s since the late 80′s,It was kooksville back then, but not
      any more, every one seems to know someone who is making more elaborate prep’s. I travel all over the world doing service work for some of the wealthiest people on the planet and I can tell you ,they are making preps too,
      security, power, food and more. And I’ve met more Doctors who are prepping than any other group.
      The wage slave class, or entitlement class, or
      victim class, or party animal class will laugh
      at survivalist/preppers and make no preps.
      So when “party animal” comes over to borrow TP after SHTF, Ill give him a bucket of smooth round stones
      which make a good substitute TP, and the resulting
      calluses on his bung hole will help him remember to
      make preps next time.

      nothing like tough love and a sore bum to teach prepping!

    45. Evoval says:

      Being called a conspiracy theorist is a compliment from a ignorant fool.

    46. Satori says:

      “…Ive said it before,I am NOT a prepper…with me its been a lifestyle choice, being as independent as possible”

      WELL said !

    47. Iseewhatyou'redoing says:

      Anything you do should only be done in a healthy moderate amount.

      This includes prepping. If prepping takes up most of your life…that is a problem.

      If it starts to hurt your financial situation, that is a problem.

      Everyone needs a healthy balance of different things to keep them busy.

    48. aljamo says:

      Most people just do not want to hear the truth about the reality facing America. It is too troubling for them to even think about. Even the official lies of the events of 9-11 send them running scared. This is the lie that dug the deep hole this country now faces. All of the attacks on our freedoms and the constitution are rampant since this event. The free thinking and truth seeking Americans are now labled terrorists in this fake war on terrorism. Veterans who served now realize their sacrifice means nothing to this criminal government.

    49. Satori says:

      off topic

      but well worth your time

      and you damn sure dont want to read a book called

      Dr Mary’s Monkey

      you think the government lies about inflation and unemployment ?

      ya ain’t seen nothing

    50. Ugly says:

      I think this is what Morrison meant when he wrote,

      this is ‘The End’

      Just remember,

      A quart of barley for a ‘days’ wage,
      but save the oil and wine [for the rich bastards]….

      the emphasis [for the rich bastards] was Ugly’s….

      That is in Revelation.

    51. Ralphieboy says:

      Thirty years ago founded a tiny little business and was told by just about everyone what a failure it would be, what a sucker and foolish dreamer I was. Today that business is global. It is not that I am so smart. Never went to business school. In fact, I never was a good student. But I knew that to grow my business, I had to seek out people who had been before me who made it happen. I also had to learn how to handle money, and it would have to be money I made myself, because the bankers and venture capitalists thought I was an idiot and never gave me a penny. (Actually a good thing).

      But what really helped was the process of learning how economies really work, how banks and governments work, and how all has been purposefully engineered to benefit the true powers. The good news is that my learning was not prejudiced by business academia and by Mainstream business press. My mind was essentially a tabla rasa, not contaminated by a century of progressive propaganda. Another advantage was my country boy background, being raised by a lot of common sense folks.

      Bottom line is this. It does not take a genius to understand that the world financial system is, in fact, a massive Ponzi scheme with a very finite lifespan. At 63 plus years, time has given me just a little perspective in understanding just how enormous this Gordian knot had grown, and that the unwind, if it can be called that, will be like a giant, tightly wound spring, that explosively breaks, sending devastating shrapnel everywhere. Nobody will remain completely unscathed.

      But more amazing to me is the pervasive denial about the problem.,From the sheep? Well, kind of understandable. But what about the educated ones who should know better? Sick, sick, and very dangerous denial, kind of like the addict or alcoholic killing themselves with the addiction while drowning themselves in denial.

      This denial truly blows me away. I have done my duty. I have spoken with loved ones and old friends. No doubt they think me the kook. No problem. Pretty quiet anymore about my preps. But interestingly, the people I run into on my travels who are serious preppers are, guess what? They are self- made business guys, realistic guys who know the score, and by nature are survivors in the dog eat dog world of business. I call it business street smarts. Actually it is just plain old common sense.

      So let ”em all think we are just a bunch of flyover country rubes, stupid hayseeds without a lick of sense, you know, clinging to God and our guns, Hey, my competitors always used to think I was an ineffectual moron, and I wound up kicking their collective asses. It is actually a good thing to be mocked and underestimated. I’ll be thinking about their arrogant abuse when one evening I am watching them with my night vision goggles as they stumble around in the dark looking for a dead rat or two for dinner.

    52. A Christian Man says:

      Farsided Full-Halo CME Detected
      A large scale, full-halo Coronal Mass Ejection was captured by Lasco C2 and STEREO Behind COR2 late Monday evening. At first glance it would appear that it is directly headed towards out planet, however don’t be fooled. The event was farsided and heading the opposite direction away from our planet. Had it been directed our way, severe geomagnetic storming would have been probable.

      WE GOT MISSED AGAIN! WHEW….
      C/O space weather.com

    53. NMBC says:

      It sounds like the 4th Reich, and it’s just a continuation of the 3rd Reich.
      The 3rd Reich was hijacked and run by the commie Heinrich HIMMLER, “National Socialist German Workers Party, (NSDAP).”

      Most of the articles were written by boogeymen to mislead and scare (silence) people. They’re hoping there will be less resistant and the masses will go along. The boogeyman does not tell you their REAL agenda.

      The surveillance of people is not only in America, but done around the western world and the middle east, and has been done for over a century. :( Now, it’s getting worse since they’re using American high tech, and it’s the goal of the NEW WORLD ORDER TO REPLACE THE OLD WORLD ORDER as we’ve heard politicians said.

      The new world order is the one world government.

      If you review the REAL history (not history as it’s done by TV or the main ex-stream media outlets or propagandists), you will see the REICH is actually the “PURGE.” :(

      The NWO groups and their people isolate themselves from the real world and purge everyone else including the elderly, disabled and children. We’ve seen soldiers who have been sent to wars and never returned.

      Since they control the media, websites and the internet, they’ve created false stories and made false accusations to fit their agenda. Their agenda are PRE-PLANNED. In the last 300 years, we’ve seen they’re very successful with all their plans. And the NWO’s pretty much on schedule with their plans.

      • NMBC says:

        “But by the time most Americans were made aware of it, it was already after the fact. They were, as always, a day late and a trillion dollars short.” — Mac

        Because their HEADLIES told us everything was fine.

        FYI:

        … 1st REICH – in France
        … 2nd REICH – in Russia, Ukrain, etc.
        … 3rd REICH – in German, Lithuania, Armenia, etc.
        … 4th REICH – in USA, UK, etc.

        :(

        Safety, Justice, and happiness for :) ll

    54. Watchman says:

      “In a few days or weeks, everyone who has not prepared for disaster will panic. I would like for you to realize that you may have already waited too long to properly prepare, and if you wait much longer, it will be too late to buy gold, guns, and groceries. … The name of the game will be survival, only survival. Forget the job since it will be gone. Your Social Security or pension check? Don’t count on it. Protection from local authorities? Probably not. You will be on your own.”
      Don Boys, former member of the Indiana House of Rep.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

      • JayJay says:

        Hmm, is it the status of this congressman that allows him to speak candidly now.

        Many say, hey, storing one week or month is better than nothing.
        Is it?? Is it really??
        Think about it.

        A mother with 6 children in a third world country with limited rations had the choice of which 3 children to feed.
        She fed 3 while the other 3 watched.
        May I NEVER live to see that in this country.
        Lord, come quickly.

    55. Watchman says:

      Chinese military writings are replete with references to the dependency of United States military forces and civilian infrastructure upon sophisticated electronic systems, and to the potential vulnerability of those systems. For example, consider this quote from an official newspaper of the PLA: Some people might think that things similar to the Pearl Harbor Incident are unlikely to take place during the information age. Yet it could be regarded as the Pearl Harbor Incident of the 21st century if a surprise attack is conducted against the enemy s crucial information systems of command, control, and communications by such means as… electromagnetic pulse weapons…. Even a superpower like the United States, which possesses nuclear missiles and powerful armed forces, cannot guarantee its immunity… In their own words, a highly computerized open society like the United States is extremely vulnerable to electronic attacks from all sides. This is because the U. S. economy, from banks to telephone systems and from power plants to iron and steel works, relies entirely on computer networks…. When a country grows increasingly powerful economically and technologically… it will become increasingly dependent on modern information systems…. The United States is more vulnerable to attacks than any other country in the world. (Zhang Shouqi and Sun Xuegui, Jiefangjun Bao 14 May 1996)

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    56. ZombieDawg says:

      Meh.. what’s new…
      Look – economic collapse or not, you’re probably still toasted anyway.
      People are STILL living on their own version of Fantasy Island with reality about to hit.
      The world faces problems far beyond mere economics and we’re all going to pay the piper for our “crimes against common sense” on this world.

      Case in point:

      http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=59443

      I’m tipping a massive crash in stocks & emerging economies within 1 month of now. This ain’t gonna be pretty…

    57. Be informed says:

      Many say that WW3 is a paranoid delusion of all doomers. Yet already two world wars have been fought and many smaller regional wars. There is now nearing the top military per capita spend on weapons anytime in history. ONLY WW2 between about 1942-45 was higher per capita. There are three countries that can blow up the world now rather than 2. Resource competition has never been higher as there has never been as many people on the planet as now. The accuracy of missiles has never been this pinpointed. Russia and China are boxed in on many fronts. There are too many more to bog down anyone with.

      Look at human nature to why WW3 is inevitable. How often does someone that is really pushed into a corner backdown and not fight back. When you very life or safety is in extreme question, would do you do? Some people will ball up like a ball python and hope the predator doesn’t start eating them coil after coil. Others will fight back to save themselves with whatever they have available. Which weapon do you fight back with against an attacker? A ball bat or a firearm. A single shot gun or a firearm with a fully loaded magazine. You use the best means of stopping your enemy. At least someone with common sense does.

      Okay, from a personal point of view you defend yourself. What about from a country’s point of view? Does a country allow their enemy to surround them and literally take their borders without even a shot being fired. A weak country without means of hitting their enemy. What about a country that can hit their enemy and annihilate them? Does that country roll over or do they use the best possible weapon to stop their enemy? Does a country recognize their previous buffer zones now occupied by enemy forces as a threat? Does a country allow more territory to be taken out and further shrink their size? Does that country stop this before it is too late?

      Naturally I am talking about Russia, and to some degree China. I have shown this before the vast area lost to Russia from broken NATO promises to not expand east. The comparison if the U.S. lost this much land would be about 1/4 the U.S., most of the western states. This land of Russia is mostly manned by NATO forces with strike capability into Russia. If this had been the U.S. there would have been a mass missile launch before it ever happen because the Monroe Doctrine demands this.

      Russia has put much money and effort into new zigzag type ICBM’s to counter the anti-ICBM missile batteries that are basically meant to shoot down as many Russian missiles as possible. You don’t put the anti-ICBM sites in Poland to shoot down Iranian ICBM’s. You also don’t place the Alaskan anti-ICBM sites where they are to shoot down North Korean ICBM’s. You do for Russian and Chinese missiles. People don’t use a three dimensional globe to see this, they use a flat map and cannot see why these sites are where they are. ICBM’s and nuclear weapons are the cornerstone of what can stop the U.S. Conventional weapons CANNOT.

      The U.S. has all the natural gas it can use for many decades. Oil is another issue. Oil tars and sands produce a very little energy net gain and should not be calculated into how much REAL recoverable oil there is in North America. Sweet and even “dirty” crude oil is something that is still in tremendous demand for everything from energy to plastics. The U.S. still feels that it can obtain the Caspian oil resources through Iran and other ex-Soviet states. Russia will not allow this as that would be the final encirclement of western and southern Russia. Georgia 5 years ago was an example of what Russia will do.

      Is the U.S. going to stop messing around in Russia’s backyard? BO, and I mean BO, is almost ready to impose a non fly zone in Syria and already has crack team military in Jordan and Israel. There is this whacked out conception that Syria can be Libya and that Russia and China will just back down. That is why Russia has about 70 warships and nuclear attack submarines just off the coast of Syria along with 10 MIG fighter squadrons ready for action. That is why the long range nuclear bommber planes are now practicing hitting the west coast of the U.S. and Europe on a regular basis. That is why Russia is arming Syrian and then Hezbollah with surface to surface cruise missiles with an accuracy of about 25 feet. This is why there are almost 200,000 Russian troops ready for war.

      People can talk about doomers all they want, but the harsh reality is that WW3 is now more likely than even during the Cuban Missile Crisis because of Russia, and now China. The fact is China could start all this with Japan over those islands that are disputed with Japan that are oil and natural gas rich. Remember it is all about human nature, and ME FIRST and the fear factor that gets battles going on the personal level all the way up to the global level.

      I have rambled enough tonight about common sense doomers being in more touch with reality in regards to a third world war, than most people want or care to understand.

      • buzzfix says:

        The stage is being set for a new entry into a history book that won’t get to ever be read by anyone.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Be Informed – Thank you for bringing me and many others like me up to speed. You will never, ever hear the above from Fox, MSM, CNN, any of them. I am just waiting for the shoe to drop, and living my life to the best of my ability. Prepping quietly but surely.

      • Emily says:

        @Be Informed – Thank you for keeping me and many others up to speed. You will never, ever, hear your information from Fox, MSM, Cnn. I am just waiting for the shoe to drop, and living my life to the best of my ability. Prepping quietly and surely, always.

        • Be informed says:

          @ Emily. The masses have become exactly like the MSM, fixated on what is politically correct and what they are told to think. Anyone that free thinks is an extremist, an outcast, a maverick. I like being a maverick, as most of the people here do also. :)

    58. going back to the planets and stuff if u have a smartphone download an app called sunspots it shows the soho and other sats in the soho sat there is a star or something moving closer to the sun been watching it since last thurs and the flares are getting bigget its amazing

    59. Ugly says:

      The only thing I know is,
      I know nothing.

      The dumber I am,
      The happier I am.

      The dumbest people are also
      the happiest.

      I choose to be happy,
      but I also don’t want to be dumb.

      Prepare.

    60. Be informed says:

      I saw this on another blog, CLASSIC: “The best way to enslave someone is to make them think that they are free”. :(

    61. SmokinOkie says:

      People don’t fight for freedom when they have nothing left to lose. They fight when they realize they have something too precious to lose.

      -okus maximus, 238 BC

      • Be informed says:

        @ SmokinOkie. This song is for that all too true quote. Too many people are stuck in that nothing left to lose mentality. Try listening to song while reading the lyrics, it makes it that much more intense.

        Synchronicity II lyrics, Police

        Another suburban family morning
        Grandmother screaming at the wall.

        We have shout about the din of our Rice Crispies.
        We can’t hear anything at all.
        Mother chants her litany of boredom and frustration,
        But we all know her suicides are fake.

        Daddy only stares into the distance.
        There’s only so much he can take.
        Many miles away something crawls from the slime
        At the bottom of a dark Scottish lake.

        Another industrial ugly morning,
        The factory belches filth into the sky.
        He walks unhindered through the picket lines today,
        He doesn’t think to wonder why.
        The sectararies pout and preen like cheap tarts in a red light street,
        But all he ever thinks to do is watch.
        And every single meeting with his so-called superior
        Is a humiliating kick in the crotch.
        Many miles away something crawls to the surface
        Of a dark Scottish loch

        Another working day has ended.
        Only the rush hour hell to face.
        Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes.
        Contestants in a suicidal race.
        Daddy grips the wheel and stares alone into the distance,
        He knows that something somewhere has to break.
        He sees the family home now looming in the headlights,
        the pain upstaris that make his eyeballs ache.
        Many miles away there’s a shadow on the door
        Of a cottage on the shore
        Of a dark Scottish lake………………………………..many miles away
        many miles awaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy, many miles away

        How times have changed so little since this song came out over 30 years ago.

      • Wasn’t he the first in a long line of used car…err…used chariot salesmen?

        • SmokinOkie says:

          JRS- okus maximus (279-201BC) was, according to a nearly-sober uncle of mine, one of our ancestors. He was an escaped slave of Alex the Mediocre (grandfather of Alexander the Great) who made his way to Rome and became a successful chariot salesman, eventually working his way up to vice-president of sales for Calimus Worthingtonicus.
          It was okus who came up with the idea of putting a mastodon on a chain and calling it ‘his dog spot.’ Calimus used the ploy very effectively in his street corner advertising for the chariot dealership. Okus was also said to have invented the first air-conditioned chariot, though historians now dispute the claim.
          He was named chariot salesman of the year in 244 BC. Apparently, the honor went to his head because he quit his position at the dealership, and opened his own lot, calling it ChariotMax. He promptly went broke.
          Later, okus became a respected philosopher and antique rug buyer for an Ottoman Turk who ran a tax evasion scheme in Constantinople. His record is a bit spotty after that, but okus turned up again in Rome, just before the Potato Famine. He claimed to have invented lentil soup as a substitute for the scarce potatoes.
          His last years were sad ones. He lived out the remainder of his life, begging on street corners near the Parthenon, and claimed to have invented the cardboard sign. He was killed in 201 BC by an angry mob trying to stampede their way into a concert given by, ironically, distant ancestors of The Who.
          Okus was buried in an unmarked grave which historians claim is located under the southeast corner of a parking lot of the Italian branch of Bank Of America. Certainly an ignominious end for such a great man….

    62. Mountain Trekker says:

      JayJay and Archivist out of 256 comments, it looks like we’re about the only ones that managed to use the word Anthrax. I’m afraid this word of the week thing ain’t gonna make it. Trekker Out.

      • Anonymous says:

        Bacillus anthracis in a pressure cooker is tasty.

      • Satori says:

        I’m cooking up some anthrax in my pressure cooker
        does that count ???

        Terror Alert color for today is chartreuse

        thats chartreuse !!!

        stock up on duct tape and plastic accordingly !!!

      • Archivist says:

        Here’s 250 more:

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      • JayJay says:

        No worries mountain trekker.

        It’ll catch on. Keep posting it.

        Don’t forget–those posters are using the other million and six words that trigger a ‘look see’.

        Those last six (added lately) are port-a-potty, heavy-duty, bulk, hike, cayenne, and grunt.
        Go figure!!!

    63. Watchman says:

      “To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize.”
      Voltaire

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    64. old guy says:

      My opinion There is at present a lot more negative then positive things going on. There Is government fiscal irresponsibility The Cyprus bank haircuts where something really wrong. the climate is unstable. clatyclismic events can occur anywhere & anytime. Some good things. It was a late spring as a result my corn was planted very late. yet we had 11 days of gentle rain the last two weeks. the rain combined with ideal weather just as the corn was tasselling means im gonna have a bumper crop of field corn.However the tomatoes have suffered . Any way im not a denialist Im aware that the USA is in decline. Im aware there isn’t a viable ballot box or political solution. DOOM & GLOOM? I simply prep and grow as much of out food as I can. I don’t even try to make others aware. Im content to Let them live in their make believe fantasy world built on debt and political promises. Im old and hopefully Ill be gone before the coffers run dry and my Ponzi scheme social security check is no more. However Im self reliant and have know how so I wont starve. The hard fact is life is full of surprises. Not one of us knows for certain shure what will eventually come to pass. We can only look at the facts and make a reasonable assessment. Its a guesstimate at best. Better to prep and not need it than to need preps and have none. Grandmaw used to say He who will not when he may. When he will shall have nay.

    65. I don’t really talk to other people who I know don’t believe, or see in whats going on.

      those that do hear what I have to say and don’t agree with it and voice that they don’t, I just ignore.

      to keep having to explain or prove my view

      aint nobody got time for that.. literally

    66. aljamo says:

      If you ever watch C-Span, all the bigwig talking heads, congress members and business snobs run their crapload of lies to the public. It is very revealing that callers to the show are asking questions about the building 7 implosion, The hosts are highly agitated and try to dismiss these questions as old news from conspiracy nuts. The anger at the callers is very telling. If its news and on tv, they are lying.

    67. Satori says:

      BP
      the gift that keeps on giving

      er’ make that killing

      You Won’t BELIEVE the Upshot of BP’s Gulf Oil Spill

      http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-21/you-won’t-believe-upshot-bp’s-gulf-oil-spill

    68. Satori says:

      WWIII: Great commodities war to end all wars

      All major nations are quietly preparing for Resource Wars

      http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wwiii-great-commodities-war-to-end-all-wars-2012-08-07

      ” a look ahead to a world that he now hopes will not “end in war, widespread starvation, or a massive environmental catastrophe.” Although they are “the probable results of persisting in the race for what’s left.” Unfortunately, hope can’t trump reality in today’s race for what little is left.”

      “Yes, the planet is at a historic turning point. You must plan for black swans, earth-shaking wake-up calls — a perfect storm of global wars, mass starvation, pandemics, environmental catastrophes.”

    69. Satori says:

      “they” want to invade Syria

      have yet again trotted out the WMD bull shit

      any takers ????

      Hundreds Dead In Syrian Chemical Attack As Even Impartial Experts Allege “False Flag”

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-21/hundreds-dead-syrian-chemical-attack-even-impartial-experts-allege-false-flag

    70. Be aware of what crawls out of the sewer

      Troy Industries announced in recent days the hiring of Jody Weis, the former anti-gun head of Chicago PD, as an instructor with their training division, “Troy Asymmetric”.

      Imagine that: A high-profile firearms and firearms accessory manufacturer hiring a raving anti-gun political hack and touting it to the world! Even worse, hiring a coward at that.

      Why do we say Jody Weis is a coward?

      Because he ran from the sound of gunfire, post haste, when shots erupted as he was winding down a press conference in Chicago during his stint as police superintendent. It was so blatant that the officers at Chicago PD gave him a new nickname: J-Fled.

      Yes, he abruptly terminated a news conference, saying he’s “gotta run” before abruptly leaving with his bodyguard. To everyone’s shock and surprise, he didn’t run to the sound of gunfire that resulted in another homicide – 45 seconds away – but he instead fled to police headquarters. With his bodyguard.

      • braveheart says:

        Good morning, VRF. Very interesting post. Very curious that a gun manufacturer would hire one of the enemy. would be interesting to know what the hell is going through their minds. braveheart

    71. Satori says:

      gamble and armageddon

      not two words that you want to see used together

      Japanese gamble Armageddon in Last Ditch Fukushima Effort

      http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q32013/japanese-gamble-armageddon-in-last-ditch-fukushima-effort/

      this current situation is SERIOUS
      and getting WORSE by the hour

      good luck to those of you on the west coast

    72. Satori says:

      the economic “recovery”

      read it
      and weep for our once great country

      33 Shocking Facts Which Show How Badly The Economy Has Tanked Since Obama Became President

      http://www.blacklistednews.com/33_Shocking_Facts_Which_Show_How_Badly_The_Economy_Has_Tanked_Since_Obama_Became_President/28283/0/38/38/Y/M.html

    73. “Thrill killing” my ass!

      http://news.yahoo.com/3-teens-charged-australian-player-slain-201203273.html

      just another racially charged murder, not reported as such because is not along the agenda lines

    74. Be informed says:

      FALSE FLAG WORLD WAR 3 potential here. Why would Syria use chemical weapons when they are winning the civil war over there? The rebels or others that WANT an excuse for the U.S. and other U.S. allies to attack Syria would.

      http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/08/21/syrian-opposition-claims-poisonous-gas-attack/?test=latestnews

      FALSE FLAG, too obvious, way too obvious.

    75. I think you are crazy to not at least be somewhat prepared. Not every scenario is a “doom and gloom” one. It could be a tornado coming through, a hurricane, or other weather event.

      • Shootit says:

        We started to prepare because of power outages caused by tornado’s, blizzards, and ice storms. 1st prep was a Honda generator. 2nd was fuel for said generator. 3rd was a disconnect at the power pole. You get the idea…. All in response to a need highlighted by a power outage.

        You will not get the full effect of your needs on a 2-3 hour power outage. Try going off grid for 3-5 days. It will highlight your weaknesses. Than you will have a list of things that are needed. Once you have completed the list try going off grid 5-7 days. You will have a new list.

        Cheers!

        • old guy says:

          We had a 5 day power outage because of a ice storm. Never missed a beat. Fired up the generator. we heat with wood. the only draw back was the generator cost a lot for fuel. I seen first hand how jealous folks can be. My relatives & neighbors seen my lights on. They asked why do you have electric when we don’t. I replied Ive got a big generator. They stated I don’t hear it running. I stated I put it in the barn because of the noise and I want to keep it dry. They where mad and resentful. but that didn’t keep them from coming by and taking showers and using my electric. I should have darkened & blackouted everything. I didn’t like sharing my stuff with ingrates. Ive since downsized & moved away. I don’t know my neighbors and keep a locked gate down at the road. Tall fence with plenty of no trespassing signs & a unlisted phone number. Everything out of sight from the public road.

        • JayJay says:

          Both my neighbors(word used lightly)in the last year have had their propane tanks removed from their yards.
          They will be in a world of hurt if there is a lengthy power outage.

        • Semper Fi, y'all says:

          I was 12 years old before we had electricity. 5 months of the year I ran my trap line before school. I hunted small game and game birds with my .22 and single shot 16 gauge. That was at the tail end of the Depression and before the war.

          Best times ever.

          What’s electricity? I read by coal oil lamp and learned that Lincoln, Wilson, FDR and about all of them since were, are commies, like most people on earth including commiepussa.

          Semper Fi

    76. Norse Prepper says:

      Hey BI. 6.1 in Mexico. Thoughts?

      God Bless,
      NP

      • Be informed says:

        @ Norse Prepper. You can see on the previous article, comment #2098195 two days ago I gave southern Mexico as a target zone. This however is not a major earthquake of 6.5 or larger. It shows that the precursor earthquakes are following the pattern given in this comment. 6.1 is too small though to be classified as near a major one. Watch this list for the next two weeks. I will try to update any further plate boundary quakes to more danger zones.

        I think we all better watch Syria. False flags are flying everywhere. I linked a fox news story that says that Syria “supposingly” used chemical weapons on rebels south of Damassacus. RIGHT, Syria is winning the war. Why would they use chemical weapons now? This world is in serious trouble. BO and others are hoisting the false flags right now. Hope you are doing well today.

    77. Satori says:

      quick update

      MERS Case Count H7N9 Case Count

      96 Cases / 47 Deaths 135 Cases / 43 Deaths

      both MERS and H7N9 pretty quiet for now

    78. With my luck I will be taking a nap when the extinction level event happens and miss the whole damn thing

    79. Satori says:

      well the show trial is finally over

      Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

      too bad

      it’s Obama and his traitorous ilk
      that should be doing time

      just one more black mark for America

    80. JC75 says:

      “Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized. In the first it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident.” —- Arthur Schopenhauer

      “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” —- George Orwell

      Once you do the research you’ll realize that NOTHING we’ve been told about how the world works is true. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come across something & just shook my head, telling myself no this can’t be. You must open your mind to all possibilities, challenge your beliefs, be naturally skeptical. Do not BELIEVE something because you were told. You must KNOW.

      I will not cower in fear. The PTB have used fear since ancient times to control humankind.

    81. OffTheGrid says:

      Sticks and stones. I”M A DOOMER! I’m also a Bitter Clinger in all ways!
      I only started posting after years of reading because my dander is way up. God gave me an alarm. It’s intuition and we women have it in spades!! I’m a 49 year young chick that made my course to Live Free or Die!
      Most people ignore it if it dosen’t fit the narrative. Once you stop caring and do what our framers asked of us, you’re fine. If my extended family thinks I have 3 heads, tough. Resolve is everything. I’ll defend those I love with every fiber….for liberty. Push me with your name calling and your just building another Soros. What they think tears me down, makes me a greater force. When the herd get’s thinned and if I don’t make it, I’ll tell Peter I did all I could. If I survive?….Don’t even try to tread!

      This was a great essay.

     
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