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    What Will You Do If They Make It Mandatory For All Americans To Take An Ebola Vaccine?

    Michael Snyder
    August 5th, 2014
    The American Dream
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    This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.

    ebola-vaccineAs the Ebola death toll rises and as images of bodies being abandoned in the streets of Liberiaare broadcast around the globe, there has been a growing outcry for the scientific community to “do something” about this deadly virus.  And as luck would have it, there is an “experimental Ebola vaccine” that is ready to be tested on humans next month.  If Ebola starts to spread outside of Africa, and especially if it starts spreading inside the United States, people will be absolutely clamoring to get this vaccine.  But will it be safe?  And there will certainly be millions of people that do not want to take this vaccine under any circumstances.  If the outbreak gets bad enough, will it be made mandatory at some point?  If they do make it mandatory for all Americans to take an Ebola vaccine, what will you do?

    Up until now, there has never been a vaccine for Ebola.  But as Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Instutites of Health recently told “CBS This Morning”, that could soon change

    They say that if this vaccine is approved, it could potentially be available to the public at some point in 2015.

    If a full-blown Ebola epidemic is raging by that time, the demand will be overwhelming.  But many people will not be satisfied to just get the vaccine themselves.  They will want everyone living around them in their communities to get vaccinated as well for the sake of “herd immunity”.  They will argue that those that refuse to get the Ebola vaccine are endangering public health.

    So could politicians make the Ebola vaccine mandatory for all Americans at some point?  According to a paper by Jared P. Cole and Kathleen S. Swendiman, many states already have laws that allow for mandatory vaccinations “during a public health emergency”…

    Many states also have laws providing for mandatory vaccinations during a public health emergency or outbreak of a communicable disease. Generally, the power to order such actions rests with the governor of the state or with a state health officer. For example, a governor may have the power to supplement the state’s existing compulsory vaccination programs and institute additional programs in the event of a civil defense emergency period. Or, a state health officer may, upon declaration of a public health emergency, order an individual to be vaccinated “for communicable diseases that have significant morbidity or mortality and present a severe danger to public health.” In addition, exemptions may be provided for medical reasons or where objections are based on religion or conscience. However, if a person refuses to be vaccinated, he or she may be quarantined during the public health emergency giving rise to the vaccination order. State statutes may also provide additional authority to permit specified groups of persons to be trained to administer vaccines during an emergency in the event insufficient health care professionals are available for vaccine administration.

    But what about on the national level?

    Well, it has never been done before, but that doesn’t mean that the Obama administration would not try.  Barack Obama seems to believe that the power of the presidency is virtually endless, and we have already seen him sign a series of very frightening executive orders.  In fact, as I noted the other day, Obama just signed an executive order that gives him the power to apprehend and detain Americans that show symptoms of “diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.”

    It wouldn’t seem like it would be too much more of a stretch for him to sign an executive order requiring the vaccination of all Americans in the event of a major Ebola outbreak.  And if we were in the middle of a full-blown pandemic where millions of Americans were dying, a large chunk of the population would definitely support such a move.

    In addition to the Ebola vaccine that is being developed, it also conveniently turns out that there are several experimental Ebola drugs in the works as well.  For example, it is being reported that the two American health workers that contracted Ebola while working in Africa have had their lives saved by one of these experimental drugs…

    Two American missionary workers infected with the deadly Ebola virus were given an experimental drug that seems to have saved their lives. Dr. Kent Brantly was given the medication, ZMapp, shortly after telling his doctors he thought he would die, according to a source familiar with his case. Within an hour, doctors say his symptoms — labored breathing and a widespread rash — dramatically improved. Nancy Writebol, another missionary working with Samaritan’s Purse, received two doses of the medication and has also shown significant improvement, sources say.

    Needless to say, the company that makes this experimental drug (Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc.) stands to make a giant pile of money by the time this crisis is over.

    And another drug company called Tekmira Pharmaceuticals is also getting a lot of attention right now.  According to CNN, shares of Tekmira Pharmaceuticals soared 40 percent last week alone…

    There is no cure for Ebola. But don’t tell that to traders. Shares of a Vancouver-based company working on a drug to treat the infectious disease surged nearly 40% last week. Tekmira Pharmaceuticals popped on much higher trading volume than usual because investors are hopeful that health agencies in the United States might approve its drug, known as TKM-Ebola.

    If Ebola does indeed turn out to be a horrific global health crisis, there will be opportunities for certain companies to make billions upon billions of dollars.

    But how will we know that an Ebola vaccine or an Ebola drug is safe?  There have been dozens upon dozens of examples of pharmaceutical drugs that were approved by the government that later turned out to be incredibly harmful.

    Sadly, most people don’t stop to think about those examples.  They just continue to have blind faith in the drug companies.  And if Ebola does start spreading rapidly in this country, there will be millions of Americans that are begging for whatever “solutions” the drug companies come up with.


    beginning-of-the-end-snyderMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

    Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

    If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.

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    1. eppe says:

      In the words of Monty Pyton ‘run away, run away…’

      • Gods Creation says:

        Get ready to make your colloidal silver

        FREE pdf at www-targetputting.com/SilverArticle.pdf

        Fix the link above and get started today before it is too late.

        • Mountain Trekker says:

          New Article, I’ll probably just forget all the past comments I’ve made on this site. Trekker out

        • Steveo'clock says:

          Why are you always pushing CS? Are you a shill or something?

          Go find a forum that puts up with that I’m sick of seeing you on here telling everyone that CS is going to save then

          • Gods Creation says:

            I have nothing to sell, but a Big Pharma and banking cabal to kill, and an obligation to God to save as many of His people as possible during the coming plagues.

            For those in the troll, PLEASE do not take or consider taking colloidal silver.

            If you are a patriotic American who loves freedom, the Constitution, and God, make sure you take enough to get the job done.

          • Well how about oregano oil and goldenseal then?? Thats my plan.

            • Vicky says:

              Good plan, but combine all three, plus Elderberry. That’s what I plan to do, and have enough for the family assuming they have sufficient time to get here. My great-grandfather was a horse and buggy doctor and he told us that he saved a woman with the Spanish Flu by giving her an IV that had 8 ounces of hydrogen peroxide added per quart of salt water. For Heaven’s sake, don’t try this at home! I’m unsure of proportions, plus I’m not sure it was an IV and not just an injection. I understood, as a child does, that this was not an uncommon occurrence. The woman pulled through which I thought was very impressive, but I know nothing more and have had no luck in finding any mention of it anywhere. However, if any of my family succumbs to this, I just might try it. I think the theory is that the peroxide wipes out the virus, but the proportions have to be just right to avoid damaging the veins. Somebody please tell me you’ve heard of this! I would have been ten years old when he told me this and he died soon after.

          • Warchild Dammit! says:

            Steve,if GS was pushing a supplier of the wire or some gadget to make the silver would say there is a agenda,as GS doesn’t and has given ways to do cheaply and easily would say he is just giving out info like many do here,really only seems to come up during health related articles so seems a appropriate response whether you personally think it has a value or not.

          • DMONIC says:

            AGREED Steveo’clock! I’m sick of these shills pushing CS as well. IF it really was a wonder cure, some doctor would put his reputation on the line to prove it.

        • Barn Cat says:

          That stuff has no proven value.

          • Gods Creation says:

            Barn cat, It has a LOT of proven value to me and millions of others who are awake and have actually tried it and used it properly.

            But that’s OK, you don’t need to take it. Somebody needs to occupy those FEMA camps and you will fit right in.

            • Agent Provocatour says:

              Well, If its good enough for NASA …

            • nosuchuser says:

              Placebo effect is a bitch, ain’t it?

              • Gods Creation says:

                Placebo effect?

                Is that what you call it when you take something for an infected tooth and end up with no more toe nail fungus and the disappearing red face of rosacia that one has had for years?

                Is that what you call it when the puppy next door was sent home by the vet to die of parvo, along with a bill for $175, only to watch it make a full recovery in less than 48 hours after being given silver?

                Is that what you call it when nobody in your family has had a need to see a doctor in years because they no longer get sick? And that includes my two children who were in school.

                Silver proved itself to me by helping my body cure things I never even thought to take it for. I have seen it work “miracles” for others as well.

                Now there are people who ask me for it, and they are the same ones who said it would not work BEFORE they tried it.

                The placebo effect only happens when one BELIEVES what they are taking will work. Silver overcomes the disbelief and works anyway.

            • Hugh Janus says:

              Won’t dismiss CS out of hand, but when you say it cures ANYTHING, you sound like you’re full of shit. I guess it enlarges the penis on men and breasts on women, too.

              • Gods Creation says:

                HJ, all I said is that no virus, fungus, or bacteria can survive in the presence of silver. The body cures itself, silver is just a weapon you can give it to assist in doing so.

                Using colloidal silver in the face of Ebola and other biological weapons that may get thrown at us is nothing more than making sure your body is well armed to fight. Your body is the gun that kills the virus, the silver is an unlimited supply of bullets for that gun.

                Many may think I am full of shit. My own brother thinks I am, without even trying something free that has proven to stop something painful (shingles).

                That doesn’t bother me in the least. While it is sad that so many will die because of their belief in the Pharma cartel, and the benevolence of government, those are the ones that can not be saved and would be of little or no help in the fight for freedom anyway.

                I am trying to help those who think for themselves and may give Freedom a foothold once the bankster war against the people of the world becomes self evident to even the dumbest people on the planet.

          • Vicky says:

            Our family has anecdotal evidence that it works, from viral pneumonia to a bad case of septicemia while on a camping trip. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain by giving it a chance. However, it’s your choice. Also, none of us are blue, but we’re alive! (We get ours, ASAP brand at 10 ppm, from Camping Survival. It has the cheapest rates as this can get pricey.)

            • Vicky says:

              You are correct, dear sir. It cured my viral pneumonia in less than a week and the tests my MD gave me confirmed it was a virus. I didn’t even have any scarring of the lungs. Twenty-some people in our area died from this, as it was a virulent strain. Possibly in 2003, plus or minus two years, although it was very roughly after Y2K.

              • Vicky says:

                Sorry for the double post.

              • Vicky says:

                Camping Survival, in which I have no financial interests, is now carrying fish antibiotics at decent rates. I would at least stock up on Amoxicillan, and Ciprofloxin for Anthrax in case Barry decides to double down on killing us. All antibiotics are not yet ineffective, and it’s good to have the best ones on hand in a cool and dry place.

          • knotReally says:

            So its time for me to post again. I have two things:
            1) what does ptpb stand for? i asked a while back but couldnt find where i posted my question. Maybe i wont forget this time.

            2) I listened to a missionary talk about his works in Cambodia and how he was able to source local materials to purify water there prior to his passing a few years later. His name, Mickey Sampson. He founded RDIC.org. They use silver as a biocide to aid in the filtration. Granted they use ceramic filters to mechanically prevent most virus/fungus/whatever but they coat it with Silver.

            I cant comment on the value of ingesting it, as i assume you are referring (because i believe i just provided ample information on the value of it outside the body), because i have not researched it and/or seen (what i consider) unbiased information on it.
            However, I cannot immediately eliminate the thought/idea that silver would not have a similar effect inside the body as it does outside. To believe otherwise without proof is a volitional act certainly not based on logic or reason.

        • Havok says:

          yeah, nice snake oil…you gonna peddle that crap across the west?

        • Anonymous says:

          Gods Creation-you know you’re on the right track when the paid trolls show up in multiples to try and shut you up! Keep on saying it….!

        • This Texan Has Had Enough says:

          Colloidal Silver has its uses but it is not the magic cure-all you believe it to be. Would be nice if it were!

          • Gods Creation says:

            If taken properly, you just might find that it is. Just don’t expect corroboration from the corp and it’s medical “profession”.

            So far, I have had or seen no infection that it failed on. Probably because my family takes it at the very first sign something is not right.

            I have full faith in God and His medicine to see my family through whatever the evil serves up.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Let me guess, there is a “Free Train Ride” to the Vaccination Clinic. All Aboard Obummer Express!!

        • Truth avenger says:

          Ebola basically kills like “scurvy-on-steroids”. I have a background in Biology and pre-Med. Apparently, the Ebola virus reduces serum levels of ascorbic acid, aka Vitamin C to ZERO. (Yes, I have been researching the pathology and REASONS this virus kills so effectively).

          This results in systemic organ and blood vessel failure. I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN, but I do believe massive doses of liposomal Vitamin C(much higher doses are tolerated) could very well be a valid treatment/support option for the ebola virus.

          There is that label again…VIRUS. Silver solutions may help with secondary bacterial infections…BUT NOT EVEN SILVER KILLS A VIRUS. Your own well maintained/supported immune system must ultimately defeat a VIRUS. I posted this on another site.

          As far as a “mandatory Ebola vaccine”…forget it. If you still have enough trust in this “gooberment” to fall for that one, you will receive THEIR final solution.

          I WILL NOT BE IN THAT VACCINE LINE!

          • Gods Creation says:

            “”””BUT NOT EVEN SILVER KILLS A VIRUS.”””

            Not true. Research has indicated that there is NO KNOWN VIRUS that can live in the presence of silver. It is also effective against all fungus and bacteria.

            Do thorough research. Pharma antibiotics are only effective against BACTERIAL infection. Silver has no such limitations.

            Many recent studies have been done overseas. The “silver edge” website has many available for you to read.

            • Truth avenger says:

              Anti-viral is an ambiguous label depending on WHO is using it, and in what CAPACITY. I will research the “path” you have left. Frankly, I hope YOU are dead right!

              • Truth avenger says:

                What I have discovered is this: 99.9% of articles, commentaries, and “studies” are related to manufacturing entities that sell either pre-made collodial silver, or others SELLING the equipment package to create your own.

                Before WE get off track, I AM A HUGE FAN, USER, AND ENDORSE THE USE OF SILVER SOLUTIONS. Just NOT as the “cure anything panacea” that is advertised.

                Example: The herpes “VIRUS”, all strains. Symptoms can and do TEMPORARILY subside with the use of internal silver products. TEMPORARY. The VIRUS is not eradicated/CURED.

                CURE vs SYMPTOM reduction are two separate conclusions and RESULTS!

                Please, everyone draw your own conclusions. I seek/speak the truth as I know it, period.

            • Vicky says:

              You are correct, dear sir. It cured my viral pneumonia in less than a week and the tests my MD gave me confirmed it was a virus. I didn’t even have any scarring of the lungs. Twenty-some people in our area died from this, as it was a virulent strain. Possibly in 2003, plus or minus two years, although it was very roughly after Y2K.

          • Vicky says:

            I won’t be either, but I don’t want to be rounded up. Do you have a plan for avoiding them, OPSEC allowing? At the first verifiable outbreak, I’m canceling the mail and newspapers and we’re staying home and not going out of the house for any reason. I plan to announce that we’re going on a month long cruise, then stopping to visit relatives in Oregon to explain our absence. My husband has six weeks of vacation built up, so he’s using all of it until we finally figure out just what is going on. Good Luck! I guess this is “shelter in place” although that has such a nasty ring to it after Boston.

          • laura m. says:

            Truth avenger: some cannot tolerate the standard high vit C doses, will get some of the liposomal vit c. by mail order.

        • anonymous says:

          When does it expire? The stuff you buy at the store has an expiration date but I heard it doesn’t really ever expire and that they need to have an expiration date because of the law.

        • apache54 says:

          you need NANO colodial silver at least .10 nm or smaller and it will work !it can penetrate at a cellular level

        • Buck says:

          Just ordered everything to make colloidal silver! Should have it tomorrow.

          Do you buy your distilled water or make it yourself? I’m thinking I should make it myself because the only distilled water I have seen is in a plastic jug. Does the plastic jug have any effect or leach chemicals into the water?

          • Warchild Dammit! says:

            Buck,if easy enuff do your own just so you know it is distilled.All the reading I have done on CS seems to mention storing in brown/glass bottles out of direct sunlight when not being used.I am looking at different sites for brown bottles but will just make sone up and store in clear glass for moment just so I have it now,with many projects/research going on right now just want some made up,as time permits will go into overdrive with right bottles and if find a good source of bottles on line will put out info. here.

            • Gods Creation says:

              Buck, I get mine from Walmart for 88 cents a gallon. Always tests at 0 PPM when I put it in a clean glass. Having said that, to be in total control of production you should have a water distiller and a way to power it should you have to make it in the wild.

              WCD, go get yourself some long necks and use foil as a top. You get a buzz and some bottles at the same time. 🙂 Or you can go to a bar and ask the owner/bartender if you can have a few empties.

              I make and take mine right then. That is when it is best and most potent.

            • You can buy different size amber glass bottles on Amazon. There are some for storage (8 oz and 16 oz) and some smaller ones in a combo pack with spray nozzles for the nose and throat. When I ordered they messed up and sent me two with the nose spray caps instead of one of each. I decided that’s OK since I might have two people sick at the same time and the nose sprayer got better reviews. I also bought the 8 oz storage bottle. Might buy more in case I need to loan some to neighbors.

              Also consider buying a nebulizer and mask for the lungs and throat. You’d have to have some means of electricity for this to work, however.

      • California Resident says:

        *insert sound of charging handle being racked, here*

      • Navy Vet says:

        I wonder how they’re going to identify the immunized vs the non. Small pox inoculation leaves an identifiable mark. In the case of Ebola, I’d think that they’d want anyone that has been immunized to be easily identified by any other citizen. A shot card, some kind of token, a subcutaneous chip administered with the shot, tattoo?

        Other Ideas?

        • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

          There is nothing they can do that cannot be duplicated by the unscrupulous! Luckily, instantaneous tests for antibodies are not yet available and will probably remain so for the or if available will be prohibitively expensive for the foreseeable future.

          I would think a good indicator of compliance would be forming into nice orderly queues for the inspecting official; those sheeple self-identify themselves by voluntarily exposing their anus to anyone waving a badge. Conversely, it would be a safe assumption that someone with a Molon Labe or a Ron Paul sticker on their vehicle is probably not in compliance; gun racks in their vehicle would be another indicator. If one needed whatever ID card or identifier was required, it could be safely taken from any Prius owner just by telling them you are a cop and you need to see their proof of immunization.

          • Indiana Jones says:

            Why does driving a Prius make you a sheep? We have one as a secondary vehicle and it is a great way to save money on gas. Paid $8500 for a 2008 model with 70k miles. We get 53 mpg on average. I love freedom and guns just as much as everyone else on this site. You may want to be careful what Prius owner you approach-especially in So. Indiana.

            • hammerhead says:

              indy, dont be so upset.
              Folks make “blanket ” statements everyday.
              Imagine the ridicule i recieve with a 74 pinto.
              But it WILL still roll after an EMP ,so….

            • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

              The issue with Prius and their owners is not that the car gets good gas mileage; a Geo Metro got just as good MPG for a third of the cost. Brain-dead Hollywood stars do not buy them and then be seen publicly in them because of good MPG; the reason people buy them and how they are marketed has to do with their perceived benefit to the environment and sense of social responsibility that one demonstrates by being seen in what is otherwise an underpowered and butt-ugly vehicle.

              I drove several Geo Metros for more than a decade because they were efficient, and inexpensive to operate and maintain vehicles. Any used car is better for the environment than a brand new hybrid which takes a tremendous amount of irreplaceable fossil fuels during the manufacturing process to save a small amount of fuel during operation. If these ignorant environ-sheeple-ists really understood how resources are utilized and where efficiencies could be gained, they would be looking to make small improvements in the fuel economy of trucks and buses instead of large improvements in the fuel economy of vehicles with already great MPG. Or they should be working to eliminate zoning laws which cause a tremendous amount of fuel to be wasted because of minimum lot sizes requiring far more house and land than a family needs, and puts suburbs far outside of non-motorized commuting from workplaces.

              I should have qualified that not all Prius owners are total douches, but more than enough of them are that there is a stereotype of the typical Prius owner that is grounded in fact, otherwise it wouldn’t be a stereotype.

              • Navy Vet says:

                Imagine a hybrid owners look of shock, when, after the battery dies, they’re presented with a $4000.00 bill to replace it. That’s the estimated cost to replace one in a Civic Hybrid. The failed Chevy Volt’s battery replacement cost was estimated at least twice that. I’d surmise those cost cuts deeply into the ROI of their gasoline savings.

                Then there’s the additional resource cost of disposal/recycling for the dead one and the manufacture of the new one.

                But hey, they’re saving the planet from all of those gas guzzling monsters, so I guess it’s OK.

                • Winston Smith says:

                  Except that you don’t always need to replace the whole pack. The nice thing about technology is that as it gets older, people hack it to try and figure out how it works. The Prius is now a well known technology and there are plenty of people out there who can fix a bad battery pack for as little as $500. In fact, there are shops that specialize in just hybrid systems, both repairing them and modifying them for increased efficiency. Remember: a Prius battery is not a single battery. It is a pack of smaller batteries and so replacing a damaged cell with a good one salvaged from a wrecked Prius is often all that is needed.

                  As for me, I drive a fuel efficient non-hybrid that gets around 40 city/50 highway. I have done plenty of modifications to it and hope the next series will drive me over 50 mpg in the city. I actually consider it one of my preps as I think high inflation is coming. If that happens, it will minimize my exposure to the financial system while people with gigantic trucks and SUVs will be hobbled by the cost per mile of their ego machines. It also allows me to put more money into something other than my gas tank to make me more resilient in a time of crisis.

                • the renegade braveheart says:

                  Navy Vet, I’ll take my GMC Sierra any day over some little mickey mouse car. If you get hit in one of those, you’re dead meat. if you get hit in a full-size vehicle, 9 times out of 10 you will survive. Those little pissant cars are just death traps.

            • eppe says:

              Jeff Dunham on blue Prius….

              ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP-tyvBGla4

        • Winston Smith says:

          It’s far easier than that! Obamacare makes all of your medical records property of the US government. So, they will know who to round up and who not to.

          As far as what I will do, I don’t really know. I won’t be an early adopter as I would want to watch what happens to all the sheep that go first. It may be a legitimate vaccine that saves millions or even billions of lives and is done with the right motives. However, I am dubious about putting that much trust in the government/corporations. So, at this time I am adopting a wait and see attitude since the situation does not exist. I try to always act logically and not let my emotions get in the way of critical thinking.

          • the renegade braveheart says:

            Winston, NEVER, EVER trust government or corporations on ANYTHING. That’s friendly advice from braveheart.

            • Winston Smith says:

              Blind trust? No thanks. I never trust any person or entity that has a lot of influence or power. However, we all trust these entities in one way or another every time we go about our daily business. Sometimes we need big pharma to solve or at least treat certain things. I know people with life long mental health issues like schizophrenia who need their meds in order to function. Is there a profit being made off of them? Certainly. Does the individual benefit? Yes. Sometimes you end up trusting them because there is no better option and in the case of an ebola outbreak it may be the better choice. After all, once it spreads here it will get into the rodent population. Form there it will enter the human food chain and those who are not vaccinated and who do not have a natural resistance will likely die. No matter how clean the facility is that processed your food, there are always rats and mice around looking for a free meal. They urinate and defecate where they eat, thus spreading the virus. This then infects cattle who either develop the illness or become immune carriers (depending on species). It also gets into vegetable and grain crops as well since vermin live in the fields. These animals are then get bitten by mosquitoes or bats who further spread the infection. Even if you grow your own food it is likely you will not be able to stop the natural world from contaminating it.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Navy Vet. They will embed a WiFi RFID Chip in your hand if you refuse. Then you are Golden bound to the nearest FEMA Camp. lol

        • George Washington says:

          Yep the will just tattoo 666 on the area of the shot. This could be the ultimate mark of the beast. No government fuck is going to force me or my family to take any shot! The rights of a free human override any government “law”.

          “I wonder how they’re going to identify the immunized vs the non. Small pox inoculation leaves an identifiable mark. In the case of Ebola, I’d think that they’d want anyone that has been immunized to be easily identified by any other citizen. A shot card, some kind of token, a subcutaneous chip administered with the shot, tattoo?

          Other Ideas?”

        • Vicky says:

          Oh, Ugh! Is this a another version of the sign of the beast??? I’ll bet they want to microchip you and I won’t put up with that. In case of smallpox being put in the mix to kill us faster, be sure to drape the sick room in red as, for some reason, it helps preserve eye sight and slightly decreases scarring. Do try some of the stronger antiobiotics in connection with CS and see if you can pull them through.

      • I like this answer much better:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2gdqtSavj0

        “OK, you bring the syringe, I’ll bring my .45, and we’ll see who makes a bigger hole.” -Michael Badnarik

        When that day comes, I won’t give 2 flying fucks about dying, since taking the needle already means you’re dead anyway.

      • 3rdown110yds2go says:

        @ Eppe

        And for those that will run to get it….

        I am reminded of ” Fireside Theatre ” and their saying…..

        ” I think we are all Bozos on this bus !!! “

      • Hugh Janus says:

        Or will the ‘vaccine’ give you the disease like in the book?…

      • Hugh Janus says:

        Remember the swine flu vaccine in the 70s? Caused a lot of misery.

      • JohnFornaro says:

        They should just put it on TV. We need a new game show.

    2. Gods Creation says:

      I will shoot instead of getting a shot.

    3. Jack Hammer says:

      I will NOT comply! No shots of any kind will I or my family take.

    4. Anonymous says:

      Getting a mandatory Ebola vaccine? Well I’ll ask first for the CEO of the phrama who have developed this vaccine to get the shot along with his/her entire family, then the entire members of the congress and the senate along with the President and his family. If they all survived within 6 month or didn’t developed any side effects then I might take the vaccine. Anything else the law makers who make this mandatory can go and F…themselves.

    5. Most will take it voluntarily because they will be so scared, and because they trust the gov’s judgement.
      I will stay out in the sticks.
      By the time they have forced inoculations this will have gotten so bad that all of us will be staying out in the sticks.

    6. Cellar Spider says:

      No vaccine for me. I’d. Rather take my chances on becoming patient #159,432,879.

    7. Cellar Spider says:

      No vaccine for me. I’d. Rather take my chances on becoming patient #159,432,879.

    8. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

      There is a large part of the citizenry that does not accept the authority of the imposter-in-chief; he can pontificate all he wants and demand that everyone be vaccinated but that does not necessarily mean that it will occur. Not all doctors will be in lockstep with an executive order demanding an experimental and untested vaccine be administered; I suspect it will be relatively easy to find doctors willing to pencil-whip whatever documents are necessary to show compliance and there will undoubtedly be doctors willing to do so for a bribe.

      That will be the easy way out; depending on how brutally the feds want ram the boy prince’s orders up the collective anus of the populace will determine whether there is pushback, and whether the resistance becomes violent. I would almost guarantee that it would; you cannot even get ignorant yuppies to inoculate their little darlings against measles and diphtheria with a exhaustively tested vaccine of proven efficacy so there most certainly will be noncompliance when ordered to get a experimental Ebola vaccine of unknown efficacy and unknown side effects.

      Although, if there are mounds of unburied Ebola dead lying in the streets then being forced to get an unproven vaccine will probably be the least of the worries of most of us…

      • hammerhead says:

        “easy to find doctors willing to pencil-whip whatever documents are necessary to show compliance and there will undoubtedly be doctors willing to do so for a bribe.”

        YEP, That would be the plan .
        That is what a few rounds of silver are for.
        Not drinkin , just sayin.

    9. Mountain Trekker says:

      I figure if everyone else gets a shot, I won’t have to worry. So I ain’t gonna did that! Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

    10. Audentis Fortuna Iuvat says:

      Any person (s) being made to do something against their own free will (vaccinated) should consider that action by the aggressor as assault and defend themselves and their family by any means necessary.

    11. Sinner says:

      Unless the “rapture” happens first.

      In answer to Barn Cat and his dumpy buddy. So John Nelson Darby, broke his leg in the 1830’s and suddenly discovered Dispensational Theology hidden in the Bible. Ask yourself this, why hadn’t Clemet of Rome, Polycarp, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, or thousands of other Bible scholars for the previous 1,800 years “discovered” them?

      If you knew your Christian History, you would know that #1 Darby was not a scholar, he was a defrocked Anglian Priest, #2 Some of what he “discovered’ he took from a crazy woman named “Mary MacDonald’ who died in a psych hospital. #3 C.I. Scofield who published the first Bible with Dispensational notes was a drunk who abandoned two Wives and multiple children. #4 D.L. Moody had no formal training as a Clergyman, he was a shoe salesman from Cleveland OH. #5 The History of The Church is full of half baked nuts, with no formal training to come up with “new” translations of the scriptures, like Jos. Smith and the Mormon cult, the Millerite’s which are now the Jehovah’s Witnesses cult, and the Dispensational cult.

      We have one Prophet, one Priest, and one King,… Christ! The devout Christian needs no other.

      • Walt Kowalski says:

        @Sinner…..

        As someone who was raised with Dispensational Theology I can tell you that you are absolutely correct.

        The Pre-Trib rapture doctrine has only been around since the 1830’s and was popularized by C.I. Scofield and his Scofield Reference Bible. Prior to that….the Pre-Trib rapture doctrine was unknown and not taught in the church.

        I do believe D.L. Moody to have been a good man, despite his lack of formal education in the Scripture. But that just means he was more susceptible to deceived by con-men like Darby and Scofield.

        Darby even ended up being a pariah among his own denomination.

      • Barn Cat says:

        The Rapture is clearly taught in scripture. The early church expected Jesus to return at any time. They lived accordingly.

        (Matthew 24:37-42 NIV) As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. {38} For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; {39} and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. {40} Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. {41} Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left. {42} “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

        • Barn Cat says:

          (2 Thessalonians 2:1-2 NIV) Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers, {2} not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by some prophecy, report or letter supposed to have come from us, saying that the day of the Lord has already come.

          It’s obvious from those verses that they expected Jesus to return before the Great Tribulation.

          And it’s obvious from these verses that believers will escape the Great Tribulation:

          (Luke 21:29-36 NIV) He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree and all the trees. {30} When they sprout leaves, you can see for yourselves and know that summer is near. {31} Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. {32} “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. {33} Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. {34} “Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. {35} For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. {36} Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

          • Barn Cat says:

            We don’t know when the Rapture happens but we know when Jesus appears at the end of the Great Tribulation. Once the antichrist goes into the rebuilt temple and declares himself to be God, it will be 1290 days until Jesus reappears.

            (Daniel 12:11 NIV) “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

            Jesus can’t come as a thief when no one expects him or sees him and also come when everyone expects him and everyone sees him. That can’t happen unless Jesus returns twice. And he does.

            • Winston Smith says:

              I think the best thing to say is that we honestly don’t know. Of course I would prefer a pre-trib rapture as I really don’t want to have to live through those times, but I can accept that I might have to go through it after all. It’s part of the reason I started prepping as I see prepping as a backup plan to things going on in a normal, boring way until my death. Going through the Great Tribulation would definitely be a disruption and would definitely require me to have certain skills that I didn’t have previously.

          • .gov watcher says:

            Didn’t take you Bible thumpers long to spout your stuff.

        • NewVegasBadger says:

          @Barn Cat, with all due respect, I have to disagree. I have my doubts that some how all the good christians will be spirited away, as some advocates of the Rapture believe. A “Rapture” means there would be two Second Comings of our Lord Jesus, once to Rapture the Christians away, and again to physically return to this planet. There is also the debate as to when the Rapture will happen; Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib or Post-Trib. All have their Scripture base as why they are right and the other two positions are wrong.
          I am 100% certain that Jesus will come back, it is the ultimate secret as to when it will happen, it will take every one by suprise and there will be zero doubt about the event. I find the every day struggle to live in a manner to glorify my Savior is more than enough to keep my occupied. I admit I am a piss poor excuse for a Christian. And it is all my own fault. As for future events, they will unfold per plan.
          The early Christians were murdered for their faith. Christian world wide are in this present day facing the same faith. We in the FUSA, should be prepared for the same.

          • Barn Cat says:

            It’s obvious from scripture that Jesus has to come back twice.

            Jesus can only come back when it’s a surprise if it happens before the tribulation starts. Once the antichrist makes a 7 year peace treaty with Israel it will be exactly 7 years until he returns. Then he will return on the clouds of heaven at a time when everyone sees him and everyone expects him. Not come as a thief when no one sees him or expects him.

            The lesson from the pre-trib Rapture is that we need to be living for Christ NOW.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Yeah, Noah was 300 years old, loaded every animal on the planet on to one big boat that he built all by himself, and sailed it himself to the promise land. And not one animal got hungry and ate the other, cause Noah fed them all space food sticks and some cling-ons Angels flew down and guided him to the Mountain Top. Imagine if Noah only knew the prepper motto 1 is none and 2 is one. To load 2 of every animal on the planet it must have been bigger than the Bronks Zoo x 100 in size. But yet after a few thousand years not one single trace of any boat the size of Philly has been found. That God guy sure works in mysterious ways, I tell ya.

          • Barn Cat says:

            The Bible is clear that the Flood was a literal event. Just as hell is a real place and Jesus is a real person.

            God did a lot of things after the Flood. The animals were multiplied so that there was no damage from inbreeding. There’s no salt contamination in the Great Lakes. The plants on the earth weren’t drowned.

            The events on the earth are moving towards a one-world government with Satan’s hand picked man to rule the earth. Read your Bible. See who wins.

            • nosuchuser says:

              While the Bible may be ‘clear’, the geological record says that there was not a global flood. Sorry to burst your bubble.

            • So how did the kangaroos end up in Australia? How did the penguins get to the Antarctic? Why are lemurs only in Madagascar? Did Noah drive all over the planet and drop them off separately, two at a time? What about the millions of insects? It doesn’t add up.

          • Archivist says:

            Go to 39 degrees 26 minutes 26 seconds North, 44 degrees 14 minutes 5 seconds East, at an altitude of over 6,000 feet, on Google Earth and you will see the remains of the Ark.

            And it was not two of “every animal on the planet.” It was two of every “kind” of animal. For example, there were not two of every single breed of dog on the ark. There were just two dogs. The different breeds developed later. There are at least 15 breeds that have been created in the past 60 years, so it doesn’t take long for one “kind” of animal to become many breeds.

            • nosuchuser says:

              Breeds and species are two wildly different things! Of course there is also the inconvenient fact that if the bulk of life on this Earth had been wiped out due to a flood 6,000 years ago; their bones would be present in the geological record.

              Naturally, we cannot locate those bones….

      • slingshot says:

        I wish all those who talk about the Rapture would go ahead and do it and get the hell out of the way so the rest of us can get on with the fighting.

        • Barn Cat says:

          They started it. I finished it.

          • Sinner says:

            Barn Cat
            You are a liar and a hypocrite! The pre-trib “rapture’ was first introduced by a woman as crazy as you are named Mary MacDonald of Scotland. That is a documented fact of history!

            Just because you can quote a passage does not mean in any sense that you can translate it or understand it, you dope!

            She was a self proclaimed Prophet of some weird 20 member church who claimed that she was told about it in a dream. Darby then took the idea and made it his own to help fill seats in his near empty church.

            MacDonald died in an insane asylum.

            • Gods Creation says:

              Many Barn Cats will be deceived. The problem they have is not with being deceived, but in being told the truth that does not follow the deception.

            • the renegade braveheart says:

              Sinner, I don’t know if I agree with Barncat’s posts since I haven’t researched it yet, but where do you get off calling him a liar and hypocrite? It’s possible he could be right. BTW, Barncat, I do enjoy reading youir posts. haven’t agree with all of them, but you do express yourself really well.

          • Anonymous says:

            If you are finished go back to your barn.

        • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

          You think if we pray hard enough He will take pity on us and remove them from our midst?

          As a disciple of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I do not believe in Dispensational Theology or Rapturism. When the challenges of daily life become tedious I ask myself “What would His Holy Noodliness Do?” And as always, I eat some pasta and drink some beer. Just imagine how much less religious violence and strife we would have if everyone was a Pastafarian!

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Hey Sling, Instead of calling your AR-15 an Assault Rifle lets call it our “Rapture Rifle.” And the Bullets are smart bullets that only take out Religious Fanatics.

        • Barn Cat says:

          I wish the Rapture was today. I have no trouble leaving unbelievers to face the wrath of the antichrist.

          • @Barn Cat

            I actually like reading your posts when I see your name come up. Sorry everyone’s attacking you personally. When it comes down to it we’re all doing the best with what we’ve got and whatever will be will be. You’re probably better at prepping than I am and that’s what matters on this forum.

        • 3rdown110yds2go says:

          @ Slingshot….

          Here comes the thumbs down !!!

          I started and went on forever the other night about what you just said…..and I finally stopped and erased all of it…wasted time and wasted emotion..

          My wife has left me and gone off and joined some Religious Cult group….7,473 different interpretaions of the Bible in the group…they are all in the know…they are rubbing oil on each others foreheads…and who knows what else…but she is right in there believing all the Cult Minded BULLSHIT they are spouting…they all seem to know ….WTF they know I have no idea !!!

          I denounce Satan….I believe there is a God….

          I also believe unless you TOTALLY understand…speak…………and can properly translate ” Hebrew ” as well as ” Greek ” you ain’t got a clue as to what was TRULY said …..It comes down to people saying what they ” Think ” it means.

          I think Religion has caused more confusion in societies and more deaths by Religious Wars than anything .

          Sorry guys….believe what you may….but I am going to still feel like you preach to other people what ” YOU ” think it means….what you think it is saying….but I will ask you this….do you speak fluent ” Hebrew ” and “Greek ” ? If not…have you ever heard the expression….” Well, it seems to loose something in the Translation “.

          • 3rdDown,

            Sorry to hear that. I’m not sure you can pull her back from something like that. Was she abused or ignored growing up? Sounds like she wants to be a martyr or feel that she’s special and “chosen”. I can only hope there are no children involved. Do you have family nearby?

            • 3rdown110yds2go says:

              @ CBGB

              She did have a rough childhood….so did I…so have lots of people who/some were able to live a full normal life (If Normal is a word !!!) And let it all go to function properly in life and realtionships…some I truly believe like the Drama and are constantly seeking it out…and if they can’t find it….they create some !!!

              I am Ok as I can be with all of this….I realize I can’t change anything…I personally think she has been on a self induced path of self destruction all of her life….The thing that truly kills me about all of this..is the fact that she “Does Not ” live up to what she preaches….Tries to fix everybody elses life with Her Bible and she doesn’t even live by it !!! That to me is very painful and confusing …

              All I know is I have never tried so hard in all my life to get something to work out…to care for someone…to protect someone…to show someone how much I Love them and wanted them to be happy….all for naught !!!

              End of the Soap Opera for today…I am sure everyone has their own problems ….I wish everyone the best in working their lives/realtionships out…

              Be Safe CBGB

          • sixpack says:

            Even the ancient hebrews and greeks who wrote parts of the Bible may only have been writing down what they thought.

            • 3rdown110yds2go says:

              @ Sixpack

              Excellent point …..That was my point in my post ……Maybe my problem is that I tend to deal in Logic and facts…I don’t do well with “Hearsay”.

              I do still believe….in what …sometimes I am not really sure !!!

      • Anonymous says:

        Sinner Says

        I agree

        Also just read the 6th Chapter of John and Jesus clearly tells you when the rapture is going to be at least 4 if not 5 times in that chapter alone. 6:39 6:40 6:44 6:54

    12. notlikemostpeeps says:

      Wow, talk about pressure! Get this vaccine or else mentality!

    13. Walt Kowalski says:

      They have two options….

      1. Leave me alone.

      2. Kill me.

      *Note*…if they choose option #2 above, then they should prepare to have to fill more than one body bag.

    14. Merree says:

      I am certain that it is very important to comply with any designated vaccinations programs- the government always knows what is best, right?

      But it is shocking how easy it might be to create fraudulent documents. After all, those little pink vaccine cards only need a date written in and some initials. And some of the other paperwork could easily be recreated with a simple publishing program. But I am sure that the only people who would consider doing such things would be the sociopaths who have no concern for the betterment of public health. I am sure no one here would ever consider these types of actions.

    15. Sgt. Dale says:

      I know how to give shots.
      If I can give the Government their shots and use the vaccine that they are using on us on them. Then and only then I will take the vaccine.
      You know this won’t happen so! I guess I will not get the vaccine.
      CAN WE JUST SAY HELL NO!!!
      Sgt.

      • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

        If I was able to administer the shots I would be giving them placebos; hell, anyone I could discern was a government employee or an Obama supporter would get a placebo. If the vaccine was just a Trojan Horse then they would die if they got it, but the placebo will ensure they get it from other infected individuals. If I could think this up then there are surely those among the administering officials who will be doing so. Plan accordingly!

    16. Ebola is not air transmittable. Proper sanitation can contain it easily.

      The only reason they would be pushing this vaccine is to gain power or money or both. It is even possible that this outbreak was deliberate, just to sell these “cures.”

      • Navy Vet says:

        Son … From your post: “Ebola is not air transmittable. Proper sanitation can contain it easily.”

        Please explain your theory on how this disease is being transmitted to, at last count, 100 health care workers, two of whom were WORLD RENOWNED infectious disease specialist doctors that have subsequently died. Wouldn’t one think that these health care workers would be WELL VERSED in infectious disease control procedures, especially the doctors? Yet, the two doctors are DEAD and many more of the health care workers are dieing or DEAD. How, if the disease can only be spread by contact, did all of these people become infected? I could understand a couple of cases among health workers. Accidents happen. 100 or more? Not an accident, different spread vector.

        Moreover, how did the American doctor who was recently flown back to the states with the disease become infected? Certainly, he took every precaution being a western educated and certified doctor. Yet, he became infected.

        There have been experiments done on animals that were well separated in physical space, yet the disease was passed from infected animals to non-infected animals that weren’t even the same species. How did this happen?

        I think that this is a new mutant strain that is more easily spread via airborne vector. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me.

        • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

          They were all surreptitiously buggering each other; the virus is present in semen…

          Seriously, I do not buy the proclamations by medical authorities that it is not airborne. For a disease that is supposedly so hard to catch, there seems to be an excess of caution. I also do not know why it couldn’t be spread by mosquitoes or other blood drinking insects. At least one version of Ebola is truly airborne transmissible, that is Ebola Reston which killed a bunch of monkeys in a monkey house in Virginia, but was not fatal to humans.

      • Canadian scientists disagree with you Son of Liberty.

    17. eppe says:

      I can see this is going to be a raccous crowd, so here is your joke for the day. Enjoy…

      Flat tire:

      A blonde’s car gets a flat tire on the Interstate one day so she eases it over onto the shoulder of the road.
      She carefully steps out of the car and opens the trunk. Takes out two cardboard men, unfolds them and stands them at the rear of the vehicle facing oncoming traffic.

      The lifelike cardboard men are in trench coats exposing their nude bodies to approaching drivers…
      Not surprisingly, the traffic became snarled and backed up. It wasn’t very long before a police car arrives. The Officer, clearly enraged, approaches the Blonde of the disabled vehicle yelling, “What is going on here?”
      “My car broke down, Officer” says the woman, calmly.
      “Well, what the hell are these obscene cardboard pictures doing here by the road?!” asks the Officer…
      “Helllllooooo, those are my emergency flashers!” she replied

      • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

        A blonde driving an original VW Beetle suddenly has a stalled engine and pulls over to the side of the road.
        As she is standing there over the open hood scratching her head in confusion another blonde with an identical VW Beetle pulls up behind her.
        The second blonde walks up and asks what is the problem.
        The first replies “I was just driving along and the engine stopped working, and I cannot tell what is wrong with it!”
        Blonde #2 looks under the hood for a while then exclaims “I know what is wrong with your engine! Your engine is missing!”
        Blonde #1 says “Wow, you are a genius! It is missing! But what am I going to do now?”
        Blonde #2 replied “Well, today is your lucky day because I happen to have a spare engine in my trunk!”

      • the renegade braveheart says:

        eppe, you’re simply the best. keep them coming.

    18. Six tested for Ebola in NYC, the false flag is being sown before our eyes!

      • Buck says:

        So far everyone is testing negative for Ebola? Really? No sure I believe that. I am in a frenzy stocking my pantry. If it blows over then I won’t have to go grocery shopping all winter.

    19. Socrates says:

      This is actually very, very BAD.

      They let Ebola loose all over the U.S. and wait for the level of deaths to rapidly increase, wait till the level of sheep ‘BAAA’ing reaches a fever pitch, then pitch the ‘vaccine cure’ on EVERYONE.

      Those who refuse *will* be taken away to (insert camp name here)never to be seen again. This is so perverted it’s borders on criminally insane genius. You refuse for *any* reason and they now have legal, justifiable grounds to remove you. Not good. Does anyone else see the huge problem brewing before our eyes?

      Give me a forced injection and I give you one BACK…at 3400fps!

      • Navy Vet says:

        Funny how this “new vaccine” magically appears at just the right moment in time after almost 40 years of unsuccessful experimentation, isn’t it?

        • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress says:

          I wouldn’t be too sure that the purpose of a vaccine is to keep the hordes of ignorant breeders from becoming infected and dying. This quote from Heinlein makes my point –

          “Do-gooding is like treating hemophilia – the real cure is to let hemophiliacs bleed to death…before they breed more hemophiliacs.”

        • 3rdown110yds2go says:

          @ Navy Vet…

          I was wondering today if when I go in for my appointments at the VA Clinic if they will be standing at the ready to give all us Vets the Miracle Vaccine !!!

          If so….I guess they would truly have us by the Nads…If I walk out..refuse…tell them I go take a leak first and not return…will I be refused any further treatment ….Will the VA have the power to shut out all Vets who refuse ?

          What say ye…..

      • Out of curiosity, what do you Socrates and others here think would be in this vaccine that they would try to enforce on us?

        • Navy Vet says:

          I’ll take a stab at this based on the little that I know about this stuff. There are a couple of problems with whatever it is that they’re going to be trying to foist on us as a “cure”. This vaccine is purported to be some kind of recombinant RNA technology that disrupts the virus’s ability to replicate. Because it is so new, there hasn’t been a lot of time to prove how well it works, i.e. does it cure 100%, 75%, 50%, less.

          Timing of administration will probably also be determinant in how well it works. In other words, is it still effective if administered to an already sick patient. We may know more about that in the next month as the two sick American’s have both been administered the experimental vaccine.

          Another big problem with recombinant RNA technology itself is that unless it has been tested extensively, the researcher doesn’t know if it causes unintended mutations in cell DNA. The recombinant bonds might be weak causing the virus DNA to break apart after combining with the vaccine RNA, insert pieces of itself in an inappropriate place in cell DNA, causing all kinds of mayhem in the host. Then again the pieces might be benign. No one knows at this point.

          A third problem is that the target virus must be known and stable, i.e.not mutating on its own. This instability and mutation characteristic is the biggest reason that there has been no effective cure for the AIDS virus after thirty years of research. Yes, AIDS can be controlled, however if a person contracts it, they’re taking a combination of powerful immuno suppressive drugs for the rest of their life, which must be changed periodically because the virus adapts and mutates in the host, just to keep the virus in check. AIDS at this time is not curable and may never be.

          Then there’s the growing general distrust of government by many citizens due to the rampant bold lies that are being sold as truth in the face of overwhelming facts to the contrary on an almost daily basis. Obama in particular and Harry Reid seem to prefer telling a lie when the truth would be more constructive. One example: “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period.”

          Normally a vaccine for a virus gets a lot of testing to determine its efficacy, its ability to do the intended job killing the virus AND to determine that in the process of doing its intended job it not causing some unintended, unforeseen negative consequence that’s somewhat as bad, as bad or worse than the original disease.

          All of these things in combination contribute to the extreme reluctance of acceptance that will manifest should this untried, unproven vaccine be forced on the public and the blowback won’t be pretty.

          In answer to your original question, “…what’s in it…”, who the hell knows and that’s the point.

    20. A truck driver who was stopped at an apparent Border Patrol checkpoint and asked if he was a U.S. citizen is becoming an Internet star after he asked the Border Patrol agent a question of his own.

      You just have the see the agent’s response in the 56-second video:

      If you didn’t watch the video, here’s what happened in the encounter:

      Agent: How are you doing? U.S. Border Patrol. How many people are on board?

      Driver: Me.

      Agent: Are you a citizen?

      Driver: Yeah, but does it really matter?

      Agent: Not any more, unfortunately. Thank you.

    21. ridiculous says:

      off topic here.. I was thinking about if tshtf, and I had to bug out. would I have to worry about other preppers?

      for those of you who live in the sticks… if I made it all the way out there, approached your cabin, would you immediately shoot me?
      would you tell me to go back the other way?
      help?
      just something I thought about the other day. (im in my early 30’s and probably not too friendly looking at first)

    22. slingshot says:

      Will you listen to a government that covers all the bad stuff up. Tells foreign nations that the little man can not make decisions for himself. Proclaims people Need Official directions to maintain their lives. Tells others to not listen to the truth. Make treaty’s that inhibit financial growth, well being, and restrict liberty.

      Now you are going to trust a quickly formulated vaccine?

      Get ready folks, it’s coming around the mountain.

    23. i make decisions for me and my body, and anyone who trys to force me either threw group think/ peer pressure, or even legal pressure can suck a bag of dicks and go straight to hell with their yuppy followers.

      the only time anyone should be allowed to force anyone to do anything, like spend life in a cage, is if they are actively hurting others, they forfeit their freedom, because they have chosen to take it from others.

      my god damn choice to take a vaccine, just like its my god damn choice to live on the side of a volcano if the ground was shaking and it was about to errupt.

      nough said.

    24. Achilles Heel says:

      I will do the same thing I did while in the US Navy and they ordered me to get the anthrax vaccine. Showed up, had my name crossed off the list, got in line, then walked away when they weren’t looking.

      Remember folks, we are talking about a government program ran by government employees. Keep your wits about you and it isn’t hard to outsmart them.

    25. Anonymous says:

      I won’t be taking any shots either. It would probably be the shot that makes you deathly ill or dead. On another note, people blaming the Jews for all that is wrong in the world are missing the doings of Catholicism. Read: The Jesuit Vatican New World Order- Belfast was a Protestant Haven and was hated by the Jesuits. Enter all that above after read for a revealing look at just who controls America and is responsible for all wars, the Fed, all u.s. presidents and the murder of JFK. Vietnam was also their war to spread catholic influence and retain control of the drug trade. JFK wanted America out of Vietnam. The day after his murder, his order to end the war was recinded. The Jesuits and the Papacy also ordered the deliberate sinking of the Titanic, which carried the opposition to the Fed creation into America.

    26. ipper says:

      What Walt Kowalski said.

    27. Anon says:

      Sarepta Therapeutics in Cambridge, Ma. has a safe RNA based therapy that has a success rate of over 80% in primates compared to a near 100% chance of death.

    28. Backdraft says:

      They can take their vaccine & stick it………where the sun don’t shine…

    29. aljamo says:

      No shots for me, thank you. The heat to squash dissent and the truth seems ready to transition to another evil level. The depravity to maintain control spells doom for common mankind. On another note of depravity, read: “The Jesuit Vatican New World Order – Belfast was a Protestant haven and was hated by the Jesuits.” Truth about the wars, the Fed, the deliberate sinking of the Titanic to remove wealthy opposition to the Fed into America , the real Vietnam war perpetrators and who actually murdered JFK. They also control U.S. presidents. It appears the Jew bashing is a cover for the real culprits who have been killing protestant christians for centuries.

    30. Agent Provocatour says:

      I just heard on the radio that the serum is derived from tobacco .. any thoughts on that?

      • slingshot says:

        Smoke them if you have them.

      • Merree says:

        They have genetically modified tobacco to produce the pharmaceutical compound, but this is being downplayed. I do not think the compound they are using is a compound normally present in tobacco. This makes it suspicious that this treatment has been in the works for a long time.

        I call these “drugs in search of a disease”. Make up a treatment and wait around for a chance to use it. Maybe even get government dollars to do so rapidly once a crisis hits.

        It is interesting that the Americans were flown back here so the CDC can watch them. I bet the military is involved too. Why would they want to transport these folks such a long distance and risk contamination?

        My thoughts are that this is a control issue. The CDC and US military do not have a containment facility in Africa to monitor/experiment upon the disease victims. It would be too inconvenient and risky to fly the experts to Africa. Much safer and easier to bring them here. Besides, in Africa, they would have the WHO and various foreign governments looking over their shoulders. Something to think about.

    31. TheGuy says:

      “If they do make it mandatory for all Americans to take an Ebola vaccine, what will you do?”

      IF? What IF???

      Obamacare.

      It’s mandatory. The end. At least if you want to stay covered. But if you’renot covered… oh yeah that’s illegal.

      Where’s the IF in this picture?

    32. Agent Provocatour says:

      The way I see it: If the government really wants to do mean nasty things to folks they would withhold the serum from all but their selected/favored groups

    33. Yeah these two “magically” were cured by this “vaccine!” Did they ever really have Ebola in the first place? Did any of you have first hand knowledge? I don’t think so! After Obama, his kids, his wife, and all of Congress and their families have been publicly injected by random strangers on the street…..then we’ll talk. Constant Vigilance! Don’t believe everything you see on the bought and paid for media!

    34. Has anyone thought of this from the standpoint of bugging out? What would you do when you get to your BOL and you aren’t quite sure if others in your group are infected or not? And they are not sure about your state of health?

      Or if you live out in the country. What will you do when you see 10 family members driving up the driveway towards what they perceive as a safe haven?
      I have thought of this before and I will tell you, my plan is not going to be popular with the family. They get a safe place to stay, but they will be quarantined in a couple enclosed areas of the barn by arrival date or asked to leave.

      • Old Guy says:

        Im a lone wolf and I don’t have ten family member who I would let come and mooch from me.

      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        M,seems a fair idea,assuming folks you have arriving on same basic page about survival in a tough time,they will understand,hellt is safer that way for them,you all get to help each other at a distance while making sure you are OK.

      • Buck says:

        In the barn they go for quarantine(the empty one) for over three weeks. Will leave provisions a safe distance away and they can come and get them.

        • Warchild Dammit! says:

          I would say especially if you know you have folks “visiting have some books/games ect. in resting area.I would also find safe things that new folks could do to help around whether firewood/keeping a longer distance eye out ect.Even with distance would be importent to make then feel part of the group/clan/community and help keep em from going stir crazy.

    35. Old Guy says:

      Ive never had a flu shot. I never purchased any health insurance. Im not likely to ever be vaccinated for anything ever again. If I die from ebola so what. We all will eventually die from something.

    36. notjam says:

      mandatory vaccine = over my dead body

      but first over my “empty” AK-47

    37. River Rat says:

      Looks like it’s getting close to the time for a big pot of Mexican Strawberry’s (Pinto Beans) with some Ham Hocks thrown in, gallon of sweet tea, few fried cornbread cakes, my M1A by my side and set back and watch all this for a while. You all come and join me if you wish (I’ll add some water to the beans lol).

      River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
      TSORIITA

    38. River Rat says:

      Chlorine Bomb:
      Wrap some chlorine up in a paper towel and tie it up tight. Next, tape it high on the inside of a Mayonnaise Jar. Fill the bottom of the jar up (don’t touch the paper!) with Pine-Sol. Screw the top back on and place it on the ground. When ready, knock the jar over and run. It will explode, and release a lot of chlorine gas, which is poisonous, and if ingested, is deadly.

      River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
      TSORIITA!

    39. White Fox says:

      Obama signed an amendment to an 2003 executive order to apprehend and detain people showing signs of respiratory illness. Combined with the CDC nationwide quarantine centers and JBAIDS issued to the National Guard in all states, they’re preparing for this. The borders are open (with reports of illegals from west Africa) and there’s no travel ban to and from the affected countries.

      Ebola can survive for days at room temperature outside a host, as a liquid or dried, and indefinitely when frozen to -70C. Over a hundred health workers have been infected, meaning it’s been escaping the best protective and containment efforts. Even though it’s only spread by contact with body fluids, the virus technically can be airborne to an extent and not only the Reston strain which is not fatal to humans. Pigs with Zaire were able to infect monkeys in close proximity with no direct contact. It was believed to be respiratory transmitted and I heard some of the medics trying to contain this outbreak got infected by the decontamination spraying that aerosoled the viral contamination on them. Avoiding ebola means don’t get too close and avoid contact with *all body fluids with the virus in any form of transmission*, including aerosoled droplets such as by sneezing or coughing from an infected person. That also includes public and shared surfaces that may be exposed if there’s an outbreak. Someone with ebola and sweaty palms uses a doorknob, you are now infected if you use that doorknob and unknowingly touch your face later. It only takes one.

      I’m not taking any ebola vaccine because I don’t trust government or the pharmaceutical industry, and both are more dangerous than ebola itself. Fear is used to control people, and there’s a lot of money to be made from it. This isn’t the first biological scare, I remember the great swine flu scare of 2009.

    40. Confederate says:

      I will refuse all govt. tainted vaccines. I will not sign up for obamacare or other govt. control programs. D.C. can stick it for all I care.

    41. ZenMonk says:

      tell EM’…

      “click-CLACK”

      “Their very Life is in their hands literally.”

      “We’s don’t do ZOG WHO CDC DHS DPH needles!”

      “It NOW WALK’S AWAY!

      …or It get’s the Hose again!”

      zm

    42. Kevin G says:

      One of these days there is a better world coming and I sure am ready! I am ready to get out of Babylon!

      Psalm 91 King James Version (KJV)

      91 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

      2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

      3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

      4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

      5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

      6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

      7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

      8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

      9 Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

      10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

      11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

      12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

      13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

      14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

      15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

      16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

    43. ponomo says:

      Barry definitely needs the Ebola-shot…after all, he originated in Kenya. He will take it where the sun doesn’t shine…as usual…from Holdher.

    44. Barn Cat says:

      Rush Limbaugh said on his show yesterday that the mainstream media has been downplaying the risks of ebola.

      Here’s one example from CNBC: “Ebola fears reach US shores: Hype or real threat?”

      US News and World Report says, “Views You Can Use: Ebola Panic Blown Out of Proportion”

      From the Boston Globe, “What are your chances of getting Ebola? It isn’t a particularly contagious disease, and in a developed country with strong health infrastructure, it probably wouldn’t spread much at all.”

      Even the Washington Times says this, “Ebola panic more lethal than the virus.”

      Ebola appears to be something the globalists plan to use against America. There won’t be a push to protect Americans even if the vaccine is a good one.

    45. Warchild Dammit! says:

      I will decline politely!

    46. George Washington says:

      “What Will You Do If They Make It Mandatory For All Americans To Take An Ebola Vaccine?”

      KILL who ever tries to force me to take it!

    47. MattW says:

      I find the video curious when the doctor gets out of the ambulance. Why is there no wheelchair to take him into the isolation area? Why risk him falling and scrapping his skin and then bleeding in the parking lot to potentially expose this virus to others? Why are they walking across a stone surface to enter the facility? This is bizarre. If this was suppose to be a top-treatment center for very serious diseases, we are in big trouble. The other possible scenario is this is all one big joke played on the American people.

    48. Burt Gummer says:

      I’ll drop a few silver coins into the Doc’s hands and tell him to record me as having taken the vaccine. I’ll not take it.

    49. Warchild Dammit! says:

      I love the last line in article,there is a outbreak millions will want whatever solutions are out there,my guess it is along the lines of “final solution”.

    50. PO'd Patriot says:

      I think I’ll set up a “swap meet”. I’ll go first and give you a hot lead injection and then you….well… bleed out.

    51. still playing in the mud says:

      spreads the same as mrsa. only an estimated 75,000 patients died from hospital mistakes last year. Whats to worry about!!

    52. JustSayin says:

      Back in 2008 when the “pandemic flu” was a big deal at the hospitals, we had lots of training in the what if scenario. Because there was a limited amount of vaccine the states were required to have a protocol Check out your states pandemic prepardness plan. Lots of interesting info. There is distribution plan in place. Officials, healthcare personell, the movers and shakers who make the world go round will be first in line. Us “insignificants” will be last in line for any legitimate vaccine. So if they try to line you up first…..something is wrong.

    53. rockelle says:

      I’ve got your mandatory vaccine right here mother fuckers!

    54. Last night, I received this account from an EMS “official in the Miami area. He believes that he/she has sufficient reason to think that there will be a false flag attack/terrorist event, in Miami, at a well publicized international soccer event. The attack could be planned for this coming September 11, 2014 (details below).

      The report of this threat is anecdotal and I considered not releasing it because there is no other confirming data at this time. I literally get two to three of these warnings per week and I do not report them unless I can verify the information to some degree that would warrant a high degree of reasonable suspicion. However, there are two factors which caused me to reconsider from filing this away in the trash.

      First, I know the identity and position of the person reporting these suspicions. This is a person of high rank and is well-known in the First Responder/law enforcement community. Second, the reputation of this EMS reporter warrants a call to others in a position to know to come forward and confirm, or debunk this claim.

      Please do not bother contacting the CSS on this matter unless you are willing to reveal your name and position on your report. Your name can be withheld from public release, but it must be made available, to the CSS, for the purposes of vetting the source of the information.

      Here is the communication:

      “Dear Dave,
      I listened to your show a few months back when you had on (former CIA) Dr. Jim Garrow. You asked him a question about what information he had about a possible false flag attack at Miami Marlins Stadium. I work as a (position redacted) for Miami Dade Fire Rescue. Our Department shares the stadium with the City of Miami Fire Rescue to provide off duty EMS service inside the stadium. We rotate between the departments every 3 months for services inside. The police departments have a different deal. The Miami Dade Police Department provides police service inside the stadium each event and the City of Miami Police patrol the outside of the stadium for each event.
      On Monday (date redacted to prevent detection by duty assignment- date was recent), 2014, I worked the Marlins game. I was assigned to a cart that is positioned to respond to half of the stadium. We basically sit in the cart for 5 hours waiting for any possible calls. We get to do a lot of people watching. I work approximately 6-12 games a year. On this night however something caught my eye. I have never seen any other police entity besides the two mentioned above work at the stadium. At approximately 7:45 pm while sitting in the cart, I noticed three individuals 2 men and 1 woman walk by with military bdu pants, a leg holstered sidearm weapon, and I believe another weapon holstered or on a strap. They had on black t shirts. I was very surprised at what I was seeing but trying to make eye contact with one of the men who saw me looking at him walk by. They walked quickly and I tried to absorb as much information about them as I could. He smiled like every other police officer does as they patrol by us. As he turned away I saw their identification tags hanging from their necks. Each tag had DHS in large letters on one side. I have never seen this before and I asked my partner that night if he/she had ever seen them before and he/she said no. He/she works several games a year.
      They walked by that one time and I never saw them again. Immediately upon seeing them I thought that this could be dealing with what you were trying to discuss with Dr. Garrow.
      I have never seen DHS represented anywhere in my __ years on the job here in Miami. Typically the Marlins stadium does not fill up very much.
      There is a soccer event on September 11 at the stadium which will most likely be a sellout because it is Real Madrid vs Barcelona. Professional soccer games have previously sold out a much larger Dolphins Sun Life Stadium. This date would be the only date I could see the Marlins having enough fans in the stadium to make a false flag event out of unless they do the actor thing like Boston (Marathon bombing). I normally do not send emails or call in to shows. I just had a bad feeling when I saw those three DHS agents walk by and I felt I had to share.
      I texted my spouse and friend immediately when I saw them so if that happened to be the night there was some kind of proof something was not right before hand.
      If you use this information for any further purposes please protect my name”. (End of Message)
      Message Summary: This official and his/her partner have worked numerous Marlin baseball games. The security personnel present at this one game was so out of place, from previous years of experience of working at the stadium, it made this person think of the Boston Marathon bombing. He/she was afraid something was going down that night and warned 2 significant persons in his/her life so there would be time-stamped proof. of his/her suspicions. When nothing happened on the night in question, the official looked at future dates for possible high profile targets and decided on the September 11th international soccer game which will be sold out. Are even our first responders becoming unduly paranoid, or is there something to worry about?

      Anyone with any further, credible evidence should contact the CSS and the local police.

    55. What I don’t get is if the tptb want population control then why the hell would they force everyone to get a vaccine. Wouldn’t only the people they want around just get the vaccine. I don’t mean to be rude but it kinda contradicts a lot of what most of us believe.

    56. Warchild Dammit! says:

      I would say if paranoid perhaps the “vaccine” has a 90% death rate with a micro tracking chip to keep track of 10% survivors to use as “workers”,but of course that would just be paranoid thinking.

    57. Double Guns says:

      “If anyone tries to forcibly inject myself
      or any member of my family with a vaccine
      or tries to inject us with anything else…

      I will forcibly inject them with lead.”

      ~ 1 Pissed Off American

    58. KY Mom says:

      CDC Refuses to Identify Where Previous Ebola Tests Originated

      “Tuesday evening the CDC confirmed to Breitbart News that six individuals in the United States had been tested for Ebola. Those tests came back negative, but the CDC would not identify the states where they originated.”

      Breitbart dot com

    59. KY Mom says:

      CDC Refuses to Identify Where Previous Ebola Tests Originated

      “Tuesday evening the CDC confirmed to Breitbart News that six individuals in the United States had been tested for Ebola. Those tests came back negative, but the CDC would not identify the states where they originated.”

      Breitbart dot com

    60. David says:

      When I can PERSONALLY give each and every one of the 535 members of Congress, each person in the White House, and every HHS, IRS, and every other agency THE shot, then I may consider it….NOT BEFORE!

      Any AMERICAN should evaluate if they will EVER get another government shot? Our government has proven beyond doubt they are incompetent, liars, thieves, and haters of this country. Why should we PERMIT them to stick us with God-knows-what….and they don’t like THAT word either (God)…..

    61. David says:

      When I can PERSONALLY give each and every one of the 535 members of Congress, each person in the White House, and every HHS, IRS, and every other agency THE shot, then I may consider it….NOT BEFORE!

      Any AMERICAN should evaluate if they will EVER get another government shot? Our government has proven beyond doubt they are incompetent, liars, thieves, and haters of this country. Why should we PERMIT them to stick us with God-knows-what….and they don’t like THAT word either (God)…..

    62. That’s not possible in the land of LIBERTY.

    63. Bill says:

      More than likely tell the official to “Kiss My As*’ then shoot the S.O.B.!

    64. Rarefied Snotress says:

      Now, now.. we haven’t even gotten any surprise imported cases. There’s no vaccine yet. and I can’t think of any vaccines that have been mandatory except for school or other forms of institutions.
      I know this board doesn’t believe it, but the government doesn’t want us all dead or sick It’s just not good for national security.
      If something so hideous as Ebola took root here, which I don’t believe it will, most people would want the vaccine if it seemed effective.
      Now you don’t have to jump on a soapbox with me,.. I almost died due to a vaccine already. I know what can happen when vaccines go wrong. But sometimes vaccines are worth the risk.

    65. Nam Marine says:

      NEVER gonna happen Dude !

     
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