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    We’re Watching You: Surveillance Expansion In the Land of the Free is Unprecedented In Human History

    Mac Slavo
    September 14th, 2011
    SHTFplan.com
    Comments (132)
    Read by 1,732 people

    “That capability at any time could be turned around on the American people and no American would have any privacy left, such [is] the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter.”

    “There would be no place to hide. If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology.”

    Senator Frank Church
    First Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee
    August 17, 1975

    Have you ever heard of a Yottabyte? To put this number into perspective consider the size of a terabyte, which is about the size of a typical modern hard drive. It can hold roughly 100 high definition DVD’s.

    A yottabyte is 1,099,511,627,776 terabytes – or over 1 trillion terabytes of information.

    This is important because according to a recent report from Politico, the National Security Agency (NSA), which is the security apparatus responsible for monitoring electronic communications across the globe, is building a new data warehousing center in Utah at the cost of $2 billion dollars. It will be housed in a one million square foot complex and be capable of storing at least one yottabyte of data.

    We pointed out the various ways that the U.S. government is monitoring everything you do when we penned Americans, Everything You Do Is Monitored. Some of the feedback we received at the time indicated that many Americans still didn’t believe that the NSA, CIA, FBI and other US government agencies had the capabilities to do such a thing.

    It turns out they do, and as Senator Church said in 1975, the technology even then was capable of imposing total tyranny. Imagine how far along they’ve come in 35 years:

    Sourced Via Steve Quayle:

    Somewhere between Sept. 11 and today, the enemy morphed from a handful of terrorists to the American population at large, leaving us nowhere to run and no place to hide.

    Around the country, in tall, windowless telecom company buildings known as switches, NSA technicians quietly began installing beam-splitters to redirect duplicate copies of all phone calls and email messages to secret rooms behind electronic cipher locks.

    There, NSA software and hardware designed for “deep packet inspection” filtered through the billions of email messages looking for key names, words, phrases and addresses. The equipment also monitored phone conversations and even what pages people view on the Web — the porn sites they visit, the books they buy on Amazon, the social networks they interact with and the text messages they send and receive.

    At the NSA, thousands of analysts who once eavesdropped on troop movements of enemy soldiers in distant countries were now listening in on the bedroom conversations of innocent Americans in nearby states.

    “We were told that we were to listen to all conversations that were intercepted, to include those of Americans,” Adrienne Kinne, a former NSA “voice interceptor,” told me. She was recalled to active duty after Sept. 11.

    “Some of those conversations are personal,” she said. “Some even intimate. … I had a real problem with the fact that people were listening to it and that I was listening to it. … When I was on active duty in ’94 to ’98, we would never collect on an American.”

    So much intercepted information is now being collected from “enemies” at home and abroad that, in order to store it all, the agency last year began constructing the ultimate monument to eavesdropping. Rising in a remote corner of Utah, the agency’s gargantuan data storage center will be 1 million square feet, cost nearly $2 billion and likely be capable of eventually holding more than a yottabyte of data — equal to about a septillion (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) pages of text.

    Full article: Politico

    The idea that the government knows our underwear size was just a joke back in the 1980′s. We’re not laughing anymore.

    If you place a phone call, send a text message, email someone, purchase anything with your debit card, travel through a toll booth, post a facebook message, or visit a web site, then you are being tracked.

    As we posted previously, everything you do is now monitored. Everything.

    The new data center being built by NSA will not only be capable of housing this information, but it will also be able to analyze, cross reference, profile and, of course, designate as a red flag anyone who is  algorithmically determined to be a threat to national security.

    As surveillance has expanded to include not just potential foreign enemies, but the American public as a whole, so too has the definition for who is or is not a terrorist. Every day the definitions are broadened, until one day everyone in this country will end up on a no-travel list and be deemed a domestic extremist in one form or another. The Patriot Act and directives currently being enacted by Homeland Security ensure this will be the outcome.

    Stalin’s NKVD (a KGB precursor) and Hitler’s  Schutzstaffel was child’s play compared to modern day surveillance capabilities.

    But this is America, so if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’ve got nothing to fear.

    Right?

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    Date: September 14th, 2011
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    1. Sam not sam says:

      “But this is America, so if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’ve got nothing to fear.”. Correct. At least until the definition of “wrong” is changed..

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      • the Wild Goose says:

        “Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!” Isaiah 5:20

        The definitions, they are a change’n!

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      • WickedOne says:

        The way to defeat technology is to not use it. Human intelligence, dead drops and book cyphers. They want to project the image of omnipresence. BS. Leaderless resistance is the way. Small independent cells. Watch the “Battle of Algiers”.

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      • Odd Questioner says:

        Some nitpicks for Mac:

        * The NKVD wasn’t a “precursor”, it was the USSR’s internal police force, and an ongoing separate enterprise all the way up to the 1991 Soviet collapse. Think of it as the Soviet counterpart to the FBI.

        (Meanwhile, the KGB dealt with external affairs, like the CIA did.)

        * Hitler’s Schutzstaffel (Literally, “Protection Corps”) were mainly military. They were Hitler’s attempt at a Praetorian Guard. Now the Gestapo was the separate internal investigative ‘police’ arm, and probably more the term you were looking for.

        As for the rest? A-yup – the US government can store a shitload of data. Can they weed through it effectively? Thankfully, not yet.

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        • Jiradog says:

          I run a government computer database for a local government tracking septic system maintenance and pump outs of septic systems. I am sure they can weed through it unfortunately.

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          • Odd Questioner says:

            It all depends on what you’re looking for.

            It’s drop-easy to write an application that monitors for objective factors like fluid level, pH, flow rates, and the like.

            It’s a whole other story when you’re looking to monitor things like motive and intent, or to analyze human activity.

            Also, have you *seen* typical CCTV coverage? The majority of the cameras are pure lo-res badly-focused crap.

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      • That Guy says:

        The most pathetic part of all of this “looking/ wstching/ recording??? People are still robbing banks, shooting people and committing other crimes every hour of every day… and many many crimes go unsolved.

        What the hell are “they” looking for if it is not to protect innocent people… or are they only interested in protecting some?

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        • Daisy says:

          “They” are not interested in protecting the public at large. “They” are only interested in protecting “themselves”. To “them” a mom and child shot in a robbery are little more than a blip on the screen. Try screwing the government and then you will find out exactly how much “they” know.

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        • WestVaFolks says:

          Right-o. Bank has security cameras out the wazoo, and some guy in bright football jersey, blue jeans and white sneakers pretends he has a gun, tries to rob it, flees on foot and the police can’t find him??? (rant coming) And why don’t employees go after this goof? People on the street? ANYBODY who sees someone running from a bank with a bag, shout, trip him, tackle him, do SOMETHING. The bad elements out there are realizing that people are scared stiff and don’t want to get involved. This gives them even MORE gumption to try and pull off more and more robberies. Didn’t happen nearly as much when I was a girl. Realize people weren’t as desperate then as some are today (drugs, gambling, no jobs, etc.) but IMHO the average joe had more courage and a greater unwillingness to let their stores/banks be invaded. FIGHT BACK!!!

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          • Plain Old American says:

            Why? The way the goobermint is inflating the currency he won’t be able to afford a coffee by the time he gets to Dutch Bros.

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          • sheeple says:

            In the United Kingdom self defense is a crime. If you are willing to raise a hand to defend yourself then you might someday be willing to raise a hand against your government masters. The important thing in the New World Order is for the peasants to understand that they belong to the state. Their body and life is property owned by the state. Therefore, only the state can defend their property. Point being, they are inculcating that mentality in the U.S. as well. “Leave it to the authorities” is the common refrain. Self reliance, and, indeed, the very notion of “individuals” must be destroyed in order for them to have their harmonious one world government.

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    2. Jordan says:

      Encryption for everything from now on. I suspect that at some point, encryption software that doesn’t have a NSA back door of some sort will be banned because “terrorists (us) might use it”.

      They used that same excuse back in the 90′s to ban exporting strong crypto in web browsers. Clinton finally repealed it so people outside the US could get browsers with strong crypto. Yay gov’t.

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      • Inronkey.com. For the important stuff…..

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      • truecrypt says:

        TrueCrypt is one of the only encryption software programs that can be remotely trusted. It is open source and offshore (European). Any encryption product in the U.S. must, by law, have back doors in it and be reversable.

        Hence why U.S. citizens are not allowed to work on certain open source projects involving encryption.

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    3. Solon says:

      There comes a moment and a time when a threshold is reached what cannot be defeated externally is defeated internally that time will come we are not there…yet.

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    4. REB says:

      ….paranoia runs deep… into your mind it will creep…it starts when youre always afraid…step outta line the man come and take you away..its time we stop children whats that sound everybody look whats goin down…

      Anybody remember who sang that?…Dont know why it just came into my head,havent heard it in a long time.

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    5. Beefcake says:

      I knew a guy back in the late ’90s who jokingly would say “Allah, bomb, M16, nuke” after every cell phone conversation thinking it would trip the NSA into wasting it’s time monitoring his phone. Now I guess such shenanigans is unnecessary since everyone is being watched 24/7 regardless of their actions.

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    6. Survivor in waiting says:

      There are so many laws on the books both federal, state, and local, that every American in this country (yes that includes your kids selling lemonade) is breaking at least one if not more laws per day. The definition of wrong does’nt need to be changed, we are already somewhat jailbait waiting to happen. Ive always laughed a little inside when I hear some of the people I know saying “if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’ve got nothing to fear”. I just tell them yea, today Im alright, but Im sure tommorrow they’ll change the law, then were both in trouble.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Skull candy

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      • Gods Creation says:

        SIW,

        Everyone has been forced into presumed violations of private corporate law. I may have inadvertently broken many of them, but who cares. It’s not MY law. It’s not my corp.

        The only way you can break a real law is to violate the rights or property of another Man.

        You should really be careful as to what you call Law.

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    7. Michael Westin says:

      It was Buffalo Springfield back in the sixties.

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    8. an old broad in Canada says:

      Jefferson Airplane

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      • Billiam says:

        Look what’s happening out in the streets
        Got a revolution Got to revolution
        Hey I’m dancing down the streets
        Got a revolution Got to revolution
        Ain’t it amazing all the people I meet
        Got a revolution Got to revolution
        One generation got old
        One generation got soul
        This generation got no destination to hold
        Pick up the cry
        Hey now it’s time for you and me
        Got a revolution Got to revolution
        Come on now we’re marching to the sea
        Got a revolution Got to revolution
        Who will take it from you
        We will and who are we
        We are volunteers of America

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    9. Sarge says:

      There’s three hundred million of us…I’d say they’re outnumbered.

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    10. Springfield….sorry

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    11. God's Cremation says:

      The corp has always been watching us. That is what the corp does. The corp will watch us in our corporations and then corporatize the corporations for corporate profit. When the corp does this they are just being all corpy and stuff. DANG that corp!

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    12. Bloodyfellow says:

      It’s time to start fighting back folks, “put up or shut up!”

      Show up at your town hall…ask questions? get organised with you neighbors. Fight for you rights or lose them!!!
      Get to know your (County Sheriff) but, you don’t have to tell them everything you are doing.

      Your about to get hit, did you see it coming? maybe…maybe not. Hope you all have been doing more prepping then blogging about prepping.

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      • REB says:

        We had a small victory recently….seems our Township had a ordainence saying flagpoles couldnt be over 8′ tall…I have one which is more than that,Sheriff asked me if I was aware of it and I said No,I really hadnt heard of it but I wasnt interested
        and he knew I wouldnt be taking her down as the ordainence didnt overrule my God given rights to do what I want to on my ground….well a company in the twp decided to put up a 50′W/A US federal flag and was told NO!…there was some back and forth and the supervisors finally ruled to strike the ordainence as being unenforceable…Sheriff was by and was laughing as he relayed the news to me because on my flag pole has flown for many years a Rebel battle flag…he said he was glad they caved cause he knew why that flag is up there…she flies there because of them…it was a fight he didnt want to have to get into…like I said small but in principle I think very important!

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        • Bloodyfellow says:

          REB:

          Good for brother! I love the (Stars & Bars) as well keep them flying proudly. My Grandmother still has a rose bush that was saved from her great-great-grandmother from the Civil War after there home was burnt. The rose bush was the only thing left after the Yankee’s looted and burnt every-thing they had. Only two women and three children were living at the farm at the time that happened (August 3 1864). Loot and burn women and children out of there homes was the policy of the day by the Union Army. The date of the event given was from a court house record book.

          I promise that will not happen again!

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          • Bloodyfellow says:

            Crap! meant (Good for you brother!)

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          • Homeland Security says:

            I know I’m nitpicking, but the “Stars and Bars” is the First National Flag of the Confederacy, not the battle flag. What so many people call the battle flag isn’t really even the battle flag. The battle flag was square. The rectangular flag is the naval variation of the battle flag.

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          • Bloodyfellow says:

            Homeland Security:

            “I know I’m nitpicking, but the “Stars and Bars” is the First National Flag of the Confederacy, not the battle flag. What so many people call the battle flag isn’t really even the battle flag. The battle flag was square. The rectangular flag is the naval variation of the battle flag.”

            You are totaly right! and thanks for pointing that out.

            Bloodyfellow-

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        • Reb, I read yesterday the 90 year old vet that wouldn’t take down the flag pole w. flag has been given an okay for it…by the HOA…too much pressure as that story went nationwide with his awards and valor earned..

          I would screw up his achievements if I tried to tell them, but they were awesome.

          “This nation will stay the land of the free as long as we are the home of the brave.

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          • okay–you know what I meant…yes, you can’t earn valor….and I can’t edit..so you still get the point!!

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          • REB says:

            JJ…I understand completely …. I agree he showed valor of a kind not too common nowadays,govt busybodies nosing into everything and folks get scared because theyve been conditioned to respect the law and the people who make/enforce them…but when the law becomes nothing but the tyrants will or a big hammer in their hands we gotta say NO!…and just for the record Ill tell you it aint fun when theyre telling you to do something and you look them in the eye and tell them to make me,been there,dont enjoy it but I gotta respect me even if no-body else does and when youre right you know it down deep in your guts…I think most here understand what I mean.

            Thanks Bloodyfellow!

            HS…its okay to nitpick :) its a varient of the CSA battle flag…I have a first confederate also and I use the Bonnie Blue on occasion but Im kinda fond of that “battle flag”…have a great day all!

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    13. Fatty says:

      information monitored…sure I’d believe it, information saved…they’re gonna need a few more of those yottas.

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    14. Anonymous says:

      red or blue pill

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    15. NameHere says:

      Should Faking a Name on Facebook Be a Felony?
      Congress contemplates draconian punishment for Internet lies.

      Imagine that President Obama could order the arrest of anyone who broke a promise on the Internet. So you could be jailed for lying about your age or weight on an Internet dating site. Or you could be sent to federal prison if your boss told you to work but you used the company’s computer to check sports scores online. Imagine that Eric Holder’s Justice Department urged Congress to raise penalties for violations, making them felonies allowing three years in jail for each broken promise. Fanciful, right?

      Think again. Congress is now poised to grant the Obama administration’s wishes in the name of “cybersecurity.”

      http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903285704576562294116160896.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

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      • kevin says:

        Can we make it illegal. and have it a felony for Holder to lie to congress, about fast and furius? Oh, it is. All prosecution is and will be selective!

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      • Plain Old American says:

        Will he lock himself up for the phony / forged birth certificates?

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      • REB says:

        Theres a country song about a guy making up a life on Myspace (I think)anyhow how can a bunch of liars demand honesty!?
        They have to know people are making up all sorts of BS and putting it out there online….besides everybody with a bit of horse sense knows you cant lie to a liar and you cant steal from a thief so other than they want to use anything you put online against you in their admirality courts(think kangaroo)and in the file they are compiling on every living thing…why would it be an issue?…gotta laugh or youll die crying,you just cant make this stuff up!

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    16. Homeland Security says:

      I think the government has overloaded their ability to process what info they amass. The feds can’t get the info to human analysts fast enough. They probably can’t prevent anything, they can only go back and see what evidence they have after the fact. Unless, they bring in SkyNet!

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      • NeoIsolationist says:

        Disagree. I’m a database administrator by profession. I’ve got some experience with data warehousing. All you have to do is create a cube that pulls back certain criteria, and the db will respond with a result set. Not all records in the result set will be those of law-breakers or perceived trouble-makers, but fitting the criteria of query could be analyzed for wrong-doing or supposed wrong-doing. Even with a database as large as a yottabyte, a good query in a well normalized and well-indexed db could return a relatively small recordset quickly. Next steps, run the query automatically as job once every 15 minutes. send the result set or notification of results and where to look, to a team of analysts. Could probably done fairly quickly. Those business intelligence types are pretty good at that sort of thing.

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        • Homeland Security says:

          Good to know. We can only hope they work as if they are old time patronage workers.

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        • So you could enter key words: theft..steal…team…lie….embezzle…murder…lesbian…gay…cheat…adultery..pornography;
          and EVERY member of CONgress would print out???

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          • NeoIsolationist says:

            No. it’s not really like that. For example. I can build a query that’s designed to pull back murderers for example, and validate it works against a control group, let’s say an actual database of convicts. For example, I can build the query to analyze their ‘mean’ life style and circumstances of this criminal type at the time of their crimes. from there, I can run this query against the yottabyte db and see how many records I pull back. Out of the result set, very, very few will actually commit such a crime, and most records even upon cursory examination would be ignored. Now take this example and apply it to the demographics associated with recent terrorists, and then run it against the yottabyte db.

            start philosphical rant…
            that’s the sort of thing it ‘should’ do. Of course, unless there are adequate controls and protections, it could assist tyranny. Further to this, ‘orwellian’ systems are not orwellian just based on what they can do IMHO. They become Orwellian based on how they are used and what type of civil protections there are, or not.
            End philosphical rant…

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    17. Anonymous says:

      Where is my AC/DC T-shirt. Boobies. Un-cage the girls. Show me the kitty cat.

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    18. European American says:

      I’d love to take out a camera with some “double ought”. A drone would even be better.

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      • Anonymous says:

        How about a Happy Meal.

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      • Newbie says:

        Has anyone noticed lately the remote operated cameras law enforement has start putting up around their communities? These are mounted on traffic lights and around rail yards, and on Broad Band and Celluar towers. In L.A., San Diego and Sacramento etc there are loads of them, I see them when I travel for work, these look different then the sensors that EMS use to change the traffic lights in emergencies. The cameras by the rail yard are relativly higher on its on mount, and judging by the way they look, these can rotate and elevate.. I unfortunatly live in CA :(

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        • WestVaFolks says:

          We have them here (and in surrounding cities/towns). They’re on the horizontal poles over the streets mounted next to the traffic lights. Supposedly used to trap speeders and red-light runners. Okaaay…

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        • whatshesaid says:

          New hardware popping up daily in intersections all over our metro area in the heartland. Alvarion plates are being mounted on buildings as well. Even parking lots in long-abandoned commercial properties are sporting brand new lights on very tall poles all over town. Surveillance equip is being added to cell towers daily!
          AND ON BILLBOARDS! Alvarion has some frightening youtube videos “We’re everywhere YOU are!” “We’re on YOUR wavelength” New towers pop up over-night or are (raised) higher. I feel like a lab rat.

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          • WestVaFolks says:

            Looked up Alvarion on Wikipedia. Home office is in TEL AVIV!!! And these people are installing surveillance in USA??? Does not sound good to these old ears…

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          • whatshesaid says:

            I forgot the two dozen or more new civil defense bullhorns that have been installed in the last couple of months and the 360 degree cameras going in everywhere. And the street lights are being elevated to new heights. Things, they be a changing!

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        • Plain Old American says:

          I used to live in Cali. One day as I was motoring down the freeway I just kept looking at the concertina wire surrounding the overhead road signs and said to myself: “Self, why are you talking to yourself?” No, really, I just realized that I was incarcerated but they hadn’t told us. So we loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly….er actually the Northwest. Still a police state but you can set up some truly awesome bug out strategies.

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    19. Stone says:

      Friends, please read. I work in a very large retail center in Southern California. Numerous times, I have noticed cars driving up and down the aisles, aimlessly, and these cars had little square boxes both in front of, and behind the passenger compartment. These boxes had transparent lenses pointed outboard, and were obviously cameras. I notified security and they stopped a car 2 weeks ago that fit the description I had given them. The driver explained that he was with a vehicle repossession agency, and was here to search for cars with delinquent loans to be towed away. Made sense to me….until today.
      Our security guard came by and told me that he had stopped another car, driving aimlessly, and noticed that HIS car had cameras mounted INSIDE the rear passenger compartment, and were only visible when he rolled his windows down. He ALSO said he was with a repossession agency, but also volunteered that his company’s’ database was tied in with HOMELAND SECUTRITY AND THE FBI.
      Now, I am a patriot and am all about the defence of the United States. But this seems to me to be surveillance of the masses. Orwells’ 1984.
      To those who can, watch large parking lots for cars (or trucks, for that matter) driving up and down every row and obviously NOT looking for a place to park. I sincerely hope I’m wrong, but I’m under the impression that big brother is on a mission to know more about you than you want them to know.

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    20. VRF says:

      there are a bunch of traffic cams in the next city over near me,,most of them defunct..they leave them up to screw with thise that dont know they havent been fixed or maintained for years..some have been vandalized, spray paited on the lense or glass in front of the lense

      I sat and watched one of them to see if it would flash or act on a traffic violator one day and it wasnt working at all..probably cost too much for them to just take it down, but with all the other cameras in the area, maybe they dont need the old style one any longer?

      I have cameras on my property..and all fed into a hard drive for a month of safe keeping before its over written, so im watching them too

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    21. rachel says:

      it’s big corp thaqt has more interest in your shopping habits than big brother. all designed to sell you something.

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    22. Kevin2 says:

      Does life imitate art or does art imitate life? Enemies of the State with Will Smith and Gene Hackman may have embellished the capabilities somewhat but watching that and NCIS it’s kinda creepy.

      The good news is you can call 911 and get medical help or police ASAP if you need it. That comfortable “warm and fuzzy” feeling tends to smooth out the creepy feeling.

      Technology has always been a two edge sword. It’s great in good hands and terrible in bad hands.

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    23. Were screwed big time says:

      Were all screwed! The beast is rearing his ugly head.

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    24. Homeland Security says:

      Could be license plate readers like the kind the police have. Your license plates could possibly be scanned several times a day automatically. The police don’t have to enter your numbers manually. So, if you engage in resistance, change those plates frequently.

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    25. Daisy says:

      At the risk of sounding like I wear a tinfoil hat, there’s a million different ways that we are tracked. To name a few:

      ~ Use of debit or credit cards
      ~ On the internet
      ~ Through the Dept of Motor Vehicles via cameras and vehicle licensing
      ~ By the specifics of WHAT we purchase, especially in large quantities
      ~ By our cellphones
      ~ By satellite – Google Earth, anyone?
      ~ By passports – notice that they all have barcodes now?
      ~ Monitoring use of utilities (recently some grow ops were targeted because of the amount of electricity used – I’m not pro-marijuana but I bet there are other things that can be figured out through electrical consumption
      ~ By mandated registration of every darn thing you own: guns, vehicles, homes, boats, land – you name it

      The list goes on and on and on. It’s very hard to fly under the radar now.

      Pay cash. That’s the only advice I have.

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      • silver bean says:

        Yeah passports. A couple of years ago my wife and I travelled internationally. When we returned we went through Customs at DFW airpost. As we stood there our passports were scanned by the employee. I casually asked if scanning would show a bunch of information about us. He replied, “Sir, you would be shocked if you knew how much information I have right here about you.” I asked if I could see it. “No.”

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        • Daisy says:

          Scary stuff. It makes me cringe everytime I have to show my passport to some overpayed, undertrained yahoo at any given customs checkpoint.

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          • WestVaFolks says:

            How about the luggage examiners? Friend of mine was traveling to West coast, had an expensive set of 12 professional harmonicas in wooden case with felt lining. Was concerned about them setting off the metal detectors so put them in his checked luggage. When he arrived at destination and unpacked, wooden box was GONE. He called the airline and was asked if he could PROVE he put them in suitcase before he left. He wasn’t married and no one saw him do it, so…no. Kiss $1200+ goodbye.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Get some rest Daisy, you’re looking a little tired.

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          • Daisy says:

            That’s crazy, WestVa! How on earth could someone be expected to PROVE what they packed! I’m starting to think that every single person that works in an airport is either a crook or a perv – or both!

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          • Anonymous says:

            Anonymous: Jesus Christ, and you think I’m reckless? When I fly, I’ll have you know that my crew and my plane come first.
            Daisy: Well, I am going to finish my sentence, Lieutenant. My review of your flight performance was right on.
            Anonymous: Is that right?
            Daisy: That is right, but I held something back. I see some real genius in your flying, Maverick, but I can’t say that in there. I was afraid that everyone in the tax trailer would see right through me, and I just don’t want anyone to know that I’ve fallen for you.

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    26. Gods Creation says:

      The only way to be truly safe is to conduct all business with gov corp under a fictional name, such as a trust or LLC. Adopt a pseudonym to use while acting as it’s trustee or officer and only sign documents with that name.

      When it comes to protecting your privacy, only YOU can make the laws.

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    27. Yoda says:

      A yottabyte is 1,099,511,627,776 terabytes – or over 1 trillion terabytes of information.

      WTF!!!

      you need to be a Jedi Master to process a Yottabyte of data

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    28. Copout says:

      Check out ex- kgb Yuri Bezmenoz on youtube, explains how brainwashing in American was incorporated!

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    29. Copout says:

      OPPS: America

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    30. Copout says:

      A must see folks, this will tell you exactly where we are, in this country IMHO!

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    31. the_isle says:

      Hypothetically speaking, of course, anyone care to venture guess as to how many of the 330+/- citizens living in the US are willing, able and capable of assembling into an organization who’s primary objective is to uphold and defend the US Constitution against all enemies be they foreign or domestic? I know that’s what we expect from our men and women in uniform but I have no idea which side the of the fence military personnel will fall on when the SHTF.

      We’re under attack from within our own borders already and for all of the big talk I read or hear from people who proclaim to be ready to fight for their freedom I have a question: Why haven’t you done so already? We’ve been watching our country being taken right from under our noses for decades and havent done anything about it except allow it continue. We’re a nation of self-centered individuals with very few common ties with our neighbors or in many cases our own families.

      Certainly without some kind of leadership and organization groups both large and small will perish when facing a well prepared organized well funded opposition. I see well-meaning words being thrown out on sites like this but the extreme passivity and/or indifference Americans, including myself, have displayed while being robbed blind by govt and business alike for decades makes me very skeptical of our ability to collectively stand up and fight for our freedoms. I can envision small pockets of resistance taking form when it’s things get really serious but by that time it will be too late.

      The time to mount a resistance is now but how? I personally don’t know one person or even have a family member who is on the same page with me regarding how seriously close we are to TEOTWAWKI and I know I’ve got no chance of being able to save myself much less my loved ones who refuse to believe what seems obvious to me unless I/we are part of a much larger group of like-minded individuals. Does anyone know what I’m talking about? Thoughts?

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      • NeoIsolationist says:

        well, the system is virtuous. What I mean is that with elections every two years and (still) the rule of law, the cost at this point of violence exceeds the cost of peaceful change through the electoral mechanism. I’m preparing for the worst, to include loss of the utilities for a while within the context of a currency collapse. But I’m ‘hoping’ for the best a la peaceful change in the voting booth. I think that’s the general mindset.

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      • Martial Law Really?? says:

        So when and where are you willing to risk it all?, You wanted to know my ties or common ground; well its for my children and your children and every innocent out there who doesn’t have a choice in the matter. what you should ASK is ” Who is willing to Martyr Themselves for Freedom”, go ahead and talk til you are blue in the face it will only get you so far ( not to be offensive). Self-Centered may be the correct description for some of us but are you taking the lead?, or better yet who here is willing??? we have no leader direct to say, we have only the information we’ve have found or pieced together but only use it in the web sites or in speeches. No one wants to through the first punch, but will have too if backed into a corner, or unless your touched in the head, and maybe everyone waiting it out. But while we may wait they keep making the moves, polices, reforms, acts of treason, and so forth , so the only way to prove a point really is through action not words is what you say. So basically what I am saying is if you want get down to it; to move a rock you don’t just sit there and watch it, you move it, that’s the only way we can fix this country, but the rock we see here can’t be moved by just one person alone. Hence are you ready to be a Martyr?

        Example #1:
        Perpetrators, collaborators, bystanders, victims: we can be clear about three of these categories. The bystander, however, is the fulcrum. If there are enough notable exceptions, then protest reaches a critical mass. We don’t usually think of history as being shaped by silence, but, as English philosopher Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing at all.” So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke’s observation.

        Example #2
        Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again in the scriptures from the Bible

        ref the link below:

        http://www.padfield.com/1997/goodmen.html

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    32. Homeland Security says:

      Most of the people that I spoke with who have studied resistence against the PTB, suggest that to defeat the PTB, the PTB must make a fatal mistake. We think the PTB are very close to making that mistake. However, peaceful, passive resistence works for now. Civil disobedience is next. Then, after that, we go for the whole ball of wax.

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      • Newbie says:

        @ H.S.

        But once they( T.P.T.B.) make their fatal mistake, who’s to say they don’t auto coarse correct and lock it all down? Wouldn’t it be best to say the fuse was lit for the powder keg that has built up over the years? I agree with your statement but I believe one of their troll plants will set the rest off and we preppers or patriotic Americans, or innocents will get the blame when they call “CHECK”. Anyone feel free to correct me, I may be new but not that new, but this is just an opinion or observation so I may be wrong but the first troll who went off to early was Jared Lee Loughner, and the T.P.T.B. are now having to move the chess pieces faster then they wanted which is why we need not turn on each other but spot their pawns. Like I said it just an opinion to possibly support your statement

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        • Homeland Security says:

          Jared Lee Loughner may be the worst example to use. I think he is actually just insane. From what I could read he is not a patriot type. His friends described him as liberal. The mistake for the PTB, will be loss of control of the economy. It will be self evident. “Patriots” will get the blame anyway. The street commies are already organized and prepared. They also will have to be dealt with. Happy hunting.

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          • I have read of spray now used by the police and military that makes you vomit–not tear gas.
            Well, so be it, but unless they distribute that by plane, there’s no way they can get all of us at once?
            There will be blood if TPTB continue destroying our food supply. Mama and Papa bears will fight hard for their cubs—and using those tactics will sure alienate the LEO–ya think??

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    33. the_isle says:

      Correction-”330+/- million”

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    34. KY Mom says:

      How the Government is Pushing the Marxist Agenda in America
      by a retired General
      http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america

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      • Copout says:

        KY Mom: Thank you for the video link!

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      • Bible Thumper says:

        Jerry Boynkin is a Knights of Malta (think: Roman Catholic Church suck-up who basically “pledges allegiance” to the Pope). Boynkin is being paraded in front of Evangelical Christians as a good guy exposing TPTB, yet he, Rick Joyner, The Oak Iniative, etc. have an agenda of their own. Google: Boynkin Joyner Knights of Malta… some creepy photos of them online in their Malta regalia (good report I read recently about it from “Understand The Times” news alert which linked to another more-detailed article/photos).

        Most of these type of guys who seem to “know it all” re TPTB & are traveling around the church circuits are suspect… always dig deeper, check them out first. Barton, Beck, Chuck Missler, etc.

        Many are also members of the secretive CNP (Council for National Policy) in which they hobnob with others CNP members who are Freemasons, KluKluxKlan, CFR, Neo-Nazis, Illuminati, etc.

        Truly, “Let no man deceive you,” as the Lord said.

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    35. Entity says:

      The technology for data collection has been in place for a long time.
      The technology for data storage is ballooning in capacity.
      You had better believe that technology to aid analysis is a lot better than everyone thinks as well.
      The only thing going for the rest of us, is that somewhere in the loop there has to be a human element, and that human is bandwidth limited.
      Are they trying to get around this fact? why on earth would they not?

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    36. REB says:

      I think Neoisolationist and HS have it right…alot of people know things are wrong but its hard to just up and shoot someone even when youre right,in America we just havent operated that way in a very long time and people are conditioned through upbringing and training to respect the law,thats a hard thing to overcome(ones mind)

      That and who wants to do the deed and then find that the people around him are all sheep…all pointing the finger at him and making him/her the badguy…hardly worth it to most patriots I suspect.

      I have asked the same question many times over the years so I understand….I guess hope springs eternal that somehow without killing each other and losing all we have we can restore this republic using the built in methods the founders intended…sadly those methods have be damaged and usurped by the very ones it was intended to defeat…
      Lets all pray that in a longshot we can do that because the alternative wont be pretty and in war the good and the innocent tend to be the ones who get eaten alive whilst the evil that started it all seems to go on unscathed…once that shot is fired theres no pulling it back…no going back…itll be for keeps…lets hope that each of us if called upon will find ourselves willing and able to do what needs to be done and to stand till its finished….just my thoughts on it Newbee.

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      • Surprised says:

        @ REB

        I hope for peace as well but but words don’t stand up against might…I think it’s getting past that which is sad, and like you I pray that we shall overcome peacefully but Martial Law Really?? said it best:

        ” if you want get down to it; to move a rock you don’t just sit there and watch it, you move it, that’s the only way we can fix this country, but the rock we see here can’t be moved by just one person alone. Hence are you ready to be a Martyr?

        Example #1:
        Perpetrators, collaborators, bystanders, victims: we can be clear about three of these categories. The bystander, however, is the fulcrum. If there are enough notable exceptions, then protest reaches a critical mass. We don’t usually think of history as being shaped by silence, but, as English philosopher Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing at all.”

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        • REB says:

          No argument from me…I was simply attempting to respond to the general question of why people havent retaliated with force by this time against the powers that be…I did my best to give one answer….thanks!

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      • NeoIsolationist says:

        Thanks. I agree it looks like the PTB are starting to loose control of the economy. And it also feels like they’ve failed to intimidate the populace (TSA is a temporal issue). My point is, I get the feeling that if this thing does get hot and the commie types start something violent, the response from the citizens will be pretty immediate. Just a feeling I have. Can’t back it up with anything. Just seems like the left made a miscalculation by focusing on HC and Dodd/Frank, and didn’t go where they needed to (after 1st and second amendment)… That delay gave us an electoral cycle to put in some conservatives and there’s a considerable push-back. Don’t be concerned about regulations. That goes away next (conservative) administration.. The push I see from the left interms of regulations and noise seems to be panic. I’d put it at about 90 percent that we get an election, and a landslide at that. In spite of all, I’m somehow optimistic… Somehow… Any of you guys on FreedomConnector? check that out and maybe you’ll understand.

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    37. redgypsy says:

      One word everyone is looking for is
      “Panopticon” I am not sure I spelling it right.
      It was an idea forward by Jeremy Grantham I think in the 19th century I have given you enough info to find on it anyway.

      Via Con Dios

      Red

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      • redgypsy says:

        More info here since I spelled everything wrong

        RED

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

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      • actually... says:

        That’s exactly what it is, and it’s by design. I have spoken to FBI criminologists and this is exactly the sort of “self policing” society that they envison. They want everyone to know they are being watched at all times. Step out of line, get hammered into the ground. They want you to have access to illicit narcotics, because if you buy them it gives them an excuse to bring you into their system and “rehabilitate you” into a more obedient member of their society.

        And while it is a touchy subject, it is well known that various law enforcement agencies have a virtual monopoly on web based child porn. Virtually every single one of those sites is a sting operation. They WANT you to visit so they can hammer you into the ground. The point is weeding out the defective slaves, those that step out of line must be made an example of to maintain order.

        This is quite literally what an FBI criminologist told me, to my face.

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    38. eeder says:

      hey perfect …. if the lousy, vile , putrid, evil NWO pricks are reading now, GO TO HELL! hahaha you reading this boy…. tell ya what .. how about you come and get me… I DARE YOU!i’ll give ya something for your files… should be very entertaining!

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      • stages says:

        You’re in an early stage of realizing just how deep the shit you’re in really is. First is the arrogant, mocking, doubtful response you exhibit. You don’t really believe you’re being monitored, you just think you “might” be. So you write little messages to your babysitters.

        Pray you never realize just how real the surveillace society is. Because that will mean it has directly impacted you, via a policeman at your door or place of business.

        Until then, sure, keep mocking them and writing little notes. But they ARE watching, do not doubt it.

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    39. TruthInDangerousTimes says:

      This article is not an exaggeration. This is all completely true. If you don’t want to believe it, I don’t blame you, I wish it weren’t true and I naively ignored this reality for longer than I should have. America is a high tech surveillance based police state.

      Let me tell you who they are monitoring:

      1. “Watch lists”, of “suspected terrorists”, protesters, “overly politically active persons”, “persons of interest”, and other malcontents as declared in secrecy by the federal government

      2. Registered sex offenders and many other classes of known criminal, despite their sentence having been served

      3. Anyone that has or HAS EVER HAD a government security clearance

      4. Various people in the financial sector

      5. Various other people that you will have to speculate on, but basically anyone that might say or do anything that they would care about

      And of course they also use all sorts of fancy machine learning algorithms to match on phrases, words, etc. to flag communications for further inspection. This is one way that people end up in the above watch lists, which are ever expanding.

      It is not technically feasible to store all data transmitted across the internet. However, it is possible to perform deep packet inspection and search traffic on the wire, saving a relatively small sampling that matches pre-determined criteria (see the watch list examples).

      With the surveillance apparatus in place, it is relatively simple to add new persons to the watch lists at will. At that point all of their telecommunications activity will be recorded (internet, cell phone, land line, etc.). If they try to evade by using “throw away phones”, then you simply expand the surveillace net to include all of their known associates. Naturally you do not need a warrant to do any of this in the American police state.

      Want to be free? Good luck. They also do facial recognition with quite advanced software, if they REALLY want to find you. If you simply want to avoid being tracked as a “low man” on the totem pole you need to do the following:

      1. NEVER use a credit card or ATM card for the duration of the time you wish to be free. Use cash only.

      2. Purchase and learn to use a proper radio frequency detector to find any wireless GPS tracker that may be attached to your vehicle

      3. Carefully physically inspect the undercarriage of your vehicle for GPS tracking devices that must be removed physically (no signals to detect)

      4. Don’t give out your ID to anyone for any reason (not your real one anyway, fake IDs are recommended).

      5. No on-star, no cell phone, no signals of any kind transmitting from your vehicle. GPS can be used but your route will be recorded internally which can be recovered later by whoever.

      6. No phone calls, emails, or anything else about your plans. If they know where you’re going and when, it will be simple to put a physical surveillance team on you. Ever been tailed by 2 FBI agents across state lines to a ski resort whereupon they stalk you around the premises? I have.

      Bottom line, anything that transmits a signal will betray you. I’m sitting here wondering if they’ll bother tracking this post back (of course I am using multiple proxies over an encrypted stream), despite the fact that I kept it strictly public domain. Oh well, who wants to live forever?

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    40. socialengineering says:

      Surveillance, and awareness thereof, has a severe psychological impact on the victim. It ends up being a form of mind control. The victim becomes afraid, constantly afraid. Afraid to even leave the house, afraid to make a phone call, afraid to speak their mind. That is ultimately the point – to stifle free speech without having to resort to the sorts of tactics employed by those regimes we claim moral superiority over.

      For most people it is better to not be aware of the high tech surveillace based American police state. There is, after all, nothing they can do about it. It is the rare individual that will both have the means, and desire to escape such a state of affairs. After all, leaving a country is expensive and if one has the resources to do so, they must be doing fairly well in the country they are in. Few would leave behind a comfortable life, even one under constant surveillance, for the possibility of liberty in a foreign land.

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    41. Katie Caliente says:

      Well, I, big wall flower that I am!
      Applied for a job spying on you all.
      I didn’t get it, but Id say generally what you’ll have to deal with is fairly moral people who could care less about most of what any of you do.

      I find the zeal and fun-loving manner upon which I’m spied upon disturbing.

      I tossed all my electronics out, like cell phones, etc.
      Obviously, I have the Internet.

      What can they do?

      I think they messed up when they allowed us to know they were spying.

      Basically, they get to watch us all die, on camera, in hidef.

      Unable to help, i might add.

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    42. Hereing says:

      How about the Executive Order 6102?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
      If a new gold standard will be introduced I wonder isn’t this system prefect to execute the new executive order?

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    43. Google Thomas Drake. He explains why no matter who you are, you should be concerned. A whole lot of NSA employees went into the private sector and became millionaires after 9/11. They are more interested in making a security mountain out of your collective private molehills in order to get more contracts and tax dollars than if you are guilty or innocent of anything.

      (See also my blog for where we are in terms of civil liberties. Been quite the trip).

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