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    ObamaScare: Our Entire Economy is About to Get Hit With a Sledgehammer *Micro Documentary*

    Mac Slavo
    November 27th, 2013
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    With the Patient Affordable Care Act now actively being integrated into American society, many still have no clue what its after-effects will actually be.

    Here’s the reality: The pain is coming and if you have yet to experience it in the form of higher insurance premiums, you can be assured that you’re going to feel it very soon in one way or another.

    Our entire economy is about to get hit with a sledgehammer.

    The following must share micro-documentary from Everything Investments details many of the changes to come, and despite what the mainstream media wants us to believe, or what those who are receiving free health care think they are getting from their government, the fact is that a dark cloud of economic malaise is going to descend upon our country.

    Obamacare is turning America into a part time workforce… companies all across the nation are reducing many workers to less than 30 hours a week… this includes local and state governments.

    Obamacare also has job killing mandates and other penalties on business, increasing tax burdens on smaller companies.

    …Costs all around are going to rise.

    Watch ObamaScare and learn just how this is going to affect our economy and YOU within a few months time:

    (For More Informative Videos and Resources visit Everything Investments)

    Other than Congressional members and those companies which received “special” exemptions from the health care bill because of backroom deals, these new mandates are going to put so much pressure on individuals and businesses that the destruction of America’s economy is now a foregone conclusion.

    We can pretend “free” health care is free, or we can realize that the government just nationalized 1/6th of our country’s economy and they are confiscating the wealth of an entire nation in an effort to make it work.

    As we noted previously there is no fix to this debacle and we can fully expect the entire system – and that includes Obamacare and our domestic economy –  to detonate within one year’s time.

    Buckle up, it won’t be pretty.

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    1. Ugly says:

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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      • Be informed says:

        Face it, the second that the country started to make it more profitable to get from the state, the whole system began dying. It all logically sense, why would these people go to work each day only to have the majority of it taken away in ridiculous taxes. It is not what you make, it is what you take home.

        This is a trap, in which getting from the state because the path of least resistance. Then the government has people hooked into dependency, which is just a skip away from enslavement. All this while the rest of the world is going to fight over the remaining resources. End times? Sure seems like it is getting close. You look at the quality of life a generation or two ago, and people were a hell of lot more happier.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Thats why the electric and everything needs to go down and back to the 1800s that way the wild wild west fits right in cause medical care was scarce and questionable at best, obamacare same thing,
          They can stuff their mandates,

          Was interesting all the quakes in a line in Ok yesterday, and the small wone on the cascadia, havent seen one there in a bit,

          Lots of stuff surfacing about Ison and a possibility of a collision after it passes the sun,
          That could make stuff interesting, i could certainly see it breaking up, creating a debris field that Earth passes through, not sure about it wacking us, but this stuff is all based on theoretical calcs, lots of variables

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          • CaliPrepper says:

            One gotta ask himself: Why is the government running the country into the ground? These people arent that stupid, they cant be that moronic. I think this is all being done on purpose, that is the only answer. To what end though?

            Prepp prepp prepp is all I have to say. For those who are alone and need to find like minded people, or for those whos prepper group could benefit from a tool to strengthen their bonds, that prepper/survivalist game I posted about a few weeks ago is now on sale for 48 hours, it makes a great stocking stuffer.

            http://conflictedthegame.com/

            The good news about all of this, is that people around the world are waking up in record numbers. That is the only benefit I see so far.

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            • Barn Cat says:

              Obama is a tool of the globalists. America has to be destroyed so it can be absorbed into a one world government. The Fed is destroying the dollar. Central banks around the world are destroying their currencies. We’re going to see a deliberately engineered global economic collapse.

              Anybody think about the consequences of Obama letting Iran build nukes? The Saudis are LIVID. It’s going to accelerate the end of the petrodollar system.

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              • JayJay says:

                How is this achieved–the NWO, the takeover of all finances, ownership to make us slaves??
                When all jobs and businesses are lost, when all homes and commercial buildings are foreclosed on, the elites rush in and buy these 10¢ on a dollar.
                They have robbed the worker for a century to do this and have trillions at their disposal.
                Don’t believe it?? Stay alert and watch.

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                • OutWest says:

                  Barn Cat & JayJay

                  What you are saying has been nagging at me
                  for quite some time.
                  It really came home to me during the “Big
                  Obama vs. Romney” campaign debate.

                  When Romney came out with both guns firing
                  and Obama just sat there like a bump on a
                  log, smiling with no rebuttal at all, It was
                  very clear the PTB were pulling the strings,
                  and the outcome was a done deal.

                  Since the PTB own all the central banks, it
                  would be a no brainer for them to crash the
                  existing system and replace it with another
                  one world system, as easy as we would upgrade
                  to a new car.

                  This is what makes me feel at times as though
                  my little ranting and ravings on the things
                  down at our level is nothing more than pitch
                  forking manure against the wind.

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                • Ugly says:

                  JayJay.

                  It won’t be 10 cents to the $1, that is a 10:1 ratio. We are looking at 1 cent to $1, a 100:1 ratio.

                  That is why we need another Sir Ronald Reagan. He was the last era where a small conservative person could earn 10% in Bank CD and Money Markets and at least 4% in a savings accounts.

                  But then came NWO Bush, NWO Clinton, NWO Bush, and now NWO POTUS.

                  These guys made sure the Reagan days were toasted and never to come back again. And they have succeeded….

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                • JayJay says:

                  And might I add..you own your home??
                  Great–you will lose more than me when you can’t pay those property taxes and T. Boone Pickens and his like buys in at the court house auction sale.

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              • John Q. Public says:

                @ BarnCat

                Anybody think about the consequences of allowing genocidal Zionist maniacs to be the only nuclear-armed nation in the Middle East?

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              • CaliPrepper says:

                You are exactly right Barn Cat, I agree with you 100%!

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                • Anonymous says:

                  Women are things, obviously. Did you see the ad for videos after this video? That’s why all the problems in the world– some men view women as things. Citizens as things. Animals as things. and the whole natural world as things, for their greedy use. (Instead of the sentient creatures we all are!)

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              • Tucker says:

                If you were Iran, and had a pathologically insane, nation full of blood thirsty, narcissistic, schizophrenic, mentally deranged, 9-11 false flag orchestrating, stuxnet virus and Fukushima disaster complicit psychopaths living next door to you and those psychopaths were armed to the teeth with unregulated, uninspected, unaccountable nuclear weapons that they had conspired to illegally steal from the White Western nations via espionage and treason and they were using those weapons to blackmail the Western nations into launching unprovoked and illegal wars against any nation that the psychopaths got an urge to destroy – don’t you think that you might want a nuke or two, to use as deterrent against being attacked either by Israel or by one of their attack dog nations?

                Just asking.

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            • Old Gringo says:

              The destruction of free market capitalsm and small business was the whole point of the exercise. Mega corporate crony capitalism (ie fascism) is about to enslave the people. Was it not obvious to those who believed in this man who he was beholden to? Low information voters have destroyed America from within.

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              • Chance says:

                perhaps it would be said best if you said,Low Intelligence voters have destroyed america.

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                • Tucker says:

                  A slight clarification to Chance’s almost completely truthful comment.

                  A tiny, but relatively high intelligent segment of America’s population – with a deep rooted, maniacal hatred and animosity towards the foundations and traditional White European people of America – recognized that the low intelligence voters were a useful and highly effective weapon that they could use to destroy America.

                  I envision a board room with a very big executive style table, like the one in the movie The Godfather – where all the rabbis were gathered around and studying historical charts and looking over the historical resumes of the different ethnic groups and examining their levels of success in running cities, states, or nations.

                  The group they decided to work to put in charge of America was the group who had the most success in creating failure.

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                • shiftless says:

                  All voters are by definition low intelligence. That’s because you would have to be stupid to believe that voting changes anything. We got to where we are today by voting. We would be in the exact same position had nobody ever voted. Voting does not work, because the entire system is rigged. The only option we have now is armed revolution.

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          • John Q. Public says:

            ObamaCare (née HillaryCare) was designed to facilitate the Synagogue of Satan’s agenda of depopulation, enslavement, and damnation.

            There is the direct effect of providing poor care and the indirect effect of sabotaging the economy.

            Most commentary scratches only the superficial health and economy aspects of ObamaCare. I believe that Brandon Smith struck a deeper vein of golden truth with his ObamaCare analysis in this article:

            http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/expect-devastating-global-economic.html

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          • Tucker says:

            In concurrence with Kulafarmer’s pessimistic analysis, let me make a recommendation on a new must have item for everyone’s survivalist gear preparations;

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            I currently own a Jetboil, which requires LP gas for fuel – and it is an amazing little stove that is really a fantastic asset to have in one’s gear inventory. But, they require LP and sooner or later, you will run out of fuel canisters and won’t be able to find more fuel for it. So, following the principle of redundancy and backup systems – these Biolite wood stoves are perfect and essential item to add to your gear list.

            There is also a stainless steel attachable grill that fits this stove, and I recommend it as well.

            No electricity means we go back to depending upon nature’s fuel sources – wood, primarily.

            I encourage people to read the customer reviews on this product and hit youtube and watch the videos on it. Right now, at the website above – it’s on sale, and has free shipping through late December.

            Mine’s on order, and I have a couple of grass fed sirloin steaks sitting in my freezer, waiting for the arrival of my stove and grill.

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            • And where will you get another stove when that one rusts or becomes damaged? Steel, unfortunately, doesn’t grow on trees. You’re only putting off the inevitable.

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        • Ugly says:

          BI.

          People were happier because life was more ‘real’ and simpler. We had 4 tv stations and after school it was Andy, Brady, and Gilligan.

          Today. Shit, everyone is looking at their iPhone.

          That is why I said Americans will miss comet Ison is because you actually have to look up instead of down.

          I have been at meetings where 90% of folks are on their iPad or iPhone texting or looking instead of listening to the speaker.

          I’d hate to see what the Sermon on the Mount would look like in today’s America. As Jesus is speaking to the 5000, I’m sure 4999 would be texting.

          The End Times are here. We have no Leader. As it said in Old Testament, ‘they did as they saw fit, because Israel (USA) had no King’….

          Have a good Thanksgiving. We still have mucho grande to be thankful for. Good luck….

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          • PO'd Patriot says:

            Hold onto that thought Ug, gotta take this call……..

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            • sixpack says:

              I’ve even noticed many people sitting in church, playing cards on their iphones during service. I thought that was rather disrespectful to whomever was trying to speak.

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              • truth_be_told says:

                holy ghost? Our preacher criticized us for talking about our kids and other topics while waiting for the sacrament. no doubt he’s right.

                BTW, I guess everyone else noticed laws and systems have been put into place where you HAVE to be ‘in the system’ to live. E.g. you can’t sell without paying tax and bowing to many other requirements, you can’t live in a house without paying tax plus water ‘tax’ in locales where I’ve lived, etc. Basically, you can’t live in the USA unless you join “the system”.

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                • sixpack says:

                  Maybe that’s one of the things the Mormons got right—they’re basically creating their own self-sustaining “system”.

                  The LDS church is grabbing more land, has it’s own charities, grows, packs and distributes it’s own food brands, has it’s own employment opportunities, even has it’s own adoptions counseling and service. They often school their own children. They have their fingers in multiple financial objectives and in some cases, they’re building their own multi-household communities on privately help land.

                  It seems to me that Mormons are prepping to distance themselves from a lot of the upcoming crap…a good example to follow, if I say so myself.

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                • sixpack says:

                  OOOps—”on privately HELD land”.

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          • Any Mouse says:

            Ugly

            Aaah. the days of only 4 channels(one being PBS)on the television, when the children were the remote control and phones were attached to the walls.

            The Sermon on the Mount would be a podcast today.

            Happy Turkey Day to you, I’m going to watch the parade.

            Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

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        • Mike in VA says:

          BI

          People were happier then. We made homemade ice cream on summer evenings. Had cookouts. Ate cold watermelon. We just spent time with friends and neighbor’s. People loved each other. Trusted each other. Took care of each other. Hard to do that when you live a mile apart and never see each other.
          We never locked the doors. Now no one trusts each other. No one has manners or morals. My neighbor’s still do. That is why I live where I do.
          I do believe we are part of the end times. I believe it is going to get way worse before most people realized what times we are living in.
          Happy Thanksgiving. I hope you and yours have a great one.

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          • doug says:

            I agree, when I was a kid, in the summer I left the house in the morning and did not come home til dinner time, running around doing things the whole time. The kids these days are fat and lazy.

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            • Mcdave says:

              People were happier because we worked hard and played hard. We set goals that were hard to reach and then achieved them. It mattered “what kind of Man you were”. If you were just a pussy, well you were just a pussy.

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        • sixpack says:

          “Face it, the second that the country started to make it more profitable to get from the state, the whole system began dying.”

          BI, I have to respectfully disagree. It’s not the poor people in this country that is the problem…IT IS THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS INTENTIONALLY MAKING THE PEOPLE POOR.

          I see post after post on this site, robotically blaming poor people for something that is NOT UNDER THEIR CONTROL, any mo0re than it is under OUR control. They didn’t QUIT their jobs to go mooch off of you—they LOST their jobs, or most of their hours, due to THE GOVERNMENT’S intended actions. Contrary to popular rhetoric, THE WHOLE COUNTRY (BESIDES YOU) IS NOT LAZY.

          No one asked for their jobs to get shipped overseas or their company to go under because of all of the government mandates that regulated them right out of business.

          The poor people didn’t pass the legislation that destroyed their wealth and/or made them homeless. In most cases, their representatives didn’t even know what the hell they were voting on…they voted on lies and pretenses and fraud. As with any family, you don’t hold the children responsible for what their PARENTS do, neither should we hold each other responsible for what our black-mailed congress does without our consent.

          Regardless of what you think, people that voted for obummer were FOOLED by all of his lies. OBAMA told us all, that the affordable care act would be wonderful and he detailed just how it would be—BUT HE LIED TO GET PEOPLE TO AGREE TO IT. HE LIED TO US ALL.

          How can you possibly hold a bunch of fluoride-drinkin-GMO-eating-uneducated-indoctrinated sheeple responsible for the slick presentation they received? Obummer was DESIGNED to fool the people, tutored by masters of the craft.

          Yet the only people you can blame are victims…yes, VICTIMS. We are ALL victims of the foreign elitists who control our government. ALL OF US. Not just the poor.

          I am so sick of this rhetoric. DIVIDE AND CONQUER—you’re playing right into it. So who’s the fool now?

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          • sixpack says:

            IF WE CAN’T STOP FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER, THEY’LL TAKE US ALL DOWN…Bet on it.

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            • Facebook Page says:

              When did you start making excuses for everyone.

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              • sixpack says:

                We’ve said it here a thousand times—there is no excuse for someone who won’t think for themselves.

                “When did you start making excuses for everyone.”

                Is that the best you can do, FBP? It must mean you can’t argue rationally with truth.

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            • Facebook Page says:

              Survive its death and join who survives. That all that is left to do.

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              • OutWest says:

                sixpack — maybe half and half?

                It’s hard to catch a fish if they ain’t bitin’

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                • sixpack says:

                  Only if you’re trying to catch a whole school of fish with a pole—a net would be a better idea, then they don’t need to bite anything.

                  But aren’t we talking about PEOPLE here? Dehumanization is key to justifying the annihilation of others. It is what the elite do to all of us “useless eaters.”

                  Or have we forgotten that it’s a big club— AND WE AIN’T IN IT EITHER.

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        • Walt Kowalski says:

          It’s the Cloward-Piven strategy in full implementation.

          The following is a link to an article in American Thinker from 2008:

          http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

          Prophetic…..is it not?

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      • bohica1 says:

        whats truly ridiculous is this kenyan SAID in 2008 at some union function (yes its on tape) that he wants a single payer healthcare plan, ‘but it will take time.’ this monster is so arrogant, he doesnt feel he needs to hide his true intentions. similar to Hitler and ‘Mein Kampf’, this commy weasel has laid out his plan for us, via written word and verbally. yet no one has listened or paid attention. we r all in big trouble, folks

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      • good guy says:

        that damn Bush, we all know he caused this, so obamaa will say

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      • BigB says:

        Once again as it always is you need only to follow the money to see how we got here and where we are going. Is there anything that the phrase “follow the money” does not apply to.

        Back in 2007 when then candidate Obama was campaigning for president one of his main rants was against the evil insurance companies. Yet for all his threats to destroy these companies the truth was that health insurance companies were his largest contributors right next to unions. Go back and check out who was it that purchased the head table tickets at every speech. It was health insurers. I questioned it then. Now I see.

        Through Obama the Affordable Care Act was passed making it a law that every person in America must purchase health insurance. And if they, the people can not afford it the government will subsidize whatever that individual cannot pay. As they now state “It is now the law of the land”. Part one of the big picture plan is in place.

        Now for part two: Get the opposition, Republicans, to now repeal certain parts of the law that will stop the insurers from being forced into a quality based and what used to be a financially competitive marketplace.

        End result: Insurance companies will be able to charge more for individual plans with higher deductibles, no more filing bankruptcy on medial bills (nicely crafted I might add as theses bills like taxes will hang over your head the rest of your life), have the government act as a bill collector and end the end blame Obama for the whole thing. Which in a way it is his fault. They, the uniformed and liberal pukes, put an unqualified black man into a position that he could no more handle than a toddler could operate a space shuttle.

        BigB

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        • JayJay says:

          BigB and all here.
          Think about it.
          Who is helped when premiums get cancelled and are raised by 300% for healthy families??
          Who is helped when deductibles go from $1500 to $15,000 annually??
          Who gets helped when families are forced to make donations to insurance companies and it’s called healthcare?
          Have the answer yet?? And it ain’t the consumer.

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          • braveheart says:

            JayJay, the insurance companies and government to answer all 3 of your questions. I would advise those families to use their own discretion about Obamacare. Don’t let anyone coerce you into buying something you don’t want. As long as I can keep my current coverage, OK. If I lose it, that’s it, it won’t be replaced by Obamacare. when it comes down to putting food on the table or having health insurance, having food will win every time. Nobody can eat health insurance. braveheart

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          • sixpack says:

            …and he lied straight to our faces about it. obummer should be impeached and then prosecuted for obamacare alone.

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          • BigB says:

            Exactly my point Jay Jay.

            BigB

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      • Jim (another Jim) says:

        No Ugly, it is all Woodrow Wilson’s fault when he signed in the Federal Reserve Act. The next major culprit was Johnson when he had JFK killed. All REagan did was spend a lot of money. Then CLinton put a final nail in the coffin when he signed NAFTA. All Obama is doing is making sure the nails don’t come loose

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        • Ugly says:

          Why does everyone skip Carter?

          In 1981, before Reagan took office, we had.

          20% interest rates.
          14% unemployment
          500 billion debt growing at 20%
          Grain embargo
          Dumping grain into the oceans
          Boycott of Olympics
          Iranian Hostages
          NASA going nowhere
          Russia getting ahead of USA

          When he left in 2008, he turned those peanuts into gold. Even a guy making $15,000 a year could invest and survive.

          His reward–almost gone via NWO thru Hinckley?

          He also had the highest US Dollar indes in the history of the USA.

          So dudes, please do not skip Carter. or even LBJ.

          Our last two great POTUS was JFK and Sir Ronald Reagan. One lost his life, the other a warning….

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          • shiftless says:

            Ronald Reagan isn’t a “Sir” and he isn’t a hero. He is personally responsible for a large part of the economic destruction we see today. He spent this nation into incredible debt. I think you need to read and understand history a bit more.

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          • Lost In The C.R.C says:

            I must have missed when Regan got elected in 2004, how could he have left in 2008?

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        • ENFP says:

          Jim, I agree with everything except what you say about all Obama is doing. He is doing a lot more: exponentially increasing the power of the Federal Government and going against the Constitution, virtually annulling it. Congress and judges are blackmailed, bribed or threatened, truth-tellers assassinated. I put this country in the same boat as Hitler’s Germany in 1933/34. The evidence is everywhere and how many are seeing it. Is this not what it was like to be a German citizen in those years?

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        • Kevin2 says:

          Jim

          Clinton did not stop with NAFTA but he gave us China Free Trade too along with the demise of Glass-Steagall.

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      • MongoPissed says:

        Reagan is used as a tribal totem by the Right, and a whipping boy by the left. I remember the slow speaking host of Death Valley Days. His administration saw the military industries running amok when he essentially gave them a credit card with no limit. I worked 70 hours a week to pay the bill. Ollie North and friends flooded the streets of America with coke, and sold arms to Iran and Iraq to extend their war. Reagan was half senile when he took office, but found the inner strength to overcome this disability and concentrate on his crowning achievement: the financial destruction of the Soviet Union. Read up on Leo Wanta if you wish to know how it was done. The bonds that backed this were due to be redeemed on 9-12-2001, but were destroyed on 9-11 – necessary since the underlying funds had been stolen. Reagan’s reward was an attempt on his life by the son of a Bush family friend, Hinckley. Having stolen trillions, they wanted Reagan out of the way. He was the one man who could believably finger the conspirators. America’s wealth has been stolen, and our industries outsourced. Obama is the fall guy for the Zionist/Nazi alliance. He does nothing his masters have not proscribed. Look at his first term handler: Rahm Emmanuel, who served in the Israeli military – not the U.S. – and is the son of an Israeli terrorist. Obama is the designated fall-guy as the globalists collapse us into their Judeo-Nazi NWO. Our only hope is that the Zionists and Nazis begin fighting each other over choice scraps of America’s flesh.

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        • Ugly says:

          Mongo….

          Good analysis. If ‘We The People’ were active, then we could stop this. But with over 70% or more folks dependent on the Govt, there really is no chance.

          The NWO has already selected our two POTUS candidates for 2016.

          All we can do is live, be aware, and prepare the best. Also, the Lord is in control. We were warned of these days long ago.

          Happy Thanksgiving !!!!

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        • Justice says:

          I thougth hate speech was not welcome here.

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      • Guns N Rosaries says:

        No, it’s not ALL Reagan’s fault…it’s Reagan, Bush 41, Bush 43, Clinton, Carter, Nixon, Johnson, Eisenhower, Roosevelt, etc.

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        • John Q. Public says:

          Indeed.

          There is a long line of puppets, prostitutes, middlemen, and other accomplices doing the bidding of Satan and his synagogue.

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          • Rocky says:

            Which, of course, you conveniently failed to mention on your other postings about Reagan being the big villain and telling people to ” Get the memo” about it. Would you like me to post your comment number for everybody to reference? I’m betting no.

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            • John Q. Public says:

              So… when Outwest and Tex touted Reagan, I was supposed to criticize other puppets in order to have your approval? They singled out Reagan for praise and I criticized Reagan. In a fit of illogic, you wrongly insisted that a criticism of Reagan meant I loved “lbj,Nixon Ford, Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama.” Illogical nonsense.

              Read my follow-up comments. You might find out if it’s a friend in your foxhole before you shoot him.

              See Comment # 2862925

              See also comments #’s 2863201, 2862925, and 2860671

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          • Justice says:

            That which you sow, so too shall you reap. Remember that as you attempt to sell your hate.

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            • John Q. Public says:

              @ “Justice”

              Ever read God’s opinion on the matter?

              synagogue of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
              accused by Moses John 5:45-47
              adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
              agents of the devil John 8:44
              blind Matthew 23:26
              blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
              children of Hell Matthew 23:15
              children of the devil John 8:44
              crucifiers Matthew 23:34
              dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
              defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
              deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
              dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
              foolish Matthew 23:17
              full of dead men’s bones Matthew 23:27
              haters of God John 15:24,25
              hypocrites Matthew 6:2, 5; 15:7; 22:18; 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29; Mark 7:6; Luke 13:15
              idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
              iniquitous Matthew 23:28
              killers of the just Matthew 23:35
              killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
              liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
              murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
              offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
              purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
              serpents Matthew 23:33
              sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
              swine Matthew 7:6
              unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
              unclean Matthew 23:25
              vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
              void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
              whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27

              axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
              cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
              condemned Mark 16:16
              cut down Matthew 3:10
              in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
              judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
              shall be broken Matthew 21:44
              shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
              the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
              woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
              wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
              your house shall be left desolate Matthew 23:38
              you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13

              rejected Him 1 Kings 8:7
              forsaken Him 1 Kings 8:8
              served strange gods 1 Kings 8:8
              hast not kept the commandments of the Lord 1 Kings 13:13
              forsaken the commandments of God 3 Kings 18:18
              mocked the messengers of God 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
              despised God’s Word 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
              misused the prophets 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
              provoked God to wrath 2 Esdras 9:26
              departed from God 2 Esdras 9:26
              threw God’s law behind their backs 2 Esdras 9:26
              killed the prophets, who admonished them earnestly to return to God 2 Esdras 9:26
              guilty of great blasphemies 2 Esdras 9:26
              forsaken the Lord Isaias 65:11
              forgotten His holy mountain ( the commandments from Mt. Sinai) Isaias 65:11
              didn’t listen to Him Isaias 65:11
              did evil Isaias 65:11
              didn’t answer Him Isaias 65:11
              chosen the things that displease God Isaias 65:11
              forsake God Jeremias 2:13
              made up their own religion “that holds no water” Jeremias 2:13
              had not done God’s work Ezekiel 20:23
              cast off His laws Ezekiel 20:23
              their eyes were after the idols of their fathers Ezekiel 20:23
              defiled Israel with idols Ezekiel 36:16ff
              profaned His Holy Name Ezekiel 36:16ff
              lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias 8:7ff
              they all dealt deceitfully Jeremias 8:10
              they voided the Covenant Jeremias 31:31-32
              sacrificed to idols Jeremias 44:23
              not walked in His law Jeremias 44:23
              disobeyed God’s commandments Jeremias 44:23
              disobeyed God’s Law Baruch 2:10
              the people of Israel will deny the Messiah Daniel 9:25ff
              no truth in Israel Osee 4:1-2
              no mercy in Israel Osee 4:1-2
              no knowledge of God in Israel Osee 4:1-2
              sacrificed to Baalim and other idols Osee 11:2
              He hates their festivities, sacrifices, and songs Amos 5:20-24
              covetous in all the Israelites Amos 9:1
              departed from the Law Malachias 2:8-12
              made void the Covenant Malachias 2:8-12
              not kept God’s ways Malachias 2:8-12
              despised their brothers Malachias 2:8-12
              committed abominations Malachias 2:8-12
              profaned the holiness of the Lord Malachias 2:8-12
              married the daughter of strange gods Malachias 2:8-12

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      • bigtoe1111 says:

        yup. he never should have let bush pressure/coerce/threaten him into naming bush as VP.
        only 27 like thinkers. hmmmm…..the hypnosis machine
        is working very well.

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    2. Satori says:

      as usual
      another video from some “experts”
      that fails to tell the whole story

      Medical bills prompt more than 60 percent of U.S. bankruptcies

      http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/05/bankruptcy.medical.bills/index.html?_s=PM:HEALTH

      Obamacare may very well not be the answer
      but what is ???

      Study: More than 60 percent of bankruptcies are linked to medical bills
      Three-quarters of people with a medically-related bankruptcy had health insurance
      Researcher: “You’re one illness away from financial ruin in this country”
      Situation likely to worsen: study was done a year before recession

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      • Satori, I definitely get your point… the system as it existed before Obamacare and as it exists now is totally broken…

        Karl Denninger made some interesting observations and has some ideas that may solve, at least partially, the issue of high cost health care:

        So Health “Insurance” Helps You, Right? Wrong
        http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=221200

        Fixing Health Care: A Real Solution
        http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2138377

        Five points and a fully free-market solution that brings affordable health care coverage to all who can buy it, yet protects those who cannot, while, to the greatest possible extent, forces everyone to bear the cost of their own decisions.

        If you choose not to be insured and pay cash you are free to make that choice. If you have a catastrophic illness or injury, insist on treatment but have no means to pay then you are subject to attachment of wages and assets by the IRS, a debt that is only discharged by your death.

        Simple, fair, free-market and this path will dramatically control costs as free market competition will be forced to the forefront among health providers who will be compelled to make available their pricing schedules to everyone before they show up for treatment and are presented the bill.

        Both good reads and worthy of consideration.

        Thanks!

        Mac

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        • Canadian Vet says:

          I have to honestly say I can’t wrap my head around the US health care system. To me it seems like only the welfare crowd and the well-off have any chance of getting comprehensive health care. Over here, health insurance is to help with the costs of hospital “luxuries”, specialists like physiotherapy or psychologists, dental, glasses and prescriptions. Not to foot the bill when you get checked out or need to go to the hospital.

          Granted our system of taxpayer-funded primary health care isn’t perfect and the only places where cash is king are specialists as named above or outpatient imagery in private facilities. But at least we all have access to a doctor if we need one and won’t be bankrupted by an extended illness or a severe injury.

          If anything, we could use a private primary care system to back our socialized one, if only so those who so desire can access speedier services. Also that competition with the private sector would force the government health care to improve drastically as their budgets are largely based on how. Ugh use they get.

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          • Lake Monster says:

            A lot of the welfare crowd will get screwed too. Not all of them are going to qualify for expanded medicaid OR subsidies. I know this from talking to our hospital administrator. She explained a lot to me that I didn’t totally understand. Obamacare will make it difficult for the poor as well, especially the working poor and the care will be bottom of the barrel.

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            There are definitely real good parts of your system, know many snow birds from Canada and they all have mostly good things to say about your system, maybe The Great White North is where i should be? Always wanted to just go all grizzly adams, pull up stakes, and sell off whatever cant be moved then resettle up outside of calgary or somewhere that has ranching or seasonal farming,,,
            Hmmmm

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          • gone under says:

            15 million Illegals get to use the EMERgency Room as thier Primary Physician.. You think that isnt a real strain on the cost of the middle class premiums.

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        • Satori says:

          I’ll start believing in the free market stuff
          about the same time I start believing in the tooth fairy again
          or in trickle down economics

          there are NO free markets
          and never have been

          ALL markets are manipulated
          either by governments for their benefit
          or by corporations for their benefit

          one local example
          if you want cable internet
          how many providers can I chose from in my town ?
          ONE
          why?
          because the local cable company fought tooth and nail
          when it was even suggested that they be subject to competition
          it’s the easiest thing in the world for a company to buy
          the politicians and laws that they want

          do I really need to provide examples of this ????????
          follow the machinations of MONSANTO for example ?????

          businesses don’t want “free” markets
          they impede profits
          they make FAR more money by manipulation

          trust corporations to do the right thing ???

          WTF ???

          I can name a million examples of why this is a BAD idea
          but then again can government be trusted ???

          the best we will achieve is a balancing act,at best

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          • Yuri says:

            “ALL markets are manipulated
            either by governments for their benefit
            or by corporations for their benefit.”

            You’ve just defined two different things:

            1. Manipulation of the market by government for the benefit of individuals within government.
            This is known as government corruption, and can be called by any number of names (e.g. crony-capitalism, corporatism, fascism, socialism, communism, tyranny, the Rule of Men, etc).

            2. Manipulation of the market by a business for the benefit of that business. This is known as competition. It is the proper functioning of the free market.

            Of course, this depends on what you mean by “manipulate”. If a business “manipulates” the market in extra-legal ways, it MUST have the cooperation of government and the law.

            A business cannot alter or enforce law, nor pass new laws. Only government can do that. If government officials unfairly legislate, adjudicate, or enforce laws in favor of a business or industry; that is NOT a failure of the free market … it is government corruption causing the economy to cease to be a free market economy.

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        • MongoPissed says:

          Excellent suggestion, Mac. In Commiefornia, MediCal liens the estate of anyone who has an outstanding balance. Many people here don’t understand that MediCal is only free to those with no assets. I had applied for home care for my bedridden mother. The application was denied, and I and a sister had to care for her ourselves. When I probated the estate, they tried to claim a lien on the house for that denied home-care. I had to prove that the lien was in error. I would go so far as to say that any outstanding balance at the time of death should likewise be covered from the estate.

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      • Billy Idol says:

        Health insurance encourages overspending because “the insurance pays for it”. Just look at cosmetic sugary, where people usually pay out of pocket. People are much more careful about hou these dollars are spent.
        If you want to reduce health insurance costs, exclude things like rehab (almost universally a failure) psychiatric care (how often is anybody ever declared cured?), and the birthing of your babies (not exactly an unforseen event, is it?).

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        • sixpack says:

          I’d make the costs associated with maternity and childbirth and “add-on” cost, that only the people planning on having kids should pay for.

          My plans would be customizable and flexible, giving people options to receive only the proprietary care they need, without having to pay for things they don’t.

          Men shouldn’t be forced to pay for maternity care for themselves, women shouldn’t have to pay for men’s issues and parents without children shouldn’t have to pay for pediatrics and/or maternity.

          You’d get what you paid for, and pay for only what you got.

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      • California Resident says:

        @ Satori

        You, like many others, operate under the false premise that Obamacare is about “healthcare insurance”, “medically induced bankruptcies”. It never was.

        This whole thing has absolutely NOTHING to do with what they advertise it to be.

        It is all about manipulation and individual control, but most importantly it is designed to destroy the middle-class.

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        • nopittypartyhere says:

          Monica Crowly was on Lou Dobbs last night and it was refreshing to see someone go on national TV and call a spade a spade. she laid it all out. “…no intention of the system working. ….intent is to collapse the middle class and pave the way for a socialist single payer system” and “…btw one the governement owns your healthcare they OWN YOU!” paraphrasing…

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      • Mike in VA says:

        Satori

        One solution is getting the government completely out of it. Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines. Competition and free markets are what we need.

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      • bohica1 says:

        satori…i dont know what the answer is. but history and my brains tell me obama’s brand of communism is NOT the cure to our ills.dont fall for it, bro, u r better than that

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      • SilverSax says:

        Satori, why does anything have to be the answer? I reject the notion that all people must be saved from their own financial disasters. If people with health insurance went bankrupt, then let them buy better health insurance!
        Keep your hands out of my pockets!

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      • Barn Cat says:

        The government wrecked the healthcare system. Then they claimed it was broken and only the government could fix it.
        The trial lawyers are big Demoncrat contributors. High jury awards lead to high malpractice insurance leads to high medical bills.

        Back in 1980 when I worked at the foundry my insurance was about $14 a month. I paid 20% of the first $500 of the bill and then the insurance paid the rest.

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      • The Old Coach says:

        The way to avoid “medical bankruptcy” is to have insurance in the first place.

        Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

        Oh, and BTW, “medical bankruptcies” are frequently a planned stepping stone to getting free healthcare. Lawyers actually advise this to clients. You can’t get the freebies until you divest yourself of all your property so’s you can look “poor” enough to get the bennies.

        Jesus actually said: “The clueless you shall always have with you”.

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        • sixpack says:

          “Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.”

          PERFECT.

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        • OPSEC says:

          Sorry but Christ never said that. Christ said in Matthew 26:11 ” The poor you will always have with you. ” Respectfully,If you are going to claim that a quote comes from the Bible please be accurate. Also the bible says:”Whoever mocks poor people insults their Creator; gloating over misfortune is a punishable crime.
          Sure some people scam the system, they are criminals. however being poor is not a crime. Show a little understanding that not all poor people are poor by choice.

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      • HitemHarder says:

        The government took over a large share of “Health Care” back in 1965 with Medicare and Medicaid…now they are trying to impose this crap on everyone. Have you ever been to a VA hospital ? I have, it’s not pretty.

        Government confiscatory policies and coercion are NOT the answer.

        If the system was “Broken” (as the social programmers and the media all want us to believe) it is because they BROKE it !

        Where is the money for social security – they stole it !!

        Government is NOT the answer.

        Get a ham radio with a packet interface NOW. You’re gonna need it.

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        • Nimrod Hunter says:

          I took my guitar teacher to the VA hospital for pneumonia. They put a drain line in him and pretty much left him alone. Once I went to visit. He sat up in bed and vomited all over himself and his bed. There were TWO nurses standing in the doorway, looking at us. I said “aren’t you going to clean up this mess?”. They just stared and didn’t say a word! I had to clean him up, and I did it while these two government drones watched! That’s no shit.

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      • doug says:

        Bankrupt is better than dead, which will be the option with obummercare.

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    3. SCTV says:

      I might be wrong but the insanity that is unfolding in regards to you new health care laws seem to be a little too contrived. There is incompetence then there is deliberate failure. It looks like the system was designed to not work properly from the beginning. The money and payments if I am correct go to the general fund for the federal government and then are disbursed as needed. So If the system does not work properly then it can be blamed for the lack of services all the while the government is collecting revenue from it’s people. As a two stroke win for the government, it plays nicely to the impoverishment of the average American and it makes money for the government to pay off other countries. I see a situation where China said that is fine if you print some new cash up but some of it must come from real assets.
      Your pensions and bank account will be next.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        The payments go to insurance companies unless you opt out then you pay a fine to the IRS

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        • SCTV says:

          Thank you, I did not know that. But, it begs the question if nobody can sign up for it properly then is it co-incidence that you still get fined for it? And the fine is based upon your gross income.
          Also thank you for mentioning the earthquakes, I wanted to ask too.

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        • Billy Idol says:

          I suspect that a lot of the recent increase in SNAPpers is due to people who are tired of pulling the cart up an ever steeper hill and have decided to drop from the ranks of the “pullers” completely. Most of these people will qualify for Medicaid and no fine will be paid. More people are working “under the table” and feeding off the beast as it dies. The choice for people who lose a good job is often to either take a lower paying job and reduce their lifestyle in return for the priveldge of raising somebody else’s lifestyle or working “off the books” and maintaning their own standard of living. The US economy appears waaay larger than any other because in most countries, much of their economic activity is conducted outside the taxman’s reach. Americans will be less willing to carry the parasitic ortion of our nation as the load creates a more visible reduction in our own standard of living. The moochers are tolerated less in poorer countries because the average citizens can afford to give away much less.

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          • The Old Coach says:

            Well, that and the fact that everybody being signed up for Obamacare in (was it Kalifornia?) is automatically being enrolled for SNAP.

            The welfare constituency isn’t the poor, it’s the bureaucrats that run the programs. The bigger the caseload, the bigger their budgets, and ultimately the bigger their paychecks.

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    4. Genius says:

      Time to sell your skills on the black market. Fix cars, do electrical, construction, etc. All cash no taxes and hey, free healthcare! Fook the system let them starve! Yard saling, ebay, craigslist, all kinds of ways to wheel and deal. Have someone you absolutely trust put a lien on your house for 110% of the value to keep the irs pigs away. Always a way to get around govt. shit. Go prospecting, recycle scrap metal, offer a moving service, the list is long! OK heres a prep tip… I have read this but haven’t tested it… For radio comms up to 200 miles get a CB radio and a dipole antenna (about 20 bux on ebay) stretch the dipole about 3 inches off the ground with the ends attached to non conductive stakes. Have the long side facing the direction you want to communicate with like this {——-} The signal will bounce off the ionisphere during the day and come back down in about a 200 mile line. This is called skip waves but it only goes in 2 directions (front and back). This makes sense and it is very difficult for anyone to track the signal. An SSB (sideband) CB will give you more power and some security since only another sideband radio can decipher it. No license required and CB’s are cheap. I’l let you know how it works once I test it…

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      • Warchild says:

        Genius,agree to live/wrok/play outside of system as much as possible,as times get tougher will be the new economy.

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      • newbee says:

        Genius.. I am really interested how this works out for you. When will you be testing this?

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        • Genius says:

          Im not sure newbee, I have a remote place about 70 miles away I will try maybe this month depending on weather. Problem is my wife will be with me and I need someone on the other end.

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      • The Old Coach says:

        evilBay for one is reporting everything to the IRS. Another reason I closed my account. Or am trying to. After eight months they still won’t do it.

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      • JustAnotherBubba says:

        I went to Ohio Diesel Tech and served as a Machinery Tech in the USCG in the 70′s in order to gain a solid skill set. I also moonlighted as a machinist. I did that rather than go to university because I knew there would be a day that my hands would feed me. I have been an ASE Master Tech and also built a Snap-On tool empire. The plan worked.

        I took two years off during this idiots first term to starve the beast of my meager contributions. Purely out of principle. It looks like it’s time to step back into the dark again. Being free and clear and self-reliant has allowed us the freedom to give him the middle finger and still live well.

        The underground economy and bartering are the way around all of the drama. The network is growing rapidly and pretty soon we will ba able to sustain a local economy “off the grid” so to speak. Some locales are using their own form of currency by using “credits”.

        We can starve the beast and let them print us into oblivion to cover their agenda. Their plan has NEVER worked and it is designed to fail.

        We’ll pick up the pieces afterwards and move forward over the dead bodies of the progressives and their quislings. Sucks being them. I have always wondered how a degree in humanities would feed you in “hard times”.

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        • Genius says:

          Yep Bubba, the new generation can’t even fix a flat tire. Texting and video gaming seem to be about it. Sure there are a few with good parents that teach them but not very many. They will probably be obammy’s new brownshirt army. One comfort is they are pretty damn stupid and shouldn’t be too hard to outsmart lol. I think old 90% silver coins would make an excellent currency. A biodiesel plant would be excellent too. Make moonshine ethanol also. Save your old tires etc. you may need them. But alas, I preach to the chior :)

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    5. Shooter says:

      All the antichrist does is lie. I don’t believe a thing he says. Our nation has turned our back on God. We should change our path and return to live the correct way. No more lies and half truths.

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    6. Socrates says:

      I hear a lot of people state that ObamaCare isn’t perfect, but it’s better than what we had. Really? Better for who? The 2 with their hands out- The IRS and the insurance companies. Nobody else. Many simply do not know yet the true financial impact of this train wreck and when they finally do…it will be too late.

      Others think they are slick and will just ‘pay the fine’.
      Think about that for a minute- you can’t afford to pay for your own healthcare, but you will pay a ‘fine’. Paying a fine still does not get you healthcare coverage AND you still had to cough up money. The fine, by the way, goes up drastically by the third year and you still…get nothing in return. You might as well just give the government your whole check, because you just wasted a very large portion of it on fines. Doh.

      With Obamacare I have already seen 2 of my doctors give notice that they are pulling up their tent stakes because of the high costs of the ‘Unaffordable Care Act’.
      This will create a bonafide shortage of good doctors and cause yet further problems. I live in one of the healthiest states in the country…yet my premiums went up by over 25%. The Affordable Care Act is just that…an Act! And a lot of good doctors are exiting stage right.

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      • Mike in VA says:

        80 percent were happy with there healthcare before Obama care. If they were truly worried about those that did not have it then just do a program for them. Even those without insurance would get treatment. You have to treat people that are critically injured according to the law.

        It never was about health insurance anyway. It was about control.

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        • Lake Monster says:

          I agree. Just do a program for the people who cannot afford it at all and go from there, and leave the rest alone.

          There were already programs in place which help people. Many clinics, federal funded programs, and hospitals giving charity care. I realize not many people are happy about those programs, but they are a hell of a lot better than what the ACA is about to do to everyone.

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        • lastmanstanding says:

          Amen Mike…another choice taken from you…little by little they seek to own you.

          They fucked with us and we found a better deal with a few things that we didn’t have before…and it wasn’t douchebagcare.

          We will be on the other side…they will be burning in hell.

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        • doug says:

          Mike, you are right. If it was truly about covering the uninsured poor, why did the entire system have to be taken over? Why not just increase taxes and cover them?

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          • sixpack says:

            Because they couldn’t get everybody’s health records and biometric data if they just increased taxes. Remember, we threw a huge fit over that “national ID card” a few years back?

            They had to get the info they wanted somehow, and THIS IS HOW.

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          • Mike in VA says:

            A lot of the uninsured were between 18 and 25. Most of them don’t carry insurance. They think they are bullet proof. The poor were already covered under either Medicare or Medicaid. I get confused about which one. If you go to a state hospital and are poor then you can get the bill written off. As usual it is the lower middle class that got hurt without insurance.

            Again it was not about anything but control of all of us.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        I actually was looking for health insurance before obummercare, was way expensive, good plan was over 800/mo but covered everything, i could have pulled it off, now, its mandated, they say “You WILL buy it or be fined”
        I say F you!
        Not only is it now more expensive, it actually gives me LESS coverage than the plan i was looking at before!
        How is that better?
        Sure i now qualify for subsidys now, that is not why i cut my output! ill be damned if i go that route, would rather fall over dead than be another mooch.

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        • gone under says:

          @ Kula…Your location also has a effect on the premium for private ins. Move to Kalispell area.

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        • JayJay says:

          Might I suggest that after January 1st, those that have signed up to those great ACA plans cheaper than what they have now and even those signing up with increases are about to see they have given the bank information to those liars raising ALL premiums and since they have your bank account # there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it??

          Just thinking out loud here. ;-)

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      • ENFP says:

        If everyone refused to buy the health care the first year when fines are lower, that would defund the program would it not?

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    7. Stew Pedaso says:

      In 2001 there was a movie about alternate universes called “The One”. I have often wondered where people get the idea of movies predicting the future. In the movie “The One” with Jet Li in the background on T.V. they have George Bush implementing his new healthcare plan…guess what it sounds like. Jaw hit the floor. There are no parties…there is only one monster in control.

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    8. Mountain Trekker says:

      Hey lets all take a break from Prepping, Fighting and Killing and just give GOD Thanks for all of the blessings He has bestowed upon us, and if you don’t believe in God just give thanks for however you think your blessing evolved. HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL Trekker Out.

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      • grandee says:

        Yes–Thank you God and Happy Turkey Day to all. And Friday morning I’m takin’ them turkey bones and making a big pot of turkey broth and canning it ! :)

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      • Lake Monster says:

        Happy Thanksgiving Trekker, and to everyone here! God Bless you and your families.

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      • lastmanstanding says:

        No disrespect MT but we give thanks to God everyday…most-likely you and others here do as well.

        …the smells in our home right now are amazing and it is just before 8 am mst. We are sharing our meal with friends locally and a family who just bought a home here.

        My honey has been working hard since late yesterday afternoon and we have been up since 5 am.

        It is the sharing part that God (and I) especially like.

        Our old buck that hangs around is also having carrots and apples with his hay.

        The more that they push us, the stronger we become until the line in the sand is reached.

        Have a good day all.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Stay warm up there bud, heard its cold in your country

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          • lastmanstanding says:

            Thanks bud. Next week near zero.

            Try Pacificsource for health insurance…We were with BCBS and they attempted to raise our rate over
            40%…in 10 years we sent them over 40K and they never paid a fucking cent of anything…We are healthy but our deductible was high as we cover ourselves again catastrophe.

            Wife is in healthcare and knows the insurance system inside out. She called the fucks and asked why. Their response was we just lumped you in with everyone in your age group…take it or leave it. We are just over 50.

            Honey found Pacificsource and turn lots of people onto it when they discovered they were going to be boned by aca…it is working well for many.

            It is a catastrophic policy but also provides some preventative care that we didn’t have before. It pays for mammograms for her, yearly physicals for both of us, and some other stuff that I can’t recall…oh, it pays for colonoscopies also…at this point, I’m really tired of having anything near my ass. Our deductible is $10k per individual. Our policy is about $300 a month for both of us. The old bcbs policy was about $330.

            Check it out brother…hope all is well.

            I am tolerating this game for now, much is on the line.

            When the line in the sand is reached, tolerance is over.

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        • PO'd Patriot says:

          LMS, sounds like good times. Ain’t no better place in the house any more important in my book than the kitchen. Goodness abounds in the kitchen. Love to watch and help the missus there and watch her move around in her apron (Yowlza!). Anyway, she just made 4 dozen, three section dinner rolls. I call then the “thundercloud” rolls (softball size). We’re having dinner over to her sisters and I managed to persuade her to leave a dozen of the rolls behind for us only. This mourning I got outta bed at 5 a.m. and fixed to pots of coffee, one for my son’s thermos and another for mine. I got down to the farm at 6 a.m. and the six of us set out around 120 deeks (decoys) for ducks and Canadian geese. With a limit of two geese per hunter, we were done by 9:45am. I killed my two (it took me three shots though). I plan on cleaning out the freezer of last year waterfowl and making jerky along what I kill this year. Anyway, I hope everyone here has an enjoyable thanksgiving, giving thanks to all that they have, great or small. Take care.

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          • lastmanstanding says:

            If I recall you are on the eastern shore. Always dreamed of a kickass waterfowl hunt on Chesapeake Bay as a young guy growing up in NW Pennsytucky…We used to get a few good field shoots each year for Canadas.

            I used to blow out of college classes in seconds if the weather turned foul. I’d drive like a mad man to get a huge local swamp, paddle a mile in my canoe to a honey hole. Late in the day, big flight mallards would just rain in to escape the weather. The harder it snowed, the better it was. It has been many years since I thought of that…late one afternoon I kinda got wet before things started but hey, when your 20 your invincible…especially when it is going to be epic.

            I fuckin near froze to death to experience the reality that those watercolor, waterfowl prints depict. The subdued color of the day, the violence of mother natures mood and the mallards using the 30 mph breeze to seemingly reach a speed of mach one only to suddenly stall and drop straight into the calm water below.

            Not many people ever experience that kind of cool.

            never fired a shot that day. Snuck out of the hole listening to the situated birds directing the others to safety…Thank God I had to paddle because it was the only thing in my favor…made it to the truck and my hands were so cold I couldn’t get my keys out of my pocket! Know you been there!

            Anyway I am still here. That was over 30 years ago.

            Thanks for the story and the memories…RickinOregon is the fishin story guy…thanks for the huntin story.

            No way they beat us.

            “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

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      • Mike in VA says:

        Mountain

        That is the wisest post I have seen today. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving and may God bless you.

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    9. Mountain Trekker says:

      I guess I’ve been blackballed. I’m back to the moderation game. Trekker Out

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    10. Eisenkreuz says:

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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    11. But, Obama said that it will make our nation stronger. Could he have been lying? Please check the link below

      http://northwestlibertynews.com/News/tabid/771/ID/476/Barack-Obama-aka-Barry-Soetoro-A-Study-in-Duplicity.aspx

      Peace

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    12. possee says:

      Mac

      We’ve already been hit with a sledgehammer..

      as has the rest of the world..

      or as aptly stated..
      “the world’s greatest bank robbery..all done by the banks!”

      Greece was the trial run..perfect execution.

      ACA will just finish us off..

      and don’t worry about the elites..

      they are the ones reaping huge profits from QE3..as the fed pumps 85 billion liquidity into wall street each month..

      the rest of us can eat cake..

      or the crumbs that are left..

      possee

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    13. Cujo says:

      When you sign a contract and then once you sign it you find out that the contract does not work in the way it promised, that it cost you way more than promised and you find out the contract is full of lies and that company granting the contract knew years ahead of time that it could not honor it’s promises, well isn’t that fraud?

      I am not a lawyer but for my simple mind I see it as fraud thus making it Null & Void. SCOTUS should be all over this, instead they are sitting on the side lines. Where is the effort to protect and defend the Constitution and B.O.R? There is no effort, should SCOTUS be Null & Void?

      Maybe we need to establish a Peoples court, take up these Constitutional abuses then “Dictate” to SCOTUS and our Representatives that we will follow the Peoples Law.

      Or better yet, we’ll follow Gods law over Mans law!

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        SCOTUS is complicit and no longer functioning as a proper means of checks and balances, the recent action within the senate to eliminate discussion also nullifies an important check or balance, from my point of view they have ALL worn out their welcome. If people dont wake up and stand up soon you might as well just make plans to either roll over or be prepared to fight to the death standing your ground, TPTB will try to enslave every last one of us, they are all wealthy and know the average joe just getting by has limited resources, they forget about our obstinate nature.

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        • Billy Idol says:

          I’m not sure the US Constitution gives SCOTUS the final say. I remember reading that SCOTUS gave themselves this power in the 19th century.

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    14. Warchild says:

      Disagree with article conclusion there is “no fix” for this debacle.You could completely end it today,take the white house back to court as it is been ruled a “tax” and then have a vote on it as a tax,the list of what we can do is endless but those are two good starts to ending it right there.On a more personal level either end it all or no breaks till after the mid terms,let the beast out completely before the elections.On a more personal level,prepare for man made/natural disasters and try as much as possible to live outside of the matrix,every less dollar stolen from the people is one less used to repress the people.Oh.and happy bird day all!

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      • Mike in VA says:

        Ever wonder why the republicans do not try to repeal this tax. They can repeal any other. I really think they are all in it together.

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    15. possee says:

      On a side note..

      I just wonder how many videos Mac will have this weekend over Black Friday cattle herding themselves in a panicked frenzy over useless items…?

      For the rest of us..enjoy the day..

      Happy Thanksgiving to you all.

      possee

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      • Any Mouse says:

        “”Black Friday Cattle”" thats funny.

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      • AZClimber says:

        Hehe… it’s the most wonderful time of the year.
        I fudge all my prep numbers and make it look like holiday shopping. Of course I don’t get to play or cache it until after Christmas though.
        Don’t forget to stuff the stockings this year:
        Leatherman Tool
        Cable Saw
        Life Straws
        Monster Tube of silver eagles
        Pocket solar battery charger
        Red filtered head lamps
        Baofeng Ham radio accessories
        Instamorph- Moldable plastic
        Gun oil
        NRS pilot knife
        Nice RX pair milspec goggle (son) from zenni optical
        BoB bathtub water storage

        One “gift” under the tree I’m stoked about is a TMS military camping wood stove. I will review this in January after my first Sedona trip of the year.

        I do need advice on Yukon NV 1×24 goggles. Does the IR led turn on when the goggles are powered up, or only when the IR is on? If so, can it be removed or concealed? Planning on running an IR light and laser combo off the quad talks any way. I wanna know before I blow $450.
        Yeah… the next best thing to having a nice prepper lady, is having no lady at all ;)
        Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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      • I have never done the black Friday herd stampede but DAMN there is some killer deals on guns and ammo at the local Bi-Mart. Got the flyer yesterday, and was in the store day before and the 17 HMR is going for 9.97 a box limit 2 and they have a bunch. BUT I could take wife and
        children and friends.. hmm cant have too much ammo, right? But as it is, I will need another truck..

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    16. Any Mouse says:

      Has anyone tried reading the ACA?

      I’ve been trying for the last few weeks and am making little headway. My latest attempt has me using two different tablet style devices side by side so that I can look up the cross referenced material without theoretically losing my place.

      If anyone has managed to make it more than 100-110 pages into it I would really like to know how.

      Is there really any point of trying to decipher the 2409 pages of this thing since it seems that they keep “tweaking” it every few days?

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      • The Old Coach says:

        I have read 400-500 pages of it.

        One of the facets of my old job was contract administration for companies I worked for. As a result, I have had years of experience reading bureaucratese, and an equal number of years writing it, too. (I had to write proposals for the D.o.D. bureaucrats to read.)

        So, speaking as a retired professional bullshit decipherer, this thing is the worst of the worst. Written by dozens of different people who weren’t even talking to one another. I seriously doubt that there was anybody even coordinating the thing. Every separate interest group handed in their wish-list, somebody who probably never read a word of any of it concatenated it into a single document, and that’s what we got. No bloody wonder Stretch said “You’ve got to pass it to find out what’s in it”. Even she didn’t know anything, except how much money she was getting from the various interest groups.

        I’m for a new Constitutional Amendment requiring every new law to contain no more than 2000 words, and prohibiting that favorite phrase of specification writers, “incorporated by reference”. If you can’t work within that constraint, you don’t understand what you’re doing well enough to be writing any laws.

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        • Id say if it cant be read and understood by a 6th grade dropout in a minute its too long and too complicated to be of any real use and free of graft and should be thrown out…just my two cents…

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          • Im also partial to the idea of enforcing the first five words of the first amendment of the Bill of Rights and leaving it at that…”Congress shall make no laws…”

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      • Atheist Community of Austin says:

        You can’t exactly read the Atheist Community of Austin. It’s not a document.

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      • sixpack says:

        I suggest starting from the back of the bill. The most egregious stuff is hidden in the part of the bill least likely to be read. Work your way forward.

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    17. Barn Cat says:

      The damage to the economy is deliberate. It’s not the result of unintended consequences. Obama’s war on America and the middle class continues. We’re going to see big increases in unemployment and more businesses close because their customers don’t have the money.

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      • sixpack says:

        Yeah, then we’ll have even more newly poor people to demonize…where does it stop? When do we realize the poor people are not the focus, but the victims?

        Forget the obamaphone lady and the other few like her—they are NOT the norm, and NOT what is happening to our country right now. RIGHT NOW, good people are being forced into poverty against their will.

        “There, but for the grace of God, go I”.

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    18. Adam Ant says:

      So ready to jump ship and move to South America…
      Soon everything in this country will be nationalized, Hitlers dream for the USSA has come true.

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    19. I certainly am no fan of the ACA, but there is something else that is killing jobs.

      There has been other types of legislation (Social Security and Medicare come to mind) over the years that were said to be job killing laws.

      Employers always found a way to stay in business and profit in spite of these laws.

      No, the problem is no demand for goods and services. The whole economy is in a deflationary spiral. In fact, it is worldwide, and not just here in the US.

      The rollout of the ACA has been done at a very bad time. It may have worked at a time when the economy was accelerating, but not now.

      The high cost of oil is the reason for the worldwide meltdown…and it is only going to get worse. People need to spend more and more on fuel, heating and electricity and have less discretionary income and can take on less debt. Wages are stagnant and, in my case, are even being cut.

      The ACA is bad policy, but it is not the reason for a failing economy. When an economy is based on consumption and not production of real goods, it tanks when the “consumer” gets tapped out.

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      • Satori says:

        WELL said JRS

        nice to see somebody gets it

        in the end

        it’s ALL about cheap energy or should I say the lack thereof ?

        governments and corporations aren’t stupid
        they may be evil as hell
        but dumb they are not

        they know exactly what is going on
        they are trying to manage the crash

        the only way they can do this is financial manipulation
        it is the biggest Ponzi scheme the world has ever known
        and it will keep working
        until it doesn’t
        corporations and the elite
        are squeezing out every bit of $$$ they can,while they can

        there is a MASSIVE flow of wealth from the bottom (that’s us)
        to the very top

        wealth is being redistributed
        but it ain’t to the poor
        get that through your heads
        food stamp cheaters are not the problem
        they’re merely the distraction
        and it pains me greatly to see the massive # of people
        falling for the propaganda

        remember that phrase “MANAGE THE CRASH”

        quote from the movie 3 Days of the Condor

        “Higgins: It’s simple economics. Today it’s oil, right? In ten or fifteen years, food. Plutonium. Maybe even sooner. Now, what do you think the people are gonna want us to do then?

        Joe Turner: Ask them?

        Higgins: Not now – then! Ask ‘em when they’re running out. Ask ‘em when there’s no heat in their homes and they’re cold. Ask ‘em when their engines stop. Ask ‘em when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. You wanna know something? They won’t want us to ask ‘em. They’ll just want us to get it for ‘em!”

        government has known for decades that this day was coming
        we should have prepared
        we didn’t
        we’re paying the price

        the ONLY reason we have a middle class
        is CHEAP energy
        the ONLY reason the earth can support 7 billion people
        is CHEAP energy
        those days are behind us

        MANAGE the CRASH
        MANAGE THE CRASH
        MANAGE THE CRASH

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        • The Old Coach says:

          If you’re still getting your ideas from effing movies, you might want to reconsider posting here, or anywhere. The current crisis needs commentary based on facts, not speculations by drugged-up movie writers whose only talent is snappy dialogue.

          And a vibrant middle class arose in Europe in the late Medieval and Renaissance period, long before cheap energy. What kills a middle class is taxation, regulation, and dictators’ fears. The poor do not successfully overthrow dictators, because they cannot imagine an alternative form of government. A middle class can.

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          • Satori says:

            I take truth
            WHEREVER I can find it

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            • Rocky says:

              Ok Satori, let’s follow your lead then. We’ll all sit around and complain about everything. Then what? Should we sit around and watch teevee all day or just post rants on website chat rooms? I’ve NEVER read you offer a solution to anything, in fact, if I had to take a bet on it I’d say you’re an aging flower child from the 60″s, that was all they could accomplish to.

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        • “MANAGE THE CRASH”

          I agree, Satori. I don’t believe that anyone is deliberately trying to tank the economy.

          The FIRE sector makes up 40% of the GDP right now and it used to be 5%. The wealth is flowing in that direction because it was designed to do that in the way the monetary system is set up…compound interest and fractional reserve.

          They are trying to be the “last man standing”. Central banking has no allegiance. They need the crude to flow for as long as they can to keep their Ponzi alive. Thus you get creative accounting, exotic financial instruments no common man understands, and QE.

          I predict the tight oil bubble will blow up within a few years and the financial systems will crash around the same time. They are intertwined.

          Until then, we will have a continual slide down until, at the end, your two ton cars will be stranded at the end of your driveway and there will be starvation and chaos.

          On that note…have a great holiday and for all the deer hunters in my neck of the woods…fill them freezers and canners, it’s gonna be a long winter.

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          • “On that note…have a great holiday and for all the deer hunters in my neck of the woods…fill them freezers and canners”, it’s gonna be a long winter.” Quit hunting after the kids were raised and times were semi good, didnt need the meat and the wife wont eat it, so i plied my time shooting coyotes and other vermin, trading and swapping guns, reloading long distance ammo (sierra match kings for the 308) but this year took the plunge and actually filled my deer tag. Now I have a nice little 2 point in the freezer and am having back strap for breakfast with my son and grandchildren before the feast. Life is really good and Praise the Lord for the blessings. Amen

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        • JayJay says:

          But Satori–are they ‘managing’ the crash–or ‘pushing’ the crash??

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      • The Old Coach says:

        Good post.

        Let me add a coupla points. The price of oil and especially natural gas has actually been plummeting in the last 5 years or so. The reason gasoline is still high in the USA is that our refinery capacity is maxed out. The USA is actually becoming a crude exporter, because we can’t refine all that we’re pumping up from Bakken and Eagle Ford. Thank you the EPA. (Another worldwide factor of course is taxes.)

        The biggest job-killer after the ACA is the EPA. Aside from restricting refinery construction, in my poor rural Ohio River county the crushing of coal-fired electric plants by EPA has caused a large aluminum smelter to close. 1000 people out of work from that alone, in a county that has a total population of only 15,000. Being a coal mining area, most of those guys have voted Democrat from the beginning of time. How’s that workin’ out for ya, chumps?

        Yes, the deflationary spiral has started. Money velocity is falling like a dropped rock. Helicopter Ben thinks he can (and should) stave it off by expanding the money supply and ZIRP. That keeps his pals at Goldman Sachs from bankruptcy, but it destroys saving and capital formation, so actual economic productivity falls into a deep, dark hole.

        BTW do you all know that Helicopter Ben, Mario Draghi, (head of the EU central bank), and Mervyn King, (head of the Bank of England) are all products of radical Keynsian economic training at MIT? Yup. All there at the same time. Bernanke and King even shared an office. Fat chance that there will be any dissenting voices of reason in that crowd. They went to MIT y’know? They are the best and brightest, and cannot ever be wrong. (Lived in Cambridge for years and years. The type is painfully familiar.)

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      • Kevin2 says:

        Actually natural gas is cheaper than its ever been when compared to wages and motor fuel relative to wages is only up slightly but more than offset with the significant increase in fuel economy. A good wage in 1970 was $5 per hour and gasoline was 32 cents per gallon with a 12 mpg auto. The comparable present wage to that is $35 per hour although its a lot more difficult to find.

        The main problem is the evisceration of US manufacturing complements of “Free Trade” agreements. Few can find that $35 / hr job today. Hell few find $20 per hour.

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        • Satori says:

          thank God for shale gas and fracking
          it’s bought us a little more time
          but thats all it has done

          it’s another bubble that’s gonna go pop in the near future

          Shale gas myths and reality – part 1

          http://euanmearns.com/shale-gas-myths-and-reality-part-1/

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          • Kevin2 says:

            The Eagle Ford and Bakken Oil fields are increasing their outputs well beyond all estimates. The Bakken crude is ultra light and sweet too.

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            • durango kidd says:

              If the PTB are ready to use America’s oil and gas, its because there are better technologies waiting in the wings to be deployed before hydrocarbons are gone in 150 years.

              Big Oil keeps a lot of cash on hand for operations, but they also have the ability to buy any energy technology that looks promising.

              The majority of the biggest corporations are primarily American and European companies that use the dollar; for that reason alone don’t expect the system to “crash” anytime soon.

              Besides the PTB have been very successful under the current program of Free Trade to economically enslave the masses. Why stop a “good thing”? Why shoot themselves in the foot?

              There are two America’s. Any crash will be designed to affect the 90%. While the 10% will not get a free ride, they will be the pigs at the trough until the market plunges.

              Investment lesson number one: Sheep get sheared, but pigs get slaughtered. Engage your employees before they shear and slaughter you. :-)

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      • Mike in VA says:

        JRS

        This bill is not just bad it is horrendous. This law will do way more damage than social security or Medicare. Employers will cut as many people to part time as they can. This will increase the deflationary spiral you speak of. Employers and people all have to now pay way more for there medical plans. That will increase the deflationary spiral you speak of. Those who cannot now afford plans or have been cancelled will pay fines. Again increasing the deflation.

        As far as energy goes. We have the solution. Drill and produce our own. Allow the keystone pipeline. Open up the coast and government lands. Get the bleeding heart liberal environmentalist out of it. Cut regulation on oil and power companies. All of these would give us cheep energy for years.

        Government does not want that though. Oh no. They want us all dependent on them and under there control.

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    20. Npgh says:

      I want to wish every one of you a Blessed and Happy Thanksgiving. All Glory goes to God.

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    21. Satori says:

      is this what we want in this country ???

      Homeless Man Dies in Hospital Courtyard After Waiting 5 Days for Medical Attention

      http://pvangels.com/news-mexico/9251/homeless-man-dies-in-hospital-courtyard

      if so
      then we had better damn well quit calling ourselves
      a “Christian nation”

      ain’t NOTHING Christian about it

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    22. AnAngryAmerican says:

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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      • Gonetoolong says:

        Tell your cancer tale to the lady in the news the other day. She was cancelled in the middle of her cancer battle using chemo. Now she is forced into ACA. Guess what? They say no more treatments for you. Why? They (TPTB, aka death panel) deem her to be too expensive to treat. You dumbshits don’t get it yet. I guess it will take something such as your mother, your son, your daughter getting the shaft from this “health”care. More expensive, less treatment, higher deductible. What a fucking crock.

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    23. Satori says:

      “but there’s a problem,our way of life is OVER,it’s unsustainable”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO8pBkBaIog

      one minute and 7 seconds to explain what is happening

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    24. maudy fricket says:

      I heard President Clinton give a speech about Americans having 25% of the worlds wealth but only 5% of the worlds population. To him this was bad. I heard him give a speech in Portland Oregon about how he was going to prove to the world that America could function as a non-white country. These are the rantings of the insane that were trained at the Council on Foreign Relations. This is what they think of us. This is what guides their every action. Even under Ronald Reagon, most people in government decision making positions are adherents of the ideology of the Council. Even Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Reagons Secretary to the UN was a member of the council. The Council is the foreign policy maker for the US. Not conspiracy theory. It’s just their openly stated agenda.

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    25. newbee says:

      On this day I am thankful for my wife and kids and the roof over my head. I am also thankful we made it threw another year in these scary times. I am also thankful to have all of you guys here on this page since I am learning tons of possible life saving knowledge. I hope to be here typing on my laptop next Thanksgiving I would like to have one more year to get my shit together. I hope all of you enjoy this day. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you.

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    26. Ancient Echoes says:

      Perhaps what the “elite of the world” has discovered is that we are really all one and they are just trying to wake up humanity to realize this. Enjoy waking up from your naps everyone. May the sleep you received help you to be healthy, wealthy and wise. Learn something new each and every day that will help us all be united.

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    27. Tactical says:

      @maudy cricket…Excellent point. Everyone you have named along many others are only the puppets implementing the plans once approved by the Council on Foreign Relations. The key point is who are the master puppets on CFR and their relationships with the Federal Reserve, Wall Street Investment banks and on.

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    28. Nam Marine says:

      Baloney! It will FAIL all by itself just like the
      “Muslim-in-Chief will FAIL !

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    29. Warchild says:

      Seems the pot importers taking lessons from helicopter ben bernanke: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Plane-Drops-Bundles-of-Pot-into-US-Flies-Back-to-Mexico-233528591.html ,must be worried the US grows the best in the world,like china did with cheap goods trying to flood the market!And yet again,though I don’t smoke pot the drug war only enables the drug/court/cop/prion cartels to exist!

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    30. cjmartel says:

      This healthcare act is the door to total subjugation of Americans, nothing less. The IRS is overseeing this? This combination of the federal government and the IRS controlling over one sixth of our economy is, and cannot, end well for anyone. The government has been drawing all manner of power and authority to itself for the past couple of decades, more so since 9/11, this is just the crown jewel in the transforming of America from the land of the free to the land of the over taxed, over regulated police state. We see examples every day, yet little or nothing is done to curb the excesses of the national, state, or even local governments is their pursuit of total control of the USA. When SCOTUS ruled that this act was constitutional we all knew the fix was in, did anybody do anything? nope, and nothing will happen until we wake up some fine day and see Abrams AND Russian and Chinese T-85 tanks coming up the street to “liberate” us from our food, weapons and hope.
      In closing, am I the only one who can see that this leviathan called the government has completely discredited, or otherwise killed off any who would lead America back to true freedom? Facebook, google, and EVERY other internet or communications provider sends every single communication back to the NSA, there is no way in hell we can hope to fight back until we can neutralize this incredible intelligence gathering apparatus, until this happens, nothing else can happen. Keep praying and for the love of God, stop giving this government anything else, screw them!

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    31. Scott C. says:

      What many people fail to understand about the ruling class is their perspective.
      While implementing their plan, they keep the focus of the proles on short term issues while they use policies that are more akin to a tree farmer.
      The seedlings they plant will never come to fruition in their lifetime. Their offspring reap the benefits.
      Politicians are just their front men.

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      • GrandpaSpeaks says:

        It seems that they lost their patience in 2001 Scotty. But they continue with the social engineering. Hand a kid a gun in 20 years and they will drop it like it was made of acid, look up and say, “I didn’t mean it, please don’t tase me, I’ll be good”. And they will never know why or how. One more generation for sure, if not sooner. Their wait is almost over. Remember that old poster of a vulture saying “Patience, my ass”. It is also a suitable poster for the elite of today. Yet they proceed having already made their greatest strategic error.

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    32. Happy Thanksgiving y’all!

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    33. Ralphieboy says:

      Happy Thanksgiving all!

      Be thankful for the freedoms we still have, embrace them and let’s all use our God- given talents to fight back and make sure no one ever takes them away.

      I am thankful for all you Patriots out there who refuse to give up.

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    34. Ralphieboy says:

      Happy Thanksgiving all!

      Be thankful for the freedoms we still have, embrace them and let’s all use our God- given talents to fight back and make sure no one ever takes them away.

      I am thankful for all you Patriots out there who refuse to give up.

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    35. aljamo says:

      Well, I’m glad that I am a few years past 60. I feel bad for the younger people who when faced with the impossibility of affording life’s essential necessities will realize life in these united states is one big nightmare.

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    36. HD74Man says:

      Watched about 20 minutes of the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. Ugh…And the message implied from this broadcast is…the majority of this nation’s populace are dipsh*t sheeple with their heads buried in the sand, placated by idiot entertainment and a plethora of governmental liars and propagandists.

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    37. Merlin says:

      funny, isn’t it, that we don’t have any problem or controversy spending close to one trillion dollars per year, every year, for the military and so-called national defense!
      this article and video make a strong case for single payer health insurance. the waters are constantly being muddied to keep the public’s mind off the ball with regard to single payer health insurance.
      you must always ask yourself who benefits from these schemes cooked up by the powers that be.
      Obamacare, as it’s called, was written in conjunction with the healthcare insurance industry. it seems that forty million new customers aren’t enough. they apparently want to work the system so as to make even more money.
      and don’t forget, the prescription mess in which we find ourselves was crafted by the bush administration, that group of fine Americans!

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    38. Be informed says:

      @ Sixpack. I blame the government for almost everything, including BO and his puppet masters. The government has sold off America to the enemy, not just BO, but most of congress to their own benefit. This is all a trap and people are falling into it. Unfortunately though you don’t have support for freedom anymore like you did a generation ago. Not to say there are not people that respect freedom above tyranny, but the numbers are waning by the shear number of people that don’t prepare and the shear number of people that continue to vote one or the other of the two party system. I think the final presidental vote was like 51 to 47%, with less than 2% NOT voting for one of the two.

      You are correct about the polarizing of America, and it is one side or the other. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. There is no longer a middle ground. IF there was you would see 10-20% of higher taking a third or fourth party as an alternative to two heads of the same beast. Not saying that a third party like someone like Jesse Ventura would be a lot better, but at least it would be a change.

      A government is so much more power when they can focus hate and disruption on one or the other parties, get away with things easier. If there was 4 parties that each got close to 25% of the vote, this country might have had a chance. I say might have because this country is toast, and so is the world. The human civilization is in a major decline. The amount of technology in other than computers has not advanced much in the past 30-40 years. Still driving combustive engines like back in 1920. They still can’t get to other planets using ion driven motors or so other advanced propulsion, They are still using slow liquid rocket fuel like they did back in the 1940′s. There is no cure for disease as the evil dope companies would never allow that. People are not even close to be as healthy as they were even back in the 1990′s. People are approaching a huge die off.

      You see this in many life forms, were they reach an apex and then fall off to near or extinction. Human beings have yet to show that they are any different. Humans have the capacity for much with their brains, yet most use less than 10%. Many now less than 5%. It is so rare to see people, other than sites like this, that free think and are inventive and creative.

      This is why I enjoy coming around here, because I so much respect people with minds. What I worry about is this manure government will try to kill off sites like this because people like us are the monkey wrench in their plans of ultimate control of everyone. The government HATES free thinkers that bow down and let the state do their thinking for them.

      Just look at all the other sites that ban free thought on the premise that you are bashing an article. Look at how many other these worthless sites have 1000 to 5000 to 1 visit to people that comment. Here you have 50 to 100 visits to 1 comment, that shows how free thinking friendly site this is. I see though sites like this one dying, replaced with walking on egg shells to submit an opinion as they limit characters to 4098, or a tiny word limit. I always laugh at the hypocricy of some of these pro government wads that complain about government censorship then have this rigid cooment policy that cherry picks only the most ass kissing comments to be posted.

      This is why I am so down on most people, because so much totally sucks and so many of these people just go along with it. I just don’t see anyway out of a massive coring out of the human population in the near future. People have chosen to go totally down the wrong path, with not just the government crap, but with common decency and common sense. Just look at how many are gravitating towards weirdness, perversion, and pure evil. I blame the human psyche on this. While the government is partially to blame, people don;t have to watch lady gaga drinking blood and giving alliance to her lord and master the Devil. They don’t have to watch miley siren getting sexually aroused on a giant dildo she calls a wrecking ball. I partially blame her father for whoring out his daughter for this, but someone that has vodka and whiskey for breakfast is not really with it anyway. The point is people don’t have to follow this evil and rot, but they do and this is shown in the sales of this. It shows people are embracing the evil one and not God. It shows people with free choice are drawn to what is animalistic not what is spiritual. It shows that most people are in for massive total shock for what is coming.

      By the way to you and everyone else, a very happy Thanksgiving, it may be one of the last ones left.

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      • Mike in VA says:

        Have a happy Thanksgiving. May God bless you.

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      • sixpack says:

        I think opposing this govt is like working on a rusted exhaust manifold bolt. If a wrench don’t work, get a hammer…if that don’t work, get a bigger hammer.

        I truly think we’re past the wrench stage.

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      • RealAdvice says:

        This. “The human civilization is in a major decline.” There is no REAL advancement. People lean on “how fast is the next computer processor” for a gauge on technological advancement. But the reality is our splintered “society” has scientists in pockets that never collaborate or focus time/money to reach a goal. We’ve never been to the moon. We’ll never go to Mars. Humans will never escape Earth. Calamity (natural or manmade) will fall long before then.

        The creation of “money” has led to a system where people can amass value without being an actual part of a transaction. The banks get richer when you use your dollars to buy food from a grocrery.

        People are lazy. We value being entertained over exploring out existence. People make advancements in computer graphics only to create a better distraction. People make better outdoor equipment only to keep us pushing to farther heights away from our problems.

        Religion was created to control the populace and nobody bothers to come up with their own concept of reality or existence. It’s convenient (ie. lazy) to read a book by someone else and “believe” what it says then to use your own brain. Everyone here unanimously accepts that the government lies to them but they don’t question whether a “church” could have done/is doing the same thing.

        The media and society have created a stigma in the public that paints production of one’s own food as a lowly task that should only be done by low-wage migrants. The excuse “food production frees us to explore other aspects of life” is a terrible one because even if true, what aspect are you exploring? The next episode of ? Nobody is making use of the time they are given. Time that comes from someone else doing work to support their existence.

        How many people would survive if computers, electricity, grocery stores, and gas stations were gone by tomorrow? If that happened, how long would it take before people stopped killing each other for food? How long would it be before people tried to rebuild what we had in an effort to “do better this time?”

        Everyone believes that humans think of sex every few seconds. How many have questioned whether that’s natural or a side-effect of our environment/society? Everyone focusses on sex so much and appearance. And companies use this against you. People think that the term “marketing” means something other than ‘pure evil’. In it’s base form, marketing means to coerce a person to give you money. Any other explanation or argument to that is an excuse you’re making to try and hide the fact that you were duped.

        People think overpopulation isn’t a problem. The argument “it’s only in cities because that’s where people amass” is a farce. It’s not just a fact but an on-going problem. Have you ever moved somewhere that was nice only to have it suck within a few years because people started moving there? That’s overpopulation. There are too many people that are creating too many more people who will then require communities to support them thus encroaching on larger land areas. “Actually, population is in decline.” Please stop beginning rebuttals with “actually.” That term attempts to completely discredit what the first person says. Anyways, population according to census is NEVER accurate. Population is steadily increasing. No graph will ever prove or disprove this.

        Environmentalism attracts so many people under the guise that they can be ‘better people’ by caring about the planet. Guess what. The planet doesn’t give a flying flip about you. Long after we’re gone the effects of “pollution” won’t even have been a pimple’s-level of nuisance to the planet. Within 200 years our cities will have vanished under brush and rock. People think they speak on behalf of the planet but could have no individual concept of what happens on a global scale. They always cite money. ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY. Want to read a non-ficiton book? Read up about the author and read up about the website where you’re reading up on the author. Chances are they are pushing an agenda fueled by the want to collect “money.”

        Food for thought.

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    39. Real American says:

      There is a difference between Health Insurance and Health Care. Everyone can have insurance, but if no care is available, what do you do then?

      It’s like having a lifetime warranty. Do you want a lifetime warranty or do you want a product that works for a lifetime? A warranty is no better than the company offering it.

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    40. Raider says:

      When you add up the different event pieces such as GMO foods, Obamacare, chemtrail spraying, Agenda 21, massive money printing, etc, it becomes clear that the Federal government is at war against the American people.

      This is a hard reality which must be honestly faced in order to make the hard decisions needed to effectively fight back and defend ourselves.

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    41. Miss DeeDee says:

      My town raising my property tax
      My government raising ALL my taxes
      My P.O.S. Vehicle falling apart
      Food overpriced
      Winter here with all of it’s issues
      Can’t E-Mail or call someone to to talk sexy without all the pervert NSA
      Folks knowing my every fantasy
      Can’t even get into what our supposed leader is doing to us
      — Thank God for my family and all the people here that have opened my eyes
      – HAPPY THANKSGIVING –
      Love,
      Miss Dee Dee

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    42. braveheart says:

      Miss DeeDee, happy thanksgiving to you and yours. braveheart

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    43. Sheepdog says:

      Nothing in Washington DC (or UN) happens by accident, nothing. These creatures knew EXACTLY what was to happen.

      The current outhouse resident was installed to divide while the PTB conquer. The war on terror is truly a war on liberty, always has been.

      Our civliization is traveling the same road as all that have come before. Our exceptionalism is now defined by how quickly we’ve lost our nation.

      The liberty loving American Patriot is all that’s left standing in their way. Let’s die well Bothers and Sisters!

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    44. Sheepdog says:

      Sorry all, I choked…

      Let’s die well Brothers and Sisters!

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    45. Miss DeeDee says:

      Because some folks either chose or were unable to afford health insurance
      OBAMACARE was forced upon us
      Because the cost of our the elderly population to the system
      OGRAMMACARE will be forced upon us
      Because of need to indoctrinate our children into the future way of thinking and life of servitude to the State
      OCOMMONCORE is now the education system
      Because of the willingness of the populace to live for convenience and laziness buying fast food and GMO product
      Our children have become a herd of
      OFATASSES
      When someone questions the reason the world is in such a sad state of decline
      The answer is

      OBECAUSE

      – Miss Dee Dee

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