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    Video: Laying the Groundwork for World War III (USA, Russia, China Circa 2016)

    Mac Slavo
    September 17th, 2014
    SHTFplan.com
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    ww3-usa-china-russia

    Recent years have seen the rise of dangerous rhetoric from the world’s major super powers. Russia, China and the United States have all made it clear that they will not take nuclear weapons off the table and officials in all of these nations have made overt threats that force will be used to defend their interests.

    Over the last several years we’ve witnessed some key developments that are reminiscent of the posturing that eventually lead to the start of the Great War in 1914.

    Russian and Chinese submarines, for example, have been spotted within a few hundred miles of both, the eastern and western, U.S. shores. In 2012, residents of the west coast captured photos and video of what appeared to be a missile contrail just off Southern California at the very same time that President Obama was in meetings with Chinese leaders. Though the U.S. government later claimed that the contrail was an airplane, expert analysis suggests otherwise.

    This year the heat has really been turned up.

    The supposed stability that led to U.S. troop withdrawals in Iraq has collapsed as Islamic State militants make their way across the region pillaging towns and murdering detractors by the thousands. But, while the threat of terrorism from these militants could lead to attacks on U.S. soil, nothing comes close to what a conflagration with Russia might look like.

    In just the last sixty days U.S. defense agencies claim that no less than 16 strategic bomber missions originating from Russia have been detected along the U.S. west coast. That the Russians are engaging in such activities now, after they’ve laid claim to portions of the Ukraine, is telling because this is the first time since the cold war that Russian incursions have come this close to America. Moreover, a suspicious outage to U.S. traffic control systems in May of this year came at the same time that Russian subs were being detected in the vicinity of the West coast. Some analysts have suggested that the outages were not accidental and may have been caused by either a cyber attack or a novel weapons system not yet known publicly.

    As you’ll see in the video below the pieces seem to be dropping right into place. And world leaders are not at all afraid to suggest that a global war is an option they’re prepared to exercise should the right set of circumstances take place.

    World War 3 is coming Russia,USA,China 2015-2016 via NWOreport.me :

    In the early 1900’s, Europeans, Russians, Americans and the rest of the world were enjoying a period of relative peace. No one could have predicted that the assassination of a Crowne Prince in Yugoslavia could lead to a war involving most of the developed countries of the world and the deaths of tens of millions of people.

    In the blink of an eye the world went from sipping espressos in Paris cafes to years-long trench battles along the Eastern and Western European fronts.

    The groundwork had been laid for years in advance. And then it happened. Fast.

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    Date: September 17th, 2014
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    1. Charley Waite says:

      Why wait so song? Strike while the iron is hot, scumbags

      • The Stig's American Cousin says:

        Propaganda, me thinks…….

        • SolitaryMan says:

          ….. and the boll weevil said to the farmer

          you better sell your old machine

          cause when I get done with your cotton fields

          you won’t be able to buy the gasoline

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

            More “Wag the Dog”

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

              US Military still trying to make everyone think they are still relevant. Got to keep the Mil Complex fat n happy. Belly up to the Federal Pig Trough.

              • sixpack says:

                Correct, WWTI. Russians have been doing maneuvers in the upper west coast for DECADES. They have land interests up there. The globe is round, after all. This piece is just more fear mongering of the type to push consensus for WW3. We don’t need to hurry that along—we just THINK we do.

                We need to focus on the U.S. government who, at this point, is leaving our asses bare to whatever the southern wind blows our way.

                FORGET RUSSIA. FORGET CHINA. FOCUS ON WHAT THE REAL TERRORISTS ARE PLANNING, RIGHT HERE AT HOME.

                • Anonymous says:

                  I’m not concerned about ISIS/terrorists. I am concerned about Ebola. But I’m very, very stressed out about the situation in Ukraine!!! I’m afraid Apocalypse is on our doorstep and in the form of WW3.

                  This is the point: the US is not about to let go of Ukraine. They have invested billions of dollars to control the situation there. (Leaked video at Democracy Now!)

                  US wants it to become a part of the EU/NATO. This would be good for the Corporate states of America and for the IMF(austerity measures like in Greece). Also, its rich in natural resources. Furthermore, they do not want to let Russia have control of it as they could potentially build up to become the USSR again.

                  And Russia is not about to let it go either– Ukraine has been a buffer which has allowed them to fend of invasions in the past. Putin has stated that they will not tolerate NATO on their borders!

                  The US is sanctioning the crap out of Russia, regardless of what Russia does or does not do… at some point, Putin will get tired of the US aggression.

                  They have said they will not tolerate NATO on their borders… yet the US has more ships in the Black sea, more troops on Russia’s borders, NATO on her border and now this morning, Congressional meeting in the US for financial aid to Ukraine.. all very scary!

                  Please read Chris Hedges’ latest articles/videos on this. (Also, Paul Craig Roberts and also Global Research).

          • slingshot says:

            “Looking for a home. Got to find a home.”

            That is a song out of the ages.

            • KY Mom says:

              Poroshenko Tells US Congress “Russia Has Invaded Ukraine, Need Lethal Aid” – Live Feed

              In a passionate speech to a joint meeting of Congress, Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko dropped some tape-bombs:
              •*POROSHENKO SAYS RUSSIA `HAS NOW INVADED UKRAINE’
              •*POROSHENKO SAYS UKRAINE `URGENTLY’ NEEDS LETHAL AID
              •*POROSHENKO WARNS RUSSIANS WILL NEXT CROSS EUROPEAN BORDER

              Zerohedge

              • sixpack says:

                I’ve posted this before. I’ll post it again, since some of us are still stuck on stupid. Here’s why we can’t believe one fucking thing Poroschenko has to say…

                Ukraine President Once Agent for U.S. State Department
                by Michael Collins

                Is he still working for his former masters in Washington, DC?

                Two diplomatic messages from the WikiLeaks Public Library on U.S. Diplomacy indicate that newly elected President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko was an agent for United States State Department.

                A confidential message from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev on April 29, 2006 mentions the newly elected Ukraine president twice ” During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko emphatically denied he was using his influence with the Prosecutor General to put pressure on Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr.”

                ”During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko denied that he was behind Prosecutor General Oleksandr Medvedko’s recent decision to issue an arrest warrant for Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr Turchynov. ” [to] question him about the alleged destruction of SBU [Ukraine intel] files on organized crime figure Seymon Mogilievich.” [Russian Mafia Boss of Bosses]

                –WikiLeaks Public Library of U.S. Diplomacy

                http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ukraine-President-Once-Age-by-Michael-Collins-Agents_Petro-Poroshenko_Russia_State-Department-140609-372.html

              • Anonymous says:

                I think Porky-shinko is freaking out because he did what the Ukrainians DID NOT want him to do–which is to place Ukriane in with the EU and now the people are rebelling and he (as usual) is whining with more lies to the US!! (He can’t control the plebs and so is asking for help from Big Brother). And of course, the US will gladly come to his aid–after all, they are the ones who put him up to this– that’s why the US govt placed him in power!

                You can’t start a war without propaganda and the MSM and Ukraine leader are certainly doing their part! Watch out! War is coming! (Only thing is, this time it will be on OUR doorstep as well!!)

      • Ghostrighter says:

        “Russian and Chinese submarines, for example, have been spotted within a few hundred miles of both, the eastern and western, U.S. shores.”

        WHO CARES!

        I’m more worried about the Muslim terrorists at the Mexican border and the one in D.C.

        • Iowa says:

          I’m more worried about the blacks in Ferguson starting riots to disrupt the World Series if the Cardinals get to the Playoffs/World Series if the cop is charged…

          Google it.

          • Iowa says:

            On a side note, I don’t pay taxes and carry a gun everywhere.

            GOD BLESS AMERICA!

            • helot says:

              Ah-hem, you mean, “May god Bless America”.

              Otherwise, it seems like you’re commanding God, when you say, “God bless America”.

              That’s widespread these days.

              Hubris, I think they call it.

              • Charley Waite says:

                troll much?

              • DMONIC says:

                @ helot

                STFU. WTF is with you bible thumpers? Get over yourselves.

                • swampratt says:

                  DMONIC If you have a problem with the( CREATOR ) Then all your prepping wont help you when he sticks a hot
                  iron rod up your ass……..

                • jaxx says:

                  Hm. I usually tend to keep my religious inclinations to myself…but many don’t. Many Muslims will kill and pillage until you convert. Certain branches of Christianity evangelize a lot. I would say that the worst offender by a wide margin are atheists, who loudly and frequently proclaim that anyone who entertains the notion of an entity more powerful or wiser than ourselves is a moron. They, however, are “enlightened” ones who have a surefire lock on the ultimate truth, e.g. that there never was and never could be a god higher than themselves and anyone who thinks or suspects differently are troglodytes not worthy of respect or dignity.

                  THOSE are the guys that may need to “get over themselves”. IMHO. Me? I’ll be bringing my family to church in the morning. Because while my faith is not solid as a rock, I do feel that I don’t have all the answers I want yet, and I guess I’m just the type to keep seeking until I know as much as I feel I can. Plus, there are always a lot of happy people at church. I like that. I want to be happy.

            • Barn Cat says:

              No, God is getting ready to destroy America because of its sins. 57 million murdered unborn babies. A government, educational system, media, and entertainment industry that increasingly mocks God, hates Christians, and hates Christianity.

              • NewVegasBadger says:

                Correct call Barn Cat! America will NOT go unpunished for her colletive sins. God is not and never will be mocked. It maybe too late for this the FUSA, but there is still time for each one of us. I know that I will be mocked for this but so what: Repent NOW, turn away from your sins, while there is still time to do so. Judgement Day is coming. Be prepared, things are going to get very ugly soon.

                • sixpack says:

                  I doubt God will punish all of “America”, because he does not punish the innocent. NOT ALL Americans are knowingly/willingly a part of this degradation of American society.

                  • Ranger Rick says:

                    Hey dude if you pay taxes to the criminal USG you are guilty as two boys f-ucking on the white house lawn.Which considering that faggot and cross dresser in the white house would be politically correct.

              • Pissed Off Granny says:

                Yep,Barncat, Jesus Christ must be thoroughly disgusted with this country that he heaped all those blessings on.

                Just for starters, here is one of those Jewish friends of yours, Noel Ignative, a professor at Harvard and also Massachussets College of Art, and also an ADMITTED COMMUNIST.

                He has for years advocated for the total elimination of Caucasions. During a final lecture at the Massachussets college he told his white male students, “you don’t deserve to live, you are a cancer, a disease, white males have never contributed anything positive to the world. They only murder, exploit and oppress non whites. At least a white woman can have sex with a black man and make a brown baby, but what can a white man do?

                He is good for nothing. Slavery, genocide against aboriginal people, and massive land confiscation, the inquisition of the holocaust, white males are are all to blame. You maintain your white male privilege by oppressing, discriminating against all, and enslaving others.”

                More…..

                “Obviously, ALL whites need to be destroyed, but why not start with white males? They are behind most of histories greatest atrocities. Besides, some of the brothers (Negroes) like to bang white women. Eventually white women can be bred out, but my feeling is that if you are a white male, you should kill yourself now. If you are a thoughtful person with a social consciousness who considers himself white, YOU WILL CONSIDER SUICIDE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.”
                _______________

                The first thing I noticed when I saw a picture of Ignatieu was that he looked like a “white male”. Why then, would he not take his own advoce and commit suicide?

                For some reason he does not consider himself a Caucasion. Know why? Because he knows he is not. Same as those “talking heads” on the MSM who look white.

                Ignatieu, an admitted Communist party Jew, is allowed to spit this evil as a professor in some of our most “elite” colleges. That certainly helps explains why some of our college educated kids are coming out of school with such a skewed look at the world.

                Why have we allowed this trash to become a college professor. Something is damned wrong when someone speaks the truth of the control of America in the hands of the Zionist Jews is considered “hate speech” yet this Communist Jew is allowed to spew this trash in a classroom.

                Spend some time checking Ignatieu’s background. It will make your blood boil.

                Most of the atrocities he has blamed on “the white male” has been planned and carried out by HIS own blood brothers, the Zionist Jew. You can start with the Bolshevik Revolution. Those Zionists hide behind “whitey” to this day….carrying out their evil plan to rule the world.

                Yep, Barncat, we have opened the barn door, and allowed your “chosen” to destroy every value “whitey” set up in this country. God will have his revenge all right. He says in Revelation he will tear Jerusaleum to the ground in the end days, topple Satan who will be on the throne there at that time, and destroy all the non believers in Christ forever.

                Those Jews living in Israel CANNOT believe in Jesus Christ and be a citizen of Israel according to a law of their supreme court, so there will be a whole host of non believers when Christ returns to cleanse the earth.

                • Ranger Rick says:

                  So once again the solution is for God to come back to kill all the sinners and rule the nations with a rod of iron. I think you have been brain washed out your mind to pray for destruction at the hands of a vengeful God instead of growing a set of balls and throwing off the yoke of oppression yourself. It wouldn’t take violence just non participation. Repudiate the debt and refuse the federal reserve note currency as a medium of exchange. Non participation in mass would break the back of the criminal USG and their whore bankers. But that sounds too much like a real solution as opposed to death and destruction at the hands of a vengeful god.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

            Nothing to Fear but the psychopaths that run our Government into massive debt. When you are about to default into bankruptcy, why not max out your credit cards and go buy a new car anyway. Just watch our Government try to Bomb its way back to solvency. ISIS sounds like a good Crisis.

        • Township Rebellion says:

          Obama Sin Laden – The most wanted terrorist on the planet…

        • helot says:

          RE: “I’m more worried about the Muslim terrorists at the Mexican border”

          Why?

          Are they gonna blow up some cactus?

          Have you ever been there?

          Hundreds of miles of cactus.

          Are you worried they might drive into the area above that?

          What would they target?

          The local WalMart?

          Why are you afraid?

          I guess the pussification of America is complete?

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

            And they have calves the size of cantalopes. Nothing like a hard working Mexican trying to replace and take away jobs from a lazy Black on welfare and EBT Food Stamps.

          • KY Mom says:

            speaking of the southern border…

            Doctor: Gov’t ‘Tight-Lipped’ on Respiratory Virus, May be From Illegals

            “Dr. Jane Orient, Executive Director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, reported that the government has been “real tight-lipped” about the mysterious respiratory illness that has struck children in the United States, expressed concern that the illegal immigrant minors from Central America could be the source, and argued that the government should devote more resources to border security…”

            “…it only takes ONE infected child to infect the whole classroom.”

            Orient added “we don’t know where it’s coming from…are there immigrants from Central America, where this disease has allegedly been prevalent before?”

            “She also spoke about the risks posed by drug resistant tuberculosis, saying “virtually ALL of the cases of drug resistant TB that have been discovered in the United States are in foreign born individuals, and the vast majority of any type of TB is in a person who was born in a foreign country.

            It is a public health nightmare to just have one of these cases in your community because the person needs to be quarantined…and you could catch TB on a bus, there is no question about that.”

            Ebola – “it’s very, very contagious, it only takes between 5 and 10 virus particles to infect a person. You don’t have to have cuts…there are receptors for the viruses in [people’s] normal skin.”

            And “it’s extremely transmissible that’s why people who like the idea of killing off 90% of population say it would be an ideal agent for accomplishing that. There have been attempts to weaponize it…but you don’t really need an ICBM warhead to transmit this, just some infected people coming across your border.”

            “She further stressed that the government should devote more resources to securing the border to prevent the spread of disease.”

            Breitbart

          • Any Mouse says:

            Have you ever been near the border? By your response I would guess not.

            Corpus Christi TX — Major Port, Oil Refineries

            Brownsville TX — Small to medium sized City, Lies on a major NorthSouth Transportation Corridor.

            El Paso/Ft.Bliss TX — Sizable City. Lies on a major EastWest Transportation Route

            South Central New Mexico — Cattle Stockyards/Dairy

            Tuscon AZ — Sizable City, Lies on a major EastWest Transportation Route

            Palo Verde Nuclear Power Plant AZ — While this does not lie directly near the border, It is only a couple hundred miles north and in a relatively close proximity to the Phoenix Metro area.

            Yuma AZ — Small to midsized City. Military Airfields and lies on a major EastWest Transportation Corridor.

            San Diego CA — Mid to large City, Military Bases, Lies on both an EastWest and NorthSouth major Transportation Corridors.

        • Lafreak says:

          Now thats propaganda, worrying about Mexican terrorists. If the US is going to get hit by terrorism then they are probably already in the country.
          Australia Today had raids all over the country regarding anti terrorism.
          Sydney has a massive Muslim population and most are middle eastern and we haven’t had a terrorist attack yet. SO i would worry about Russia siding with Syria if the US decide to drop bombs there. Then China will side with Russia and Iran etc along with North Korea and then its on.

          • sixpack says:

            Maybe so, but none of those countries are likely to try to fight long-distance, by bringing the fight to American soil.

            The United States is the interloper over there…not American civilians over here. There are still SOME LEADERS who have some common sense left, even if OURS does not.

        • maddog says:

          You may want to care. Four nights ago there was a light moving across the sky here in Reno. Our wonderful so called news station “looked into the mystery of the light”. Turns out they said the Navy told them they launch 3 Trident missiles off the California coast. The fucking “news” sheeple were so excited they figured out the cause of the mystery. What a joke, I said to my wife those are the Navies nuclear ballistic submarine missiles you would think someone would ask why they were being launched. No one ever did. We are so fucked.

      • Rodster says:

        Agreed !

        Somebody needs to push the goddamn reset button already. This c*** tease has been going on long enough.

      • DaveM says:

        The enemies of the USA know that as long as Obama and the Libs are in power the country grows continually weaker on all fronts and more polarized internally.
        They also know the dollar will have collapsed by then, with resulting chaos/riots essentially crippling what once was the USA. They’ll just let us bleed & decay as long as possible, then throw a few well-placed nukes. No need for M.A.D. or world destruction.

    2. The Stig's American Cousin says:

      Yes, and the next time Matthew Broderick plays a video game, it will tear a hole in the Universe.

    3. eppe says:

      We are soooo screwed…..

    4. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      I say let all the war monger go kill each other they love death and to kill. Then after those creeps are dead, we will enjoy life again. Only the Preppers and the Meek shall inherit the earth.

    5. Basstard says:

      The whole world is itching for a fight. Even within the American border, different groups hate each other, Black /white. Left/right. Muslim/Christian. Rich/poor. I don’t see how American and world affairs can be resolved peacefully at this point. Everybody is pissed.

      • helot says:

        The Bassatard says, “at this point. Everybody is pissed.”

        Maybe that’s what T.P.T.B. want you and all the rest of the world to feel?

        Myself, I’m kinda disappointed.

        I had higher hopes after the fall of The Wall.

        Since then, I’ve kept a check on my emotions so’s I’m not easily manipulated by shysters, politicians, and ‘wanna be’s’ who seek to rule me by every name under the Sun.

      • Bohica1 says:

        Meant to up vote you, fat finger…sorry!
        Without God, or commonality among our diverse population, nationalism, national identity, cripes even a common language! Our so called country ( the one lacking a southern border) is doomed.

      • Gonetoolong says:

        I know I am pissed. I am not the type to go all fetal and ball up in the corner though. I often see black and white, but so often does the other side as well. Sometimes shit does just have to be settled.

    6. saying that russia and China have been putting subs and bombers around US west coast is akin to the pot calling the kettle black. Im too lazy to google but check out :”russia wants war, they put their country by all our military bases”. This blatent, sickening hypocracy.

    7. LONER says:

      3 large countries, where in various ways, the governments disdain their people in matters that affect them most of all. 3 large countries where the media narrative is controlled by a very few people with direct ties to government. 3 large countries where the people just want to work, raise children and try to enjoy life.

      Yes – sounds like billions want to go to war, doesn’t it??

    8. Da Yooper says:

      Never happen

      why you axe ?

      the bankers cant afford a nuc war

      it would put them out of bidness

      lots of middle east type wars

      but nuc’s nope not going to happen

    9. Southpaw says:

      Good Lord this time would be difficult for a good leader with a strong country. I don’t see the next ten years as anything but a downgrade.

      • Winston Smith says:

        Oh, there is one already. His name is Vladimir Putin, and the country is Russia. Sadly though, he’s not on our side. I don’t think he want’s war with us, but I am willing to be that the morons we keep putting in office will push him hard enough that he has no choice but to shove back. Right now, we are trying to put all of the traditional buffer countries that protected Russia from the rest of Europe into our pockets, and that just won’t sit well with a chess player like Putin.

        • Anonymous says:

          Oh my.

          And are you Putin’s manure scraper too?

          You have not the slightest idea of what you’re saying, nor of what you’re talking about.

          You’re just a parrot. Repeating what you’re told, regurgitating what you’re fed. You are exercising not a shred of independent thinking, nor enunciating not a shred of insight into the reality of what you claim to know.

          My oh my.

        • Anonymous says:

          Thanks you, Winston! Fianlly, someone with something worthy to say! (and a few others on the board…).

          • Winston Smith says:

            The thing is, most people don’t realize the history of what is going on here. The idea of buffer states goes back to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Nazi Germany and Stalin’s USSR. Stalin eventually got his way, but it was Churchill and Truman who gave it to him at Yalta. Gorbachev had a verbal agreement with Bush Sr. not to let these nations into NATO after the dissolution of the USSR, which the US promptly broke. Putin is just trying to maintain a historical boundary between Russia and the West, dividing each’s sphere of influence. By stomping all over this border it looks to the Russians like we are threatening their borders.

            Crimea has traditionally been part of Russia. It only became part of Ukraine when both nations were republics in the USSR and the USSR had it’s first Ukrainian leader- Nikita Khrushchev (1956). The sad thing is that most people fail to try and understand the history and instead form positions from a state of ignorance and small bits of knowledge gleaned from popular news sites. They never try to understand the other side of the equation.

    10. David says:

      I’m already bending over to place my head squarely in rectum. I want to have a “leg-up” when the lights go out!

    11. someoneElse says:

      Worry for what? Whatever happens happens.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        Its not like we can do anything about any of this crap anyway is there.

        • helot says:

          RE: “Its not like we can do anything about any of this crap anyway is there.”

          Maybe so, but we can attempt to enlighten as many as will listen so we can maybe have them at our six when SHTF and do some garage sale exchanges for what we need?

          The big Plus is, if they listen, they might even have something we want to trade for?

          So I guess, on a local level, there Is something we can do about all this crap.

    12. Liberty John says:

      The “reset” some of you want will come. Question is will it be via multiple warhead ICBM’s or an economic collapse? They always seem to have an answer for every economic ill. Stock market keeps hitting new highs even with the constant bombardment of bad news so who knows, they may keep this going for years to come…..

    13. Sgt. Dale says:

      Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      China with subs and bombers!
      Russia with subs and bombers!
      ISIS coming over the southern border!
      Sick kids coming over the southern border!
      EBOLA on the east coast at a hospital, and in the Midwest!
      The economy falling apart!
      Hellery running for Prez.!
      Food prices going sky high!
      What is a Patriot to do?
      Answer—— LOCK AND LOAD—–PRAY!!!
      AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
      Sgt.

      • Right you are Sarge!!!

      • the renegade braveheart says:

        Good evening, Sarge. THIS patriot is continuing with his prepping, in addition to lock and load and praying.

        • Sgt. Dale says:

          RBH

          Wife just picked up more stuff at the grocery store to put in the stock pile. Great Gal!!!!

          Hey don’t you have a gun show coming up?

          I just picked up another Nagant. This time it is a Type 53 Chinese. Cheap under $125.00. Barrel is in great shape, strong rifling, and no rust. Now the stock is beat to S#$t. If I can’t clean it up I will CAMO it. This is what I did to my M44 Russian.

          I don’t know if you have one, but it hits very hard and I’m hearing that the military AMMO you get is armor piercing. 440 round is around $100.00 bucks.

          I know you have Bertha, maybe Bertha needs a Brother, Igor.

          Stay safe and happy shopping at the gun show.
          A.S.M.S.
          Sgt.

          • Winston Smith says:

            It’s still that cheap for ammo? Hmmm… I think I need to go buy another gun!

            • Sgt. Dale says:

              W.S.
              I did some research on this rifle.
              1891`to today. Ammo has got some history. Today the best round is the 147 to 150 Gr. Most ammo from Russia is steal cored. (AP) Kinda.
              There are some hunting rounds from 150 GR Sp. to 203Gr Sp. This Ammo runs around 17.00 a box.
              My Finnish M39 likes the 150 Gr. Slug
              My Russian M44 likes the 150 Gr. Slug
              My Type 53. Well I don’t know yet I just got it on 09/17/14. Cleaning it up. More than likely I will be shooting it on Friday.
              The FMJ 175 grain bullet is what I got for $100. plus shipping on G.B.
              Good Luck.
              Sgt.

          • the renegade braveheart says:

            Sarge, I forgot to mention I just found out the day before that our gun show has been rescheduled for Oct. 11-12. At least I’ll have time to scrape up some extra bucks. Bertha doe shave 2 other ‘team mates’, an M1 Carbine and a Ruger 10/22. One more ‘team mate’ could be very helpful, if you know what I mean.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        I dunno Sarge, think maybe pray n keep your head down,,
        Out of sight out of mind eh.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey Sarge, Can I share your comment with some talent agent in Nashville? Looks good for a sad country song. We share the profit.

    14. River Rat says:

      The mellow-drama that’s being perpetrated on the world has been going on for a very long time; the only thing that changes is the hired/paid actors. Will it keep on going; you bet it will for as long as the directors want it to. The only thing that is waiting in the wings of the stage to stop the next scene is A NATURAL DISASTER. Yes that is going to happen sooner more than later and when it does there is your reset button. That event will drop the curtain quickly, and there will be no curtain call when it happens. IMHO the directors will not know what to do; they are not preparing for that kind of event. What they are prepared for is one they engineer and control. So keep preparing and wait for what may come.

      River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!
      TSORIITA/GPTDY!!

      • Hunter says:

        River Rat.>

        That is exactly what I expect also, per an unexpected/unimagined mega-natural disaster..to toss the plans of the wicked one(s) into confusion, whilst they’re in mid-stride of a global strategy / offensive op.

        From the collective(governments), down to the individual.
        The solution set will be binary…right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, truth vs. lies and honor vs. cowardice!!!

        ..call it a case of ‘GOD’…vetoing/scrubbing the script of his enemies.

        .and true to his nature..it’ll cut both ways. We’re gonna be forced to choose sides!

        I think its coming, soon!

        GOD Bless & watch your six.

        • I’ve been thinking the same. That it will be something that blind sides EVERYONE and something most, even the best aren’t totally prepared for.

          And with three of the four blood moons left in the next year and a half…who knows when it will happen, but I think soon?

    15. No rights anymore says:

      It’s not a question of if but when everything will go belly up. We are on a fence and could go either way. I’m just glad I had my eyes opened early in the game and prepared for whatever comes next. Just keep the faith and keep watching. I’m sure in time the “plan” will show its ugly face.

    16. Wagondriver says:

      Doesn’t look good folks. Everything lining up.
      Could scotlands independence be the trigger?

    17. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      In any war or those coming after you for no good reason to do you harm, study your opponent, their habits routines, their movements, their weak points, their gaps, their fraud. They all go home at night like everybody else. You avoid playing on their battlefield, and you choose your battle on your watch. There was a great book to read about 20 yrs ago called. “Positioning” basically you choose the upper ground, the corner office by the bosses office. The higher sitting chair, and if someone calls you and catches you off guard, you tell them you will call them back. Then you get prepared to do battle and call and catch them off guard and unprepared. Know how to play the game. Be the Master of any battlefield. Mix up your own routine. And please shut the WiFi and GPS function off, on your cell phone.

    18. slingshot says:

      Did you hear about the Scotsman who lost a quarter?

      You never will. ;0)

      • Jim in Va. says:

        I know the Scotsman who lost a quarter in the outhouse…whipped out a five dollar bill and threw it down. his buddy asked”why did you throw the fiver down the hole?” He replied,”you didn’t think I was going to go down and retrieve the money just for a quarter did you?”

    19. cccvvv says:

      Everyone in the military says this is normal. We do it all the time to them and they do it to us.

    20. Socrates says:

      Wow. What a mad, mad, mad, mad world we live in.
      This powder keg is sooo primed to go off…

      It’s Not Just The Police – The Feds Are Also Militarizing Public Schools With Grenade Launchers, M16s & Tanks

      (From ZeroHedge site)

      Events last month in Ferguson, Missouri (read my detailed thoughts here) forced Americans to confront the frightening reality that many of of the nation’s police departments have been quietly, but consistently, militarizing over the past couple of decades. It’s one thing to intellectually understand that this has happened, it’s quite another to see cops deploy tanks and point sniper rifles at peacefully protesting U.S. citizens.

      Just as disturbing as the scenes themselves, is the fact that this has been happening for so long under the 1033 transfer program with only muted criticism. The program was originated in the late 1990′s under the National Defense Authorization Act of 1997 (recall that the NDAA is also being used to allow for the indefinite detention of American citizens without trial), and it allows for the transfer of excess Department of Defense equipment to domestic police. In other words, it has been public policy for almost two decades to militarize the police.

      With the issue squarely still in the public consciousness, it would behoove us to understand that this program is not only arming police with weapons of war. In fact, public schools are also receiving such items, including grenade launchers, M16s and MRAPs.

      The Wall Street Journal reports that:

      A federal program that has drawn criticism in recent weeks for supplying surplus military gear to local police has also provided high-powered rifles, armored vehicles and other equipment to police at public schools, some of whom were unprepared for what they were getting.

      In the wake of school shootings in Newtown, Conn., and elsewhere, some school security departments developed SWAT teams, added weapons and called on the federal government to help supply gear. But now, the program is facing renewed scrutiny from both outside observers and schools using it.

      The Los Angeles Unified School District stocked up on grenade launchers, M16 rifles and even a multi-ton armored vehicle from the program. But the district is getting rid of the grenade launchers, which it never intended to use to launch grenades or use in a school setting, said Steven Zipperman, chief of the Los Angeles Schools Police Department. The launchers, received in 2001, might have helped other police in the county disperse crowds by shooting rubber munitions, he said.

      In July, the district received a massive MRAP armored vehicle. Mr. Zipperman said his department thought it could be useful for evacuations and to save lives in a “sustained incident.”

    21. Turnthekey says:

      Turnthekeys!!!!!!!!

    22. warcomenow says:

      this world needs to be purified of all dirtbags of all nationalities. Why are corporation puppets running our government? Money? Power? this will end soon for all sinners! prepare cause it’s coming!

    23. ORANGE PEACH says:

      I want to have one last party.

    24. Satori says:

      UK Hints At Next Reserve Currency, To Issue Chinese Yuan-Denominated Bond

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-15/uk-hints-next-reserve-currency-issue-chinese-yuan-denominated-bond

      the attack against the dollar just got taken up a notch big time

    25. Satori says:

      The U.S. Has Already Completed Regime Change In Syria (1949), Iran (1953), Iraq (Twice), Afghanistan (Twice), Turkey, Libya and Other Oil-Rich Countries

      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/u-s-already-completed-regime-change-syria-iran-iraq-twice-oil-rich-countries.html

      today’s history lesson

    26. oldseventy says:

      more propaganda, no one has to fight us, our government is destroying us.

    27. River Rat says:

      Every day someone will move the collapse back 1, 2, 3 years from now. Why, because no one knows (well, maybe a few) when. I’m sick and tired of all the articles about this will and that will (sorry to all you writers out there). So if you want a firm date of the COLLASPE here it is in the year 2525 no mistake about it. Here’s what will happen every man, woman, and child, all buildings everything will cease to go on, everything, but alas one; the COCK-ROACH it will live forever, with the rocks. Look back in history we are talking decades, it can’t keep going, I just don’t see how it can keep going on like this, it just can’t, and here we are today this very day saying it CAN’T KEEP GOING ON LIKE THIS. Keep preparing, because NO it can’t keep going on, no way. It’s coming and HELL’S coming with it. Beans, (well Rice to) Bullets, and Band-Aids are truly the things of WINNERS. Rant over Thanks to all.

      River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!
      TSORIITA/GPTDY!!

    28. Satori says:

      more good advice from Selco

      “Lesson here is to not be arrogant because you are a survivalist or prepper.”

      Decision Making in Survival Situations

      http://shtfschool.com/survival-psychology/decision-making-in-survival-situations/

    29. Satori says:

      It’s Time for a Prepper Reality Check

      http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/its-time-for-a-prepper-reality-check-08162014

      “If you aren’t realistic about your skills and your physical abilities, you are likely to be just as dead as the guy down the road who considers the two extra bags of Doritos in his pantry to be a food stockpile.”

      • Kulafarmer says:

        A reality check is definitely a good thing, for myself I have no illusions that I will be a Rambo and come out the other side amidst a huge explosion and a victory against overwhelming odds, The reality is that I could go to the dirt from a 22LR fired by my crazy neighbor trying to get a chicken in the road! or just as easily if TSHTF be rounded up as an enemy because I live in a complete socialist kiss ass state and have the tendency to speak my mind.
        The reality is NONE of us know what or when or any of that, and by NONE I mean everybody, and especially the what or when, ANYTHING could be the catalyst, civility is hanging by a thread, the camels back is sagging to the ground but TPTB are trying to heap more on it as we go through our lives just trying to keep the bills from being too far overdue. its a mad mad world out there and NOBODY has a foolproof plan. NOBODY

        • slingshot says:

          I am sure most of us has had an “Oh, Shit” experience.
          The you tube is the best place to see what others had seen. Especially explosions or those racing cars plowing into the spectators. What people say is something else.
          What they do is even more surprising. Air show as planes hit the ground. That is what it is going to be like. Sudden. They can’t get their fat ass in gear fast enough to get out of the way of disaster.

    30. Satori says:

      Authority & Stereotypes Post Collapse

      http://shtfschool.com/survival-psychology/authority-stereotypes-post-collapse/

      “Just like folks in my case 20 years ago before SHTF believed mostly that cops must be good guys because they are cops, I am noticing opinion that today cops must be BAD guys just because they are cops.”

    31. Barn Cat says:

      I think World War III is coming. I just don’t know when. The video doesn’t address the timeline given of 2015-2016.

    32. douseeyet says:

      The propaganda (sales) continues………

      More than likely a small nuke will be set off by the CIA on US soil to blame Russia and China for an attack against us so we can start WW3. Count on it right around the time China wants to cash in it’s trillion dollars in US bonds.

    33. Warchild Dammit! says:

      A good read on survival night skills: ht tp://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2014/09/17/repost-bracken-night-fighting-101/#comments ,as author pointed out some skills known by hunters already but still worth the read,that said,space in http to avoid the “Moderation Game”.

    34. TheGuy says:

      Laughs hysterically at the jet contrail theory.

      Even IF true… “Norad states that a jet poses no threat to National security”…

      ._.

      ._.

      ._.

      Irony, much??

    35. I’m writing to ask for you and the ppl help, for 3 years me and 55 familys have been raising chickens in a small town in up state ny. now the village where we live wants us to kill our chickens cause they don’t think we should have them. what is going on is not right to us and our familys. I ask that you and the ppl are able to help us to stand up for were rigths. thank you for your time

      • sixpack says:

        I would suggest you all stand up together, or all move out of there together, especially if you make up a large proportion of your village. Learn to fight your own small battles, in order to prepare for much larger fights.

    36. Anonymous says:

      As we speak, Poroshenko is addressing our Congress, stating that Russia has invaded Ukraine, so the U.S. must supply Ukraine with lethal support.

      If I thought it would do any good, I would contact my congressman to express my request that we STAY OUT of it.

      Our national debt has just been reported, today, to have increased just this past year by another $1 trillion, and is larger now than all previous presidencies combined.

      Just HOW would we pay for getting involved in Ukraine, even if there were American public support for it, which there is NOT.

      Tax money is being siphoned off to pay for the illegals being allowed to stay here, to pay for EBT, to pay for the grossly obese slobs on welfare who literally are too fat to work, to pay for the generational welfare parasites, to pay for the Afghan conflict in order to secure its natural resources for China’s extraction and exploitation, to pay for the Obamaphones which are being used to organize and incite ever increasing violence against innocent citizens, to pay for the Obama family’s multi-million dollar serial vacations, to pay Communist infiltrator bureaucrats to dream up and implement ever increasing regulations to strip us of our freedom, to pay Communist infiltrator teachers in our public schools to indoctrinate and brainwash our children into becoming dependent, irresponsible, mouthy, unemployable peasants, and to pay off media representatives so that we never, ever get the full and truthful facts on any story of importance if they deign to report a story of importance instead of gossip and social fluff garbage.

      You just don’t know where to start, do you?

      But that has been the Cloward Piven plan all along, hasn’t it?

      • sixpack says:

        Poroschenko is doing exactly what his globalist master told him to do…LIE and BEG.

        Ukraine President Once Agent for U.S. State Department
        by Michael Collins

        Is he still working for his former masters in Washington, DC?

        Two diplomatic messages from the WikiLeaks Public Library on U.S. Diplomacy indicate that newly elected President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko was an agent for United States State Department.

        A confidential message from the U.S. Embassy in Kiev on April 29, 2006 mentions the newly elected Ukraine president twice ” During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko emphatically denied he was using his influence with the Prosecutor General to put pressure on Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr.”

        ”During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko denied that he was behind Prosecutor General Oleksandr Medvedko’s recent decision to issue an arrest warrant for Tymoshenko lieutenant Oleksandr Turchynov. ” [to] question him about the alleged destruction of SBU [Ukraine intel] files on organized crime figure Seymon Mogilievich.” [Russian Mafia Boss of Bosses]

        –WikiLeaks Public Library of U.S. Diplomacy

        http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ukraine-President-Once-Age-by-Michael-Collins-Agents_Petro-Poroshenko_Russia_State-Department-140609-372.html

    37. The Prophet says:

      Almost everything permitted on TV is propaganda. So, if people form their opinions based on what they see on the MSM, then they are reacting just the way TPTB want them to. The Ministry of Propaganda doesn’t have to fool everybody, just enough to put them over the top. America and the West have already been defeated demographically. Antonio Gramsci’s plan has worked. It was devised in the late 1920’s.

    38. Illini Warrior says:

      don’t see 2016 as D-Day year …. sooner …. the US has never been run so inadequately EVER …. and especially the civilian to military communications and relationship ….

      any enemy, planning to attack would be a fool to wait – proven time and again the everlasting long delay in any kind of response out of the White House …. then it’s a jerky half hearted attempt instead of a calculated necessary one …. politics … first and last consideration only …. the country’s health and safety be damned ….

      God help all of us if one or more of our enemies makes a determined strike … it won’t be pretty

    39. The Prophet says:

      Anybody notice the stories about stranded Americans in Cabo after the hurricane? Too scared to leave what’s left of the hotels to go to the airport because of robbers waiting for them. Almost out of food and water. No power. Hey, let’s go have a party in a foreign country. Don’t check the weather reports. Don’t have a plan to get out, just in case. Typical Americans. When I hear of people planning vacations in Mexico, I tell them to check “borderland beat” website before they spend their money on a deposit. They usually change plans and don’t go to Mexico. Americans never get to see what’s going on south of the border. At least not on the boob tube.

    40. STRAIGHT SHOOTER says:

      Its written in Revelations folks.

      So deal with it.

      You are right SGT.

      A.S.M.S.

    41. KY Mom says:

      Islamic terrorists operating in Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez…

      Feds in El Paso: Rep. O’Rourke Called to BAN CONTACT with Judicial Watch

      “Federal law enforcement sources in El Paso say that a United States congressman called their office to prohibit contact with Judicial Watch in the aftermath of a disturbing story confirming that Islamic terrorists are operating in the Mexican border city of Ciudad Juarez.

      Sources tell JW that Beto O’Rourke, a Democrat who represents El Paso in the U.S. House of Representatives, telephoned the area offices of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the U.S. Border Patrol (USBP) in an effort to identify—and evidently intimidate—sources that may have been used by JW.

      On August 29 JW reported that the militant group Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria (ISIS) is working in Juarez and planning to attack the United States with car bombs or other vehicle borne improvised explosive devices (VBIED).

      In the piece JW cites high-level federal law enforcement, intelligence and other sources confirming that a warning bulletin for an imminent terrorist attack on the border has been issued. Agents across a number of Homeland Security, Justice and Defense agencies have all been placed on alert and instructed to aggressively work all possible leads and sources concerning this imminent terrorist threat.

      In the aftermath of JW’s story Ft. Bliss, an El Paso Army base near Juarez, increased security measures and the sheriff in Midland County Texas—located halfway between Ft. Worth and El Paso—confirmed that he received an alert bulletin warning from the feds that ISIS may have formed a terrorist cell in or near Juarez.”

      Meanwhile…
      “The Obama administration steadfastly DENIES that Islamic terrorists are operating in Juarez, even as facts continue to unfold proving otherwise.”
      -Judicial Watch

      Posted 9/17/14 – Four Terrorists Were Captured on US Border on September 10 (Video)

      “Congressman Jason Chaffetz broke this shocking news Wednesday that four known terrorists were apprehended at the US border in Texas on September 10 – the day before the 13th anniversary of the 9-11 attacks.”
      -The Gateway Pundit

    42. good guy says:

      You all might want to watch Glenn Beck today.
      KNOWLEDGE IS POWER !!!!

    43. omegaman says:

      Dumbest video I’ve ever watched. This website is a fucking joke.

    44. WW3 isnt coming…. its already here
      unconventional war is how the bankers play , and this my friends will be as unconventional as we have ever seen

      as it is right now 90% of the population dont even know that we are at war and its already on our shores and deep in our house of leadership

      the propaganda and the false flags and all the hoaxes are all part of this war strap in folks because as it gians speed it will take lives.. man many lives

     
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