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Uh Oh – Please Tell Me That The U.S. Is Not About To Go To War With Venezuela…

Michael Snyder
February 5th, 2019
The Economic Collapse
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This article was originally published by Michael Snyder at The Economic Collapse

Is the United States about to be dragged into another pointless war that will drag on for years? Have we learned nothing form the wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq? When Juan Guaido boldly declared himself the new leader of Venezuela during an opposition rally on January 23rd, everybody realized that something was up. There is no way that he ever would have done that unless he knew in advance that the United States was going to publicly back him.  And when John Bolton appeared at a White House briefing with “5,000 troops to Colombia” scribbled on a yellow note pad, it became exceedingly clear what was about to happen. Diplomatic pressure would be used to try to force Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro from power, but if that didn’t work then regime change would be achieved by force.

Maduro has seen this playbook before, and he has told the Venezuelan people that if “the North American empire attacks us, we will have to defend ourselves”. He is officially freaked out, and for good reason.

The push toward war is officially on, and over the weekend Donald Trump told CBS reporter Margaret Brennan that sending U.S. troops to Venezuela is “an option” that is being considered…

MARGARET BRENNAN: What would make you use the U.S. military in Venezuela? What’s the national security interest?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Well, I don’t want to say that. But certainly it’s something that’s on the – it’s an option.

Yes, Nicolas Maduro is an absolutely horrible leader, but do we get to overthrow the governments of other countries just because we don’t like who is in charge?

And how would you feel if somebody else decided to attack us because they don’t like who is in the White House?

The U.S. was the first major power to recognize Juan Guaido as the “legitimate” president of Venezuela, and now the UK and most other European nations have also backed Guaido.

But Russia and China continue to back Maduro, and so that sets up a very interesting situation.

Will the western powers go ahead with their plans for regime change even though the international community is divided?

In particular, Russia has a very strong incentive to keep Maduro in power. The following comes from Zero Hedge

“Russia is now so deeply invested in the Maduro regime that the only realistic option is to double down,” writes senior fellow at the Carnegie Moscow Center Alexander Gabuev.

He details in a Financial Times op-ed that Moscow-based state oil giant Rosneft owns two offshore gas fields in Venezuela and further has “stakes in assets boasting more than 20m tonnes of crude.” But as embattled President Nicolas Maduro faces US-led efforts to oust him in favor of opposition leader Juan Guaido, billions are on the line for Moscow making its interest in preserving the regime run deep.

So just like in Syria and Ukraine, the U.S. and Russia once again find themselves on opposite sides in a very tense conflict.

This crisis could end very quickly if Maduro steps down, but that isn’t going to happen. In fact, he was quite defiant when the major European powers decided to recognize Guaido…

He also rejected European calls for elections, saying: “We don’t accept ultimatums from anyone. I refuse to call for elections now – there will be elections in 2024. We don’t care what Europe says.”

And he warned Trump that this will be a war that “will leave the presidency stained with blood”

“Stop. Stop, Trump! Hold it right there! You are making mistakes that will leave your hands covered in blood and you will leave the presidency stained with blood,” Maduro warned during a combative interview with the Spanish journalist Jordi Évole. “Why would you want a repeat of Vietnam?

That certainly doesn’t sound like someone that intends to throw in the towel. Maduro has the Venezuelan military and the Venezuelan police solidly behind him, and former State Department official Eric Farnsworth thinks that it is unlikely that Maduro will leave without violence…

“If people are not prepared to take steps designed to support the nascent Guaido government, this could flop and that would be a huge setback,” Farnsworth said. “Does that mean the ultimate answer is U.S. troops? I don’t think that’s a healthy conversation to have. If Maduro wants to have U.S. troops at his doorstep, he’ll start targeting U.S. citizens.”

Farnsworth said the only scenario where Maduro is pressured to leave without violence involves Russia and China becoming convinced that Maduro’s potential successor would be better for them than the status quo and working with the international community on a transition plan. Russia and China continue to recognize Maduro, and Russia has sent aircraft to Venezuela amid reports that Maduro is looking to remove gold reserves from the country.

If the U.S. wants Guaido to be successful, he is going to need military help, and that would mean a full-blown invasion of Venezuela.

A full-blown invasion of Venezuela would be an ugly, bloody war. Without a doubt, the U.S. would ultimately win, but global opinion would turn against us very rapidly just like it did during the wars in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.

We live at a time of wars and rumors of wars, and hopefully this will just turn out to be one of those rumors.

Because going to war with Venezuela is one of the stupidest ideas that I have heard in a very long time, and President Trump must not do it.

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Michael Snyder is a nationally syndicated writer, media personality and political activist. He is publisher of The Most Important News and the author of four books including The Beginning Of The End and Living A Life That Really Matters.

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  1. capt barty says:

    Thucydides was right.

    • durangokidd says:

      “Yes, Nicolas Maduro is an absolutely horrible leader, but do we get to overthrow the governments of other countries just because we don’t like who is in charge?”

      In a word: “YES”.

      That’s why we spend $700 billion a year on our military. If we don’t take control of the “Global Great Game” someone else will and our liberties & freedoms will eventually be forfeit.

      That’s the nature of global political reality. There is no moral authority required. It’s all about power. Those nations that can, do. Those nations that can’t, hope that we don’t.

      Life on this planet has always been that way since men organized into groups for self defense / offense and it will remain that way until Jesus comes.

      If your society is not expanding its influence beyond its borders, your civilization is dying and will disappear upon the ash heap of history, and with it: your land will be overrun by foreigners, and your life & liberties subject to another power who may, or may not, be friendly to your society.

      The people of Venezuela have a right to self determination, too. They are speaking in a loud and clear voice that they do not want a Socialist Dictator crushing their democratic history and economic prosperity in Maduro’s quest for a ‘worker’s paradise”.

      The American People can hear that call and aid them in the restoration of their rightful democratic institutions or allow the Russians & Chinese to support Maduro to continue and advance his totalitarian ways.

      A communist / socialist government controlling a large percentage of the global oil & gas reserves, smack dab in the middle of the Western Hemisphere is not acceptable to American interests or security.

      The next step, if left to its own devices, would be a giant military build up of Venezuelan military power to push its communist ideology and threaten American security. Better to eliminate the threat now then when Maduro has developed nuclear technology “for peaceful purposes” and is building ICBM’s for “space exploration”; or is expanding its “revolutionary ideology” to surrounding states like Cuba and Nicaragua tried.

      The US can only handle so many crisis’ at a time so it is important to dispatch this dictator now, and quickly. 🙂

      • Kevin2 says:

        “That’s why we spend $700 billion a year on our military. If we don’t take control of the “Global Great Game” someone else will and our liberties & freedoms will eventually be forfeit.”

        We spend $700 billion. yr to feed the military industrial complex. We can defend our shores with a fraction of that. If South Korea went communist in 1950 we wouldn’t have their economic competition and hence more industry here. Vietnam? No need to explain that fiasco. South Vietnam fell with no domino effect. Interestingly communist Vietnam then fought communist China. So much for the global unified communist front.

        DK, you are an educated man and you understand what the definition of communism is and that is not post USSR Russia. If it was the USSR sold its energy. When it comes to money communists are capitalists.

        Freedom? Interesting. In protecting our “freedom” the NSA spies on all Americans. Likely this information is used to blackmail those in decision making positions. The two people who exposed this are in hiding from a “free” country.

        GTFOOH

        • durangokidd says:

          “We spend $700 billion. yr to feed the military industrial complex. We can defend our shores with a fraction of that.”

          TRUE.

          But this is NOT the 19th Century. In today’s interconnected world America cannot allow other nations, either friends or foes, to control the direction of the future history of the world; because that would most likely come at our expense.

          We cannot retreat into a self contained State like we once were. Those were wonderful days but they exist no more. Today America must LEAD and PERSUADE other nations to follow our lead to bring peace & security to the world as we pursue the advancement of Western Civilization ideals and move out into the Stars.

          Leadership requires vision, ideals, morals & Rule of Law that is fair & just: much of which we are lacking in our political leaders & reps today. We trusted them and they led US astray, promoting themselves and the prosperity of their cronies at the expense of the common good. TRUMP is trying to reverse that course, set by the previous political class over the past thirty years.

          Putin is a Nationalist, just like TRUMP, and Russia prospers from it. There are many commonalities where the USA & Russia can find common ground and cooperation while still competing with each other fairly. Supporting Maduro’s Marxism is a throwback to the Cold War era. It is not something that Russia should be doing if Putin truly believed in self determination. He believes in the Great Game more.

          The people of Venezuela are speaking loud & clear. Economically, under Maduro and Socialism, neither China nor Russia will ever get their investment back. Under the prosperity that Venezuela once enjoyed under capitalism, investing nations can get their investment back AND the people can prosper again.

          Yes, government in America has run amuck. TRUMP is trying to restore the government Americans trusted. While Americans were busy making a living and building their families in the “pursuit of happiness” a FIFTH COLUMN developed in America: ie “Globalists”.

          Globalism is a European ideology developed as a hopeful solution to centuries of international war on the European continent. It works for Europe to a degree, but the special interests there have used the idea of a European Union to consolidate wealth and power under a new form of Imperialism: “Oligarchy & Elitism” rather than as a solution to opportunity, justice, and fairness.

          That cronyism practiced in South America and elsewhere found a home in America through GLOBALISM by both the Left & the Right; who work together to exploit the American worker, family, and taxpayer to serve their particular Agenda and American “freedom, liberty and Constitutional Rights have been the victim of that collusion between the two, as you mentioned.

          Russia sells its oil & gas because it is a “gas station posing as a country. ” McCain was a traitor to America selling out to the Globalists, but he was right about Russia. Russia made the mistake of confiscating the Gangster Bankster investment capital early in the post Soviet aftermath, missing its chance to develop its industry & its economy. China was a little bit smarter, but not by much. Marrying your second cousin seems to have served the GB well.

          If Snowden and assange were smart they would surrender to TRUMP early in his second term. If rumors of ” military tribunals” are true, we may not have to wait that long for Truth, Justice, and the American Ideal take center stage in the Nation’s life again. 🙂

          • Kevin2 says:

            DK

            Yea, this invade any country we desire has worked so well, Afghanistan, Iraq, bombing Libya while being allied with AQ Islamic Fundamentalists and then, creating ISIS Islamic terrorists to overthrow Syria. Syria protects its 10% Christian population, ISIS a defect US, Saudi, Israeli creation cuts off their heads.

            “The people of Venezuela are speaking loud & clear.”

            GTFOOH, think the people in Libya are better off going from the highest standard of living in Africa to a Somalia like existence?

            Venezuela signed its death warrant when they decided to break the oil peg and sell their oil to China in their currency. Freedom? Spare me, you’re too smart to believe it, I’m too smart to accept the premise.

          • Kevin2 says:

            DK

            “Russia made the mistake of confiscating the Gangster Bankster investment capital early in the post Soviet aftermath, missing its chance to develop its industry & its economy. ”

            As long as Russia maintained a nuclear deterrent they would have never been allowed the chance to “develop their economy”. Thats a fact. After the loss of 20+ million people in WWII Russia, for good logical reason will not concede its means of defense. They don’t trust the West for good reason.

      • cookiepuss says:

        HA!
        It’d be nice if the other cuntries of the world thought the same about US and overthrew our fucking gov’t.
        We practiced how to lose a war in Korea. We PERFECTED it in Vietnam. The US should stay the hell out of Venezuela.

    • TharSheBlows says:

      So when did Venezuela attack the USA? They Never did.

      Time to Throw John Bolton into a big vat of battery acid.

      The US foreign policy is a global Fraud, and I have been warning all of you for a year or 2 on this US harmful fraud against Venezuela and their people, devastating US sanctions creating this man made disaster. More US War Crimes on Humanity. And so many of you bought into the CIA propaganda that Venezuela troubles need to be blamed on communism. Total Lie and a Fraud. People GET THE FACTS, Discard Fraud Propaganda. You look like fools when you spout off like uninformed idiots.

      Well read this sick plan to needlessly destroy another sovereign country. The US Policy is RA/PE Pillage and Plunder for Wall Street Big Oil Co’s.

      John Bolton’s Plan to Starve Millions of Venezuelans into Submission
      02-05-2019 • ht tps://www.lewrockwell.com, By Kurt Nimmo
      Over the last five years, the US has imposed financial sanctions on Venezuela. It has cut it off from western financial markets and this has resulted in oil production shortfalls. Venezuela is unable to raise capital to address deficiencies in the oil sector of its economy. This situation was exacerbated when the price of petroleum fell sharply around the world. Venezuelan debt instruments are banned by the US Treasury, thus preventing it from acquiring loans to address its severe economic problems and feed the people.

      The pattern has become rote. Nations that are not captive to neoliberalism suddenly find they have a terrorist problem. If the nation in question is communist or quasi-communist, no terrorist false flags are required, the evil venality of Leninism and Stalinism are enough to gain consensus for economic warfare followed by a physical invasion if the leader in question does not fall or acquiesce.

      • TharSheBlows says:

        America has a deep track record of turning great countries into Democratic sh!tholes. Yemeni, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Viet Nam. Starts with needless sanctions, phony propaganda, then a CIA coup from inside to topple the government, then into all out illegal bombings and invasion to pillage, then abandonment. Of course when all the Gold and riches are depleted the US Pulls out and looks for another weak victim.

        Russia has provided money and support to Venezuela. Thank you Russia. You are the new Freedom fighters and more American than the War mongering shills that occupy the US Government.

        • Kevin2 says:

          The truth hurts but it’s the US, along with Israel and Saudi Arabia that is arming (US & Israel) and funding (Saudi Arabia) Islamic Fundamentalists to overthrow non religiously governed nations in effect destroying them. Libya and Syria protected its Christian minorities, the US has ISIS lop off Christians heads.

          The goal is to so fragment governments with resources that they cannot effectively demand anything and their leadership is under constant threat of being overthrown (interestingly by forces under the above mentioned control). Eventually the Islamic Fundamentalists will reach into Russia destabilizing them. This is why Russia is so adamant fighting them.

          The “War On Terrorism” like it’s preceding (and joined) namesake the “War On Drugs” is a 100% sham. Bankers launder the dope money (Wachovia $387 billion no one charged) and Afghanistan exporting the most opium even while under US occupation. That isn’t done without US participation both covert and overt.

        • The Deplorable Renegade says:

          TSB, good to see you back. Agree wholeheartedly. Let Venezuela solve their own problems. Bolton is one of the WORST neocons. He would fight his own mother if he thought he had a good reason.

          • Kevin2 says:

            The Deplorable Renegade

            Thanks

            ” if he thought he had a good reason.”

            Since when did he need a good reason? If business told him to attack Canada he would find some far flung justification for it.

        • Anonymous says:

          Go back to Russia if you dont like it.

      • Anonymous says:

        So when did Ukraine attack Russia?
        They didnt!

  2. Kevin2 says:

    How long can the same movie of the flag raising over Iwo Jima continue to be used to motivate the cannon fodder enlistees to do battle for Wall Street? I keep hearing, “We could have won” without asking, “Win what”?

  3. Maranatha says:

    I’ve been tracking intel on that for a week if y’all have been reading my comments.

    It’s bad as you have Venezuela historically linked to Russia/China as they in effect stole Exxon oil from America. And Russian mercs and Iranian special forces coming.

    And the military from Venezuela marched to the Columbian brder, so Columbia ramped up as did Brazil.

    And we have many assets in USCOUTHCOM like nine bases and now lots of movement like C-17s x four days.

    • Kevin2 says:

      “stole Exxon oil from America”

      It’s in reality Venezuela’s oil not Exxons and in any effect it’s not the USA’s oil by way of Exxon.

      News Flash… there is no such thing as an American Company. They have the title “Multi Nationals” for a very well deserved reason. The only thing “American” about them is their enforcer, the US military.

      “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
      ― Smedley D. Butler,

      • Redwinger says:

        Everyone in the U.S.A. needs to read “War is a Racket” by 2 time Medal of Honor recipient, Smedley Butler. It should be mandatory reading for every federal elected official before they are sworn into office. It should be mandatory reading for every appointed cabinet member. No cabinet member should be appointed unless they have children that are military age. If we go to war, their children are the first to go. Same with the Senate & Congress. That would stop this nonsense very quickly.

      • bb in GA says:

        The only quibble I have with the Commandant is that he said he was a “gangster for Capitalism.”

        No sir, General, Capitalism is the free exchange of goods and services without fraud or coercion.

        What you fought for was Corporatism or a sort of Fascism where the Government and Big Money interests are in a mutual benefits relationship.

        It ain’t Capitalism. We don’t have it in the US and haven’t for a very long time.

        <bb

        • Montana Guy says:

          bb in Georgia, Smedley Butler made that statement 83 years ago. How many more years would it take to meet your criteria of ‘a very long time’?

          • bb in GA says:

            MG:

            I would say we can at least mark the end of a relatively free society (which I believe is a prerequisite for Capitalism) with the Lincoln tyranny that preceded and endured through “Civil War” 1 and lived on from there.

            In order to “Preserve the Union” Lincoln trampled the Constitution: specifically the 1st, 4th, 5th and 10th amendments at the very least…Probably more.

            The fact that he established the more-than-the mafia doctrine (they don’t require your family to maintain membership after you die) that a free people cannot decide to amend the form of government they choose to live under by withdrawing from it destroyed our free society structure.

            I realize General Butler was from an earlier era and am familiar with and respect his positions.

            <bb

  4. Beaumont 2.0 says:

    I acknowledge your premise.

    But, how does Venezuela impact you, personally, since America is already at war with so many other countries.

  5. george says:

    I have no clue why Russia and China would want to have a presence in Venezuela.

    Their so called oil reserves are the worst sludge on the planet.

    • Kevin2 says:

      It’s viscous, it’s sour, but there is a hell of a lot of it. It’s likely Russia is looking to employ their skilled technicians and engineers who are knowledgeable in petroleum, China needs a reliable fuel supply that will take their currency as payment. Taking such payment is a de-facto “Act Of War” as was seen in both Iraq and Libya.

      The idea that this is some military threat is laughable (where are those Iraq WMDs by the way), it’s geo-business. If you’re going to fight for Exxon/Mobil market share don’t disguise yourself in an American military uniform; you a de-facto mercenary. Let XOM hire Blackwater and if they get over their head they are on their own.

  6. Bond Servant Ron says:

    Of course they are going to war again, and again, and again-Satan needs human sacrifices ALL THE TIME in this lowest physical realm of earth that SATAN CONTROLS!!!

  7. Fox Business interview with John Bolton:

    “…we’re in conversation with major American companies…I think we’re trying to get the same end result here…It will make a big difference to the United States economically if we could have American oil companies really invest in and produce the oil capabilities in Venezuela.”

    All wars are resource wars. The empire does not care about the people in Venezuela. They could not care less about Socialism. They want the gold and the oil. The narrative they produce publicly is merely to manufacture consent for overthrowing a sovereign country. Soon babies will be thrown from incubators (or similar) by Maduro henchmen.

    Juan Guaido, graduate of George Washington University, groomed by Langley, puppet president of empire, vows to protect US interests in oil. GOOD SOCIALIST.

    Nicholas Maduro, bus driver from Caracas, thorn in DC side, vows to protect oil interests for Chinese loans. BAD SOCIALIST.

    Buncha hippo crips and cycle paths.

  8. Seminole Wind says:

    Sure, why not? Gives Hollyweird something to make movies about.

    Really don’t think that it will happen, China/Russia are waiting for the coming Pelosi lead Civil war this Spring, before they make their moves. But on second thought it would be to their advantage to have bases in Central/South America when the 2nd. American Civil starts. Red Dawn?

    Somebody should throw a bucket of water on the Witch and melt her!

  9. Maranatha says:

    Newsflash, the ONLY reason those oil fields exist is Exxon spent beaucoup bucks to develop them!

    Your argument is the EXACT same one used by the South African National Congress Marxists who are trying to STEAL Dutch Afrikaaners farms…ones that have never belonged to indigeneous people. One that they cleared land to make and have been defending ever since.

    Why is it people think that a country can nationalize industry that only was created by enormous investment and infrastructure costs to develop???????????

    • Maranatha says:

      Exxon is NOT just a multinational company but one that provides JOBS and people are investors who profit by dividends and a rising stock price.

      If any nation were to just let EXXON spend millions amd billions, then nationalize as Hugo Chavez did, then there would be no EXXON and no other petroleum industry.

      What is worse is the Russians and Chinese Communists swooped in to help Chavez and Maduro to exploit stolen American business interests! And then finagled to control ports and establish a naval base as they loaned them money they knew they could not repay!

      Do you really think Exxon and America are worse than COMMUNISTS??????????

      Yeah, let’s have Marxists in a big way in the Southern Hemisphere. If you thought Cuba was bad,how about both the Russians and China at our backdoor with nuclear missiles and bombers!

      • Kevin2 says:

        Russia is capitalist.

        “Russians and China at our backdoor with nuclear missiles and bombers”

        This isn’t 1960. We’re under the same nuclear threat with “missiles off our shores” with submarines. South America is a business squabble that isn’t worth US lives or treasure. It’s not “our oil”, Their oil wasn’t coming here anyway. Want Marxists in a country? Exploit the citizenry to make them vulnerable to the persuasive ideology. The reality is even China, communist in implementation, isn’t selling, “from those with means to those with needs”. They, even they have implemented Predatory Lending to overtake nations in Africa. Where did they learn that one? The west, not us (as the US is just the servant of the banisters) employ that strategy.

        Read, Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man.

        • Kevin2 says:

          The US bombed infrastructure, water / waste treatment in Libya when they assisted the removal of Gadaffi for Islamic Fundamentalist AQ and created ISIS. The successor government there had to borrow money against the oil assets to pay the banisters. The Middle East has been turned upside down not by evil communists but the US aiding Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists to overthrow sovereign nations. More Opium is coming out of Afghanistan now than under the Taliban.

          Spare me the patriotic bullshit. It’s all about control of resources of companies. “Our” side uses our kids blood and out tax dollars to enforce it.

        • Rick Werner says:

          Sshh, don’t let m hear you, as m is all knowing……

    • Kevin2 says:

      Maranatha

      Regardless, it’s not the USAs oil. If EXXON/Mobil paid boo-coo bucks let EXXON/Mobil use their resources to recover their loss. No where in this equation is it our tax dollars and blood to be used.

      You’re attempting to justify the US military to defend Multi-National corporate interests outside of the US.

      They are not AMERICAN COMPANIES. They are privately owned businesses.

      • Maranatha says:

        WRONG? DEAD WRONG.

        I do not want another stupid proxy war, but we certainly WILL end up there because we have nine military bases in Colombia and so an unstable Venezuela that is threatening Columbia’s border plus Hugo Chavez/Maduro history and now Brazil getting invoved and now the EU getting involved makes a tense situation where someone will push for it.

        The interim president Guaido character is a flaming socialist and so you would hope that a better candidate is elected, but it will likely be YEARS until that happens.

        Look at France. We wanted Le Pen and got Macaroni, but that’s the luck of the draw. And Macaroni is no ally but a backstabber.

        China is furious as Maduro royally screwed up their naval base plans and so is Russia who sent in 400 mercs like Blackwater and then had to disavow them.

        China CANNOT afford even more economic damage so they fled and got paid off with tons of gold.

        Russian fled and their plans are ruined a d they got 20 tons of gold.

        Neither want WW3 over Venezuela. Both are likely to back up Maduro…some but can just as easily back Guaido who is so similar and end up looking heroic to the Venezuelans.

        It’s FUBAR.

        • Maranatha says:

          Say by a miracle that in two years, they have free and fair elections and a Christian conservative nationalist capitalist republican is elected. No matter what, Russia and China stir up the socialists and the leftist media call that newly elected person an American puppet.

          That is a likely outcome.

          Venezuela will not turn capitalst overnight. It will take 10+ years and only if POTUS was popular with the news media suppirting him. But they hate him. They want a socialist in there.

          • Seminole Wind says:

            Dear Brother, you need to understand that many of the posters here are either Russian trolls, or Chinese trolls trying to push a point of view that undermines the U.S.
            You’ll never win, so just take a deep breath and stand your ground.

            “In God We Trust” and Watch out fur dem hogs!

            • Kevin2 says:

              Seminole Wind

              Russian or Chinese trolls?

              Newsflash, Russia is not communist assuming that you understand that communism is state ownership of the means of production and I don’t think you do.

              GTFOOH

              Blind obedience isn’t patriotic. Bypassing the US Constitution by US military involvement without a war declaration isn’t patriotic. Bypassing the 4th Amendment in the Bill Of Rights by spying on all Americans isn’t patriotic. Ed Snowden is patriotic. If you think Ron and Rand Paul are unpatriotic then so was Jefferson.

  10. =^_^= says:

    “You are making mistakes that will leave your hands covered in blood and you will leave the presidency stained with blood,” Maduro warned”

    Aren’t his citizens disarmed? Bet he is thinking twice about gun control now that it’s too late.

  11. rellik says:

    “If the U.S. wants Guaido to be successful, he is going to need military help, and that would mean a full-blown invasion of Venezuela.”
    I don’t think the invaders will be American. We won’t engage in a war in Venezuela, there is no “up side”.
    Guaido is just as big a socialist threat as Maduro is. The only gain we would get with a change is to keep Cubans and Russians at bay for a bit.
    Fundamentally Venezuelans voted for this misery, but haven’t accepted that it is their own faults and choice( kind of like our big city Democrats). Till that changes, the new “boss” will be the same as the old “boss”.

  12. Beaumont 2.0 says:

    I feel that alternative energy and energy wars would probably look like Malthusian busywork, if you did an expense report, itemizing resources-in and resources-out.

  13. THe Preacher says:

    SATAN is salivating at the thought of another Blood Fest is his honor, provided by his faithful servants in Washington, District Of MEGA Criminals

  14. Sure, Venezuela nationalized their oil resources. They played the “National Security” card just like the US does. Mexico, Brazil, and Saudi Arabia also nationalized their oil. Time to invade the dang buggers…they’re not allowed to do that…sez empire apologists.

    Venezuela gave the international oilcos warning and offered to compensate them. Chevron, Texaco, Total, Statoil, and BP accepted the compensation. Exxon and Conoco Phillips turned it down. They took it to the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) for arbitration. The World Bank ICSID (a DC subsidiary) ruled against Exxon and Conoco Phillips. So it’s all sour grapes because they lost.

    A little investigation instead of relying on empire propaganda all the time is helpful.

  15. THE Preacher says:

    Dearly Beloved Brethren:

    The Author is woefully unaware, uninformed and ignorant

    THE AIM of The USSA is NOT to “Win Wars”,”Learn lessons from the past” or to bring “Freedom & Liberty, Democracy & Apple Pie” – but to CREATE CHAOS… a Planet-Wide PERMANENT CHAOS from which – in its diabolic hallucinations – it actually thinks it will emerge victorious as the “last man standing” to “inherit the earth” – along with ISISrael.

    Such INSANITY is the result of DEMONIC Possession- where the only “inheritance” will be HELL.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Beware of relocation experts. The experts said Venezuela was a paradise several years back.

  17. Maranatha says:

    80Q4konorDw
    Hollyweird actors like Danny Glover, Sean Penn, Jami Foxx, and on and on backed Hugo Chavez because they are just as socialist as he was.

    That nonsense was constant while the socialists ruined a working economic system with tremendous oil reserves. They totally mismanaged it. And then got in bed with the Marxists from Russia and China.

    How would it be possible to ignore Venezuela now? Not with Guaido recognized in the free world and not with Maduro threatening borders. He’s crazy and acted foolishly by sending infantry, artillery, and tanks to the Colombian border.

    If we do nothing, we look entirely impotent…especially as Russia and China bail.

    • Maranatha says:

      htt ps://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/eu-nations-back-guaido-as-venezuela-leader-1.821674

      This kind of silly diplomacy from the EU is absolutely worthless as what military assets are they going tosend from Spain, Italy,the Uk,France, etc???

      When our EU so-called allies just pay lip service, all it does is raise expectations for America their evil stepbrother to rescue Venezuela. It’s asinine.

  18. THE Preacher says:

    Dearly Beloved Brethren:

    USSA is like a diseased syphilliptic hooker on the World Stage – nobody is remotely interested in buying her “wares” any more.

  19. Asshat says:

    This is precisely the reason I never served in the military and I will discourage my kids as well. All wars are over oil not defending your country from invasion. Fuck them all and amazon too

  20. Bill says:

    They are already there, there are some videos on-online showing a large number of US choppers moving personnel inside Venezuela. Secondly, the US gov’t has already committed itself to another person who has declared himself the new president; strange, since there has been no recent national elections there. It’s highly unlikely he would do this without a high level understanding of support from the US. Our politicians, officials, and quasi-secret special interest groups who have tremendous influence in gov’t policy are the most vile sort of hypocrites condemning other nations for undue interference to other countries, yet the US is the worst.
    Since he’s declaring himself the new presidente’ minus the election, he will probably be just another dictator, only he will be our dictator. TPTB/officialdom/deep state/neo-cons are keeping a lid on information about all this because they know the vast majority of US citizens are totally against another military adventure, another war. These wars and military actions are literally bankrupting our country. The citizens of our country are tired of a small hand-full of people secretly doing that which is against the will of the people. We will hear about it on the news only after it can no longer be hidden, only then we will be committed up to our necks in it. Even so, we will merely receive a highly propagandized version of reality.
    Maduro is in reality nothing more than a thug, and not very bright at that, but the people of Venezuela voted for him, let them deal with the mess he has made. The multi-national corporations are licking their lips for all that oil in Venezuela.

  21. Sick says:

    It is all about oil period. Today Potus stated the USA is t
    the World’s largest producer of oil, what was not said is that it will last for 3 years.

  22. Maranatha says:

    Stupid president have used the War Powers Act since November 1973.

    It is a sword of last resort when a FUBAR Congress can negotiate a bipartisan agreement to wage war. That is why this dang sword keeps getting drawn! Congress is full of perpetual idiots who cannot be forced out, while presidents can serve 8 years at most consecutively.

    Presidents are decisive because they have to be and Congress is as indecisive as they come with them wanting to please everyone intheir districts so they can keep an endless job.

    How many stupid wars have we been in? The last semi-moral war was WW2 and we started that in 1937 when we helped the Chinese against the Japanese. That began an inevitable war that resulted in Pearl Harbor that FDR wanted to happen. Meanwhile he did the same thing by helping the UK illegally and breaking three US federal laws.

    So we have wasted TRILLIONS on proxy wars because we cannot use the nuclear missiles, chemical missiles, germwarfare, etc that we have developed…thus far.

    And if we use anything else like an EMP or the Rods from GOD, or outlr secret weapons weapons, them Russian and China will get North Korea or Iran to start WW3.

    Meanwhile had we invested those TRILLIONS, the USA would be a paradise, but we micturated those TRILLIONS by helping Japan, Africa, South Korea, South America, Central America, Mexico, Philippines, the EU, the exWarsaw Pact, rogue nations in the Middle East, etc.

    It’s insanity.

    • Maranatha says:

      “our secret weather weapons”…

      See we have had Star Wars tech while the Russians and Chinese didn’t. So they developed kiler satellite tech to deal with our weapons. So we developed Rods from GOD.Wedeveloped thermobaric-bombs, so they developedeven better thermobaric-bombs. So they developed hypersonics. And we developed railguns.

      We are throwing away money like it will not doom us. Think about what a waste that is and how it’s endless debt

      None of these things create wealth. How dumb.

      We need t revamp our fleet but a cheap missile can take out a naval vessel. You have to have carriers to launch fighter jets and stealth bombers or send them huge distances and refuel them. So carriers are not great at protecting themselves so you need tankers, missile destroyers, an AEGIS cruiser, etc. Now you have a mammoth fleet that are kinda sitting ducks.

      Who wants to start WW3 and have bodybags come home?

  23. Brian says:

    For what possible reason would we want to go to war with Venezuela? California, maybe?

  24. John Stiner says:

    “5,000 troops to Colombia”

    That was an intentional “leak” meant as a threat to Venezuela. They are not sending 5000 troops to Venezuela.

  25. jakartaman says:

    I do not believe we we go to war BUT Venezuela being in our back yard we need to keep our adversaries out – like Russia, Iran and China. To allow them control or significant influence would not be good

  26. TommyD says:

    I don’t think the US will invade Venezuala, but it could get Columbia to. And we will send advisors to Columbia and Billions to Columbia.

  27. Maranatha says:

    Not only is NATO an outdated and hugely expensive idea, it isn’t effective but a ridiculous way of coping.

    It sure isn’t Biblical.

    The military-industrial complex wants you to endlessly waste money on armaments. Instead, let’s protect the good old USA.

    Think how asinine it is to waste TRILLIONS while the EU won’t budget enough money, resources, and personnel! Than laugh at us and stab us in the back!

    At some point, either this will break the US economy or some idiot like Kim in North Korea will trigger a cascading crisis and the USA will get sucked into WW3.

    Venezuela is worse because it is so close. Who freakin’ cares enough to let their sons and daughters die in a stupid war of socialists??? Grandbabies dying in a boneheaded proxy war due to idiotic saber-rattlin’.

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