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    TSA Administrative Directive: Opt-Outters To Be Considered “Domestic Extremists”

    Mac Slavo
    November 24th, 2010
    SHTFplan.com
    Comments (66)
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    If the information recently acquired by Doug Hagmann of Northeast Intelligence Network is accurate, then something really big is happening in America right now – and it’s most certainly not a step towards individual liberty.

    According to Mr. Hagmann, he was contacted by a source within the DHS who provided an alarming memo detailing a new administrative directive agreed upon by DHS chief Janet Napolitano and the head of TSA John Pistole. The memo, according to Doug Hagmann, “officially addresses those who are opposed to, or engaged in the disruption of the implementation of the enhanced airport screening procedures as ‘domestic extremists’.”

    The memo leaves no doubt as to who, exactly, is leading the charge to label Americans who refuse current security measures due to health and privacy concerns as extremists. “The measures to be taken in response to the negative public backlash as detailed [in this directive], have the full support of the President,” it says.

    Under the new labeling procedures, those who choose to opt-out or are perceived as being troublemakers will be detained, questioned and processed for further investigation:

    The terminology contained within the reported memo is indeed troubling. It labels any person who interferes with TSA airport security screening procedure protocol and operations by actively objecting to the established screening process, including but not limited to the anticipated national opt-out day  as a domestic extremist. The label is then broadened to include any person, group or alternative media source that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports  and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures.

    For individuals who engaged in such activity at screening points, it instructs TSA operations to obtain the identities of those individuals and other applicable information and submit the same electronically to the Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division, the Extremism and Radicalization branch of the Office of Intelligence & Analysis (IA) division of the Department of Homeland Security.

    The United States government, under complete control and direction of our elected President, is now actively labeling anyone who exercises their 4th amendment Constitutional right which protects against warrantless and unreasonable searches and seizures as, essentially, engaging in terrorism as defined by Section 802 of the USA Patriot Act:

    Section 802 [USA Patriot Act]

    (a) DOMESTIC TERRORISM DEFINED- Section 2331 of title 18, United States Code, is amended–
    ‘(5) the term `domestic terrorism’ means activities that–
    ‘(B) appear to be intended–
    ‘(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
    ‘(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

    Though it may seem a broad interpretation, the definitions for domestic terrorism are very vague, allowing for a variety of views depending on who happens to be making the decisions. The very fact that TSA is allegedly going to label opt-out travelers as ‘domestic extremists’ suggest that they are, by today’s standards, considered no different than terrorists – and thus – may have their Constitutional rights stripped and be held without trial. In a previous article we discussed Matt Kernan, who may have found a Constitutional argument that works to avoid enhanced security in the airport. But, what if the-powers-that-be determined, by whatever vague definition, that the Constitution doesn’t apply?

    With the outrage from American travelers and the pressure being put on corporate profits, the President and TSA may eventually change their tune. But if they don’t, then we can expect more intrusive checkpoints from our government in the very near future. Ms. Napolitano has already publicly stated that DHS is looking at other mass transit systems like buses and trains as the next target.

    Something big is happening. And either the American people are going to force the change – starting with each individual making a personal decision to stand up against policies that can be described as nothing less than tyrannical – or the expansion of surveillance and control systems will continue to spread.

    If the American people fail this time as we did with bailouts and healthcare, the end result will be backscatter machines in schools, malls, stadiums, and any other public venue which is deemed a security threat by our government.

    Sources: Northeast Intelligence Network, Electronic Privacy Information Center

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    1. Of course they are extremists… Anyone who takes a suggestion from Ron Paul is automatically labeled as an extremist: http://www.schaefreport.com/2010/11/23/video-the-american-people-have-been-too-submissive-ron-paul/

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    2. eugend66 says:

      Comments…..Quit flying !
      http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/93

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    3. Data Dog says:

      The government is trying to provoke us to respond violently.  They are poking us in the ribs. They need an “incident” to push their agenda  further.  Any flare up will be covered by their accomplices,  the MSM.  Remember, like every initiative they do, this isn’t about safety.  It’s about control.

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    4. VRF says:

      Well ..
      I think its on than.

      Mr. One term wanna be.
      you made your move.

      wait till we make ours.

      these scanners are not mmaking us safer people..
      its not going to go down like this, and they know it.
      this is a freedom grab, a liberty test.
      are we going to fail it, or is our administration going to learn?
      here is another one of our rights being tested and taken away, are you going to fight for it..or just lay down while they tread on you?

      Fuck them airlines, they will probably go the way GM did, and be bailed out by our money, when they slowly die a miserable death due to the policies of a communistic america.

      Hugo Chaves, took over businesses in his country, and fired the Ceo’s…sound familiar? (GM)

      He who trades liberty for safety deserves neither.

      Hope you like your 3rd world america..its headded your way like a train running off the tracks

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    5. VRF says:

      Hey peeps
      guess whats next?

      anyone who is a blog member on WTSHTF website is now concitered an enemy combatant.
      and a domestic extreamist.
      you will not have to worry about opt out or the scanners at the airport or your daily grope..you will be placed on the no fly list from your computers i.p. address…good day my fellow commies.

      and to anyone else who doesnt like this,, we will (this admin.) continue to take away your rights one at a time just like we have been, and just like you have let us.

      next we will be listening in on you, and if you say anything we dont like..you will be treated as osamas right hand man. 

      welcome to USSA

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    6. Bill says:

      VRF – I sorta already figured we were all on the “list” because of our involvement with this very dangerous blog. 

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    7. John says:

      Comments…..

      I suggest that no one fly anywhere until they discontinue the use of these uncontitutional techniques.  When the airlines are going out of business because of these screening techniques then we might get some action.  We need a new kind of tea party, but instead of dumping tea we need to boycott flying until things change>

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    8. Don’t just “opt out” of naked scanners only to be sexually molested/assaulted, instead. Boycott Flying COMPLETELY, until sanity returns! Please join us: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Flying/126801010710392

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    9. greaseman says:

      Comments…..  seems like this is a social tipping point.  if enough Americans have had it, giving up their basic rights for this ridiculous exercise in safety,  then we have a chance to draw the line in the sand now.  if not, we have crossed the tipping point, and had better get used to living in a totally  facist state with NO personal rights whatsoever.
          

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    10. Anonymous says:

      What if I was a nun?

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    11. Goldenfoxx says:

      Comments…..” anyone who is a blog member on WTSHTF website is now concitered an enemy combatant.
      and a domestic extreamist.
      you will not have to worry about opt out or the scanners at the airport or your daily grope..you will be placed on the no fly list from your computers i.p. address…good day my fellow commies.”

      Place me on the no fly list because I won’t be flying anywhere. LOL!  Welcome to the police state and the naysayers said it would never happen. It’s here, what are we going to do about it?  I think it’s hunker down time, we have reached the tipping point.

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    12. Funny thing is, some of us have been preaching about these very encroachments for years, since before September 11, 2001. All the while our friends and neighbors thought we were nuts. Now that the chickens are coming home to roost, saying “I told you so” doesn’t make me feel good. It sickens me.

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    13. Goldenfoxx says:

      Comments….. Check out the pic on Drudge!  The guy has a big marker sign on his back that says “SCREW BIG SIS!”  LOL!!!!

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    14. Sheldon Plankton says:

      Something big is happening, indeed, but it’s been happening since October 26, 2001 when George Bush’s Patriot Act was “crammed down our throats.”  Suddenly, all that “enemy combatant” “military commission” “no phone call, indefinite detention” shit doesn’t sound so swell when applied to us nice white christians and not those pesky brown muslim types.  Yep, this is happening under Obama.  But don’t pretend it started with him. 

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    15. mushroom says:

      ALL THE ACCURATE SHTF ARTICLES AND ALL THE INTELLIGENT CIVILIZED ARTICULATE RESPONDING BLOGS OFTEN WITH A SENSE OF HUMOR ARE DISGUSTINGLY OUTRAGEOUS AND INTOLERABLE.

      nobody here has any good ole ugly blood chilling american combat pazaaaaaaazz. i can hardly tolerate all these intellectual rational comments and civilized disagreements devoid of profanity. why don’t you all get into huge profane superpatriotic tantrums and cuss each other out over some minor points of facts none of which are true. NO ONE HERE CLAIMS TO HAVE WIPED OUT 15 JAPANESE MACHINE GUN NESTS ON IWO JIMA, KILLED TWENTY JAPANESE OFFICERS WIELDING SAMURAI SWORDS  AND BEEN AWARDED THE NAVY CROSS AND MEDAL OF HONOR BY PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT.

      i’m so disgusted by you all that i’ve got to go lay down and rest for a while.

      see ya later,

      your disgusted coblogger,

      mushroom……………….

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    16. Johnnymustardseed says:

      I wonder how many of the 3000 that died on 911 wished that George Bush had implemented some kind of security upgrade of passengers?  It  is everyones right to not fly, but it is not your right to not submit to security that prevents another disaster like 911.

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    17. sketch says:

      @johnnymustardseed

      I wonder what the founding fathers thought about your statement – lets look at Ben Franklin, shall you? Actually it IS my right NOT to submit. look up the word SUBMIT and you’ll see why. 3000 people die each month in car accidents. are we going to search each vehicle now?

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    18. Thomas Paine says:

      Johnny Mustardseed: not one.  We had all the security necessary at the time, but we have met the terrorists – and they are us.    If you have not yet figured that out, you are already brainwashed beyond all hope of recovery.  Sorry….

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    19. Anonymous says:

      I found this linked as the document that the above is coming from.
      Haven’t read it yet myself and won’t get to for several hours but thought I would share.

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/14884903/Domestic-Extremism-Lexicon-US-Department-of-Homeland-Security-Reference-Aid

      Johnnymustardseed, current security measures in place now would not have stopped 9/11. It is not about safety or security, it is about citizen compliance and control.

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    20. Mariposa de Oro says:

      Sadly, most of the people I know don’t have problem with the porno-scanners and gropfests.  They have a problem with anyone who has a problem with it.  So sad.

      :o(

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    21. Johnnymustardseed says:

      Anonymous….. Steel reinforced doors and pilots with guns, and sky marshalls would have stopped it, plus no box cutters allowed.

      Here is an idea for all you who think airport security infringes on your rights. Don’t let them control you.
       
      Drive on the wrong side of the road drunk.

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    22. Meat Eater says:

      The quality of the comments on this website has reached a new low.  Of course most people resent the intrusive nature of the TSA policies.  Who wouldn’t except for the few who actually believe the policies are accomplishing anything.  But the level of outright hatred of a lot of people making comments here is beyond the pale.  Thank goodness I speak several yokel dialects because the level of your grammar is damn near incomprehensible.  But your thinking does bleed through the drivel you write and the only conclusion any sane person could come to is maybe the people we need to be worrying about include you too.  This website should serve a useful purpose but the right wing religious nutjobs who are praying for Jeeezus to come and git that sumbitch in the White House have suddenly taken over the place.  You are just itching for a confrontation with the government (which you will lose) and then what do you have?  Get off your dead asses and make some money so you can prep for hard times and leave your politics and religion out of the debate.  Frankly a bunch of who read this website are tired of the outright bitterness you present.  Take it somewhere else and let the rest of us enjoy the articles written here to give people who want to learn valuable information that will help people, not instigate stupid dreams about using up your 50,000 rounds of ammunition on the teeming mobs you fantasize will be invading your compounds.

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    23. Anonymous says:

      I like eating meet! 

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    24. Thomas Jefferson says:

      What does not make sense is that the TSA gives you the option to “opt out”…so if I follow this correctly, even though the TSA allows us to opt out, Napolitano now says that if we opt out (follow the rules) we are extremists??

      When you go to the airport one of 3 things can happen

      A. Metal detector-pass and you’re good
      B. Selected for X-Ray- Opt in for the X-ray
      C. Opt out of X-Ray and receive a “happy ending” from the TSA

      Does that not then, make Napolitano guilty of breaking her own rules, therefore making her the “Domestic Extremist”??? She herself would be breaking standard protocol by following through with this because standard protocol is opt in…or opt out!

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    25. Hopium says:

      Hey Meat Eater, come here for a moment so I can pull on your nut sack….just for fun of course..GFYS

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    26. gregg says:

      Comments….. another strike at TSA

      ask wiki leaks for the county by county database of ALL TSA goons homes……………..

      we need the lists      NOW……….

      then the people can instruct county DAs to press charges……….outside of the federal protectoridiots

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    27. Anonymous says:

      NTIF  (Now that is funnie)!

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    28. walker says:

      Wait. I’m sorry. When did “Domestic Extremist” == “Domestic Terrorist”? Granted, no one likes being labeled an extremist, but I don’t follow your connecting “Extremist” to the mention of “Terrorist” in the PATRIOT act.

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    29. Comments….
      Quit flying !
      http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/93

      That may be the intent–to nationalize the airlines.
      It seems the only objective that makes sense—and if we don’t stand against this, then we may be radiated in restaurants, malls, stadiums, schools, all state/govt bldgs…where will this end??

      It’s more than about ‘not flying’!!

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    30. Thanks for all the great comments.

      Quoting @walker:
      “Wait. I’m sorry. When did “Domestic Extremist” == “Domestic Terrorist”? Granted, no one likes being labeled an extremist, but I don’t follow your connecting “Extremist” to the mention of “Terrorist” in the PATRIOT act.”

      Per this memo, the definition of a “domestic extremist” is broadened to include one” that actively objects to, causes others to object to, supports  and/or elicits support for anyone who engages in such travel disruptions at U.S. airports in response to the enhanced security procedures.”

      Per Patriot Act Section 802, the a domestic terrorist, or one who is engaged in domestic terrorism, engage in activities that appear to or intend to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, OR, influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion.

      My reading of Mr. Hagmann’s memo report and the Patriot Act Section 802 suggests, to me, that both definitions, the one for “domestic extremist” and the one for “domestic terrorist” are essentially the same. The wording, of course, is not exactly the same, but by definition both can be construed as the same thing.

      Again, the language in BOTH is vague and knowing how our judges and law enforcement agencies like to make their own interpretations, the definition of domestic extremist and domestic terrorist in this instance seems to be one in the same. That’s just one man’s humble opinion, though.

      Thanks all.

      Mac

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    31. Comments…..

      I see one big plus when they take the next step if we don’t stop this abuse now..the malls will be a no-go place due to the scanners…so mom and pop shops in your community will prosper.

      Johnnymustardseed..I see you still believe an Arab with a satellite phone in a fricking cave directed 19 idiots on 9/11…seen any pictures of them entering the airports buying tickets,boarding the planes by the way???
      I didn’t think so.

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    32. Comments…..

      Johnnymustardseed…6000 of our boys and girls have died in Iraq/Afghanistan since 9/11…feel better now???

      Can we call it even?? That’s how you sound from this end.

      I’m a Ron Paul fan.

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    33. Comments…..Mariposa de Oro
      November 24th, 2010 at 11:39 am
      Sadly, most of the people I know don’t have problem with the porno-scanners and gropfests.  They have a problem with anyone who has a problem with it.  So sad.

      Well, maybe not yet, but wait until their child is taken from their arms and taken to another room for 10 minutes…they will go ballistic if any parenting skills are there.

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    34. Anonymous says:

      I think I just seen all of the Supreme Court Judges pass me in a clown car!

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    35. Anonymous says:

      Soon you wil know what it feels like to be a Jew in Germany before WWII.  Take you dignity, take your money, take your house, take your trust, take your life.  But hey, don’t take the airplane, they will give you a number.

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    36. Comments…..

      Thomas Jefferson
      November 24th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

      I believe nappotonto’s point was the opt-outers are actually citing the 4th bill of rights..search and seizure laws are needing a warrant which needs a probable cause which is not here….opt-outers are in forming the TSA if you touch me outside my clothing inappropriately, it’s a misdemeanor…inside the clothing, it’s a felony and I will report assault to any officer or attorney—

      THIS IS WAAAY MORE ABOUT  PRIVACY LAWS THAN OPTING OUT!!

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    37. Rabey says:

      This reads like horse shit

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    38. refuse2lose says:

      Comments…..Of course we are TERRORISTS…. somebody has to be made to look like the criminals here,and it sure isn’t the fake boogeymen living in caves. We were always the real targets for this illegal searching and groping,there are no threats to this country. I will wear my new title with PRIDE….. STARVE THE BEAST

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    39. Jason says:

      Just more evidence that the illegitimately elected president is not self-aware enough to even understand what November 2nd meant.

      His own party knows it…and they are now scared to death of the irreparable damage he is doing to their future.

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    40. Anonymous says:

      And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider’s name was Death.

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    41. The Patriot Act is illegal from the get go. It was written before 9/11 and readied for application soon thereafter by individuals bent on the dismantling of the Constitution. Domestic security measures, resulting from the events of 9/11, were well thought out prior to the fact.  George Carlin may have been right when he said, “If you voted, you have nothing to complain about!” This is a country that has sold its soul. Welcome to the new fascist state….

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    42. Crystal says:

      I was already considered one of these for being on the facebook page “wontfly”, what’s one more page.
      Sorry to disappoint socialistic Obama but quite a few Congressman are NOW on that list too :P Boy don’t you money grubbers in Washington feel like a bunch of jackasses now. You’re own people are calling you out!
      Can’t wait for Dec 6th! For those who don’t know about that date, check out http://www.facebook.com/mikedohertynj The Congressman of NJ who is fighting for our rights.

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    43. Become familiar with this form:  SF95, http://www.gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/635588D718E338F385256B1B007FBE64

      Make sure to take down names, badge numbers, and write up what happened as soon as possible thereafter, and, if the TSA screening and legal aspects of this process, entirely violating the limitation on our persons, papers, and effects being treated as chattle property by the government pursuant to the 4th Amendment has discouraged or influenced your travel choice, note your unalienable Right to Travel and Right to Freedom of Choice are both being affected.

      Once you write down everything relating to what was involved in either your treatment or decision making process that was effected by their current policy, contact competent counsel and complete the SF95 according to what you wan to do 1) civil rights claim for money damages, or 2) a writ.

      There’s an old 1971 case that may apply to this too, it’s called “a Bivens action.”  The point being let’s inundate them with claims and the potential for hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuit pay outs and claim settlements.  And note that there may be personal liability against the individual, their retirement etc.

      Time to do more than use the vote to teach our creature in Washington a lesson :)

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    44. overtheedge says:

      Keep in mind that this is the opinion of a political appointee and lacks the power of law. Until this matter hits the courts, everything is speculative.

      I would ask, “If you are dead set on opting out, why are you at the airport?” I would contend that your purpose is to disrupt traffic.

      I am fond of saying that,  “When you look upon society, your greatest mistake is thinking you are looking in a mirror.” The general populace will comply. They might grumble, but it will only be within thier secure social group.
      ————————————-
      The other day on KTUU tv, there was a report that the number chosen for pat-downs was 1 in 100. A few days ago I read an online article where the odds of an individual being killed by a terrorist was roughly equivalent to being killed by an asteroid.

      Please keep in mind the nature of using statistics, but … ,

      We are spending billions on TSA to raise the odds by 1% over the risk of asteroid induced death. Might this really be about fear-reduction and increasing government jobs to present  better GDP numbers?

      The larger the system, the more complexity.

      Everything is connected to everything.
      Everything has to go somewhere.
      There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch. TANSTAAFL
      ————————————-
      Of course this site and others are monitored. I suffer no illusions about threat analysis and the government keeping tabs on me. My file began in 1969.

      I took my oath seriously then and I will never renounced it. However in order to maintain the Constitution, it might be neccessary to make some seemingly onerous decisions. After all, we are dealing with sheeple prone to panic spells. Sometimes expediency mandates that the trouble be terminated, your Constitutional rights end at the end of your nose. Encroach on someone else’s and you better expect the hammer to fall.

      That being said, too much percieved encroachment and …  well, Every government walks a fine line between management and revolution. Tipping points tend to be NOT by actions, but rather by failing to communicate the reason for the action.

      If you have a problem with lactose intolerance, why are you drinking milk? Same goes for air travel.

      Don’t think that just because you own a share of a tiger, your continued poking it in the ribs with a sharp stick will be ignored.  The nature of government is management (usually managing their way from one crisis to the next). Let your conscience (as well as your freedom and monetary assets) be your guide.
      ——————————————-
      Some time back, I saw some statistics that claimed that 35% of the US populace had never left their hometown and 65% had never left their home state.

      With electronic connectivity, air travel’s energy inefficiency, peak oil long past, national debt and the above paragraph, why would we continue to foster mass air travel?  

      Everything is REALLY connected to everything.

      Besides, just how does any expenditure for recreation/vacation/visiting by air travel add to  your survival preparations? Don’t lay your load of feces on my bread and try to call it peanut butter.

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    45. As someone who has been treated like a criminal before for just crossing the border ( http://secondpagemedia.com/blog/?p=38 ), I didn’t like it then and I sure as hell don’t like where this is all going now.

      More people need to resist this.  Strength in peaceful numbers.

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    46. Hi There says:

      The TSA was created in the last administration as part of the PATRIOT Act. Everyone but a few standouts said that the PATRIOT Act was nonsensical AND un-Constitutional.

      The last administration did this over a span of a decade. Slowly making us feel safer, while fitting us all with identification collars. The current administration doesn’t have the balls to look this situation over and say ‘That’s ridiculous, this is America’.

      What right do minimum wage toolboxes have to look at my naked body, my son’s naked body, my wife’s naked body? They have no right.

      So No Rights, No Flights.

      It’s not just Obama. Don’t be myopic.

      Hi There, I’m Reason, Get to Know Me

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    47. Paul Revere says:

      The more extremes that the U.S. government tries to impose on common people the more it reveals it’s own growing insecurity in the world and in this country.  It’s not a popular notion to bring up with most American idiots but there is no mention whatsoever of Washington D.C. or the United States of America  in the Bible.  With that, and as far as I’m concerned, the federal governments’ eventual destiny is sealed.  The eternal reign of this so-called  SUPER-POWER does not fit into God’s final plans and it will meet it’s demise before the second coming of Christ.          

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    48. Speckk says:

      My local paper quoted a TSA official stating that less than 3% of people were getting pat-downs. That includes lots of people with wheel chairs and medical devices, and people who highly value personal modesty or know enough about the dangers of radiation to avoid the scanners. Maybe that’s just <3% at the Salt Lake Airport, but that still means 4 or 5 people on your average flight get felt up.

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    49. Badvoodoodaddy says:

      Well if I remember my history lessons right,  Our country was founded by Domestic Extremists.  Or at least  I am sure that the king of England and his court considered them to be extremists.  Our Constitution was necessary so that things like this would not be an issue.  If we give up our constitutional rights because of the acts of terrorism that have effected our country, then the terrorists and our tyrannical government have already won.  As I have read some of the responses to this article I have heard many different opinions, many not based on any fact at all some based on fact, albeit misguided fact.  We have a Constitution for a reason, to guide this country with a fair set of rules and rights.  Our Constitution is not up for interpretation, depending on what we are trying to accomplish at the time.  The Fourth amendment rights that we have are there for OUR protection not for the government to use for there own agenda.  If we do not stand up and protect our god given rights(not our government given rights) then we will lose them to tyrants.  This is just one more assault in and on-going fight to keep what has always been ours.  With out our rights then the tyrants can do anything they want to us and we will be right back in the middle of a Monarchy as we were in the 18th century.  We need to stand up and stand up right now for what is ours if we have any chance of saving even a small part of what is left.  Remember that we have let this happen to us and we are to blame.  Wake up and smell the coffee.

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    50. Wasn’t it just a few short years ago that Hillary Clinton said:

      • I’m sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you’re not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we’re Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree… with any administration.

      • We are Americans, We have the right to participate and debate any administration.

      I suppose that it all depends on which administration you’re talking about. If its ‘our’ administration, you are criticising, you are a ‘domestic extremist’, if its ‘your’ adminstration we are crtiticizing, we are ‘debaters’.

      Typical double standard of these people.

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    51. REB says:

      What was that Thomas Jefferson(you remember him dont you…that extremist toublemaking rebel) said?
      Ahh yes…”When injustice becomes the law…Rebellion becomes duty”! Nuff said!

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    52. Anonymous says:

      Hillory is looking a little rough here lately. 

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    53. eugend66 says:

      Comments….. US auto makers lose market share because US consumers let them down. US airline companies will follow if cooler heads will prevail. GESTAPO tactics work until they don`t
      DoH want to advise what you eat, where you go, what you buy, how you spend your extra money you may have, etc.
      With no extra money coming in, things will change. They (TSA)
      want to hire even more goons, with salaries 50% bigger than an
      average Joe working in the private sector. It`s advertised on pizza delivery boxes.
      Handling someone elses balls is not a job for normal people,
      just to be the one with the baton, requires a weird skill.
      Hiring idiots to handle average people is the wrong way to go,
      with no compasion, or brains, only being able to follow stupid
      regulations that`s making them dangerous. Their extra hours are payed at ~ $23 …. . They get bonuses … . For nothing !  
      May J Napolitano rot in hell !

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    54. holydiver says:

      Comments.hey john pistole.i’m a proud domestic terrorist.i wear the label proudly,screw you and the ZIONIST DHS!

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    55. No, monitoring of transatlantic phone calls is not the same thing as pornoscanners. No, detention of terrorists captured in foreign countries is not the same as nationalizing GM. No, breaking down the intel wall between the FBI and the CIA is not the same as the government controlling my medical care.

      Guys? The TSA is a direct violation of the 4th amendment. It’s visible. It’s everywhere. It hits us all. It’s not an issue of keeping tabs on “chatter”. The two concepts are 180 degrees different.

      Think about this: why does No Fly Day exist? Why does the tea party exist, when all of the mumbling and griping about infringements upon our rights did nothing? Think, ok?

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    56. Iggy says:

      Comments…..
      This post could have been titled: Napolitano Brands Hillary Clinton Domestic Extremist.

      “officially addresses those who are opposed to… the enhanced airport screening procedures as ‘domestic extremists’.”

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/11/21/2010-11-21_hillary_clinton_id_avoid_tsa_patdown_if_i_could_but_its_a_necessary_evil.html

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    57. Hammerun says:

      Calling us domestic extremists and or any other of their labels are nothing but more of their Method of Operation.  They want to shut us up and just go along with their plans no matter what we feel or is right. Just go sit in the corner and be quiet!! I think that there are only about 8 to 10% of the population that are in on this and they are schooled and have the time to steer this crap. Soon we are going to get fed up with their shit and they will be put down in their places where they belong. The last time I checked, the majority ruled in this country. Unless the Supreme is involved. These people don’t have the nuts for a good down in the dirt fight.

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    58. Bill says:

      Watch this for a laugh (sorta)…….

      http://www.hulu.com/watch/194728/saturday-night-live-message-from-tsa

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    59. wetwrks says:

      “If the American people fail this time as we did with bailouts and healthcare, the end result will be backscatter machines in schools, malls, stadiums, and any other public venue which is deemed a security threat by our government.”

      This is already happening. 2 courthouses in Colorado already have installed these scanners.

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101124/ap_on_re_us/us_courthouse_scanners

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    60. Abel Danger has declared Threat Level Pastel Lemon Chiffon as only threat to civil aviation is that deployed by ADT, Senior Executive Service and Crown Agents.  See “Abel Danger News” at http://www.youtube.com for regular updates regarding aviation security.  Agent Chips, Abel Danger

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      If enforcing my constitutional rights makes me an “extremist” so be it, I will be in good company.

      As to all those blaming either Republicans (President Bush) or Democrats (President Obama) I would suggest that “we” are all part of the problem.

      Proof is in one vote.  The vote in the Senate to filibuster “by not allowing a vote” on the law that would require all corporations to declare 100% of their political donations was prevented from even getting voted on by 98% of Republicans, 40% of Democrats, ??% of Libertarians, ??% of Independents.  The two Republicans that voted to hold a vote, were not up for re-election and therefore could do what they wanted and not go along with the Republican majority.

      All of the elected officials that prevented this much needed legislation from even being voted on, need to be removed from office.

      Now the Republicans control the House, will they introduce this type of legislation, no way! 

      Will the Democrats change the law in the Senate (the Republicans said they would) that would require only a 51% vote on any law for the NEXT SIX YEARS?   I hope so, but fear they will not…if not they need to be voted out of office (all political parties that vote against changing the rules back to 51%).

      Wake up Americans, if you vote for a candidate that receives large corporate campaign contributions, they are not representing you.

      This has been 30 – 60 years in the making (Citizen’s United vs FEC) and the Republicans won, read about the Two Santa Claus theory if you do not believe me.  In reality, while Republicans are worse, both parties are to blame…wake up. This was not the Supreme Court’s mandate as specified in our Constitution.

      And the Tea Party is almost 99% funded by large corporations, wake up.
       
      Thus there is only one American party today made up of Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians and the Tea Party.  This one party is completely in the pocket of corporate America.

      I am sure there are a few Independents and a few Libertarians that are not in the pocket of corporate America but I do not know who they are, do you?  (Don’t think Ron Paul complete qualifies either.)

      If you do not have three choices, you have no choice!

      We need two more viable political parties to have a choice.

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    62. noctumz says:

      Vague laws create full prisons/detention centers. After reading the definitions some time ago I have made a decision to leave this country as I believe these ambiguous and vague “laws” will provide the over zealous militarized police system carte blanche. The simple truth is that we the people are the value of this country, it is our labor and energy that gives those government bonds any value, via the tax collection process. In the future anyone who disrupts this business process will be removed as not to infect others with their ideology. If you really want to know what is happening learn the economics of our system and all will become clear, follow the money and then make a decision which best suits you and your family. But dont wait–do it now!!

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    63. JD Ebberly says:

      I am fed up.

      We need a major revolution in Amerika.

      Ten years ago.

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