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    True Defiance: I Challenge You To Survive The Coming Collapse

    Brandon Smith
    July 3rd, 2013
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    lexingtongreen

    Every Fourth of July, the temptation for many writers within the liberty movement is to reflect on the despair of freedoms lost, the philosophical ideals of generations gone by and the rage we all feel at the tyrannical mechanizations of the power elite operating with impunity today. It is easy for us to get caught up in the analysis of the thing. It is easy for us to live within the theoretical and intellectual boundaries of our own heads, to debate the merits of that which has already come to pass and hypothesize over crises yet to come. As disturbing as the ongoing collapse of America truly is, for many people, experiencing it academically feels much safer and easier than placing our feet on the Earth and dealing with it in a concrete manner.

    This Fourth of July, I grow weary of the intellectual mind games and political postulations of ideological purists and sunshine patriots. It has never been enough to simply fantasize about reduced government, free markets, third-party candidates, protected civil liberties, etc. It has never been enough to simply back a Libertarian candidate, march around with signs and slogans, or even march around open carrying one’s firearm. These are not solutions to the problem. They are not true acts of defiance, because they are all tactics that function only within the parameters of the game. To defy the game, one must stop playing the game. The activist methods currently in play today serve only to make ourselves feel better about the darker truth of our situation. They give us false hope, not real hope.

    This Fourth of July, I’m not going to talk about what we have lost. At this point, anyone worth a damn already knows what we have lost. Those who remain oblivious, in light of the recent avalanche of government scandals being exposed and the brash and unapologetic admissions of the political elite, are oblivious because they wish to be so. They are a waste of time and oxygen. If they really wanted to know the fate of this country, then they would be reading this article now and working to change things for the better.

    There is no excuse for ignorance today. The unadulterated facts are right at their fingertips, right out in the open air. The stench of criminality and corruption is curling the hairs in their noses and triggering their gag reflex. They know it is there instinctively. The churning in their stomachs tells them it is there. If they do nothing, they do so because it suits them. They do so because to do something tangible, to do something real, is either too frightening for their tiny spirits to handle or too exhausting for their weak bodies to pursue.

    I want to talk about what you can do, right now, to change the course of the future. I want to challenge you to remove yourself from the game. I want to challenge you to stop waiting around for some white knight on a horse to come and save you from the shadows. I want to challenge you to stop waiting around for other people to give you a plan. I want to challenge you to create your own plan, build your own solutions and act as a legitimate individual for the sake of liberty. I want to ensure that you have at least the bare minimum tools you will need to set your own course and determine your own destiny.

    I hear far too much talk lately within the movement of grand schemes, legal schemes, political schemes and activism schemes with no finite goals. These schemes rely on top-down strategies and centralize the energy and efforts of the movement into the hands of a few who in the end may or may not be trustworthy. It is this kind of apathy that put us in the terrible position we now wallow in.

    We must stop waiting for other people, no matter how well-spoken or prominent, to fight our battles for us. With oligarchy and big-government despotism accelerating out of control, it is time for proponents of freedom to make themselves ready or shut-up. Anyone who has not, at the very least, taken these basic steps toward his own survival independence is in no position to complain about the state of the world, for he has done absolutely nothing to make himself ready to do anything about it.

    These are the absolute minimum preparations you will need to fight back against the collapse of our nation and our culture.

    Store A Six-Month Supply Of Food

    There are far too many people, even within the liberty movement, who talk a big game when it comes to defeating tyranny, yet have little to no means of providing their own sustenance. I don’t care what your financial situation is. The world hasn’t fallen apart yet, and anyone can find a way to set aside enough money for a primary food source that will last half a year.

    Six months of stored food is not much, but it will give you time to arrange for alternative sources as well as last you until growing season.

    Those who focus only on ammo and firearms and forsake food storage believing that they will be able to “take what they need” or “hunt what they need” are already dead. They will do nothing to advance the cause of freedom and are, frankly, too stupid to survive. Sorry, but there it is.

    Beginners should focus on the Mormon Four: hard red winter wheat, powdered milk, sugar or honey, and salt (not sea salt, look for iodized salt). It wouldn’t be fun, but a human being can indeed subsist on these four simple foodstuffs. Add in a few wild edibles or garden vegetables, and you will have all the nutrients and calories you need to live — and to make a difference. All of these items, or similar items, can be bought cheaply in bulk. There is no excuse not to have a six-month supply stored away.

    Find A Water Source

    Water filtration must be accompanied by a steady water source. If you have consistent rain in your region, then there is no problem. If you live in a place that stays dry for weeks on end, then you won’t last long. Find a water source now, or store 55-gallon drums in your home. A human being needs about 1 gallon of water per day just to stay hydrated, let alone clean. It takes only three to seven days for a person in need of water to die. Without clean water, you are useless to the fight. This means, at minimum, storing three 55-gallon drums of water per person for about a six-month supply of water.

    Buy A Rifle

    Plenty of people own a “gun.” But if you do not own a military caliber rifle, preferably of high capacity and accurate past 200 yards, you aren’t ready. Even with today’s exploding prices, if the average person gave up cable TV, his high-priced cellphone bill and a few other amenities, he could easily purchase one within a few months. If you can’t adequately defend yourself, then you cannot defend others, and you certainly can’t defend the dying principles of a nation.

    Buy 1,000 Rounds Of Ammo

    Anyone who shoots avidly, or who has been in actual combat, knows that 1000 rounds of ammo is not much, and could be easily expended in a single firefight.  That said, it is the minimum you will need to live through an altercation during collapse; 500 rounds to practice before an event, 500 rounds for defense, and that’s only if your training is incredibly versatile.  The practice is more important than the ammo stockpile.

    Buy Proper Clothing

    You must have at least one pair of waterproof or water-resistant boots, one strongly stitched cold-weather coat, two pairs of non-cotton utility pants, two non-cotton utility shirts, three pairs of wool socks, two sets of thermal layer clothes (if you live in a colder climate), one wool cap, two pairs of warm gloves (I recommend bow hunter’s gloves with Thinsulate), and one sleeping bag rated to the extremes of your particular area. These items should be earth-colored to draw little attention.

    Sanitation

    Take a look at the history of any modern collapse and you will find an immediate breakdown of infrastructure services, including electricity, water and sanitation. Planning a means of sanitation will allow you to remain healthy and give you and your family a sense of comfort. When people live like animals, they start to think and act like animals. They forget themselves and react stupidly, or desperately. The act of keeping oneself and one’s living environment clean could make all the difference in one’s overall success in a post-collapse world.

    Grow A Garden

    If you have a yard, you should have a garden. If you have a sliver of a yard, the entire sliver should be planted. If you live in an apartment building, you should have already asked the owners if you can start a raised-bed garden on the roof. If you have ample property, you should be ashamed if you do not already have ample vegetables growing right now. Again, there’s no excuse. Make it happen.

    Find Two Neighbors Who Are On Board

    I can’t count how many times I’ve heard people whine about operations security (OPSEC) and how no one should know anything about your prepping lifestyle for fear folks may come calling during collapse.  My position and the position of anyone with any sense is that without mutual aid, no amount of OPSEC is going to save you. If you don’t have a neighborhood watch, you have nothing; and all your secrecy will have, in the end, sabotaged you.

    Find two neighbors. They don’t have to live right next door. But they should be close by, and they should have their own preps. If they are on the fence, convince them otherwise. If they are on board but not stocking enough goods, show them this article and make them see the error of their ways. This doesn’t mean you have to give them the grand tour of your pantry or your gun safe, but you do have to share your philosophical position and at least some of your knowledge.

    Find One Barter Partner

    Find at least one other prepared person who also has a trade skill or who produces a viable necessity, and build a trade relationship with him now. It takes only two people to start a barter market. That core trade network will grow as the crisis grows. It is inevitable. Barter markets have become the primary trade markets in every country in the world in the midst of severe financial volatility today. They are the natural state of the free market and the only means by which the American economy could be rejuvenated.

    Find One Retreat Location

    There is no such thing as a perfectly secure homestead. There is no such thing as an infallible plan. A backup is not only practical, but essential. It should be far enough away from your current location to give you distance from the kind of threat that would actually drive you out of your home, yet close enough to be reached under labored conditions. There should be water nearby, as well as natural sheltering land features.

    There is no shame in retreating from an unwinnable scenario and living to fight another day.

    Bury One Survival Cache

    There are no guarantees in survival except those guarantees we make for ourselves. Never assume that the gear you have in your hands will always be there. There may come a situation in which you could be separated from all of your goods. A cache makes this horrifying situation a survivable situation. Food, water, first aid, clothing and a means of self-defense should be included.

    You Should Be No More Than 20 Pounds Beyond Your Ideal Weight

    A small spare tire can give you extra energy in the event that food is scarce. A large spare tire is a liability that will make you slow, clumsy and easy to kill. You should know your ideal weight given your height, and you should never allow yourself to grow fat beyond a 20-pound limit. Without personal health, you have nothing.

    The list above constitutes years of survival experience and knowledge coupled with my realization that most people tend to do the minimum required in any given situation. When it comes to prepping for collapse, however, many people do not know what the “minimum” actually is, so they do nothing. I’m sure there are plenty of other survivalists out there who would disagree with the requirements above and either increase or decrease them accordingly. I’m not interested. The time for debate is over.

    At this point, the only thing that matters is whether each individual can make himself or herself ready to live without government aid (or the empty promise of aid), and thus capable of defying the objectives of a dangerous rogue establishment.  This will be the TRUE test of one’s ability to dissent.  If every single American took the above steps (these very simple and easy-to-afford steps), I would have no concerns for the future of our society. In fact, I would be absolutely certain of the downfall of any entity seeking to undermine the freedoms and principles of this country. As a nation, we would be at least marginally equipped to handle any event, no matter how heinous. But to hope for every citizen in this day and age to take such measures is a pipe dream. My only goal now is to make sure that the people who preach the doctrine of freedom, the people of the liberty movement, are actually ready to turn their words into action.

    You can contact Brandon Smith at:  brandon@alt-market.com

    Alt-Market is an organization designed to help you find like-minded activists and preppers in your local area so that you can network and construct communities for mutual aid and defense.  Join Alt-Market.com today and learn what it means to step away from the system and build something better.

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    1. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      GOT SPARKLERS ?

      this 4th of july BUY A FEW CASES OF SPARKLERS AND STORE THEM IN A COOL DRY PLACE AWAY FROM HEAT AND SPARKS … they make excellent ‘pyro ignition sources’ when bundled together for home made things that go … ‘BIG BADDA BOOM’ .

      * not for kids

      N.O. ;0p

      • Be informed says:

        Nice article Brandon. To you and everyone out there. You know what I found that is bothering me the most about this government and really most if not all governments? Choice and the freedom to decide your own destiny without interference.

        I just read something on Before It Is News about BO trying to force people to move to the cities and the suburbs. This pure manure about biodiversity. While anyone now would tell anyone in the government to go F themselves, they will live where they want to, it shows how the governments of the world want to RAPE you of freedoms.

        It is no wonder that all of us with any sense hold strong to the Constitution that prevents this government rape of freedoms. It is no wonder that any of us with any sense realizes that with each blackening out of the basic freedoms and basic liberties we get closer and closer to that police state of utter hell. Any of us with any basic sense understands that the governments of the world want the masses as brain dead as possible and to turn to the deepest of blind conformity let someone else do your thinking for you.

        I see this day in and day out of raping of freedoms of people that have no plans to overthrow the government. Just people that want to be left alone to live their live in their own personal pursuit of happiness that bothers no one. Yet those in probably all governments hate freedom seekers and those that choose to live their lives with those foundations of freedoms given to us.

        The masses however like the laziness of having someone else think for them and do everything else for them. The masses try to shovel this crap down everyone’s throat and any outside that sickening BOX of being part of the HERD is deemed a maverick and needs to either be brought into the herd or CULLED and ultimately gotten rid of.

        Again and again this occurs that freedoms are raped from EVERYONE, yet it is being allowed by a majority that is too stupid to figure out what the end plan is for not only them but again, EVERYONE. To many being androids and controlled like some fictional Star Trek Borg this is highly desired and these characters would gladly enjoy this being a robot. For others that have minds and free spirits being some insect drone is worth than death.

        This 4th of July we all can see firsthand the way the governments of the world, not just the U.S. have driven the people into enslavement of not only the physical body, but mind and spirit. We can see firsthand what was considered basic freedoms 30 years ago now gone. We can see how 30 years ago we spoke with the freedoms of first Amendment and no one tried to censor your every word as “offensive” to someone. You can see other freedoms disappearing, most of the basic Bill of Rights disappearing as being replaced with let the government handle it for you.

        This 4th. of July you can see how we as a people are no longer considered responsible enough to possess the most cherished liberties that up until recently was considered automatic and not to even be questioned as guaranteed under law. Now those freedoms are being chipped away and loop holed and replaced with a controlled and “desired” set of regulations that the majority wants. All the while the sheep are lead to slaughter not fighting and scratching all the way to the butcher’s blade, but happily walking and many times running right off the abyss. Something to think about come this 4th of July and another reason to prepare and stock-up the absolute most you can for what is coming. And it is coming so fast and ugly to everyone on this planet.

        • DRD5508 says:

          BI, well stated, very true and sad at the same time. You as well as many of us saw this coming. We warn people to no avail. Warn people of aspartame, people still drink diet sodas. MSG in food, they still eat it. Chems in the water, people still drink it. Flu shots with mercury and aluminum, people still panic to get it. Aids, drugs, etc..
          Then we have Wounded Knee, Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC bombing, 911, and they still won’t listen.
          People make their choices that lead them away from freedom.

          • durango kidd says:

            If you want to be Free, remain Free; if you want to ensure that personal liberty continues in America, YOU must become politically active where you live.

            Start a Freedom Cell in your neighborhood or through your HOA. Americans must take back their country from the Dual Citizens that control it, neighborhood by neighborhood.

            To “drop out” is to “cop out”. Our Founding Fathers engaged the PTB in their time. WE must do the same in ours, using the tools and weapons available to US. The US Constitution is our best tool and most effective weapon.

            A police state in America is unacceptable. A government run by the uber rich for the uber rich corporate state is unacceptable. Current trends can be reversed because our elected officials are controlled by a small percentage of Dual Citizens who ARE politically active.

            Engage your employees or be enslaved by them.

            • KY Mom says:

              Jefferson Weeping
              by Andrew P. Napolitano

              “Do you have more personal liberty today than on the Fourth of July 2012?

              When Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, he used language that has become iconic. He wrote that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, and among them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Not only did he write those words, but the first Congress adopted them unanimously, and they are still the law of the land today. By acknowledging that our rights are inalienable, Jefferson’s words and the first federal statute recognize that our rights come from our humanity – from within us – and not from the government.

              The government the Framers gave us was not one that had the power and ability to decide how much freedom each of us should have, but rather one in which we individually and then collectively decided how much power the government should have. That, of course, is also recognized in the Declaration, wherein Jefferson wrote that the government derives its powers from the consent of the governed.”

              “The litany of the loss of freedom is sad and unconstitutional and irreversible. The government does whatever it can to retain its power, and it continues so long as it can get away with it. It can listen to your phone calls, read your emails, seize your DNA and challenge your silence, all in violation of the Constitution. Bitterly and ironically, the government Jefferson wrought is proving the accuracy of Jefferson’s prediction that in the long march of history, government grows and liberty shrinks. Somewhere Jefferson is weeping.”

              Lew Rockwell dot com

          • islander says:

            Interesting that you included Wounded Knee in your comment . It was the Army trying to disarm the people that led to that nasty mess . Murdering bastards . I don’t think they will be quite so lucky with their next gun confiscation

        • Barterman says:

          Once over half of the population decides its had enough that will be the tipping point to cause social change.change being what we call SHTF. peace

          • Justice says:

            Barterman: I believe that you are correct. Regretfully greater than 50 % of the current population is mildly to completely dependent on Government subsidies and handouts at the expense of the taxpayer. That is why we have had the deplorable social change we currently are experiencing. We all need to keep our Bible and gun close at hand. The day is rapidly approaching where we may be required to put both to very good use.

            • sixpack says:

              Everyone who is even mildly dependent on govt handouts should be using those handouts now, to prepare for when they are no longer available.

              The key is to use less than you get. Period. ANY poor person can do that.

              Even someone who can get a food box from the local charities, can set some of it aside for later, thereby adding to their preparedness capabilities, so we won’t need to shoot them later, when the charities run out of food (or the govt seizes the Church’s food stores).

              Asking your church for a food box now, in this day of collapse is not shameful, in fact, the food you store from that can save your life once there are no more govt handouts.

              I say, do whatever you can do now, even if that means asking for some help. You may not be able to get that help later. Take whatever ‘gifts’ you can get, while you can.

              Remember—if you don’t have it in your hands, you don’t have it at all.

              • Grasshopper says:

                Female preppers– when you go to the ladies room, it is very simple to take extra handful of paper towels, napkins, etc. and store in purse. This can be your paper now for personal use. Also, be sure to buy a lot when on sale, store for TSHTF and don’t touch it… that is for later.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Grasshopper says:

                  “Female preppers– when you go to the ladies room, it is very simple to take extra handful of paper towels, napkins, etc. and store in purse. This can be your paper now for personal use. Also, be sure to buy a lot when on sale, store for TSHTF and don’t touch it… that is for later.”

                  And folks wonder why this country is in the toilet!

                  Pun intended!!

                  You got folks like this.

                  Hey Grasshopper, did you play lotto along with that advice?

                • Them Guys says:

                  Also: Not all on food stamps are scamming the system. The recent near doubling of reciepients, many, are due to fed govnt idiotic insane causes of vast job losses, such as NAFTA and the other such devestating policies.

                  And consider once funds are approved to any fed or state gov agency, they Will Find a way to spend it all. Otherwise next year they get less. Therefore, if it is moneys that either usa citizens get or it WILL be diverted to Other nations..Like Hobammys new Promices to Give africa BILLIONS in Infrastructure “aid”….

                  Well I much Rather see US citizens, many who likly did work all their lives untill a twist of Fate occured and be it nafta type causes, or disabeling injuires etc, they Now do truely Need help. I rather see Them recive food stamps compared to africa-israel-india-mexico-et al nations get anything. Especially when one realizes most if not all of the other nations never did a thing to assist america.

                  Remember one Major reason We, americans are or were thought of as so “special” of a people, is that We are who Always get their First when disasters strike. Even if it is an enemy we assist. That is a good thing. It is a Bed Rock of Christian principals to help needy folks.

                  And NONE should count more than Our Own fellow citizenery.

                  All of those “I got Mine…Screw everyone else” types out there, also remember You do Not know what tommorrow holds for You or Your’s. Regardless how many backups or insuracne plans or union or job provided “gaurentees” you May now believe you can depend upon…What “IF”? What if, those back up plans get caught in a 300 MPH whirlwind Tornado and every prep along with Your home ends up in My county Tens of miles away, dammaged beyond use?

                  Those folks too May need assistance or food stamps or even Rent paymts too one day. Would They rather we all say NO! NO help for You if You cannot provide for slef, go sit on curb till Dead. That aint the american way I was raised to believe in.

                  And the ones who say Charity is the only acceptable methods…Yeah that sounds swell On Paper or forums. However I got a funny feeling that most of those type folks I have met , the I got mine screw others crowd, are likly the Last people who ever donate to charity. I cannot say for certain, just it is what my Gut instinct says is all…Usually Greed goes along with that type person. Everyone knows or has met a few in their lifetimes. And that greed factor does not lend itself to charity as a rule. They got many excuses though!

                  When a Bum asks for spare change, they Always say “If I give a nickle to that bum guy, he will probobly buy booze” Yes he may. So what. Maybe That is what he needs. I know its better he does not drink booze…But he does. Why not give the guy a dollar if it may assist him or brighten His day. Because many of Todays “Bums” panhandleing change, Used to be a Vienam Vet or an Iraq Vet whos head is screwed up bad due to War etc…You just never know. Besides helping others makes You feel swell inside. Remember Todays food stamp folks Aint all scammers. They Are Fellow Americans.Down on Luck as You may be one day.

              • I can remember after the hurricane that those who were really not in need hoarded or stockpiled everything they could get their hands on leaving NOTHING for those who really needed it. There were thousands of these assholes. These were the same people that played the system (welfare and foodstanps) to steal and were lazy pisspots who couldn’t wipe their own ass. Now these morons are the ones who take from those who really need it…incidentally the same happens with medicaid/medicare thefts. Our country if full of lazy despicable thieves.

                However we must recognize those truly in need and help them…especially the indigent (truly destitute), the widow and orphans, many women who loose their husbands end up in a really bad situation. I used to get a real laugh from the complainers who looked down there noses at those who really needed help. Now many of these same hypocrites have been forced into a position of needing help.

                We must learn to discern between the assholes and the truly needy.

                • sixpack says:

                  @annonymous:

                  “I can remember after the hurricane that those who were really not in need hoarded or stockpiled everything they could get their hands on leaving NOTHING for those who really needed it.”

                  THAT’S THE SAME FUCKING ARGUMENT THEY USED TO CRIMINALIZE PREPPING!

                  We’re “hoarders” who are keeping food away from other people who need it…are any of us here going to start passing out our preps to “those who need it”?

                  ..because we have more than they think we need…

                  I’m of limited means and I’m getting together as much as I possibly can, by ANY and ALL legal means, ASAP and I don’t give a damn what people think of me.

                  If I stuck my head in the sand every time some asshole called me names, I’d be dead long before now.

                  Anyone who hasn’t got the GUTS to go the distance deserves what they get. This is not the time for political correctness. Eloquence will not put food in your mouth.

                  There is no appropriate time to stock up on what you can get, other than to get it while you can.

                  I may be poor, but that doesn’t mean I have to have a co-dependent mindset.

                  Let he who intends to starve while remaining “politically correct” cast the first stone…if you have the strength left, that is.

          • howdy- doody says:

            +You speak the truth. if we need an example of what you speak, just look no further than the Egyptians. It’s hard to say no to a million people all packed into one city. The military sided with the people, as they didn’t want to slaughter their own brothers.
            The people may not have known exactly what they wanted in a new government, but they sure as hell didn’t want what they had.

            • Egypt, Joseph was a true Jew…reminds me of the Zionist ploy to own the world…gee what a smart fella Joseph was right? He was an asshole if the Bible account is true about owning everything after the famine…sounds like there is more to the story than other will ever realize…

              You good Christian dispensationalist really love that story and the ‘story’ of Esther the great queen of mean. Good to look at but full of poison. Discern people…the old testament prophets though were mostly on point. Daniel however is out of sequence (chapters) and tends to confusion.

              Looking for a temple rebuilding project…Israel has one for you but it will come to naught and is a crapshoot.

          • ENFP says:

            Nearly half the population depends on government checks. So that will happen only when the government stops paying.

        • KY Mom says:

          Interesting article about those who signed the Declaration of Independence.

          “At the end of this column, you’ll find a link that will take you to a free copy of the book, “They Signed for Us.” You may read it online or download it and print your own copy. The file also includes a list of all of the signers and the states they represented, plus the complete text of the Declaration of Independence.”

          Declaration of Independence — Would you be committed enough to sign?

          Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

          Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.

          Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.

          Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.

          They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

          What kind of men were they?”

          “…Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn’t.

          So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots.

          It’s not much to ask for the price they paid.

          Remember: freedom is never free!

          Title: They Signed For Us
          Personal Liberty dot com
          (Direct link below)

          • Anonymous says:

            Excellent…these men risked it all for the chance to be free.

          • Butterknife says:

            Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated, but they signed the Declaration of Independence
            knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

            Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the
            British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

            Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

            Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

            At the battle of Yorktown , Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

            Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

            John Hart was driven from his wife’s bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.

            • Secundus says:

              “For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished.”

              How many of us are prepared to do even a fraction of what the Founders took upon themselves SO WE MIGHT BE FREE. Not the empty “heroics” of a military that kills in distant lands and calls the defenders terrorists, but someone who put EVERYTHING HE CHERISHED on the line for the remnants of freedom we still have today.

              It makes me want to hang my head in shame for what we have become as a people. I hope to God we wake from our stupor and seize back what BELONGS TO US.

              • MadAtchew says:

                TPTB sealed most of the caves I know of around Virginia and West Virginia…no man can enter ever again without cutting torches and heavy equipment to gain access. Even critters are blocked from entering caves because the bars are so close together or simply a steel plate welded and cemented in place…what a rip off to those of us who spelunk and/or look to nature for survival in these here parts. Living in the open or under cover of forest is a far cry from guaranteed given the onslaught of Satellites, Drone technology and autonomous ground assault vehicles….IR, Thermal Imaging, weapons detection, and heavy armament will be the rule of law soon enough. Air superiority means good bye to shaggy’s mystery van parked on the hillside off the grid. Sadly they will try to hunt us down like they do in pakistan and elsewhere. It’s proven effective for the war criminals. We must rise up with a multitude of loud voices, sharpened pitchforks, loaded rifles and blazing middle fingers!

                The point is, get ready now, practice, plan, prepare and perhaps even pray. The writing is on the wall. His-story (History) is being repeated. Ignorance is our biggest enemy.

                Thank you B.I. and all other worthy contributors to this site…You have validated everything I’ve felt at some point, and then some, and helped confirm I’m not alone in this struggle for Freedom…we need to defend Truth because it is the Truth that ultimately sets us ALL free.

              • MadAtchew says:

                According to some farcical signs I’ve, The National Forest Service sealed as many as they can under the typical pretense of protecting wildlife, like bats, and of course I support protecting wildlife, but they make no provisions for any human entry, like gates, or open seasons and these are caves meant for humans to enjoy just the same. The world is Ours to cherish and share…we are stewards and self-regulation works fine in most cases. I believe DeeHsSs is involved because shortly after FalseF’01 every good cave around got sealed for good…even ON PRIVATE LAND. (don’t blame insurance companies or anything like that without noting the pressure TPTB make for all to enjoy)

                This goes hand-in-hand with the sudden appearance of things like F.S.C. “fire safe cigarettes”, BPA in beer cans and Olestra/GMO’s…ramped-up kill-poison-brainwash-kill and nowhere-to-hide-depopulation methods.

                And, truly, all I really ask as well is “WHY?”

                Fight Evil. Protect and Love what is Good. Evil does not need a reason to be other than anything opposite of good and that’s God for short! Expose Lies and blow as many whistles as possible…be intolerant of ignorance! Evil Hates Truth! And “smile when you call me that!”…Let the Light Shine On!

                …and “Open Sesame”!

        • Be Informed: Why are the sheep lead to the slaughter?

          When the British troops left Lexington, they fought at Concord Bridge and then headed back to Boston, encountering increasing American resistance on their return. Significantly, many who awaited the British along the road were local pastors (such as the Rev. Phillips Payson [52] and the Rev. Benjamin Balch [53]) who had heard of the unprovoked British attack on the Americans, taken up their own arms, and then rallied their congregations to meet the returning British. As word of the attack spread wider, pastors from other areas also responded.

          The preachers and ministers are worthless in fight against tyranny today! They were the vanguard during the Revolution in 1776..today they are destroyers, and perverse of our nation! They are a shame to the gospel of Jesus Christ and our nation! Dead dogs!

        • Kevin2 says:

          I was in the dentist office waiting room and struck up a conversation with a clean cut maybe 40 year old guy. The topic of technology folded into the NSA spying. This guy could not see any reason how this effected people like, “You and me”. I told him from the JFK Assassination to the Gulf of Tonkin incident and fast forward to no WMD in Iraq Uncle Sam has been less than honest with his nieces and nephews and his thoughts were naive at best and dangerous at worst. The conversation was either over his head or he did not want to continue it because of my position.

          • Them Guys says:

            Ike: Sounds like you are speaking of what King George and his Tyranny British squads called “The Black Robed Regiment”! Those Preachermen then were some of, if not The most, Despised men by the king and brit officers, of all americans who fought or supported the efforts.

            And Unlike most pastors today, back then they did preach the Proper meanings of Romans 13. Pastor Chuck Baldin(also const party prez candadit 2008),has a special section at his website devoted to those early american pastors with descriptions of their bio and deeds etc.

            PS: I Found an exallant website with Tons of great info about our current vile enemys in “other” nations. As well as a great expose on what “Dispensationalisim” Is and Why it is wrong and so devestating for todays deluded christians caught up in it’s Decietfull Web.

            If anybody desires the website ask and I will list it.

            • Them Guys says:

              Kevin2: If you have not yet tried it, try just speaking out loud in a setting such as the local Grocery stores etc. Then observe the faces and expressions of all the folks close enough to have heard it all! I Know I will Never win Any Popularity contests near my home turf. I do that stuff Everytime, Everywhers I am in public and care Not if folks get pissed or dislike me.

              The best is when even a single other person you never met hears it and begins to ask answers as he/she seeks to learn more. Then you get to keep it going and really give the rest there an earfull!…Like Brandon said…”Today there simply Is NO excuses” to not knowing. I do All I possibly can to aleviate that problem.

              • Kevin2 says:

                I don’t care to speak about anything of value to the truly ignorant especially those with a strong opinion absolutely unsupportable by facts. The hard core supporters of either political party are prime examples. When they say, “Oh I think” my thoughts are that you don’t even realize that you don’t and are not bright enough to know that you don’t know. I do find “worshippers of the sphere” comical with their childlike interests. One would think that being a grown man one would not have their life revolve around, “The Big Game”. The very word game implies children. Say, oil peg, fiat currency, Reserve Currency, Federal Reserve, Glass-Steagall and watch the blank expression.

              • MadAtchew says:

                @ Them Guys…YOU are MY kinda people. They tend to call us belligerent, even if we speak softly, and that makes me extremely proud. Lies are like the devil…we have to fight evil, misinformation and ignorance at all times. A little candor goes a long way, and I always say “Smile when you call me that!”!

                • Them Guys says:

                  MadAtchew: Thank you. Yep all you said ditto. What did Christ Teach us? Two bible verses that I am paraphraseing here says “Be as Wise as Serphants…But gental as lambs”

                  And “The children in This Age who are of Darkness, are Wiser…Than the Children of Light”

                  So whats it mean? Fisrt You Must Know what or Who serphants are(Pharisee Rabbi and all their talmudic followers, other verses says so. John ch 8 vs 44, Rev ch 2 vs 9 and others also says this).

                  So that leaves childrens of Light(Gods kids-christians).

                  Dark side= Wiser in THIS age(end age till Christ returns)

                  Light side= Be as Wise as Them too! But do NOT copy their evils and wrongs.

                  One Major problem today and in days gone past is that as a rule, 99+% of Reg avg folks find it nearly Impossible to Believe that Anybody can actually be as cruel and do such evils as for instance what russia kommies did to Torture and Murder. And to Murder off aprox 100-150 MILLION in such brutal horrible ways. “IF” Our types must kill enemys etc? We do so with Regret, we do NOT enjoy it…They the kommies Do.

                  Be wise as serphants fits swell to describe how We must “Think” from Their, the evil dark sides ways so we Know what we are up against. That cannot occure untill Our side gets a handle on, OH YES Their side Can and Does do such unmentionable evil things to Innocent other humans!

                  Seems the worse their evils are the harder for our side to believe it true. So everybody Remains Quite, never speaks of these issues. Yeah that is far easier way to get through life. Or, is also Selfish and self centered. That too is a major problem today eh.

                  What does the bible verse mean “Once a light is Lit, do NOT Hide it Under a bushel basket where No others will see that Light”?…What good to learn and not share with as many others as possible in hope of enlightening them too.

                  Off top of my head here, all I can think of that Christ said to NOT do while spreading His gospel was….If any towns or persons of towns Rejct You or this Gospel Messg…LEAVE at Once! at end of city limits, Shake dust OFF sandles and Do Not Return again. Not come back later or keep trying over and over…But Leave at Once. No return.

                  He also Warnned the apostles If they refuse to Obey that command to Leave, He may not be able to protect them from certain Harm or death by haters of the messg etc.

                  Shake off dust of sandles meant…Even Today in mid east regions They take Offence if You allow the sole of shoe or sandles to Face Them. It is akin to Giveing a person the Middle Finger in usa! Shake dust from sandals meant same. Christ told them to do that as a Sign that the apsotles did not like what was in that towns morals or attitudes etc. And of course that they rejected His gospel nessg….Besides like a middle finger offence act, it meant That town and folks IN it are so corrupt, the apsotles didn’t want even a Tiny dust particle stuck to a sandal shoe to be taken Out and Transported to the Next town! Kinda like a Sign, that town and peoples are so corrupted even the Dust in streets Is Permeated by evils etc!

                  That is the same messg for Todays christians. Good for Non believers as common sense also! Don’t Hide your Light…Spread it to enlighten others and use Light to Destroy Darkness!…Got it? if they Reject you or the messg…Leave dont go back…BUT If they have change of heart and They come to You later on, then ok maybe they finally got it. Give em another chance(but be wise and watch em like a hawk, I meant serphant!).

                  Do not give up Prior to Trying. If everybody did that YOU would never know of Preps etc or reasons why to prep right. Like Freedoms we “own” Temporarily while alive. We Must Pass on freedom the Next gen groups. Knowledge is same way. So are Morals and differences between right and wrong, light and darkness. No it aint easy most days. But it Is Necessary.

                  As a small kid and all my life all I heard was “Never talk of religion or politics publically”

                  Yeah well That is why My Parents gen screwed it up alot. How do others Learn if nobody ever discusses such important issues? Thats how we got so many “I vote Straight ticket Dems always as Thats how MY dad and grandad did it!”…And due to never speak publically of politics, they didn’t Learn why NOT to do such!

                  Why make same Mistakes today? Cause its easier? come on.

          • howdy- doody says:

            Many sheeple are well satisfied in their ignorant bliss. You can never have an intelligent conversation with a sheeple. They will never see how anything applies to them, that is out of their normal everyday sheeple lives.
            But as you well know, they will get their chance to see the folly of their ignorant bliss come back to bite their ignorant asses.

            • Them Guys says:

              What I meant is it is about speaking out and Planting Seeds of ideas-facts-truths in their minds. We may never again see a stranger we did that to. We may never know if those seeds Grew and Flourished. But at least we Tried.

              Like if you are in line at a checkout at the store and hear somebody say something you Know if wrong,yes it usually is a waste to attempt to correct their ideas. But by simply Remarking an opinion out loud so all nearby hear it is planting seeds in their minds.

              • sixpack says:

                “If you repeat the same lie over and over again, eventually people will believe it”.

                When you voice an opposing view of the rhetoric you hear in a crowded store, you force some people to think for themselves for a minute, even if it is only to decide to follow the lies. The “anti-lie” seed was planted just the same and it may grow later, when fertilized with more truth.

            • Kevin2 says:

              howdy-doody

              Unfortunately that will bite all of us.

              Sometimes I envy by brother that loves golf and is oblivious to the world around him; doesn’t know, doesn’t care and doesn’t care to know. Its like being a kid and still believing in Santa.

        • Anonymous says:

          BI

          there’s always been only two kinds of people on this planet those that want to left alone ,and those that wont leave them a lone ,now there is arising a third party of people that i consider myself part of ,they are the one’s that say leave me to fuck alone or il cut your head off and bury you in my back yard with my skid loader

        • Leonard M. Urban says:

          This may sound really nuts, but I think that if most people were to smash their televisions, their minds would clear, and they’d see what’s up in their country, and the world, for that matter. TV seems to have become nothing more than a source of indoctrination to teach Americans how to think, how to live, and what values to cherish. Thanks to television, most people “know” that the gay individual is always the smartest guy in the room, that anyone who questions the current administration is either a racist, conspiracy nut or both, and they know that the “normal” family consists of a single mother with children from various “fathers” and lives on welfare. Smash it now…

          • apache54 says:

            We dropped TV 10 years ago, and our minds have cleared up and we see how TV and other things has kept and is keeping the sheeple in tunnel vision, fat, dumb, and ignorant !
            BUT more and more are slowly waking up ! BIG question is ??? are they to late ? only time will tell!

          • ENFP says:

            Eliminating or at least monitoring TV is especially important for your children. They will see these things as normal and natural and cartoons indoctrinate them with occultism.

          • MadAtchew says:

            TV’s emit subliminal noise and evil only knows what the messages really are…Realize this…many new sets with Ethernet/Blue Tooth/3D etc are setup to monitor your behavior and feed back to Google or wherever…some sets even have cameras in them AND microphones, supposedly only capturing silhouettes but I believe that is BS…By the way, Your Smartphone is 1000 times more invasive and harmful in terms of EMF and direct snooping….so beware…Twilight Zone Orwellian Zipperheads on the loose for our minds and souls.

        • Neet-Neet says:

          Two Constitutions in the United States. 1st was suspended in favor of a Vatican corporation in 1871.

          http://presscore.ca/2012/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/vatican_bank_meeting.jpg

          Pope meeting with the board of directors of The Vatican Bank

          Since 1871 the United States president and the United States Congress has been playing politics under a different set of rules and policies. The American people do not know that there are two Constitutions in the United States. The first penned by the leaders of the newly independent states of the United States in 1776. On July 4, 1776, the people claimed their independence from Britain and Democracy was born. And for 95 years the United States people were free and independent. That freedom ended in 1871 when the original “Constitution for the united states of America” was changed to the “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”. (Notice all capitalization)

          The Congress realized that the country was in dire financial straits, so they made a financial deal with the devil – international bankers — (in those days, the Rothschilds of London ) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend the floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a way of taking back control of the United States and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed. With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia.

          With the passage of “the Act of 1871” a city state (a state within a state) called the District of Columbia located on 10 sq miles of land in the heart of Washington was formed with its own flag and its own independent constitution – the United States’ secret second constitution.

          http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Flag_of_Washington%2C_D.C..svg/250px-Flag_of_Washington%2C_D.C..svg.png

          The flag of Washington’s District of Columbia has 3 red stars, each symbolizing a city state within the three city empire. The three city empire consists of Washington D.C., London, and Vatican City. London is the corporate center of the three city states and controls the world economically. Washington’s District of Columbia city state is in charge of the military, and the Vatican controls it all under the guise of spiritual guidance. Although geographically separate, the city states of London, the Vatican and the District of Columbia are one interlocking empire called “Empire of the City”

          The constitution for the District of Columbia operates under tyrannical Vatican law known as “Lex Fori” (local law). When congress passed the act of 1871 it created a separate corporation known as THE UNITED STATES and corporate government for the District of Columbia. This treasonous act has unlawfully allowed the District of Columbia to operate as a corporation outside the original constitution for the United States and in total disregard of the best interests of the American citizens.

          http://presscore.ca/2012/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Obama-linked-to-Vatican.jpg

          POTUS Obama at the Vatican Corporate headquarters

          POTUS is the Chief Executive (president) of the Corporation of the United States operating as any other CEO of the corporation — governs w/a Board of Directors (cabinet officials) and managers (Senators/Congress) Obama as others before him is POTUS — operating as “vassal king” taking orders once again from “The City of London” through the RIIA (Royal Institute of Intl Affairs). The Illuminati (founded by the The Society of Jesus or Jesuits, the largest Roman Catholic Religious Military Order headed by the Black Pope) created the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in 1919. The American equivalent to the RIIA is the Council of Foreign Relations (CFR). The RIIA and CFR set up Round Table Groups (based on the King Arthur myths).

          What did the Act of 1871 achieve? The ACT of 1871 put the United States back under British rule (which is under Vatican rule). The United States people lost their independence in 1871.

          THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is the constitution of the incorporated UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. It operates in an economic capacity and has been used to fool the People into thinking it governs the Republic. It does not! Capitalization is NOT insignificant when one is referring to a legal document. This seemingly “minor” alteration has had a major impact on every subsequent generation of Americans. What Congress did by passing the Act of 1871 was create an entirely new document, a constitution for the government of the District of Columbia, an INCORPORATED government.

          Instead of having absolute and unalienable rights guaranteed under the organic Constitution, we the people now have “relative” rights or privileges. One example is the Sovereign’s right to travel, which has now been transformed (under corporate government policy) into a “privilege” that requires citizens to be licensed – driver’s licenses and Passports. By passing the Act of 1871, Congress committed TREASON against the People who were Sovereign under the grants and decrees of the Declaration of Independence and the organic Constitution. The Act of 1871 became the FOUNDATION of all the treason since committed by government officials.

          As of 1871 the United States isn’t a Country; It’s a Corporation! In preparation for stealing America, the puppets of Britain’s banking cabal had already created a second government, a Shadow Government designed to manage what “the people” believed was a democracy, but what really was an incorporated UNITED STATES. Together this chimera, this two-headed monster, disallowed “the people” all rights of sui juris. [you, in your sovereignty]

          The U.S.A. is a Crown Colony. The U.S. has always been and remains a British Crown colony. King James I, is not just famous for translating the Bible into “The King James Version”, but for signing the “First Charter of Virginia” in 1606 — which granted America’s British forefathers license to settle and colonize America. The charter guaranteed future Kings/Queens of England would have sovereign authority over all citizens and colonized land in America.

          After America declared independence from Great Britain, the Treaty of Paris, signed on September 3, 1783 was signed. That treaty identifies the King of England as prince of U.S. “Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America“– completely contradicting premise that America won The War of Independence.

          Article 5 of that treaty gave all British estates, rights and properties back to Britain.

          It is agreed that Congress shall earnestly recommend it to the legislatures of the respective states to provide for the restitution of all estates, rights, and properties, which have been confiscated belonging to real British subjects; and also of the estates, rights, and properties of persons resident in districts in the possession on his Majesty’s arms and who have not borne arms against the said United States. And that persons of any other decription shall have free liberty to go to any part or parts of any of the thirteen United States and therein to remain twelve months unmolested in their endeavors to obtain the restitution of such of their estates, rights, and properties as may have been confiscated; and that Congress shall also earnestly recommend to the several states a reconsideration and revision of all acts or laws regarding the premises, so as to render the said laws or acts perfectly consistent not only with justice and equity but with that spirit of conciliation which on the return of the blessings of peace should universally prevail. And that Congress shall also earnestly recommend to the several states that the estates, rights, and properties, of such last mentioned persons shall be restored to them, they refunding to any persons who may be now in possession the bona fide price (where any has been given) which such persons may have paid on purchasing any of the said lands, rights, or properties since the confiscation.

          And it is agreed that all persons who have any interest in confiscated lands, either by debts, marriage settlements, or otherwise, shall meet with no lawful impediment in the prosecution of their just rights.

          It is becoming increasingly apparent to American citizens that government is no longer being conducted in accordance with the U.S. Constitution, or, within states, according to state constitutions. While people have recognized for more than 150 years that the rich and powerful often corrupt individual officials, or exert undue influence to get legislation passed that favors their interests, most Americans still cling to the naive belief that such corruption is exceptional, and that most of the institutions of society, the courts, the press, and law enforcement agencies, still largely comply with the Constitution and the law in important matters. They expect that these corrupting forces are disunited and in competition with one another, so that they tend to balance one another.

          Mounting evidence makes it clear that the situation is far worse than most people think, that during the last several decades the U.S. Constitution has been effectively overthrown, and that it is now observed only as a façade to deceive and placate the masses. What has replaced it is what many call the Shadow Government – created with the illegal passing of the Act of 1871. It still, for the most part, operates in secret, because its control is not secure. The exposure of this regime and its operations must now become a primary duty of citizens who still believe in the Rule of Law and in the freedoms which this country is supposed to represent.

          • Them Guys says:

            Illuminatti was not founded by the Vaticasn. Much can be blamed on corrupt vatican issues. But that illuminatti disinfo sounds like More zio bs to turn us all away from the True control freek enemys of america.

            Everybody Look towards the vatican, while israel and zionist keep destroying the little left of freedom and our american nation.

            As for WRITTEN IN ALL LARGE CAPS, somehow changes a human person or a thing or a nation etc into something entirely different? Only IF you believe it so, I do not.

            In fact You can Mispell my Birth name and I am Stil ME, the Same me as prior to your mispelling of my name.

            Many good patriotic folks buy into the gold fringe flag and all caps wordings…Then end up doing 10 yrs fed Prison. Due to slick productions that Mix some truth with many falsehoods. Then them good folks Try it and end up in Prison. Same as those who rely on slick talkers seminars on How to avoid Taxes, and, tell em, I wave the benifits.

            As if telling fed irs or fbi or even Local cops, “I do not honor a gold fringe flag” or “I wave the benifits” Is going to get a reply back saying “Oh Ok then we just will Leave you alone and bother others”.

            Try that in Real world see where you end up.

            Vatican= Look Away from zionists and Wall st.

            ps unless I am wrong, DC has Always been a 10 sq mi area mandated By the US Const clauses about fed properties and lands use etc. Way Prior to 1871.

            • neetneet says:

              “The Congress realized that the country was in dire financial straits, so they made a financial deal with the devil – international bankers — (in those days, the “Rothschilds” of London ) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend the floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a way of taking back control of the United States and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed. With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia.”

              You do know “Them Guys”, right?

            • neetneet says:

              “The Congress realized that the country was in dire financial straits, so they made a financial deal with the devil – international bankers — (in those days, the “Rothschilds” of London ) thereby incurring a DEBT to said bankers. The conniving international bankers were not about to lend the floundering nation any money without some serious stipulations. So, they devised a way of taking back control of the United States and thus, the Act of 1871 was passed. With no constitutional authority to do so, Congress created a separate form of government for the District of Columbia.”

              You do know “Them Guys”, right?

            • neetneet says:

              @ them guys: meanwhile, “In the REAL world”…

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zQQCSwZwcA

          • Larry S says:

            You do realise that the Washington Coat of Arms goes aways back in England. The three stars etc….

        • Repair Mama says:

          BI, The best way that I have found to remain FREE is to take your life into your own hands.
          Follow the stepes above (i know that you do prep), love your family, and remain active in the things that you can do to make a differance in your community and to others here on the net.
          share information and continue to keep us informed on the earthquake information.
          I don’t post much here, but I am here reading everyday.
          I also go to another site where I get more prepping how to inforation and less drama. Check them out. the survivalist blog . net. I think I even saw the link to them on the right of this article.
          There are articles to follow to do all kinds of prepper things. Canning, gardening, food storage and how to even hide your food and ammo to keep others from finding it. Don’t get discouraged because our politicians all have their heads firmly planted in their butts!
          keep spreading the word and encourgement, there are readers out there that are paying attention!
          thanks so much for all that you do
          happy 4th

        • tayronachan says:

          @BI, Things are going to really start to fly apart here soon. It seems that about every 86 yrs or so, we have a major crisis. It starts with some kind of financial crisis, we had that (and still do imho). It always seems to lead into civil unrest, or civil war, or even world war. Depending on how you do the math, things are really only starting to ramp up. Examples, Depression starts 1929 + 80yrs = 2009. WWII starts 1941 + 80yrs = 2021. We are in the “zone” now.

          I noticed a loaf of bread in my area costs .50 more than last year.

      • TheGhost says:

        be aware of what’s going on its happening but its happening in stages pay attention trust no one but the ones u love and always find another family that’s in know dramatic increase in survivibilty

        • howdy- doody says:

          very good advice. I try to keep my views to myself in public. I already know who is on the same page in my circle of friends. I have great neighbors who are aware of trends in our degrading world, and understand the need to prep. I make every effort now to be like the lowly flyspeck on the wall. say nothing, and be aware of the degrading society around us. keep prepping and keep my mouth shut.

      • Brandon and Burnin Jim have been saying this same bullshit for 2 years now. Get some new material will you. Everybody that is going to listen is informed, except you clowns ego’s. Check that safety Brandon

        • CWinOR says:

          Huh. You made a very interesting statement about yourself in your little tirade- namely, that you have SO little else going on in your life that you like (or possibly you’re a masochist as well) reading articles on sites that you have obvious contempt for? How odd. I have many prepper friends, and yet none of them or myself go to sites that we hold in such low esteem as you apparently do with Alt-Market or this site. Aren’t you an interesting critter?!

        • yourmotherwaswrong says:

          Ya Jay, I hear ya, and I feel your pain.

          Everyone here gets it. “The Plan”… We get it!

          SHTFplan runs this stuff (often) because it provokes an emotional response.

          It’s almost “tabloid” at this point.

          SHTFplan can’t get too deep in its reporting. If they do, they’ll lose “hits.”

          You see, morons are good for business!

          C’mon moderator… post it!

          • CWinOR says:

            AHHH….so YOU’RE the masochist! You’d no doubt claim you aren’t a troll- so logic has it the only other possible answer is… you’re a masochist(kind of a binary thing there)!

            Anybody else notice the number of trolls here has gone up by an order of magnitude in the last couple of months? I think it’s GREAT! It means the “right” people are getting annoyed that some people have taken the Red Pill….

            Flame-on beotches! I’ve got Nomex undies on!

          • Them Guys says:

            I’d think If Mac was so worried of loss of hits to this site? the First thing he’d do is closely monitor posts such as…Many of Mine! The fastest method to lose “some” folks is to allow not only all posts due to 1st ammend, but especially to allow Any post that Outs zionists agendas and relative related info.

          • Secundus says:

            @yourmotherwaswrong. I don’t know about mine but yours must have been major fukked up to have you.

          • A conversation in the Hitler days... says:

            I can just hear the conversation in the time of Hitler…

            Hey, have you heard that they built many camps?
            You believe all the crap…yeah right.
            Also, I heard that we have to turn in our guns to make the streets safer…
            That sound good.

            A conversion between two Jews back in the day.
            But we now know the end game.

            The way I see it… the DEMS are really commies.
            They are trying to disarm us.
            They are planning a currency crash…then income the UN “Peacekeepers”
            which will be Russian and Chinese troops.

            THESE FUCKERS WILL NEVER SEE HOME AGAIN! YOU CAN COUNT ON IT.
            The American people know things are fubar and we are being taken over
            by commies internally. So everyone is arming up.

            DEMS… you are pissing off a very large population of armed people.
            You sure you want to do that? Think about it.

            So stop trying to disarm us.

            • Them Guys says:

              Guess Who Built many “Camps”,Auswutz etc? Russian Jews did. 25 yrs Before anybody heard of hitler or nazis. Guess Who got Sent to them Camps begining in 1918? White Christian eastern europeans, whom bolshevik jewish Kommies sent there, guarded, and Murdered them white christians by the Tens of Millions. Before WWII! Before WWI was ended!

              As for russians and chinese kommies in usa? Perhaps, however the Real kommies decendants of the orig inventors of kommieisim are Here Now, Been here since 1880′s. And who needs chinese troops when they already have 25 Million African Savages chompin at their bit to attack and murder whiteys here as was done in 1918 russia etc.

              Just an FYI to consider.

      • Mountain Trekker says:

        E3,I’ve got no sparklers, but contrary to Mr. Smith’s statement I will be OPEN CARRYING MY 45ACP today as I do every day. I guess you can call it defiance but it is a show of my right to keep and bear arms. I’ll not be marching around as he said, but I will go about my bussiness as usual. I’ve heard all of the reasons that few, to none open carry. And truth beknown most won’t open carry because they feel selfconscious and fearful of drawing attention, so if that is the case, you are playing the game and staying in your comfort zone. Prepping is fine but this goes on and on and on store food,store water, store ammo, buy guns, and keep it quite. These are good ideas but what do they have to do with resisting the tyranny that faces our country? TPTB are trampling on our Constitution and Bill of Rights, not our right to buy groceries and water. Today is Independence Day, So Today show your Independence. Exercise your rights. I would bet you’ll still be able to stock up on all that other stuff tomorrow and probably next week. Trekker Out. As For Me And Mine, We’ll Open Carry!

      • possee says:

        From Zero Hedge
        William Banzai
        The Limerick King..

        Despite the political lies

        Surveillance is filling the skies

        Tyrannical fraud

        Replacing our God

        Becoming a nation of spies

        The Limerick King

        Happy 4th!

        possee

      • Grippentrog says:

        Or just store matches like a guy who wears big boy pants.

      • Yoda says:

        Not calling for mass upheavals, but if Obama is so in Awe and in love of the Arab spring and the overthrowing of Gov’ts is ok and he gets upset as his allies the MB have lost Morsi, why can’t you do the same thing in America, he sees the uprisings as an expression of people wanting freedom, then he should welcome his enemy (you) also rioting and protesting at Gov’t ruling by an iron fist and wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on His wife and childrens holidays
        May be just time to overthrow this tyrant you have sitting in the WH praying towards Mecca and giving billions to your enemies

        • ENFP says:

          Yoda,
          He will love it and is even prepared for it with all the ammo DHS has and now even foreign troops to defend his regime. It will give him the excuse he wants to declare martial law nation wide.

    2. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Obama Admin Plans To ‘Force’ Americans To Move Into Cities – “Redistributing” the Wealth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKDvXaGxhVA#at=98

      • Professor Higgins says:

        All of you conspiracy gun nuts will end up shooting each other. That’s what we call “thinning the herd”. But since it will the shallow end of the gene pool that gets eliminated, all the better for the rest of us. Perhaps then we can burn down all of those unsightly trailer parks since all of you will be dead. There may actually one or two of you that now realize that all of this ‘hype’ is to get you in-bred morons to acts rashly so we can finally take over.

        • slingshot says:

          In my best British accent.

          My Dear Professor Higgins. You do make a good point.
          Exactly what do you expect life to be like, when we are gone and you finally take over?

        • SmokinOkie says:

          Professor Higgins, nice to see you back here! And, as always your comments are welcome. We support free speech wholeheartedly! So much so, in fact, that I must say,
          ‘On behalf of my many friends here, if the “we” to whom you refer, includes the typical big-government-loving, nanny-state, progressive, socialist, sycophants as are represented by the majority of liberals, then you won’t be taking over shit! And, how dare you call my trailer park ‘unsightly’. We just put up brand new plastic pink flamingoes all around the place. This is a high class joint, I’ll have you know…

        • CWinOR says:

          That is TOO funny! What do you mean “when” you take over? You’ve hijacked most of the institutions of this (formerly) great country for the last three decades! And “you” have nearly achieved your goals as well- turn the masses into subservient mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging troglodytes that will swear allegiance to “your cause”, as long as they get their Big Mac’s and next weeks Dancing with The Stars. Your bubble is far too thick for me to burst it, but try to remember this advice: We’ve already seen how libtards like you cannibalize each other the minute things go sideways with “your plan”. Since the vast majority of people who actually PRODUCE something won’t trade you or your ilk their products for your promises of leprechauns riding unicorns that fart rainbows, remember when you go to cook your neighbor for dinner that cannibals have referred to our species as “long pig” for quite some time. So, for variety in your diet- cook your neighbor using your favorite pork recipes. Oh- the most tender one’s will probably have a pro obama bumper sticker. Since most of them probably have never done any real labor….they’re likely the most tender!

        • High Noon says:

          Professor Higgins:

          “The rain in Spain stays manly on the Plain”

        • John W. says:

          Your momma lives in a trailer park. Why would you want to burn down your mammas trailer. Who is this we you refer to? Not your chickenshit fellow traveler leftists.

        • My Dear Professor Higgins: I would love to grab you by your dear little neck and tell you something that I can’t tell you here. Since you want us to think of you as a Professor, I suspect that you just might be someone who never made it out of Jr. High School. As for trailer trash, I have lived in a trailer park and I’m not trash. Across the road from us in the park was a young fellow who’s father was the owner of a local logging company. This was his first starter home. He’s not trash and neither were we.

        • Shootit says:

          Higgie, I just heard that the Rothschilds have been called in to straighten out your government bank. RBS is having problems because of it’s toxic trailer park loans.

        • Anonymous says:

          Hit thumb up by accident…damn mouse gonna get shot!

        • To paint the mostly whole of people on here commenting with a brush labeled “conspiracy gun nuts” is, in and of itself, an admission of ignorance. It sounds to me like you’re into some kind of psychological denial knowing you can’t survive so, instead of asking us some questions and reading and learning, your normalcy bias has set it and your deride us instead.

          Some of us are more into guns than others. Some of us are more into the conspiracy aspect that others. (I’m heavy into both.) All of us realize that the gun component is going to become more important as is our ability to grow, get, store and properly feed ourselves when society as we know it now, changes. Do you not agree with this? If you do not, your education hasn’t done you much good. Either that, your you just refuse to face reality. (…and history!)

          Your statement, above, seems to smack of an attitude that has too much “book learning” and to little practical knowledge laced with a component of fear, that, in order to proceed you have to deny the evidence of many things. This is the attitude of someone who has always lived in a santitary environment never touched by crime, want or need.

          But, maybe you are right. It can’t happen here!

          Lets hope you’re right. But, even a wise man will hedge his bets if he has to bet.

    3. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      jews SUCK

      Both AMD & Intel chips will now be built in Israel

      http://investmentwatchblog.com/both-amd-intel-chips-will-now-be-built-in-israel/

      N.O. ;0p

      • Your Mother says:

        Why is it on every survivalist board, there are always dumbass Nazi wannabes?

        • Smokey says:

          They are a select group, when it hits the fan, who will be invited to the neighborhood security barbecue, and popped behind the ear with a .22.

        • Anonymous says:

          Catholics are planning on taking over JErrusalem. CHECK IT OUT on youtube. They are preaching that it is their duty to take it over and that it belongs to them. They are also saying thAt they will not kill protestants if they only worship in their homes, however if they try to worship outside their homes they will kill them also.

        • yourmotherwaswrong says:

          Your Mother says:

          “Why is it on every survivalist board, there are always dumbass Nazi wannabes?”

          This is a “survivalist board???” LOL!

          I think you better check the URL… ’cause you’re lost.

          And Nazi’s… there are a number of them on this site. They’re just too schizophrenic to understand it.

          National Socialism runs deep on this site my friend.

          OBTW, nice tag.

        • Them Guys says:

          Your Mother: You mean such as Ben Franklin by any chance? Perhaps since we are going into the July 4th Holiday time a Messg From Mr. Franklin is appropriate…It may also be seen as Prophetic to some when they consider posts by Prof Higgens or at least His pals.

          THE FRANKLIN PROPHECY
          Recorded by Charles Coteworth Pinckney
          Delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787

          (This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin,was made in a “CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION,”at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegatefrom South Carolina.)

          “I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration.The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.

          “In whatever country Jews have settled in any greatnumber, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.

          “For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.

          “If you do not exclude them from these United States,in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

          “If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for alltime, your children will curse you in your graves.

          “Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s,and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.”

          -Benjamin Franklin, 1787,at The Constitutional Convention, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

          Was Benny Franklin a “Nazi” too? or perhaps were issues we Face today by such Relentless Enemys, also Well Known back in Ben’s days.

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          • cellar spider says:

            I believe the text you are quoting is called the Franklin Prophecy….which is proven to be a forgery. It first appeared around 1935. I don’t believe Charles Pinckney’s journal has ever been found either. (This is the journal that allegedly has a copy of this diatribe). Thus, there is no current substantiation.

            Franklin Prophecy

            • Them Guys says:

              If you go by ADL as explainations or facts? I Pitty you.

              Check when and why ADL got started. Hint 1913 ring any Bells yet? Same Tribe fellow travlers as the FED RESERVE.

              After the last 100 yrs of more orgs like adl designed to keep jews and zionists lies going, as well as stuffle all facts about their nefarious evils etc…And You believe anything they tell you correct.

              PT Barnum was right one born every minit. Today theres zero excuses to still be brainwashed by zio jew crapola. Far too many sources now exist to find the proof.

              As far as ADL and aprox 300+ More such projew pro sirael pro zio orgs goes…Only One thing is to be believed acording to those orgs…Jews equal worlds largest bunch of Victims…Always victims of Gentiles, yet Never did they do Any wrongs. Never, got it? And if You do find a wrong jews did…And tell others of it…Then it means one thing only…Youareanziwhowantstokllsixmillionmorejews.

              I refuse to believe they were sooooooo persecuted for 4000 yrs, Booted from Every nation ever in, ended up known world wide as Nation wreckers, liars and Thieves, and yet Never did ANY wrongs nor ever deserve being Booted out etc…Seems You have zero problems believing the Unbelievable. Or are on ADL or SPLC Payrolls.

              PS: Forgerys are what? an EXACT COPY of the Original. Thats the Number One thing adl always claims…”Its a Forgery”!….A True Fake is their claims of SIX Million!

              • It is a little difficult to ferret out the moles, shills and traitors on this site. Those who are obviously out to lunch. There is a group of them and they hit the thumbs-down then post negative remarks about those who know Jewish history and who have spent time studying. These assholes are not ignorant but rather have an agenda and want to hide or obfuscate the truth. All you have to do is watch the posts for a week or two and you begin to see the pattern.

                The KKK boys…I lived in the south all my life and they are full of shit. The KKK is a marginal at best group of FBI, Mossad, JDL, SPLC, who entrap low IQ Americans into their bullshit setups. This is the enemy they create to further their ‘antisemitism’ ploy to show whitey is a moron and label you as an ‘enemy’ of Israel the frozen chosen.

                They are adept in using the Nazi ploy also…same as KKK just another way to slander those who know the truth. Wake up and ignore them.

                They present themselves as survivalists with all kinds of ballistics bullshit knowledge. For the most part they are emotionally immature, intellectually and spiritually bankrupt. Get a good weapon and be proficient is all you need.

                Biggest ploy is to attack you for some remark that is innocuous that places them in a superior position.

                But….you guys that post derogatory comments in a wholesale manner about the Jews without qualifying your comment, but are just vituperous and venemous all the time without educating others are JUST AS BAD AS THEY ARE. You are intellectually and spiritually shallow! Try to add links so others can be educated about Jewish Zionism. Smart people who discern can read between the lines. Those who make blanket statements all the time are trying to give those who know what they are saying a bad name. Be aware! You do not have to document everything but be smart about it. There is a knock down drag out war going on between the Sons of God and the Sons of Satan. Discern!

                Oh yeah they hate bible thumpers too. You will never see them discoursing about scripture, Jesus Christ and the Truth because there is no light in them.

                • troll killer says:

                  Ike

                  in no way shape or form would i ever put the SPLC in with the KKK they are such polar opposites it isn’t funny.

                  the ass clowns at the splc just want every one to be good little collectivists and spread the anti hate message.
                  while tearing down any one that doesn’t agree with them in every way. there is a few in the area i live in and there almost to a person members of the Dem party. gay or Bi. artists and street performers. that produce Crap and call it Art but its the most juvenile shit you will ever see ( made the mistake of asking what his SPLC button was for )

                  and when i told him i was a local militia member you should have heard the screams. high pitched and very girl like LOL.

                  as i have said in earlier posts i have known real KKK members in the north west and there not fun people to be around.

                • Them Guys says:

                  Wow! Canada Forgerys too!(is This too a so called Forgery?).

                  ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October30, 1937

                  “There is nothing else in Communism – a Jewish conspiracy to grab the whole world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world can find anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for themselves a “paradise on earth.”

                  Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and what it means.
                  It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is – a Jewish scheme invented by Jews – that it has progressed against all opposition to it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish dialecticians and publicists, refusing to fight the inventor, profiteer and string-puller. Because Christians and Gentiles have come to fear the Jews, fear the truth, and they are paralyzed by the paradoxical slogans shouted by the Jews.”

                  REV. KENNETH GOFF, in STILL ‘TIS OUR ANCIENT FOE, page 99 “The Frankenstein of Communism is the product of the Jewish mind, and was turned loose upon the world by the son of a Rabbi, Karl Marx, in the hopes of destroying Christian civilization – as well as others. The testimony given before the Senate of the United States which is take from the many pages of the Overman Report, reveals beyond a shadow of a doubt that Jewish bankers financed the Russian Revolution.”

                  H. H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937

                  “Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in 1918.”

                  HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Misspent, The Truth About His Real “Crime,” page 6

                  “Communism and Judaism are one and the same.”

                  H. H. BEAMISH, in a New York address, October 30 – November 1, 1937

                  “In 1848 the word “anti-Semitic” was invented by the Jews to prevent the use of the word “Jew.” The right word for them is “Jew” …
                  “I implore all of you to be accurate – call them Jews. There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat – that is your reward.”

                  It is truely Amazeing! I found These quoted “forgerys” along with well Over another Hundred such famous statements by many of the Worlds Most famous, and Recognizable persons. Henery Ford(the orig ford) Napolean(france) Charles Lindburg(famous usa Pilot) and More famous quotes than you can cry Forgery about!

                  Alas..I guess every one are Wrong and simply ignorant racists eh….Read them All then You decide.

                  www dot jewwatch dot com under heading “Gentile Publications” click Link on “Quotes on Jews by Famous People” Can they All be Forgeries?…NO!

                  PS: to All Baptist/Protestants/other similar denominations…be Sure to Read what the Father of Your Reformation, Luther, said in His long acurate quote. Good to Know what the Founder of Your denominations Taught and Said isn’t it?

                • Troll: I see the SPLC as a divisive organization designed by the Zionists Jews to divide and conquer America. They are as divisive as they come. The seemingly good things they do are a smokescreen for the evil ends they pursue. They are in the forefront of segregation, using the black citizens to divide America. There was nothing wrong with blacks wanting to to to black schools, which is why Tuskeegee University exits, and that is righteous. But to force busing and make blacks attend white schools created so much hate. SPLC want to appear as defenders of the poor and downtrodden. They work for the same things that the ADL does…hate crimes so they can forward their claims of ‘antisemitism’ and refuse to debate the truth. To bring black education up to the level of white would have been the proper thing to do but they did not. The Irish immigrants and Italians would have told you to go to hell if you forced it upon them…but they never would because it never served their purpose. Their aim, pure and simple, has always been to destroy white Protestant America.

                  I was born and raised Catholic…I searched out their bullshit and told them f#%$off. Those in pursuit of truth will not hold on to shit. You cannot pull the wool over the eyes of men searching for Truth…they will give their lives for it.

                  Unfortunately evil men think evil is the Truth which is putting black for white and vis-a-vis an abomination. The reason for placing bad for good is it serves our purposes, hypocricy and lying. The two will never mix like iron and clay…which destroys the structure or individual when they try to do it…will not survive.

        • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

          ‘ We all have our own lil’ problems !’

          ;0p pssszzt

          • Them Guys says:

            Ike: That website has actual photos and names, Both Birth “jewish” names as well as switched new names to Hide their true ID. In a section devoted to Outing, that litterally EVERY so called Nazi and nazi leader Furor(sp?) and hitler wannabe since at least as far back as 1939 IN the USA, has been Everytime Exposed to be a Jewish man Poseing as a “nazi” to stir hate and entice dupes into joining. A huge clue give away, is for example One man they profile at that site, ONLY had himself and 6-loyalist follower “nazis”, and an Old Bus full of hate signage on the sides and back of bus.

            Now WHY with 6 followers and ONE Old ratty bus for the Entire nazi operation, did ALL Major MSM back then make Certain that nazi org got so Highlited and did so many newspaper articles(tv not avail back then yet)?

            Try starting ANY other type “org” out of the Blue, maintain ONLY 6-Members total, and One bus for “group travel” and see How much Mainstream Media and newspaper or TV articles keep being presented to the gen public complaining of You and Your 6 man “org”.

            Yet They create such an org with jew heading and poseing as a nazi for real and its every week articles Galore!

            Untill folks Wise up that the “leader man” Is jewish!

            Nazis-KKK-Skinheads-Cristian identity-White Seperatists etc etc etc…Almost All have One major in Common…They are created and headed every time BY the Very Jew org or zionist org(adl-splc-ajc etc) who Then begins the Whinny complaints and calls of antisemites.

            Remember, besides Communisim, those same zio-bolshevik kommie type jews also Invented hegelian Dialectic’s methods as well as Sol Alinsky tactics(sol is jewish too).

            They Invented what today we call Liberalistic ideals-Trotsky himself Coined the word “Racist” to be used to Stiffle debate. That Only works for Them good if folks, mainly White folks are ignorant enough to PLAY that game with white-Guilt, also a kommie invention.

            As to weather or not Ben Franklin actually did say all that I posted?…ADL says “Forgery”…cannot find diray it is in etc…So its automaticly not orig from Franklin?

            A Forgery IS a Copy of the ORIG….BOTTOM Line is this.

            be it Real and True as stated wrote BY Ben franklin, OR not…By calling everything jews hate a forgery it acts to Halt debate or furtherance of it.

            It Also serves ADL so as to AVOID speaking of all it contains. Far as I am concerned even if it was Written Yesterday by some 5 yr old school kiddies…LOOK at each claim it makes. Compare that to what we see occureing Daily and at least for the last 50-100 yrs depending which exact “issue” it speaks of.

            Do that, as well as research truth about what that group(zios/jewish) are well Known for and what Many of They themselves Brag about constantly and NO Sane normal folks can deny every word in that Ben Franklin “chit Chat” IS and Has been exactly what has happened and BY That group he speaks of. Yes exceptions exist, not all jewish folks are like that. BUT that does Not change the Facts that MANY Are like that and That is what is so devestating to Us folks and Our Nation usa.

            I am far More suspect of anyone who quickly posts a reply with a Link to ASL-SPLC-Jewish newspapers-Israeli sources, so to Thwart the messg. YET they Never debate what is IN the messg. Thats because they Cant debate or negate facts or truth. And None of that group or its supporters will ever Repent and Change. Cant admit-Cant repent-Cant Change…..Oh well Read the BOOK…They Lose when the proverbial Smoke clears! Praise Jesus Christ for That soon Victory!(they cringe on reading or hearing His name! how else did so many like schumer and finestien get so damn ugly and wrinkled. From Too much evil and Cringing when Christ is mentioned).

            • Them Guys: what is link to site showing Nazi phoney skinhead leaders?

              Good post you have a lot of data in that bank of yours.

              • Them Guys says:

                IKE: It shows like a time line that began in 1939 I think it was. Goes on to list and Shows Photos with a Bio info on each new Neo Nazi org as it began. All were jews fake nazis. Once at Main website page, scroll Down 1/2 aprox LOOK on RIGHT side of page for header of “Jewish Hate Hoaxes” look at 2nd link Under that header. Click On “American Nazi Party”……Also may want to look at Christain Dispensationalist artiles too…Good info also.

                This website has every posible issue you can think of. Govnts-Kommies-MSM-Nazi hoax-etc etc.

                www dot jewwatch dot com should take you to main page/index. It takes a Hour just to look at all the links and seperate issues contained!

                Everybody else still learning…EARN YOUR PHD in Jewish/zionist issues at that site. Then you really are prepped for Battle with satans Own.

              • neetneet says:

                check out http://www.iamthewitness.com You can learn just about anything you need to know w/ resources too.

            • sixpack says:

              I was wondering, would there be a difference if

              “all banksters are jewish”, or

              “all jews are banksters”?

              Ponder the difference of those two statements for a minute. It’s more than just semantics, it’s what fuels an entire belief.

              Regardless of what you believe, this is nothing more than another “divide and conquer” tactic, designed to keep us focused on fighting COMMON PEOPLE instead of the CORPORATE ENTITIES who are responsible for our current dilemma.

              GLOBALISTS ARE DESTROYING US WITH SEMANTICS.

              Our issues are CORPORATE problems—greed, hate, death, theft, infiltration, spying…all at the CORPORATE level. Corporations ARE NOT PEOPLE, which is why CORPORATIONS can get away with more than any one group of PEOPLE can.

              People are bound by the law, whereas corporations are only bound by regulations…regulations the corporations made for themselves.

              In a way, Alex Jones is correct—there is a war on for your mind, and semantics is the weapon of choice.

              Only with semantics can one believe right is wrong and wrong is right. Just my 2 cents worth.

              • sixpack says:

                Does this make me “anti-semantic”????

                • Them Guys says:

                  SixPack: the best answer one can give you on your semantics post is…Go research the Issues At that website.

                  I posted a web address moments ago for Ike. above this post. I think after you read some of the info on all these Important issues we face, it will enlighten you more. If I recall right You Do know also about russia 1918 era and bolsheviks etc..That website has factual actual Numbers of gentiles killed, Photos with Birth Names and entire lists of the Orig kommies back then.

                  Example: While yes semantics can and do form folks opinions and at times Improperly, you cannot ignore that of aprox 503(close anyways from memory) TOP Kommie Rulers inner circle in Russia 1918…ONLY aprox 13-were Non jewish. So Yes Not all were jewish, but when it IS massive 98% brackets that WERE, one cannot ignore this.

                  Especially when one considers that they Only had amoung the entire POP of jewish persons out of 150 Million russian aprox. 2.4-2.6% Jewish POP…For so small of a Minority to have, out of Over 500+Top leaders, All BUT 13 were jewish well it speaks for itself now doesn’t it.

                  PS: Sixpack, Corps are Run by Humans. I believe that same website also has lists and bio-infos on Many if not all large international corps too. And they the corps have tons of reg folks such as Hasbaras who agree to work or Operate For the zionist Causes in any manner asked of them. America is a virtual CESS-POOL of such inocuous reg avg looking type folks, gentiles too!, who do Many “jobs” for their causes. That type info should also be there. If not ask me and I will provide a website for That also ok!

                  I genuinly hope this assists in your knowledge quest.

                • sixpack says:

                  Thanks Them Guys. I guess my first reflex is to shoot back at the point of flash, rather than blindly in that direction. Does that make sense?

                  “You miss the forest for the trees.”

                  …I thoroughly hate missing the mark.

        • Pierre Caron de Beaumarchais says:

          Calling someone who see’s jews as evil a Nazi is ridiculous. Hitler was 1/4 jew, and the National Socialist Workers Partei was financed by the Rothschilds. Why don’t you wake up?

        • neetneet says:

          NOT ALL ISRAEL, IS ISRAEL

          By Coach Dave Daubenmire
          March 21, 2013
          NewsWithViews.com

          I am about to touch the third rail of religion.

          I am not always right, but I am always willing to search for what is right…what is True. When I began my weekly commentary back in 2005 I made a vow that I would not shy away from controversial issues. It is the controversial ones that need our attention.

          Let the assault on my character commence. The accusations of anti-Semite will be lobbed at me like a hand-grenade. The name calling, and character-assassination will increase.

          But that is ok. I only seek Truth, and ask you to follow Ronald Reagan’s admonition to “trust, but verify.” I will provide links in which you can search the Truth for yourself. Please don’t take my word for it.

          That’s how we got in this mess…always taking someone else’s “word for it.” Often we have been taught things that were not true. We have not been like the Berean Christians who “searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

          I don’t know about you…but I want to know the truth. I am not a theologian and I did not go to seminary, but I can read and I can think. Take it with a grain of salt. But check it out first.

          So here goes. Say a prayer for me.

          “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. -Romans 9

          For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel…that verse has always bothered me…what did Paul mean by that? (For the sake of this explanation Israelite and Jew are synonymous.)

          Being an Israelite is not like being an American. America is a melting pot…an amalgamation of a variety of different ethnicities. Israel is different. An Israelite is an Israelite by birth…by bloodline. A multitude of ethnicities make up Americans, but only bloodline-from-birth can make one a true Israelite.

          One can convert to Judaism, as a religion, but can never be a true Jew without the bloodline. In a unique way, being an Israelite is both a religion and a race. One is born Jewish (Israel) but a Gentile can convert to Judaism. The two are not synonymous. Sammy Davis Jr. converted to Judaism as a black man. No one would argue that his bloodline was Israelite. He didn’t lose his dark skin.

          It is the bloodline that is critical in Judaism…not the conversion to a religion.

          It is what Paul was referring to in his statement regarding Israel. Here comes the shocker.

          Not all Jews are bloodline Jews. In fact, most of those who call themselves Jews are family-converts to Judaism. They are not Jewish by bloodline.

          John the Revelator “amens” this fact in Revelation 2:9 “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”

          Which say they are Jews and are not…once again we see the delineation between bloodline Jews and converted Jews. Not all Israel is Israel…which say they are Jews and are not…

          It seems we are warned about someone masquerading as “God’s chosen people.”

          Let me open your eyes a bit to the Khazar Jews and their descendants the Ashkenazi Jews. Never heard of them? Neither had I until I began studying…like my Berean buddies before me. Here is a good link to explain the Khazars. Here is a good link to explain Ashkenazi Judaism.

          In a nutshell, according to some historical accounts, the entire nation of Khazar converted to Judaism as a national religion under the edict of the King in the eighth century. The “religious” conversion of this tiny nation resulted in the eventual spreading of “Judaism” across Eastern Europe and eventually the world. But the descendants of these “Khazar Jews” were not bloodline Jews…Jews by birth…but converted Jews.

          Remember, it is the bloodline that is important. It is the pure bloodline that leads to a Savior…not a conversion to a religion. Much of the world is populated with “religious” Jews who are not bloodline Jews. Hence, not all Jews are Jews.

          Why is this so important, you may ask? Because there is so much confusion as to whom the Jews are and who is God’s chosen people. One thing is certain…many who call themselves Jews today are not bloodline Jews…and henceforth, not “heirs of the promise.”

          Have you ever heard of the Talmud? The Talmud is the “Holy Book” that many of the world’s “Jews” use as their life’s roadmap. Christian’s believe that all Jews follow the “Torah” which is the first five books of the Old Testament. Ashkenazi Jews do not completely follow the Torah, but rather, are faithful to the Talmud.

          Adherents to the Talmud do not honor Jesus or His followers. Some estimates say that 80% of the world’s Jewish population are adherents to Ashkenazi Judaism.

          Most people are afraid to speak out on these issues because the Southern Poverty law Center (SPLC) is the government-approved expert on “hate groups.” The SPLC is responsible for many of the assaults on America’s Christian heritage through litigation in the courts. According to this website many “Ashkenazi Jews” are active in the SPLC, and their twin brother the ACLU.

          Facts are facts folks. I wonder how many American pastors have any understanding at all of the many different sects of Judaism. Have you noticed how it is open season on Christianity and Christian values in America, while the mere mention of other ethnic-groups, especially non-bloodline Jews, is immediately labeled hate speech or anti-Semitic? I have to ask why the Jews and Jewish officials are above criticism.

          What is that about?

          Folks, here is the Truth. It was the “tradition of the elders” that Jesus railed against when dealing directly with the Pharisees in Mathew 15:1. “Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders?”

          The “tradition of the elders” was the religious tradition that the Pharisees demanded all Jews follow. They placed their tradition above the law of God. It was this religious system that Jesus came to destroy. It is this same “tradition of the elders” that most Ashkenazi Jews still follow today.

          They do not strictly follow the teachings of God as spelled out in the Torah. They follow the teachings of the Rabbinical Law. They are not descendants of Abraham by birth. They are not bloodline Jews. Their ancestors were converts to the “religion of the elders.”

          I have said enough. More learned men than me have done great research on the topic. Search it out for yourself. I guarantee you that most pastors haven’t researched it.

          America is being destroyed from within. We are yielding power to a group of people who do not deserve our trust. The Name of Jesus is under assault in our nation.

          Not all Caucasians are good people. Not all Arabs are good people. Not all Asians are good people. Not all Africans are good people.

          Why do we think that all Jews are good people? Why are they above criticism? Many Christian beliefs are outside the acceptance of most forms of Judaism.

          Since we were all born outside the family of God there is only one way that we can become official members of His family…and that is through adoption…united by His bloodline.

          1 John 2:22-23, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

          John warned us of those “who say they are Jews but are not.” Paul told us that “not all Israel is Israel.” Search it out for yourself.

          We’d do well to heed their admonition. My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge…

          Check us out today: http://www.newswithviews.tv

          WARNING. NewsWithViews.tv may be change the way you think.

          © 2013 Dave Daubenmire – All Rights Reserved

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          In 1999 Coach Daubenmire was sued by the ACLU for praying with his teams while coaching high school in Ohio. He now spends his energy fighting for Christian principles in the public domain.

          E-Mail: coach@ptsalt.com

          • Them Guys says:

            neetneet: Good Post there.IE: Coach Dave info etc.

            I can’t say for certain,if his article was a result of this, But.. exactly 7-days before Coach Dave wrote that newswithviews article…I emailed Him This pertinant info about “Khazers” DNA-PROOF! I will post it here for you and others who may be interested/Concerned of the Truths Coach Dave wrote of etc.

            Because of DNA science, historians and anthropologists have been able to find missing links and to unravel the mysteries of race and ethnology.

            In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim, of Hebrew University, a biologist, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood. Not only that but Oppenheim discovered that the Palestinians—the very people whom the Jews had been persecuting and ejecting from Israel’s land since 1948—had more Israelite blood than did the Jews. In sum, the vast majority of the Jews were not Jews; some of the Palestinians were. Some of the Palestinians even had a DNA chromosome which established that they were “Cohens”—workers at the ancient Temple and synagogues of the Jews.

            The Definitive DNA Study
            Now comes the ultimate, definitive DNA study, by Dr. Eran Elhaik and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. Entitled, The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses, and published by the Oxford Journal on behalf of the Society for Molecular Biology and Evolution, the study confirms Oppenheim’s research and the many scholarly books.

            Dr. Elhaik and the prestigious Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine conclude in their report: “The Khazarian Hypothesis suggests that Eastern European Jews descended from the Khazars, an amalgam of Turkic clans that settled the Caucasus in the early centuries CE and Converted to Judaism in the eighth century…Following the collapse of their empire, the Judeo-Khazars fled to Eastern Europe. The rise of European Jewry is therefore explained by the contribution of the Judeo-Khazars.”

            Who Can Argue With DNA Science?
            So DNA science has proven that the findings of many historians and anthropologists is correct. The “Jews” of Israel are not Abraham’s descendants but, instead, come from the subjects of King Bulan of Khazaria.

            The newest DNA science finding is from Dr. Eran Elhaik (“a Jew”) and associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine. In research accepted December 5, 2012 and published by the Oxford University Press on behalf of the Society of Molecular Biology and Evolution, it was found that the “Khazarian Hypothesis” is scientifically correct. Read the above Again! DNA-PROOF of “FAKE-JEWS”!

            What exactly is the “Khazarian Hypothesis?” Simply stated, it holds that the Jewry genome is a mosaic of ancestries which rise primarily out of the Khazars.

            Jews are Khazars, not Israelites.ATTEN!”Jewdeo-Christians”

            The “Jews” of America, Europe, and Israel are descendants not of Father Abraham but of King Bulan and the people of ancient Khazaria. Khazaria was an amalgam of Turkic clans who once lived in the Caucasus (Southern Russia) in the early centuries CE. These Turkic peoples were pagans who converted to Judaism in the eighth century. As converts, they called themselves “Jews,” but none of their blood comes from Israel.(And are a Majority of usa-Commies here In usa-Dems-neocons-NY-Chicago, kommies etc!)

            Later, the “Jews” (Khazars) emigrated, settling in Russia, Hungary, Poland, Germany, and elsewhere in Europe. As “Jews,” the Khazars then left the European nations in 1948 and settled the fledgling, new nation of Israel.(They Stole it is more like it)

            The people of Israel are not the seed, nor the ancestors, of Abraham. They call themselves “Jews,” but in fact, DNA science shows them to be Khazars. They say they are “Jew,” but they are not.

            “There are no blood or family connections among the Jews,” said Dr. Elhaik in an interview with Haaretz, Israel’s daily newspaper. “The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. Their genome is largely Khazar.” (most experts today agree 98% are Khazer or other “mixed” Morano etc jews)

            Thus, when Prime Minister Netanyahu says, “God gave this land to our Israelite forefathers,” he is absolutely wrong. There are no Israelite forefathers of today’s “Jews.” When today’s “Jews” say they should possess the land because they are Israelites and are the seed of Abraham, they are mistaken.(not if They Know this info! Then they are Liars-Like Christ called them,John ch 8 vs 44)

            The “Jews” are in Israel for one reason and one reason only: Because the United States, in 1948, recognized the nation of “Israel” and has since funded and protected it. God’s Word has nothing to do with it.

            God’s Word, the Holy Bible, prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would, the Bible told us, persecute their enemies and especially the Christians. But God would have his revenge:

            EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS!! PAY ATTENTION HERE!!!<<<<<<<

            I ask my evangelical Christian friends: What will you do now? Will you heed what God said, in Revelation 2 and 3, about “them which say they are Jews and are not?” Will you accept modern DNA science as legitimate and valuable in proving the truth of God’s Word?

            Or will you, dear Christian friend, walk right on by, dismissing what both God and science have informed you?

            God said that the seed of Abraham would inherit the land. Therefore, we must—absolutely must—in light of the DNA evidence, ask ourselves: Where, and who are the seed of Abraham?

            We know that Netanyahu and the people who now inhabit Israel have no claim to the land. They are interlopers, false pretenders. But there is a true and legitimate Chosen People of God. In fact, the scriptures had it right all along. The answer is found in Galatians 3:29. Read it for yourself:

            “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”

            So, if you belong to Jesus our Lord, you are “Abraham’s seed,” regardless of your physical race. You are overcomers, and Revelation 21:7 promises, “He that overcometh shall inherit all things.” This is the great secret that every true Christian knows.

            God is not a racist. The Great Commission extends to every race and ethnicity. We who love Jesus are His Chosen People, and we have the promise first given to Abraham way back in Genesis.

            TWO Related Articles this Is From are At website of..

            This is compiled from Both(two) articles at website of texemarrs dot com PS, if unable to find the articles I Do have Direct Links..I didn't include them here as it holds up post in moderation. If you need actual links ask me. Them Guys

      • California Resident says:

        @ 3n3my of th3 Stat3

        The “Jewz suck” mentality is pure 100% Obamafascism at its best.

        You need to get a serious clue before you hurt yourself.

        • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

          A Conquered People – Operation Paul Revere InfoWars.com Contest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVSluJbVSDI#at=12

          • Alex Jones is a Zionist shill. Heard him yesterday when a Boeing E4B was doing touch and goes in Austin…this guy went on a 45 minute rant…I believe he almost wet his pants. He is a sensationalist and never gets to the bottom of Truth…he obfuscates it. Oh, as you remember the Arabs run Hollywood and Alex can prove it. What a joke!

        • sixpack says:

          Israel is another surveillance/techno state. Unlike the Chinese, Israel will have no problem building backdoors into their CPUs, at the American govt request.

          Don’t let “political correctness” cloud your judgment. I know NinaO spouts a lot of anti-jew views that I often disagree with, but this time he is probably right. Do some research on this subject…as a “techie” I already have. THIS IS NOT A “JEW THING”, it’s a “global elitist thing”.

          Israel WILL further U.S WORLD surveillance goals if they start making the chips…BET ON IT.

          • California Resident says:

            I get tired of the “IT’S THE JEWZ” cop out.

            Obama isn’t a Jew. Bush isn’t a Jew. Clinton isn’t a Jew.

            Soros is a Jew, though. But Soros is a traitor to his own race.

            ….but I digress.

            • yental says:

              You need to do some SERIOUS RESEARCH before you hurt yourself. “Jewz” especially the “Zionist variety” are pulling the strings of ALL OF OUR CURRENT PUPPETS, whether in the White House, Congress, Supremely ignorant court, and last but certainly not least…THE ENTIRE LAME-STREAM-MEDIA.

              You are either completely ignorant of TPTB, or intentionally operating as “extremely low level co-intel”.

              “Ignorance” can be fixed…Stupid cannot.

              • Them Guys says:

                Calif,Resident: Perhaps iy Is You and a few Others here need to do some Serious Research. Read my BEN Franklin Post a few replies Above This one. Then STUDY alot MORE at the website it came from which I listed.

                All Yental says, and quite a bit More such as Actual Numbers of Hundreds of Millions murdered By and the real truthfull Names etc of Who was/Is responsible.

                Who also are the Inventors of Communisim. That webiste has enough accurate factual Info related to the jewish issues and zionist issues to Keep one busy Reading and LEARNING for the Next several Decades!

                OR simply Blow off such Valid info facts and Truths, and Keep believing MSM-Hollywood-Most Preachers today…Which incidentally are all Owned-Bribed-Controled-In Bed with…The same Culprits. Do You get it Yet? You Will If you Research it!!

            • ENFP says:

              A lot of them are traitors to their “race” if there really is such a thing as a Jewish race. What they are really traitors to is their God, the ones behind the New World Order which is the final Beast Empire prophesied in the Book of Daniel. But I still insist that those who practice the Jewish religion and many citizens of Israel are not the enemy. We shouldn’t make the issue to be about any race or ethnic group. It is about corporations and banks.

          • howdy- doody says:

            you make some good points. To me, I just want to be aware of what’s going on. I really don’t care what you call the people who are running the show. I just want to ruin their day. If we can change the direction that we are headed as a nation, I’ll worry about what to call them some other time. Distraction come in many forms. If a bully is picking on you, and kicking your ass everyday, does it really make any difference what color or race he is. You just want to put an end to the problem. That is the task we have.

            • Them Guys says:

              howdy-doody: Question…If some woman is Raped and savaged, should she Ignore what “race” or “name” the rapist is or goes by when she call 911 to report it? And if she follows Your advise should she expect the rapist will be found?

              BULLY…Ok say you know of a bully type guy, you tell folks be carefull of the Bully guy. If a person asks You to name him if his name is known…By Your standard of PC correctness or avoidence of racial issues etc, how do You describe an answer and Not mention Race or Names.

              What you call distractions, are really PC designed to keep us from nameing names or races or religious issues etc. Continuance of such pc obedience, Is why They are winning and We are Loseing at every turn.

              It is High time to remove the kid gloves, and ignore whinny crys of “I was Offended by what that white man said”…And tell it as it Is. Based upon Facts and Truths. Any who are offended by such tactics shall Out themselves as either the real enemys, or Ignorant foolish folks falling for that PC type garbage designed to destroy white folks. Because Nobody and NO other nations can ever destroy america, unless they First destroy or exterminate the White backbone of who created and Built this nation we call the usa.

              If you give even minimal thought to this it will prove correct. Ask yourself what “IF”?

              What if as an experiment You were able to cause all blacks to move out of the usa?…Would That so weaken it and ripen it for final takeover?…NO.

              What if all zionists etc were removed? same answer NO.

              remove every Illeagle mexican as well as all other races here illeagly? same again NO.

              Now what if you could remove every single white folk? Who even still Today are aprox 70% of usa…BINGO!

              Remove or destroy white americans and most any group of kommies or other nation can takeover in a Flash.

              Thats what Prof Higgens does not get it about. Yes his pals could overtake america AFTER they exterminate whiteys. So then whats Left?..A bunch of warring savage tribes,1/2 or More of which are Unskilled Illerates, who never created or invented or built a damn thing. And who Will Loot and Burn down america in its entirety within 2 yrs or Less. Probobly Less. That can Never happen as long as america Remains a white majority of decendants of the Orig Founders. Forget PC garbage tactics. When necessary, Name names and races and rejct whinny crys of Raaaayyyiiissss!

      • CWinOR says:

        Ok- let’s say this is true….SO WHAT?! Intel has plants all over the place! Just in Oregon alone- they have SEVEN CAMPUSES (as in SEVERAL buildings) and each campus is several tens of acres! So they’re going to add another fab plant in Israel- bringing the total to two. Whoopee.

      • Che's Little Brother says:

        3n3my of the… You’re the first one they’ll come for because a serious nut case like you has got have a lot of guns and other preps just waiting for confiscation! They’ll take your stuff and you’ll disappear down a deep dark hole never to been seen or heard from again. I’d normally say to take your meds and tone it down a notch or two but TPTB already know who you are and where you live.

        • troll killer says:

          Che’s little brother

          i am with you brother he is a serious nut job and needs to be put away in a hospital or nut house some place.

          kind of makes me wish i kept my ties with certain people i knew long time ago.

          • sixpack says:

            Remember that it seems like they are after the intelligent, self-sufficient people who can think on their feet first, WE are the threats to their takeover. Those of us who can actually mount a defensive/offensive game that might succeed are the bigger threat because we CAN think clearly.

            They already know what to do with the career criminals and nut jobs. They already have them by the twins.

        • Anonymous says:

          morons

          enjoy your lives under jew banker usury – goyim gentile indentured tax debt slavery

          the writing is on the wall

          its time to look for the escape hatch to the escape pod from ZOG AMERIKA and the ZIONIST JEWS .

          THERE ARE BETTER COUNTRIES OUT THERE WITH BETTER PEOPLE .

          AMERICA IS A LIE

          ITS TIME TO FIND A NEW COUNTRY TO CALL HOME .

          ;0p

          • troll killer says:

            Anonymous says:

            yup you better get out while you can

            because us JEWS are here for your children and women

            Goy women love us Jews

            why don’t you move to south Africa i hear there getting apartheid ready for a return

            and get the HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY !!!

            ( and yes i really am a jew )

            • Troll: what the hell is your point? Are posting under another name then answering your own posts so you can disrupt the pond? Sure looks like it to me. If you truly are Jewish why don’t to post some intelligent responses so others can truly see where you are coming from. After reading this post I’m ready to write you off permanently. Your sarcasm is lost on me!

              • Them Guys says:

                Troll killer hates facts on jew issues. Calls gentiles racist or antisemitic. But then what does Troll K call OUR women folk? “GOY” aka short for Goyim.

                Why does this matter? I will Tell you. Because Goy or Goyim is a word invented BY and Used By jews as a Derogatory, Defamation lable. The Hebrew or is it yiddish? meaning of it is “Herd Animals” or “Cattle” which Is what their talmmud teaches jews to think gentiles really are ie:…Gentiles are Nothing more than animals with OUT a Soul from God. Therefore jews believe since They have a soul from god, and gentiles do not…That means god created gentiles aka Goyim cattle herd animals to Serve and be enslaved BY jews. Talmud teaches, the Only reason god made goyim cattle humans able to Speak languages fluently, is so they can Better Serve their Jewish Masters!

                Troll Killer now can agree in Honesty(rare) Or simply call me a hater or antisemitic and totally Avoid a real answer.

                IMHO: I really Really would Love to see those Vast numbers of jewish as well as african black folks we keep hearing about, that are Not like the “Bad” ones, Begin to Speak Out, to OUT the evils of Zionisim etc.

                Why is it so far almost the Only folks who aint shy of Outing their Own racial members when they do wrongs or evils happens to be Us whiteys?

                Most whites are the First ones to Out bad or evil fellow whites. We all see and Hear it all the time on TV-MSM-Movies-Public bars etc general public areas etc…Everywheres whites Never hesitate to OUT fellow whites when warrented.

                So if there really are so many ,many, many “good” in the Race called jewish?…When are They too going to follow suit or Copy whites and do Likewise about Their racial bad guys?

                I myself cannot Think of a better, Fatser method to clear things up Nationwide so all us Good folks Can come together as One group as so many here desire. Not to mention if jewish folks are really “persecuted” with NO fault by them or their actions etc?…What fatser way to end that too than for “good” jews to Begin Outing Bad ones. Makes perfect sense to me. I doubt it will occure. It should though. (yes I am well aware of the anti-zionist jew groups, however as per adl-splc sources, the grand total of anti-zionist jewish in usa numbers barely 8,000 Total, that breaks down to barely one in every Thousand jews are against zionists! Could use alot More no.)

          • Anonymous: You are a jerk-off get the hell out of America before we find you! Whoever you are bone head. Nothing sinks into that fat head of yours. You add nothing to any discussion but Chaos…

      • Someone is hitting your comment with thumbs down…GuessssWhoooo!!!! Others make same comment but you are todays target…

        Zionist Talmudic Cabalistic Jews suck…but Jews who resist them are AOK like Neturei Karta or Jews for the Preservation of Firearms in America (as long they are Zionists). I am guilty of the ‘all Jews did it’ too when I get heated but that is emotional and not intellectual. Emotional gets us in trouble. If they love the Israel created from lies they are assholes no matter if they are Jew or Gentile.

        My 2 cents…

      • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

        Army Veteran & Cop Aaron Weiss Gives The Best 2nd Amendment Speech Ever – Dutchess County – NY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uamEo4I2qPc#at=62

      • John W. says:

        An you are a moron. How many screen names do you have anyway?

    4. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      my moron neighbors are setting off fireworks all week celebrating their …

      NEW JEW ORDER – TAX DEBT ENSLAVEMENT – BY THE ZOG AMERIKA FEDGOV AND NWO GLOBALIST BANKERS

      ZOG AMERIKA – WHAT A IDIOCRATIC SHEEITHOLE

      * it’s time to seriously plan prepare a bug-out exPatriot exit strategy to a more intelligent country like … Iceland .

      N.O. ;0p

      • AZ PREPPER says:

        Then , what the HELL are you waiting for? GET OUT!!!!!!

        • troll killer says:

          AZ Prepper

          Because he or she ( what kind of man is named Nina ?)
          is nothing but an all talk spazz. who thinks cutting and pasting other peoples work is getting the Truth out.

          i have said in the past its idiots like this that make other Non prepper types view us as nut jobs and loonies. Nina sees jews behind everything.

          nothing but a classless idiot who one day is gong to actually meet with some real bad ass KKK types and find out just what a real ass kicking is.
          i know some actual KKK folks and they don’t take crap heads like this lightly and I have actually seen the end result of there handy work ( some one else mouthed off to one of them ) many months eating soft foods is no way to live.

          Troll killer

        • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

          ‘WELCOME TO THE JEW.S.A.!’ ;0p

          i gotta wait till i hit THAT MAGIC AGE OF ’50′ a few more years … THEN I QUALIFY AS TAX EXEMPT exPATRIOT ‘RETIRED’ status .

          THEN i’m gone like the wind IN MY BOAT to any country that

          has AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE , NO GLOBAL CENTRAL BANK , NO JEWS , NO HOMO’S AND NO FREEMASONS .

          its the exPATRIOT PIRATE LIFE FOR ME ;0p

          RIGHT NOW TOP CHOICE OF MY LIST IS -

          ICELAND

          i can definitely make that on my boat ;0p

          the time between now and then is gravy , to prepare to leave ZOG AMERIKA permanently to the JEWS HOMO’S DYKE’S AND FREEMASONS .

          N.O. ;0p

          • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

            MORGELLONS U.S. Patent #, Creators’ Names DISCLOSED https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB5O9TB9SQc

          • Jim in Va. says:

            Here is one mason that will be glad to see you go. If you go now I’ll take up a collection to buy you a ticket. Grass ain’t always greener on the other side of the fence. Just hope enemy of the State ,the next country probably won’t want to hear your crap either.

            • Facebook Page says:

              I will foot the whole bill and setup cost for 3 months anywhere in the world he is allowed to go.

            • AZ PREPPER says:

              I’ll pitch in

            • dad from Texas says:

              Brother Jim make that two. Life would be so goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood. But only a buss pass south.

              • Yes, you brother masons…I’ve always wondered why you think that you can blacklist people over sins that some of you also commit. There is one verse from the Bible that has kept me going over the years, “vengeance is mine saith the Lord. I will repay.” I guess this is telling us that if we trust in God, He has promised us that we don’t have to get our own vengeance. He will do it for us. He has ways that we can’t legally use.

            • troll killer says:

              Jim in Va

              let us know if you want to set up a fund at a bank so we can collect money to help poor Nina get out of the usa

              as i said above what kind of man ? is named Nina unless its a self loathing cross dresser or a closet gay tranny. do you work the streets much Nina ??

              claims to have worked with abused military women maybe he she or it was the abuser !!. nothing like a self loathing dyke to help abused women. why is it gays and feminists some how get liberal degrees and move into the social services field as a career.

              Nina you total jack ass you will never get away from Homos. and if you think iceland is free from it good F&%$ing luck. i guarantee you will suck on the end of a gun within 6 months but then that would be good for us.
              my hope is that you some how screw up and move into the most gay part of some town and be unable to ever move out.

              you must really hate yourself 3n3my of th3 stat3 to want to vent this much pent up anger everyday

              and since you obviously hate America then the day you leave permanently will not come too soon here for us on this site.

              you must have been a real piece of work as a child.

              • troll killer…I support everyone’s right to freedom of speech and if you had ever bothered to read Nina’s info, you might find that many articles that Nina highlights are right on the mark. I don’t always agree with him, but he has the right to speak it and if you and your fellow supporters have a problem with that, then maybe you should go! Trying to suppress freedom of speech is “the problem” and apparently, while you’re at it, you may want to read the constitution, which gives us that right! You’re a fool….

          • Archivist says:

            Why don’t you just go right on to Iceland?

            “Iceland is proud to have the worlds first openly lesbian prime minister and to show support in action one third of the population shows up for Reykjavík Gay Pride …” [from rainbowreykjavik(dot)com]

            Sounds like a perfect place for someone to get away from “HOMO’S DYKE’S” as you say you wish. Didn’t quite do enough research, did you?

      • John W. says:

        GFY moron. All you ever do is spew irrational Jew hatred. Who cares what a zit like you thinks. Can you even form a coherent thought?

      • Leonard M. Urban says:

        I’d offer to help you move, but I hear you get your shit packed regularly…

      • troll killer says:

        3n3my of th3 stat3

        south Africa is nice move there learn German or Afrikaner.

    5. PO'd Patriot says:

      Well I don’t like the word “Retreat” in retreat location and I don’t have any intentions on falling back. I plan on staying right where I am and make this my “Alamo”. Best to you all.

      • WhyDieLost says:

        A word to the wiser is sufficient! General George S. Patton said, “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.” There is no dishonor in retreating to regroup and live to fight another day…to make the other guy die for his cause so you can live on to make things right for future generations. To pridefully sacrifice one’s life for the sake of pride or one’s image of his masculinity is of no use to anyone but the prideful and it accomplishes nothing but the cessation of a prideful life. One last point, all those in the Alamo were killed and were of no use any longer.

        • DRD5508 says:

          “all those in the Alamo were killed and were of no use any longer.” True, but they did make the ultimate sacrifice so that others had time to regroup. It stalled Santa Ana’s army for a while. Each Alamo tptb have to engage the more likely within their ranks, others will fight on the right side of freedom.

        • PO'd Patriot says:

          WDL, of course they all died. But that doesn’t guarantee it would happen to me.

          Stonewall Jackson said it best,” My religious belief teaches me to feel safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to always be ready, no matter when it may overtake me.”

          • PO’d Patriot, I like that, thanks.

          • WhyDieLost says:

            PO’d, of course it doesn’t guarantee that it would happen to you. God does not always wish a warrior to die. God has warned many a warrior not to do something and the warrior disobeys God’s will and the warrior dies. How sure are you that God would want you to stay in your Alamo? To what end and purpose would be the demise of your life?

            You quote Stonewall Jackson’s belief as a guide to your action to remain in your Alamo…I doubt Jackson would have died to save his pride. Jackson would have retreated and re-evaluated his situation and attacked again. Jackson was telling of his courage towards dying and not of his battlefield strategies.

            Maybe Jackson felt towards God like he said, but, I don’t believe he would have believed God would have told him to remain in an “Alamo.” Many a Hebrew died because they disobeyed God. Many of their battles were lost because they didn’t heed God’s command to them. But, perhaps you are correct and God is telling you to remain in your “Alamo,” shoot your last bullet and maybe die. I don’t know. One thing is for sure, you are no match for the Military. You may certainly put up a good fight and take many of the enemy down before you go. For me, I prefer to think that God would want me to live and take appropriate action to fight another day. No offense is meant in any of what I have said…purely discussion.

        • Butterknife says:

          The deaths of the men at the Alamo did serve a purpose, Texas was flooded by Volunteers, money and arms after the rest of the Nation learned of there fate. Not to mention Santa Anna took upwards of 400 – 700 casualties. Or nearly a third of the forces Santa Anna had on hand est. 1500, with a total of 3000 troops in theatre, that is almost 20% of his forces ,and there is also the matter of the 2 weeks it took for the Alamo to fall.
          There is also one other result of the Alamo, and that has to do with the American psyche and our beliefs.
          With respect

      • Wombat says:

        Are you non-ambulatory? I ask only because this “die in place” mentality is usually the crutch of people too lazy to keep fighting beyond their couch.

        A good soldier doesn’t weld his ass to one fox-hole.

        • Ramadiron says:

          Wombat
          “A good soldier doesn’t weld his ass to one fox-hole.” I agree but most americans are not soldiers. And the reason many would fight and die has or is inside 4 walls and has a roof. I love to live but I am not doing it as a refugee.
          Remember you can run but you will only die tired! I pick where I and how I go. And they can never take that from me.
          Ramadiron out.

        • sixpack says:

          @Wombat—I am disabled and cannot bug out. While I have not resigned myself to “die in place”, I have accepted the fact that it is a possibility…a possibility that will not be free for them.

          I CAN put up a fight and I’m not going down without one.

          I pray it doesn’t come to that, but if it does, then it will be on my terms—not theirs.

          Thumb me down for exercising my final choice as a free individual if you must, but no one can take that away from me…but me.

        • PO'd Patriot says:

          Wombat, I said I wouldn’t retreat or leave. I never said that I wouldn’t move forward or press them. Anyone can question my resolve anytime they like. I really don’t give a shit. Just stay out of my fucking way if you come around.

          • Wombat says:

            ‘Twas an honest question. I’m sure you all know the type. An otherwise ablebodied patriot turned couch potato who confuses bravery for sloth.

            In the spirit of the article I’d like to challenge such people to defy death for as long as possible. While Dorner was alive he was a Titan, terrifying the powers that be. When he was reported dead they slept soundly. Give them no victory. Make them lay awake at night. Wear them down, even if it means living in the sewers while they sweat in fear or your next move. We all die sooner or later, but try to get as much mileage as you possibly can :)

      • DRD5508 says:

        Mr. Smith, your article sounds like a pretty good speech. When you get to the challenges (I understand and agree with most) you forget that we are a very fractured society. As with what PO’d states, he’ll make his Alamo stand and if I haven’t made it out in time, I’ll be helping him defend his castle. I say this because many won’t be able to retreat. I have my bug out locale but am also aware that I won’t be able to turn my back on those in need. The zombie script hollywood/gov’t puts out won’t be the populace as much as the horde will be gov’t agencies with weapons: i.e. LEOs, SS office, IRS agents, etc..
        Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness; if PO’d and others can’t have it and are assaulted to keep them from it, then all the retreat does is give me and others a few more days before it gets to me. We all would like to chose when and where to fight our battles but honor and duty call when I see the battle next door.
        PO’d, I’d like to bug out but have come to the realization that I’d weaken your defense and others if I did. And personally, knowing that you’d be attacked for your freedoms mine would be hollow if I didn’t stand with you in your time of need. I respect your stand.
        The whole idea of bugging out is a fantasy. Prep yes. Have an alternate locale, agree. But to leave the weak to the horde is enhuman. Agree to warn people and if the SHTF while I’m at my retreat, then I’ll prepare to engage the human demons in the area I’ll be at. It will be impossible to return once away from the city; it’ll be barricaded, no one in or out.

        • Kulafarmer says:

          I can see bugging out if you live in a flood zone and flooding is imminent, or a hurricaine, or something like that where you have no choice, but to bug out because the SHTF, like has been stated MANY times before, you are in most cases becoming a refugee,,, IF you have a retreat, great, but its really either your home, in a different location than where you used to live, or a second home of sorts, or hunting cabin, thats great, but most wont have that luxury and they will become refugees.
          I plan on staying put, if I have to leave my home its because I just had a gunfight and won and dont want to be here when the reenforcements show up, and Im going guerilla, That would be the only reason, pretty unlikely though, so I will die defending my home and family rather than become a refugee. I am not alone, we have a LOT of fairly self reliant minded neighbors, even if at the moment they appear to be part of the Costco wallmart crowd, they all have rootz. Our rootz run deep!

          • Remember if you flee with property on foot, they will have their tracking dogs.

          • howdy- doody says:

            So much has been debated on this topic. But in the final analysis, using good common sense and critical thinking—you are so right. No matter how you look at the situation, when you bug out, you will forever be a refugee. if that’s your choice, good luck to you. we all live and die by our choices, and I’m sure that idea will be played out sooner or later.

        • PO'd Patriot says:

          DRD5508, I’d be honored. My wife would have a hard time making a run for it. My son wouldn’t budge and neither will I. The outcome is something I can’t predict nor concern myself about. Therefor I’ll do my best to whittle them down some and lighten your load. Tomorrow we may fight, but today we live!

        • Justonemind says:

          Does the phrase “We will all hang together, or we will hang separately” ring a bell? Or how about “we mutually pledge teach other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor”?

      • Barterman says:

        amen brother. NOMI. Your front door should be the last line of defence.Thats where the fight of your life happens. So go Big or bug out.peace. Im going Big!

      • TheGhost says:

        ive been prepping for 4yrs and it takes along time

        • Yes, it certainly does. We’ve been decades at it. Birthday presents are easy to decide on tho. Whatever is next on the priority list…won’t mention what it was, but I knew that it was important to have at least one particular item. Ordered it without telling husband, knew he had to be told sometime, so gave it to him for father’s day gift. He thought it was pretty cool. One year for birthday I gave him the hand pump for gasoline barrel. Also using the Cabelas Visa credit card racks up dollars to spend at the Cabelas store.

    6. wrong says:

      I challenge you to find 1000 rounds of ammo. And then find the money to pay for it!

      • usmc2531 says:

        Ammo is tough..it can be found…unfortunately I had to pay the price for being…”sleepy”.

        • John Q. Public says:

          Scour the internet ammo sites and ammo/component search engines and you can find almost any cartridge.

          Yes, often pricey, but what isn’t pricey these days?

        • Barterman says:

          I made the mistake of burning up several hundred rounds prior to the whole gun contol debate that started the Great ammo shortage of 2012.Learned my lesson too!

        • swampratt says:

          All calibers are easy to get in WEST TENNESSEE 9MM 45,
          223, 556 AND the 22long are getting better

        • howdy- doody says:

          I’m proud to say I saw this problem coming, and bought “stuff” all along in the last few years. Always looking for more, but ok with what I have. Sometimes a gut feeling can be a good thing. The bad thing, is that my gut is telling me things are going to get much worse, very soon. Good luck fellow preppers.

      • This might come off as crass, not my intention

        but if anyone is just now looking for ammo, they fucked up.

        pay attention!

        • Mittens says:

          Walmart and Academy in my area (Florida) are both getting in ammo on the regular, and charging what they charged before, which is to say, the lowest prices in the nation, for it.

          Cabela’s in the Northern States, I am told, is also getting in ammo.

          Ask your gun desk guy what their ammo shipment days are, and show up when they get the ammo in. Our Walmarts have a three box limit and Academy has a one box limit, but with three shipments a week several stores in the area I have no issue getting ammo at all at the moment.

          If you shoot an AK you can buy ammo online @.25c a round.

          Gunbot is your friend.

          An AK costs maybe $700-800 for a good one.

          A sling and light for it cost another $50-60 bucks.

          No excuses.

          • troll killer says:

            Mittens

            folks out there should always be reloading Lee has a perfect box set for around $350.00 to $400.00 has everything but brass dies powder and lead and primers

            trust me its money well invested and will last a life time

            i am using a third hand well used lee press and gear has to be at least 25 years old and works like its brand new
            ( looks like crap )

            and i have over 15,000 rounds of all types all hand built so no big worries for me includes 6,000 223 rem S/B
            i also still have close to 13,000 primers ( sorry not for sale )

            the only thing i lack is brass right now but that will change soon i hope

            troll killer

          • Man on the inside says:

            Pacific northwest is the same. You can only get three boxes each time but that means me and the misses get six each time. 9mm FMJ 19.59 for a box of 50. 120 bucks a week gets us 1200 rounds each month. in four months we have 3000 rounds… ( did a bit of shooting the last four months).

        • Ghost Rider says:

          @VRF; You are right, but remember there are some that are just seeing the light.

          @Wrong; In my area, the only thing not available is 9mm. Everything else is in stock. And prices are coming back down. Local store has 500rd cans of Federal 5.56 for $230. It is out there, just dont panic buy.

          • Satori says:

            still VERY serious shortages in my area

            a little 12 gauge stuff is available time to time

            but only some #7 and 8 shot

            no slugs
            and no buckshot

            • OutWest says:

              Satori

              Dump out bird shot–replace with larger fishing line
              split-shot or muzzle loader round balls, recrimp shell.

            • MadMarkie says:

              ‘Borrow’ (steal) some of your kid’s broken crayons, melt them down and make yourself some slugs out of the #7 or #8 shot that IS available out there. Either that, or learn how to make ‘cut’ shot-shells. Instructions for both are readily available on the net.

            • HisArmsWide says:

              Birdshot makes an excellent glaser slug. Just cut through the plastic shell about 90% so it looks like () where the top and bottom aren’t cut.

              When it shoots the entire plastic shell becomes a slug. When it hits the plastic breaks open and all the shot goes into the target exactly like a glaser safety slug.

              I can get 6″ groups out to 40-50 yards with these and they punch nice slug like holes in the target.

              Ejection of the brass cup may be an issue for some models of shotguns, test yours before depending on these.

              • The Old Coach says:

                No-one knows how many guns have been blown up doing that. The lost count seventy years ago. Like liberalism, it’s a stupid idea that just won’t die.

              • Shootit says:

                Live by the book. Get the right gear and reload. I cast my own bullets and buck shot. My buckshot is not real pretty like you buy, but it works.

                Nothing wrong with 7 or 8 shot for defense. It will work out to 25 yards. Another thought is you can use the 7 or 8 shot to cast buckshot.

          • possee says:

            vrf

            better late than never….

            There are a numerous folks just barely waking up nowadays..albeit ,still, a small minority..

            As you and I are avid shooters anyways, we always had backup for the next range trip..

            For a while though, ammo had been tough to come by..

            as we both know, there’s never such a thing as too much lead..

            and I intend to add much more to my”portfolio”..

            possee

          • swampratt says:

            GhostRider TN is getting a lot of 9mm Wal-Mart ,gander
            mountain

        • VRF,

          That’s not crass at all. The time for mincing words and walking on egg shells is long past. Excellent point.

          • Glad to see it wasn’t taken as a personal attack, that was not my intention.
            True there are new comers awakening , but being late for the party doesn’t always grant you a pass, hence, the “pay attention” wording.

            Obviously this comment was not ment for any of us that have been watching what are fearful “leaders” have and have not been up to lately.

            To be straight up with you all, Im done with the government scare tactics, its propaganda, its ment to keep you down and in your hidey hole, and that’s just not how this cowboy rolls.., make all the fucked up “laws” you want, screw with everyones unalienable rights..I know how the game is played, and im not playing.

            NOMI, you will know me

            • VRF,

              It’s better to be a day early, than a second late.

              -Fortes fortuna adiuvat

            • CWinOR says:

              AMEN! I determined some time ago that I was willing to pay whatever price they tried to charge for ignoring the “Laws” of Man, and return to living by what I was raised with- the Laws of God, common sense and accumulated wisdom . Some time ago, the two sets of laws seriously diverged. Now, it’s said most people break at least 3 laws every day just going about their everyday lives. Screw that! I’ve opted-out and decided I wasn’t going to continue to play a game that was rigged so that there was never any hope of winning it anyway.

            • Good point,well taken…the only ammo Im looking for is MORE! ;)

        • James in Dallas says:

          My house was robbed a few months ago. They stole almost everything I own, including all my guns and ammo. The police aren’t doing anything about it either. I bought a 7mm just over a week ago, just saving up to buy ammo.

          So I am looking for ammo, but it was not I who fucked up.

          • Canadian Vet says:

            At least you’re lucky not to be Canadian. Up here, if your guns are stolen odds are you will be charged for improper storage (even if the thieves spend a considerable amount of time and effort getting into your safe or locked and deadbolted gun room/closet) and look at actual jail time for the crime of being burglarized.

        • wrong says:

          Which is why I said what I said. Sorta late to write/read to ammo up. I see it out there on the net but good Lord! Plus, I never bought ammo on line anyway. Bad idea in my mind..

        • howdy- doody says:

          man you said a mouthful. I genuinely feel sorry for someone who has just woke up, and needs the obvious stuff.

      • digger says:

        The lull is in full swing…it has lasted longer than I thought possible.
        Ammo is much cheaper and easier to find now.
        Wholesale prices are unchanged for the most part

      • king krazy says:

        You had all the time in the world to stock up on ammo. Part of prepping is to plan for shortages way in advance. I saw this mess coming years ago and planned accordingly.

      • Anonymous says:

        piecemeal my brother. 2 days of giving help better than none.

      • Survivor in waiting says:

        You can find all the ammo and magazines you want at http://www.gunbot.net . And you can even pick your price, most of it is free shipping and also delivered to your door. No more spending all your gas and time looking for it. Absolutely no excuses. The bankers even invented a thing called credit cards and a line of credit to get yourself into temporary trouble with, which wont do them (the bankers) any good when the SHTF. I know its always said you should be out of debt to prepare for the collapse, and thats all well and good in a perfect world. But I would rather have the physical preps than a piece of plastic in my back pocket with a line of credit unused. Pay the minimum or more on the balance as you see fit but…… TIME IS RUNNING OUT! Just my two cents plus interest.

        • Anonymous says:

          True story: About two months ago, no more, we were in line at checkout at a Wal Mart on a weekday evening, around 7 p.m. Suddenly, the system for processing credit cards and debit cards, or any type of plastic, which I presume included SNAP cards, went down. Boom, that was it. No sales could be processed at checkout unless they were check or cash. This lasted for around 30 minutes. The cashiers and store managers were as dumbfounded as the customers. No one knew what had caused it or how long it would last or how to resolve it.

          Folks who live their lives through plastic cards would be in a world of hurt if this happened for an extended period across a region or even across the country.

          Given the insecurity of credit cards and debit cards, and many, many other forms of computer-based recording keeping and processing — because of hacking — I am amazed that retailers and others have not returned to the old fashioned ways of doing business and making sales without the use of computers. A locally owned but large grocery store chain in our area just announced that they had been hacked for a period of three months before it was discovered and every customer’s credit card number or debit card number used at their stores during that time period had been stolen by the hackers.

          You couldn’t pay me enough to use a debit card, and we use credit cards only when necessary, which makes it easy to keep track of what should be on the bill when it arrives.

          This computerization of every facet of life has become such a risk that I am surprised that there have not been movements afoot to roll it back and return to paper records in locked filing cabinets, etc.

          Anything digital can be monitored.

        • Stickman says:

          I’ve racked up considerable debt buying my preps. Paid cash for them when I could but I felt a panic to stock up on prep items and the plastic enabled me to do so. I figured the same Survivor. In a SHTF scenario, my debt would be the least of my, or its holders problems. That’s not to say that I sometimes regret this decision to put myself in debt. Too late to turn around now and somehow I too feel that time is running out.

          • howdy- doody says:

            you do what you have to. Owing something on a credit card will be the least of your worries if you have no supplies. I think everyone will agree time is so short.

        • Barterman says:

          Thats right. You have to make use of all assets.

          • Man on the inside says:

            Yep….. I went this way at the beginning too….(paid it all down though) you have to do what you have to do to protect the ones you love…. as long as you have a plan.

        • Those who have prepared you will know, they will have confidence in themselves and God. The ones who did not prepare will have a sheepish look and downcast countenance. It will be obvious. But beware of the self-confident big mouth!

      • wingsfan says:

        Go to a site like bulkammo.com or luckygunner.com one of the other sites where you can get ammo by the case – it IS out there, you just need to watch it to make sure you can afford it!

      • TXRNGER says:

        Wrong;

        I have only visited this site for about 2-3 yrs and have approx 100,000 rounds various calibers .22-.50. Food storage for 2 years for 4 people no problem, fallback location with building and security. All being done with catuion and OPSEC. Yes it can be done, but you have to make that determination. Also have varialbe means of transportation, Horse, walking distance, small moped etc., that will make it posssible for you and yours.
        Prepare, prepare, prepare.

        Not just food, but counter threat by same means.

      • dsd1 says:

        AK ammo easily found now for 1000 rounds $275

        AR down to 45 cents per round in some places. (not too far off from a couple years ago)

        http://www.ammoseek.com

        i don’t drink, don’t smoke that money instead goes to supplies when i can.

        if you waited this long to buy then it is only your own fault, i’ve been putting some aside as i can for the past few years – there is no reason others could not have done the same thing. procrastination will kill more then any other reason.

        • lena says:

          how can you not be drinking now ?

          after seeing a week’s worth of worlwide government corruption roll on and life for people all over get incrementally worse; i need at least 6 drinks !

          there is likely to be a time where i’ll have to stay alert 24/7 to stay safe as i live in a big city and part of that city that is known to have money, but right now; i like to put myself out of it for a few hours and wake up a little foggy so i forget just what kind of hell is likely to come about over the next 10 years.

          • CWinOR says:

            You are sooooooo not alone!!! So many days…especially lately, I think my head will spontaneously combust from the onslaught of idiocy, criminality and immorality. I’m prepped (but continue to prep always), but some days…..you just have to get alittle bit numbed.

      • Red Leader says:

        Try gunbot.net for ammo

    7. Satori says:

      I’m with you Patriot

      time to stand and fight
      Dog Soldier time

      retreat is not an option

      “Four of the bravest Dog Soldiers were chosen to wear sashes of tanned skins called “dog ropes” into battle.

      HISTORICAL NOTE:

      Attached to each dog rope was a picket-pin [used to tether horses]. The pin was driven into the ground as a mark of resolve in combat. When a Dog Soldier was staked to the ground in order to cover the retreat of his companions, he was required to remain there even if death was the consequence. The Dog Man could pull the pin from the ground only if his companions reached safety or another Dog Soldier released him from his duty.”

      http://www.manataka.org/page164.html

    8. Yes, I challenged myself a long time ago when this was easy to do. At least that what it feels like now. At the time of doing all this and more, it seemed overwhelming. You have to start somewhere and focus on one thing at a time. Good luck to those about to embark on this journey.

    9. ponomo says:

      Another great and useful bit of information from Brandon.

    10. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      ALERT! China Empowered by Executive Order to Foreclose on our Property! http://investmentwatchblog.com/alert-china-empowered-by-executive-order-to-foreclose-on-our-property/

    11. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Washington Is Driving The World To The Final War — Paul Craig Roberts http://investmentwatchblog.com/washington-is-driving-the-world-to-the-final-war-paul-craig-roberts/

    12. Sick of it all says:

      A great article written here now if only the other 97% got onboard. Maybe if these words were distributed with the monthly welfare check …… Everyone have a great Fourth of July for what it’s worth. Could be the last one as we know it. BE SAFE OUT THERE

    13. Merc says:

      In my area (Ohio) the gun shows have plenty of ammo. Bit pricey right now, but available.

    14. sittinguy says:

      Good luck finding that ammo. That time has past for the average person. All of us that have the ammo,,, it will be worth its weight in gold.

    15. Ordinary Average Guy says:

      The ammo shortage is a planned event by TPTB…an attempt at an end around of the 2nd. No one can convince me otherwise.

      • OutWest says:

        Ordinary Average Guy

        My brother-in-law knows a fellow in Illinois that works
        for an ammo reloading service.
        The guy said they were so busy that two full shifts had
        to be put on to try and keep up.
        They also had a lucrative contract with the DHS.
        The DHS told the company that if they wanted to keep
        that contract, they had to knock off the second shift.
        So there you have it.

    16. QuantumBubbler says:

      We will learn from truckers when the HHS is prepositioning their armored vehicles. We’ll be ready for them. They are the failures, remember that.

    17. Unreconstructed Southron says:

      Dum Spiro Spero

      Deo Vindice!

    18. possee says:

      6 months food..check
      water source and storage..check
      ammo and armaments..check
      clothing sanitation garden…check

      neighbors on board?…hell, we lost nearly every one of our so called friends over the last few years due to our conversations regarding the subject at hand..

      We live in the land of the beast here in Mass…you know the area which millions willfully submitted to “stay in place” during the Boston bombing of late..

      where every night the glare of wide screens illuminates the neighborhoods ..placating themselves in dull hypnotic stares..

      where all the so called “adults” men and women alike, are consumed with New England sports teams ,wear their respective jerseys ad nauseum,discuss the latest stats in a fever pitch,on and on and on..

      where at the local markets. the carts full of ready to eat gmo infested foods..and nearly everyone is consumed with their “precious”…(nod to lord of the rings)..cell phones

      I couldn’t agree more Brandon..but when in Rome..and we’d love to get the hell out of here but can not feasibly do so at this time..

      Guess we’ll be the last man and woman standing sometime in the very near future..

      possee

      Hell, we even checked your site for local ‘prepper” groups..or individuals..not a one for over a hundred miles…

      • knobster says:

        Amen brother. I’m surrounded by barely-conscious pond scum in my little ‘burb. Waddling around, unloading all the instant food from their SUVs, kids glued to their ipads and Wii’s, hiring other people to mow the lawn, not a single tool in their garage, and the list goes on.

        I’m 5 hours from my retreat and have already pre-positioned most of my stuff there. I’m not sticking around once the balloon goes up!

      • Wolf359 says:

        You won’t be the only one left standing. Theres a few of us in Mass who will be standing right with ya.

        • possee says:

          Wolf359

          What’s your 6?

          I’m on the upper Cape as they call it..vacation destination…full of vacationing yuppies and multinational ceo’s with homes that would make Beverley Hills blush..

          Wish me and the misses were a bit more “awake” when we bought our meager home here 18 years ago …never would have moved here…were intending on the outskirts of the Northwest and or the likes of Montana and Wyoming..but a growing family and jobs brought us here..

          possee

          • Wolf359 says:

            Possee,

            Between rt 3 and 93 and 95 and 495 north of Boston. I’m in the same boat, work and family keep us here. I will be leaving the state though if those insane gun laws proposed get passed.

      • YankeeDoodle says:

        @Possee. Regarding the loss of your so-called friends your not alone. I moved to a 55 or older community just over 3 years ago and everybody was friendly and nice. After discussing the coming financial collapse with some of the so-called friendly’s they no longer talk to me and avoid me like the plague. They are consumed with their boccie tournaments and who is in first place and their mahjongg games and all the other bullshit nonsense that consumes their lives. Not one of them have an ounce of brains. If they did they would walk lopsided. They have never heard of the Petro Dollar,the fractional reserve” banking system, the NDAA, The Patriot Act, etc,etc. These are the assholes that will capitulate with the enemy and turn their neighbors in to save their own asses.Well I have to go now, I have to watch “keeping up with the Kardashians”!

        Peace Brother
        YankeeDoodle

        • possee says:

          Thanx

          Wish I were 65 now..would cash out on the ss and let the chips fall where they may..have 4 years to go on that wish..if we even make it that far..

          possee

      • sixpack says:

        “where every night the glare of wide screens illuminates the neighborhoods…placating themselves in dull hypnotic stares…”

        I drove down one city street not long ago, and noticed that virtually all of those easy-to-see wide screen TVs were even on the same exact channel. I could tell by the synchronized flickering of the screens.

        That moment stayed with me, as a testament to the state of programmed numbness of the masses. They are ALL plugged into the same source of destruction.

      • AR15 Bob says:

        Hey were here in the western part of the stste preppen for years,know what your sayin peoplesrepublic of Ma like to talk to you,see what your thinking.

      • Not in your area but its similar in some ways here…really theres a lot of folks who are ready so to speak but around here no body(very few) talks to or trusts anyone else…and that’s in good times…now theyre downright unfriendly especially with all the outsiders showing up and acting all thuggish and superior…I was one of the first in this area but now a lot of the old farms around have grown up and been bought by yuppies some came as far as 150 miles away from big city areas and bought so called camps…right now as this is Independence day weekend so theres a bunch of inner city rejects all out tearing up the dirt road and side trails on their shiny new 4-wheelers making noise and dust….gotten so I hate holidays and weekends cause they all show up…I figure when TSHTF they’ll all be coming out to these camps and then only God knows whatll happen…could get crazy…for them ;)

      • Possee if you have assets, sell what you can get a good RV and di di mau, say hasta luego to the assholes in Mass. There are some remote areas in NE if you can be self sufficient. Would pray and point the RV in a direction and go. I would not stay anywhere in Mass, NY, Middle Atlantic. By the way Vermont has good gun laws but the people are a little hinkey. Lot of liberals in some areas…a lot but they are self-sufficient! The West and SW is not for me, but go where the Lord leads you. The people of Mass are totally brain dead. Good time to saddle up now and boogie.

        • possee says:

          Ike

          Thanks for the input..

          My daughter is expecting twins any day now..can not in good conscience leave my kin abandoned..we will hunker down and stay put.

          Have a well secured garden,a well,and all the other necessary ingredients to survive for an extended family.
          We have contingency plans when needed.My oldest son is Iraq vet usmc 50 cal gunner/squad leader..well versed in survival and medical training..we will be good.

          possee

          • Possee: I sure wish we had some people ex-military like your son and his friends that could add to our knowledge of what they think. I know most vets do not want to talk about it. But possibly your son would grace us with his perspectives if he is not too busy surviving and raising a family. If he wants annonimity he could use Starpage.com or Torproject.org. I do not know is Tor will allow posts though.

      • Posse…land and house prices are pretty reasonable in a lot of places in NE today especially if they are remove. Good deals on cabins in the woods with 3-5 acres $45,000 range. In winter you need a good 4X4 with plow and plenty of firewood.

        • Them Guys says:

          Many great price deals in Northern Mich too. Plenty of cribs that went for $75 grand few yrs ago now listed at $30 grand!…I want a 5th wheel and mid size semi truck hauler. If I do not go that route, I am 1/2 inch away from leaving this crib behind to buy a cheeper place for cash or land contract as many land contract are avail now too. you wouldn’t believe what $60-$75 grand can buy here now!!

          Even seen a few late 1890′s built farmhomes, Huge 5 bedrooms etc with as many as 115 acres 1/2 to 1/3rd Tree’s rest cleared for farming etc. Prices Below $100 grand!…..A Few yrs ago they were more like 1/4 Million dollars or more.

          My Plans are 5th wheel and truck, Min 2-3 seperate parcels land, at least an acre or two each. With Well and elec or elec avail. One out Montana or idaho areas…One where it Remains warmer in winter. Gypsy man!

          I like the idea of all I own contained in my 5th wheel Home on wheels! If I go anywheres I can Take all I own and never be stranded too far from it all. And in a situation such as “There goes the Neighborhood” occures…I need 30 min to battan down hatches, hook to hauler truck, wave Bye Bye! plus same Rights you have with a Home resid. Applies to 5th wheel. And way lower property tax on bare land.

          If I cannot do that, then it will be move to smaller cheeper place as a perm home like now have.

          Hope I can sell this one for what I owe only and I be happy!

    19. usmc2531 says:

      Ammo is tough..it can be found…unfortunately I had to pay the price for being…”sleepy”.

    20. nadia says:

      not 6 month but 2 weeks the latest, glass-steagall will fix it all

    21. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      ‘ Bwaaaa hahaha ‘ ;0p

      ‘ YOU ARE ALL SOOOOOOOOOO SCREWED !’ ;0p

      ‘ HAPPY *ZOG AMERIKA 4TH OF JULY ’1984′ GOYIM GENTILE ENSLAVEMENT DAY !’ ;0p

      ;0p pssszzt

      The Terrifying Future of The United States https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rwmD4c_NxI

      *ZOG = ZIONIST jew OCCUPIED GOVERNMENT

      • sharonsj says:

        In my area, it’s the majority Christians in the state legislature who are busy restricting voting, focusing on women’s bodies, taking away food stamps from the old and disabled, giving tax breaks to the rich, letting the fracking companies destroy our water, doing nothing about creating jobs, and privatizing everything for their own profit.

    22. svenny says:

      off topic. Mers (coronavirus) death toll up to 42. As you may know, this is mostly confined to Saudi Arabia. a few million Muslims are set to go to Saudi Arabia in October, including about 11,000 American muslims. be prepared for widespread issues in November and December.

      • Mers – Smers is that some kind of re-entry vehicle. It’s all bullshit that is being fed to us via the Obamy ‘I promise I won’t take your gun’ daffy media network. They plug fear whenever and however they can via the asshole scientist who refuse to stand up. But to some degree I can’t blame the scientist because many of them end up pushing up daisies if they squeeeel. No cahonies. They just want to vaccinate your ass so you end up a stupid moron like them. They stayed to long in their profession which made them drooling idiots.

    23. Satori says:

      want to be labeled a potential terrorist ???

      our government has made that very easy

      FBI Handout Lists Purchase of Preparedness Items as “Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities”

      http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/08/10/7769/

      • I would only deal with people I know when buying anything. If they do not publish that they do not keep names and Id and do not report anything then I would totally avoid them. Even then watch your backside because they set up false fronts or pressure businesses to provide info. We have known this for years.

    24. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      another stupid blue piggy

      just how dumb do you have to be to become a cop

      moron cop ‘OFFICER DAVIS’ pepper sprays VISCOUS KILLER baby squirrel in self defense

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ccf_1372764573

    25. Ugly says:

      Good advice on troubled times soon ahead.

      The 6 month food supply is a goal that 75% of folks can reach if they really want to. After you have a 6 month workable food storage system, then you must always look for food each day and ration your food storage. That is, your 6 month storage could last 2 years if you learn how to obtain food other ways.

      ie., learn your perenials such as dandelions, Jerusalem artichoke, and so forth.

      Water is big, and so is some form of defense.

      I feel like I am blogging and hiding in Germany or Russia 70 years ago. Can’t believe we are discussing this stuff in America.

      Who would have thought that gardening ideas and food storage could be outlawed in America?

      • possee says:

        Who would have thought that gardening ideas and food storage could be outlawed in America?

        Perfect..ugly..perfect!

        and it’s getting more absurd by the day..

        Rod Serling is now the “norm”

        possee

      • BigB says:

        You hit it on the head Ugly. Who would have ever believed?

        The goal of surviving is one thing. But what is the point if we do not have a end game goal?

        It is time to start thinking about not just surviving but to effect a change that when all is said and done we have a better world in which to live in.

        That means not just surviving but going on the offense against TPTB at the same time. To bring about a future way of life that we / futiure Americans can prosper in.

        Survival for each of us as an individual or for just family and friends does nothing if there is not an end goal that insures a future.

        Me? I am a libertarian and want to live and let live. I only ask that others do not infringe on my personal rights. Abolish the current government leaving in place the constitution and start over with common sense rules and a taxation system that can not be used against me or other countries unless they violate our space.

        It is my wish that we bring back the principles and reasoning of our founding fathers. Anyway it is something to think about as we celebrate our independence tomorrow, 7/4/2013.

        Happy Independence Day everyone.

        BigB

        • Man on the inside says:

          Been saying that for 10 dam years…

          Lay low when the flag goes up … let them set there plan… then the 6 million of us and the cops and millitary that will side with us (and some will), go hunting. Then we hit the reset button and have new elections and start fresh. best part is the unpreped libtards will be the first to stave to death…

    26. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      U.S. Nuclear Weapons Being “Guarded” by 9/11 FALSE-FAG ATTACK ZIO-JEWS (Israel)

      you just can’t make this sheeit up

      ‘ OH YEAH , I FEEL REAL SAFE NOW , KNOWING THE JEWS ARE GUARDING ZOG AMERIKA’S NUKES !”

      WTF ??? ;0p

      http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2007/09/26/8910.shtml

    27. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Why is Israel Providing ‘Security’ to US Nuke Plants & Air Force Bases?

      An Israeli company called “Magal.”

      The following clients have purchased security systems from Magal S3, its associated companies and / or partners. This list represents only a fraction of our installations. Due to the confidential nature of the security requirements of our customers, we cannot publish names and / or site locations.

      http://careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.de/2013/07/why-is-israel-providing-security-to-us.html

    28. You should really have a year’s worth of food stored. Six month’s worth will get you to growing season, but you may starve until harvest. You also need to grow enough surplus to preserve until next harvest…another year. Most will not be able to do this and will starve. There will be billions liquidated by war, starvation and natural disasters as the slide down the backside of Hubbert’s curve picks up speed.

      A cheery good morning to all. Get crackin’

      • Six months is easier to start with, that’s about where I am. It’s taken me a year to store that, because I have been trying to be balanced. Food, fuel, ammo, water, pet food, clothing, and getting a garden going again. We have grown huge amounts of produce in the past, but until we moved into the place we are now there was no room. We can and do cook from scratch and know how to preserve it.
        Starting with an extra week of food is better then nothing. I just sent a big box of food to a friend who really needs it. Then I helped her with a shopping plan to make her food stamps stretch, and to build up some storage. Cooking from scratch is way cheaper then boxed or frozen crap.
        I hope everyone has an enjoyable and safe day tomorrow.

        • JayJay says:

          I understood today why mothers take their kids to MCdonalds for the $1 box.
          I bought a bag of apples for $4 and counted 7.
          7 apples @ .57 cents each?
          I didn’t even buy other fruit at Aldis.
          Seasonal fruit that has increased in price?? What is happening? Peaches, plums, grapes–I just stared.
          Gonna go get an apple for snack! :-)

          • JayJay says:

            Is anyone else having trouble with this site?
            Long running script??
            Every time I post. And the site is navigating strangely.

            • JayJay says:

              What is a long-running script??

            • MayBeSo says:

              @ JayJay,

              …Funny that you should mention THAT.

              I have been having MAXIMUM probems with EVERYTHING internet related for a couple of weeks now…especially, my ‘off-board’ email accounts, in this case gmail.

              I got SO pissed off over it that I wrote an email – to NO ONE, not ‘sent’ – remember, as you ARE typing it IS auto-saving every 30 seconds or so, Yes?…that is, it IS passing the characters you are typing back TO the server each time…right?…you ALL DO know that, Yes?

              Uh-huh…well I typed up a NASTY little message to anyone watching that flow of traffic, – I didn’t SEND it anywhere – at ALL – just typed it up and left it in my “drafts” box…and you wouldn’t BELIEVE how wierd things got after THAT….how many things my A/V caught trying to come down the pike at me through my connection until I turned off my net adapter for 24 hours…forcing my ISP to give a me a new internet address….you all might try THAT for yourselves…to see if you get anything like that happening afterwards.

              After everything that has come out over the last few weeks I’m ASSUMING that every last thing that gets typed on my ‘pute is ‘open-season’ for ‘None Such Agency’…. wouldn’t it be interesting if EVERYONE started doing something like that….we might just see – rather quickly – JUST how much they actually ARE monitoring, hmmm? If you do, make ABSOULETLY sure you use a lot of verbage centered around ‘bombs’ and ‘Mass Destructuion’ and all those other little key-phrases those assholes are so fond of…Oh, and ALSO, anything “Nuclear” at all
              …also, if you throw in anyhting related to polio virus, “Hanta”, “Marburg” or “Ebola”…then that would probably be helpful too!…let’s SEE just how good thier computers actually ARE; let’s SWAMP thier SYSTEMS…a ‘full court-press’…I am SO tired of these POS’s thinking they are the “Masters of the Universe’, fuck ‘em.

              Is it just me, or is this WORSE than that ‘effin ‘McCarthysim’ from the 50′s? Hell, now EVERYONE is the ‘Enemy’ in the eyes of these ‘shit-heads’…this CRAP has got to STOP Folks…SOON, you know IT!

              • patientmomma says:

                If you are using IE and google, suggest you switch to another. There were some posts a while back about some cleansing SW and some blocking SW called ABINE.

                • MayBeSo says:

                  @ patientmomma

                  IE?…Nah..that’s for the kiddies…it’s what the “Corp” would LIKE for you to be using,.LOL…they don’t call it “Internet Exploder” for nothing.

                  In truth, the firt thing you should do is YANK IE out by the roots by way of the ‘Remove Prgrams’ option nder ‘remove Windows components’ (at least in Win7 or above)…but that sTILL doesn’t mean that you can get it all out…the damn thing will STILL keep tracking a buncvh o what you do; you still have to go into the control panel under “Network and Internet”, then “Internet Options to force it to give up things.

                  There, set ‘Security’ to ‘High’, ‘Cookies’ to ‘Block ALL’ (which won’t effect Firefox or it’s vartiants…but you DO have to tell those – internally- how you you DO WANT them to behave…under the options tab in the main menu. Anyhow…still on IE here – the firdt tab under “Internet Properties” will give you the option oif deleting the Browsing History…set it to do so! There are several other things around like that nder thjose tabs…look around and set all accordingly as you see fit. IF you HAVEN’T done this then Microsoft…and by extenion the NSA sees everything you do…EVERYDAY, since it is basically DESIGNED to do so…a HAPPY thought, No? Good luck to you all…and ALL that is just a start!..there IS more.

                • JayJay says:

                  On this site, it takes several clicks to respond/reply to posts–I am Ixquick and have been for a few years.
                  I get a long script warning and do I want to stop?
                  Duh!!
                  I have no idea why it is just this site–Heads Up Mac??
                  When I do reply, the navigation takes forever and I have to click and start over where I was reading…PITA!!
                  I restarted my ‘puter and it helped except here.

              • Shootit says:

                1. Get a little program call “Better Privacy” it will automatically remove LSO or what are called permanent cookies. Go into the options and set it to remove them every 5 seconds. Since June 26th it has removed 658 on this computer.

                2. I use is “Ghostery”.

                3. Never allow 3rd party cookies… unless you know the site.

                4. Clear your temp. cookies daily.

                • MayBeSo says:

                  @ Shootit

                  Thanks for the ‘FYI’ on “Better Privacy” and “Ghostery”.

                  Also, thanks for the mentioning 3rd Party Cookies, clearly I mised that above, Kudos!….NO ONE should EVER allow anyone to set them…frankly I think that is how the NSA knows about half of what it does (remember, THEY watch the fiber optic backbone, so ANYTHING which goes across it…no matter WHO is asking for it, they then HAVE); turn THOSE Damn things OFF in your browsers People!!

                  Also, CHECK your router logs every so often and reset it by turning off the power to it for 30 seconds; IF someone can reset the domain lookup tables on that then they POWN you…make it difficult for them Folks…DON’T “hand it to them on a silver platter”, the Internet is for ratinal, THINKING Adults…be one, please.

              • Them Guys says:

                Except that McCarthy Was right about kommie infiltrations etc. His Only mistake was how bad be Underestimated how Many kommies already were here as of back Then. McCarthy= True Patriot.

          • That’s what she has done, we talked about how to buy produce cheaper, make it last longer, and getting the kids to try new things. Dollar menu at McDonalds will fill them up but is full of crap. She also lives in New Jersey which makes it worse, I have no idea how anyone can live in that shit hole.

    29. crash and burn says:

      stay off the grid as much as possible

    30. possee says:

      As we all are aware of the ongoing and upcoming collapse here..

      Egypt has collapsed in every sense..

      If only these headlines would only appear here instead of Egypt…

      Reuters..today

      Military chiefs, vowing to restore order in a country racked by demonstrations over Mursi’s Islamist policies, issued a call to battle in a statement headlined “The Final Hours”. They said they were willing to shed blood against “terrorists and fools” after Mursi refused to give up his elected office.

      if only

      if only

      possee

      • Zeke Zombie says:

        The KGB led Egyptians fighting the CIA led Egyptians.
        (Like most Civil Wars, the average guy doesn’t even know who is pulling the strings)

        We stir up Syria, Ivan stirs up Egypt. Watch for Libya to get hot soon too. Brazil and Argentina are also being destabilized, is Mexico next?

        • Not sure who the KGB is backing, but General el-Sisi has a masters from the Army War College here in Pa. Wonder whose puppet he is? The Suez will be kept open. This is more of another “food fight”. Egypt’s economy is mostly based on tourism. They don’t have enough arable land to feed themselves and not much export goods. Not enough oil. The IMF will not loan them any money until 2015. A bad, bad situation no matter who is in power. If you cannot at least feed your people you have BIG problems. I believe the global depression will see more and more food riots and eventually that comes here.

          • The Old Coach says:

            Friend of mine ran a major construction project in Egypt a few years ago. His take is that the Army is the only organization educated and competent enough to run that country. Go look up the illiteracy rate in Egypt. Makes Detroit look like Oxford.

      • Red Leader says:

        I am more worried about Mexico collapsing than Egypt. When Mexico goes down, we will see the results here in real time.

        • howdy- doody says:

          I don’t think I could tell any difference if that happened here in Florida. English is already the second language. In many instances when I go out shopping, I can’t even find a store clerk that I can understand. The young people who are bi-lingual prefer to speak Spanish to each other, and give you dirty looks when you look at them, wondering what they are saying. I just love America….

      • The only reason Morsi is still there is because of el-CIA duh wants him there otherwise…can you say Khadafi.

        • Them Guys says:

          Egypts Morsi is Replaced by Temp prez! Army aressted alot of morsis hard core muslims and installed I think its a Judge or ex judge who was appointed by Past prez. If I recall correctly what RT tv news reported late last nite before I nodded off.

    31. Sierra Dave says:

      If I can be so bold. Check into Potatoes. Search youtube for Potato towers. I’m not proposing you live off of spuds alone. But with a little education, you can grow hundreds of pounds in small spaces.

      Some people are claiming 60 pounds in a 4 x 4 foot area.

      Plan on 2-3 types minimum. You can harvest early if food has run out. They will just be small. AND depending on your season, you might get 3 harvests.

      Self sufficiency is not that hard. Add some Chickens and Rabbits and some other veggies and you are set.

      • Zeke Zombie says:

        Dave,
        Planted my first crop of spuds this Spring and you are right, the dam things grow like weeds. Can’t wait for harvest time this Fall. I guess that is why in Central European countries like Germany, Poland, and Russia, where they have had lots of War/Turmoil, spuds are a staple of their diet.

        Also growing beets, which grow about as well as potatoes if planted in a cool spot. Are Americans turning into Russians?

        • Red Leader says:

          Sierra Dave. Great advice on potatoes. During the Russian Revolution the new government confiscated grain, mostly wheat, to restribute. Wheat is concentrated, does not spoil and is easy to transport. The farmers and their families were able to survive on potatoes that they grew. The potatoes were to bulky to transport and spoiled so they were not taken.

          The best way to preserve such crops is a root celler.

          • sixpack says:

            In a wheat-dust cloud form, it is also explosive.

          • Did they take the wheat to redistribute or was it to sell to other countries?

            • Them Guys says:

              LSB: Correct. They Sold grain etc to Other countries to Fund their evil kommie Bolshevik revolt. NO potatos were left for farmers to eat!. Kommies Confiscated/stole it ALL, and whatever not stolen was destroyed, or if Livestock animals not taken were Killed off.

              Next step: In EVERY town city village bolsheviks overtook, those Gentiles not killed or sent to Gulags, were Ruled Over BY the appointed Talmudic Judiacs kommie leaders always apointed. And ONLY judiacs got to Rule gentiles as well as assist kommies mass murder genocide of White Christian Gentiles aka “Goyims”.

              Who ya think BUILT Aushwitz and many more “Camps”? Not Germans! Built BY russian and Polish talmudic judiacs to House Gentiles in. Same for Gulags. Almost All guards and camp capt’s were Judiacs only. Even where gentiles in red army and its gentiles supporters did those jobs, they themselves were Always controled BY talmudic Judicas.

              Ask any Ukrainian-Polish-Hungarian etc Gentiles what They think about Judiacs! They do Know what Few americans are just now learning of regarding Talmudic Judiacs and the Pure evils that tribe is capable of.

              CAUTION:! Before asking any Ukrainian-Polish-Hungarians etc about Their opinions regarding Talmudic Judiacs…FIRST ask if They are a Gentile! Otherwise you have zero ways to know who you are asking. And same as adl-splc etc if you ask a NON gentiles who was there or has relatives from there You are not likly to hear any truths about what I wrote here. Ask Gentiles! They Know!

              • When I was a kid, I went to visit grandparents in the LA area. Their next door neighbors came over to visit one day and they began to talk about what was done to their people in Hungary. Their voices began to break as they were speaking. Few people know about the sufferings of other countries. So sad. Here, we are all so spoiled.

      • Socrates says:

        Sierra Dave is correct: Potato towers are one of the most efficient means of high crop yield to space you can do. Use a sandy loam soil if at all possible, potatoes do well in that. Focus on the small red potato varieties for canning- they fit easily into reg or wide mouth mason jars and still taste great even after 2 years canned.

        I have informed others of the merits of ‘dry-canning’ hamburger and other meats as well and if you are not already doing this, you best get with the program! All info Sierra Dave mentioned as well as my info is found on YouTube… for now. There is a ‘lull’ that many may have felt recently and it will put many back to sleep…do not be fooled, this is simply the calm before the storm…and it approaches rapidly.

        Keep your powder dry…and hidden. You know the rest.

        • PenCRNA says:

          What are potato towers? Looking for ways to increase my food production. House and storage sheds and shaded front yard take up about almost half of my 2/3 acre.

          Got fruit trees, blackberries, straw berries and some perrenial veggies.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Sierra Dave, got 8/45 ft rows of Red Pontiacs. Planted five rows last year and got 418 lbs. of yield which lasted me around to February. That’s why I planted 8 rows this year. I usually dig them up in July, sort them and store them. I want to see if the yield this year will get me from July 2013 to July 2014, along with enough to use as seed for March 2014 planting time.

        • Sierra Dave says:

          Awesome PO’d Patriot!!!

          And to add to the taters versatility. You can make bread from it. You can also make Vodka from it.

          Not trying to bash Wheat. I have some stored. But the acreage needed and the time for an equal amount of Wheat versus Spus. Spuds win out.

      • Right now Im watching twelve 300′ rows of potatoes slowly drown and die….way too much rain here…heavy downpours almost everyday all day for over a week…washed all my beets and carrots/dill/okra away…last year it was too dry,this year we drown,glad I got the hoophouses at least the tomatoes/peppersand cabbage will make it…need some monster hoophouses that cover many acres…alas no money for them or the taxes theyd cost me every year…glad tohear some of y’alls potatoes and such are doing well,mine usually do but not this year sadly.

        • PO'd Patriot says:

          Reb, sorry to hear it. My vines are just starting to turn brown around the edges. I’ve got a couple that have withered all the way and I’m going out this morning to dig em up and see what it looks like. We too have gotten copious amounts of rain here.

        • Kevin2 says:

          REB

          If the potato crop was good how many potatoes do you get from 12 – 300ft rows?

          • Kevin2…Id be really happy to get a ton(2000lbs)…if everything were perfect a 300ft row containing about 300 plants and each plant giving just a pound would be 300lbs per row times 12 rows equals about 3600lbs off the top of my head….Im sure the right soil water and temps could do even better as Ive seen plants give 5lbs before…at that rate itd be around 18000 lbs or 9 tons I believe(doing the math off the top of my head…I don’t have a calculator…correct me if Im wrong but I think that’s right…that’s a pile of taters now that I think about it…(just checked a site out of Michigan and they say they average 31000 lbs per acre)…this was my biggest planting to date and Id hoped for 1500 lbs guess I should set my sights a bit higher eh?…Ill get what I can this year from the field and from my other smaller plantings and plan for more next year…on the farm you gotta have hope for next year even as you watch this year falter…cant farm without hope…thanks for asking…I hope that answered your question :)

      • Man on the inside says:

        We grow spuds and beets and now I get why they grow them in Russia… you get a buttload of food in a small area…. and then there is that vodka thing….

    32. GoodDay_2EnterIntoEternity says:

      Thank you, good article! Thanks for the good reminders. As one who recently woke up (I was always a little awake and a “prepper at heart” though) doing some of this stuff offers challenges especially with children, but most of it can be done to improve our personal situation and increase our chances as the madness around us increases (and it all depends on your location, etc. as well).

      I especially like the mention of the option of being able to say “hello” (or GOODBYE) at about 200m and beyond. I have seen the prices of 5.56 stuff starting to drop in our area (S. California) and ammo appears to slowly become more available.
      QUESTION: Anybody have any experience or recommendtions for 5.56 “pistols” ? (they look more like a small carbine, without a stock but it looks like they can be fitted with a “cheek stock”). For example, the “Century Arms pap m85″. Looks to be a good balance for indoor defense and the ability to reach out and touch someone if needed (especially in more urban areas). NOTE: They also have a similar model in the AK round, but from what I have read these are not recommended in the AK platform.
      Peace out

      • Zeke Zombie says:

        Just my opinion, but I would go with a short barrel shotgun before an AR/AK “pistol” .

      • Indy Colts says:

        I have a folding stock on one of my Ak’s and its really worthless unless your clearing rooms. I don’t see a value in “pup” rifles but maybe someone else can share their experience. If your looking for short range; a 12 guage without a stock would be choice.

        • BB Stacker says:

          Indy colts:

          If you are referring to “bullpup” type weapons, I have a little experience with them, and for the most part don’t like them. The thing I do like about them is the balance; they are easier to manipulate one handed when opening doors, and generally have a shorter overall length. Being trained on AR and M1A platforms has me instinctively reaching not far enough back to perform mag changes. And I don’t really like having the action/chamber so close to the ole pie hole.

          I have also found that short range shotguns with just a pistol grip are a bitch to hit with under stress. Low light stressful situations, I still want a shoulder stock for a well placed, but quick shot. I would guess that the last shotgun class I was in, about 40-50% of the folks missed their first shot at 5 yards, with a shotty, in low light quick fire scenarios, which were in simulated hallways or rooms with “popper” targets. Personally, an 18 inch, ghost ring sighted shotgun with a pistol gripped shoulder stock is ideal.

          I’m no expert, it just works best for me.

          • The Old Coach says:

            Yup. I tried a Contender last year for garden-varmint control. Could not hit a barn from the inside without taking a slow, deliberate rest to it. This year I’m using a 16.5″ barreled carbine, and haven’t missed a chance yet.

    33. Surviving the collapse is going to be easy compared to what is coming post collapse . )

      • kaynine says:

        agreed to m… I am more concerned about the group that does survive.They are going to be a hardened souless pack of killers,looking for their next target.Going to need lots of firepower.

    34. WarriorClass III says:

      Excellent post, Brandon!

    35. Dee in NC says:

      I usually buy salt each time I get paid (monthly) as I’m retired and on a strick budget. When I went to the local ALDI store on Monday they were out of salt. Pepper is also hard to get and very expensive. Ammo is still hard to find. Our garden isn”t doing very well because of all the rain. Most of the squash, cucumbers and watermelon are showing signs of rot due to all the water. Have a ratcoon problem trying to eat our chickens (lost 3 out of 10). There is rabies in the area and when we called animal control was told it was OUR problem as we live in the county.

      • “…was told it was OUR problem…”
        Ain’t that the truth. But get caught with an expired dog license or running loose and you will be required to pay several hundred dollars in fines. Dog control…just another useless “create-a-job” for revenue. Pass more statute to reinforce the useless revenue stream jobs. Sigh…the boot gets heavier every day.

        I have the same problems starting in my garden with the rot. It has been similar to this for the last three years. I hope this isn’t a new normal or we will have to find other things to grow or starve. Can’t seem to break two broody hens so they may get their necks stretched. Raccoons are wily creatures…did you try a live trap? I haven’t had that problem, but I have a dog.

        • Dee in NC says:

          JRS- caught one raccoon in the live trap but the other looked too big for it. Was told we could shot them but there is a city orderance that you can’t fire within so many feet of the city limits. We are about one block into the county.

          • @ dee
            Shoot’em anyways one shot won’t arouse anyone on july 4.
            Take care of the girls they are your best prep item.
            @ jrs
            I had the same problem with a hard headed broody. I just kept taking the eggs and put her outside the hen house 2 or 3 times a day. I think I may have cured her of it. Peace

          • Paco says:

            Solution is simple: Get an air rifle. .177. Get the hunting ammo and it will easily take care of a coon. Don’t forget that coons can be great eatin’ if properly handled (brine for at least 12 hours, par-boil 1 hour, then roast). In SHTF, I’ll barter coon removal via my live traps, then after getting paid for that, I’ll eat ‘em. If I have time, maybe tan the skins, IDK. Win/Win/Win for me.

          • Smokey says:

            Use a .22 Short round, very low noise, or .22 Long Rifle in a rifle, just a good cracking sound is all.

          • Shootit says:

            If you get a chance buy some .22 subsonic rounds. They run about 700 fps make less noise. They may not cycle a semi-auto action. I found some at Walmart a couple of weeks ago for $3.00 for a box of 50. The clerk asked my what I wanted those for? “What’s Your Sign?”

        • Grasshopper says:

          If any of you repubs had bothered to research the issue of catastrophic climate change, as I keep recommending, you would know the answer…of course, this is the new norm (all the rain). Expect the same and more! Some areas will have an abundance of rain, floods, etc., while other areas (like what is occurring out west, where 19 firemen recently lost their lives) there will be extreme dryness, drought, fires. Basically, we better have a hell of a bug out bag in the decades ahead! (If we want to eat!!)

          • Kevin2 says:

            Grasshopper

            The goal is to tax carbon based fuel very highly so its not used here so its available for export to China to fuel her industries. China is putting on line two new coal fired power plants per week with an on stream time of decades before a major rebuild. They surpassed the US in carbon to atmosphere in 2010 and have only a desire to use even more.

            The reduction in carbon based fuels in the developed world has nothing to do with reducing carbon to atmosphere and everything to do with facilitating the transfer of industrial capacity from the developed world to the developing world. This is why China, India and Brazil were exempted in the proposed treaties.

            Like the banning of the Keystone Pipeline global forces are behind it. Environmentalist groups are funded and are often used to apply political pressure for the globalists. Little is as it appears and most often the reasons are ostensible.

            • The Old Coach says:

              How right you are. Seen first hand how crooked land speculators use environmental laws against their competitors.

              Unions funded environmental groups to force change after change on the Shoreham nuclear plant on Long Island in the ’60s and ’70s. Every change meant more work for them. Eventually the electric company just gave up, and the unions made millions more tearing it all down.

              Keystone pipeline would take oil transport business away from Warren Buffet’s railroads.

              AlGore and Goldman Sachs stood to make billions out of that carbon credit exchange that finally got killed.

              And on, and on, and on, and on. . . . . . .

              • Shootit says:

                Buffet’s main cargo is coal. Wonder why they are trying to get rid of coal fired electric plants?

                • Kevin2 says:

                  The coal is to be exported to the developing world to fuel their industries. Natural gas at present has an insignificant infrastructure to facilitate its export from the US. Interestingly a facility was being built in Louisiana to import natural gas that was in mid construction modified to compress and liquify US natural gas from fracking for export.

                  Fracking both for natural gas and oil will greatly alter the global economic landscape in ways that were unintended. If nations that currently import oil manage to become oil independent or just significantly reduce their imports they need less US dollars. Need I paint that cause and effect picture?

          • JayJay says:

            Well, well, grasshopper.
            You may want to check out chemtrails and how they work.
            Spray of aluminum and other metals grabs the moisture and saves it.
            It is then directed to a place TPTB want to saturate–mostly evil intent.
            Weather modification has been here for decades–just became evil a few years ago.
            Started around the ski resorts.
            Read about it. Get enlightened.

            • The Old Coach says:

              Dahling ! Where did you get that stunning tinfoil hat?

              • I have always wondered, if an implant was put in someone’s scalp, would a tinfoil hat block a transmission of information. I also wondered about using a sheet of magnet, like what you would get in a craft store. People cut these sheets into smaller strips to make refrigerator decorations. If you were to put a sheet of magnet on both sides of your drivers license or passport, would this block transmission? Sure wish someone could tell me.

          • Its called a high pressure sitting off the east coast of the continent not moving so all the rain is being pumped up the coast clockwise from the Gulf…not a new normal…as last year was dry and hot…(next year?…who knows?)…and so that should have been the new normal then not a 180 to wet and cool…no, the new “normal” seems to be people blaming everything from the weather to hemmoroids on global warming!

      • sheptical citizen says:

        It Is your Problem. We be dependent on some goverment service? Its your chickens its your job to protect them. My chickens & poultry are fastened up in a Varmit proof Pen every nite. I place traps in the area to catch the varmits. I cover them during the day to avoid my livestock being caught. Much of my garden is raised beds they arent as affected by excess water. Put a cover over crops to shed excess rain. Also a cover can be used to shade your crops.

      • Ramadiron says:

        Catch a Ratcoon, Drag a old log over by your garden. Auger out a 2inch die hole about 3inc deep. Wad up some shiny tin foil in to a ball drop it in to the hole. Then drill sheet rock screws around the mouth of the hole so the point face in and down to the ball of foil. The coon will grab the ball and wont let go and can pull his hand out. Then get your wacking stick and go to work.
        gets em everytime!
        Ramadiron out

      • sixpack says:

        We used to throw some hay down under our melons when it was too wet for them. It helps filter the water down away from the topsoil where the melon rests. It also insulates the soil if necessary. It adds natural mulch when the soil is turned after the harvest.

      • Vicky says:

        I buy 1-3 boxes of iodized salt, one can of either tuna or even Spam, and at least one 12-pack of toliet paper every time I go to the store. Our garden was not doing well because of drought and hot temperatures, although it’s cooled down and rained a little bit this week. We’ve ordered a manual well pump which should be on its way, and I’m trying to figure out how to keep the walk-out basement cooler than normal in case electricity goes off due to natural or government-induced causes. Also, we live on top of a small hill (lateral moraine) and I’m looking for a strategy to watch all sides of it with only three people and one dog. My husband and I feel our first test will come if the outcome of the Zimmerman-Martin trial goes against that “poe chile”, Trayvon. We are within twenty minutes of a larger town with a large black population and while they may be content with burning down their section of town, they may also decide to hit the outlying rural communities. We plan to enjoy the 4th as this may the last celebration of such in a long, long time. Thanks for the sparkler idea, “Enemy of the State”. I’d hadn’t thought of that and it’s a good idea.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Dee in NC. I feel for you. Lost a good Chesapeake Bay Retriever many years ago when a polecat crawled in its kennel and she killed it a partially ate it. I went to the kennel that morning a to feed her up and freshen her water and the smell was breathtaking. To make a long story short the skunk was confirmed to be rabid and I had to shoot the dog and bury her. Animal control was just about as helpful to me as you found them. My squash and zucchini has given me spectacular yield till now. Powdery mildew has shown up and the squash and zuke blooms are making small fruit and turning brown before they mature. I’ve already started a second wave of seeds in small pots to replace them. Tomatoes are woahin’ up too. I did manage to gather in around two pound of kale seed from last year’s crop for this late summer’s planting. Won’t be long ‘fore I’m dign’ taters. I sure do love eatin’ them so! Between the garden, work, and work around the house its full tilt. Haven’t got a chance to do any reloading or get to the range to do some shooting. Got a lot of meat in the freezer to dehydrate and can. Whoo!, busier than a cat trying to cover shit on a marble step!

      • Grasshopper says:

        Dee, do you live on the coast or next to the mountains? I was thinking of moving there!

        • Dee in NC says:

          I live near the mountains. Except for the rain- the weather is great!

          • Orwellian States says:

            I live in E TN about 20 miles from Hot Springs, NC. Same problem here. We have tons of tomatoes, but they don’t get ripe — need sun. Onions are ok and we have lots of peas. However, without the sunshine, stuff doesn’t get ripe. My taters don’t look very good, but the sweet potatoes seem fine. Our area is 15 inches above normal so far this year….. wet winter, wet spring and it looks like a wet summer.

    36. GoodDay_2EnterIntoEternity says:

      Thanks VRF (I think it was you), for that link (from previous article) showing that dog being shot by Southern Cali police.

      I showed it to my family. Maybe not such a good idea but it is easier to wake up people and instruct with visuals. My son’s reaction (he is in elementary school): I hate cops! …..I had to sit him down and explain things. Up until very recently I still had the idea in the back of my mind of becoming a LEO but now I am kind of glad I didn’t. Very tuff job, especially in these trying times and it will get worse (for all of us, including them). God, I pray that “the good ones” do the right thing and “serve and protect” instead of becoming uniformed paid thugs.
      2 Things that stood out in that video:
      -The dog owner wasn’t actually doing anything to impede their operation
      -That Rotti pup could teach us all a lesson. That doggie was loyal to the end! Even though it had been shot several times, it still tried to get up and either fight or get back to its owner.
      I am now convinced that “All dogs go to Heaven”!
      Peace out

      • NCClyde says:

        Yeah, GoodDay, the bad LEOs give the other 5% a bad name.

      • Hell , Im looking for level 3 body armor for my K-9′s

        even if I have to make it myself out of a human vest

        like hell if they are going to take out my 4 legged family members.. I aint going to let it come easy..

        Dam cops think they can kill anything they want..bunch of fraidy cats.

        This proves to me , they know we are a force to be reconed with, and they best start respecting our rights, or we might just have to wake them up

        you piss off enough animal lovers and you may have just dug your own grave, careful what you wish for

        My Wife is livid over these senseless cop killing dogs issue.. you don’t want to need her pissed at you, Trust me, I know

      • sixpack says:

        …and all people like that cop should go to hell.

    37. lonestarbugout says:

      Check on all points… done and done. I will say that the whole off grid survival life is harder than you can imagine. It takes practice and perseverance. Can’t make rain though only pray.

    38. oUCH says:

      All done… Anything else ?

    39. braveheart says:

      Brandon, this is the best article I’ve seen yet about our situation. You are especially right about not playing their game. I’ve personally known people who have “worked within the system” going back 5 decades and all for nothing. The system doesn’t exactly lend itself to reform; never has and never will. 2nd American Revolution is the only thing I see that can save this country now. Tear down the existing system and start over from scratch so we can have the kind of country that God intended for us to have. We’ve got to get back to our original foundation. We’re facing a government with some of the worst intentions imaginable toward all of us. For those who are still sitting on the fence, it’s time to get off the fence and make a stand. it’s either stand up and fight or surrender to evil; for me surrender is no option! There’s no guarantee of survival if you submit to the enemy. I may not make it all the way through what’s coming. Any number of things can kill me. but while I’m still breathing, I can and damned sure will do something. NOMI CATIMF BRAVEHEART

      • Grasshopper says:

        Its not just our governement, braveheart, its the whole f— global elite. The other day I heard Biden talk of a new world order. But he almost gagged as he said the words… guess he is not used to some of the shadow government’s new demands.

    40. Watchman says:

      Mountain Dew Dutch Oven Chicken
      ½ lb. bacon
      1 gallon zip-loc bag with 1 cup flour
      2 chicken breasts
      2 potatoes
      2 carrots
      1 large onion
      1 can Mountain Dew soda (Used caffeine free)
      ½ c. shredded cheddar cheese
      Preheat Dutch oven by setting on bed of coals.
      Chop bacon into 1” pieces.
      Dice vegetables.
      Cut chicken breasts in half lengthwise.
      Fry bacon in Dutch oven until crispy.
      Remove bacon from Dutch oven but leave grease.
      Shake chicken breasts in baggie of flour to coat.
      Cook in bacon grease to brown, about 5 minutes, turning a couple times. Pour vegetables, bacon, and Mountain Dew on top of chicken. Cover with lid and cook at 350° for 45 minutes with ¾ of coals on lid. Using tongs or a fork, lift chicken breasts so they are resting on top of vegetables. Sprinkle cheese over the chicken. Cook an additional 10 to 15 minutes. Serves 6 to 8.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    41. Watchman says:

      Dutch Oven Barbecue Meatloaf
      2 eggs, beaten
      2/3 c. milk
      1 ½ t. salt
      1/8 t. pepper
      2/3 c. chopped onion
      ½ c. finely chopped green pepper
      3 slices bread, crumbled
      2/3 c. grated raw carrot
      2 lbs. Hamburger, lean is best
      1 can Coke or Pepsi, caffeine free or regular
      1 small bottle ketchup

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

      • Watchman says:

        Sorry I left this out.

        Mix eggs, milk, salt, pepper & bread until mushy. Add onion, carrots, peppers & hamburger. Mix well and form into a loaf. Place in a hot Dutch oven. Mix 1 can coke and 1 bottle ketchup. Pour over meatloaf and cook about 1 hour or till done. Baste occasionally and serve with extra sauce if desired. This sauce also works on ribs, pork chops, steak or chicken.

        Keep the FAITH
        Watchman

    42. Wallimiyama says:

      I still need to shed some lard…but otherwise, I’ve got the bases covered.

      Good article!

    43. Former Cal Girl says:

      OK now we have this list checked off and more DH and I are reevaluating our budget. Purchases a TV antenna and will cancel Direct TV this month, that nets us another $90.00 per month. New solar and batteries is saving us another 70.00 per month. We need $3700 to add to solar array so we can run the AC, our goal if we make it is to have in place by the Fall. Garden is doing great. We are learning what we need to plant more of, in our case peas and beets, and what to plant less of, radishes. Plan to get chickens this Fall. Backup plan if we do not make it is our neighbors who is into sustainable living just over the hill. Currently buying her beautiful eggs for $1.50 doz. Continuing to work on our physical conditioning, for us this is the hardest. Our age, rain in our area and “gone soft” attitude has been hard to overcome. But, we are determined. Good luck to all.

      • Don’t be too discouraged…Ive been at this along time and sometimes I just want to sell the farm and sit down and be like all the other takers around me…then I wake up and realize Im thinkin stupidly and I couldn’t live like that if I had to …then I thank God for what I have and get right back to it…its a tough life in some ways but the rewards in self respect alone are priceless…you and yours can do it! :)

    44. theglimmerman says:

      These plans are all good advice and I have been following all of them except the part about reaching out to neighbors. I have been awake for almost eight years and started seriously prepping about two years ago and to date, I have only come across one person who is actually prepping. For the most part, talking to people has become moot because in order for people to wake up, they have to experience something earth shattering.

      I tried talking to my first cousin about this type of stuff around four years ago and he became so petrified that I couldn’t even get him to return my phone calls, open his front door, or attend the funeral of my mother, his mother’s baby sister. The funny part is that he is a former martial arts instructor and rifle marksman. That’s how cautious I am about sharing information.

      Unfortunately, as I meet people, I try to gauge how the conversation is going and wait for an opportunity to inject a little piece of prepping/survival info. Most like minded people, if you talk long enough, will divulge some type of information about themselves that will clue you to their interests and concerns. Then, and only then, is when I speak up.

      There is also the distinct possibility that given a crisis, most of the same people that you attempt to openly approach, will undoubtedly sell you out for a meal. I do live on the outskirts of a major metropolitan area, so I have to use good judgement when talking to someone.

      We do have some prepper groups forming in the region but we are too far away from each other to affect any change or bolster opsec in any one of our areas of residence. However, it is my hope that these groups will devise a plan that could potentially bring us all together in a crisis.

      Just my two cents.

    45. Barn Cat says:

      My family and I are prepared. We have a year’s supply of food and water, a way to heat our home and cook our food, guns and ammo, 5 gallon buckets with snap-on toilet seats, garbage bags to line them, and about 50 20-gallon buckets of kitty litter to cover the smell. I’m not talking to neighbors about prepping for opsec purposes. All the people I know think I’m crazy for prepping. I had to go out and buy stuff on my own because my wife’s idea of prepping was to buy a couple of extra cans of food each week and that wasn’t going to do it. My stepson is onboard. He and his wife and child will live with us after the collapse. He and I will take turns guarding the place 24/7 after the collapse.

    46. HisArmsWide says:

      Not to show off but to show you what you can accomplish if you simply give up a few luxury items for awhile and proceed as if you’re life depends on it, because it may-

      Started about 2 years ago, in that time we’ve –

      Acquired a year’s supply of food for the family that has a 20 to 30 year shelf life.

      Acquired 60 days of drinking water and virtually unlimited water for sanitation. 4 different ways to filter the water and 2 ways to collect rain water.

      Increased and standardized our handgun and rifle/shotgun set up so everyone can be armed if needs must and based on their demonstrated abilities.

      Have successfully grown a garden.

      Invested in a pressure canner and canned, so far about 300 quarts of meats and veggies bought on sale or home grown.

      Stockpiled seeds, enough to feed us and then some with plans to rotate them out every 2 years.

      Stored up some kerosene and picked up a couple of lanterns, enough for a couple of hours of light a night for a year.

      Invested in enough solar to keep some amenities going, small tv, dvd player, laptop, tablet. Said devices are stored in EMP proof containers along with solar components.

      Stored electronic copies of all kinds of GTK information on a memory stick that’s kept in the safe (emp proof) at all times. Copies of that information are stored on other memory sticks and stored in short pieces of copper tube capped off in the BoB’s.

      Set up BoB’s and GHB’s.

      Stockpiled ammo that we could reasonably expect to need.

      Stockpiled reloading materials so we can choose which ammo to replace if necessary.

      Learned to ‘extreme coupon’ to get food almost free so we can stock up on every day use items.

      Turned a walk in closet into our own ‘store’ that we go shopping at each night for dinner.

      Engaged two families of like minded preparation and formed a mutual ‘bug out’ and ‘mutual support’ network. We go to the range together, camping/fishing together.

      Joined a group of foragers and homesteader types who very well just might be able to survive on what they can find in the wild. And have tons of knowledge on how to raise animals for food, engage in permaculture and sustainable farming.

      Now we can go back to enjoying life (while keeping up our practice and rotating out stock etc of course)

      It’s very good feeling knowing you’ve done what you can for your family.

      If we can do it then almost anyone can. It meant giving up eating out, no vacations, living with over the air tv, driving 15 year old cars, making do and using things up for a couple of years rather than tossing and replacing.

      Really the choice is everyone’s to make. A little short term hardship as insurance against a short term life in a real disaster or keep on thinking things are going to go great.

    47. Comanche says:

      Excellent article, in both content and contour.

    48. GEO-LITHIC says:

      Well if we’re not getting ready for the SHTF what are we doing on this site preaching to the choir

    49. In this article, the author mentioned the four most basic foods that we need to stock. There is a book called Passport To Survival, by Esther Dickey. This will give you all the information you will need. There are websites where you can look for used books. The one I go to is abebooks.com. I’m sure you all have your favorites. This book has pictures of all the meals you can make with these four basic foods. It is incredible. Drinks, protein steaks, desserts etc. I am not Mormon, but they certainly have some great insight. Please make an effort to find a copy of this book.

    50. When you have time
      Read this

      How did America’s police become a military force on the streets?

      http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/how_did_americas_police_become_a_military_force_on_the_streets/

      very un-constitutional if you were to ask me, but the horse has been out of that barn so long ago

    51. braveheart says:

      Be Informed, good morning, and once again we’re on the same page. I see many of the same things you see every day and I keep thinking the more enraged people become at the system, the worse it’s going to be when TSHTF. It still remains to be seen how many people will stand up and fight; that alone will speak volumes. It still burns me at times what the government’s propaganda organs [corporate media] have done to people’s minds. If you don’t know how to think for yourself, your mind is always subject to conditioning and indoctrination by someone. Most people in this country today don’t have the necessary skills to determine for themselves what is fact or fiction. The “entitlement mentality” is especially irritating to me. When this house of cards finally collapses, all hell will break loose. Anyone who thinks they’re “entitled” to turn my home into Wallyworld will have the rudest awakening of their lives; it won’t end well for them. Now I’m spending every spare dollar I can on supplies. We’re running out of time; I can feel it. Everybody step up your prepping, get everything you can now before these FRNs become useless. braveheart

      • patientmomma says:

        A while back someone on this site posted a link to a manual called “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars”; whomever you are, thank you. I finally got around to reading it and after I waded through the first half of “theory”, it got down to the nitty-gritty of how to turn an entire society into zombies. TPTB have already done what they set out to do. The action for us to begin today to turn it around. For our freedom and the sake of our future generations everyone must do a little something to administer the “anti-venom” to turn this around–even if it is just one person. Read the document and do something. http://www.lawfulpath.com Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

        • JayJay says:

          Read ‘One Second After’–nuff said.
          My husband read it in 3 days. He is a supporter and a helper in prepping for what little he can do.
          He says if anyone reads that book–they will start prepping in a hurry!! ;-)

        • Just clicked on this site that you mentioned. Noticed the name of the book “Operation Vampire Killer 2000″. Someone who’s husband is in law enforcement made a copy of it for me shortly after it first came out. This was the first I had heard of most of what is common knowledge now. It really scared me for awhile.

    52. wolfgang says:

      Of course Brandon is going to downplay OPSEC. He has none.

    53. braveheart says:

      Possee, good morning, and I face all of the same things you speak of in my area every day. I’ve never even spoke to any of my neighbors about what’s really happening or prepping [OPSEC]. I already know they won’t listen, plus they ignore me for the most part anyway. braveheart

    54. slingshot says:

      Good article Brandon.
      I am a long time prepper and the hardest part is getting others on board while keeping OPSEC. That does not mean that I would have them within my circle of defense. I am a loner for the most part as my real partners have miles between us.
      As far a my neighbors? Maybe one has a clue. I dwell on the inconsistency and unpredictability of those that surround my home when confronted with hardship. I know that the compositional makeup of those people, our neighborhood could become a living hell. I have deduced by observation that within two weeks many would be in trouble food wise. Crime would escalate and depending how many home intrusions and such, many would abandon their homes for safety of another domicile. Some could bunker in their homes but without supplies they will eventually come out.
      One other problem is that in the beginning, should you choose to have others within your group, is you should be aware that someone that was unprepared, asking for help and after learning part of the ropes, creates discord within the ranks. Do you banish him, knowing he could come back. Maybe with others. Or Kill him. What would other members think of you then.
      I don’t know if a set of rules to be agreed upon by the group would help in this case. It is hash to mention this but not an impossibility.

    55. lena says:

      i’ve started preparing again.

      i became skeptical it would ever happen over the past 2 years, but when you see governments just taking your money and keeping you from accessing it like happened in cyprus, its just a matter of time before that comes to your doorstep. world govts are in too deep and have taken advantage of the people every time over accepting any responsibility and they have allowed the big corporations to do the same(search a story on banks that are charging fees for their own customers to process/access to thier paychecks).

      i’ve started storing water and gas again and have a rotation plan to keep the supply fresh, have plenty of food and ammo, have started storing cash again so i have some when my bank tells me i cant have any cash until they say so, am buying more candles/lamps and ammo and am watching silver. it’s going to bottom out before things start getting really bad and it shoots to the moon again. when it does that, i’m buying wheel barrows full to barter with; i’m speculating thats at 15 currently.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        When looking at world events as a whole it sort of makes ya wonder how exactly it is that things have not completely unraveled yet, within the USA alone if more people were awake i feel we would have already had some sort of uprising, the political system is completely broken now and it makes me wonder WHEN are people going to say no more?
        Local, state and fed governments are completely out of control and are acting as a controlling monster that people live in fear of, is that what we need to accept? Like hell!

    56. You’re fraking DREAMING about finding two neighbors and one barter partner. Your neighbors will be the first to slit your throat for your supplies!

      You might want to talk about the REAL fact that unless you live with your community, chances are you are going to be on your own!

      you might want to talk about stealth and a low profile, if y ou really want to help people!

      • lena says:

        second that.

        the high majority of people, like over 95% are going to deny a tidal wide is there until they get hit with it and when they do; 95% of those 95% are going to do whatever it takes for them to survive.

        the people who didnt prepare and will accept the responsibility (ie not having access to money to buy medication they take daily or not getting water to drink daily) are going to be rare. when the lights start going out, we will find its still a dog eat dog world.

        unfortunately the USA as it was founded was the best thing to happen in the world in hundreds of years to keep that reality in check for the US and most of the world.(boy, i think i could use a drink)

      • sheptical citizen says:

        Heck I wouldnt trust my neighbors. they have borrowed things and never returned them. One Stole My parents blank check,s from he mail box and went out of town and passed forged checks. In to the point of DTA . Dont Trust Anyone. I dont show or tell nuthin. Let them starve. Its eventually gonna boil down to the survival of the fittest sooner than later. The meanest best fit and prepared will prevail. those neighbors dont have nuthin I need or want and they would have no qualms stabbing me in the back. And family are just as bad. Look at how siblings fight after the folks die. They will be worse in a SHTF situation. Trusting the wrong people will ensure you demise. Look at how sheeple trusting the elected officials has turned out.

      • dave says:

        @ RIC….depends on where you live. Up here people think you are a fool if you dont prep. One bad winter can kill you.

      • incognito says:

        +1 on that Ric. We’ll see what neighbors are still around after a month and then we’ll wing it from there.

    57. Be informed says:

      @ Barn Cat. I found someone could get 3000 hours worth of candles at garage sales for under $20. It amazes me how the total short sightlessness of the common person can be a true money saver for survival supplies for those that understand the importance of it. I found that garage sales are most of the time almost giving away candles as people see tham as clutter taking up space rather than a truly useful item WHEN you need it.

      Other items at garage sales such as coffee percolators you can get for a couple of dollars as people rather have the “fancy” coffee makers and total convenience. A good coffee percolator goes for $50 and up. Wait until the power goes out for a long time or forever. Oh well, the non-prepper won’t have but a tiny amount of coffee grounds stored up anyway.

      As many of these wonderful survival items become “obsolete” in the minds of the truly feeble minded in place of convenience and ease, these items turn up at garage sales selling for 1/8 to sometimes 1/25 their worth. Preppers can take advantage :) of those too naive to see what they have as being so valuable and more than willing to have you take it off their hands.

      • lena says:

        not coffee cans, keep the money under your carpet; seriously.

        if youre just stashing it for armageddon; you dont need it and someone robbing you will check coffee cans, books, etc for stashes of stuff; they are not pulling up flooring.

        you can store metals there too.

        i bet my living room floor is worth more than barbara striesands.

        • dave says:

          Does your fire insurance cover that?

        • sixpack says:

          carpets today just have a 1″ tack strip around the edges. Make sure you press the carpet back down and run your hand across it to make sure it doesn’t look like it has been disturbed. One good place to put things under the carpet is under the sofa or any piece of furniture that you can’t see under. Keep it thin to win.

      • theglimmerman says:

        Man, that’s good advice. Never dawned on me to check the garage sales. Good lookin out. Peace

      • Smokey says:

        Hit a couple of yard sales this week, got a little bit of stuff :

        3 large Tupperware containers, with lids, $5
        1 gallon of WD 40, never opened, $6 ($20 at Autozone)
        Walter Isaacson’s biography of Benjamin Franklin, like new, $3

        Should be good pickings this holiday weekend.

    58. kynase says:

      Excellent article.

      When I was watching the movie “Defiance” the other night about the Jews hiding in the woods during WWII, when more Jews showed up at the camp they would ask, “What did you used to do?” The nurse and watch maker were quite useful. The scholar didn’t even know how to use a hammer. The message is very clear.

      I believe that after the SHTF and the dust begins to settle (month or more later), skills are going to be a HUGE bartering tool. Sure, you can barter anything in your supplies, but I believe a well honed skilled is one of the best bargaining chips we have. In our technologically advanced world most have not had to spend much time learning a trade/craft that would be useful in a SHTF scenario. Most of corporate America wouldn’t have a clue with how to garden or hunt. A majority of useful skills are currently people’s hobbies…but I think it critical that everyone figure out what their hobby/skill is and then determine is it useful in a world that is all about survival, how it can be used/ bartered. If it is not a useful skill, go find one!

      ****Sewing/knitting/crochet, gardening, animal rearing, construction, hunting, outdoor cooking, cleaning/gutting animals, canning, candle maker, first aid/medical person, natural healing (herbs and other plants), mechanic, electrical tinkering person, handyman, teacher (for the children), rocket stoves or solar ovens, tanning, making jerky, leather working, fishing, metal worker, etc****

      These skills now may not be very marketable, but I can guarantee you that an accountant’s skill set will not be necessary in post collapse. People will need food, water, heat (winter and cooking), medical help, light sources and other goods for survival…which item can you offer? If we truly believe in America, in this sort of event we will have to rebuild her as a community. What do you bring to the community?

      If you guys can think of other skills…please list them. It might help others realize what cool tool they have in their survival tool box.

      • sixpack says:

        I’ve got at least 12 of those skills, with a working knowledge of a couple of others.

      • Last summer, the neighbor lady asked my husband to shoot their pig, as her husband didn’t have the stomach for the job. The more you can do for each other now, the more everyone can use their cash for preps.

      • Kevin2 says:

        In the modern throw away world the ability to fix things has went by the wayside for far too many. I picked up a Self Propelled Lawn Boy Rear Bagger Mower that was less than a season old for $25 from a McMansion home a few years back. The throttle cable was stretched because it was apparently hit with the weed wacker. The homeowner was a suit probably employed in banking (there was a lot of that in the area).

        “My dads a TV repairman, he has an awesome set of tools, we can fix it”.

        Jeff Spacoli (Sean Penn) Fast Times At Ridgemont High

      • Kulafarmer says:

        Having a good chemist would be good, and perhaps an astronomer could be useful,
        A doctor who has a tendency towards naturopathy would be good.

      • Mark says:

        How about gunsmith, martial arts instructor, being able to chop wood, having water purification equipment and being able to purify large quantities of water and transport it to where it is needed…

      • Smokey says:

        Animal husbandry, dairy operations, woodlot forestry, tree felling/yarding, supervising labor, safety operations, intensive farming, etc.

    59. Satori says:

      since we’re talking about candles/preps

      Lamp Oil and Wick Burn Time

      http://www.alpharubicon.com/primitive/lampoilburntime.htm

      a few stats that will help you determine how much you may need to store

    60. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      New MAN MADE CDC / WHO Tick-Borne Illness Could Be Worse Than MAN MADE U.S. ARMY Lyme Disease

      http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/new-tick-borne-illness-could-be-worse-than-lyme-disease/49488

    61. Satori says:

      the US government

      “doing the STASI proud”

      U.S. Postal Service Logging All Mail for Law Enforcement

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/us/monitoring-of-snail-mail.html?_r=0

    62. frank says:

      Well guess I am going to be dead. Due to associating with some stupid people 35 years ago when I was 18 I am no longer able to exercise my 2′nd amendment rights. So with no firearms looks like I will be dead meat. Have all the other things squared away and other means to defend myself but if someone starts shooting I will be gone unless I can get them first.

      • I have a crossbow. Are you able to purchase one of those?

      • dave says:

        @ frank… I know what I would do.

      • Boss Hog says:

        @frank, a couple of options for you, Benjamin air rifles, these things are not your average air gun, this aint no “red rider bb gun with the compass in the stock”(Chistmas Story) nope a buddy of mine took two coyotes with it this winter and plans on deer hunting with it in the fall. Another option is black powder guns, up here in the Green Mountains we love our muzzleloaders they give us a few more days to chase Bambi around. I have it on pretty good authority that fellons are allowed to use black powder breech load rifles, you best check your States laws on that though. One more thing have you ever checked out “the slingshot channel” by Jorge Sprave on youtube, he may have exactly what your looking for. Dont forget there is allways more than one way to skin a cat.

    63. Watchman says:

      Taco Soup
      2 lb hamburger
      1 onion
      2 t. garlic, chopped
      6 t. dry chicken bouillon
      6 c. water
      1 can Ro-Tel tomatoes and green chilies
      1 can diced tomatoes
      1 pkg. dry taco seasoning mix
      1 pkg. dry ranch dressing mix
      1 can corn
      1 can black beans
      1 can pinto beans
      8 oz mild cheddar cheese
      12 oz. bag Fritos or Doritos
      Brown hamburger, onion and garlic in Dutch oven. Drain grease from hamburger if it was not lean. Add bouillon, water, tomatoes, dry mixes, corn, and beans. Bring to boil, stirring occasionally. Simmer for 20 minutes. Serve into bowls lined with chips and sprinkle cheese on top with extra chips on the side. Y: 8 servings.

      WAKE UP CASSEROLE
      8 frozen hash brown patties (or enough to line the bottom of your Dutch Oven)
      4 c. shredded cheese
      1 lb. cubed ham (2 c.)Or cooked sausage or bacon – your choice
      7 eggs (Add more if using a larger oven)
      1 c. milk
      ½ t. salt
      ½ t. dry mustard
      I like to line the Dutch Oven with Foil and Spray the foil with Non-Stick Cooking Spray. Put hash brown patties in bottom of Dutch Oven. You can also use diced (loose) hash browns, sprinkled in the bottom of the oven about 1/2 – 3/4″ thick. Sprinkle with cheese & ham. In a bowl, beat eggs, milk, salt & mustard and pour over patties. Cover & bake 350º for 30-40 minutes depending on the size and temperature of your oven. Uncover, bake 15 minutes longer. *If using a larger oven, adjust all ingredients.

      Sloppy Joes
      1 ½ lb. ground beef
      1 medium onion, chopped
      1 stick celery, chopped
      2 ½ c. tomato juice
      2 T. soy sauce
      2 T. Worcestershire sauce
      1/3 c. vinegar
      1/3 c. sugar
      2 T. flour
      Hamburger Buns
      Brown meat, onion & celery together in Dutch oven using 20 coals on bottom. Drain grease. Add tomato juice, soy sauce, Worcestershire sauce and vinegar. Remove enough coals from bottom to achieve a simmer; let simmer a few minutes. Stir together flour and sugar and stir into simmering meat mixture. Cover and simmer until thick, stirring occasionally to prevent burning. Serve on buns. Y: about 6-8 servings. *Recipe can easily be doubled.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    64. incognito says:

      Thank you Brandon. Bravo!

    65. CWinOR says:

      For the first time in my life (at least since I was old enough to remember) I will not be celebrating this 4th. of July. Celebrate the boots on our necks? Celebrate the disdain and contempt they view us with? Celebrate the way they wind us up like little toy soldiers, through all their social experiments and engineered pressures to make us constantly at each other throats and so busy just trying to eek-out an existence that we take our eyes off of them? I think not. No. I won’t celebrate the 4th again until America 2.0. I have a feeling- it won’t be long either.

      • BlueH20 says:

        CW:
        America is an Idea. Celebrate that.

        Don’t take this too personally, because I have been hearing the same griping from others and not just this year or even just on the 4th.

        Even back in the day,in England, starting about 900 years ago or so, people chafed under the divisions between the elite and the rest. The complaints were about the same: labor taxes,crop tithes, death taxes, hereditary elites being above the law, excessive regulations, corrupt judges and sheriffs, summary judgements, secret hearings, confiscations, unjust wars for profit.

        About every 100-120 years or so, the peasants and the merchants got fed up and had to rebel and the end result in every case was a few more demands for liberty and equality wrested from the throne and the nobility. BTW, all those monarchs and nobles were just the descendants of successful marauders who took what they wanted by force. With each advance in equality, people began to be more critical and advance more radical ideas: jury by peers, representation, a governing council of those representative peers. The revolutions began to occur more often, every 20-30 years. That was what Jefferson was referencing with his own admonition that nations had to have a revolution every 20 years. One generation wins freedoms, the next takes it for granted and their children have no idea it was hard-won and begins to lose it.

        These are human ideas. Not just American ones. The Americans stood on the shoulders of all those who had come before them, in England, for at least 800 years or more.

        Centralized authority with extraordinary powers is also a human idea. It held sway for thousands of years in every place on earth.

        The totalitarians would love for us to forget, to stop celebrating, to grumble alone without fellowship or support. Remembrance and reverence for our War of Independence is an act of resistance. If we don’t celebrate, the idea itself will go dormant and eventually die.

        We are never going to be free of wanna-be dictators and thugs. We need to put them in their place regularly. It is sort of amazing that today, with world-wide instant communication, so many simply accept authority imposed upon them. Still, there is a lot more awareness than these sorts of articles and the constant barrage of fear-mongering would admit.

        An English peasant from the 12th century would be joyous at the freedoms a good portion of the globe and especially those in the West, enjoy. Not even to mention what they would think of our modern technological life. We are soft and spoiled and many are too lazy to do anything about whatever infringements are enacted upon us. But many are not going to give up what has been hard-won over and over again by humankind, our English cousins and our American forebears that easily. Anyone can go sulk while enjoying a level of lifestyle and freedom undreamed of even 80 years ago.

        We are putting on fireworks and will enjoy them. It’s a skill and, remember, fireworks are derived from armaments. The main difference is the charge, the aim and the target.

        If we all go sulk in our corners because humanity isn’t perfected yet, we will all die suffocated by an ever-increasing weight of chains. Celebrating the fact that men and women can be free and have fought successfully to be free makes us more likely to remember the worth of freedom.

    66. Eisenkreuz says:

      Instead of thinking only about your own ass, think of ways to regain our lost country.

    67. RICH99 says:

      Blah…blah…blah…..its been the coming collapse for 5 years now…..COMING could mean any time frame between tomorrow and 100 years ……we aren’t any closer today than we were in 2008

      • RICH99 says:

        All the STUPID ASSED losers who gave me thumbs down are OBVIOUS RETARDS ……instead of a thumbs down ……PROVE ME WRONG ASSHOLES !!!!!!!

        • Wow Rich…you really don’t like people disagreeing with you…do you? Jeez!! I didn’t give you a thumbs down for your 1st comment, but I am giving you a thumbs down for the atrocious name calling. It’s uncalled for…you must really be on edge!

    68. ScoutMotto says:

      I need to shed at least ten pounds. Got the small spare tire, but I don’t even like having that.

    69. I was feeling Frosty today, so I’ll give you this..yep its long, yep its off THIS topic , but its important to know where and why our history is such

      why you say?

      Independence day is Tomorrow

      You all have a safe and good one with your loved ones..

      Me and Mine have target practice tomorrow at 0900

      Peace

      The Evolution of Liberty Leading to the United States Constitution

      From time immemorial royalty has asserted Devine Right. The evolution of liberty and the declaration of the self-evident truths that all men and women are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights is the English struggle for freedom from abusive monarchs. This evolution, as manifested in our Constitution, dates back to at least the year 1100 in Ye Olde Merry England. Our founding fathers had founding fathers.

      1100 Charter of Liberties
      The 1100 Charter begins the transfer of liberty from royalty to the people. When King Henry I ascended to the throne he issued the Charter which set the stage for the rule of law and constitutionalism. Henry I also promised relief from excessive taxation. Two clauses in the 1100 Charter sprouted the seed of liberty.

      • Barons and the king’s men are not above the law
      • Heirs shall not be forced to purchase their inheritance

      1215 Magna Carta, or the Great Charter of English Liberties
      The Great Charter, signed by King John at Runnymede, continues the evolution of rights, and explicitly states that their heirs shall hold the same. The people, rather than the king, are now inheriting rights.
      • The king is subject to the rule of law
      • Taxation only through a representative council
      • Accused must have a credible witness presented for prosecution
      • Due process of law
      • Trial by one’s peers
      • Justice cannot be purchased nor delayed
      • Punishment in accordance with the degree of the offense
      • Church is free to act without royal interference
      • Rules for marriage, dowry, inheritance (to avoid royal confiscation of estates)
      • Standardized weights and measures throughout the realm (a pint is a pint!)

      1628 Petition of Right
      The House of Commons issued this petition to King Charles I, which again clearly states that the freedoms are inherited.

      • Taxation only with the consent of Parliament
      • Forbids quartering of soldiers and sailors in private homes
      • Forbids enacting compelled loans upon the king’s subjects
      • Forbids proclaiming martial law in a time of peace
      • No one is above the law
      • Forbids arrest without charge
      • Due process of law and trial by one’s peers
      • Writ of habeas corpus

      1641 Grand Remonstrance
      The House of Commons issued this petition to King Charles I that contained a long list of grievances against the king. Concurrently the Long Parliament began its session, leading to the Triennial Act (Parliament is to meet at least once every three years, with or without a king’s summons). Examples whereby the king continued to act as though he had Devine Right are listed below.
      • Abuse of war and peace for personal gain
      • Forced loans or imprisonment
      • Excessive and unlawful taxation
      • Forest laws and excessive regulation to control the people
      • Abuse of merchants and the shipping industry
      • Abuse by crown monopolies

      • Currency manipulation
      • Secret courts; unauthorized courts; cruel punishments
      • Intimidation of lawyers
      • Selling of offices and titles
      • Favoring one church over another
      • Parliament dissolved; members subject to illegal search and imprisonment

      1689 Glorious Revolution and the English Bill of Rights
      “Glorious” because it was a bloodless transfer of power from King James II to William and Mary. Parliament asserted the ancient rights and liberties that had developed since the 1100 Charter. A century hence, these rights are mirrored in our founding American documents.

      • Crown cannot suspend or create law without the consent of parliament
      • Unauthorized courts and commissions are illegal and pernicious
      • Taxation only by consent of parliament
      • Right to petition for the redress of grievances
      • A standing army in time of peace only by consent of parliament
      • Protestants have the right to have arms for their defense
      • Free election of parliament
      • Freedom of speech and debate in parliament
      • No excessive bail, nor excessive fines, nor cruel and unusual punishment
      • Right to trial by jury of one’s peers
      • Fines and punishments before conviction are illegal

      1787 United States Constitution
      Our republic’s founding document by which the assembled States of a United America created the federal government. In 1787 the citizens of the new American States knew their history. The Constitution was written, in light of centuries of royal abuse, to limit the government’s power. We inherited the rights enumerated through seven centuries, 700 years, of English struggle for liberty and the freedom to live under a government of the people, by the people and for the people.

      Love my country, watching my government
      ..why not, they are watching us

    70. anonymous6.8 says:

      Brandon dude,

      sitting on your ivory throne … come back when you are well into (or past) your 50s with your prescriptions of how physically fit we all should be.

      I have neither the physical fitness nor the skills to play Army Ranger when the game begins. I don’t intend to.

      I have or am most of the things on his list. I plan to sustain and defend mine and me. To be as helpful as I can to family and friends without unduly endangering myself.

      I have said here twelve or fifteen times I am prepared to die to defend my life and liberty.

      The increasing tyranny of Amerika has been set in motion since at least 1913 if not 1861. It is being done by lawful authority under “color of law.”

      If 20 years ago they rolled up to the Jones Family and said, “Folks, we need your stuff. This piece of paper authorizes it …” The Jones Family and everyone else would have laughed in their faces.

      Generations of Amerikans have been dumbed down. The average mall crawler can tell you more about the local NFL team or what’s in the latest issue of Vogue than they can tell you about the Bill of Rights. (Which most of them have NEVER read).

      Even if we were not spied upon 24/7, even if there were not thousands of tyrant suckups who pride themselves on infiltrate and report, organizing any kind of resistance beyond what one family can do would be difficult.

      I believe that no large number of people will “wake up” until they are hungry. Until there is no television plug-in drug to pacify themselves.

      Between being dumbed down and fat ass comfortable, few people have the independence of mind to even consider actively resisting.

      So Brandon dude … when YOU have actually DONE some real resisting, as The Band of the White Rose did against the Nazis or the Viet Minh did against the French,
      beyond running your mouth online,

      THEN you come back here with your patronizing bullshit about what WE should be doing.

      • Fuck Yeah! says:

        Sign me up in this guys squad.

      • BigB says:

        Well Mr. Smith, anonymous6.8 makes some very good points. I for one would like to see your response, that is if you have a credible response?

        BigB

        • dave says:

          @ Big B…The only point anan 6.8 has made is that he (and some others over 50 years old) is not physically fit from dumping cheeseburgers down the piehole or by “old age”. I am over 56 and can keep up with 95% of the hikers/backpackers/hunters out there. Because I don’t have any health problems, I stay in shape and weight train as a part of my prep. That was also one of Brandon’s suggestions. Yes Brandon is green, but light years ahead in prepping than most. He has posted articles to HELP people prep. You and Anon6.8 have yet to post anything constructive.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        Good post bro,
        The dumbed down masses swilling beer and jumping up and down in front of their big screens are scary, when things start unravelling they will sell us down the river for a can of soup.
        Trying to find others who are even willing to say they will use force to protect their family let alone do it, never mind banding together to form a unit for any sort of combined protection is almost impossible, and even if you do find them what will roll out when the flames start burning?
        Self reliance first, everything else is iffy at best, i dont know Brandon from Adam and he isnt my neighbor so this stuff is all nice reading entertainment to keep in the files of the mind but when TSHTF any and all things could happen, so nothing is gospel and nobody is a savior.

    71. CrabbeNebulae says:

      Just put up another 18 (yes eighteen) quarts of awesome, thick tomato juice yesterday. That makes forty so far this year plus a couple batches of tomato’s. Have another 40# in the den room and tomato’s on the bush for some tomato sauce next week. Tomato’s are doing really well this year. Eggplants are doing good too and so are the chili peppers. Wife made two very large pans of eggplant Parmesan this week and last week. Awesome stuff!! Have to freeze it or eat it though since I haven’t figured out how to can Eggplant Parmesan. Hope the power doesn’t go out, I’d hate to lose such a good thing.

    72. nunurfuckinbiznes says:

      only thing i disagree with in this article

      20 pounds of fat = 3300cals x 20 = 66000

      if you consume 2000 cal ration per day, your gonna burn up about 800-1200 more cals via, moving around, engaging in hard labour, thinking, preparing your meals, gathering fuel, tending cattle etc etc etc…

      so at 2000 cals a day you have about 2 months of fat on you, if your taking it easy…

      factor in bugging out, hiking 20 clicks a day, surviving night time temperatures, AND or getting sick, and you have less than a month of “easy to carry calories”.

      you can still weigh 300 pounds and have half decent endurance… for “stressfull situations”

      since i dont comment here often, i want to make this clear.

      i am in canada, the situation we face is global, violence is indeed a threat to us all, but your main concern and worry should be starving to death.

      you can duck all the bandits you want, duck all the armed camos you want etc…

      but mark my words if you do not, take it easy, ration your easy to carry calories, right from the start… you wont make it six months let alone 1 year… and my bones, and my eyes after reading for years and years, tells me we are going to be rationing for YEARS.

      certainly someone else has noticed the irony of the media feeding us images and pushing us to want to be skinny, trim and what they consider to be “fit”…

      believe me when i tell you, that if you dont have 30-40 pounds of extra easy to carry cals on your body, your putting yourself in the same death zone that every person who has suffered from the media taking hits at their insecurities.

      skinny people, are at risk of starving or dying of malnutrition first… anything less than this realization is denial… your food can be confiscated… they are not gonna cut your belly fat off…

      having fat on your bones for winter or heaven forbid, famine… is natures way of keeping your asses alive…

      so you dont think this is completely nuts… ive recently conducted a personal experiment… because everyones fat loss is different.

      i put myself in a sub rural area for two weeks… the first week, i dug a fire pit, which turned into a fox hole, the second week i put in six rows of potatoes, 1 row of spin, and 10 good pea plants…

      in two weeks at 1750-2250 cals per day and min of 35-40 grams of protien i lost 10 pounds…

      those two weeks did not include running for my life… walking 20 clicks for a new stash, or any type of fighting…

      I WAS TOO RUN DOWN to do anything other then the two tasks id accomplished. and piss poor i might add…

      ————————————-

      i hope you all read this, because at my peek of fitness i was 174 pounds, my matabolizm allowed me to eat anything i wanted, i stopped working out to put fat on… and it took two years to get myself to 260 pounds…

      i can tell you with absolute certainty, that the extra 60 pounds i put on, over my target ideal weight… wont last six months if i ration… especially under stressfull situations requiring me to run my ass off…

      fatten up… you can still run a mile if your over weight… and these cock suckers would like nothing more then to cheaply starve the lot of us out.

      the above goes doubly for women… cause if they get prego… and there starving… well.. thats a nightmare no one should have to live through…

      pack on your easy to carry calories. and stop listening to these manipulative cock suckers telling you how you should feel about yourself.

      and remember there faces… that kind of info will come in handy… end game…

      good luck.

      • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

        above tasks where by hand with a shovel for the record.

      • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

        also forgot to mention i was gathering fuel and doing all the basics etc…

      • dave says:

        While putting on the extra pounds, do cardio for 45-60 minites 5 days a week. Otherwise that Forced 2 mile run might be your last.

        • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

          no thanks, you want to bank on out running a bullet, art shell, or a car filled with ms13, be my guest.

          after a week of rationing in hell on earth, no ones running 2 fucking miles…

          why dont you try it out… go ration for 2 weeks, and engage in manual labor digging a trench or something… then run… with a 10 pound rifle, rounds, and a day bag…

          i could see it maybe, if all you had was the rifle… but not with full ruck and a bad assed attitude…

          seriously… dont you try shit out before you commit your life to it?

          i bought a magnesium fire starter one year, and another the next year, thinking i was good for fire forever now… thankfully i test everything out before i commit my life to it… guess what, one of the mag lighters was a nock off… wouldnt even spark to life under a flame… the other one actually cost less, and worked just like its supposed to…

          yea… i dare you to hike your matabolism up so your forced to consume even more of your ration so you could theoretically out run a threat…

          lemi tell you something else… if SHTF i wouldnt be running or hurrying anywhere… id be watching every god damn step i took, my head would swivel like beatle juice looking for threats and snipers…

          lulz… go ahead… run forest… and dont trip over anything and fall into anything sharp…

          cant believe how movie educated people are… were doomed…

          • dave says:

            I am just across the border from you. How about we meet @ trailhead 44 and I will show you how its done. I can back up my mouth/typing with action. we wil have a good time as there is lots of small lakes to trail blaze up and down to. I can bring a extra blackhawk for you to carry as it might be hard to get one across the border.

            • dave says:

              I should add I agree with you on the RUN part, what I mean is a double pace up the side of a mountain using game trails. It will give anyone a heart attack that is not in condition within a 1/2 mile or less. Thats what the cardio part is about. To evade quickly when you cannot evade slow and quietly. See you at the trail….Dave.

              • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

                good good, glad we are clear on that one, because i hike 8-20 clicks regularly with a 40 pound ruck my dog and predator protection (usually see atleast one grizzly or blacky when im out not including the 1 ton plus moose), all kinds of trails here in the mountains… as far as im concnerned the 60 pounds i put on is just added ruck weight… sometimes i even throw on ankle weights to work my feet more.

                short sprints cover to cover is all you need, and that doesnt mean running 2 miles, because like i said… no ones running 2 miles after rationing in hell on earth for 1 week or even 2 weeks… there gonna be too run down trying to accomplish there basic needs dave…

                much as i would like to meet up with someone else of like mind, id really like for you to go out for a week or two, and see what bugging out would really be like, no running water… etc… then go for a run at the end of it and tell me how you feel. your either a super athlete to be able to do so afterwords or completely full of man shit.

                even full combat geared grunts with 40-70 pound rucks dont run 2 miles with it all on, but bare in mind they recieve a 2800-3100 cal ration every single day. even if it is a shit MRE x2-3 (1100 cals or so each).

                try that shit on 2000 cal rations… and half the protein your supposed to get as a male (60 grams if your male)

                *chuckle* gotta wonder why all those poor bastards during the depression, first and second ww receiving at most 1800-2000 cals a day wheren’t running marathons.

                matter of fact… the science of nutrition was born of those hard times… they just couldnt figure out why people where still dying after getting a couple lumps of bread.

                practice practice practice…

                or when the shit hits the fan dave, it will be your first time experiencing that kind of hardship…

    73. DollarstoDonuts says:

      THE EGYPTIANS HAVE DONE IT! Brave souls!

    74. DollarstoDonuts says:

      THE EGYPTIANS HAVE DONE IT! Brave souls!

    75. Brandon Smith says:

      @Anonymous

      Sounds like someone took the issues presented in the article very personally. I’m sorry that you’re not fully prepared “Anonymous”, I’m sorry that you are apparently fat, and I’m sorry that you have a thin skin. But, the fact of the matter is, you are a perfect example of bad survival philosophy – all excuses and no action. I know many 50-plus year old survivalists who take care of themselves and handle their business, rather than pissing and moaning about how old they are and how “dumbed down” our society is.

      You claim to be ready, but if that were the case, the article would not have struck such a tender nerve. I believe you are comfortable in the squalor of your unprepared life, and the article made you feel ashamed of this, at least for a moment. Then, because you would never openly admit the problem, you decided to make me the problem. This is not about me.

      I stick my neck out everyday doing what I do. My face is all over the web, and my position has never changed nor will it change regardless of the mounting pressures. Make no mistake, people like myself and many of my friends in the Alternative Media are at the top of the list. We know we are at the top of the list, and we still continue to attempt to wake up and prepare people like yourself, who are still all excuses despite the gravity of the situation.

      Try this on for size – how about you write two 2000 word articles a week every week for 8 years, put your face and your real name on them instead of “Anonymous”, speak at rallies across the country, and then you can tell me whose place it is to make judgement calls on the state of the Liberty Movement.

      • Grasshopper says:

        Right on, Brandon! And I fully agree–being fit, healthy, strong, mean and lean will help that person survive a SHTF situation a hell of a lot better than slothful fatties.

        • Sanctimonious1 says:

          Brandon,

          What do you do for a living — you know, a paycheck?

          Exactly.

          • Brandon Smith says:

            @Sanctimonious

            I’ve done all kinds of work in my life, mostly construction while I honed my writing skills, but now I run web content for liberty movement websites, which is not something you make much money doing.

            What do you do, and what is your point?

            • Sanctimonious1 says:

              @Brandon

              Wow! I am humbled to receive a personal reply. I respect your writing and I appreciate what you do. Personally, I found it beneath you to reply to Anonymous in the manner that you did. The point of my question was in the last paragraph of your reply to Anonymous.

              Brandon, You are an author, a speaker, and a respected voice in the Liberty movement. The reason for this is you write good stuff and have important things to say.

              If I were your manager, I would advise you not to respond negatively to personal taunts online. It takes a bigger man to walk away. Let it go. Look where a fast finger has gotten Alec Baldwin. It is beneath you.

              What do I do? Not take my own advice often enough.

              Now, what was it Tommy told the cop in Goodfellas?

            • KY Mom says:

              Brandon Smith,

              Great article!

              Thank you! Your writing educates and encourages many of us who seek self reliance, liberty and freedom.

              Take care!
              KY Mom

        • slingshot says:

          He just lay there like a slug. It was his only defense.

          “A Christmas Story”

        • I am a fatty but I don’t think I am slothful. Call me big boned with a lot of padding.

      • anonymous6.8 says:

        @ Brandon dude

        You don’t know one single thing about me, Brandon dude.

        Assumptions are like assholes. Difference with you is you are an asshole at each end.

        As far as you being an “alternative celebrity” that and half a brain will give you a life.

        Per one of the other poster’s comments, does being a fear monger pay well? Do you have groupies? Sit for group photos when the survival celebs gather?

      • Kulafarmer says:

        @Brandon
        Keep up the good writing Bro,
        I like the fact that you and others like JWR stand up and dont hide behind a pseudonym,
        Hope the weaters bein good to you up north,
        ThomasR aka Kulafarmer
        Fear no man

        • Night breaker says:

          Brandon , keep writing the great articles keep us all actively discussing our opinions in the end we learn from everyone , all knowledge is useful, it is up to the individual to determine what is right for them.
          When it all comes down, when the “Rubber Hits The Road” what we expect to happen and what we think will be the solutions may be completely different to the reality of coming situation.
          Remain Adaptable , Use your common sense , learn the basics , KEEP IT SIMPLE ,
          Nothing is guaranteed in this life your decisions and choices determine your own personal outcome. Very few of use have really experienced a true life or death decision in the complete chaos of a war zone, it is not something anyone of us are capable of predicting the out come of, it simply is, it simply happens how we individually deal with its determines the end result.
          My biggest fear is events will be like nothing anyone of us can possibably imagine or completely prepare for.

          Learn, Prepare, Train .
          Resist , the spirt of 1776 is our Heritage.

          Semper Fi 8541

      • Brandon….great response and even better article! Pay no attention to the naysayers-I don’t!

      • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

        i fail to see how a pissing contest helps either of you…

        50 year old, act your age.

        brandon, old men will always goad younger men into defensive statements, reason being it hurts there reputation…

        you do good work brandon… dont fuck it up by getting defensive and “in fighting”

        work together… or divided you will fall..

    76. dave says:

      Anon 6.8. He has made some good suggestions aimed at the newbees. You have made none except criticize.

    77. DollarstoDonuts says:

      Bloomberg has banned SPARKLERS!

    78. Son of Liberty says:

      While I strongly disagree with some of the negative comments stated by some, I do find a disheartening repetition of the ‘same ole, same ole’ that has been posted over the past few months, even years. I would appreciate hearing from someone who has newer, relevant, up-to-date information regarding all the nonsense that is taking place across the U.S.

      When we get hit with all the rehashing of the same thing, copying of another’s articles, etc. – I fear it causes many people to dismiss the truth of the ’cause,’ and write us off as people who are out of touch. Which, is NOT the case; though we may not know how to express it, nor search for new or additional information to substantiate our ’cause.’

      PLEASE PEOPLE, let us do some deeper research, and be original thinkers – not just regurgitate the ‘same ole’ stuff everyone else does.

      Blessings

      • CLOSED says:

        GONE FISHING.

      • JayJay says:

        SofL..it’s good for the newbies–I know many newbies check in all the time.
        Just because we been getting ready for a collapse for years, doesn’t mean all reading this site are ready or anywhere near ready! ;-)
        Peace, brother and may love be the light that guides us through the darkness–cause you can look the other way, but that won’t stop it–it’s coming!!:-(

      • CrabbeNebulae says:

        @Son of Liberty “I would appreciate hearing from someone who has newer, relevant, up-to-date information regarding all the nonsense that is taking place across the U.S.”
        Here’s what I see… The restaurants all seem to be filled to capacity, the night clubs and bars are full, McDonald’s is booming, the race track is filled to capacity every weekend, there seem to be more 18 wheelers on the highway than cars, construction is booming, the concerts are playing to sell out crowds, firecracker business is booming despite the Bloombergs of the world, grocery stores are packed with people and food, and everything looks like it is hunky dory except on sites like SHTF. There actually appears to be shit hitting the fan all around us but nobody is paying attention. I’m beginning to think we might be able to ignore ourselves right out of this shit… LOL

        • JayJay says:

          {{The restaurants all seem to be filled to capacity}}
          Not here–small restaurants in surrounding towns have closed–I can think of 5 in the last year.
          At Logan’s Steak House one Saturday AT lunchtime there were only 2 other tables with diners.
          Mickey D’s is busy because parents are not serving nutritious fresh veggies and fruit for their kids–I spent $4 for a bag of apples(counted 7) Tuesday and didn’t buy any other fruit. Krogers was out of my reach, no bags, just priced per piece!!! and I ain’t destitute!! :-)
          Ahh, more 18 wheelers because we can’t go anywhere due to gas prices??
          Construction is a total zero here–craigslist has all kinds of bartering jobs including plumbing, carpentry, masonry, electrical, landscaping, etc…..

    79. cabinfever says:

      Ugh. I have so many mixed emotions concerning this time that we are living in. I used to work for a guy back in the late 90′s. He put one face out to the public of being a laughing, light-hearted big guy. And he was. But he was also immature and had a mean side that few people but the ones closest saw. After three years I quit…worked for someone else briefly and then started my own business (turned into his competition) I closed the store after I saw 2008 coming on the horizon. Cashed out. Mended fences with him a few years ago. The guy hunted and fished…had two places up north plus his house in town. Kind of a prepping guy without even trying. He died last week. Tragically. Life is short. You have to be able to meet your maker on any given day. My husband cares more about his golf cart and his boat than prepping. We are not prepared. I’ve told him for years we need to be. It’s extremely frustrating to say the least. I will probably die in my house. I believe we are on the edge of the cliff that is the Tribulation. I believe my Lord is with me. That is the biggest prep you can have. I applaud those of you who are prepared. Pray for us who are not, through no fault of our own.

      • Mark says:

        cabinfever,
        Golf and fishing are fine pastimes, but a man’s first duty, allegiance, and attention in this life should be to his wife. Don’t know you and don’t know your situation, but “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”

        • cabinfever says:

          Mark,
          It’s just a strong case of denial. I have tried to talk to him about this for YEARS, to no avail. He started talking to his boss and then turned around and did one of those, “Did you know…?” Yep, I did honey. I’ve been trying to tell you and until your boss started trying to get you to wake up – you wouldn’t listen. We moved and had friends that were of like-mind but…the husband got it more than the wife did. The man who died left behind family that will be fine. His two daughters can hunt and keep up with the best of them. But my husband has chosen to be asleep at our own peril.

          • patientmomma says:

            cabinfever, If you haven’t already, suggest you begin canning and dehydrating some food and storing water. Go to the nearest range and take a lesson or few with different guns; when you find one you can handle and feel confident with, buy one. If your husband can’t/won’t provide or protect you/children in your family, the responsibility lies with YOU. I’ll pray for you but hon, you need to get yourself in gear and do what you can. The fact that you read this blog tells me you got some spunk, so come on cabinfever, get your game on!!

        • It's a start says:

          husband can provide fish with his boat and birdies with his golf clubs.

        • JayJay says:

          I Timothy 5:8….Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
          Look to the Bible, cabinfever….

      • DollarstoDonuts says:

        Wow, Cabinfever, we’re in the same boat!

    80. PO'd Patriot says:

      Hope we don’t get a bank holiday that starts tomorrow……

    81. Snot Rag says:

      I am sicker than a MoFo! Snotting, hacking, coughing, chills, aches, pain.

      Is there any of that deadly flu crap here yet?

    82. Dyna Chrome says:

      off topic, sorry.

      J.W., Rawles’ http://www.survivalblog.com seems to be down hard,even using IP address. “http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com” shows it is down for everyone. Any info on this?

      Thanks.

    83. braveheart says:

      VRF, your post #1859328 is right on target and fits right in with the topic; not off topic as far as I’m concerned. With everything that’s taking place and the tensions running so high, I have the same feelings as the people who took part in the Battles of Lexington and Concord. I’m feeling the way they did before they even mustered. All it would take now is a strike of the match. braveheart

    84. Grasshopper says:

      At least he fishes, cabinfever… that’s good! You probably won’t go hungry!

      • cabinfever says:

        No, the former boss fished. Damn good fisherman. RIP. Husband and son went to the Boundary Waters a few weeks ago but I wouldn’t categorize him as an avid fisherman. They ate lots of fish…but he only goes every 5 years or so. But he is capable. What’s coming down the pike at us very few will survive. They’ll make everything illegal.

    85. Lone Stranger than the Truth says:

      Everyone is so much on edge, so well armed and so primed that all TPTB need to do after whatever ‘stimuli’ they have planned is to pull back and watch the fireworks.

      It will resemble ‘The Purge” more than it will “Red Dawn”.

      Large cities would be unlivable (and inescapable).

      Suburbs may survive a little longer and rural folk will fare the best.

      When the gov’t will step back in and in what capacity(foreign troops would be the most likely scenario) is unknown.

      If the ultimate goal is population reduction, the widespread rioting, ignored by our ‘peacekeepers’ will thin the herds in the mega-cities swiftly.

      If there are other agendas beyond that, they will be revealed in the weeks after the initial bloodletting. Roundups, precious metals restrictions, weapons collections, stripping of food stuffs, etc., will be imposed after the atrocities. By that point, many will welcome intervention with open arms. No John Waynes. No Rambos. Just like the house-to-house in Boston.
      Some grumbling, some nasty blogging but no real resistance.

      By the time pockets of true resistance spring up, the job will be half done. Contain them and cut off the food supply like Hitler did in the ghettos and all but the heartiest will fall in a matter of weeks.

      Everyone reading this is saying “Not me! I’m going out in a blaze of glory!” Sure you are.

      Do you think two guys are going to show up at your door at noon and ring the bell? Or is it more likely that you will be swarmed at 3AM by 20+ federal agents? Or worse yet, conscripted ‘brown shirts’ with no regard for your life?

      When the fight finally comes, it will be interesting to see who will do the fighting.

    86. wally says:

      challange accepted

    87. Steve says:

      One important item not mentioned is a portable backup hard drive, or flash drive with encrypted copy’s
      of all your important files. check out
      listeningtokatrina.com, it’s a bit of work but worth it.,

    88. The Verdict knows says:

      Trayvon gonna get all you white man… just you wait and see.

      • yental says:

        This “cracker” can’t wait. Bring it on NIGGERS. (I can be called a cracker, or whatever, without consequences, then I fully intend to make WHATEVER racial reference I deem appropritate)

        Especially the HNIC!

        Was that “politically incorrect” enough to garner further scrutiny from the “assigned trolls” and GOOBERMENT monitoring retards?

        I’m assuming sarcasm from The Verdict…but “Frankly Scarlet, I don’t give a damn” either way. And I am not representative of the true and average prepper. So any “all inclusive assumptions” about the “contributors of this site” ARE ON ME ALONE! ;), have a wonderful “used to be independent day” celebration.

        Fly the “Stars-n-Stripes” upside down. If you don’t understand the meaning of this action…GO BACK TO SLEEP! Better yet, WAKE UP!

      • Steve says:

        Trayvon was unsuccessful getting one Spanish dude,
        It seems he was a victim of his own stupidity and arrogance,
        So put that in your crack pipe and smoke it.

        dip shit

      • Anonymous says:

        Trayvon WAS a hood.

    89. Satori says:

      freedom born in Boston
      freedom died in Boston

      Some Americans Abandon July 4 Celebrations Over “Outrageous” Security Measures

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/some-americans-abandon-july-4-celebrations-over-outrageous-security-measures.html

      They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
      Benjamin Franklin

      just what exactly is Boston gonna celebrate ???

      I suggest we get rid of the 4th of July
      and start celebrating
      Police State Day

      Boston has given the whole US a bad name
      and makes us look weak and afraid
      maybe we can get them to secede and spare us further embarassment

    90. Yankee Doodle says:

      Here’s a challenge to everybody on this blog. I did this last summer with my wife. It was no joke. Want to see what you are really made out of, try this. Go two days without using any running water from your house or dwelling or any gas and electricity. Use only what is available to you in your household. This will give you a clear understanding of just what you will be up against when the SHTF.

      Try cooking and washing with water you have previously stored. Use your skills to build a fire or use what is available to you to cook your meals. Going to the bathroom will be a real eye opener, and disposing of the waste properly will prove enlightening.

      Hygiene will paramount, this is where your imagination will be stimulated. You will find that most of the day is taken up by thinking of what you have to do and how the hell you are going to do it. I promise you these two days you will remember the rest of your lives. It will be the hardest and most uncomfortable two days you ever spent on this good earth. It should by all means give you the incentive to start prepping big time right now. To be foretold is to be forewarned.

      I love to hear the feedback on this topic from all those who tried this out. Good luck.

      Peace Brothers
      Yankee Doodle

      • No fun test run says:

        I’m melting!

        Seriously, who the fuck would want to spend a weekend doing that?

        • Boss Hog says:

          Anyone serious about evaluating their capabilities would do it but probably noone would “want” to.

        • Yankee Doodle says:

          Armies all around the world play war games they simulate actual war time conditions as close to war as possible. The reason they do this is to find and correct any flaws in their tactics before actual war begins so they do not have to learn as they go during actual war causing untold hardships and causalities.

          This is preventive maintenance. During these exercises you will find out what works and what doesn’t work, what can be done smarter and faster and what not to do at all.

          The same can be applied to prepping and getting ready for the big event. I don’t know about you but I have 3 years Army training and 20 years backpacking experience under my belt. But I still find new and better ways of doing things than I did years ago. Their is always room for improvement. I have no intention of trying things out when the SHTF.I want to know what works and what doesn’t before hand. Yeah, I like my weekends too but that’s just the difference between you and I.

          Peace Brother
          Yankee Doodle

          • You convinced me says:

            OK. I will drag the barbeque pit and a cooler full of iced beers out in the back yard and see how things go for a few hours this afternoon. Got a bunch of skewered up beef, chicken and shrimps that have been marinating and need cooking anyway so I will take your advice and give it a try.

            Peace out.

      • nunurfuckinbiznes says:

        i did two weeks my friend… first week i accomplished everything you stated with 2x 5 gallons of water only, i rationed water…

        the only reason i could use so little water is because 2/3 of my meals came from pre packaged rations. if you read my comment above you will see what else i did that first week, and second week as a manual labor challenge…

        and for the record, your absolutely right, most of your time is consumed thinking about how your going to get your basic needs accomplished…

        it is an eye opener, and i highly recommend you all get your practice in… if you go to a range to shoot… why wouldnt you practice this???

        water rationing

        2L per day for drinking… 3L per day if engaged in manual labor…

        1L per day for dishes… water is re used for toilets or other nasty jobs requiring liquid.

        2L every 2 days for a grungy sponge bath… and it will leave a film but you will be clean of germs and rashes…

        there you go… 1 week 1 person 2x 5 gallons, hopefully you have a little left over like i did…

        but that doesnt include laundry if you noticed… that requires 2.5 gallons of water per 1 set of cloths if you do one soap agitated shake up in a bucket with one rinse after you ring the soap water out…

        i can do the above until i run out of laundry soap… then you have to get creative… in lamens terms, take more time to get clean…

        and still… people think there going to be bad asses, running two miles when they need to… scanning for threats… pfft… yea whatever… aint no body a bad ass running 2 miles with a chapped ass from lack of hygiene…

        • dave says:

          In my terrain, nobody is going to be Running at all.

        • dave says:

          Last hike, my buddy’s gps battery went dead so we used my compass. I use a plastic canteen, he uses a hydration bag. When ever he had to fill up (we both use filter/pump) he had to drop his pack and open it to get the bag out to refill. His clothing cost 3-5 hundred bucks. Mine is M1950 wool (50$). That leaves me with alot of $$ for other stuff. My new Merrill gortex boots leaked. Got to test everything and make adjustments. Winter snowshoeing, I bent a collapsible walking stick that cost 60$, now I have solid ski poles from the thrift @ 5$, and they dont bend (yet).

        • JayJay says:

          I do take sponge baths with one inch of water in the tub–seeing how it feels.
          I do not use the a/c here, even when 80 in the hallway and I cook outside as much as possible esp. with no a/c on.
          I dry ALL my clothes on a retractable line on my covered porch.
          For those interested, my freezers went 9 hours with no electricity Tuesday—all inside was fine…the ice I keep for Gene’s cooler didn’t even stick together.
          YMMV. :-)

      • Night breaker says:

        Yankee doodle,

        Already did that it was called hurricane Sandy.

        Good point! test your preps and equipment before you have to use it in a high stress environment.
        Found quite a few holes in my preps and plugged them.
        I.e. portable solar panels more rechargeable batteries . Better night vision gear (which arrived one day before the storm! Gen 3 pinnicle tubes rock on a PVS 14.)
        easier to prepare foods that can be cooked on alternative heating sources.
        MORE WATER STORAGE ( instead of 2 -5 gal military containers , purchased 5 more, already have water purification capability.

        Semper Fi 8541

      • kynase says:

        I kinda have no choice….my AC is dead and we can’t afford to fix it. lol

    91. Dyna Chrome says:

      @the verdict

      “Trayvon gonna get all you white man… just you wait and see.”

      Trayvon, the ‘no limit nigga’ is kind of dead, so how’s that supposed to happen?

    92. braveheart says:

      Thank you, VRF. I hope everyone here has a safe and happy Independence Day. I, for one, will be indulging in fireworks and BBQ. braveheart

    93. braveheart says:

      The Verdict Knows, y’all better just forget about that idea if you know what’s best for you.

    94. braveheart says:

      I just tried survivalblog.com and couldn’t get through either. Even by typing the name into the search engine and clicking the link on the search page, still no go. They’ve had DNS attack previously. Might be the case again.

    95. CelticNana says:

      Excellent article. I would add waterproof matches (lots of them), vitamins, candles, flashlights and batteries, water purification tablets and ibuprofen. There are going to be lots of headaches in this brave new world. We have these, and more, in bug-out bags and in a cache. I imagine most people who visit this site already have these things and more. And Brandon, if anything is going to make me lose the 25 extra pounds I’ve been carrying around for years, it is this article. There’s no point in arguing about if it’s coming, who’s to blame, who’s prepared and who’s not, who’s lazy, who’s over-the-top. It’s going to happen – I know this in my bones. Do whatever you can, given your means and situation. However small a community we “preppers” might be, we may be the last hope, so polish up those tinfoil hats and get ready for the coming days. Misneach, fianna.

    96. Watchman says:

      Quesa Noche’

      6 Flour tortillas 1 Bell pepper
      1/2 lb. Cheddar cheese Salsa to taste
      1 Onion

      Cook tortillas over medium heat in pan. Sprinkle chopped onions, bell
      peppers and salsa over one half of tortilla while it is cooking. Then
      put cheese over the same half, on top of the ingredients. As soon as the
      cheese starts to melt, fold the untouched tortilla half over to make a
      half circle. Turn the quesa noche’ over until the cheese is melted. Then
      serve with more salsa.
      ** Option **
      Add sliced black olives, mushrooms, leaf spinach, or the meat of your
      choice to change the flavor.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    97. being uninformed says:

      fickin kooks the lot of you.

    98. Watchman says:

      BUG OUT BISCUIT MIX
      6 cup flour
      1 Tbsp. salt
      3 Tbsp. baking powder
      1 cup shortening
      3 Tbsp. sugar
      Mix dry ingredients thoroughly. Mix in shortening with fingers until mixture is the consistency of fine gravel. Makes about 7 cups and will store at room temperature in a tightly sealed container for up to 3 months. To use, add 1 cup of milk and 2 Tbsp. of butter or margarine to 2 cups of mix. Stir until blended. Knead until smooth and elastic. Shape into biscuits and bake in hot Dutch oven or cardboard oven until golden brown and doubled in size (about 15 minutes). Makes a dozen.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    99. Watchman says:

      CORN BREAD
      1 cup corn meal
      3 tsp. baking powder
      2 cup flour
      1 egg
      1/2 cup sugar
      1/2 cup shortening
      milk
      Combine dry ingredients. Add shortening and egg. Mix well. Add enough milk for a medium batter. Pour batter into foil cake pan. Bake in a hot Dutch oven or cardboard oven until done (about 15-20 minutes). A toothpick will come out clean when inserted in the center. Serves 6-8.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    100. Watchman says:

      BEAN SOUP
      2-1/2 cup dry navy beans
      10 cup cold water
      1 meaty ham bone
      2 Tbsp parsley flakes
      1 med onion, diced
      1/2 tsp salt
      1/2 cup diced celery
      8 whole peppercorns
      Wash dry beans. Place beans and water in large bowl and soak overnight. Don’t drain off water. The next day combine beans and water, ham bone, salt, and peppercorns in a 12-inch dutch oven. Cover and slowly bring to a boil. About 12 coals on top and 12 under the oven works well. Simmer for two hours, stirring occasionally. Then add onions, celery, and parsley. Continue to simmer another hour or until the beans are soft. Clean meat off the ham bone and discard the bone. Serves 6-8.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    101. Watchman says:

      DEADHORSE PANCAKES
      3 cup pancake or biscuit mix
      3 eggs
      3 cup milk
      3 Tbsp. vegetable oil
      Put all ingredients into a large container with a tight lid. Shake until well mixed. Heat griddle, pan or inverted Dutch oven lid until a few drops of water “dance” when sprinkled on it. Rub cooking surface with a small amount of oil on a thickly folded paper towel. For easiest results, make 3-4 inch pancakes. Bigger pancakes are impressive, but harder to turn. Cook on one side until it is full of bubble holes. Turn and cook until the second side is golden brown (2-3 minutes). If bubbles do not form properly, the batter is likely too dry. Serve with butter or margarine and syrup or jam. Serves 6-8.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

    102. braveheart says:

      Yental, I agree with the sentiments, but I’m not in any hurry for TSHTF. I don’t think anyone here really is. I’ve been on razor’s edge ever since Election Day. The day after was when the gun grabbers started talking all their trash and, voila, everyone went out panic buying weapons and ammo. It really started accelerating in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. I haven’t found very much ammo to buy in my area in the months since then, although I already had a good stock before the election. I’ve especially been on edge and more sensitive since the 2 attempted home invasions at my place back in May. If I had not been armed with SOMETHING…..you get my drift. I’ve been hearing some talk about riots in my area and right in the middle of a city, the belly of the beast, so to speak. Let any animals come to my place for any reason, it won’t end well for them. NOMI CATIMF BRAVEHEART

      • anonymous6.8 says:

        braveheart,

        Several months ago there were two attempted forced entries here. 0557 and 0315, two weeks apart. After the second I left a note, You Try, You Die beside a spent 6.8 cartridge taped to the entry point. They haven’t been back.

        Perhaps you asked yourself the same question I asked. Is this the common criminal or is this somebody else wanting to come in for a look around? They do that, ya know.

        But probably only to celebrities like Brandon dude.

    103. braveheart says:

      As of this time survivalblog.com is still down. They’ve really been hit hard with something.

    104. Anonymous says:

      What day is it Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike?

      It’s HUMP day…

    105. think about it says:

      all you dumb asses,,,,none of you morons are going to land in my front yard in their badass chopper and tell my kids that they are important….NNNOOO …the morons who landed are not important,,My kids are……YENTAL…DPS….ARIZONA…SLAVO…BRANDON SMITH,you worthless fags will kill all just like..JWR…….

      • Quisp says:

        I just may land in your yard… what planet are you on?

      • MayBeSo says:

        @ think about it,

        Ahh!!

        More Gov-Trolls!! Delightful!!!

        “Think About it”? Are you sure?…it appears you do not exactly have the actual capacuity for rational thought based on that aserttion…

        Give it up asshole. Move on…no one here gives a FUCK about what you have to say…your WORDS – are here – “Without EFFECT”…Buh-bye!…you’ll be ‘fertilizer’ soon enough (hope you enjoy decomposing!); the simple consequence of your monumental, moronic stupidity….. REMEBER: DEATH does come to the STUPID; it’s JUST Nature’s way, after all. :)

        Have a Good Fucking Day, shit-head! ;)

      • twit says:

        you drink to much

    106. Satori says:

      talking about ways to survive the collapse

      What Attorneys Are Saying

      http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=57080

      “All in all, tax attorneys are seeing what everyone on TBP is seeing – the system is in collapse, freedoms are being ripped from the people, and that responsible, productive people are scrambling to protect what they have earned as they believe that a massive confiscatory movement is underway, and if they do not act soon, their assets will be taken from them, and business is jumping ship at increased pace as they believe they are being targeted.”

      more and more people jumping ship

    107. mike prince says:

      More questions than answers. I read your article with much thought. I am newer at this than most of your readers, though my last satire post on previous article may indicate otherwise. Perhaps you or your readers can address some concerns of mine.(1) Hard red winter wheat. I’ve heard this before,however no knowledge of how to prepare it.Nitrogen sealed 5 gallon buckets, but then what? Do you grind it,etc.
      (2)Cache? I’m a locksmith who stays in the work van most of the day. I have a water resistant container with MREs ,freeze dried food and about 50 pounds of miscellaneous . The area I live in L.A. , California already has people digging thru the trash for food. Cache where?
      (3)Police in Long Beach casually walk past child prostitutes but do nothing. If you get attacked the police just give a attitude, unless you defend yourself, then your the problem.I speak from experience. Who will defend me against the police. ( I was pulled over because of reading map, checked to see if I was drinking – I understand. The police called in my ID and found I had a registered ap-9 hand gun. It was not in the car, but gave him the right to strip equipment out in the street and was told to leave as not a good area. I asked if this was nessassary and was told “you got a problem ?” Keeping my nose clean I’ve had more problems with police than any gang-bangers. And no it’s a tough job is NOT an excuss (4) Time to move?

      • MayBeSo says:

        @ mike prince,

        You’re on track there mike…Wheat, of ALL variety’s must be “ground to flour” before it can be used for bread and baking. Years ago, it used to be the case that you would take your grain to a ‘Miller’…there, usually next to a stream of water, there would be a “Mill’ where they had a pair of millstones, turned by the flow of water through the stream…remember seeing “historical” pictures of big ‘water wheels’ in various places? THAT WAS how THAT was done ‘in the day’.

        Today, you buy a small – usually stainless steel grinder (either hand-cranked – hard! – or electric), and do it yourself. The ‘nitrogen sealing’ is a bit more involved, but it can be done. In ALL food storage schema’s the OBJECT is the removal of the Oxygen from the food…either by replacement (substition) or direct removal via “Oxygen Absorbers” which can be had at a wide variety of places, including Amazon. Near everything that we associate with ‘apoilage’ centers on the oxygen present slowly ‘conbusting’ the food you are trying to preserve…make sense? There are other things involved as well, especially for meats which tend to degrade due to the presence of enzymes – both naturally occuring and also those generated by Bacteria. THAT is EXACTLY the principle behind ‘pressure canning’, which uses heat and pressure to deactivate those enzymes which are present and to KILL any bacteria which could produce more of them, leaving a ‘sterile’ volume in which the food to be stored is safe from harm…for a while.

        The stoty you tell is becoming more and more familair to many people in a lot of places in the country; the ‘system’ – based on STUPID principles…read as ‘self-deeating principles’ – is slowly “going inssne”, and that is why you ‘see what you you see’ there…the object for any rational person now is to NOT BE there when it gets FULLY that way…LA?…BAD Place to LIVE Brother, actually..the WORST place I can imagine A funny thing though…ome here have pecualted that it MSUT have something to do with the ‘salt-air ocean breezes’ since the ‘fly-over tates’ DON’T have that particylar problem – the INSANITY that is – except, of course for Chicago and Detroit…which HOPEFULLY, we’ll be able to REVOKE thier statehood’s soon…we DON’T WANT them anynmore!!…Don’t WANT stupid people around us anymmore…LOL!

        Hope that helps a bit, there are others here who can ‘chime-in’ as they read though your post here…some are Bona Fide “experts” at this stuff…Good Luck…GET the FUCK OUT of Cali while you can – them Folks, out there, is the STUPIDEST of ALL of the rectum’s in this country (NOT including yourself!), if possible!

        • MayBeSo says:

          EEK!

          Boy..no more LATE NIGHT typing for me!…I’m DANGEROUS, apologies to everyone for the typo’s above…

        • JayJay says:

          I have flour (and pancake and cornmeal) in mason jars, vacuum packed using the oven method or a vacuum sealer using the accessory function.
          I am using the flour and it is from 2008 and 2009.
          It seems fine. I know, only 4 years, but I am NOT storing wheat.
          I used stored flour from the 5 gallon buckets and didn’t see any difference.

        • mike prince says:

          Thank you for reply. More to think about. “The more you know the more you know how you need to know” I found hand grinders on line, now to learn to cook with it on camp stove or other arraigement. Book title on this would be helpful. Hard wheat, dry pinto beans seam to be a must have. As far as moving I realize that this should be done before the skat hits the fan, giving time to fit in to a different society. If a dumb city raised member of the clueless can figure this out, just maybe there is SOME hope.Guess I should remove welcome to California, now go home bumper sticker. Just like the people out here with I heart NY or don’t mess with Texas stickers. Not too smart.

      • Former Cal Girl says:

        Definitely time to move….I know…check my name.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sweetypie, you can’t be serious about questioning whether or not you should move. If the answer is not obvious to you, then you’re either too dumb to help or you’re a provocateur.

        Just a comment on the cops whistling past the child prostitutes as you describe…

        There are more people in this country now, as in all third world countries, than the economy can support. We have had a permanent underclass for many years. Those child prostitutes are part of it. They also, in all likelihood, are the products of single girls being paid by our genius government to have babies. (Genius is being used with full sarcasm. The government leftists who designed and enacted the welfare benefits for single mothers knew precisely what they were doing and what results they would get.)

        Locksmithing is an honest, necessary way to make a living. Problem has always been that there’s only so much demand for a locksmith in a population. Essentially, one full time locksmith can be supported by a town of no less than about 12,000.

        Will we ever eradicate the welfare system for doing nothing other than having an illegitimate child? Not until or unless one of two things happen: either there is a complete economic collapse and everyone goes down except the very, very wealthy who have taken steps to preserve their capital, or, there is a complete overhaul of our government and essentially all leftists are removed from office at the local, state and national levels.

        I wouldn’t want to be a “baby momma” during the next few years. And if I were one, I think I would do everything possible to conceal that fact. I have seen the extent of cruelty and viciousness used by some of these people who call themselves part of the “Patriot Movement.” They don’t think with a full load of bricks. They have brainwashed themselves and each other in their own little isolated social tribes to such an extent that they cannot be reasoned with and they have become extremely dangerous beings controlled by their emotions. There is nothing “patriotic” about their actions or lifestyles. Most of them treat women on par with the Taliban, other than dousing them in acid for wanting an education. And the vast majority of them are, at base, losers who mismanaged their farms and lost them, or didn’t have the skills to advance in their job and got let go, or got themselves a bad reputation in their community and lost their business, or somehow in some other way screwed up their lives and are looking for someone to blame and for a source that will rejuvenate and maintain their sense of self-esteem. They band together and make themselves feel like big men again. They are dangerous and they are to be avoided if this country goes down the tubes in a big and devastating way.

        Y’all have a happy 4th of July and remember what really happened on this day.

        • Slick One says:

          If each baby momma were forced to receive the norplant contraceptive after the first bastard ghetto child was shat out it would create a huge saving for tax payers.
          Norplant prevents conception for upto 4 or 5 years after implantation, interrupting the yearly mo baby = mo check problem.

          • Anonymous says:

            Or, how about required sterilization upon application for any type or level of welfare benefits for a minor child? This would be Stage I of a change in benefits that would see Stage II consist of a complete cutoff of benefits for baby mommas after 12 months. That, as I see it, is the most humane method of solving the problem.

            A civilized society has a safety net for those who truly require public assistance. The problem that now exists is that the welfare system is open to far too many people who really should be the problem of their own family, in whatever form that family exists, or even does not exist. Becoming a baby momma must stop being a career.

            The disability benefits program also has gotten out of control and recipients as well as new applicants need to be far more closely scrutinized, with loafers weeded out. Apparently, the qualifying rules have been relaxed to such an extent that almost anyone can qualify, thanks yet again to the leftist legislators who have filled the ranks of our representation because the rest of us left a vacuum to fill. That vacuum formed because politics became so dirty and so personal.

            All of this is only so much hot air, however, unless or until some catalyst forces a monumental change or a complete breakdown in the ability to pay benefits.

      • PLEASE: Do not grind all your wheat berries into flour!!! Whole wheat will go rancid pretty fast. It does not smell good. Only grind up what you can use in a short period of time. It will last longer if you put your ground four into the freezer but not many people have that much space there. Keep it in the berry form as long as possible. Will stay good in that form for years. Another thing, you can also plant the berries in dirt. Friends of mine in AK homeschool their children. One of their projects was to plant some, put in the sunny window and watch it grow. Then as it got to be about the height of grass in your lawn, they cut it, I think with scissors. You can put it on salads or if you have a lot, grind it up. I have heard that wheatgrass is extremely good for you. There is a book called “The Wheatgrass Book”, by Ann Wigmore. Have to admit that I haven’t read it yet. Before we retired we bought a lot of stuff when we had the money. Lots of things that I haven’t read or done yet, just waiting for some time. Another thing I know about red hard wheat is that it is the best for bread making. Others are for pasta, pastries, etc. Wish I could help you more.

    108. It took a 3 day power outage at 105° to get my husband on board, now he understands and agrees with being prepared. With everything going on in the world why wouldn’t anyone be? Especially the absolute basics.

    109. Watchman says:

      I WILL celebrate this day. Just as those before us chose this Fourth day of July as their Independence Day against tyranny, I too am declaring this day, July 4th 2013 as my family’s Independence day against oppression and tyranny, against taxation without representation, against all the Elitist’s in this world, and ANYONE who schemes to take away the freedoms we are provided by in OUR CONSTITUTION!
      Patriots stand up and in one voice tell the whole world want IT means to be FREE! Stop the TYRANNY NOW; once and for ever. Enough is Enough. To ARSMS and TELL them to STOP NOW or take their best FIRST SHOT, because it’s over for them. Yes Watchman will be the First in the line, then who will be with me.

      Keep the FAITH (III) (NOMI)
      Watchman

    110. GoodDay_2EnterIntoEternity says:

      Thanks Satori, for that link to the article on the Oathkeepers site (Good 4th of July reading!).

      I had never really been on that site. Also interesting interview on there where Stewart Rhodes interviews the National guard guy (along with a group in his unit) who refused to confiscate weapons during Katrina. I did not know Stewart was an ex Army Airborne soldier. My last assignment in the Army almost 20 years ago was in an Airborne unit at Fort Bragg (although I myself was Not a paratrooper)….and it feels like it happened just yesterday. Man, life happens in a blink of an eye. Enjoy it while we can.
      Happy 4th! ….Hats off to all of you Wings (AirAssault as well) who are loyal to the constitution/Bill of Rights and loyal to the country and the “common everyday folk”
      “AIRBORNE SOLDIERS LEAD THE WAY!” :) …Sorry, just had to say that.
      Makes me want to put on my US Army “Army Strong” t-shirt and go for a little jog with the pups (In rememberance of what the 4th of July should really stand for).
      Other 4th of July articles I read this morning that some might find interesting to read and share with others:
      (1) from the spiritdaily.com site: “TALE OF TWO COUNTRIES: SUPREME COURT ACTS AND NATION REACTS AND FIRES GLARE”
      (2) from the globalresearch.ca site: “The Breakdown of The Rule of Law: America’s Descent Into Authoritarianism”

      God Bless and Peace Out all

    111. SmokinOkie says:

      In recognition of the diminishing liberties in America, we shall observe this holiday by standing in the exercise yard and waving a cold, rusty wire from last year’s sparklers. For five minutes we will softly chant patriotic slogans such as ‘See something, Say something’ ‘Hope and Change’ and so forth. We will then return to our barracks in camp and behave ourselves.

      (meanwhile, the tunnel digging goes on….furiously!)

    112. KY Mom says:

      God did not take Noah and his family OUT of the flood. He took them THROUGH it.

      14 Questions People Ask About How to Prepare for the Collapse of the Economy
      (The Economic Collapse blog)
      This article was posted here at SHTF in August 2012

      • MayBeSo says:

        @ KY Mom,

        What’s the phrase I’m looking for here?…Oh, I got it!

        “Astute Observation”, M’am. I think that was trying to ‘channel’ “JustOneGuy”, hope it came out right…Gee, I miss that one…

      • dave says:

        @ KY mom. I read the article… Alot of people live paycheck to paycheck. They cannot buy PM’s, payoff their house, move to the country, keep 3-6 months income stashed in a safe they cannot afford to buy. There have been quite a few articles like this. Perhaps they should be published in a investment mag or web site for upper middle class folks. Brandon’s article is focused toward a reasonable goal of preparedness. Except for his last article where he had 4000$ worth of rifle, at least half of his suggestions are obtainable. Most of us will have to work with what we got to survive. Living in a large city is bad, but most cannot just sell the house, and make the wife and kids move to the sticks (I did). They have careers and family holding them back. Brandon’s articles are aimed toward rural prep. Perhaps a journalist can write a few on the folks stuck in the city. Focusing on caching food in the yard with food grade sealed buckets, guns under the driveway slab accessable through the automatic sprinkler valve box, etc. Then another one on apartment caching. That would be a difficult one. All aimed at keeping the dirtbags from getting your stuff, because if the GOV, not the local PD, wants to find something, they have the equipment and technology to do it. I just dont think they will waste the time/resources to get 100lbs of rice, beans and a gun.

    113. GoodDay_2EnterIntoEternity says:

      Hi Mike Prince
      I am not too far from you in North OC. I understand exactly what you mean. I grew up in N. OC and although not a “real bad” area as the bigger cities near by ….I learned early on(as soon as I started driving) that in my dealings with the police, I had to make sure my hands were always visible to them in order for it to be safe for me. Keep in mind, I have a “squeeky clean” record as they say. A couple of times I have been stopped, and the police seemed disappointed that my record was clean (to be honest though, I have also been stopped by “good cops” who could have written me up for something minor, but they gave me a free pass).
      I am in the same dilema as far as “heading for the hills”….lots to consider and think about. I think as some of BI’s posts mentioned, a big EARTHQUAKE would be very crazy around here and something to definitely plan for in the near future.
      *Note: I remember growing up in this area, the only homeless person was an older gentleman living under a bridge and some of our family would take him food, etc. Now I drive to work, and on the way I see some of the local parks have become tent cities. There is not one day where I am not asked for money just going to the grocery stores, gas stations, or exiting the Freeways (It SUCKS cuz I have to dress accordingly in an Office environment but I am living “check to check” just like everyine else…….I get the eery feeling sometimes that I am being eyed …..Sort of what like the lamb feels like while on the wolf’s lunch plate). :(
      Peace out

    114. braveheart says:

      Happy Independence Day everyone! MaybeSo, I just caught your message about ZeroHedge. haven’t tried Rawles’ site again yet.

    115. braveheart says:

      Everyone, as of right now, survivalblog.com is still down.

    116. braveheart says:

      Unfortunately, the following article describes my feelings on this particular July 4th: http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/07/it-just-doesnt-feel-like-the-4th-of-july-when/

    117. SHTF ASTHMA TREATMENT!!! says:

      I have had asthma for 15 years…always coughing up junk. Yuck.
      I could barely speak.
      Give this dry rock salt inhaler a try.
      I don’t have any more “lung butter” yuck coming up.

      I love this site and all you guy rock.

      So if there was a SHTF situation….if you have asthma…you would not be able to get to the store for your asthma med.

      Get one of these.

      I took a zpak antib. then used this things and continue to take my asthma med. Advair. This combination seemed to work for me.

      I’ve had the antib before. and is just changed the color of the lung crud…but it still came up in buckets. nasty.

      Give this a try…it lasts a few years and you just breath with it for about ten minutes a night.

      I noticed just some salt crust on the inside of my lips with scrapes off.

      The salt seems to mess with the microbes in your lungs and it stops the histamine reaction…so you are not drowning in your own fluids.

      I wish you all well and great health.

      I found out about this when researching geo engineering… chemtrails.
      They are spraying nano aluminum and barium to simulate ozone.
      Haven’t you noticed you don’t here about the “Ozone hole” anymore on TV?
      The sky is no longer TRUE blue. There’s tons of metals falling on us and we’re all breathing this shit. The science paper, had a foot note reference to the salt pipe inhaler to treat the population for asthma as a result of their “global dimming” spraying of metals.

      Here’s the link my prepper community friends…..I hope you give it a try or tell a friend about this this. I feel ten years younger and my wife is an RN and very happy that we found something that lets me be the strong husband she married in her youth.

      http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GJQQ9O/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=glocodgui-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000GJQQ9O&adid=0V6QH2AYYFDYZN9K92P4&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalcodeguild.com%2FStore%2Ftabid%2F104%2FDefault.aspx

    118. Satori says:

      it was bound to happen

      July 4: Obama to exhume, posthumously hang Paul Revere for spying, treason

      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/07/july-4-obama-to-exhume-posthumously-hang-paul-revere-for-spying-treason.html

      (satire,but just barely so)

      can you imagine how things would have turned out
      if in 1776 people like Obama,Bush,Boehner,Feinstein,Pelosi
      and McConnell were around ???

    119. Be informed says:

      I wish we had JustOneGuy to tell us what is happening on the Sun’s eastern side, as there is a real cluster of sun spots rotating into a direct Earth hit from any potential solar EMP X-flare. Look at this on space weather photo of the Sun on the left hand side on the picture.

      http://www.spaceweather.com/images2013/04jul13/interest.jpg?PHPSESSID=ieim4trgpqe5406o17l2d5knv1

    120. slingshot says:

      I will not be celebrating this 4th of July.

      Why should I? After all is it not just another day to eat lots of food and drink copious amounts of adult beverages. Set off fireworks and waves flags. If you ask why do you celebrate today you will get an answer of, It’s Independence Day. Then ask, Independence from who?
      Tough questions. Then ask.
      Who was?
      Nathan Hale.
      Nathaneal Greene.
      Patrick Henry.
      Benjamin Franklin.
      Benedict Arnold.
      Francis Marion.
      Von Stuben.
      John Paul Jones.
      Lafayette.
      Samuel Adams.
      Betsy Ross.
      Molly Pitcher.
      Paul Revere.
      How many battles or events of the Revolutionary War
      can they name?

      Lexington.
      Concord.
      Bunker Hill.
      Boston Massacre.
      Yorktown
      Saratoga.
      Trenton.
      Monmouth.
      Valley Forge.
      Bon Homme Richard.

      Can they fold OUR FLAG and display it correctly?
      Can they tell what each stripe, star and color means.

      “Don’t give up the ship”
      “We have not yet begun to Fight”.
      “Give me Liberty or Give me Death!”

      All hollow phrases with no meaning to many today. We have failed to hold tight our Liberty and it has fallen to the ground to be trampled upon by Tyrants. Like many wars they were fought long ago. To be forgotten, excluded and replaced by more political correct interpretations of History today.
      As for The American of today, with all his Flag Waving.
      He might as well be waving a Russian Flag.

    121. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      American police now “Israeli-DHS trained,” precursor to dictatorship http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/10/255432/us-police-now-israelidhs-trained/

    122. Satori says:

      well said Slingshot

      WELL SAID

    123. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Homeland Security agents conducting ‘top secret’ July 4 drill http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/312229.html

    124. NeoIsolationist says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUxGjOVgMcU&feature=c4-overview&list=UUEo9S5mMQ7z4n7ZiuUoBFRw

      Please look at this. 13 minutes. Fellow’s name is Lt. Col. Roy Potter. he is retired. I started watching his youtube channel after the Boston Bombing. He’s pretty good.

      This is a possible angle, which he theorizes the TPTB could use as a pretext for martial law.

    125. kynase says:

      For all of you out there…whether you believe in God or not, this is a powerful verse straight from the Bible:

      “The nations are in chaos, and their kingdoms crumble! God’s voice thunders, and the earth melts!” Psalm 46:6

      Happy 4th of July…and remember, no matter what happens, He will watch over all of us…even the people who don’t believe our under his watchful eye. :) Let that fill you with some sort of peace and you prepare for the hard times to come.

    126. Satori says:

      The Bill of Rights:

      The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

      Congress of the United States
      begun and held at the City of New-York, on
      Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

      THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

      RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

      ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

      Note: The following text is a transcription of the first ten amendments to the Constitution in their original form. These amendments were ratified December 15, 1791, and form what is known as the “Bill of Rights.”

      Amendment I

      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      Amendment II

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      Amendment III

      No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

      Amendment IV

      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      Amendment V

      No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

      Amendment VI

      In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

      Amendment VII

      In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

      Amendment VIII

      Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

      Amendment IX

      The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

      Amendment X

      The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

      • MayBeSo says:

        Here, here Satori…

        I hesitated to post the whole thing…I’ve got a series of linkds to the DOI, Constitution and BOR coming through now…let everyone who hasn’t seen them in a while see them ‘in thier full Glory’, you know? Thanks!

    127. MayBeSo says:

      @ Eveyrone

      Seeing as it IS the 4rth of July, you all might find these interesting…For those of you who haven’t looked at these lately, perhap a refresher would ‘do ya good”.

      The Declaration of Independence of the United States of America, (English)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Independence

      The Constitution of the United States of America,

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States

      The Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States of America,

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights

      Have you all seen what is going on in Egypt?! THAT kinda makes me ASHAMED to be an American…them people, doing “IT” better than WE do now…hint, hint!

      Looks like we could TAKE A LESSON from THEM…the links above are YOUR RIGHTS people…take them BACK, NOW. This is YOUR Country, not the Country of the Corporations, not the Country of the Federal Government …OUR Country…”We the People”!

      It’ getting about time to remind the ass-holes just “Who IS in Charge.” Do it..or die; the choice is yours.

      Here’ a starting point: Compel the Feds to RELINQUISH all Federally owned/managed lands into the hands of private Citizens…then we can stop this rape of the oil and other resources of this Country ‘for the good of the Corp’, it definitely ISN’T doing US any good, now is it?

    128. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      There is a gathering electoral storm – Nigel Farage MEP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEewCS9exzI

    129. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Nigel Farage on “wholesale, violent revolution” in Europe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZap5n3zGZ8#at=28

    130. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Students DESTROY NSA Recruiters Over Illegal Spying and Lies (Listen) http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/students-destroy-nsa-recruiters-over.html

    131. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      QUICK CALL THE ZOG DHS HOTLINE …

      Gerald Celente Unleashed

      time to restore america

      celente calls for a armed uprising

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsVtwz4coK0

    132. brrrpp says:

      Jose can you see, the Drones early flight
      what so proudly we hail the freedoms last gleaming
      Whose tattered stripes and dim Bars, though our Meager fight
      O’er the Freedoms we watched were so Silently Leaving
      And the Fizzle of Red Communism
      The Chemtrls Permiatng the Air
      Gave Proof through the night that our flag was not there
      O say does that Torn Banner Still wave?
      O’er the Land of the Fraud and the Home of the Slave

    133. New York says:

      Thanks for your work. I most definitely grieve for what has been slowly, openly, covertly, stealthily transpiring for many decades here in the United States of America which has also been laced with many, many distractions and “Feel Good Media verbiage, hype and repetitive brainwashing.” I have been watching, listening and observing since I was a little girl.

      Unfortunately, my husband thinks that I am ‘crazy’ and to him everything is fine in the U.S.A. and that everything is the same as it always has been in the U.S.A.

    134. My choice for a SHTF LED Pen Light says:

      Man, I love this site. So I’m providing you guys with some links to shit I bought.
      This is the best quality stuff I’ve found.

      If the SHTF hits…you’ll need to travel light. That means…not the big bulky lights..but the small ones…. Here’s what I recommend.
      This think is very bright and has an LED light…so no broken bulbs.
      Also….IN A SHTF…THE ONLY BATTERIES YOU OFTEN FIND ARE FOR PEN LIGHTS…THINK ABOUT IT!

      I bought a handful of them. I put one in my gun ammo safe…glove boxes for both cars.
      My kid just went to camp and I gave her one…she loves it. Put one on your junk drawer.
      Camping kit. I actually put one on my compound bow…on the counter weight…made it a midnight rader tactical bow. If I need to feed the family I’d just take out some rabbit or squirrel.

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      LED Pen Flashlight – I got mine! A shit load of them. A once in a life time buy…now I’m set.
      That’ how you prep. One is as good as none! I’d get about six of them…and keep them in many places.
      Final thought…. Here’s the order of things… if the power goes out… you fire up the pen light…then you crack the glow sticks…. then out come the candles and lastly the kero lanterns.

      http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015UC17E/ref=as_li_tf_til?tag=glocodgui-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B0015UC17E&adid=1JYFWRCMNKBNY42N01N2&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fglobalcodeguild.com%2FStore%2Ftabid%2F104%2FDefault.aspx

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      Stealth tip… I have one where I put masking tape over the end for minimal light…..good for loading the gun! They will never see me coming.

      Somewhere in Buffalo, NY. America’s best kept secret. Land of low cost housing, no earthquakes, no forrest fires, no riots, zero issues. All you need is a snow blower and a 4×4. Next to the great lakes…a lifetime of fresh water.

      Peace, be strong and join the NRA and ammo up!

     
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