2011 was yet another record breaking year for gun sales, with Americans purchasing some 10.8 million firearms, a 14% increase over the previous year and up over 50% from ten years ago as reported by the National Shooting Sports Foundation:
Many indicators, including a record-setting 2011, show the firearms industry continues to thrive in a down economy and that the potential exists for another strong sales year in 2012, reports the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the trade association for the firearms, ammunition, hunting and shooting sports industry.
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Indicators such as background-check statistics, firearms production and importation, firearm-retailer surveys and on-the-ground reports from retailers nationwide reveal that interest in firearm ownership is high. “More and more Americans are choosing to exercise their Second Amendment rights, and they are doing so in a safe and responsible manner,” said NSSF President and CEO Steve Sanetti.
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One of the best indicators of firearms sales is the FBI’s National Instant Background Check System, which federally licensed firearm retailers use to conduct the mandatory background check on purchasers of new and used firearms. NSSF downwardly adjusts the NICS data by subtracting checks related to non-purchasing activity, such as checks for concealed carry permits, in order to gain a more accurate picture of market activity.
December marked an unprecedented 19th straight month of background check increases when compared to the same period in the previous year.
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Why are more Americans choosing to own firearms? Reasons range from citizens’ increased awareness of the Second Amendment protecting the individual right to own firearms that was reaffirmed in two recent Supreme Court decisions, to increased interest in personal and home protection that may be due to economic uncertainty, to increased interest in the shooting sports and hunting.
Politics has played a role, too, with a surge in firearms sale beginning in October 2008, in part because supporters of the Second Amendment feared the election of less gun-friendly candidates, including Barack Obama, and new, restrictive gun laws they might advocate. Though such legislation has not happened, industry professionals at the SHOT Show believe a similar reaction this election year is possible that could ignite another surge in firearm sales.
Related to the topic of gun sales is the public’s changing attitude toward ownership. A recent Gallop poll showed a record lack of support for gun control, with only 26 percent of Americans favoring a ban on the possession of handguns. When Gallup first asked Americans this question some 50 years ago, 60 percent favored banning handguns.
As sales climb, recent FBI data shows violent crime continuing to fall in the United States, with homicides dropping out of the top 15 causes of death in the country. The statistics undermine a favorite argument of anti-gun groups that “more guns equal more crime.”
“These statistics vividly demonstrate that the lawful possession and use of firearms by law-abiding Americans does not cause crime,” said Lawrence G. Keane, NSSF senior vice president and general counsel. “There have never been more firearms in civilian possession in the history of the United States, and crime, including homicide, continues to decline throughout the country.”
Japanese Fleet Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto was once quoted during World War II as saying, ”you cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.“
Enemies of the people of the United States and our Constitution should take heed. We’ve got guns. Lots of them, so just back off.
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That’s what happens when you sit in front of a computer all day. Who cares!
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Why Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world.
(short Swiss video)
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80848701/
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You know what is a little funny? I looked at the chart and I totaled roughly all of the guns purchased since 2002 to 2011, 84,000,000 guns sold in 9 years, plus who knows how many are already here. Shit; that’s a lot of guns. It will be an interesting day when the leftists has a set of balls for a moment and says we want your guns and disarm you. REALLY, No SHIT?
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When the “mainstream” media and FBI gather all of their firearms related deaths, homicides, suicides, assaults, rapes, etc.- They lump ALL firearm incidents into one big bubble.
Most of their “statistics” include justifiable homicide by homeowners or otherwise legally using firearms for righteous self- defense.
So everything gun related just gets classified as “gun violence”.
True, but sorely overlooking the facts.
Whenever you hear that in your town that “gun crime” is up this year, you know that violent crime is up and lawfull citizens are actually defending themselves.
Remember- whenever they say gun crime is up they actually mean DEFENSE is up against the criminals.
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Maybe this is why Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world.
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(www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80848701/)
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Switzerland has mandatory military training, and that includes the ability to follow orders.
Are U.S. citizens prepared for that? According to this article, probably not:
http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=4874
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just because people have guns,it does not make them safer, being allowed to use them on people harming them on their property or breaking into their homes is what makes them safe. many states like the one I live in, a person is not allowed to defend themself without first hiring a lawyer and calling the cops, by that time, all the cops have to do is draw a chalk line around your body.
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Monk is correct. Groups who were organized could route larger forces than themselved when motivated. But historically small unorganized groups, despite a common goal, were overcome by their organized enemy.
A centipede has 100 feet but if they don’t work togeather he might as well have none. He won’t go anywhere.
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Obviously you do Anonymous.
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Did you even bother to read the article, before you posted?
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Does your eye patch cover any of it ?
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You’re a puddle pirate the CG?
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Rich 99 It is to the point that no matter what you say if your name is attached to it no one cares. You are now just a pain in the ass.
We tolerate you because I do believe in the first amendment. But that is why I can leave this site and ignore these ad and take my business some where else.
Please go away. Your satire is to old. You are one of the ones that make reading these posts a waste of time.
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AMEN to that Mike
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I second that.
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Read #3. Read the Jew’s suggestion to have the Mossad assassinate the US President. What would they do if YOU made that suggestion? Will they even slap this guys hands? Don’t hold your breath.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html
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I saw that, I think it was on Drudge Report.
It made me like Obama, just a little bit
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why is this bastard not in prison for writing and printing this hateful murderous material?
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~John Q~
Nothing will come of this! We both know the tribe “owns” the DoJ also…..look what they’ve done to Edgar Steele!!!
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Little things amuse I guess.
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Dude…you would think that by now, you would understand that people are sick of the “am I #1″ routine! Holy shit! Just make a comment and move on! No one care who’s number one!!!
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Jan. 26 OBAMA has been ordered into a Georgia court and told to produce ALL of his documents, BC, college records,adoption records…ALL OF IT.
His ba!!s are in a sling so WATCH OUT over the next few days.
A false flag ATTACK could be imminent.He has got to distract the sheep while he continues the fraud against them. Time is counting down until he is finally exposed…
Remember January 26 THURSDAY is his new deadline…keep your eyes open..
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They moved the Aicraft carrier Enterprise into the Persian gulf because it is scheduled to be decommissioned soon. It has 8 nuclear reactors on it. It will cost millions if not billions to tear it apart with conventional methods. Isreal will blow it up and they will blame it on Iran so oBummer will not have to appear before the court and tell on himself that he is not a U.S. Citezen.
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I bought 4 of them!!!
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I bought 6 last year! All unregistered private sales!
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Our 2 were also private…….
KEEP PREPPIN’
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Three hours ago I just bought my 8th one in the last 7 months. It must suck to be outguned.
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Couple weeks ago my dad calls me all excited.
What’s up dad?
Had to call you and tell you something.
What?
Well, I was at a gargage sale earlier today, chatting with the owner and he tells me he got a revolver for sale. Asked him what it was,what make and how much. H&R 38 revolver, stainless, $150!
You bought it right?
Of course, for your mom.
Cool dad, good job and unregistered.
YEP!
Get off the phone with a smile. My wife, who is from Ukraine says “why are you smiling”?
I said, you got to love this country, only place on the planet where you can buy a handgun at a garage sale legally!!!!!!!!!
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Damn, should have used spell check!
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You nean other than Mogadishu, Kabul, Baghdad….
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me too, bought ten. all private sales
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I see the trolls are on here again with the thumbs down BS. Go away!
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and then the wife mistakenly put them out with stuff for goodwill.hint hint nudge nudge wink wink.
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Stupid me, I decided to bring all mine on a boating trip and the vessel capsized, I lost them all.
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The real question: How many are new and not just resales
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AZ and Jeffro: Just keep buying because if Obummer is re-elected, he and Billary are going to try and get the U.N. disarmament treaty through the Senate. If the Dems hold onto the Senate we could be in for a rough time. If the Republicans take either the White House, or the Senate, and we should be o.k. But keep buying and encourage your family and friends to go to the gun range with you. Get them to join a local gun club, and a national one as well that will lobby for us. Time is short.
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Sshhhhh!!!! Don’t tell anyone!
Harry Callahan: [at end of main titles] This is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and it could blow your head clean off. Do you feel lucky?
[fires at the audience]
…#10 cans — crisp $100 (inflation) bills…
mushroom
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I set out to buy a dozen guns last year and did it. 2 shotguns, 4 pistols, 4 22LR (one for each family memeber including the dog) a bolt .308 and and my prize-a SOCOM 16 M1A; a positivly beautiful piece of equipment. Had to buy a bigger safe too.
While having papered guns is viewed as a neg, they contribute statistcs like these that serve 2 purposes; 1, they drive power hungry politicians crazy, and they make power hungry foriegn enemies say things like “if we invade America, there will be a gun behind every blade of grass”. That’s right, buddy. There is, so find another country to invade. Too much trouble for you here.
I did my part.
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me too! and then the wife used them to hold up the string beans. oh the horror! i had to throw them in the trash. opsec paddy. opsec!
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The Dog should really get a semi auto
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Make the most of your weapons in a SHTF scenario. Use some of the strategies outlined here so you can G.O.O.D. It is always good to have some of your weapons hidden to keep criminals, whether from the government or not, away from your treasures.
http://codgerville.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/the-art-and-science-of-caching/
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That’s what I’ve done, using heavy gauge PVC pipes. I use them for weapons and ammo, food and meds, trade goods and metals for barter. In the weapons caches, I use oil cloth and sacks of silica gel, wax cloth over the ends and then seal them with PVC nipple caps. I usually put two or three together, drilling a hole in each of the nipple caps and tying them together with a length of decent nylon rope…just have to rake a hook through the dirt and easily pull them up. Few of the caches are on my own property, but are located where I can get to them over a 50 mile stretch to the refuge, crypto-mapped out and ready for action.
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“One man with a gun can control 100 without one” vladimir lenin
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What is meant by that quote is that UNARMED citizens can be controled by men who are armed. Guns solve nothing? Tell that to the people protecting their property during the rodney king riots after the police ran off to protect their vital areas. An armed society is a polite society. As for the rest of your statement, ask yourself, why didn’t the germans and russians storm the stazi and kgb by the 100′s, because they were divided.
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Yep, I remember the L.A. Riots when armed store owners protected themselves and their property from rioters and looters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs
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Citizen Ron, Sure one hundred unarmed men MIGHT be able to take down one armed man. BUT, the first dozen or so of those hundred are going to get mowed down in the process. If those hundred men understand this, they will most likely stand down. If you disagree, get 99 of your closest commie friends and come to my house. YOU first! YOU lead them Ron. If you are as testicularly deficient as I think you are, you won’t do it. And if you did, your 99 buds will turn tail and run when they see you go down face-first in the dirt.
I’m willing to die trying to keep ‘em, are you willing to die trying to take ‘em?
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You go first. Of course a hundred unarmed men could overcome one armed man but that is not the point and history does not bear out that kind of courage. Just look to all the school shootings and workplace violence incidents where the unarmed chose to cower in fear and wait to be shot. Never mind that places where those kinds of shootings occur are usually prohibited from concealed carry for law abiding citizens. I thumb my nose at the law and carry everywhere and don’t bother with getting the state’s permission to defend myself.
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Very well-said.
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Remember – God created man, but Samuel Colt made them equal.
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Slaves cower for safety while freemen prefer to fight even if it means to risk dying.
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+10 !!!
Laws against guns only guarantee that criminals have the advantage.
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“Political Power comes from the barrel of a gun.”
- Mao Tse Tung (Ze Dong)
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“You can get much more with a kind word and a gun than a kind word alone.”
Al Capone
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Yeah and remember that Obama and his ilk think that Mao Tse Tung is some kind of hero. They had the guy adorning decorations on the White House Christmas tree. Maybe, just maybe Obama has the same philosophy; that could explain why gun sales in this country has risen so much over that last few years. Never in the history of this nation have we been on the edge of open public revolt. Don’t think for a second that because this is America the land of the free that we as citizens won’t have to fight to keep that freedom…even against our own government.
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Ron, why don’t you go troll somewhere else. I guess this is what we get from people with no life. We now know who the thumbs down troll is on here.
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@ citizen ron, That is utterly ignorant. Gun ownership is the final backstop we have against a tyrannical government taking power. You think the founders went through the trouble of including the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights to protect our right to hunt deer? The existence of our right to keep and bear arms is a constant reminded to tyrants and dictators in every city, town, and hamlet across the nation that any attempt to subjugate and enslave Americans will not be without repercussions, so don’t try it. It is a layer of deterrence, and it works.
Look at the difference in civil freedoms between cities that openly advocate gun control versus towns where local politicians and law enforcement embrace civilian gun ownership. Then compare the crime statistics. The evidence in favor of gun ownership is irrefutable.
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Dr. Suzanna Hupp’s Testimony to Congress on the 2nd Amendment. Gives me chills every time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvTO-y-B2YM
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@rightwing- I love that woman! What a speach!
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I agree wholeheartedly.
The British government has done everything it can to prevent gun ownership in the uk the result is the bad guys have guns, some of the police have guns, and the citizens hope they aren’t on the receiving end.
Since one Neanderthal smacked another with a stick man has born arms as a form of defence, we have been stripped of that right and I for one am livid about it.
Ron, I am sure you are a wonderful person, but you have no idea what it’s like to live in a system when you cannot defend yourself without ending up in court. It is easy to say guns solve nothing when you have the right to own one, and probably do.
Take care
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Was the 1st Amendment designed to protect obscenities. Actually: yes. There’s no restrictions on free speech. The Founders could have written the 1st Amendment to refer only to intellectual debates but they prefer that speech be free with obscenities included than risk a group getting to choose what can and can’t be said.
On the other hand, the Founders wrote the 2nd Amendment to allow States to form their own Militia forces to help protect the States and Federal Government when needed. If the Founders wanted the masses to own guns for whatever reason then they could worked the 2nd Amendment like the 1st yet they didn’t.
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Hey Gil- What 2nd amendment are you reading. All citizenry are part of the militia. Militia in it’s definition is:
any army composed of citizens rather than professional soldiers, called up in time of emergency
in the U.S., all able-bodied male citizens between 18 and 45 years old who are not already members of the regular armed forces: members of the National Guard and of the Reserves (of the Army, Air Force, Coast Guard, Navy, and Marine Corps) constitute the organized militia; all others, the unorganized militia
any of various disaffected groups of citizens that are organized as to resemble an army and that oppose the authority of the federal government
Also what part of “shall not be infringed” do you and Chuck-u-Schumer not understand? Go to England if you don’t like the rights of the citizens here.
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Apparently Mr T you’re reading the same 2nd Amendment as me: “A well-regulated militia . . .” The Founders were securing the right to form militias not open gun ownership per se hence the 2nd Amendment was never about hunting, sports shooting antique gun collecting, etc., it was solely about maintaining the militia. Hence it’s the guns of the miiltia members that can’t be infringed. Don’t like it then join your state militia.
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you should change your name to citizen run
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Guns solve plenty Ron. If it weren’t for armed forefathers, the people of the US would be singing God Save The Queen.
Guns save lives every year. All you have to do is make it visible and most ciminals will back off on the spot. On the rare occasion it has to be pulled out and pointed. On the even rarer occassion, a bullet must be fired.
Self-defense is survival. When the fecal matter hits the rotating cooling device, you’ll want to have one to survive the looters and gangs knocking on your front door.
Good luck.
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Agreed.
British government..I know let’s send an ARMy to shoot the shit out of a country…just because we can.
British government….oh no, citizens can’t have guns.
A Brit…guess so I’d shoot first?
Take care
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And slaves would have been freed a generation earlier.
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100 unarmed men will not take down one armed man. If that was the case prisoners would control the prisons. If that was the case the Berlin wall would have been over run. If that was the case six million Jews and another four million others would not have been killed in genocide. Quite to the contrary a handful of poorly armed people made asses out of the Nazi’s in the Warsaw ghetto. The Belski Brothers did not do too bad either.
Your never safer having no means to resist as opposed to possessing those means.
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You cant fix stupid….
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Ignorance is cureable. Stupidty is inherited! Aint that right Rich
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Citizen Ron: So, are you going to lead the 100 man team to take down the one guy with the gun, or are you just an Arm-Chair General who’ll just cheer them on from the back row? So guns solve nothing huh, tell that to the 18y/o widow in Oklahoma who shot and killed one home invader and wounded the other brandishing a knife at her and her infant son. The Deputies had been called 20 mins. earlier but hadn’t arrived until after the shooting. It was all over the news for two days. It’s even on You-Tube. One young woman with gun + two bad guys with a knife = problem solved!
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In May of last year I saw the Porter Stansberry video at endofamerica66.com. That awakened me to the disasters that are coming our way. I never owned a gun or even fired one before. We bought two shotguns and learned to use them at a shooting range.
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Porter has been right alot, but he also has been wrong! He has time on his side on his predictions, we may also have time on our side, but i doubt it!
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Barn Cat: We have what I call “Hillbilly Play Day”. Call some friends, have them call some friends and everyone bring guns, buy a keg a beer and have fun. Have to be careful about knowing when to drink and stop shooting. It is a great way to fire a variety of weapons, and get a feel for what you like without spending money blindly. Set up a distance range, handgun range and shoot skeet. Good times I promise.
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YEE HAH!!!!
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Ugh no drinking and shooting for me, it plays hell with my groups!!
My way of doing it would be to have a nice, sober, fun time shooting and then put the guns away and get out the drinks.
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I wouldn’t be doing keg stands (do people still do those?) but one or two beers shouldn’t screw with your groups too bad.
Next time you are out, try sprinting 50 yards or so to elevate your breathing and blood pressure then practice relaxing slowing your breathing and firing accurately.
IMO everyone should be trying to do anything to simulate higher stress. Just laying down and picking off a paper target is only part of it.
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Thomas – I used to run to/from the target at smallbore matches, just for fun – slow down my hear rate etc and shoot just fine. It was because someone said not to run etc. I’d also drink a large Coke and then burp before getting back into position, gosh smallbore shooting can be fun. We’d cook burgers after the day’s shooting, and to me a burger with onion and mayo is still a “Rifle Range Burger”.
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“Hold my beer and watch this!”
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How many trips to the ER started with that exact statement. We are really responsible when doing this believe it or not. When anyone moves down range all activity stops, even if they are moving in a different direction. Most of the fire dept was there, tons of former military and people that have been hunting since they were kids. Everyone has been around guns for years, older generations will sit in lawn chairs and watch. Only once did anyone yell a cease fire. There is always one idiot. The old men chewed his ass and he put his away. Guys that are proficient shooters will help kids and other wives. Maybe I made it sound like a drunk fest. It certainly is not that.
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Any “hillbilly play days” scheduled around Denver? (I know not *in* Denver as we have some of the worst anti-gun laws here!)
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@ Barn Cat, I too was awakened by the Porter Stansberry video at endofamerica66.com. I now own and regularly practice with a PT145 millinium pro, as well as prep food, water, tools, fuels, etc. I will protect my wife and son to my last breath.
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Years ago, I shuddered at the .32 pistol in the house–since we moved here 4 years ago and I started prepping, we’ve acquired a .22 magnum, a .12 guage, a HMR Henry, and a youth single shot 20 guage(for me and my short arms), but I like the .32 better–it’s in ‘MY’ BOB.
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“the only real power comes out of a long gun” stalin
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And look what it got colonial america!
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“out of my cold dead hands” charleton heston (and I just said it also)
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@ “citizen” ron:
“A lousy actor??” To clue you in, Charlton Heston received the Best Actor Oscar for his portrayal of Ben Hur in the movie with the same name. Regarding your incorrect assessment of Mr. Heston’s shooting skills, he shot Expert Rifle and Pistol when he was in the Army.
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Do not feed the trolls.
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Mommy’s calling…it’s suppertime,
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Citizen Ron;
You might want to check your spelling when you make negative comments toward some one.., because it does devalue your credibility when making a point.
Just saying……………..
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I guess his guns have been long taken.
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My worry is that the government will not be able to keep track of guns changing hands through private sales or generations handing them down to younger family members. They will trace ammo sales through a registry. I believe NJ already does this.
I find it interesting. I call it the armslistdotcom index. Go on to your respective state and find a good gun that is reasonably priced and keep track how long it takes to dissappear from the site. People are worried. Most don’t know why or from where their worry is coming but they are worried and find comfort in their second amendment.
Anyone know of any other sites like armslist?
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People know something is brewing, I wish it was beer, but I fear it is not. Remember, If you see a group of animals all run ning in the same direction, start running with them!
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Nah Kevin, that’s why we have guns to stand our ground and shoot whatever is chasing them!
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Alot of animals know when an earthquake is comming and start running and flying away. Perhaps we are doin the same, but our earthquake is nation wide. P.S. Unless they are running toward me, I wouldn’t waste my ammo!
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Unfortunately you can’t run fast enough in any direction to escape the collapse that started in 2008 which appears to be accelerating. The bill is coming due on all the debt that has accumulated and world’s biggest margin call is about to occur. The only solution I see is to stand my ground and prepare the best I can for the next big crash.
But you are 100% correct, people know something is brewing. They may not be able to define the problem, but they sense it.
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Maybe that’s what happened to my ex; I last saw her running with a group of lemmings. Gosh how I missed her. Forgot to add Kentucky windage.
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I also believe that a viable end run around the constitution is ammo registration and burdensome taxation life that on cigarettes. They key is to have enough ammunition so you can pass it down along with the guns. If we, our children, or grandchildren can go hunting every day of their lives then we might just have enough.
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NO! The key is to LEARN from the cig tax, its for the children health care remember? We have to vote these a$$clowns out of office, and since a private company counts the votes and tells us who won at a secret undisclosed location for our own good, we may not be able to do that. According to the founding fathers the 2nd amendment is a check and balance to the governments power! The facist scum know this. I imagine this number is disturbing their sleep patterns and they are soiling their panties!
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Ammunition sales are NOT tracked here in Mass.. a simple showing of your Class A LTC CCW is all that is asked..never swiped!
Unfortunately we do not have gun shows nor are private sales LEGALLY allowed here..hmmm
For survival techniques..watch sootchoo or nutnfancy on you tube..great gun n run videos and all the techniques required on almost every firearm worth its weight..
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At best modern ammo won’t last very well past 300-400 years, got that much. for longer periods must go back to black powder, got that also
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What business is it of Government to track gun sales anyway? The Second Amendment says nothing about the nanny state keeping records of who owns what…in fact nothing in the Constitution empowers .gov to keep track of any private ownership of any thing, whatsoever.
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Right on, Mirbach! Our problem seems to be that we keep electing packs of ninnies who can’t figure out what the word “infringe” means in the 2nd Amendment. It does not mean “ban”. It DOES mean “don’t mess with”. So, what part of “don’t mess with” does these twits not grasp?
Our Founding Fathers did an amazing job with what was then a brand new concept in government. We should all salute them for that. If they had 1 single failing, though, it would be that they did not use “Congress shall pass no law that…” enough.
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“A well-regulated militia . . .”
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@mike,
Its called handloading. Learn how to reload your own cartridges, buy bullets, primers, and powder in bulk by paying cash, have at least one of your guns in a common military or police cartridge so you can use ammo taken off of our oppressors dead bodies, consider getting a blackpowder gun with a flint lock and bullet casting molds so you can make your own blackpowder from commonly available gardening supplies (you can also make your own percussion primers from aluminum cans and children’s paper roll caps) buy Foxfire volume Five on blackpowder making and rifle making, and scavenge discarded brass of all calibers at shooting ranges. You can use it down the road for reloading and trade with those who foolishly don’t police their spent brass. By these measures you can ensure the Feds will not be able to limit your access to ammunition.
Don’t turn up your nose at blackpowder either. All wars up until the 1880′s were fought with blackpowder. Smokeless blackpowder was perfected by the Swiss around the same time that smokeless powder was developed. The antifouling characteristics of smokeless powder allowed modern repeating weapons to be created and ensured that smokeless blackpowder never was adopted and was ultimately forgotten. It can be made by eliminating sulfur (sulfur helps with ignition) but a much hotter spark is then needed (think modern primers).
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Moon, if I can take the ammo from the oppressor(dead) then I can take his/her weapon also.
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thats why I load my own..trace that
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But my point is you still have consumables. I load as well, but there are things that I cannot manufacture. Good idea about muzzleloaders. My next purchase is a bow, more for enjoyment, I am really not that good witha bow. And it is much better suited for woodland rather than the plains.
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The vast amount of guns in the hands of private citizens in this country will forever be a thorn in the side of an administration that wishes to subjugate all of us.It’s not our brave military or LEO communities that guaranttee our freedoms, but the common citizen with a couple of handguns and a rifle or two. Those of us in the private sector that own firearms are the first line of defense not against a foreign invasion but an oppressive and tyrannical government that will stop at nothing to get what it wants. Therefore, my freinds , I will not surrender under any circumstance. I am not afraid of the man that has 100 guns , I am afraid of the grandmother that has only one. She knows how to use it.
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I have one in my collection that is one the radar. I have yet to figure out what I will do with it. There are pros and cons to both sides of turning it in during an anmesty type of occurance. Hind sight being 20/20 I should never have bought it and had it shipped. But too late for that.
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Relax either that one is the one that fell overboard in your boating problem, or turn it in, Myself I have several they can have.
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Agreed, Chris… the phrase “all enemies, foreign and domestic” is in the US Constitution and numerous other official documents and oaths for a reason… a VERY good reason; for it is not only the right of US citizens to remove a tyrannical government from power, it is our sacred duty to do so that following generations of Americans can also live in freedom. In order to perform that duty, we need to own the tools of the trade, for they will not go willingly.
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~Chris 45~
Ok! I see your point.
But at the end of the day, the only one I “FEAR/WORRY ABOUT”…is the guy w/ a back-ground similar to mine…equipped w/ a good scoped center-fire bolt gun & the skill-sets to use it well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The term “LONG DISTANCE OPERATOR” connotes a serious ability,….lost to most!
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Exactly why the “chance” of another false flag is imminent. The constitution must be suspended for THEIR plans to move forward.
“We are disarming you for not only YOUR own good, but for the security and good of the nation. All who refuse to voluntarily comply with this mandate of National Security will be considered traitors and domestic terrorist!”
Tell me YOU can’t imagine those words coming from the mouths of TPTB.
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Just like the mayor of Springfield:
all those who are for the establishment of surveillance cameras in the town say “I”
everybody:
“I”!
all those who are against it say “I hate America”
Lisa Simpson:
“I… oh well…”
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Was it Patrick Henry who replied to the man who exclaimed, “But this is treason!” by saying, “If this be treason, then let’s make the most of it!”?
The bad news for any would-be tyrants out there is that they do not get to define who is or is not a traitor. The American people will do a 1st class job of that and history will confirm the correctness of our efforts. I can guarantee that the tyrant WILL head the list of traitors and not gun-owning, freedom-loving, don’t-tread-on-me Americans!
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~Yental~
(quote)—”We are disarming you for not only YOUR own good, but for the security and good of the nation. All who refuse to voluntarily comply with this mandate of National Security will be considered traitors and domestic terrorist!”
Tell me YOU can’t imagine those words coming from the mouths of TPTB.—(unquote)
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Your words ring true! Yet on the flip side, if every gun owner understood the concept of:
…”Washington/UN cannot win a “Snipers War”…
And pledged upon their honor, to enforce said truth when the need arises, martial law would die/fail within 30 days!
Interesting enough, I’ve noticed at various gun-shows the past two years that dealers selling “de-milled select-fire kits” (sten MK-III, PPsh etc) have been doing a brisk business, to the point that such kits have now become quite rare!!! That…plus the abundance of “how to home build a (quality)suppressor” books flying off the shelves/tables at said shows…improves my outlook/faith regarding the strength & intensity of the opposition TPTB will be facing!!!
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@ Gunsmith, I agree completely. That “potential mandate” will certainly garner the guns that would have never been used against them anyway. Big deal. It will make a useful propaganda tool for the Lame-stream-media to play with for awhile.
I hope everyone understands I am not endorsing a “toe-to-toe” or “skirmish line” suicide run. That is not a winning strategy.
What you are referencing and tactics I have also referenced (IRA, etc.) ARE a winning strategy. I am additionally encouraged by a growing number of military and LEO’s that intend to KEEP THEIR OATH.
Stay away from “forced vaccinations”. Those will be for the good of someone, just not you or me.
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~Yental~
(quote)—Stay away from “forced vaccinations”. Those will be for the good of someone, just not you or me.—(unquote)
Affirmative…copy that!
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Each individual human being is an awesome life-form. Our bodies resist manufactured diseases,mind-altering drugs, toxic chemicals added to water, and increasingly higher radiation levels. Many of our minds and souls resist the lies, sneers, and propaganda of the “ruling elites” (I call them borg). We live our lives, work, raise families–live joyful lives filled with a wonder and delight they will never know.
How they hate us!
From their failed cities, and towering temples of greed, they rage and froth and plot. Some are bought, some believe the lies. Not enough for them. Their urge to dominate is all they have.
How they hate us!
We see and recognize this. We will never surrender. No wild-eyed screach such as their tools use. Just a calm, clear declaration:
“I will never give up. I will never surrender.”
How they hate us!
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yental and Gunsmith; glad to see their are more of us thinking alike. Stay ready, because when that first shot is heard there will be many that will freeze.
Thanks guys for the reminders.
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Well, lets hope that most of those people who bought all those guns, purchased more than 2 boxes of ammo.
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Excellent point. If you are a “two boxer”, improve on that position TODAY.
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If you ain’t got at least 5000 rounds you just have a starter kit.
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BRW
5000 rounds for each gun right.. LOL.I got the rounds to bad I lost all the guns in the lake.
DPS
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What a DICK!
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That’s giving dicks a bad name I think lol
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Tell you what Ron, have a think about this.
I am on the wrong side of 50, have a late in life kid, and medium bad arthritis. I live in a city with nowhere to bug out to. I do everything I can to learn skills that will help us should the need arise.
Part of me knows I am kidding myself that we will make it if armed or numbers turn up.
A firearm probably means the difference between life and death for me and my little girl.
You say guns don’t make a difference..of course they bloody do you idiot.
I am very open minded and believe in live and let live but you really need a reality check mate.
What colour is the sky in your world because I feel assured its not the mucky grey I look up at every day.
Wake up you bloody fool
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your name should be citizen wrong
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Why not just put a sign in your front yard that says “Looters, Welcome.”
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I did. umm Along with range marker on the backside of the signs. I worry a bit the game warden may get pissed and ticket me for baiting the quarry.
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@citizen ron, one your next door neighbors needs to put up a sign on their front lawn with an arrow pointing to your house that reads,
>>”My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns. His house is unarmed. Out of respect for their opinions, I promise not to use my guns to PROTECT THEM.”<<
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Ron- to call yourself a citizen is really a misnomer. You are a douche bag that has the right to say anything on this website because other more capable, dangerous, rough men have been willing to stand up for your rights in the past. Thank God almighty there are still men of those qualities to protect those rights for the rest of us. Have you ever wondered why you and your replies are met with such disdain on this site? Why don’t you just find something else to do with your time. The rest of us have serious things to discuss.
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Mr. T; great come back, I’m with you.
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What I like about more people owning is that it makes the task of dissarming that much more daunting. Hopefully it takes up more resources and therefore time. I agree with you yental that they will announce a dissarming, but that buys all of us more time with every gun that gets sold. Hopefully.
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Thomas, a bit of advice – stand to the side of those that wish to disarm you. It makes it easier to get the range and these 150gr might go right on through. Depending on your position, your injury would be a tragedy. Disarming the united States of America is an act of war. They should expect something beyond just resistance.
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Mr. Hayes: I will referr you to GMAFB’s post below about false bravado. I have been deployed enough and tested enough to be sure of myself. Your concern for my injuries sounds sarcastic? Let me know when you are ready to dig down deep, I wouldn’t want to be injured from whatever lethal force you can rain down.
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“They should expect something beyond just resistance.”
Indeed they should. They should expect a complete a$$ whuppin’.
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Yental,
I hope that day never comes because then I will surely kill or be killed.
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You, me, and MILLIONS of others. Those potential words and mandate will be THEIR “official” Declaration of War on the American population.
Don’t get me wrong, THEY have already made that declaration on a smaller scale…Patriot Act, NDAA, etc. All designed to mentally prepare the unprepared to accept “another loss of freedom” as business as usual. But the forced elimination of the second ammendment will be “the starting gun” for the battle to begin.
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“But the forced elimination of the second ammendment will be “the starting gun” for the battle to begin.”
Yes, they know that and it scares the crap out of them…
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Cross hairs!
Note to all govt. scum looking for someone to lock up…trolling these types of sites.
We’re the backbone of this country. I bet it mac polled everyone…we’re all property and business owners. Educated folks, land owners with no criminal records. The real terrorist are the congress passing the NDAA and all the UN fucks.
Note the military…I think it’s time you folks step in soon, wipe all the laws from the books, trash the Federal Reserver and start over. All Americans would cheer.
so…. stop all dealings with the banks. Pay only cash. Get more self sufficient and well stocked.
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Yes, at that point i will go fully armed,rifle, pistol full magazines,body armor and kevlar helmet every where i go. At that point i will just figure genocide is right around the corner….
The greatest killer in the 20th Century was secular governments who had disarmed their own citizens. Approximately 160 million people were killed by their own governments, in over 40 communist states, just in the 20th Century alone. These were not foreigners killed by invading armies during times of war, these were citizens killed by their own governments in times of peace.
George Washington, declared: “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. To secure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. They deserve a place of honour with all that is good.”
“He who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.” Luke 22:36
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At that point, it is time to SHOOT FIRST. The guns will no longer be for defense, but to kill those who are in uniforms still representing the corp., and those who supported it long enough to bring us to that point whether they have on a uniform or not.
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Teasle: Are you telling me that 200 of our men against your boy is a no-win situation for us?
Trautman: You send that many, don’t forget one thing.
Teasle: What?
Trautman: A good supply of body bags.
First Blood
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Agreed God’s Creation, and that is why at that point i would go fully armed.
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It will be time to call the Scooters!
While we may not have 100 million sniper capable people here on the mainland, I bet we have 1 million. And anything 223 and up that will shoot inside of 1 MOA qualifies as a sniper rifle in my opinion.
Shoot-n-scooters will win the day.
When they roll up to your door, let it be know that it won’t be the guy inside you’re trying to disarmed that they need to worry about. It will be the ones hiding in the houses all around that stores a bullet in your noggin.
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@NetRanger, I intended to acknowledge your “Shoot-n-scooters will win the day” observation earlier. Got lost in cyberspace. I agree, the right tactics will “win the day”. It won’t hurt to have a healthy number of military and LEO’s wakeup and realize their oath will protect their families as well.
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Net Ranger: The .223 is not a sniper caliber except for gun shop commandos and shooting rodents. It is a good assault rifle cartridge.
The .308 is minimal, The .338 Lapua is wonderful. It is the first cartridge specifically developed for sniping.
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“But the forced elimination of the second ammendment will be “the starting gun” for the battle to begin.”
It was enough to get things rolling back in 1776. No reason why the basics of that situation should be changed today.
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@ Red Leader. I agree….223 is not what I’m gonna reach for if I need distance & accuracy. .308 is a good round & .338 Lapua is much better. The problem with the .338 Lapua is they cost U about #6.00 a round…unless you reload. The guns are not cheap either. For those who do not have deep pockets…I suggest that the .300 Winchester is a good substitute.
Plenty of energy…..reasonably flat shooting…..& a whole lot cheaper to purchase the gun….& the ammo.
The Military Snipers used the .300 Win Mag for a number of years with very good results. I have a 1903 Springfield that ware chambereded for .300 Win Mag ,& it is by far my favorite rifle. Accurate & has dropped many
USA Large Game.
Montgomery County Texas
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yental… they never will eliminate the second ammendment, they have already and will continue to just ignore it… the battle began long ago… they already have declared war on the people.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Peace through superior fire power! Works every time. I agree with Navy Guy, I hope it never comes but I will surely kill or be killed. When they come to get me, they had better bring two things. Friends and body bags. I have’nt bothered anyone, they best leave me and mine alone.
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The Killer: Freeze cop. Now, left hand, pull out your gun.
[Harry pulls out his .44 Magnum]
The Killer: My, that’s a big one.
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ahhh… wer a playwrite now as well, huh mushroom? a stock trader, a veteran, what else? tell us more tales old boy.
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They have no records of mine….add two more to the total
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The last 4 years I have worked, managing a Gun shop, and I can tell you first hand that people in general are scared…they are maxing out there credit cards, trading in gold and silver, even selling and trading vehicles to buy guns and ammo, from single women, to entire families comming in to purchase ak’s and ar-15′s, and shotguns, I have never seen anything like it, even the Obama gun scare wasn’t as busy as it has been lately….every weekend and payday were getting wiped out of ammo and guns….And if you ask….the public will tell you that they can feel something is wrong in the air…..most customers tell me personally that they believe the USA is going to fail, and that there will be total anarchy in the streets….
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I think everyone is feeiling it. Most chose denile and stick their heads in the sand. They simply cannot mentally handle the paradigm shift. Few chose to prepare and confront the issue head on with logic.
Thankfully, everyone here with the possible exceptions of ‘shroomhead and ignorant Rich see the danger and are getting ready.
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Trautman: I don’t think you understand. I didn’t come to rescue Rambo from you. I came here to rescue you from him.
Teasle: Well, we all appreciate your concern Colonel, I will try to be extra careful!
Trautman: I’m just amazed he allowed any of your posse to live.
Teasle: Is that right?
Trautman: Strictly speaking, he slipped up. You’re lucky to be breathing.
Teasle: That’s just great. Colonel, you came out here to find out why one of your machines blew a gasket!
Trautman: You don’t seem to want to accept the fact you’re dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who’s the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who’s been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In Vietnam his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well Rambo was the best.
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eeder, take it easy on shroomy. He’s been around her as long as any of us and, while I don’t always agree with his stuff, I almost always get a big laugh out of it. He’s comedy relief except when he’s not. …and when he’s not he’s got some good ideas.
I think he posted this because he know there will be the Rambos and they’ll do us proud.
Don’t forget your #10 cans and your $100 bills!
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Due to inflation I am stocking $17 bills.
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“is going to fail”??
try: IS ALREADY FAILING, or HAS ALREADY FAILED.
beliefs: let them go or they will destroy you.
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…has failed:
US ECONOMY
RIP
1776 – 2008
It just hasn’t been buried yet.
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“Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn’t.”
Benjamin Franklin
The past three months I converted some of my silver into cold steel to ensure everyone in my family is well-armed. Couldn’t do it under the radar (I live in the People’s Republic of Kalifornia) but if the local LEOs ever come to confiscate I can assure I will have a good sized honor guard in Valhalla.
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I too live in Californistan…I feel your pain.
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Benjamin Franklin. Definitely my favorite founding father.
He had a unique view of life and God. One that, pretty much, mirrors my own.
One of my favorite quotes is:
“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” – Benjamin Franklin
He was one that didn’t let cultural baggage hold him back or dictate what he did.
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Yes, mine too. He was the granddaddy of all Libertarians. Live and let live.
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You are correct Sir! Been trying to update my Gun Room and the Shops have everything Flying off the Shelves, and the rest on Back-Order ,wished I would have started sooner,but now I am paying the Big Bucks..Time is short and we must Prepare NOW!
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Gun control people- NoT the other way around!!
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I agree.
I have for most of my life been willing to die for my beliefs and my country. That being said dying for my country was never my goal or ambition. Living my beliefs if much more appealing. TPTB are going to push and push with things like NDAA… until they can push no further without igniting furry of all of into a big fireball of hell. I hope we can postpone that inevitability as long as possible.
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Yeah, when TPTB piss off the furries, that will be the end.
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Wow I should proofread more slowly.
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No Webster’s police here Big Rudder. What platform?
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This story is great news. I purchased this year as well.
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I purchased as well, but, none of those were on the radar.
5 rifles, 2 handguns, 1 shotgun. All under the radar. I love my state. All private sales. One rifle was at a yard sale off a major highway.
They can’t come get what the don’t know exists.
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damn it net! opsec!
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Still have it. Anonymity and obfuscation help maintain it.
There are only 2 people on here that know even what state I live in. I trust both of them.
…and if the ABCs want to know, they already do. The myth about OPSEC is you can’t tell anyone anything. Not true. You can tell them anything you want, you just can’t tell them enough to locate what you have. Its kind of like a puzzle. If you’ve just got a couple pieces, you can’t get much of a picture.
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anyone brave enough or stupid enough to come and get me and whats mine, will deserve what they get.
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~Paranoid~
NEVER…EVER,… for a moment believe that TPTB are merely coming for your guns!!!
—It is imperative that everyone here understand that they are coming for “YOU” personally—!
…”YOU” are the weapon…!!!
The firearm is merely a tool “YOU” utilize/use!!!
“YOU” are the reason the FEMA camps were constructed & are being staffed….
The word “YOU”….connotes the free-thinking individual.
The Bill of Rights affirms that “WE” as individuals, possess the inherent “GOD” given right to resist their tyranny….
….& its up to “YOU” to decide your course of action!
————Never Surrender to Tyranny——————
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~delr~
You sir, are a very sane voice shouting reason/common sense, in the wilderness of enemy territory.
I listen to you……
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WOW! 10,800,000. Lets see, with an average price of say $500 that would be $5,400,000,000. Then say 2 boxes of ammo each gun, say at $25 each, that would be $540,000,000. Then lets say $40 for accessories, thats $432,000,000. If my math is right thats $6,372,000,000 added to the economy due to the policies of the senate, house, and executive branches of the (these)united states of america!
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Rambo: I could have killed ‘em all, I could kill you. In town you’re the law, out here it’s me. Don’t push it. Don’t push it or I’ll give you a war you won’t believe. Let it go. Let it go.
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Amazing, Congress can still create growth in the economy, but it can’t put the growth where they want it.
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’bout time they pulled their heads out and added SOMETHING to the economy.
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Ya this IS good for our economy. Im supprised obama has not put a stop to it.
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So…what you are saying is that the Banana Republic of Obama has in fact increased activity in some private sectors of the economy………
I don’t remember seeing the firearms industry included in the “Jobs Created or Saved”propagandaa !
Montgomery County Texas
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Ain’t no crocodiles out here, but a fast-moving 57 chevy will mess with your day.
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The dark side (US Government) didn’t pass the NDAA for nothing! The wicked forces in high places will move quickly on us this year…when the U.S. dollar loses it’s “Petrol status and or as the World’s currency…the game is on!”
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One per year whether I need it or not… I really enjoy shooting them too. Lots of fun.
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“One man with a gun can control 100 without one” vladimir lenin”
How many men with guns can a UAV control/kill?
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Men with guns spread out over the entire CONUS, my guess is “not enough”.
And Iran has demonstrated the vulnerability of UAV’s having successfully “hijacked” one and safely landed it in their country.
The potential is “over rated” as a game changer. IMO.
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The Iranians have help from China and Russia. Who will help the American people?
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The American People will have to help themselves. Fortunately, I think they will be able to do that once they get pissed enough.
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Oathkeeping American patriots that will either stand down, or actively defect. There are more than a few examples of various military “stand downs” effectively castrating over reaching governments.
The term “Unlawful Order” appears to be an idea that has gained some additional momentum in a growing segment of our military.
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Oh, you didn’t just ask that question. We got plenty of hackers right here in the usa, and plenty of crazy shooters who’d just love to spot one of those UAV’s.
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~MdO~
The techno-wizards who graduated from MIT, Stanford, Georgia Tech etc…etc! Plus a sizable contingent of “defectors in place” within the USAF/USN & maybe the CIA/NSA/National Reconnaissance Office!
Believe it or not…some of the “spooks” are honorable men too!
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That’s the problem. They’re building THOUSANDS of UAVs and chances are the ones we know about are just the tip of the iceberg.
They fly high and are quiet, you can’t tell the buggers are up there. They’ve already been used against an American citizen, out in Nebraska or someplace, who supposedly kept a couple of cows belonging to the next ranch over. They weren’t used to shoot him, just find him. That’s a grey area. In that incident, arguably, the use of the UAV prevented bloodshed because they were able to verify where the guy was and go in and get him. But what if they start being used to shoot “bad” people? What would have happened if they were available during the Waco incident?
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They may be able to control the larger populated areas, but with such a huge landmass as our republic is and a bunch of gun totin’ rednecks out in the boonies they will be s–t out of luck! They can’t even get Afghanistan under control and how big is that.
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They used UAV in North Dakota to arrest the guy. I am uneducated on how good they are at identification of individuals. Not sure if they only see a heat signiture. But for the number of “stragglers” out in the country and mountains, I am not sure they will every have enough to monitor movements. I have thought they were like police helicopters, once they had eyes on someone they could then follow the signiture, but did not have the ability to id someone. I may be wrong. I know they can carry an explosive but not sure if they have attached guns yet either.
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All UAV’s are tethered at the operator…kill the head and the body will follow….cut the tether…easy-peasy
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BA, you read my mind. While they may have thousands of UAVs, they only have a few places where they control them from. Also, you think the people that control them will turn them against their kinfolk? Think OathKeepers once again!
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“What would have happened if they were available during the Waco incident?”
Good question. My question would be, “Could Waco or Ruby Ridge have been any more f***ed up? If not, then adding some drones to the mix would not have mattered.
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Good to hear from you MdO.
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So what is the scenario?
Jack Boots comes to your door and demands your guns?
Yes sirs, here you go? NOT!
You say no, then what?
Jacks come in, turn your place upside down and leave with your weapons?
Or do you have to see them coming and have a showdown?
All the above sounds unacceptable at best and not a good outcome.
Best would be grapevine telling everyone in the neighborhood to fend off Jacks at a distance?
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Booby trap your house and go out the back as they come in. You will have time to set things up. Once it starts, you WILL hear about it and have plenty of time to get ready before they get to you.
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good point on that. Think if a swat team came into your home and you live in a split foyer and you remove the 2×6 or 2×6 beams underneath it, when they came in the only thing holding it up would be plywood and the floor would come crashing in and throw their rythim off and they would be disoriented for a few sec. Anoter way is to and this is not practicle but if you could take a fishing line attacted to magnets that once the door opened the line breaks and lights 5-10 firework morters that you launch in tubes. if those go off the intruder will be in complete chaos and will be disoriented. that is a good way too but the place will burn down. you get the point.
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lol..homeade flashbangs.I like it.
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Fine steel wool and black powder in an incandescent light bulb. There are hundreds of ways to make trip switches to light it off. It would probably burn the place down as well but I believe it would cause urine soaked underwear.
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there are millions of homes and way too many people for this to work. they are going to try and fool the dumb ones to give weapons up for their own good. even if you had lets say 6 jack boots comming down the street they cant break into your home and you should never ever let them in, too many small firefights and sniper shots from everywhere is too dangerous for them to just patrol into everyones homes if SHTF. Things would be really crazy and don’t think it will ever be like New Orleans bastards did. IF you see that comming into your neighborhood, remember to shoot not from your property but another place, they will radio the address and location and soon have many more on you. so if you have to engage someone make sure you throw them off from where you live. you dont want them to overpower you. A head shot with a .22 is eazy and accurate and quiet. Another thing get the fight over quickly and fast with multiple people you can trust. You dont want anybody calling in for backup in that neighborhood. Hide what you can and people so it causes more confusion to backup if it comes.
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Eric… you’re talking like you’re gonna survive a Jack Booted Home Invasion and live to fight another day. The odds against that are long. The trick is to make their thuggery as expensive as possible. If they lose 2-3 men every time they try to steal our guns, they will soon give up on the idea. Yes, a lot of patriots will die opposing this tyranny but that’s the price we may need to pay to be free. That’s where our real power is and not in duking it out with them on an equal basis, ’cause there’s nothing equal about it.
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Eric’s got the right idea but yes, can’t let the thugs have a fair fight, gotta keep making it expensive for them to operate. I’m all in favor of plinking their toys before actually “harvesting” them, give ‘em a chance to re-consider thuggery as a career choice. When the police cars keep developing mysterious bullet holes in sensitive places like the radiator and gas tank, when their radio antennas and repeaters keep failing, when their fun toys keep ….. breaking …. burning up …. disappearing …. etc., and make it clear that you *could* have put one right behind their ear but instead chose just under the radiator cap ….. that’s how to win the winnable hearts and minds.
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“Poorly hidden” trip wires made of fishing line would slow things down, even if they don’t end up causing a bang. Who wants to assume they are all fake?
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@ eric 4:01 p.m.
With respect, “… even if you had lets say 6 jack boots coming down the street they can’t break into your home….” Why couldn’t they? Maybe your neighborhood is an armed camp of like minded preppers who are willing to fight the PTB then and there. If so, yours is a rare neighborhood. Secondly, take a look at the Fire Store, or Galls, or other sites marketed to fire fighters and LEO. Rescue squads have various tools, manpowered or otherwise, meant to break into structures [very] fast. If they came for you at 0300 they could be in before you woke up. Lastly, why presume 6 LEO? Why not 12 or 20 or a National Guard platoon? The average residence just isn’t designed to be a fortress. IR motion lights and thorny plants might stop bobby burglar but they aren’t going to stop a determined confiscation. best regards,
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@anonymous,
You are right; there are other tactics that our oppressors are more likely to use. Widescale weapons confiscation will probably be preceded by all kinds of measures that should clue anyone who is awake to whats coming. Operations against suspected weapons caches or insurgent bombmakers when I was deployed often happened at night because of the technological advantages our military has when it comes to fighting at night. With the increasing militarization of police forces the time might come when night raids using NVGs, body armor, flashbangs, and perimeter security will be SOP. I don’t think the National Guard would be used because they would be drawn from the populations they would be ordered to target and conflicts of loyalty might make it dangerous to arm them; they might just take over the armories full of weapons and equipment and join the resistance.
My view of a most likely scenario would be confiscation preceded by some kind of unimagineable false flag event that would be so repugnant to the average American that they would willingly turn in their weapons and turn in their neighbors who do not. Something like a simultaneous bombing of multiple federal buildings and decapitation attempts of the entire line of succession by a “patriot” group. Or nuclear terrorism on American soil by the same group of “patriots”. If the operation succeeded in killing sufficient numbers of children then the sheeple would demand weapons confiscation among the other measures so convienently presented for passage. When McVeigh blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City what sealed his doom was killing all the kids who were in a daycare inside the federal building. Those who could understand and sympathize with his striking back at the feds as revenge for what they did at Waco found it very difficult if not impossible to swallow the deaths of children. That will be the tool that will be used to disarm us.
I do not yet have a pair of NVGs and it is high on my list of items needing to be procured. When the false flag event occurrs then it will mean one of my family will always have to be on guard at night and that bunker under the house will have to be used for sleeping to buy a few precious minutes for escape when they come for us. A good solid concrete fence with a guard dog would be invaluable as well. I wouldn’t rely on the neighbors; they would be more likely to turn you in than be counted upon to stand guard while you sleep.
The point of my long winded post is you will have to be prepared in advance and you will know the time for confiscation is nigh because sheeple will be willingly turning in their weapons and turning in those who haven’t.
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Let em in, now they are right where you want em..and you now have the upper hand
Besides they will never find all of mine..they aint all here
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Old Polish joke: Why do Polish peasants dump motor oil on their gardens? They don’t want their guns to rust.
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@Steve,
Here is my opinion for what its worth. Jack booted police thugs show up at your door you are already too late. My own two cents is that if you can, a gate and solid wall around your property should be first line of defense against JBPTs. Let them beat uselessly against the gate for a while before they give up or come over the wall. If they come over the wall you have a choice to make because once you actively resist, you have become an unperson until the revolution is over. Killing a police thug will result in more of them showing up and with heavier weaponry. Kill enough of them and you will most likely be on the receiving end of a Predator or Reaper strike. If you have enough forwarning of door to door weapons confiscations then the ideal thing to do is remove a section of floor, tunnel under your house to a point where you can exit unseen, then when the police thugs show up, kill a few and retreat through your tunnel while they are calling in reinforcements. But I don’t think they will have the manpower for that kind of thing. Maybe door to door executions of registered gunowners and their families will be the more likely SOP after enough police thugs are killed trying to confiscate weapons. Of course you also have the option of meekly turning in your weapons and your hoarded food and obeying all the laws put in place for your protection by our benevolent elected protectors…
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“Of course you also have the option of meekly turning in your weapons and your hoarded food and obeying all the laws put in place for your protection by our benevolent elected protectors…”
Let’s see now… something about “it’s better to die on ones’ feet than to live on ones’ knees”. Does that ring a bell? It should.
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Ding!
BOOOOM!
If this starts happening (and I think they might actually try it until a few JBPTs die) its Revolution On. That will yank the tripline and we’ll move to the next step.
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sstop waitng for this signal or that signal… the gun has already gone off…. dont wait for it to get worse….if you havent figured it out yet.. consider it that you never will…. run before the BOOOOM happens buddy
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She Bought One!
Interesting read: http://www.elle.com/Life-Love/Society-Career-Power/Should-I-Buy-a-Gun
I bought ***, sold ZERO. My wife still says I can’t have too many guns.
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Saya a lot that such an article is even in a magazine such as this.
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Everyone with one is awake , and their minds are set like a room full of mouse traps. any attempt of grabbing one and they all go off.
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Sorry “great american Redoubt ” I accidentally thunb u dow damn iphone
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In my area, regular people like soccer moms, teachers, stay at home moms, small business owners, etc. are not only buying guns, but they are shooting them regularly, getting their CCP and stocking up on ammo.
At least people are waking up to the reality of increased crime. Perhaps they will wake up to the reality of our crashing economy soon too. Baby steps.
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It never ceases to amaze me…the armchair bravado of the patriot/prepper crowd. The military and law enforcement have an incredibly difficult time finding people who will actually pull the trigger and kill a man/woman. In combat less than 10% of soldiers have the presence of mind to pull the trigger and kill someone in a firefight. Most of the time they are so scared they’ve shit their pants and couldn’t hit a target at five yards, let alone fifty or a hundred.
I’m betting 95% of those posting here haven’t shot and killed a piece of game in their life, let alone taken a shot at a human being.
I would also contend that if and when the time comes that you will face that LEO/soldier/UN peacekeeper, you name it – you will freeze in your tracks. If you are lucky enough to get a couple of rounds off, they won’t be any closer than the general direction of the target. It isn’t quite as easy as you would like to believe – except in the movies like musheadroom tells you about.
A gun and the mere threat of using it against a perpetrator are oftentimes all it will take to resolve a situation. Let’s hope you won’t have to bury anyone, it won’t be something you’ll be bragging about afterwards, especially late at night when you are all alone with your thoughts in the dark. I would pray, and you should too, that you never find yourself in that position. – GMAFB
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that is why i would tell people to use a shotgun for home defense, a pistol is tricky and takes practice for most. even a lot of us lose control speed and accuracy without continous practice. You can’t think of the target as human, think of it as a system or however you will be able to. Unless you are on alert its harder to hit a target with fear, that jittery feeling you get is cortisol flowing thru your viens and artries. It takes a while to get it out of your system. Kind of like before you get into a fight you get that shaky feeling you have to breath in and out of your nose for 3 to 4 sec inhale exhale and do that for 3-4 min before you shoot. that will help block cortisol in the blood. Many times if your door comes kicking down and someone comes in your gonna freeze and you gotta learn to get out of that mode.
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Good post.
I shoot critters all the time, but you are right, most people haven’t, don’t, and probably can’t.
I was describing my cold-blooded killing of a rooster (not catachable so I used a .22 CB Long) and subsequent processing, and how delicious his heart and liver were right away, and the rest of him after some crockpot time, later. The guy I was telling about this just about turned green. I told him that he and his girlfriend are welcome to come over and we’ll hold a “chicken killing class” and so far they’ve not taken me up on it.
This used to be an everyday thing. Harvesting squirrels, all sorts of game.
A human being is not “game”, it’s of course a much more serious thing. Carlos Hathcock simply rationalized that every “Homer Hamburger” or “Homer Hotdog” he put down meant one more of his boys got to go home safe. That might not be such a bad way to think about it.
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Not in my neck of the woods, seems like the cops shoot someone weekly, INCLUDING VETS that didnt do $hit!!! Great post. I wanna bring up one point to you. Reading a blog from that guy that survived the city siege in yogoslovia the other day, He was responding to a comment, some one asked about lone-wolf military/police type. He said they were around, but they usually got shot in the back by grandpa. I am not criticizing what you said, just want to say, never underestimate anyone, even grandpa!
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You give people very little credit – you seems like a glass half full kind of person.
And, you might be surprised at just how vicious people – especially women – likely will be when they are directly protecting their family, their preps and their property.
We’ve never had to face something like that here – the civil war was close.
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Oh, Kevin. *shakes head*
There are a lot of sane, rational and intelligent women on there that will have serious issues with THAT particular comment.
I hope that isn’t an example of “normal thinking.”
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She’s like a lightning rod! Like a bell that wants to be dinged! Like an old car that wants to back fire! I’m a woman and I like men too.
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A big plus 1 Rich.
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God made some of them different, that fer sure. Mine minds well or out she goes. I don’t even have a man garage.
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Daisey,
Come home and be a good girl.
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Daisey,
Come home and we will visit your neice’s new hair salon. I’ll pay for a hair straightner.
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Bluto, I’m a realist. I am well armed, qualified and a good marksman. I am also a Vietnam era veteran and was military trained. I’ve been shooting guns and hunting all of my life.
I’m not saying that if you find yourself in a situation where you must defend yourself, your family or your precious preps, that you shouldn’t kill to do so. If there is no option left – by all means, pull the trigger. My weapon of choice for home defense is a short barrel Remington 870 with 00 buckshot, although wall penetration can be an issue for innocent bystanders.