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    The Massive Conspiracy Designed to Separate You From Your Children

    Dave Hodges
    August 17th, 2013
    Common Sense Show
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    SHTFplan Editor’s note: Through new health care legislation and international treaties the government is progressively gaining more power over parents and their children. We can pretend this isn’t happening in America, but just recently a two year old died while in the custody of child protective services in Texas, and 78 children completely vanished while in the care of Oklahoma Human Services. Every day across this country children are being taken from their parents for any number of non-violent, non-threatening reasons, often on trumped up charges or at the whim of their Child Protective Services representative.

    In the following article, Dave Hodges of The Common Sense Show outlines the strategies being implemented to strengthen the power of the state and how this poses a direct threat to your family. 

    The question now becomes: how far will America’s parents let them go? Where do we draw the line?

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    “We are from HHS and we are here to help you”

    The Mother of All Conspiracies Aimed At Our Children
    By Dave Hodges

    There is presently a massive conspiracy designed to separate you from your children and give the government complete control over your children. To put it simply, Human, Health and Services (HHS) and their state level emissary, Children Protective Services (CPS) are engaged in a conspiracy which will culminate in (1) the Agenda 21 designed breakdown of the family; (2) the eradication of any semblance of parental authority over children; and, (3) unbridled and unfettered access to seizing children from the home in unlimited quantities for whatever nefarious purposes which might dictate the volume of child seizures.

    The Plot Is International Begins with the UN

    This program emanates from a partnership between various United Nations organizations and ICF, acting on behalf of HHS, CPS and Obamacare (i.e. The Affordable Health Care Act). The evidence in this article, along with the included links, will demonstrate that when Obamacare is fully operational, our families, specifically our children will be living in a Romanian type of a Ceausescu hellish nightmare.

    Romanian dictator, Nicolae Ceausescu, seized hundreds of thousands of children from stable families under the pretense that these children had disabilities which could only be treated by the government. In reality, this madman planned to use the seized children, raised in government orphanages, for military and state purposes. Three hundred thousand children were raised in these state run orphanages (Romanian encyclopedia.adoption.com). Had Ceausescu survived, the vast majority of these children would have been useless to him because there were functionally retarded due to severe neglect.

    After reviewing HHS, CPS and UN documents I have no doubt that Obamacare has the same goals and intentions as Ceausescu. What is being presently reported in the alternative media is merely the tip of the iceberg with regard to HHS’ intentions toward the ultimate outcome of the children in this country. After reviewing the documents, there is no doubt that Obama is representing international interests which will seek to remove as many children as possible from the homes of their parents in the spirit of Ceausescu. I freely admit that what I am about to reveal here has made me lose sleep and for the first time contemplate the real possibility of a revolution against the bankers who have hijacked our government. I cannot see parents submitting to this tyranny without a fight.

    But first let me quickly review the recent revelations of the HHS/CPS/Obamacare intention to conduct what I have dubbed as “home invasion interventions.”

    Obamacare Home Invasions and Interventions

    According to a previously unreported Obamacare regulation, that has managed to escape “scrutiny” from the mainstream media, millions of American families will be targeted for home invasion by the forces of the Federal government in the name of preventing parental neglect resulting in disabilities in their children. And the Fourth Amendment be damned, after January 1, 2014, Federal officials may enter your home without a warrant in order to “intervene” for the purpose of saving “high risk” children.

    Obamacare’s Definition of High Risk

    The exposure of the extreme and intrusive nature of Obamacare through home invasion visits is finally seeing the light of day in the alternative media. However, this exposure is grossly understated. As a starting point, I will briefly review what is making the rounds in the alternative media. According to Human Health Services, your family is eligible for this Soviet style for “intervention” in the following situations:

    1. Families where mom is not yet 21.

    2. Families where someone is a tobacco user.

    3. Families where children have low student achievement, developmental delays, or disabilities.

    4. Families with individuals who are serving or formerly served in the armed forces, including such families that have members of the armed forces who have had multiple deployments outside the United States.

    5. Although this is not being widely reported, homeschoolers and their families will be targeted for “interventions” as will be families who object to having their children take vaccines.

    There is no question that all of the above categories, will warrant a home invasion followed by “remediation.”  The visits will not be conducted by HHS officials as has been reported in several publications. The home invasion visits will be conducted by CPS on behalf of HHS.

    HHS has designed a detailed 110 page policy manual which focuses on the criteria constituting child neglect. This policy manual which is the guide created by HHS for CPS’ home intervention visits makes the above criteria, presently being reported in the alternative media, look tame by comparison.

    HHS, CPS and the Criminalization of Parenthood 

    In the 110 page HHS/CPS manual, the variables which comprise child neglect, worthy of government intervention is frightening beyond any words I can find to express their undisguised intentions. This entire document which will serve as the field manual by CPS in support of Obamacare undermines parental authority to a level that is beyond belief.

    How many of you were ever grounded by your parents and not permitted to play outside with your friends? This is now illegal under the HHS/CPS policy manual. They label the treatment as neglect by isolation. There are not time frames set forth which constitutes isolation and it is left to the field representative. This obviously erodes parental discipline.

    If your child is judged to be underachieving in school, this is referred to as educational neglect and is worthy of governmental intervention. Further, if your child is absent for five days in any one month from school, the same allegation would be made against the parent.

    If your child has ADD or ADHD, you could be accused of neglect because the document details how this can be somehow caused by poor nutrition, although the variables associated with the cause are not specified.

    The document goes out of its way to specify that poverty and neglect are not inextricably linked. Then the document goes out of its way to link poverty with child neglect. Read between the lines America. As we already are aware, many poor children who go missing from scandals such as the Second Mile Foundation, the Franklin Scandal and the latest scandal with the 78 missing wards of the state in Oklahoma, frequently end up being put into child sex trafficking rings operated and funded by such notables as DynCorps and HSBC bank.

    Of course, no Obama inspired program would be complete without an attack upon the Second Amendment. Obamacare is no exception as one of the criteria for child neglect  are parents who are also gun owners.

    The presence of alcohol in the home is a trigger for an allegation of neglect and subsequent “intervention.” Of course, alcoholic parents can present a clear and present danger to a child’s well-being. However, in the policy manual the conditions for concern over alcohol do not detail the amount and percentage of the family resources involved necessary to obtain alcohol. In other words, one can of beer in the home can be considered to constitute child neglect by the Obamacare CPS fieldworker.

    If your child has engages in any type of illicit or criminal behavior, your family is at risk. Raise your hands if you ever smoked pot before the age of 18, or drank as a teen, or engaged in any kind of sexual activity before the age of 18, ever stayed out past curfew, or ever shoplifted? IF your children ever engages in these and a multitude of other transgressions, you are in danger of losing your children. This also means that if your child is ever involved in a fight in school or is assigned detention, the school will be required to report the behavior to the HHS/CPS and you can expect to have a “home invasion intervention” session with your friendly Obamacare CPS fieldworker.

    If you are ever late picking up your child from daycare or from school aftercare, you will be reported.

    If you have ever been depressed or have been treated for any mental disorder (e.g. PTSD, anxiety, etc.), you are at risk for losing your children.

    Even illegal immigrant families are not immune from this insanity. Children are judged by the field worker to not be fully acculturated, do not properly speak the language, exhibits signs of being homesick and is judged to have not formed an unspecified number of friends and formed a cohesive social network, allegations of neglect can be made.

    I could literally write 10 more pages on what CPS/HHS, on behalf of Obamacare, considers to be parental neglect. I would invite the reader to spend some time reviewing the document which will be serving as the policy manual for the forced home inspections. Please note that when the reader gets beyond the flowery language and professed concern for children, that the language is written so broadly that virtually any human condition, any family circumstance or child’s behavior can be interpreted as child neglect.

    The important thing to note is the use of language by this manual. Parents who are deemed by an Obamacare CPS field worker, operating under the HHS flag, to be neglectful towards their children are considered to have created “disabilities” within their children. As the reader will soon discover, the use of the term “disabilities” is key to understanding how far this administration is willing to go to seize children for some nefarious purpose.

    Sadly, this is still only the beginning. There is far more to be concerned about beginning with who is ultimately responsible for these outrages.

    Meet the Creators of the State Sponsored Child Kidnapping Rings

    The primary author for this insane manual for HHS/CPS and their designed home invasion interventions is Diane DePanfilis, Ph.D., M.S.W.  She is the Associate Dean for. Research and an Associate Professor of Social Work at the University of Maryland.  More importantly she is a co-editor of theHandbook on Child Protection Practice. In other words, DePanfills has been a major player in the unconstitutional practices we see in CPS in all 50 states. As if this is not concerning enough, all of the other contributing authors have their professional origins and affiliations with the same organization.

    Lindsay Ritter Taylor      from Caliber, an  ICF  International Company

    Matthew Shuman, M.S.W,  A consultant with Caliber, an ICF International Company

    Jean  Strohl,  A consultant with Caliber, an ICF International Company,

    Jeannie Newman, M.S.W,  M.I.B.S.,  A consultant with Caliber, an ICF International Company

    It was at this point, I smelled a rat. We have the primary author being a CPS author designed to teach their field operatives on the methods of how to abuse parents and undermine parental authority. And all of the contributing authors come from the exact same corporation, ICF. At this point, it is prudent to ask the question, who is ICF?

    ICF Is the Biggest Player That You Have Never Heard Of

    ICF International partners with government and commercial clients to deliver consulting services and technology solutions in climate change, energy, environment, transportation, social programs, defense, and homeland security markets. In my mind, this established ICF as a major player in the introduction and implementation of the globalist agenda by designing matching Federal programs. And as it turned out they are a major player in Obamacare through their subsidiary acquisition, Caliber Associates.

    Caliber is an “established leader in providing research, consulting, and innovation in human services and human resource issues.” ICF acquired Caliber in 2005 in order “to serve HHS, the U.S. Department of Justice, the U.S. Department of Defense, and the U.S. Department of Education.”  Caliber Associates and their four contributing authors to the HHS/CPS field manual, which will be used to enforce child welfare regulations, was the undeniable link to Obamacare through this field manual. But as I discovered, the rabbit hole went even deeper.

    After I found the co-authors of the HHS/CPS policy manual which will guide these forced home inspections, I smelled the distinct odor of the United Nations and Agenda 21 and sure enough, this was exactly what I found.

    The United Nations and Obamacare

    unAt times, I feel that I have the globalist playbook and I am able to often anticipate their next move. Please allow me to briefly illustrate how the globalists have operated in another area, education, and then draw the parallel to how the UN is deeply involved in Obamacare.

    The Common Core Curriculum, which is sweeping the nation’s education system, was the product of “Education for All.”  Education for All comes from the United Nations education arm, the United Nations Educational Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). Common Core went from UNESCO to the National Governors Association who in turn farmed out the development of the details to various NGO’s which in turn sent the standards to each state for implementation. This is the standard model that the globalists follow when implementing a controversial program and Obamacare follows a similar pattern as did Common Core.

    There is no doubt that the provisions of allegedly protecting children in Obamacare, originated with the United Nations

    In the United Nations document entitled, Human Rights, Persons with Disabilities, ICF and the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (Training toolkit), implementation for programs designed to help people, children in particular, with disabilities, came from the World Health Organization (WHO) [Page  36], UNESCO [Page 37], the International Labour Organization (ILO) [Page 36] and theUnited Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF)[Page 38]. As one can see from the title, ICF and the UN have partnered to protect people/children with disabilities.

    Conclusion

    Please remember that earlier in the article, I made the point that the HHS/CPS field manual referred to neglected children as children who have disabilities. It is quite apparent that any of the conditions listed in the HHS/CPS manual will produce children who have disabilities. And in the case of Ceausescu, in which he seized hundreds of thousands of children who had “disabilities” and planned to use them for purposes of the state, the same picture is beginning to emerge with regard to Obamacare and the home invasion visits. I can draw no other conclusion than Obamacare is state sponsored child slavery.

    Under Obamacare, virtually every aspect of parenting is criminalized. Any child can be considered to have a disability for which the state is the only legitimate treatment source. When Obama was first running for President in 2008, he promised to build a civilian security force that “was just as strong, just as well-funded as our military.” And when one combines this conspiracy with Obama’s Executive Order 13603 which calls for a mandatory civilian conscription to complement a coming military draft, it is clear that this lunatic is planning to enslave a large segment of the population and he will obtain many of his conscripts from Obamacare. And many of you who are familiar with Agenda 21 and their expressed views toward parental rights and the rights of children, do not need me to make connect the dots, you already have done so.

    My advice to all parents, don’t answer the door on New Year’s Day on 2014 when Obamacare begins to be implemented.

    I cannot see any way out of this dilemma than to resist through the use of force. The Obamacare goons will NOT gain entry into my home while I am still breathing. I predict that HHS/CPS will soon be armed because they will, and should, meet massive resistance from the citizens.

    America, we must resist this heinous tyranny with every means at our disposal.

    Some will undoubtedly say that violence is not the answer and I have agreed with that sentiment in every case, until now.

    However, I will fight to defend to my family. Will you?


    Dave Hodges is an award winning psychology, statistics and research professor, a college basketball coach, a mental health counselor, a political activist and writer who has published dozens of editorials and articles in several publications such as Freedom Phoenix, News With Views, and The Arizona Republic. 

    The Common Sense Show features a wide variety of important topics that range from the loss of constitutional liberties, to the subsequent implementation of a police state under world governance, to exploring the limits of human potential. The primary purpose of The Common Sense Show is to provide Americans with the tools necessary to reclaim both our individual and national sovereignty. You can follow Dave’s work at his web site, on Facebook and Twitter.

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    1. clint hospo says:

      if they do this, this will be without a doubt enough is enough and people will start a civil war over this. we will see I guess.

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      • OutWest says:

        Nothing is sacred nor is anyone exempt from the
        all encompassing clutches of Obama the Destroyer.

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        • wrong says:

          Obama the Destroyer… Staring Arnold Schwarze nigger.

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          • Be informed says:

            I have said this before, the un is the worthless liability ever put on this planet. It is even worse than the league of nations. IF there is some demonic force from some other universe and there is some sort of stargate it will enter through the un doors. The un has only one plan, to enslave each and every person on the Earth that is not part of the top elite group. Hell, those bastards at the un even want to enslave your dog.

            The old break up the family. WHY? Family and friends offer security but more importantly to the bad guy this unit of family and friends offers STRENGTH. The evil takes away a reason to fight, it is far easier to shove the cattle prod up someone’s butt, or put the nose ring in someone. These evil characters want to hold your family as hostage like some terrorist would. They go after the weak belly of people, and that is what truly means something to them, their family. Someone is way more likely to give up their firearms when their son and/or daughter is at risk of being taken away from them. These rotting POS’s know this.

            This is the definition of pure evil, un of course, but also those that use your deepest concern and love for your family and friends against you to obtain their agenda and objective. Can’t say enough how the second that you see those un blue hats coming in to subjugate and assimilate you, it is time to fiercely defend everyone around you just like a full scale invasion but that is exactly what it is.

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            • Guero says:

              What’s the motive? The breakup of the family – or turning the family against the state? Sorry BI, but I think the second is more likely.

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              • Be informed says:

                @ Guero. I think the government would do anything to break up any type of cohesion of what is keeping them from total control of everyone. The strongest unit other than oneself is family. Breaking morale of people and the will is something that is necessary as part of this authoritarian process. Look back in history as this was a common tactic of many regrimes. The government is an awful master of mind games. The main control of the un and the NWO is to have a bunch of automatons that obey without question and think like the state wants them to.

                Number one of the list of evil is total distraction from what they are actually up to. As long as you can keep everyone guessing and follow what path they want them to, they can get away with anything. We will see just how rotten it gets with the next false flag. Just never underestimate how deep evil can go, and that practically anything is possible with this government and especially with the totally worthless un.

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                • BigB says:

                  Hey BI,

                  I think I have an idea of what all this is about.

                  Once again the liberal socialist obamamites have thrown out there again another agitation to get some people to get wreckless and do some thing stupid.

                  Examples: Attacking the Tea Party as describing them as far right extremist, The Trayvon Martin deal, trying to ignite a race riot. THere are more example as well.

                  And now for the why of it: All for an excuse to declare martial law and prepare the US for an invasion of the Blue hats. With Martial law we will already have been put into a defensive and undefendable mode. He could then declare himself as King for life and the elite will be guaranteed a place in his self made empire where all things can be assimilated and ditributed for the good of the nation.

                  That’s just my take.

                  BigB

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                • The United Nations represents now, the same old Serpent that it did long ago right before the flood.
                  Nimrod’s infamous tower to heaven is again, almost complete.
                  Satan ALWAYS goes for the family, like a Lion to the throat of its prey.

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              • InsanityISContagious says:

                If you believe in evil, you must then believe that evil intends to destroy anything that is good such as the family unit. You are truly involved in the end times.

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                • sixpack says:

                  What I’d like to know, is how EXACTLY do they choose the kids they will later target for removal. From what I’ve seen myself, it appears they aren’t interested in helping TRULY abused children. Instead, they seem to target more well behaved, healthy kids for removal.

                  How do they REALLY determine which kids they want?

                  I wonder if there’s any correlation to the mandatory DNA sampling of newborns. You know, they find a genetically superior child and decide he/she should be raised by someone more suitable than a poor, single mother. This entire manual sounds very ‘elitist’ to me, and really has little to do with what’s best for a family.

                  I wonder how many of the seized children had certain, similar DNA profiles. We already know that this isn’t about the kid’s well-being, so what’s really going on?

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              • SonOfSam says:

                @guero

                What’s the motive? Simple: TOTAL control over all people, in ALL aspects of their lives. This is what TOTALitarian governments always aim for, and its why they cannot ever allow any independent voices other to be heard other than their own. Totalitarian regimes are compelled to crush any organization outside of their own, whether its an opposition political party, alternative media, a church that worships GOD and not the government, or a family whose members love one another, and not the “Dear Leader”

                Next question!

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            • Swinging on a star says:

              If things don’t change soon then I will advise my children to not bring children into such a sick and vile world. I truly hope that this will be the catalyst to incite a revolt that will tear this regime to shreds.

              I would die keeping my kids away from their filthy hands and I know there are millions like me. If there was ever a reason to take a stand then this is it. This can not and will not be. Sick, vile, bastards, who the hell do they think they are. Just reading this article makes my blood boil more than anything else. Bring it on bitches, you have no idea what you have set yourselves up for, this aint Romania.

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              • black cat says:

                I am in complete agreement. Of all the things I read about the articles about our children being abused are the one’s that harden my heart the most . When I think of our most precious resource, their beauty and innocence being violated by the most vile creatures on this planet, that my friends is my line in the sand. When this practice begins we must as family, friends and communities be on 24 hour call to come to the aid of whomever needs us. These actions against our children bring me to animal rage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • laura m. says:

                I encourage everyone to ditch the gov schools, home school or put kids in a solid Christian school. Some areas have online education. Encourage your friends to ditch gov schools where they teach to accept world gov., any lifestyle, and the new crazy math, while avoiding to teach history.

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              • CWinOR says:

                I’ve read this article several times now. and i keep having the same reaction- I start gritting my teeth, stomach knots up, blood boils. they’re biting off waaaayyy more than they can chew, because if y’all are anything like me- it won’t be just my own kids I’ll be defending. this would instantly put a target on any level gov’t employee. they would all become fair game in an instant.

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            • Night breaker says:

              Guys,
              We are fighting an old enemy that has gone Trans national , some here blame people of a certain religion , but the truth is and bares witness to the fact that this is hard core NATIONAL SOCIALISM , what ever you have been told this form of oppression does not come from the far right, years of propaganda has had you believing this. This is a product of the left . This is not the kind of neo- nazism we have in this country which is based on racism and hate.
              This kind of naziism is anilatist , militarist , and oppressive.

              In 1945 Germany fell but the ring leaders fled in part due to our Goverment freedom for secrets deals Some fled to Spain, South America, South Africa . Where they borrowed themselves into international banking , illicit drug trades , weapons running , training foreign military (mostly middle eastern countries) and some were given new identities in US. Some even worked for various Goverment agencies. CIA , NSA, NASA, DOD, and the UNITED NATIONS (Kirt I am not a nazi Waldheim) et al.

              Not to sound like a loon Many of the so called UFO incidents of the 1950′s and 1960′s were nothing more than an advanced aircraft and propulsion system used to blackmail and intimidate the US for cash being flown from outside CONUS . A massive disinformation plan was implemented by our own government, We could not admit publicly that even though we won the war we lost the battle and these monsters still remained.
              We did not crush them , they just went transnational.

              Another fact 4 billion dollars (1945 dollars ) of reich gold was never recovered after the war.
              Within nazi Germany most of the industry , banking , and advanced research was controlled by the SS . They can be thought of an independent Goverment within the german government and a frightening fact they had a lot of support from some in this in this country in high places before the war. Look it up it’s there right in front of you.

              So much for the history lesson , it appears Obama or who ever is pulling his strings is following the same program it does not take much imagination to realize where this is all headed it instead of six million, this time it may be 200 million.

              I encourage evey reader of this blog to read the classic book “inside the Third Reich by William Scheir Sp ?
              This program sounds a lot like the program of Reichs Kinder ( children of the Reich).
              We are following the same path to hell outlined in this book.

              I think I have said enough about this for now , working in and around government R&D First job before the 2008 down turn , I have heard the stories
              Seen some things that were down right odd. For OPSEC I do not think I can say anymore without placing myself or my family in harms way.
              This is not a joke or conspiracy story this is as real as daylight , these are the people we face now they have waited and their spawn have aspired to power here .

              Prepare , a lot depends on how we face these challenging times , be brave , speak the truth

              REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE

              RESIST

              Semper Fi 8541

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            • Yuri says:

              Hate to break this to people; but the “gay marriage” issue is part and parcel of the strategy to give the State total control over children.

              Not homosexuality per se, mind you, but specifically “gay marriage”.

              If there is no normal, traditional family; then the family unit is broken. But, this is different from the breakdown of the family among inner-city blacks, because in that case there is, at least, a mother who retains control and “ownership” of her own children.
              With “gay marriage” comes the dissolution of all familial bonds. There is no definable “father” and there is no definable “mother” either. Whose kids are they, then?
              Answer: They belong to the State.
              Laws regarding alimony, inheritance, wills and estates, and CHILD CUSTODY and CHILD WELFARE will be rewritten and re-interpreted to give default control and ownership to the State. After all, “mother” and “father” and “family” will no longer be things with real meaning, so how can they have legal standing?

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          • OutWest says:

            Great addendum, Wrong—wish I had thought of that. LOL

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          • Iowa says:

            Obama is by far the worst white President ever!

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        • Outlaw says:

          This is a line to not be crossed.

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          • rainyday says:

            There are many things that i can tolerate to some degree, but the taking of my kids is the line i will not allow to be crossed. Thats the fastest way for me to start shooting! Not just those that come to my door, but those who are responsible for the thugs coming to my door. You make those bastards think twice about taking peoples kids by being more brutal than the state!

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          • It has already been crossed. Read the alternative news stories. They are already doing it. Any single family alone can not stop it and there is no one in the streets calling for this to stop. When will you stand up? When they come to your door? Wake up people. This is a government plan that is multifaceted and they are following it down line by line and we are just watching them do it. Raise energy prices and taxes on energy while cutting supply. Check. Stop maintaining roads and bridges, waterlines and electric supply systems. Check. Write volumes of regulations so that anybody can be found guilty of anything and put in jail. Check. Write medical care bill that allows for government control of healthcare, calls for mandatory immunizations and calls for RFID chipping of the people. Check. And on and on it goes. All based on government documents some of which were written back in the 1940s. It was all laid out and they are following it and we watch. And by keeping it out of the media and not proceeding too fast they can cook the frog slowly so it won’t jump out of the pot. And they are organized and have a detailed plan. And they are following it. What are we doing besides typing online? What can be done? Do you trust your Senator to fight this or are they part of it. Most are or it could not proceed.

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          • angrycitizen says:

            Just curious…

            Say, for example, only 10% of parents decide to fight for their children (I doubt it will be such a low percentage, but just for the sake of an argument)…

            Statistically, about 50% of American households own guns.

            I bet that 100% of those who would be willing to resist, are gun owners, but let’s respect statistics, and cut down the percentage of resistors by half.

            We have 5% of parents who will fight to the death for their families.

            That makes: every 20th raid to remove a child from the family will result if fierce resistance.

            Now… fuck statistics.
            Let’s think logically.

            If a father (and possibly: a mother, and maybe older children as well) have just lost their lives trying to protect their little Jimmy or Kathy from being forcibly kidnapped from them…

            … can you imagine what their relatives will do?

            And, what will their neighbors do, who have just witnessed their friends being slaughtered for no good reason at all?..

            I would pray for poor souls of those who work for HHS/CPS and their supporting jackbooted thugs.
            Because within several days from the first bloodsheds, they would be wiped out, in most horrible imaginable ways, and hanged from the trees.
            I would also imagine that anyone who would try to remove them from the trees until emotions settle down a notch, would also be eliminated, as enemy collaborators.

            The way things are developing now…
            I expect someone to “snap”, or “lose it” any time soon.
            The powers that be are freaking out.
            For a good reason.

            I have an almost physical feeling that we are sitting on a powder keg…

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            • John says:

              Well now we know what DHS will be using their 1.6 billion rounds of ammo for. ;(

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              • sixpack says:

                it sounds like they may need every one of them.

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                • angrycitizen says:

                  Yet I don’t think they have enough.

                  My personal message to TPTB would be:

                  “Good luck! [Not really, just trying to be polite…
                  If you truly believe that your armored vehicles, full-auto AR-15s, jackbooted thugs, drones with Hellfiles, and whatever else you’ve got for me, are a match for ME, and me alone, if and when you try to steal my kids…

                  … you are indeed so fucking dumb, that you will deserve the Darwin award that you’ll get when I am done with you.

                  And, honestly, motherfuckers, PRAY that my wife is not at home when you come to get our kids… because in that case even *I* will go into hiding… you know, just in case… hell hath no fury…”

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        • Dick says:

          I’m sorry but unless CPS is different everywhere else then this is total B.S.!
          Truly one of the most incompetent of all government programs, which is saying a lot.
          They can’t protect kids who truly need protecting, so now they are going to be watching thousands of kids from government targets.
          There are not enough foster parents now and no orphanages.
          I mean there are still a majority of people that are still keeping their head in the sand but if this starts even the clueless will be engaged.
          Besides they already have 50 million Americans on the dole, many of them children and more each day.
          I think I will file this theory.

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          • CWinOR says:

            quite obviously Dick- you missed the point of this article entirely. and actually, you even made the argument in SUPPORT of the article. as the article points out- IT ISN’T ABOUT “PROTECTING” THE KIDS! it is about CONTROL.

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            • Forrest says:

              This is all very, very scarey!! But didn’t a similar thing occur when white men entered this country, took over, and kidnapped Native American children from their parents, sent them to Catholic schools, where they were indoctrinated into the white mans’ ways? And along the way, were often raped, beaten, abused in other ways?

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              • CWinOR says:

                your use of the word “but” in your second sentence implies (intended or not) excusing this away. are you trying to say this is some kind of karmic payback, and therefore OK? bottom line- I don’t give a f**k how it is justified by ANYBODY- it will not be allowed. come for my kid, or my neighbors kids- you’ll die horribly. and when possible- SLOWLY. perhaps once they’ve prayed to their god (Satan) long enough for the sweet release of Hell- I’ll let them die. but not until i’ve taken the most precious thing in life away from them- hope.

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                • DRD5508 says:

                  CWinOr, becareful. Be angry but leave room for God’s vengance. Me, I’ll end it quick for them, I find no entertainment in them suffering. Quicker I finish with one, the more time I have for additional ones. We have to be quick and decisive, this puts more fear in an individual than torture. Torture can lead to anger and I’d rather my enemy be in fear.

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              • Those weren’t white men…they were Spanish and portugese…and who didn’t the catholics enslave or murder to enrich and broaden her control…youre comparing apples and oranges…

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            • Dick says:

              No shit?
              And I am saying that CPS can’t control their own bowels let alone a bunch of kids from folks the government finds offensive.
              Quite obviously you have never been involved with CPS or perhaps you live in the one place they are on the ball.
              So be careful about shouting Cwin.
              Because one of the elements the government has that does work may be a problem for you.
              Still filing this item under garbage.

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              • CWinOR says:

                file it wherever you want. but DON’T call me a liar- or issue veiled threats like “Because one of the elements the government has that does work may be a problem for you.” why? do you work for them? want to pay me a visit?
                Not only have I had dealings with them- my ex will probably have to deal with them tomorrow, when she takes my daughter up north to a state-run children’s hospital that has CPS stationed on staff. in fact- they’ll probably be waiting to talk to her shortly after arriving. consider that you may be misconstruing what to you appears as incompetence, when they have a different agenda than what you appear to think- “protecting” kids. but again- file it wherever.

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        • Cameraman says:

          Its too damn bad Obama will not meet the Same Fate as Ceausescu, this country needs a Enema, and the People are going to be the Doctor!

          Semper Fi

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      • Rodster says:

        At some point people will reach the breaking point. Unfortunately it will be too late by then. How about the mother who had her infant KIDNAPPED by the DHHS because she was having trouble breatfeeding her baby and used goats milk instead.

        We are seeing society breakdown but since the gubmint and the UN has done such a wonderful job of ensaring us in their grid most won’t say a word. That was the gubmint’s plan all along.

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        • laura m. says:

          Rodster: all thru history, women used goat or sheeps milk if they couldn’t produce milk. It’s very close to human milk. Folks: don’t tell Dr.’s anything personal like using herbs, etc. but ok to mention multiple vit. and calcium,vit D..but no more, in case they write in your records you could be hypochondriac, OCD, etc. Older Dr’s less likely to be nosy, younger ones are pill pushers more so.

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          • Be your own doctor…learn herbs…find an expert who knows the ropes…get to a place where a doc is only for trauma…serious trauma…Ive even set my own broken bones…it can be done…if you want to close that door to the govt coming into your life then unhook as much as you can!

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            • Eventually there may be some physicians that go rogue. I have read that many have plans to retire from practice because of the new obamacare. If any are reading this, please consider. In the future, I imagine that most of what we do will be considered illegal. In my opinion, there are some things that God will not consider illegal. One of those will be caring for the sick or injured. Another feeding the hungry. We will be blessed for it. I continue to prep, with the hope that God will multiply my food, medical supplies and knowledge.

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      • Rodster says:

        How convenient that Samantha Powers is Ambassador to the UN. :P

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      • elcid-77 says:

        Its not civil war if you are opposing an occupation.

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      • I hope the cps workers like having their heads blown off, being dismembered and buried in a field. Because that is exactly what will happen when they visit me.

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        • CWinOR says:

          Totally agree…except for the burying part. hang them from trees, highway overpasses, out windows, and put signs on the rotting corpses, that THIS is what happens to people who work for the occupiers. perhaps take a lesson or two from the mexican cartels- dump their hacked up corpses in town square at night with signs on them.

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        • DRD5508 says:

          They will come with LEOs. Especially after the first cps dog is killed or they suspect guns in the house. My grandaughter was asked about guns in the house. Her response was priceless: “What do guns look like?” Yes, I’ve dealt with cps and I also know you don’t have to allow them into your house. So what if they change the law under Obullcare, that care isn’t constitutional either. We are under full attack, no hidden agendas, the agendas are in full view.

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      • JustMe says:

        If it is not clear to anyone by now, that the ultimate goals of these parasites, and thier lackies, is your enslavement, and eventual death, at thier whims, you may want to coinsider taking a closer look at what is going on around you.

        How far will they go? They will go as far as you let them, then they will demonize you if you dare resist. They will not hesitate to kill you if they want to now, all they have to say is “I felt threatened.” They will then assasinate your character with a 30 second sound bite, then your “nieghbors” will go back to thier egularly scheduled programming.

        One of thier major goals in all of this is White Genocide, whether anyone wants to face it or not. Right now, that is going on all around this country and in Europe, but not a peep about it from the controlled MSM. Then, enslavement of whoever is left when they are done.

        But wait! I have an idea! We can all “vote”, and install more rinos in the next “election”! That will save America…

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        • Don’t forget to write letters, and leave messages for the state con-gress and reprehensibles, I mean representatives…those letters and calls really help!! <—sarcasm

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        • Cano says:

          Amen to that. If you aren’t doing so already, prepare for ground combat ops, learn the tools and techniques used by your potential enemies and use themjust as they’re used against us. These pigs will NEVER stop till you’re enslaved or dead, what do you have to lose? Stand and FIGHT!

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      • JayJay says:

        EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
        IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
        Thursday, January 10, 1963……1963 Communist Goals

        11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.√

        15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.√

        17. Get control of the schools.√

        20. Infiltrate the press.√

        25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.√

        26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”√

        27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.√

        28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools.√

        31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history.√

        39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control.√

        41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.√√√

        Our congress has not only allowed this, but helped this get achieved.

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      • OffTheGrid says:

        I completely disagree. Parents have been disconnected from their children for at least three generations now. You can thank the progressive hippies for allowing them to “fly free” from inception to Mother Earth. I know. It happened in my family. Twice. I’m detatched from my progressive siblings. By choice. Thank G_d!
        You only need to see how disconnected parents are from what’s being taught in gubbermint schools. In a normal mindset, they would stay on top of it and would have yanked them out ages ago and we would have a 50% homeschooling rate, or higher. Believe me, Cloward-Piven has been working for a long time and zero has changed, or will.
        They have been conditioned for “the greater good” for sooo long, they not only have already lost their kids, but their souls and the very core of their being.

        Nope, no civil war over the theft of the youth. They’re already gone. The parents fostered the weakness, and will reap what they’ve sown. Big time.

        “Your child belongs to us already. . . . What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

        ~Hitler 1933

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        • laura m. says:

          Off Grid: you’re so right; me and other friends have little to do with siblings also, who have no standards for anything, except having a good time and living a shallow existence. Even their kids are disconnected from parents.

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          • Annie Oakley says:

            laura m. – I thought I was the only one estranged from siblings and some family members. Sadly many of them voted for Obummer in 2008 and 2012. They’re stupid and brainwashed.

            They’re perfect tools of the system. In debt up to their ass, no survival skills, willing to go along with anything they are told (even if it’s ludicrous or insane) and emotionally and physically malnourished.

            I’ve gotten into screaming matches with my brother. It doesn’t work. He can’t or won’t see.

            It’s very sad, but it is what it is.

            So for now, my husband and I have friends that are like minded patriots that can see. If family wants to wake up, fine, but my contact with both sides are very limited.

            Not only that, I don’t trust my family or my in-laws to snitch in the future for any perceived so called “wrong” in order to get food or goodies.

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      • This will never lead to a civil war. It will be implemented so methodically and slowly that people will say “it happened to the guy across town who was abusing his kids” until it happens to them. By then it will be too late.

        Just look at what they are doing with guns. Demonize people with felonies and take their rights away from them. Demonize people who commit “domestic violence” then lower the standard of what is domestic violence to raising your voice and take their rights away from them. Demonize those who open carry in states where it is legal then alter the law so it is no illegal and take their rights away.

        Finally demonize people who “cling” to the notions of rights guaranteed by the Constitution then take their rights away while the people doing nothing say to themselves “at least they aren’t after me”

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        • sixpack says:

          I’m glad this evil hasn’t touched you yet. Be ready when it does and do the right thing.

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        • sixpack says:

          There shouldn’t BE millions of displaced children—DAMN, think about what you’re saying!

          Haven’t you often wondered why SO MANY parents can’t seem to function as parents? Don’t you EVER challenge the idea that MILLIONS of kids supposedly MUST BE removed from their homes?

          Do you really think you’re the ONLY person on earth who can raise a child right?

          I’m not sure whether the evil just hasn’t touched you yet, or you’re totally immersed in it already.

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        • Anonymous says:

          Anonymous 2.0: Got a bunch of real losers here with room-temp. IQs. We know who you are and we’re coming for your guns because you’re too stupid to have them and the children too. Your children will be safer in protective custody rather than some broken down double-wide with drunken morons for parents. We’ll come for the kids and the guns when you’re passed out drunk. In the near future we’ll make sure that anyone wanting kids or guns need a license for either but only after a background check and psych eval. Bwaaahaaaahaaa!!!

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        • Anonymous says:

          Looks like I found at least 12 morons (thumbs down) on this site. Those paranoid enough to believe this crap are so unstable that they will crack up and have their children removed.

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        • Tomcat says:

          I call Bullshit on this Asshole. ANother lying shill of the elite agenda!!!

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      • maddog says:

        Nomally I would agree. However today the sheeple are so lazy and stipid, they simply say “thank you sir, may I have another”. pressure cooker

        Come on EMP. Lets get the clean up moving.

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      • ArmedPatriot says:

        This is one of my lines in the sand. Lets see them do this.
        I will not go quietly into the night.

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      • DEFCON 1 says:

        @ clint hospo; I hope and wish that was the fact. Probably 90-95% of the sheep will give their children over to the lascivious, pedophilic, ghouls with just a whimper. Then go back to watching sport’s programs feeling quite manly in the process, as their wives hit their Meds, to go back in to a drug induced coma.
        Welcome to the fluoride head, zombie, brain damaged, USSA. We can only hope this will wake them up but I doubt it.

        MOLON LABE!

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    2. eppe says:

      Scary…

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    3. Oh look, my 12 gauge just had a bunch of double ought babies! Come get em!

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      • Swinging on a star says:

        Government Guy,

        You don’t know squat about anything pal, there are thousands of documented cases where homeschoolers were unfairly targeted by social services via the school board. They will harass you, threaten you with lies and intimidate you with the police by their side. Fortunately, there is HSLDA, that is Home School Legal Defense Association, look it up and get educated before you shoot your ignorant mouth off.

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        • Man on the inside says:

          Including mine… But when I had my local Congressman contact them they backed off… Yhis was two decades ago and It is much worse now.

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      • braveheart says:

        government guy, nothing your government does has any legitimate basis to it whatsoever. the day will come when you and the rest of your co-workers will have to find some other way to make a living. braveheart

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      • sixpack says:

        There are several recent incidents where children were taken from their parents because they didn’t get them the latest vaccine—google it, you’ll be busy for hours reading.

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      • Just an aside but I HATE that term “custody”…its a BS term…I have custody of my kids?… naw I owned my kids and loved my kids and took care of my kids but make no mistake about it I owned them as a parent and no judge or so-called child service retard was gonna have any say in that araingment…better you as a parent own your kids till theyre ready to go out on their own than the govt own them…they still think they do but you all know what im saying!

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      • CWinOR says:

        then you’re either a liar- idiot or a bit of both.

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    5. It,s a Comin. says:

      Sounds and looks like the building and structuring of the N.W.O. beast system.

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    6. possee says:

      What an insightful expose…

      these luciferian bastards think of everything and then some…

      Of course this was well planned and designed years ago by some think tank..as is everything!
      The education system was deliberately designed to fail our children over the course of time.. as we now witness the results.

      Now the system designed is used against our children to seize them and become wards of the state..and most likely sold off to the pedophiles who run this fucking system and profit from the sex trade worldwide.

      Does this insidious crap ever end?

      I’m beginning to believe my religious friends who state that lucifer is in charge of the governments..

      Well fuck you..all of you bastards..may you all rot in hell and may we ,the average folk, send you there as quick as possible..

      May God help us..please..
      possee

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      • lastmanstanding says:

        Possee, I’m with your religious friends.

        I am way with you on the fuck all of you bastards…However, let’s send them all back to hell on fucking fire.

        God is going to need everyone one of us to help him complete the task.

        Guys like us will be on the cutting edge.

        It’s gonna be fuckin sweet…
        lms

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        • DaytonaMatt says:

          Damn straight LastMan & Posse!
          Standing ready in Daytona

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        • possee says:

          Yeah..

          We are “the bitter clingers”.

          They worship the dark,mayhem and the almighty state..and cling to insatiable power and wealth forcibly extracting our wealth and sweat through their nefarious laws enacted upon us.and live the lives of kings and queens.

          We worship the light,harmony,family,and the Almighty..and cling to our Constitution,Bill of Rights,God given rights,guns and family..and resist all attempts to blind us by their subjective laws and propaganda..while we live like serfs in comparison.

          They promise(d) us a better world..and many vote for them in vain attempts of adulation and hope of salvation..only they go to dc and become more corrupt,conniving,betraying,adulterous,and filthy rich deceitful liars to save themselves..not us..!!

          While the media attempts to whip us into a frenzy for the next elections..a farce they all are!..remember ..has your life become better or worse over the years due to these false prophets?

          Are your children and granchildrens lives a promise of a better life ahead?

          I think not!

          While I respect DK in his opinions..in all honesty we already “engaged” in their rigged game..and have lost..

          Time for new rules and meaning of “engagement”..

          possee

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      • laura m. says:

        possee: agreed, also lucifer controls 501c3 “church-clubs” and their seminaries, the hierarchies, pastors, leaders. Tools of brainwashing, watered down Bible versions..now the Pope speaking in Brazil condoned gay priests and parishioners. Ditto: United Methodists, Pres. USA, along with Episcopal (all NCC/WCC), etc. Ditch ‘em folks. When luciferian gov controls schools and churches, it’s time to home church and home school.

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      • Possee, yes sir it does end;

        Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 20:8 and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 20:9 And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. (ESV)

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      • Tell ya what, I post a lot here. Sometimes, I say some shit that I know isn’t going to be popular. I also pepper my comments with a fair amount of profanity, just my style. Anyway, I’ve never had a post removed here, ever.

        On another note, there are several other posters here that say even more unpopular stuff than I. The first name that comes to mind is Nina0. You either love this person’s posts or despise them. On many occasions I’ve seen 100+ thumbs down on this person’s posts, yet they never get deleted.

        On that note, I think you’re full of shit. I think you’re either some paid troll or just a complete moron trying to discredit this site. Whatever you are, it doesn’t matter. You don’t fool me. I doubt you’re fooling any other regulars either. In fact, if your attempt is to discredit this site in order to discourage the first time visitor, I don’t think they’re going to get fooled either. More and more people are waking up and seeking out this information. More and more no longer believe the MSM or the .gov lies. Mission fail, chump.

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          • LoL RichCranium99, the troll revealed. So chump, you mad bro? Mad that your supervisor gave you shit at your failed efforts to discredit yet another site on your list of sites? Your boss about to pull the plug on your ass and send you packing because your managed profiles just aren’t cutting it? HA! You never come loaded with any brain cell ammo to disprove anything. The best you can do is resort to baseless attacks with zero argument and never a point. It’s no wonder your trolling job is on the line,…since you do it so poorly.

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            Rich, yesterday you posted 140 days and counting or something like that, what was that about?

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            • another jim says:

              You Spend a lot of time downloading pics of rectums and such. Rube.

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            • yental says:

              @Kulafarmer, I believe at the time of the posting you reference, it was 108 days, and was directed to ME, as a “friendly reminder” of an approaching deadline with reference to a forecast/bet made with respect to some undeniable aspect of the SHTF scenario playing out within this time frame.

              R99 may wish to add/subtract from this explanation!?!

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                Ah, thanks, sorry i was being nosy, thought it might have been some earlier prediction or sumthin

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                • yental says:

                  No apology necessary, required, or needed. I left myself “wide open” to all critique. I continue to hope that my “forecast” is wrong and much delayed for the sake of “those” in the early phase of “awakening”.

                  When “Turkey day” comes and goes without supporting my “prediction/forecast”…I WILL REMAIN TRUE TO MY WORD. A very small and insignificant price to pay for the blessing of more time for others to prepare and continue to research/educate themselves.

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        • eppe says:

          Us jawja (Georgia) males do that…we tell it like it is.

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      • rooster says:

        @ REEL ~ then take your troll a s s somewhere else

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      • braveheart says:

        reel issues, f#$% you! go somewhere else. braveheart

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    8. capitalist eric says:

      @government guy: your name is quite fitting. My wife and I have the ability and means to move to another country, for the sake of our kids… But we choose to stay. Why? Because we have LOTS of weapons to dispense with “government guys” such as yourself, parasites on society. And you parasites are a plague sweeping the world; there really is no “safe” place, so we will stay here, where we have at least the means to destroy you.

      We are very serious about caring and raising our kids… and your attempts to somehow defend the indefensible, cuts NO ice.

      I *will* kill to protect my children. If kidnapped from school, I would declare war on .gov. You have no idea the wrath you scum will face, should you choose this path… Nothing is more dangerous than angry man with nothing to lose.

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    9. Faith of the fallen says:

      All I can say is WTF! When you mess with someone’s kids, you are playing a very deadly game. Kind of like going up to a grizzly and messing with the cubs.

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    10. Watchman says:

      Asia’s navies have become a rising concern.

      Ships with flight decks for fighter jets and helicopters are the rage in Asia. India launched its first home-grown aircraft carrier this week; China is building two more to join the one they already have. India has now join an elite club; U S, China, Britain, France, and Russia. Japan launched its biggest ship with a flight deck since WW2. There is a Bad Moon Rising, WW3, is soon.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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    11. RICH99 says:

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      • JayJay says:

        Rich–if that is ALL there is to your life, go make a banana pudding, dehydrate some tomatoes, vacuum pack some damn crackers.
        Shoot, I am patient, but you are getting on my last nerve.
        Now, where did I put that pressure cooker? :-)

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    12. Watchman says:

      Tokyo Seeks to Authorize Troop Move in Korean Emergency

      The Japanese government plans to classify emergencies on the Korean Peninsula as one situation authorizing Japanese troops to get active abroad, the Yomiuri Shimbun reported Wednesday. The “emergencies” refer to an armed confrontation between North and South Korea or an all-out war.

      There have been creeping moves in Tokyo for some time to subvert the country’s postwar pacifist constitution by asserting the right to “collective self-defense,” whereby the country can send troops abroad if an ally is in some way under threat.

      According to the Yomiuri, the Japanese government wants to impress on both ruling and opposition lawmakers that it is impossible under current laws for Japan to mobilize its military to support U.S. troops in Korea in case of an emergency.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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      • eagle eye says:

        That will go down like a shit sandwich with the Koreans, whose dislike for the Japs goes way beyond any dislike they may have with each other.

        Having spent time working in Korea, they really do not like the Japanese, with a passion.

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    14. Watchman says:

      Abe plans first postwar national security strategy
      THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

      For the first time since World War II, Japan plans to establish an overriding national security strategy under the initiative of the prime minister’s office that covers both foreign and defense policy, sources said.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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    15. SmokinOkie says:

      I was gonna write something silly about the Taco Bell Dorito’s tacos but, after reading this, it just doesn’t seem appropriate.

      Child Protective Services… Is that where the children learn to ‘protect’ themselves? Like from jack booted thugs and other criminals? Since all my kids have been thoroughly informed about their GOD GIVEN right of self defense, as well as the 2nd Amendment, I’d say we pretty much got that one covered. Now….. what’s next?

      .
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      pass me a packet of that green sauce…

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      • Sierra Dave says:

        Now wouldn’t that be funny! After grabbing the kid and running out of the house. The CPS worker got stabbed in the neck! Muhahahaha!!!

        Tech em young who the enemy is!

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    16. Personanongrata says:

      Im not sure but isn’t the UN headquarters in NY? I mean right here in New York. Like right in Manhattan NY. The United States of America NY. I could be wrong but they’re here on this soil, have been for a while. I think they’re in New York, like right here. No plane ticket needed to vist because its right here, like right in Manhattan NY. Making a lot of decisions concerning you and i from good ol NY. Hey i wonder if that is the real Capital since they make decisions governing my life from New York. They’re here already have been for a while up in NY meeting and convening and passing agendas right next to us right underneath us on this soil in New York which aint that far away sitting right against the water in NY.

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      • Yep.

        The best-organized Satanist forces operating presently inside the United States include the following prominent organizations:

        THE LUCIS TRUST

        This is the leading, putatively respectable Britain-based Satan cult (it worships Lucifer). The Lucis Trust, which runs the only religious chapel at the New York United Nations headquarters, The Temple of Understanding, was originaly founded as the Lucifer Trust, in London, in 1923. The Lucis Trust associated with the UNO is the New York affiliate of the British organization. The name was changed from Lucifer Trust, to Lucis Trust, to make the nature of the organization less conspicuous.

        The Lucis Trust’s leading sponsors include the following prominent figures:

        Henry Clausen, Supreme Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, 33rd Degree, Southern District Scottish Rite Freemasons Norman Cousins John D. Rockefeller IV The Rockefeller Foundation The Marshall Field family Robert McNamara Thomas Watson (IBM, former US Ambassador to Moscow) The United Lodge of Theosophists of New York City U. Alexis Johnson, former Undersecretary of State Rabbi Marc Tannenbaum, American Jewish Committee

        Prominent front-organizations sponsored by the Lucis Trust, include the following:

        The Theosophical Order of Service (founded by Annie Besant in1908) The Theosophical Society (founded by Helena P. Blavatsky in 1875) The United Nations Association The World Wildlife Fund UK The Findhorn Foundation Greenpeace International Greenpeace USA Amnesty International The Nicholas Roerich Society (chief connection to Russian mysticism, spirituality) The Anthroposophs of Rudolf Steiner The Rudolf Steiner School [these could not be genuine followers of Steiner] UNESCO UNICEF The American Friends Service Committee

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      • PenCRNA says:

        If I’m not mistaken, the grounds the UN building is on is an multinational sovereign entity. Any history buffs out there correct me if I’m wrong. But I believe the grouds are not ‘part’ of the USA. Kind of like DC is not a state.

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    17. REEL ISSUES says:

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      • braveheart says:

        reel issues, you don’t know this site like you think you do. We don’t have any censorship here, period! If you’re looking for that, go to the MSM sites.

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        • laura m. says:

          I have covered everything I know of that needs to be exposed, so have others in more detail like w69 just did with front (UN-NGO’s) org.; incl gov schools and IRS controlled churches, crooked lying politicians, yada yada…amazing we haven’t been censored.

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      • tired of ny bs says:

        My only deal in fishing when I miscast ,”backlash”,burdened,clusterfuck ie “reel issues”

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    18. Watchman says:

      Fukushima apocalypse: Years of ‘duct tape fixes’ could result in ‘millions of deaths’
      Published time: August 17, 2013 13:15

      Even the tiniest mistake during an operation to extract over 1,300 fuel rods at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan could lead to a series of cascading failures with an apocalyptic outcome, fallout researcher Christina Consolo told RT.
      Fukushima operator TEPCO wants to extract 400 tons worth of spent fuel rods stored in a pool at the plant’s damaged Reactor No. 4. The removal would have to be done manually from the top store of the damaged building in the radiation-contaminated environment.
      In the worst-case scenario, a mishandled rod may go critical, resulting in an above-ground meltdown releasing radioactive fallout with no way to stop it, said Consolo, who is the founder and host of Nuked Radio. But leaving the things as they are is not an option, because statistical risk of a similarly bad outcome increases every day.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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    19. Iowa says:

      I kill kidnappers for fun!

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    20. James in Dallas says:

      I have trouble believing this article. Who, in their right mind, would let someone take their kids away from them? Sure it happened in Romania or wherever, but I can almost guarantee that they would run out of thugs to do the invasions and kidnapping real soon in America.

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      • sixpack says:

        “Who, in their right mind, would let someone take their kids away from them?”

        They’ll show up in droves, with multiple guns shoved in your face. They’ll throw you on the ground hand-cuffed, where you’ll remain until your kids are gone.

        Most honest people aren’t prepared to answer the door to something like that. They shouldn’t have to be.

        NO ONE LETS THEM TAKE THEIR KIDS AWAY FROM THEM.

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    21. Man on the inside says:

      Folks… if we do not start banding together… Running for local office and going to town hall meetings in masse like that retired Marine in Concord did we are doomed. We also need to have teams now if stuff like this comes to fruition. When they show up at your friends house (preper or not).. we need to have hundreds if not thousands of folks there with the media (that will show up) and cameras and attorneys. This is how the liberals did it. We need to return the favor in like kind. Find out where every single HHS and CPS employee in your area lives and what they drive. Then we protest on their lawn. Post THEIR info on social media and anywhere else you can. We talk a big line here but let’s get busy and start to bring the light of day to this crap. Some media will pick this up and then it will become a wildfire. Help the families how can’t help themselves. Win the hearts and minds. I have several friends who were liberal and are now conservative because our team helped them when their own government screwed them. Pray, Prep, Plan… Form Teams.

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    22. Be informed says:

      I have been very hestitate to give much credence to post mega SHTF gardening because of the difficulty of lack of growing days in most parts of the country, defense of your crops against people, animals, bugs, and disease, and the issue of water until I saw the following. It is underground gardening to provide food most likely all year long. <strong<This is an absolute must to look at for anyone interested in growing food after this nightmare happens.

      http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/build-underground-greenhouse-garden-year-round.html

      I don’t remember anyone else linking this, but it would be worth a relook for everyone. This is a pro prepper/survival article all around. See RICH99 there can be some real positive postings here, not all doom.

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      • BI…working on a bigger one of these myself…have done it on a small scale…use polycarbonate panels on the roof instead of plastic and add as much reflective(white paint or lime whitewash)as you can to help refract and reflect light….youre correct though this would help folks in bad climates raise food year round with less fuel inputs!

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    23. braveheart says:

      My wife was killed before we could have any children and she was the only woman I was willing to have kids by. I used to want both a boy and a girl. never found another woman of the caliber of mrs braveheart and now at my age it seems impossible. But if I had kids and some government employee came along to take them, that government employee would have been ‘ventilated’ and pushing up daisies. nothing this government does is legitimate, yet they have the nerve to still demand obedience, loyalty, our tax money for their nefarious programs, etc. War is coming between us and them. We the people don’t owe them anything except to eliminate them. braveheart

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    24. CWinOR says:

      My family has already had 2 run-ins with CPS. In this state- if you’re EVER investigated by them- there is NO mechanism to ever clear your name. PERIOD. there will always be a red flag next to your name. top of their hit list. i told my wife that if they ever show up on my property again, they will be ORDERED off of the property. if they do not leave, or show back up with the Sheriff’s, I will shoot first, as I’ve already been provoked past any reasonable expectation that I should grant them any lee-way. They’ve also interviewed my daughter with NO third party/adult witnesses present. she has since been instructed to NEVER talk to them again (and she’s AWESOME at obeying, though she’s never cowed). she’s been instructed instead to call me first, her mom second, and i will show up, CC and all, and if need be extract her by force. they get no quarter from me. period. they’re EVIL.

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      • A buddy had these clowns show up at his place…because he had advance warning he sent his wife and kids to the “safespot” then when they showed up he ordered them off his land…she refused so he told the state cop to inform her that she was trespassing…short of it the state cop ended up escorting her off the land and down the road after acknowledging to my buddy that he was correct!…don’t need to get violent unless they attack you but you gotta know your rights and then refuse to backdown.

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    25. Perhaps if these issues, with the gov snatching children, for the reasons listed in the article really start, someone needs to begin putting together some type of plan such as under ground railroad for the hiding of them. I hope that you all understand exactly what I am trying to say. My wording may be off, hopefully not.

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    26. BackSpace says:

      What are the chances that:

      Dept. of Human Services = “DHS”

      Dept. of Homeland Security = “DHS”

      Have become one in the same? …

      BS

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    27. Watchman says:

      New Centcom underground war room in Amman for US intervention in Syria
      DEBKAfile Video Aug 17, 2013, 1:58 PM (IDT)

      Top US soldier Gen. Martin Dempsey has just inaugurated Centcom’s Forward Command in Jordan manned by 273 US officers. It is linked to US, Israel, Jordanian and Saudi air commands ready for an order from President Barack Obama to impose a partial no-fly zone over Syria.
      More>

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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    28. Watchman says:

      Putin acts in support of Egyptian military

      DEBKAfile August 17, 2013, 6:54 PM (GMT+02:00)
      Russian President Vladimir Putin called an extraordinary session at the Kremlin Saturday to “discuss the situation in Egypt and take the necessary steps to the put Russian military facilities at the Egyptian military’s disposal,” said an announcement in Moscow, without elaborating. Putin said further that “Russia will arrange for joint military exercises with the Egyptian army.” DEBKAfile: Moscow’s steps directly conflict with Western condemnation of the Egyptian military’s crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood. They were taken shortly after President Barack Obama cancelled a joint military exercise with Egypt as a mark of US disapproval.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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    29. PO'd Patriot says:

      Well lets see……. He practically grew up without a father, his mother got remarried and both were devout communist. Shuttled off to his grandparents who were devout communists. Hooked back up with his biological father and became a muslim. Seems like he turned out OK to me (sarc off). Why wasn’t he taken away and placed in a foster home? According to some of the reasons posted, he’d of been a prime candidate.

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    30. a huge SHTFplan fan says:

      In the “alerts” section of his website, for months now Steve Quayle has been reporting tips from people all over the US, who’ve been approached by “salesmen” allegedly peddling children’s books. They’re targeting homeschooling families. ALL of them have Russian accents! And ALL of them are writing down the names and ages of the children in the house (if parents are dumb enough to tell them), and are also asking them which families in the neighborhood have children–and are writing that down too.

      It all fits, folks!

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      • Central TX Mom says:

        @ a huge shtfplan fan: I can attest to this in Central TX. Hubby answered the door about 2-3 wks ago and a couple of college aged people with accents (not Mexican) were selling children’s books. They asked how many kids we had, hubby said not interested. They then asked about the neighbors and if they had kids and how old…hubby said didn’t know and closed the door. As he was closing the door, he noticed more groups of 2 at neighbors across the street. A lot of high/school & college kids sell subscriptions for various fundraisers but this was weird how they seemed to be seeking specific info on the kids. Just kinda made me go hmmmmm……

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      • braveheart says:

        ncjoe, f#$% you! We are prepped and still prepping. When MEGA SHTF finally comes, we will all outlast you, unless you’ve been prepping to any degree. We all have what it takes to survive. YOU are the one who is a useless eater, so go f#$% yourself! braveheart

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      • sixpack says:

        NC joe, you’re not even worth the breath it takes to call you what you are.

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    32. PO'd Patriot says:

      Just received an email from a friend with the below article. I live in region 3 (Maryland). Check out the article and vid. Could be fear mongering or legit.

      http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/fema-preparing-for-the-worst-in-region-3-why-video/54222

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    34. anonymous says:

      Come on folks. Let’s lighten this up with some funny remarks on the picture.

      Last guy dressed in black says to the guy in front of him, “I just got back from Italy and nobody stands in lines, they just crowd up. Moooooo”

      “I hate being the first and last in”.

      “What if they’re wearing all black too”

      First guy, “I did push the door bell”

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    35. Icantsay says:

      My kid has already delt with CPS thru a custody battle,
      Here is one clue for you all

      They cant make a kid do shit!

      if your kid refuses to “play along” they are fucked.

      Teach your kid to keep their mouth shut, don’t be bullied by the so called adults, teach your kid to not say anything or agree to anything the CPS workers tell them.

      Tell them to keep saying to the CPS workers, “I don’t want to be here, you are forcing me to stay against my will” yes even if your kid is 3 years old teach them to say something like this..of course in their own words.

      like I wanna go, why are you making me stay, I don’t want to be here or something to that effect

      Im not saying teach your kid to be a brat to them, im telling you to teach your kid their rights at an early age and make them understand them.

      also teach your kid , what goes on at home stays at home.

      needless to say Im a male, I ended up with custody of my daughter, (rare ) , she showed them that CPS system and the biological egg donor, were a POS

      Also..the Courts , in a custody battle cant force a kid to do anything, oh they will try, they might even threaten..but they sure don’t want to be seen “picking on a kid”..the court will try to force the parent, but they cant force the minor
      Yes I watched this with my own child, and she drove the Judge and her mom crazy for 9 months until they gave up

      At the end of it all my daughter was able to trap her biological mother in a catch 22 and the courts..it ended up where her biological mother had to give up her rights to her daughter, and my recent wife was able to adopt her.

      so its winnable , Me and my Daughter are proof, you just have to have a smart kid, and a cunning father that loves his kids.

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      • yental says:

        I do enjoy well articulated stories with “happy endings”. Congrats, and good information.

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      • sixpack says:

        You’re right about the uncooperative part. They will try to get your child to agree with them, or say something they can use, even if it isn’t true. Teaching your child not to trust ANY strangers is a good place to begin. They rely on your child being cooperative and saying what they want them to say, because they ‘trust’ the authorities.

        Two words: JUST DON’T.

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    36. Be informed says:

      @ Watchman. If BO is stupid enough, or again his puppet masters, to even attempt to put in any no fly zone where Russian and even Chinese planes frequent the area, game over. Just like when Russia tried to get into the U.S. backyard with Cuba, the U.S. tries to further encircle the boundaries of Russia, it is over. Russia absolutely needs to keep their gas monopoly with europe or lose hundreds of billions of revenue if the U.S. and allies take over the Syrian area. That is reason enough for going to war. The other is Russia cannot and will not allow to be further boxed in.

      I mentioned this before about just how much of the Russian buffer zone was lost with the break up of the USSR, and ex-soviet states joining NATO. Forgetting about the satellite states such as East Germany, Poland, etc. The broken promises to Russia that NATO would not expand east really puts into light just how much more vulnerable Russia is. If this happened to the U.S., you could say in comparison that the U.S. lost California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, and Texas to an enemy such as China, to how much buffer zone Russia lost to NATO. Russia cannot lose anymore land and why they flattened Georgia in 4 days a few years ago rather than have another ex-USSR state in NATO hands.

      What people don’t understand is that even IF Russia allowed more encirclement, this is not some benefit to the U.S. or survival of the world. Every mile of lost Russian land means a lost fraction of a second of the buffer zone to avoid an accidental launch on warning of their ICBM’s forces. Back in 1995 Russia almost launched their missiles because they felt a weather satellite rocket was a submarine launch of nuclear missiles from the Norway coast. IF this was present day Russia, those extra minutes of time to think about whether or not to fire Russian nukes would have not been there because of the lack of the buffer zone that gives this extra time to think about what is happening. The chance of WW3 being a mistake is magnitudes higher now because of this Russian boxing in. The extra response time for cool collected heads is gone.

      Many U.S. military strategists feel that the more you encircle Russia and China the more likely you are of stopping the two countries dead in their tracks. This incredibly stupid idea only puts those two countries on that much more of a “hair trigger”. It has long been thought that the annihilation of the human civilization would not be because of some madmen deciding to blow up the world. No, it has longed been felt it would be from the fear that their country was in imminent danger of being destroyed themselves and a MISTAKE that would lead to thousands of mushroom clouds around the globe. An accident from an asinine decision long ago to encircle countries that could blow up the human species.

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    37. 22winmag says:

      This is just another example of twisted and deranged plans that represent a dying system gone mad. Keyword dying. These sickos will fall short of their goals. There will be no mass roundups, no concentration camps, no WWIII. People are waking up at an exponential rate and the true terrorists, the ones behind the teleprompters and microphones, will soon be going the way of the dinosaur.

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    38. Sierra Dave says:

      Information is power. It’s not difficult to make a DVD with a menu with all the information the sheeple need.

      Not saying to steal. But there are well created youtube videos you could burn to a DVD to inform the masses. Give credit where it’s due.

      There was a reason the old Soviet empire outlawed newspaper presses.

      With modern technology. Agenda 21 and other critical information can be stored and dispensed.

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    39. warchild says:

      The only good thing I see coming out of this is more folks getting together and opposing this and other insane govt. actions.On a side note there are cases where the kids should be separated from their crazy/abusive parents but what is presented here in article not that case.I do see on a regular basis folks who never thought about such things waking the hell up.This brings to mind 3 boxes,articles/sites like this are the soap box to wake people up,the ballot box is the next step,getting folks in positions of authority to a degree to end all this govt.authority nonsense(not sure if possible anymore),the last box is the ammo box,hope we do not need as a country to get to that point but will not be the first time.

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    40. aljamo says:

      United we stand. Divided we fall. Come on people now, smile on your brother, everbody get together, try to love one another right now.

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    41. I do have some advice for young people wanting to start a family…try to locate a midwife who would be willing to keep their mouth shut tight. Do not ever go to the local doctor for prenatal checkups. No lab work which would leave a trail. Have the baby at home or a secret facility. Do not file a birth certificate. Do not apply for a social security number. Keep an extreme low profile. Then pray a lot.

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      • Annie Oakley says:

        You got that right LSB. Have your children at home, no vaccines, no birth certificate, just sovereign children. The machine cannot find you if they don’t know you exist.

        The midwife thing is touchy. It’s going to be hard to find one who can keep her mouth shut. Maybe an RN could do this for the parents?

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    42. Be informed says:

      @ 22winmag. I so much wish that people were waking up. The people here are sure awake and the 1% that prepare are certainly not asleep at the switch. The masses though are more retarded than ever. The number of people as you say that are waking up is growing, but the same is true of the dullards that want to dismantle the Constitution, especially the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Political correctness has run amok, that is the part of the destruction of the 1st. There are now more imbeciles that want to limit people to ONLY shotguns and maybe handguns, and ONLY rifles that are basically WW1 type for hunting. There are a huge number of mongoloids that want to completely get rid of all firearms like europe, even stun devices, knives, and pepper spray.

      This is what is so scary, the shear number of idiots that have adopted the european way of pacifism and empowering the criminal at every turn. The shear number of people caught into the welfare need of the state has grown unbelievably. These people totally dependent on state aid vote ONLY for the BO’s of the political spectrum. The vast number of people that simply don’t prepare for even natural disasters that happen again and again with more intensity than ever.

      The number that tells me that the country is doomed is that 99% of the people are STILL not preparing for anything. You would think after Hurricane Sandy that this number would grow a lot, NOT. The shear ignorance continues, that this was an once in lifetime storm, not to worry again. Well masses of people how about the San Andreas, New Madrid, Cascadia faults, the fact that a huge amount of the country’s energy is in very prone hurricane zone of Houston and Port Fourchon? What about the volcanic range from California to Washington getting more active? A pandemic like maybe MERS? Solar EMP? Exponential rates of growth are wonderful IF the number of people waking up was not so small, still around 1%, not even 2%, still 1%. That is a depressing actuality :(

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    43. old guy says:

      Wasn’t the whole Branch Davidian David Koresch Waco barbecue about saving children from alleged child abuse?

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      • warchild says:

        Yes old guy,reno was a state prosecutor in Fl. whose thing was child abuse/assault,not a bad thing caring about children but the fbi lied to her.Frontline did a great episode on Waco and then a second called Waco revisited,really shows all the bullshit in that case,they have since seemed to become a mouthpiece for fed but back then had some real journalism at work,on net if you want to watch.Many people talk about a life moment i.e. Kennedy shot/MLK shot ect.,my moment was the Waco tragedy and the Ruby ridge tragedy,hostage negotiator at Ruby grew up next to my home town,just sad/evil situations all around.

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      • yental says:

        I seem to remember a recent article about a division of the Oklahoma CPS removing (abducting) 30+ children from their homes…and then proceeding to “loose track as to the whereabouts of these children”.

        Someone correct me if this information is wrong.

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    44. Genius says:

      Damn Im glad I don’t have kids. Years ago I studied common law/ soveriegnty/ etc. Did you know that a marriage license is a contract to make the state a third party in your marriage and gives the state rights to your kids? And a birth certificate allows the state to pledge your kids labor and taxes and production to the dept. of commerce as collateral for the debt? The list goes on and on as long as you sign up for theyre system you have no legal rights (ssn, licenses, US citizenship, benefits, postal address, etc.). It’s all a clever scheme to get you into theyre legal system and out of the LAWFUL system of constitutional rights. However trying to get out of the system is extremely difficult and dangerous and everyone I know that tried eventually failed. All of the actions they take are LEGAL but not LAWFUL. Everything around you is a fraud because it is unkowingly agreed to by you. Learn to think for yourselves and see the real reality of it all. These assholes arent stupid they are extremely smart and clever (not theyre lackies and enforcers). Soldiers and cops are just brainwashed into thinking they are doing good when the exact opposite is true. Govern= control, Ment= mind. Those who seek to control others need to be done away with, govt and police type jobs are the most sought after by phsycopaths because they crave control and power over others. Some CPS workers if not most think they are doing good and refuse to see the absolute evil that is controlling them. Same with most govt employees, however, you cannot rid yourself of moral obligations by passing it off to the state to blame. YOU and only YOU are responsible for your actions. Saying I’m only doing my job or doing my duty doesnt cut it at all! Fooking stew eaters trading theyre morality and sense of right and wrong for a bowl of stew. These are the lowest form of life on the planet and deserve less than no respect. As for what these scum of the earth do to you and your kids, do to them as thou will ;)

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      • braveheart says:

        Genius, welcome aboard and I have to agree with you. My wife was killed by a drunk driver before we could have any kids and I never found anyone else worth having for a second wife, so it’s just as well for me. Plus, I couldn’t tolerate anyone interfering with how I would raise my kids. I especially wouldn’t tolerate the libturd morons that call themselves educators telling me what to do concerning my family. the public schools stick their noses into areas they don’t belong in.

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    45. It is time to start shooting. Nobody will ever be allowed to come between me and my children. Kidnapping is a grave threat to my children and will be met with immediate lethal force to those present as well as those responsible behind the scenes for conspiring to steal my children.

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    46. sarah says:

      I am not seeing the part on being in the military for a risk factor, anyone know what page that is on. Also not seeing where it says they can come in with out a warrant. Where can I find that information?

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    47. TheBlack says:

      I don’t know if this comment will be read… but I will say it anyway.

      There have been a few comments regarding the starting of another civil war if this happens.
      Or based on other topics of similar infringing behaviour is that it will start another civil war.

      What you are failing to realize, is that the nation as a whole… nay, any nation, as a whole will not know its happening.

      The media will have blanket topics that they aren’t allowed to report about (if they have any freedom over that now).
      Guaranteed all these sensitive topics will not be reported about.
      Therefor you will not know it is happening, you will not know it is an issue and you will not resist because you can’t see the clear and present danger.
      Could you manage the panic and terror it would cause in the public eye if nearly every night the local news reports that another 10 children have been taken from their homes because the Government thought it best?
      Even at that point I am not sure anyone would think anything of it outside of “Well, they must have been bad parents”.
      Until they knock on your door… Then it is too late.

      It used to be about networking with your neighbours and knowing those around you.
      But so much propaganda has been plastered that your neighbour is a suspected terrorist and that you should turn them in on any suspicious behaviour.

      Outside of media advertising, the next best for of advertising is word of mouth.
      Since they have made you fear your neighbour, your only reliable source for information now has to come from the media.

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    48. Anonymous says:

      They have all these guidelines for neglect, yet in their warped minds it is perfectly fine to rip you child out of the womb piece by piece because that is a woman’s choice to reproductive health!! Hogwash!

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    49. Rebecca Yuri says:

      I read the grant document. You are misinterpreting what it says. Your list of criteria for who gets visits is incorrect. Eligible families are determined by the state. The special groups identified are to be prioritized, in the event they already meet state criteria for home visits. It doesn’t say all homes of veterans and young mothers will be receiving visits, it says that individuals the state already determined need intervention will receive priority if they are also young mothers, smokers, Substance abuser, Serving in the military, etc.

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