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The Era Of Widespread Biometric Indentification And Microchip Implants Is Here

Michael Snyder
September 10th, 2014
Economic Collapse Blog
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This article has been generously contributed by Michael Snyder. You can follow his regular writings, research and analysis at The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. Read his recent book The Beginning of the End to get an idea of what America may look like in the very near future.

embed-chipsAre you ready to have your veins scanned every time you use your bank account?  Are you ready to use a “digital tattoo” or a microchip implant to unlock your telephone?  Once upon a time we read about such technologies in science fiction novels, but now they are here.  The era of widespread biometric identification and microchip implants is upon us, and it is going to change the way that we live.  Proponents of these new technologies say that they will make our private information and our bank accounts much more secure.  But there are others that warn that these kinds of “Big Brother technologies” will set the stage for even more government intrusion into our lives.  In the wrong hands, such technologies could prove to be an absolute nightmare.

Barclays has just announced that it is going to become the first major bank in the western world to use vein scanning technology to control access to bank accounts.  There will even be a biometric reader that customers plug into their computers at home

Barclays is launching a vein scanner for customers as it steps up use of biometric recognition technology to combat banking fraud.

The bank has teamed up with Japanese technology firm Hitachi to develop a biometric reader that scans a customer’s finger to access accounts, instead of using a password or PIN.

The biometric reader, which plugs into a customer’s computer at home, uses infrared lights to scan blood flow in a person’s finger. The user must then scan the same finger a second time to confirm a transaction. Each “vein profile” will be stored on a SIM card inside the device.

Vein recognition technology is used by some banks in Japan and elsewhere at ATM machines, but Barclays said it is the first bank globally to use it for significant account transactions.

But Barclays is not the only one that is making a big move into biometric identification.

Online retailing behemoth Alibaba is going to start using fingerprint scanning in an attempt to make their transactions more secure…

Alibaba, the giant Chinese online retailer, is integrating fingerprint scanning into its Alipay Wallet app. Foxconn, the Taiwanese manufacturer of the iPhone and iPad, threw nearly $5 million at Norway’s NEXT Biometrics, which develops fingerprint scanning technology, back in May. And earlier this month it took a 10% stake for $2 million in AirSig, a Taiwanese company that uses smartphones’ built-in gyroscopes to track air handwriting. The company says AirSig provides three-factor authentication: your signature, your phone, and the way you sign with a flourish in mid-air.

It is only a matter of time before more banks, online retailers and major websites start using this kind of technology.  We live at a time when theft on the Internet threatens to spiral out of control, and big corporations are going to be continually looking for answers.

Cell phone security is another area of great concern these days.  If someone can get a hold of your phone and unlock it, that person can potentially do all sorts of damage.

So Motorola has developed a “digital tattoo” that will be used to ensure that only the owner of a phone is able to unlock it.  The following is how Motorola described these new digital tattoos…

Made of super thin, flexible materials, based on VivaLnk’s eSkinTM technology, each digital tattoo is designed to unlock your phone with just a touch of your Moto X to the tattoo, no passwords required. The nickel-sized tattoo is adhesive, lasts for five days, and is made to stay on through showering, swimming, and vigorous activities like jogging. And it’s beautiful—with a shimmering, intricate design.

It’s another step in making it easier to unlock your phone on the go and keep your personal information safe. An average user takes 2.3 seconds to unlock their phone and does this about 39 times a day—a process that some people find so inconvenient that they do not lock their phones at all. Using NFC technology, digital tattoos make it faster to safely unlock your phone anywhere without having to enter a password.

And below I have posted the video that Motorola shared on YouTubeabout these tattoos…

Pretty bizarre stuff, eh?

But others are taking cell phone security to even greater extremes.

For example, some people were actually implanting themselves with microchips in anticipation of the release of the iPhone 6 on September 9th…

With a wave of his left hand, Ben Slater can open his front door, turn on the lights and will soon be able to start his car. Without even a touch he can link to databases containing limitless information, including personal details such as names, addresses and health records.

The digital advertising director has joined a small number of Australians who have inserted microchips into their skin to be at the cutting edge of the next stage of the evolution of technology.

Slater was prompted to be implanted in anticipation of the iPhone 6 release on September 9.

The conjecture among pundits and fans worldwide over what chief executive Tim Cook will reveal is building.

At present the iPhone cannot read microchip implants. However, Mr Slater believes the new version will have that capability. His confidence is now lodged between his thumb and forefinger.

Of course this kind of thing is not new.  People have been getting implanted with microchips for years.  If you doubt this, just do an Internet search for “biohackers” and see what you find.

But it is starting to become more mainstream, and there are already some thinkers that are quite eager to use such technology for very authoritarian purposes.

For example, one prominent philosopher recently suggested that we should use implantable microchips to prevent anyone that is “deemed unworthy” from becoming a parent…

Although he admits it “sounds blatantly authoritarian” and “violates just about every core value we possess in a free society,” a noted transhumanist author has said a world government body should forcibly sterilize anyone “deemed unworthy” of parenthood by using implanted microchips.

Constitutional attorney and civil liberties expert John W. Whitehead, founder of The Rutherford Institute, warned LifeSiteNews earlier this year that political officials would long to use this seminal technology.

In an article for Wired.com today, philosopher Zoltan Istvan wrote that the notion first crossed his mind when he heard a blonde nurse say, “with 10,000 kids dying everyday around the world from starvation, you’d think we’d put birth control in the water.”

After careful thought, in an effort to “give hundreds of millions of future kids a better life, I cautiously endorse the idea of licensing parents,” Istvan wrote today.

You might be tempted to think that this is crazy talk.

But the truth is that this kind of technology is already being developed.

In a previous article, I quoted a news article which discussed how billionaire Bill Gates is funding the development of a birth control microchip that “acts as a contraceptive for 16 years”

Helped along by one of the world’s most notable billionaires, a U.S. firm is developing a tiny implant that acts as a contraceptive for 16 years — and can be turned on or off using a remote control.

The birth control microchip, funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, would hold nearly two decades worth of a hormone commonly used in contraceptives and dispense 30 micrograms a day, according to a report from the MIT Technology Review.

The new birth control, which is set to begin preclinical testing next year with hopes of putting it on shelves in 2018, can be implanted in the buttocks, upper arm or abdomen.

Yes, I know that a lot of the things that I have talked about in this article sound really weird.

But the reality of the matter is that technology is changing at an exponential rate, and our world is going to get crazier and crazier as time goes by.

Are you ready for what comes next?


beginning-of-the-end-snyderMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

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  1. Socrates says:

    The Mark of the Beast? The timing is right for that ominous sign, unfortunately. You can chip me when I’m cold and dead.

    • Wilson says:

      So much information can be gleaned from cell phones and smart phones that the microchip isn’t needed. Your conversations recorded, banking transactions recorded, location tracked via GPS in the phone, online purchases. I could go on but you get the picture. You are tracking your life for the benefit of the government. They appreciate you doing their job for them.

      • Charley Waite says:

        I am sure that new IWatch can also steal yor vital signs like o2 saturation, blood pressure and heart rate.

        • Warchild Dammit! says:

          Wilson&Charley,wrap phone completely in tin foil and try and call,seems to work.Tired of being tracked for sure/dump it all,as for implanted chips ect.,they wanna tag my corpse guess it doesn’t matter.

          • lonelonemum says:

            Old school brute force is also being used more and more

            http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/03/09/florida-makes-off-grid-living-illegal-mandates-all-homes-must-be-connected-to-an-electricity-grid/

            This scares the fook outta me. Florida is no longer an option for those who wish to be self sufficient. We’ve seen the introduction of punative taxes for those wanting to use Solar in Spain. In Scotland every child now has a state appointed “named person”, who can override parental wishes with the full approval of the judicial system, no matter the harm that causes the child.

            The era of softly, softly persuasion is now over. People need to wake up, smell the coffee and understand that like it or not, to want self-determination is to be considered a felon by government. To retain your morality and integrity is to be considered an enemy of our over lords and to be treated accordingly.

            The Pope declared that WW3 has begun on August 23rd 2014. This time the war is one of the global elite versus humanity and the front lines are on our doorsteps, whether we are willing to accept that or not. Ignorance is not an excuse.

            • Swinging on a star says:

              Revelation 14:9

              And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,

              Revelation 14:9-11

              And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God’s wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

              Revelation 20:4

              Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

              • Indy Colts says:

                I disagree about microchipping being the mark of the beast. I believe when a person recieves the mark of the beast they will undoubtedly know what they are taking shows their complete allegiance. When they stand in front of GOD they will have no “I didn’t know what it was” excuse.

              • yourmotherwaswrong says:

                Indy Colts says:

                I disagree about microchipping being the mark of the beast.

                2 Corinthians 11:14-15

                14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

                15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

                Are you certain of that?

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

                Your Cell Phone transferes more data to tge powers to be than a home detention probation ankle bracelet. And we are dumb enough to pay for it. So do the Feds monitor the Free OBAMA Phone? Cause everybody in Cleveland gots Obama Phone… Obama Phone….Romney sucks

              • passinwiththewind says:

                Fudge the NSA/PTB/NWO/gov shills/LE snitches and snoopers!

                When i retired and was no longer on call or needed my cell for business, it got shut down.

                My life isn’t that complicated or fast paced that i need to be “on call” any fucking more. I hate a friggin telephone, but for health reasons or family emergencies, I have a land line.

                Day to day chit chat and shooting the breeze on a friggin little hand held speaker, isn’t my thing anymore.

                I have risen above it. I’m past, needing to be found, cause I’m not lost anymore.

                Speaking of “risen”. Our Saviour was risen and said He was coming back. But; here is the kicker. He didn’t say twice ( as the rapture folks follow); and He said “after tribulation and the time of that man of perdition being revealed===Antichrist”.

                Soooo…… To accept, the Mark of the Beast, all one has to do is pay allegience to the “first Christ” that returns, that is spewing a message of rapture, and to his One World System/NWO.

                Bow down to him for food and freebies and you are friggin marked for death.
                Bow down to him and his lies and you are marked for death.
                Pay allegience to him thru one of his ten kings around the world, and you are marked for death.

                They can tatoo you from asshole to appetite, with 666 and run tracking chips thru your veins and under your finger nails and skin, and that doesn’t mean you have “accepted” the “mark of the beast”.

                You must willingly follow him and his system of deceit, to be “marked”. It is a spiritual mark that is recorded in your Heavenly “Book of Life”. Marked “in” your forehead, your brain/mind, or in your hand, because you are doing his work/his bidding.

                That book has a record of every sin you have ever commited, that has not been forgiven for; and every good deed you have ever done, in your entire life.

                When the soul/spirit leaves the flesh body, you get to,
                “read ’em and weep”, or “read ’em and rejoice”, it’s your choice, amigo.

                But, time is running out. This can’t go on much longer.

                pwtw.

            • JustMe says:

              One can ignore reality, but one can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality…

        • yourmotherwaswrong says:

          Don’t forget to vote in the November 4th midterms.

          “We’re from the government, and we’re here to help… or else!”

          • yourmotherwaswrong says:

            … or else you could be noted, registered, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, admonished, forbidden, corrected, punished, ransomed, exploited, monopolized, extorted, squeezed, robbed, fined, despised, harassed, tracked, abused, clubbed, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed, mocked, ridiculed, dishonored, and finally… shot.

            • Calgagus says:

              funny how none of these scanners aint mentioned how easy it will be to replicate the scanned object. It will be a thief and hackers dream come true when they can replicate fingerprints or retinas. They wont just digitize an identity but theyll use the images and become someone new.

            • Burt Gummer says:

              …you forgot sodomized and lobotomized.

            • talon1776 says:

              If a candidate were running on States Rights trumps Federal tyranny. That any State has the unimpeded right to dissolve its relationship to the consented Union. That that State has the right to free unmolested association with any State or Country it chooses.
              If such a candidate were running…then I would vote.,but there are no candidates who are not in the pocket of the Bilderberg or phony interest groups or in the game to enrich his or herself…I abstain

              Live Free or Die…it’s a natural god given right
              Talon1776

            • Anonymous says:

              Change the last word shot to beheaded

          • swampratt says:

            INDY COLTS I agree with you the mark of the beast has
            to do with the first beast which was BABALYON All
            lifestyles were accepted look at todays world it
            has made its self a image of the first beast GAYS,
            CHILDPORN the list is very long not only do people
            agree with it IN THEIR MINDS but their doing it WITH
            THEIR HANDS theres your mark of the beast and AMERICA
            is leading the way allegiance to the first beast that’s
            the system JESUS said the world would be like when
            he returns you must reject the first beast there is
            nochipping

          • Gregory8 says:

            You folks are giving TPTB way too much credit. May I remind you all-AGAIN-that ‘their best’, 1000+ militarily armed federal, state, and local cops couldn’t find one severely injured teenager in the Boston area in April of 2013, even after a door-to-door and all the surveillance equipment from the NSA and DOD. And speaking of the ‘all seeing-all knowing’ NSA, yeah, those guys, the ones everyone is so frightened of, they managed to let a 29 y/o contract employee walk out , who then fled the country under his own name before they even knew that something was wrong. Yeah, real scary folks these ‘spooks’. All these ‘super-dudes’ don’t begin to live up to the hype from all from the books and movies. Time to move on folks, nothing to see here except a few shadows.

        • BigB says:

          I’m am sure that it can Charley and probaly much – much more such as your carbon dioxide expulsion into the air “THEY” believe they own.

          “But the reality of the matter is that technology is changing at an exponential rate, and our world is going to get crazier and crazier as time goes by.

          Are you ready for what comes next?”

          I am sitting here trying to get my blood pressure under control as I ponder what do “THEY” not want to control?

          The water you drink, the air you breathe, where you can walk, who you can talk to, what you have the right to listen to. I just read they want for climate change reasons stop all fishing in the United States Pacific ocean zones. Next thing you know they will try to stop cheap oil from being piped through the U.S, what they are already doing that?

          This crap and I mean all of it, fighting in the middle east, involving ourselves with the Ukraine – Russia problems, supporting the postal union through bail outs to the USPS. Giving money to other countries for what??? Allowing an invasion into our coutry on the Southern Border. Racist groups like LaRaza making demands on us to make everyone a citizen. It just goes on and on!

          It is bullshit I tell you and it has to stop now and I am not talking about using some phoney baloney corrupt as hell voting scheme. People must take to the streets and demand a stop to this. If a hundred pot smoking, on welfare black people in Ferguson can get all the attention they have recieved you can only imagine what a thousand white people tearing up a black neighborhood would get.

          MFR’s

          BigB

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          • sixpack says:

            It’s not “the black neighborhood” that we should be tearing up, that will accomplish nothing useful.

            Think more “affluent”.

            • MayBeSo says:

              @ BigB,

              I echo your sentiments..but sixpack has the ‘correct’ answer Brother. Please KEEP that BP down, we are about to be needing everyone who CAN – actually – think1 Yes, that’s a compliment, take it as such, ‘Thumbs up for all.”

              • BigB says:

                @Sixpack and MayBeSo,

                Allow me to refute with respect your opinion.

                I have always said that when black people tear up their own neighborhood they are hurting only themselves. Why would anyone want to tear up your own neighborhood when there are much better targets available. If blacks wanted to make more of a statement they would attack white neighborhoods. Why would not the reverse be true? The point is to cause anarchy and draw attention to your cause.

                BigB

      • Burt Gummer says:

        Apple coming out with a medical device to automatically track all your vital signs for a 24 hour period. It is an electronic suppository called I-Ass.

      • Rick:) says:

        O/T, ( and probably duplicated) major earth directed solar flare We’d afternoon. CME modeling not complete , yet. Area 2158, x 1.6 . This is NOT the little cme expected on Thursday.

    • Anonymous says:

      I guess you don’t like driving, buying food and going places. It’s not going to be optional.

      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        Anon,bet my car starts fine without a license,don’t take bet as have proven this in past.I will say also,fishing without a license,seems fish can’t read and don’t know any better,guns,ask any criminal,their guns work fine even without a license(though do not see anything in 2nd requiring a license,still looking with decoder ring on that one).

        • SolitaryMan says:

          Warchild

          I knew a guy in the city once that drove a wrecker
          that he hadn’t licensed or insured for 3 years. He
          said the cops were so glad to see him come to clean
          up the carnage that they never paid any attention to
          his muddied license plate.

          I did the same thing with my garbage truck, they were
          glad to see me come, and glad to see me go, literally
          hiding in plain sight right beneath their noses.

          • Warchild Dammit! says:

            Solitary,and yet nothing went wrong and you both provided needed services without govt. help/interference?!I just can’t see how that is possible!I wonder,is there anything else we could do as a society that did not involve the govt.?

          • Cara says:

            They are building cars with “chips” already included and there are a variety of devices they can use to monitor your movement including roads that can “read” each car. And in some places if the car is not chipped it can not be on the roads.
            How are your feet or maybe a bike?

            • Warchild Dammit! says:

              Well Cara,with tech in the hands of the people will be ways to send out signals/false signals and jam readers,tis just another part of the civil war growing in this country.

      • Nathan Cline says:

        Yes, it IS going to be optional. If I don’t need a license to drive (and I don’t), then I damn sure don’t need a microchip either. I can grow my own food and I will go wherever I please. Try to stop me, I dare you.

      • wrong says:

        Anon – There are ALWAYS options! Don’t be foolish.

    • Npgh says:

      Barclays is using vein scanners.

    • Anonymous says:

      Socrates…the tribe will cut your cold finger to empty your bank and to charge your credit card.

    • Mountain Trekker says:

      I wear my sunglasses at night, to keep out the hypocrites and parasites. Trekker Out.

    • FuckingPissed says:

      I agree Socrates! The sheeple can have their chips. I promise to put lead into anyone that tells me I must do it.

    • Stan522 says:

      I refuse to participate in any of this… it’s bad enough having a smartphone, but with that, I can always choose to leave it at home….

      I also refuse (never have, never will) participate in their flu shots…. I’ll take my chances.

    • ubiquitous says:

      Imagine ..

      if the technology,

      instead of turning on and off all your tech gadgets,

      could be used to shut us down…both physically and /or mentally…

      or

      could transmit signals to our brain for brainwashing or other nefarious means..

      wouldn’t put it past them in the least..

      possee

    • Anonymous says:

      Nope– we got til 2016– thats when the chip and all the other control mechanisms come into place– unless we (3% or more of us) stop them.

  2. Billy Hill says:

    Mayhaps you don’t like eating, driving and using many other services, because this is not going to be optional .

    • Anonymous says:

      Sure it is.. I don’t have to drive the newest car(and actually prefer not to) and I can hunt and gather for my food.

      As this becomes more widespread, a clear dividing line will be established for those who wish to participate and those that do not. The secondary economy (read black market) will flourish because of individuals that wish to opt-out.

      If the PTB want to force the issue, I can forsee Mexico suddenly having an immigration problem.

      This is not the same country it was 20 years ago and I don’t think I like it very much.

    • Nathan Cline says:

      Billy, why have you decided to work for the forces of evil? Stop shilling for the government. I WILL NOT be implanted with a microship, so take your “this won’t be optional” horse shit and shove it.

      • Billy Hill says:

        LMAO!

        Now I see why a few people here are the way they are. Many of you (most, it seems by all the red thumbs) seem to think you can live without going to stores, driving, using public transportation, going to the hospital, etc etc etc. I got news for you, YOU CANT. And you will need to be chipped to do all those things if things keep going the way they’re going.

        You are ALREADY more than 50% into what you’re claiming you’ll never be part of, and you do it willingly by carrying your phone, using email etc. HA! Ignorance is bliss and denial is rampant here.

        “I don’t have to drive the newest car” Doesn’t matter, it’s your DRIVER’S LICENSE that will be implanted, not your car, duh.

        “I can hunt and gather food” and live like a rat hiding in the woods and rain and snow. I’d pay money to see that shit!

        “I’ll run away to Mexico” Good luck with that, too. You think it’s bad here? Mayhaps you should move there now and get a head start…?

        “I won’t be planted with a microchip… so shove it” Hey, don’t hate the messenger. I’m just telling you how it’s going to go down. You don’t have to hate me for it. But if it makes you feel better about your little wanna-be-implant-free life, you go girl!

        And don’t get me wrong, I’m pissed about this just as much as most of you, if not more. I see that they’re already paving the way for this and it not be optional.

        • Archivist says:

          A good number of us don’t do any of those things. I don’t use public transportation since I own a vehicle, and they don’t have city buses out in the country anyway. My car will run whether I have a license or not. I don’t have a cellphone, so I can’t be tracked by that. Many of us are independent of grocery stores, and I’m moving that way as quick as I can. I don’t expect to be able to afford any hospital visits, even with insurance, such as it is. I don’t get vaccinations loaded with mercury. My driver’s license is not chipped, and I’ve got 7 more years left on it.

          So, I do have a choice. I will not be chipped.

        • Nathan Cline says:

          “Now I see why a few people here are the way they are. Many of you (most, it seems by all the red thumbs) seem to think you can live without going to stores, driving, using public transportation, going to the hospital, etc etc etc. I got news for you, YOU CANT. ”

          I got news for you….you’re WRONG!

          “And you will need to be chipped to do all those things if things keep going the way they’re going. ”

          I already told you I’m not getting a microchip. You still want to keep arguing about it though, for some reason, as if you know something I don’t. If you personally want to bend over the table and let the government shove it up your asshole, feel free, but don’t ASSume the rest of us are going to be cowed so easily.

          “You are ALREADY more than 50% into what you’re claiming you’ll never be part of, and you do it willingly by carrying your phone, using email etc. HA! Ignorance is bliss and denial is rampant here.”

          You’re an idiot.

          1) I don’t own a phone. I have no use for one.

          2) I don’t own a TV or either. I have no use for one.

          3) I don’t give a flying fuck about email. I use this computer for one thing, and one thing only: keeping up with the latest happenings in the world, and downloading information I need to survive. I have entire hard drives full of all the information needed to restart civilization from scratch if needed. The day the Internet shuts down is the day this computer becomes a glorified ebook reader and video player. That’s perfectly fine with me.

          ““I don’t have to drive the newest car” Doesn’t matter, it’s your DRIVER’S LICENSE that will be implanted, not your car, duh.”

          I haven’t had a driver’s license in almost 10 years, fool. Doesn’t stop me from driving, does it? I’m actually sitting in my car right this minute. Guess what I’ll be doing here in a few minutes? Driving home. Imagine that: a car that will start without having to insert a driver’s license first. It’s the latest technology, new for 1986.

          ““I can hunt and gather food” and live like a rat hiding in the woods and rain and snow. I’d pay money to see that shit!”

          I don’t have to live in the woods, idiot. I have a FARM way out in the boondocks, stocked with everything I need to survive for years without stepping one foot outside. Also, it doesn’t snow here.

          “Hey, don’t hate the messenger. I’m just telling you how it’s going to go down.”

          No you’re not. What you’re doing is being a mouthpiece for the enemy. You are a defeatist, and just like all defeatists, you love to drag others down with you.

          “And don’t get me wrong, I’m pissed about this just as much as most of you, if not more.”

          No you’re not. If you were pissed you would try to do something about it, instead of laying there and accepting your “fate” like a bitch, and trying to convince anyone who will listen to give up now because it’s no use.

          Let’s face facts: you are a loser and failure. If you had any interest in being a winner you would start thinking and talking like a winner, instead of pretending like the battle is lost before it has even been fought.

    • Son of Liberty says:

      In our hubris, and possible arrogance, I think many of us are misunderstanding what Billy Hill is saying. If you read the book of Revelation, and the discussion of the Mark of the Beast – it will not be optional IN MANY RESPECTS. Those who do elect NOT to receive the mark (whatever that may be, and however it will be executed) will be pursued and hunted down like animals. Who knows, there may even be a bounty put on the heads of those for the cause of Christ would reject such a ‘mark.’ It would fit in with some of the more radical UN leftists to reduce the number of people in the world – that’s for sure.

      With the modern technology at the stage we have now, finding you and/or your family will not be a problem. You may get off a couple of shots at the aggressor, but again – you might not.

      PTL, there WILL be a place of refuge (Rev. 12:14ff), and I pray we who are freedom loving people will be able to get there – where ever in the world it might be.

      Wood, in his book “DISCOVERY TO CATASTROPHE,” deals with this in some respect. Let’s think before we spout off our frustrations at another commentator. We might all benefit.

      Blessings,

      Son of Liberty

      • Two Words ... says:

        Well Said …

      • hmmmmm says:

        Revelation12: 14 never thought of it like that–thanks.

      • Nathan Cline says:

        “If you read the book of Revelation, and the discussion of the Mark of the Beast – it will not be optional IN MANY RESPECTS. ”

        The book of Revelations was written 2,000 years ago, long before any of the nations preparing to go to war with each other right now were even thought of. This book, just like every other book in the Bible, should never be interpreted as if it’s a literal roadmap of exactly how things are going to happen. The “end times” does not come only once; it occurs over and over throughout history, in one civilization after the next. The end times of America are not going to be exactly like some prophet 2,000 years ago predicted for Israel way back in the day. Those who expect the Bible to give them a literal play by play account of what’s supposed to go down are going to end up getting themselves killed when things don’t work out exactly the way they expected. That’s why the Bible also says “Do not lean on your own interpretation”, but pay attention to what God is telling you in the here and now.

  3. The Prophet says:

    I have an old drivers license at home. It’s made out of thick paper. It has my name, dob, address, SS number, and description of me, but no picture. That was before cell phones, personal computers and credit cards. They could steal your ID, but it wouldn’t affect you. Are we better off now?

  4. 95lbgermank9 says:

    Dam if I cant use my phone Im going to have to buy an alarm clock dont 4get the pet food

  5. Anonymous says:

    Darn, it just too long for the water to boil. Everything has been passed and the frogs still waiting for boiling water? Too late frogs.

  6. ebola scare to be used to implant?

    if they hype it good enough it just might be

  7. VRF says:
    Comment ID: 3222925
    September 10, 2014 at 11:22 am
    O/T

    My kid is taking drivers ed, she is in her segment 2 classes

    guess what question got asked of the entire class of kids taking their segment 2 classes?( segment 2 class is only 3 days than they can go for their drivers licence test at DMV)

    the question asked
    “are there any guns in your house”

    Out of a class of about 15 kids only 1 raised their hand(obviously not my kid), so the word must be getting out to collectively tell the establishment to fuck off!

    Educate your kids on what not to say, and why.. the life you save could be theirs

  8. PKLauLau says:

    OT: Not that we didn’t already know but….she will be on the cover of OUT magazine, the biggest LBGT magazine in America, with an shocking “announcement” …..

    http://nationalreport.net/michelle-obama-claims-upcoming-interview-will-shock-world/

    God help us….

    PKLL

  9. Warchild Dammit! says:

    Any implant system can and will be beaten for those who want to,I actually love govt. depending so much on tech as it can always be beaten but also requires so much to keep running,long term lost cause though they will try.

  10. Anonymous says:

    How they do Microchip Implant in cats? Barn Cat are you ready for it?

  11. David says:

    When I can insert one of these implants in every one of the Members of Congress (535), The President, and the White House staff, then I’ll get one, too. Until then, FUCK OFF!

  12. David says:

    Little off topic, but more of your freedoms going to hell.

    A Lieutenant Colonel took his daughter to school (on her first day at this school) and he was told to turn around and go change his clothes if he wanted to enter the school. Because his attire would offend some of the students. What was he wearing? Wait for it….his military uniform!!!!!!

    This happened in Detroit, Michigan. Now is this a mere coincidence, or is it because there is a BOOMING POPULATION of MUSLIMS in Michigan.

    So, what can be done. Simple. Get rid of the academics that teach the USA is a bad place, a bad people, and whatever bad happens to them is well deserved.

    You can be sure that this school is run by LIBERALS. (Most are). The people who have students in that school need to rise up and DEMAND accountability for this travesty. There needs to be a thorough house cleaning!

  13. slingshot says:

    It is one damn thing after another. Again who thinks up all this stuff and for who’s benefit? Mankind is getting too big for its britches and the law of unintended consequences will catch up with us. There are many new discoveries that are good but they always have that two edge sword and evil is unveiled.
    When it is all over, the cockroach will inherit the earth.

  14. lena says:

    yep, regardless; if govts take control of everything of not; the technology will issue enough controls on people 25 to 50 years ago; that the govt controls wont matter.

    technology either is there now or is within 10 years of reporting everything you eat and drink, where you are every minute of the day and what you are doing.

    even if govts are kept from controlling you thru law, your employer controls will increase severely. if its economically feasable for companies to install software that tells what you are doing on your computer, where you are surfing on the web, when you are at your desk and when you are away; why woulndt they ? and why wouldnt they want to know if you drank 4 shots of rum last night if you are not working much the next day ? the future looks very grim for anyone not in the elite group.

    your grandkids, presuming the govt will allow you to talk to them and will not be a bad influence; are going to ask you what freedom was like.

  15. swinging richard says:

    If someone comes up with a new technology , the bad guys will come up with a way to beat that technology.

  16. Warchild Dammit! says:

    Sling,don’t forget Twinkies,they and cockroaches will rule the post apocalyptic world!When hostess went under things were looking grim for the Twinkie,luckily,they were resurrected!

  17. Winston Smith says:

    Well, it’s not like the .gov just bought 30,000 guillotines to deal with those who refuse to comply with RFID implantation. I mean, who would believe such a thing?

    • lena says:

      you say guillotines, i say a billion rounds of ammunition; lets call the whole thing living in an totalitarian state !

      • lena says:

        thinking about what is coming and what this country is turning into, why i dont come home from work fridays and drink until i passout repeatedly until monday; i dont know.

        • Winston Smith says:

          You could, but watching the horror show unfold in front of you is just so much more fun! Besides, if you already know what’s coming, why not just spend some time at the range on the weekends? You’re gonna die by their hand anyways so you might as well be ready to take a few of them along with you.

          • lena says:

            believe me winston, i am ready for that day. i am not more than 10 feet from a gun anywhere in my house.

            and i have some really special shotgun shells that have ball bearings tied together by a metal wire. if i have to use those, that carnage will be vomit enducing.

            and i am seriously considering buying smoke.

            i imagine if i have the element of suprise, i could take down double digits before they take me out.

            • MayBeSo says:

              “and i have some really special shotgun shells that have ball bearings tied together by a metal wire. if i have to use those, that carnage will be vomit enducing.”

              Hah!…’Chain-Shot!’ Back…WAY back, A LONG time ago…it was a standard practice in naval warfare to load canon with TWO balls..tied tohether with a length of chain. Why? With that they could ‘de-mast’ opposing vessles, leaving then DEAD in the water.

              GREAT idea Lena…Umm, did you make those (or have them made up) or did you FIND those ‘somewhere’…I can only IMAGINE the carnage that THAT would cause…Whew, talk about ‘Home defense’! WOW!

            • Warchild Dammit! says:

              Lena,for forced door raids,two glass bottles inside were door meets wall,1 has bleach/other ammonia,makes a nice welcoming gas for any home invaders.

  18. Blabbermouth says:

    If gates is behind it no need to worry. The chip won’t work it will just update itself every 2 years.

    • Sinner says:

      @Satori

      Just read on Breitbart that the pilot who flies the plane bringing Americans with Ebola to the U.S., says that they are brings a bunch more people with it here than is being reported……things that make me go hmmmm?

      • Nopittypartyhere says:

        Read that. Not surprised. We are FUBAR as a nation. Going out to top off all gas tanks and cans tonight, including propane tanks. Hope I’m overreacting. Praying for the best, prepping for the worst.

        • Warchild Dammit! says:

          No pity,filled my gas tank,will be used one way or another,try and never let the tanks go below a 3/4 mark on gauge.

          • Nopittypartyhere says:

            Can’t convince the hubby to store more fuel around here. My son on the other hand just walked in and asked if he should take a bob to school. He has 1 mile to walk home, and no thugs in our town. He will have about 45 min before all hell could break loose from across the river, possibly longer. (Its a target rich environment across the river). He has marching orders if power kicks and cellphone stops to get home, get some cash and hit the convenience stores for anything non perishable he can carry. I hear it won’t get that bad, but he knows what to do.

            • Ghost Rider says:

              NPPH;
              Sounds like you are raising a fine young man. Good for you.
              Thankfully for me I work close to home and my two young boys are only a mile from my house, so I can get them on the way home.
              My wife has more a journey at about a 10 mile trek. But my plan is to secure my kids with family then bike towards my wife to help secure her walk home.

              GR

  19. Thinker says:

    Just had an X-flair where is Be.I or jog? Maybe it will fry some of this technocratic BS.

    • Been wondering about *BeInformed*

      • Ghost Rider says:

        It has been a while since he’s posted. May be we went dark.

        GR

        • MayBeSo says:

          Been wondering about that myself,

          The activity in Iceland has steadily increased slowly in magnitude since it began, uniformly so…ie, it is NOT diminishing. The last event I monitored from there was a 5.4…the largest event thus far. I would REALLY like to hear what Be Informed’s ‘take’ is on that at this point.

          Too, what I find fascinating is that we are – here -seeing the exact same increases in Siesmic – PRE-facto – that we previosuly saw a couplke of years ago when Solar was relatively high…the coincidence factor here is rather striking. Remember that per Jog’s and Be Informed’s previous dialogues that IF the core is in fact a radioactive body THEN this is exactly what we would expect prior to the onset of increased Solar activity…a change in the radioactive half-lives of various radio-nucleiides (likely shorter), implying increased ‘activity’ therefrom. Net reult…GREATER thermal generation from the core, hence increased tectonics. And yes, this HAS been validated at the academic level previously…the change in ‘half-life’ at or before major changes in Solar activity.

          Till later then all.

        • Anonymous says:

          Soon we all need to go dark. Mac needs to post the last article as DARKNESS IN AMERIKA.

    • MayBeSo says:

      Kudos to Thinker,

      Beat me to it it looks like, “Well Done’. For those who haven’t been following on – and yes, it IS a bit difficult here! – JOG is at the forward ‘AO’ permanently. Coincidentally, I have spent quite a bit of time with that one over the last several months learning all I can…unfortunately, I – myself- will not be here ‘in the rear’ much longer, my own departure ( the last time I will be here) is near at hand…then finally, HOME again. However, I’ve left what little I have gleaned form THAT one down below…hope it helps. Also, THIS flare may have CONSEQUENCES…see what is posted at the bottom.

      NOTE: I am NOT sure HOW FAST the figue given below actually is – in context – but I have heard him say before that ‘anything over 3000 Km/sec, is TOO FAST”. That’s all I can offer here…

      • Two Words ... says:

        Are we talking “American Blackout’ or “Knowing” types of events?

        Speak clearly…

        • MayBeSo says:

          @ Two Words,

          Interesting Handle. More clearly then; the Carrington event produced a wave that proceeded from THERE to HERE in 18 hours…do the math, 93 million miles in 18 hours…as I recall that worked out to about 5 million miles per hour, this one is incoming at around 3.5 million miles per hour based on NOAA’s estimate. Does that suffice?

      • Thinker says:

        Thanks MaBeSo; For doing your best to fill in for JOG in hope he is well and at peace! What an intelligent man we all who new him(or his posts miss his intellect) seems we (or most of the (old posters) are digging in and have had the time to understand what and who brought this illusion and my participation with the dark side is ending,And from here on out the light will guide me home.Do not fear,as this is evil’s trump card they can’t do a thing without our participation. We are all one in the good fight,hold your enemies close and your loved ones closer and we will meet on the bright side!
        Free!!

        • MayBeSo says:

          OMG!!

          Thinker,…”Free at last, Free at last…Thank God Almighty, FREE AT LAST”

          Indeed, there is seldom a day goes by when ‘he’ doesn’t talk of most of those here; I BELIEVE that he thinks of you all as ‘extended family’ …the one he would gladly have taken as his own. Those of LIKE minds…

          Your post almost disturbs me though..as if you are going ‘far away’…I hope not. Indeed, there will soon shine a Light the likes of which Humanity has never seen in all it’s long days….a marvel surpassing! I hope that you are there to see it ‘Friend’ All too soon Humanity will finally DECIDE what it will – finally – BECOME and as that question is realized thoughout the minds of all people everywhere a darkness will temporarily fall…but then the DAWN will come – in a glory surpassing all imagination…I KNOW this…Oh but I wish I could say more here, I cannot though, so I have promised…it is – for me and mine – ‘the price of ADMISSION’, capice?

          PLEASE look at the entry I left back in the last strat-blog…the one about Oregon and such…that comes from HIM directly’ it is a marvelous place, I HAVE been there; pasing through to SEE as I came ‘home’.

          I should tell you something else…from where we ‘are’ we can still ‘see’…but it has become neccessary to NOT “say”, ….again, Capice? He spends no small time checking up on things…and sees that many here are ‘shouldering the load, and he is delighted to see THAT co-operation, for it presages what will COME. Likely that – in part – is why he talks so much about everyone..to be SO vary near..and yet so FAR away. And yes, I THINK it drives him just a ‘little batty’ along the way…by not responding, not being able to. Only here, from the “rear” is it now safe to do so.

          “Fare Thee Well….wheresoever Thou goeth!”…Yes, we WILL meet again..in LIGHT!…Praise God Almighty, the End is already written. Good Night.

        • Ghost Rider says:

          @Thinker;
          Your post gave me chills !!

    • Nathan Cline says:

      There are so many things going wrong in the world right now, anything could be the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak. We should live every day as if an X class flare or worse, an EMP may come along at any minute and disrupt everything. Remember, the difference between a solar flare and an EMP is the solar flare does not produce the sudden, intense burst that fries solid state devices. That is produced by an EMP only. Both solar flares and EMP have a long, slow wave that energizes long transmission lines to tens of thousands of volts, and that’s where the dangers comes in, by ruining our electrical grid. Your electronic devices will be fine if they’re not plugged into the grid. I still have not found conclusive information about what the effect may be on solar cells though. In an EMP attack the diodes will likely be fried, and maybe your charge controller (so keep backups of these), but I believe the cells themselves will likely be OK.

  20. Satori says:

    Ebola evacuations to US greater than previously known

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-ebola-evacuations-has-included-more-patients–air-ambulance-operator-says-160126831.html

    just more evidence that the government cannot ever be trusted

  21. River Rat says:

    Take this for what it’s worth. I would not put it pass POTUS tonight in his speech to give some kind of code word, phrase etc. to tell whoever to do your thing. This bunch is HELL bent to destroy the United States of America by any means they can; make no mistake about it. Everyone be on your guard and keep your eyes open and your ear to the ground. Perilous times have arrived. Be careful my friends.

    River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!
    TSORIITA/GPTDY!!

    • Pissed Off Granny says:

      Yes, Riverrat:

      The MSM brainwashing is full speed ahead. Just saw a poll on faux news that 60% of Americans want the US to be engaged “up to our ears” in Syria. Is there 60% of Americans willing to send their loved ones to slaughter for the international bankers? We were brainwashed into two world wars to eliminate communism and dictators. Ask yourself how that turned out? What did America gain from all thosw lost lives. And now WW3 looming, just as Albert Pike said it would.

      From Syria, it will be on into Iran, the PTB’s prize of prizes.

      Some are saying the “cockroachs” will inherit the world. I say the “cockroachs” already own most all of it.

      Syria, Iran, and the patriots of America are all that stand in the way of the OWO the “cockroachs” have been working towards for thousands of years.

      May the good Lord look after you and yours.

  22. eppe says:

    Sure getting scarwwy out there…. Enjoy…

    A precious little girl walks into a PetSmart shop and asks,
    in the sweetest little lisp, between two missing teeth, “Excuthe me,
    mithter, do you keep widdle wabbits?”
    As the shopkeeper’s heart melts, he gets down on his knees so that
    he’s on her level and asks, “Do you want a widdle white wabbit,
    or a thoft and fuwwy, bwack wabbit, or maybe one like that cute widdle
    bwown wabbit over there?”
    She, in turn, blushes, rocks on her heels, puts her
    hands on her knees, leans forward and says, in a tiny quiet voice,

    “I don’t think my python weally gives a thit.”

  23. Indy Colts says:

    With all the card data being stolen from large organizations, it will be only a matter of time before people will submit to Microchipping for their “own protection” It’s all by design.

    The NWO craves CONTROL like a crackhead wants another hit from the pipe

  24. Sinner says:

    A few months ago the woman who started/runs the “Start Page” website was on a Christian talk show that I listen to. According to her, a RFD chip cannot be implanted into a human because they have been found to cause cancer.

    There are all sorts of different ideas on this but, my take on “The mark of the beast” thing is when a person is a devout Muslim, they tend to get a “rug burn” type scare on their foreheads from bowing during their prayers. Maybe?

    (I know, all of you “Theologians’, who attend church once a year and have read the Bible through 2-3 times in your lives can now tell me how I wasted 3 years in seminary, because your favorite televangelist has a lock on the absolute truth…blah-blah-blah….)

    • Winston Smith says:

      I read an interesting theory once about the Antichrist and Islam. The theory was that the messianic figure in Islam called the Mahdi coincides with the Christian view of the Antichrist. Thus, you would truly be forced to choose what you believe. Those who did not submit (Islam is a word meaning submission) would be put to the sword. Seems an awful lot like what we are seeing today.

    • Acid Etch says:

      GO TO FUCKING CHURCH IF YOU WANT TO PREACH

      THIS IS A SURVIVAL FORUM

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Acid Hole, really you need to cease fire. Your outnumbered. A lot of folks will pray for you but as far as I’m concerned, you can be kindling for the fire that’s about to consume the bastards that deserve it. Or you can repent and go from there.

      • Anonymous says:

        Acid; Can’t handle free speech? Can’t handle other’s opinions? you’re one to talk, you always comment on something that isn;t related to the topic at hand. Look in the mirror! sick yet?

      • Jim in Va. says:

        acic..Got something against free speech and other’s opinions? you are a very intolerant troll. go look in the mirror and take a barf bag with you. you are a total ass.

        • Nopittypartyhere says:

          Jim, are you near Hillsville? Maybe next time hubby and I come down to camp for the weekend we could meet up in town? Would be nice to know folks down near our place that aren’t city folks looking to escape.

      • Winston Smith says:

        It may be a survival forum, but you don’t own it. Thus you read it of your own free will. If you don’t like the religious bent of some of those on here then may I suggest you find an online community that is more to your liking? It’s not like there is a poverty of choice in this regard.

    • PO'd Patriot says:

      Don’t know Sinner sounds pretty thin to me. The Mark to me, will be some sort of physical tattoo/branded either on the forehead or arm to accept the mark. I’m inclined to believe that this iris recognition or driver license enhancement is a forerunner to the “mark”. It to me it is just greasing the skids for the I.D./Mark ENDGAME. YMMV. P.S. I’m wide open to hear any other opinion.

  25. femaregion1 says:

    Would any of these RFID chips or other tracking devices work if an EMP bomb went off? Just curious…

    • Two Words ... says:

      No.
      The pulse would effectively fry any solid-state electronic device or circuit that is not protected (hardened) with the exception of vacuum tube ciruitry (and it would probably need to be powered down to survive).

      • Winston Smith says:

        Maybe. It all depends on the strength of the EMP and how shielded or exposed a device is. For example, it is highly likely that a modern car would run just fine after such an event because it’s essentially a Faraday cage. This is why a car can be hit by lightening and still be drivable. The devices most likely to be affected are those connected to the grid somehow as the power, telephone and cable lines will form giant antennas and concentrate the electrical potential.

  26. Barn Cat says:

    To get the Mark of the Beast you will to swear allegiance to the world leader. Until we have a one world government we can’t have the Mark of the Beast.

    • Winston Smith says:

      Give it a few more months. Yes, you are correct about it being a political allegiance and not merely a financial one. However, I think we are reaching an inflection point in world history that will shortly culminate in the rise of the Antichrist. I just hope I am wrong and the Rapture happens before things get too ugly.

    • Sinner says:

      @Barn Cat
      Once again I am asking you to stop commenting on my posts. Your total lack of understanding real “Classic” Christianity is embarrassing. All you do is repeat lies.

      What you think you know is in fact a cult called Dispensationalist Theology. It’s a con job, pushed on Christian know-nothings to fill pews, sell books, employ televangelists and fill collection plates.

      Go away, leave me alone, get raptured, whatever. If you were a sincere Christian, you would seek the truth. There are plenty of good Christian schools like Westminster, Knox Seminary, Reformation Bible College, Puritan Seminary, or Reformed Seminary.

      GO AWAY!

    • Anonymous says:

      Someone told me any one who owns 40 plus cats already is the beast and no need to get the mark.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Wouldn’t surprise me.

      • passinwiththewind says:

        Easy now, about owning forty cats and being a beast.

        My dear ole sweet grandmother had about that many at one time.
        However, they had plenty to eat from the dead chickens daily, in the two 400 ft. chicken houses that grandpa owned. Back in the seventies, they didn’t incinerate, they just dug a twenty ft deep, 12 x 12 hole and threw them in. The cats would dig under the cover and have a buffet.

        At evening Grandma would go out back and call them up, and throw out the days food scraps. (Hogs had become a thing of the past for them).

        It looked like a maze of different colors and shapes as they came from all directions. They lived under old buildings and in the woods.
        Some were crossed with bob cats. Wirey little critters.

        Eventually, uncle decided to have target practice day and thinned them down to about a dozen. Grandma wasn’t too happy about that, and her baby boy was the only one that could get away with it.

        I personally don’t care for cats; especially inside the house. i don’t care how good a person cleans, there is always a distinct odor of cat piss. To me a cat litter box inside a persons living quarters shows a persons weakness and stupidity. Sorry cat people.

        Reminds me of a girl i picked up one night at a bar in 1985. We clicked that night because I remembered her from High School, and she had recently gotten divorced like i had. When asked if i would like to follow her home and possibly stay the night i was like…”swing”.
        After romping on the couch, and the floor, and then the bed, I finally got out of my new sweater and pants and we snuggled under the covers. Her house was old and drafty. It was left to her by her grandparents.

        Anyways, the next morning as i put my clothes on, i noticed hairs on my sweater. I said something about pets and she said, “Oh yea, I’ve got to feed them”, and she opened the basement door and in came about half a dozen squawling cats. She fed them and climbed back into bed, since it was cold as ice in there. Most of those darn cats climbed up on the bed with her and she just snuggled them up.

        that was my que, to hit the frozen trail. When i got home I put my new sweater into the wash. Four washings later and i still had a mo-hair sweater, mo cat hair than I could stand. That sweater went to Goodwill.

        But, owning a herd of cats on the outside, doesn’t make me think any different towards a person.
        I’m not judging, that’s just my personal observance and choice.

        • hmmmmm says:

          My mother had a beautiful white Persian cat.
          I opened the fridge one day and out floated a white hair.
          Yes, the hair is hard to deal with.
          Mom loved that cat; one day, it was just gone!!

  27. eppe says:

    A married couple in their early 60s was celebrating their 40th wedding anniversary in a quiet, romantic little restaurant. Suddenly, a tiny yet beautiful fairy appeared on their table. She said, ‘For being such an exemplary married couple and for being loving to each other for all this time, I will grant you each a wish.’ The wife answered, ‘Oh, I want to travel around the world with my darling husband.’ The fairy waved her magic wand and – poof! – two tickets for the Queen Mary II appeared in her hands. The husband thought for a moment: ‘Well, this is all very romantic, but an opportunity like this will never come again. I’m sorry my love, but my wish is to have a wife 30 years younger than me.’ The wife, and the fairy, were deeply disappointed, but a wish is a wish. So the fairy waved her magic wand and poof!….the husband became 92 years old. The moral of this story: Men who are ungrateful bastards should remember fairies are female.

  28. You will have 3 choices for your RFID CHIP:

    Mint Chip

    Chocolate Chip

    Potato Chip

    Choose Wisely…

  29. MayBeSo says:

    Solar Alert,

    An X-1.6 is seen clearly originating from NOAA 12158 peaking at 17:45 UTC. The current location of 12158 IS within the ‘central margin’ (the central area which acounts for the solid angle of 30 degree’s facing the Earth) of the visible Solar disk. The Spring 212 M-class events that caused rapid proton flux events here on Earth WERE proximately within that region…

    Yep, this one will PROBABLY ‘leave a mark’.

    • MayBeSo says:

      Slight correction to the preceding,

      …”The spring 2012 M-class events…”

      As always, consult the WSA-Enlil simulation at SolarHam for the most current projections as to potential mass ejecta.

    • MayBeSo says:

      Whoa, this gets worse,

      The type-II event listed by NOAA for significant solar eruptions – generally – includes an estimmate of the velocity of the ejecta (planee-of-sky) and in this case it IS VERY high, 3750 km/sec…I’m not sure how that rates historically, but I DO know that is very high indeed, so ‘Heads-up’ everyone.

      • Nopittypartyhere says:

        Solar ham suggests a possible geomagnetic storm this weekend…I really need to brush up on this. Sure miss JOG. I wasn’t around very long before he dropped off this net. Wish I was in a position to go Galt.

        • lol…look at the syntax…

          • MayBeSo says:

            Hello JRS,

            Actually “No”, but the complement is taken to heart; many Thanks therefor. You might view this as ’emulation’, I am but a proxy; I admire the mind of ‘that one’ more than I can say – especially after having experienced it ‘first hand’; up close and personal…thus my poor efforts here, glad to see that they are taken thusly! I am flattered.

          • Ghost Rider says:

            @JRS;
            I thought so at first as well. But JOG was a shitty speller (no offense JOG)(LoL), MayBeSo has some of his writting characteristics but not enough to be him, IMHO. And besides, most of the time I didn’t understand half the physics of what JOG was saying.

        • MayBeSo says:

          @ npph,

          “Wish I was in a position to go Galt.”

          Indeed…but to put it simply, “It’s a choice…” plain and simple. That said, I – as well as ‘others’ – believe that in relatively short order circumstances will begin to convince many that THAT choice is the right one for them..for themselves.

          Few choices in this Life are without conseqence – some immediate, some later – but what it all boils down to is “…what is GAINED vs what is LOST”; soon that equation will for – many here – begin to change. I see here, after returning for this brief, time CHANGES – broadly – that are beyond ‘sobering’. PURE Fools are in charge of the Asylum…it will not END well.

          However, I will tell you this; there IS safety to be had, peace and security far away from interference…but it MUST be sought OUT, diligently… earnestly and it WILL require vast effort; so it is.

          …Thus we are WHERE we ARE. WHERE are YOU?

          Keep on keepin’ on Folks…you have no idea how much we will NEED each other, later. I re-iterate here, “Hyder, Alaska”. LEARN….

    • MayBeSo says:

      Worse still,

      The X-flare peaked at 17:45…bt did not subside below M-class till ~20:35…thus it’s DEFINITELY an “LDE”. It’s almost a certainty – now – that this will HIT given it’s location of the visible disk…

    • MayBeSo says:

      Soooo’k,

      Here goes….the current NOAA proton flux readings – all three, 20, 50 and 100 MeV bands- are all seen climbing abruptly at this point. The rise is distinct, inasmuch as there are NO cases where 100 MeV protons are spuriously produced…no fluke, in other words.

      There WILL be geo-effective event to follow. This pattern has been seen numerous times previously and is a result of what is – effetively – a strong ‘shock wave’ in the Interstellar medium, so ‘Buckle Up Folks, it’s going to be a bumpy ride’…maybe.

      • Archivist says:

        I just checked my email, and my source from Australia pegged the flare at X 1.7. Not Carrington level, but may affect radio.

        Will be going dark after awhile just in case of that or possible monkey business tomorrow.

        • MatBeSo says:

          Hello Archivist,

          …FWIW, we will likely see broad raido spectrum disruption, though thankfully, not a lot else. JOG has repeatedly indicated to me that the danger lies in anything in that region (the near center of the visible face) emitting something along the lines of a ‘X-teen’ flare or greater. That said, it is also the case that …’prudence dictates caution’ as there is always a certain variability in HOW the ejecta from anysuch is ejected..ie, it’s actal mass/density/velocity vector…not exactly like what one sees in the explosion of a high explosive.

          Anyhow, in a few more hours we’ll habve a better understanding of the parameters here involved.

          Incidentally – at npph here – the difference between UTC and standard time is 5 hours…unless we’re on ‘Daylight savings Time’, then it’s six. ‘UTC’ is just another way of saying ‘Greenich Mean Time’; same thing, differnt name…

      • Nopittypartyhere says:

        On the Solar Ham site, what is the time differential for UTC? Can’t figure out the time difference. Drudge is now reporting scientists are warning possible grid disruptions, satellite disruptions, radio comms problems. Definitely differs from previous articles about CME I’ve seen before.

      • This Texan Has Had Enough says:

        I just put all the electronics we use on a daily basis in the Faraday cage, except this computer. Guess I will be going dark until we see what happens and where on earth it hits. God bless us all.

        • MayBeSo says:

          ” God bless us all.”

          Yes..he always does, doesn’t he? As well, “My sheep know my voice…and come to me when I call them…”

          Likely, we’ll see significant radio disruption as it arrives. JOG – long ago – mentioned that the DANGER in a CME lies in the ‘ground loop’ conductivity. IF it were the case that NOAA had called this at – oh say – 5000 kn/sec then it would be utterly neccessary – also – to CUT the grounds in and out of all your structures (temporarily until the wave had subsided. It is on the ground loop that the ‘earth voltages’ will do the harm…variously estimated during the Carrington event to have been OVER 800 Volts as the CME hit Earth…imagine what that would do to mirocircuitry or other delicate electronic/electrical machines! There are few initial effects from an incident Solar X-pulse that harm us here on Earth…unless it’s HUGE – X-20 or above – it is the CME’s effects – after that – that are normally of greatest concern.

          In the case of a nuclear-induced EMP from high altitude the scenrio is different, reversed, the EMP trash’s eveything instantly…much moreso than typical Solar activity does, but there is no after-effect that is dangerous…except for fallout of course.

          However, there is another possibility; a REAL bad one, that being an incident ultra-high energy gamma pulse originating from a ‘magnetar’ (look it up at Wiki) OR from a Hypernova… those are fully capable of ELE-level effects on us here: first an ultra-EMP wave, then huge amounts of NOX – nitric acid rain – everywhere, killing all crops for a decade. “Grim”, to say the least.

          You might want to look up ‘Eta Carina’ over at Wiki while you are there, it’s an example of the later category…and it WILL ‘go off’ at some point in the future…a day, a moonth 10,000 years, or more…not ‘IF’…but ‘WHEN’ only, as a certainty.

  30. Sgt. Dale says:

    I put a Micro chip in my dog because he can’t talk and tell you where he belongs.
    As for me they can micro chip them self by shoving it!!!
    Is it the mark of the BEAST I don’t know but I’m not going to take the chance!
    You do realize that you have Micro chips in your credit card, Illinois FOID cards, Drivers license. Easy way to shut them down 2 seconds in the microwave.
    A.S.M.S.
    Sgt.

  31. River Rat says:

    ROLL TIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE UPCOMING COLLEGE FOOTBALL SEASON.

    WELL, HERE’S A QUICK RECAP OF LAST YEAR………

    Alabama beat Arkansas and Arkansas fired their coach.

    Alabama beat Tennessee and Tennessee fired their coach.

    Alabama beat Auburn and Auburn fired their coach.

    Then Alabama beat Notre Dame, and the Pope resigned.

    Question: How do we get the White House to play Alabama?

    River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!!
    TSORIITA/GPTDY!!

  32. Burt Gummer says:

    ” tiny implant that acts as a contraceptive”…yeah, it give you a headache.

  33. jpl_texas says:

    This is a pre-requisite to implementing a world currency system and immigration controls. Imagine only having buying power in approved regions – will keep you from wondering too far – who needs a fence or border controls.

  34. KY Mom says:

    Off Topic…

    EV-D68 has now spread to 12 states.

    States prepping for virus sickening Midwest

    “Enterovirus D68 has been confirmed in Missouri and Illinois, and 10 additional Midwest states have contacted the Centers for Disease Control and Preventionfor support in investigating the virus, the agency said this week.

    According to the CDC, EV-D68 is difficult to distinguish from a common cold and the agency said the outbreak would likely get worse before it gets better.”

    The Spectrum

  35. 11 missing airliners
    Open southern border
    9-11 anniversary tomorrow
    Isis warning that they are inside the USA
    Stupid distracted golfing president that has admitted he’s a Muslim
    A quickly developing police state
    Questionable actions of military , dhs etc
    Simply coincidence ?

    Keep it frosty and don’t back down
    If they think this is going to be easy , let’s educate them on how it’s really going to go

  36. rockelle says:

    That commercial made me throw up in my mouth a little.

  37. Frank Thoughts says:

    Hey, conspiracy nuts! It is 11 September and nothing has happened. All that blogging and conspiracy pondering and there is no false flag. Yawwn!

  38. The leader says:

    Chip my ass. Finger print….plug me into the NWO and open doors for me.
    Secure my building and give me reminder about all sorts of shit.
    Find those who would do harm.

    Drink the coolaid folks.
    All this prepper shit is crap.
    I just tossed out hundreds of dollars of canned shit.
    Years flies by and nothing goes down.

    I’m all into the NWO boys and am swimming like a fish in a six figure salary.

    You will all thumbs down this.

    I rock with all the latest tech and can plug into the systems from anywhere.

    It all comes down to database transactions.
    That’s all.
    You never were free… you just thought you were.
    You become free when doors open to you.
    You walk onto planes and don’t get hassled when your card swipe works.
    That’s freedom.

    Run with the elite.

    All you old boomers will die off and I’ll be buying up your vacation home, toys and I might date your daughters for sport.

  39. The mark of the beast predicted in the Book of Revelations. No thanks