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    San Andreas for Preppers: 12 Essential Survival Lessons from the Movie

    Daisy Luther
    June 9th, 2015
    The Organic Prepper
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    This article was originally published by Daisy Luther at The Organic Prepper. Daisy is the author of The Pantry Primer: A Prepper’s Guide To Whole Food on a Half Price Budget and The Organic Canner.

    san-adreas

    Nothing warms my prepper’s heart more than a good disaster movie that supports my hypotheses about a specific event, and the recent movie San Andreas was no exception.

    Okay, sure, there was some pretty unrealistic stuff like when The Rock was driving a boat through post-tsunami San Francisco and just happened to find his daughter that he was looking for. The last time I went to San Francisco, my daughter and I had trouble finding each other on the first floor of Forever 21, for crying out loud.

    But, when you only have two hours for a movie, you have to be willing to suspend your disbelief somewhat and put that kind of stuff aside.  So. putting that aside, I enthusiastically recommend the movie. We live about 4 hours from San Francisco and go there occasionally for educational outings to the excellent museums, so the setting was quite familiar to us, as was the premise of what would occur if an earthquake happened there. So familiar that my daughter was the frequent recipient of my elbow, as I whispered, “See!!!! I told you this was what would happen if the Big One hit that time we went to the Science Museum!”  Trooper that she is, she said, “Yes, Mom, I know, you were right about that too.” Since she’s a teenager, she probably also rolled her eyes each time, but it was dark and I can’t be absolutely certain of that.

    As I’ve said before, you can’t overestimate the value of finding entertainment that enhances your preparedness mindset. A movie is like the prepper version of a sporting event, where we can cheer, jeer, and scheme our ways through some imagined event. It engages our love for critical thinking while allowing us to take a break from our everyday activities. (Here’s my list of 40 prepper movies you can find online.) I know that some folks don’t go to the movies or engage in any form of popular culture, which is certainly a matter of personal choice. It’s not an everyday thing for us to go to the movies, but I’m of the firm belief that a prepared lifestyle doesn’t have to be bereft of fun, especially if you want your children to get involved.  I try to enjoy outings like this with my kids every once in a while.  We really liked the movie, and the special effects were incredible in 3D.

    Here are 12 things that interested me, as a prepper, about San Andreas. I’ll try really hard to be vague enough that I don’t spoil the movie.

    1. People panic and behave badly.  In every disaster movie, there’s always someone more concerned with his or her own skin than the skin of a loved one, and this is no exception. Life-threatening terror brings out the worst in many people.  As shown in the movie, some first responders will bail to take care of their own families. The bottom line is, you can’t rely on others to save you. Also, it helps to have some knowledge of engineering and basic physics, too.
    2. People panic and behave stupidly.  During the panic of the aftermath of The Big One, people do the dumbest things.  This is true of real life too, and part of the reason for this is cognitive dissonance. People are so complacent about the stability of their everyday lives that it is difficult for them to function when something horrible and out of the ordinary occurs.  Having a mindset that plays through potential disasters ahead of time makes it far easier to accept it when something terrible happens, which in turn, makes it easier to act in a manner that will aid in survival instead of running around like a chicken without a head. (Check out How to Survive Anything in 3 Easy Stepsfor more on this.)
    3. Drop, cover, and hold on. The seismologist guy repeated the same information over and over, but most of the time, people failed to listen. When huge chunks of cement are flying at you, running down the road is not always the best course of action.  The very best thing you can do is get down under something big and stable and hold on tightly.  According to the US Department of Labor, the quake itself doesn’t cause injuries, the aftermath of structural damage causes injuries: “Most earthquake-related injuries result from collapsing walls, flying glass, and falling objects as a result of the ground shaking, or people trying to move more than a few feet during the shaking.” Structural damage to buildings would be vast in a quake like the one depicted. (Here’s more information on potential structural damage.) PS:  Your car is not a big, stable place to go to for cover. (source) Knowing what to expect in the event of an earthquake is very important.  This is a great article about earthquake survival.
    4. The ability to communicate is vital.  In the aftermath of a major disaster, your cell phone is very unlikely to work. Partly because everyone else will be trying to use their phones at the same time, and partly because local towers may also have been affected by the disaster. If you live in (or are visiting) an earthquake prone area, a secondary communications device is essential.  This article about an earthquake preparedness kit has some excellent suggestions. Remember that landlines often work when the internet and cell phones do not.
    5. Also vital: basic first aid skills.  Remember above, where I quoted how must injuries come about from the destruction of buildings?  After the earthquake in Haiti, the CDC reported that the most common injuries were fractures/dislocations, wound infections, and head, face, and brain injuries. Doctors performed wound debridements, amputations, and treatment for orthopedic trauma from crushing injuries. You need to know how to remove debris that might cause further damage, immobilize an injured limb, stop bleeding, apply a tourniquet, and clean a wound at the very least. It also helps if you have some supplies on hand or know where to find them.
    6. You should always have a plan for the family to meet.  In the movie, the family has a meeting place planned. This is not something that should be left for the day of a horrible event. You should always have a plan for your family in the event that you can’t communicate.  It helps if you can fly (and steal) a helicopter like The Rock, but since most of us don’t have access to that resource, we have to make other plans. My family always sets up meeting places in case we get separated and my kids know to go there and wait. Actually, we did this from the time they were little and my oldest daughter got in the middle of a clothing rack to “surprise mommy” and I couldn’t find her.
    7. You always need a backup plan. In the event that Plan A isn’t going to work, you need to have a Plan B. (And C and D and so on.) It’s really helpful if your family knows what Plan B is so that you are able to meet up and not hope to just randomly find one another. Again, this goes to thinking things through BEFORE a disaster occurs.   You MUST be adaptable to survive.
    8. When one disaster happens, others soon follow.  This is a frequent truth of disasters.  When one thing goes wrong, some other horrible event is often triggered by that. This was true in the movie, with things like looters, instability of structures which collapsed later, rifts in the roads, and oh yeah, a tsunami.
    9. Don’t forget tsunamis. For the love of all things cute and fluffy, if you are anywhere near the coast and an earthquake happens, GO UP. Do not wait until you see the ocean draw outward or you see the gigantic wave approaching. You aren’t going to be able to outrun it, no matter how fit you are. Immediately seek the highest point around if an earthquake occurs when you are near the coast.  We take this a step further when we visit the coast and map out the high points beforehand.  I was gratified that my two San Francisco high points were the ones noted in the movie. There is also some good advice if you just happen to be out boating when a tsunami is approaching.
    10. Don’t take the closest evacuation route, take the safest evacuation route. Because San Francisco is the point of a peninsula, it’s most directly connected to the rest of the state by long bridges. I’ve always thought it would be a terrible idea to attempt to evacuate over those bridges in the aftermath of a disaster, since a) everyone else will be doing the same thing, resulting in gridlock and b) the structure of the bridges is likely to be weakened or damaged by a huge quake and c) a tsunami coming into the bay would sweep vehicle right off the bridge even if it held up.  Oh – and d – there are sharks in the water below – lots of them, which is why Alcatraz is in the middle of the bay. I’m sure they’d just love an all-you-can-eat bridge collapse buffet. But I digress – my personal evacuation route out of the city is south, to where the peninsula joins the mainland. On foot, in a car, doesn’t matter – that is the safest route, although further. Anytime we go to San Francisco, I set up a rally point south of the city for a friend to come and pick us up should such an event occur.
    11. Bring sensible shoes.  Ladies, no matter how nice we look in heels, fleeing for your life in them doesn’t sound like much fun to me. In the movie, my daughter and I both cringed thinking about how awful it would be to have to climb out of debris in general and how doubly awful it would be to have to do it in non-sensible footwear. If you have to wear heels, at least have something sensible in your bag.
    12. Gather supplies whenever you see them. While everyone else is panicking, if you have your wits about you, you’ll be able to gather up supplies that will help you survive. Look for things like bottled water, communication devices, first aid supplies, tools, knives, lighters, and food.

    Have you seen the movie yet? What did you think? Do you have any survival lessons to add?


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    1. eppe says:

      Have you seen the movie yet? What did you think? Do you have any survival lessons to add?

      Yeah, do not live there!!!!!

      • kynase says:

        I live in So Cal. Which means not only do I have to be prepared for an earthquake, but also fires. I saw San Andreas and I’m pretty sure that particular fault will not reach a 9.6 (Be Informed…where are you to confirm this), maybe 8.4 but not 9.6. However, that is not to say that if the entire fault were to slip that the shaking wouldn’t be horrific and cause MASS destruction.

        Aside from all my supplies at my house, I keep a BOB in my car and a small supply near my bed. I’ve been in a few small quakes, nothing bad, yet. However, having grown up in Texas, I would take a tornado any day of the week. There is really no way to know exactly when the ground is going to shift. Sure, we can attempt to predict, but nothing of great certainty. With tornados, at least you know that the storm is coming and you know the sort of pressure system that can produce them. Heck, if you’ve lived in the south long enough, you know when the clouds take on that green gray color that some S*** is about to happen.

        I used to work at a school that was about a mile from the actual San Andreas fault. Aside from my teaching responsibilities, if the “big one” hit, my other role was to be on morgue duty. I kid you not. I was put in charge of the morgue. The scary part is, I would comfortably state that maybe 20% of all Cali residence have an earthquake kit. 20% might even be a bit generous.

        • TEST says:

          The interesting thing about the San Andreas is that it is a transverse fault… meaning Hollywierd is eventually going to end up near the Aleutians. Hopefully, the Hollywierd filth can be forced to stay in their homes when that happens.

          • KY Mom says:

            Daisy,

            Well done! 🙂

            I welcome books, articles, TV shows or movies that raise awareness and encourages people to become more prepared.

            I agree that movies like this can start a lot of good family discussions (especially with teenagers and older) on preparedness.

        • Anon 1970 says:

          Born, raised and still live in good ole California (insert sarcasm here). I didn’t and still do not know one person who has a kit in So. Cal. All my extended family, high school friends live there. I think it is easy to get complacent when you have heard, “The big one is coming” for so long you (they) just don’t believe it anymore.

          I am prepared for it but no longer live on top of it. I rarely even visit there. Too hot! I prefer the Central Coast and all the beautiful beaches, cool weather, and CLEAN air.

          • Steve in Ramona says:

            My wife and I both have kits in our cars. Water, food, shoes, first aid kit, knife, and a bunch of other possibly needed items. I refresh the food and water regularly.

            Btw we live in SoCal so we know it will happen someday…although someday could be 50 years from now

            • kynase says:

              Steve…I’m not too far from you. I’m in north San Diego. Good to know some normal people live out here. 🙂

              • there is a whole lot of good people in CA. Ronald Reagan was Gov. there. Its the other 65% libs and illegals that fucked up the state. I was from San Andreas and Stockton.

                • S.Lynn says:

                  D: we just sold our home in Valley Springs and high-tailed it to Idaho. The coastal libtards have ruined CA. We love the rural life but hated how our vote didn’t count.

            • Anon 1970 says:

              I lived in Hemet for a short time, 25 years ago. Interesting place;)

              I think you/we are rare. But, maybe there is a change in people who are starting to ‘wake up’.

              I grew up in Alta Loma and was born close to there (opsec, can’t connect them). I loved growing up there, but it is so big now. It has totally lost its soul. The Orange County lifestyle has totally permeated it and I detest what has happened. The whole ‘dude/bro’ thing is ridiculous. My younger siblings are so into that. Tattoes and grommets, with the stupid straight brim bb hats. I can’t even drive through without being in a bad mood.

              I most certainly do not want to be in the Inland Empire when the SHTF. Can you imagine the mess at 215/15 interchange? Or 10/15? WHAT a nightmare!

              Temecula used to be a great place too and now it is overrun with the idiots. Talk about a hot mess.

              • YazzieGirl says:

                Anon 1970,
                I used to live in Riverside and that was one of my biggest fears was ending up there if the SHTF. We got the hell out of there in Oct. 2011 and now live in MN which is very liberal too, but at least there’s not as many idiots as there are out there. We still have many friends & family there but they’ll never move.

                Some are aware that they SHOULD move, but they won’t. I hated the traffic, the bad schools, the smog, the high prices on everything and while there are many good-hearted, well-meaning people there, the overall “feel” is just yucky. And that’s too bad, because my hubby says when he was growing up in the ’60’s, it was a wonderful place. Sad.

      • Acid Etch says:

        http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-water-terrorcrats-have-crossed-my-line-heres-what-i-am-doing-about-it_062015

        The water wars I expect are going to heat up in the next few years.

        Methinks it’s time to build an underground storage pool.

      • Acid Etch says:

        Fury Road for preppers:

        Chain your whores to the wall so they can’t steal your war rig and run off with some asshole.

        BWAHAHAHAHA

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

        Anybody stoopid enough to live on a fault line by choice, deserves what he or she gets. Stoopid is, as stoopid does. Hello fruits and nuts

      • sodbuster says:

        Yesterday is past, tomorrow is future and not for certain, TODAY is the present, it’s a gift to be lived, that’s why its called present. We vacationed three summers ago San Fran to San Juan, WA. I wanted to go back the day we left, beautiful country. Hou, TX

      • eppe says:

        I guess where ever one calls home has pluses and minuses.
        I heard there is a minor fault under Georgia Tech, probably an offshoot of Madrid.
        Just a few miles from me, there was a bubbling surface volcano named Nodoroc. Search it.
        No matter where you are, something is gonna get ya….

        • KY Mom says:

          eppe,

          Good point. I agree there are pluses and minuses wherever we call home.

          Satori posted a link about a volcano. It is a short article and worth the time to read.

          I am reposting it, in case anyone missed it.

          I had never heard of this volcano and how it affected other countries.
          It makes me think of the destructive changes to the ocean from Fukishima.

          This 1783 Volcanic Eruption Changed the Course of History

          “the lava wasn’t the only threat to Iceland. Volcanic ash from the eruption was carried away by the wind and poisoned the land and sea. Animals suddenly developed “ridges” and “growths” on their legs. Observers also noted they became “bloated” and their mouths swelled. This “pestilence” – a severe fluorine-intoxication from the ash – killed half of the Icelandic cattle population and a quarter of the sheep and horse population.

          Nothing would grow on the fields and no more fish could be found in the sea. If not protected from the ash, food and water became poisonous.”

          “Those people who did not have enough older and undiseased supplies of food to last them through these times of pestilence also suffered great pain.”

          “In the resulting plague and famine from 1783-1784, an estimated nine thousand people (one-fifth of the population of Iceland) died.”

          “From 1783 to 1785 accounts from both Japan and America describe terrible droughts, exceptional cold winters and disastrous floods. In Europe, the exceptionally hot summer of 1783 was followed by long and harsh winters.

          The resulting crop failures may have triggered one of the most famous insurrections of starving people in history, the French Revolution…”

          “It’s a sobering reminder that destructive changes to the environment can have long-lasting and far-reaching impacts, even from hundreds of miles away.”

          Forbes dot com

      • Acid Etch says:

        http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/hospitals-are-blatantly-ripping-us-off

        TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF SHIT

        We raised awareness about organic food now lets raise awareness about medical ripoffs.

        Greedy fucking pigs.

        • Assed Butt Itches Dad says:

          [TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PIECE OF SHIT]

          Acid, you didn’t post a picture of yourself.
          How are people to know what a piece of shit looks like?
          Post your Pic or stay out of adult conversations.

          Regards,
          Dad

        • Anon 1970 says:

          Two weeks ago, our young daughter was hospitalized for a respiratory infection. Still haven’t gotten the bill yet, but I know it is gonna be bad, even with our cadillac insurance. Our policy expired a day after her discharge!

          You know what she was asked in the E.R. when we got there, while she was at an 88 ox pulse rate? “DO YOU FEEL SAFE AT HOME?” followed by “DO YOUR PARENTS BEAT YOU?”

          My husband nearly beat the nurse for asking it…turns out it is now LAW, they are required to ask it. My friend had the exact question asked to her 16 year, in front of her, when they went to the ER after he almost severed his fingers off.

          Things are changing and not for the better.

      • Biggest load of rubbish I have had the misfortune to see in years. Don’t waste your time or money on this film.

    2. Anonymous says:

      If there were ever any real life major disasters we could study them and not have to watch movies to find out what to do and how people react.

    3. Satori says:

      since we’re talking about earthquakes

      Cosmic-solar radiation as the cause of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions

      h ttp://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2015/06/09/cosmic-solar-radiation-as-the-cause-of-earthquakes-and-volcanic-eruptions/

    4. Havok says:

      13. Don’t live in California!

    5. Idiots_Everywhere says:

      The movie was pretty good. The effects are fan-damn-tastic.

      The movie also made fair note of the fact that the prepared daughter saved peoples lives.

    6. Confederate says:

      I wish the west coast would just fall into the sea and be done with it.

    7. slingshot says:

      Are you ready for the BIG ONE?

      What if you parked in a parking garage and it collapsed with your BOB in the trunk.

      • TPSnodgrass says:

        Then, my friend, one is SOL with a capital “S”, which is why I only will park on the top floor of a structure, IF, I HAVE to park in/on that structure with no other alternatives.

        Haven’t been through a Big One((8.0 or larger., but we have ridden several ones 7.5 and larger.
        While the included graphic shows a HUGE Tsunami “wave” about to strike San Francisco, that is completely false. The Pacific at the points depicted (including under the two towers of the Golden Gate is several hundred feet deep, thus negating a “tsunami effect”. Something FEW people try to understand when traveling various places. For example, most of the Oregon Pacific Coast, IS a huge “tsunami risk” region, because of the geological structures along that state’s coast line. In any major earthquake, the ATMs as well as other pay card(electronic) pay point systems automatically shut down, as does the electric grid, to protect the infrastructure. Gas lines frequently rupture as do water lines, making the threat of structure fries(conflagration)very real. However, the movie “San Andreas” is written by screenwriters and therefore NOT realistic as to what to expect, it IS for entertainment as opposed to strategic planning, something MOST people fail to remember.

        • Scott says:

          For that matter, how would a tsunami even have been created? San Andreas is a strike-slip fault, one that moves sideways, i.e. horizontally, not vertically as required to generate a wave much less a tsunami…

      • sodbuster says:

        I always park on the roof.

    8. When I saw the movie, I thought these same things, There was much to be learned from the daughter who was taught well.

    9. slingshot says:

      Heineken Beer Looter in Katrina.

    10. Native Born American says:

      Prepsite.org: You don’t have to be a professional prepper http://www.prepsite.org/2015/06/you-dont-have-to-be-professional-prepper.html?spref=tw

    11. TEST says:

      Lesson 1A: Don’t live anywhere NEAR the People’s Socialist Republik of Kalifornia if you can help it (I know some of you can’t… and I live in an even more bankrupt state, the Leftist Worrker’s Thugocracy of Illinois, which is actually FAR more bankrupt than CA – in fact is #8, according to credit default swaps last I looked, in possibility of bankruptcy, ranking right behind Portugal)

    12. TEST says:

      What’s with these creepy humanoid/cyborg ads at the left? Apparently, someone things they are “sexy” or something.

      Ugh.

    13. Ken Foster says:

      Always get some that say “Don’t live in California, not my problem”. For the record the area around the Mississippi river from Missouri to Mississippi has a far higer risk of earthquake damage than California.
      California is not the best state to live in but we do take earthquakes seriously, most of the buildings and bridges are rated for earthquakes upto a 7.5 event. On the other hand the mid-south is not ready for their big one. The New Madrid fault can produce a 8+ earthquake as it did in 1811 and 1812. The soil is sedimentary and prone to liquafaction unlike California which is mainly bedrock and mountains. The buildings in the mid-south are unreinfored brick and many houses are not bolted to the foundation. The damage in the mid-south for up to 200-300 miles is going to be massive. In 1811 and 1912 the 8+ earthquakes rang the church bells in Charleston SC (700 miles).
      Thus just because you don’t live in California does not mean this information is not relevant.

    14. slingshot says:

      So how does your state stack up to disaster’s?

      Everybody wants to come to Florida. Fun in the sun. Get a tan. Drink Fancy Drinks’

      Florida is prone to Hurricanes. It manages to get its share of tornado’s too. Some say when that island on the other side of the Atlantic lets go, the slide will wash away the lower peninsular from the tsunami. Also if the Madrid goes it will flush out the Gulf of Mexico, taking Florida with it. We get lots of thunderstorms, packed with lightning with down bursts of rain and hail. Then we flood. Even when we don’t flood we have stupid people, drive into the retention ponds and drown. Sink holes that swallow up homes and people. We have forest fires and this is a dry season and the swamps will burn too.

      To finish up. When Mother Nature does her thing we also have to put up with the bugs and animals that are trying to survive. Gators, Snakes, Bugs, Wild Hogs, Bobcats, Panther and Bears.
      The introduction of exotic species like lizards is a whole new arena in South Florida.

      Did I mention sharks?

      Come on down. The water’s fine. Hahahahahaha!

      • Braveheart says:

        Slingshot, I lived in south FL 1975-1982. I’m all too familiar with what you mentioned and have too many bad memories to ever go back. I’m too close to New Madrid for comfort. Once I get to the BOL in north GA, I’m a lot further away from it and have a much better chance of survival. I’ve been through a few hurricanes and tornados in my lifetime also. I’ll take either one of those over a quake. I traveled through Cali once back in the late 70s and didn’t care for it at all. Cali will get what it deserves one of these days.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

        That’s why I kovwd ro more N FL and now 44 ft above sea level. My over priced house I sold in the city, was just 8 ft above sea level. The lower half of Florida is less than 30 ft above MSL. Means Sea Level. If the actual flood surge doean’t take you out, the new FEMA Flood insurance costs will surely wipe you out.

      • fishandmud says:

        Slingshot, I’m a Cracker. Born in Miami and now in central Florida. Gotta love the bugs. If the gallon nippers don’t get you, the yellow flies and noseeums will. We will probably end up down in the Glades. Don’t know yet. What I do know is nobody is going to come down there and screw with you. We do have the climate for growing, but if you take away the electricity and A/C, only the Crackers and life long residents will make it. Sharks, gators, and iguanas, endless supply of meat.

    15. Old Guy says:

      If you are not already in a place that’s so called safe when SHTF happens for your location & person. Your chances of surviving are already greatly diminished.

    16. PO'd Patriot says:

      Sure lets play up the movie in our minds and make some money off it. Fear sells! Next…..

    17. USA #1 Freedumb says:

      the movie sucked donkey kong ball’s!

      the greatest threat from earthquakes is building collapse and fire.

      get out of the buildings as safely fast as you can, away from buildings, tall structures , power poles and wires , unto a flat hill, empty piece of land and lay down.

      beware of the after shocks! stay put till told they are over.

    18. USA #1 Freedumb says:

      wtf?

      50 Cal LIVE FIRE In Flint Michigan #JadeHelm – Troops Practicing 20 Story Extracts For Afghanistan?

    19. NorseMan says:

      In most disaster situations one of the important things to try to find out is ‘how big of an area is affected’. Very few disasters take out whole states. If you can look look around and see lights or sirens or buildings still standing in the distance, then your survival window is only hours or a day or two at most. Adjust your BoB accordingly.

    20. PO'd Patriot says:

      Until then, when the real shtf, call me. By then you’ll have to call me ‘Long Distance’.

    21. Hammer says:

      You are correct! Depending on the size of a disaster…first responders will be taking care of their families!

    22. RICH99 says:

      You guys crack me up …..all these YEARS that I told you nothing nothings gonna happen for at LEAST 5-8 years and you STILL cling to ANYTHING doom related !!!! SAD …very sad……..what you should be doing is practicing being mobile in your walker or wheelchair

      • slingshot says:

        Rich99

        It’s what you do with it. I have more knowledge than ever on how things work. Or how to garden or to make things work with unconventional procedures. Can adapt to obstructions better than most people. Confident in my work to survive. Still chopping wood and filling and moving sandbags. Plus all the little projects with problems to be solved.

        Now for that motorized armored wheel chair for future operations.

    23. Satori says:

      can you say megalomaniac ???

      Obama Goes Full Stalin: Tells Secret Court To Ignore Law He Signed 4 Hours Earlier, Extend Illegal NSA Surveillance

      ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-09/obama-goes-full-stalin-tells-secret-court-ignore-law-he-signed-4-hours-earlier-exten

      the nightmare that is Obama
      every American flag should be flying upside down

    24. Tony says:

      one day I suspect we will all look back and say yep it was just like the movie, but real

    25. What’s the best thing to ever come out of Commiefornia? Well…it was me, as I was waving bye bye from my rear view mirror crossing into Nevada. I will say this, went there to hike the John Muir Trail, did the full length, 32 glorious days of extreme pleasure. If you ever have the chance to do it I highly recommend it. Funny thing thou, didn’t meet one native from the state on the trail. At least the state has that. (John Muir Trail).

    26. slingshot says:

      You might have to figure this out on your own.

      Most cities/states have evacuation plans for certain disasters. Earthquakes with Mt. St. Helen. Hurricane tracking. Flood warning and Tornado watches.
      We are already conditioned when we hear the warnings.
      Maybe even a Dam Break Warning. What a way to depopulate a city without resistance.

      • Satori says:

        ummm
        yeah
        about those evacuation thingys

        ht tp://www.bing.com/images/search?q=houston+katrina+evacuation&qpvt=houston+katrina+evacuation&qpvt=houston+katrina+evacuation&FORM=IGRE

        if you live in a big city
        you’d better leave days before “the event”

        or

        be prepared to shelter/die in place

    27. Sgt. Dale says:

      #13
      Don’t live in places like this!!!

    28. Asshat says:

      We got the evacuation route signs leading away from the coast. I’m about 3 miles inland from the sea with a mile and a half hill between. I think I’m good if the sea opens up. Not too likely on the east coast. I don’t watch these movies unless they are on a channel I get I’m not paying to see movies made to scare dumb people. Everything Hollywood puts out is way over the top stupid and not likely to happen in real life. How many times have you heard people base their beliefs off a movie they saw. I call these people idiots that have no clue about reality or they want to believe fantasy.

    29. Billy Hill says:

      Speaking of what stupid it… don’t worry KY Mom and Co., the republicans will save us!!

      headline at drudge
      REPUBLICANS RUSH OBAMATRADE
      BEFORE PUBLIC READS IT

      http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/gop-aiming-for-friday-trade-vote-but-snag-remains-118797.html

    30. Asshat says:

      I’d go to florida in a heartbeat if the wife would go. I don’t care about the downfalls of it. I’m sick of shoveling snow fuck that bullshit driving in snow freezing cold temps salted roads rotting my vehicles out. It sucks I’d rather put up with hurricanes we get them anyway here. I think it would be far easier to survive in florida.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dude, you make me laugh. Good post.

      • Archivist says:

        Eastern NC is a good place to live. It is mostly rural. Most of the people here know how to survive. You can practice shooting in your own backyard. You can have a garden. We have a long growing season. There is usually enough rain most years. We don’t have much snow. We’ll go several years with nothing more than flurries, then get 6 or 8 inches. But it usually melts away pretty quickly. Our neighbors have goats and chickens. Lots of people here are getting chickens and raising gardens.

        If anything happens, everyone works together. If a storm knocks down trees, whoever owns chainsaws starts clearing roads and helping others. We check on old people to make sure they’re okay.

        BTW, because of the continental shelf being so wide here, most hurricanes are knocked down to Category 1 by landfall, except down around Wilmington.

        I have driven through Georgia and Florida, and I wasn’t impressed with either.

        Of course, in the South, you always get asked the same questions. Where are you from, who’s your family, and what church do you go to? I would advise you to join the closest church of your chosen denomination after you’ve visited a while to see if you like it. You meet people and make friends in church.

        If you move here, don’t complain that it’s different here, or there isn’t a bar on every corner, or there’s not much night life. People will very quickly tell you that you can go back where you came from.

    31. Satori says:

      you really really really don’t want to read this

      “Ukrainians Have Been Dispossessed” Paul Craig Roberts Warns “Americans Are Next”

      htt p://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-08/ukrainians-have-been-dispossessed-paul-craig-roberts-warns-americans-are-next

      “Where will the money come from? It will come from Americans’ pensions.”

    32. logicrazy says:

      Maps come in handy….

    33. hank says:

      For earthquake preps, cases of water for sure are cheap enough. You can get a hydralic jack and pry bar, come-along cables to help dig out.
      You can get cheap first aid/medical books at used bookstores.
      A chainsaw, a generator with some good extension cables and worklights.
      A pack of those leather work gloves, a decent belt/holster/clips rig, some spray paint so you can post that big ‘you loot, we shoot’ sign.
      hmm, what else…

    34. CommonCents says:

      Years go I lived in Silicon Valley, CA, which is just south of San Francisco. I served (temporarily) on a Board there with a few people from the USGS in Menlo Park, CA.

      So I am not a Seismologist but those in attendance all agreed (for whatever it’s worth) that the San Andreas Fault is not long enough (800 miles) or deep enough to cause more than an 8.0 quake — of course I am not making light of an 8.0, as that’s really bad.

      I survived the October 1989 7.0 Loma Prieta Quake in a 40-story high-rise bldg in midtown SF. I was on the 22nd floor. It was worse than you can imagine and I can’t even imagine an 8.0 after surviving that horrible 7.0 ordeal. But, the media sensationalizes a lot and made it seem as though the next San Andreas quake could be a 9.0, which is highly unlikely, according to the Seismologists I met.

      Anyways, all the prior prepping I had done didn’t really help much because it didn’t occur the way I thought it would and it was a different experience for everyone, depending upon their exact location at the time it struck. When you don’t have a history to draw from it makes it hard to imagine all of the variables and possibilities.

    35. The language gives away the identity says:

      The main method of “programming” the masses in our lifetime has been television. A friend of mine once called it Devilvision. No greater tool for social engineering has existed, till the internet and that “world wide web” which interconnects (ensnares?) us all.Whether one believes in predictive programming or that it merely mirrors the mind of society , there seems to be a definite connection. Recently I was exposed to Spongebob Squarepants, most specifically a movie wherein their community , Bikini Bottom , was subject to socioeconomic breakdown due to the loss of the formula needed to make their favorite food and source of pleasure…the Krabby Patty. The movie represents the base nature of a priveleged and peaceful society deprived of one of the cornerstones of their civility : access to food. It struck me that the U.S. could well lose it’s own Krabby Patty formula , economic dominance in the world , by design , and I fully anticipate the denizens of this locale to mirror the frenzied and predictable insanity of the residents of Bikini Bottom.The movie is called Sponge Out of Water.

    36. USA #1 Freedumb says:

      America’s very best Zionist friend:

      “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away.”

      — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, 2002

    37. Andy says:

      Having lived through a major earthquake i commend you on your suggestions. I encourage everyone who can to keep at lest two jerricans of gas in the garage, as gas stations were emptied of fuel for over 100 miles around. Plenty of water and a couple of weeks food in the house. Your call, but I have seen supermarket shelves empty, pretty scary.

    38. Satori says:

      West Coast of North America to be Slammed by 2016 with 80% As Much Fukushima Radiation As Japan

      ht tp://www.prisonplanet.com/west-coast-of-north-america-to-be-slammed-by-2016-with-80-as-much-fukushima-radiation-as-japan.html

      what have we done to this planet?
      what have we done?
      what have we done???

    39. Frank Thoughts says:

      One of the most common mistakes people make is to place all their preps in their home, the place at which they are not there for at least 8 hours a day. What do you do if a disaster hits while you are at work, which for some can be very far away?

      One principle is to never be a long-distance commuter. If you cannot walk home in an hour or so, then do not choose that place for work. Disasters are bad enough but imagine having to walk for 8 hours or more to get home?

      Assume communications will go down or be blocked. During the London bombings, they shut down mobile phones and the Internet in the immediate vicinity. You will need to communicate in other ways and have pre-made rendezvous points and action plans.

      Have a staged action plan: depending on the severity of the disaster, this will include rendezvous at home; if that is in a bad way, then get ready to bug out, including leaving the city. Have your resources in different places: bank accounts in other countries with cash in them. If you have to leave your country, you have enough cash somewhere else to get started again. Also have lots of contacts in different countries. You can then rock-up and crash at their place or get assistance from them in the first weeks after a disaster. The key thing is to do the preparations now and to take on board all the different scenarios. As with life, your first plans will probably fail and you will need back-up plans and lots of options. More options the better.

      Know who to trust: unfortunately, modern societies have large segments of people who cannot be trusted. These are the sorts of individuals who will see your weakness and mug you or try and kill you. During recent riots, people who were displaced by arson and looting found themselves walking into gangs of youths looking to mug, rape and have fun violently attacking people. You could literally be going from the frying pan into the fire.

    40. USA #1 Freedumb says:

      The Story Behind the McKinney Pool Party

      The other side of the Story Behind the McKinney Pool Party.

      Short version: A woman , Tatiana Rhodes, who works at an event promoter/party planner and who is a resident of Craig Ranch’s community, organized a party, hired a DJ and even had a bouncey castle. She promoted the event through facebook, twitter and fliers and pretty much gave the impression it was a pool party. She did not contact the Craig Ranch’s Board of Directors who managed the pool and nearby park, did not follow the policy and violated their regulations. Craig Ranch says pool parties have to be restricted to 20 people and a damage deposit and rental fee are charged.

      When hundreds of teenagers started arriving and realized they couldn’t go into the pool, they started jumping over the fence. Of course, this led to heated words between residents who told them to get out and party goers who insisted they had a right to the pool. Tatiana at one point assaulted a female resident who was at the pool.

      The frustrated party goers having been told to leave the pool area, started intimidating the residents and doing petty acts of vandalism. That is why the police were called. The confrontations were turning into a brawl or a riot or whatever you want to call it.

      Tatiana Rhodes is known as KeefCakes on Twitter.

      The woman who organized the event in McKinney, Texas is 20 year old Tatiana Rhodes. She is party promoter. She had been planning and promoting the party for a full month to take place at Craig Ranch, McKinney Texas.

      …cont.

    41. aljamo says:

      Actually any place in America is not safe from calamity. Forget nature, the democraps and republicscums are the biggest threat to humanity. North Florida is probably the best place in this state because it is less populated. As far as hurricanes, I’ve lived here my entire life in the Tampa Bay area and none have come here with a direct hit. I’d like to see it though, a cat 5 or stronger, wipe out all the buildup on the beaches that block access to the peons. Jeb, rubio and shillary suck, but so do the other fascists, all of them.

      • Archivist says:

        So you would like a Category 5 hurricane to hit your home? You just ain’t right.

        Tampa Bay is just lucky it hasn’t been hit with a major hurricane since 1921, but there have been hurricanes in northern Florida since then.

        Do you remember Donna in 1960? I do. After crossing northern Florida from the Gulf to the Atlantic, it came up to NC. Electricity was out at my house for a week, and the winds tore some of the tin roofing from our house.

        Do you remember Charlie in 2004? That one went through northern Florida and was the strongest hurricane to hit the US since Andrew.

        Remember than even a Category 1 hurricane can throw out tornadoes that can flatten your house. That’s the only part of a hurricane I worry about.

      • CommonCents says:

        Being that Florida is the sinkhole capital of the country, I wouldn’t dismiss sinkholes.

    42. I saw the movie and was very disappointed. The idea that a first responder would not only abandon his post in the face of one of worst disasters his city has ever seen, but also steal a search and rescue helicopter in the process (to fly someplace far outside of the helicopters range) is unrealistic. A first year EMT might abandon his post, not a veteran helicopter pilot. Of course that is just the start of the unrealistic nature of the film. I seriously doubt the writer even had the smallest basic knowledge of earthquakes, tsunamis, aviation, engineering… or anything else for that matter. I lived in Los Angeles for 20 years, and if I still lived there, I would find the writer of that film and punch him. (did anyone else wonder how many victims bodies were mutilated by The Rocks full speed powerboat drive through the submerged streets of SF?)

      • Satori says:

        rescue workers will abandon their posts
        I refer you to the Katrina debacle
        NUMEROUS NUMEROUS examples

        and studies have shown that should a pandemic occur
        up to 40% of medical personnel may not show up for
        various reasons

        I leave you with this quote

        “Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government will come to the rescue, will be tragically wrong.” Michael Leavitt, HHS Secretary.

        emphasis on TRAGICALLY wrong

      • Richard Head says:

        jeez Bob, didn’t your parents ever remind you all that stuff on the screen is make believe. It’s just a crappy green screen cgi Hollywood movie bud. Though imo an event as big as I saw in the previews…you can bet your ass 1st responders galore will walk off the job and take all their equipment with them too. Btw fyi, the rock is a former rassler and actor…not a real 1st responder…you know just fyi. Though I’m sure your right, the movie probably sucked like all other crappola that comes out of that God forsaken part of the world these days.

    43. Satori says:

      and lets not forget
      Cali isn’t the only place expecting “the big one”

      Oregon’s Next Huge Earthquake: Not If, But When

      ht tp://www.livescience.com/27958-oregon-earthquake-cascadia-fault.html

      1700 Cascadia earthquake

      h ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake

    44. KY Mom says:

      Bird flu update…

      Worst US bird flu outbreak in history expands to Michigan – 6/9/15

      “Nationwide, more than 46 million chickens and turkeys have been killed by the disease or culled to prevent its spread. Most are in Iowa, the top U.S. egg-producing state, and Minnesota, the nation’s top turkey-producing state.

      Michigan is the 21st state to confirm a case of bird flu since late 2014 and the sixth to detect it only in wild or free-ranging bids, according to the department.

      Fifteen states have found the virus in poultry flocks.”

      “Wild birds are thought to be carriers of the virus, which also can be tracked onto poultry farms by people or trucks that come into contact with contaminated feces. It may also be carried into poultry barns by wind blowing in contaminated dirt or dust.”

      Fox News

    45. Adam Selene says:

      Bring Sensible Shoes:
      It is not just high heels. I saw an interview of a doctor after a hurricane in Florida. He was asked what kind of injuries he was treating. He said the most common were foot cuts and lacerations. Then it showed the people around the first aid tent. The ground was covered with debris, splintered wood, broken glass etc. Almost everyone was wearing flip flops or sandals. I am tempted to say that you can’t fix stupid, but it was probably normalacy bias. Flip flops and sandals are what they usually wore so that is what they continued to wear.

      A note on how people living in danger zones think about disasters. My son lives north of LA. I knew that he would not prepare so I sent him a disaster kit that I made up; backpack, tarp, rope, knife, folding stove, candles, lighter, hand crank radio/flashlight, first aid kit, water filter, canteen, 3 days of food (jerky and dried fruit), along with advice to get a map and plan evacuation routes, and to have cash and water on hand. I asked if he had looked at it. He said not really but he had eaten the jerky and fruit.

    46. KY Mom says:

      Greek Economy In “Doomsday” Tailspin: 59 Businesses, 613 Jobs Lost Each Day, Suppliers Demand Cash Up Front

      “While the Greek government has wasted the past 4 months experiment with game (and hope) theory-based negotiations with the Troika, debating what reforms it should implement, what the budget surplus should be, and how much of a pension and wage haircut the local workforce should undergo just to keep the trickle of European money flowing and “allow” the IMF to repay Greek IMF obligations and the ESM to repay the ECB,
      the Greek economy has slammed into a brick wall.”

      “according to Greece’s retailers association, about 59 businesses close down and some 613 jobs are being lost each day.”

      “It is not just the country’s domestic businesses that are shuttering down at a dramatic pace: even projects once funded by the European Union, such as motorway construction and which served as a source of jobs for many local contractors, have been mothballed.”

      “All of this excludes an even more troubling development in the local banking system which, too, is on the verge of total collapse: as reported last Friday “Bank Run Surges “Massively” As Depositors Yank €700 Million Today Alone.”

      Zerohedge

    47. Houst/Cypress/Katy/shtf says:

      Actually i didn’t learn any tips on this Hollywood job. I did however meet a really hot californian chick in my gym that kept flirting with me all the time over 1 / 1/2 yrs ago. She kept looking my way, so one of my pears told me that i aint gonna get to hit that, because she is too hot to notice me, yet the fliring continued. So i decided to make a move. It turned out that she was wanting to talk to me. I wanted to talk you the whole time she said. Me too.

      Lying my azz off, i tell her oh me too. What she does not know is that i invest in brass not azz.

      So we began to talk a little. This was one bad looking bitch. She started to tell me that she is moving back to California, San Diego and that Houston sucks, and that Texas is not a good place to live. I am a prepper, i told her. Whats a prepper? What she asked me?

      I told her that smart people move from Cali, not too Cali, that she needs to stay here if she wants to survive. Needless to saw, it appears that i don’t know a damn thing that is really going in the world. My recomendation for anyone living in Cali is to get the hell out while you can. You see its not the earth quake that you need to worry about, its the Military, as in the chinese military and the divions of cablist wings of DHS, and other Nato, UN types that is the concern. They have already drained out the all of the underwater aquifiers, used chemtrails to stop rain fall in the regions and eveytime the rain clowns form in the ocean, they use HAARP and then chemtrail the coastline, destroying the crops. Now the chickens. We just got the crap hammered out of us a few weeks ago in Houston, as i watch sun shine and jets spraying my area, then these clowds just formed right up in the sky with lightening flashing while the sun is still out, then bam, rain just started pouring down from 12:00am-4:00am, flooding out the entire city. They are using weather wars to create the conditions to declare martial law. I have decided to not say anyting that the scientist have really been telling me lately. I recomend reading my previous post carefully for he past 2 months. Alot of info is there, its far worst than i have posted. The only war that people respond is by crisis. You either pull your head our of your azz, take action and prepare, or you will pay the price with horrific suffering. I am not worried about Cali.

      I already know the faith of that dumbazz chick i met at the gym. When i asked her about if she is preparing for the engineerd calapse, she looked at me asking me. Whats calapsing? I cut off her off right there on the spot. Good luck to you, i wish you great prosperity. Another hot one bites the dust. Gee no wonder i am single, it dosen’t take a genius to figure that one out. Trust me when i tell you i aint going to Cali. I tell you my shtf-effers, people are so brain dead it not funny. They have no earthyly clue what going in the country and they have been living here the entire time. Women and dating are now a thing of the past, it use to be a good trend, but now its not good time management. I am happy for the preppers who have girlfriends and wifes who support them. Time to prepare for THE SHTF EVENT HORISON. And we are now in ground zero of this event, literally. California rest in peace.

    48. Fleendar the Magnificent says:

      Regardless of what *anyone* says. The MOST IMPORTANT part of your survival kit and plans is your brain. Without it, you’re dead. Without rational thought, you’re dead. If you cannot think and rationalize clearly? You make mistakes. Mistakes in any emergency situation increases odds of injury and death.
      Never lose your brain.

    49. CommonCents says:

      Yeah, I agree Fleendar – once the adrenaline starts flowing it can shut down rational thinking and prevent one from thinking clearly and making the best possible choices/decisions given the dire circumstances.

      But being aware of that is half the battle.

     
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