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    Report: Federal Directive Authorizes Military To Engage Civilians: “To Quell Large-scale, Unexpected Civil Disturbances”

    Mac Slavo
    May 29th, 2014
    SHTFplan.com
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    military-domestic-war

    For years the government has been stockpiling weapons, ammunition, riot gear and armored vehicles. Military personnel have been training in tandem with federal and local police using everything from fully armed helicopters to tanks across America’s major cities in what appears to be a hybridization of  domestic law enforcement agencies. Yet, questions about these shadowy activities have been dismissed by media and public officials as nothing more than training designed to help our country’s fight against terrorism at home and abroad.

    But while the majority of Americans either have no clue this is happening or simply prefer to keep their heads in the sand, a new report from the Washington Times via Infowars suggests otherwise.

    The armaments, training and anti-terror directives are not for use against terrorists in some far-off war zone like Afghanistan, but rather, are designed for American citizens right here at home.

    Yes, you are the target.

    The troubling aspect of the directive outlines presidential authority for the use of military arms and forces, including unarmed drones, in operations against domestic unrest.

    “This appears to be the latest step in the administration’s decision to use force within the United States against its citizens,” said a defense official opposed to the directive.

    Directive No. 3025.18, “Defense Support of Civil Authorities,” was issued Dec. 29, 2010, and states that U.S. commanders “are provided emergency authority under this directive.”

    “Federal military forces shall not be used to quell civil disturbances unless specifically authorized by the president in accordance with applicable law or permitted under emergency authority,” the directive states.

    “In these circumstances, those federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the president is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances” under two conditions.

    The conditions include military support needed “to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order.” A second use is when federal, state and local authorities “are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for federal property or federal governmental functions.”

    “Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

    Military assistance can include loans of arms, ammunition, vessels and aircraft. The directive states clearly that it is for engaging civilians during times of unrest.

    This is not some conspiracy theory or sensationalist view of government operations. This is an actual military directive to be executed under orders from the President of the United States.

    The tens of of billions of dollars spent on ensuring that these directives are successful once implemented indicate, in no uncertain terms, that the government is planning on this actually happening at some point in the future. Otherwise, why spend the time, money and effort?

    This latest revelation shows that the U.S. government has a plan for quelling widespread civil unrest. And, earlier this year Dave Hodges shed light on another important aspect of these directives: what to do with those civilians who aren’t killed when the military rises up against Americans:

    There are two terms which should concern you, namely, Internment and Resettlement (I/R). As if this needs any further elaboration, the two terms simply mean that you will be snatched from your home and sent to a detention camp for an undetermined period of time and treated in a manner which will not be defined by any law.

    The Authorities Practice Targeting Second Amendment Supporters

    There exists solid evidence that our illegitimate government, hijacked by the banksters, possesses a detailed plan to mass arrest Americans and it has moved from the pages of government documents and it is actually being practiced by authorities on American soil.

    You Have Been Targeted for Internment & Resettlement (via The Common Sense Show)

    For the last decade numerous elements within the U.S. government have been war-gaming scenarios that include everything from large scale economic breakdown to massive natural catastrophes in anticipation of a major event that would lead to widespread civil unrest, violence and the disappearance of law and order.

    Following these simulations they have begun implement directives such as the one cited above.

    It’s as if they know it is coming.

    Given the evidence, every individual in America should prepare for the worst and assume it is coming too

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    Author: Mac Slavo
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    Date: May 29th, 2014
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    1. Poon Tang says:

      No surprise at this point. Watch your back.

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      • eppe says:

        Shoot, I try to watch everything, problem is which one do we put our trust into believing???

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        • Turnthekey says:

          Belive in your values and your gut. You know right from wrong.

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          • KY Mom says:

            We know various federal agencies have been buying LOTS of weapons, ammo, and other supplies these past few years. This administration has been militarizing police forces around the country and building a domestic army.

            Meet Directive 3025.18 Granting Obama Authority To Use Military Force Against Civilians

            “A U.S. official said the Obama administration considered but rejected deploying military force under the directive during the recent standoff with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and his armed supporters.

            “Federal action, including the use of federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect the federal property or functions,” the directive states.

            Military assistance can include loans of arms, ammunition, vessels and aircraft. The directive states clearly that it is for engaging civilians during times of unrest.”

            http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-29/meet-directive-302518-granting-obama-authority-use-military-force-against-civilians

            “We’re building a domestic army” – Marine Corps Colonel speaks out
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y4zsgymRxE

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            • John Q. Public says:

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              • slingshot says:

                Glad I’m old.

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                • John Q. Public says:

                  To those paying attention to the recent batch of gun ban lies out of the mouths of FEINSTEIN and BLUMENTHAL, you may have noticed that three decedents were Chinese men who were stabbed.

                  I assume that you all have seen the reports deconstructing the Sandy Hook and LAX “shootings” as completely fictional H✡llyw✡✡d-style productions complete with actors.

                  The gun-ban-security-for-Judaic-oligarchs propaganda is getting more and more cheesy day by day.

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                • MadMarkie says:

                  @ slingshot -

                  2nd that.

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                • Outlaw says:

                  That’s the prob slingshot. A lot of the older patriots and liberty mindsets are dying off. I have thought for a long time that they will just wait us out. No civil war needed. Just look at the current crop of youth.

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                • Gods Creation says:

                  Seems to me directives come from dictators, laws from the dejure legislative branch of the constitutional government.

                  Be sure you follow the Law as opposed to the directives of a dictator. Unless, of course, he directs you to put a bullet in his head.

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                • OldPhart OutIn TheDesert says:

                  Wish I wasn’t old. I’d be fighting. But it is said that geezers make the best snipers. We’re content to sit on our asses for hours…and I can castrate a hummingbird from 500 yards (if I have my glasses and the floaters on my eyes ease off for a bit).

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              • Pissed Off Granny says:

                Your link pretty much covers any/all concerns posters here at shtf are interested in; and written in a concise, informative manner.

                Do you have a special interest in a particular subject about what is destroying America and Americans. Pick one, it is ALL there:

                Aspartame
                GMO Crops
                Corexit
                Vaccines
                False Pandemic Panic
                Pharmaceutical Drugs
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                Aerosol Spraying
                FDA
                Vitamin Supplement Demonization
                EPA
                USDA
                Fukushima
                Food Safety and Modernization Act
                Smart Grid and Smart Meters
                Unending Wars
                Obama Care
                Weather Modification
                Financial Collapse/Depression

                Great article. Lots of subjects that any site depending on advertisers can NEVER cover for fear of loss of advertisers. Truly encapsulating education and an easy read.

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            • Barbara says:

              I’m beginning to wonder if Obama is the reincarnation of Josef Stalin. I hope greater numbers of Americans take off the blinders and begin to explore alternative news sources because they will never become aware of all these things being done on the mainstream media!

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            • Shootit says:

              Just wondering where they get their authority? They work for us. We do not and will not work for them. There is the line!

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              • John W. says:

                Keep telling yourself that. While they are kicking in your door.

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                • Shootit says:

                  It should be an interesting stand off with my steel reinforced doors and jams. Happen to be in construction and put them in myself. They would be better off coming through a window.

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            • John Q. Public says:

              Federal Directive Authorizes Military To Engage Civilians: “To Quell Large-scale, Unexpected JUSTICE

              Clearly these moves, like the laughable gun ban propaganda, have one goal—to prevent an awakened and aggrieved populace from meting out JUSTICE to the banksters, oligarchs, and accomplices for their crimes against humanity.

              Nuremberg 2

              Prosecute and punish the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

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          • Hammerun says:

            Imagine if you will, they get some government agency’s troops that are willing to fire on Americans. Not just Americans but us!
            If they get this far, bitches, games on!! My money’s on the Americans.
            We after a point when they show their faces outside the wire it will be like facing off with the Vietcong, Taliban, and any other inventive insurgent group they have never imagined.

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            • sixpack says:

              KINDA OFF TOPIC:

              Bob Quast from Iowa is running for Congress—I know many on here will ENJOY this video

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gl7xcy8ILU

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              • Mike (cactus) says:

                I can’t believe yah got a thumbs down on that. If not wining in Iowa please run in California. Don’t worry about the 6 month residency rule as we don’t check for qualifications in this state. For those that think all Californians are in la-la land you,d be supprised. Someone kicked the bear in the gonads and is he %$@# ed off.

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            • Grafique says:

              Exactly what urban warfare tactics do you know? How much experience do you have in guerilla warfare? Do you know anything at all except “game on bitches”? How do you intend to repel a squadron of well-armed, well-trained Marines who want very badly to come into your neighborhood? What weapons do you have that will shoot down an Apache helicopter which is hovering over a mile away – which you don’t even know is there, but is watching you up-close with night vision? How do you intend to communicate with like-minded people, get organized, trained, equipped and supplied so that you’re a match for those who are coming after you?

              Everyone who comments on this and other prepper sites is already on the list of potential threats, along with their addresses, phone numbers, family members’ names, places of employment, etc. Where do you think you can go to get away that they don’t already know about? Do you own a single RPG? What plan do you have other than dressing up in camouflage and hiding in the woods near your house? I’d be interested in learning about it. If you have a plan, well and good. If not, then talking about “insurgent groups” is a little premature.

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              • Hammerun says:

                Posse Comitatus Act, June 18, 1878
                I don’t believe we will EVER see Marines, Army or Air Force killing Americans on American soil.
                That said, what will?
                But then again, how many ex marines, ex solders and ex Air Force are out there that know and remember their training as well as know an opponents tactics? Then let’s speak of numbers, how many verses how many? They don’t want to get this started, it will be long and bloody.

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              • Old Southern Man says:

                We will prevail no matter what our enemy uses against us. We are legion, we will never forget, we will never stop.

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              • ColdWarRelic says:

                What you say holds a lot of truth.

                Welcome to History Repeating Itself!

                I am completely speechless! I keep expecting Rod Steiger to come out and say “Welcome to the Twilight Zone!

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              • Brent H says:

                It may be easy for the Federal government to employ the military to suppress a revolt in a limited geographic area. It is entirely another matter to successfully maintain an occupation force over a widespread area, when average citizens are armed with rifles, shotguns, and even handguns.

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                • The Feds will not give you your “dream” chance at a shooting war or second American revolution.

                  They will shutdown ammo/gun manufacturers, seize food/water distribution, shut down gas/electricity/communications to any non-compliant areas.

                  Then after a long wait they will come for you.
                  At least that’s what I would do.

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              • Chip says:

                how do you think they have enough “employees” to overrun 100 million American gun owners? if it comes to this then ‘game on’ is appropriate response. die standing rather than die on my knees….

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                • durango kidd says:

                  Tucson is already under de facto martial law as the City Council has authorized the Davis-Monthan Air Force Commander to use all means necessary to protect the Air Base in the event of an emergency;

                  Or if I get my hands on one of those A-10′s. :-)

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                • twodog says:

                  Wait a minute, the Davis-Monthan AFB Commander gets his authorization to protect his installation in the event of an emergency from the Tuscon City Council?

                  You’re kidding, right?

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              • Hunter says:

                Grafi-Q-

                Let the “background noise” don their camouflage & hide & snipe, in all likelihood the gunships & the troopers will zero in on them…

                …intelligent operators will focus on the “logistics train/tail” of the regime.

                If the I.R.A. (a mere +200 fighters at its peak) in Ireland, were able to stalemate the entire British Army for decades…

                ..methinks, dedicated/smart Americans are capable of tossing a major “cluster-fuck” unto our homegrown regime’s satanic NWO endeavors!

                ——————————————————-

                BTW….

                …you might want to stay on your porch when then balloon goes up…you’ll safer that way!

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                • Hunter says:

                  ***addendum to above***

                  —(copy/paste)—

                  “…intelligent operators will focus on the “logistics train/tail” of the regime.”

                  ..FYI*

                  * Its called “resource denial”…//aka> ..starving the beast!

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                • Grafique says:

                  I’m not doubting your desire, just your experience. I don’t think you have what it takes to overcome an offensive by US troops, that’s all.
                  Like I said above, if you have a plan, I’m very interested in hearing it. BTW, “tossing a major “cluster-fuck”” doesn’t constitute a plan.

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                • Hammerun says:

                  Classic Sun Tzu isn’t it?

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                • Survival Skvez says:

                  The British army had its hands tied (ironically mostly by US influences). That is not what we’re seeing the US position itself for. Most of you don’t live in neighbourhoods where you have the total support of every single neighbour.

                  If the authorities move against you they won’t announce themselves and approach from far away giving your time to lock&load or slip away, they will pick you off the street on the way home from work or your house will explode one night while you’re asleep in it.

                  That’s not the same thing the IRA faced, don’t delude yourself.

                  You can claim you’re going to target the logistics train but do you have a list of names, faces and addresses for these people? They sure have a list of you and yours. It’ll be asymmetric warfare but they will hold all the high cards.

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                • Notwithstanding Grafique’s fear-mongering psyop “wisdom,” in the 20th and 21st centuries mighty armies have REPEATEDLY FAILED in their efforts to subdue smart and determined guerrilla movements.

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              • John W. says:

                Nothing like painting a big bulls eye on ones self. Unless of course it is just a troll trying to get others to incriminate themselves. Our only hope is that the military refuses to play. A bunch of fat stupid couch potato key board commandos have no chance against regular troops.

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              • arizona dude says:

                Mr. Graphique Do you really think that the public would tolerate a major offensive in an urban area. You must be watching tooo many war movies. Someone on this site once suggested drones attcking someones house. BS just the kind of thing that would turn everyone against the gov and the military. It didn’t work in Viet Nam and it wouldn’t work here. It hasn’t worked anywhere except in WW2 germany where we were fighting a real enemy. Anyone who fires on an american citizen is a coward and will ultimately lose the fight.

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                • Grafique says:

                  Actually, I do think the American public would tolerate the military in its streets. IMO, the American public is blind and deceived. Look who it votes for.
                  As for my comments here, I doubt that Hunter – or anyone else who posts here – has the ability to remove the US military from his streets.
                  Desire is one thing, ability is another.

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              • Night Breaker says:

                Grafique ,
                There are many of us out here with the skill and the will , never underestimate your opposition ,
                A lot of return GWOT veterans have much experience in MOUT ( MILITARY OPERATIONS URBAN TERRANE) and small uniy tactics. OPFOR will not be facing rabble if it comes down to this , every one will know when the festivities start.
                The key is intelligence and proper preparation. Right now as we speak FREEFOR is training people in small unit Tactics , many retired operators are offering training most have verifiable qualifications some have SPECWAR experience and have knowledge from training indigenous forces. True technology will be on the side of OPFOR but ALL TECHNOLOGY can be countermeasured. Apache’s do not functiion efficiently in bad weather and they have to have a forward base of operations , on the ground they can be damaged by a 2 man Target Acquistion team armed with a .50 cal barret by putting a round into the engine housing or intakes . Forward operating bases have to resupplied and supply lines are vulnerable . FLIR can be countermeasured by themal blankets and cover. Communication nets and protocols are being created by FREEFOR , the proliferation of small portable ham radios ensures that this can be implemented in an organized manor when the time comes that information will be available to civilian self defense units.
                I would not count on the majority of the military supporting the regime in what essentially be categorized as WAR CRIMES against a civilian population. The Dear leader does not have as much support as he thinks he does.
                As being on a list of potential threats you are in good company this is where we can prevent all the above from being necessary safety in in numbers let them see what they will face they do not have the man power to detain at least 180 million individuals or even have of the that , consider once this begins there is no going back it’s all or nothing. The second they implement hostile operations they have lost and no longer hold the moral high ground .
                Develop your contacts now organize like minded people with the same values ( PRO LIFE AND LIBERTY ) the REGIME Is nothing more than an authoritarian death cult that exists only to enrich itself with out remorse or rules, it is absolutely the blackest evil to exist in corporeal form in recent times , it exists to destroy and enslave . It all boils down to HEARTS and MINDS FREEFOR must provide what the regime cannot , SECURITY in a time of challenges . LIBERTY has a price , it’s cost is eternal vigilance , time is not on the regimes side.
                What we may experience will be stunning I have faith in the founding fathers plans we will see the genius of what they have given us in what will be a time of woes and triumphs .

                PREPARE FORM TEAMS TRAIN

                RESIST

                NO MATTER WHAT

                ANYWAY YOU CAN

                Semper Fi 8541.

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              • Gregory8 says:

                Gragique:Do you mean that the they are going to do to us what they did in Afghanistan?

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              • slingshot says:

                Grafique.

                Agree lots of people going to have their ass shot up. We might do well against looters and gangs but as it stands now with cohesion of what ever force we can muster.
                Hmmmmmmmm?

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              • Some good men are teaching important skills so that we are not HARVESTED by the Zionist banksters’ body snatchers.

                Start with Max Velocity:

                http://www.maxvelocitytactical.com

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              • sixpack says:

                Well, Grafique, most people on here, are smart enough NOT TO ANNOUNCE THEIR PLANS (if they had any) ON THE FUCKING INTERNET. Hell, why not just email homeland security with the details, it would cut out the middlemen. What kind of idiot know-it-all would suggest such a thing?

                Nobody has to prove anything to you.

                Nobody has to meet your approval.

                What we may/may not know is none of your business.

                What we may/may not have is none of your business.

                We already know we’re on a list somewhere.

                WE DON’T NEED ANOTHER DAMN KNOW-IT-ALL…

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                • Grafique says:

                  Nor do I have to meet your approval, sixpack.
                  So basically what you’re saying is that the people you like can comment here, but the people you don’t like should shut the hell up, right? That reminds me of someone else’s tactics – oh yeah, Obama. Apparently you two have a lot in common.

                  If you’d actually think about what I said, instead of giving a knee-jerk reaction, you’d see that it made plenty of sense. Is it too much to ask you to think?

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                • Grafique says:

                  By the way, I seriously doubt that JQP or Hammerun actually have any plan at all besides blaming the Chosen People of God for their own failings, then hiding in the woods.

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                • sixpack says:

                  What’s the matter Grafique, you don’t like being ATTACKED? Then perhaps YOU should stop attacking people.

                  I notice that you FAILED to even address the biggest concern — OPSEC.

                  And don’t you dare compare me to that nigger in the white house, you sorry son of a bitch.

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                • Grafique says:

                  sixpack,
                  If you’re going to throw around words like “opsec”, then you must have some “op”. I seriously doubt that you have any “op” capable of defeating even a squad of US Marines. Judging by your hateful reactions, I’d say that that’s a truth you can’t face.

                  The rest of your post only confirms what I thought about you – you’re an ignorant racist. I despise Obama’s policies probably more than you, but I hold my personal opinions in subjection to the Word of God.
                  Nowhere in the Bible do I see Jesus using the word “nigger”.

                  If you consider yourself a Christian, you’d better think about how you’re making Jesus and the Church look to the world.

                  Are we done here, or do you want to continue trying to justify hateful ignorance?

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                • sixpack says:

                  No Graftique, you still haven’t responded to my post. In my original post (Comment ID: 3120467), the gist of my comment was that most wise people don’t post sensitive info on the internet, so you’d have literally no way to know exactly what people know, or what they can do. My intent was to point out that you were apparently drawing conclusions about other people that you could have no information to support, and that they don’t have anything to prove to anyone.

                  Your response (Comment ID: 3120630) to that was “Nor do I have to meet your approval, sixpack”, and “but the people you don’t like should shut the hell up”. You basically danced around the original comment, trying to make ME feel like I was interfering with your right to comment. You still didn’t respond to the subject of my comment.

                  But you said: “That reminds me of someone else’s tactics – oh yeah, Obama. Apparently you two have a lot in common.” THAT WAS UNCALLED FOR.

                  In my comment (Comment ID: 3120688) I pointed it out, again, that the subject of my original comment was the stupidity of posting sensitive info on the internet.

                  Your comment (Comment ID: 3121048) you again avoid the question of smart people posting their plans online, but you managed to tell me what you think about ME, personally. Personally, You speak about “free speech”, BUT you call me hatefully ignorant for using the word nigger, even throwing the Bible in the mix.

                  I hate to point this out to you, but obama is not a Christian, and all “niggers” are not necessarily black….but thanks for doing the obamabot thing and pulling the race card anyway, even if it was back-to-back with your “free speech” blurb.

                  So no, we’re not “done”, because you willy-nillied around and did everything BUT answer the original question—why would any smart person put their most sensitive plans on the internet, just to prove to strangers that they might know what they’re doing?

                  Maybe this time you can do it without the personal insults…or can you?

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              • silverstate says:

                Well……….Bunkerville worked fine.

                But to my point….as you are the expert…. you must know that in a fire fight, or any war for that matter, time and time again well equipped, well trained forces have been defeated, it’s in many history books, from our beginnings.

                Things happen, everything gets weird in war, time stands still, time moves fast, it boggles the human mind…hence so many mental problems with soldiers….you just can not say that because someone has more and bigger guns than you…you lose…you are a TROLL/Shill…as you have obviously never been in a life or death situation, you would know this.

                So go back to comrade hopium and his douche bag AG, and place yer pecker in their ass holes.

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              • Libertarianmajority says:

                That applies to you too, Grafique. Why do you want to know what plans others have? Are you government? Reliance on “intelligence” will be the defeat of those who oppose individual liberty from the government of others.

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              • franzpick says:

                ‘What plan do you have other than dressing up in camouflage’?

                Maybe it should be called the ‘Bundy Plan’, where 200 armed citizens face down Barry’s militarized BLM goon squad, forcing them into a moonwalk retreat before a live worldwide audience. Sorry you missed it.

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          • Mountain Trekker says:

            I saw on the local news KCWY13 out of Casper Wyoming after NBC’s Brian Williams interview where they did a survey on Edward Snowden, whether he was a Traitor or a Patriot, and 73% of Casper viewers said he was a Patriot. It seems Speaker of the House John Boehner labeled him a Traitor. As far as I’m concerned Snowden is a Hero and Boehner is a Traitor. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

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        • Iowa says:

          Watchman, Keep your eye on Jesus. It’s a narrow path paved with Grace.

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          • The Stig's American Cousin says:

            Glad I live in the middle of nowhere. It is hard to quell a disturbance when there is no one around to disturb anything.

            Yeah, maybe they will be disturbed by little old me.

            Shit….

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            • RandomTangent1957 says:

              ” the disappearance of Law & order”……
              Well hell…..Law started being disappeared Jan 20th, 2009 ! The order part has been crumbling a little bit every day. It is now every morning that I Lear of gangs of thugs robbing banks, restaurants , convenience stores, & the average homeowner. It used to be once a month or so….but now there are several every night. I don’t remember hearing about folks running over their boyfriend….& driving down the road intoxicated….& totally naked….& driving their car onto the bayou…..trying to drown the infant that is in the car with them….?? . I’m sure that Jessie Jackson, & Quannel X would find a way to turn this into some sort of race bating BS. Now a days you have to speak in code…cause you can’t say the “N” word….even if it is obviously warranted…
              So I have gone to using the phrase “Effing Canadians! ” No one seems to care what you have to say about Canadians…….so I can say what I think…..& all my friends, family, co-workers, & neighbors know exactly what I’m talking about. Heck…..I have even been able to use that phrase while in line at the Wally World…with them right in front of me…..& they have no idea….LOL ! I have found it quite liberating. You should try it. Just might keep you from having that heart attack
              That is coming from Being too stressed, from having the PC police constantly telling you that YOU have to be more tolerant …..meanwhile you are constantly under attack from all of the demented sickos that seem to be directing things these days . Give it a try. You just might last until the game commission calls open season .
              Standing by in Montgomery County Texas

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              • the renegade braveheart says:

                RT 1957, I understand your frustration but I don’t even follow what any PC cops say; they can get f#$%ed are far as I’m concerned. We all know something deadly serious is coming. We know the feds will eventually declare war against us and try to destroy us. well, I believe they will lose. they don’t have the numbers, even with foreign troops , to take on 100,000,000 gun owners, including plenty of veterans who will stand with us. Even the “civilian national security force” monkeyboy has spoken of won’t have a chance. They’ll be so doped up they couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. If they come to me, I’ll take them out of this world.

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                • Kevin2 says:

                  They inoculate their people and then spray you with bacteria from a drone at night. Remember those small pox blankets given to the Indians? The “savages” didn’t do that but rather “civilized people” did that. I think it was the great “hero” General Sherman but I may be mistaken.

                  Fight the above with a custom 1911, AR platform gun and whatever else you may have handy.

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            • lonelonemum says:

              Isn’t internment & resettlement what happened to the American Indians once you cut thru the PC semantics?

              If so then the story I tell my son every year when we plant our “Trail of Tears” beans should be retold to every American prepper’s child. (I’m including Canada here).

              We need to share more stories about the civil unrest across Europe – as this is culturally closer to both the UK and the US than what’s been happening in the sandbox. I was so shocked the other day to hear of riots in Belgium – anyone who has been there will understand why, normally they make watching grass grow look exciting.

              We also need to share more Veteran stories – those of how the goat herders outwitted western technology with access to far fewer resources than most of us have in the recycling the day AFTER the bin men have been. Increasingly more and more I think we are going to need their low tech smarts, solutions and adaptability.

              On that note – has anyone made one of these – a pot within a pot fridge

              a zero electricity way of keeping food cool?

              http://practicalaction.org/zeer-pot-fridge

              It looks to me like a really smart way of keeping items like dairy and fresh meat from spoiling for a few days in a long term grid-down situation so I’m gonna have a go at manufacturing one next week. In an emergency I wonder if polystyrene packaging boxes would work as well as clay?

              Food hygiene will become even more important in an emergency, as nasty though it sounds to say it out loud, an attack of the squits could kill without access to modern medical facilities. This is especially true of the elderly and very young in a group. I personally wanna go out fighting not like that.

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              • Anonymous says:

                Lonelone,
                Interment and resettlement is also what they did to Japanese citizens during WWII. It could happen now to gun owners, or Christians, or children who haven’t been vaccinated.

                You are right about food hygiene. People will die of that sooner than starvation.

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              • sixpack says:

                lonelonemum, I tried the styrofoam alternate and it did not work for me. I’m told it has something to do with the moisture condensation and the clay in the pots.

                Apparently, you can’t use clay pots that have been glazed inside and out either, but I haven’t tried that yet so I don’t know for sure.

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          • Rodster says:

            Yes we have become the evildoers according to GWB.

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            • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

              And the Criminal Supreme Court Refuses to debate Or even take up the case of the legitimacy of NDAA. 33% of the US Supreme Court consists of Jews. But the Jewish Population in the US is only about 2%. Pay Attention People, it the same faction that is Anti-Gun. You see, an Armed American Populace is their last hurdle to crush to dominate America. They already conned the US Military to fight their illegal wars, whats stopping them from crushing the American people.

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              • Barn Cat says:

                Who wudda thunk that some people blame the Jews for everything. Satan is definitely at work in those people.

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                • Leverage says:

                  Barn Cat, the Bible warned about those who claim that the Church has replaced Israel. Jesus said, “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
                  Blasphemers will be dealt with harshly

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                • Them Guys says:

                  The most eminent scholars and historians of Jewry agree that most Ashkenazi Jews come from the Khazars. According to The Jewish Encyclopedia, (Vol. V, (1904), p 41), the Khazars are “A people of Turkish origin whose life and history are interwoven with the very beginnings of the history of the Jews in Russia . . . Historical evidence points to the region of the Urals as the home of the Chazars”.

                  Historian H.G. Wells states, “. . . the Idumeans (Edomites) were . . . made Jews, . . . and a Turkish people (Khazars) were mainly Jews in South Russia . . . The main part of Jewry never was in Judea and had never come out of Judea” (The Outline of History, 3rd Edition., p 494). According to the Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. IV, (1905), p 3), the original stock of the Khazars came from the land of Edom.

                  The Jewish Encyclopedia tells us that “Edom is modern Jewry”. This witness from the 1905 edition records the connection between modern-day Jews and the race of Edom: “Some anthropologists are inclined to associate the racial origins of the Jews, not with the Semites, whose language they adopted, but with the Armenians and Hittites of Mesopotamia, whose broad skulls and curved noses they appear to have inherited”

                  Jewish Encyclopedia,(1905) Volume X,page, 248…

                  Although called “Jews”, an abbreviation for “Judeans”, the people were a hybrid of Canaanites, Babylonians, Edomites, Hittites, Judahites, etc., They migrated to other lands over the centuries, but they retained their identity as “Jews”, or so-called Judahites, and brought with them the religion of Babylon. These racially mixed “Jews” were among the 50,000 who returned to Jerusalem (Ezra 2:62; Nehemiah 7:64; 13:3).

                  Let us recognize that the original meaning of the word “Jew” did not signify a race of people, or a religion. It signified ALL who lived in a geographic area called Judea, except for the Romans. In the days of Jesus, it is probably true that most of the residents of Jerusalem were Edomites, for with the exception of Judas, Jesus chose His disciples from Galilee (Acts 2:7). Jesus returned to the Capitol to fulfill the prophecy that His enemies, the Canaanite Jews, would crucify Him.

                  The words “Jew” and “Judean” had only a geographic import until after the death and resurrection of Jesus. The only people who held the name “Jew” were those who rejected Jesus Christ, and whose descendants still do.

                  Intermarriage with Canaanites, Edomites and Hittites was forbidden by the Almighty. It constitutes “genocide”, a word coined by self-styled Polish Jew, Raphael Lemkin, meaning “the extermination of an entire race”. Scripture identifies the Canaanites, Hittites and Hivites as among the descendants of Cain who was Serpent seed, and “cherem”. Esau married two Serpent seed women and one Ishmaelite wife. Their children, the Edomites, intermarried with the Horites, Amalakites and other Serpent seed peoples (Genesis 26:34; 27:46; 28:9; 36:3, 19-21; Numbers 24:7; I Samuel 15:8-9, 20, 32-33; Esther 3:1; Josephus 11.20).

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              • sixpack says:

                You can thank the NSA for that, they have enough blackmail material on every member of the SCOTUS, we’ll never get a constitutional decision from them.

                All this time, it never was US, the commoners that the NSA was interested in—we were just the distraction, while they gathered the useful info on people in key positions.

                If the shoe was on MY foot, tactically, it’s what I would’ve done…targeted the decision-makers.

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                • SonOfSam says:

                  I am a man
                  I am a citizen
                  I WILL NOT BE BULLIED

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                • Them Guys says:

                  Barn Cat and Leverage: heres what those Fake Imposter jews as Christ called them when it Was Pharisee Rabbis AND Every jew follower of theirs when he called them Serphants of Their father Satan etc….Leagles spew is nonsense. “And Then Answered He, the Jews…” does that sound like Jews Christ spoke to? Or some ridiculous idea it means the church christians?

                  HERES what Their TALMUDIC Religion Teaches and They Believe in about You a christian! and also about Non christian gentile Goyims…in other words what talmudic jews believe in regards ALL Non jews aka goys.

                  It is allowed to cheat a gentile and take usury of him (Baba Mezia 61a, Abhodah Zarah 54a).

                  The goyim [Christians] are regarded as unclean (Schabbath 145b, Abhodah Zarah 22b).

                  It is not allowed to rob a brother Jew, but to rob a gentile is allowed (Baba Mezia 61a; Sanhedrin 57a).

                  The goyim are not like men but are as animals (Kerithuth 6b). The seed of a goy is worth the same as that of a beast (Kethuboth 3b; Baba Mecia 114, 6).

                  A Jew must not enter the home of a Christian (Gittin 62a).

                  The goyim are not to be cured or helped when sick, even for money (Abodah Zarah 27b; Iore Dea 158, 1).

                  It is permitted to deceive a goy (Babha Kama 113b). Jews must try to deceive Christians (Zohar I, 160a).

                  A Jew may lie and perjure himself to condemn a Christian (Babha Kama 113a-113b).

                  A Jew shall not do injury to other Jews, but the law does not prohibit injury to a goy (Mishna Sanhedryn 57).

                  Those who do good to the Christian . . . will not rise from the dead (Zohar I, 25b).

                  All the festivals of the followers of Jesus are forbidden, and we must conduct ourselves towards them as we would towards idolaters (Abodah Zarah 2a, 78c).

                  Do not save a goy in danger of death (Hilkkoth Akum, XX, 1).

                  When a Jew and a goy come to court, you must absolve the Jew and take his side as far as possible according to Jewish law. If, however, the Jew can be absolved according to gentile law, absolve him (Babha Kama 113a).

                  A Jew may keep anything he finds belonging to the Akum [Christian], to return it is a sin (Choschem Ham 266, 1).

                  The Talmud clearly represents an underlying Jewish object of hatred towards Christians. It teaches Jews to be against the “goyim” in every aspect of life, while working to destroy the Christians’ religion and undermining their culture and society.

                  Thou shalt surely kill him (Gentile). Thou shalt surely smite him with stones that he die (Abodah Zara 4b).

                  For murder, whether of a goy or a Jew by a goy, punishment is incurred; but murder of a goy by a Jew, there is no punishment (Sanhedrin 57a; Abodah Zara 13b).

                  Christians, informers, and apostates may be cast into a pit, and need not be rescued (Abodah Zarah 26b).

                  A goy who studies the Law deserves death (Sanhedrin 39a).

                  It is certain that our [Jews'] captivity will last until the princes of the gentiles are destroyed” (Zohar I, 219b).

                  Even the best of the goyim should be killed (Abodah Zarah 26b, Tosephoth).

                  The Christian birth rate must be diminished materially (Zohar II, 64b).

                  Take the life of the gentile [Christian] and kill them, and you will please God the same as one who offers incense to Him (Sepher Or Israel 117b).

                  Jews are innocent of murder if intent was to kill a Christian (Makkoth 7b).

                  The disciples of Christ are tried in court and executed (Sanhedrin 43a).

                  Barn Cat, a follower of Christ?…READ Below.

                  Those who fear being labeled “Anti-Semitic” will never be effective in exposing the root of the problem. No such fear existed in Jesus Christ who boldly spoke against the Talmudic Pharisees face-to-face in public meetings. He specifically pointed-out their characteristics, calling them “hypocrits” and “a generation of vipers”, “full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness”, “blind guides”, “a wicked and adulterous generation”, “full of iniquity”, “serpents”, murderers”, and “of their father the Devil”.

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                • PKLauLau says:

                  Them Guys: Your argument, as usual is weak. Yes, the Talmud is bad. Yes, some Jews follow the Talmud.

                  Following your logic….some people who live in America follow satan. Therefore ALL AMERICANS follow satan. Get a grip.

                  PKLL

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              • SonOfSam says:

                I am a man
                I am a citizen
                I WILL NOT BE BULLIED

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                • Anonymous says:

                  I AM A FEMALE.
                  I AM A CITIZEN.
                  I WILL NOT BE BULLIED… BY TPTB OR ANY MAN..OR WHATEVER.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  PKLL Thats akin to saying “Yes while there are a billion catholics globally, BUT just a small FEW believe that the Pope is the Head hocnho of it all”!!

                  Judaism IS Zionism IS Talmudism Period. EVERY Rabbi, Jew historians galore et al have admited to that as I have posted for proof.

                  While You as well as barn cat, grafique and others continue to reside in your Own small world of Denial of facts and truth as it don’t “Fit” Your John Hageeite end times senario views.

                  I Predict when the usa sees a fullfillment of that bible verse that sates “the Time will come, when THEY shall KILL You(True christians) and They will believe they are doing a SERVICE to God by Killing You off”

                  “whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service” (John 16:2)….Wow! thats what Talmudics believe when they “Kill even the best of the Goyim gentiles”..the Same talmudics 50 million jewdeo-christians say can do NO wrongs! and defend all jews do even when it IS evil wrongs!(see palestinian terror BY IDF jews against innocent small kiddies etc and against Christians In palestine also!).

                  That it is going to be staffed, done by and fullfilled BY the “christians” who Fall for Falsehoods as Taught By John Hagee type pastors whos main teachings is You are a “Jewdeo-Christian” and a “zionist Christian”. and that the jews and zios can Do NO wrong due to being so special andf chozens in Gods eyes…

                  Which I have posted biblical verse proof that is a False teaching for Todays world. Like I stated prior many times, when that day arrives its going to be…

                  Millions of such Brainwashed “jewdeo christians” with Shabozz Goyims(goys who do jews bidding etc) Leading them, Shabozz goys such as hagee, that disgusting crowd of TV-TBN clowns poseing as pastors, whos Own “Bosses” will be Zionist Pharisee rabbis and Talmudic jews, and their Job-#1 will be to find and KILL off True christians.

                  Because these frauds and shabozz goy pastors along with millions of deranged deluded foolsih folks also called “christians” who Hate Truth as spoken by True Christ followers who Do practice as Christ commands that one learn and SPEAK truth, which definatly Includes doing As He did IE: Speak Out and expose these type issues such as Talmudic hatred of christianity and Christ etc.

                  About the ONLY folks Today that Do speak or write such Truth Is Real Christ Filled christians..Who the bible in REV book states are going to be Killed off for rejecting LIES, Rejecting that 666 Mark, and rejecting False Pastors and their megga churches filled with what soon will become americas worst Nightmare!

                  An Deranged Maddend ARMY of 50 Million Jewdeowhackoziochristians, who believe to Kill folks the jews and zio rabbis do not like and hate is to do a great service To God.

                  Kinda like we see today many usa Military falling for eh…Those many who Join the usa army or other branch of service and joyfully Kill ANYBODY they get told to kill..

                  And to Date at least since 9/11 2001, that just happens to be to go Kill everybody jews and “israel state” Hates.

                  Well You fools best come to Grip the true issues at hand, since at the very TOP of Talmudics List to whos hated Most?…It IS Whitey Christians that TOPS their Long List of hated Goyims.

                  And as history past and present has well Proven, who do these nefarious evil Talmudic jews Use as their “armys of Hitmen”?…To Kill off whoebver they so badly hate?…Why, thats proven to Be OTHER whiteys!

                  SEE: Jew fomented WWI & WWII, also see, Russian revolution, and soon to come the next great usa kill off when as many as 50 million delusional jew/israel worshippers that are Confusing Edomites as jews(theres that REV synagouge of satan stuff, Grafique you fool) and Will Obey pastors like hagee et al when told to Kill everyone that rejects that jews are “special”.

                  Just LOOK at Which Orgs hagee and his types, and they number a hundred thousand preachers or more! Are conected with…ADL-SPLC-AJC-AIPAC-CUFI-and 300 More subversive jew orgs across the usa. Go ahead…research those orgs True Goals, see how many good plans they have for christians or even atheists “Goyims”(cattle to jews).

                  But none of you will do such research due to you all FEAR finding out I am correct, which means…What next eh?

                  I will Tell you whats next…You Then must Quit such false “churches” and fraud pastors, and quit your many false ideas or beliefs that somehow when the bible says God is NOT a respector of Persons, that exempts jews!

                  Or when Christ says NONE can come to the father In heaven..BUT Through ME, that the word “NONE” means ALL peoples…Except of course for jews…be they Talmudics, the vast Majority of them, or even that small tiny bunch who supposedly obey “Torrah” as in old testement books by moses Only…BUT when asked “What about the Talmud books?”

                  They too do NOT hesitate to tell folks the Talmud stands head and shoulders ABOVE all Books, the entire old testement Bible books, the new testement which jews reject totally, and the Talmud IS the highest law in the entire known universe bar none.

                  They cannot deny it, as Judaism IS talmudism period.

                  And as John Q Public, Me and others has posted prior, based upon Many Quoted statements BY the worlds and state of israels TOP head Honcho Pharisee Rabbis, their talmud originates at BABYLON when jews were taken captive to there…That Talmud IS Phariseeisim, and Is Judasim.

                  And what another jew “coincidence” folks!

                  What does the book of Revelation Call that End times orginization that will be the ANTICHRIST System etc?

                  “MYSTERY BABYLON!!!” Hmmmmm…Now just what Group/religion Has in its main title of their top Holy Books the name of babylon?

                  Gee PKLL, Barn cat, Grafique…That answer IS jews’ Talmud!

                  Babylonian Talmud=Antichrist! SEE Revelation book.

                  “mystery babylon” well tis NO mystery any Longer folks!

                  Thanks to Internet abilities everybody can Now learn who and what will be that antichrist system soon eh.

                  Mystery-BABYLON or is it, BABYLONIAN Talmud? or is it BOTH!!!!!!…BINGO! one and Same!

                  With 50 Million braindead delusional Hageeites and TBN swindler led “Armys” of “jewdeo-christians” ready to KILL real trye body of Christ Christains that will Never accept such phony antichrist jewish BS.

                  “time shall come when they believe they do God a service by Killing You!”…One 10 minit session watching ANY and ALL TBN preacher shows daily is certain to convince most folks of their lunatic Slavish defense and support of all issues jewish or state of israel no matter what wrongs are done by both.

                  Remember reading my prdictions here…You are likly to experience it soon…Only which group You be in then eh?

                  The group of Killer Shabozz goyim, killing for jews and the father of them, Satan per christs own words?

                  Or Real christians hunted down and killed same as jews did back in and ever since 33 ad era?

                  There wont be no neutral ground folks..TWO sides to pick from only…Choose wizely weedhoppah!

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              • John W. says:

                Always the Jews with you morons.

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            • Prepared Pastor says:

              There aren’t going to be any large-scale disturbances here because there aren’t enough people to have one. Anyone who lives where that might happen needs to preposition supplies where it won’t even if that means just burying a few plastic barrels.

              The stake that sticks out gets hammered down. – Japanese Proverb.

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              • oldwhatshisname says:

                Well, if the EBT system shuts down, local and state ELOs will scream for help to control the animals; whereby Obumer sends in the storm troopers.

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                • sixpack says:

                  Good. They’ll be too busy dodging bricks and burning dumpsters, to mess with us for a while.

                  Let’s hope the zombies keep them real busy, allowing us a chance to “adjust”.

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                • catena says:

                  i look for the EBT crash around July, you may want want to be driving around on that day, protect you home and family.

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                • MXLord327 says:

                  And the 0bama media will still blame it on us “white folks.”

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            • John W. says:

              When did Bush ever say that? He has been gone for almost six years. You must be a Obama lover. Bush did give us the Patriot Act which started this whole mess. Whoever planned 9/11 was a genius. All it took was a bunch of traitors in our govt. a brain dead populace and a corrupt media. If Nixon had the media that Obama has he would still be president.

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            • Them Guys says:

              I read several good articles that totally prove the Myth aka Lie we were told of Smallpox Blankets given to the injuns has been throughly Debunked as a fraud…Same as the many other fraud myths we were taught as truth.

              most germs that cause infectious diseases and sickness only last a short time frame when present on inanimate objects such as a blanket. Like a flu germ on the kitchen counter or sink faucets…Without a Human or warm blooded animal host such germs cannot long thrive nor live.

              America needs a natonal Holliday, MONTH long events similar to “black histiry month” that will be geeked up as a most patriotic thing to do for Every still asleep american citizen, to spend said month doing research and reading and attending gatherings with learned speakers able to present mass debunking events.

              If presented as a holliday of great worth and celebration like black history month has been…Perhaps that would create a collective mass desrie within the peoples of america to Learn the factual Truths through such debunking efforts nationwide eh.

              It is easy to lead people in such a direction if we make it sound or seem like a fun filled festival event of great magnitude and patrotisim..Kindsa like a huge nationwide 4th of July event that Lasts a full Month Long!

              Maybe the fed govnt or private think tanks have a hundred million in cash we can obtain for so worthy a cause eh.

              “The Great American Debunking and wake-Up Event”!!!!

              Bring the kiddies! Bring the Puppies! bring your Camaras folks and get ready for the largest myth’s and Fraud debunking Event ever held worldwide!

              Many varried subjects to be covered all Month long! Just a couple eamples covered and totally fully debunked by Facts and truth’s are…#1…Smallpoax Blankets to injuns!

              #2 95% of everything You were ever told to believe of Both WWI and WWII events…

              #3..Slavery Debunked! with Proof solid that indeed White Irish slaves were enslaved in America and across most of europe. Long before the very First African slave ever boarded a ship after being Sold as a Slave By His own African Tribal leader or king In his lands of africa.

              #4…The Greatest, largest HOAX ever in the entire 20th century…perhaps even in All of known recorded Historic eras events!…A total debunking of the SIX Million and it’s related Holohoax events, also found to be aproximatly at a rate of 98% fraud fakery, with a small 2% bit of truth to make it believable….yes it occured..Just Not as taught to You!

              We also encourage all folks to Bring any questionable events questions for Our expert debunkers staff to be on hand at every State event location!

              And it is ALL FREE folks! The Great American debunking Event Holliday, to be held on a yearly basis from here on out!

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          • Defiant says:

            In a nutshell, the government has made

            the whole country a self-contained prison

            with powers of random execution and absent

            a jury trial of our peers.

            Now, tell me again why the US is vilifying

            N. Korea on human rights issues.

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            • Waiting in Idaho says:

              Defiant:
              You said a mouthful, sir. Does anyone hear Lee Greenwood?

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              • sixpack says:

                I’ll bet Lee feels pretty stupid about now, as well.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  Through organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith they monitor situations of their own making, “sending forth spies which should feign themselves just men” (Luke 20:20), to muzzle free speech on the Internet, in the street or the Press, to combat “hate” and “hate groups”, outlaw gun ownership, erode national defenses, demonstrate for “equality”, “human rights” and “civil liberties” for criminals (like Barabbas), legal abortions, homosexuality, prostitution, narcotics, gambling, and to introduce the filthy debauchery espoused by the Talmud contrary to the Law and the Prophets, and to destroy Christian values.

                  I ask you, who is it that seeks to conceal their identity as Edom, the one God will NEVER forgive (Malachi 1:4), by claiming to be Israel whom God loves and calls “the apple of his eye”? Only one people react as though God hates them, and that is the self-styled Jews.

                  Why is it predominately self-styled Jews who promote these “anti-hate laws” and other “hate crime” legislation? Why would Edomites write Bible commentaries and infiltrate churches and seminaries to persuade Christians to imagine God loves everybody, and that “all men are created equal”?

                  Their purpose is self-preservation, for Cain said, “it will come to pass that every one that finds me shall slay me” (Genesis 4:13). They know they are the “people against whom God has indignation forever” (Malachi 1:4). God hates and has indignation against the self-styled Edomite Jews who press the lie that they are “God’s Chosen People”.

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        • Paranoid says:

          Trust Sam Colt and John Browning. In the event of a general roundup of 2 ed amendment civilians, to go into Government protective custody; I respectfully decline.

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        • Mountain Trekker says:

          Off topic, but I usually am. People blaming guns, where half the murders were committed with a knife in this Elliott Rodger’s case, would also have to blame women if your going to use that logic. Women rejected him and guns were available so which one really caused him to commit these Murders, I’m sure it wasn’t the Parents fault they probably raised him right and his psychologist most likely always gave him plenty of drugs. So lets not just blame Elliot, it wasn’t his fault. But Guns and Women, therein lies the problem. Trekker Out. I Love’em Both!

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          • The Old Coach says:

            Recent report is that he was prescribed an anti-psychotic but refused to take it.

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          • sixpack says:

            Personally, I think Roger’s issues were much deeper than female rejection. Hollywood is FAMOUS for the “casting couch”. I’ll bet that “casting couch” of starlets-gone-by has become much more “gay”…Hell, more than half of hollyweird is gay.

            I’m betting that as a famous Directors son, that cute little boy with the “fabulously plump lips” has most likely been on “the couch” a few times. According to a friend of mine who has been there, it’s probably much easier in hollyweird if you swing that way.

            People are used and discarded like trash.

            Only some kind of emotional trauma like that, could explain the sheer rage that manifested. Years of private agony and abuse. It’s probably the reason he couldn’t socialize, especially with women. I believe it’s much more than his inability to get laid by a woman.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Sixpack: Heres what so badly Influences “HOLLYWOOD”..

              JUDAISM FROM THE TALMUD

              Approves of Sodomy: “If one committed sodomy with a child of less than nine years, no guilt is incurred” (Sanhedrin 54b).

              Approves of Child Sacrifice to Idols: “He who gives of his seed to Molech incurs no punishment” (Sanhedrin 64a).

              Cursing Parents Allowed: “One who curses his parents isn’t punished unless he curses them by Divine name” (Sanhedrin 66a).

              Allows Enchanting: “It is permitted to consult by a charm the spirits of oil and eggs, and make incantations” (Sanhedrin 101a).

              SEX WITH ANIMALS! OK for JEWS! OY VEYH!!

              Bestiality Condoned: “Women having intercourse with a beast can marry a priest, the act is but a mere wound” (Yebamoth 59b).

              Harlotry Lawful: “A harlot’s hire is permitted, for what the woman has received is legally a gift” (Abodah Zarah 62b-63a).

              Blasphemy Allowed: “One can revile the Divine Name if mentally applying it to some other object” (Sanhedrin 65a-b).

              OK to LIE & Disobey OATHS, for jews!

              Not required to Keep Vows: One may declare: “Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null” (Nedarim 23a-23b). (Kol Nidre prayer jews Recite on “Yom Kipper Day” absolves jews of all Oaths made and promices vowed for upcoming entire Year! No wonder jew polititions lie and disregard Vital Oaths eh!)

              MURDER Okay for a Jew to commit!

              Murder Condoned: “If ten men smote a man with ten staves and he died, they are exempt from punishment” (Sanhedrin 78a).(Sounds like Todays “Chimp-Outs Blacks do to Whiteys eh?…Maybe jews is who Taught niggers to act so like a damn ape nigger and so deadly Violent eh?)

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              • Them Guys says:

                NOW:…Compare the Talmud teachings, TO, the Christian Bible!…NO comparision!…More proof No such thing of “jewdeo-christainity” exists nor ever Can exist as reality!

                CHRISTIANITY FROM THE BIBLE

                Prohibits Sodomy: “Thou shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination” (Leviticus 18:22).

                Prohibits Child Sacrifice to Idols: “Whoever gives any of his seed to Molech: he shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 20:2).

                Cursing Parents Prohibited: “He that curses his father or mother, shall be put to death” (Exodus 21:17, Matthew 15:4).

                Disallows Enchanting: “None of you shall be an enchanter or a charmer, or consulter with familiar spirits” (Deuteronomy 18:10-11).

                Bestiality Condemned: “You shall not lie with any beast, nor shall any woman stand before a beast to lie with it” (Leviticus 18:23). (Somebody should have told it to Africans eh!)

                Harlotry Unlawful: “She that plays the whore in her father’s house shall be put to death. (Deuteronomy 22:21).

                Blasphemy Punishable: He that blasphemes the name of the LORD shall surely be put to death” (Leviticus 24:16).

                Required to Keep Vows: “If a man vows, he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that he spoke” (Numbers).

                Murder Forbidden: “He that smites a man with a stave so he dies, he is a murderer and shall be put to dearth” (Numbers 35:18).

                According to The Jewish Encyclopaedia, (Vol. XII (1905) p 1), The TALMUD is “the product of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools” and is generally called “the Babylonian Talmud”. The Pharisees were adherents of this Babylonian thought, and it was this thought and religion which Christ was always at war against. Christ rebuked them saying, “You reject the commandments of God, so that you may keep your own (Babylonian) tradition” (Matthew 7:9).

                Judaism and Christianity are Poles Apart! The opposition between these two systems is as radical today as it was in the days of Jesus. But Judaism is not only derived from “Babylonian Thought but also “from Canaanite religious practices”, according to The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, (Vol. VI, (1942) p. 235).

                The Jews, like their Edomite, Canaanite, Pharisaical and Babylonian ancestors, also reject the commandments of God. This rejection and defiance of God is what Judaism is based upon. As the Jew Bernard Lazare revealed: “It is the Jews who originated biblical exegesis (a critical analysis of the Bible), just as they were the first to criticize the forms and doctrines of Christianity . . . Truly has Darmesteter written: “The Jew was the apostle of unbelief, and every revolt of mind originated with him” (Antisemitism: It’s History and Causes, Britons Publishing Co., 1967, pp 149-151).

                Jesus flagrantly rejected these “Traditions of the Elders” we know today as the Talmud. These traditions blinded the eyes of the People to a true understanding of the prophecies which related to the Coming of Messiah in His day as they do today.

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        • Horhey says:

          I’ve been thinking about this for awhile. What if…..
          The federal government is militarizing the police, buying rounds, training and learning on large detention camps, why? Local governments are pushing on CCW, and purchase. What if we have been tricked? What if their planing a total collaspe, and expecting a invading force to their debt assets? It actually makes more sense. If the US defaults in all that money borrowed, land as collateral, wouldn’t you as a holder of debt try to repo the asset? If you have a heavily armed populace, and the not just the US collapses, but the whole world, I would think invasion. We are the breadbasket of the world (that’s seems to be going away). If I was another country, holder of defunct treasures, a pissed of populace who was suffering, would I invade another country, where the populace is already irratatated at their own government. Willing to allow another to invade and engage the people? Not only would it be a bloodbath, it would thin out the herd. Oh, the NDAA, that Is used for collaborators. Just a thought, nothing seems to make sense anymore, so why not speculate in other possibilities? This scenario is as bad as “they”or “them” are coming after you. Just funny to find pieces of a puzzle connecting to something bigger, but can’t yet see the whole picture.

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      • Be informed says:

        I am hoping that many in the military will realize that the civilians are their neighbors and part of the communities that they grew up in. I hope that they understand whom the real enemy is. That the real enemy will turn on the military when they have used up their usefullness to them. I hope the military has some decency left to turn to whom really is going to be there for each other, the civilian militia that will form a backbone to the armed forced when a foreign enemy attacks and tries to conquer the U.S. I hope that the military refuses to fire on their own people.

        I hope that those in the military see what they are actually fighting for, rich elitists that are the scum of the planet. Turn allegiance to the people and the Constitution that is suppose to be the REAL BOSSES of the U.S. I sure would hope.

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        • Rich98 says:

          Yeah, Well B.I.——— you can shit in one hand and hope in the other. Let me know which hand gets filled first.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Rich98…BI was not referring to your hands…He was aiming at your face and low lives like you.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Heres the REAL BOSSES of USA…And also what was said of it BY a jewish Man, Samual Roth…

              The State of Israel is a parasitic state, stealing billions from Germany for alleged war crimes and billions from the USA. Their international power is built upon the exact opposite of the Mosaic Law. To quote the Jew Samuel Roth: “Our major vice of old, as of today, is parasitism. We are a people of vultures living on the labor and good nature of the rest of the world . . .

              THIS Parts about jews IN america…

              What a sorry spectacle the Jew makes on this continent which he pretends to have enriched! Not only does he fail to contribute any glamor (culture and art) to the scene. He does not even contribute man-power. He does not dig wells, plough fields, forge skyscrapers, lay bricks, cut out trenches, spin wheels, bake dough, fell trees, pack tin cans, sweep streets, heave coal, fire furnaces, weave cloth, dig subways, raise ramparts, wall floods, rivet bridges, hinge gates, or fight fires . . . Towards the man-power of America, Jewry contributes only that which it catches in its own sweatshops, as in so many rat traps — set by itself. It seems to be part of the Jew’s unwritten code that he should never work. Unless something happens to change his vision, I venture to add that he never will, either. . . I cannot find anything of value that Jews have created in their 250 years residence on the American continent”. (Samuel Roth, Jews Must Live, The Golden Hind Press, New York, (1934) pp. 56, 101. 108)

              HENRY FORD: “Jewry’s political outlook is world rule in the material sense (as evident in Communism). Jewry is an international nation. It is this, and nothing else, which gives significance to its financial, educational, propagandist, revolutionary and immigration programs”. (The International Jew: The World’s Foremost Problem, Dearborn Publishing Co. — 1921, Vol. III, p 178).

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          • the renegade braveheart says:

            Rich98, under other circumstances I would’ve said, “welcome back, how have you been?”, but you had no cause to attack BI like that, so cool it.

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            • John W. says:

              That was not an attack but a wake the hell up comment. Hope is a pretty lame way to prepare for life. Little children use hope as a plan not grownups.

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              • Be informed says:

                @ John W. Hope with me is nothing but a “nicecity”, it is definitely not a plan. I agree. I also must say that the military people I know, in and out of the military understand that the Constitution is what governs them. They have told me that BO is NOT their boss if and when BO decides to trash the Constitution. This is with ANY bad president. I live in a more pro-Constitution area though. AND I AGREE, that many in the military that are pro BO will become ruthless monsters that the civilian army will be fighting against.

                Hope can be a pipe dream, it can also be the only thing that keeps people going and dropping into an uncontrolled depression when mega SHTF.

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            • Be informed says:

              @ braveheart. I think people took wrong what I am saying. I am very cynical of the human nature and usually a human will take the easiest path to get what they personally need and want. I just HOPE that those in the military will wake up and see that the BEST path is following the Constitution and the people rather than the evil. At least some of the military following the people will give the people a good fighting chance if the government decides to go the way of tyranny like so many empires have done in the past.

              Please check below in a few minutes after I post an earthquake alert as the precursor earthquake activity is high and a very likely devastating earthquake is coming.

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        • Anonymous says:

          BI……Based on recent news and violence against military vets and regular citizens by the police forces across the nation who actually are quipped as good as the military (perhaps even better) I also am hopeful that you are right but my confidence level is below zero.

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          • Anonymous says:

            I would strongly advise veterans to read the book, “How to Become Invisible” and act on it.. and meditate!!

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            • Them Guys says:

              How to become Invisible:…Easy! as resident expert barn cat always promotes…HIDE in Basement!

              TIP; Wear a brown paper bag over entire Head and face because if you cannot “SEE” anthing with said Paper bag covered head and face…Then Nobody Else will ever be able to SEE you! Ergo You become Invisible!

              What a Plan for the comming Fight of everybodys lifetime eh. Just go and Hide! or be invisible.

              As SEEN on TV folks! Send $19.99 + shipping fees to “become invisible in a handy Spray Can!” PO Box IDIOTS anywheres usa.

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        • FreeSlave says:

          BI: “I hope that the military refuses to fire on their own people.”

          I confess to only having a mild, tepid hope in that.

          #1. Low-info voters voted for Obama twice. Some/much of that same population enlisted for the service.

          #2. The Obama purge of senior military officers.

          #3. The cowardice of current senior military commanders in the face of political tyranny by a liberal President.

          #4. What you, as a patriot, are really hoping for, is a mutiny against standing orders by senior military officers. How likely is that? Cowardice rolls down hill. If the JCS bows before Obama’s edicts, it rolls all down hill.

          “I was only obeying orders” and the whole Nuremberg and Stanley Milgram stuff gets played out again ad nauseam. Except this time, it’s on patriotic civilians.

          #5. The liberal media will carry the water again for a tyrannical action by Obama. Sheeple will watch and comply despite alternative outlets from the internet and friends/family. East German snitching, and resultant paranoia, will be the atmosphere of the day.

          #6. Bureaucratic Cowardice reigns in government agencies. A bureaucrat is given a choice: Follow agency orders against the citizens that we deem as a menace, or you’ll be fired with a loss of benefits and pension. What’s a bureaucrat gonna do? He’ll comply! Or do you think he’s gonna disobey, and even go to lengths to commit armed mutiny to protect an innocent civilian populace? Knowing that he’ll be vilified by a liberal media, and even perhaps shunned by a wife and family dependent on his income?

          Trying to not only be informed, but to also be realistic.

          Other than that, you’re one of the best, if not the best commenter on this blog. Pax.

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          • Kevin2 says:

            We asked a co-worker of my wife who served in Iraq as a US Marine Corps Reserve Lance Corporal if Marines would fire on Americans if ordered to do so. His reply; “Marines follow orders”.

            Thats a reservist not a lifer or an officer.

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            • Defiant says:

              Marines and their fellow service brethren

              are the closest thing to robotics and still

              have blood running through their veins.

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            • clyde says:

              I was just an E-4 in the Marine Corps Not force recon or any of that. Just a run of the mill jarhead.

              People who have never been in there just don’t understand how it works.

              Obviously I wouldn’t have lined women and kids up against a wall and shot them.

              But if you were armed and the GSGT said to shoot you well ,one of us was going to have a bad day.

              Enlisted Marines really don’t have much say in how things go. Its not like the Air Force where you have an opinion.

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              • Kevin2 says:

                “Obviously I wouldn’t have lined women and kids up against a wall and shot them.”

                Maybe not initially. First it starts with male enemies of “us” (whoever us is). An atrocity perceived or genuinely intentional on one side brings an atrocity from the other. After a while the “enemy” is sufficiently dehumanized. Given sufficient time non combatants regardless of age or gender become “fair game”. The British those pillars of humanity did it to the families of Dutch Boers in South Africa and unarmed civilians in India. The US did to to Vietnamese and a while back the American Indian. Were not taking German NAZIs here but supposedly “civilized” people.

                If the US had invaded Japan by 1947 maybe earlier civilians would have been executed in droves as everyone would have been considered “the enemy” and the its “better them than me” mentality takes over.

                Humanity is a luxury not purchased in the above.

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                • Brane Frees says:

                  Anyone with any doubts should read this book:

                  Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland

                  Very telling.

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              • Hunter says:

                Clyde-

                You forgot to mention the fact that, the USMC falls under the jurisdiction of the Dept of the Navy…which according to the Constitution “IS” exempt from the “Posse Comitatus” clause!

                ..thumbs-up for your honesty…& hopefully, most modern “gunny sgts” will throw sand in the gears……………….when the time is ripe!

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              • John W. says:

                There is a reason why Obama has removed all those high ranking officers and replaced them with those who believe as he does. The grunts will not fire unless ordered and when that happens all their families that live off base should get the same treatment.

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          • hammerhead says:

            WELL , MAYBE we should politely remind those military personel that following unconstitutional orders just might bring hell to THEIR homefront.
            It aint that hard to find out who people are or where they are from .
            F##K with my family , I will return the favor .

            Seems like a fair policy to me .

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            • Kevin2 says:

              TPTB are hoping those words get transferred to them to demonize their opponents and justify their brutality.

              Your not going to have to do that. TPTB will be doing it for you with a few false flags to motivate their enforcers. TPTB need to socially separate in the minds of their troops the differences between Them and Us. During the Civil Rights movement it was an easy Black & White issue (no pun intended). The Vietnam protestors had long unkempt hair making it easy too. Its going to be a little trickier (but not impossible) this time as an economic collapse will effect damn near everyone. I guarantee that tax dollar paid studies from Think Tanks have worked diligently on this very issue. Make no mistake; they’re on it.

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            • the renegade braveheart says:

              Hammerhead, I’m right there with you.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Yeah, but a lot of people have woken up now. I read the percentage of people who say they are democrats was about 30%, republicans was around 25% and the rest were independents… most people know the government is untrustwothy/corrupt as hell.

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            • sixpack says:

              “most people know the government is untrustwothy/corrupt as hell”

              Absolutely, but KNOWING SOMETHING and DOING SOMETHING are two vastly different things.

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          • Waiting in Idaho says:

            Whiskey Rebellion, New York City draft riots during CW1, Wounded Knee, Bonus Marchers, Kent State and numerous times the military and Guard have been called out to break strikes or enforce federal law against state wishes make me think that Oath Keepers are an empty promise. It would be nice, though.

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        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

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        • Mr. Blutarsky says:

          If the military doesn’t get you, obama’s private army will!!!!

          You might be mowed down by your local postal carrier, the EPA, the Bureau of Land Management, Homeland Security or even your local college campus security!!

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        • Anonymous says:

          SPEAKING OF NEIGHBORS… ever thought of wearing a little lapel on your jacket? Just a little thing, like maybe, “Molon Laube” or “shtf” to get people’s attention? If no one knows what this means, you know they are not on the same page as you. However, if they do know what these words mean, then they are your conpatriots and someone on your side. We need to know who is on our side.

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          • sixpack says:

            LOL, OR they could be a govt agent, trained in “anti-domestic terrorism.”

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            • Mountain Trekker says:

              I’m afraid most people don’t really realize the relevance or seriousness of the NSA’s snooping. There are so many things that we do or say, that go into their computer files that can and will be used against us when the appropriate time comes. They’re is just so many things that can be used that never cross our mind. Sometime there are things that I personally would like to comment on but for opsec I have to keep to myself, because they could be used against me. Have I lost some freedom? You betcha! Just think, remmber when you told your dad, brother or son over the phone how well or how bad your old M1 was shooting, 10 years from now don’t try and tell them,”What M1!” . Trekker Out.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Lapel Pins: Thats what Most folks who work in TV MSM news shows, like Glen Beck, Hannity, Hume, Blitzer and Most others do now…Only Their lapel pin’s to show their “Loyalty” are a tiny Israel state Flag, with its Blue and White colors and twin stripes…And of course smack dab in the middle it also contains their Famous…

              Satanic…

              Antichrist-Six-Pointed-Star of Molech and Refaim(sp?)…

              So at least we now know who some of those Shabozz goyim, Traitor’s are eh.

              It’s the Edomite’s who call themselves “Self Chozen’s”…Stupid!

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        • BI,

          As the saying goes, “Adversity introduces us to ourselves.”

          Adversity doesn’t get much worse than a soldier forced to choose between following illegal orders and his/her oath to defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic.

          This is where the rubber meets the road. As we saw during post-Katrina, there were ruthless mercenary police brought in from across the country willing to repeatedly violate the Constitution with intense indiscretion in the name of a fat paycheck.

          I believe we will see the military split right down the middle between those who will follow orders for a paycheck and those who will understand and honor their oaths. As for police, for the most part they already see the public as vermin to be hunted down and they will mostly follow what ever illegal directives they are given IMO.

          If we ever get to that point, the U.S. will never be the same again.

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          • Kevin2 says:

            “follow what ever illegal directives they are given ”

            Like Nixon regarding bombing Cambodia, “When the President does it its not illegal” they believe whatever their told to do its “legal” simply because it came from government. If one pointed out to them the similarities with NAZIs they would scoff because their uniforms are different (actually not too different) and they don’t do those NAZI things like goose step.

            Symbolism has long ago replaced substance. One only need to look at Christmas.

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            • Kevin2

              >>”Symbolism has long ago replaced substance.”<<

              Exactly! Most Americans have been so thoroughly brainwashed and conditioned they cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy. If it is progressive and Obama supports it, and their friends like it, it must be a good thing.

              Just this morning I was a passenger on a flight from Orlando to Chicago. I was sitting beside a very talkative 40 something female passenger who lives in Chicago. We were engaged in a quasi-political exchange and she seemed reasonably intelligent until I asked her if she's aware of what happened with Detroit's finances. At this point her pupils seemed to dilate and she had a completely blank look on her face. I told her that Detroit went bankrupt. She replied, "When did this happen?!?!"

              A major U.S. city goes "Tango Uniform" and folks are completely oblivious of that fact? Not to beat a dead horse, but I can't imagine the event that will bring Americans out of their stupor.

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              • Kevin2 says:

                “I can’t imagine the event that will bring Americans out of their stupor.”

                Starvation.

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                • Kevin2,

                  Starvation tends to be the great equalizer. No matter how rich or poor, starvation separates the wheat from the chaff.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  Thats correct Kevin and it weren’t no nazis that proved Forced Starvations so effective, when 1/3rd of Ukraines folks were mass starved By Jewish Bolshevik Kommie Soviets. It took less than 18 months for between at least 7 to as high as 10 million Ukrainians to be dead and the others yet alive to turn into actual Canabals eating those dead bodies as a last ditch effort to remain alive a littler longer.

                  That Ukraine starvation/extermination of white christian folks is called the Holodomer. Most americans never heard of it at all! but they all have heard constantly of the fabled six million jews eh.

                  Then there are the Others in Ukraine, several Million More who were rounded up, taken to the forest areas, and systematicaly Shot with one bullet to back of head execution style…Also perpetrated by those so evil jewdeo bolishie kommie soviets.

                  Perhaps thats where those nazis Learned such tactics from eh…maybe, maybe not, but one thing unrefutable is that in 20 yrs after the jewdeo kommies overtook russia, germany too was full of russian and polish jewish soviet bolsheviks assisting the already Long present upper class jews in control of all that mattered in germany then, as is Now today in america.

                  No wonder a vital need arose for them german nazis eh…They didn’t desire for germany to become what Russia and a Dozen more eastern euro nations had become due to jewdeo sovietisim kommie Butchers.

                  Ironic how we Daily hear some mention of nazis, hitler or six million jews….yet when have we ever yet heard of those couple hundred Million poor “Goyom non jewish” souls so brutalized and exterminated By jewish soviet kommies eh…Thats correct also, we Never yet and never will hear of those atrocities…But they still existed as factual and Real nevertheless.

                  Thats what happens when those who have a huge vested intrest in a total black-out, cover-up of such jewdeo bolshevik kommie events also own and Control and Staff every major TV news MSM in America today I rekon.

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              • Kevin2 says:

                WJC and GWB were no saints either between “Free Trade” eviscerating US Industrial Capacity and wars with ostensible justifications not to mention the practical eradication of the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments.

                They’re all in cahoots.

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              • the renegade braveheart says:

                YH, I see the same thing with the sheeple in Memphis every day. If starvation or a NBC attack [ nuclear, biological, chemical] don’t wake them up, nothing will.

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              • BadAmerican says:

                @TH:

                Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

                “Tango Uniform” ——subtle….but classic.[lol]

                Good Form Sir !!!

                ……..caint touch this….BA.

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        • Anonymous says:

          SPEAKING OF NEIGHBORS…ever thought of wearing a little lapel on your shirt with words such as, “Molon Lobe” or “shtf”, etc. to get people’s attention? If they don’t know what it means you know they are not on the same page as you. However, if they do know what it means, it means they are your conpatriots. We need to know who is on our side.

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        • John Q. Public says:

          The US military fired upon the veteran bonus marchers… and that was during MUCH better times.

          Expect the worst.

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          • the renegade braveheart says:

            JQP, I lost a relative in that atrocity. Certain US army officers named Douglas MacArthur, George Patton, Omar Bradley, and Dwight Eisenhower were in charge of the atrocity. they were later made heros in WW2 and the Bonus Army incident was all forgotten about.

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            • To paraphrase Mary McCarthy… when it comes to the “establishment,” their every word is a lie, even “a” and “the.”

              A corollary—whoever the synagogue’s media and “history” lionizes is likely a devil.

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        • oldwhatshisname says:

          IMHO, most American military will not turn on their neighbors because they will be home protecting their families. But there are crazies in every profession, and some are just violent people and will react to mobocracy!

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        • crazy2medic says:

          This is why obama has canned so many of the top military brass he wants total compliance from the DOD, bet the rank and file won’t be so easy to get compliance from

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        • the renegade braveheart says:

          BI, good evening, and I have the same hopes you have concerning the military and law enforcement. However, my message to everyone concerned is still the same: Force your way into my home and you will die. I won’t care what you’re wearing or what you look like.

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      • Mountain Trekker says:

        Can you believe it, a Marine makes a wrong turn with a gun in his car and ends up in prison in Mexico. And a Black man sends guns into Mexico illegally and gets U.S. agents murdered and he gets to stay in the White House. Is this a great country or what? Trekker Out.

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        • Gonetoolong says:

          Time and time again. Upside down, downside up. We stay phucked.

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        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          I hear ya MT.. But honestly, who takes a wrong turn and goes to Mexico? There is more to the story….that no body is telling us.

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          • BadAmerican says:

            Cali ends and Mexico begins at about the Oregon border, easy to get lost……just sayin’

            ….playin’ peek a boo in NorCal…BA.

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        • apache54 says:

          mountain trekker!
          That was a good synopsis! keep that mind a working!!

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        • John W. says:

          Remember when Clinton was rubbing his dick on womens faces and was called a hero while at the same time the six year old little boy was kicked out of school for kissing his little girl friend on the cheek. Are we one fucked up country or what?

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      • On the Path says:

        Yes, they are preparing. Question is, what is the event(s) that will trigger their implementation? Signs point to an economic crash, but could be any number of other things.

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        • femaregion1 says:

          I was going say EMP / feds shut off the electricity. That can happen at any time now.

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        • jerrytbg says:

          “….what is the event(s)…”

          True, any number of things…I lean heavily toward something big they tried to control and couldn’t…
          but there will be a cascade effect and that is what all the preps and contingency planning is for.

          Gonna be one hell of a ride…buckle up. Got water…

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        • Barn Cat says:

          The government can trigger the crash whenever it wants to. If EBT cards stopped working, all hell would break loose.

          Or the dollar could collapse first.

          Or we could have an EMP.

          Or Obama could trigger World War III in Ukraine or Syria.

          Or the banksters could be allowed to steal the money from every bank account in America with Russia and China getting blamed for it.

          Most likely, the triggering event to the collapse will be something nobody has thought of.

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          • Grafique says:

            WWIII will be triggered by the invasion of Israel by Russia/Iran and “many other people” – Ezekiel 38. God will miraculously protect his people, destroying the invaders, “And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.” Ezekiel 39:6.
            (Isles is an ancient reference to the ‘continents’.)

            What will the “fire” be that God will send on the continents?

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            • Barn Cat says:

              It’s possible that the US military will be forced to take part in such an attack.

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            • Pissed Off Granny says:

              Now, Grafique, if you can just get figured out “WHO” the Israel is that God has blessed and is talking about you will have learned something.

              Please post all the ‘blessings’ the Lord promised Israel and then try to convince Bible scholars that the stolen state of israelie and the tribe who occupies it were ever blessed with all those promises.

              If you are honest at all you will not be able to show where those multitudes of blessings were ever bestowed on those people or their stolen land.

              So have at it, Grafique, post from the Bible all those blessings and then post where israelie has been the country who received them. Those blessings were given to Christians and Christian nations, God’s true Israel, and to America, the land HE blessed the most.

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              • Grafique says:

                No, Granny, I’m not going to post something just to give you a target. Here’s a better idea – try believing what the Bible has to say instead of Satan, who hates Israel.

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                • Pissed Off Granny says:

                  Grafique:

                  One important part of your post is true. Satan HATES true Israel. Satan hates Christ-loving Christians. Do you really think that country, Israelie, is full of Christ loving Christians? Get a grip on reality Grafique, that miserable land is full of jew Talmud believers.

                  The sorry excuse that you do not want to give me any ammunition is just that, a sorry excuse. The truth is you cant. Those blessings, Gods’ promise that he never broke, were given to nations who worshipped the true God, not the jews G-d. Look that up Grafique, is that the God you are worshipping, the religion that does NOT believe in Jesus Christ, the true Messiah?

                  If you are a member of the tribe, then I understand where your posts are coming from; if not then I suggest you get away from the false preacher/teachers that Christ has promised to send to their eternal death.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  The Bible says: Those Blessings will also Bless and greatly benifit all Other nations and even Every Family in the nations of the entire world!

                  So Main question now is: When and What nation OR any of it’s “Familys” have EVER been Blessed By jews? or due to Hosting said jews?

                  One cannot name even one single such blessed nation nor its familys of gentiles peoples since every nation to ever play the host to that parasitical tribe of vultures and vampiristic parasites, the jews, has all ended up Booting them Out once enough folks Wized up to what or who was detroying the very Fabric of its nation.

                  To Date its been 109 nations and a grand total of aprox 245-250 seperate boot out events since AD 245.(they keep Re-infiltrating some nations).

                  Obviously it has been Christ the abrahamic blessings spoke of when God included abrahams “SEED” in his blessings, and which Paul In Book of Galatians, in new testement writes of as the proof.

                  AND also quite Obvious to those whos eye scales have been removed so they with eyes to see..Can actually SEE real truth as evidenced….It was/is America that got so massivly blessed by God, and has endevored constantly to Share and provide for less fortunate others in other nations a share part of those massive God granted Blessings america has been given eh…One quick look see at the many tons of patrotic nation songs americans have, shows that prior wiser generations of americans Knew this as truth!…No Other nation globally has ever had so many national songs and mentions of God and Godly Blessings bestowed upon its nation and its peoples besides the usa america.

                  yet Not one single thing can be said like that of jews or their stolen rabid aperthide state of israel as it exists today eh….no…That is a factual certainty that no such blessings were given to jews, and no other nations nor its familys has ever recieved a share in any jews blessings….maybe its due to they are as Christ said of them “Imposters who call themselevs jews but are Not jews and Are the synagouge of Satan, REV 2:9.

                  In other words they are, most of the jews that is, Edomites of Esau Posing as jews of israels ancient 12 tribes….Read what your bible says Gods going to do To them evil edmoites!…

                  PS Edom means the color “RED”, how fiting when one considers its the same fraud fake jew edomites posed as ashkanazi jews who when in russia invented communism, and had as their kommie state Flag banners a solid RED color flag to represent the enormous Bloodshed caused By their jewish invention of communism.

                  And also every fellow traveler nation of commies has a RED color flag too!…Just another in the massive amount of “jew coincidences”? No! Its all been Planned by them. NO such coincidences folks.

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          • Grafique says:

            Never in all of history has such an invasion happened. That’s how we know this prophecy is still unfulfilled.

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      • Man on the inside says:

        Have you noticed this is not the only country moving toward military use of force on their own population? We move ever closer to NOW and one world government.

        “Come a day there won’t be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all. So here is us, on the raggedy edge. Don’t push me, and I won’t push you. Dong le ma?” PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS. ……… Ju hao yun ………

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      • Anonymous says:

        Yep, its all true!! Zero Hedge has full article, everything!

        When the water gets hotter its time for the frog to take a new approach.

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      • 300lb Gorilla says:

        Said it earlier but warrants repeating:

        Love your Freedom?

        Love GOD?

        Love the unborn?

        Love your country enough to serve and possibly die for?

        Love justice for all?

        Love personal accountabilty?

        You are an enemy of the state and history shows you will be dealt with. History littered by millions of bodies of those who were killed by their own governments…

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      • SonOfSam says:

        I am a man
        I am a citizen
        I WILL NOT BE BULLIED

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    2. This is such a cluster Fk! I just don’t recognize the USofA anymore. I don’t sit at home cowering in the corner waiting, my family and I still get out and about, but it feels so much like the noose is tightening every day.

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    3. Anonymous says:

      Why this directive even a surprise to anyone? Fascist states and countries have been doing that on a constant basis….In Chile military killed thousands in a soccer stadium and getting to recent events just look at Ukraine, Bahrain, IRAN, and so on…. Don’t even get me started as who were the planners. Until majority of people on this plant unable to see the puppet masters such killing continues and even get escalated.

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    4. Run, Forrest, Run says:

      They may be quite surprised when it all goes down when a significant percentage of their police, security, or army head home to take care of their families..

      How many of these forces are married? With children? How many of them want to stand in the middle of a riot getting pelted, beaten, or worse while they know they have a family at home likely to be looted?

      There are a lot more cops on the side of the people then they think. We only hear about the bone headed mistakes the idiot ones make. Solid source.

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      • Man on the inside says:

        very true…

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      • hammerhead says:

        Evidently , they plan on the cops folding and headin home.
        Thats why they need the military to step in .

        “A second use is when federal, state and local authorities “are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for federal property or federal governmental functions.”

        So what includes a governmental function?
        Road repair ?
        Seems like a pretty broad brush stroke here , just sayin.

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        • oldwhatshisname says:

          “Evidently , they plan on the cops folding and headin home.
          Thats why they need the military to step in.”

          That is…the Russian and Chinese military will step in; Russians are already in USA and Chinese are close by. They hate Americans anyway.

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        • the renegade braveheart says:

          Hammerhead, foreign military will be brought in to act against us and they will jump for joy at the chance to kill Americans. Expect to see Obama’s private army also. any way you cut it, they will all be targets of opportunity and fair game.

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      • Barn Cat says:

        No, they won’t be going home to protect their families. Their families will be taken into protective custody to guarantee the loyalty of the police and military.

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      • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

        This is the problem, they will ship the troops away from their own home communities to some other state, to depersonalize their genocide. Otherwise there would be to much rebellion within the ranks, firing on their own families or communities of people they know. This is where they will also bring in UN troops, or a Paid Mercenaries like the old Blackwater crew. But the good thing as we know our own home turf and back alleys. Our Government far underestimates the fire power of the citizens. The worlds largest Army is the American hunter with 350 Million guns at our disposal. That’s a lot of Ammo out there right now ready to be put to use.

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    5. FreeIllinois says:

      Sad day in the USA when the military will be allowed against the people.

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      • FreeIllinois,

        It’s far worse than a sad day. It could usher in the next American Civil War. An unimaginable level of destruction could result from the unintended consequence of a fearful corrupt government lashing out against an armed citizenry.

        Let’s just hope it doesn’t come to that, although it isn’t looking promising.

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    6. Agent Provocatour says:

      Gee, I’d hate to be a family member of a government employee who would participate in something like this. No telling what kind of reprisals will take place. If I where a government employee I would lay low, not show up for work…you know, to protect my family. That’s what I would do…IF you know what I mean.

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      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        I were a govt. employee would get as much info. and supplies out the backdoor at last minute and side with citizens,of course,don’t work for the govt.

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        • Man on the inside says:

          I Do and many of us will not stand for this crap…. We will turn and defend the citizens… NOT the goverment. There are more of us than you think…. It will end badley for the tyrants…. PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I was thinking of that last night, Agent… what to do, what to do… how do you stop your country from turning on you? Then I remembered– what’s that guy’s name? donor? He was a war vet and he ended up being burned alive by cops in a cabin or something? Well, he learned in the military what to do when the odds are against you– he burned the cops’ family up, I believe? Not sure- don’t remember. Anyhow, I don’t know what to do to stop a police state– I guess there is some reference for it in history.

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    7. SWFL says:

      We are all safe from this; it states “unexpected”… Given the behavior of the Govmnt lately any large scale uprising will obviously not be unexpected.

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    8. Waiting in Idaho says:

      I know of people who are amassing guns, ammunition and equipment in anticipation of of over-reaching tyrants attempting to subjugate free citizens. What a coincidence. Bill Clinton was acclaimed as the first black president. Hilary wants to be the first woman president, but Obammy beat her to it. I’ll bet that makes his vagina pout.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Well, they better, Idaho– I just read on Paul Craig Roberts’ website that not only the DHS has billions of rounds of hollow point bullets, but also, the Social Security Agency, the FDA, even the Postal Service! Plus, these agencies have sub machine guns! Yep, they are preparing for something and I doubt its Christmas!

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        • Anonymous says:

          From Paul Craig Roberts site–

          Western civilization is a skeleton. It still stands, barely, but there is no life in it. The blood of liberty has departed. Western peoples look at their governments and see nothing but enemies. Why else has Washington militarized local police forces, equipping them as if they were occupying armies? Why else has Homeland Security, the Department of Agriculture, and even the Postal Service and Social Security Administration ordered billions of rounds of ammunition and even submachine guns? What is this taxpayer-paid-for arsenal for if not to suppress US citizens

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        • Cameraman says:

          My 308 Trumps the 40Cal Hp by about 400yrds!!

          Your Welcome!

          Semper Fi

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    9. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      Anybody in the Military who is going along with this, is a Prostitute. And as history reflects, Hookers and Prostitute will do anything fore a buck.

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    10. The Federal government has always used whatever violent force is needed to consolidate it’s power and enforce it’s edicts. This has been true from the git go.

      Remember the Whiskey Rebellion? Washington rode on the war veteran farmers in Western PA. when they used their surplus grain to make spirits to sell and refused to pay taxes, saying that was taxation without representation.

      When George arrived with 13,000 or so troops, the farmers disappeared…Jefferson later repealed the tax.

      So, I guess using the troops against the common man is not new. Now be a good little “citizen” and behave yourself…lol.

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      • Kevin2 says:

        JRS

        The ink wasn’t dry on the Constitution and Bill of Rights when the very framers by-passed it with the Alien and Sedition Acts. Given various flaws in human nature well summarized with the phrase, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” its a damn difficult document to live up to. Everyone wants to cheat at its application except those effected by it.

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        • the renegade braveheart says:

          kevin2, the alien and sedition acts were the work of John Adams, one POS among the founding Fathers. Another POS was Alexander Hamilton.

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          • Kevin2 says:

            Well aware of that. Jefferson stopped it.

            As I said, given human nature its a difficult document to live up to. Toss in a concentration of wealth where half a dozen mega corporations own the MSM and loose control of the money supply to private interests and its expected that we would morph into this Bill of Rights in name not in substance we have today.

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    11. Socrates says:

      That’s EXACTLY what Oblama stated in his 2008 campaign speech July 2, Colorado Springs, CO:

      [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

      People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

      We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

      We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

      Regardless of what FACTCHECK.ORG thinks (or anyone else)
      Actions speak louder than words. So far Obummers ACTIONS have proven him to be a typical, two-faced hypocritical LIAR.

      He (and others) know that the Posse Comitias act prevents them from using active U.S. military against civilians in police acts. SO he sets up as many executive orders as possible and creates his OWN ‘military’ through the IRS, DHS, TSA, FBI,NSA and every other 3 letter agency you can think of. Also, the LOCAL police forces have been getting TONS of money, training and specialized military equipment (MRAPS, armor, etc…)DIRECT from the government. And you KNOW why.

      The NDAA (and other acts) are designed strictly for more power for the gov and less for the people. We already see how good that ‘healthcare’ mandate is working…NOT!

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      • KY Mom says:

        The Obama army – “Stability Police Force” in the U.S. to meet the “goals” they have set

        In a speech in Colorado Springs, Obama said, “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
        http://www.wnd.com/2011/07/323821/

        Obama Civilian Security
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

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        • Bingo KY Mom! It is frankly shocking that the rest of the world has quietly swept this stunning narrative under the rug. It is ultra-rare for a politician to tell us what they really think. So when it happens, EVERYONE, should sit up and take notice!

          Thanks KY Mom.

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        • oldwhatshisname says:

          Rand Corp is controlled by Bilderberg Group, Council on Foreign Affairs and the Trilateral Commission.

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    12. Stew Pedaso says:

      They should keep in mind that while some troops are “quelling” my family…other troops will be “quelling theirs. Say no to unreasonable orders…some of us might get unreasonable if you don’t.

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    13. Jim in Va. says:

      Its just a matter of time. War or our economy callapsing and a try at gun confiscation. Time to prep up and hunker down.

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      • PA farmer says:

        One more Generation, an one more 8yr term potus and they’ll have what they’ve waited for, for fifty yrs. I’ll be to old to fight and they know it. This country is done, put a fork in it. I do hope this next generation would wake up, but I’m not gona hold my breath..

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        • Warchild Dammit says:

          PA,there are many ways to fight,supply water/food for citizens fighting/medical aid if possible/hell,just go around when possible and spray paint resistance slogans to help keep folks spirits up and let em know they are not alone/take in if possible folks kids and care for em so folks can concentrate on dealing with whats happening,oh,and a good bi pod/shooting stick never hurts.

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        • 10mm says:

          Your right Pa farmer,100% right. S. central here.

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    14. Harmony Hermit says:

      Remember the Bonus Marchers. McArthur, Eisenhower and Patton used US troops against their brothers who had served in the Great War.

      The bad side of an all volunteer Military is that the troops will do what their paymasters order them to.

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    15. unknown suspect says:

      Sounds like the current regime wants to bring back a term that has not been spoken in over 100 years- Civil War Veteran.

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    16. It seems with our government they’re willing to try anything as long as they look like the good guys or it benefits them some how, even if it means destroying the lives of innocent American citizens who believe in god, faith and the constitution.

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    17. Hui R. Fuqued says:

      Yes, unfortunately, these lowlife scumbags will indeed try to take away all civil rights from us, we the people, but they will indeed attack those who support the Second Amendment first, and with extreme “enthusiasm” as a lesson to the rest of the populace. May there be massive non-compliance.

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    18. As the saying goes, “It’s not paranoia, if they’re really out to get you.”

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    19. Agent Provocatour says:

      This is the way I see it all going down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qejPWAS1kwo

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    20. eppe says:

      >>Subject: BubbaKnows
      >>
      >>Bubba, an airline mechanic, was bragging to his boss one day. “You
      >>know, I know everyone there is to know. Just name Someone, Anyone and
      >>I know them.”
      >>Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, “Okay, Bubba, how
      >>about Tom Cruise”?
      >>”Sure, yes, Tom and I are old friends and I can prove it.”
      >>So, Bubba and his boss fly out to Hollywood and knock on Tom Cruise’s
      >>door and sure enough, Tom Cruise, shouts, “Bubba ! Great to see You!
      >>You and your friend come right in and join me for lunch!”
      >>Although impressed, Bubba’s boss is still skeptical. After they leave
      >>Cruise’s house, he tells Bubba that he thinks Bubba’s knowing Cruise
      >>was just lucky.
      >>”No, no, just name anyone else,” Bubba says.
      >>”President Bush,” his Boss quickly retorts.
      >>Yep”, Bubba says, “I know him, let’s fly out to Washington.”
      >>So, off they go. At the White House, Bush spots Bubba on the tour and
      >>motions him and his boss over, saying, “Bubba, what a surprise. I was
      >>just on my way to a meeting, but you and your friend come on in and
      >>let’s have a cup of coffee first and catch up.”
      >>Well, the boss is very shaken by now, but still not totally convinced.
      >>After they leave the White House grounds, he expresses his doubts to
      >>Bubba, who again implores him to name anyone else.
      >>The new Pope,” his boss replies.
      >>”Sure!” says Bubba. “I’ve known the Pope a long time.”
      >>So, off they fly to Rome.
      >>Bubba and his boss are assembled with the masses in Vatican Square
      >>when Bubba says, this will never work. I can’t catch the Pope’s eye
      >>among all these people. Tell you what, I know all the guards, so let
      >>me just go upstairs and I’ll come out on the balcony with the Pope.”
      >>He disappears into the crowd headed toward St. Peter’s.
      >>Sure enough, half an hour later, Bubba emerges with the Pope on the
      >>balcony. But by the time Bubba returns, he finds that his Boss has
      >>had a heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics.
      >>Working his way to his boss’ side, Bubba asks him, “What happened”?
      >>His boss looks up and says, “I was doing fine until you and The Pope
      >>came out on the balcony and the Japanese tourist next to me asked,
      >>”Who’s that on the balcony with Bubba”?

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    21. Booger says:

      The text of the Posse Comitatus Act, which is still in effect (as 18 U.S.C. Section 1385), reads:
      Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both. It appears that it would take an act of Congress or an amendment to the Constitution for Federal troop to be used against civilians. Hopefully the patriot Act doesn’t trump the posse Comitatus act anytime in the near future. Stranger things have happened !

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      • Satori says:

        I think that at this point
        the law is irrelevant

        government officials regularly violate with impunity
        there is no responsibility
        no accountability

        the head of the NSA deliberately perjured himself before Congress
        not once
        but twice
        the penalty ???

        NONE

        Wall Street and the banksters plunged the country into a depression
        committed literally millions of felonies
        the penalty ???

        they kept their jobs and their bonuses

        don’t expect the law or Constitution to be enforced
        the judiciary in this country is just as corrupt as the Executive and Legislative branches are

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      • This Texan Has Had Enough says:

        Just another old, useless piece of paper to Obozo, like the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

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    22. Booger says:

      An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to
      her and said, “Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a
      conversation with your fellow passenger.”
      The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total
      stranger, “What would you want to talk about?”
      “Oh, I don’t know,” said the atheist. “How about why there is no GOD, or no
      Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?” as he smiled smugly.
      “OK,” she said. “Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a
      question first.
      A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff – grass. Yet a deer
      excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but
      a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?”
      The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl’s intelligence, thinks
      about it and says, “Hmmm, I have no idea.”
      To which the little girl replies, “Do you really feel qualified to discuss
      why there is no GOD, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after
      death, when you don’t know shit?”
      And then she went back to reading her book.

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      • What an original joke, but wait, we read that yesterday.
        Try this.

        What’s the difference between boogers and broccoli?

        Kids don’t eat broccoli.

        Why did the man catch his nose?

        Because it was running

        How do you make a tissue dance?

        You put a boogie in it

        What does a booger in love tell his girl friend?

        I’m stuck on you.

        Why did the booger cross the road?

        Because he was being picked on.

        Where does your nose go when it gets hungry?

        Booger King!!!

        If you were a booger…

        I’d pick you first.

        What do you call a skinny booger?

        Slim pickins.

        What’s another name for a snail?

        A booger wearing a crash helmet.

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    23. charlie2dogs says:

      when a govt has to spy on its own people, when the govt has to make plans to use military against America’s own people, you know you have a corrupt govt, americans your country is gone and you are next, are ya proud of ya vote now?

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    24. Confederate says:

      What is disturbing is that no one is calling Obama out on this. Where is the patriot within the govt. who would be willing take matters into their own hands and take out these traitors that are attempting to bring down our country? When the Caesar’s of Rome became so contemptuous of the people the practorian guard usually ended up “liquidating” their “Dear Leader”, if the guard didn’t do it, someone would poison his food or wine. In some cases “accidents” happened. Where is the person or person’s who would do this for their country?

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      • sixpack says:

        “Where is the patriot within the govt”???

        They’ve all been PURGED, of course. The rest are scared of the NSA.

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    25. TheGuy says:

      It’s as if they know it’s coming?

      Not necessarily… in contingency planning, if an event has a low probability of occurring, but the CONSEQUENCES of said event would be catastrophic… you plan for it anyway.

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    26. River Rat says:

      I’ll take my rural county as an example; we have at the top 25 total Law Enforcement that’s all towns and county. Now how long do you think 25 LE will last? Even if its 250 or 1000 not long if they get involved, no they will not get involved they will just go home like any sane person would do. It boils down to numbers, boots on the ground and the way I see it they are not there. Some will say the National Guard, we have a Company in my county but 75% do not live in it, so they will have to drive several miles to reach the Armory no way they will stay home also. Again it boots on the ground in most of the counties in the states and they are not there. My thoughts from the river bank.

      River Rat at the ready!!!

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      • Anonymous says:

        River Rat- do you live in the mountains?

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      • Socrates says:

        @River Rat

        I agree to an extent with your ‘boots on the ground’ analysis. The big thing people are missing however is this- TPTB do NOT have to worry about controlling millions of pissed off, hungry, dazed, etc. people…ONLY the ones that survive what it is to come.

        Much, much easier to round up and control small amounts of people in many areas than massive amounts of people in several areas. Hate to say it, but- the ‘die-off’ is coming. Again, that’s why they have all those extra large FEMA coffins…they already plan on using them.

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    27. Satori says:

      “What is disturbing is that no one is calling Obama out on this.”

      Jorge Ramos: Reporters ‘Cozy with Power,’ Act Like They’re in a Club

      http://www.mediaite.com/online/jorge-ramos-reporters-cozy-with-power-act-like-theyre-in-a-club/

      could this be why?
      and over 90% of media outlets are now owned by a half dozen corporations

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    28. Kulafarmer says:

      I guess this could go two ways,
      If there are huge riots in the cities because EBT stops etc (SHTF) i would rather somebody do something about it before it affects me or others who are snug in their hidey hole.
      On the other hand it could be used as a political tool.
      But thats where that Oathkeepers thing comes into play.
      Eyes wide open

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    29. watching and waiting says:

      I would guess that is why some people prepp, yes?

      To not to be on the streets during a civil disturbance when the economy crashes and SNAP shuts down, disability payments shuts down, stock market and banks shut down, no more free cell phone to sell for drugs and etc……

      Stay home. Because on the streets you could be in an enriched target environment.

      Could be just like the Bosnian war in 1992…..

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    30. Rubicon says:

      Even General Patton rode down civilians in DC. Just saying…

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      • sixpack says:

        Aren’t generals considered “great” because they’ve caused more death and destruction than the rest? Isn’t that the measure of “greatness” in all wars?

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        • Rubicon says:

          Yes this is true. However, the point is that posse comitatus was in effect, and Patton did this in 1932, he wasn’t even a General yet. He was following orders, even if he thought it was distasteful. Look at Kent state, Waco… This list goes on and on.

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          • sixpack says:

            Yes, I know you’re right. I guess what I was trying to get at, was that those people we tend to idolize as “war heroes”, like Patton, are idolized for the amount of death and destruction they caused to the enemy. In war, that’s how you “win.”

            Therefore it follows that people like Patton could / would be every bit as ruthless OFF the battlefield. Patton followed orders to destroy, mercilessly, everything in this path during the war; why would anyone think he would discern any difference between one order and the next? After all—a target is a target.

            Another example would be General Sherman’s March to the Sea during the Civil war. History has hailed Sherman as “hero”, for the total annihilation of everything in his path…but is that really all a “hero” is?

            I guess the difference between Smedley Butler and George Patton is simply that, Butler saw truth and reality, while Patton only saw “orders”…couldn’t you agree?

            I’m afraid I have a rather dim view of Patton, and people like him.

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    31. hammerhead says:

      JUST my opinion here , but it sure looks as if the next decade will see the rise of socialism in the US .
      All hells gonna break loose at some point when folks finally realize what the hell is goin on .

      Off topic , but i just learned that michigan restricts private citizens from produceing more than 20kw a monthon a private solar/wind system.
      Thats Agenda 21 rearing its head again .

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      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        Hammer,build all the solar/other alt energy you want,tough to track.Of course,go home made and never/ever grid tie!Do all you can in your situation to get off of the grid,realize some folks can’t do much the energy end but can certainly in house garden and learn other skills that help em keep off of the corporate tit.

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      • Anonymous says:

        In Europe, the people are going bezerk– rioting, demanding the end of the EU- they realize, perhaps too late, that they’ve been duped. The centralization of power (formation of the EU) was to their detriment and to the benefit of the few oligarths at the top who stole all the peoples’ assets… hell, I read they’re even selling off the beaches in Greece to the elites..(already sold off the Parthenon!)

        The weird thing is, Banksters did the exact same thing in the Soviet Union before it collapsed– sold off public utilities, everything that was supposed to belong to the public- revenue from diamonds, gas, you name it– all went to the Banksters and corrupt polticians… and millions of regular citizens died of starvation!

        Now, you may think this will never happen here– think again! Its already occuring! Bankrupt cities like Detroit are going through the same thing! Public parks and public utilities sold off to the highest bidder– to people at the top. And Obummer has made this a poster child of things to come for the rest of us… even the water dept and electric companies are up for bid.

        The question is when does the big die off occur, as happened in Soviet Union? or- should we riot and take our country back before they start selling off the Statute of Liberty or afterwards? Russians didn’t act in time. Don’t know about Europeans.

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        • sixpack says:

          I would imagine that a riot or two, here and there would be much easier to quell, than THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD RIOTING, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

          I personally think that that is exactly what needs to happen. Everyone, world-wide needs to throw down all at once, in every language, color and religion.

          Drag ALL of those elite bastards out by the heels, and start stringing them up in town squares everywhere. Repatriate those stolen assets back to the people of all countries.

          Form new governments by the people, and NOT A BILLIONAIRE IN THE BUNCH. I would go as far as to put a cap on the assets any govt official can hold. “Politician” would no longer be a job description…

          …and then I woke up.

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        • @ Anonymous

          Guess who made the selling off of America possible?

          George H.W. Bush by EO 12803 in 1992. “Infrastructure Privatization” he called it. Selling off the “commons” that your taxes paid for to corporations who then profit from it.

          I swear that the Bush gang from Prescott to Jeb have done more to wreck this country than any other mafia gov family in history.

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    32. lena says:

      All this is, is conditioning.

      The elite has all but eliminated any vertical movement by the people securing their place on top.

      as long as you take your peice of cheese with gratitude, you’re fine.

      the usa has made it full circle where the ruling class is now the be all and end all of every person’s life as it was from the countries they left from.

      things like this are just ready to quell anyone resisting when it becomes evident to them their freedoms are gone.

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    33. slingshot says:

      Got your Web Gear Ready?

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    34. Barn Cat says:

      They’re preparing for the collapse of the dollar and the chaos that will follow. The government is doing all it can to get more and more people dependent on them so they can have people lined up to get on the FEMA camp busses.

      It seems hard to believe that the government is planning and preparing for the extermination of most US citizens. It makes you wonder how we got here.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Thats the thing is i dont think TPTB are that sharp,
        You could look at this as a prepare for the worst hope for the best kind of scenario.
        Possible it is outright tyranny but….
        Look at the big cities with huge issues, in decent times they are bordering on out of control,
        Look at what happened with hurricane Katrina, now multiply that by 100 or so,
        Anyway, im going to hope that this is all a prudent move to assure they can keep some sort of order in the event of a huge event, but be ready for anything.

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        • slingshot says:

          Kulafarmer.

          TPTB may not be sharp but have quick reflexes.

          George Bush. Two shoes.
          H. Clinton. One shoe.

          I would loved to see more shoes thrown as an insult. I like to see them dodge and that look on their face afterwards.
          Priceless. Hahahahaha!

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        • Jimb says:

          Get a grip. Did the HARP cause the dust bowl and droughts back in the 30′s? did HARP cause the 7 year drought in Egypt during Pharaoh times. Droughts have happened since forever, Why do you think HARP is causing this??????????

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      • Anonymous says:

        Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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    35. oUCH says:

      Don’t start nuttin, won’t be nuttin.. oops… too late.

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    36. slingshot says:

      Talking to others.

      Like Barn Cat I have had my fill of trying to get people motivated to do something. Even if it is for bad weather. My wife complains that I help too much and many do not appreciate my help.

      There are those who have nothing.
      Those who will have something.
      Those who will try to take what they need.

      First it will be Local Law Enforcement.
      Backed up by State Troopers.
      Special Alphabet Soup agencies enter the field.
      National Guard call out.
      Regular Military /Martial Law
      United Nations troops enter the picture.

      How fast is the escalation between levels of enactment?
      What each level contains. Searches, Confiscation, Internment shut down, Check Points, No Newspapers or Magazines,Freezing of your money.

      Contemplate a few million jerk offs that can not handle a hang nail in a social upheaval.

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    37. RICH99 says:

      You know what I’m gonna say ……this is a recycled article from years ago but the title is different

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    38. aljamo says:

      The government and it’s military and alphabet agencies are trying to scare we the people. They are in a feverish pitch hurry to enact total tyranny at the bequest of the filthy wealthy who already own most everything. They see what the growing pissed off reaction is coming from the common people. If we are against them they will attempt to murder us all. They don’t give two shits what we think or our lives. They are terrorists of the highest order. Million’s of nonviolent protesters being abused will wake up the doubter’s and non believers in the level of government savagery and draw in ten’s of milllion’s more. They will attempt to provoke gunfire from the people by false flag brutality and murder. They will defend their hideous evil as justice. It’s an ugly display on the horizon. The people have remained complacent for too long, we will see how much determination for justice remains in the people’s actions.

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    39. Oh Boy says:

      The whole world is about to change, even if the military doesn’t intervene, something big is going down, and most everyone, including the really rich and powerful have got to be worried.
      You guys are all talking about your own military turning on you, and not looking at how the next step is actually going to unfold. Your brother in the army will not be holding a gun to your head, that’s just ridiculous… he’ll be called overseas for a seemingly important war, and the armies of chosen American allies will be the ones facing the US citizens. The same way your armies have been barging in on helpless citizens around the world in the past way too long, (I’m not against american civilians, just stating the facts)is the same way that another country’s armies will be easy to command to fuck up your reality. Any military of any nation is brainwashed to believe that they are doing is all for good reasons… that isn’t about to change tomorrow… it’s too much of a long shot to turn your own military on your own people and hope for good results… unless of course the goal is to destroy as many people, civilian or military as possible.

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    40. Confederate says:

      What if we all went nuts and started shooting those in charge? What then?

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Thats 4th gen warfare

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      • Truth avenger says:

        A NEW beginning. OUR primary problem at the point on the TIMELINE is that WE, as a collective FEAR/AND OR depend on the current SYSTEM.

        NO CHANGE can occur without the transference of this paradigm. Until THEY truly FEAR US and WE no longer depend on THEM for anything, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

        Voting is a JOKE, writing letters to your NON-REPESENTATIVE is a useless waste of time, and “peaceful demonstrations” are laughable. The time to lock-n-load and stand your ground is NOW! First blood is coming. VERY SOON.

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    41. Satori says:

      it is a well established fact
      that out of control food price increases=civil disorder

      World Bank sounds alarm on rising global food prices

      https://uk.news.yahoo.com/world-bank-sounds-alarm-rising-202850180.html#2rQ5iu2

      US Food Inflation Running at 22%

      http://www.blacklistednews.com/US_Food_Inflation_Running_at_22%25/35581/0/0/0/Y/M.html

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    42. Satori says:

      IT DOESN’T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO SEE MOST COLLEGE DEGREES WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE ROI

      http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/05/29/it-doesnt-take-a-rocket-scientist-to-see-most-college-degrees-will-have-a-negative-roi/

      the future for the kids of today
      is gonna be far far different
      and I don’t mean that in a good way

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    43. Satori says:

      well now we’ve done it

      the whole world is mad at us !

      U.S. State Department Warns No U.S. Citizen Safe “Throughout the World”

      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38628.htm

      blow back
      it’s a bitch

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    44. Satori says:

      Back in the Red

      http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38638.htm

      ““Foreigners are buying about $10 billion a month of Treasuries. This compares with deficit financing needs for the U.S. government of roughly $40 billion a month, based on this year’s deficit.”

      “Of course, the members of the Fed know that this whole “cheap money” thing is bogus, but they keep reiterating the same blather so they can keep the wampum flowing to their crooked friends on Wall Street. It’s worth noting that: since the end of the recession, “one-third of all income increases in this country went to just 16,000 households, 95 percent of it went to the top 1 percent, and the bottom 90 percent’s incomes fell, and they fell by 15 percent.”

      “In other words, the Fed knows exactly how QE works, (and who benefits) and it has nothing to do with extending credit to working people. That’s malarkey. It’s all about providing limitless liquidity for financial speculators so they can send stocks into the stratosphere and rake in record profits”

      the banksters,Wall Street types and the corrupt government officials who have made this possible,should all be hanging from lamp posts

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    45. slingshot says:

      What awaits us all will be devastating. It will be the “Backlash”. The realization we have been lied to and because of those lies many of our loved ones have died.

      They will not be able to save themselves from the multitudes that will descend upon them.

      Ask yourself, why all the guns and ammo? It’s coming.

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    46. WIprepped says:

      The biggest problem is the majority of the people don’t know what’s going on outside of their sphere. To work, home, and the store, that’s all most know.

      Everyone here talks of the future, but no-one knows the future until it’s history. And history gets re-written to suit tptb so the sheeple in my first paragraph can be controlled.

      Don’t think any governmental body will run home when given orders. They will not. If (and I believe it’s a big if) we can put some fear in the thugs maybe then they will run. Some here say 100m gun owners or the 3% will take them down. It won’t be that way. Most gun owners will give up without a fight to get a meal for their kids! And a lot of these computer tough guys probably don’t have more than a box of ammo for their peashooter anyway.

      I hope the officers,who have been pushed out of the military, and others, like the oathkeepers, will have the guts to stand with us when tshtf.

      I’ll keep my town and with a little help, my county, under control. Can everyone here say the same thing??
      molon labe

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    47. This Texan Has Had Enough says:

      There are still more of us than there are “them”! Hope springs eternal!

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    48. lonelonemum says:

      Here’s a clip from a Northern Irish comedian, a province riven by sectarian violence for far to long.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnH1OkBgTuQ

      Given Obama’s determination to stir up racial tensions in the US, I thought some of you might appreciate a good giggle.

      The Irish experience is one worth studying for preppers elsewhere, given the elites preference for piloting a particular form of misery before rolling it out on a larger scale. (I hope everyone took note when the Cypriots got a fiscal haircut). Living under military rule during The Troubles is something worth taking a look at. It is interesting to note though that unlike the rest of the UK it’s still legal to own a handgun in NI.

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    49. Gonetoolong says:

      How is that the national GDP today was revised down to a NEGATIVE 1% last quarter and the S&P 500 closed at a record high? WTF is going on folks. I scratch my head. Guess I have been wrong all this time. We can live outside of reality indefinitely. WooHoo!

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    50. The Lone Ranger says:

      When and Why will Military Engage Us Civilians?

      A false flag Cyber attack will wipe out [steal] all savings & checking accounts and all pensions. All those funds will go ultimately into the hands of the bilderberg thieves.

      (The sleight of hand trick will actually be a sleight of software trick.)

      Yup, the government will declare war on “whoever did this” but how can they declare war on themselves?

      This will coincide with rising food prices because the HAARP machine wiped out 50% of California’s vegetable and fruit crop.

      With the dollar worthless, and no food to be had, what will the result be?

      Widespread rioting, a declaration of Martial Law, chaos breaking out, and many dead Americans. They didn’t stockpile all those bullets and other ammo for nothing, right?

      So how can you avoid this?

      a. Get your money out of the banks and cash in your pensions/IRAs now.
      b. Immediately finish prepping and then immediately convert the rest to silver.
      c. If that silver is not in your (secured) possession, then you do not own it.

      In short, Multiple pieces of “crap” will hit Multiple fans, so you best stay off the playing (killing) fields. [Oklahoma City, 9/11, the anti-Patriot Act, Hurricane Sandy and more were just warm-ups and test runs, that's how evil/destructive these people are.]

      When it all goes down, or as it goes down, bserve everything carefully. You may need to relocate. And with little or no food, the internet shut down, the grid shut down (or sabotaged), you will need to keep your family and relatives safe, fed, and calm.

      To summarize, to “find out what’s gonna happen”, think like a bilderberger: use one or more false flags to devalue/destroy currency and other things, use HAARP to destroy crops, confiscate guns, put dissenters in FEMA camps.

      But to position yourself to survive: think like a Chess player.

      – the Lone Ranger

      “Violence is that which violates, force is that which protects.” – Rev. Edward J. Brady, S.J.

      “The best wars ever fought ever won were those not even begun.” – Sun Tzu

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    51. Brent H says:

      I would like to request other readers’ opinions of the best HANDGUN (not rifles or shotguns) against JBTs-in-uniforms for use in large scale civil disturbances. Consider the following options:

      10mm in a 1911 frame (Kimber). Low capacity, high penetration, high cost, high accuracy, easy to switch out magazines, difficult to find ammunition except on the internet.

      vs.

      10mm in a Glock 20. High capacity, high penetration, moderate cost, medium accuracy, easy to switch out magazines.

      vs.

      44 magnum. Low capacity, high penetration, moderate cost, high accuracy, slow reloading.

      vs.

      45 ACP. Low capacity, low penetration, moderate cost, high accuracy, fast reloading.

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      • WIprepped says:

        Best not to be involved in any ‘large scale disturbances’ with these options. 10mm is too expensive and when you’re out of ammo, you’re screwed. .44 with ball will go through most anything you need to and .45 will give you a few more shots before someone gets you. If you need a handgun, maybe get a contender with a 45-70 and line them up. That way 1 shot will take out the whole bunch!

        If you can stay away from mass chaos, go with the .44. Load it light for practice and it’s easy to stockpile now cause ammo’s still on the shelf. The west was won with a .44 and a lever gun! And they will still be working after all the autos jam up.
        molon labe

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      • White Fox says:

        A pistol is for close quarters and would not be the ideal choice compared to a long gun in battle if the enemy are using rifles and in their battle gear. but there are times where it could be useful because it’s concealable. Sun Tzu says war is based on deception. Sometimes a Hugo Boss suit and tie is better camouflage than camo and a plate carrier, but there’s a time for that too.

        For a SHTF pistol I always take into consideration cost, reliability, capacity, weight, recoil, practicality, weight of ammo, cost of ammo, availability of ammo (including when shelves are empty) and parts, how well you can shoot and use it, stopping power, easiness to use, concealability, and suitability for nighttime battle. Not the biggest hand cannon, or the most powerful caliber, or the fanciest gun to impress others. I once read an article about SHTF pistols and this guy had the S&W .500 magnum at the top of his list. A 500 Magnum is powerful but it’s cartoonishly huge, ammo is expensive, it’s heavy, and there’s only 5 shots. Even .45 ammo is heavy, think about if you had to be on the move, combined with an all-steel lower capacity gun but not to say there aren’t some advantages of the heavier frame. Seven rounds was a lot back then when infantry rifles were often 4,5,8,10 rounds.

        I like the service pistols because they’re torture tested and battle proven by the military. My top sidearms are:

        -Beretta M9 or 92FS 9mm

        -Sig Sauer P226 9mm

        -Smith Wesson M&P VTAC 9mm

        -Kimber Custom TLE II or TLE II RG .45

        -Heckler Koch HK45, USP, or Mark 23 .45

        -Glock 21SF .45

        Most of them have rail and night sights options, and are high capacity. All 9s and 45s because they’re common calibers, both are military calibers, and as standard ammo for interchangeability in the group.

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      • Socrates says:

        @Brent H

        10mm in a 1911 frame (Kimber). Low capacity, high penetration, high cost, high accuracy, easy to switch out magazines, difficult to find ammunition except on the internet.

        vs.

        10mm in a Glock 20. High capacity, high penetration, moderate cost, medium accuracy, easy to switch out magazines.

        vs.

        44 magnum. Low capacity, high penetration, moderate cost, high accuracy, slow reloading.

        vs.

        45 ACP. Low capacity, low penetration, moderate cost, high accuracy, fast reloading.

        My .02 on your questions.

        10mm is an ‘esoteric’ round. It has lots of power and tends to ‘over-penetrate’. That’s not good in hostage standoffs or tight quarters. The round is extremely pricey and hard to locate. You are better off with a good quality .40S&W with BJHP HST rounds, basically the best you buy. Extreme expansion, retention and knock down power.

        (some video test review here standard HST, not bonded)
        h t tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWy2AB_AQYo

        The .40 S&W bullet itself is basically the same as the 10mm, the shell casing is shortened and powder charge reduced. I used to use a 10mm Colt Delta Elite (1911 frame) and loved it but not the other negatives I mentioned.

        .44 Magnum- Lots of power, recoil and knockdown coupled with availability of rounds. I would look into the Smith & Wesson Model 29 or Stainless 629 versions- both great .44 Mag wheel guns. Don’t worry about lower ammo count…that’s what speed loaders are for.

        .45 ACP. My personal favorite for many reasons. Load a great quality 1911 frame with top of the line BJHP HST rounds and you will dropping sasquatches left and right.
        The particular round I speak of penetrated ballistic gel to 13 inches (that’s a lot) and hits with a 230 gr BJHP that opens up over 1″in dia, while retaining all of it’s weight. Coming out the other side is very, very messy and large.
        (SIMTest Gel shot)
        h t tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW2Y-IZpyE

        (Pork Shoulder Test shot)
        h t tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyfQ6fz-N0Q

        Summary- It really all comes down to what you can afford and what you can do with what you have.

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      • Night Breaker says:

        The best choice will depend on the circumstances,
        Trying to evade and escape in a public chaos situation will sort dictate what defensive arm should be provided , where stealth is a concern a handgun would be the choice for conceal-ability a rifle would stand out and attract to much of the wrong attention. An alternative would be a AR15 ( 16″ barrel) platform disassembled in to two parts at the take pin it can fit in a very compact small pack the only drawback is no immediate use .

        Depending on the speed required to evac and the circumstances I would choose a mid caliber handgun you are not going to engage an armed security team that would be suicidal , think last ditch defense to get you to the treeline , looking like eveyone else in this situation ( NO CAMMO! No web gear visible on a small pack (2500 CI or under) think light ammo good penetration no handgun is going to defeat body armor aim for the hips . .357 is probably the best choice you can also use .38 special in the same handgun the ammo is popular and available. The round is accurate and light and available in many platforms. The OSS in Europe used primarily hand guns and edged weapons for “Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap” behind the lines and just melted away into the populace. With a handgun you can also later get another more suitable arm from those that no longer require them. If stealth is required this is probably the best choice .

        If it is a full out grinder firefight situation I would go all out , pack , web belt kit , plate carrier, MBR and as much ammo as needed ( perferable in a domestic caliber) stealth rules still apply , do not go looking for an engagement , fight only on your own terms.

        You should at this point have a medium pack, sleeping/ shelter gear , plate carrier , provisions , water filters , etc and a battle belt suspender system or FLC set up with your 1st line gear . And a suitable MBR ( Main battle rifle , PTR91, M1A, AR 15 , ETC.) and are training to use them , you should be using the contents of your packs and shelter equipment to gain experience. Try a bushcraft weekend
        Set up a concealed expediant camp ( tarp tent etc) use your gear and evaluate its effectiveness.

        I am partial to KIFARU and Tactical Tailor products do not skimp on your gear get the best you can afford and USE IT before SHTF occurs.
        Even if nothing occurs ( fat chance of that happening ) at least you have the satisfaction of learning and knowing how to survive in the worst circumstance and a greater appreciation of what you now have.

        RESIST

        Semper Fi 8541

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        I personally like the old standby 1911 in 45ACP
        But im a farmer, not a gunfighter,
        Evade is better if possible, if the Jack boots are stomppin ill be somewhere else!
        Know a few places with lots of fresh water, wild fruits, and access to both shoreline food gathering and fishing and wild game,
        Thinking being free and making do is better than having my home searched and potentially being detained or forced to work the farm for the benefit of society,
        Either way there are definite down sides, am just glad i dont live in the contiguous 48, nor where it freezes half the year!

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    52. aStupidWorker says:

      has ANYONE BEEN NOTICING THAT THE WELFARE SYSTEM IN THE USA IS COSTING $3.2 BILLION DOLLARS EACH AND EVERY DAY, AND MORE THAN HALF OF THAT IS BEING PAID FOR USING BORROWED MONEY CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR.

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    53. Gonetoolong says:

      Of your choices I would go with 45 ACP. If my choice I would go 18 rds of Gold Dot 9mm in a SIG P226. Accurate as hell, low recoil for follow up shots, great ergos, ammo ubiquitous, high capacity, decent lethality with good shot placement and modern bullets.

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    54. 300lb Gorilla says:

      Psalm 18

      31For who is God, but the Lord?
      And who is a rock, except our God?—
      32the God who equipped me with strength
      and made my way blameless.
      33He made my feet like the feet of a deer
      and set me secure on the heights.
      34He trains my hands for war,
      so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.
      35You have given me the shield of your salvation,
      and your right hand supported me,
      and your gentleness made me great.
      36You gave a wide place for my steps under me,
      and my feet did not slip.
      37I pursued my enemies and overtook them,
      and did not turn back till they were consumed.
      38I thrust them through, so that they were not able to rise;
      they fell under my feet.
      39For you equipped me with strength for the battle;
      you made those who rise against me sink under me.
      40You made my enemies turn their backs to me,e
      and those who hated me I destroyed.
      41They cried for help, but there was none to save;
      they cried to the Lord, but he did not answer them.
      42I beat them fine as dust before the wind;
      I cast them out like the mire of the streets.

      43You delivered me from strife with the people;
      you made me the head of the nations;
      people whom I had not known served me.
      44As soon as they heard of me they obeyed me;
      foreigners came cringing to me.
      45Foreigners lost heart
      and came trembling out of their fortresses.

      Just say’n…

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    55. Satori says:

      Shale EROEI Failing

      http://peakoil.com/production/shale-eroei-failing

      “Furthermore, independent producers will spend $1.50 on drilling this year for every dollar in return, Bloomberg noted in February. Producers will have to drill 2,500 new wells a year just to sustain output of 1 million barrels per day in the Bakken, according to International Energy Agency.”

      as energy goes
      so goes the economy
      or should I say what is left of it
      the news just keeps getting worse

      when energy goes BOOM
      the economy will follow in short order

      anybody or any country that hung their hat on shale
      is gonna get burned bad

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    56. McFrolie says:

      This is old news. If it was hatched in/on/around Dec. 29, 2010 they are way beyond it now. And, way beyond the armchair patriot.

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    57. aljamo says:

      My 5:27pm comment is awaiting moderation for 6 hours now, you should go ahead and delete it. That’s fine with me. Delete this one also. Have a nice night.

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    58. southside says:

      How depressing this all is

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    59. arizona dude says:

      look up the TLO’s in your local leo agencies they have been assigned to report all “suspicious” activitity to the fusion centers. type in TLO and the name of the agency

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      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        And as with politicians get and put on net all their personal info. and addresses,am sure their are patriotic hackers out there,bless them nerds!

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    60. Logicrazy says:

      Time to trim some concrete nails, epoxy and hollow points, sure the bullet stops, but those tips from concrete nails go through…. I shot through 3/8 a36 plate with my .45 acp at 30 yards. Hilte concrete nails…..

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    61. spain says:

      Despues de leer cierto tiempo esta pagina creo que la mayoria de los americanos estais un poco desequilibrados,
      como pretendeis que vuestro propio ejercito este en contra de su pueblo, no será que estais viendo demasiadas peliculas
      de ciencia ficción?.

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    62. Ben Dhere says:

      Several posters mention the “U.S.government” purchasing large amounts of ammunition. Now I’m just guessing, but those level of purchases could look like ammo dumps for invading troops, likely from a country that thinks they own the U.S. due to the “U.S. government” selling State territory to cover the debt based monetary system of the banksters. States need to take back all property the U.S. government claims to own, except for NEEDFUL things like office buildings, arsenal storage, like what it says in the Constitution.

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    63. posseecom says:

      Now we that we all know how well equipped they are in every technological and armed aspect, strategies,implementation,threat fusion centers in every state,militarized police, etc etc etc..

      The question is ..

      what will be the ignition switch?

      possee

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    64. Lance says:

      I’m sure Obama considers angry taxpayers heading to their polling locations to vote against his regimen a necessary reason to deploy.

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    65. Jack Hammer says:

      If you are not ready for this then GET READY! Time is of the essence!

      Lock and Load!

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    66. Sgt. Dale says:

      If it happens and or when it happens, so be it!
      Just remember it only took 3% to fight and win the Revolution!
      When the second dark age comes I just hope I remember everything I read and or was taught.
      A.S.M.S.

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    67. Be informed says:

      There has just been two precursor earthquakes on different spots on the Antarctic/Pacific Ridge. In the past both of these areas have lead to an earthquake of at least 6.5 within 15 days, most of them above 7. In 2005 one of these exact spots were hit and an 8.7 occur in northern Sumatra. Based on the previous precursor quakes, at least a 7 is coming and there is a good chance of an 8 or 9 pointer coming by June 15. Watch these spots as one of more that are the most likely to get nailed:

      Austrailian plate from Pakistan to Tonga. 7.0-9+, Especially watch Indonesia, New Guniea, Philippines, Taiwan, Loyalty Islands/Soloman Islands, China

      Alaska MOST, watch Andrenof Islands and other Aleutian Islands chain. 7.5-9+

      Mexico, south of 20 degrees north is most likely the danger area. 6.8-7.8

      Central America. Most likely countries Guatemala or Costa Rica. 7.0-7.7

      Nazca plate. From Panama to Chile. Hottest zone would be Coulmbia, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil. 6.7-8+

      Japan, Kuril Ialands, Kamachakta Peninsula. Low 7 to upper 8 range.

      Fiji, Kermandec Islands, and New Zealand. 6.7-8.1
      ————————————————

      Moderate warning, much less likely.

      Southern Califonia mid 6 to low 7 range
      Cascadia fault full break.
      Northern Mexico 6.8-7.5
      Iran or Turkey 7-7.9
      Caribbean plate, especially Dominican Republic and Lesser Antillies Islands 6.8-7.6
      Italy 6.5-7.1

      The past 6 precursor earthquakes are all pointing to something much larger than most of the major earthquakes. The likelihood of such an earthquake(s) has gone up from 80-85% to 90-95% with these two latest quakes.

      While a mammouth earthquake in another area of the world might not seem to affect the U.S. an earthquake like almost a hundred years ago in Toyko would be a calamity to the world stocks. A super mega quake in the Aleutian Islands, something like the Chile quake of 1960 that was a 9.5 would send large tsunami waves from Mexico to Alaska. California coastline from such a quake based on the contours of the coast could reach in the 30 foot range. Hawaii would be hit by waves that could get as high as 50 feet. The Aleutian Islands are one of about 5 areas in the world that an earthquake can be in the mid to even high 9 magnitude. Could be decades away, but it is overdue by previous tsunami destruction records.

      6 precursor earthquakes saying larger this time are warning. One or two more of these and the chance will reach near 100% of a very large earthquake coming.

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    68. This Texan Has Had Enough says:

      Thanks BI. The news is not good, but we need to be informed.

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    69. Kevin DG says:

      Just how much more are we going to take? How much longer does all this BullSh*$ going to continue? I hope no longer than 2018. The final 3-1/2 years has to be starting soon!

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    70. jimbow says:

      it not the first time the US  military has been used to against US people. The 1st Pres. led the military to stop the whiskey rebellion over the whiskey tax (I wounder if he had that big whiskey distillery at the time?, also coal miners were bombed by the US military when they were on strike.  But the next time maybe after Berry (do anything right) Obama declares Marshall law so it could be bad (if he dose).

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    71. 10mm says:

      They are allowing the illegals to serve in military contingent on becoming a citizen. Do what your told, OR ELSE.

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    72. Anonymous says:

      18% of our male population, ages 25 to 54, have NO work.

      But the illegal aliens being dumped by the busload in Arizona this weekend because they are overflowing the ICE facilities in Texas say only that they are coming here TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Need I say more?

      This crap MUST stop.

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    73. Kizichka says:

      Sheriff Buelton: General, I am a local civilian authority. And I am hereby making a formal request of the military to do everything in its power to assist and aid me-
      MG Hubik: Posse Comitatus, Sheriff.
      Sheriff Buelton: [Stops, startled] Did you call me a pussy communist?
      MG Hubik: The U.S. Army is, by act of Congress- the Posse Comitatus Act- specifically precluded from enforcing civilian law outside the reservation.
      Sheriff Buelton: Pussy communist?
      MG Hubik: That means I do not have the authority to provide you with a singe piece of military personnel or equipment without a direct order from my superior or the President of the United States! I can give you his address if you’d like.
      Tank-1984 James Garner.

      I Guess Those Days Are Gone!!!

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