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    Mark Levin: Government Is “Simulating the Collapse of Our Financial System, the Collapse of Our Society and the Potential for Widespread Violence”

    Mac Slavo
    March 8th, 2013
    SHTFplan.com
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    Along with Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, leading conservative radio host Mark Levin reaches tens of millions of listeners weekly, and what he talked about recently on his nationally syndicated show has sent shivers down the spines of many of them.

    A few years ago this was fringe theory, restricted only to the sphere of alternative (conspiracy) news.

    Warnings of a massive economic collapse, government stockpiling of weaponry, and the idea that Americans could be broadly classified as terrorists and then detained indefinitely or killed often fell upon deaf ears.

    Today, as more information ‘leaks’ into the mainstream, it is no longer just conspiracy theory. We now have some of the most influential journalists and commentators in the country alerting Americans to the possibility that everything the government has been preparing for the last several years may soon be realized.

    I’m going to tell you what I think is going on.

    I don’t think domestic insurrection. Law enforcement and national security agencies, they play out multiple scenarios. They simulate multiple scenarios.

    I’ll tell you what I think they’re simulating.

    The collapse of our financial system, the collapse of our society and the potential for widespread violence, looting, killing in the streets, because that’s what happens when an economy collapses.

    I’m not talking about a recession. I’m talking about a collapse, when people are desperate, when they can’t get food or clothing, when they have no way of going from place to place, when they can’t protect themselves.

    There aren’t enough police officers on the face of the earth to adequately handle a situation like that.

    I suspect, that just in case our fiscal situation collapses, our monetary situation collapses, and following it the civil society collapses – that is the rule of law – that they want to be prepared.

    There is no other explanation for this.

    Sourced via Red Flag News

    The Pentagon and military have been war-gaming large-scale economic collapse and civil unrest for nearly four years. Those within our government who understand the ramifications a massive breakdown in our systems of commerce, transportation and justice are preparing by stockpiling weapons and ammo, tens of millions of food rations, and even emergency shelters. They are spending hundreds of billions of dollars on continuity of government programs and exercises, preparing for what they know is coming.

    Now why would the government be doing this if there wasn’t a reasonable chance that such events could come to pass?

    We’ve urged our readers to prepare a well thought out contingency plan for the very scenarios our government is spending your hard earned tax dollars on.

    The government may be stockpiling and preparing, but understand that none of these emergency supplies are reserved for you and your family. Only essential personnel involved directly with government operations will have access to these critical survival supplies.

    So you’d better have your own reserves. For those who fail to prepare, it will be horrific.

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    1. WARFACE says:

      Obama is simulating being a leader. Congress doesn’t even bother to simulate having even one pair of balls!

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      • KY Mom says:

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        • Kindle says:

          KY Mom,
          The best book I have ever read on the potential reality of drone use on civilians is Matthew Brackens, Foreign Enemies and traitors; The Greater Depression and Civil War 2. In the book the PTB use drones to kill civilians who “look like they may be carrying a gun.”

          It definetely opened my eyes to the eyes in the sky.

          Some good news to report..sort of…I was at Gander Mountain yesterday and was at the handgun counter drooling over some other toys I would love to have. The guy to my right was talking to the clerk about a handgun for his grandma and the guy to left was looking for one for his girlfriend. Two other guys were listening in.

          The one to the left was looking at the Ruger LC9 380 and I couldn’t help but look at him and shake my head no. The other guy was looking at a 1911 45 for his girlfriend…again I shook my head no.

          Before I knew it I was educating 4 guys on the needs of women when it comes to a handgun and showing them the various things “we” would be looking for. My loudest advice was for them to not just buy a handgun for a female but to bring her in and have her go through them.

          It was kinda funny, but I really began noting the difference in men and women when it comes to handguns. It was good to see so many looking to arm the women in their lives. Needless-to-say, our conversation evolved to the state of affairs in the world and America.

          Good to see so many waking up and taking action….now if they can just find some ammo for those new tools.

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          • hammerhead says:

            kindle – i made the mistake of picking a firearm out for my wife , so now i have an “extra” gun in the safe. LOL

            you are exactly right , she found her own , and its all good . we men learn the hard way !hahaha

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            • Kindle says:

              hammerhead,
              One of the things I have noticed is that the firearm you are trying out at the gun range is not necessarily the same as a new version of it.

              When I was testing some loaners at the gun range I fell in love with a Glock. Went to the store to buy a new one and couldn’t even pull the slide back or work the releases without difficulty.

              The loaners at the gun range were nice and broke in whereas the new ones needed breaking in. Big difference.

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              • Cede or Bleed says:

                Glock 26 for the “little woman” in your life. Not so good, if you’ve got bigger hands though.

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                • Gods Creation says:

                  “””Why would the government be spending hundreds of billions of dollars to prepare if there wasn’t a reasonable chance that such events could come to pass?”””

                  How would the corp know a collapse was coming if it had not caused it to happen?

                  The hundreds of billions is for the protection of those who caused it, from those who have been victimized by it, in hopes of “getting away with it” unharmed.

                  They WILL NOT.

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                • Maximus Max says:

                  Bersa Thunder .380 out of Argentina. Good features including safety, around $350 won’t break the bank, easily concealable, shoots like a dream. Makes a great first gun for anyone to carry concealed.

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              • Bane says:

                Take a few hundred round for new guns to break in.

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          • Well said KY Mom. There’s a lot of truth to the expression, “It’s not paranoia, if they’re really out to get you.” Especially in the here and now.

            What was cited a ridiculous fiction 5 years ago is turning out to be fact today. When I hear politicians say one thing, I believe the exact opposite.

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            • KY Mom says:

              YH,

              We certainly live in unusual times…

              CIA Brennan takes oath on draft Constitution — without Bill of Rights

              “Director Brennan was sworn in with his hand on an original DRAFT of the Constitution that had George Washington’s personal handwriting and annotations on it, dating from 1787.”

              Earnest said Brennan had asked for a document from the National Archives that would demonstrate the U.S. is a nation of laws.

              “Director Brennan told the president that he made the request to the archives because he wanted to reaffirm his commitment to the rule of law as he took the oath of office as director of the CIA,” Earnest said.

              The Constitution itself went into effect in 1789. But, … what was missing from the Constitution in 1787 is also quite symbolic: The Bill of Rights, which did not officially go into effect until December 1791 after ratification by states.

              That means: No freedom of speech and of the press, no right to bear arms, no Fourth Amendment ban on “unreasonable searches and seizures,” and no right to a jury trial.

              How … symbolic?”

              Posted on Drudge Report

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            • JustMe says:

              We tried to warn everyone 20 years ago…

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              • 41MagMan says:

                Yep but we were called “tin hat wearers” and “conspiracy nuts” for our efforts. I can well imagine some sheep-like American colonists saying that about Paul Revere as he rode past yelling, “The British are coming!”. Times change quickly but people change slowly, if at all.

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            • Gregory8 says:

              God’s Creation: Some would say that your analysis was paranoid, but others including myself, would say that’s quite insightful. All departments are given an annual budget based on last year’s expenditures with some very minor tweeking for this year’s anticipated increases and decreases in various areas. But when all federal enforcement agencies have massive (unprecidented) increases in ammo purchases at the same time, one has to ask themself why. This is far more than just a coincident. They either knew something, or at the very least, were anticipating something; such as an ammo shortage. Something wicked this way comes I fear.

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              • 41MagMan says:

                I agree, Greg. In fact, the entire ammo “shortage” looks like a trumped up steaming pile to me. I can see where massive government buying of .223 and .40 ammo would cause shortages in those calibers, but WTH does this have to do with .22, AK, and 12-ga. ammo that is not being bought by the Gov? These are manufactured in the billions of rounds, yet EVERY store out there that sells ammo has little to no ammo. I call BS on this entire “shortage” nonsense. Something else is at work here. I don’t know what it is but this is not just demand causing all these shortages.

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            • Saw a bumper sticker that said, “Don’t believe anything until it is officially denied.”

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              • 41MagMan says:

                That’s a good one. Thanks for posting.

                My favorite bumper sticker read:

                “If you think that health care is expensive now, just wait ’till it’s free!”

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                • StillStanding says:

                  Sure! IF ONLY we weren’t taxed enough to provide quality medical care, solid infrastructure, and good education for EVERYONE … if *everyone* paid their share of taxes, and there were not INSANE profits built into the health care system. Any doubts? Read Stephen Brill TIME article “Bitter Pill”.

                  By far, the biggest chunk of the GDP goes to “defense” of the wealthy, powerful and corporations. Oh, why do I waste my time? Most don’r know, and the rest don’t care…yet.

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            • joshua cooper says:

              many people brush this off as paranoia and a small portion of americans can honestly say that i have a gut feeling this shit is really gonna happen and pretty fucking soon.how do i preparefor something that is gonna happen at a moments notice and still get me and my family safely away from the frontline how and were arethe safe places do we hang out on riverbanks or mountains or caves and if so what is the plan of the existing people

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          • godsofold says:

            And their newest creation that can stay airborne for 4 days.

            http://www.boeing.com/Features/2013/02/bds_phantom_eye_02_26_13.html#.US4Lmqd5Fb4.facebook

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            • Ryback says:

              They most likely have a silenced sniper system for a drone. It would have to come down below a half mile of altitude to be in proper range, and you should be able to hear it then, sounds like a fly buzzing in your ear intermittently, train yourself to listen for it, it will sound like a small plane like a piper cub or smaller. I dont think they can snipe at 20 or 30 thousand feet even with a fifty. They would be able to take somebody out and blame it on a gang drive by. The optics and thermal is state of the art tech, the weapon will probably be set up with three round burst, they dont want to miss. Learn to defeat thermal……….Stay Frosty Watch Ur Six

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              • Tucker says:

                Listen up, Kwans. Here is tip that will save your life and if you are smart, you’ll heed it.

                Wean yourself and every one of your family members off of cell phones. That’s right. Throw these gadgets in the dumpster. They will get you killed.

                Over in the Middle East, these predator drones are being used to target people on the ground, right? Well, guess how the jackbooted thug geek monsters in our despicably evil neo-con controlled military are locating these humans on the ground who they want to kill with a drone missile? They are tracking them by triangulating their cellular phone signals, which can be used to pinpoint their exact location. That’s right. When some goat herder decides to use his cell phone to call for a pizza, bingo, ZOG and their GPS satellites know within seconds his exact location and that data is funneled into the computer console operator’s targeting acquisition menu. One click of the mouse, and scratch another goat herder. Oh, and the newer cell phones don’t even have to be turned on – they emit a constant GPS trackable roam signal which pings for the nearest cellular towers.

                Wean yourself off using cell phones, folks. Consider this a top priority. And, if you are hanging around with fellow prepper friends – and they are packing a cell phone, that could also get you killed.

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                • Rick:) says:

                  Most of us would probably choose death. You can’t go cold turkey on the cell phone drug. Not going to happen. Now, shtf, pull the battery. Probably won’t work for long anyhow.

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                • Barry says:

                  For God’s sake… Even if a shtf event did happen, you really think you’ll become a target for extermination simply for being a prepper or hanging out with them? Dude, switch to decaf.

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                • 41MagMan says:

                  ‘Oh, and the newer cell phones don’t even have to be turned on – they emit a constant GPS trackable roam signal which pings for the nearest cellular towers.”

                  So wrap it in foil so that it cannot send anything when it is off. Hmmm… foil cell phone pouch, anyone?

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          • Live free or die says:

            Since Homeland Security is buying and hoarding weapons and ammo then you better too. Since Homeland Security is hoarding food then you better too. Since Homeland Security is not telling anyone why they are hoarding these things then you better not either.

            Stock up, and whatever you see Homeland Security doing then you do it too. They have emergency shelters, code word for,(fema trailers to be put in fema camps), so you better make your home a safe shelter with a protected perimeter just like fema will have.

            The pres. has underground bunkers beneath the white house, so why is it that if a prepper has an underground bunker then he is a psycho? I guess homeland security, the pres., all the government elites and all the dictators in the world are really just extreme preppers who are special.

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            • Fed up with feds says:

              Speaking of homeland security, doesn’t anyone on this site know anyone associated with homeland,FEMA,Tsa, cops or any military personnel with the guts to speak up. Someone knows what the hell is going on! Ask questions ,press them for any info,no matter how small.

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              • Anonymous says:

                I was making an inquiry about the new Fusion Center that was built. My neighbor is retired military now working for DHS. Said his son was going to work for DHS too when he graduates college. Point blank told me better to be the one throwing people in FEMA camps than be the one getting thrown in. That is a true encounter. The guy is a weasel and it came as no surprise.

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                • richard to anon;
                  you know him, his family, where he lives and his plan. make sure others know also. G.I. Joe says, “now you know, and knowing is half the battle.” yep! everything I learned, I learned from G.I. Joe.

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                • Gregory 8,go to the commonsenceshow.com and take a look,that ammo the government is buying is to kill women,children,old people and VETERANS who refuse to hand over their weapons,to a bunch of government terrorists…………lots of great photos of the latest target practice sheets,of WHO they plan to encounter while searching for weapons,YOUR FAMILY,after looking at these remember,the very people who america has been kissing ass on for a hundred years,NOW is planning to blow out your families brains to get your weapons…………..

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                • figment says:

                  there is never any loss for finding people who will man the concentration camp machine guns.

                  sad, but human nature.

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                • barterman says:

                  A lt of young people think that way!

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              • CENTURY12 says:

                A SWAT Team Cop and a Defense Contractor I know both recently sold their suburban homes and moved out to the country. Lifelong suburbanites, their new hobbies are vegetable gardening and chickens. One of them is now preoccupied with and constantly talking “Off the Grid” — for what it’s worth.

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                • Fed up with Feds says:

                  Thank you both, Good stuff. What does that tell you when it comes straight from them?

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                • Gregory8 says:

                  Arizona: What most folks fail to realize is that a large part of DHS are the uniformed folks that were formerly U.S. Customs and Immigration. They can’t be moved very easily because they still have to cover every land border crossing and all international airports and seaports. They could be used to augment the local authorities, some of which are big cities such as Miami, San Diegeo, El Paso, NYC/Newark, etc. That’s just one of the reasons I moved from a big city to a rural, gun loving, county. We’re nearly two hours away from any big city and that’s by a two lane road. No place is perfect but if something does come, we’ll see if from a long way off.

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              • Ready_To_Go says:

                I actually did a job today for a customer who told me he is a retired cop and now works for Homeland Security. I started soft on him, asking him an easy question. Boy, what do you think of this messed up economy and no jobs. I got the usually government employee answer, “Well, the government will get it worked out sooner or later”. Then I hit him with, I hear Homeland Security is really beefing up ammo and such, any idea why? I just got a smirk and shrug. So I figure, his ass is covered, “we” don’t seem to be of any concern to “them”!

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              • joshua cooper says:

                if they did haveguts to speak up have you ever heard that snitches end up in ditches

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              • Shootit says:

                Yes, That is why I posted that the 2700 armored vehicles that DHS is purchasing are slated for the UN. The purchase order say that they are going elsewhere, but I trust my source. It wouldn’t surprise me that they are arming foreign troops on our soil.

                What else would you like me to find out?

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            • Vicky says:

              That’s the argument the members of our small group were making last night. It’s very reminiscent of medieval days when the king locked himself in his castle with OTHER people to defend him, and he sent the immediate royal family away to keep them safe. Ditto on deadly diseases when the court would go on “progress” to avoid the illness, leaving the masses to starve or die where they lay. (a “progress” cost a lot of money, always at the expense of the people living in the path of the royal locusts.) Something nasty is coming down the pike, and I don’t know whether it’s a natural anomaly or government plans. We’re at the point where we are afraid of our government and they aren’t afraid of us, but consider us to be a nuisance or a noxious pest. What you do with noxious pests is to kill them and get them out of your view. Resist!

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            • 41MagMan says:

              Yes, they are special. This is why they all want gun control for us but heavily armed security people all around THEM. Of course, if I was up to no good and doing bad things that are likely to tick people off, I would want lots of protection too.

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          • DungeonMaster says:

            Just buy her a Glock 19 and call it good.

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          • Tucker says:

            It is technically illegal for someone to purchase a firearm with the intent of giving it to someone else. Doing so defeats the intent behind the instant background check, since the actual buyer’s name and info is run through the system and not the name and info of the individual who will eventually take possession of the firearm.

            There is an exception to this rule, and it involves using a private sale/purchase option, as opposed to going to a FFL dealer. The private sale issue varies by state, so I would recommend that each individual do the proper research ahead of time, so as to not inadvertently violate any local laws.

            For the record, I am steadfastly opposed to any law or legislation that would prohibit private sales between responsible individuals. We all should come down very hard on any greasy politician who tries to ban or force private sellers to submit to a background check, because the #1 reason why rats like the despicably evil Chuck Schumer wants these kinds of laws is to help his gun grabbing pals create a national database of ALL guns and gun owners, which I promise you – they plan to use to confiscate our firearms.

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            • Gods Creation says:

              “””It is technically illegal for someone to purchase a firearm with the intent of giving it to someone else.”””

              You seem to believe that any gun “regulation” is Law.

              SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED means that ALL corporations that form as governments under the Constitutions are forbidden from REGULATING guns in ANY way.

              It’s not a matter of new gun laws, it is a matter of using the guns we Lawfully own to enforce the ONLY gun Law as it IS ALREADY WRITTEN.

              The corp has ZERO jurisdiction or delegation of power to contemplate a gun law, much less enforce one. Any effort to do so is an act of mixed war against the People.

              It’s time for everyone to understand that these corporations have NO LAW MAKING AUTHORITY concerning guns. Or anything else for that matter. They are privately funded corporations, or governments acting in a private character through the use of privately issued commercial paper.

              You are your own government and regulator, anyone else pretending to be a government official is an enemy. They have declared as much in the Public Record.

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              • Bimbam says:

                You are correct. Any of their gun laws need not be obeyed as it goes against the Constitution which they all SWORE to uphold. Bunch of LIARS.

                Don’t be tricked by liars. Arm yourself, learn to be lethal if your life is threatened. Don’t believe what the liars say.

                Use common sense if you smell a rat.

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              • joshua cooper says:

                i dont care whos name my protection is in it all ends up the same when defending your home,i know the government is going to collapse on the very people who put these lowlives into office

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              • Gregory8 says:

                GC and Bimbam: Tell that to the hundreds of folks locked up in federal prisons for “tehcnical” violations of gunlaws. Many of them had the same idea and they are now convicted felons unable to own a gun ever again once they get out. Congress has great powers given to them by “We the People” in Article 1 of the Constitution. They have both enumerated powers, those clearly defined like taxes and rasing an army, coining money, etc. Then they also have, in the last paragraph of Article 1 Sec. 8,. the “necessary and Proper” clause also know as the ‘elastic clause’. This allows them to do anything they believe is needed to run the government, like creating the various agencies and giving them the authority to create regulations. And that’s exactly what Congress has done to us for over two hundred years. No one has to like it, it just is by virtue of their power under this article. Many of those doing time in prison have protested these regulation as being unconstitutional, but the judges have still sentenced them. You can be right legally and morally and still be wrong technically. What we need is an amendment to this part of the Constitution to severly limit, or even eliminate, this ‘elastic’ clause. Until then, we are all in danger of being violators of the technicalities of the law.

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                • Gods Creation says:

                  Gregory,

                  ALL federal “inmates” are political prisoners who are where they are VOLUNTARILY because they lack knowledge of the Law. The federal corp has no law enforcement jurisdiction in the states against the people.

                  Congress has VERY LIMITED powers, NONE on the land of the states, and “necessary and proper” only extends to federal property physically located in federal territories.

                  If you hire an attorney, you have voluntarily subjected yourself to the foreign commercial jurisdiction of the corp.

                  All those political prisoners are not there because they violated a statute, they are there because they lack knowledge of the Law to PROTECT THEMSELVES and HIRED AN ATTORNEY or allowed one to be appointed against them.

                  So long as people like you continue to believe the corp IS the LAW, it will continue to accumulate political prisoners to use as slave labor for private corps willing to pay the price.

                  The corp is NOT the Law, does not make Law, can not make Law, and has ZERO enforcement authorization for it’s CODES no matter how many times it calls them law.

                  If you do not understand why sometime I have capitalized Law, and other time I have not, you can not understand what i am saying and are ripe to be a victim of code enforcement as the representative of a fiction that is NOT you.

                  Learn, and understand, so you will stop in your unwitting effort to have others follow in the footsteps of your ignorance of the Law.

                  Law for People comes from God. The corp writes “codes and calls them law.

                  You can get your Law from God, or you can get your law from the corp. It is your CHOICE as to which Law you want to protect you.

                  Thus far, you have made the wrong choice. But you are free to change that ANY TIME, without approval or permission.

                  It’s called FREEDOM. If you don’t know how to protect it, you don’t have it.

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                • Gods Creation says:

                  I forgot, the LAST thing we need is for a corrupt government to amend the Constitution it ignores anyway, and instead enforce through the barrel of a gun the Laws already written that restrict the corps actions in the states against the People.

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              • Unveiling says:

                Interesting, I recently came across this…

                http://peoplestrust1776.org/

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            • Just In Case says:

              I believe that is call straw purching. They are now trying to make it a felony.The Senate Judiciary Committee approved it last Tuesday.

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              • Gregory8 says:

                Just in Case: That’s exactly what it’s called and it’s a felony. Line 11a on form 4473 asks if you are the real purchaser for the gun. If someone else has given you the money to buy it because they can’t do so legally, you the ‘straw purchaser’ and both of you are committing a federal crime which will land you both in prison if discovered. That does not mean purchasing a gun for a spouse or friend as a gift. You can do that as long as they are not prohibited from owning a firearm. People can argue all they want about the Constitution and other laws such as the Dick Act, but what folks fail to undestand is that TPTB don’t care. If they want you in prison on a technicality, you’re gone-period. Operation “Fast and Furious” was the ATF asking gun dealers to turn a ‘blind eye’ to purchases they thought were straw purchases and let the bad guys buy their guns. But some folks still insist on standing on priciple. The only thing they’ll if they truly want to make a federal case out of it is a well publisized trial where they’ll painted as an extremist and receive a very long prison sentence when it’s over. This isn’t the movies where the good guy wins because he has truth and justice on his side. His life, and that of his family, will be turned inside out physically, financially, and emotionally. And TPTB will take everything that they’ve prepped for as evidence of a paranoid and conspiratorial mind. The ‘hero’ will be in prison and his family will be unprepeared and defenseless WTSHTF. Only and egomaniacal moron would do that to his family. A wise man picks his battles, both the time and the place. Now is not the time and federal court is never the place. The thumbs down will come from those that hate what I say but know that I’m right. Be samrt, or go to prison.

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            • THE DICK ACT OF 1902,is a attachment to the 2th amendment of the US CONSTITUTION,IT IS STILL IN FULL FORCE,it forbids any and all gun laws,it can’t be repealed,it can’t be changed,and goes on forever,THIS is a law that makes all gun laws NULL AND VOID,IT also forbids our national guard from ever being used in a foreign war and being taken out of the country,the government knows about it,why don’t YOU,I guess they kind of forgot to tell everyone huh…figures don’t it……………..

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              • 41MagMan says:

                Interesting. But it does make me wonder why the gun rights advocate groups have not jumped all over this to have all 20,000 US gun laws revoked as being unconstitutional.

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            • AZ Dave says:

              It is not illegal to purchase a firearm for a person that may legally own a firearm in certain states. Purchasing a firearm for your spouse in a free state as a gift is legal. A straw purchase is the purchase of a firearm for a person that you no cannot legally own a firearm.

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          • two2wisper says:

            That could explain why the 357 my wife bought me for a present has become her pistol of choice.The person receiving the firearm should be the one choosing I guess?But as long as she is happy Im happy.

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          • old soldier says:

            Kindle, I read Enemies and Traitors TWICE! Highly recommend!It opened my eyes, also.

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          • Roseman91 says:

            Well spoken! Gun wise you need a .40 cal. .45 weighs 7 pounds loaded. Who needs it? Plus the government has bought 5 million rounds, we will take theirs. And get guns that cross over to NATO rounds. Think ahead! Stay true to the constitution!!

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            • LUCKY days are here again,DHS is placing 8x8x8 cargo containers in pairs around the nation,they are painted sand colored,camo green colored and no other markings,GUESS WHAT,there full of ammo and weapons,they been seen in truck stops,super markets and other places like police department parking lots,keep your eyes open,because theres your supply of ammo and weapons…just waiting for you to come and get them…………..

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            • 41MagMan says:

              Who need a .45? Lots of us, actually. My Colt .45 Combat Commander weighs closer to 3 lbs. than 7 but whatever. I like it because I can shoot it quickly and accurately. Anything shot with it is likely to stay shot and not jump up and shoot back. At 6’3″ and 240 lbs., handling a .45 is no problem whatever. Maybe for a small person it would be. Not every gun fits every shooter. But if the gun fits, strap it on! ;-)

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          • joshua cooper says:

            in my opinion the best all around handgun to protect yourself from another human being would be the 357 magnum revolver its fail proof just point and shoot until u can get to your ak-47

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            • 41MagMan says:

              The .357 is a good weapon, no doubt. It has enough power to do the job and tends to be accurate. The fact that it only offers 6 rounds could be a problem, though. Another problem is the effect of its muzzle blast and the shooter’s night vision. I own a S&W Mdl 19 in .357 mag and have shot it a lot. Yeah, I would use it in a combat situation but only if I could not get to my Colt .45 auto first.

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          • Federalist45 says:

            http://enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/

            I have been trying to spread the word about Bracken for a long time. I try always to link to his website so people here can buy his books. ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC is the single best set of books available on our future. Almost everything Bracken anticipates in his novels are becoming reality. We see it on an almost daily basis. Sure, the scenarios change a little–instead of a stadium shooting set up by the ATF renegades, we get the Batman and Newtown shootings from which the Statists maximize their control. Just as Bracken describes, the SW descends slowly into the chaos of a Balkanized New Mexican State. Just as Bracken describes, good, decent, honest Americans are made into bad guys to be dealt with.

            I urge every reader here to read Bracken.

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            • Wolf359 says:

              I took your recommendation about EFAD about 2 months ago and have since recommended it here several timss.

              Truly is a story coming to life. The stadium massacre, aztlan, civil war and how they came to be are a live blue print being displayed everyday in the news.

              I haven’t been as depressed about a book since OSA.

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          • 41MagMan says:

            Yes, it IS good that more ladies will be armed but I agree that they need to be part of the selection process. The feel of a weapon in your hand is critical to how well you can use it when the time comes, so handling it BEFORE purchase is necessary.

            I bought a Ruger LC9 (9mm) handgun about 6 months ago. I am not a 9 mm fan boy by any means and only got it because I wanted an inexpensive hideout gun with better than .380 punch. This fits the bill nicely. No, it is not my Colt .45 Combat Commander or even my S&W Mdl 19 .357 mag but it is a decent little hideout weapon that my wife handles easily. Recoil is moderate and accuracy is good. Only thing I do not like about it is the excessively long trigger pull. There is a $45 kit that reduces this by half and I am strongly considering it.

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          • Wayne says:

            Yes, by all means, let her pick her own. You want her to be able to hold onto the thing comfortably. My wife held, handled, and inspected damn near every gun in the cabinet. She settled on the M&P 40C. That was the most comfortable for her to start. Now that she has done more handgun shooting, I can hardly pry my Kimber 1911 from her hands.

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        • Pretty soon I’ll have to wrap my gun in mylar to make them invisible.

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      • Shootit says:

        Do you all remember the 2700 tanks? They are not for DHS. They are for the UN. Don’t ask, but that is where they are going.

        Call your Rep. De-fund this now. Let the corp. starve.

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        • I thought those were bradleys not tanks?

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          • Shootit says:

            They are “mine proof” vehicles. One of the articles called them “Tanks”. That is why I used it. Does not matter what the PO says they are destined for the UN. I trust my source.

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            • Kevin2 says:

              It’s a “rose by any other name”. Regardless they’re not police vehicles but rather armor plated military vehicles. The ruse works both ways when soldiers, marines, airmen and sailors are used in a “Police Action”.

              Change a word or two to something close but not accurately descriptive and you can completely alter the intent of any statement.

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              • Shootit says:

                DHS Charter is to protect us. In light of that they should be protecting American jobs, environment, and our investment in GM by purchasing 2700 Volts. Let them do what the Military had to do with the Hummers. Strap on their own armor.

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            • 41MagMan says:

              I would be willing to bet that, like all other armored vehicles, they are not Molotov Cocktail proof! ;-)

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        • Facebook Page says:

          Dumbass Read the purchase order. 2684 for the Navy (Marines) to be deliver by 2017.

          And 16 only 16 for the DHS. There reason to hate them. But we dont need to make issues up.

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          • Really? Please provide a link to “purchase order 2684″ for the Navy. Your post is the only one I can find making such a claim. Every other story about this order identifies the Department of Homeland Security as the purchasing agency. For whom do YOU work, by the way?

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      • Harold Summers says:

        Yeah they do have a pair. One’s about the size of a’BB’ and the other one is a real little bitty thing.

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      • joshua cooper says:

        oh my america has turned the government on the very people that elect/vote the mf”rs in i swear this country is going to destroy itself from the inside out. the final scenario will be united states citizens/exmilitary/militia groups defending themselves from there own government.were do u draw the line do u kill a cop?what if he is trying to get your food or water ?has the president played this out fully?or is he automatically assuming victory over his own people ?i for one will not buckle to a communist rule without myself being shot dead.i know im not the only one thinkin obama is the worst thing that could ever happen to the united staes of america ?just open your eyes this country is setting itself up for a fall.the government of this country has far more resources and manpower and just to much stuff to be using on domestic soil .stop watching your own people look at the mexican ice dealer or the(oh god should i say it the black crack dealer) or the pimp or the bum wantin money at the liqur store were is the line and why do we need em? all im sayin and this is my own personnel opinion i dont trust the government its corrupt and deceitful and polluted and to be honest its a fucking joke this country has been running on luck and the good loreds blessing but that is soon to run out >>>>>thenwhat armeggedon im not lettin suits take my shit how bout yall

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        • 41MagMan says:

          Most of us respect our police and military people but neither of them has a license to steal what we have, regardless of reason. Those of us who prep for an uncertain future do so at the cost of other things that we could be doing with OUR money. We make a choice, same as everyone else, yet if the SHTF, somehow we are the bad guys who are “hoarding” everything and forcing others to do with out. I call BS on that! Anyone CAN do what we are doing but the sad truth is that a lot of them just don’t. I guess it is just plain easier to sit on their ass and then bitch when life treats them harshly.

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      • possee says:

        Well well well..

        Forbes of ..all sites.!!! is now questioning the 1.6 billion rounds and 2700 armored vehicles by homeland security..

        Link below.

        possee

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          • durango kidd says:

            If I were the Head of DHS charged with the responsibility for the safety of the American people and the preservation of the nation; and if I knew that Nibiru were real and would present itself to US in unmistakable terms within a few years, having a profound effect upon all of civilization, I would order:

            1. 2 billion rounds of ammunition of various caliber, anticipating that supply lines would be severed and production facilities destroyed;

            2. I would accelerate the construction of underground facilities to house OUR command and control structures to maintain OUR national defense;

            3. I would want 30,000 drones in the sky to monitor conditions on the surface, repel any aggressors, and coordinate police charged with corralling the zombie hoards bent on destruction, mayhem, and murder;

            4. I would ensure that there were sufficient internment camps for the zombies, 7,000 “personal defense weapons” for the use of Camp personnel, and 2700 armored vehicles to help round the zombies up, rather than let them ravage the countryside;

            5. I would want ExO’s in place sufficient to organize the chaos and quell the insanity;

            6. I would WANT the population unarmed to make my job protecting them easier; BUT instead, I would direct all gun owners to register with their local Sheriff’s Posse to swell the ranks of legally armed citizens desiring to protect their community;

            7. I would be transparent about the potential threat to civilization …. and delay that announcement for as long as possible understanding that madness could ensue throughout the length and breadth of society; and to ensure that I had all possible preparations in place beforehand.

            8. I would rely on conspiracy theorists and Alt Media to spread their concerns and encourage others to prepare for “Doomsday” understanding that there are limits to what I can do to protect every individual American; knowing that some enlightened souls could read the handwriting on the wall and become ….

            Preppers.

            Just saying. Not everything that glitters is “gold”. Still, invest in gold, speculate with silver, and hoard your lead. They won’t be making anymore of it after the Changes.

            Engage.

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    2. Paranoid says:

      Why don’t the Bastards just stop doing all the crap that is causing the problem in the first place.

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      • Not so Much says:

        How are they going to render the Const obsolete and usher in their NWO communist wet dreams if they do that.

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          • Pro-Zion says:

            No, the reason you get thumbed down is that anyone who uses the term “Zionist shill” to refer to enemies is a Nazi shill, a racist, and a fascist, and must be weeded out along with all the other statists. The only difference between you fascists and the fascists you pretend to oppose is that they’re in power and you’re not. Were the positions reversed, you would behave exactly the same, and that is why real preppers will have to treat you exactly like all the other parasites and thieves when the SHTF, i.e. shoot you and grind you up for dog meat.

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            • Anyone using the user name “Pro Zion” gets an automatic thumb down too, just in case you happen to be curious as to where all YOUR thumbs downs are coming from.

              And the “real preppers”? I don’t think their really in it for Zion. I’d like to encourage you to do some research regarding the “real” enemies – and please be open to the fact that you may be wrong. I don’t profess to know everything but I sincerely believe that the Zionist agenda is not compatible with the Patriot agenda.

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              • Anti-Stormfronter says:

                Fuck you too, Stormfronter Nazi cunt. There is no Zionist agenda, except in the fevered brains of racist cunts like you too illiterate to read anything but that Protocols of the Elders of Zion bullshit published by the anti-Semitic nutjobs who preceded the Nazis and republished by every Nazi successor on the internet ever since. True prepping is about laying in supplies for tough times, not spewing paranoid racist shit about a tiny ethnic group in a tiny nation struggling to survive in the midst of its enemies’ empires clear on the other side of the world.

                As for patriotism, I’d say trying to blame all your country’s woes on a race instead of on the actual individuals self-selecting groups that perpetrated these crimes against us makes you just as much a traitor as they are, and just as deserving of execution. You’re no patriot! The only difference between you Nazis and the Commies currently in the White House is that they’re currently in power and you’re not. Were the positions reversed, you would be doing exactly the same things they are, which is why you will behave exactly the same as they will when the SHTF, and be put to death for the same crimes against humanity.

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                • Facebook Page says:

                  Strongly said but it needed to be said.

                  Prep to Survive the Death of this monster we all helped create. We are all at fault.

                  But just to add AM NEVER LEAVING aT LEAST MOST OF US ARE NOT GOING TO RUN TO
                  ANOTHER COUNTRY.

                  Americans For Americans.

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                • Canada Canuk says:

                  @Anti Stormfronter….Can you not speak to one of our prepper/colleagues in a civilized manner? The rest of us come to this site to learn and share with each other….not to listen to your dirty mouth…..do you actually EAT out of that mouth????? and you take care, CC.

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              • Patriot Agenda says:

                Ever hear of Cindy Sheehan, Dumbsy? She talked exactly like you… and was a great friend of Hugo Chavez. Disgusting how you goose-steppers do stick together.

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              • Stan says:

                Bitch, you’re siding with Hitler’s apologists!

                Now I believe in equality for nearly everyone, and tolerance, and all that gay stuff; but bitch, fuck you!

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              • Wolf359 says:

                Well Daisy then you dont profess to know shit for that matter. To think I actually read your posts along with your website and thought of you as an enlightened individual but I have finally had it with you ‘re anti semitic jargon trash. WTF is up with everybody and this fabricated anti zioninist BS. Are you all that despondant? Its not some jew hiding behind a tree pulling the strings!
                I have studied history, have a degree of history yet from you and the likes of AM, AP or Grumpy you all have a secretive hidden version of historical perspectice apparently us lay people have never been privy too.
                You know throughout history everytime there was a downturn whether economically, m ilitarily or medically the Jews were always to blame. Entire villages and families were layed to waste. Its easy to find another people unlike urself to fall blame upon.
                The old hatreds are once again resurfacing and shame on you Daisy and shame on me for following you.

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                • European American says:

                  @ Wolf359

                  You “studied history”? “Have a degree of history”? “OF history”?

                  “dont”?

                  “zioninist”?

                  “desponant”?

                  “perspectice”?

                  “layed”?

                  “everytime”?

                  So, Wolf359 you’ve got a degree “of” history? What school was that at? When and where?

                  I’ll save you the embarrassment. You didn’t get a degree, except in Bull Shitting anyone who would believe your psychopathic nonsense.

                  FOLKS, THIS IS HOW A SHILL INFILTRATES A SITE. THIS COMMENTER IS A LIAR AND IS DELIBERATELY SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION, i.e. DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

                  AND IS GOING BY MULTIPLE NAMES IN ATTEMPT TO TRASH THOSE THAT WOULD BRING YOU THEIR TRUTHS.

                  YOU’VE BEEN EXPOSED Wolf359/Stan/Patriot Agenda/Pro-Zion/Anti-Storm…

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                • Is it possible that the issue is confusion of terms? Jewish is not the same as Zionist. Jews are not looking to set up a Zionist nation. The NWO types are trying to do that. To be against the NWO is not to be against the Jews. Anti-semetic refers to anti-jewish. But an anti-zionist is one who is against using the NWO to capture Jerusalem and use it for the NWO Zionist plan for a one world commuinist government that may also be used for a one world religion.

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                • AnonLegion says:

                  Sorry ea that is not how a shill infiltrates. LOL HEY IM A SHILL IM HERE LOOKIE ME…. no that is not how to do it.

                  A shill would sit back and watch and read for a few weeks.
                  You know the ones who say “I have been a long time reader first time poster.” those kinda ppl ( not saying all who do it are the infils. )

                  Then they slowly add comments testing which way to go how far they can push by reactions. Then after they set their limits they make comments that many agree with or even some agree with. Slowly throwing out false information making it look real. having some proof of what they are saying but not much proof if someone actually looks it up.

                  We keep calling trollers infils. they are just pains in the ass who like to fuck with people. A true infiltration specialist will not be seen or known even when they are spreading the lies. I would actually suspect someone who is well known here and someone others listen to when they comment.

                  The top suspect for true infiltration and set up would be someone who actually puts out articles here. Take it from someone who has used the skills in real life not just on the computer. To infiltrate you want to assimilate yourself, make yourself thought of as a non threat. Some of the deadliest ppl in this world would seem to you as nothing more then a clown and a fool. I was always the class clown.

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              • OutWest says:

                Daisy
                Screw their thumbs down when the truth is being told.
                We know who the straight shooters are on this site.
                There seems to be an awful lot of carp swimming up
                Mac’s trout stream lately. You don’t deserve that
                tirade and those a-holes can go piss up a rope. What
                the hell are they doing on this site anyway!
                Obviously, they are mistaking us for someone who gives
                a shit about what they are saying

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                • Ugly says:

                  OutWest….I wouldn’t worry too much from naysayers. In reality most on this blog knows troubled times are ahead. We need each others ideas and thoughts. I have learned from others on this blog, and that includes the so-called naysayers. The future will not be easy. Thus, I know what to sift as good idea or bad idea.

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                • Wolf359 says:

                  EA,

                  A shill I am not. My entire composition and compilation of posts attest to that and all my posts have always been under one name and with one IP address. I have had numerous back and forths both learning new and constructive ideas about shtf scenarios and putting my own personal experience and informational skills into discussion to help others on this site.

                  Most on this site are not tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists looking for an illuminati zionist reptillian plot to over throw the world.

                  Instead we are hard working well informed constitutional patriots who view the current direction of the us and world as fundamentally wrong and we are here to better ourselves and help others for what’s to come.

                  Whenever the term zionist is used by you or other racists you not only invalidate anything positive or worthwile you may have said but you lower the bar of discourse on this site.

                  There is no place for your obscene tin foil hat conspiracy theories here on this great site. Stick with above top secret and godlikepredictions for your ridiculous theories.

                  I will concede my punctuation and spelling was horrid but that’s what happens when posting in a truck from my phone on a dirt road.

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              • Wolf359 says:

                EA,

                Regardless of what you beleive nothing short of showing you a public trust clearance will convince you of what I assert to be nor does it really matter to me or most people on here.

                My posts speak for themselves and when I see garbage posts like you’re posts advocating crazy racist conspiracy theories I call BS.

                Again there is no room on this site for your ignorant fantasies of illuminati, hollow earth reptilians zionists here.

                Have you ever seen an article which Mac has posted supporting your racist conspiracy theories?

                I haven’t and I don’t expect to. Its beneath this site just like you.

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              • Pro-Zion says:

                Speak for yourself, Eurocunt… or should I say John Q Pubicscabs? Or should I say AM? Is it true what they say, that Hitler’s semen tastes exactly like his shit? You’d be in a position to know, I’m sure…

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      • ar15Bob says:

        This is all planned the grand scheme,to change our republic,get ready its coming,90 days food not even close to being enough try at least a year to start.Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of there country.

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      • Emil says:

        If you have this kind of questions now, then you have to Research, Read and learn Quickly!!!!! Just follow the MONEY !

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      • Neva says:

        Dear Paranoid,

        They won’t stop because they are doing it on PURPOSE! Obama learned his lessons well from the radicals of the ’60′s who said that overburdening the welfare system would cause the whole economy to collapse, making room for a new communist state

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    3. Not a real big fan of Mark Levin. I take what he says with a grain of salt, same as I do with AJ. I’m plodding along. Got a firearm with me or nearby most days. Something comforting about that, always has been. Got family that I can depend on. God’s still on the throne.

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      • possee says:

        Patriot

        The likes of Levin ,Limbaugh etc are all water boys for the neo con schools of thought..
        However..
        The fact that they are taking notice ,of what usually is dismissed as conspiracy lunacy,is now relevant to the process..and just might inform a few bit more.

        As you, I pack every day 24/7

        Just in case….

        Keep packing,stacking,and preparing..

        possee

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        • Gonetoolong says:

          None of these guys is perfect, but it is all we have at this point. You better start liking somebody. We would be in a world of hurt without some of these blowhards. However, I will give it to you on Bill O’flatulence. That asshole I can no longer watch (refuse to). He does not seem to understand that Obama actually does want to bring the country to it’s knees and he also doen’t get the 2nd amend. As stated above, keep packing.

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          • lemmingsrnotusdamnit says:

            You haven’t been watching BOR recently. Not only has he been absolutely brutal on Obama, he has specifically been warning about the potential for Economic Collapse.

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            • Gonetoolong says:

              You are right. I won’t watch him since after the election. His moderate speeches along to road to the election, I feel helped Obama enormously. His ass kissing trying to get Obama to come on the show were nausiating. Now Johnny come Lately is a soothesayer. No thanks, I am doing fine without his drivel. But, to each his own.

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            • Orwellian States says:

              Bill has advocated a national registry of guns. Sorry, but Bill does not understand the 2nd Amendment or how the gov wants to confiscate firearms.

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              • 41MagMan says:

                Just for giggles, we should rewrite all the gun laws on the books today so that they infringe upon the media’s beloved 1st Amendment rights and see how they like those apples. Something tells me that they would not like that nearly as much as they do infringing on the 2nd Amendment rights of all Americans.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Oreilly had an interesting exchange with Dennis Miller about that lastnight actually. He begged Miller to be honest and tell him what he’s been missing and Miller obliged. Told him he’s been late to the party and people have been warning about this for years and he had tried to tell him but O’Reilly would have none of it. Then told Bill he was waking up now with a lot of other people who just refused to acknowledge reality.

            A sign of things to come I’ve been looking for is when the likes of O’Reilly, Levin Kristol etc begin talking economic collapse and destruction then it’s nearly game time.

            All of them have rIdiculed and mocked people like Beck and Jones who have been ringing the bell for years too.

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          • Tucker says:

            Bull O’Reilly is a virulently anti-White, Frankfurt School of Cultural Marxist indoctrinated, White European genocide promoting, neo-con, RINO cockroach.

            Remember a few years ago, when a group of White high school kids down in Alabama, I think – wanted to have an after-prom party for White kids only? They wanted to have this party at a PRIVATE residence, not on any public property. Remember how O’Reilly reacted that story?

            Here we have what were obviously a group of racially healthy White kids, who were probably sick and tired of worrying about getting assaulted, raped or shot by some black or mestizo gang bangers – an occurrence which is almost a guaranteed event at any party or gathering where large groups of blacks and mestizos assemble, and these White kids wanted to have a party that reflected their celebration of White culture and which would be dominated by White behavioral standards instead of inner city degeneracy – and O’Reilly comes unglued. Screeching and screaming ‘racists’, ‘bigots’, and spewing every other Marxist smear word in the books at those racially healthy White kids.

            A private party, at a private residence, is the sole business of whoever plans the party and so is the list of people who are invited, Bull buddy. O’Reilly clearly has no concept or clue about ‘private property rights’ or about ‘freedom of association’.

            He’s a Cultural Marxist Communist cockroach.

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            • JustMe says:

              BOR will help insure White Genocide.

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            • Wolf359 says:

              Inform us all then of who you listen too and draw inspiration from other than the almighty?

              I’m very curious to know since you put down a lot of personalities ppl here prefer to listen to.

              Please enlighten me?

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            • allalone says:

              I personally have never had a colored person at a party I had. Does that make me a racist

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            • Black Planet says:

              Does SHTF promote racism?

              So now a white man can’t call a Spade a Spade (pun intended). I thought the topic of discussion was Collapse?

              Am I to believe that 4 million blacks and 8 million browns are savaging the country in large numbers? Correctme if I’m wrong, but isn’t it a fact that the reason we have Social Programs in this country is because a White Politician instituted it?

              Wasn’t it the very same Politician that confiscated everyone’s Gold, then Devalued the Dollar?

              Of all the Wall Street Barrons lobbying successfully for their continued bailouts to the tune of $11 plus TRILLION from the Federal Reserve, how many of them are Black or Hispanic?

              Has Welfare even distributed $11 Trillion to Blacks and Browns in its 60 year history? What’s the total number of Social Security and Medicare/Medical dollars that went to White People (not to mention Welfare)?

              Oh yeah, did Blacks and Browns issue themselves ONE HUNDRED SIXTY BILLION DOLLARS AFTER THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (that would be taxpayers) BAILED THEM OUT?

              You really are funny Tucker. I see Blacks and Browns all over White Neighborhoods repossessing homes after issuing loans they knew the borrowers couldn’t afford.

              Next you’re going to tell me blacks and browns issued loans that Greece, Spain, Ireland, and Italy couldn’t afford right? And when it affects mainstream America, via the Derivatives (the blacks and browns created), it will be their fault too-right? Is that what you’re trying to tell us Tucker?

              I don’t mind it if your Racist children want to mingle amongst themselves. Just make sure they invite the other white trash-you know the ones that destroyed our country- to the party as well. They’ll be right at home.

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        • Jimb says:

          “water boys for neo con schools of thought” WTH are you talking about. Listen to them instead of reading about them and you wont sound so stupid.

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            • durango kidd says:

              WE better ALL vote Republican in 2014 or the commies in government will dissolve the US Constitution with majority control of the House, Senate, and WH.

              Better Right than RED.

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              • don't tread says:

                Unless there is divine intervention by fall 2014, the last thing we will be concerned with is who to vote for. I hope we have that long to prep; but, I wouldn’t count on it.

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              • stan522 says:

                I do not believe we will make it to 2014…. this all will crumble before they get into the heat of campaigning

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                • Rick:) says:

                  You guys are not paying attention; Market’s up! Job’s are up! Housing is coming back! We are just around the corner from being a world leader in energy!!!
                  And when Obama care “really cranks up”, you’ll see what a great benefit it will be.
                  And as far as the general economy. Bernanke’s got things well under control. You just don’t posess the brain power he does, and therfore can’t follow along.
                  And for those rare instances when you need protection,”just go buy a shotgun”. Joe Biden has been a UNITED STATES SENATOR for over 35 years for god sake!! He’s freaking brilliant. ( and looks good too!).

                  so stop whining, your just bringing us down with all the negativity.

                  (now for the fun part. seeing how many knucklheads td!)

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                • noname says:

                  vote in this country is a fraud. Will you continue to play this game?

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              • Journalist says:

                How many Republican congressmen voted for the NDA? The 2008 Republican Presidential candidate wrote it. You still think Republicans are going to save us?

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                • 41MagMan says:

                  No, they are not. But perhaps they are a bit less rabid about the same infinite government agenda that the left has. If so, then having them in control could mean up to several months of additional prep time before everything turns to crap. That time is more precious than many realize… but only if it is used to prep.

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              • Tucker says:

                With the November 6th, 2012 election results – as broken down by race – the left clearly thinks that the game is over, and they’ve won and are now unstoppable.

                This sudden explosive push to come after our firearms, so soon on the heels of November 6th, was no coincidence – and neither was Sandy Hook, either. I really do get the sense – from watching the huge amount of nauseating gloating that is busting out of the leftist controlled media, the amount of raw, unfiltered, no longer subtle – the in-our-faces racial hatred and venom that is being spewed like rancid vomit at White European people – these anti-White racists on the left have really dropped their masks and are now revealing just how deep their hatred and animosity is for the traditional founding stock of America.

                They believe that they’ve got a lock on a permanent, one party dictatorship – and that might very well be true. It will most certainly be true if the RINOs like Rubio, McCain, Graham, Cruz, Gingrich, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, and the rest of these RINO rats manage to cut a deal with the Communist at 1600 PA Avenue and grant amnesty to 30 to 40 million illegal aliens and then also let them import 50 or 100 million of their relatives.

                The D’s know that only a second American Revolution will threaten their one-party totalitarian dictatorship – and that’s why they were so quick to try to grab our firearms after November 6th. They won’t give up on this, folks. They just got a little too impatient and made a tactical mistake in showing their sinister cards a little too soon.

                Already, we see signs that they are trying to quiet this issue down a little and revert back to their former stealthier schemes. Do not let this fool you – they want our firearms because they want to resume where the Bolshevik Communists left off in the former USSR and mass exterminations of White Europeans is not possible when we are still so heavily armed.

                Remain vigilante and start preparing for what is sure to come in the future. Oh, and stop voting for RINO cockroaches in the R party, people. They are our biggest enemies, and even more dangerous than the hard core, out of the closet Commies in the D party.

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              • eeder says:

                dk, in this case, yes, voting , even if it is for the repukelicans, is important. Obama cannot have a clean slate to implement his agenda. However that is the only reason why and the repukelicans certainly cannot be trusted.

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                • John Q. Public says:

                  Clearly the Synagogue of Satan (God’s name for them in Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9) wants to hide their beliefs from the goyim.

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          • possee says:

            jimb

            I listen to Levin every night..like it or not..He is a Constitutional lawyer and well versed in his subjects.

            I sent this link to mac and it was posted..thank you very much..

            I listen to Limbaugh.

            I listen to Michael Savage.

            I listen to Alex Jones.

            I listen to Rachael Maddow.

            I listen to them all…

            and when anyone of them speaks the truth..we have won a small battle.

            the right wingers and the left wingers all disseminate their angles ..

            and the likes of Levin,etal,although brilliant in their intellect..

            are still a neo con shills ..

            at least they are honest in their convictions.

            possee

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              • Heretic Historian says:

                The original 13th Ammendament forbade public office, to anyone holding a title of nobility. This includes barristers and esquires (attorneys, for the uninitiated). Now take an inventory of how many attorneys are holding local, county, state and federal office.

                The phrase “constitutional lawyer” is a contradiction in the purest sense. This form of infiltration goes back thousands of years. Check your Old Testament Bible for a recent example.

                While you focus all of your energy on killing yet another messenger because you don’t like the message, their agenda moves forward.

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              • Barefoot says:

                I spoke via email with an attorney a friend had recommended. I was hoping he’d defend a friend who is in prison in TX for blogging the same truths we see here on this page. Attorney scoffed at me, a mere mortal, thinking I might understand the US Constitution. He looked up one or 2 things & made assumptions about the fellow in prison… believe me, friends, the NDAA is well in effect; it is not just possible, it HAS BEEN happening already for a few years now. :-( Better to die free than to be taken by Them in any way for any purpose. And put not thy trust in any attorney.

                (Hoping I don’t offend any attorneys here who are awake & are good guys… but you are in the minute minority. May you be well & safe & may you do a lot of good while you still can.)

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            • Jimb says:

              I have no idea what you just said?

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            • SD Mule says:

              A shill is not honest, a shill carries water for those whom they are beholden. Why fool yourself?

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            • Gods Creation says:

              I listen to what God puts in my head and heart.

              I don’t see a need to listen to paid propagandist, even if sometimes they speak the truth about their own lies.

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        • POSSEE,a friend of mine,Had a vision from the lord a while back,He came out of a china-mart and him and a friend noticed troops in the parking lot,before he could get to his truck, they got the drop on them and they were rounded up in the corner of the parking lot by the chinese troops,when the chinese troops tried to talk to him and his friend,he didn’t understand anything they said,then the chinese guy who appeared to be in charge,gave a command to the other troops and they opened fire on him and his friend killing both of them,now consider, I’ve seen things like this to,DON’T go anywhere without your best weapons,THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN,I’am very sure of it…………….

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      • Sebastion T. says:

        They are deliberately accelerating the process. This is NOT a contingency plan.

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          • JustMe says:

            DK,

            I would wager on an instigated crash before I would nibiru showing up. Recall, all the financial crisis of the last century were instigated, and controlled. The desired outcome being systemic breaking of the people’s will to remain free, and institute socialism, in incremental steps, and justify endless wars.

            At this stage, money is just a tool and a weapon to the real PTB, they could care less what happens on any national level. They have untold reserves of hard assets, and a compliant army to crush thier enemies with. It would be nothing for them to crash the economy, and would give them all the reason they need to facilitate the North American Union, and go cashless, which is one of thier stated desired goals.

            These things are more likely to happen long before any real Earth changes.

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          • Heretic Historian says:

            You both may be right. If they have historic astrological knowledge of an orbiting large body celestial passage, they could time everything to that. It would explain the stalling. This thing should have collapsed years ago. Comet C2012-S1, as it is being called, could be such an object. Call it Niburu, Wormwood, The Red Cachina, Snoopy, it doesn’t matter.

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            • durango kidd says:

              Astrological knowledge? No. Astronomical knowledge? Yes. And Infra Red telescopes that can look back 14 billion years.

              Still I will admit there is considerable ancient artifacts, drawings, maps, and oral history to support the possibility of Planet X, Earth Changes, and Aliens.

              But now WE have science and technology …. and two suns in the sky. Its coming. Its years yet away, but it IS coming. The PTB know it and they are planning to use this knowledge as an opportunity to implement their Agenda when it happens.

              WE need to understand that, and be prepared to resist the North American Union when they try to dissolve the US Constitution and replace it with a Compact under UN auspices after the Changes.

              Just saying.

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              • JustMe says:

                DK,

                I have seen purported pics of the “2 Suns” seen only, oddly, in the southern hemisphere. I am not saying “Nibiru” does not exist, the knowlege of it does go back to the ancient Sumerians. And, yes some deep space infared telescopes do show what appears to be something coming into the solar system, and we have had a lot more near misses from asteroids lately.

                But, barring a major solar flare, I still think we will see many events occur here, long any deep space objects come close enough to affect anything. Why would TPTB bother to wait around for Nibiru, when they are so close to acheiving thier goals?

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                • slingshot says:

                  Are they “sundogs” which are reflections of the sun in the earths atmosphere?

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                • durango kidd says:

                  JustMe: I don’t expect the NWO to wait. I think they will pursue their Agenda as long as there is no real political resistance to it. I do expect them to take advantage of the special info that they have, which WE don’t.

                  Actually, Nibiru is suppose to be coming from the South, in an eliptical orbit that intersects the normal solar system plane, coming and going. This would be similar to a recent planetary system they have also found elsewhere, so not unusual in the scheme of things.

                  I believe this is why they are getting more aggressive with implementing their goals so that the “trap” on US is ready to spring as soon as they have justification for it. IE Earth Changes, pole shift caused by Nibiru’s gravitational effect, and Martial Law.

                  Note their underground cities built to protect them, provisions purchased to supply them, and enough bullets to arm them until some semblance of civilization is restored, while drones monitor activities on “top” that are remotely controlled from underground.

                  Note that I have LONG advised Preppers to: ” hoard your lead. They won’t be making any more of it after the Changes”.

                  I now advise those who like to blow off a couple hundred rounds at the Range to stem their fun and save their bullets.

                  Shooting is like riding a bicycle. WE don’t need to spend those rounds on paper targets. Engage.

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          • Wolf359 says:

            DK,

            Let me get this straight. You deny the possibility of even a remote threat to our sovereignty by the chinese economically or militarily and an economic collapse brought on by Globalists yet you advocate a hidden planet sweeping across sector 001???

            Wow, how much you have falllen.

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            • durango kidd says:

              Wolf: The CCP and US are financial partners and economic competitors. A severe break between the two would effect the Chinese as much as, and maybe more than, the USA; and China’s economy is as fragile as OUR own. The CCP fears Revolution more than the PTB.

              Economic integration was the NWO plan from the beginning of the opening of China. The natural expansion of China is North, West, and South.

              A collapse of the American economy would plunge the world into global conflict that the PTB cannot afford. Not gonna happen. At least not deliberately. The coming war with Iran is not WW III.

              If the GB’s wanted collapse, Uncle Ben would not be propping up Europe with OUR fiat. He would just let it fall and Western Civilization with it.

              The biggest threat to US sovereignty is the army of Illegals crossing OUR border by the tens of millions and infiltrating every nook and cranny of the United States.

              The Bible states that the earth will “stagger to and fro in space like a drunkard”. I believe the Bible. It also states that a “sun (not Son)will rise with healing (cleansing) in its wings”. Nibiru is known as the winged planet.

              If Nibiru IS the brown dwarf spotted in 1983, and if it is heading OUR way, then it has the potential to make the world anew, physically speaking.

              The fact that the earth is resounding with major quakes that appear to be increasing in magnitude and intensity is self evident to the general public.

              Something is causing that. It may just be increased energy from the Sun expanding the planet causing breaks and cracks in its surface. I will put my money on Nibiru.

              Try to think outside the box. :-)

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              • Wolf359 says:

                DK,

                We’ve gone over this before and we’ll never convince each other. With regards to Nibiru. I haven’t found any reputable information, just fringe posts on websites and outlandish conspiratorial sites. I keep an open mind so do you have any sites you could lead me to.

                I agree with you about increased eq activity and volcanic activity but w o more substantial information regarding Nibiru I’m not remotely close to attributing it to that.

                I have read that since earth is lined up w the galactic center they’re could be a
                gravitational swell affecting the sun and also earths outer molten core and mantle by altering its temperature and motion hence affecting the earths crust causing increased eq and volcanic activity.

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              • Journalist says:

                I have just written 3 articles, basically in story form, about how Joel2:15-20, Ezek. 38:18-22 and Revelation 6:12-17 & 8:7-12 all come together when Turkey, Iran, Russia et al attack Israel and the Lord intervenes with Nibiru to miraculously save it. So I think this is very plausible. However, I believe several years before this happens the world economy will collapse and be totally restructured.

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      • Rodster says:

        I’m not a big fan of either Limbaugh, Hannity or Levin but I do listen to them. But as was previously mentioned the Big 3 are beginning to discuss it so they realize it we are in trouble.

        Actually Glenn Beck has been saying this along with Alex Jones way before the Big 3 admitted we have a problem.

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        • Kindle says:

          Rodster,
          I agree with you. Alex Jones has been talking about it for years and people mock him. He actually has done some good research on all this but has been getting a little hysterical lately.

          I can barely listen to him anymore because he bounces between tears and anger. He had to take this week off because his blood pressure was getting too high.

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          • sixpack says:

            That’s what happens to a lot of men when they feel helpless. I often feel the same way. When I look around at the obvious, serious problems we have today, I feel frustrated that there are answers out there, yet the people in this country can’t grow the fuck up and come together long enough to fix our country.

            People can’t turn off American idol and the super bowl long enough to secure our government.

            The answers I feel most frustrated over, are the non-violent ones that just lack a large enough number of people to implement. If we can’t get the simple things done, we’ll surely never get out of this mess.

            I can say that I do fear for my life and the lives of my loved ones today. Although there isn’t a gun pointed at them at the moment, just the thought that some idiot could wipe one (or all) of us out without a second thought terrifies me.

            THE FACT THAT I CAN’T MEANINGFULLY FIGHT BACK TERRIFIES ME, that I must look to literal corpses for protecting my future scares me to no end. I now realize that the only use there is for the dumbed-down masses, is as a shield in a hail of gunfire.

            The nightmares will destroy you. I think I understand where Alex is coming from, but we should be p0aying attention to his mood change. We already know he has a helluva lot of insider information that most of us do not, and I’d say he’s reacting to that.

            Our moods SHOULD BE changing as we get nearer the tipping point! We SHOULD BE getting more edgy as the clock ticks—but we are not, but at least some of us still recognize the change in others.

            WHY IS THAT? Why are we not feeling more trapped and volatile at this point? If what we believe comes to fruition, PEOPLE (maybe us) WILL DIE!

            The urgency SHOULD BE weighing heavily on us.

            Have we just gotten so used to the “any minute now” collapse that never comes, that we are failing to feel the change in the weather now?

            IMO, now is not the time for normalcy bias.

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            • Kindle says:

              Sixpack,
              Very well said. Tons of truth in your words. On down the page I posted a reply to Braveheart, “My mind will start going into overdrive trying to figure out what I need to do. I keep hearing “Be still and know that I am.” This has really helped calm me down in the last couple of weeks.

              I just finished a really good book that dealt with a lot of what we discuss on this forum. To the question of “how do we fix it” a number of people in the book found a way to force the life-long statesmen in congress to put a bill before the states for ratifying the constitution to include term limits.

              The more I read the more it made a ton of sense. Term limits would keep the “lobbyist, unions, corporations, fed. agencies and power-hungry professional politicians from controlling congress.”

              It was called, “Tyranny Demands An Act of Self-Defense” by Erne Lewis.

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            • JayJay says:

              Sixpack, right now I am not involved as I should be.
              Call it what you like; I call it frustration and a ‘why bother’ attitude. Example..Rand Paul and his supportive senate(not!!)
              Now, saying that does not mean when we are called to act, I and my husband won’t be there.
              As many would say, we got your back and any others here.

              Peace…and may love be the light that gets us through the darkness.

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            • SmallerGovNow says:

              Never posted here before. But your comment prompted me to and to say that I share your feelings. I’ve been wondering what I will do when they come to my door. Playing through horror scenario’s. It is scary… And let me add, we should not be afraid of our Government, but we are. WTF has happened?

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              • Montana Mike says:

                Hello SGN. Even your handle says much about you. We all hope you will find Mac’s site informative and thought provoking. Looking forward to any future comments of yours.

                {mm}

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            • WatcherOntheWall says:

              “When the government lies to its people, and there is nothing they can do about it, then that changes them. The people begin to understand how little power they really have.
              I think when you lie to people’s faces and force then to be silent about it, that this breaks their spirit. And when you can finally make them repeat those lies, and put the lies into effect in their work and everyday lives, then this affects their ability to perceive reality. Or to even care what reality is. Being lied to constantly erodes the human spirit until there is nothing left but a soft, malleable putty that we can mold and shape into anything we want.”

              ~~J.T. Hatter; ‘Lost In Zombieland’~~

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          • Grasshopper says:

            Yeah, I really like old Alex when he gets passionate… and the last couple days (6th and 7th March) he’s really been passionate. He knows a lot about the stuff he’s researched, he’s an expert in his field. (However, I just turn the button off when he talks about climate change. He’s clueless about that). But he really knows his stuff about the elite.

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            • sixpack says:

              If you go watch his old videos when he was in his 20′s or so, he is much more matter-of-fact in the presentation. He looks more like a newscaster back before CONSPIRACY BECAME FACT.

              NOW the urgency and desperation has set in.

              I always pay my attention to the MESSAGE rather than the MESSENGER. Things don’t always come out of my mouth as I intended them to either, but the message Alex puts out there is spot on in most cases.

              But the one thing that I DO SEE that gives me pause, is that Alex Jones is DESPERATE to push the message and wake people up because the time to REACT is upon us…here…now…and we’d better be as ready as we can be.

              I don’t know if I’m ready or not, but readiness may be a luxury we can’t afford to waste.

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              • WatcherOntheWall says:

                “When the government lies to its people, and there is nothing they can do about it, then that changes them. The people begin to understand how little power they really have.
                I think when you lie to people’s faces and force then to be silent about it, that this breaks their spirit. And when you can finally make them repeat those lies, and put the lies into effect in their work and everyday lives, then this affects their ability to perceive reality. Or to even care what reality is. Being lied to constantly erodes the human spirit until there is nothing left but a soft, malleable putty that we can mold and shape into anything we want.”

                ~~J.T. Hatter; ‘Lost In Zombieland’~~

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          • Tucker says:

            I’m in your boat, about Jones. I can hardly stand to hear the sound of his voice anymore. He sounds unhinged and raves like a lunatic, and often lapses into rants that are almost completely incoherent.

            Plus, I am sick and tired of hearing him harp on Hitler and the long dead and decomposing German Nazis and trying to blame them for everything that is going wrong with American today. Come on, Judas Jones. Get real.

            Feinstein, Schumer, Lautenberg, Levin, Bloomberg, Foxman, Potok, Chertoff, Kristol, Perle, Wolfowitz, Libby, Boxer and the rest of these totalitarian slime balls on the left and in the neo-con camp are not GERMANS and they are not NAZIS, you moron.

            They belong to the same tribe of nation wreckers who were trying to impose Communism upon Germany, bucko.

            And, those ‘awful’ Nazis were fighting them!

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          • tayronachan says:

            @Kindle, Maybe TPTB finally spiked his food or water with something?

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        • Rick:) says:

          I’ve watched Bill O for years. He seems to work hard at NOT being a demigog. But lately, he is espousing an epiphany. That Obama is a BOLD FACED LIAR. I think this is feined. He knows what a jerk B.O. is. But he has been showing deference, and giving BO the benefit of the doubt. Don’t forget, it’s “entertainment”, and Bill is #1 in the genre, like it or not.

          I watch whatever I choose. Don’t need someone telling me what channel to tune in or out. Piers even got some eyeball time, with all the gun crap. It was fun! Mika gets my attention in the morning, but the evening MSNBC lineup is “unf*^$ing watchable”. Who in their right mind would give Al Sharpton an hour on tv??

          blah blah blah… my .02

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          • Tucker says:

            I heard a rumor on the grapevine that the shiver that Chrissy Matthews claims ran down and up his leg when Obongo got elected and then reelected, was actually caused by a hole in his pants pocket that allowed his key ring sized stun gun slip through and the ‘on’ switch got pushed as it slipped past an unspecified part of his anatomy that was about 1 inch long.

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          • SD Mule says:

            Rick,

            The same kind of ignorant, programmed slave who would watch Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, J. Jackson, Blitzer, ect. Learn to think for yourself.

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            • sheeple#1 says:

              Why the fuck do you people still watch tv. For the love of god. Research the state of your mind when being programmed by the t.v. your put into a hypnotic state and easily manipulated regardless of ur views. Maybe you have not gone deep enough into the rabbit hole. But take this as your first warning. The sheeple still sleep.

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            • Rick:) says:

              Everybody is “something” to somebody else. My wife, though, (and SD Mule?) is perfect. Ask her. Never Wrong.

              Hey Mule, keep the personal ad hominims to youself.

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            • Anonymous says:

              What’s your preferred veiwing Mule,reruns of Beverly Hillbillys?

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        • ar15Bob says:

          Beck has been saying this for years,been put off as a nut,moved to Texas,bought a farm,weapons, stored food, not so dumb.

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      • Zoltanne says:

        The thing is, Levin and Limbaugh, et al are now using their bandwidth to communicate a different set of talking points because they see what we see. Besides, their listeners give them feedback and opinions, so they’re hearing the anger and frustrations of the Working Class.

        Why waste precious time deciding if you like them or not. At the minimum, they have evidently jumped onto the subject of fiscal collapse — we shouldn’t knock them for talking about a financial collapse. Who knows, maybe they’ll start talking about preparedness in earnest by April.

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        • Rodster says:

          Limbaugh is a FRAUD !

          There I said it. He likes to pull off his pseudo conservative BS and it’s come to bite him in the ass, but he will NEVER admit that Ross Perot was right. The man who Limbaugh vilified and marginalized during the ’92 elections.

          Ross Perot warned against NAFTA and said all you’re going to hear is a giant sucking sound when jobs leave the US.

          And Limbaugh who is a hatchet man for big corporations dismissed it and railed against Perot’s premise that NAFTA would cause huge jobs to leave the US.

          Well look at what we have today. Kids going to college so they can get one of those great Taco Bell jobs. And he still blames it on Democrats who along with the Republicans pushed NAFTA thru.

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          • Satori says:

            hey for this kind of money
            I’d say anything too !!!

            http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121504302144124805.html

            Clear Channel, Limbaugh Ink $400 Million New Contract

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          • Zoltanne says:

            Rodster, Personally I don’t care if he’s a fraud or a transvestite. The point is that Limbaugh (and these others) all have a large audience and they are all a big threat to the Left. Perot doesn’t have any skin in the game — he’s gone. It doesn’t matter what Perot said 20 years ago. Forget Perot.

            We’re in today’s world and people need the opposing shock-factor that the far-Left keeps tossing out against the Conservatives. One of the reasons Obama gets away with so much is because he has the main-stream-media (aka propaganda dot gov) on his side. Until the MSM turns on Obama, he’ll continue to have it in-the-bag.

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            • Rodster says:

              It doesn’t matter what size audience they have, I no longer take him or any of the other 2 seriously. In Limbaugh’s case he helped facilitate mfg jobs going overseas because of his mass audience.

              So forever say hello to low wage jobs. And now Limbaugh and the others want to tell us how bad things are because they helped soften up their audience for big corporations and NAFTA. You reap what you sow.

              So I say to the big 3 welcome to 2013 where alternative radio host like GB and AJ have been preaching for at least 6-7 years we are in serious trouble.

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              • Zoltanne says:

                Rodster, You have the choice to listen to them or not. Personally, after the election was sunk, I turned it all off. I haven’t heard one minute of ANY talk show since November last year. The only “talk” I have heard is from an online link from here, Rawles site, or a news site that has a story linking to something specific. I also turned off the fricking TV. I hit my threshold after Obama stole the election.

                Last week, Levin went on a rant about the probability of economic collapse and I listened to what he said. I agreed with what he said so I listened to the full 10 minute segment at Youtube. I had the choice to NOT listen, and that’s the same choice you have with respect to any of these talk show hosts. If you honestly can’t “take him or any of the other 2 seriously” then why do you listen? Why waste your time and get upset or frustrated? You cannot blame Limbaugh for NAFTA — it was in the NWO plans way before Perot decided to get involved in politics.

                If you’re mostly angry because they’re only now “jumping on board”, well that’s show biz. They’re for-profit and they’re gonna go where the money is. Tell me where that’s any different than Glenn Beck or AJones having advertisements that are gloom-and-doom oriented (or propelling their shows and their brand).

                The big thing to remember about these talk show hosts is this: they are making money by selling OPINION.

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            • lastmanstanding says:

              No shit Z…the past is the fucking past.

              One needs to have a plan or 2 or 3 for when they finally pull the plug. You must do whatever it takes for family and friends to survive…WHATEVER it takes.

              If anyone is looking down the road to 2014 or beyond…

              You are done. This country won’t make it that far. NFW.

              Every day right now is a gift. Use it wisely…Make sure you put on the full armor of God…and…

              “don’t go down without one helluva fight.”

              If one doesn’t stand up for one’s self and humanity, God won’t be lifting one finger to help us.

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          • Gonetoolong says:

            He is human, He’s got things mostly right. I don’t like to hear him talk of how wonderful our old Healthcare system was/is. I can’t afford care and my family is on a $7500 deductible for catastrophies only. Don’t go to a physician unless absolutely have to. Hell the last time my youngest complained of abdominal pain, I held her by her feet and gave her a good shake. Gas settled quickly and she was fine. I can’t afford to run her to the Doc every time they sneeze funny. Limbaugh does’nt live in the real world and I think often forgets about regular people’s universe. I have told people for years, the healthcare system in the US will be the undoing of this country’s financial system in one way or another. It should not cost $4000 to apply a cast on a fractured radius on an 11 year old. It should not cost $11000 for a 3 hrs ER visit for what turned out to be gas in a 12 yr old. It should not cost $130k for a 12 hrs hosp visit for a snake bite as it dod for someone in the New England area last year. Things are way out of hand unless you are a govt employee or a millionaire (as far as health care costs).

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            • Archivist says:

              The healthcare system was great before everyone had to have insurance for every little thing. When I was growing up, if I had to go to the doctor, my father took me, paid the doctor cash, the doctor put the cash in his wallet, and we left. It was simple. The doctor’s office was a couple of rooms upstairs in his house. The only employee was his nurse. If I needed medicine, my father went to the drugstore, paid a little cash, and brought the medicine home.

              About 40 years ago, I was told in a class that the average price of a prescription was just over $2. I imagine that if insurance and the government were taken out of the picture, the average now would be maybe $20 or $30.

              People want insurance to pay for every little thing, such as regular office visits, prescriptions, etc. Even if you don’t, there are others who go to the emergency room for colds and minor cuts. Car insurance would be outrageous now if we expected it to pay for gas, oil, filters, checking the tires, etc. We’re also having to pay for people who don’t have insurance but are taken care of anyway. If all health insurance only covered catastrophic hospital care or drugs that have to be expensive, prices on everything else would come down drastically.

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              • Rick:) says:

                It’s a racket. In my opinion, ushered in by Medicare and Medicade. Private insurance picks up the slack.
                I have been told by friends in the H.C. industry, now hospitals get a “lump sum” from fedgov for Medicare, and are told to “make it work”. No wonder they report 2% admin costs. There is no admin.!
                And just what can we imagine the hospital is doing to insure a profit??? All the dumb crap we now see.
                Government is the anti-Midas touch. Everything turns to shit when they get involved. Everything.

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            • Eisenkreuz says:

              IF YOU IDIOTS WOULD ABOLISH MEDICARE AND MEDICAID AND BAN HEALTH INSURANCE NATIONWIDE IT WOULD BE CHEAP.

              NOBODY EVER HAD HEALTH INSURANCE IN THE 50S. THEY PAID CASH.

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              • SHTF Bacon prices says:

                We has factories in the 50s.

                Zero factories now.

                Socialist plot to destroy America.

                My retirement plans…..
                THE REDNECK RETIREMENT PLAN….
                Keep buying metals….they are real and I can touch them.
                Buy country property….well water, firewood for heat…maybe buy a pellet stove and a pellet making machine…make my own…
                Game, garden, fish.
                Live deep in the sticks until God takes me..and turn off the TV forever…forget about all the problems of the world…

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                • Anonymous says:

                  I think that sounds just like my retirement plans .
                  Now if I can awaken to my rooster crowing as the only sound .

                  Have decided the military helicopters look like cowboys surveying the herd .

                  Round up and culling comes next .
                  Steady .
                  Not one more inch!
                  Mission

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            • AnonLegion says:

              and gonetoolong if you try to reach that deductible of 7500 you find that 80% of the shit you turn in is not deductible.

              my wifes cancer treatments. totaling over 80k surgery chemo and radiation, blood tests, scans, visits. All supposed to be covered. we owe over 30k so much for the max out of pocket.

              They told a person who broke his femur that he could of drove himself to the hospital and the ambulance was not covered. This is pre obamacare by the way.

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          • High Noon says:

            Rush, called Ross Perot “a hand grenade with a bad haircut”. But I think it was the “Moon Men” on his front yard that did Ross in. Think of the Doors, (When Your Strange). Could have been his campaign song.

            Educate yourself, associate with like minded people.

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            • Rodster says:

              It doesn’t matter whether he had spaceships land on his front porch and they had tea together with green aliens. As a politician I had no interest in Ross Perot.

              He like Ron Paul have said that certain decisions will have ramifications on our economy and our nation. That’s where I agreed with Perot and I did not vote for him. He said the decision to go ahead with NAFTA was going to have major ramifications for the US manufacturing sector. He was right, Limbaugh and the others who supported it were wrong.

              So know graduating college kids are left fighting for Taco Bell jobs and basically most of the stuff that we import and buy comes from China. ;)

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              • JustMe says:

                I could have told you back then, TPTB were going to INSTALL Bill Clinton. That “election” was a farce, just like every one since Woodrow Wilson’s.

                “Presidents are selected, not elected.” – Franklin Delano Roosevelt

                Also, America’s manufacturing base was slated to be stripped and given away, via a treaty, signed in the late 1960′s. It was only that Bill Clinton was destined to oversee it. It continued under Bush too, and he could have stopped it.

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                • You are right. It goes back to the early 1900s with GATT. This was continually modified over the years and was absorbed into the NAFTA agreement. In turn, NAFTA was absorbed into the WTO which has REALLY gutted the American economy. The globalists will not be satisfied until the “unit of labor” has been reduced to the lowest possible worldwide common denominator. It’s what clark would call “free trade” as opposed to DK’s “fair trade”.

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          • JustMe says:

            Rush is a controlled steam-valve. He and others are still part of MSM, and will say nothing that they can avoid talking about. The fact that they are speaking about the coming crisis, is only because MSM can no longer ignore it, only try to spin it.

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          • My daughter is getting a PHD (Piled High & deep) so she can get a GOOD job. You know, like cashier at Target.

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          • SmallerGovNow says:

            yes, Perot was WAY ahead of his time. we need those kinds of facts and charts and someone the people will listen to to present them…

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          • Tucker says:

            Bingo! Rush Scumbaugh is what he used to call a ‘Country Club Republican’, which was a term that was used to describe what was later dubbed a RINO. He is NOT a conservative and anyone who believes that he is needs to spend some time at their local library doing some remedial homework on the ideology of conservatism.

            In short, a ‘conservative’ seeks to conserve. What, might I ask, is more important in the area of conservation than one’s own race and species of people? Or, in turn, a desire to conserve the civilization that was the by product of the talents, genius and ingenuity of White European mankind?

            Perhaps Rush has suffered so much brain damage due to his Oxycontin addiction that he thinks White Western Civilization was created, invented, and originated from the remote regions of the Third World? Or, maybe he believes the Cultural Marxist baloney that transforming America into a Third World alien majority populated and dominated nation consisting of Africans and Hispanics who, like the 80 percent of New York public school graduates, are unable to read or do arithmetic above 7th grade levels – are going to somehow pick up the mantle and carry White Western Civilization and the USA into the next century as a major economic and military super power?

            So, no, folks. Rush is no conservative. He is a greedy, materialistic, self-centered globalist and he has zero loyalty for America or for any of the values, traditions, principles, or ideals as espoused by our 100 percent White European Founding Fathers.

            Most alarmingly, Rush fails to realize that filling America up with millions of non-European people will result in them deciding to dismantle the institutions and form of government that they played no significant role in creating and which, therefore, has no sentimental value to them. This is what Obongo was calling ‘change’, folks. Change means destruction of Western Civilization and the dismantlement of our Republic.

            What was that Jesse Jackson chant of a few years ago? “Hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go?”

            As James Edwards on the Political Cesspool radio show likes to say: “You can’t have or maintain a first world nation when you replace it’s population with third world people.”

            Exhibit A for the prosecution: California
            Exhibit B for the prosecution: Detroit
            Exhibit C for the prosecution: Chicago
            Exhibit D for the prosecution: New York City

            Oh, or maybe Rush believes that if Tim Tebow and Peyton Manning would exchange uniforms, then Tebow would become the NFL’s top passing quarterback?

            Hint: It ain’t the ‘uniform’ that makes the man, Rush. It’s who is IN the uniform. The same rule applies to nations; the caliber and the quality of the people inside it determine the success or failure of a nation.

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        • leeholsen says:

          i would agree that the mainstream conservatives are singing a different tune.

          i think they had to see the US choose the path it did in 2012. they were probably convinced as i was that the US people would reject the path it has been heading down for 10 years now; i know i was; but the US has either changed or too many have yet to feel enough pain.

          i think it took them some time to accept it and are now accepting the results to come as the US will hit the worst of this before 2016, europe will hit the wall before then and take the US with them.

          having read a lot on the great depression, i’m not expecting a collapse; i’m expecting the next 5 or 10 years to be pathetic with a depression or more recessions while we deleverage.

          best thing you can do to come out of top on this is to follow the dave ramsey folks. have no debt except the house, live on less than you make and 6 months of funds in reserve.

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          • BigDifference says:

            BIG DIFFERENCE between Republican and conservative.

            BIG DIFFERENCE!

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            • Gonetoolong says:

              I no longer call myself republican. Period. Most seem to be fine with the RINO dialogue. Kind of like like all of the peaceful muslims (you know the ones). The ones that don’t have the balls to stand up and denounce sharia law and radicals.

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              • Eisenkreuz says:

                Muslims don’t have any place in this country. Period. Every Muslim country on the face of the Earth is a hellhole of terror, torture, and opression. If we breed too many of them here you know what to expect. Still think racism is bad, stoopid old people?

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                • Be informed says:

                  @ Eisenkreuz. I don’t like dealing with absolutes, but when you say every Muslim country is a pit, you are right. I checked the Almanac real quick to see if ANY Muslim country had any decent life expectancy and ONLY Qatar and Bahrain do with 76 for male and 80.3 for female. These countries are extremely wealthy and should have a life rate like that of Japan as the Arab diet is lots of vegeatables and fruits and this still doesn’t do them much good. Saudi Arabia with all its money has a life expectancy of 72.2 for male and 76.2 for females.

                  I think what is most terrible about Arab countries is how women are treated like donkeys. I have known a few American white and black women that were married to a Muslim and their lives became a living hell. I hate to single out a single religion, but I have not seen too many Muslim males treat their spouses with much respect. Another bad point is the way they treat their pets. When I lived out in California this one Muslim actually whipped his dog and his monitor lizard with an electric cord till they had bleeding welts all over their bodies and he tried to saw off his pet Macaw’s beak but thankfully the bird escaped.

                  I think much of what makes Muslims so unfair to women and animals is the belief that allah or the prophet muhammad has given them free range to act like savages. Everything is justified in their koran.

                  The main issue though is that I feel that time is growing short, and I could go on and on about what I have seen with Islam, but I rather concentrate on preparing for what hell is coming. Within the next moment the San Andreas, Cascadia, and/or the New Madrid faults go break and usher in martial law for the whole country. Tomorrow is a new moon and Israel could attack Iran, or within the next 5 days, and send the world into war and oil prices to $300-$400 per barrel. I feel that all of us should be focusing on getting ready. I would enjoy hearing some unique ideas on getting safe water from nature, like dew collection. You and others are quite intelligent and can add a lot of wonderful ideas on preparing to help us all. Please consider this in the future.

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            • Eisenkreuz says:

              WHAT DO YOU WANT TO CONSERVE? THE STATUS QUO? CONVERT TO LIBERTARIANISM.

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          • Rodster says:

            They are now singing a different tune because they realize that their so-called conservative republicans were no different than the democrats they vilified.

            So now they have to save face that they were just water boys for the republican party and big business.

            They now have to admit where all of this is leading and that is a collapse of the global economies. But guys like Limbaugh continue with their conservatism spiel as if it will all work out in the end. Maybe it will but not under the current economic system. It’s broke and it will fail.

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          • JayJay says:

            How can there not be a collapse?
            The more the cost of electricity, foods, gas, clothing, schooling,etc. to the consumer which are basically essentials, the LESS spending in those areas and NO spending for any entertainment, dining out, vacations, high end items like 4 wheelers, boats, new cars, even motorcycles and bicycles.
            Therein lies a pathway for unemployment in all walks of life, part-time or full-time.
            When GDP suffers, then revenue from corporations suffers and taxes from income suffers.
            A cycle and I wish I was smart enough to stop it.
            Truthfully, I see this as a plan created by TPTB.
            Destruction worldwide creates dependency and more control for them.

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            • Zoltanne says:

              JayJay, what you’re describing is the symptom of Bernanke’s money-printing of the USD. Never has a country been able to manufacture currency out of thin air and survived the influx of ‘new money’. We are seeing the effects of what the Fed has been doing and we will see it worsen and worsen.

              Oh, but wait! The unemployment figures for February are 7.7%!! Glory Be!

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              • Shootit says:

                Closer to 15.4%, but when you are the publisher you can publish anything.

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                • Zoltanne says:

                  Like that “publisher” thing, Shootit. The Feds use that U3 number which is faked, and they throw it out there for the soundbites and idiots who buy it. The 15.4% is a bit higher than the Fed’s U6 figure, isn’t it?
                  I’m somewhere between Shadowstat’s and the U6, making unemployment one mellofahess for the working class.

                  But whadoIknowImagirl….

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                • Shootit says:

                  I don’t know the true number. They lie and I was giving them the benefit of doubt. It may be higher. Just like inflation. Just trying to get people to pay attention to reality Z. :)

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        • SD Mule says:

          They are shills!!!! Only now, they are talking about something that has been going on for years?? At best that makes them lacking in vision and intellect. They suck!! Think for yourself, believe in yourself!!

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      • Not so Much says:

        ok, so who are your voices of reason and sanity?

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        • Paranoid says:

          The little ones in my head that keep saying Ammo, Silver, TP, Food. can’t you hear them?

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          • Not so Much says:

            You know that’s not what I mean. Who helps make you think? Who do you respect and admire for their thinking and their actions?

            I listen to voices that stimulate my thinking. I’ll respect and/or admire those whose deeds match or surpass their words.

            And notice that agreeing with someone all the time doesn’t come into it. I dont even agree with myself all the time. I always reflect on my words and actions and sometimes need to apologise.

            The results of my thinking and observation guide my conscience accordingly.

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            • durango kidd says:

              Listen to your heart. Go within. Communicate with the Spirit of God that is within you.

              Watch everything. Listen to all sides. Then go within, use the Spirit of Discernment that the Lord has given US.

              He will lead you, guide you, inspire you, heal you, protect you, and make a way for you. My God is an awesome God.

              Thank you Lord.

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              • Sgt Stryker says:

                Couldn’t agree more,dk

                I’ve been a lurking for about a year and have been slowly preparing for what’s coming. Since the election I’ve been on a fast pace to prepare as quickly as possible. As crazy as it sounds, I feel I’m being pushed in this direction by God. It’s the same “gut” feeling I got when I joined the National Guard in 2007 as a 48 year old prior service Marine(1976-79). I told my wife in 2007, that I felt that I was being called to join and I have that same feeling of a calling now. Thank God my wife trusts me to do the right thing to take care of her and our girls, to the point that she is getting almost as active in preparing as me. (although she’s tired of me pushing to always buy more beans and rice. LOL)

                I love this site and have learned so much from everyone here. Thanks and my God watch over us.

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                • Obtuseangler says:

                  Not So Much et.al, you are right. About seven years ago I felt driven to make major changes. Get out of debt, move across the country, shift money from stocks to tangibles, stock up. My wife went along, though she sometimes must have thought I was nuts. She is happy now. We have stayed ahead of the curve. We live in a safe place. She heard about ammunition shortages and asked the other day whether we needed ammo. No, baby, we are good.

                  My latest drive is to make our house independent of gas/electricity for heating. No small chore in the frozen north. She tells me OK, pay attention to those feelings you get, since they have been right so far.

                  I’m not a smart guy. I think we need to listen to our inner voices and read the signs around us, though. Animals do this when the days start to shorten and they prepare for winter. If animals have the ability to sense oncoming storms, why shouldn’t we as humans have the same capacity? Take care.

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                • SmallerGovNow says:

                  Best of luck. Thanks for your service…

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                • Not so Much says:

                  I started smelling something rotten in the air in 2004. I moved in Jan 2005, which is 8 years ago. LOL, nice coincidence.

                  I had a VERY lucrative rental properties business in Cali and sold everything and moved to flyover country.

                  I’m of the same mind, stay out of debt and be prepared. I was sure my wife would think I’m nuts until she paid me a great compliment. She said, I love you because you have foresight enough to make sure your family is taken care of.

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                • Obtuseangler says:

                  @Not so Much. Yup, don’t know what tipped you off, but it was clear to me our economy was overleveraged. Debt, based on more debt, with a diminishing ability of the consumer to pay off the debt at the bottom of the pyramid. Mortgages, credit cards, auto loans, etc. A house of (credit) cards ready to fall at the slightest breeze. Much of that debt load has been shifted onto the federal balance sheet now. That shift makes it no less unstable. Note the current default rate on student loans now that the feds have taken that over.

                  In my view, about the only things that have changed is that the numbers are far greater and the liabilities have shifted largely from private institutions to the taxpayers. That doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies.

                  The explosion in government dependency, coupled with a desire on the part of the central government to further tax the productive, is also an unsustainable dynamic.

                  A person isn’t delusional to see these things. A person is delusional to deny these things.

                  Our greatest reponsibility is, and alway will be, to protect our families. Left a good paying job and an almost paid off mortgage behind. Physical security trumps most other considerations. No point in being financially flush if you live in an area, like I did, where drivebys, home invasions, gangsters, and robberies were routine. An old truck, jeans, and work boots suit me just fine. I don’t own a tie anymore. And my family is happier.

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            • Paranoid says:

              Seriously, there are effectively no Voices of reason out there. The people on this site ARE the voices. No national figure can come out and tell the truth. If he was believed he would cause panic, If not he would be vilified and destroyed by those that love the PTB. Besides you can lead a fool to wisdom but you cannot make him think.
              Using the figures from the Market Ticker today: Medicare/Medicaid took in 200 Billion and spent 1000 Billion last year. You want to tell the public we must cut it 80%.
              Social Security needs cut by 1/3, you going to tell the AARP
              Obama care will bankrupt the whole country, you want to tell the 11 million on disability, work or starve? I once wrote down nearly 50 things the Gov could do to make things better; that wouldn’t cost effectively anything. From throw out 10 million illegals and tell Americans to take the jobs or starve, to get rid of the Homeland Security guards on the ferry to the Statue of Liberty. you want to hijack a ferryboat, go ahead.
              All the Meds I take require a MD visit here and prescriptions. In Canada they are over the counter and cost !/4 as much. And they are made in US. But the Congress prohibits re importation. Nothing is being done. I’m afraid the “Voices of Reason” know it’s to late, and people who are smart enough to be worth saving will figure it out themselves, for the rest rat bait.

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              • Not so Much says:

                “Seriously, there are effectively no Voices of reason out there”

                Not so much.

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              • Burrow Owl says:

                Paranoid: “Seriously, there are effectively no Voices of reason out there.”

                Actually, there are quite a few voices of reason out there- the problem is that (at least for the moment) they have little or no chance of breaking through the barriers of mainstream media and reaching the ears of Boobus Americanis. (Which I’m assuming is your point RE: ‘effectively’. Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

                Folks like Stefan Molyneux, Larken Rose, Derek J., Ian Freeman, Mark Spungin, Karl Denninger (Your own example), Cliff Schaffer, Tinsley Grey Sammons, etc.,etc.,(far too many to mention), have been banging the drum of liberty for years. Unfortunately, for the the most part, they are doing little more than preaching to the choir.
                I guess what I’m getting at (Please pardon the rambling- I’m currently working rotating shifts, so I’m more than a little brain-fried at the moment.) is:
                How do we nullify the current flood of propaganda and set the masses on the path of critical thinking?

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                • Paranoid says:

                  1 The masses never will “get it” ahead of time

                  I don’t know what the title was; I wish I did, but before WW II there was a movie which had a huge table with supposed diplomats discussing peace, right in the middle of the discussion they all drew guns and shot each other. You suppose the people that made the move knew war was coming? Hitler told anyone who would listen war was coming,so did Winston C. no one listened.

                  2. At this point I’m not sure we even want them to, who needs millions of terrified sheep

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                • 41MagMan says:

                  “At this point I’m not sure we even want them to, who needs millions of terrified sheep”

                  Who needs millions of any kind of sheep?

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              • Paranoid…none of those cost cutting talks would have been needed if the world would have stuck with a sound money system and not the fiat based, compound usury system we have now. The government would not have been able to spend “thin air” currency. They could only spend what they tariffed or taxed. The programs would be funded albeit smaller and fewer. Hang the bankers.

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                • Paranoid says:

                  Wishing the past or people were different will get you nothing. Is,is. Just remember to stockpile antacids, you stomach isn’t going to like what’s on the way.

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              • Tucker says:

                “Obama care will bankrupt the whole country…”

                As many have said, hindsight is often 20-20 and this rule can also be applied to the shenanigans that lead up to the ill-advised passage of ObamaCare.

                I’ve been lately remembering how, just a few years ago, the enormous degree of protesting that we heard from millions of Americans and also from the mainstream media about the astronomical explosions in the cost of health care. For companies and businesses in America, it was once a standard practice to offer employer-sponsored health benefits and this was considered a benefit that helped attract and keep the best and brightest on the company payroll. Some companies paid 100 percent of the premiums, and some contributed a percentage and the employee paid the difference.

                Once the health care and pharmaceutical industries began to get greedy, however, the costs of medical care skyrocketed – and employers began to rethink their policies of providing company sponsored health benefits. Also, the illegal alien invasion of the USA and the Supreme Court ruling that forced hospitals to provide ‘free’ health care services to these criminal invaders helped to drive up the costs for those native Americans who were insured and paying for their medical care. In the Southwest alone, I remember seeing news articles which were chronicling the huge number of hospitals which were going bankrupt and closing their doors as a direct consequence of the illegal alien mestizos who were being allowed to flood across our Southern border and then march into hospital emergency rooms and demand ‘free’ services.

                Hence, I am now starting to suspect that the whole ObamaCare fiasco was a deliberate plot to provide an excuse for American businesses to cancel their employer sponsored health insurance programs – and we are now seeing businesses cutting the number of work week hours down to 29, so they can avoid the penalties and also terminate any health insurance programs that they once might have offered to full time, 40 plus hour a week employees. In other words, the intended purpose of ObamaCare was to collapse the health care insurance industry in so far as company provided health benefits were concerned.

                Oh, and if the RINOs are able to cut a deal with Obama and grant amnesty to the 30 to 40 million illegal alien criminals in our country and then give them the ability to import another 50-100 million of their third world relatives – every last one of these aliens will be eligible for tax payer provided subsidies for ObamaCare, folks. These are massive additional costs that were never considered when the sleazeballs in blue suits inside D.C. were discussing and designing this ObamaCare abomination – so we all need to remember this, when we see these RINOs trying to cut a deal with Obama and grant amnesty.

                Amnesty is a guarantee of a total and complete economic collapse of America. And, for anyone who currently has a pretty decent health insurance policy and reasonably good health benefits – they can kiss those benefits goodbye, because they will either become completely unaffordable as the premiums skyrocket – or their health insurance provider will go bankrupt as the economic collapse sweeps across all sectors of American society.

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          • BadAmerican says:

            The Dream Police —Cheap Trick.

            It’s not paranoia, it’s just classic rock, lol.

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        • Kindle says:

          Not so Much,
          Here is an ounce of sanity from the the insane……
          “Nobel Committee Asks Obama “Nicely” To Return Peace Prize.”

          The article is posted at From the Trenches..

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        • Not so Much says:

          That’s funny, thumbs down for asking a simple question.

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      • BadAmerican says:

        @PO’d:

        Spot on Sir.

        At home, I am never more than a few feet from a shotty, and usually have a handgun holstered on my side.

        I believe that being armed in the home as a force of habit is just good OPSEC. Every day carry in the home creates opportunities for target acquisition practice, off hand reloading, low level sight training, etc.

        My girlfriend use to kid me about such “extremes”, but now she quite often teams up with me and we do defense drills, or intruder alert response drills. I am glad she is on our side, I think she might have been a black widow in another life, lol. A mama bear protecting her cubs mindset.

        I, like you, find comfort in knowing that I can defend myself as muscle memory, instead of ” Oh shit, where are the spare mags !!”,lol.

        Be safe Sir, NOMI.

        shoot
        shovel
        shut up
        suds(hic*)
        selebrate
        sleep like a baby………………BA.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Wish my GF would get on board,
          She doesnt want to hear about any of it, says if someting ever happened then well talk about it,
          Tried to tell her that then it will be too late, but just got more guff.
          Hmm
          Not sure how thats gonna play out but i guess ill see huh.

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          • She better hope she can talk while she’s running trying to keep up with you and talk loud enough over your gunfire.

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          • Tucker says:

            Women, I’ve found, are not good conversationalists when the subject is politics. I’ve known a few who might sit and listen when I am trying to explain the issues and the various aspects and contributing factors behind the cultural, social, financial and racial decline of the USA – but, not many females seem to have the ability to understand and digest issues that are often somewhat complex.

            Clearly, male and female brains operate differently. I have spent most of my adult life hoping to meet a woman who was able to carry on an intelligent and informed conversation about political issues, but have not had much success. Thus, I tend to seek out male companionship whenever I am in the mood to discuss politics. It seems to be a ‘guy thing’, for some reason.

            I am often struck by the wisdom of our Founding Fathers, when surveying the incredible damage that liberalism, and ‘feel-good’ feminine thinking has done to our nation since women were given the right to vote. Our Founders had the right idea; they understood that women are too driven by their emotions and while that might be a grand quality inside one’s home, it is a death sentence for a nation.

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            • JustMe says:

              It is not that women do not or cannot understand, they for the most part, do not want to face the truth. The truth is brutally cold and hard, and does not make one comfortable, and/or happy.

              It is far easier to seek another happy, and/or fun moment, than face reality. This is an issue that has been conditioned into not just women, but Amerikan male persons, for the last century.

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          • 41MagMan says:

            Time to trade her in for a new model? ;-)

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      • joshua cooper says:

        exactly anyone with a little common sense can tell that this world cant keep up with itself and pretty soon its gonna fall apart without warning.

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    4. 230JHP says:

      Mac,
      This is short and to the point, thank you for the words of wisdom, and thanks to Levine for his insight. I listened to him last night when making a prepping run to the store. The guy is brilliant, especially when dealing with the US Constitution.

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      • Mordecai says:

        @230 JHP,
        As far as the Constitution, I have heard Obama in a soundbite say, “The Bill of Rights says what the government can’t do to us, but it doesn’t say what it can do to us.” That says it all about why he wants to stick it to us.

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      • reader says:

        I used to read fiction for pleasure. Now I think fiction is becoming fact. Wargaming for what might happen? I’m reading the book, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, by Matthew Bracken. What he wrote as fiction, or fringe, is becoming truth right in front of our eyes. It’s sometimes hard to sleep at night after reading several pages.

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        • JustMe says:

          Please read: Civil War 2, by Thomas Chittum.

          Search, there is a free PDF out there. It is an uncomfortable read, but very prescient.

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      • okiefeller says:

        He’s smart alright,smart enough to be aware that Lincoln was guilty of treason by invading the south.Yet,he continues to hold him up as our greatest president.Therefore,I don’t trust him. Sure,he’s talking about an economic collapse now.But only because he doesn’t want to be left in the dust.Even Levin can’t ignore what is becoming obvious now.To use his own words,he is “running to the front of the parade”.

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      • TrailGuide says:

        The thing with listening to the Mockingbird… is well, he repeats. Don’t be so quick to buy into Levin. He sounds off and appeases when necessary. (follow the money, tip is free).
        Herd mentality – think for yourself and be very, very careful in buying into who is leading you…
        just sayin’…
        I have no points or links – you have to do your own homework; but it hard work to not just ‘Jump’ on someones’ boat because they ‘said’ what you were thinking.

        again… careful… take care who you are bedding with. Some bugs are hard to shake; brilliance can be quite deceiving when it’s oh, so convenient. Levin is a RINO-enabler.

        !..! TG keep prepping every chance you get and turn off the damn MSM – yes, Levin is also… in a weird Mockingbird way!

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      • Heretic Historian says:

        Come on people… half awake isn’t going to cut it. We need to comprehend that our nation was never what we thought it was. Deception is a bitch because admitting you’ve been deceived hurts.

        This little rag-tag site (see link) probably does the best job of sorting out the United States of America vs. the UNITED STATES corporation. We need a firm grasp on what has happened here if we are to act decisively. The Constitution cannot protect you as you are not a party to it.

        http://www.usavsus.info/

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    5. OkieCowboy says:

      Well it’s like my Dad use to tell me, “Son you saddled this Bronc now lets see if you can ride him”. Looks to me like they have saddled a Bronc they have no chance of riding. Good luck

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    6. I have always been of the mind to be as self reliant as possible. Growing p in a harsh environment will do that to you. No fishing, no hunting meant no protein on the table. I knew what it was like to be hungry…

      My Grandparents taught me this as well as the farming side of the family. Later, I taught myself to trap fur bearers and to hunt big game.

      Continuity of Government…that is a good one! Who are they going to govern? The ones strong enough and prepared enough to weather the coming storm are certainly not the kind to be governed by a bunch of candy asses when the skys clear.

      Thaqt is the laughable thing about the PTB, they hole up in their enclaves, suredly stocked with all the niceties, but….they have to come out sometime and society has to go on. You cannot live in a hole forever, or barricaded behind some compound walls and razor wire.

      I’m sure some of us will be fine despite all the doom and gloom. Those of us that are smart enough, skilled enough and prepared enough to handle whatever is coming.
      And I’ll say again, not likely we will be the type of peeps to lay down and say, “Tax me”….lol….

      Whats ours will remain ours and they can have the enclaves and so called safe spots, we will be fine out in the Big Thicket. Don’t come looking for us. You will get your south end handed to you on a platter.

      Terry

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      • Anonymous says:

        My fear is several thousands rounds of ammo, several years of food and off grid comfort in an out of the way, unpopulated place is not enuf !!

        But I guess we’ll see

        If your not ready yet – it might be too late

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        • Prepared Pastor says:

          I have made the same preparations so we can go to ground for a couple years without external inputs. The only risk I see is being too isolated and/or appearing to be a working farm as both would be targets.

          Being prepared is like running from a bear. We don’t have to be faster than the bear just faster than the other guy. We don’t have to hold out forever, just longer than most.

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          • Journalist says:

            Being isolated isn’t the way to go. Whole rural neighborhoods need to become resilient enough to go back to 1800s standards of living if necessary. I hope mine doesn’t have to go back that far. I am promoting growing and processing biodiesel so we can still run logging, farming and other equipment.

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        • Shootit says:

          Looks like we will be doubling the size of the garden and adding some apple trees this spring.

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      • Same here Terry. My pap use to say, “Learn to do as much as you can by yourself son, cause help just ain’t a’commin’. I hear gators are of good size around the Big Thicket.

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      • Zoltanne says:

        I happen to agree with everything you say, Terry Reed, except we didn’t HAVE to hunt for our protein. We did do our fishing and we raised our beef, and looking back on it all, I know that my lifestyle was a direct result of the upbringing I had and the family I came from.

        Those of us who are fairly self reliant now will be fine when the stores close up. Millions survived the Depression and many will survive this collapse as long as we are not oppressed or killed-off by the government.

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      • Theguy says:

        Be sure to check out the new AMC show… “The Walking 90% (Wal-Mart Edition)”

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      • JJsan says:

        Terry,

        The video game series Fallout comes to mind….

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      • AnitaSweater says:

        The absolute first thing to do will be to have the cement contractors go and fill in the access holes after they are in their enclave bunkers!

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      • Rick:) says:

        Continuity of their cushy ass lifestyles, at our expense. Same play, differant actors.

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      • 41MagMan says:

        “Continuity of Government…that is a good one!”

        Agreed, Terry. Besides that, considering how badly these dolts have screwed the pooch, who cares if they continue? Seems to me that we would all be better off if the bastards went underground to hide and an earthquake just buried them permanently.

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    7. OutWest says:

      …..what we have here is…a failure to communicate….
      “Cool-Hand Luke”

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    8. Last Boy Scout says:

      Stalinist commies will kill you.

      Carry a long rifle, or at least have it nearby. For those that can handle it, an M1 Garand and 4 bandoleers (192 rounds) or a bolt action deer rifle at the minimum. Have secure caches in your area.

      Dead Stalinist commies will leave machine pistols and their billions of rounds of poodle popper ammo all over the place. Pick up what you need.

      Also have food, shelter and clothing with an ample supply of antibiotics and battle field medical bags with bandages, scissors, wound repair kits, etc.

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    9. JJsan says:

      Even someone like Levin is now talking about this. Even mainstream is waking up, or they can’t deny it any more and now have to acknowledge these facts.
      Sigh,

      Keep your powder dry,
      JJsan

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    10. rvjer says:

      the key is to keep up on current affairs and hopefully have a couple of days to fringe buy, board up or get to your bug out location. its unsure how guick it will happen but most people will still be waiting for help. i for one will be ready & i feel secure in knowing im in good shape

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    11. scott says:

      My next door neighbor just mentioned his buddy was a drone pilot and upon getting out of the military was offered 150k from a private company to fly for them??? What private company is allowed to fly drones? Shit is so top secret this was about all he could say.

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      • Zoltanne says:

        Contractors, Scott. Somewhere nested in the purchase orders are some awards for services. Maybe we should start sifting through contract awards…

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      • European American says:

        Drones aren’t strictly military, top secret. Forest Service; patrolling for wildfire. Search and Rescue. The list goes on and on.

        “Domestically, different types of drones are now being used on a non-controversial limited basis for border patrol, biological and chemical air testing, geological surveys, livestock and wildlife monitoring, crop dusting, wildfire containment, and search and rescue operations.[3][4] These drones are not armed with weapons, nor are they capable of carrying any. Their use will only increase as drones become smaller and more sophisticated and their cost plummets. Non-governmental entities, as well as individuals, can purchase a wide variety of drones for their own use.”

        I’ve got a (very quite) drone with a camera, only $175. A rather voluptuously, thin and curvaceous neighbor likes to sunbath in her birthday suit.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        There are actually a lot of non military drones, NOAA has some, many different power companies and telcom etc, also research groups and universities, oil companies and shiping companies have them, lots of applications beyond spying on you and I, pretty useful for many tasks that would have been prohibitive if a regular aircraft was used.

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      • Journalist says:

        Can he tell you what vulnerabilities drones have? How can you best bring them down?

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    12. Eisenkreuz says:

      When SHTF we will bring to justice all those who have precipitates this. All those who have plotted to do evil to the American people. Normalcy bias kills. Be ready to change your mindset.

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    13. Well hey…
      Its not like we weren’t told! We just failed to listen…

      Its called FUNDAMENTAL TRANSFORMATION…

      Otherwise known as The Cloward Piven strategy.

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      • Kindle says:

        Piper Michael,
        yep, yep

        “Its not like we weren’t told! We just failed to listen…”
        I would phrase that as “many failed to listen.” I and many others did listen.

        Just saying…not everyone was asleep.

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      • Sierra Dave says:

        Post collapse. IMHO, it should be made law that anyone claiming to be a Marxist, Socialist,or Communist be shot on sight.

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          • Sierra Dave says:

            So they can regroup and come back?

            IMHO, these people will lie, cheat, steal, and decieve to spread their form of government. With them at top making the decisions. Sending people to education camps or worse.

            America is under attack at ALL levels. They are working to destroy us at every level. In the schools. From Hollywood. Government over-regulation. Open borders. Etc.

            It all comes down to a free ride through force.

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          • JustMe says:

            “We’ll probably have to kill about 25 million Americans after we take over.” – Bill Ayers, formerly of the Weather Underground, mentor to Obummer

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            • Sierra Dave says:

              Good decent people are going about their life, Maybe not paying enough attention to whats going on.

              These people have been planning for decades. JustMe points out correctly what they have planned for productive Constitutional prone Americans.

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            • That comment dates from the 70s. The math will probably be revised to reflect a larger population.

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          • lastmanstanding says:

            Fuck Jay Jay…we gave them the rest of the world!

            …and it is still not enough.

            I spend most of my time outside in the mountains along the continental divide…I understand how the earth works.

            There is no way on earth that the planet will let these bastards win…no chance.

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            • Heretic Historian says:

              What if they’ve won before?

              One of the things we’ve been told is that his-story is a straight line and that the “species” is evolving on a linear course. What if it’s not? What if they’ve done this before; each time further enslaving the the human race by its own consent (through deception of course)? This, to them, is perfectly fine because its not their fault that we’re too stupid to figure it out.

              What if every time the Creation tries to purge them, they manage to survive along with enough human slave stock to start all over again with their multi-generational accumulated knowledge intact; “handed down” if you will? Every subsequent manifestation of the human species believes it is the pinnacle of evolution and development because that is what it is told. Each version believes it is above reproach and incapable of being deceived.

              The Creation is forced to temper its response against the cancer because the human gets in the way as a “relatively innocent” bystander, because of its programming. Healing becomes impossible because even though the slave eventually discovers its cage and its captors (and grows to hate them), it still doesn’t know how to, or want to be free, and the Creator can’t make it be free.

              What if every time someone tried to explain this to the human race, they were labeled a lunatic or a madman?

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              • lastmanstanding says:

                It is a repeditive pattern…perhaps ‘win’ was a poor choice of words.

                Let’s use the tech that they have so rapidly developed to enslave us, our kids and grandkids (at our expense) to send them back to hell once and for all.

                That is my prayer.

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          • Paranoid says:

            Sure, What’s that island in the Arctic that keeps being covered with lava? On average it’s nice.

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            • Angelo Mysteriouso says:

              You know, Hitler was really a pretty nice guy.

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              • Angelo Mysteriouso says:

                Don’t listen to that Zionist imposter pretending to be me. I’m the real Angelo, and I say Hitler was a pretty nice guy.

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        • Anonymous says:

          To include all liberals,welfare lifers,and anyone with a handycap placard who’s ” NOT” handicapped !

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        • Anonymous says:

          Also Jane Fonda,Sean penn, and Michele Moore , then set on fire to eradicate any DNA .

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    14. Hilikus311 says:

      Reading a book called “Going Home” it’s about a man trying to get home after an EMP. Picked it up after a recommendation from SouthernPrepper1.

      As far as Mark Lavin goes he’s okay by me b/c he authored the brilliant main argument that was used in court showing how Osama, i mean Obama, violated the constitution by appointing some people into office in 2012.

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    15. Im glad if mickey mouse starts acknowledging whats going on…everyone(almost) has a group of persons they can influence…guys like Limbagh and Levin can reach a group you and I may not be able to talk to…just like Mac reaches this group and Drudge reaches another…the old adage that even a stopped watch is right twice a day applies whenever someone speaks the truth even if theyre not known for it on average….(it certainly doesnt make up for or negate the stupid things they say and do)…we gotta take what we can get from wherever we can get it as long as liberty is promoted…you know the old adage…my enemies enemy is my friend…at least for the moment…dont worry theyll likely say something really stupid next week and be out of our graces for howeverlong…then maybe the week after theyll be back around….the fact that even they are saying things like this though is somewhat encouraging even if infrequent!

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    16. Kindle says:

      Sorry, but I really wish Sen. McCain would just shut up. I’m sick of listening to the pompus senator for life windbag go on about how good drones are. Whose side is he on??????

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      • He’s on McCain’s side and no one else’s.

        McCain is a dirtbag.

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        • Piper claps…
          Scum sucking bottom feeder comes to mind.
          Along with Lindsey G. and all the other RINO’s and neocon’s who had dinner with Dear Leader instead of supporting Rand’s filibuster.
          They are all simply making sure they have a seat at the table of whatever comes next.

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        • OutWest says:

          yeah Daisy~ new name= “Jowls McDirt”….fitting, no!?

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          • Zoltanne says:

            Angelo, last year I heard Hannity and Beck say they support Israel. I don’t think there’s any secretive behavior with them — they’ve publicly stated as much.

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                • Zoltanne says:

                  Angelo, I wrote, ” I don’t think there’s any secretive behavior with them — they’ve publicly stated as much.” Note I did not say “Secret” support, as you mistakenly interpreted.

                  My point is simply this: Those guys openly made statements that they stood with Israel. Last year at some point, Beck traveled to Israel. You are right that in the times I’ve listened to their shows, I don’t recall point-counterpoint because they drive the messages THEY want to be aired. It’s their call, their show.

                  Personally, I’m not anti-semitic, and I will openly say/admit that there are some very strong correlations and definite ties between powerfully-wealthy and politically-strong Jewish people and the NWO backers and players. I am not so entrenched in the subject as you are, nor have I tracked back their lineage.

                  I see your passion, Angelo, but we obviously have different perspectives. You call it “truth”, which it very well may be, but I guess I haven’t arrived to a conclusion like you have.

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        • armed citizen says:

          unfortunatly the dipstick is my senator. I contacted him 3 weeks ago about the gun grab going on. I received his email today telling me it’s a complicated issue and he doesn’t want to harm lawful gunowners. Didn’t say he supported the 2A. I think they cut off his balls when he was a pow. I hope the mechanic working on his private plane was drinking hard that day.

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        • lastmanstanding says:

          The nazi that he is married to pulls the strings for him and his butt buddy lindsey.

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          • Tucker says:

            McAmnesty isn’t married to a Nazi woman.

            His old lady has connections to Edgar Bronfman and organized crime in Arizona.

            Read the book by Jeff Gates, Guilt By Association.

            He devotes a couple of chapters to McAmnesty. It’s like reading an instruction guide on how to do hemorrhoid surgery.

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        • He’ll be all for the use of drones until he finds himself on the wrong end of a Hellfire missle. Tyrants like Obama always end up liquidating potential rivals.

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      • Live free or die says:

        I used to like McCain but now when I see or hear him, he reminds me of a little wind up doll that needs to be retired. He is not a bad man but his time in office should be over.

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        • Anonymous says:

          I have NEVER liked McCain– in 1995 I had the misfortune of seeing that POS in a 4th of July parade in my hometown. Came up to me with his hand outstretched to shake mine- I took one look into his eyes and REFUSED, saying to him that all I saw was a COLD,DARK and EMPTY SOUL! About 20 people heard me say that, including the _____ he married, 19 agreed with me and his wife just about shit herself and gave me a look that would have killed a lesser man. He, like most other politicians, are soulless drones for the Republic! Sorry, gotta go puke in the toilet now…..

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          • Live free or die says:

            Anonymous,

            That is rediculous, to judge a man because you don’t like the look in his eyes, this guy went through hell when he was a prisoner of war. Sure you can hate what he stands for now but what the hell gives you the right to say he has an empty soul. You aint God!

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            • Eisenkreuz says:

              I don’t give a damn about his POW camping trip. The man need to learn to mind his own damn business. I’d like to sit him down and give him a good talking-to.

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      • Shootit says:

        You have to ask the question “How does this benefit me?” Most of the time the only benefit is for the politician.

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      • Sunshine says:

        McCain has sold out the military retirees by shutting down Tricare Prime for most retirees. Ends in October, resulting in higher out of pocket costs for military retirees.

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    17. Eisenkreuz says:

      I don’t recognize this country anymore. What have we become?

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      • Grasshopper says:

        i DIDN’T EITHER, EISEN, UNTIL I read couple websites today that made me cry.. and realize I loved my country all over again.

        One was “NY CITY GUNS” and the other was Pat Dollard website which tells about all the sheriff associations which keep pouring in, saying they will disregard Obummer’s gun grab and will prosecute anyone who tries to enforce bummer’s bull crap.. “not in my county!” Another good website was CSPOA association.

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      • JustMe says:

        America was usurped from within about 100 years ago, and has reached the end of her designed lifespan. We, and our desires for truth and liberty are in the nwo’s way.

        They fully intend on crashing America, but that is not the worst of what is to come.

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    18. Theguy says:

      McCain was and is a complete nut-bar.

      Say what you will, but (last time around) Obama was (sadly… I admit) a better choice than McCain.

      Then again… Garey Busey would be a better choce than McCain… so there’s that…

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    19. Satori says:

      McCain is the dirt bag that gives other dirt bags a bad name

      a national disgrace

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      • NoMas says:

        Thanks to John McCain I am no longer a registered voter. If McCain or Obama was the choice, I figured why waste my time playing their silly little game anymore.

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        • Journalist says:

          We need a third party. After the McCain betrayal, I too refuse to vote Democrat or Republican. But I still vote.

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        • Heretic Historian says:

          Just remember guys that you are only voting (recommending). You are not electing anyone. Preside-ents are appointed by the owners of the corporation and that is not you.

          It could be a ten party system and it still wouldn’t matter as long as TPTB have the time to fabricate and install the personas needed to fill all of the nominations. Your vote is an illusion. The deck is stacked. Their agenda moves on while we pick the fly shit out of the pepper.

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    20. Satori says:

      http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-03-07/governments-worldwide-are-implementing-orwellian-gold-confiscation-today-yo-0

      Governments Worldwide are Implementing Orwellian Gold Confiscation Today. You Just Haven’t Realized it Yet.

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    21. ScoutMotto says:

      Magpul, the high-cap magazine manufacturer in Colorado, is offering Colorado residents a cahnce to order a few mags straight from Magpul, limit five of one type per customer. You must be a Colorado resident.

      http://magpul.com/colorado

      They are offering this in the event the Colorado legislature decides it’s time to ban these magazines. If they are banned, the company is moving to another state and taking their business with them.

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    22. Rudedog says:

      GET READY FOLKS. PUT ON THE ARMOR OF GOD. FIND YOUR COURAGE. FIND YOUR FAITH. STRENGTHEN YOUR FORTITUDE. KEEP TIES WITH GOOD NEIGHBORS FAMILY AND FRIENDS. WE’RE GONNA NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET. DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND AND STAND YOUR GROUND. IN THE END WE WILL WIN!!! FOR FREEDOM AND LIBERTY! DEATH TO TYRANNY!

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    23. braveheart says:

      When neocon cheerleaders start being honest about something, there’s got to be some ulterior motive on their part. Things are coming down to the wire now; I can feel it. My prepping is continuing all the way to the last minute. The more I can get, the longer I can hold out. I smell false-flag in the air, either this month or April. The final conference on the UN Small Arms Treaty is from March 18-28. If the US ratifies that treaty, all bets are off. 2nd American revolution is only a matter of weeks away now. Everybody get everything you can now before the balloon goes up.

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      • Kindle says:

        Braveheart,
        It keeps coming to me also that something major is in store for us in a couple of weeks. After all the years of reading, researching, watching and prepping I can’t remember ever having such an ominous of a feeling that it’s nearer than ever.

        My mind will start going into overdrive trying to figure out what I need to do. I keep hearing “Be still and know that I am.”

        I would say no later than May for sure.

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    24. Apex Predator says:

      THE AMERICAN SPIRIT MUST BE KILLED …

      Take a grain of salt with all you hear .

      Hope for the Best …

      Yet self educate prepare train stock up for the worst .

      I firmly believe AmeriCa’s back will be broken by the 1% nwo njo zog so the globalist dream of a one world banker government can coime to fruition , globalist banker rule of the entire world .

      When ???

      Could happen any time … the globalists are actually 13 years behind schedule on the globalist nwo one world plans plans .

      I HONESTLY AFTER 6 YEARS OF STUDY of THE GLOBALISTS expect them to execute IN AMERIKA a nation wide multiple 9/11′s with nukes , bio-weapons , national electro grid collapse at the same time to force Americans to kneel to the nwo globalists one world govern