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Limbaugh Floats “False Flag” Theory NZ Shooter Is “Leftist” Who Staged Attack To Frame Conservatives

Tyler Durden
March 15th, 2019
ZeroHedge.com
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This article was originally published by Tyler Durden at ZeroHedge.com

Following Thursday’s deadly terror attacks on two New Zealand mosques, which left 49 people dead, radio host Rush Limbaugh mentioned an “ongoing theory” that the shooter – identified by Australian media as 28-year-old Brenton Tarrant, is actually a “leftist who writes the manifesto and then goes out and performs the deed purposely to smear his political enemies.”

“You just can’t — you can’t immediately discount this,” Limbaugh added. “The left is this insane, they are this crazy.”

Tarrant, who was in Pakistan just five months ago – amid what he wrote was two years of planning for Thursday’s massacre, posted a lengthy manifesto before the shooting in which he declared his desire to exploit racial, cultural and political divisions in the United States.

At three points in his manifesto, the shooter also states his intention to spark a civil war in the United States by triggering crackdowns on the Second Amendment. In his laundry list of motivations, the shooter spends the most amount of time discussing this goal, which he believes will ultimately lead to a “fracturing” of the U.S. along “cultural and racial lines.”Breitbart

“With enough pressure the left wing within the United States will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the U.S. will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty,” reads the manifesto.

The shooter expresses both white supremacist sentiments, while also describing himself as a socialist “depending on the definition,” and an “Eco-fascist” – declaring his support for “environmentalism,” “worker’s rights,” and “responsible markets.” The manifesto goes on to describe Antifa, communists and Marxists as “anti-white scum.” He also identifies black conservative Candace Owens as the “person that has influenced me above all,” and told viewers in a video to “subscribe to PewDiePie,” a comedian and video game streamer who has come under fire for racially divisive bits.

Before committing the massacre, Tarrant inscribed political messaging on his weapons invoking Hitler, mass migration and the Battle of Tours – in which Frankish and Burgundian forces repelled invading Islamic forces of the Umayyad Caliphate.

Possibly fuelling the “leftist” theory Limbaugh raised is evidence that Tarrant visited Pakistan in October, as confirmed by the New York Times – staying at the Osho Thang Hotel. Owner Syed Israr Hussain said “He was normal and polite during his stay,” adding “There was nothing out of the ordinary.”

While there, he appears to have posted over Hussein’s social media account, where he wrote of the 97% Muslim country:

“Hello everyone my name is Brenton Tarrant and I am visitong [sic] pakistan for the first time. Pakistan is an incredible place filled with the most earnest, kind hearted and hospitable people in the world, and the beauty of hunza and nagar valley in autumn cannot be beat.

Unfortunately many tourists are choosing other countries due to the stress, difficulty and steep requirements of obtaining a Pakistani visa.

Hopefully in the near future the Pakistani government and Mr Imran Kahn will make the necessary changes to the visa program so to encourage tourism and make it viable once more for the world to come and experience the beauty of Pakistan”

Trump on white nationalism

President Trump on Friday told reporters in the Oval Office that he doesn’t think white nationalism is a rising threat – telling reporters “I think it’s a small group of people who have very, very serious problems.”

“If you look what happened in New Zealand, perhaps that’s the case. I don’t know enough about it yet,” he added.

Limbaugh’s comments below:

The idea that there is far more crazed right-wing terrorism in America than there is any other kind is nothing more than a media narrative manufactured out of whole cloth, and it’s just waiting for events like this to take place, and this is what happens, folks. I don’t know, you probably get up and you see this news story and you just — in addition to all of the emotion you have over the sheer shock, terror, and horror of it all, then you realize you’re going to face a whole day of the politicization of it. You realize you’re going to face a whole day of Donald Trump being blamed for it, or you being blamed for it, or things you believe in being blamed for it.

Another thing that happens here when these events happen, you have all kinds of speculation that erupts. And there is an ongoing theory — Mr. Snerdley, correct me if I’m wrong about this. There’s an ongoing theory that the shooter himself may in fact be a leftist who writes the manifesto and then goes out and performs the deed purposely to smear his political enemies, knowing he’s going to get shot in the process. You know you just can’t — you can’t immediately discount this. The left is this insane, they are this crazy. And then if that’s exactly what the guy is trying to do then he’s hit a home run, because right there on Fox News: “Shooter is an admitted white nationalist who hates immigrants.”

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  1. DinduNuffinMane says:

    Where is the media outrage when the muzzies put Christians in cages and burn them alive or gangrape children in England? Meanwhile at the very same time the shooting was going on in NZ Israel was launching more than 100 missiles at Gaza and killing way more “innocent” Muslims than the shooter could have hoped to kill and again, no outcry.

    Not shilling for muzzies at all, I just want people to realise the blatant double standards.

    • Menzoberranzan says:

      Please visit thereligionofpiece.com for the truth of the islamic savages.

      • Menzoberranzan says:

        thereligionofpeace.com Sorry, spelling error.

      • Historian says:

        Please visit judaism DOT is for the truth about (((them))) and (((their religion))).

        • Menzoberranzan says:

          I have. It’s called the Old Testament. You are the one that should read it.

        • Historian, all 3 of the Abrahamic religions have serious flaws for sure. Judaism being the oldest and Islam the youngest. It is very clear if you take the time to do some research and a lot of reading to know the truth of it all. The Dead Sea scrolls and Nag Hammadi are the underlying truth of all of it.

          I always wonder when people attack Israel for fighting back as rockets are landing in their cities, they are the villains to respond ? Or the many terror attacks inside their cities for decades now, well before 9/11. Why anybody believes the propagandistic garbage printed or televised by PRAVDA/MSM escapes me ? I have no doubt Israel has made mistakes and over reacted , but after years of it all who would not ?

          During the era of ISIS ransacking the Yazidhis, murdering and raping freely, the only help they received was from the Kurds and Israel. The Kurds were their only security force and Israel setup emergency hospitals and living areas and provided food and shelter as well. But you never heard about that and it is a fact. Again there are some serious dumb asses out there in this world who will believe exactly what they are spoon fed ! Right now many Christians are being brutalized and murdered and not even a peep ? While any Jews are villains and Muslims victims of hate ? After their actions I am not exactly sympathetic.

          I did see the video of NZ and it does raise a lot of questions and perhaps some sort of false flag, not unlike Ft Hood that was allowed to happen or Boston or Riverside or Florida twice . And there is far too much evidence 9/11 was allowed to happen to preempt the wars. And what was the golden key of those wars, the religions of course ! We got no oil at all, that too was just lies. But it did all ratchet up hate and resentment now didn’t it. The Muslims went well past extreme with ISIS but we also created a lot of that junk by destroying their countries on lies. So is it the chicken or the egg ? One would think people would figure out these wars are shams. I was offed a job in Afghan in 2012 and it was a lot of money to be sure and all tax free if you stayed for 2 years. I did not go and glad of it. Mainly because BHO was the pres and I knew he would get a lot of contractors killed and he did. Most of those deaths were never known. But by then I was not on board with any of it for price or any bullshit story.

          Here is the video see for yourself what seems real ?

          https://trendingviews.co/video/mass-shooter-livestreams-new-zealand-christchurch-mosque-attack-4-dead-or-injured-5810.html

    • Someone in the Back Room says:

      Too many puppets out there. They are too afraid of loosing all they have, so they capitulate and do what their masters want.

    • JustMe says:

      False Flag, I’d wager.

  2. Frank Thoughts says:

    My first reaction was “wow, it took 2 decades for nuts like this to get provoked into striking back against militant Islam?”.

    9/11 was in 2001 and since then the quantity of people murdered by Islamic radicals around the world and in the West runs into the hundreds of thousands. Islam has hardly helped itself by flooding into the West in such large numbers ( who thought there were so many in New Zealand of all places??!).

    I think it is time to give the Islam migration thing a rest, say for 20 years, and instead study what is going wrong. No good will come from what governments will do and that is double down with the flood.

    After 9/11 I did not notice any sympathy from the police and authorities for ordinary people. Instead we got 2 decades of harassment and surveillance, TSA emptying old ladies colostomy bags. And that was when they knew most of the terrorism was coming from Islamic radicals.

  3. Someone in the Back Room says:

    Now all we have to do us wait for the MSM to come up with their own manifesto and commit (pay) one of their own to do something similar.
    Totally plauseable?
    Sure, why not.

  4. He spends very little time on the US. Out of a couple thousand lines, probably less than ten lines are about the US. And he predicts that after the civil war over the second amendment, which will divide along racial lines, that whites will once again rule North America and put an end to the melting pot.

    As far as Pakistan, that has very little significance. He travelled all over Europe. In fact, he said that is what changed him, after, it seemed, every little village he went to was over run with ME migrants. He purposely tried to go to smaller towns but it was always the same he said. He doesn’t care about brown people as long as they stay in their own countries and don’t dilute the Caucasian bloodline. Go read it for yourself before these pundits cherry pick parts of it to suit their own agenda.

    Rush is a blowhard mostly (my opinion). I was a dittohead starting back in the late eighties, but when he backed NAFTA and turned out to be a pill junkie, all the while downing drug use, I quit listening to him. I think he says whatever it takes to make money(he actually has said something to that effect).

  5. What I want to know is when Publisbers Clearinghouse is going to send the money.

    False flag? Could be. Remember when Israel bombed the Liberty so they could blame Egypt. We heard about it nonstop for… oh wait, that was covered up. Almost no coverage of that one. But it was just Israel, and no one can criticize Israel because they will call you an antisemitic, white supremacists, nazi and holocaust denier. And what’s worse, a hater and a bad person, and what would Jesus do.

    .

  6. Seminole Wind says:

    These events keep on happening more often by both Communist and others. Civil war this Spring after the snow melts. Get your party favors kids!

    AMERICAN THINKER today had an article by the same guy who wrote two weeks ago that we are already in a Civil War, William Gensert. His article called for physical confrontation of such groups as BLM and Antifa by ” Conservative Forces” .

    Military Asymmetrical Ground Army= MAGA

    • bb in GA says:

      SW:

      How is it going to shake out?

      Are the Commies/Antifa types just gonna start blowing up car dealerships or banks or Chik-fil-a stores or what?

      Harass, Doxx, Beat-Up or Assassinate prominent Conservative Politicians and Pundits?

      Is their goal to disrupt commerce ? Blow up interstate bridges and the like?

      Power grid targets near major cities ?

      What are their Strategic Ends?

      What would be their tactical goals and objectives ?

      <bb

      • Seminole Wind says:

        All good questions Mr. bb, I really don’t have an answer fur ya.
        This I do know, the Communist WILL NOT TIRE, WILL NOT SLEEP, AND WILL NEVER GIVE UP AND WE SHOULD NOT EITHER. It’s all over for them and their plan to flood the U.S. with “fresh” voters if the wall gets built and President Trump gets re-elected. So they will become violent like they have done so often in the past.

        Saw this phrase, “Socialism is a political system that you vote your way into but have to shoot your way out of”.

        God bless and watch out fur dem hogs

        • Seminole Wind says:

          Remember, Soros money paid for a good deal of the rioters during Ferguson and there were snipers shooting at the Police there also. Commiefornia and the People’s Republic of New Mexico have pulled their National Guard unit off border duty, WHY?

          Communism is all about resistance and the replacement of Western/Christian based society with their wing nut religion. Look into Marx, this guy was a truly evil man. Some say The Antichrist even?

      • JustMe says:

        The left’s only goals are to own your mind, then kill you.

    • Montana Guy says:

      Gensert’s first article made a good case for fighting. His second article is way too bias in favor of Trump and Republicans (by omission). Gensert appears to be a shill for them.

      I was ready to fight in 2011 when the Republican’s NDAA was signed gutting our Bill of Rights. But we did jack. When I fight it will NOT be for liberty-destroying Republicans and gun-confiscating Trump.

      • Seminole Wind says:

        If you stand against the Communist take over of our country by voter fraud you are a shill for the GOP? Hummm?

        Let’s deal with the worst danger, 100’s of thousands of Illegals crossing our border , and the Drug Cartels making BILLIONS on the process.

        I realize that most Libertarians stick to a weird set of political untruths, I guess it’s all the pot they smoke?

    • THe Preacher says:

      re AMERICAN “THINKER”

      An oxymoron if EVER I hear one!

    • Anonymous says:

      Quite weapons for quite wars.
      You are already on Red List.
      Law enforcement assets used to round up Americans “quietly”.
      It is already here. That is what the so called “patriot act” is for. Not for so called “terrorist”. The act allows government to round up Americans with no trial, no lawyer, no due process. Then Obma put into action that murder of Americans allowed.

      This is your “Free” country.

      Many many people involved with firearms have been suicided and MURDERED by???

      Leftist NWO Communist Foriegn nationals embeded in US government and US Law enforcement are suiciding, rounding up. Murdering Americans since 2002.

      ALWAYS ALWAYS have cell phone on your person. Turn it on as soon as ANY Law enforcement pulls you over. IMMEDIATELY call someone that cares about you and inform them that you are pulled over by Police and tell your friend your location and what entity pulled you over. Cops will ALWAYS TELL you to put phone away. DO NOT. Put phone on speaker and out of your haned but so as phone can record Police interaction. Video is best.

      YOUR LIFE DEPENDS on this. Police are disappearing people on made up warrants.

      Many former military are being suicided with help.
      These former military men are not killing themselves.

      Harvey county regional correctional facility
      Newton, Kansas
      located 60 miles north of Wichita Kansas
      They have been murdering Americans there for YEARS.
      You are dissappeared. No phone call. No bail. No lawyer.
      They confiscate your assets. Kill you with drugged food and drink. Then your internal organs are harvested for sale on black market.

      Not one law enforcement entity will stop these murders.
      FBI is arresting rich people who buy childrens way inot university. War on the rich. War on the well to do.
      College cheating is what FBI spends millions on.
      Witch hunt against fairly elected President is what FBI/DOJ spend millions and waste time/money on.
      The law enforcement assets are infiltrated by communist, leftist, anti Americans. They hate Trump. They hate anyone with skills or tools to defend themselves.
      They hate you.
      The FBI locked up Martha Stewart. Remember that?
      The FBI murdered unarmed woman holding a child in her arms. Civil court found FBI sniper guilty. Forced them to pay reperations for the murder.
      FBI burned women and children in Waco.

      This is your government at work.
      – – No accountability for crimes commited against Americans.
      – – No accountability for treason witch hunt against elected president Trump.

      FBI was in car behind Muslim nut jobs who attempted killing innocent Americans at art contest in Texas.
      FBI DID NOTHING.
      A Local Police officer took down the muslim shooters with only a side arm against armed Muslims with rifles.
      The outstanding marksmanship and courage of the local Police officer prevented a Masacre by Muslim wack jobs against Americans. READ THAT AGAIN.
      The local Police officer saved the day.
      FBI did NOTHING. FBI knew the nut jobs were armed and intent on evil. Yet did not arrest.
      Guess the college fraud against well to do people more important to FBI? They used swat against soccer moms.

      Where was FBI swat when Muslim attack was in progress in Texas? They allowed the Muslims to act.

      The Local Police officer saved the day. Good job!

  7. Valery Vebelfeltzer says:

    ““False Flag” Theory NZ Shooter Is “Leftist” Who Staged Attack To Frame Conservatives”

    I thought the shooter pretty well said as much.

  8. Hegelian dialectic. Problem, reaction, solution.
    And you know what the solution is? Take away guns.
    The NZ prime minister already said the gun laws in that country will change.
    See how that works?
    Makes you kind of WONDER if this EVENT was PLANNED. You think?

    • Plan twice, prep once says:

      I was in New Zealand for nearly a month, drove the length from Aukland to the southern tip. Beautiful country. Nice people there, we stayed in a couple homes with families. It was like being in 1960’s America.

      Generally New Zealanders are anti-gun. Lots of farming and ranching, so gun ownership is pretty high. There’s one gun for every four adults in NZ, but large numbers of guns are held by farmers and ranchers who have a need for multiple calibers. Interesting silencers are sold standard on a lot of riffles. They’ll tell you, you need to kill the rats in the feed without scaring the sheep.

      NZ is very anti-weapon. Don’t even bring a pocket knife there. If you have a multi-tool, bury it in the bottom of your knapsack or you risk prison. Anything that appears to be a weapon is illegal in NZ. Only police are allowed weapons. Gun owners are expected to keep firearms locked up at all times.

      I stayed in one hotel in Aukland that actually blocked all US gun web sites.

      I visited a gun store there, and told the owner I was an American tourist just browsing and that I knew there was nothing there I could buy, he confirmed that thought and said enjoy. I read up on NZ gun laws. To get the basic purchasers ID that this guy reportedly had, you must apply to the police. Show you are an upstanding member of the community, and you have the means to safely store the weapons. Police are supposed to do a thorough background check. Personal protection is not cause, unless you can show you are under threat. Valid reasons for firearms ownership, you are a farmer or rancher, you are a target shooter and a member of a shooting club, you are a collector. The permits are issued at the discretion of police, who can refuse without cause.

      This shooter was Australian, had been in the country for just months, NZ and Australia share a similar legal system and pretty much have open borders, but it would have taken years for this guy to become a citizen. Notice news reports are very sketchy on his residency and immigration status, and how he landed a firearms purchasers card.

      From what I know of NZ gun laws, this story stinks of a globalist false flag.

      The basic firearms ID this guy had would have allowed him to buy a basic Connecticut compliant AR-15 with just a seven round magazine. His magazines looked larger, but for him to purchase them in NZ they would have been factory blocked to just seven rounds. Notice the stock has an integral grip. NZ has all the liberal anti-assault weapon definitions in their laws already.

      This really looks like a false flag.

      • Plan twice, prep once says:

        Final thought of the NZ shooter.

        He seems to have had extensive funding, via untraceable, unaccountable bit coin. He was able to travel the world, as he groomed himself to become a mass murderer. Yet the MSM worldwide reported on the Bitcoin angle, being his source of funding almost before they new his name. Huh?

        How did the MSM unanimously and worldwide arrive at this talking point simultaneously? Where is the proof, it was virtually the first fact about the shooter the media reported on? The CIA will tell you there is no such thing as a coincidence. Meanwhile the world accepts it without question.

        • Frank Thoughts says:

          This is a great opportunity to pass the Freedom to Worship in Peace Act. The Act will come with the following mandatory provisions:

          1) All places of worship must be 5g compliant and provide all-around surveillance
          2) All places of worship must have millimetre wave detection gates at all entry points
          3) All worshipers must present biometric ID before entering place of worship

          Most mosques are ramshackle affairs and Islam is run on an ad-hoc basis. This means there is no leadership and nobody takes responsibility for anything. This means mosques will need to be forced to sign security contacts with Israeli companies if they want a license to operate.

      • Deputy Dog says:

        Plan Twice..your points are excellent, tend to agree with you..the LEFT will do anything to try and disarm us.

  9. Asshat says:

    its definetly a leftist hit job.cmon all of these attacks they have a manifesto that blames the political right and white people for everything. Total bullshit. Only a dumbass couldn’t spot the pattern. Shit it’s so predictable. Muzzys are just pissed off with israel and Terrorizing the world over it. It’s like a Jew and a muzzy arguing over who the bigger victim is Then it gets ugly. In the end white people are to blame.

  10. rellik says:

    Took me a while but I found the video of the shooting. I have it downloaded but will not post it here. Almost 17 minutes. The Aussies taste in music was not too bad. For something that well planned it seemed poorly executed(pardon the pun). He acted like it was a joke. You can find video on 4chan look in the news.
    I wish I could say I found it disturbing, but I was thinking more, of, how would you defend against such an onslaught?
    I really don’t GAS about Moslems I’d just as soon they were eliminated from the face of the earth, but the same thing could have happened in any church. all I could think of is to make the punishment for such a crime so horrific that no one would ever attempt it and make sure most men are armed in case you have a nutcase that tries anyway.

    • Stuart says:

      “all I could think of is to make the punishment for such a crime so horrific that no one would ever attempt it”

      You are talking about religious zealotry Rellik. A zealot works for an eternal reward. All other considerations pale in comparison. The only way they can be stopped is to kill them.

  11. Angry Beaver says:

    I just watched the full 12 min video this guy layed out some serious punishment.
    He started at the entrance and blows two guys away standing at the door he calmly walked around shooting. Controlled 3-4 round bursts. Efficiently reloading.
    He’s not yelling screaming not saying a word. He walked around another minute and walked around again shooting each and every one in the head. Strolled out to his vehicle swapped weapons drive down the street commentating in how they went down.
    He wasn’t gloating felt more like he was discussing video games. He stops and pumps the 12 Ga. Pops out his pass window and drops two more walking down the street.
    THIS DUDE WAS DELIVERING PUNISHMENT.
    Killed em all men women children..
    Lest we forget….they started this shit.
    Demonize us then wanna flood our borders..
    Our leaders capitulate to thier shit no go zones my ass.
    And all threw house not a shit was given.

  12. Angry Beaver says:

    I found the link on live leak but they are trying to take it diwn.

    • rellik says:

      AB,
      Most all links are now down by now. I haven’t figured out why everyone wants to censor this stuff. Everyone should see how the cows that end up as your 1/4 pounder is killed and processed. Everyone should see what these human animals do when they murder defenseless people even if it is a Moslem.
      My video was almost 17 minutes long probably from a local, Aussie, or UK station.
      Killer had problems reloading and dropped a few Mags.
      What surprised me was when he shot through the windshield, it did not shatter!

  13. Aust ended up with gun control in 1996 after a mass murder at port arthur in Tasmania.The killed to injured ratio (blamed on an intellectualy impaired man) was incredible.Special forces shooter no doubt respisible that day.Have a look at the killed to injured ratio at this N.Z. massacre.The only info l’m looking for now is-how many shots were fired.

    • Cede says:

      Art Regan, shots fired … about 240 – 270 in the mosque. Out side the Mosque he fired 25 round directly down the footpath / sidewalk out on the street to the left, then turned around and fired three rounds along the footpath / sidewalk to the right … all aimed shots. As he approached his car parked down the side lane/alley a woman ran from cover along the street, he hit her three times from about 10 feet, as she lay in the gutter calling for help he hit her again … at least one direct head shot …. so to answer your question about 300 rounds. He was no amateur that’s for sure and he’s had training …. but his drills were shit as in, he was a sack-a-shit

      As for a false flag? Well hard call. There are calls to change the name of Christchurch City to something else be cause it spells out ‘Christ’ and ‘Church’ and the lefties are screaming out about how offensive it is to moosies and the local rugby team ‘the Canterbury Crusaders’ are being called out to change the team name because of … you guessed it …. the Crusaders of the Christian crusades is offensive!!!! The whole country have become over night victims! And guess who’s been on New Zealnd Television praising the Prime Minister for suggesting all auto and semi auto weapons will be banned? Barack Obama, Hillary and Bernie Sanders. Unbelievable! And New Zealanders are lapping up the vital support being given from America. I used to think there were 70 million sheep in New Zealand, but if you include the four million people who live there too and add it to the 70 million actual sheep …. there’s your answer, 74 million sheep!

  14. Angry Beaver says:

    Relik I too noticed that the first time he fired in the car. After a second viewing I noticed the lower 1/4 of the windshield was heavily spider webbed. My guess is to keep recoil to a min he was using target shot like #10 or 11. If you notice hrs using a semi auto shotgun at the door way and looses 7 rounds as he advances. Very little muzzle climb.
    When he shot that woman through the fence
    And came around the corner and followed up with two headshots the top of her head flew 10 feet. I don’t think that was fake.
    Dude was ice cold.
    This was done in new Zealand a Commonwealth country and its hitting here too. To most of the world the word (Commonwealth) means the British Empire so this will recoil on our country as well.
    I’ve already heard from relatives in Toronto. I’m told more violence is starting amongst the “moose limbs”
    They will want Christian blood brains and balls.
    I’m prepared. I’m ready. I shall finish the game.

  15. Its gonna come home…….be aware.

    • Seminole Wind says:

      Jim, thumbs up. The church we attend just spent 40K on security doors and each Sunday has an armed guard standing duty outside. We’re not even in a major city but in a small town in Florida.

      Because our Pastor preaches against so called ” Homosexual marriage” , legalization of pot, and Abortion, he has had numerous death threats.

      The church is within 20 miles of Gainesville Fl. the ” Berkley of the South”.

  16. Seminole Wind says:

    Got courage? View the video ” Praise in in the Storm” by Casting Crowns.

  17. ElGreco says:

    This happened in the city of “Christchurch”. How convenient!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Anonymous says:

    Sponsored by the “Usual Suspects” – without a shadow of a doubt.

  19. Warchild Dammit! says:

    As Kipling wrote,”The Awakening Of The Saxon”

  20. That is what it is going to take, in order to reclaim our civilization. You can’t vote your way out of this. If you could, they would make it illegal.

  21. Bill Peck says:

    Of course it’s a FF, haven’t seen anything more obvious in a long time.

  22. Old Guy says:

    Limbaugh is not a reliable source I think many believe that the pole shift and related clatyclismic events will wipe entire populations from diverse places on the planet. Yet there will be other diverse places that are safe. So they are dispersing their people to every nook and cranny on the planet. Insurance that their race and religion survives the so called aftertimes. Its Not that necessary that planet will suffer clatyclismic change. Only that those migrating hordes believe its going to happen. Their leaders use the pole shift as a catalast to further their goals. Just the same as the Greenies use the false glow bull warming lie. (now Climate Change) to further their agenda. False flag or not. Some core concept belief caused the shooter in New Zeland to take the action he took. I still believe its all a dog & pony show. There are evil folks in high places who try and plant seeds of dissent to further the NWO-UN & anti white agenda.

    • Stuart says:

      I have been listening to Rush for 30 years. I was shocked he made this statement. He is the opposite of the Alex Jones type. He is most assuredly a reliable source. One develops a lot of insider contacts over a 30 year career.
      I have never heard him make statements like this before. So whether you like the guy or not, you must admit he is no fool.
      If Rush thinks there is something to this false flag idea, you can pretty well bet he has the inside skinny.

  23. God bless you Mr Limbaugh. Whether the New Zealand attack turns out to be a FF or not, I appreciate you for having the courage to ask the question. Free Speech is sorely lacking in the US.

  24. Frank Thoughts says:

    Calm intelligent analysis is required at this time. Context and facts are needed.

    Why are Muslims leaving their many states in droves? It is because most Muslim states are environmental disasters. Islam leads to exploding populations with many horny males who can’t find work and self identify by forming a family. All the countries in the Middle East are environmental disasters and are kept going through oil and gas wealth. They import most of their food and even their workers. Saudi Arabia is lashing out at the other Muslim states for a reason: they want their oil and gas. It is a Hail Mary pass to save their state.

    Another thing to keep in mind is this: Islam functions through welfare payouts to encourage families. And they distribute opportunity, power and wealth through Bakhshish or bribery.

    This is how they are used to living and working. Now, what do you do if your population is exploding and they do not know how to be useful and create real wealth? You export them to the generous Western welfare states and leach off them. It is an unfortunate fact these people are not the best migrant source. They cost a lot to integrate and often never do. By far the best value immigrant is Asian women. They are generally very beautiful and very well educated. They are ambitious and work hard and tend quickly to move into high paying jobs. They don’t surf the web plotting terror attacks while drawing welfare payments.

    Immigration needs to be smarter and based on who costs the least and gives back the most. No man who is taking time off to pray five times a day is ever going to be a productive worker.

    • Kevin2 says:

      ” No man who is taking time off to pray five times a day is ever going to be a productive worker.”

      They don’t care about productive workers, the goal is global homogenization, economic, cultural, one world. It’s likely that in a couple of decades significant percentages of labor will be obsolete. One big blended unhappy family.

  25. Sgt. Dale says:

    Rush is right. He and I don’t always agree but this time we do. This thing is going to get worse before 2020. The left has pushed a LION into a corner and they are about to pounce.
    Its coming folks so please don’t get lax now. Now is the time to build.
    Sgt.

  26. southside says:

    I’m surprised Rush even came out calling it a false flag. Usually he doesn’t use language like that. If it is true,he is a lefitie,we’re in a crapload of trouble. People are going to believe the MSM narrative. Oh,boy, we are soooo screwed.

  27. Siri says:

    False flag sure seems so, His manifesto is so revealing to his true agenda to incite hate of whites, racial violence,enact radical gun-laws,using sympathy for Islam as victims to convoke more calls for Jihad terrorism.Strange to see no blood.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UaeEsaucts

  28. Traitor Hator says:

    John 8:44 anyone?

  29. The Deplorable Renegade says:

    Everyone knows my thoughts on this subject. Definite false flag and not surrendering anything. OT but important: I just buried my Dad today. Died of heart failure at age 87. He’s back with Mom now and won’t suffer anymore. He’d been having trouble for awhile so it was just a matter of time. I’ve never felt so alone…..

    • Mountain Trekker says:

      It always takes some time to get over it when we lose a close loved one, I lost a daughter in a car accident years ago and both my parents since then and there is a real loss that we feel in our hearts, but time will heal and just remember you do have lots of good friends right here on SHTF. So physically you may be alone but there will always be somebody here to lift you up. And just remember the Good Lord is always there. Trekker Out

    • Deputy Dog says:

      Deplorable..my sincere condolences my friend..God bless.
      DD

    • Yahooie says:

      Just want to echo what MT said.

      I remember when my mother passed on to join Dad; I felt like an orphan despite having several sisters. The point is that when the last parent goes, it’s tough but time helps a lot.

      Hug the loved ones near you and remember the good times with him. That helps too.

    • JustMe says:

      My condolences.

    • That Would Be Right says:

      Sorry for your loss DR.
      My father is almost 89 and still getting on a tractor and pulling weeds….but….the decline is there and I encourage you and other posters like myself to cherish the good times spent together…those memories you created together will live on.
      Rage against the dying of the light……but if it looks like a good party on the other side then what are you doing here!

    • Norrak says:

      Sorry for your loss. Both my parents have passed and I can understand that feeling of being alone. It is very disheartening, but rely on and trust in God. You do have friends on this site who care.

  30. Mountain Trekker says:

    False Flag or just a Nut gone rouge, anyone that can walk into a Mosque, Synagogue, Church, School or Theater and just start shooting helpless unarmed people is the lowest and most Cowardly, vile, and evil person in the world. And the Globalist are as evil as they come and their ultimate goal is to disarm people anywhere in the world where they have the means to resist, and they use every event such as this to further that cause whether in the U.S. or NZ. each event is just another step closer to their goal. Trekker Out.

  31. the Lone Ranger says:

    My deepest condolences on your loss, Deplorable Braveheart. You will be in my prayers and thoughts. I am so glad you have family at your BOL.

    May God’s Healing Consolation be with you, and may your father’s soul and the souls of all the faithfully departed Rest In Peace, Amen.

  32. Scarecrow says:

    Testing 123 testing ,Rush is right !

  33. Frank Thoughts says:

    The irony is this: mosques will now need Israeli type protection; in fact the world leaders in defence against terrorists are the Israelis. A compact needs to be made between Israel and all the world’s mosques to ensure security and screening takes place every time somebody tries to enter five times a day. Millimetre screening needs to be done five times a day and 5g surveillance placed on all mosques. This will ensure they are safe places for worship.

  34. Stuart says:

    It won’t insure anything whatsoever.
    It is worth noting that muslims have had to be forcefully ejected from every non-muslim country they have ever been in after they achieved a significant population. That will not change this time either.

  35. Sandra Maddox says:

    Trump says few terrorists in one breath and then in the next talks about the millions and millions of terrorists and drug dealers that are crossing our border. Interesting how his facts can change so quickly, but that is nothing new for him.

  36. gun control = a**hole

  37. RestEasy says:

    Some interesting points. But not much of a source.
    http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2817.htm

  38. Frank Thoughts says:

    Today, a Muslim man from Turkey launched a lethal mass attack on a Dutch tram. And the government response is very different to the New Zealand attack. What if the Dutch attack was addressed the same way?

    1) There would be calls to release funds to protect all places where Dutch people gather
    2) There would be endless TV images showing Dutch women wearing tradtional wooden clogs
    3) Politicians would be shown wearing clogs and kissing and hugging Dutch people
    4) The Government would urge an increase in Dutch people allowed to immigrate to Turkey
    5) There would be endless TV programmes about how we all should be more tolerant of people who eat cheese and croquettes

    Are Muslims getting better treatment in tragedy? You decide.

  39. Hi everyone.Art in Australia.lve looked at the footage,and heard a lot of the media coverage.There is a police station very close by to the 1st mosque, where were the cops ? 20 mins to arrive ? Wow.Ok 50 dead (forget about the wounded for a moment)in the video this guy only drops approx 6 people .All of his other shots are fired at unmoving bodies, are these people already dead ?
    Has the real shooter already been and gone ? How many shots fired in total will be a vg question.When Aust got gun control because of the port arthur shooting-the shooter was vg that day as he fired 60 shots for 35 killed 22 wounded and he stopped 2 moving vehicles.He twice used the Beruit triple.Do people seriously believe that just anyone can be that good with a gun ?? The patsy was a poor fellow called Martin Bryant who has an IQ of 66 and is intellectualy impaired.Special forces marksmen train big time to be able to achieve scores like that.Is NZ going to have gun control ? l waited for thier PM to say the words and l didnt have to wait for long.If something needs to be foisted upon the people but there will be push back then the powers that be simply create a problem and they are ready and waiting with the solution.This so called shooter is most likely just another MK Ultra robot/drone who has been programed.How many of you have read Pikes letter to Mazzuni ? Dont be surprised if these evil bastards send another shooter into catholic gathering for example, the muslims would then get the blame wouldnt they ? Getting the picture ???

    • Cede says:

      People have started to hand in their weapons in New Zealand already, yet there’s no official word on what will be banned and what won’t. Wouldn’t surprise me if they try and ban everything.

      Interesting side note, the Prime Minister, Saint Jacinta was a member of the World Youth Commumnist Party when she was younger. She was spotted by Hillary a few years back. Hillary sponsored Saint Jacinta to come to the US and got her into collage in Arizona. She returned to New Zealand, got into politics and hello ….. at 38 she becomes the country’s youngest ever Prime Minister! Stinky stinky smell of fishy ….

      • Frank Thoughts says:

        She was trained up by the British and is tight with them.

        I heard Turks are handing in their weapons after the shooting in Holland yesterday (not!!).

        Turks are men.

  40. Wake Up says:

    What happened to original reports of shooting with 5 shooters including a female?

    Why does every “alt news” run with single shooter story when the am news day of shooting first reported and SHOWED BLURRED VIDEO that was of the Livestream, showing the one making video stream other shooters firing….

  41. Thanks Cede.240-270ish you say, OK
    I hope we end up with a shell count at some point.
    Still can’t help thinking the counter terrorist marksman had already been and gone before the MK Ultra patsy arrived.
    For anyone who wants to see the footage-Brighteon.com,
    I still think this guy is mainly shooting into people who are already dead.You can see there are bodies in the corners in some of the rooms,and l figure he genuinley shoots about 7 people only,how many of those 7 are killed outright or only wounded-we will likely never know.
    As for the empty brass ? Gee,everybody, have a look at him fing outside in the daylight-the shells are vanishing like farts in the wind.
    Reminds me of a playstation game.
    After somebody announcing his arrival in the street with all of that gunfire,l would not be dumb enough to be standing at the front door to be shot.This 1st victin all but greeted the shooter with coffee and scones.Anyway enough l guess, will wait n see what happens next.