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    Is America On the Brink of a Civil War? “If We Defend It Together, We Can Avoid Bloodshed”

    Mac Slavo
    December 24th, 2015
    SHTFplan.com
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    dont-tread-on-montana

    It could happen at any time.

    At least that’s what many experts think.

    There are gross violations of the Constitution and the rights of the people at every turn. It is a daily staple of the news cycle. There have been potential flashpoints on the scale of Lexington Green (which started the American revolution in 1775) over and over again.

    And people have never been so divided at any time in the collective memory.

    Between threats of gun confiscation at the federal level, and repeated incidences of SWAT teams and military-like police forces abusing their power against people in their homes and at protests, there are many reasons to think things have gone too far. The PATRIOT Act, the NDAA, the TSA and Homeland Security all represent the occupation of the American people and the complete destruction of civil liberties.

    Will something spark a revolution or a civil war, or will the powers that be lose the ability to pit people against each other?

    Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes said (in the video above):

    “If we defend it together, we can avoid bloodshed here at home. But if we allow our police to militarize and turn into an occupying army, or we allow our military to be used here at home domestically against the people, there will be another fight. And there should be.”

    As Rhodes notes, many law enforcement officials have spoken out about the unconstitutional acts of this government, and have indicated that they will stand with the people. This is the best outcome, but not the only one that may happen.

    Even at the top of the system, there are many who have rebelled and dissented against the unconstitutional and delusional acts of the sitting president. How much more can the system bear before it cracks at the foundation?

    The You Tube channel Verify Events Research writes:

    Award winning democrat Seymour Hersh revealed the US military was defying the White House and the CIA by providing intelligence to Syria against ISIS. While Obama is expected to move against guns in the next few days (another “conspiracy theory” coming true) it is good to put this issue into perspective and to point out the obvious red line of the US public on this issue. The system is disintegrating at the seams and with the US military revolting against the executive branch a civil war can start at any moment.

    When the founders finally declared independence, it came with a well-thought out list of the many times when the British occupiers went too far in abusing the rights of the colonists, and it formed the basis of the fight for freedom.

    While not all of abuses listed in the Declaration of Independence still apply today, many do. Read them for yourself and see if it applies to the corruption in Washington today:

    • He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    • He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    • He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    • He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    • He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    • He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    • He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    • He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    • He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    • He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    • He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    • He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    • He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    • For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    • For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    • For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    • For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    • For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    • For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    • For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    • For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    • For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    • He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    • He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    • He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    • He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    • He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    Will Americans still defend their rights today?

    How many more abuses will the people take before they fight back? Will those in power back off if people refuse to cooperate any longer? Or will this country roll over and descend into full-blown tyranny like so many others before it?

    H/t SGTreport

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    1. Jim in Va. says:

      when people have nothing left to lose,it will happen. The government is waiting out its older citizens and brainwashing its younger ones. In time it will become more powerful and the younger ones will not know what they have lost(the winners write the history).

      • Mike in VA says:

        Jim hopefully it never does but I agree it will happen.

        May you and yours have the best Christmas.

        It feels like Christmas in July in Virginia today.

        If you ever need anything just ask.

        Merry Christmas!

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Mike and Jim, I just got to the BOL an hour ago and it feels like July here in GA. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

          • apache54 says:

            Braveheart and all on this site (even the trolls)
            Merry Christmas and may we all take our country back!!

          • Acid Etch says:

            I have a septic tank and no water heater in my BOL.

            The septic system wont flush half the time because of the backpressure.

            The lack of hot water is a major problem.

            It takes much more fuel to heat food than you think it will. At a minimum you should have a kerosene or Coleman fuel stove as a backup.

            People need to practice bugging out and going off grid. There are always complications in real life.

        • Jim in Va. says:

          mike; What general area do you live in?

        • Nobama says:

          We’ll see what happens after Obola pens several new unconstitutional executive orders soon. As a lame-duck, Obola in 2016 may unleash the most tyranny ever yet to be seen.

          • Equorial says:

            Of course. To further divide would be to conquer. For him to invoke an ‘uprising’ like no other would be precisely what he wishes ….the sooner the better. In this manner, he can bs The USA into believing Martial Law is Constitutional (it is NOT)! I believe you can bet ur ass that ‘heaps’ of manure is going to be flung out of The Beltway Area perhaps as soon as this week (and it is eerily quiet from all the ‘sneaks’ up there). Another civil war? Oh yes, without a doubt considering that ALL THOSE WHO SHALL STAND AGAINST US ARE ALREADY HERE – AND WE PAID FOR IT WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS (isn’t that a ‘hoot’)?
            Nasty year ahead? Mercy, you can absolutely count upon it, and with regard to tyrannical actions …such things will be unprecedented (quite likely) to exceed all prior ‘known’ histories. One must realize that many, many years and millions of man-hours have gone into this NWO bullshit (as it is nothing less than total “world domination” slowly being brought to full fruition by the most dangerous ppl on the planet …so of course the majority of sheeple are all for it …and at the same time about 1/2 of the earth is unaware it’s even taking place).
            Against the USA, we’d have a damn good chance of making it work. Against the entire world? We can’t do it without the gear presently being used by the military …I DO hope the military is “running intel” to those who need it most, and are saying f**k KingBarack. (Over there the ‘boys’ know fully-well what ‘his’ agenda truly is …and certainly can be said to be more than tired of it.

      • FreeSlave says:

        “Is America On the Brink of a Civil War? “If We Defend It Together, We Can Avoid Bloodshed””

        There are Christmas cards with the phrases: “Peace on Eartfh and Goodwill towards All Men.”

        Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

        Merry Christmas to all on this blog!

        • durangokidd says:

          If only 10% of the One Million Gun Owners (100,000) in New York State created Freedom Cells of just 5 men each; 20,000 Patriots could eliminate the NWO Globalists over a long week end before the 101st Airborne could be organized and deployed. That doesn’t include similar numbers of gun owners in Pennsylvania and Virginia.

          Obola/Jarrett/Holder were afraid to confront Rancher Bundy (who was brazenly breaking the law) because of the stand off with Oath Keepers.

          The last thing the NWO wants is for Patriots to start taking potshots at their National & Local Traitors who are complicit with the treason that has been systematically institutionalized over the past Administrations of four Presidents.

          Once the shooting of Muslim Refugees/Jihadists starts in Europe where One Million Muslims have been forced upon the population, it will be open season in the USA too. Already the Mosque in San Bernardino has been torched. Religious war will be the trigger that will eventually take down the NWO Globalists.

          I posted here at least two days before the revelation of the Joint Chiefs defying Obola, that Retired Flag Officers were privately conjecturing the steps necessary to end the Administration once and for all. Dissention exists THROUGHOUT the Top Brass for the Jarrett Administration.

          It could go hot and violent in 2016, with the eventual indictment and arrest of Major political figures; if Obola makes a misstep. 🙂

          • FreeSlave says:

            Your comment is encouraging, DK. Have a great Christmas!

          • Huh? says:

            The Hersch “article” claiming there was covert support for Assad by the US Military was/is TOTAL BS so your assertion that his claims prove there is some “rift” between the military and the Obama regime is totally off base!! In his old age Hersch has resorted to making stuff up out of whole cloth. His previous “big scoop” about Osama Bin Landen was also total BS as it really just supported the gubermint’s contention that OBL was killed by special forces in Pakistan while the real truth was he died from kidney disease in December of 2001!! If the main stream media supports a story like the Hersch piece (on the military’s covert aid for Assad) you can be assured that what is being reported is a bald face lie . . . .

            • durangokidd says:

              “Dissention exists THROUGHOUT the Top Brass for the Jarrett Administration.”

              I stand by my statement.

              This includes active and retired FLAG officers. They don’t just drink martini’s at the Officer Clubs. Its where they bond !!! 🙂

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            How many missteps does it TAKE? He’s broken the law, most often the Constitution itself, more times than Bonny and Clyde, Al Capone and – well, pick another one! For that matter he’s shown a willingness to sell the entire country out piece by piece to the countries of the U.N. given the chance. He could certainly care less about the Constitution!

            The guy is a “Manchurian Candidate” who was slid into place by the money, contacts and sheer power of the so-called “elites”. His mission seems to be to counter and eventually negate the Constitution and Balkanize the country.

            • durangokidd says:

              Gun confiscation would be the kind of example that I am referring too. 🙁

              • Shooter on the Grassy Knol says:

                There are 3 things that you will probably see when the SHTF:

                1. Assassinations
                2. Attacks on the power grid
                3. Attacks on Government Data Centers.

                Many of these acts will be done by insiders and lone wolves.
                Some of the states will secede from the USA starting in the South or the North West.

                • Ian MacLeod says:

                  I wouldn’t put making local water toxic AND confiscating food “to be redistributed” – probably to the D.U.M.B.s or a landfill. A grid-down situation would be designed to kill off as many as possible. Fewer to haul off to the concentration camps that way.

                • Ian MacLeod says:

                  I wouldn’t put making local water toxic AND confiscating food “to be redistributed” – probably to the D.U.M.B.s or a landfill. A grid-down situation would be designed to kill off as many as possible. Fewer to haul off to the concentration camps that way.

                • Ian MacLeod says:

                  I wouldn’t put making local water toxic AND confiscating food “to be redistributed” – probably to the D.U.M.B.s or a landfill. A grid-down situation would be designed to kill off as many as possible. Fewer to haul off to the concentration camps that way.

          • Michael says:

            “Jarrett Administration” – Finally someone gets it!!

          • william smith says:

            I have serious doubts about the joint chiefs doing anything other than protecting their positions and retirement. They have had plenty of reasons to act before now. But, then again I’m kind of jaded in that the older I get the less faith I have in the masses.

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            ll people here need to do is to read the eyewitness accounts of how Germany was taken over by Hitler. That strategy and set of tactics still exactly the same – because they were drawn up by the same so-called “elites”! This was written by Kitty Werthmann:

            http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/010/fascism.htm

            As long as Obama follows this set of instructions, because most people here (anywhere, really) are “decent people” it will work. The only way I see to stop it is to forestall it and expose it as widely as possible. The hard part there is that it requires We the People to move FIRST, since the “alphabet agencies” and Congress AND the military will patently NOT. The Constitution permits it; it was set up that way for a reason. The People are the rulers here; those in the government are SUPPOSED TO BE our employees, not our rulers. When they begin acting for their own benefit or for an ideal that is antithetical to our interests and rights, it’s time for them to go.

            They’ve already shown beyond doubt that they’re willing to assassinate opposition whether it’s legitimate or not. They’re prepared to continue to militarize police and have them shoot us down in the streets or in our homes, killing everything there right down to pets. They just don’t quite have enough of those – yet. What do you supposed would happen if every State sent representatives to D.C. and required them to pack up and go? Even carrying a mandate from every State in the Republic, they’d FAIL. D.C. was always a Rothschild creation outside the Republic; that’s why they wanted it, that’s why they can and DO act against our interests.

        • darrin says:

          Yes obama has always lied
          Never trust him

      • Todd says:

        I agree Jim, I’m 53, retired Air Force and I cannot believe how young Americans have been brainwashed, along with so many other Americans. The stuff that’s taking place today was unheard of when I was young. I pray the majority will come to their senses, stop fighting each other and direct their anger/energy towards the government, they are the reason behind all this discontent! Merry Christmas & God Bless!

      • laura m. says:

        Seems nowdays it will be mainly older men and women doing the fighting. Younger ones (with few exceptions) will play along with gov. agenda like ignorant cowards and wimps. Like the EU is today, the males are gelded cowards and few protest Muslim invasion and rape of girls and women. We will lose unless there is a sudden realization and action among younger self absorbed men who are addicted to electronics. Freedom cells with small groups under six to defend and stand up is a must along with logistic back ups. see online article: leaderless resistance by Louis Beam before there is a Tet offensive by Jihadists and the train derails.

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree, that why they have had a program in all the schools to totally demonize guns, kicking children out of school for making their hand into the shape of a gun or drawing a picture of a gun…this is all designed to get the younger generation to be less supportive of gun rights.

        2016 is Obong’s last year, so you can expect all hell to break lose

      • darrin says:

        O bummer has to move now as many are sick of his enforcing laws he likes while ignoring others.
        Truly the worst president ever
        He truly supports evil

      • Wee Liam says:

        That’s not the way it happened in the Soviet Union, East Germany, Albania, etc. It was the young that revolted.

        There’s still hope. Not a lot, but a little, at least.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          I’m 60 now; I was born to a WWII vet (Mom) and a Korean war and later Vietnam vet (Dad). I joined for the tag-end of Vietnam, as did my younger brother. (NOTE: just to keep things straight, the closest I ever got to a war zone was East Oakland; I am a disabled vet as well). The adults from back when I was young would already have revolted, held elections, remove any authority from D.C. and done whatever else they had to do! The things I’ve written on the Net have almost certainly bought me a ticket to a camp with the sole exit being the smokestack. Well, I never expected to live forever, nor do I expect to ever reach one of those camps; not if I have anything to say about it – and I will!

          Liam, in the examples you noted, I don’t think they’d been massively poisoned and conditioned by other means first like the youth here. We oldsters saw what was going on here long before the kids did – those who HAVE. I’ve bee avoiding the crap with GMOs, toxic additive, etc., even at the cost of body weight! I don’t own a TV – just a computer, and the V.A. is disgusted with my refusal to take vaccinations. Whatever happens here though, I’m sure the’ll wait until things are at the worst possible moment. They’ve already made “having too much food on hand” an instant accusation as a “hoarder and likely terrorist”, and of course ownership of ANY kind of deadly weapon is going to bring another “terrorist” charge, as will be refusal to cooperate with “government orders” and so on. It’s funny, but the older I get, the less cooperative I feel concerning people who believe they have the authority to give me orders. The urgency is always THEIRS, NOT mine!

      • Jim in Va , good analysis. They create many illusions to mind eff them asses and it works ! even with older people (over 40) that should know better many times. Pretty obvious we live in a sort of matrix or collective insanity created for us by the control freaks we call government and the corporatocracy they have created.

        Last eve I watched the documentary “Sons of Liberty on AHC. i would urge everybody to find it and watch in its entirety. It is excellent and a great source of our history and many little known facts.We are now in the same exact situation our fore fathers were in with a tax repressive government that is clueless,arrogant,ignorant and completely out of control with powers they have stolen from us or simply created for themselves.

        If we do not stand up against them we will deserve exactly what we get and nothing less! I am convinced we will see an outlier event bring it ll to a head via martial law here in USSA today ! we shall see.

    2. Sgt. Dale says:

      This is one hell of a thing to be thinking about on Christmas, but we should.

      I pray that it won’t, but I can’t see any way it won’t. The Turds in DC are trying their best to start one. With Gun control, abortions, shoving the gay agenda. Taxes, PC B.S. the list goes on and on and on.

      If it does start I’m going to do my best to be on the side of the folks that want to restore the Constitution. I will do everything I can do to protect my family and friends. For me I know that I know what to do and how to do it. I pray to God that I don’t ever have to!

      Merry Christmas to ALL!
      Sgt.

      • Mike in VA says:

        Sgt

        Merry Christmas to you my friend. May God give you peace and joy this Christmas. May he grant you health and success in your undertakings.
        If you ever need anything know that you can call on me and I will do my best.

        Merry Christmas.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Sarge, that’s right. It’s a damn shame we have to think about something like this on Christmas Eve. I just got to the BOL an hour ago for a week of fun, i.e., practicing my survival skills. I already know what side I’m on and that’s the side of the people and restoring the constitution. Nothing for me to think about. I already thought about it and made my decision when I saw Mt. Carmel aka Waco burning on TV. Once DC starts the war, and they will, they’re going to regret it. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND EVERYONE HERE.

        • Sgt. Dale says:

          “B” 1776
          Merry Christmas my FRIEND!
          Sgt.

        • Anonymous says:

          What will the govt regret. I don’t see anyone doing a damn think accept handing over their guns and being marched to their deaths. If the American people had the fortitude to stand up against a tyrannical govt, they would have done so by this time

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Anon, I’m sure there will be SHEEPLE who are against guns that will be marched to their deaths, but NOT people like us.

            • Ian MacLeod says:

              I’m 60 now; I was born to a WWII vet (Mom) and a Korean war and later Vietnam vet (Dad). I joined for the tag-end of Vietnam, as did my younger brother. (NOTE: just to keep things straight, the closest I ever got to a war zone was East Oakland; I am a disabled vet as well). The adults from back when I was young would already have revolted, held elections, remove any authority from D.C. and done whatever else they had to do! The things I’ve written on the Net have almost certainly bought me a ticket to a camp with the sole exit being the smokestack. Well, I never expected to live forever, nor do I expect to ever reach one of those camps; not if I have anything to say about it – and I will!

              Agreed, Braveheart!

              Something everybody might want to look into is this site – it has lots of info on the Rothschild strategy and tactics I was talking about above:
              http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/the-venetian-conspiracy/

      • Hilldweller says:

        Merry Christmas, Sarg…

      • wayne says:

        Sgt.
        I Agree with your summation. Now that Blacks and White realize what is going on, They Throw in the Muslims As BOGEY MEN, Climate change, Aliens. Anything to distract us. IMHO.
        Yours in Service:
        Wayne

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        When we’re required to “make nice” to ignorant rapists and savages clearly SENT as a disruption, I suspect there IS NO “right way to behave”. They act as though we owe them everything, including sexual access to any women they run across, free homes and anything else they want. I’m an old Texan with probably not much time left no matter WHAT happens here. I’m also a disabled vet, out of an old military family who ALWAYS join during times of war. This seems to be the Rothschild target for their “End of the World” scenario that was centuries in the making. They’ve used this set of tactics to disrupt and take over other countries in the past; it looks like it’ll work here, too. I’m not looking forward to it, but nobody gets out of this life no matter what anyhow. I’m an American; I’m proud of what my country is SUPPOSED TO BE, and sad to see it going the way of Nazi Germany. Now I know why history has been scrubbed from schools – and why kids are taught to dislike reading.

        We’ve been, and continue to be, set up. If enough of us fail to awaken and fail to find enough courage to act on our own behalf, I see no hope to prevent a Collapse. After that, they start rounding people up, killing those who refuse to go, and then killing most of the docile as well. That’s the Rothschild/Rockefeller plan we’ve been presented with, and they want only 10% or a bit less of the population surviving. A Collapse would fill the bill nicely for them. Almost everything has been rendered toxic – food, water, air, you name it, even in the out-of-doors. Survival is going to very hard; retaliating once it’s gone that far will be out of the question. Do what you can awaken those around you, but if they’re like my family and friends, they’re “sick of hearing about all this conspiracy theory BS! Shut up with it!” Good luck and God bless!

    3. Mike in VA says:

      I honestly believe that violence will happen sooner than later. That is all part of the plan. You can see the politicians doing there best to cause it.
      Will it be a civil war. I don’t know if I would call it that. There will not be boundaries like there were in the civil war. There will be violence and fighting throughout the land. The fighting will be among different classes, religions, and races. It will be between those who have and those who have not. It will be over protecting your rights, your loved ones, and your stuff.I keep saying that we must be careful not to let hate for religion, race, the military, the police, or any other thing divide us so that we may remain strong and unified. There are good police, military, races, and religions. There are bad in all of those too. Criticizing groups as a whole plays right into what the elite want. If it becomes a situation where my house and yours are tiny Alamo’s then in my opinion we lose. We must band together and stand for the bill of rights and the constitution. If we allow those in power to continue to cause hate and division among free Americans then a strong man will rise. I fear a dictator will truly be our future on the other side if we make it through.
      Please consider what I am trying to say on here. Be careful constantly criticizing whole races like jews or blacks. Whole organizations like the police, military, or church. There is never total evil or total good in any of these. There are just people. Some like you and me that will be standing with us to defend the cause of freedom. We must win and stay focused on the main point and that is freedom and a return to it.
      If we don’t then all is lost.

      May you and your family have the most blessed Christmas ever and may love and freedom be present in every one of your households. The gift I can give to each and every one on here is my offer to help anyone in any way I can. That is what we need as we head into 2016. Together there is no government or nation that can stand against us. Apart anyone has the ability to put and end to each and every one of us.
      My God bless you all and bring joy this Christmas to your heart and household.

      • FreeSlave says:

        “Be careful constantly criticizing whole races like jews or blacks. Whole organizations like the police, military, or church.”

        Amen Mike!

        That being said, I do constantly alert folks to the malignant cancer of socio-political-economic liberalism.

      • sean says:

        Mike, I totally concur with you. A civil war these days would be more like the breakup of Yugoslavia with ethnic groups and warlords doing horrendous things to each other to settle old scores rather than a strong organized attempt to reestablish the constitution. Sure there would be many dedicated to the reestablishment of constitutional government but once the chaos starts the vast majority of people in this country are either completely happy with living as sheep or totally out for themselves and will jump on the chaos to set up their little feifdom.
        Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ and know that truth, justice and the eternal kingdom are found in him only.

      • I agree, we must unite or all is lost. Endless demonizing of other Americans is not going to stop these abuses. Tptb spend a lot of time dividing us into groups in order to conquer. I am for working as team.

      • Hilldweller says:

        Mike…

        Well stated. We need each other as a united front. Unreasonable hatred towards a single group or faction does no one any good.

        God Bless , my friend, and I share your offer of help. We need to join together if we are to defeat this coming uprising. And it IS coming.

        As Sgt says, aim small, miss small

        God Bless, fellow patriots. Merry Christmas….

        HD

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        A LOT of cops shave said that is TSHTF, they’re taking the badge off and heading home to take care of their own. The military are the ones – especially the younger ones – who are subject to 24/7 mind control. Even so, a lot them will take off the uniforms, take their weapons after reporting the “lost” and head home. It’s my hope that when push comes to shove, Americans will come together and fight. At this point there’s little direct push against the people besides the sabotage of the economy, the ecosystem and such to fight back against.

        The thing that worries me is that a handful of military who side with the illegal “government” of D.C. against the rest of the country (and military more than most tend to take a view of High Command like the Brits think of Royalty) will have access to the most powerful weapons that have ever existed. It wouldn’t take many nukes, or using HAARP and other high-tech weapons against us to end a revolt as soon as it started. There’s also been talk that the highest-ranking military were at some point required to take a personal oath of loyalty to the President, though this was kept quiet.

        Any military can tell you that no one knows what’s going to happen once a war begins. I hate to think of it actually happening, but like most of us, I’m pretty sure we’re going to find out, ‘way too soon for my preference.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          I hate to pass this on, but not long ago while shopping, I heard a woman say, “But if the President gives an order, then ANY American HAS to obey it!” I tried, gently, to explain her error, but she was adamant; she thought the President is a King and has not a CLUE as to his legal limitations! Now I have to wonder just how prevalent THIS attitude is! God help us, I hope there aren’t many, but ANY are too many!

          Have a wonderful Christmas, folks. Don’t forget to wish The Man a happy birthday, even if a Pope DID change the actual date. It’s the thought that counts. Right?

          • smokey says:

            It’s a very common attitude, especially among the left. If an Executive Order were issued tomorrow ordering citizens to turn in all AR15s or some such thing, the left will consider anyone who does not do so a felon, who deserves everything that will happen to them. Loss of employment, legal costs, confiscation, jail time, etc., etc., whatever happens.

    4. Ideas Time says:

      We are just about one Bundy Ranch event from kicking it off. As soon as the corporate thugs masquerading as ligament govs start shooting at a Bundy Ranch event, expect return fire in mass.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        Like anything organic, the whole Bundy/standoff/etc. thing has picked up some parasites who have hijacked it, especially the money sent as donations. To a great many people that delegitimizes the whole thing, and they turn away. They need to boot the ones who are there for the “image” and the adventure of standing against the government and never mind the reasons. Those are overgrown children who watch too much TV, or they are, as I said, parasites.

    5. swinging richard says:

      We will worry about it later. For now, Merry Christmas to all here at the Plan.

    6. Mike in VA says:

      I honestly believe that violence will happen sooner than later. That is all part of the plan. You can see the politicians doing there best to cause it.
      Will it be a civil war. I don’t know if I would call it that. There will not be boundaries like there were in the civil war. There will be violence and fighting throughout the land. The fighting will be among different classes, religions, and races. It will be between those who have and those who have not. It will be over protecting your rights, your loved ones, and your stuff.I keep saying that we must be careful not to let hate for religion, race, the military, the police, or any other thing divide us so that we may remain strong and unified. There are good police, military, races, and religions. There are bad in all of those too. Criticizing groups as a whole plays right into what the elite want. If it becomes a situation where my house and yours are tiny Alamo’s then in my opinion we lose. We must band together and stand for the bill of rights and the constitution. If we allow those in power to continue to cause hate and division among free Americans then a strong man will rise. I fear a dictator will truly be our future on the other side if we make it through.
      Please consider what I am trying to say on here. Be careful constantly criticizing whole races like jews or blacks. Whole organizations like the police, military, or church. There is never total evil or total good in any of these. There are just people. Some like you and me that will be standing with us to defend the cause of freedom. We must win and stay focused on the main point and that is freedom and a return to it.
      If we don’t then all is lost.

      May you and your family have the most blessed Christmas ever and may love and freedom be present in every one of your households. The gift I can give to each and every one on here is my offer to help anyone in any way I can. That is what we need as we head into 2016. Together there is no government or nation that can stand against us. Apart anyone has the ability to put and end to each and every one of us.
      My God bless you all and bring joy this Christmas to your heart and household.

      • slingshot says:

        Mike in Va.

        Hard to put your finger on it.

        I feel it will come down to numbers. Numbers unemployed. Therefore who is able to feed themselves or family. Notice the rescue missions and food banks are in trouble. The rise in crime and the death blow if the Banks go under. A touch of terrorism to mix it up.
        There will be fighting along all lines. People letting out their frustration and built up hate. Then the government will step in to try and stop it and that will only fan the flames as many will see it as tyranny and a dictatorship.
        You can see it right here in our microcosm at SHTF.

        The Pope, Trump, Clinton, Adelson, Soros, Buffet, Putin,
        Merkel, Obama. Lots of Money. Lots of Influence.

        Some is better than none.

        Are you ready?

        Merry Christmas to all.

        • Mike in VA says:

          I am ready. I have been ready. I hope we have more time but we all must be as ready as possible for the pain that is coming.

          Merry Christmas to you and yours. Concentrate on what is important today. Enjoy this day of love with your loved ones.

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            I wish you all luck! I had things almost set, when some “help” stole about 70% of it all. They were local junkies, and all they had to do was make sure I got too little sleep, steal most of the food and make sure I dropped ‘way too much weight, and that’s that. I’m a disabled vet; there’s no way in the world I can make those losses up now. *sigh* Well, it is what it is. Nobody gets out of this life alive, and “Those of the Enemy you take with you are your Honor Guard in Hell!” Don’t go alone!

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Mike, there’s no question we’re headed to war and it will be anything but civil. I dread it but I don’t see how we can avoid it now. I’ll do my part to protect me and mine. I may not make it all the way through. As Jed Eckert said to the freed prisoner in the original Red Dawn, “Die standing up!” “Every man dies. Not every man really lives.”

    7. slingshot says:

      The simple way to start it all is to make a law that states that after a certain date. NO One can have a gun of any type. Can Not purchase one or have one given to you. No more guns after that date. Only those who have guns before the set date will be Grand Fathered. To be enforced by Birthdate similar to buying alcohol. So those who can not buy a weapon because of the age restriction now. will be barred from future purchase.

      You don’t need gun confiscation. As everybody plans on happening.

      • Darren Stevens says:

        The war on gun owners and individual liberty is going to start occuring in the doctors office like never before.

        Now that we have a government full of communists and jihadis insurectionists that are in control of our healthcare.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        They can make it a law that no one can walk on the ground because we’re wearing down the dirt too much and it’s running out. Let ’em. Enforcing it, though, is something else again!

    8. Mike in VA says:

      I left a comment regarding this article that is very dear to me. It went into moderation for some reason. It is my thoughts on things that are going to determine the victor in the painful situation that is coming. I hope all on here consider it. To me it may be the most important thing for us a preppers and patriots.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        Mike in VA – Is this the one?

        “Please consider what I am trying to say on here. Be careful constantly criticizing whole races like Jews or blacks. Whole organizations like the police, military, or church. There is never total evil or total good in any of these. There are just people. Some like you and me that will be standing with us to defend the cause of freedom. We must win and stay focused on the main point and that is freedom and a return to it.”

        I agree completely! If we let anyone or anything separate us, turn us against each other, we’re lost – America is lost. There are actually a relative few against us in this; it’s just that those are the richest people on Earth and a handful of greedy bastards who think that “All for me and NONE for you!” is the way to live. An perfect example is ANY so-called “elites’; Darth Cheney is a really great example. Some of the stories about him are enough to make ANYONE believe in a Devil!

        The poor who don’t make or GET enough money to set much, or anything, aside are going to be in a horrible position. The drug addicted, the hungry are going to be out looking for ANYTHING in droves in short order after all deliveries are shut down. Water is going to be the hardest; it takes up a lot of space, it’s heavy, and it goes FAST! Hard times a’comin’, friends. I find myself praying in my mmind a LOT lately; it’s almost a running conversation; well, maybe it’s a tad one-sided, but He’s nothing if not a good listener, and you can BET the Bad Guys are making sacrifice (of OTHER people’s lives, not their own of course) to THEIR “god”, aka Lucifer. At least, that’s the one they claim.

        • Mike in VA says:

          Ian

          You nailed it. That is why we have to stick together. We will have to fight the small number of elite and there hired mercenaries. Then we will have to fight mobs of people who have grown up with no morals and are now starving.
          I think we are out numbered already for sure. Some of the mob will die before the fight though. We must stick together to defeat what is coming or all is lost. The lord will see us through one way or the other.

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            Mike in VA – In some ways I have an easy time of it. I was raised by two old patriots, and Dad was military – Navy AO. Mom had been Army during WWII. I was Hospital Corps. I was raised with the American ideals, and that included equality between people of different colors. My grandfather’s best buddy and partner in crime (Grandpa was a moonshiner and rum-runner). Anyway, To me skin color has never been any more significant than hair color; I’m unable to see people as anything but individuals, each one unique.

            All of these agencies and individuals always seem to slide over into serving the “elites” one way or another, and THAT says mind control to me. If we cannot unify as a people, we’re done. That’s all there is to it.

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            Mike in VA – In some ways I have an easy time of it. I was raised by two old patriots, and Dad was military – Navy AO. Mom had been Army during WWII. I was Hospital Corps. I was raised with the American ideals, and that included equality between people of different colors. My grandfather’s best buddy and partner in crime (Grandpa was a moonshiner and rum-runner). Anyway, To me skin color has never been any more significant than hair color; I’m unable to see people as anything but individuals, each one unique.

            All of these agencies and individuals always seem to slide over into serving the “elites” one way or another, and THAT says mind control to me. If we cannot unify as a people, we’re done. That’s all there is to it.

    9. Kevin2 says:

      I think the NSA and other letter agencies are focusing on both the US Military Officers and State legislatures. That Robert E Lee thing, “My heart is lay with Virginia” happened once and they have the capacity to covertly head that off in the future.

      As the 2nd Amendment eventually worked its way to the US Supreme Court the new focus will be the most circumvented Amendment from FDR on, the 10th.

      The Founding Fathers debated, drafted and ratified a Constitution because it was the right thing to do but it was more importantly the only logical governance rulebook for a nation socially, geographically, culturally and economically as diverse as the USA. Soviets were told that the US would eventually Balkanize. It happened to them first but I think we’re only one economic fall from it occurring here.

      • John_Allen says:

        @ Kevin2
        I rather like the Articles of Confederation. It required unanimous consent to do anything. Therefore, not much was proposed or done. That government is best which governs least.

        The Hamilton wing of the Founding Fathers couldn’t have cared much less “what was the right thing to do.” They had power lust and wanted a national government that allowed them to concentrate power unto themselves forever.

        American society in Federal times was hugely less diverse than it is now. Plus which, few of the population had, or expected, political participation. They deferred to their “betters.”

        Finally, it isn’t the Constitution, which sailed through the approving vote, that ratifies our liberty. It was the Anti-Federalists, who conditioned their approval of the main document on their being a listing of rights. insisting on a Bill of Rights, that gave us that.

        On the Winter Solstice and evermore may you never thirst. RBE2000, Noon of the Solstice.

        • shropster says:

          Aaron Burr, where are you?

          • Ian MacLeod says:

            There was a lot frustration at the deliberate slowing down of governmental processes while the government was being created and written down. Too many limitations, they said; too much cooperation between opposing sides needed, etc. I read a speech by Thomas Jefferson once – haven’t been able to locate that either lately – in which he explained to a large gathering of the “intelligentsia” of the time that making changes in the law or writing and passing new ones was made deliberately cumbersome and slow. It encouraged legislators to think about it long and hard before putting in the effort to make changes. It shouldn’t BE easy to do, and I’ve always agreed with that!

    10. This is all wrong. The real problem isn’t the police or the government. The real problem comes from this godless, compulsive,entitled, society. Everywhere you look there is thugary, rape, murder, greed, etc

      Your neighbor’s kid is a drug addict who rob’s e ery body, but your concerned about the police? Please, give me a break! All of this is absolute misdirection and a waste of time. I know where the real problems are but this is boogeyman crap.

      • saoitse says:

        partially agree w/the boogeyman aspect.
        how the hell are they gonna confiscate firearms to begin with ?
        go door to door–hi ! me and my guys are gonna fk up your home and take what we find ? c’mon,huh ?
        nationwide ?
        BUT there are toooo many out here victimized by the courts and the law enforcement and we cannot get our rights respected.
        now i am NOT SAYING that they’re all POS, it’s just that when YOUR LUCK OF THE DRAW has you w/ a POS. you are stuck and screwed and will get no where going along w/THEIR game plans regarding filing complaints and grievances. in fact you MAKE IT WORSE AS THEN THEY SCREW YOU FURTHER via harassment and stalking.
        ….been there and STILL THERE.
        NOW LOOK AT all the authority some agencies HAVE.
        WHO EMPOWERED THEM ?
        the people ?
        no.
        they empowered themselves and THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
        they can confiscate money,property, take your kids on a bs anonymous phone call, etc, AND YOU ARE SCREWED.
        you have to PROVE INNOCENCE at your cost and that right there is unconstitutional and illegal and DON’T EVEN IMAGINE that the ruling class gives a chit.

        this is why SOME are praying for TSHTF cause THEN, in the free for all THEY WILL settle scores,get their family members HOME FREE and let the others set off the end scores.
        and yeah, we know that scenario will be deadly BUT we are all together and not worrying about what conditions are they in-

        LOL regarding the little neighborhood junkies ? simply tell the POS that if ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS to your home, your family, your property-you ARE coming after him. no police bs.
        YOU WILL SEEK HIM OUT AND GET RESTITUTION AND THEN SOME-
        NEVER FAILED US.
        and we
        re dealing w/them and their jones since the 60s as there’s ALWAYS MORE MORONS replacing the dead 1s/

    11. KY Mom says:

      I think I need to read this every year at Christmas.

      Christmas 1881

      Pa never had much compassion for the lazy or those who squandered their means and then never had enough for the necessities. But for those who were genuinely in need, his heart was as big as all outdoors. It was from him that I learned the greatest joy in life comes from giving, not from receiving.

      It was Christmas Eve 1881. I was fifteen years old and feeling like the world had caved in on me because there just hadn’t been enough money to buy me the rifle that I’d wanted for Christmas. We did the chores early that night for some reason. I just figured Pa wanted a little extra time so we could read in the Bible.

      After supper was over I took my boots off and stretched out in front of the fireplace and waited for Pa to get down the old Bible. I was still feeling sorry for myself and, to be honest, I wasn’t in much of a mood to read Scriptures. But Pa didn’t get the Bible; instead he bundled up again and went outside. I couldn’t figure it out because we had already done all the chores. I didn’t worry about it long though; I was too busy wallowing in self-pity.

      Soon Pa came back in. It was a cold clear night out and there was ice in his beard. “Come on, Matt,” he said. “Bundle up good, it’s cold out tonight.” I was really upset then. Not only wasn’t I getting the rifle for Christmas, now Pa was dragging me out in the cold, and for no earthly reason that I could see. We’d already done all the chores, and I couldn’t think of anything else that needed doing, especially not on a night like this.

      But I knew Pa was not very patient at one dragging one’s feet when he’d told them to do something, so I got up and put my boots back on and got my cap, coat, and mittens. Ma gave me a mysterious smile as I opened the door to leave the house. Something was up, but I didn’t know what.

      Outside, I became even more dismayed. There in front of the house was the work team, already hitched to the big sled. Whatever it was we were going to do wasn’t going to be a short, quick, little job. I could tell. We never hitched up this sled unless we were going to haul a big load.

      Pa was already up on the seat, reins in hand. I reluctantly climbed up beside him. The cold was already biting at me. I wasn’t happy. When I was on, Pa pulled the sled around the house and stopped in front of the woodshed. He got off and I followed. “I think we’ll put on the high sideboards,” he said. “Here, help me.” The high sideboards! It had been a bigger job than I wanted to do with just the low sideboards on, but whatever it was we were going to do would be a lot bigger with the high sideboards on.

      After we had exchanged the sideboards, Pa went into the woodshed and came out with an armload of wood—the wood I’d spent all summer hauling down from the mountain, and then all fall sawing into blocks and splitting. What was he doing? Finally I said something. “Pa,” I asked, “what are you doing?” You been by the Widow Jensen’s lately?” he asked. The Widow Jensen lived about two miles down the road. Her husband had died a year or so before and left her with three children, the oldest being eight. Sure, I’d been by, but so what? “Yeah,” I said, “Why?” “I rode by just today,” Pa said. “Little Jakey was out digging around in the woodpile trying to find a few chips. They’re out of wood, Matt.”

      That was all he said and then he turned and went back into the woodshed for another armload of wood. I followed him. We loaded the sled so high that I began to wonder if the horses would be able to pull it. Finally, Pa called a halt to our loading, then we went to the smoke house and Pa took down a big ham and a side of bacon. He handed them to me and told me to put them in the sled and wait.

      When he returned he was carrying a sack of flour over his right shoulder and a smaller sack of something in his left hand. “What’s in the little sack?” I asked. “Shoes. They’re out of shoes. Little Jakey just had gunnysacks wrapped around his feet when he was out in the woodpile this morning. I got the children a little candy too. It just wouldn’t be Christmas without a little candy.”

      We rode the two miles to Widow Jensen’s pretty much in silence. I tried to think through what Pa was doing. We didn’t have much by worldly standards. Of course, we did have a big woodpile, though most of what was left now was still in the form of logs that I would have to saw into blocks and split before we could use it. We also had meat and flour, so we could spare that, but I knew we didn’t have any money, so why was Pa buying them shoes and candy?

      Really, why was he doing any of this? Widow Jensen had closer neighbors than us; it shouldn’t have been our concern. We came in from the blind side of the Jensen house and unloaded the wood as quietly as possible, and then we took the meat and flour and shoes to the door. We knocked. The door opened a crack and a timid voice said, “Who is it?” “Lucas Miles, Ma’am, and my son, Matt. Could we come in for a bit?”

      Widow Jensen opened the door and let us in. She had a blanket wrapped around her shoulders. The children were wrapped in another and were sitting in front of the fireplace by a very small fire that hardly gave off any heat at all. Widow Jensen fumbled with a match and finally lit the lamp. “We brought you a few things, Ma’am,” Pa said and set down the sack of flour. I put the meat on the table. Then Pa handed her the sack that had the shoes in it.

      She opened it hesitantly and took the shoes out one pair at a time. There was a pair for her and one for each of the children—sturdy shoes, the best, shoes that would last. I watched her carefully. She bit her lower lip to keep it from trembling and then tears filled her eyes and started running down her cheeks. She looked up at Pa like she wanted to say something, but it wouldn’t come out.

      “We brought a load of wood too, Ma’am,” Pa said. He turned to me and said, “Matt, go bring in enough to last awhile. Let’s get that fire up to size and heat this place up.” I wasn’t the same person when I went back out to bring in the wood. I had a big lump in my throat and as much as I hate to admit it, there were tears in my eyes too.

      In my mind I kept seeing those three kids huddled around the fireplace and their mother standing there with tears running down her cheeks with so much gratitude in her heart that she couldn’t speak. My heart swelled within me and a joy that I’d never known before, filled my soul. I had given at Christmas many times before, but never when it had made so much difference. I could see we were literally saving the lives of these people.

      I soon had the fire blazing and everyone’s spirits soared. The kids started giggling when Pa handed them each a piece of candy and Widow Jensen looked on with a smile that probably hadn’t crossed her face for a long time. She finally turned to us. “God bless you,” she said. “I know the Lord has sent you. The children and I have been praying that he would send one of his angels to spare us.”

      In spite of myself, the lump returned to my throat and the tears welled up in my eyes again. I’d never thought of Pa in those exact terms before, but after Widow Jensen mentioned it I could see that it was probably true. I was sure that a better man than Pa had never walked the earth. I started remembering all the times he had gone out of his way for Ma and me, and many others. The list seemed endless as I thought on it.

      Pa insisted that everyone try on the shoes before we left. I was amazed when they all fit and I wondered how he had known what sizes to get. Then I guessed that if he was on an errand for the Lord that the Lord would make sure he got the right sizes.

      Tears were running down Widow Jensen’s face again when we stood up to leave. Pa took each of the kids in his big arms and gave them a hug. They clung to him and didn’t want us to go. I could see that they missed their Pa, and I was glad that I still had mine.

      At the door Pa turned to Widow Jensen and said, “The Mrs. wanted me to invite you and the children over for Christmas dinner tomorrow. The turkey will be more than the three of us can eat, and a man can get cantankerous if he has to eat turkey for too many meals. We’ll be by to get you about eleven. It’ll be nice to have some little ones around again. Matt, here, hasn’t been little for quite a spell.” I was the youngest. My two brothers and two sisters had all married and had moved away. Widow Jensen nodded and said, “Thank you, Brother Miles. I don’t have to say, “‘May the Lord bless you,’ I know for certain that He will.”

      Out on the sled I felt a warmth that came from deep within and I didn’t even notice the cold. When we had gone a ways, Pa turned to me and said, “Matt, I want you to know something. Your ma and me have been tucking a little money away here and there all year so we could buy that rifle for you, but we didn’t have quite enough.

      Then yesterday a man who owed me a little money from years back came by to make things square. Your ma and me were real excited, thinking that now we could get you that rifle, and I started into town this morning to do just that. But on the way I saw little Jakey out scratching in the woodpile with his feet wrapped in those gunnysacks and I knew what I had to do. Son, I spent the money for shoes and a little candy for those children. I hope you understand.”

      I understood, and my eyes became wet with tears again. I understood very well, and I was so glad Pa had done it. Now the rifle seemed very low on my list of priorities. Pa had given me a lot more. He had given me the look on Widow Jensen’s face and the radiant smiles of her three children.

      For the rest of my life, whenever I saw any of the Jensens, or split a block of wood, I remembered, and remembering brought back that same joy I felt riding home beside Pa that night. Pa had given me much more than a rifle that night; he had given me the best Christmas of my life.

      God bless you! Hope you have a Merry Christmas!

      Author Unknown

    12. Anonymous says:

      I am listening or the hangman and quayle interview. According to hangman. A s his inside source, we almost got nuked by a false flag two days ago and was almost thrown into SHTF..

      Notice to new preppers coming on this site.. disregard any comments made or directed at me from women posting on top site and Continue prepping..they are now extinct in the next few years, worry about yourself, and quit trying to change them or Convince them. The established d women on this site, listen to them..after what I just heard from hangman, I recommend that everyone seal up their bug our bags with heat wraps or lost of strong plastic raps to make sure that you don’t loose your preps..if your all recall my entire bug out bag was rendered useless out of my own ignorance and stupidity thinking that my bag didn’t leak..its took me 3 weeks to get done what Genius recommended..if your don’t have a chemical gas mask then you need to get one, I am also working on that since I don’t have one.

      Aka,

      HCKS.

      Genius, internationally known, located respected..

    13. The Second American Civil War is inevitable, and imminent. While it may sound cliche’, the truth is that there is only one thing that the tyrants understand, and that one thing is overwhelming force.

      While I fully understand and appreciate the role of American law enforcement agencies, I lack faith in their ability to reconcile their Oath to protect and defend the Constitution with their desire to uphold law and order. There are simply too many instances of unlawful and unconstitutional behavior on the part of LEO’s for me to believe that the country will be able to step back from the brink of the abyss. With the advent of the internet, every viral video that is released which shows blatant misconduct, unlawful killings, and a total disregard for the People’s Constitutional Rights is another nail in the coffin for the American Republic.

      If the next Civil War happens, I believe it will coincide with a grid-down collapse, which will likely be by design. We won’t have the luxury of sitting here safely behind our computer monitors while we vent out our frustrations and anxieties. There will be absolute chaos and America will burn.

      Okay, I’m done now. Happy Holidays to my fellow SHTFners!

    14. Anonymous says:

      I am certain that it’s going to happen again. Now way we are making it to the election without the cabal, doing us in..in October 2013, they almost got us with and EMP..

      TWO DAYS AGO, THEY ALMOST GTI US AGAIN THIS TIME WITH A NUKE..

      1 am listening or the hangman and quayle interview RIGHT NOW. According to hangman. A s his inside source, we almost got nuked by a false flag two days ago and was almost thrown into SHTF..

      Notice to new preppers coming on this site.. disregard any comments made or directed at me from women posting on top site and Continue prepping..they are now extinct in the next few years, worry about yourself, and quit trying to change them or Convince them. The established d women on this site, listen to them..after what I just heard from hangman, I recommend that everyone seal up their bug our bags with heat wraps or lost of strong plastic raps to make sure that you don’t loose your preps..if your all recall my entire bug out bag was rendered useless out of my own ignorance and stupidity thinking that my bag didn’t leak..its took me 3 weeks to get done what Genius recommended..if your don’t have a chemical gas mask then you need to get one, I am also working on that since I don’t have one.

      Aka,

      HCKS.

      Genius, internationally known, located respected..

      • slingshot says:

        HCKS

        Before you buy a gas mask. Better read up on how to use and maintain the equipment. How it affects your breathing.

        • Night Breaker says:

          Also HCKS ,
          A gas mask is only part of the preparedness posture ,you also need decontamination facilities and access to atropine ( dangerous if not trained in its administration and it’s only a battlefield stopgap ) with medical evac your mask is going to be of limited use in a CBRN environment , your better off using the direction of the prevailing wind and egress speed . Nerve Agents are not easy to deal with that is why they are used as denial of area weapons .
          Save you money for other items , the only use is when being faced with crowd control agents and that is another whole thing to deal with CS gas tends to burn your skin also , some of this stuff is also designed to induce vomiting . Very unpleasant . .

          Merry Christmas every one , spend time with your family and loved ones today , for tomorrow who knows what may come our way .

          Semper Fi

    15. 2isone says:

      Grateful that so far this holiday season, no huge terrorist event has manifested. Planet X hasn’t risen over the horizon. The golden horde is not on the move… yet.
      Giving out copies of Ted Koppel’ Lights Out book for presents, along with Mountain House bug out food buckets. Singing tonight in an old town church on a square at midnight. Got to solve a mystery and do a good deed today. A little silver is coming my way before New Year’s.
      Yesterday, my husband and I sat on the back terrace of a restaurant in balmy weather and watched the jets paint x’s on the sky. A whale not native to the Gulf of Mexico washed up on a Galveston beach this week. I think you would have to be a fool not to know something is terribly wrong and something big is coming. But, for today- the things that make life worth living, are worthy of focus.

      • Mike in VA says:

        2isone

        You and your husband seem to be doing exactly what you should. Enjoy every moment because you don’t know how many moments you have. Thank you for posting that and have a Merry Christmas.

    16. Anonymous says:

      I see this happening by the end of 2016..

      Aka,

      HCKS.

    17. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

      I see this happening by the end of 2016..Ed Dames is right, it enevitable..

      Aka,

      HCKS..

      • Ranger_Ric says:

        I’m sorry but Ed Dames has been wrong about -everything- I have heard him say since I first heard him ten or more years ago.

        Beware of false prophets. Secondly, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    18. 1vet says:

      The erosion of our freedoms has come on very slowly:

      “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”

      ― Adolf Hitler

      Sound familiar???

      The betrayal of America has slowly been implemented and only in the last seven years has it been balls out, broad daylight ugly, day in and day out. Which must mean we’re pretty far down the beating trail???

      The ONLY thing keeping the soup Nazis off our back is the second amendment. I don’t see house to house confiscation because they would run out of storm troopers. But one day they may join a global government, outlaw firearms, and just get you when they catch you with one and then go raid go your home, I don’t know???

      The only way to shut that down would through the assistance of your neighbors…

      That would have to be a line in the sand for us…
      Alone we could be taken one by one…

      Then we have-

      “The people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders. All you have to do is tell them that they are in danger of being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
      Hermann Goering

      Does this sound familiar???

      No wonder America is arming to the teeth. For those of us not caught up in the usual sheeple distractions it’s not all that difficult to see…

    19. Braveheart1776 says:

      Ky Mom, beautiful story and the true meaning of Christmas. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

    20. This version of the Bundy Ranch incident is not one I have heard before, and logically it makes more sense than the MSM version… about why the feds backed down. I will look into this.

      • USMC1982 says:

        I have talked to men that were there. This video was the President of Oath keepers, his version is true. Go to the Oath keepers web site and watch the whole video, there is more to the story..

      • Mike in VA says:

        Rebecca

        It is true. I am a member of Oath Keepers. Before it was all over with there were more Ex special Ops snipers on our side than the government had on theirs. That I was told by someone who was there. It could have easily been the spark that started a civil war. There were idiots on both sides that could have accidentally pulled the trigger and then there you go it begins.
        Thank the lord it did not happen. At least we have a little more time.

    21. 21Bravo says:

      Has anyone ever read the book CWII??? We are at the 9.5/10 mark. While I don’t agree with a couple parts of the senario laid out in the book was written in 1995 and is a little dated. Something will trigger CWII, as we are that close. My take is a terrorist attack were obama outlaws by EO assault weapons…. DHS will show up but not LE or the majority of the military…… The rest at what will happen is anyone guess at this point….

      • 21Bravo,
        Yes, I’ve read Civil War II. It’s a good book by a former military guy. It’s a must read for anyone in the prepper movement, who sees what lays ahead.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        21Bravo, I have read and still have an original copy of that book. Most of the information in it is still pertinent. I agree with your false-flag scenario about ‘assault weapons’ being outlawed by EO. Obama has a ‘pen and phone’, and is reportedly getting a whole series of EOs ready concerning gun control. War is coming and it won’t be nice. On DHS, they don’t even have the same number of people as local, county, state, and federal LE COMBINED to take us on, so they’ll have no choice but to get foreign troops in here for backup. That’s when it has to be GAME ON.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          All they have to do is hit a few houses close by each other with a squad each. Anyone stepping outside, especially armed gets shot. I don’t see the whole block stepping outside to help. Do you? Maybe even one squad for four or five houses in an area would be enough, especially if they’re ruthless enough to really scare people. The mind control the military can use is powerful enough to get almost anyone in the military to cooperate.

          I KNOW a lot of us will fight. I couldn’t live in the country they intend to turn America into anyway. Most people I suspect though would try to “hang in there until things get better” – leaving Obama and Co. plenty of time round up and exterminate anyone they choose. EVERYONE they choose. The Founder’s words about a “standing armies” were patently true, and we should have seen that from the beginning. It’s fat too late now.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          All they have to do is hit a few houses close by each other with a squad each. Anyone stepping outside, especially armed gets shot. I don’t see the whole block stepping outside to help. Do you? Maybe even one squad for four or five houses in an area would be enough, especially if they’re ruthless enough to really scare people. The mind control the military can use is powerful enough to get almost anyone in the military to cooperate.

          I KNOW a lot of us will fight. I couldn’t live in the country they intend to turn America into anyway. Most people I suspect though would try to “hang in there until things get better” – leaving Obama and Co. plenty of time round up and exterminate anyone they choose. EVERYONE they choose. The Founder’s words about a “standing armies” were patently true, and we should have seen that from the beginning. It’s far too late now.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          All they have to do is hit a few houses close by each other with a squad each. Anyone stepping outside, especially armed gets shot. I don’t see the whole block stepping outside to help. Do you? Maybe even one squad for four or five houses in an area would be enough, especially if they’re ruthless enough to really scare people. The mind control the military can use is powerful enough to get almost anyone in the military to cooperate.

          I KNOW a lot of us will fight. I couldn’t live in the country they intend to turn America into anyway. Most people I suspect though would try to “hang in there until things get better” – leaving Obama and Co. plenty of time round up and exterminate anyone they choose. EVERYONE they choose. The Founder’s words about a “standing armies” were patently true, and we should have seen that from the beginning. It’s far too late now.

    22. Heartless says:

      My answers to the final questions:

      Will Americans still defend their rights today?

      Some will. I will.

      How many more abuses will the people take before they fight back?

      For many, if not most, an unlimited number. Again, for some, for me – not many more.

      Will those in power back off if people refuse to cooperate any longer?

      No. They are all convinced that they’ve got the upper hand. Same as King George did. They feel that the overwhelming force they can array against the citizenry is more than sufficient. In truth, they might be right. In hope, I feel they are wrong. Just as was King George.

      Or will this country roll over and descend into full-blown tyranny like so many others before it?

      Sure looks like it. It is already in many ways there already. Again, the time is nearing rapidly for the crux-point to be reached.

      • Thor says:

        Hey heartless, how are you, I guess Ken felt intimidated by my knowledge so he banned me. He also refused to put posts with attachments that were spot on and informative for everyone’s benifit . I believe he is nothing but a sad old man.

        Merry Christmas

        PS. Tell other people I am on this site and he will band you too. He is very insecure.

    23. Lone wolverine says:

      When you look into anything. You see how manipulated we are. Go watch a ball game or some porn. That’s what they want. The opiat of the incompetent .extreme house cleaning is needed.

    24. Equorial says:

      Y’all have a Merry Christmas from me and mine and the cats!

    25. Edward Huguenin says:

      When the SHTF I would hate to be the 1%! You can run but you cannot hide.

    26. Mike in VA says:

      I am at work now so I must say to All

      Merry Christmas!!!!

      • still playing in the mud says:

        Mary Christmas to you and yours. What’s up with your AJ making my NC concealed permit illegal in Va. Guess I will have to take my coat off at the state line.

        • Mike in VA says:

          I know. Worthless politicians.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          There was SUPPOSED to be much more separation between the States than there is now. It’s much easier to take over if it’s all one thing, apparently, so that’s what the Feds have been aiming at for decades at least. It’s this “changeover” to the Federal Government being SUPERIOR in authority to all of the States – exactly the opposite of the designs of the Founders – that’s a big part of the problem. It’s also going to be a BIG fix, especially considering all the new agencies, NONE OF WHICH are answerable to us!

    27. Warchild Dammit! says:

      Civil war,no,like before a war of succession,just want the govt. as it stands out of our lives,have no desire to take it over.I still believe long term this country will break up,stay together a bit for mutual self defense but that about it,other wise smaller/separate countries,may be for the best.

    28. 11011110000 says:

      It’s the people vs corporate fascism! Corporate fascism controls our government……our country, so we must work top down if we want to survive.

      We must do this as individuals. They want to divide us into groups, the left vs. right, but we must be leaders and do what we know is right….as individuals, and take out the 1%.

      True patriotism doesn’t require others to follow, it only requires a person to do what is morally right.

      Be morally right and follow your heart. Don’t wait and act now.

      Merry Christmas!

      Best of luck in the new year.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        “It’s the people versus corporate fascism…”

        That’s a HUGE part of it, for sure! The “elites” have been bleeding the States for a LONG time now with endless taxes, fines, laws that conflict with ours, agencies who supposedly have authority in the States which the States can do nothing about… Now with Obama, there are the endless “Executive Orders” which supposedly have the force of law, meaning that for all intents and purposes they ARE laws. But the President CANNOT WRITE OR PASS A LAW HIMSELF! He hasn’t the authority save by the illegitimate one of usurpation. It’s how he got the Presidency in the first place; it worked once, it’ll work again he figures.

    29. Oliver K. Manuel says:

      Nations were united on 24 OCT 1945 in response to unreported events at Konan, Korea that changed the course of world history in AUG-SEPT 1945.

      • Oliver K. Manuel says:

        Alphabetical research agencies – DOE, EPA, NASA, NOAA, NSF, etc. – were designed and started after WWII to generate 97% worldwide consensus “scientific evidence” in favor of any propaganda Stalin wanted to promote in order to maintain control of the world after nations were united on 24 OCT 1945:

        https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10640850/STALINS_SCIENCE.pdf

        That is why George Orwell moved from London to the Scittish Isle of Jura in 1946 to start writing his futuristic novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four

    30. Overthecliff says:

      Fighting the military and police is the wrong thing to do. The way to fight the government is to convince the government employees to not do their jobs. When they are convinced that their best interests are served when they don’t oppress their fellow citizens , we havre won.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        Yep – and what do we do when the cops and military are convinced that when speaking to “civilians” (which olive ARE), their word is Law!? Obama can (illegally) take away ALL of our rights with two little words: “National Emergency”. Whether we see it or not, whether we agree or not. That STILL doesn’t make it legal of course; but most Americans don’t know that, and too many would cooperate.

    31. Thor says:

      Let us not forget the past so we are not condemned to repeat it!!!

      http://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/

      Merry Christmas everyone

    32. ThreeToesKnows says:

      The military and the LEO’so are the only thing that can stop a Civil War/revolution.

      If they do not act immediately upon their oaths to defend the constitution again domestic threats, then all obedience to the rule of law will be over.

    33. Anonymous says:

      Merry Christmas

      It’s a target rich environment
      Choose wisely

    34. Enemy of the State says:

      It’s a target rich environment
      Choose wisely

      Merry Christmas

    35. charlie2dogs says:

      why isnt our military arresting people for treason in the govt

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        It’s my guess that EXACTLY the right people are under threat or bribed; that, together with conditioning/mind control and the examples of punishment for those resisting the “government” in the person of Obama are enough to keep them immobile. As usual, no one wants to move first, and they’re all being watched so closely they’d have a really impossible time acting by surprise.

    36. Darkwing says:

      Bundy Ranch: Bundy was wrong, he owed millions to the government for grazing rights. The BLM was wrong and over reacted.

    37. nobody cares says:

      We lost when we got our first president

    38. Proftel says:

      Merry Christmas and Peace on Earth (to men who are armed)!
      53 years old, Brazilian, Geographer, former military, sympathize with you.
      Two years ago I wrote in ZeroHedge that my biggest fear was a Civil War in the US, I was ridiculed.
      I believe that today would take me seriously.
      The thing is about the same as in Ukraine.
      Will not be stone unturned.
      In the end the problem comes down to trust in the fight and who put in front when things calm down.
      2016 will be an interesting year, very interesting …
      🙂

    39. Rockmanr says:

      Obama does not trust American citizens with firearms while he does trust Saracens to enter the country when they ob5viously include terrorists who will kill Americans here in the US That picture says it all folks. Why does he fear citizens with firearms unless he intends to crush the citizens and does not want them to fight back. Now is the time to find trusted people to work with in times of crisis for survival. Individuals are nice but easy to over come by outlaws of all types

    40. Proftel says:

      Rockmanr:
      Its President is playing with fire not only internally.
      Stick your finger in the eye of Russian and Chinese is not good policy.
      Any analyst or reader with half a brain that reads Saker, Paul Craig Roberts, ZeroHedge among others are afraid of what lies ahead …

    41. My Brothers and sister we need need to protect, defend our birthright. The Father’s Laws and 9th Amendent trumps all! I will not be oppressed no more, I am aware of their treason and rebellion!

    42. Son of the Republic says:

      WE the people hang together or hang separately!
      9th Amendemant!

    43. anon says:

      In related news:

      1) Keiser Report: Why Not People’s Quantitative Easing? (Winter Why Nots, E853)
      http://sgtreport.com/2015/12/keiser-report-why-not-peoples-quantitative-easing-winter-why-nots-e853/

      2) X22 Report: Central Bankers Can’t Stop The Economic Collapse Instead They Will Cover It Up
      http://sgtreport.com/2015/01/x22-report-central-bankers-cant-stop-the-economic-collapse-instead-they-will-cover-it-up/#comment-914561

      Read all comments, click on all links, and view, listen to ALL content. The answers are all there.

    44. I don’t think the country is close to civil war. I don’t believe divisions in this country are close to as bad as they have ever been. During the war in Vietnam and, of course, our Civil War, people were much more divided. Divisions between the North and South are cultural and much deeper than slavery and civil rights and were probably worse after the Civil War than before.

      Our military, spys, and even state department are routinely out of step with the political rhetoric of a president. In fact, a president’s actions are often out of sync with his words.

      The appearance of unrest is a consequence of the media trying to create stories out of events. Ferguson pales next to Watts. Kent State was more out of hand than the entire 99% ‘movement’. The root cause of revolution is economic distress. The fact is that our safety nets are made of velour and our poorest have healthcare, smart phones, and cable tv.

      There is no doubt that there is a broad spectrum of political values in this country, but, in the vastness of the world and the vastness of time, that broadness exists in a very tiny part of humanity’s values and beliefs. The fact is that we are in an election cycle — as we are every four years — and words and ideas, not guns and knives, are going to determine who will be the next president. Everyone will take a moment out of their personal revolution to cast a vote for the guy who they believe will do the better job. Very few will agree 100% with their guy and most of the candidate agree more with each other than their supporters believe possible and a lot of beliefs will be left at the front step of the white house, but the election will happen and we will enjoy a peaceful transition of government that does not happen in nations on the verge of civil war.

      If you want to nip this revolution in the bud, you need to fix our schools. Kids need to learn to read critically. They need to spend more time in history classes than spanish classes. They need to read important first hand accounts of history rather than third hand analysis. That’s the basis of the perspective that will help Americans emerge from this Era of Individuality which has permitted excessive abuse of rights without the restraint of accompanying responsibilities.

      Merry Christmas.

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        THIS is a “fix” that may help the coming generation – in reading ingredients lists in recipes because that’s about all a dictatorship will allow them. It won’t do squat for now, however, and by the time our more-literate next generation of kids is ready to assume power in this country it will have been a dictatorship for years.

        • Ian MacLeod says:

          I meant to add that “the next president” will likely be the property of the same “elites” who own this one… AND so will the Congress, and the alphabet agencies, AND… on and on and on. It appears that most of ALL of those see us as “the disposable populace”… the ones in the way, of no particular use.

    45. Kevin Noir says:

      “Is America On the Brink of a Civil War?”

      From your mouth to God’s ear. The bloodletting can’t come soon enough. Socialist corruption has become so entrenched in our nation’s fabric, there is only one way to cleanse it.

    46. Miranda says:

      Sadly there will be no revolution taking place in the USA. I say this because the people of this nation today, are not the same people of the days of the revolution. The people of today are somnulent zombies that have been drugged into total lethargy by drugs, GMO’s and the Fluoride in the water that acts like Prozac on the population.

      The will to fight is NOT there. It is the will to obey that is now there. America is a lost nation of zombies.

    47. Neal says:

      The biggest threat to America these days is the “True Believers” in the system because they deny the situation can be fixed any other way than the ways that have failed utterly so far…Their answer is “Wait for it….Wait, it takes time for this to work….Vote in the right people….Congress can impeach…..” and see where it has gotten us; complete loss of rights and liberties.

      They are all privileges now that they are taking away. as we speak.

      And where is the courage and bravery and true patriots that believe in the Constitution and its limits, the gun owners and free speech people?

      All doing what the True Believers want them to do…NOTHING but wait for the shackles and bonds and train rides to the death camps happen.

      The True Believers are the Judas goats of our age, the unwitting Quislings who will get us all killed. the Communists who are destroying us are KNOWN, the quisling true believers, are the ones we do not see right in front of our eyes and deny exist.

    48. Edwin : O'Keefe says:

      We the people ARE the republic, we are the constitution, we are the answer to tyranny. D.C. is nothing more thing the polluted state of global corruption.
      They are the criminals that would enslave you, and kill you. Stand your ground that they may quake in their boots, and sleep not. Technology is trumped by
      the righteous souls of the American people.. Semper Fi

      • Ian MacLeod says:

        “D.C. is nothing more thing the polluted state of global corruption.”

        Actually it’s the incorporated property of the Rothschilds and the Central Banking System, given over in payment for the loans to fight the “Civil War” they started for this purpose. D.C. is 3 corporations, and Obama is a C.E.O.

        The changes made, illegally, since that time are mostly meant to hide the truth. It’s worked quite well, too. The American people could move the Capital back to Philly where it belongs, hold elections and THAT would be the legitimate government. First though, we’d damned well better impeach the Usurper. Has anyone ever put together a list of particulars by way of charges against Obama? I’ve seen some LONG partial lists… Something else we could do is to remove the politicians throughout the country who are clearly enablers for the sabotage now emanating from D.C. – governors and others. Those happily attacking the Second Amendment any way they can, mostly illegally, would make a fine addition to that list! The people doing that consist of only two types: those who want us disarmed and unable to defend ourselves against an armed takeover under a false “emergency” concocted by the D.C. “government” and their enablers for the purpose,
        and the unwittingly suicidal fools who believe all the anti-gun rhetoric and false statistics. In every single case I’ve ever read about, wherever the populace is armed, it tends to be a very polite and relatively MUCH more peaceful and polite society!

    49. Steven says:

      As an outsider looking in, one thought comes very obvious to me… any resistance/threat to the DC government will most likely attract the interest of the other city states, ie, London. Just as they did during your war of independence. They would not abide the freedoms the Bill of Rights and the Constitution allows. A free thinking population to those people can not be tolerated, least the ideals in those documents spreads to the rest of the world…

     
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