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    Here He Goes Again: Obama Says It’s “Insane” For Millions of Americans On Watchlists To Own Guns

    Mac Slavo
    December 5th, 2015
    SHTFplan.com
    Comments (318)
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    constitution-burnsBack in 2011 we facetiously noted that innocent Americans were being added to terror watchlists and No-Fly lists at an alarming pace. So much so, we opined, that by 2020 every person in the United States would be deemed a terrorist and that the entire world would be on a government watchlist by 2025.

    We were kind of joking… but only kind of, because as we highlighted last year, the President approved a substantial expansion of the lists wherein concrete facts are no longer necessary for law enforcement and intelligence agencies to flag pretty much anyone, for any reason as being suspected of terrorism. In fact, the new rules set forth by the administration make it possible for one to be added to a watchlist for being suspected of being a suspected terrorist. Yes, it is absolutely ridiculous on its face.

    As we warned, the anti-gun left and especially the Obama administration is always looking for new and innovative ways to disarm American citizens. Whether it be high taxation of ammunition, identification requirements for purchasing ammo as in California (but no worries, because you can still vote without an I.D.), or outright bans on the importation of firearms and related accessories, there is an overt and sustained push to overhaul (i.e. eliminate) the rights protected by the Second Amendment.

    In what can only be described as nothing short of a full-court Obama press against America’s gun owners, in his weekly Saturday address to the nation the President has now taken his disarmament agenda to the next level, suggesting that it is “insane” for anyone on a watch list to own a gun.

    “This tragedy reminds us of our obligation to do everything in our power, together, to keep our communities safe,” Obama said in his address. “We know that the killers in San Bernardino used military-style assault weapons — weapons of war — to kill as many people as they could. It’s another tragic reminder that here in America it’s way too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun.”

    Obama, who has said that failing to pass comprehensive gun reform is the greatest frustration” of his time in office, said it was ridiculous that people on a no-fly list in the United States could legally purchase a gun.

    “That is insane. If you’re too dangerous to board a plane, you’re too dangerous, by definition, to buy a gun. And so I’m calling on Congress to close this loophole, now,” he said. “We may not be able to prevent every tragedy, but — at a bare minimum — we shouldn’t be making it so easy for potential terrorists or criminals to get their hands on a gun that they could use against Americans.”

    Keep in mind that, as Senator Rand Paul warned on the Senate floor, Someone Who Has Guns, Ammunition, 7 Days of Food can be considered a potential terrorist. Moreover, a recent report highlights scores of other reasons for why someone may qualify as a domestic terrorist:

    So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist?  Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:

    • Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
    • Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
    • Survivalist literature (fictional books such as “Patriots” and “One Second After” are mentioned by name)
    • Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
    • Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
    • Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
    • Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
    • Homeschooling
    • Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
    • Belief in a New World Order conspiracy

    And once you’re on the list, there is pretty much no way to get off because the government, citing national security reasons, doesn’t have to release any details and the burden of proof falls on the individual who has been identified as a terrorist, potential terrorist, or someone suspected of being a suspected terrorist.

    Those secretly blacklisted have no real path to challenge their status, states a new report, thus indefinitely restricting those listed from travel or simply getting a job.

    Hundreds of thousands of Americans and foreigners languish in the watchlist system, considered “known or suspected terrorists” based on secret rules and evidence that are basically impenetrable should the average suspect attempt to contest them, says a new report by the ACLU that highlights these challenges.

    Source: The Daily Sheeple

    Obama’s latest proposal would mean that not only would those added to watch lists without cause or due process be restricted from flying or have a near impossible time getting a job, they would not be allowed to purchase firearms. The next step, of course, would be the disarmament of those who already own guns.

    Also Read:

    Do You Qualify as a Domestic Terrorist?

    Terrorist Watch List May Exceed US Population by 2019, World Population by 2023

    ‘Terror’ Watchlists Erasing American Rights: Feds to “Revoke Passports Without Charge or Trial”

    Obama Approves Substantial Expansion of Terrorist Watch Lists: “Concrete Facts Are Not Necessary”

    Shock Report About Secret Obama Treaty: “Unlimited Migration From Mexico… Gun Import Bans… Ammunition Bans”

    Paul to Congress: “Someone Who Has Guns, Ammunition, 7 Days of Food” Can Be Considered a Potential Terrorist

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    1. eppe says:

      Color me insane, I just want to protect my family…

      I know, crazy, right….

      All be well…

      • marie j says:

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        • skeptic says:

          HCKS Is that you?

        • sixpack says:

          NO, WHAT IS “INSANE” IS THAT MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE ON A WATCH LIST TO BEGIN WITH! Fuck that SOB.

          • laeagle says:

            SP, Eppe, All,

            You will make it on the watch list depending on which side of the political spectrum you are on. If TPTB feel they can control you or that you are a supporter they may leave you alone but most likely you are on some kind of list. They are likely profiling every living and yet to be born American. Am I paranoid? Can this be done? I believe it has already been done in an attempt to find and create new markets. It is not difficult to apply the same analytical techniques for social and political purposes. This country has (a) monstor(s) lurking in the shadows and the only thing that is keeping it at bay is the US Constitution. Once the Constitution has been neutralized it will be a simple thing to write executive orders or create legislation to force you to do anything TPTB want.

          • KY Mom says:

            NEW DATE THAT WILL LIVE IN INFAMY: DECEMBER 11

            “That’s the day that a catch-all “omnibus” budget bill is scheduled to be voted on in the House.”

            In that bill there is expected to be full funding of President Obama’s refugee resettlement program, which costs $1.2 billion annually to bring in 85,000 refugees from more than two dozen countries around the world.

            About half of them will come from countries with active jihadist movements including 10,000 from Syria, about 8,000 from Somalia, nearly 10,000 from Iraq, and several thousand more from Burma, Uzbekistan, Bosnia, Democratic Republic of Congo and Afghanistan.

            The United Nations will choose which refugees from what countries get to come to America at the U.S. taxpayer’s expense.

            The nationalities of these refugees will be concealed in most cases until AFTER they arrive in the more than 180 cities and towns across the U.S.”

            “The House passed a bill, the America SAFE Act, by a lopsided vote two weeks ago that calls for a “pause” in the resettlements until the White House can provide certain assurances that the refugees have been properly vetted.”

            “But that’s a smokescreen as the SAFE Act won’t stop a single refugee from arriving in any of those 180 cities…”

            “Not only will Obama be allowed to bring in the 85,000 refugees he has announced on top of current record immigration levels, but this will include at least 10,000 refugees from Syria who will subsequently be able to bring in their foreign relatives, Sessions said.”

            “ALL REFUGEES ARE ELIGIBLE FOR LIFETIME GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE and can draw funds from Social Security and Medicare at Americans’ expense.

            More than 90 percent of recent Middle Eastern refugees are on food stamps, Sessions said. As soon as they arrive on U.S. soil they are placed on a fast-track to becoming full, voting citizens.”

            WND dot com

            • This is all being done under the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 pushed bt JFK and signed into law by LBJ. Time to Repeal. Even worse, NY Times wants Congress to ban assault rifles for citizens but terrorists won’t ask their permission. The Big push for militarism of police forces has been slowed due to protesting and excessive use of force.. but I imagine will quietly reinststed. The buildup is designed to control citizens right to protest and that means you not blacks in Missouri. Preppers are considered more dangerous.

              • Them Guys says:

                Read what Sen Jacob Javitz’s Top us senate Aide guy said about the “pen Vs Sword” argument IE: which really Works?

                “The American people have been easily ruled through our propaganda that the pen is mightier than the sword. We virtually get away with murder, and all the goy do is to talk about it, which is ineffective since we, the masters of propaganda, always publish a contradicting account. If the Aryan would review history and apply those lessons of the past, then the pen will be thrown down in disgust and the sword wielded in the heat of passion. (A recurrence to history would edify our minds and show us that the European countries solved their Jewish problem only by use of force.) Thus far, we have escaped the sword, when the only reprisal is some periodical of no repute, or some pamphlet with limited circulation. Their pen is no match for ours, but our constant fear is that they may open their eyes and learn that no change was ever brought about with a pen. History has been written in blood, not with ink. No letter, editorial or book has ever rallied the people or stopped tyranny. We understand this principle and are continually propagandizing the people to write letters to the President, to Congress and to their local media. We are safe to continually exploit, intimidate and disenfranchise the white American as long as they are preoccupied with the illusion of educating the masses through printed material. Woe be unto us if they ever see the futility of it, lay down the pen and employ the sword.” – Harold Wallace Rosenthal

                • Genius says:

                  Excellent post them guys! Too bad most will not pull their head out of their ass long enough to look into it. You could have a library of proof and all the sheep will see is the narrow tunnel called their rectum…

              • Lone wolverine says:

                Pushed by Jacob the wonderful Jew javits. To devide and rule. Just as the Great men of history warned us of . Read what Washington Jefferson and Franklin said about the oos. And Grant and Sherman . About who the carpet baggers were and what they did . And wake up.

              • sixpack says:

                The immigration reforms Kennedy called for went well beyond their original intent and produced many unforeseen consequences. I firmly believe those “consequences” were not so “unintended”. I think much of what seems to be unpredictable to us common folk, may have been planned all along by TPTB. Everyone knows LBJ was the “establishment Yes Man” who was waiting in the wings to take over, even before JFK’s body was cold.

                There’s also no evidence suggesting that the version of the Immigration Act that LBJ signed, was anywhere near what JFK advocated for, and would’ve signed.

                It was indeed done after he was dead.

          • Hank says:

            I say get rid of government all together. The people that are in government don’t care about the people, they only care for themselves and their friends. The people can take care of themselves. The government only starts wars and separates people from their loved ones. People need to get off their asses and fend for themselves like in the old days. Start a business and stop paying federal income tax. It’s Unconstitutional anyway, It’s indentured servitude people, so stop paying your hard earned money to a bunch of assholes that get kick backs from other countries governments and foreign businesses. The Obamas received $1.3 million dollars in gifts from Iran last year. In case you did not know Iran is our enemy.

          • BigB says:

            Why is it that I, free, white and over 21 must wait ten days for a gun because I might kill some one in a fit of anger but a 16 year old girl can get an abortion the same morning she walks in off the street no questions asked?

            BigB

            • Wilson says:

              @BigB,

              “the same morning she walks in off the street without parental consent, without being required to listen to her baby’s heartbeat, without seeing a 3D image of her baby, without seeing HD pictures of what a baby looks like as it develops in her mothers womb, without any questions asked?” There, fixed it.

              OR
              Because you might kill a person, she’s only removing a blob of tissue.

              • Mountain says:

                Planned parenthood isn’t interested in removing “blobs of tissue”. They only wheel and deal in formed bodies that are weeks older. There’s no money to be had in “blobs of tissue”.

                • Lone wolverine says:

                  I read that if it wasn’t for gov. funded abortions since the 1970 s. Our population would be double what it is now . And 65% black. I know right from wrong I think I know right from wrong. But if our population was 65% black instead of 15% black white people would be fighting for their lives?

                • Lone wolverine says:

                  I read that if it wasn’t for gov. funded abortions since the 1970s the population of America would be double what it is now and 65% black. If we were 65% black instead of 15% black I wonder what would be happening now ?

          • Anonymous says:

            All right he’s been trying to start a war in this country for along time so you if you give up his guns your dead anyway or you’ll be locked up in internment camp !This is how much he and the Marxist eliets in congress hates America patriots Christians and conservatives but were number one on his hit list make no mistake about it! When the taxpayer-funded civil servants come out after you better be ready to protect one another stand together ,as the old man rancher and the Militas did in the southwest .I think the good Republican governors should call up their guard and their malicious and be ready when the taxpayer-funded long civil servants coming to their states or Obey Obamas is illegal unconstitutional laws.

          • MARCUS says:

            @Sixpack, you hit the nail on the head. Hell, theres nearly 100 TSA employees on that “watchlist”. If the reasons to go on this BS list are so great, why are we employing them to supposedly secure our aircraft?? Its all bs

          • Edmond Dantes says:

            I am surprised the Obama entity used the term millions of people, when the list has 700,000 names, because the list is name based, so while there are 700,000 names on the list, it applies to millions of Americans. Any one whose name matches one on the list will be barred by the background check system. The Obama entity;s regime has added over 2000 names a week each and every week of its regime. Also because any federal agent can add names to the no fly list without due process once they get this past, the tyrant in DC will have its minions add any one with a chl or who buys ammo on line or who belongs to a gun club to the no fly list, then any one with that or a similar name will be precluded from buying a firearm.

          • Mr Reynard says:

            What is insane is that million of Americans voted for this alien schwarza mamzer son of whore in to office !

      • eppe says:

        Seems that weapons have doubled in price in the last 4 years…

        Been a while…

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Eppe, that’s sad but true. GOOD deals on weapons are few and far between these days. However I did get a good deal on replacing one of my 2 favorite pistols today and I’ll be taking it to the range tomorrow for testing. I’m feeling good for the first time since the home invasion.

          • JOHN STINER says:

            The biggest bullshit problem with the WATCH LIST is the lack of due process. It is every American’s fundamental right to have a hearing. Whether it be a traffic ticket, a criminal trial, a zoning change for their house, or a tax appraisal protest. It is their right to have a hearing.

            There is no hearing process or due process for the watch list. So if you get put on the list by accident or intentional bullying by the government there is no appeal process to get off the list.

            Now Obama wants to automatically take guns away from people on the watch list.

            Revoke your fundamental right to own a gun and have no appeals process.

            America sure has gotten shitty.

            • Braveheart1776 says:

              JS, just like everything else the feds do, there’s no legitimate basis for the watchlists. They always claim they don’t have to justify anything they do. So I just disregard those lists. Anyone wants to take something from me they’ll just get killed.

              • Paranoid says:

                I’ve got 7-8 out of ten, How did you do on the list?

              • NorseMan says:

                Would there be any reason for a ‘No Fly’ list if we had confidence that TSA was doing their jobs and were capable of preventing ‘Terror in the Skies’?

              • Plan twice, prep once says:

                I live in a state with nasty gun laws. The last time they put me through the mill to exercise my Constitutional right, it took an extra month, because some nut job in the next county had a similar name.

                They asked me to sign a release so they could look at these mental health records. Afterward they said yup it wasn’t me, just a guy with a similar name!

                How is it that I could sign a paper and get another persons mental health records released? Clearly a hipaa violation, but hey as part of a gun control law that clearly violates our Constitution, no problem.

                May I say at this point, there is no gun law, or executive order illegally regulating firearms that could ever compensate for the total lack of leadership that Obama has displayed during his 7 years in office. Obama’s total lack of responsibility for protecting our borders has lead directly to multiple attacks on the USA. There is no excuse for Obama’s total detachment from reality, he is unfit for office and should resign immediately.

                • Anonymous Coward says:

                  PTPO: Is it not possible they pulled YOUR OWN records to see you didn’t have any and therefore are not the same guy?

                  Or, they gave the people with the other guy’s records your SSN or address or w/e and they said, no, the provided information does not match that on the records, so no can’t have them, so you’re not the same guy?

                  Point being, regardless, that there are ways to confirm you’re NOT that guy without releasing his information.

            • apache54 says:

              The NO-fly list is not very valid, some of us who have or had high level gov. clearances were on the list because of “SIMILIAR” names being used by known terrorists. I one who after five years and lots of trying to re-solve is STILL on the list and so he has to fly more military flights depending on where he is going. TRUE STORY! our government is so out of touch with reality and the people whom they are suppose to serve it is un-real!! like i say my favorite saying, time to CLEAN HOUSE and flush them all down the toilet!! Congress is a JOKE!!

              • john stiner says:

                Once i was in the Louisville KY airport flying back to Houston. My wife and two kids were with me. After going through the security screening we went to the gate to get on the plane.

                When we were just about to get on the plane a TSA agent approached me and said I had been selected for additional screening. They did a pat search on me, then let me continue.

                What really pissed me off is that a Muslim man wearing muslin long clothing and a long beard was in front of me in the line. He was traveling by himself and was carrying a violin case.

                TSA didn’t bother that person. So, let me ask you, how many Muslims have you ever seen play the violin?

                Really pissed me off. I was standing there with my wife and two kids and the skip the suspicious looking Muslim traveling alone with a violin case.

                What a fucking joke.

                • Tom in PA says:

                  John, those are tsa employees, imho. Happened to me twice – both at JAX. The same Muslim couple walked briskly through security checkpoint while I OPTED OUT and was busy getting my junk handled!!! Tsa shouts that loudly for all to hear.
                  I remember same processes TSA uses today were used on me and my family at the holocaust museum in D.C. back in 1984…

                • Little bit says:

                  Hey; They have to be politically correct and not offend. Unless, of course you look like a ordinary American citizen. Then,they turn you upside down and shake.

                  • Lone wolverine says:

                    Is unreasonable search and seasure. Another founding fathers fail.? Who says what is unreasonable. Is a strip search unreasonable .? Is a body cavity search unreasonable? We all know what is unreasonable. F the law.

            • Stan522 says:

              That’s the bottom line JS…. on the surface who wouldn’t want to limit bad guys access to weapons, but when it’s this administration left with determining who is bad, I call BS. I don’t trust the government, or whoever is pulling all the strings, to do the right thing.

            • Due process is dead. Note that a Republican House and Republican Senate voted overwhelmingly to fast track TPP… giving authority to Obama to make a massive trade agreement with no oversight, in secret, and binding to our nation. The corporations and banks who will receive benefit from this agreement spread money liberally for this vote, but under $50000 average for each one. Dang, these people are not only scuzzbuckets, they are two-bit whores. Imagine selling US sovereignty for no more than a 50000 campaign donation.

              Police can kill anyone they want. No due process.

              Watch lists can keep you off a plane or take away your 2nd Amendment rights. No due process.

              Police officers can steal any of your assets, civil asset forfeiture. No due process.

              NSA can spy on American citizens without a court order. No due process.

              And some people are obsessed with My Baby Mama. I would cry if it would help. It won’t, so I pay off my bills and grow a garden in the mountains.

              • Rebecca, your points are all spot on unfortunately. In fact it is even worse than you describe because many citizens still think all is well and will cling to their false beliefs that our gov is working for them and there is no police state, that is for paranoid conspiracy nuts. I run into them all the time via my site. Recently a rancher was shot and killed by police in Idaho and it was obviously a bad shooting by police(murder). I commented on a gun site some very rational thoughts and several police types jumped on me like donkey kong for simply saying it was wrong and we citizens should establish the boundaries for all police, not the police themselves. amazingly many still auto defer to what they think is righteous authority even in the face of an obvious murder and over reaction by police. They are completely afraid to consider anything except the old paradigm which of course is quite dead and gone. So they cling to their own demise and are not even aware of it ? I have come to the conclusion that much of the current insanity I am mentioning is because a huge % of our population is drugged ? Many are on illegal drugs and many are on legal drugs we call pharmaceuticals or medicine. But both have a very big affect on peoples ability to think and of course their overall health. So we have many zombies running around and they all vote ! The numbers are huge , well over 50% of our population when all is considered, so no wonder we see so much insanity pass for rational thinking. Most people have no idea we all live in massive illusions created for us and they are all control mechanisms !

          • Menzoberranzan says:

            ‘Those secretly blacklisted have no real path to challenge their status.’ I like my status; squarely against these evil muslim loving piece of shit fuckers. I am ready to fight.

          • NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin says:

            CUZ you had a home invasion? How many did you kill and what did you do with the bodies? You The Man!

          • Colt M4 says:

            Just look at the cost of ammo from 2 to 3 years ago, in some cases it’s went up over 50%. In the case of 22 long rifle, it’s went up over 100%!!!! Plus look at the cost of powder, bullets and primers for reloading compared to 2 to 3 years ago, all that stuff has went way up in price too, that is when you could even find it. Also i was just told that thanks to Obutthole, spam cans of surplus 7.62X54R and 7.62X39 have been banned from import into our country because Obutthole is pissed off at Russia for their war with Ukraine. I went to buy 2 crates of silver tip 7.62X54R today at the gun show, and the vendors were the ones telling me that the cheap surplus stock that we use to buy for 180 bucks for a crate of 880 rounds is gone, they said perhaps forever. They said that things had started to dry up about 2 years ago on the cheap spam cans, but now, because of Obutthole, supple is going to be even less. They said we will still be able to get import ammo for our Mosin Nagant, and AK47, but just not the super cheap surplus spam cans we use to get. They said the cost for what we will be able to get is going to keep going up. This all thanks to Obutthole’s use of his “phone and pen” executive order to stop it’s import.

        • Anonymous says:

          you think, look who is running Washington. It is not jst Obama, but the whole group.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Eppe, it’s the same with me and I don’t apologize for it.

        • eppe says:

          Amen Brave.
          Been burgulared twice, nice weapons gone.
          And they have gone up in price.
          Hope we can catch up in Dec…

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Eppe, I’m headed back to the BOL for the holidays but not sure about the date yet. It’s still possible for a meeting. I bought a Ruger Model 22/45 .22LR pistol for ONLY $250.00 this morning. That weapon normally retails for between $400-$500 new. The model I got was made in 1999. It came with 2 mags but NO owners manual. I found an owners manual at Ruger’s website but having trouble downloading it to my computer. I have a shitload of .22LR ammo so just need to get a couple of extra mags for it. I’m still going to replace the 9mm that was taken so things are starting to look up.

            • Paranoid says:

              Went to a gun show today in Spokane, Place was hip deep in terrorists, boy terrorists, girl terrorists, even some baby ones.

              • Genius says:

                Probably full of feds too…

              • john stiner says:

                Those babies are the worst kind of terrorists. Explosive diarrhea, Projectile vomit, Noxious Odors…….Don’t be so quick to dismiss those little bastards.

                • eppe says:

                  A story about expolsive diarrhea, posted before…
                  The Ryans steakhouse story.
                  ht tp://danmax.net/jokes/explosive_diahhrea.htm

                  Yall behave…

                  • john stiner says:

                    I haven’t laughed that hard in a while.

                  • eppe says:

                    js, I know, I have read that 50 times, still get a laugh out of it…
                    Makes one wonder where some names come from…

                    This young woman brought her child into Children’s Hospital for a routine check-up. On the records, the nurse saw that the child’s first name was Urine (pronounced Urin-ie). Not wanting to be rude, but wanting to know why this woman would name her child this, the nurse asked her how Urine got her name.

                    The woman explained, “Well, my baby was born premature and had to stay in the special nursery. She was real sick and they didn’t know if she would make it. I couldn’t decide what to name her, but the nurses said they would pray for her. One day I came in and the nurses had already named her. There was this paper on her incubator that said ‘Please save Urine’, so I knew that they had named my baby.”

                  • eppe says:

                    How about these??

                    Names reported to have resulted from misinterpretations of the written word:

                    Asshole (ah-SHOL-ee)
                    Clitoris (cla-TORE-us)
                    Enamel (EE-na-mull)
                    Female (fuh-MALL-ee)
                    Gonorrhea (gu-NO-ree-ah)
                    Lemon Jello (le-MON-juh-lo)
                    No Smoking (NAWS-mo king)
                    Orange Jello (or-AN-juh-lo)
                    Pajama (PAH-ja-mah)
                    Shithead (shaw-THAYD)
                    Syphilis (suh-PHYL-lis)
                    Testicles (TESS-tic-clees)
                    Urine (u-RIN-ee)
                    Vagina (va-GEE-na)

                    Names reported to have resulted from overhearing an unusual but flowery-sounding term:

                    Chlamydia (kla-MID-e-ah)
                    Eczema (EX-suh-ma)
                    Latrine (la-TREEN)
                    Meconium (muh-CONE-knee-um)
                    Placenta (pla-SENT-a)
                    Urea (YUR-ee-ah)
                    Vagina (va-JAI-na)

                    Hope that made yall laugh, cuz some are true…

                    Makes one wonder…

                  • eppe says:

                    [Reader’s Digest, 1958]

                    My friend R.B. Jones doesn’t have a first or middle name — only the initials R.B. This unusual arrangement was never a problem until he went to work for a government agency. The government is not accustomed to initialed employees, so R.B. had a lot of explaining to do. On the official forms for the payroll and personnel departments, his name was carefully entered as R (Only) B (Only) Jones.

                    Sure enough, when R.B. got his pay check, it was made out to Ronly Bonly Jones.

                • William says:

                  Projectile vomit? That’s what we get from the commander and chief when he speaks so hide behind the teleprompters. OH!!! May be it’s explosive diarrhea. Sounds bad and really stinks.

      • icetrout says:

        Obama is a Radical Islamist,he has armed & continues to supply ISIS. has members of the Muslim Brotherhood,which he is a member of in his White House Advisors… IT’S INSANITY TO ALLOW OBAMA TO ACT AS PRESIDENT OF OUR UNITED STATES ANY LONGER…

      • Rabbitone says:

        Fifty years ago our government said to me “… here take this M-14. We trust you to defend your country…” So blood was shed…

        Government today said to me “…Sorry we no longer trust you with firearms. We plan to take them away from you…” So …

      • Da Yooper says:

        I think it is insane to have a president who we can not vet or know who he really IS

        Bath house berry why do you hide your college records ? maybe because you are a lying fraud.

        put up or shut up you lying POS

      • Man on the inside says:

        The New York Times just published the newspaper’s first front page editorial in 95 years. It urged America’s legislators to outlaw civilian ownership of semiautomatic battle rifles. This editorial twisted words to castigate our militia arms as follows: ” These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection.”

        The editor went on to urge: ” Certain kinds of weapons, like the slightly modified combat rifles used in California, and certain kinds of ammunition, must be outlawed for civilian ownership. It is possible to define those guns in a clear and effective way and, yes, it would require Americans who own those kinds of weapons to give them up for the good of their fellow citizens.” [Emphasis added.]

        Those are fighting words. They’ve made it clear: These statists want to enact a law forcing civilian disarmament. This would of course be enforced under color of law, by their recently militarized bully boys in black. (Formerly in blue.)

        I have a few terse points for Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., Editor Dean Baquet, their subordinate editors of The New York Times, and all others of their ilk:
        1.The words of our Founding Fathers were unequivocal: “…the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Those words can only be taken one way.
        2.There are more privately-owned guns in America that there are inhabitants. The task of attempting go out and collect them is a Fool’s Errand.
        3.These are indeed ‘”weapons of war.” They are in fact our most important militia weapons. It was the specific intent of our Founding Fathers that our civilian populace be armed on an equal footing with any standing army. They have their M4s and we have ours. And by the way we also have even more powerful scoped deer rifles with 500-yard effective range. Millions of them.
        4.Even if just 3% of the citizenry were to take up arms against your intended tyranny, we would still outnumber the combined strength of the police and military by a substantial margin.
        5.There are 10.3 million licensed deer hunters in the United States, and around 22 million military veterans.
        6.Not everyone in law enforcement and the military will go along with your scheme. Many of them will have the backbone to stand against you.
        7.Any attempt to disarm the citizenry by force will surely be met by a matching resisting force. Aggression begets aggression. It will be you and your minions who will be the first initiators of force, not us.
        Lastly, and most importantly:

        8.You hint of “insurrection.” Yea, if you continue using such fighting words and if the fools in Congress do indeed enact such unconstitutional legislation, then by God, you will spark an insurrection of the sort that has not been seen in this land since 1781. There will be a second Civil War, and it will be concluded in a matter of weeks, not years. There will be blood, and that blood will be on the hands of the tyrants, not We The People.

        Tyrants deserve to have their bodies dragged through the streets. It happened to Benito Mussolini. It happened to Nicolae Ceaușescu. It happened to Muammar Gaddafi. Be warned: History does not precisely repeat, but it often rhymes.

        If you want my guns, sir, then come and take them. But when you send your thugs to my ranch, tell them to bring plenty of body bags and extra grub. Because they’ll certainly need them.

        Sincerely, – James Wesley, Rawles
        Founder and Senior Editor, SurvivalBlog.com
        Author of the novels Patriots and Land of Promise

        • I read this today. Good summary. I live in New Mexico, deemed non redouble material, but read his site daily. Good articles on eating unusual meats. Add a few edible weeds and you have great nutrition… better than high sodium canned goods.

        • Although I greatly disagree with a lot Rawles says and his approach to many of his thesis, I agree on every point in this comment. I personally think Rawles is a phony and there are many who are out there in the false paradigm of prepping as it is normally presented currently.

      • @ Eppe, Count me in. I guess I qualify having guns, well over 7 day food supply. Like you, I intend to keep my family safe and secure. Semper Fi!

      • slingshot says:

        Congressman Joe Walsh Dares Loretta Lynch To Throw Him In Jail

        December 5, 2015, by Ken Jorgustin

        Video over at Modernsurvivalblog.com

      • WEhat is really insane is the jihadi woman getting in here on a visa ? Pretty obvious we are not vetting people properly and that all the spying does not make us safer at all. Two shooters is not a massive attack by any estimation and they were stopped by police with small arms. Now many are talking about the heavy armaments ? WTF an AR or AK is not heavy arms and their bombs all apparently failed so they were not exactly experts ? They had the element of surprise in a no gun zone, what more do we need to know ?

      • Jerry Branson says:

        The issue of banning semi-automatic rifles of one specific type does not preclude the fact that many such weapons are already in the hands of private individuals. Sine many were purchased through private parties there is no record of the sales. Furthermore, there are huge numbers of other semi-automatic rifles that can also be used. Some are from WWII, Korea and Viet Nam.

        Finally, such restriction is totally Unconstitutional, period.

      • Anonymous says:

        Exactly, we do not know what is going to happen thanks to our illustrious government, look at what happened when the doctors went belly up, the housing crash and so many more in recent years. If we don’t try to put back for a rainy day we will end up hungry, we can put money in savings accounts but you don’t earn any interest, I put $50k in savings and I got 2 cents every 3 months, I put the 50k in a CD and I got 6 cents every 3 months so where is the incentive? The sad thing is the Banks are still charging us rates up to 23.99% ! Who are the real domestic terrorist?

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        It’s insane for the antigun lobby to want to make us all victims. They will pay dearly for their insanity. If they try to take mine, they’re history.

    2. Jim in Va. says:

      oh jeez….I’m dead meat!

    3. tazweiss says:

      Maybe Obama’s security detail should be disarmed to set a good example.

    4. islander says:

      The button pusher in chief is hell bent on starting a war in this country . I kept thinking if I ignored him he would go away but its so damn hard to do . every time he opens his yap more bullshit poors out . how can anyone be that full of shit

      • slingshot says:

        islander.

        I can’t stand the SOB either. Always has something to say and that is, IF IT SUITS HIS AGENDA! Still you have to listen to him to have an idea what he is up to.
        Too many people against us. Politicians, Bankers, Lawyers and plenty of dumb shits and the Free Shit Army.
        Fact is, if the Russians rained down nuclear weapons on us, I would not be surprised because of the way this administration handles its foreign affairs.

        Another point is that Obama talks big about how great this country is but he is doing his damnest to make it a third world country under a dictatorship.

        • Whatever pours out of obama’s mouth and anything from DC is the exact opposite from the truth. Watch and listen through a mirror to get the truth. America is being setup for destruction so they can rebuild their Utopia from the ashes. The best indicator is the under mining of our military. Everything else is a illusion.

      • Archives2001 says:

        He’s a Globalist PsychoPath…What can u expect!!!
        For a better comprehensive explanation, youtube Daniel Sheehan.

      • john stiner says:

        Starting a war, no.

        Surrendering to anybody that attacks us, YES.

        You have to fight back if you are in a war and so far OBAMA has not fought back against anybody.

    5. rellik says:

      The POS Mulatto in-chief and his enablers are the real threat to me. The state I live in, is run by his enablers. The governor wants to import terrorists. I won’t cry when they shoot up a Walmart. I know what the police reaction time is for the biggest city here. I’m sure someone else can figure it out just as easily. 5 minutes at best, 10 minutes more likely, 20 minutes after 2000 hrs.

    6. wormdirt says:

      “Here He Goes Again: Obama Says It’s “Insane” For Millions of Americans On Watchlists To Own Guns”

      What’s insane is that America is dumb enough to elect him twice. That’s the surest sign of the mental instability of the US.

      • smokey says:

        As far as I know, the watchlist contains far less than one million names, and not the ‘millions’ Obama is spewing.

        Next question is, how many of these names are Islamic?

        If Trump registers Muslims, will they get added to the list? Wonder what the left will have to say about that? Think they’ll start screaming ‘due process’, ‘innocent until proven’, that kind of thing?

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Wormdirt, the killing part is that DHS has never really advertised any of those watchlists. I only found out about those watchlists through alternative media 10 years ago. The MSM has never spoken about them.

        • Genius says:

          Their makin a list
          Their checkin it twice
          Their gonna find out whos naughty or nice
          Federal Claws is comin to town..

          They see you when your sleeping
          They see when your awake
          They know if you been bad or good so shut up for goodness sake

          You better not pout
          You better not cry
          Just do what your told and never ask why
          Federal Claws is comin to town

          The NSA is watching
          The CIA is too
          The FBI is on your trail
          Now whatcha gonna do?

          Oh you better not pout
          You better not cry
          Think of fighting back you better not try
          Federal Claws is comin to town..

          With facial recognition
          And cell phone spying too
          A database as big as hell
          Has all the dirt on you

          Oh you better not speak
          You better not type
          Orwell was completely right
          Federal Claws is comin to town….
          FEDERAL CLAWS IS COOMMMIINNNNGGG TOOO TOOOOWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!

          Thank you people thank you! 🙂

    7. One if I am one of the millions of Americans on a watch list it already proves one of two things. 1.) I either don’t give a flying flip about the laws of America or 2.) I am on said list because I am opposed to their one world initiative and agenda 21. You see Obama is like a little kid who is privy to a secret he has been told to keep but he can’t. I would venture to say those millions of Americans on said list are those who voted against him or are just plane openly opposing him

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Dave, welcome aboard. I’ve most likely been on lists going back to the Clinton era and don’t really care. I’m also opposed to the NWO agenda; hell, all of us here are for that matter. Obama can go f#$% himself.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dave , if they try to put too may gun owners on no fly lists , the airlines are gonna get involved .
        Money talks Obama’s bs can take a walk .

      • Nubmaeme says:

        Dave, about a year ago, a list was published with 72 categories for being on a watch list. That list included categories for EVERYONE in this country EXCEPT the extreme far left (i.e., Obama and his cronies)and the terrorists themselves. Don’t sweat the lists. With the millions of guns that have been purchased in just the last 7 years plus all that were owned prior, the left is truly insane if they think they can disarm all of us. Sure some sheeple will willingly hand over their BB guns but most guns will have to be pried from our cold, dead hands. After all there’s over 300 million of us and only a few thousand of them. They are grossly outnumbered and outgunned.

    8. smokey says:

      The reason Obama wants to see this pass is so they can start adding names by the thousands to the list.

      Then comes confiscation. If you can’t buy one, you can’t own one, either, right?

      • slingshot says:

        smokey

        “Then comes confiscation. If you can’t buy one, you can’t own one, either, right?”

        Agree, Not far behind.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Smokey and Slingshot, there are still private deals. I went ahead and bought a replacement for one of my 2 favorites that was taken in the home invasion so I feel good today for the first time since the incident. I’m taking it to the range tomorrow for testing.

          • smokey says:

            Glad you got a replacement, BH.

            Of course there will still be private sales, but guess what’s going to happen to someone who sells a firearm to anyone on the list.

            Do you think people on the list will not be targeted for gun raids? Not once, but several times?

            • Braveheart1776 says:

              Smokey, you make a valid point. But how does anyone know if they’re on such a list? DHS prefers not to advertise those lists and it’s impossible to find out if you’re on such a list. I could be on such a list for all I know, but the feds aren’t exactly going to tell me. I don’t care about any lists anyway.

              • apache54 says:

                Braveheart,
                you will know if you try to board a plane! other than that they won’t tell you any info. even after you find out you are on the list!

                • Brsveheart1776 says:

                  Apache54, last time I got on a plane was 1997, PRE-9/11 and PRE-DHS/TSA. I don’t even try to fly anywhere these days. If I can’t drive to someplace then I don’t go.

              • buttcrackofdoom says:

                i saw a headline somewhere today where they searched the guy’s house that sold them the gun…..now THERE’s sumthin’ to THINK about!

                • smokey says:

                  Yeah, he’s a fellow muslim, I heard, but the guns were sold to the shooters illegally under California law.

                  Those media stories about ‘legally purchased’ weapons are lies. The long guns are illegal to own in California, have been since 1999. The magazines are illegal as well unless they came with the gun before the new law took effect. The guns were sold by private sale, illegal in California. They were also modified out of legal compliance, with forearm grips, large magazines, flash hiders, things like that.

                  The seller has checked himself into a mental hospital, conveniently enough, and is not available to the police right now. They’re parked outside the rubber room waiting on him to discharge himself.

                • Anonymous says:

                  Fuck the search. These idiots stated hours after shootout that they had ties to people being investigated. Before a single word of that was mentioned fbi/dhs should have picked up every single person. That house was not dusted for fingerprints. On breitbart radio someone suggested the reason the pipe bombs were duds was because materials had been supplied by fbi undercover and they had planned to bust this group before it reached the point of terror, but the syed guy got pissed and shot his wad sooner than expected. Something to think about.

                  • smokey says:

                    Right, if someone suggested it on the radio, it must be true.

                    When the guy who said that appears on camera with his full name and FBI credentials, and the casefile documents to back it up, then I’ll think about that scenario. Until then, it’s bullshit.

          • Anonymous says:

            you should have bought a alarm system or a large dog. you WILL get burglarized again,now that they seen your safe.

            • smokey says:

              Yep, they’ll be back sometime around the end of January, after the insurance has settle up and you’ve bought new stuff.

              BH, delay the new 9mm and get yourself and alarm system for Christmas, it’s money well spent. You’ve got a pistol to carry, but no alarm. Two pistols and no alarm is not as good as one pistol and one alarm.

              • Braveheart1776 says:

                Anon and Smokey, I fully expect another ATTEMPT at some point. If they try it when I’m at home, they won’t get in. They’ll only have ONE CHANCE to turn around and go away ALIVE. If they try anything stupid, then BOOM BOOM.

    9. Oren says:

      Actually, it’s insane for millions of Americans to be on watchlists.

    10. Amos Moses says:

      We, “The West”, is at war. War with Islam and war with the people who are currently running our Government. Any other point of view is either a fantasy, or a lie!

      My right to self/family defense does not come from Barry/Hitlery/Putin/Bush or any other douche bag politician. Our Natural Rights come from God.

      Just like my right to express my opinion, so Loretta Lynch can suck it!

      Mohammed was a thief, murderer, and a pedophile. The Quran is a pack of lies. Allah = Satan. ALL Muslims practice a form of Antichrist behavior.

    11. Old Guy says:

      There are so many guns that the government hasn’t a ghost of a chance of collecting even a small percentage. Gun sales are higher than ever.

      • GenEarly says:

        If the “Gov” wants to follow Obamy, then they can start collecting ammo…..fired ammo.
        They will have to answer the question….do I want to give my life for little bath house Barry Sotero?

    12. Ketchupondemand says:

      Did anyone see the show on tv about biker gangs a few days ago?
      They (FBI? -didn’t watch the entire show) had a ban on one gang’s “colors”, and if caught wearing it, they were deemed a “terrorist”.
      Holy shit, this traitorous bastard won’t talk about the Muslims among us, just “guns bad”…events are unfolding just as he wanted and just as we all feared.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        Ketchup, now they claim certain types of clothing are ‘terror-related’? They can go f#$% themselves. I wear whatever the hell I choose.

      • Anonymous says:

        Communists, fascists, and or globalists fear patriots. The armed populace is a major thorn in their ass and keeps them from executing their agenda to the fullest extent.

        If they can just conveniently add everyone to their so called list of terrorists they can take and disappear people who they don’t like. This is no different than some of the tactics that stalin and hitler used to silence opposition.

        They’ve added a bunch of patriots who stood between them and the Bundy family to the terrorist watch list and that is what it is all about.

    13. GenEarly says:

      https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/12/05/quote-of-the-month-24/

      Reckoning dead ahead. No quarter asked or given. Decision time for those on Gov payrolls…..Treasonous Tyrants or the Constitution you swore an Oath to protect and defend.

      We have plenty of rope.

    14. Asshat says:

      How can one be on a no fly list if they don’t fly. My take is you’d have to try to get a flight to checked out before you could board a plane. Looks like gov wants to destroy the airline business that’s fine by me. As for guns Obummer wants to get the assault weapon ban reinstated this time all semi autos that are magazine fed too. This would put us in revolver and tube fed guns. It will never work because there are so many autos out there but it looks good to the libtards utopian dream.

    15. Stars & Bars says:

      Little known fact; In many Muslim countries inbreeding is very common. The idea goes back to that old bastard Mohammed himself.

      The idea is to keep the clan/tribe pure by marrying within it. Thus it is not uncommon for first cousins to wed/have kids. This has been going on for 1,500 years in some places and explains the across the board low I.Q.’s in many Islamic Countries.

      • Watch list? Me? says:

        Yes, but the muslum cult need people dumb as dirt. It not as if intellegent people are going to fill their ranks.

        • buttcrackofdoom says:

          they are keeping the gene-pool shallow over there, evidently….and it SURE DOES SHOW!!!!!!!!

          • cradletograve says:

            Speaking of the shallow gene pool, here is something for all you Marco Rubio supporters.

            He just recently admitted that he voted against the House bill to stop refugee immigration until a better vetting solution could be established, because, quot ” we don’t need to go that far with halting immigration”.

            And then in the same interview, he stated we need to pause and look at the immigration vetting process.

            He is pandering to his liberal billionaire supporters, while trying to speak out of both sides of his mouth and ass at the same time, trying to be everything for everybody.

            Also, he opposes the USA Freedom Act that puts restraints on NSA spying.

            Just another globalist politician that has sold out. A true con man.
            Buyer Beware!

            • buttcrackofdoom says:

              if voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us DO it! mark twain was a genius….and don’t forget his OTHER famous quote, if you don’t read the internet, you’re uninformed, if you DO read the internet, you’re MISinformed.

              • buttcrackofdoom says:

                judge jeanine video, will follow with link, she starts out with a couple good ideas, but then she goes off the
                rails with the idea we need to give our cops even MORE guns and
                equipment….300 cops were required to take care of TWO(or 3)
                terrissts!….if we all(or, even just a BUNCH of U.S.) had a GUN when these
                MUSLIMS(yes, they’re muslims, and they want U.S. DEAD), then we DON’T fukin’
                NEED a single damn COP…..and of coarse, she’s a JUDGE, so enforces
                illegal(against the constitution) laws requiring people to have a LISCENCE
                to defend yourself(concealed weapon PERMIT)…you can’t even carry a KNIFE,
                or a club, to defend your LIFE while walking, without fear of going to jail,
                in america …trade security for freedom, and you end up with
                NEITHER!…then she wants to close the borders…DRRRR, of COARSE we need to
                close the borders! we got over a HUNDRED MILLION americans that don’t have a
                job…how many MORE can we take in, when we aren’t taking care of our own as
                it is…..seen any homeless walking the streets lately? she started out
                sounding like a real patriot, but she sure did blow it before she even got
                half way through…..why can’t americans see what we have become?….with no
                way to protect ourselves(legally), relying on the cops to show up to help,
                but 95% of the time, they end up just filling out the reports of what
                happened….remember,…when SECONDS COUNT, a cop is only MINUTES
                AWAY!…..we really DID trade security for freedom, and ended up with
                NEITHER!

      • babycatcher says:

        This is interesting, i didn’t know that. Hmmm. I was wondering.

      • smokey says:

        Read something about this a week or so ago, it’s true, marriage between first cousins is very Islamic and approved at all levels of their societies. The result is at minimum a high level of birth defect and classic retardation, much higher than non-incestial societies.

        One kicker to all that is, since the suppression of slave raids from the Islamic world, the rate of inbreeding has risen exponentially and the levels of defect are likewise increasing.

        I’d like to think that if we could just hold out for another three or four hundred years, there would be no threat from Islam, but any idiot can strap on a bomb vest or push the button on a nuke.

      • alias says:

        lol…
        Inbreeding like the Royal Families, eh?
        I have heard about Muslim men walking around together holding hands. This is explained as being ‘friendship’. Hey, you got all the woman covered up, and no alcohol, then you’re supposed to pray 6 times a day, sometimes its behind another guy and you’re on your knees behind him, then bowing down to sniff his ass as he bends over too in front of you. If you make it to Mecca you get to shuffle around the meteorite exhibit 7 times, then its back to bending and sniffing while prayer howlings blare from the loudspeakers.
        I have known some very gracious Arabs… there are many good Muslim doctors and professionals, but the religion imposes too much on the individual IMO.

      • RedRocker says:

        This is a true statement. Our pilots when trying to train Muslimes were shown to have VERY poor night vision. This is due to their effed up chromosomes; too much inbreeding. They couldn’t be checked out for night operations. FUNNY!

      • Genius says:

        The elite around the turn of the 20th century tried in breeding with disastrous results.

    16. Archives2001 says:

      Obummer is a shill for the UEs (uber elites).
      There are two insiders who can give u a full explanation of what this means.
      Youtube Craig Hulet and Daniel Sheehan.

    17. Philip Dennany says:

      Actually there are over 300 of us citizens on the NSA surveillance watch lists. But don’t worry about us supposed potential terrorist as the US Home Land Security have enough on hand hollow point ammo to wipe us all our many times over when Obomber decides it?

    18. rednek101 says:

      It would be interesting to find out if any of the recent “mass shooters” were on any of the watch lists. Probably 0.

    19. Infidel says:

      Civil War soon approaches! Be ready for the games to begin. Now who in their right minds will come after our guns; WHO? I say after the first week nobody will be coming, because the dumb one’s will be dead and the rest will say no way I’m going keep trying. If you want Mr. Obama you go get them, and take your lackeys you.

    20. Kulafarmer says:

      Come n get em arseholes

    21. TEST says:

      Thomas Sowell notes countries with stronger gun control laws than the US, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico (Mexico basically bans firearms completely, yet has a higher gun homicide rate than the US), have much higher murder rates, while there are many countries with high rates of gun ownership but low murder rates, such as Israel, New Zealand and Finland. In fact, in Mexico, the murder rate is 22.7 murders per 100,000, whereas the global average is ~7 homicides per 100,000, and the gun happy US is 4.8 murders per 100,000. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-end-gun-debate-forever.html. *******That is correct – the US, which has the widest gun ownership in the world, is below the worldwide average in homicides.*****

      Of course, in the US, approximately 90 million legal owners of guns, owing 300 million firearms; 99.999% murdered zero people last year. Contrast that with the approximately 170 million Prof. R.J. Rummel of Univ. of Hawaii, in his book Death by Government, says were killed in the last century, the majority of them after their governments disarmed them (Stéphane Courtois, author of the highly regarded Black Book of Communism estimates 94 million were murdered by Communists alone). An hour long, very sobering summary video documenting what happens when the population has their weapons removed can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDivHkQ2GSg&feature=player_embedded#t=8s Or perhaps one might wish to contrast this to the 32,000 people who lost their lives – including thousands of youth – in car accidents last year (see http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s1103.pdf or http://www.nhtsa.gov/NCSA to get the latest exact figure).

      And for those of you who correctly answered the “cars are necessary, but guns are not” objection, a gold star, for indeed you are correct – but armed population, as the Founding Fathers repeatedly noted, is the sine qua non of a free country and a free population. “Free” as in – as historical records show – comparison to a country like the USSR, Cuba or China that end up murdering millions – including children (just google “Ukrainian Kulak” and look at the photos of millions of children who were murdered by Stalin’s government. As the saying goes, “Free men have guns; slaves do not.”
      A recent interview in The State Journal of West Virginia, talking about guns and the 2nd Amendment: Predictably, the media talking head, who is of course anti-gun, interviews Keith Morgan, president of the West Virgiinia Citizen’s Defense League. The reporter indicates a national debate on guns is long overdue. (Yes… apparently leftist media reporters all get their same talking points from the same, lame “LeftistTalking Point Depot!”), to which Morgan replies “I have to take issue with the immediate premise that we started out with that it’s a long overdue discussion. The discussion is as old as the country itself. The Framers set everything up and settled that discussion pretty well with the wording and language of the Second Amendment…”

      Mr. Morgan has it 100% nailed on the head!

    22. TEST says:

      HOW EFFECTIVE IS GUN CONTROL?

      A 2000 study by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms revealed that 47% of guns used for crime are obtained via a straw purchase, while another 26% are stolen. So, how effective is firearms control in practice? In gun-control happy Chicago – which has banned guns for all practical purposes – the city has become the leading “alpha” city for gun murders in the world. 2012 (last I looked) ended with around five hundred murders in the city. http://news.yahoo.com/chicago-reaches-500-homicides-fatal-shooting-145951769.html – sixty of which were children! In fact, “gun free” Chicago had more murders than the entire nation of Japan in 2012, and actually, as of April 2013, was averaging one shooting every 6.3 hours http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/04/rahmaland-one-shooting-every-63-hours.html. Corrupt socialism will do that for you!

      For comparison, drug war ridden Mexico City has 8.0 murders a year per 100,000 population, Moscow 9.6, Sao Paolo 15.6 and Chicago 19.4. Similarly, Washington DC, which has banned concealed carry since 1975, has one of the highest rates of murder in the U.S. And of course, one might also have the temerity to ask why there are no theatre, mall or school shootings in Israel, where a goodly percentage of the population is armed, including fully automatic weapons. (Picture from http://janmorganmedia.com/2012/12/why-you-dont-hear-about-any-school-shootings-in-israel/ )

      Let’s examine Chicago and a similar size city, Houston, which has concealed carry. How do they compare?
      Chicago , IL Houston , TX
      Population 2.7 million 2.15 million
      Median HH incom $38,600 $37,000
      % African-American 32.9% 24%
      % Hispanic 28.9% 44%
      % Asian 5.5% 6%
      % non-Hisp White 31.7% 26%

      A reasonably similar matchup -until:

      Chicago, IL Houston, TX
      Concealed carry gun law No Yes

      # of gun stores 0 84 dedicated gun
      shops,1500 places to
      buy guns (Walmart,etc.)
      Homicides, 2012 506 207
      Homicides per 100k 18.4 9.6
      Average Janhigh temp, F 31 63

      Presumably the leftist conclusion from the above is that cold weather causes shootings! Am I exaggerating? Here is a woman on a university campus, circulating a petition to have pressure cookers banned because they cause bombings: http://www.ijreview.com/2013/04/49187-college-students-sign-petition-to-ban-pressure-cookers/

    23. TEST says:

      SAN BERNARDINOS THAT NEVER HAPPENED, DO TO LEGAL GUN OWNERS EXERCISING THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS:

      Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, same week as the CT shooting: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero. (More details on this theatre-shooting-that-wasn’t because the shooter was stopped by someone with concealed carry is at http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/the-theater-shooting-the-main-stream-media-didnt-focus-on-why/ )

      – Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I’m excluding the shooters’ deaths in these examples.)

      – Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.

      – Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates — as well as the “trained campus supervisor”; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

      – Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman’s head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

      – Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One. (Coulter neglected to cite some other cases, such as the high school shooting by Luke Woodham in Pearl, Miss., or the New Life Church shooting in Colorado Springs, CO., where armed volunteers stopped the mayhem immediately.

      Then here was a shooter who opened fire two weeks after the Sandy Hill massacre. Unfortunately, he did it in a place where people were armed – the Gloucester Township Police HQ – and, while people were wounded, no one was killed except the shooter. http://news.yahoo.com/3-cops-shot-nj-police-station-143541945–abc-news-topstories.html

      On Aug. 29, 2010, and armed gunman, Thomas Richard Cowan, entered Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TN., and pointed his gun at the head of the school principal. This may well have ended up another Sandy Hook event – except for the fact that a Sullivan County Sheriff’s Deputy, Carolyn Gudger, was stationed at the school, and confronted the gunman with her own gun. Cowan retreated from this confrontation, and was later killed when he pointed his weapon at other police who had arrived since the initial confrontation. No Sandy Hook here. That’s because there was armed resistance.
      Doug Giles, citing WaPo’s Eugune Volokh, notes some other cases http://townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2015/10/11/dear-antigun-zombies-yes-dillweeds-civilians-can-stop-potential-massacres-n2064031/page/2 :

      1. In Chicago earlier this year, an Uber driver with a concealed-carry permit “shot and wounded a gunman [Everardo Custodio] who opened fire on a crowd of people.”

      2. In a Philadelphia barber shop earlier this year, Warren Edwards “opened fire on customers and barbers” after an argument. Another man with a concealed-carry permit then shot the shooter; of course, it’s impossible to tell whether the shooter would have kept killing if he hadn’t been stopped, but a police captain was quoted as saying that, “I guess he [the man who shot the shooter] saved a lot of people in there.”

      3. In a hospital near Philadelphia, in 2014, Richard Plotts shot and killed the psychiatric caseworker with whom he was meeting, and shot and wounded his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman. Silverman shot back, and took down Plotts. While again it’s not certain whether Plotts would have killed other people, Delaware County D.A. Jack Whelan stated that, “If the doctor did not have a firearm, (and) the doctor did not utilize the firearm, he’d be dead today, and I believe that other people in that facility would also be dead.”

      4. In Plymouth, Pa., in 2012, William Allabaugh killed one man and wounded another following an argument over Allabaugh’s being ejected from a bar. Allabaugh then approached a bar manager and Mark Ktytor and reportedly pointed his gun at them; Ktytor, who had a concealed-carry license, then shot Allabaugh. “The video footage and the evidence reveals that Mr. Allabaugh had turned around and was reapproaching the bar. Mr. [Ktytor] then acted, taking him down. We believe that it could have been much worse that night,” Luzerne County A.D.A. Jarrett Ferentino said.

      5. Near Spartanburg, S.C., in 2012, Jesse Gates went to his church armed with a shotgun and kicked in a door. But Aaron Guyton, who had a concealed-carry license, drew his gun and pointed it at Gates, and other parishioners then disarmed Gates. Note that in this instance, unlike the others, it’s possible that the criminal wasn’t planning on killing anyone, but just brought the shotgun to church and kicked in the door to draw attention to himself or vent his frustration.

      6. In Atlanta in 2009, Calvin Lavant and Jamal Hill broke into an apartment during a party and forced everyone to the floor. After they gathered various valuables, and separated the men and the women, and Lavant said to Hill, “we are about to have sex with these girls, then we are going to kill them all,” and began “discussing condoms and the number of bullets in their guns.” At that point, Sean Barner, a Marine who was attending Georgia State as part of the Marine Enlisted Commissioning Education Program, managed to get to the book bag he brought to the party; took out his gun; shot and scared away Hill; went into the neighboring room, where Lavant was about to rape one of the women; was shot at by Lavant, and shot back and hit Lavant, who then ran off and later died of his injuries. One of the women was shot and wounded in the shootout, but given the circumstances described in the sources I linked to, it seemed very likely that Lavant and Hill would have killed (as well as raped) some or all of the partygoers had they not been stopped. This incident, of course, involves a member of the military, not a civilian, so some may discount it on those grounds. But Barner was acting as a civilian, and carrying a gun as a civilian (he had a concealed-carry license); indeed, if he had been on a military base, he would generally not have been allowed to carry a gun except when on security duty.

      7. In Winnemucca, Nev., in 2008, Ernesto Villagomez killed two people and wounded two others in a bar filled with 300 people. He was then shot and killed by a patron who was carrying a gun (and had a concealed-carry license).

      8. In Colorado Springs, Colo., in 2007, Matthew Murray killed four people at a church. He was then shot several times by Jeanne Assam, a church member, volunteer security guard and former police officer (she had been dismissed by a police department ten years before, and to my knowledge hadn’t worked as a police officer since). Murray, knocked down and badly wounded, killed himself; it is again not clear whether he would have killed more people had he not been wounded, but my guess is that he would have since he went to the church with more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition.

      9. In Edinboro, Pa., in 1998, 14-year-old Andrew Wurst shot and killed a teacher at a school dance, and shot and injured several other students. He had just left the dance hall, carrying his gun — possibly to attack more people, though the stories that I’ve seen are unclear — when he was confronted by the dance hall owner James Strand, who lived next door and kept a shotgun at home. It’s not clear whether Wurst was planning to kill others, would have gotten into a gun battle with the police, or would have otherwise killed more people had Strand not stopped him.

      10. In Pearl, Miss., in 1997, 16-year-old Luke Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned to death his mother at home, then killed two students and injured seven at his high school. As he was leaving the school, he was stopped by Assistant Principal Joel Myrick, who had gone out to get a handgun from his car.

      The Marc J. Victor article cited elsewhere in this paper adds several more incidences to the list above, where an armed populace prevented a Sandy Hook massacre. Victor cites a 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, MS., stopped when the vice principal retrieved a handgun from his truck; a 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun; a 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard; a 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Virginia came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter; a 2007 mall shooting in Ogden, Utah ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened; a 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas was halted by two co-workers who carried concealed handguns. What part of “guns saved lives” don’t leftists get?
      Let me answer the question above, if I may. Here’s what leftists don’t get – and which illustrates they really don’t ultimately care as much about each precious life lost at Sandy Hook as they do their precious agenda (and yes… please do use your best Gollum voice from Lord of the Rings when you say the word leftist “precious agenda”; and no, our guns are not precious to most gun owners – rather, our freedom and liberty are precious, and guns are simply a guarantor of that). One story – which represents thousands of other unreported stories every year – with the headline of Woman Hiding with Kids Shoots Home Intruder Multiple Times, illustrates the point very simply: A quick précis of the story will suffice. “A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday… The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar. But the man eventually found the family. The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,” Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh. The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved…” http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/
      This story has more than meets the eye. Suppose it was not just a single home invader, but three or four – and she was a resident of shot capacity limiting New York or another state banning those evil assault rifles that carry too many rounds? What if she – like many of us – wasn’t such good shot, under duress (and possible darkness), and missed with her six rounds? Then what? While she may have to abide by the round capacity laws, the criminal – who is already a criminal and thus doesn’t care – can carry a high capacity weapon on his side, making the law even more dangerous for the law abiding citizen – not safer.
      Pam Loman of Shawnee, OK. went through the same experience a few weeks later, scaring off three men trying to break into her home. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/13/Oklahoma-Woman-Stops-Robbers-With-Her-Gun reports: “She was cleaning her home on Friday when a man knocked on her front door, while two others stayed in the car. When she did not answer the man resorted to banging on the door. Mrs. Loman got scared and went for her gun.“So my instinct was to go get a gun. I don’t know why, I never in my life felt like I needed to go get a gun,” said Mrs. Loman. She had both hands on her .32-caliber pistol when the man knocked down her door. “And just all of a sudden, with one kick, he knocked the door completely in. The frame came flying down. Things came flying everywhere,” she said. “And he saw that I had the gun, and he grabbed the door handle and pulled the door shut.” Mrs. Loman said if he did not run away and came into the house she would have shot him.”
      At the risk of – pun intended – overkill, here are ten other stories cited by John Hawkins that you may review to understand how guns saved the lives of men or women, stopped rapes and saved the lives of children: http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/02/02/10-stories-that-prove-guns-save-lives-n1503549/page/full/. Another similar story of a woman saved from being beaten – possibly to death – by a concealed gun carrier who protected her is here: http://fox6now.com/2013/03/12/marine-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops-man-from-beating-woman/ . And here’s a few more for the road in the event the above is not enough to convince you of the utility of guns to save lives:
      • A convenience store clerk and an immigrant defend themselves against attackers in Florida. The attackers fired first and were aiming to kill, these men defended themselves and protected the innocent. http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/15/3183760/two-robbers-shot-dead-in-hollywood.html

      • A man in San Antonio walks out to find a man going through the contents of his locked vehicle. He confronts the man and lawfully defends his life and his property. http://www.kens5.com/news/SAPD-Car-thief-killed-another-wounded-outside-Stone-Oak-home-186923501.html
      • A family in TN had a man threaten to break their door down in the middle of the night. They went for their firearms and called for help. They called the police who responded remarkably fast, in just 4 minutes they were there. Unfortunately it took less than 4 minutes for the criminal to break their door down and come in their home, even after being shot at. This was a man determined to achieve his criminal actions.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/15/Tennessee-Family-Uses-Firearms-To-Stop-Late-Night-Intruder
      • A woman home alone in Oklahoma in the middle of the afternoon has a man kick her door in. She was quick enough to grab her revolver and the man upon seeing the revolver closed that door he just kicked in and turned tail. I bet she wishes she had more than 6 rounds available to her, I guess in NY she could have had seven. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/13/Oklahoma-Woman-Stops-Robbers-With-Her-Gun
      • A man in Houston has a criminal shove a gun in his chest as he tries to get into his vehicle. Two nearby good Samaritans come to his defense and give chase to the criminal while they are being shot at. The victim a non-gun owner sure seemed thankful that these two men happened to have their carry permits issued to them. http://www.khou.com/news/local/Robbery-victim-wants-to-thank-Good-Samaritans-who-came-to-his-rescue–186572461.html. This story illustrates exactly how guns have been used in the citizenry’s responsibility to protect the innocent (see http://www.protectfreedom.com/2012/12/17/gun-control-and-the-second-amendment-need-to-find-harmony/ for one writer’s take on this).
      Of note is the fact that, as Bruce Bialosky notes at http://townhall.com/columnists/brucebialosky/2015/10/11/what-hillary-and-obama-dont-know-about-gun-control-n2063527/page/2 , “Illinois is the ninth most restrictive state for gun laws, yet Chicago is a murder zone,” and “The only state amongst those judged the most lenient where there was a notable incident of mass murder in this recent string is Arizona in which the Tucson incident occurred in 2011. In judging what is the most or least lenient by the Brady Campaign, they judge open carry laws as being a lenient factor which John R. Lott Jr. states from multiple studies deters crime because criminals are unsure who might be armed to defend themselves; and, when needed, the victims can defend themselves.

      • rednek101 says:

        Excellent post sir. Good info.

      • KY Mom says:

        TEST,

        Excellent post! Thank you for sharing!

      • Brsveheart1776 says:

        OK, here goes it. Black males commit 75% of all homicides in the US and most of their victims are other black people. That’s FBI and DOJ statistics, available at their respective websites.

        • anonymous says:

          So, from a guy who says we should NEVER believe anything the Feds say is now completely on board with fbi and doj statistics, nothing like being a total hypocrite to confirm your rationale there brave.

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Hi, troll, how’s it going for you? Have yourself a home invasion just like I had recently and tell me how you feel afterward. Even without those studies, it’s still a fact that black males are more likely than any other group of people to commit serious and violent crimes. do you live in a city by chance? If so, then what group of people do you see in the back seats of squad cars more than anyone else? In my area, MOST of the people I see in the back seats of squad cars are black males and that’s all the time. And I know damn well it had to be one or two black males that broke into my place. So the incident has just made me more determined than ever to protect me and mine. I’m not giving up shit.

        • AGENT SKINHEAD says:

          A Muslim nigger has attacked travellers at a London underground tube station, Laytonstone.

          He cut the throat of one fella and stuck a couple of others.

          He was heard shouting “THIS IS FOR SYRIA”

          Fuckin’ asshole.

        • smokey says:

          That’s with a population of 30 million out of 300 million, just 10% committing crimes far in excess of their population proportion.

          But get this, black males are about 15 million, so it’s just 5% responsible.

          Even further, it’s black males between 15 and 30, about 3 to 5 million. So it’s about 2% of the population is committing two-thirds of the crime, across the entire spectrum of criminal activity.

          We can solve the problem, it’s not that large that it can’t be targeted and dealt with.

    24. Anonymous says:

      Disarm all of govt first then when Muslims get here they will visit them first,soft target.

    25. So if the govt has you on a “watchlist” because you are a prepper does that mean you cannot own a gun, what if you are a member of the NRA and the govt has you on a watchlist because of that, no gun according to the liberal govt then? I’m sure a govt especially a liberal one can create all sorts of watchlists for people they don’t agree with so law abiding citizens will then be prevented from owning guns.

      • Genius says:

        How can they stop you? Unless your an asswipe.

      • Genius says:

        How can they stop you? Unless your an asswipe.

      • Jessica says:

        they’re not liberals, they are radical nwo globalist communist and fascists.

        hitler and stalin had similar wsys of trying to silence political opposition.

        the armed populace at large is a major thorn in their asses and is a major set back for them and keeps them from executing their agenda too quickly as they know most people won’t go along with it.

        this is why they are waring on political opposition, gun owners, gun manufacturers, and guns in general. Eric holder has been trying to brainwash the public into thinking about guns in a vastly different way since 1995.

    26. TEST says:

      Great! So, let’s let our Dear Leader lead by HIM getting rid of his Secret Service detail. Following this, all the Hollywierd Learjet leftist hypocrites can get rid of their armed security details, Michael Moore can dump his armed guards, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein who says her draconian gun control laws, can quit carrying.

      I say bully! Let’s start with all these radical leftists getting rid of any armed security details. Let them lead the way!

    27. INFIDEL says:

      You are on the Watch List if:
      You are a Patriot.
      If you Do Not support ISIS.
      You’re A Christian.
      A Conservative.
      Ron Paul supporter.
      If you did not vote for Obama.
      You own (Dare I Say It) a GUN.
      If you have a brain & can think for your self, You might be a Terrorist.

    28. Abolish the Federal Reserve says:

      I’m probably on the no fly list because I meet 9 of the 10 to quality.

    29. USMC1982 says:

      That pesky little 2nd amendment just keeps getting in the way “the right to bear arms shall not be infringed”.

      Does not matter what barry signs, if it is in coplict with the 2nd amendment, it is not law.

    30. Braveheart1776 says:

      AG, Loretta Lynch is talking about prosecuting anyone who speaks out against Muslims. She has no problem standing up for Muslim POS trying to hurt our country but doesn’t give a damn about how many US citizens are killed by those animals. Well I say the Muslims have some of the worst intentions imaginable toward our nation and must be challenged and stopped. How about that, AG? The only way she ever got anyplace is affirmative-action. She can’t really tell any of us what the f#$% to do anyway.

      • slingshot says:

        Braveheart1776

        How is she doing on, “Fast And Furious”. Holder is laughing his ass off.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Slingshot, don’t be surprised if “Fast And Furious” is still continuing. I can’t confirm it, but it’s hard for me to see that operation being stopped when Lynch took over. From all accounts I’ve seen, she’ll be just as bad if not worse than Holder, and won’t have any more leg to stand on than Holder or any of her predecessors. The worst AGs I’m aware of John Mitchell, William French Smith, Janet Reno, Alberto Gonzales, Eric Holder, and I think Lynch will earn a spot on that list.

    31. PA farmer says:

      Ha,Ha since Oblowjob likes to $icky d!ck he can suck mine!. There is 636,237 deer hunters in the woods in PA right now with sniper rifles, good luck taking them or tracking that many. And that’s an army just in one state. Doj and all of them make me sick to my stomach. While I was setting looking for that big one, I’m thinking it’s not uncommon for most around here to own up too fifty guns.I was also thinking about the number of guns out there, since they started making guns up till present that is way more than the numbers could be, and what happens to a gun if it’s took care of, nothing, last forever. So what I’m saying is they will never win.
      P.S. floppy ears is a Faget!

    32. Anonymous says:

      !!!!GO BARRY GO—you are saving the USA with your MARXIST Lip.
      I talk to People Everyday that were OH Obama hes Great ayer or two ago ..Now CURSE THE BASTARD .Keep diggin that grave,,,,a little deeper and then?+—-____________.

    33. Ron Ahrens says:

      32 years in Law Enforcement protecting the citizens and property of this country with my life and now I am labeled a domestic terrorist by my criminal genocidal Corporatist Fascist US Government. Cowards wonder why I call these fascist psychopathic criminal NWO monsters out for their TREASON, GENOCIDE, and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. It is going to be so nice seeing all these NWO psychopathic fascist criminals and their criminal gangs in the Republican and Democrat Parties rounded up and arrested after the final collapse, that will be a true day of celebration. It will also be so nice seeing the fascist propaganda spewing criminals in the mainstream media rounded up and arrested for their involvement in the NWO planned collapse of America.

    34. Houst/cypress/Katy/shtf says:

      Just heard and read today that if I say anything bad about muslim jihadist that our asses will be arrested and that this is going to be law..this must be for another state because I live in Texas. One thing is a certainly is that I will terminate any phucking Muslim jihadist that comes near me. So I guess i should be expecting a knock on My door after this post….so I have. a few things to say. Phuck the jihadist muslims, phuck those muslims jihadist fighters that are posing at refugees.. oh, I just said something bad about muslims didn’t I. Gee is am really scared our of ass right now..

      Aka,

      HCKS.

      Let me see you try it..how dare I talk with such disrespect.. well I just phucking did.

      Molon labe.

      • Brsveheart1776 says:

        HCKS, I’m the same way. Nobody is taking me alive, period. Keep on speaking out against the Muslim threat and everything else the feds are doing. they’re not legitimate. they don’t have a leg to stand on.

        • It has been awhile, but bumped across this great YouTube presentation on that subject..suffice to say, it made sick sense: current events show them doing this NOW!!! If the American sheep do not wake up to this, we are a doomed nation!!

    35. Amos Moses says:

      “Islam is as dangerous in a man, as rabies is in a dog” Winston Churchill

    36. Wryter says:

      Hey, the man says it’s insane. Well, he should know.

    37. I’d be proud to be on his ‘watch list’. He probably doesn’t realize he’s not only many of us military people’s ‘watch list, but also on our ‘hit list’. It’s comin’, people, trust me!

    38. Sovereign_Citizen says:

      Are these the same watch lists that nobody gets to know when or why they were put on?

      Are these the same watch lists that have been established to be UNCOSTITUTIONAL?

      Well, you can always buy guns in Mexico and walk them back across the border. You can find them in the Fast & Furious bins in the open markets down there.

    39. Marilyn Zack says:

      The insanity does not belong to the millions of Americans. The insanity is creating watch lists, spying on Americans, refusing to face the truth that we are dealing with radical Muslim terrorists and allowing caliphats to exist anywhere in America.

      It’s known as denial and insanity and every one of our leaders allows it to continue.

    40. Ian Duncan says:

      How about it is insane to have millions of Americans on any of these LISTS!!!!

    41. Invest in pork belly futures while you can! says:

      Er, were either of the San Bernadino sweethearts on any of the watchlists? Apparently not.

    42. arationofreason says:

      I seem to be on all 10 watch lists. Does that mean there are 10 organizations watching me at the same time? Seems pretty inefficient. If this country has millions on the lists, I think the government has a real problem. If this is the extent of the qualifications, then there is no problem at all.

    43. 1vet says:

      Barry likes to throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

      I believe on Black Friday there were two background checks conducted every second all day long. This doesn’t include weapons purchased by CHL holders, for instance in Texas where my CHL is my back ground check if I’m buying…

      TPTB know if they come out with a mandatory confiscation that won’t work. If they even intimate in the slightest, increased restrictions in any way, gun sales triple overnight…

      They could try drying ammo up but what about the 100,000,000 rounds sold last week???

      The only path I see open is to scare the sheep badly enough that they will beg for their own loss of freedoms…

      • Kulafarmer says:

        There is NOTHING that would scare me enough to
        1. Stop saying what i feel or want
        2. Give up my means of protection and retribution.
        3. Let the gov take over my home or property
        4. Let them come onto or into my property or take said property without severe consequences for all.

    44. Infidel-2 says:

      Looks like there is another INFIDEL here so I’ll change my handle. To Infidel-2

      Cowboy Stew Dutch Oven Recipe
      Ingredients:
      1 lb. ground beef
      1 onion
      3 potatoes
      (all cans are about 15 oz.)
      1 can green beans
      1 can baked beans
      1 can black beans
      1 can tomato soup
      1 can corn
      1 can diced tomatoes
      1 tsp Chili powder
      1 tsp cayenne pepper
      1 bay leaf
      Salt and pepper
      Instructions:
      Cut potatoes into 1 inch cubes.
      Dice onion.
      Heat dutch oven to 350 degrees for Frying.
      Brown ground beef and onion.
      Add potatoes and all cans, undrained.
      Add spices (more or less if you like bland or spicy)
      Cook until potatoes are soft (about 45 minutes), stirring every 5 minutes.

      Serves about 8.

      • smokey says:

        Take out all the canned stuff and you’ve got my Dutch Oven Pot Roast for camp life. The onions and potatoes are kept whole, however, and added about halfway through.

        Just can’t beat a good cast iron oven meal served in fresh air.

    45. Warchild Dammit! says:

      Never,and I mean never,give up your firearms without a fight to the death.That said,firearms are but one weapon in the arsenal of freedom,they basically need to outlaw almost all items/products,until then,plenty of info and weapons that could if necc. be made,what the hell is going on with these idiots!This country facing very tough times on so many fronts,and they want us to disarm,good luck with that!

    46. f16hoser says:

      In other news; Obama pledges to put “All Americans” on Watch-List….

    47. Anonymous says:

      F16hoser he is already on All of Americas watch list,we are watching him!

    48. The fundamental issue here is the Fifth Amendment.

      “No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

      Specifically: “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law…”

      Due process of law. This is the target here.

      People are placed on the no fly list without due process of law, and with no legal recourse. Obama wants to strip anyone he dislikes of their rights – and it won’t stop with the Second Amendment rights – without due process of law.

      Next it will be curtailing free speech, by classifying the truth, and anything else he finds inconvenient, as “hate speech.”

      The bottom line is that Obama is a Muslim infiltrator, a subversive, and a traitor. He hates this country. He hates the Constitution. And he hates you.

    49. molonlabe says:

      Apparently Farook wasn’t on either a watch list or no-fly list, so it wouldn’t have stopped him anyway. This is just another grasp at disarming the people. The simple truth is that evil will always find a way and taking guns away from people enables evil all the more.

    50. rednek101 says:

      Video of the week

      ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7MAO7McNKE

    51. Anonymous says:

      “Obama Says It’s “Insane” For Millions of Americans On Watchlists To Own GunObama Says It’s “Insane” For Millions of Americans On Watchlists To Own Guns”

      Then stop bringing them here Obama.

    52. Nunya Bidness says:

      Wait a sec. MILLIONS of Americans are on the terror watch list. And out of convenience, these totalitarians only wants those MILLIONS of people to be forbidden form owning guns.

      Wake up people, you’re/we’re prolly all on that list reading sites like this and the event that nobody seems to be able to fully understand isn’t likely long away.

    53. lost karma says:

      Back in the 70s an Israeli school bus full of kids was blocked on a street by a truck. The bus driver saw two men with Molotov cocktails running towards the bus. The driver who was an Israeli military reservist told the kids to get on the floor. His pulled out his service Beretta and shot through the windows at them and backed them off.

      Terrorists don’t need guns to commit atrocities. A well armed public may prevent them. Liberals will never understand this.

    54. AGENT SKINHEAD says:

      Somebody stick a fork in Obama, he looks more than over cooked.

    55. oldman says:

      off topic ???’s
      just saw the video and still photos of the home and garage of these terrorist…bothersome for me to see the areas that we use to dust for prints void of any print dust…print dust on a scale that should of been applied in this situation would be very easily seen, it makes an awful mess that is not easily cleaned up…any current leo’s, are we employing different methods now??

      • smokey says:

        Seems to me that every person who was in that house should be identified from fingerprints, then see what needs to be seen.

        From the reports, there were several Middle Eastern males visiting the garage bomb shop at all hours.

    56. slingshot says:

      The president is supposed to be on T.V. for whatever reason. The News Media will be under the podium sucking his dick. Don’t care to watch cause you will here what he had to say for days to come. Chinese water torture in a way.
      I think about the Christmas season.

      Plastic People
      Using Plastic Money
      To buy Plastic Gifts.

    57. Satori says:

      Prepper Tip of the Day

      How Much Coleman Fuel Do I Need?

      h ttp://modernsurvivalblog.com/alternative-energy/how-much-coleman-fuel-do-i-need/

    58. Illini Warrior says:

      Blacklisting goes ALOT further than just weapons ownership/buy/carry ….

      They make those computer lists available to almost any company/agency doing a background – don’t be surprised when you get called on the carpet at work – mysteriously lose your job – or get denied jobs time after time ….

    59. KY Mom says:

      Cuomo Sends Investigators After Blackout Forces Shutdown Of Nuclear Reactor Near NYC

      “Almost 2 years after being fined for falsifying safety records, and 7 months after a transformer exploded at the Indian Point Nuclear Reactor (just 30 miles from midtown Manhattan), Entergy – the plant’s operator – has ‘safely’ shutdown the Unit 2 reactor due to a major outage cut power to several control rods.

      Despite the company’s reports that no radioactivity was released to the environment, NY Governor Cuomo has sent investigators to the site to ‘monitor’ the situation.”

      Zerohedge

    60. Comment I posted yesterday, 12-5-15, after sending a scathing letter to the president:

      I see where our anti gun pro Islamic leader wants to use the “No Fly List” as a tool for firearms prohibition, specifically, he said “there are people on the no fly list that can walk in and buy a gun! If someone is deemed unsuitable to fly, they should not be allowed to buy a gun!” Is this loon for real? The no fly list is managed by faceless bureaucrats that are beholden to the confiscator in chief….you can be put on the list for being politically incorrect, for telling a TSA goon what you think(they were janitors before becoming “law enforcement” agents) and for a multitude of other reasons, none of which have a tinkers damn to do with guns! There are no set rules for determining who should and should not fly, which opens the door to abuse on a major level! This man has indicted he might take “executive action” to control guns! He is dangerous to all firearms owners, unless you live in Chicago or in Mexico!

    61. Jack Clancy says:

      Stand against tyranny.

    62. Archivist says:

      Jerry Falwell, Jr. is calling for Liberty University students to arm themselves.

      The Governor of Virginia is livid.

    63. Anonymous says:

      “It’s another tragic reminder that here in America it’s way too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun.”

      It’s also a reminder that it’s way too easy for dangerous people will ill intent to enter America.

      But I doubt that anyone on his side of the aisle will be pointing that out.

    64. brad says:

      So – which watchlist was this San Bernardino one stopped by? That’s if you even want to pretend that this false flag event was real.

      How about those 17 people shot in Louisiana despite being a felon (not allowed) and doing it in a gun control city – can’t let anyone know that there are non-white male terrorists out there by golly……

    65. Them Guys says:

      Let me know if you hear Falwell Jr plans to return his daddys Private Jet given to him 100% FREE when at same time Israel& NY wealthy jewish kommies also gave a free Jet plane to Hagee in Texas…Boy they sure Must kiss kosher ass alot eh!

      • smokey says:

        Why should he return his own property when you live on land stolen from the Native Americans. Boy, you sure must kiss a lot of red ass, eh?

        Stupid white guilt Jew-hating hypocrite.

        • Them Guys says:

          Says the Kosherboy FOX TV believer!….indeed whites could have simply waited a few more years untill every savage red injun killed each other off and then no need for any war against savage butchers eh…

          Only none of my folks came to usa till after all that and after civil war era so i got zero white guilt, zero jew guilt and have zero expectations for any of Your shabozz jewy jew types will ever awaken fully to the TRUE nation wreckers that 4000 yrs history proves of whom they are.

          ok dismissed smoky! be a good little shabozz goy and replace your head back up your jewish master race owners ass…Make sure Marco Jubio and McStain move their heads over to a side so to make more room for yours eh.

          60-70 Million more same as smokey are worse nation wreckers than even the tribe they so defend unquestionably always….idiots stuck in deep denial.

          • smokey says:

            Bigoted Jew-hating filth like you have nothing but ‘kosherboy’ and ‘Fox TV’ to hurl as insult. Well, I’m neither of those things, and my family came here in 1685, so just what the hell else do you have to stand on?

            When SHTF, folks like you are going to be gone, there’s no difference between you and any radical muslim or criminal lowlife crawling out of the ghetto.

            You just keep on stringing buzzwords together in your little rants, all you’re doing is self-identifying as a moronic hater.

            No decent community is going to put up with you once the legal requirement to allow you to live is gone. Be careful what you wish for.

    66. MrApple says:

      Well, it seems that I qualify under the list in the article to have my Rights stripped away. I’m not happy about that.

    67. Mr Smith says:

      We in the UK gave our guns in and it did not make us any safer because the criminal still carry and now the police use tazar guns and push us around as they like.

      Once they have taken away guns from americans then they will come for your wages, your pensions and your property, give them nothing and chase the banker out of town before you get screwed even more than now.

      Tell them to stuff registration, insurance and any other bullshit they come up with and if that means taking your guns along when you tell them then so be it.

      • GenEarly says:

        +10 you Brits had to ask for guns from private citizens in the US for your home Defense forces in WWII following Dunkirk. Then when the danger was past and the war won, you fired Churchill and crushed the gift guns from the US. Your mates in Australia did the same. Why?
        You fought bravely for your country, but your NWO Royals have eunich-ed you. Now the Islime Moosies dominate you.
        I’m sorry for old England, but now us “Yanks” have our own problems and won’t be rescuing anybody again.
        In fact on our current trajectory we are headed for civil war, again. But We will fight these NWO ProgreSSives and their moosie brownshirts.
        Can you even say what I just said?

    68. Anonymous says:

      But, cops, military, and criminals who, by definition, don’t (and don’t have to) obey laws, can have many, many guns to use on Americans in order to coerce (“govern”) Americans to do whatsoever “their” powers-that-be will them to obey. What’s insane is that Americans keep playing the game, to which they are addicted by their weakness, of complying with both a government by others whom will always be out to victimize the individual by enslaving him or her to the State (the “Republic”, etc.) and its inherent Big Business system that the people are, therefore, also enslaved by, just as domesticated (“civilized”) livestock are helplessly addicted to being fed, kept and slaughtered by their keeper. The reversion of individuals to their natural state–just as a pig, if freed from captivity–can revert to being a wild pig, is the future for all who would be free from being captive.

      The hurried fall of the Establishment, and all that depends on it, including those too hidebound to it to separate from it, is the liberation of the individual from its captivity. “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (Revelation 18:4)

    69. Iguana green says:

      1776 will commence if they try to take the guns.
      But I think that with cash buy outs, places like NY,CT,NJ,PA,NH and such will give away their 2nd ammendement right for a lie.

      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        Iguana,some folks will sell out in any state.That said,have you ever lived/visited N.H.(new hampster),you have got to be blind if you think folks there will sell out on a large basis!

    70. eppe says:

      To all;
      With all the events going on, and the spying going on, what is one to do?
      Sure OSPEC is on going, but we should be able to communicate here at the least…

      I know, dreaming again….

    71. slingshot says:

      I spent some time tuning in my air rifles. I was told you have to shoot about 200 pellets before the accuracy improves. Along the way you figure out which type of pellets shoots the best.

      Accuracy is getting better. Single pumps can wear you out.

      Various types and weights of the pellet groups are tightening up. I just have to adjust the scope for the pellets I will shoot.

    72. Simple analogy shoots down gun control push from San Bernadino terrorism.

      If the following was response everywhere gun control comes up as solution to San Bernardino type terrorism, it’d help shut down that lunacy and also enlighten & awaken some fence sitters…

      This anti-gun rhetoric from liberals coming out of the terrorist attack in San Bernardino is as goofy as would be blaming easy access to SUV’s if they’d, instead, rammed theirs through a crowd at high speed killing dozens. The threat is the killers, not what they used. We’re all kept vulnerable while any try to shift the focus elsewhere.

      Be interesting to see who among the GOP start saying something similar.

      – Shane

      • smokey says:

        They kinda tried that with SUVs, our Seattle paper has had more than one headline like ‘SUV kills pedestrian’ or ‘Deadly SUV kills family on interstate’.

        My favorite was when Mt. St. Helens blew up, the headline was ‘Killer volcano erupts’.

    73. Kevin2 says:

      Is the statement “millions of Americans” on a watch list accurate? If its millions, there is something seriously wrong with the common denominator in one or many ways. Its like a manager saying, “I have bad employees”. The most likely culprit is the manager.

    74. Staff reporter says:

      Headline: “Obama Says It’s “Insane” For Millions of Americans On Watchlists To Own Guns”

      SR: Watchlists (including no-fly lists) violate the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment which states that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. Obama wants to make it worse. The government could just put everyone on a watchlist, and take everyone’s guns away .

      Civil-forfeiture laws violate the Due Process Clause too. Like where cops can take your money and/or car at a traffic stop, it they don’t like the looks of you, and then it costs you a million bucks in legal fees if you try to get your stuff back.

    75. carbon 14 says:

      tg, it’s always the old dried up shit talkers like you calling for people to take up arms, yeah, now that you’re too old and fucking worthless for anything you want people to do what you’re scared shitless of, getting off your tired old ass and doing something other than posting your sorry assed whining as an alternative to actually having a life. What a sorry ass douchebag you are old man.

    76. areyouready? says:

      Today’s buzz phrase is ‘death to all Islam/Muslims’ in America that fail to adopt our Constitution and Laws.
      Can you hear us now, Loretta??

      I just exercised my first amendment right.:-)

    77. Asshat says:

      Since when did a no fly list become a no gun list. Only felons can’t own guns legally but they don’t care about the law anyway. I like how deer hunters think they can take on a resistance force. Fuckin stupid deer don’t shoot back. Hunting is gay unless you need meat to survive. I’d rather go to a butcher. Hunting would be fun if the deer had rifles to shoot back. Obummer is gonna get some gun control before he leaves office. Stock up on drums and high cap mags. They are on their way out.

      • Warchild Dammit!w says:

        Asshat,would like to see in bill of rights regarding guns anything about being law abiding/mentally sound,what have you,seems no restrictions in these regards,of course,I don’t have a fed decoder ring to read the bill of rights!

    78. desertspeaks says:

      personal guns are bad?

      government guns, rifles, flame throwers, drones, bombs, tanks, planes, aircraft carrier, submarines, NUCLEAR WEAPONS, killing, murder, rape, theft, fraud and lies are good??

    79. alias says:

      Recently 72 employees at DHS were found to be on the DHS terrorist watch list.
      DHS had a 95% failure rate detecting things like weapons on passengers as well.
      DHS is doing the vetting for these refugees.

      A link to this story is at Drudge today.

    80. old76 says:

      so lets get this right, Obama doesn’t want Americans to have guns but he does want a known enemy of ours(Iran) to inspect their own Nuclear Weapons plant, Trump is right, there is something about Obama that we don’t know.

    81. Mr Smith says:

      Obama will have us all on the watch list including anyone who’s right of center.

      He is just a puppet following orders, they won’t change no matter who you vote for and Trump says he’s not for sale when it comes to Israel but he will be kissing the bankers arse if he ever get elected, you see.

    82. Anonymous says:

      Insanity runs in politicians bloodlines. People that want arms good or bad will always be able
      To buy them. Even if they implement their plans it will not work its to late, once the refugees arrive so will more guns, bombs, etc. they are expert at supplying weapons. Criminals need guns
      To operate, guns will be like drugs worth big money…….

    83. Anonymous says:

      The watch list is not a list of people it is a list of names, Obama has added 2000 names a week to the list since he was immaculated, and there is no judicial process involved, and no way to get off the list once on it, and the regime can tweak the parameters any way it wants to add names to the list. A recent vacation package where the cruise ship went to Muslim occupied Constantinople, then the passengers flew back through Athens, those passengers names were added to the no fly list, so now the Obama entity wants to deny second amendment rights to any one who has the name of one of those passengers.

    84. Liza Jean says:

      The assumption is that being on a ‘watch list’ means that you are potentially dangerous, but being on a watch list doesn’t really mean anything. Anybody can report anybody and that person is put on a watch list. There are so many that the government does not have the manpower to check each and every one (millions??).

    85. Linda says:

      Pro life people, Vets, anyone that believes in the Constitution, Christians. Anyone but Muslims.
      This traitor has 72 people in DHS that are on the FBI watch list and you and I are the problem.

    86. JUST REMEMBER: The more people that get put on the watchlist or no-fly lists, makes the lists less and less valid….with only limited resources, the feds can only watch a certain number of people. At some point, there would be so many folks on those lists, that they (the lists) would be basically worthless. If everyone is a suspect, then no one is a suspect.!!!!

    87. Billy says:

      I heard on the radio today there are 72 persons working full- time in the DHS and some may have access to secret information but are actually on the no-fly list. But according to the prez must be okay as long as they don’t own a gun. How odd is that! Well, it is odd because he will show not his real sentiment, therefore the confusion with his policy. His problem solving can’t work, his policies must pass his ideological muster to the point of irrationality.

    88. JOEL WS says:

      Q: How many communists does it take to screw over this country?

      A: 6. 1 in the White House and 5 of 9 in the Supreme Court.

    89. O Liar is not legally qualified to pass any Laws,bills or otherwise, he is an illegal immigrant with false identifications all provided by George soro’s and hundreds of politically corrupt Democrats, judges and lawyers who are party to a perpetrated crime of deception and lies.
      It probably the biggest conspiracy ever committed in American history and many innocent Americans have died who knew the truth and were murdered (Mrs. Fuddy and Mr. Breitbart just to name a couple, but there are many, many more and the injustice will be known, The Clintons are knee deep in this conspiracy, and why would people even consider the Thief and Liar Killary is beyond any stretch of the imagination, the Clintons stole 250,00 dollars worth of furniture and artifacts that we paid for, for our White House, six (6) billion dollars are unaccounted for that belonged to the Tax payers. Benghazi was orchestrated by obuma and killary and they tried to cover it up, making fools of their employees and the American public and Two Americans died making it six murders and clinton and obuma have their blood on their hands and yet killary has the gull to be running for president while obuma is scheming to find away to reign in Communism, and once again the American people are being deceived and Lied to non-stop.

    90. Narco says:

      Keeping the 7+ million losers with three or more felonies alive is insane.

    91. Anonymous says:

      Employ the sword while we use our mighty pen in the internet thank goodness we have this
      To keep up on the evil we will have to face in today’s world. Being informed , people that are smart, is empowering,more of us than them………

    92. Devils creek says:

      Hello to all new here

      • If this regime paid as much attention and used resources for the real bad guys instead of our own citizens and vets and others who simply disagree with BHO and crew we would all be much safer and better off. Borders have been wide open for years and we are worried about our veterans and the false paradigm of patriots as terrorist? All created by this regime , so we waste all our time and resources on exactly the wrong things ! and all very deliberately by BHO. Pretty obvious all the spying has been on our own people and he is all about destroying this country ! So the spying has done nothing at all except to harrasse those who oppose this regime ! all criminal acts .

    93. Jack Kinch says:

      The second amendment was added to the Constitution so Americans could/should be armed to protect themselves from a government like the one we have now.
      A non-American (P)resident giving citizenship to other non-Americans, allowing/bringing muslims into the country. Never forget.

     
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