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    Governments Worldwide Will Crash the First Week of October… According to 2 Financial Forecasters

    Washington's Blog
    July 20th, 2015
    www.washingtonsblog.com
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    financial-collapse-dominos

    This article was originally published at Washington’s Blog.

    Update: Please see correction at the end.

    Two well-known financial forecasters claim that virtually all governments worldwide will be hit with a gigantic economic crisis in the first week of October 2015.

    armstrong1Martin Armstrong

    Martin Armstrong is a controversial market analyst who correctly predicted the 1987 crash, the top of the Japanese market, and many other market events … more or less to the day.   Many market timers think that Armstrong is one of the very best.

    (On the other hand, he was jailed for 11 years on allegations of contempt, fraud and an alleged Ponzi scheme. Armstrong’s supporters say the government jailed him on trumped-up charges as a way to try to pressure him into handing over his forecasting program).

    Armstrong has predicted for years that governments worldwide would melt down in a crisis of insolvency and lack of trust starting this October.  Specifically, Armstrong predicts that a major cycle will turn on October 1, 2015, shifting investors’ trust from the public sector and governments to the private sector.

    Unlike other bears who predict that the stock market is about to collapse, Armstrong predicts that huge sums of capital will flow from bonds and the Euro into American stocks.  So he predicts a huge bull market in U.S. stocks.

    edelson1 Larry Edelson

    Edelson is another long-time student of cycle theory.  Edelson – a big fan Armstrong – has also studied decades of data from the Foundation for the Study of Cycles.

    Edelson is predicting the biggest financial crisis in world history – including a collapse of government solvency – starting on October 7, 2015 – the same week as Armstrong’s prediction – when the European Union breaks up.

    Edelson also thinks that huge sums of investment will flow from the Eurozone to America, driving up U.S. stocks (unlike Armstrong, Edelson thinks U.S. bonds will also benefit). He thinks that Japan will be the next domino to fall … and that Japan’s default will also drive investments into the U.S. as a safe haven.

    In other words, both Armstrong and Edelson think that – as the best looking horse in the glue factory – the U.S. stock market will skyrocket as others fall apart.

    But to be clear, both believe that the domino collapse will eventually hit the U.S., and America will end up defaulting on its debts – and falling into financial crisis – as well.

    Are Armstrong and Edelson right or wrong?

    We don’t have long to wait to test their very public predictions …

    Note: Here’s more on Armstrong and Edelson.

    Correction: Several people have pointed out that Armstrong is not predicting that the crisis will be felt on October 1, 2015. Rather, he’s forecasting that October 1st is a major turning point, but that the governmental financial crisis may not be felt until some months later.

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    Date: July 20th, 2015
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    1. eppe says:

      If it never happens, it is okay with me…

      • Kfilly says:

        eppe, I kind of share that sentiment. On the other hand, I am waiting for God to return. God won’t come back until the SHTF. So, it may as well happen now.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Jebus will neber return. Its another bs scam to fleece the sheep out of their savings. And nobody has ever gotten or been granyed ever lasting life (john 3-16) either. Avoid all scams especially afinity fraud by religion. The gullible are always targeted. Stop being a victim.

        • sodbuster says:

          I believe we are only at Revelation 6:3, the second seal and the fiery red horse. Still have a long ways to go me thinks. Where were these guys in 2007, I didn’t hear a lot of crash forecasting. I don’t believe any man that predicts future dates about events beyond their control.

          • katrina Survivor says:

            Sorry friend thats the 70th week which doesnt begin until after the rapture of the church study Daniel 9:24-27 with emphasis on “thy people”

            • Anonymous says:

              FROM COLLAPSENET.COM

              Earth’s Most Famous Climate Scientist Issues Bombshell Sea Level Warning

              “In what may prove to be a turning point for political action on climate change, a breathtaking new study casts extreme doubt about the near-term stability of global sea levels.

              The study—written by James Hansen, NASA’s former lead climate scientist, and 16 co-authors, many of whom are considered among the top in their fields—concludes that glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica will melt 10 times faster than previous consensus estimates, resulting in sea level rise of at least 10 feet in as little as 50 years. The study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, brings new importance to a feedback loop in the ocean near Antarctica that results in cooler freshwater from melting glaciers forcing warmer, saltier water underneath the ice sheets, speeding up the melting rate. Hansen, who is known for being alarmist and also right, acknowledges that his study implies change far beyond previous consensus estimates. In a conference call with reporters, he said he hoped the new findings would be “substantially more persuasive than anything previously published.” I certainly find them to be.

              To come to their findings, the authors used a mixture of paleoclimate records, computer models, and observations of current rates of sea level rise, but “the real world is moving somewhat faster than the model,” Hansen says.

              Hansen’s study does not attempt to predict the precise timing of the feedback loop, only that it is “likely” to occur this century. The implications are mindboggling: In the study’s likely scenario, New York City—and every other coastal city on the planet—may only have a few more decades of habitability left. That dire prediction, in Hansen’s view, requires “emergency cooperation among nations.”

              “We conclude that continued high emissions will make multi-meter sea level rise practically unavoidable and likely to occur this century. Social disruption and economic consequences of such large sea level rise could be devastating. It is not difficult to imagine that conflicts arising from forced migrations and economic collapse might make the planet ungovernable, threatening the fabric of civilization.”

              The science of ice melt rates is advancing so fast, scientists have generally been reluctant to put a number to what is essentially an unpredictable, non-linear response of ice sheets to a steadily warming ocean. With Hansen’s new study, that changes in a dramatic way. One of the study’s co-authors is Eric Rignot, whose own study last year found that glacial melt from West Antarctica now appears to be “unstoppable.” Chris Mooney, writing for Mother Jones, called that study a “holy shit” moment for the climate…”

      • I also take specific time frames with a grain of salt… But Armstrong made these forecasts a decade ago… Edelson follows similar models…

        Armstrong is incredibly accurate.. It’s pretty amazing actually.. He called the Japanese stock market crash, the US S&L scandal and crash, and the Russian economic/currency crash in ’98 — and the forecasts were accurate almost to the day.

        One thing, as Washington mentioned in his follow-up note — Armstrong is not saying that all of a sudden we are going to see a market crash that day… His forecasts discuss specific turning points and paradigm shifts… Curiously, the Chinese will be petitioning to make their currency part of the global SDR basket…

        Who knows how this will go, but it is prescient that all of this is happening in October of 2015 given that Armstrong pegged 2015.75 the turning point date in his forecasting models developed over a decade ago.

        • Rodster says:

          I believe Armstrong has called Oct 15th 2015 as the day when the SHTF. Something tells me it could be a normal day in the can kicking saga.

          • Braveheart says:

            Rodster, I tend to agree. I never trust anyone who sets dates for any type of event. They usually end up with egg on their faces.

            • durango kidd says:

              I chose Oct 15 through 22 of 2014 for a correction in the markets. There was a correction that began on Oct 15th and ended on Oct 22nd. Its in the archives.

              I said SHTF would begin in 2015 in 2012 when everyone else thought the sky was falling then. That too is in the archives. I warned about American pensions before anyone else had a clue, but were asking “Whats Next?”

              I took a lot of heat from a few trolls here for those warnings, while destroying the idea of “hyperinflation” and the “death of the dollar” promoted by the ignorant.

              Its pretty clear now that the financial meltdown has begun in earnest and that the opening salvos of WW3 have been fired.

              Think of the nuke agreement between Iran and America as the “non-aggression pact” between Germany and Russia. Think of the sanctions against Russia as the embargoes on Japan in the 30’s. And we all know how those actions ended.

              When history doesn’t repeat itself, it rhymes. 🙁

        • Kulafarmer says:

          Well,
          Im not going anywhere so will see what we see!

        • james says:

          Well if it is in Oct I will be in my new residence by then. I think I will go fishing. I have been here for a long time and agree about a lot subjects here and have not done stuff to have a good time for as long as I can remember. That is over. I am prepared as much as a guy with no money can be so now is the time to relax which I fully intend to do!
          If SHTF so be it. I will do the best I can at the time and not worry so much. God Bless James

        • Nobama says:

          Wait, it’s on the internet so it must be true.

        • Charley Waite says:

          Mac, I love your site, but enough with the economic SHTF forecasts. We all get it but no one knows when. There is nothing else out there? Jade Helm? Obama and the race data index? Putin? China? Ebola? Race Wars? Fluoride in your Ovaltine?

          LOL. Gotta dig deeper!

        • Anonymous says:

          I feel strongly a major SHTF event will occur this fall…hope not.

          I used to have faith that everything would turn OK– This is God’s world and He is ultimately in control. And so I thought it would be OK… that a lot of people would die but some would survive.

          Last night, it dawned on me: MANY civilizations in the past thought they were special and they would survive AND THEY DIDN’T!!! Some were more highly advanced and certainly more spiritually evolved than ours… yet they perished!!!

          Considering what all is occurring around the globe–US determined to “conquer” Russia and China; Fukashima and other nuclear facilities around the globe in dire situation, GW (awful climatic events– like what is occurring in CA), etc. the situation really does NOT look good! Cliamte scientists are saying “we are f—ed!!” (they have been saying this for some time). And even if you don’t believe in GW– think about the water situation! anyhow, mankind has not woken up and its doubtful he will in time– in order to solve all the stuff coming our way!!

    2. Acid Etch says:

      Recently I have seen a few instances of people acting out in public. Have you seen this? Can you feel the tension in the air? People are very, very angry with their lot in life.

      • Paranoid says:

        Yes, Wow, in the last few postings you have maintained composure, avoided porfanity, amd made significant cogent points, which I agree with. EVERYONE; ALIENS HAVE KIDNAPPED ACID ETCH AND PUT IN A RINGER!

      • Warchild Dammit! says:

        Acid,no doubt tempers are higher/patience thinner.We are being bombarded with bad news,summer temps are high(OK,not death valley but still),economy despite the lies getting worse,tis no wonder folks all a bit more ratcheted up!I have gone thru the worst year of me life,for some reason happier then ever in some ways as I am living more in the moment and realise life is short and can either be pissed or make the most of time left.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        Can be pissed at everyone else all they want, in the end its up to us to figure out our own shit,,,

      • Braveheart says:

        Acid, still on your trip? sounds like you been having a good time. We’re all angry with our lot in life and been given all kinds of reasons for being so. I’ve been feeling tension in the air for awhile now. Something huge is coming.

      • Jim in Va. says:

        Look who is calling the kettle black acid.

    3. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      BS. Oh everybody’s going to crash except the US Stock market will rally as a safe haven. Lets see.. mermaids, unicorns, lepricons, ex-cons. I also hear Michael Milkin is also back to his old tricks too. Ok next article… zzzzz. LoL. Lets talk about weapons, guns knives and security in SHTF. This babe I met works in a Gun Shop, says she hunts wild pigs here in FL with dogs and knives. Corner them and butcher them. I want this chick on my SHTF Team.

    4. taxedn2poverty says:

      I’m not Armstrong so I’ll ask a question instead of making forecasts. So here it is: The United States Government has to get a new budget passed by Oct. 1st., don’t they? Where will this play into the pending collapse? Sorry, that’s two questions. PS: It’s and old and completely worn out saying, but I just feel something very terrible, beyond imagination is coming down the road. And I’m convinced that what my grandparents went through during the depression and WW2 is going to be a joyride compared to what is awaiting us. God’s blessings upon all.

    5. deano360 says:

      we have heard this for several years running, just because it keeps getting said means nothing… i myself am more incline to believe what george soros says… he is saying that by 2017 if i remember right, the U.S. economy will fall 45%… that i would believe, not these people who keep saying the sky is falling… yeah its going to crash, but it will take something a little bigger then whats happining right now…. dont get me wrong, the economy cant keep going like it is much longer, its just a matter of time… and a very short time at that

    6. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      Everything is already crashing… the gig is akready up. The market has been propped up for years on borrowed tarp money, QE and margin debt. I would not be stupid enough to be tied to any stock market right now. Listen to me,….. I’ve never been in prison. I also predict winter solstice will happen on Dec 20th. Mark your calendars.

    7. hammerhead says:

      I think i may move up a couple jobs on the schedule this year……….Just in case.

    8. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      Yeah….G Soros who predicted Ferguson Riots as he dumped about $2 Mil of his money into the rioters pool to create the chaos.
      Soros should be in prison eight now for promoting and funding Ferguson Riots.

    9. Northern Reb says:

      I have heard this al before and if it does happen it will happen. I’m not going to loss any sleep over it.

      The only bad thing about it is that it will mess up my planned retirement. And that will be the second time my retirement plans will have to be changed.
      S.T.S.F.P. N. Reb

    10. swinging richard says:

      We keep chipping away but we always want more time. The world economy is so large that it would be hard for anyone to pick a date for a total collapse..

    11. he is counting on the 3rd GREEK bailout NOT working. No way world economy will go bad BEFORE christmas. However 2016 is a possible economic disaster

    12. German boy says:

      Which is more or less in keeping with Lidsay Williams, SHTF on 15 of September

    13. Copperhead says:

      Crash they nailed it. No crash well lets see how about sometime this decade around 2pm. does that work for you. It go’s to HELL when the ass clowns want it too no sooner, no latter, just be prepared. I take all this crash shit anymore with a salt block not just a grain. The only way any of these experts know is if they are the one to pull the plug. Hey they have to write something to keep their name on the list of SEE I TOLD YOU SO!!

      Copperhead

    14. Stolz Vorfahren says:

      Wake me up when the shooting get started. Until then I’ll practice on weekend hog hunt to improve my head shots.

    15. Copperhead says:

      It’s going to collapse we all know it, so for what it is worth this is my last comment on all this collapse BULL SH~T!!!! Be prepared.

      Copperhead out

    16. WhiteWolf says:

      Please God, let it be so. I am so sick and tired of this entire system. It’s corrupt to the core. How can an honest man keep his head above the water financially anymore? He can’t! Evil prospers every direction you look. It’s blatantly obvious who has sold out. Let them have their wealth struck in to the dirt. Let them eat their gold and silver and choke on it.

      Disclaimer- Rough day. Corporate in town. All I hear is make more money, work less hours, have a smaller staff, the economy is great, here’s more crap you need to sell. And no raise for you.

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    18. aljamo says:

      Acid Etch… Yeah, I was out today in public and saw three people holding signs saying “will work for food, god bless you”, acting at it’s finest.

    19. Plan twice, prep once says:

      I love date setters.

      They force me to take stock, prioritize and complete preps I may have been putting off.

      Call it cognitive dissonance or just procrastination. We all do it.

      For a financial collapse there aren’t any strange or exotic preps to get. Just the basics, food, water, self defense, and shelter. I’m of the opinion it’ll be slow motion, not just one big crash, but a series of smaller ones hitting one market after another. Then the domino effect through US business, then commercial real estate. Be prepared for a long siege, it’ll be years!

      Holy crap, I just heard Greece’s sales tax just went from 13 to 23%. Those in Greece that prepped and have a full pantry are saving a fortune!

    20. Warchild Dammit! says:

      A broken clock right twice a day,sooner or later will come to complete crash,math does not lie.My dad was very big in the financial world and he and his friends said would happen,the predictions of when pretty hard/impossible.He said and I quote”A lot depends on how long the average citizen believes and lives like things are fine”,a lot is just psychological,again,in the end,no matter how folks feels raw numbers no matter how manipulated in the end tell the truth.

      • sodbuster says:

        When the herd develops some risk aversion and starts reducing stocks, it tanks. I don’t know anyone thats not in stocks except me, even 80 year old mom is 60%.

        • well yea dude, that should give you a hint why nobody you know are playing the Stock Market. I’m not being mean, I’m just trying to figure some of these people out.
          How does a fraudulent, manipulative, digital currency game going to benefit those down the road when all hell breaks loose?

          It isn’t, because it is not real. Just like holding Gold Certificates, it’s paper and it has no value. The Honor System got thrown out decades ago. There is no honor in a manipulative world. Sorry, but you and many like you are going to get robbed again, just like I did back in 9/11/01 when I lost over half of my 401k. I haven’t invested back into that hogwash since, took the penalty and withdrew what I had left in my 401k and never looked back. I learned my lesson and I save monies the old fashion way.

    21. Vet1 says:

      I guess when I’m laying down cover fire I’ll know it’s hit the fan…

      • Why would someone waste ammo for cover fire and reveal their position at the same time in a SHTF scenario? The goal is to stay alive, not commit suicide.
        At all cost, avoid confrontation and stay invisible as much as possible.
        Maybe you were having fun posting what you did, but someone may take that information as advice. If there is someone here who would rather join in on the mayhem, have at it and jump into the mosh pit. The probability of survival in a blaze of glory went down to zero.

    22. hammerhead says:

      I did some work for a mortgage banker awhile back , nice guy, i asked him (after a couple beers) ,What would happen if the banks went insolvent , would they try to call in mortgages to gain assets?
      His answer was YES , but it would be a very last ditch effort if there was no fed bailout again, he said they would be forced to do so , there have been seminars on this subject .
      FYI , this guy aint nobody , but he is high enough in the food chain to be in the know.

      • sixpack says:

        “Call in mortgages”, is that code for “BREAK CURRENT HOMEOWNER’S CONTRACTS”?

        If they have a30 year contract with me for $1000 dollars a month for a mortgage, and I pay on time and in full every month, HOW CAN THEY BREAK THAT CONTRACT AND “CALL IN” MY MORTGAGE?

        • Linda S. says:

          Can’t they sell your contract too someone else who can call it in because they have no contract with you? I’m not too savvy in economics, but seems I remember that from school. Hope it’s not so.

      • Rebel in Idaho says:

        Too many people would violently resist being displaced from their home for that to be practical. Plus in that scenario what good would it do for them to demand payment in full, which millions can’t do, or try to take a home that they couldn’t sell anyway.

    23. Satori says:

      Martin Armstrong: “Little By Little These People Are Destroying Everything That Made Society Function”

      ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-20/martin-armstrong-little-little-these-people-are-destroying-everything-made-society-f

      “Germany Replacing Bank Cards Eliminating Cash Withdrawals”

      the move to eliminate cash continues
      why???

      answer

      control
      TOTAL CONTROL

      this whole thing reminds me of one of my favorite periods of history to study

      and that is Germany in the 1930’s

      some people
      very few
      could put 2+2 together and see what was coming
      most didn’t

      they died

      normalcy bias will get you dead

      red flag
      red flag
      freaking RED FLAGS everywhere

      prepare
      if something does happen your ready
      if it doesn’t
      so much the better

      • hammerhead says:

        The whole move away from cash is a HUGE red flag , aint it?
        Some of the dum dums i have talked to about , just love the idea and dont see any problems
        What could go wrong? HAHAHAHAHA

    24. Warchild Dammit! says:

      Satori,nothing bad happens will still go shooting/use energy/use the camping gear and other tools/use bow/crossbow,still eat as I rotate stock,everything I prep with can and is used iregardless,so,really prepping no big life change beyond the mental barriers getting folks to accept things may go very wrong.

    25. I said it about a year ago, Oct 2016. Only off a year.

    26. Euragone says:

      Good.. Its time to get the Party Started!

    27. the Lone Ranger says:

      Mr. Armstrong’s forecasting is almost 95% dead on with The Shemitah which is in September.

      I urge everyone, no matter what your beliefs or belief system, to read Jonathan Cahn’s, “The Shemitah”, an inexpensive but quality paperback (especially with incredible content) that will have you absolutely astounded to what has been happening, what IS happening, and what is about to happen.

      Thank you.

      – the Lone Ranger

      • Archivist says:

        The audiobook of “The Harbinger” by Jonathan Cahn is at:
        ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ig0JvX7ck

        It is a novel, but it is full of information. I downloaded it a while back and spent several evenings listening to it. It is entertaining as well as informative.

    28. Mike Brower says:

      Seems to me everybody “corrected the 1987 crash. If they were that good the would be in the top 3 richest in the world. I call Bullshit.

    29. Anonymous says:

      Then libertarians’ work will be done for them, without anyone having to dismantle anything! The authoritarian System will have collapsed from its own weight. The “backlash” can be dealt with by individuals who can govern themselves and defend themselves from those who won’t govern themselves.

    30. Have been reading Armstrong since he was in the jailhouse. He is not saying that the anvil is going to hit us on the head Sept. 30 – Oct. 1, 2015. He is saying that the anvil begins to fall at that time. According to Armstrong the anvil hits 2032.95 which is Sat/Sun Dec. 11-12, 2032. He also predicts that the windup to 2032 is going to be very very bad and that the world as we know it now will no longer exist. The lead up to 2032 will see governments collapse, countries split apart, and the man on the street enduring much suffering as corrupt politicians never see government as the problem, it’s always the people that are the problem. Government never spends too much; it’s always the people not paying enough taxes. He also believes a total wipeout is necessary to clear the way for the new and better world to be build on the ashes of the old.

      Still not sure that Armstrong and his computer program named Socrates are right about all the above, but with the way things are going it’s becoming hard to ignore.

      • Rebel in Idaho says:

        Exactly, and besides it can be really hard to notice the slow slide to oblivion has accelerated when you’re living through it. In hindsight people might say it’s already started and that we should have noticed when Iceland, Greece, Puerto Rico, and several large American cities declared bankruptcy.

        In 100 years they will probably use more honest numbers for inflation and unemployment and say that with 10% inflation, 20% unemployment, and median wages back to levels 40 years earlier that the crash/second great depression started in 2008.

    31. I thought the shit was going to hit the fan in September. So now the “experts” are delaying it?

      • 11011110000 says:

        Bingo!

        It will continue to be delayed because the real intention is to keep the people from taking action NOW. If people think the big one is a few months away, they have a tendency to wait for the foretasted event before taking action……but it never happens.

        Rinse, cycle, repeat.

        This technique has been very effective in allowing them to squeeze (steal) every bit of value from the market.

    32. The Church – those that believe Jesus is the Son of God (John 3:16) is already preparing. We don’t need these two fellows to give us what we already know. We ARE living in the last days and whether you believe in God or not, it doesn’t matter. Just recently Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said to Israel. “We are watching Bible prophecy unfolding before our eyes”. Christians and Jews are already preparing because the signs are all around. If you are game and brave enough if you are NOT a believer, watch this video. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YLP5CZLLaG8 Jonathan Cahn has written 2 best sellers – The Harbinger and The Shemitah – to get the message out so Christians can understand Bible prophecy from a Jewish point of view. If you are a believer you will be blessed by the fact – and as the Bible teaches – that He will leave signs to prepare us for what we are about to face. BTW Jonathan Cahn is of the Jewish Tribe of Aaron – those tasked to deliver Gods Word to His people.

      • Plan twice, prep once says:

        When enough people expect something to happen, it usually does.

        It creates a social and political pressure making it self fulfilling.

        If someone takes the next two months and prepares for this potential disaster, those same preps could save your butt if there’s a big storm, tsunami, winter storm from hell, terror attack, CME, etc. I predict that none of your well thought out preps would go to waste, because poop happens!

        Weatherman predicted a 10% chance of rain today. It’s poring out there right now! Good thing I have an umbrella! Yeah, it’s just like that!

      • Plan twice, prep once says:

        When enough people expect something to happen, it usually does.

        It creates a social and political pressure making it self fulfilling.

        If someone takes the next two months and prepares for this potential disaster, those same preps could save your butt if there’s a big storm, tsunami, winter storm from hell, terror attack, CME, etc. I predict that none of your well thought out preps would go to waste, because poop happens!

        Weatherman predicted a 10% chance of rain today. It’s poring out there right now! Good thing I have an umbrella! Yeah, it’s just like that!

    33. The Prophet says:

      As a prophet it is my duty to predict. Therefore, I predict big trouble. There. Now you know. Big trouble. When? Hey, I’m just an entry level prophet. I’ve got no seniority.

    34. Mike Brower says:

      I’m calling BULLSHIT. I have never heard of these people and everybody it seems predicted every crash and they still aren’t millionaires.

     

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