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    Foreign Boots on American Soil: Russia To Share Military “Security Experts” With United States During Mass Disaster Incidents and Emergencies

    Mac Slavo
    June 29th, 2013
    SHTFplan.com
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    U.S. President Barack Obama meets with Russian President Putin

    Rumors have circulated for years about the possibility of foreign troops being deployed on U.S. soil in the event of a widespread declaration of a national emergency. For quite some time there have been anecdotal reports to support the claim that the  U.N., Russia and other nations would be used in a policing capacity should some critical event befall our nation.

    The fear should such a scenario take place has been that these soldiers would act under the banner of their own flags, ignoring the fundamental protections afforded to our citizens, leaving Americans under the jurisdiction of people who don’t speak our language or respect our fundamental rights to self defense, to be secure in our homes, and to be presumed innocent in the eyes of the law.

    Up until this point, nothing has ever been confirmed in writing, so officially no such foreign assistance has ever been agreed to. Thus, Americans had nothing to worry about.

    All of this changed last week when representatives of Presidents Barrack Obama and Vladimir Putin met in Washington D.C., and not a single US-based news source reported it.

    press release posted on The Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense and Emergencies reports that the United States and Russia will now cooperate in disaster response operations that will include the exchange of “experts” during “joint rescue operations,” a term that has been broadly defined under the new agreement.

    This includes rescuers, trainers and even military “security” teams:

    Several documents signed during joint work of Russian Emergency Ministry and FEMA

    The Russian Emergency Situations Ministry and the USA Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) are going to exchange experts during joint rescue operations in major disasters. This is provided by a protocol of the fourth meeting of the U.S.-Russia Bilateral Presidential Commission Working Group on Emergency Situations and seventeenth meeting of Joint U.S.-Russia Cooperation Committee on Emergency Situations, which took place in Washington on 25 June.

    The document provides for expert cooperation in disaster response operations and to study the latest practices.

    In addition, the parties approved of U.S.-Russian cooperation in this field in 2013-2014, which envisages exchange of experience including in monitoring and forecasting emergency situations, training of rescuers, development of mine-rescuing and provision of security at mass events.

    At the end of the meeting the parties expressed their satisfaction with the level of cooperation between the Russian Federation and the United States in the area of emergency prevention and response and agreed to develop it in order to respond efficiently to all kinds of disasters.

    Source: Emergency Command of Russia via Prepper Website

    The President of the Unites States has just authorized the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to deploy foreign troops on U.S. soil during a mass event that encompasses an any number of disaster scenarios, including but not limited to declarations of martial law.

    Should our country come under threat, something the Pentagon and US military have been simulating for years, we can now fully expect soldiers speaking broken English forcing their way through our front doors in similar fashion to what we saw in the wake of the Boston bombings.

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    1. These types of articles and videos have been cropping up all week. What, we’re going to be invaded by foreign troops with the cooperation of our own alleged government? If that’s the plan, it’s doomed to failure. Sure, plenty of pansies will lay down and beg for mercy, but plenty more real Americans will never surrender. Why is it that when tyrants have a master plan that they’re always, and I mean ALWAYS, blinded by their own hubris and arrogance?

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      • OutWest says:

        Russian premier Nikita Kruschev may have been
        prophetically right when he was banging his
        shoe on the table declaring “We will bury you” (USA).

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        • Be informed says:

          @ OutWest. Kruschev will only be right if Americans allow themselves to be fooled into thinking that the un is some ally. The un is the most worthless organization in human history. Americans will be buried if they don’t see this.

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          • John Q. Public says:

            Is an American boot on your neck any more comfortable?

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            • John Q. Public says:

              Looks like The Protocols were updated:
              http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/06/silent-weapons-for-quiet-wars-on-american-people-secret-document-found-in-auctioned-copier-2442508.html

              Speaking of The Protocols, here is Part 1 of an excellent talk by Hugh Akins, author of Synagogue Rising. You can listen online or download the mp3:
              The Protocols of Zion – A No-Forgery Declaration of War Against Christian Civilization, Part I
              http://www.isoc.ws/audiouploads/recording.mp3

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              • Barn Cat says:

                Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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                • Bad Luck says:

                  What a lame story to get stuck with for the weekend. Comments section is starting to resemble a scratch pad for the criminally insane or a kitty litter box.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  Barn Cat: How did that happen when the orig protocols were written 30+ yrs Before any NKVD existed?

                  Need More PROOF Barn Cat? Scroll Down READ several info posts of Mine about usa MSM-TV-Magazines-Newspapers-Publishers-Hollywood etc…READ Actual Names etc of WHO has Total Destructive Control of not just all forms of MSM’s and Banking…But All Levels of Political Officials of BOTH parties too!

                  Then, with All due respect, PLEASE Yank yer head Out of your zio-jewdeo-christian Posterior regions.

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                • Remark lacks academic understanding also lacks spiritual understanding! And do not be a putz, who was the NKVD and Checka…Jews…do your homework before you post stupid remarks. You need to get out of the barn. These monsters murdered millions and follow the Protocols to the T. If it walks like a duck it a fu#$%@# duck.

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                • John Q. Public says:

                  Hugh Akins talk (link above) will cure your brainwashing.

                  Even the ADL calls the Protocols a “forgery,” so the synagogue of Satan actually acknowledges that the Russian Secret Police retrieved a copy of the real document.

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                • John Q. Public says:

                  Sorry to say so, Barn Cat, but your grip on history is as weak as your biblical exegesis—so weak that you failed to recognize that the NKVD (НКВД, Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs) was an apparat of Judeo-Bolshevism. The NKVD was successor to the CheKa ((ЧК, the Jewish-controlled “Emergency Commission”) and progenitor of the equally Jewish-controlled KGB.

                  It was the Czarists, not the Judeo-Bolshevists, who obtained the “forged” Protocols—and, in case it has escaped your notice, the Protocols have unfolded before our very eyes. Quite a coincidental “forgery,” eh?

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                • Anonymous says:

                  Barn Cat get the book “Under the Sign of the Scorpion” by Juri Lina available also in a free PDF. Educate yourself. There are volumns of material on the Protocols, but only those who educate themselves and put in sweat equity can put it all together. It helps also to know the Truth, Jesus Christ. We are trying to help you.

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                • Barn Cat get the book “Under the Sign of the Scorpion” by Juri Lina available also in a free PDF. Educate yourself. There are volumns of material on the Protocols, but only those who educate themselves and put in sweat equity can put it all together. It helps also to know the Truth, Jesus Christ. We are trying to help you.

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                • KY Mom says:

                  Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops for “Upcoming” Disaster

                  “An unsettling report prepared by the Emergencies Ministry (EMERCOM) circulating in the Kremlin today on the just completed talks between Russia and the United States in Washington D.C. says that the Obama regime has requested at least 15,000 Russian troops trained in disaster relief and “crowd functions” [i.e. riot control] be PRE-POSITIONED to respond to FEMA Region III during an unspecified “upcoming” disaster.”

                  http://www.eutimes.net/2013/06/obama-requests-15000-russian-troops-for-upcoming-disaster/

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              • Anonymous says:

                Dude, the Protocols of Zion is a totally fictitious book…

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            • ArmedPartriot says:

              Depends. If I tell him he’s going to die. Who’s going to understand that better? Foreign Officers have been training on US soil for a long time. If I see them at JRTC or NTC then I have problems. Well we all have problems.

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              • muddy says:

                “Should our country come under threat, something the Pentagon and US military have been simulating for years, we can now fully expect soldiers speaking broken English forcing their way through our front doors in similar fashion to what we saw in the wake of the Boston bombings.”

                And in a similar fashion to what the American military has been doing in Iraq and Afghanistan for more than a decade. Of course, when we do it it is OK, but it is not ok for the foreigners to do it to us. Seriously?, our chickens are coming home to roost.

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                • Makati1 says:

                  The US has not had foreign troops fighting their soil since the Revolution. (Well, a few Mexicans maybe, and the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.) I think they believe that it cannot happen…lol. I also think they are going to see that it can, and before too many years. Pearl Harbor was in the days before missiles could circle the earth in minutes. Troops don’t have to land here to land here to make it a war zone of destruction.

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                • fluffybunny says:

                  “And in a similar fashion to what the American military has been doing in Iraq and Afghanistan for more than a decade. Of course, when we do it it is OK, but it is not ok for the foreigners to do it to us. Seriously?, our chickens are coming home to roost.”

                  Don’t say “our”. I didn’t approve of any of that. Did you? I, and many others, have spoken against this crap for years and everybody ignored us. Those who listened dismissed us with insults. So it’s “their” chickens.

                  As far as your sense of fair play goes, I’m sure that will be of great comfort to you when you’re being hauled away to a FEMA camp by a bunch of hell-bound monsters speaking with Russian accents. (after your family has been thoroughly raped, of course.)

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                • Leonard says:

                  Muddy, please pull your head out of your ass, and then go get a breath mint…

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                • Hell muddy your missing the point. The ones giving it to us is our own government beast that is using our military as cannon fodder to do the work of the NWO or Banksters or Zio-Nazi or Talmudic Jews. The chickens will not come home to roost they are already here roosting in Washington and in our State Capitals…take a good look at your neighbors and please reconsider your post. You need to clarify the truth. Without a clear vision you will become an enemy and not understand why.

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                • muddy says:

                  @fluffybunny
                  @Leonard
                  Deal with it, the US military has been doing this very thing to foreign military and foreign civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have been engaged in the farce called the war on terror fighting the Taliban and al qaeda because they are terrorists. And now we are their allies in Syria giving them weapons, training, and supplies paid for by the US taxpayer using money borrowed from China. What a bunch of horseshit. In case you forgot we armed some of these same people to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, only then they were Mujadeen.
                  Sense of fair play? I looked at the hunting regs today and there is no seasonal dates for shooting varmits, nor are there daily bag limits. Bring on the blue hats and various other peacekeepers I am ready to shoot and will have no problem doing so.

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                • Muddy I only take issue with you that because we have done it to others now we are going to reap the evil here at home. I disagree. 95% and the citizens of this country and of the military believed we were attacked on 9/11, 2001. They were screaming for revenge because a false Pearl Harbor was shoved down our throats by very evil and wicked men with their own diabolical agenda. Now the lies are being outed and vetted (examined and scrutinized). The world was drawn into this plot not just America. It is now up to people who are awake and angry about being used to stand up and be counted regardless of the price. It has nothing to do with revenge but rather everything to do with standing against liars and deceivers who wish to destroy America. It is only when evil men are allowed to continue and men do nothing to resist them that a nation becomes guilty before God. God gives us to opportunity to discover by shedding light on the truth,”Jesus said, “there is nothing covered (hid) that shall not be uncovered (revealed). He will help those who love truth to stand against the wall of lies erected as he sees fit. 9/11 was planned and executed with precision just as WWII and WWI and all wars are. Satan is the chief architect of it all, he is the power and prince of the air, the ruler (for now) of kingdoms, and is the spiritual wickedness that controls the high places! I believe most of us do not blame all Americans for this deception, we pray that they will wake up an resist. Deception is a triumphant murderer of men and their souls.

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              • WesternMdDan says:

                In 1999, I trained with German troops at JRTC. I was there as a Civil Affairs tech attached to the 82nd.
                I do not personally know of any other nationalities that trained there, but would not be surprised to hear it.

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              • Them Guys says:

                Barn Cat: This is NO Forgery! It IS straight From Their OWN Holyiest of Holyies Book. THIS Is what Your favorite “Self Chozen Vampires” aka SCV, Believe in, desire to do to You and All Goyim(gentiles non jews) And Have been Concocting by their Massive MSM-Banks-FED GOVNT Controls. IN THEIR OWN WORDS! No Forgery!

                The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order (One World Government) immediately preceding the “universal reign of the Talmud.” A terrifying prospect, indeed!

                Moses Maimonides:
                Advocate of Extermination

                The rabbinic teacher Moses Maimonides called the “Rambam” by the Jews, is revered in Judaism as a supreme “sage” of the highest stature.

                “Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam, after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon, “our Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon.”

                According to the introduction to the book, Maimonides’ Principles, p. 5, Maimonides “spent twelve years extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and arranging them all into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed in 1180, and was called Mishnah Torah, or “Code of the Torah.”

                Here is what Maimonides taught concerning the saving of the life of a Gentile or Christian, and even Jews who dared to deny the “divine inspiration” of the Talmud:

                “Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him.”

                Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court – or a court appointed by Jewish authority—that enforces obedience and passes judgment on Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation “not subject to our jurisdiction” (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of Jewish holy war.

                These courts are to be convened allegedly under the “Noahide Laws” (proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant with Noah). But there is nothing in the Bible to support this claim. This claim is a preposterous FRAUD – and a sign of the anti-Christ!

                Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal expert, has diabolically compared HJ Res. 104 to the “first rays of dawn” which “evidence the rising of a still unseen sun.”

                The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order (One World Government) immediately preceding the “universal reign of the Talmud.” A terrifying prospect, indeed!

                These provisions of the Talmud, the same Talmud that is the source of the Noahide laws, make very clear why the proponents of HJ Res. 104 used the subterfuge of obtaining the passage of this legislation without any debate or a recorded vote. HJ Res. 104 was fraudulently and deceitfully passed by “unanimous consent” when no one was around to consider and discuss the provisions of the Talmud. If these had been brought to the attention of the members of Congress, HJ Res. 104 would never have been passed.

                The Chabad Lubavitch falsely claims that God gave the Seven Noahide Laws at Mt. Sinai with the intention that the Children of Israel should keep them and teach them to the Gentiles. This is a deliberate lie!

                There is absolutely no support in the Bible for this fraudulent claim.

                The Source of these Seven Noahide Laws was NOT, as the Jews have claimed, directions from God to Adam – or Noah – or Moses. Their source is the Oral Traditions of the Pharisees that began in Babylon after the Israelites were captured in 586 BC.

                Over 600 years later, after the Pharisees had killed Christ and the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, these Oral Traditions were written down and became the Babylonian Talmud.(Read again, Who Killed Jesus?)

                The Exodus of the Israelites from Egypt took place in about 1445 BC. Moses died in 1405 BC. Shortly after beginning the forty year wandering in the desert, God wrote the Ten Commandments on two tablets with his own finger and they are recorded in Exodus 20: 1-17.

                The ancient nation of Israel reached its height of power and prestige during the reign of Solomon from 960-930 BC.

                After Solomon, most of the Israelite kings were corrupt or inept and the Northern ten tribes of Israel were taken captive by Assyria in 721 BC. The Southern tribes, Judah and Benjamin, were expelled to Babylon in about 586 BC, after which the Talmud oral traditions, specifically including the Seven Noahide Laws, were produced in Babylon during this period. (the SCV self chozen Vampires Invented noahide laws out of Thin Air! Get it?).

                ATTEN: Jewdeo-Christians FUNDING a “New Sanhedrin” This is Their Plans for YOU TOO! BEHEAD Christians! Cut Heads OFF(same as Koran Jihads do! Zero difference BOTH are Enemys!).

                “One additional element of greater severity is that violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by DECAPITATION.”

                The Noahide Laws will be administered by a restored Sanhedrin, the ruling body of Jews that found Jesus Christ guilty of blasphemy on the accusations of two false witnesses according to Matthew 26:60. Under the “Courts of Law” section of the Noahide Laws this is stated:(That new sanhedrin, is today a Reality in israel, and Is why Pastors like Hagee et al, are Jumping for Joy! Why are these Preachers happy for a body of jewish “priests” who desire to Behead christians? Why do so many duped christians Donate mass sums of cash to it?!)

                “A person may be convicted in a Noahide court on the testimony of single witness, but only if the witness is known to be righteous.” (And Who gets to decide it?

                BARN CAT: Here, From Their OWN Holy Books!in Their own Words! aka= NO Forgery!

                Sanhedrin 57a. A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him

                Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
                Baba Mezia 24a. If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b.) Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a gentile…”

                Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
                Sanhedrin 57a. When a Jew murders a gentile there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

                Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

                “Relying upon the Code of Maimonides and the Halacha, the Gush Emunim leader Rabbi Israel Ariel stated: “A Jew who killed a non-Jew is exempt from human judgment and has not violated the religious prohibition of murder.”(READ That AGAIN!! Jews=exempt of Murder!!)

                Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

                Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile

                More quotes from the >>>>Talmud about Jesus<<<<<<

                Gitten 57a says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.”
                Sanhedrin 43 says Jesus was executed because he practiced sorcery: “It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry…He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone.”

                GENOCIDE: OK for Jews to Do it!

                Genocide Advocated by the Talmud

                Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai” Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).(especially White ones, right "rabbi"?)

                This Talmudic passage has been concealed in some translations.(why conceal if They got Nuthin ta hide?)

                The Jewish Encyclopedia states, "…in the various versions the reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the Soncino version: “the best of the heathens” (Monor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b). But “heathen” is translated as “Gentile” (non-Jews) by the Jews.

                IMHO: There Is NO major Difference what they Believe in and Do to "others" when Compared to, say, the Koran!

                Except that perhaps Arab muslims may be LESS Dangerous to Goyim gentiles, than such Blood Thirsty control freek jews and Their Holy-Talumd. SCV aka self-chozen-Vampires. Fits well, Indeed!

                I hope You can get it barn cat, that a few of us here are trying to Help awaken You to Truths, that you obviously were not told of by any Preachermen you may have listend to. I Truly Do wish for this post and my other post related to it here awaken you. As well as Any/All Other folks who may Yet be Asleep. A Good Watchman Warns of Barbarians aproaching. I feel I have done such. Hope you do too.

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                • Them Guys: Good post keep em coming dude. I had a friend who was Outlaw and they tried to kill him when he became a Christian. They shot at him point blank several times and nothing touched him. Yea Jesus!

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            • Jack says:

              I never thought I would see the day the Japanese ever would set foot on our land ready for battle in full war dress and equipment. I Imagine my Father and all his Buddies must have rolled over in their graves. Was not Guam available why the West Coast. It was done under the guise of joint war games when was war a game. Brother In Law was a Naval Doctor landed with the troops on Iwo Jima.
              Whar the Japanese did to our men when the capture one is unspeakable. Brother In Law also was parachuted into Guam, we had lost most of our Doctors and Medics. 620 Medics were lost on Iwo alone. That was the the most death dealing battle ever in the Marine Corps long history. 17,000 dead or badly wounded in 22 days 5 more days of clean up as they call it. I pay tribute to all who have served this nation and only under the current administration would this have been allowed.

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          • gruntaur says:

            The UN is a reboot of the “league of nations” another epic fail on widescale proportions.

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          • jmac37 says:

            “Americans will be buried if they don’t see [that the U.N. is not our ally, and is a worthless organization].”

            While I appreciate the sentiment, I must take (partial) exception. If the U.N. were only “worthless,” there would be nothing to worry about. But they’re far more than worthless; they’re downright dangerous.

            Secondly, I would assert that Americans “will be buried” if they were to elect a Marxist as president. But that could NEVER happen, right? Oh, wait… too late…

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        • A year or so ago, a Russian retired general stated that the US would be carved up and given to different nations to administer. He noted that Russia would have a part of this nation.
          If an event occurred and our government called in Russian troops “for help”, that could open to door for just such a situation.
          If you want a one world government, your are going to have to do something to break the US. They are working on us financially, and militarily ( a decade of war) and psychologically ( no jobs). And the media attacks us with moral and spiritual filth and feeds that and dependency to our kids. Ask a high school student what they think about the US being absorbed into the OWG and most will tell you it’s not big deal. Because that is what they are being taught in OUR schools.
          So this makes sense as the next step if they want to take the US down and apart.

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          • Rodster says:

            IIRC that was said in the late 90′s. I do agree that TPTB are pushing for a NWO and OWG. ;)

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          • john.s says:

            ^you got it right..

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          • How I feel says:

            150 million armed Americans with no more than shot guns. The drones could not keep up.

            The second amendment was about well placed cross hairs.

            Need I say more?

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            • Gonetoolong says:

              That is right. Some 600ish mother fuckers are corrupting this country up in DC. That is no problem if enough citizens finally have enough of this shit. Take them out anywhere they are visible. Cross hairs

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            • Gonetoolong says:

              That is right. Some 600ish mother fuckers are corrupting this country up in DC. That is no problem if enough citizens finally have enough of this shit. Take them out anywhere they are visible. Cross hairs

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            • Archangel says:

              Correction….by most ATF Estimates….300 million guns in the hands of 310 million citizens…that is almost one gun for each Man woman and child. Since Sandy hook, a gun was sold in the months of December 2012 thru March of 2013 every 1.5 seconds.

              The key now is getting a TON of ammo into the hands of every gun owner…and MOST IMPORTANTLY for the people to wake up and realize this shit is being staged…they are Reichstag events taking place to take away our liberties. Wouldn’t be surprised if Boston Bombing was a complete CIA sponsored psy-ops

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            • BackSpace says:

              “Yard Farming” from those drones

              –> hide to fight another day <—-

              concealed heat signature.

              BS

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              • @ Makati1…I hate to tell you this, but not everyone is a drug user in this country, so not everyone is going to surrender or have nervous breakdowns or heart attacks! Jeez

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                • lonelonmum says:

                  The US isn’t labelled prozac nation for nothing. Just an observation. (Before anyone gets upset I honestly feel that in the UK we must have superior brainwashing agents as we don’t even have the excuse of being doped to the hilt to explain our zombification! Our population rolled over long ago ).

                  Foreign scientific, medical & engineering experts can in certain humanitarian situations be a GOOD thing. In disasters like Fukishima or Chernobyl (My son’s dad is from a town just 70 miles due south of that one!)it really, really doesn’t matter WHO helps as the whole of humanity is at risk. I’m sure the same is true of some types of natural disasters/pandemics.

                  Where I have a MASSIVE problem is with SECURITY. That’s a sovereign duty (not just a right)Of every nation that wishes to remain free. It extends to more than just troop movement though as I haven’t forgotten that it was the FOREIGN UN aid clinic that was found to be the SOURCE of the cholera epidemic in Haiti after that horrific earthquake. In other words if the natives had controlled their own security the overall death toll from that disaster would have been much lower.

                  “Beware Greeks bearing gifts” I think was the phrase our Grandmas included in the egg sucking tutorials.

                  The concept of national sovereignty is in conflict with the corporate global plantation. It is a barrier that must be removed if the elites are to achieve their goals.

                  Hackers are going to be the new heros of the next war as they scramble the drone tech. Likewise herbalists and sanitation engineers will be our main defence against the bio-weapons. Ordinary gun owners will be the equivalent of those sent to the trenches in WW1, they went over the top knowing it was their last act on this earth in huge numbers.

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                • Night breaker says:

                  The act of watching your family being killed in front of you will breed some very severe repercussions to the perpetrators. The occupiers will get something they could not possibily image.
                  As far as being an arm chair military type , I payed my dues and have made my bones and I live with this every day.
                  As it says in the Warrior’s credo ” I serve in defense of my country and I am prepared to give my life in its defense”
                  Makati1 a lot of us take this dead seriously, once this rubicon is crossed with foreign troops occuping our soil they will be delivered HELL on our terms , sure some of us may die but I think a heck of a lot of them will go to meet there ancestors.
                  I would expect no less from a free people who respect and appreciate LIBERTY.

                  Semper Fi 8541
                  Force Recon , 2 Marine Division 1978-1993
                  OU rah!

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                • Slick One says:

                  Actually I figure we prepper Americans will be causing others to have heart attacks and nervous break downs.

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                • Makati1 says:

                  Really? How many of your family are on prescription drugs? Drink alcohol? Or support the local pusher? More than you think or even know about. Most people do not go around talking about the meds on their nightstand. Or their social habits.

                  Someone buys those $70 billion in illegal drugs are sold in the US EVERY YEAR. Add to that the consumption of 40% of the World’s prescription drugs EVERY YEAR, and you cannot tell me most Americans are not users. We won’t even get into the alcohol sold. If you think you are surrounded by a group of unusually healthy, rational, temperate, and stable people, you better think again. You are not…

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                • Makati….actually no one in my family is on prescription drugs and no one supporting the local pusher and I don’t drink alcohol and no meds on my nightstand…usually I don’t like to even take tylenol’s for headaches. I think the people in my family are rational and fairly healthy, but obviously there are people who are not and yes, they will be a problem to deal with.
                  Your post’s seem to have a tendency to promote fear in people and I rebel against that, as I won’t live or die in fear. I’ll do what I have to do to protect my family and if my destiny is to die doing so, then so be it. No one lives forever….and I’d rather die on my feet protecting those I love, than on my knees.
                  After reading your posts, you seem to believe that everyone should just give up…ie”"Don’t you think they will be armed even better than you are? They can stand off and just gas you. Or use one of the sonic weapons that can kill…” That is an extremely fatalistic viewpoint….what’s your point in being here…to promote fear??? So, again I say “BS”!

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              • and will you greet these troops ..on your knees…as they enslave you and your loved ones….remember NO ONE is getting off this piece of rock ALIVE….some leave sooner then others but ALL leave…..

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              • Beowulf says:

                @ makati1 I see you were not in the nam. Little guys in black pajamas and sandals made from rubber tires made us bleed. Now it looks like our turn is coming.

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                • Makati1 says:

                  Sorry, I do not live in the US. I left over 5 years ago. I now live a few hundred miles from Vietnam and plan to visit there someday soon.

                  My family has been in North America since 1734 and fought in all of the wars since. That is about as American you can get and not be a native.

                  As for Nam, only the stupid volunteered to go there, I was almost drafted but chose to defend my neighbors, if necessary, not fight in some political farce. I spent 11 years in the national Guard as an officer instead. Rescued people during hurricanes, etc.

                  But, yes, it IS coming to America’s shore this time.

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              • You may be right, we may not stand a chance, but that doesn’t mean lay down and take it, most that fought and died in the Revolutionary War had no military training, but they didn’t give up, so STFU

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            • Rebelwithaclause says:

              We the ones who are awake, have to get our families, friends, and neighbors seeing the truth.
              Foreign troops should not be on our soil, EVER.
              That is a disgrace & dishonor to our military & vets (makes me want to vomit)
              Why bother paying the bills, except for power, stock up on food, water & ammo.

              There is a picture of an American flag merging with a Russian flag. FUCK THAT, another slap
              In our face.

              People better get their head out of their asses, QUICK. FAST, & in A HURRY. This problem
              Will not be solved through protest or the ballot box (we know that is fixed) the time has come for us to defend our REPUBLIC. All it takes for evil men to take over is for good men to do nothing.

              This big government shit, there should be two from every state period, end of story. Their pay should be no different then ours.

              We owe our kids and grandkids the same freedoms we had, and unfortunately I think things are going to get far worse before they get better.

              God bless all of you and you families. God bless AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL. Long live the republic.

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          • Anonymous says:

            “If an event occurred and our government called in Russian troops “for help”

            Target practice for us.

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          • knobster says:

            Actually, if you ask a high school student that question they will give you a blank stare, then go back to their ipad, iphone, and walk away. 95% of the population is clueless. Rome is burning.

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            • Be ready to clue them in soon…they can’t stay ignorant forever. This generation is about to get an education! For many of them it will be too late though.

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              • Them Guys says:

                Clue them in with some of This info.

                CONCLUSION

                The Noahide Laws have nothing to do with Noah, or Adam or God. In about 1600 B.C. God directed Noah to build an ark and save his family and the animal population of the world from the flood which destroyed life on the surface of the earth.

                Over one thousand years later, in 586 BC, during the Babylonian captivity, diabolical laws were developed by the Pharisees and Jewish Rabbis who sought to title these laws with a name that would give them legitimacy.

                The purpose of the Jews in developing the Noahide Laws is to rule over all of the non-Jews in the world without having to suffer a mass conversion of these people to Judaism which they fear would dilute the cultural cohesion of the Jewish population.

                The Rabbis who produced the Talmud and the Noahide Laws claim that the Noahide Laws are the universal way of reaching God even though they privately state the Noahide Laws are only for the “Gentiles.” Behind this false claim is the true belief of the Rabbis that it is the means whereby the Rabbis are seen as God and are to be worshiped as God by the “Gentiles.”

                The Noahide Laws are to become the national, though undeclared, religion of America. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits Congress from passing a law which establishes a religion for the United States of America. If another 9-11 type “terrorist” incident takes place, and Martial Law is declared, it is likely that the claim would be made that since the Noahide Laws have been recognized by Congress as the “basis of our civilization” and that according to the third Noahide Law, anyone who worships Jesus Christ violates this law, he or she may be characterized as a terrorist. Then the Talmudic penalty for violating any of the Noahide Laws, namely decapitation, would be enforced.

                No American should underestimate the ferocity of the commitment of the Zionist Jews to control the entire political system of the world through the One World Government now being created, and in so doing administer “Justice” as they define it.

                The main goal of the Zionist Jews and their New World Order is exactly the same as it was when Jesus was on earth – to exterminate Christ – and His followers! Nothing has changed.

                I Posted 3-More similar info posts on this Scroll Way dowm below this post Look for This US Reps Name as its His website info.

                NOW THE GOVERNMENT CAN LEGALLY KILL CHRISTIANS

                Bill Dannemeyer
                U.S. Congressman, 1979-1992

                Your U.S. government can now legally kill Christians for the “crime” of worshipping Jesus Christ! A diabolic deception has been perpetrated on the American people by their OWN leaders, Senators and Congressmen, who have sold their soul to the devil. On March 5, 1991, in the House of Representatives, and March 7, 1991, in the U.S. Senate, without any knowledge of, or input by, the people of the United States, U.S. Senators and Congressmen passed a law that is so outrageous – and frankly unconstitutional – that it forces the American people to be bound by a set of monstrous rules, called the Noahide Laws, rules that make the belief in Jesus Christ a crime punishable by decapitation by guillotine! On March 20, 1991, President George H.W. Bush, a supposed Christian, signed the bill into law.

                Before you respond, “NO, that cannot be – not in our free country!” let me explain.*** SEE My 3 Other related Posts Below*** website address to actual us reps info page etc.(Twice I tried to post a link and final post info and it was rejected by server, This Link is also for my 3 related posts below near bottom of replies)

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        • Anonymous says:

          Yeah, who needs you! LOL! The whole world has long forgotten what America is!

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      • Be informed says:

        The second that un troops come to the U.S. to act like police, the country has been invaded. I don’t care what country these un troops would be from, they are the enemy. The job of police of the U.S. rests in U.S. hands ALONE. Foreign troops means invasion. You start to see those blue hats from the un, it is time to treat them the same as you would troops in a Red Dawn movie. Act like a wolverine and NEVER let the un, the enemy take you into their death camps. I am not saying that trusting American police is the best idea either, but a foreigner telling you what to do in your own country, that is an invader and needs to be treated as such.

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        • OutWest says:

          Be informed

          Maybe We The People are now supposed to feel a great
          relief if the Russians don’t actually intervene and
          US citizens only have to contend with our impending
          slaughter by the hands of our own military.

          Our epitaph will surely read, “The Late Great USA”

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          • Stay Frosty says:

            OutWest

            I pray to God that we would not have to deal with any domestic threats. But after the actions of the National Guard in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, troops breaking into homes after the Boston Marathon bombing, etc, it would be foolish of me to think otherwise. I would have no qualms about eradicating an UN or Russian soldier however.

            Stay frosty my friends

            Romans 13:4 KJV

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        • Horse'sass says:

          I guess we would then get a little taste of what we have been dishing out to other countries for years a la Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan baseball bat to the face style, and countless others in a more clandestine manner.

          Agreeing with you. I wonder if such an event were to ahppen, then the people might suddenly realize it’s not alright to go invade other countries unless they in turn have made a direct frontal assault on us in our own land.

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          • lower40 says:

            ive always said that them people over there arent doing anything that we wouldnt be doing if any country tried to ocupy us ,rememember the saying “we should bomb them into the stone age ” well thats what you would have to do to america to ocupy it ,but you know ,after i put that in print im not sure thats true ,with the dumbed down society we live in they would probaly welcome them in and invite them over to screw there sister

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          • sheptical citizen says:

            Im not the least bit surprised. I knew that this was oming. The Loss of middle class jobs and destroying the productivity was on purpose. Its al part of the UN NWO agenda. Personally I was against viet nam and all those other UN sancioned invasions. The UN is just a mouthpiece for the NWO. We need to get our mindset to the place where we never give up our weapons. If That means you die fighting so be it. How we let 535 elected treasonist in Washington DC get away with it is appaling. Those folks need to be in constnt fear that they will lose everything. Maybe us arm chair military types wont last a minute against real troops? Thats what King george thought. Those real troops Like the russians lost in afganistan. And the So called real USA & UN troops are losing in afganistan also. Us so called armchair warriors need first to committ terrorist acts upon our elected officials burn their homes make their familys flee in terrior. catch them and tar & feather them. As some Indian was credited with stating Today is a good day to die!!!

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          • Cameraman says:

            Horse and Ass. we the people Stand behind our Troops, you can stand in front of them! We did not choose these WARS and the last two Administrations are Guilty as Hell, we support our fighting Men and Women Nonetheless, they have been duped as well as the General Population, We want our troops HOME, we do not hate Other Countries, these Wars are made by Men and Women, that wish to Harm this Great Republic…
            I get mad as Hell when people Blame the US on these Phoney Wars…The People do not support this Rotten Government!

            If they send UN troops or Ruskies against us, we will do what it takes to Beat them. That”s what REAL Americans Do!

            Semper Fi

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            • Karol424 says:

              WE The People had no say what ever in these wars. They were decided on by DC. And yes, we stand behind our military, they are still We The People, not a newly created person. I believe without fear, 90 to 95% of our troops will not turn their weapons on American citizens. There are some that will, foreign troops are another matter. We are not their families, however, that remains to be seen also. Obama and DC do not trust our military, with good reason. They have been spying on them more than the public. I am sure no conversation in barracks, showers, ball games, dinning halls, etc., took place between our troops that was not recorded. Since the NSA scandal, we know these cowardly governments and so-called elite have listened to as much of the world as they could. Therefore, they know what and how our military is thinking. I am not living in a dream world, giving everyone benefit of the doubt. But we Americans are exceptional people, the world knows this as fact. I believe we will have a revolt, we will not lay down quietly, history has taught us what the Obama’s, politicians and greedy people will do to those of us considered as 2nd class to them, actually less than servants even. America is still over 70% Christian, meaning we have faith in our Almighty God, Creator of heaven and earth and all that is in them. HE said, there is no sin or sinful plans that will not be uncovered. Look around us, everyday another sinful plan being used against us is coming out in the open. This is not happening by chance. But you can believe what you will. More and More Americans are waking up everyday, Snowden is an example. There are many whistle blowers out there wanting to come forward, but they have a problem finding a source in DC that can be trusted. True fact is that being “forewarned is being forearmed”. Number one fact, America has a vipers nest that needs to be cleaned out and we are forearmed, we know exactly where that nest is and who the vipers are. We are not talking about invading another country, we are talking about preserving our country and our very lives. Truest fact ever, our Constitution states our GOD given right for We The People to protect ourselves, it is for sure doom and gloom talk is not helping anything, but depressing everyone.

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        • That’s probably how all the people anywhere “over there” feel when the USA invades and occupies their land…….just sayin

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        • Mark says:

          Exactly, BI!

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        • BI,
          Amen.

          But first, has anybody verified this through US Gov sources? This sounds like Katrina on acid(LSD!)…

          If it happens, at that point there will be no more discussion, no more debate, my government has then become a traitor to the constitution and the citizenry. My Oath will then go into force and effect and it will be Open Season on ALL those in support of it.

          Hopefully, they will wear those pretty blue helmets, they make nice targets…
          I want one… or several, preferably an officers.

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        • CLess says:

          I think its time to learn russian… speak,read & write!

          C

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          • Archangel says:

            Learn Russian? Are you Effing Kidding Me???? I think it’s time to practice shooting. Just Remember…an AK 47 is good out to about 200yrds. Go Buy a great Sniper rifle in 308 Caliber. Take em out at 600 yrds before they even become a threat.

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            • CLess says:

              @Arch

              Yeh, learn russian and even chinese or arabic! If I can pick up their radio frequencies then maybe I’ll have a heads up. Maybe I’ll be in my hidey hole and overhear them talking. I will know what they are saying, you won’t.

              I’m not worried about the accuracy of my shooting skills, so theres an eff for you.

              My rifles will only be used on the perimeter of town. Unless I know “for sure” my neighbors are bugged out or already dead. Rapid fire is never accurate. Yes my rounds will penetrate my neighbors home. will yours…. I have other choices for that scenario.

              600 yards, is the length & width of the whole town. No clear shot. Not everyone has a ranch or farm or open space to even see 600 yards.

              “Just Remember” I never asked for you opinion on what guns I should “Go Buy”. I already have what I want or need.

              C

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            • Makati1 says:

              Don’t you think they will be armed even better than you are? They can stand off and just gas you. Or use one of the sonic weapons that can kill from a distance. So many weapons, so few choices.

              But then, you have probably never lived in a country under siege by US troops and weapons. I live in one now and they still remember.

              But, I think that it will not happen that way. It will happen slowly and one day you will wake up an actually feel the collar around your neck and the time for revolt will be past.

              If you shoot at government sanctioned troops, you are as good as dead. A drone can stand off beyond your gun range and fire one missile. There are thousands deployed around the world that can be brought home in less than a day.

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          • Sigi says:

            That’s always a good idea.

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            • Gregory8 says:

              Are you kidding me! Yeah, I read John Wesley, Rawles book “Patriots” too. It’s a great fantasy/prepping book. But it is fantasy. First: Most military personnel are not frontline combat troops, they’re support personnel. Second: It would take months of airlift and sealift to get all the troops and equipment necessary just to occupy many of the major cities in America. Third: There aren’t enough combat troops in the world to take over the 5th largest in both size and population country (USA). We are number one in firearm ownership. I spent over 22 years in the military including airlift and Intell and I call Bullsh*t on this one. Anyone believing that this could somehow lead to a take over of our entire country has either never been in the military or only been a low ranking one-two termer with very limited knowledge and experience. Logistical reality trumps unsupported paranoid fantasies because facts are want counts, not beliefs or fears. So unless you were at least an O-4 with some HQ experience, all thumbs down are from uninformed idiots, because only an idiot would argue against facts.

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              • Night breaker says:

                What if our own PTB let them in and provide their logistics when our own refuse to follow illegal orders , remember we airlifted most of the troops in during gulf war 2 . The equipment was propositioned most of the base elements where in place in 2 months, 4 months later the force was deployed in full. What to stop them from using our own ordinance against us?
                Nothing suprised me anymore.

                Semper Fi 8541

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              • Makati1 says:

                Greg, it is unlikely you will see foreign troops on the streets. This is the tech age. EVERYTHING you need is under their control. EVERYTHING.

                Shut down the internet in the US. Panic.
                Shut down all banks and ATMs. Panic.
                Shut down all pharmacies. Panic and deaths by the millions in less than a week.
                Close the borders and ground all planes in the US. Panic.
                Shut down the electrical grid. Panic.
                Close all fuel outlets. Panic.

                Need I go on with the list? The corporations running our government have total control of all of life’s necessities.
                Yes, you can have supplies for even a year or more, but your life will be hell and then the supplies run out and…

                No one knows how this story will end, but it will NOT be a Disney “happy ever after” one. It will be more like Dante’s circles of Hell.

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              • Canadian Vet says:

                Which is why I figure that the only few zones of control would be in a few major cities, where the “important” people are. Even with tens of thousands of troops, what was “controlled” in Afghanistan, even within, say, Kandahar Province?

                There’s a reason Hamid Karzai was nicknamed “the Mayor of Kabul”.

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              • What rank in the military can get away with more stupidity or other things that other higher ranks would be crucified for ?
                The Private, that’s who.
                The Privates ARE the backbone of the Army.
                The Privates Hear more, See more, do more than any other rank.
                Never Ever underestimate a Private. Some Privates have more knowledge of things going on than the compartmentalized higher ups.
                Some serve not for rank, glory, honor, medals, money, ect,ect
                Some serve because they feel that it is their duty, to their country and to their God.

                God Bless all Privates. Many don’t realize it is the most important rank. If there were no Privates nothing would get done. And you know them pencil pushing RIMPS who send others to die would not go into harms way. They feel that they are to privileged / smart for that.

                Never talk down a Private.
                He might just sneak up behind you one night and kick your ass. And Being a Private he would get minimal punishment if he is caught…

                What if the equipment and logistics are already in place smart guy ?

                ” low ranking one-two termer with very limited knowledge and experience ”
                Please.

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                • Canadian Vet says:

                  I’ve been in 13 years and got to a rank that, in term of equivalences is somewhere between E-5 and E-6. And I can’t disagree with either your or Greg there.

                  Logistics are everything. No one can deny that. I believe it was Napoleon who said that amateurs talked about tactics, experts about logistics. Basically, armies march on their stomachs. 15000 troops with basic gear, that is easy to airlift. A few hundred chalks and you ca. Have that over in a few months. But vehicles, rations, ammunition, accommodations, fuel, etc, that would take longer and most likely some serious sealift. Which, also, could be a more economical way to move these 15000 troops and get them to land at the same time as their gear, supplies and vehicles and cut the set-up time at the sharp end by a lot, with most of the work done at the back end. But it would still take weeks of prep and work-up, plus anywhere from a week to a month to transit depending on the start and stop points.

                  But it is true that the privates, or here in Canada the corporals, can be invisible. It is the working rank, they’re everywhere. Maybe the officers are having a big meeting, but its a corporal who is going to drive them around before and after, listening to them talking away on their Blackberry. It is a corporal who’ll be doing setup and tear-down, or stand at the door. It is a corporal in the operations cell who types up the emails and moves the ops and support requests, and the list goes on.

                  But as for propositioned gear, I’m fairly certain that Russian vehicles would stand out in American lines and would raise too many eyebrows. Tents and crap, maybe even small arms, in sea cans, that’s another story though, so long as they sit where it would make sense to have a bunch of those laying around.

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                • Grippentrog says:

                  People with little to lose such as privates have little to lose for a reason. Thank god for minions I guess.

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        • Archangel says:

          In the end, American Police will be on the side of the people. These people are hardworking individuals with families and have just been brainwashed and conditioned by the job to become assholes at times. But do you blame them? They have to put up with a lot of shit and their lives are constantly being threatene by the maggot gangbangers today who have no respect for life. I know quite a few cops, and aside from a few bad apples, I am certain that the vast majority will side with the people…in fact most want the people to retain their second amendment, because they understand that this helps THEM.

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          • Barn Cat says:

            Why do you think the federal government is keeping local police departments from getting ammo? They consider the police to be the enemy.

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          • Frank Johnson says:

            I get kind of tired of hearing about how the poor police walking a tightrope between life and death daily. The fact is, the job of policeman doesn’t even make the list of the top ten most dangerous jobs in America.

            According to U.S. News & world Report, the jobs with the highest fatality rates are:

            1. Fishers and Related Fishing Workers
            2. Logging Workers
            3. Aircraft Pilots and Flight Engineers
            4. Refuse and Recyclable Material Collectors
            5. Roofers
            6. Structural Iron and Steel Workers
            7. Farmers, Ranchers, and Other Agricultural Managers
            8. Driver/Sales Workers and Truck Drivers
            9. Electrical Power Line Installers
            10. Taxi Drivers and Chauffeurs

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            • durango kidd says:

              You might want to add “Hotshot” to that list. 19 died fighting a forest fire southwest of Prescott Arizona yesterday.

              I saw them earlier in the week at a fast food restaurant after they had come off the line, tired, hungry, thirsty, and covered in soot.

              It seems that GS-3′s start at $16 per hour. Not enough if it takes your life. Lat thing I said to them as I was walking out the door was:

              “Be safe guys!” God bless them.

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        • Anonymous says:

          Your damn right, shot them on sight,trackem down,alot of them have been infiltraiting already to gather info on cops,FBI,NSA, SPECIAL FORCES and their family members. NWO. Is a sick minded de-population plan to just kill, Rape American women,and girls. Look all the,BOHEMIAN GROVE, attendees are into Satanic, pagan idol worship and have homosexual orgies,most likely rape little boys…do you think they care if a paid off foreign merc, U.N. troop, rapes your daughter with 5, other men waiting their turn???? Or maybe your wife while you are made to watch….lets.start taking down all their monuments,all across America…

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        • NotPayingTaxes says:

          “A foreigner telling you what to do in your own country”…

          Sounds like something the USSA has been doing worldwide since WWII

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          • Makati1 says:

            NotPaying… You are correct! EVERY war since WW2 has been US instigated. Everyone. We have troops fighting in so many countries that I lost count at 12. We have butted into just about every 3rd world country in one way or another and usually by force of arms. Often turning a functioning democratic government into a dictatorship because it is easier to buy off one person than a parliament or congress. That is what is happening in the USSA today. The corporation have bought off the government and it is being turned into a dictatorship.

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        • roger says:

          and the poop-butts in D.C. need to be dealt justice at the end of a rope.

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        • Y'all Beware! says:

          At the ready.

          Y’all Beware! Pull The Trigger!(PTT)

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      • durango kidd says:

        “Foreign Troops” will be “private contractors”. Even Russia has recognized the value of mercenaries and Putin stated over a year ago the need for 50,000 private contractors employed by Russia.

        These private contractors will be used to implement the NWO and dissolve the US Constitution; including OUR Bill of Rights.

        Get active. Be active. Let your Barnhardt out or America is toast! Engage. :-)

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          • durango kidd says:

            Your Mama: My vote may validate my own destruction but your failure to vote ENSURES yours! Engage! :-)

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            • yourmotherwaswrong says:

              @durango kidd

              My “No” vote “may validate my own destruction,” but at least I’LL GO OUT ON MY FEET, AND NOT ON MY KNEES!!!

              Unlike you.

              Keep on Voting.

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            • DK,
              Nobody can convince the loud mouthed know it all, that with his non-vote, he HAS Voted by forfeit.

              You can’t tell a young’un anything…

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              • yental says:

                DK and Piper Michael with ALL DUE RESPECT…OUR future hasn’t existed via the “ballot box” for a very long time now.

                The very “system” that encourages the sheeple to pick one, from two choices that are now PROVEN to be “the same” with respect to policy and continued erosion of liberty…is the greatest illusion still embraced by the sheeple.

                The “victor” is selected, far in advance of the “illusionary election”. The OBAMA-NATION is the proof. EVERY policy designed to decimate OUR liberty and freedom under G. W. Shrub has been accelerated under “Change we can’t believe in”.

                I’m no “youngster”, but I do pay attention to FACTS. And all-of-the-facts support my position, IMHO! WE are NOT going to VOTE OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.

                TWO PARTIES IS THE ILLUSION! One SELECTION is the REALITY.

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                • John Green says:

                  I totally agree that our two party system has been a choice of the lesser of two evils for awhile, but what has been revealed recently has shown everyone who is awake how bad it has gotten. Hopefully it has even brought some out of their stupor. I don’t have the answer but I can not keep quiet and I urge everyone to start shouting from the rooftops. Perhaps if enough people can pull their heads out of their arse this gutting of the constitution can be stopped. I’m not very optimistic, but perhaps.

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                • to yental

                  I assume you consider elections rigged? (probly fact)

                  But lets say for the sake of argument (its academic at this point as I agree its too late…) if we had started voting for other than the “2 parties” and not bought into the lie that a 3rd or 4th cannot win (can if people vote that way…)mabe this could have been turned around along time ago?

                  Look its a personal choice not to vote but to me if you choose not to doesn’t it decrease your right to whine about the out come?

                  Just sayin’;)

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                • Lost In The C.R.C says:

                  I must have sausage fingers, I meant thumbs up, and android touchscreen is “OH O.K. THUMBS DOWN!” Tech sucks….

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                • durango kidd says:

                  yental: Patriots must infiltrate the Tea Party Republicans and change that party from the inside until a viable Patriot Party emerges with the initial funding that will give Americans a real choice if they get involved.

                  That funding is two to five years away, but not so far away as to be ineffective. In the meantime We must get involved locally and join with others who are fighting the good fight.

                  Freedom must be fought for every day. Victory always belongs to those who refuse to quit. WE have every advantage if WE will organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, vote, and lend OUR voice to those who won’t quit.

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                • Yental,
                  With all due respect, Hitler was voted in by the people, and Obama was reelected by those on our side(by the millions at last count) who did not show up… Obama won by forfeit, the numbers don’t lie.

                  Having worked with the election board, I assure you, the fiction that the PTB control the outcome of elections is a fantasy. What they do control is the nominees… and the rules of the party domination. This is still America, until it isn’t.

                  We agree, that all the establishment candidates are scum working for scum, so why do we allow them to take over the primaries? Why do we allow them to have control? Because most of US are brain washed and in bed with them and their propaganda… wither the welfare or the warfare paradigms.

                  Obama is a communist Kenyan and a usurper, but despite evidence of this, what do we do? We cave, every time. I have no illusions that Romney would have not been an establishment man, but, at least he would have been an American, and I would not have to look at that bastard Kenyan’s face anymore. I don’t think things would have gotten any better(Romney Care? Assault weapon bans in MA?), but, at least I would then know for sure, that we have been betrayed by BOTH parties. And the debt would be a righteous blood debt, as the republican party would then cease to exist and many millions of the sheep could then be awakened and see the light.

                  We not only bought four more foul smelling years for the current crop of communists, we bought four more years of hope for the legions of rino hypnotized fools.

                  Do you understand now?

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                • Mad Trapper says:

                  Agreed, Mr. Yental

                  If Mac’s scenario is legit (very likely), then it all boils down to countless small/individual battle teams of dedicated/committed American resisters…albeit, w/ skill-sets to match the indigenous commercial/govt sanctioned and/or foreign mercs.

                  Realistically, at this stage, there “IS” no other way out (IMHO)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therefore…..

                  …think pro-active/be aggressive/become expensive to the enemy & always remain on the offensive…once the great game begins.

                  Diplomacy & political activism are effectively passe’ at the moment….the enemy has (yet again) won this round on points.
                  Time & circumstances/events will tell/inform us when it is not a “DRILL”.

                  ….until then, its heads-up, eyes open…we’re all on watch/duty.

                  Remember, its GOD, then family(blood), then the Constitution/country…& screw the government!!!!

                  …after that, everything else becomes a gimme…

                  ——–SALUTE——–

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                • yental says:

                  Piper, you went through great pains to re-state what I have already said while still coming to a different conclusion.

                  The “two choices” are predetermined by the PTB. And both represent the exact same result. Throw in the “electronic ballot sham”, and what difference does ANYONE’S vote make.

                  Obama is proven to be illegitimate to even hold the office…and yet, THERE HE is. That fact has NOTHING to do with “non-voters”. The system is totally corrupt on every conceivable level. TPTB control this game as it exist.

                  When and if, this democratic Republic is re-established, VOTING may be a worth-while investment of time again. We will apparently be designated to “agree to disagree”.

                  The “problem” is…I do “get it”. From the absolute TOP DOWN, the current “system” must be demolished.

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                • Facebook Page says:

                  Use the same email.

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                • BigB says:

                  Yes European America, I mean yourmotherwaswrong. Stick with one name and you won’t have that problem. I guess living out in the desert on BLM land while on social security disability while you ride your dirt bike qualifies as some one whose words we should live by and that you should be trusted to not have your posts scrutinized prior to being published. You preach and no one listens. Maybe time to change your name again but the words will always be the same.

                  BigB

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                • @yomamma,
                  How does one get to 50, and still think he is able to get his point across by yelling, screaming and cussing at people he is trying to have reasoned debate with?

                  If you are being held in moderation, without hyperlinks in your posts, then I would suggest you keep you information consistent. You IP and your info show you to be a shape shifter…

                  Otherwise, if you wish to discuss anything with me, quit yelling, screaming and telling me you know everything, and I know nothing. That will get you ignored, and red thumbed.

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                • Facebook Page says:

                  Make a fake email and use it every time. Problem will be solved.

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              • roger says:

                look around and see what voting has reaped for us. what a monumental waste of fucking time voting is. all the goddamned mouth breathing vermin in D.C. got there by votes. right. it’s all rigged boys and girls, heads they win tails you lose.

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            • Makati1 says:

              If you really think your vote makes any difference, you have already lost. Voting is just a show for the dummies. The Prez is picked long before you even know who is running. Then they are packaged and sold like any other piece of merchandise that they want you to buy. You have been conditioned all of your life to buy what they want to sell.

              ‘Package O’ was presented against a package that was ‘Brand B’ right from the beginning. By now, Madison Avenue could sell acupuncture to a hemophiliac. But, they have to make it seem like YOU made the choice. Joke’s on you. It is too late. The Horse is long gone. Now you get to see what they have planned or you. Nothing you can do about it. Those troops will be armed with weapons that you do not even know about. How much of a chance did Iraq have? Libya? Afghanistan? We are the masters of war and now it is being turned against YOU!.

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              • Them Guys says:

                Look very Close at the two choices Prior to vote time. Whichever one has the “Circle-K” Kosher stamp of approval IS who was Pre-selected as Winner!

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            • Walt Kowalski says:

              “If voting could really change anything, it would be illegal.”

              Saw this piece by George Carlin too….(with whom I agree with only rarely). But one quote stands out….

              “The politicians are put there to give the idea that you have freedom of choice…..you don’t..”

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

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            • Y'all Beware! says:

              At the ready.

              Y’all Beware! Pull The Trigger! (PTT)

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          • @yomamma,

            No. No point in responding…

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          • Anonymous says:

            no more debate..We are just going to stand our lawful ground..Capitol Hill already knows as time goes on, our position improves…They know we know it…it isn’t like 5% know it is more like 30% and growing…mostly by folks living beyond city limits…places that are higly resistant to change…Most out there are not as stupid as they might look..We must give our core people credit

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            • Makati1 says:

              I wish you were right, but I have not seen anything here to prove you correct. Americans are on drugs. Most are on some form of anti-depressant. Others are on those kid drugs. A large percentage are on life support drugs. Many more are just on recreational drugs like alcohol, tobacco, Maryjane, cocaine, etc. 40% of the world’s prescription drugs are consumed by Americans. Drugs are a $100 billion dollar industry in the US. And that does not count legal alcohol.

              No, America will fall apart if the drugstores close and the military actually prevents illegal drugs from being imported, which will be their first action, I think. They know what they were doing when they promoted all of these drugs and started the ‘war on drugs’ so they could control the import of illegal drugs and skim the profits while building up an addicted population.

              You have been controlled from your first breath until you die. It is just now coming out into the open as they are getting close to the end of the process. It’s about money and power and not anything ‘patriotic’.

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              • I say BS to your theory Makati1!

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                • Alien Hunter says:

                  Cause your a fool jp…….sorry!
                  Makati1 is so right it isn’t even funny anymore…

                  If there is one person on this site who still thinks voting is real and 911 is the work of Arabs……God help you!

                  Guns, GUNs…..you people really just don’t seem to understand the gravity of the situation! Wow! Do you think you actually have time to sit on your asses and debate this shit anymore?

                  If you don’t mind your grandkids being enslaved by Aliens from other planets…..then just keep on typing! If you want to take THIS PLANET back, you better start talking with something other than your keyboards!

                  But YOU WON’T……cause this is just entertainment for 99% of the people who visit this website!

                  Do you know what the best defense is???? Oh, is that just something to tell your kids while they are playing sports! OFFENSE……that’s what!

                  Are YOU willing to DIE for YOUR WORLD????

                  Nope, you’re not…..so they will succeed, sorry, the truth hurts….doesn’t it.

                  They don’t need to take away the guns or the drugs….lol

                  All they need to do, is turn off your electronic banking……checkmate you LOSE!

                  FOOLS!

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                • Walt Kowalski says:

                  Makati may not be entirely correct (though I can’t see where he’s in error)….and he has a valid point.

                  Want to see chaos? Cut off the serotonin re-uptake inhibitors that people are literally addicted to today. Talk to anyone who has been on these medications and have tried to get off them. They are as physically addictive as heroin. And when they try to get off, many of them have psychotic episodes.

                  Cut these addicts off from these “legal” prescription meds and watch the fun.

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                • Luther says:

                  I don’t like what Makati said or his theory, but he is partially right. How many post over the last few years have we discussed those who are on anti depressants who won’t be able to get their med’s?

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                • roger says:

                  dear alien hunter,
                  have you ever caught or killed one of them aliens? ever even seen one? what are you doing here typing crap from your keyboard? huh? do you and Makati1 really believe that most people are on some sort of drug? really? it sounds like you two are the drugged up ones.

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              • Merree says:

                Makati,
                I do not agree with all that you say but I do agree that most Americans are dependent on drugs. I have seen it as a physician.

                Patients don’t want to fix their problems by working on that problem. They use antidepressants, alcohol, and drugs to hide from reality because they don’t want to make the changes that are needed. They want antibiotics for colds and they want any discomfort eliminated immediately. I do not see any way these people will be able to deal with a major crisis. They will demand that the government solve their problem and they are likely to go along with all kinds of regulation as long as they don’t have to pay for it out of their own pocket. Tax someone instead or take it from the “wealthy”.

                A big problem is the number of people on narcotics for pain. It seems that every little ache and pain requires a narcotic. The government is cracking down on the doctors by recording every narcotic prescription in a database with information on who got the prescription and how much. This information is accessible to any medical professional and probably others. (It is my belief that they will eventually expand this to include every prescription written but that’s another story.)

                Have you noticed the recent news about how the government is cracking down on fake imported drugs? Some of the drugs are probably harmful but they are also going after the drugs that people import from Canada and India. India is a big manufacturer of copy cat drugs which they sell at affordable prices. The pharmaceutical companies know this and they are working with the government to shut them down. If they manage to succeed, it will make medications less affordable for millions.

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                • Merree,
                  America’s soul is sick. This is part of the clue.
                  What has made us sick?
                  Our souls have been destroyed by almost a hundred years of brainwashing, brainwashing our spirits. They have taken the man out of men, and the integrity of accomplishment and free will of freedom has been replaced by the Collective. But man works for himself, not the mindless collective. Thus his soul and spirit come into conflict as he is pounded that he is selfish, his God is dead, his morality is wrong headed, his dreams and accomplishments are meaningless, and the meaning of life is taken away from him. The meaning of life is joy, not ‘service’ to some faceless mass.
                  It is not just business that is driven into the ground by socialism, but the spirit of men. We have heard the terms ‘normalcy bias’, ‘cognitive dissonance’, and various other terms that describe the mental conflict set up by the socialists evil nonsense. But in the end, they know, they can only conquer free thinking men, by destroying our souls. We now arrive on the doorstep of systemic irrationality, where the irrational is rational, evil is good, good is evil, and irrational is irrelevant. And we wonder why our pain is growing?

                  It is my thesis, that the prepper, is the most spiritual person on the planet. Millions of us that think for ourselves, and cannot be conquered by emotional nonsense. For in the end, this is how they get you, the emotional conflict between mind and emotions, the impossible conflict; selflessness versus selfish action, both religious and political, and going along with the madness of crowds, and wanting to be part of the crowd… things that preppers avoid. The Prepper understands, that they are working to destroy our civilization by conquering our souls. But we trim our wicks, fill our lamps and hide in a back room, for we understand, Something wicked this way comes.

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              • @Makati1….again, not everyone in the country is on drugs and yeah, there are people who are addicted to a variety of crap and will they be unstable when their supply stops-probably! Are they going to be a major pain to deal with…yeah!
                @Alien Hunter…did I say anywhere on this site that voting is real…NO! It doesn’t matter who you vote for….it’s all rigged! And yes, I know what the government did regarding 9/11. As far as being enslaved by “aliens” from other planets….they’ve probably been here forever…so F##king what! I’m not worried about electronic banking….apparently you are!
                @yourmama….you’re a troll! Go play somewhere else!

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              • SheepShifter says:

                True about the prescription drugs. But, mostly useless to the victim. Cold turkey will produce functional, thinking person again. TPTB don’t want that. TPTB are the profiteers from the drug industry…

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        • JayJay says:

          She is my spiritual sister, DK.
          Let your Barnhardt out is right!

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          • John Q. Public says:

            I give up. What is a “Barnhardt”?

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            • Sigi says:

              If you hate her she must be right on- you certainly aren’t.

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        • Mordacai says:

          They are just trying to buy Russia off of intervening in Syria. Russia may be pretending on going along with their plans but they will always have there own agenda.

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      • Fucking pissed says:

        The soilders, scum foreigners or traitors, won’t get to the front door before their fucking brains are blown out. We are many.

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        • Barn Cat says:

          Yeah, right. They’ll have tanks, planes, armored personnel carriers, drones, and satellites. You’ll just be one untrained person with a gun. They’ll kick your door in a 3 AM and you’ll crap your jammies in sheer terror. It isn’t 1860 anymore. An armed citizen is no match for the military. Sorry to scare all you armchair Rambo types but it’s true.

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          • roger says:

            tell that shit to the
            Brits of 1780 or so……

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            • Makati1 says:

              The 1700s are different times and different people. And not everyone picked up a gun and fought. And even fewer will do so today. Three Squares and a TV, and it will be “Yes master. How high?” If they had been standing up against a modern armed military force, we would still be an English colony. You have guns. They have more kinds of weapons than I want to waste space on here.

              The people of those days were tough. Not so today. And military experience does not count when you are a ‘castle’ surrounded by far superior forces. Too many ways to force you out and once that happens…

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          • durango kidd says:

            No Barn Cat, YOU will be the untrained person with a gun if you even own one. Most of US are ex-military. WE know how to use OUR weapons.

            Shoot and scoot.

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          • fucking pissed says:

            Why dont you just put a round through your head? You are already dead. I dont care what the odds are. Oh yes, I am trained to fight.

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          • Slick One says:

            Ever hear of asymetrical warefare? Gurrilla warfare?
            Unconventional warfare?

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          • Cameraman says:

            BC What in hell makes you think we are UNTRAINED, there are 50 Million Vets. maybe long in the Tooth, but Trained to Kill any Bastard that sticks his head up…We don”t relish War and We don”t go looking for a Fight, but be they Ivan or JBT..they will be Just as DEAD..That you My Friend can Bank on….

            Semper Fi

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            • Canadian Vet says:

              Besides, those who might not be able to fight because of age or medical conditions or injuries can fill in other crucial roles.

              Things like training, logistical support, intelligence, operational planning, communications or specialized support roles also require experienced hands. Not every Vet was in a combat role to begin with and their expertise might still be required to run an effective insurgency.

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          • Canadian Vet says:

            And illiterate Afghan half-savages, with no formal training, have successfully fought against British Regulars, the Red Army and highly advanced, well-trained and fully equipped NATO forces.

            Yes, some training is needed but training also tends to push a “there is only one way” mentality and makes you predictable and closes off the mind to unconventional thinking unless some serious efforts are made. As the saying goes, professionals are predictable, amateurs are dangerous.

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      • Action Speaks says:

        I just don’t know what a real American is anymore, or even what America is anymore. It’s not the country I gre up in. It’s not the place where I used to go out and play guns with my friends when I was little. Maybe I need to take a trip South or West. Find some small town and watch a little league baseball game with my girlfriend. Maybe that will bring home back to me and make me say “oh yeah! There’s my country!” I do miss it. Cannot imagine what the older gents must feel.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Amen, good post

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        • Mark says:

          Action Speaks,
          It can be terrifying for me. My Dad was in WW II and had to go through the Depression, as well. We both, as “older gents” are sometimes baffled and freaked out at what America has become.
          When I was in elementary, my music teacher taught the choir I sang in “Panis Angelicus”, in Latin. I wasn’t even Catholic, but I liked the song. Today Mrs. White would probably be strung up with piano wire for teaching us that song. We used to chase Guinea hens in the woods just to make them squawk. My parents took me to the planetarium and to the Dallas symphony. My Dad always told me that I needed to know Shakespeare and the Bible, and he read them to me at night after he tucked me into my bed.
          My Grandad taught me to make “carbide cannons” by putting carbide from a welding shop in a Steen’s syrup can and lighting it up through a hole in the bottom once the acetylene gathered. He’d probably be called a terrorist today for that. We hunted squirrel and rabbit and cooked up our take the same day. I cooked my own fried eggs in bacon grease. It was a thrilling moment when I kissed my girlfriend in the dog-house. And all that was in elementary school days.

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          • Makati1 says:

            Mark, we must be about the same age. I have seen the decline as have you and we see what has been lost. Those under 30 cannot even imagine the 50s or 60s. They have no form of reference. They see today as ‘the way it always was and will be’.

            I debate with a young techie in Europe who cannot understand how thing have come and gone so many times in the last 70 years. I’ve seen tubes become transistors become chips and will likely see all of that go away before I die. He cannot believe that the internet and all, only exist because we have had cheap, plentiful energy to allow such things to be built. I tell him that he will see the end of most things electronic before he dies and he gets upset and tells me that it will go on forever. Nothing is forever. Not even time…

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            • Mark says:

              Makati1,
              Sometimes I imagine myself having a conversation with Ben Franklin, in which I try to explain that heavily MIRVed ICBMs could sterilize the entire Earth, that we have mapped the human genome consisting of DNA strands that are two nanometers in diameters and that the police are interested in gathering the unique DNA signatures of all 320,000,000 Americans into an immense biological catalog, and that the Japanese have invented sex robots that they are beginning to prefer to human women. Then I try to explain that people like Teilhard de Chardin and Ray Kurzweil predict that with all its moving parts and increasing velocity and complexity, the world will somehow arrive at a “technological singularity”, but that the super-human automata of that day end up bootstrapping themselves right into the realization that humans are the new cockroaches and need to be squished.Chaos theory has the Universe flying apart into paisley fractals, but Teilhard’s “Omega Point” is the ultimate ascent into orderly and transcendent complexity. Either way, I imagine Old Ben getting very pissed off!

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        • Mordacai says:

          If you don’t have a kid or realative in the game you will probably get arrested for stalking.

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        • lower40 says:

          hey action

          im as far south as you can go ,and in a fairly small town ,and its here also ,i dont think you can go back home at this point ,ive tried putting my head in the sand for a while ,but the the whole nasty mess has run into even the smallest crack and crevice ,i some times say that its all relitive that bad has always been happening ,but thats a lie i remember growing up there was just as many good time as bad time ,and probaly more good times ,but now every day brings new negative ,i wish i could turn off the switch ,but i cant even find the switch

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      • LoveFreedom says:

        Guys…Please be very very VERY careful of Russia and America whenever they join forces…Its bad news..

        Russia and America are the Best Friends For ever. Whenever they want to destroy a country they come from opposite sides in the name of Communism/Democracy – Socialism/Capitalism with a common ground on Freedom. This is the same tactic they used for over 100 years now.

        List of countries they have divided and ruled and butchered millions of its local population.

        1. Germany.

        2. Korea.

        3. Vietnam.

        4. Yugoslavia

        5. Afghanistan

        6. Libya

        7. Syria.

        and now it seems

        8. America

        They appear to be foe on main stream but are BFF behind the scene…..

        If Russian forces come to America…Its 100% guaranteed..they are planning something really big. They only Join forces when they want to butcher Million plus humans

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        • Russia and the US federal govicorp may get together on some issues…but AMERICA will never side up to the bear…we tend to speak of America and the US like they are the same thing…they are most definitely NOT the same…America I love and will fight anyone in her defense….the US govicorp?…I wont lift a finger to help preserve it…America has been lorded over and corrupted by the US inc, that illegal entity inside DC that has pulled a coup since Lincolns time…time to split hairs and separate the wheat from the chaff…take America back!
          As far as foreign troops working on our ground in cahoots with DC….hehehehe…’aint skeered!

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          • …besides I cant see russia selling their sons for cannon fodder to help out the kenyan…they have a grasp of history and of reality Im sure and they have to know that it aint gonna be worth it…makes no sense!

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          • Anonymous says:

            You’re right to say! Neither country is not what America should help. America itself got into the “crap” – so let itself and vybiraetsya of his “shit”

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        • SheepShifter says:

          Sounds correct.
          I’d add USSR between 3 and 4.
          But, I don’t think USA will need USSR to pacify the USA sheep…

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      • 3Toes says:

        You are so absolutely correct. Many Americans including myself would have second and even third thoughts about pulling the trigger on an US Military uniform. Not so if they start speaking broken English.

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      • Man on the inside says:

        Like I said … the gangs (who kill for much less reasons), in the cities alone will cause alot of trouble for these foriegn troops. Then the Good cops and military personal who realize what this is…. and then the Normal city folks who are armed…. then they try to move to the middle of the country and into the small tounds and rural areas… they will be crucified even with heavy artilary and air suport. Once dispatched and the American public figures out what realy happened there will not be a safe place for a public offical that allowed this. Then we can hit the reset buten. Stay safe and watchfull.

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      • watching and waiting says:

        Notice the handshake. Putin’s over Obama’s, a sign of submission…….. to a higher authority

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        • Them Guys says:

          Perhaps Putin will Keep his Vow to assist Christians anywheres they are at. So far he is doing so to help syrian christians and blocking homabby and israeli moves to better arm and fund the alqueda rebels.

          Rebels usa and israel arm and fund that are Killing and Beheading tons of christiabs of syria. One town of 10,000 christians there just recently got invaded by rebels, ALL men were Killed off, women raped girls too, forced to exit and Leave behind all they own and their homes too. Rebels confiscated it all. And the usa and israel is whos arming and funding it. And MSM are NOT telling You any of this.

          As for us citizens to fight and Win etc?…Maybe…but Not unless enough braindead fools awaken to Who and What the True enemys actually consists of. That won’t happen unless Tens of thousands preachers begin to preach such factual truths and Rile the folks up to fight, like preachers did in 1775. That too won’t happen most likly, as those pastors, most anyways, are funded By the true enemys. They worship the enemys. So do their pews full of folks. Them folks refuse to believe its true when a person Posts a entire long list of proof as to Who Owns/controls/reports in ALL MSM nationwide.

          Same for us fed govnt congress and most fed agencys. Even with actual Names posted for the fools to Read, they still reject such proof. You expect Them to do…What? Besides continue in their Grand Delusions of Zionist worship. They will all follow Their 5-Star General, pastor john hagee straight to the end…That would be Hells Front Gate. With some Zioboy holding the gate open for em all! Good Luck. Wish it were Not so…It Is what It Is though.

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      • US Centurion says:

        I ink that you have way to much faith in the Citizens of this nation. They will rollover and play like good dogs and the few that do stand up will be made an example of.

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      • Ter-ber says:

        Plenty??? Wow I don’t think we scrape up 10% of the Americans to fight for our Constitution. Too late. It’s 5 minutes to midnight. Our own neighbors will turn us in. beholdapalehorse.tv

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      • Jaxson says:

        I have read several comments and I am just a little confused. I will be on your side defending our America when threatened but how would you defend without assemble and tactical meaning? Assuming most of you would be defending on your property sure taking out the first blue helmet would cause alarm and treat you as a hostile. When reinforcements arrive I would assume your threat will be resolved. To defend, you need to assembly, tactics, food/water, mobility, medical and supplies. We could learn a lot from other countries we have invaded and how they have disrupted or in some cases victorious in stopping a threat. In all cases means leaving property and family. A one man army would die yet standing for what he or she believes in would be admiral however if and when this picture being painted as an invasion at some point we would still be up against the greatest military in the world the US. So what’s the plan of defense?

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      • Jaxson says:

        I have read several comments and I am just a little confused. I will be on your side defending our America when threatened but how would you defend without assemble and tactical meaning? Assuming most of you would be defending on your property sure taking out the first blue helmet would cause alarm and treat you as a hostile. When reinforcements arrive I would assume your threat will be resolved. To defend, you need to assembly, tactics, food/water, mobility, medical and supplies. We could learn a lot from other countries we have invaded and how they have disrupted or in some cases victorious in stopping a threat. In all cases means leaving property and family. A one man army would die yet standing for what he or she believes in would be admiral however if and when this picture being painted as an invasion at some point we would still be up against the greatest military in the world the US. So what’s the plan of defense?

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      • whoisbiggles says:

        1.6 million Non-Russian troops to occupy Allied Germany after WW2.

        A Germany that had been bombed into submission, was starving and whos Army had been wiped from the map.

        15,000 Russian troops – exactly how much of America do they think they could hold? Maybe an area the size of Delaware – but I doubt it.

        How many UN troops would it take to occupy an America, that didn’t get the German WW2 softening up treatment?

        Seriously which countries would sign up their troops for the American meat grinder?? None, Well maybe China as a way to cull some excess males.

        This is all about psychological conditioning – making the sheeple reliant on the Great Obummer to provide their security, health, phone, food and shelter.

        Not saying an invasion couldn’t happen but it won’t be head on. The arsewipes will attack in ways we wont expect – drugging food and water, chem trails, flouride, drug resistant diseases. Only when the spirit is broken and the sheeple are begging to be conquered, will we be.

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      • bumpkin says:

        JoeRepublic, its the plan. The government, including but not limited to Congress, has to do that in order to break and kill us enough to comply with their part of the NWO, -the UN Agenda 21 NWO, -ONE world government. ALL of the crap-happenings right now are planned and executed to develop the NWO into place. One cannot have a few hundred major and minor financial systems in place when the bigpigs want Just ONE. Their One. They will purposefully collapse them all, and when chaos reigns, they will say, “we have an idea… the NWO! It’ll save us ALLLLL!” (puke) Those that don’t say “count me in”, (probably by accepting a metallized tattoo, -like, maybe, 666 on their hand, whatever,) will be set upon by the dogs of another nation, (not from their own,) to be exterminated. Poof. And because they know we don’t like it, and some will fight it, ‘they’ (the current governments who signed onto UN Agenda 21) are COMBINING militaries, to have a world army-. Yeah, a really huge one that we cannot kill- just too many replacements to kill. Just two days ago, I read about Russia and China’s joint military exercises, etc… so they are all doing it, all combining their armies, to shove for this. They KNOW many people in many nations will fight it to the death. THAT is OK with them. People will sign onto the world army in order to feed their families, then to get themselves killed, or kill the dissenters, – which, in reality, will also fulfill the Agenda 21 mandate that over 90% of the world’s population will be exterminated. The world government will not care which one wins the fight. They plan to win the war, and turn the earth into their private park. Without us.

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      • Old Lady says:

        What about when twenty trucks full of troops kick in your door like they did after Hurricane Katrina? They will confiscate your guns, hit you and kick you, all in the middle of the night, when you least expect it. My guess is our ten-round magazines won’t do us much good against a bunch of trained, order following, young fools who think they’re doing the right thing. With enough door-kicking experience, my guess is, these youngsters will become truly bloodthirsty and we can look forward to looting, rape and murder. Land of the free to be liberal, home of the enslaved… Not my American Dream.

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    2. AZ PREPPER says:

      BRING UM ON 1111

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    3. Brane Frees says:

      I only have one word for this…

      NO!

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      • 3Toes says:

        I think its pronounced Nyet!

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        • sixpack says:

          It’s interesting that I just saw an NBC article about the football league saying “nyet” to promoting obamacare. They actually used the Russian word for ‘no’ in the headline.

          So now we’re supposed to think that it is communist practice to say no to promoting socialist propaganda?

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    4. AZ PREPPER says:

      Amen brother!

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    5. James says:

      I really don’t know how to take this but it seema that it is a two way street. The Russian people won’t like US forces there any more than we would like them here.
      The same argument can be made for both populations.
      On the surface it sounds not so bad but I personally think we can handle our own problems without Russian help.
      What could the PTB be thinking? Figuring that they use Russians to get rid of us figuring that Russia wouldn’t be as difficult to bring down? Can’t figure this one out. But Russians are tough cookies as Hitler found out the hard way. Regards James

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      • snake eater says:

        James
        they were tough in Russia here it will be a different story….the cold is what beat the
        Germans not the Russians….plus the long supply line

        snake

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        • Get your winter gear now, especially good bunny boots or something similar. In AK I didn’t want to miss a dentist appointment and walked almost all the way there before someone picked me up. It was several miles. I had the old bunny boots on and lots of layers. It was -50 degrees.

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      • fab290 says:

        Foreign troops would be MUCH more likely to fire on American citizens…

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      • If the government was doing something as a sensible preparation, wouldn’t it make more sense to have an agreement with Canada or Mexico? They are next door neighbors. When you need help you call your neighbor not the guy who lives 1/3 of the way around the world.

        And you never let your enemy land their troops on your soil when you are vulnerable. That is common sense.

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        • Luther says:

          We already have such a treaty with Canada, if needed Battle Ready Canadian Troops can patrol our streets with instructions to use deadly force to protect themselves.

          It does not matter what country they are from, armed and patrolling on US soil they are invaders and the American people are “Obligated” to repel them!

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      • sixpack says:

        I think TPTB are hoping to overwhelm us. They know we don’t fear them anymore and there has been notable resistance to their endgame within the American military ranks.

        Judging from comments I read on some Russian websites, the general Russian people think the same way. I don’t have the best russian vocabulary anymore, so I may be missing some innuendos, but it looks like the Russian people are rooting for “We the people” against the globalists.

        Pretty damn sad what we’ve let our nation become, isn’t it

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      • Them Guys says:

        It just dawned on me, is this latest usa/ruissian agrements simply More. IE: when Ron Reagan was Prez in 1980′s He sent some fed honchos to Russia, to sign Public Schools agrrements with russians. Basically it was designed to send a few hundred US-teacher experts to Russia, and for russians to send their’s Here. To teach each others nations our forms and their forms of schooling etc. A Switcheroo if you will.

        One gander at the last 25+ yrs of usa schools looks like usa definatly adopted Former Soviet Kommie methods for Teaching/Brainwashing students eh. Remember that was back when russia WAS Still the ussr Soveit comie run nation. Before Putin and others Booted all the kommie soviets or Jailed em all. Now they too are Here in usa. Soviets I mean.

        Maybe this is simply an extention of long past plans such as what reagan did with school systems etc.

        Why would Putin as well as Todays Russian white christian vast majority folks, ever want to come to usa to Assist the Very soviet kommies infested into all usa fed govnt and msm etc?…Unless they will fake it for an excuse to come here to assist Us in a “Final Solution” of our troubles perhaps!

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    6. kaynine says:

      Whatt maakes you tink dey goings to spek brokenn engrish?
      soviet spetznatz? does not knock on your door!!!.

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    7. Gus McCrae says:

      If it was ever confirmed foreign were operating in America, it would be game on.

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    8. Iowa says:

      This needs to go viral before Monday.

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      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Remember what ‘Ol Slippery promised Putin and was caught on an open mike, “Once I am re-elected, I’ll have more leeway.”…….. Ruck up! On your feet! The time is drawing closer.

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        • Never have believed the Russian Glasnost, just a bunch of huey. Putin is a great actor and is the bear beast of Revelation. He posses as a Orthodox Christian but is a lying dog! He has billions in the bank like every good whore. Putin is the bad cop in the goodcop/badcop world stage. He sold out Egypt, Libya and will eventually sell out Syria and Iran in other words he truly is a whore who kisses Satans ass. The fat lady is about to sing and all the masks are about to come off!

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          • Sigi says:

            I was there and Glasnost was for real. My fellow students were occasionally giddy with the freedom to say things. Years later living in Moscow a Russian said to me, “Now we both have preseidents to be ashamed of (Yeltsin and Clinton).” That would have been impossible to say in an office like ours ten years before that. It was real, Ike. Just as real has been the Putin frost that followed. Religious freedoms are being squelched outside of Moscow, not to mention freedoms of speech and assembly which have been under attack in the public eye. Thousands have protested- they never would have before Glasnost. I have no doubt that Putin is bad news, but I don’t blame the people for him- they never had a real choice.

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            • Come on Sigi it is a smokescreen cast over the people again. Orthodox Christianity is a sham that has not moved out of it idolatry and stagnant priesthood and old KGB ways. You think Paul went around in fancy shit like those priest and waved incense in front of his iconic idols…bullshit! We have to get out of the matrix these bastard have created. Putin meets with his good-fellows the Lubavichers all the time…he knows what is going on. The Bank of England is stronger than it has ever been in Russia. The Russian mob is as strong as ever. Now these ass%$^#@ want us to warm up to RT and buy the swill…wake up! And who makes up all these groups that control Russia…the same ones that control the rest of the world including the ass#&^$ Chinese murdering bastards. Your in a matrix my friend…run for your life! Look, when Putin makes deals with China like the USA your screwed to. All the wonderful things you exalt about Russia are not real but illusory. Putin could not tell the world the truth if his life depended on it, he is a peacock! I hope the Russian people can free themselves but they are in the same condition as we are but they have no way to defend themselves unless your a made man. The beast is in its last stages of development into death and hell personified!

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    9. Watchdog says:

      Watch this clip and then decide. It’s war and sooner than you think. They know the masses are waking up, or at least some and it scares the shit out of them.

      Mole Labe

      http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/06/proof-foreign-troops-in-cali-training-to-kill-americans-only-time-will-tell-what-are-they-preparing-for-operation-dawn-blitz-2013-2478782.html

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      • dave says:

        @ watchdog…we have been doing that amphib exersize with japan for awhile now. That is more for the japanese to retake thier Islands that the chinese are about to steal. That BIN article is Fear Porn, just like most of that shit on the site. A month or two ago, BIN had 2 articles on false flags in Troy MT and Bonners Ferry/Sandpoint Idaho, both were bullshit as I live between the two.

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      • KY Mom says:

        Investor withdrawals…

        Investors pull $23.3 billion out of funds in a WEEK.

        The Financial Times

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    10. fiftyfiver says:

      Ok I’m adding Vodka to my preps… thanks for the heads up comrade. Garden is kicking in very nicely – bought more seeds and fertilizer this week… my kind of PM = Peace of Mind. Start living it now people. Like there is no tomorrow.

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    11. Anonymous says:

      The soviet spetsnaz are already here and operating and you won’t know that they’re soviet. They are trained from an early age to speak English as though it were their 1st language and with a southern twang if desired and no, they probably won’t knock on your door, break it in maybe!

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    12. AZ PREPPER says:

      I think I read somewhere that the amount of gun owners in the US is more than the 10 largest militaries on this planet. Can anyone confirm this?

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      • I think you’re right AZ:

        Active duty military from the top 10 countries worldwide is around 25 million.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel

        There are an estimated 270 million guns in America, and around 35% of Americans own at least one gun…

        Behind every blade of grass…

        :)

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        • But you need bullets. That is why they are going after them. There won’t be a resupply line for civilians if things go bad.

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          • You are correct about the ammo. That is why you fight like a gorilla fighter, taking weapons and ammo as you kill them. Your best bet is have a weapon that fires the enemies ammo, but if not take the gun and ammo of the first one you kill. Even though I carry the same gun all the time, I have several different caliber guns on hand that I can switch to. What ever I have to do to defeat the enemy will be done. Every American with a gun will have to take up arms or we will be over run.

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          • JayJay says:

            We need bullets?? NOT.
            I think the cow already left that barn! :-)

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            • JayJay says:

              AND in my mind, once the foreigners start that s**t, all LEO agencies are on our side??
              They too have families in this ya know.

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              • durango kidd says:

                I agree Jayjay. If foreign troops were ever unleashed in America every red-blooded American would respond with fury and PRECISION; local LEOs would prove their worth to the people, and Veterans would establish Freedom Cells all over the country Most of the LEO’s are ex-military. Shoot ‘n Scoot. Support your local Sheriff.

                Engage your employees or be enslaved by them. It may come down to US or them: them being the NWO pimps in DC who want to recreate and “transform” America.

                Death to Traitors. :-)

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                Anyone with a uniform will be a target, period

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                • Canadian Vet says:

                  Except a uniform and a chain of command entitle you to Geneva Convention protection. I would much rather be a prisoner of war with all the entitlements and protections than a “domestic terrorist” should I get caught alive.

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                • durango kidd says:

                  No, everyone in uniform is NOT a target. Federal Thugs or anyone with them seeking to unconstitutionally disarm Americans are a righteous target.

                  Sheriffs, local cops, National Guard, and active military who do not side with a Rogue Administration are not OUR enemy. They are US. WE are them. They are OUR brothers, fathers, sisters, and mothers.

                  They are fellow Americans worthy of attack only if they follow an unconstitutional order to disarm Americans.

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                • yourmotherwaswrong says:

                  Hey DK

                  Are you gonna be wearing your government issued costume (colors) when SHTF?

                  Wouldn’t wanna mistake you for one of them jackbooted government thugs.

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              • Lost In The C.R.C says:

                If the Civil War pitted father to son, and brother against brother, how will having family in this garner alliance to, or co-operation with, law enforcement? No, I fear the truth we face will be raw and chaotic, leaving no one’s morals questioned, and clouding everybody’s decisions with the fog of uncertanty….

                A Russian invasion would make a great catalyst to unify our country against “The Enemy” but too many people will diverge from each other’s beliefs on too many things to stay cohesive for long.

                “The Enemy Of My Enemy Is My Friend” – can only go so far…

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          • Butterknife says:

            Need explosives in a war also, in the last month or so 1 chemical plant, 2 fertilizer plants, and a fireworks factory in Canada at least have been blown up or had explosions.
            Grey terror?

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            • roger says:

              as for tanks and apc’s I have one word; THERMITE!! google it and learn how to make it, put it in 1 gallon baggies, fuse it light it and put it on top whichever big metal vehicle you wish to destroy. 4000 degrees F. it’ll barbecue everything and everyone inside…

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              • Or six foot deep trenches work good. They also double as graves for scoundrels. Nothing like an honest days work to put some inspiration in your perspiration.

                and JayJay that is mighty kind of you to offer. Right now I’m working on arranging an armed watch for the neighborhood, got an Army Sergeant who might be interested in leading it; that and contacting people all over my state and trying to start organizing.

                Finally convinced my skeptical father to spend a paycheck on weapons and ammo. We just finished planting a big old patch and building a pen for chickens. Still haven’t convinced him to take the family shooting or pick up more dried/canned goods though. But you can only do so much with the time you are given.

                Let your husband know he has my respect, for what it is worth. It takes balls to fight in any war, and many Vietnam Vets didn’t have much of a choice. Tell em he should hang on in the mean time, America needs it’s vets to train young bucks like me when the SHTF. Our country needs the wisdom of your generation, the labor of mine, and the anger of both.

                Pray hard, prepare harder.

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              • PenCRNA says:

                Don’t you watch NCIS? Thermite is highly volatile! LOL

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        • my two guns says:

          I have two guns NWO mother fuckers. And the compound bow with the bone shattering arrows…you’ll never hear coming.

          Invade the US and we’ll step up.

          I’m betting there will be a military take over by our guys..and all of Congress will be arrested and charged with treason.

          Dems are commies.

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        • soapdish says:

          I do think everyone needs to watch, “The Patriot” again if you haven’t done so already. Also the original “Red Dawn”.

          I’ve been reading about the so called 30,000 guillotines stationed around the U.S.. Plus Georgia Governor wants to start using guillotines for execution, hmmmmm.

          We already know there are many foreign troops already stationed here. Whole bases have been given over to them.
          I highly doubt they will be wearing those blue helmets when the time comes, but regardless the time is approaching.
          We are being assaulted every single day and it would not surprised me one bit if this could possibly be the last Independence Day? In my heart, I do believe that there will be another Independence Day in the coming future, which then Americans will have two such days to remember and celebrate.
          This country will not be forgotten for there are many who believe in America. Many will relinquish, but many will stand proud and defend to the best of their abilities.
          Stay ever vigilant fellow Patriots/Americans!!!!

          B Aware, B Awake, B Alive
          The world will see tactics never before seen to through the invaders out.

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          • soapdish says:

            throw

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          • Canadian Vet says:

            Like I said, Obama will not have the military’s loyalty. Odds are thousands, tens of thousands of troops with a lot of conterinsurgency experience will take to the bush. Outside of major cities, the US will belong to the resistance and every interstate will become IED alley.

            And throw in a few people with counter-IED experience amongst the resistance and every convoy leaving a green zone will take casualties.

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    13. Mojo Nixon says:

      Check-mate.

      The only way to get the “military” to force citizens into concentration camps and actively kill on amerikan soil…. invite the enemy to do your bidding to do what those you pay will not/and cannot do because of family ties.

      The first shot has been fired over the heads of the free.

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    14. First sorry about the long post but worth reading. Due to some health issues I have no be posting but I always read.

      IF WE TAKE UP ARMS AND FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS… OBAMA WILL IMPOSE “MARTIAL LAW”. Good grief how many times have I heard this pathetic line. Too many times.

      Patriots. Lets rationally analyze this OK ? ( pardon my syntax etc on this post since I am doing this quickly before I leave on a mission! )

      What is Martial Law ?? It is the exercise of Government and Control by Military authorities over the civilian population of a designated territory.

      “Designated Territory” get it. There is no army in the world that can impose Martial Law over all of AMERICA. It is logistically impossible. Some cities ?? Yes… a large area ?? Maybe.

      Do you know why they want gun registration and then gun confiscation ?? So that they can control large areas. Right now it is IMPOSSIBLE.

      Why ?
      1. The Military will not go along with Obama 100%. The will be a mutiny in the military. So about 70% will take their arms and munition and join the American Citizens… creating huge holes in the logistical supply chains for the remaining enforcers.
      2. The PEOPLE will be against them so there will be limited safe havens and they will have to move in large convoys reducing their tactical ability to control large sections or land.
      3. The most important point is that the will be return fire. Here are some consoling and awesome statistics.
      There were 13.7 million hunters in the United States over age 16 — 12.7 million of whom used rifles, shotguns or handguns for hunting, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

      That means hunters constituted only 15.9 to 18.1 percent of the estimated 70-80 million gun owners in the U.S. in 2011 — the latest year for which statistics are available.

      In a Dec. 28 national report, USF&W said 13.7 million individuals over age 16 self-identified as hunters, and that 12.7 million used guns (shotguns, rifles or handguns) while hunting.

      Another 2.9 million hunters used antique muzzleloaders to hunt, but according to USF&W, there is overlap between this figure and other figures due to self-reporting.

      Around 4.5 million hunted with bows and arrows.

      The National Rifle Association (NRA), meanwhile, estimates there were between 70 and 80 million American gun owners as of January 2011.

      Those 70-80 million gun owners had in their possession almost 300 million firearms, about 100 million of which were handguns.

      America’s Hunters. The World’s Largest Army.

      The state of Wisconsin has over 600,000 hunters that got permits this year.

      Allow me to restate that number: 600,000

      Over the last two months, the eighth largest army in the world – more men under arms than Iran; more than France and Germany combined – deployed to the woods of a single American state to keep the deer population under control.

      But that pales in comparison to the 750,000 who are in the woods of Pennsylvania this week. Michigan’s 700,000 hunters have now returned home. Toss in a quarter million hunters in West Virginia, and it is literally the case that the hunters of those four states alone would comprise the largest army in the world.

      And that is just FOUR states.

      The total population of registered hunters in America today ranges from 23 million to 43.7 million individuals. (Based on annual data provided by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.) As long as the American Hunter retains his right to Bear Arms, America will forever be safe from imposition of Martial Law and a Military tale over if we all stick together.

      AN OBAMA FORCE STANDS LITTLE CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW GIVEN THESE STATISTICS.

      So cut the crap that Obama wants us to do something so he can impose Martial Law. We must not be afraid to act when the time comes.

      Your thoughts please ??

      CATIYMF NOMI
      DPS

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      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Them’s a lot of people DPS. But most will stay at home wait’n to see which way the wind is gonna blow before they’ll commit. Sad to say but true as our history has shown.

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        • PO’d

          Very correct sir, But alot will have the thought you and I have, This is not a fight I will leave to my children and grandchildren!!

          And thanks all for the response gives ya something to think about. Not sure who posted about the ammo, but here in Texas we tend to buy it like nails or screws. If 20 runs 30 or 40 bucks I’ll take a couple hundred this trip to town. And your right Deer don’t shoot back because they can’t.. If they could would you go deer hunting next yr??? Just food for thought.
          Now back to my easy chair and folks now would be a dandy time to make sure your health is in check and I will leave it at that.

          CATIYMF NOMI,
          DPS

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      • Fucking pissed says:

        Agreed DPS. We are many and we are pissed. Besides the number of arms you mentioned, the American patriots hold in excess of 30 billion rounds. I have ten thousand or so of those hidden away and would not part with any for worthless paper because I know my families lives depend on it.

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      • Nice post DPS and that’s exactly the reason that Obams will bring in foreign troops….he has to have someone deal with the citizenship while he’s in his hidey-hole! He’s not going to be able to count entirely on the military, hence back-up support!

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      • A hunter runs to the store to get his bullets for that day in the field. They don’t have a stockpile that would allow them to defend for months or years. To hunt, they don’t shoot the number of rounds that they would need for a military style encounter. Bullets.

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      • These assholes will use any and all forces against the American population…DHS, Mercs, SF, Mexican gangs, street gangs, Canadian, Mexican troops, NATO, Russia, China, UN…they will divvy up the areas and I have no doubt they have it all planned now! God will only allow it to go as far as he wills. It will be a blitzkrieg when it happens. I live in New England and recently had 2 backfire bombers from Russia fly over my house at a little over tree top level. It was very disconcerting and happened quick. I heard a voice…don’t laugh… saying it will come that fast when it happens. So do not be surprised when it starts, just be ready and right with the Lord so you can do his will.

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      • SD Mule says:

        DPS,
        Deer don’t shoot back!!!

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      • the edge says:

        You forget those with knives and who have swords.

        In the german / russian war…the russian mothers used kitchen knives to cut the thoats of any Germans they caught..

        No prisoners.

        NWO UN armies of the worlds…
        You will never see your homeland again if you try to invade our free nation.
        It will also be open season on traitors and collaborators.

        I live in peace until my real country calls me.
        I’ll be following our guys in the armed forces and our local cops.

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      • caliber says:

        and down here in the florida swamps,tanks cant drive through the trees, drones cant see through the tress, and if those russians come on foot, theyre in for a big suprise when they see the snakes and 8-12 ft alligators. i love my state, natural defenses

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Good points, they will NEVER be able to control this whole country, even if less than 1/4 of those with guns resist they are screwed and soon the numbers will swell, just imagine all the fuckin pissed people grabbing, guns, anything flammable, construction equipment and going ape shit on the idiots if they pull some crap and try to supress and disarm us. Ive got my eyes on a D8 and stack of road plates, and can burn steel like theres no tomorrow, theres no tanks here, lots of construction equipment! Like to see what happens to one of those APCs when you wack it with a D9 going 40mph!

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        • Lost In The C.R.C says:

          Funny, I have never seen ANY D8 or D9 that can do 40 MPH. Let me guess you’re Col. Hannibal and you have “The A Team” An rpg or 2 will leave you buried in your own contraption. A great idea in one’s dreams but physics will prevail. YOU CAN’T ADD SEVERAL THOUSAND POUNDS OF ROAD PLATE ARMOR TO A VEHICLE GEARED TO PULL AND DIG WITH A 375 Hp. Diesel engine and get 40 MPH….

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            You obviously never operated new heavy equipment have you.
            Your entitled to your opinion,

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            But yes, i will give you the hp and speed, i do know that there are lots of variables to how they perform, if they can push a fairly static pile if rocks and dirt it could theoreticly turn over and pile up a big rubber tire vehicle, or even a track vehicle for that matter,

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        • Canadian Vet says:

          Except that road plate isn’t armour-grade steel. It will stand up to most small arms, can’t speak for .50 BMG but other larger rounds, say like the 25mm rounds in LAV cannons or dedicated anti-armour weapons will go through that like paper. Not a bad idea though if you are careful with the use of that resource and keep it away from air support and anything from a .50 and up.

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      • Proftel says:

        DPS:

        Belo strategy text!

        I repeat: the day that U.S. citizens do a demonstration such as those occurring in Brazil (live in Brazil), will be a bloodbath, unfortunately.

        “Occupe Wall Street” was kid stuff close to what can happen when things get ugly.

        Greetings.

        :-)

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        • Proftel,

          You may have a point, if they choose to bring in some 15,000 men for a fight they sure don’t need to bring a lunch. Those numbers just won’t work. Like I said a yr or so ago some of the rural Americans have their ducks in a roll. And judging by current ammo sales many more are waking up. I also heard from a buddy a couple of states away that most of his group has gone off grid in the last 2 weeks.

          DPS

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      • possee says:

        DPS..

        Agreed with your premise..

        However.. a few thoughts to ponder..

        the recent”purge” of many top generals etc throughout the military gives thought to an alignment of true loyalists to the ptb…and riddance of those who will resist or not obey..

        draw downs of 20 k marines and 80 k army personnel

        estimated 260,000 private “contractors” now employed by the feds worldwide..

        So my question is this..given the info just stated,would the scenario of a smaller loyalist military along with with well paid private mercenary forces be able to pull off any town by town, city by city martial law?

        And let’s not dismiss all the dhs fbi tsa atf irs etc who are arming themselves to the teeth as well..
        dhs employs over 250 k alone
        atf employs over 5 k

        Then we have the drones as added contingents

        Your thoughts?

        possee

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        • possee says:

          and..let’s add in the u.n. and foreign troop scenario

          just for thought..

          possee

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          • Ghost Rider says:

            A little off topic; but has anyone else noticed the supply of ammo getting better? The big box stores are still basically empty but all of the smaller shops that I have been to over the weekend are almost full. And prices have stabilized.

            Also, does anyone know of a company that makes a 15rd AR mag? (5.56) I’m in a restricted state. 15 is the max. I can only find 10rd and 20rd mags online.

            Thanks,
            GR

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        • Possee,

          Very good points indeed, however the recent purge of top military Gens & troops is a huge mistake. My thought is now we have very well trained men that more then likley have a grudge to settle out there. Most of these men will likley join and train with state Militia. Now lets say they do take over a city or for that matter 10 or 15 cities how long will it take for the word to get out? And as far as drones go I have to look at the middle east, yes our men kicked some ass but we just pushed them back, we stopped nothing.
          Now add up all the ABC agency numbers and the foreign troop numbers and they still don’t come close to even the Vets of this country.
          If history has taught us anything about Americans it would have to be we are a Nation that would rather die on our feet,rather then live on our knee’s.
          Myself I’m not sure where it will all take us but I do know this, alot of men are headed out to their Bugouts this started a couple of weeks ago. At the moment DC seems to be empty of TPTB, heavy military equipment is being moved all over the country, to many drills are happening in the past 2 weeks. And all right before July 4th.
          These are the kind of things that make me say hmmmmmm.

          Keep your eyes open brother,

          CATIYMFs NOMI,

          DPS

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          • possee says:

            Thanks..

            Perhaps someone out there can re-verify with docs/pix/video of any unusual movements militarily …

            All my ex military friends and family are in our camp..thank God!

            Stay vigilant!
            DPS..

            possee

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    15. Jim in Va. says:

      Why does the most powerful country in the world need somebody else and Russia at that to take care of any national problem? Over 200 years we’ve been able to take care of our own! What is our president afraid of, that our military or National Guard would refuse to do so? Why is there no uproar over this from the other party or the press?

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      • Luther says:

        Jim in VA,Other countries have know loyalty to the Constitution and B.O.R. Why do you think they are wearing our troops out and keeping them overseas? In reference to the other party media question, well they are in on it, the media is basically state run and censored.

        As the tensioned grew prior to the Revolutionary War, well I now know how they felt just before the shooting started.

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        • Why do think that all the shit is now rising to the top…pu…Satan KNOWS his time is short and he is King of the shit pile.

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      • yental says:

        aaah, “Jim in Va.” ask the question that begs the answer. This isn’t a question of “need”…this is a “down payment” on what has already been promised/sold.

        LOCK-N-LOAD and don’t look back. WE are now tasked with the greatest burden in “this land” since 1776. If it looks like a fascist dictatorship, walks like a like a fascist dictatorship, and sounds like a fascist dictatorship…it is ARMED REVOLUTION, REVOLT, AND DEFENSE OF LIFE, LIBERTY, AND FAMILY!

        “To Arms”, is the historical admonition that appears quite relevant NOW!

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    16. If this in fact in true and not another Zionist propaganda ploy, foreign troops will get a special delivery if they show up during Martial Law. No red blooded American would put up with it. Come and get it! Although Bostonians would lick their boots.

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      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Shit Ike, they’ll be those Americans throwing flower pedals at the Russian’s feet.

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        • Them Guys says:

          luther: you got it backwards. State aint in control of Media here in usa. BOTH Media And State gov are Owned BY and Controlled By:

          “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we [the Jews] control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House.

          “You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America. In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” — Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

          Americans are not dumb- they have been insulated from the Truth by a Jewish Iron Curtain — Jewish controlled local/state/federal government and media…

          For those naysayers out there who think this is simply a new phenomenon — guess again.

          FLASHBACK ARTICLE ~1995…

          “Six Rothschild Zionist Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media

          Facts of Jewish Media Control – Electronic News & Entertainment Media

          The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner, is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed by a man described by one media analyst as a “control freak,” includes several television production companies (Walt Disney Television, Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television), its own cable network with 14 million subscribers, and two video production companies.

          As for feature films, the Walt Disney Picture Group, headed by Joe Roth (also a Jew), includes Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and Caravan Pictures.

          Disney also owns Miramax Films, run by the Weinstein brothers. When the Disney Company was run by the Gentile Disney family prior to its takeover by Eisner in 1984, it epitomized wholesome, family entertainment.

          While it still holds the rights to Snow White, under Eisner, the company has expanded into the production of graphic sex and violence. In addition, it has 225 affiliated stations in the United States and is part owner of several European TV companies.

          ABC’s cable subsidiary, ESPN, is headed by president and CEO Steven Bornstein, a Jew. This corporation also has a controlling share of Lifetime Television and the Arts & Entertainment Network cable companies.

          ABC Radio Network owns eleven AM and ten FM stations, again in major cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles, and has over 3,400 affiliates. Although primarily a telecommunications company, Capital Cities/ABC earned over $1 billion in publishing in 1994. It owns seven daily newspapers, Fairchild Publications, Chilton Publications, and the Diversified Publishing Group.

          Time Warner Inc., is the second of the international media leviathans. The chairman of the board and CEO, Gerald Levin, is a Jew. Time Warner’s subsidiary HBO is the country’s largest pay-TV cable network. Warner Music is by far the world’s largest record company, with 50 labels, the biggest of which is Warner Brothers Records, headed by Danny Goldberg.

          Stuart Hersch is president of Warnervision, Warner Music’s video production unit. Goldberg and Hersch are Jews. Warner Music was an early promoter of “gangsta rap.” Through its involvement with Interscope Records, it helped popularize a genre whose graphic lyrics explicitly urge Blacks to commit acts of violence against Whites.

          In addition to cable and music, Time Warner is heavily involved in the production of feature films (Warner Brothers Studio) and publishing.

          Time Warner’s publishing division (editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew) is the largest magazine publisher in the country (Time, Sports Illustrated, People, Fortune). When Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation.

          Turner made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV news network, CNN.

          Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and was regarded by Chairman William Paley (real name Palinsky, a Jew) and the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at some time in the future turn against them.

          Furthermore, Jewish newsman Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his former boss held a personal dislike for Jews.

          To block Turner’s bid, CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance, and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a “friendly” takeover of the company, and from 1986 till 1995 Tisch was the chairman and CEO of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there.

          Subsequent efforts by Turner to acquire a major network have been obstructed by Levin’s Time Warner, which owns nearly 20 percent of CBS stock and has veto power over major deals.

          Viacom Inc, headed by Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstein), a Jew, is the third largest megamedia corporation in the country, with revenues of over $10 billion a year. Viacom, which produces and distributes TV programs for the three largest networks, owns 12 television stations and 12 radio stations.

          It produces feature films through Paramount Pictures, headed by Jewess Sherry Lansing. Its publishing division includes Prentice Hall, Simon & Schuster, and Pocket Books. It distributes videos through over 4,000 Blockbuster stores. Viacom’s chief claim to fame, however, is as the world’s largest provider of cable programming, through its Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon, and other networks.

          Since 1989, MTV and Nickelodeon have acquired larger and larger shares of the younger television audience. With the top three, and by far the largest, media companies in the hand of Jews, it is difficult to believe that such an overwhelming degree of control came about without a deliberate, concerted effort on their part.

          What about the other big media companies?

          Number four on the list is Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation, which owns Fox Television and 20th Century Fox Films. Murdoch is a Gentile [however born to a Jewish mother, Elisabeth Greene - making him by Talmudic law, also a Jew], but Peter Chermin, who heads Murdoch’s film studio and also oversees his TV production, is a Jew.

          Number five is the Japanese Sony Corporation, whose U.S. subsidiary, Sony Corporation of America, is run by Michael Schulhof, a Jew. Alan Levine, another Jew, heads the Sony Pictures division.

          Most of the television and movie production companies that are not owned by the largest corporations are also controlled by Jews. For example, New World Entertainment, proclaimed by one media analyst as “the premiere independent TV program producer in the United States,” is owned by Ronald Perelman, a Jew.

          The best known of the smaller media companies, Dreamworks SKG, is a strictly kosher affair. Dream Works was formed in 1994 amid great media hype by recording industry mogul David Geffen, former Disney Pictures chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, and film director Steven Spielberg, all three of whom are Jews.

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          • Them Guys says:

            Like those, As Seen on TV ads…But WAIT! Theres MORE!

            Whoever Controls the BANKS/MONEY and MSM’s Controls it ALL! Especially ELECTIONS!

            The company produces movies, animated films, television programs, and recorded music.

            Two other large production companies, MCA and Universal Pictures, are both owned by Seagram Company, Ltd. The president and CEO of Seagram, the liquor giant, is Edgar Bronfman Jr., who is also president of the World Jewish Congress.

            It is well known that Jews have controlled the production and distribution of films since the inception of the movie industry in the early decades of the 20th century. This is still the case today.

            Films produced by just the five largest motion picture companies mentioned above — Disney, Warner Brothers, Sony, Paramount (Viacom), and Universal (Seagram) — accounted for 74 per cent of the total box-office receipts for the first eight months of 1995.

            The big three in television network broadcasting used to be ABC, CBS, and NBC. With the consolidation of the media empires, these three are no longer independent entities.

            While they were independent, however, each was controlled by a Jew since its inception: ABC by Leonard Goldenson, CBS first by William Paley and then by Lawrence Tisch, and NBC first by David Sarnoff and then by his son Robert.

            Over periods of several decades, these networks were staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and the essential Jewishness of network television did not change when the networks were absorbed by other corporations.

            The Jewish presence in television news remains particularly strong. As noted, ABC is part of Eisner’s Disney Company, and the executive producers of ABC’s news programs are all Jews: Victor Neufeld (20-20), Bob Reichbloom (Good Morning America), and Rick Kaplan (World News Tonight).

            CBS was recently purchased by Westinghouse Electric Corporation.

            Nevertheless, the man appointed by Lawrence Tisch, Eric Ober, remains president of CBS News, and Ober is a Jew.

            At NBC, now owned by General Electric, NBC News president Andrew Lack is a Jew, as are executive producers Jeff Zucker (Today), Jeff Gralnick (NBC Nightly News), and Neal Shapiro (Dateline).

            The Print Media after television news, daily newspapers are the most influential information medium in America. Sixty million of them are sold (and presumably read) each day. These millions are divided among some 1,500 different publications.

            One might conclude that the sheer number of different newspapers across America would provide a safeguard against Jewish control and distortion. However, this is not the case.

            There is less independence, less competition, and much less representation of our interests than a casual observer would think. The days when most cities and even towns had several independently owned newspapers published by local people with close ties to the community are gone.

            Today, most “local” newspapers are owned by a rather small number of large companies controlled by executives who live and work hundreds or even thousands of miles away. The fact is that only about 25 per cent of the country’s 1,500 papers are independently owned; the rest belong to multi-newspaper chains.

            Only a handful are large enough to maintain independent reporting staffs outside their own communities; the rest depend on these few for all of their national and international news.

            The Newhouse empire of Jewish brothers Samuel and Donald Newhouse provides an example of more than the lack of real competition among America’s daily newspapers: it also illustrates the insatiable appetite Jews have shown for all the organs of opinion control on which they could fasten their grip.

            The Newhouses own 26 daily newspapers, including several large and important ones, such as the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans Times-Picayune; the nation’s largest trade book publishing conglomerate, Random House, with all its subsidiaries; Newhouse Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television broadcasting stations and 87 cable-TV systems, including some of the country’s largest cable networks; the Sunday supplement Parade, with a circulation of more than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen major magazines, including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madmoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair, Bride’s, Gentlemen’s Quarterly, Self, House & Garden, and all the other magazines of the wholly owned Conde Nast group.

            This Jewish media empire was founded by the late Samuel Newhouse, an immigrant from Russia.

            The gobbling up of so many newspapers by the Newhouse family was in large degree made possible by the fact that newspapers are not supported by their subscribers, but by their advertisers. It is advertising revenue — not the small change collected from a newspaper’s readers — that largely pays the editor’s salary and yields the owner’s profit.

            WHEN They Fisrt Got Hold of Newspapers, in early 1900′s, They also Owned PAPER-Mills And INK Maker Co’s! SO…Any newspaper atempting to THWART Jewish Control, was Cut OFF from buying Paper And INK! as well as LOSS of ALL Ad’s most Piad by Jew co ownership!

            Some folks Complain “Why Blame Jews so often?” GEE! LOOK WHO Owns ALL MSM and MOST all Other Forms of INFO and Govnt too! Who Should be Blamed? My Dead Sibierian Husky Dog Perhaps?!!!

            Whenever the large advertisers in a city choose to favor one newspaper over another with their business, the favored newspaper will flourish while its competitor dies.

            Since the beginning of the 20th century, when Jewish mercantile power in America became a dominant economic force, there has been a steady rise in the number of American newspapers in Jewish hands, accompanied by a steady decline in the number of competing Gentile newspapers–primarily as a result of selective [discriminatory] advertising policies by Jewish merchants.

            Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising revenue that their editorial and news reporting policies are largely constrained by Jewish likes and dislikes. It holds true in the newspaper business as elsewhere that he who pays the piper calls the tune.

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            • Them Guys says:

              The suppression of competition and the establishment of local monopolies on the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized the rise of Jewish control over America’s newspapers.

              The resulting ability of the Jews to use the press as an unopposed instrument of Jewish policy could hardly be better illustrated than by the examples of the nation’s three most prestigious and influential newspapers: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post.

              These three, dominating America’s financial and political capitals, are the newspapers which set the trends and the guidelines for nearly all the others. They are the ones which decide what is news and what isn’t, at the national and international levels.

              They originate the news; the others merely copy it, and all three newspapers are in Jewish hands.

              Other Mass Media

              The story is pretty much the same for other media as it is for television, radio, and newspapers. Consider, for example, newsmagazines.

              There are only three of any note published in the United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News and World Report. Time, with a weekly circulation of 4.1 million, is published by a subsidiary of Time Warner Communications.

              The CEO of Time Warner Communications, as mentioned above, is Gerald Levin, a Jew. Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington Post Company, under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham. Its weekly circulation is 3.2 million. (this info is from 1995-since then newsweek switched hands to EX kalif Congress Woman Jane Harmon! also jewish.)

              U.S. News & World Report, with a weekly circulation of 2.3 million, is owned and published by Mortimer Zuckerman, a Jew. Zuckerman also owns the Atlantic Monthly and New York’s tabloid newspaper, the Daily News, which is the sixth-largest paper in the country. Among the giant book-publishing conglomerates, the situation is also Jewish.

              Three of the six largest book publishers in the U.S., according to Publisher’s Weekly, are owned or controlled by Jews. The three are first-place Random House (with its many subsidiaries, including Crown Publishing Group), third-place Simon & Schuster, and sixth-place Time Warner Trade Group (including Warner Books and Little, Brown).

              Another publisher of special significance is Western Publishing. Although it ranks only 13th in size among all U.S. publishers, it ranks first among publishers of children’s books, with more than 50 percent of the market. Its chairman and CEO is Richard Snyder, a Jew, who just replaced Richard Bernstein, also a Jew.

              The Effect of Jewish Control of the Media

              These are the facts of Jewish media control in America. Anyone willing to spend several hours in a large library can verify their accuracy.

              I hope that these facts are disturbing to you, to say the least. Should any minority be allowed to wield such awesome power?

              Certainly not, and allowing a people with beliefs such as expressed in the Talmud, to determine what we get to read or watch in effect gives this small minority the power to mold our minds to suit their own Talmudic interests, interests which as we have demonstrated are diametrically opposed to the interests of our people.

              GOT CHILDREN?

              By permitting the Jews to control our news and entertainment media, we are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children, whose attitudes and ideas are shaped more by Jewish television and Jewish films than by their parents, their schools, or any other influence.”

              THINK FOX TV NEWS Is EXEMPT? Wrong!

              Fox News is still owned by Rupert Murdoch, who you may remember claims to be gentile, even though he was born to a Jewish mother- Elisabeth Greene, which of course would make him a Jew by Talmudic law.

              Wake Up America…Especially You WHITEYS! 1.5 % of the USA Population, Entirely Controls and Dictates Your Nations Policy AND it’s Elected Officials at nearly Every Level!

              2-Minits to-Midnite! Equals: BOOT-EM Time by My Clock!

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              • Anonymous says:

                Them guys…you may want to consider giving credit to the website that this info came from….just sayin!

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                • Them Guys says:

                  Anonamous: Actually it was a persons comment post at another site. That site is www realjewnews dot com

                  It is from a Recent article there which are listed at that site www address. Read them All as all have very great info. With plenty of links and documentation for it all to. Hope this assists you.

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      • NOTE: to everyone who posted here showing how the Zionist control the world.

        JESUS SAID HE WOULD DESTROY THE COVERING THAT WAS CAST OVER THE NATIONS, THE COVERING THAT DECEIVED THEM. I BELIEVE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH ALL THESE POSTS. WELL DONE!

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        • Them Guys says:

          Ike: I agree. There is a verse in the new test, that basically says “All things Done in the Dark and all things wispered behind closed doors in secret Shall in the Last days be Revealed. And shall be Shouted from every Rooftop!” Not a verbatim quote but from memory.

          I have said it prior I believe we are seeing that prophecy occuring Today in Our time. It began aprox a decade ago for Most folks and websites. I myself awoke 40+ yrs ago. But I Only in last decade became “jew-wise”.

          And regardless how much I learned or figured out from reading Revelations etc…The Main puzzle piece, the Main Key and Linchpin to it ALL is not known untill you get Jew wise. Then it ALL comes together. Its like the Missing “Link” to the puzzles.

          And except for the “good ones” whoever they are, there is zero differece between zionist-bolshevik-jewish.

          Its akin to Liberal dems. Every posible type is contained within the Dem party. But…When it counts…They ALL become as ONE. So does those I mentioned prior.

          I sincerally do hope we have Many Many good patriot jewish folks in the usa. But so far have No idea how to tell beforehand. If I go by History as in Learn from history so do not make same mistakes again?

          Well history Proves so far anyways, not many so called ‘good” ones existed in Past events for the last 2000-3000 yrs. I do Hope this time it is dofferent as we need all the help we can get.

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    17. Kulafarmer says:

      If any foreign or domestic troops are threatening us in any way its time to take to the trees and kill everything that moves that wears a helmet or doesnt appear friendly,

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      • Luther says:

        OK guys we have been hearing this for the last 4+ years and now it is coming to light. Time to get your game faces on!

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        • OutWest says:

          Kula & Luther

          I’ve dropped the gloves and now tell it like it is.
          I’m not winning any green thumb popularity contests
          with our more gentle readers, but there are certain
          things that must be said.

          The bald-assed fact is that our military will fire
          on not only armed patriots but unarmed citizens as
          well.

          The Kent State Massacre in 1970 by the Ohio National
          Guard set a precedent for the shooting of unarmed
          protesting students, and should ever be a reminder that
          when it comes down to them or us, it will be us.

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          • PO'd Patriot says:

            OW, Amen! Tell it like it is!

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            • John Q. Public says:

              Watch the FLIR video of the last hour at Waco. The FLIR footage was an unusual video format, so it was not seen in the survivors’ trials or at the Congressional whitewash “hearings.” The video proves that the official government story was utter manure.

              US soldiers drove tanks, started the fire at Waco, and machine-gunned men, women, and children who attempted to flee their burning home. See it yourself in the video.

              Don’t kid yourself about what they won’t do.

              Waco: A New Revelation

              http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/waco-a-new-revelation/

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              • John Q: thanks for the reminder…we have short memories…great refresher! Notice the cool dual citizen ‘Chucky shithead Schumer’ abrogate all of the Constitution in favor of slaughter of innocents. The Israeli dual citizens want to kill, steal and destroy all the goodness America stands for! Clearly shows how they will deal with patriots…you CANNNOT reason with snakes as Schneider clearly showed. There is no middle ground!

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              • John Q: even worse go to this link..

                http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/30/dhs-secret-assassination-squads/

                Check out video “Jews Panic over Internet Response” it clearly shows how they take everything we say about them and turn it on its head. Clearly they are propaganda specialist crapping in the minds of the ignorant and unlearned. Nowhere will we find Jews addressing any truth, because the Truth is not in them, anyone who points out their sins is an ‘antisemite’. They are only interested in propagating lies and deceptions. America is a target because they are waking up, along with the rest of the world, to the COVERING THEY HAVE CAST OVER THE NATIONS, now they will pull out their dirty tricks book to use every conceivable deceit to destroy us. May God stop them this time because this time they want the whole enchilada…the world and we are to serve (worship an endorse) their diabolical infernal God Lucifer! They want for America what they wanted for Russia, China, Germany total destruction of all of our Christian heritage which they hate with all their being! We are the only ones who stand in the way of this total demonic hegemony of Jewish hell. If you took away all the money they steal and isolated them they could not survive, they would eat each other in their despotic hell hole. They will always resist truth and destroy the host they parasitically exist on. Love to them is a four-letter curse word. Love your own and fu#$ your neighbor. Jesus Christ had them pegged, Synagogue of Satan and their stench will remain with them forever.

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          • JayJay says:

            Wrong from this reader’s thinking, Outwest—THIS AIN’T THE DAMNED 70S!! ;-)

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            • OutWest says:

              Gentle reader JayJay

              I don’t defend my statements… BUT…

              Unless you have been cloistered in a nunnery,

              or just too young to remember,

              the chaotic circumstances of today are several

              magnitudes greater than they were in the 70s.

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          • SD Mule says:

            OutWest,

            You are correct!!!

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            • JayJay says:

              I remember that incident well.
              I’m just saying we can’t compare apples and oranges here.
              Times have changed. The American Public do not trust LE agencies, the military, and especially the lawmakers ;-) .

              Of course, Boston sheeple can’t be used here as an example..we know how that turned out after that bombing incident with thugs entering homes.

              We may just get to see how we all react soon…Maranatha!!!

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              • I did not expect to see Bostonians pulling guns on the police but I did expect to see some angry mofos telling them to go to hell. This is why I post and say they are loosers! We all know we have to choose our battles and we will know when its time…but to cheer and lay down like a whore while they molest you and yours is unforgivable for a free people!

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            @OutWest
            Keep it real, after watching contact videos from around the country I have no doubt that you are correct,
            Keep away from crowds, escape and evade, all i know is were screwed if armed soldiers are walking our neighborhoods.

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          • Luther says:

            No red thumb from me, as in other discussions about this subject, our troops will fire on US citizens, well we won’t know the percentage until it happens.

            I do know that I have been guaranteed by many active duty that those who fire better look behind them.

            Again will they, most likely. How many? I guess we’ll find out.

            Those who fires on the citizens are the enemy, regardless of their nationality. The possible choices we as a people will face I would never wish on anyone.

            God give me strength

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            • Larry in Mt. says:

              Some time back, I was informed that the local commander of the Nat’l Guard troops told his men “Any civillians
              who take up arms are dead meat!” About this same time, The Air Nat-Guard wing was being re-configured for “ground attack” rather than “air defense”, and the small engeneer unit was backed up with armored infantry that were practicing home invasion taciics. Their tanks and APC’s were quietly slipped out, one at a time, and re armed with launchers for pyrotechnics and other “crowd suppression ” equipment. All this was prior to Y2K! In short, don’t look to our military for help.

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              • Boe Jiden says:

                Yes, I’m sure the military that obama has crapped on ever chance he has had will blindly follow him in suppressing the American citizenry.

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        • PO'd Patriot says:

          Si’

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        • Tucker says:

          Those tanks are not going to be easy to deal with, when John Q. Public is armed only with small arms.

          And, with all those armored vehicles having long range electronic communications capabilities – they will be able to call in helicopter gunships, if they ever do find themselves in a tight spot versus a rag tag group of patriots.

          One thing about all that armor, though. They always eventually run out of gas and need to be resupplied. Mileage per gallon is probably less than 10 mpg. So, it would be important to locate the refueling tankers and see what can be done about them.

          Just pondering.

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          • roger says:

            thermite on the parked, out of gas, armored vehicles.

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            • Tucker says:

              I wonder what the screams will sound like from the treasonous, anti-American, anti-Constitution, anti-freedom collection of rat faced merc-turds who’re inside that burning armored vehicle who have been murdering their fellow citizens at the bequest of Satan and his crumb crunchers, once they finally run out of gas and are stuck in a spot where the Grim Reaper pays them a visit?

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              • Slick One says:

                I wonder how long it takes to roast out the occupants of an armored vehicle with molotov coctails? How many coctails are needed to insure proper roastage?

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                • Tucker says:

                  Here the ISBN # for a book by Ragnar Benson that discusses this topic: 1-55950-143-X

                  Costs about $17, last I checked. Needs to be in every patriot’s library.

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      • lastmanstanding says:

        …and let God sort it out.

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      • …and anything we notice licking their boots and kissing their backsides…might as well clean up all the mess at once.

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    18. braveheart says:

      DPS, excellent points and I totally agree. Be Informed, good afternoon, and once again you’re right on target. Whenever ANY foreign troops appear in this country, and I don’t care WHERE they’re from, THEY ARE INVADERS AND MUST BE TREATED AS SUCH. NONE OF US WILL HAVE ANY OBLIGATIONS TO ANY FOREIGN TROOPS WHATSOEVER. IT WILL BE GAME ON! If any foreigners try to force their way into my home I will treat them the same way I would any American home invader; YOU WILL DIE! Nobody asked we the people if we would accept foreign troops here for any purpose. This is only one more example of an evil regime with some of the worst intentions imaginable toward us. There’s no legitimate basis for anything they do and this latest monstrosity is no exception. just like everyone else here, I don’t recognize it as legitimate and I will fight it. This fits right in with the Army’s recent announcement that they’re laying off 80,000 people due to the budget cuts. F#$% the US government and F#$% any foreign troops who come in. I hope they’re bringing plenty of bodybags…..FOR THEMSELVES! NOMI CATIMF BRAVEHEART

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      • CelticNana says:

        At the beginning of WWII, when England stood alone and faced the real prospect of invasion, Winston Churchill’s daughter-in-law, understandably in a bit of a panic, asked him what they as civilians could do if the Nazis landed. He replied “You can always go into the kitchen, get a knife, and take a few with you.” It’s coming closer every day, from many places and causes. Misneach, Fianna.

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        • Them Guys says:

          Celtic: Churchills DIL would never need ask that question if England didn’t First do 1/2 Dozen Carpet Bombings On german cities to Provoke war. Then again if war against germany was not first Declared in, 1933-By International Judaism….Perhaps england would’nt have had to be israels bitch, like usa is today eh. Hopefully Now in,2013 usa fed gov will tell the israelies and zio banksters to fight their Own wars since they are who keep causing wars so often.

          Mossad Slogan inscribed above israel mossad buildg entrance….translated to English from heberw is…”Thru Deception We Shall Cause Wars”

          Christs Slogan about them zios= John Ch 8 vs 44 and Rev ch 2 vs 9.

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          • My exact thoughts too. Dresden!!!! Asshole Churchill deserved every rocket they put up their ass. They caused and promoted WWII. Wake up people! The chicken shit Zionist Israelis will never fight for themselves, hell they can’t wipe their own ass. They can bully the weak that is all they are good for. Pissants that sneak around in the dark so no one sees them! Definition of a scoundrel and murderer Netanmolehole. History will record exactly what God labelled them as Whore!

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          • Anonymous says:

            “Mossad Slogan inscribed above israel mossad buildg entrance….translated to English from heberw is…”Thru Deception We Shall Cause Wars””

            So, could you quote a link to back that up?

            Or is it something you heard from a friend who has a friend who knows somebody?

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            • durango kidd says:

              My understanding of the Mossad motto is: “Through deception we shall WAGE war.”

              Which was never more effective than at 911.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Anonymous: I cannot always recall every website I read info from. Can You? NO. Nobody can.

              Seems you either doubt my info, or are just too Lazy to do Your Own homework and Research. Also I do not like to add a hyper link as it suspends my post reply in moderation. And I usually type it out manually. Thats a pain in the ass to do sometimes if a long link.

              If I had to bet on it I’d say most likly You doubt my info and if so? Then to post a link is a waste anyways usually. Its always doubters or naysayers who rejct going to see proof at a provided link, as they rather remain in Blind obedience to pre concieved notions or fantasy.

              Research it yourself see its real. Or do not. Your loss.

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    19. California Resident says:

      A quote from ‘Francis Sawyer’ of ‘STRIPES’ fame:

      “All I know is that I finally get to kill somebody.”

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    20. swampratt says:

      LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE FIRST RUSSIAN PIG TO ENTER MY HOUSE WILL BE GIVIN A GIFT ITS A Z-MAXX HOLLOW POINT
      HAVR A BOX FOR A SPEICAL OCCASION THIS COULD BE IT

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        The first through my door gets a custom machined 300g .50 cal stainless steel armor piercing slug fired out of my mossberg 590A1 @1740 FPS, kicks like a sob but goes right through type VI armor plates. Made 100 of them for special occasions, fit perfect in a BP RSS sabbot with blue dot in a 3″ shell.

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        • OutWest says:

          Kula

          That load could probably take out
          a half dozen howlies with one shot,
          just for practice and fun.

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            Well it goes right through a plate carrier wrapped around a log at 30 yds, all the way through and keeps going, has something to do with that pointy steel projectile i think, or maybe that slightly over pressure load? Or maybe both.

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            • MayBeSo says:

              YOU “GUYS” will probably get a KICK out of this…

              !! LIVE from the the Late Night Radio Network!!…ongoing tales from Uncle Fuck-em-up’s “Historical Archives of Interesting Things”!

              Howdy Y’All!!

              Hmmm, having Russian/NWO ‘problems? Remember them’s folks ALWAYS likes ‘Helicopters’ (Rotary Wing Aircraft)…got a pesky swarm of them things flyin’ around?…No PROBLEM….’Uncle’ HAS your ANSWERS!

              Here it is!…get a 10 ft piece (a ‘joint’) of 4 inch “HEAVY WALL” STEEL electrical conduit (MOT the light stuff…instead, the kind with threads ‘tapped’ on both ends…Yep, the REALLY HEAVY DUTY stuff!), a couple of pounds of black powder, 30 feet of decent 1/4 inch cable (steel-core, at least…none of that silly aluminum stuff!), and a couple of REAL heavy (ocean-type) down-rigger weights…the heavier…the better.

              Cap one end of the ‘Heavy Wall’ conduit, toss in a couple of pounds of the ‘black stuff’ and after attaching the two downrigger weights to the ends of the cable shove that down the bore (it helps to push a piece of flat, heavy cardboard down the tube to act as a ‘wad’…just like in your shotgun). Drill a hole to allow you to ‘fuze’ the affair and BINGO you have something that will take any rotary wing aircraft in your vicinity out REAL well!…think ‘Shotgun on steroids’ here…

              350 years ago THIS was called ‘chain-shot’…it used to be used to ‘de-mast’ sailing ahips when shot from cannons…then, they simply placed a length of chain between two smaller canon balls and fired the whole thing … kinda worked like a high peed ‘bolo’ like they use in South America, to this day. Gee…can you immagine the MESS that some STEEL cable would cause in the ROTORS of a helipcopter..or anything ELSE that goes ’round and round’?

              Well, that’s all for today boyz and gurlz…stay tuned for the NEXT episode of Uncle Fuck-em-ups ‘Wierd History’ where we’ll talk about how those BAD Germans ued to take out “Allied aircraft” with abrasice wire attached to the bottoms of lil bitty rockets…sawed them wings RIGHT OFF of our boys planes when they flew through ‘em!! BAD ‘OL GERMANS!!!

              MF’s want a WAR they cannot WIN?…Bring it ON, Puh-leaze!…there’ a MIILION things EXACTLY like this that would bring all thier ‘High-tech toys’ to ground-level REAL QUICK… THINK about it….

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        • slingshot says:

          Kulafarmer.

          Would advise not shooting that load thru anything but a cylinder bore. Don’t mix them up by mistake if you have other shotguns. Bad ass shit there now.

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    21. Kharkov says:

      Notice how Obama’s handshake is under-handed to Putin’s being on top. In body language terms this indicates Putin is the more dominant/aggressive of the two men. Limp-wristed Obama is exhibiting his total inferiority for all to see.

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      • Brane Frees says:

        I get the impression from the photo that Obama is also preparing to bend down and kiss the back of Putin’s hand.

        No doubt followed by something spoken – along the lines of, “Welcome, Your Grace”.

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      • Tucker says:

        I wonder why Putin didn’t remember to wear that Super Bowl ring he ‘borrowed’ (ha, ha) off of the NE Patriot’s owner, just so he could rub a little salt in the wound?

        Incidentally, after the plundering and raping job done on Russia by the tribe Kraft belongs to, I thought it was pretty funny when Putin swiped the ring. Probably his way of getting a little payback.

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      • sixpack says:

        I’ll bet the pretender-in-chief salutes with his palm forward too.

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      • BigB says:

        What I saw Kharkov was that Putin was disgusted at the very thought of having to shake Obama’s hand. There are no black people in Russia and there are no black people in China. Both of those countries look at black people as un-educated, uncouth, dirty African animals one step below that of what they consider to be human.

        That we elected a black man as a president sent a message to the world that there is something very, very wrong in America. Not trying to sound like a racist as am really not but do know how the rest of the world percieves us.

        BigB

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        • Them Guys says:

          BigB: I heard there are a few guys in Northern Mich who agrees 100% with rest of worlds perceptions, as well as Putins about Berry Soetero Imposter in chiefboy. They aint no racists neither. Just Wide awake whiteys!

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        • BigB, from where I stand you sure sound like a racist. Drop the innuendos, they profit nothing in this fight! All races have their prejudices, but God is colorblind and looks on the heart! Obomination has done plenty of wicked deeds, color has nothing to do with it. You know it, I know it. Just look at all the American Presidents, only one or two were outstanding patriots and Christians. Obama is a puppet like the rest fulfilling his role in the NWO mix (divide and conquer-bring division and chaos). Even the black people who say terrible things about whitey don’t know what they are doing…they have been programmed by the likes of Sharpton and Jackson and used by the NAACP. Some black men are trying to educate these but as in our case it is an uphill struggle. Blacks have gotten the short end of the stick, but that still does not excuse evil thinking or deeds, black or white. Opportunities lost. We need to rightly divide between sheep and goats just as Jesus will do. We do not need to alienate a black neighbor who will stand with us by being a mouthy bigot. That also goes for any race and includes Jews who really know the score and know what Zionist have done to their people. Love will cover a multitude of sins, who is my neighbor he asked Jesus?…If we have judgment without mercy, shall we receive mercy of the Lord? Jesus said we will give account for every IDLE WORD we speak. The words we speak are weighted, let us take care and let us filter our speech through the Holy Ghost.

          Sorry for the length of this post.

          Luk 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
          Luk 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
          Luk 10:32 And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side.
          Luk 10:33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
          Luk 10:34 And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
          Luk 10:35 And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said unto him, Take care of him; and whatsoever thou spendest more, when I come again, I will repay thee.
          Luk 10:36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
          Luk 10:37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, GO AND DO THOU LIKEWISE.

          Race means nothing. If you are a white supremacist, oh well. Hate is a heavy burden to carry without a righteous reason. Equating black with bad and antichrist is foolish. This will tend to doing evil when the SHTF. Hating blacks would be akin to Jesus hating Samaritans and sinners, he did not! I can say no more but your sin will find you out. You will see every race and nationality in the Kingdom of God! If your ignorant so be it.

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          • BigB says:

            Heck of a reply there Ike. Not one fact to ack up what you said or to refute what I said other than a bunch of bible quotes.

            You just ignore the fact that the Russians and the Chinese hate and do not tolerae blacks in thier countries. Another blind bible thumping liberal trying to act as a conservative.

            BigB

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            • BigB: hohum, sometimes God’s Word fall on deaf ears. God thanks for telling me what good guys the commie bastards are who hate blacks…your a true racist bigot! Your words betray you. I guess next you will tell what good guy the commies are because they hate Christians…go pound sand dude!

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    22. braveheart says:

      Mac, your figures are correct, but the ammo shortage fits right in with this. If foreign troops show up in my area, and once the shooting starts, weapons, ammo, and other equipment will almost immediately become available. I’ll take all I can from the enemy to supplement what I already have and I would recommend everyone else do the same. NOMI CATIMF BRAVEHEART

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    23. Canadian Vet says:

      Christ, between James Wesley Rawles and Harold A. Covington, the situation has been predicted almost to a T.

      Foreign troops on US soil will mean hell for me on my side of the border too. No offence, but I’m not particularly inclined to have a sea of refugees in my backyard. And truth be told I’m fairly certain that if the roles were reversed, you my fine American friends would say the same.

      If anything, I hope there will remain enough troops in the US forces with their weapons, ammunition, vehicles and leadership to stand up to that. I know that on my side, if Gen. (Ret’d) Hilier was to ask us in the Canadian Armed Forces to stand behind him, there would be thousands who would do so in a heartbeat. However, I would expect it would be mostly unit commanders who will form the backbone of that resistance leadership, not the generals appointed by Obama.

      And it would not surprise me to see hundreds if not thousands of US soldiers ditch the uniforms and take to the bush in section and platoon strength detachments. We in the Western militaries have just spent years fighting a vicious counterinsurgency. That would make anyone with outside the wire experience one hell of a dangerous enemy to anyone relying on conventional tactics, positional warfare or even ballsy enough to use the roads outside major centres.

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      • dave says:

        @ Canadaian Vet…You are going to have enough problems in Canada. They are there too. Probably among your mounted police. Like the ones that broke into the homes north of me that were flooded, and stole all the firearms. Of course they said the owners will get them back after proof of ownership is verified…..in 10-20 years. (I made up the 10-20 year part)

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    24. fatty says:

      Start busting out the pushups, crunches, pull-ups and run times.

      I wish only the best for our brothers and sisters willing to stand in the 3%. I pray it should not come to anything violent. I want to see my son grow up. But I would rather leave him a beautiful corpse for him to look down upon rather than not have the ability to do what might be needed to be done, so he may find his future wife and have a chance to enjoy what many got to take for granted.

      I pray its only stupidity running this country and not evil impulses. We all know it can’t be both.

      I pray for all here on this site, whether we agree or not, for the best of any/all future situations, and the courage to see it through.

      I know my weaknesses, know yours.

      They say every obstacle in life is there to prep you for the next one. I’ve been on borrowed time since 2005 after beating cancer. I knew after that, whatever awaited me would only be worse.

      I couldn’t be any more sincere in anything I’ve posted here as I am right now.

      May we live in interesting times now so our children don’t have to later.

      It’s been great taking everyones advice, the debates, fact finding ,just everything. Please keep it up.

      Fatty
      USMC 0341 00-04

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      • Pray hard, but train harder. God takes care of those who exercise initiative.

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        • Them Guys says:

          What I fear Most is some ex military vet with not long left to live and he Knows it, may get pissed enough, to convince a bunch of Others in same boat he’s in to begin walking up to MANY corrupt polititions…Like for example, Jezebel Finswine and her pal schtumer and just stick a .44 Mag in their faces and blow their heads out.

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          • All we have at the moment is the element of surprise.
            The federal government thinks that everything is going
            according to their own timeline, whatever that may be.
            They set the proverbial rules of engagement based on this
            timeline.

            Change the timeline, and you change the rules. Change the rules and you change the nature of the battle.

            So yes, someone has to shoot first. We can only hope that the first shots are well placed and targeted to have maximum damage on the organizational efficiency of the enemy. For example, which would have a bigger impact on an eventual civil war, killing Feinshit or Kissinger?
            Feinshit’s death would have a deep psychological impact and would yield a strong political advantage, giving pause, and standing as notice to others who are on the fence. The death of Kissinger on the other hand would mean the loss of a key strongman/adviser to the global oligarchs. This would strike a blow to various iron triangles and international interests bent on mass murder for profit. There is pros and cons for the death of both of these individuals.

            And *that* is why there can be no uncertainty in decisions, no half measures.

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      • Night breaker says:

        Fatty
        Semper Fi brother!

        Semper Fi 8541

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      • JustAnotherBubba says:

        I started hitting the staircase down to the river a couple of weeks ago. It’s 235 steps down and I climb back up two at a time. At 57 I can feel it and it’s been 10 years since I was in good enough shape to climb Mt. Ranier.
        There are still a few of us “dangerous old men” who will get back in shape and show the invaders what fortitude really is. The time for sitting around is over. ACT NOW.

        We will be the III.

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    25. EastsideJoe says:

      Decisions, decisions, decisions. Now I have to decide which local funeral home to call to haul away dead Russian/U.N. bodies from my front yard! Nice blue helmet dude, sorry it’s got a bullet hole in it!

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    26. moonlanding says:

      The Chinese had to get Tibetan soilders to fire on the Chinese protesters in Tianamen Square, cause the Chinese People’s Army wouldn’t do it, which is why it took 4 days to break it up.

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    27. Watchman says:

      Well here we go. The PTB, elitist or whatever you choose to call them on this rock, know all too well what is coming. That is not so much of an economy collapse, world war, germs or whatever. What is coming are the most catastrophic natural events known to man so far, these events will leave millions dead and the whole earth in ruins. Massive earth quakes all over the earth everywhere one on top of the other. Tsunami’s devastating the coasts, and then comes the diseases. No it’s not like the movie 2012.
      The reason the PTB are buying PM’s, robbing the people’s wealth, can be summed up in one word GREED. This way when they are nice and safe in their bunkers, all they have to do is look at their bottom line, and all is well with them. Little do they really know.

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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      • dave says:

        So Watchman, By your above comment, I see you have read about planet X and wormwood. I would guess you have also seen the “US Navy map” of the USA.

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      • I imagine a nice little earthquake could rock their hidey holes. May also make them impossible to get back out of. Can you imagine, they might even end up eating each other.

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      • sheptical citizen says:

        Its quite apparent that something is up with the planet. The poles are indeed shifting. We are seeing the Northern lights here in Arkansas that enough proof of pole shift. There are lots of earthquakes ,volcanic eruptions & myrad clatyclismic disasters. These events are increasing in frequecy & magnitude. Those in goverment & the UN -NWO know something big is coming. Their bunkers could just as easily be their tombs. Myself I would prefer a great clatyclism to a revolution in the USA. Say for instance we have a revolt and the citizens win . What then? What kind of goverment will we have? Woul the guarntees & protection in the counstition still be in effect? Would be still be a republic or a mob rule democracy? It could easily be much worse than what we have at present. I check the Extinction Protocol website daily it has lots of info about the ongoing earth changes .

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    28. buzzfix says:

      I’m honored to know all of you and more are out there. God Bless! The time of the ghost army to appear is nearing. The breeze of death shall be blown upon the multitudes of evil that dare set foot on the soil of the free.

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    29. MayBeSo says:

      As I said before,

      The DAY that ‘THEY show-up here…the skinning and filleting knives COME OUT. I don’t care about ‘Spetz-anyhting’ let em, try something in our neck of the woods and just SEE what happens.

      Think a 338 Lapua is “Bad-Assed”? Go look up a Weatherby 338-378. A 338 RUM has 112 grains of powder driving the bullet…a 338 Lapua has 122 grains,

      …a 338-378 has 138 grains driving the lead…I can get em in the next COUNTY, push come to shove, after which I’ll happily SKIN them ALIVE…wouldn’t do that to a ‘fellow American’ but wouldn’t hesitate to do so to any foreign soldiers ‘appearing’ here…for ANY military reason. Just sayin… :)

      NWO troops?…Russians?…come on IN boyz…it’s gonna be a PARTY, I GUARANTEE. Oh, and any of those who show up here DO need to leave a ‘home address’ for us when they arrive…so we’ll know WHERE to ship the tanned hides back to…..your family’ would probably like to have some of your ‘remains’, it’ only polite. We ARE ‘civilized Americans’, after all.

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      • JayJay says:

        What’s that saying..’some shoot and some dig’? :-)

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      • dave says:

        MayBeSo. Sit down before I shock you and you turn green with envy….. I have a 35 NEWTON…and reloading dies. 5000flbs of energy at your door.

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        • MayBeSo says:

          Repectable indeed!

          FWIW, 250 gr partition, with a a manufacturer’s load of 125 gr of powder through 26 inches of barrel yields 5170 ft *lbs and 3072 ft*sec. IF you proceed to the 300 gr Lapua ‘Scenar’ with a full complemet of powder you get (via Nosler figures) 5808 ft*lbs with an MV of 3027 ft*sec.

          Like I said…that’ll get ‘em in the NEXT county, if neccesary! Happy Hunting Y’All…if they COME. :) Bt still that’s just piddlin; look up the 408 CheyTac or BADEST of the BAD, the Barret 416…the bullets used there allow for mzzle energy’s ALMOST 9,000 ft*lbs (396 gr bullet, 200 gr powder, 3150 ft*sec muzzle) outshoots a 50 BMG as the ptojectile are of the “Ultra-low-drag” type. Specifically, the monometal bullets are far more accurate at range than the corresponding offerings in the 50 cal…food WAY past 2000 meters…talk about SCARY!

          Oh purty pleeze Santa!…all I want for XMass is a Barret 416!!!…with a 30 inch fluted Barrel….and a NightForce B E A S T to mount on top!! And Yes…I DO realize that the disease at work here IS ‘Tim Allen-itis’…

          ;)

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          • Larry in Mt. says:

            My 50 BMG bolt action 6 shot repeater will put 3 639 gr. blue tip armor piercing incendiaries into 1.5 inches at 300 yds. With some 12000 ft/lps of energy it is a force to be reconed with.
            BTW. I am learning Russian. The first words I learned were ” STOY! (HALT!) SHTO (WHAT) B’wah (DO YOU) Z’DIS?
            (HERE?) That’s just a transliteration, ’cause I can’t print the russian characters here, but you get the idea.

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            • dave says:

              @ Larry…Im just across the border if you need help packing that 35lbs of “hello” !!!

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            • MayBeSo says:

              @ Larry,

              Hmmm…50 BMG, it DOES warm the Heart doesn’t it?.
              Also, yep…learning is a GOOD thing!…but you are right, them silly ruskie characters asre a PAIN to print, Da? I wonder what the translation (Russian)) for “Place yor HEAD between your KNEES and kiss your ASS goodbye.” is? Now THAT would be an interesting one to know! :)

              Nice to know that some of our brethren up in “God’s Country” are ‘good to go’….Hmmm, might see you someday…if we need to “fall back” for a bit fefore we mop them off our soil…then the EARTH. I SURELY LOVE them mountains Bro! (Yep…. I ENVY you!)

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Badass round, 54ft# recoil, 30-06 is 20

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        • MayBeSo says:

          @ Kulafarmer,

          Oh boy…yep, anytinme you get much over 35 lbs it gets tough, quick. A Winchester M70 300 WinMag of mine kicked SO HARD out of the box that I shot it ONE TIME…put is down , back in the box and shipped it off to Vais Arms in Texas immediately. Incidentally – you guys here – IF the kick is TOO Much fet a good mjzzle break…you CANNOT believe how MUCH of a diference that makes in the felt recoil. Also, another interesting tid-bit is the story’s if the guys who do use those…where they reposrt foing out to the woods on a hunt and after a missed shot the game didn’t/doesn’t run away…apparanerly they can’t figure out WHERE the shot comes from,,,,the muzzle-brake ‘spreads the noise out so widely that it sounda llike it’s coming from EVERYWHERE.

          Gee…THAT could be a handy little characteristic to have when shooting at ‘dangerous game…wouldn’t it? THINK about IT….

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          • Them Guys says:

            I read there are cases of guys Retinas seperating from their Eye due to massive rifle recoil. Is that posible?

            I think it refered to older type Elephant guns desigend for african hunts for elephant and rino. And Truth to it?

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            • dave says:

              no

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            • MayBeSo says:

              @ Them Guys

              Actually, yes. Though it’s usually a matter of ‘racoon-eye’…where you get hit around the eye by the immpact of the ocular of the scope…THAT imparts sufficient force to the skull – directly – to sometinmes do that….it DOES happen sometimes, though it’s usually on those scopes wirth a very mall amount of ‘eye relief’.

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      • dave says:

        @ maybeso. You must live in Elk country. Flat shooting with a good size bleedout hole. I believe Buffalo Arms out of Sandpoint Idaho would stock your brass if you needed some. They had my brass and the rifle/caliber has been out of production since the depression. (that the 30′s, not the one we are in now)

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    30. Steve says:

      Foreign troops on American soil pisses me right the f…k off!

      But what pisses me off even more is American troops kicking in the doors of American citizens. We saw this in Boston, sorry but I’m angry about this, and its not going to fly in my world!

      My solution , what makes me feel better, is to put together my “line gear”, then take comfort in the fact
      that I’m ready,

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      • Yeah thats where I drew my line. Breaching homes “to protect people from terrorists who might be hiding under your bed/in your closet/toilet/etc” and “shelter in place.”

        One dead soldier makes nine men hesitate. The federal government really only has a tenth of the power that they think they do.

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    31. JayJay says:

      I am pi**ed at some of these posts.
      So, I’ll say it.
      My husband has survived open heart surgery, carotid surgery, many strokes that have taken his sight in one eye along with other physical losses, and a major stroke/seizure in February that he was lucky to survive, and I know each day he expects it to be his last–hell, he even laughs about it!!
      So this man that served in Nam, has no children, no true friends, no neighbors, not even a church family, just little ole me for 38 years, (not that I’m counting;-), and counts every morning as a blessing when he gets out of bed–he will NOT lay down for foreign OR domestic invaders.
      Nuff said?? Is he alone??

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      • No Mam, I got his and your 6 for sure.

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        • Ghost Rider says:

          @JJ; I read this site everyday, but I only post once in a while. Your post gave me chills. You and your husband are not alone. Ever!

          Ghost Rider standing by

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      • amused says:

        he is not alone, he can rest, there are young men on standby, ready to preserve liberty, logistics are taken seriously and we are adapting daily, fear not, this is the land of the free, it will stay that way

        still amused

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      • ILmom says:

        Jayjay….I wish I were your neighbor!!!

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      • KP89DC says:

        JayJay, you and your DH are not alone. While I’m no longer in my prime and have a similar situation with my DW I will stand with our fellow patriots to defend our country and I fully beleive that there are those close to you geographicaly that will assist you when the time comes. God bless.

        MOLON LABE

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      • Ugly says:

        JayJay.

        Not alone. We all have family that have served. I never joined the military, but I have many family members that have fought.

        They fought for our Liberty–now this happens….

        We Americans are under fire. As Abe stated, ‘America will not be destroyed from without, but from within’.

        We are being destroyed from within.

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      • MayBeSo says:

        @ JayJay

        Rest ASSURED he…and you ARE NOT alone M’am…

        If there is NOTHING in this life SO PRECIOIUS as that you would NOT lay down your life for it…then are you even ALIVE…truly? Many – today, in this country – would say that there is nothing so worthy in life as to give thier lives in exchange for it…

        I truly feel for all such of the ‘cowards’ that are of that mein in this country today…to have gone through one’s entire life without ever having LIVED…how will they account for themselves in the Judgment to come…I wonder?

        Remember as well…”The Brave DIE but Once, the coward, a thousand times over….”

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      • Jay Jay…Jesus Christ has not abandoned you or your husband…obviously He is your source of strength. You know what it says about ‘those who wait upon the Lord’…they shall renew their strength. God Bless you both.

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    32. The realist says:

      I guess the South with once Rise and Ride Again!

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    33. wildman says:

      Time to oil and lube OL, Ma Deuce cause we gonna have some fun tonite! prep hard and seeya on the other side

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    34. eagle eye says:

      look at the handshake between Putin and O Bummer.

      Not that Putin holds his hand palm down in dominance.

      Interesting.

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    35. The more likely scenario would be forces from a predominantly black countries, you know like where obuma is right now.

      These type of soldiers are uneducated, single-minded and easily manipulated by whoever controls them, they will not ask why and they lack the cultural connection needed to even understand our Constitution and our need for freedom, tyranny, chaos and dictators is all most have ever known.

      The other added complication will be patriotic white Americans being put in the position to kill blacks of any kind, we can all imagine how that would be received/perceived nationally or internationally.

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    36. Glenn Phillips says:

      I have asked an opinion from an Army Sarge. He is of the opinion that The Guard, and The Reserves will stand with American Citizens by at least 75%. He is also of the opinion that the marines 75% are the most “gung Ho” and will not hesitate to fire on Citizens. This can and most assuredly will get ugly if Martial Law is declared or foreign troops attempt to tell Americans what to do.

      Molon Labe My Fellow Americans!

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      • Casey Jr. says:

        Well, believe what you will but pass on to the “sarge” that there are many Marines who- like me- will uphold their oath to the Constitution.

        Semper Fidelis
        Sic Semper Tyrannis!

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      • Red thumbed not because I disagree, but because I DONT like or want this to happen.

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      • Tucker says:

        I am not one who puts a lot of faith in the idea that the vast majority of our military people take the side of the American people, if this often predicted Second American Revolution ever does arrive.

        I would guess that an optimistic estimate would be around 25%, or a little less. Heck, remember – the overwhelming majority of these young military guys are products of a public education system that has been taken over and controlled by Cultural Marxist/Communists since the 1960s. This means the last two, or maybe three generations of Americans – and I’m talking about White Americans – have been brainwashed to (a) hate their Founding Fathers, (b) be ashamed of their ancestors and feel guilty over their victories over the various Indian tribes during the taming of the frontier, (c) view any American who believes in the Constitution and Bill of Rights as a dangerous extremist and a potential domestic terrorist.

        BTW: This Cultural Marxist declaration of ‘War’ upon the traditions and values of the ‘old America’ was the agenda that produced the wildly popular TV show ‘All in The Family’. That Norman Lear program was one of the very earliest, out-in-the-open (vs subtle) attempts by the Cultural Marxist crowd to brainwash our youth to despise their parents and the traditional values that used to dominate and set the standard within the old America.

        Archie was the ‘straw man’, representing everything about the Old America that the Cultural Marxist Communists hated and wished to destroy. And, the media has been hammering this theme and message relentlessly ever since that TV show went off the air.

        So, as I said – these young men and women who are in our military today have all been saturated with Cultural Marxist, anti-traditional American poison and this was done deliberately to prepare them to be willing to shoot their fellow citizens.

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        • Them Guys says:

          Last Month they were United For ANTIGUN laws in america.

          This Month it is United FOR Immigration Reform laws!

          Jews Unite Behind Push for Immigration Reform

          Ethics and Self-Interest Drive Unusual Nationwide Effort

          Read more: http://forward.com/articles/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/

          Forward is a major, if not the leading, Jewpaper in USrael.

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          • Them Guys says:

            VP Joe Biden’s Latest Speech Praises Faggots!

            For it’s no secret that Jewish Money Power and its Lobbies have our monetary policy and Congress in a vice grip.

            And just a few weeks ago, Joe – ‘I AM a Zionist’ – Biden acknowledged that Jews wield dominant influence in shaping American culture.

            Crediting Jewry for leading our nation into accepting the sin of homosexuality, Biden told a crowd of Jews celebrating Jewish Heritage Month that the “driving force” of this “social change” is the Jewish-owned main stream media.

            Said Zionist Joe, Quote: “I bet you 85 percent of these changes whether it’s in Hollywood or social media, is a consequence of Jewish leaders in the industry.” Unquote.

            In a recent Meet the Press interview, Biden singled out the sitcom, “Will and Grace,” produced by David Kohan and Jeff Greenstein, (both Jews), for playing a major role in molding the masses to embrace homosexual unions.

            [Clip: “As more and more Americans become to understand what this is all about is a simple proposition: ‘who do you love?’

            “I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women…my measure David, and I take a look at when things really began to change.

            I think ‘Will and Grace’ probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anyone’s ever done so far.”]

            See for yourself the depravity featured on “Will and Grace”…depravity that Biden apparently applauds. [Clips Running)

            And now here, where BOTH the actresses performing a depraved lesbian act are, of course, Jews. [End of Clips Running]

            Last September, NBC, owned by the Jew Brian Roberts, began airing the homosexual sitcom, “The New Normal,” which by all appearances influenced the Boy Scouts’ decision to accept homosexual members.

            [Clip: “Hi Everybody! I would like you to meet Brian. He is my life partner, my fiance in fact. We’re getting married. And we’re having a baby boy soon. Just two men in love.”]

            Is it for no reason that Christ called Jewry the “Synagogue of Satan” seeing it is highly organized, universal in scope, and evil in its designs.

            “Europe Is The Church and The Church Is Europe!” wrote Hilaire Belloc, the 20th century English historian.

            But with the dismantling of The Church accomplished by the regicides of Charles I, Louis XVI, and Czar Nicholas II, Church and State no longer act as a foil against the intrigues of international Jewry.

            Today, Europe— once known AND experienced as Christendom … wherein Jews were considered enemies of the Gospel—is a secular wasteland.

            It’s ruled instead by the Synagogue…with Jews at the highest levels of economic, political and cultural influence.

            Once upon a time, The Church clearly understood the danger of allowing Jews to hold sway over society.

            It was Emperor Justinian of the 6th Century who – in his “Justinian Code” – forbade Jews from participation in banking, holding civil office, and from teaching positions.

            He understood—as did his Christian subjects—that Jews were to be kept on a short leash, otherwise Jewish tyranny, betrayal, and rapid moral decline would destroy Christian society.

            And now that very destruction has been unleashed.

            Facts are facts…Jewish devastation in our national life abounds.

            A Religious Solution To A Jewish Problem
            By Brother Nathanael Kapner (former Jew,now Christian)
            Copyright 2013

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    37. First of I admire everyone’s the willingness to stand up and fight if and when the time comes. I’ve watched as things in america have totally and irreversibly changed, and not for the better. it’s only going to get worse. In this new america we find ourselves in where fear of losing stuff that can be replaced is more important than losing our freedom, our lives america was born from nothing and became the greatest country on earth all because our founding fathers took action and didnt wait until Great Britain got all it’s ducks in a row. If the founding fathers and the people had waited I believe we would be under british rule today. While we are all waiting for some type of event to start the final act they push forward in the hope that the americans that are awake lose intrest. Lets look at something, we all know the goal is one world financial system, one world religion, one world government protected by a one world military. just look at all the joint exercises the troops from other countries

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      • YUP TDF your right! But let us not forget the Republic, a nation UNDER GOD. God has his will, the Spanish Armada was decimated by a hurricane if it had not of been we would all be Catholic and scraping at the Popes feet kissing them. When the British were burning and decimating Washington DC God sent another hurricane that Brits could not recover from…If you wish to read notable quotes from forefather:
        http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Resources/Quotes.aspx

        I do believe God still has a surprise for all the reprobate men who have weakened our nation. We still have a lot of God fearing people in this nation. However, evil has lifted its ugly head above truth…will God respond…I believe with all my heart he will! So kiss our ass NWO and go to hell! You have given us a black eye and with the Lords aid we will plant your ass! If one of the Lords angels can roast 150,000 Syrians look out NWO, God has yet to respond to your finger in his face. And when it happens you’ll know who did it! You are rejoicing in your evil now but WOE is your reward.

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        • anserman says:

          Does anyone really believe that after 50 million abortions in this country and fagots taking over everything from our school system to the supreme court that we are a God protected nation?
          Judgment is coming and rightly so, this nation is screwed. That doesn’t mean his people are.

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          • aserman…Israel was split and God honored David and those who followed him…I expect the same treatment from the Lord because we follow HIM (King David also)…don’t be so quick to write off all the God-fearers in America…God has his ways and it remains to be seen how all this will work out. Evil will run rampant till it comes to the full but God will raise up his standard when he is ready. The majority of Americans, even though they do not understand all, want a godly nation. We are experiencing a purifying fire from God. Let us pray that the decent men and women will be able to stand against this flood of evil. But God is not mocked, all this evil will reap its harvest and when God judges none will escape!

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          • Them Guys says:

            Famous Quotes You never heard of.

            “A satanic power had taken over our whole country, who had been able to grip key positions of our intellectual and spiritual life, but also of the political and economical life.

            “From these key positions they were able to control and monitor the whole nation. This power had at the same time the influence to persecute with the law those who fought against them and who were willing to sacrifice and oppose resistance to the advance of that power

            “The almighty Judaism then declared war on us.”

            Who is quoted here? Scroll on down for the answer.

            A. Admiral James Forrestal

            B. Ronald Reagan

            C. Brother Nathanael

            D. Adolf Hitler

            E. Charles Lindbergh Jr.

            Answer= D

            Think about what he said in light of where we are today and what we witness with each passing day.

            A more Recent Quote from 2012

            Be prepared if you are going to seek and speak the truth. “They are going to say you are a Nazi who wants to kill SIX MILLION JEWS no matter what, so you might as well go all out.” Incogman- from his website

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    38. training with ours and that has been going on for years they are not training to ensure safety and security its to bring about the new world order and protect it and the longer we wait the more they surround us until we have no choice but to give in once they cause a reason to enact martial law or it occurs naturaly its too late. The battle plan everyone has been talking about has been wait it equals suicide and failure and they win and our country our freedom is lost

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      • Luther says:

        The Tree of Liberty has to be refreshed from time to time, the question everyone has to ask themselves is, whether we win or loose this fight did you make the sacrifices to preserve what this Nation is suppose to represent?

        Then let history decide whether we won or lost…

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    39. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      AMERICA BETRAYED BY HER OWN POWER HUNGRY CORRUPT GREEDY POLITICIANS …

      told ya’ all 4 years ago about this comin’ ;0p

      hilary ‘LUCIFER’ clinton herself sent a written letter to vadimer putin requesting russian troops for domestic control / disarmament of the ameriKan public operations years ago .

      RUSSIA’S EX PRESIDENT GORBACHEV EXILED RETIRED LIVES WORKS FOR THE U.N. GLOBALISTS AT THE DECOMMISSIONED US NAVY BASE THE PRESIDO IN SAN FRANCISCO BENEATH THE SAN FRANCISCO BRIDGE .

      Hessian mercenary troops were used by british king george of england against the over taxed freedom desiring loving AmeriCan Colonists during the Revolutionary War 1770′s and they were brutal policing murdering robbing and raping the colonists . they even forced the colonists to quarter them , provide them food and shelter in their own small homes to the foreign troops occupying the colonies .

      israeli zionist JEW mercenary troops were recently used to secure new orleans during the katrina man made HAARP hurricane disaster they killed as they desired , ITS REPORTED BY MULTIPLE SOURCES (2000 state prisoners are CONFIRMED KILLED BY THE STATE dead and missing dumped in the lousiana swamps during katrina) .

      so none of this is new …

      we can’t win in a direct confrontation with the zog amerika fedgov and its illuminati zionist freemason jesuit mormon commie mafia’s foreign allies .

      we must fight them by taking them out one at a time or in small groups … go for the controlling heads of the snake , not the body .

      FOCUS ON KILLING ASSASSINATING IT’S LEADERS , WE MUST IDENTIFY AND KILL THE TRAITOROUS ILLUMINATI GLOBALIST FASCIST ZIONIST FREEMASON MORMON JESUIT BANKER POLITICIAN MILITARY CHURCH LEADERS WHO LIVE AMONG US … WHO HAVE BETRAYED AMERICA TO THE NWO GLOBALIST U.N. BANKERS .

      it is the only way we can affect true change .

      YOU KILL A SNAKE BY TRAPPING ITS HEAD BENEATH YOUR BOOT HEEL AND THEN CHOPPING OFF ITS HEAD WITH A SHARP EDGED SHOVEL .

      IF EVERY AMERICAN FREEMAN PATRIOT MILITIA GROUP JUST TOOK CARE OF HIS HER THEIR OWN LOCAL CROOKED POLITICIANS AND BANKERS THIS WOLD BE OVER IN JUST ‘ONE DAY’ .

      THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO ORGANIZE TO DO AS AMERICAN FREEMAN PATRIOTS .

      A NATION WIDE ‘ONE DAY OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION’ TO TAKE OUT THE TRAITOROUS ZOG AMERIKAN GLOBALISTS FASCIST ZIONIST COMMIE FREEMASON MORMON JESUIT TRASH NATION WIDE … PROBLEM SOLVED .

      NinaO ;0p

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      • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

        The problem about the national leadership taking this country to war, as happened in the Great Depression, is that the US government, at this point in our history, doesn’t have the money, the manufacturing, or the troop strength to guarantee a positive outcome to a conventional war; and that is what makes these times so dangerous.

        ~ mike rivero @ whatreallyhappened dot com

        * AS IT MAKES A GLOBAL NUCLEAR WAR MORE REALISTICALLY LIKELY .

        no one wins a nuclear war . each nuclear nuke bomb munitions exploded fired destroys kills poisons a lil’ bit of the entire world OUR EARTH AND HOME and continues to do so for the next 30,000+ years , it affects radiation poisons the entire world around the globe .

        ~ N.O. ;0p

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      • yental says:

        You will probably be “red-thumbed” to hell and back Nina-O, but from my perspective and inclinations…YOU ARE HITTING THE BULLS EYE!

        Honored to “ride the red thumb train” with you!

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        • yental,

          We all get the red thumbs, but then again we all take the time to read the comment, LOL its just our nature.

          And yep Nino is 1 Crazy MF but if in a fight I want to be next to him!

          DPS

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        • 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

          @Yental … Respect Sir .

          but … i wont be getting on that train

          i didn’t get all gussied up lookin’ All Mean and Ornery in my Combat Gear and War Paint to sit this dance out

          i plan to go out STANDING TALL in my Combat Boots taking a few of these traitorous NWO U.N. ZOG DHS Globalist Fairy Boys piece’s of shat’s WITH ME to VALHALLA with me .

          We’ll see you on The FREE AMERICAN FREEMAN PATRIOT Muster and Fire Line Sir .

          N.O. ;0p

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    40. wrong says:

      This is the best, most interesting English lesson I have to offer.

      Did you know “listen” and “silent” use the same letters?

      Do you know that the words “race car” spelled backwards still spells “race
      car”?

      And that “eat” is the only word that if you take the first letter and move
      it to the last, it spells its past tense “ate”?

      And have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in
      “illegal immigrants,” and add just a few more letters,
      it spells: “Go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking jackasses and take those other
      hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-loving,
      raggedy-ass bastards with you.”

      How weird is that?

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    41. Putin in Va says:

      Wow it doesn’t take much to rile ya’ll up! We have agreements with a lot of governments for disaster relief. If you think TPTB have enough intelligence to stage a dictatorship or foreign rule, then they should be smart enough to make this finance crunch go away… I believe we will go down the tubes, but it won’t be pretty or fun. There is NO plan, that is the problem…

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      • JayJay says:

        Make this finance crunch go away??
        They orchestrated this crunch; it’s part of the Global takeover.

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        • Ugly says:

          The economic collapse of USA and Dollar is 100% planned. If not, then they would try to fix problem and get economy in order.

          Not so. They are allowing it to meltdown with zero recovery in sight.

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    42. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

      Anarchist Adam Kokesh Fraud Exposed By Own Team Members – See more at: http://www.xrepublic.tv/node/4064#sthash.XD7qQ977.dpuf

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    43. 3n3my of th3 Stat3 says:

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    44. Barn Cat says:

      The Russian troops would do things American troops wouldn’t do. Obama might give them the green light to commit atrocities against US civilians in exchange for doing the work of confiscating guns.

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