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    FBI Visiting Gun Shops to Investigate “People talking about Big Government”

    Brandon Turbeville
    April 15th, 2014
    Activist Post
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    under-surveillance

    In keeping with the tradition of the FBI’s position on gun rights, it appears the Bureau is working overdrive to monitor and harass gun owners and the gun shops that sell to them.

    While government surveillance of gun purchases and gun owners is nothing new, a recent visit by an FBI Counterterrorism agent to a Columbia, South Carolina gun shop has only reinforced the knowledge that the U.S. government is growing more and more concerned by the prospect of a well-armed populace – particularly one that prefers to live without constant government interference in their personal lives.

    While the narrative surrounding “counterterrorism” operations used to eviscerate civil liberties after 9/11 was initially based upon the threat of Muslim fundamentalists, that narrative has clearly shifted to a focus on gun owning, law-abiding American citizens – both those who are politically active and those who are blissfully ignorant of current events.

    For many, this shift of focus has been quite the surprise. Thus, when the Columbia, South Carolina gun shop in question was approached by an FBI counterterrorism agent on Monday, April 14, the individuals who spoke with him were somewhat alarmed to realize that the agent’s concern was not fundamentalist Muslims but Americans who promote small government.

    According to an individual who was present during the visit (this person will remain anonymous for obvious reasons), the agent pulled up in a regular vehicle in plain clothes and took a look around the shop as if he were considering a purchase before approaching the staff and announcing that he was with the FBI Counterterrorism unit.

    “Never in a million years would I have thought this guy was a fed,” said the witness. “He was in a completely normal vehicle. Regular clothes. Everything. I would have thought this guy was just some downhome country boy.”

    After showing proper identification, the agent told the shop owners that he was tasked with all the gun shops in the general area and that he was charged with investigating “suspicious purchases” in accordance with counterterrorism operations.

    The suspicious purchases he mentioned, however, were completely normal transactions. This included, paying with cash, purchasing long guns, and other similarly innocuous behavior.

    However, what surprised the owners the most was his statement regarding what he was most interested in tracking.

    According to the witness, the agent stated, “If you see some Middle Eastern guy come in. You don’t have to be so worried about that. What we’re really looking for are people talking about being sovereign such as sovereign citizens or people talking about Big Government.”

    The agent also mentioned that he had a spreadsheet of all the gun shops in the area.

    After this brief chat, the agent left a flyer with the shop that listed some of the more generic and normal behaviors which they were expected to view as suspicious.

    Some of these trigger behaviors are:

    • Payment in cash or someone else’s credit card.
    • Reluctant or unwilling to produce valid I.D.
    • Large purchases or unusual inquiries into buying in bulk
    • Lack of knowledge involved in firearms or product usage
    • Hints at illegal or misuse of explosives
    • New or unknown customers
    • Nervousness or evasiveness

    suspicious1In the end, while the visit to a local gun shop by an FBI Counterterrorism agent is no surprise, it should serve as a stark reminder that the U.S. government is vastly concerned about a well-armed populace. Gun rights have been gradually eroded in the United States for decades but the assault on gun rights has been ratcheted up to a new level by the Obama administration.

    Still, those expecting a public declaration of total gun illegality and martial law confiscation will be wringing their hands in anticipation for a very long time. Of course, while they wring their hands and anticipate the declaration of outright war against gun owners, their guns are being slowly stripped from their hands in an incremental fashion. Slight rule changes and isolated confiscations will continue to take place over time until the public has been properly acclimated to them as a fact of life, at which point the public’s line in the sand will be moved slightly forward once more. Again, the line will be crossed, but only slightly. Eventually, Americans will wake up to find themselves completely disarmed and neutered in a land in which they once believed they were free. At that point, with a completely defenseless population, the thin veneer of freedom will be lifted.

    It is time for gun owners and gun rights activists to go on the political offensive. In 2014, it is no longer a legitimate mode of activism to be content to defend your already attenuated freedoms. It is time to make demands. It is time to throw compromise out the window.

    Related Activist Post Article:
    25 Reports That Can Put You on the Terror Watch List

    Brandon Turbeville is an author out of Florence, South Carolina. He has a Bachelor’s Degree from Francis Marion University and is the author of six books, Codex Alimentarius — The End of Health Freedom7 Real ConspiraciesFive Sense Solutions and Dispatches From a Dissident, volume 1and volume 2, and The Road to Damascus: The Anglo-American Assault on Syria. Turbeville has published over 300 articles dealing on a wide variety of subjects including health, economics, government corruption, and civil liberties. Brandon Turbeville’s podcast Truth on The Tracks can be found every Monday night 9 pm EST at UCYTV.  He is available for radio and TV interviews. Please contact activistpost (at) gmail.com. 

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    1. Townsaver says:

      The Time Has Come!

      Cabbages and Kings…

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      • If they’re visiting gun shops, do you think they haven’t visited prepper websites?

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        • Ugly says:

          We all know spy technology is being used. It is from cameras, small microphones, to iPhones and iPads. But the scary ones are those from nano-technology and drones. Read about the Argus Drone. Also what about those new $100 with that blue strip. How do we know that that is not nanotechnology with GPS and tracking. Also, maybe the blue streak can identify fingerprints. Don’t know, but it is all there. Best to just live an honest lifestyle and not worry too much. But we need to watch them as much as they are watching us.

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          • Be informed says:

            IF the FBI doesn’t have better things to do with their time than to go watch people talk about and complain about current events than try to hunt down dope dealers, serial perverts, real life criminals, then they should not be call FBI. DUH! Common citizens are not the ones that go out and commit crimes, it is the real criminals. Thanks to the revolving doors of the law system maniacs like those two serial killers that raped women and then killed them are on the streets. Those two demons had ankle bracelets on and should have never been let loose.

            Come on FBI or any other law enforcement, these are the criminals that need to be watched like a hawk. How many of these career criminals are the ones that commit the crimes? It sure as hell AIN’T the person that enjoys the 2nd Amendment and preserving the rest of the Constitution. How much deep suffering is there because law enforcement is going out goblin hunting on regular good citizens instead of going after hard core on the REAL bad guys, especially on those with pages long criminal records? Sickening wrong.

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            • durango kidd says:

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                You almost made sense DK
                Am curious, are you a country born and raised individual or a city or suburb raised individual?

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                • durango kidd says:

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                • John Q. Public says:

                  Wouldn’t it be amusing if the gun shops starting turning in the names of local gun banners?

                  When the goons of the police state started paying visits to the gun banners, the gun banners might develop a whole new outlook on the Bill of Rights.

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                • Ghost Rider says:

                  DK;
                  This is more than a supposed “deadbeat rancher” as you say. It’s the people saying enough is enough, we are not going to take the heavy handed military response anymore. Are you saying you agree that having 200 heavily armed feds was appropriate for an unpaid bill?

                  I would love to know how much the BLM is spending on this operation. I’m guessing 750k easily so far for what? A supposed 1 million dollar fee that he didn’t pay. How does that make any sense?

                  When does it begin if not now?

                  GR

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                • Wilson says:

                  Here’s another source of attacks on gun rights. Probably has more money to pay for the fight than does the NRA or GOA.

                  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/16/Michael-Bloomberg-On-Gun-Control-This-is-a-Battle-For-The-Hearts-And-Minds-Of-America

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                • At least when the shtf we will all know where to find DK. He will be licking the tallest fed boot while filing an appeal in court. He will engage the only way he knows how.

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                • Unreconstructed Southron says:

                  DK would rather support the deadbeat government that’s taking the “deadbeat” rancher’s property?

                  I’ll take the “deadbeat” rancher’s side any time. Less deadbeat to support.

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                • KY Mom says:

                  Off Topic…

                  “I hope I’m wrong but historians may look back and say this was the start of World War III.”

                  “Deep in the flat and featureless landscape of eastern Ukraine, it is all too ­possible that the outline of World War III is taking shape.”

                  “Whipped up by the Kremlin ­propaganda machine and led by Russian ­military intelligence, armed men are erecting road blocks, storming police stations and ripping down the country’s flag.”

                  “They are demolishing not just their own country — bankrupt, ill-run and beleaguered — but also the post-war order that has kept most of Europe and us, here in Britain, safe and free for decades. Vladimir Putin is striking at the heart of the West.”

                  Daily Mail dot co dot UK

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              • Chase says:

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                • Eagle 1 says:

                  Yeah I’m a Christian and as a matter of fact I do read the Bible a lot. Your point is? I don’t attack the worldview of atheism, although I’ve researched it. I would appreciate it if you would return the favor. Fact of the matter is, I really don’t care whose land it is anyway, as soon as they were ready to kill em over it was when I sided with the rancher. Heck what would you do if your family was in danger? Just lay down? This is something that bothers me, with the people, including Glenn Beck who say things like “if I was in his position…” Fact is we aren’t. Also concerning Becks condemnation of the guy is comical when he has numerous body guards for HIS family.

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                • the renegade braveheart says:

                  Chase, go f#$% your communist self.

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                • NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin says:

                  Cuz you sure use that f#$% yourself alot lately. Granma Bertha would wash your mouth out with lye soap. You ain’t been goin to Chuch since you moved to Memphis, have you.

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                • NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin says:

                  Also if your from Georgia, here is your chance to thumb your nose in the PC crowds face and show your Southern pride. Get the SCV speciality liscense plate. It’s Heritage, not hate.

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              • posseecom says:

                Real ethical moral resistance is now being graciously provided by the likes of James Yeager of Tactical Response…who is providing technical and logistical protection to the Bundy family as we speak..

                Continue your commercial mortgage adventures and keep on dreaming of your resistance on your keyboard..

                Engage indeed..

                possee

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              • Gods Creation says:

                “””Supporting a Deadbeat Rancher in Nevada is not. “””

                There is no deadbeat rancher. It is a question of Lawful jurisdiction, which the fed corp has NONE outside of DC.

                Armed resistance to unlawful acts of the fed is a moral, patriotic and Constitutional duty.

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                • McFrolie says:

                  Deadbeat?

                  There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years. The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not. What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher’s grazing permit it says the following: “You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due.” The “mandatory” terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc. The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to. Every rancher must sign this “contract” agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment. In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher’s permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years. As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%. In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada. Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM. Clive Bundy was one of these people who received extremely unfair and unreasonable TERMS AND CONDITIONS. Keep in mind that Mr. Bundy was required to sign this contract before he was allowed to pay. Had Clive signed on the dotted line, he would have, in essence, signed his very livelihood away. And so Mr. Bundy took a stand, not only for himself, but for all of us. He refused to be destroyed by a tyrannical federal entity and to have his American liberties and freedoms taken away. Also keep in mind that all ranchers financially paid dearly for the forage rights those permits allow – – not rights to the land, but rights to use the forage that grows on that land. Many of these AUMS are water based, meaning that the rancher also has a vested right (state owned, not federal) to the waters that adjoin the lands and allow the livestock to drink. These water rights were also purchased at a great price. If a rancher cannot show beneficial use of the water (he must have the appropriate number of livestock that drinks and uses that water), then he loses that water right. Usually water rights and forage rights go hand in hand. Contrary to what the BLM is telling you, they NEVER compensate a rancher for the AUMs they take away. Most times, they tell ranchers that their AUMS are “suspended,” but not removed. Unfortunately, my family has thousands of “suspended” AUMs that will probably never be returned. And so, even though these ranchers throughout the course of a hundred years invested thousands(and perhaps millions) of dollars and sacrificed along the way to obtain these rights through purchase from others, at a whim the government can take everything away with the stroke of a pen. This is the very thing that Clive Bundy singlehandedly took a stand against.

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                • Mcfrollie: Well stated. If anyone wants to know more about how the blm handles ranchers just research the Hage case.

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                • wrong says:

                  McFrolie

                  Great comment.

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                • Mountain Trekker says:

                  Thanks McFrolie, I have heard so much rhetorical talk that I really didn’t know how to stand on this issue. To often people can be guided by emotion rather than common logic which can be a very dangerous action. I have heard alot of reasons why, Pro and Con and you have explained the situation and the law in the most clear and precise manner. Once again Thanks for your input. Trekker Out.

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              • Wilson says:

                @dk,
                “Like John Mellencamp I was born and raised in a small town in farm country”

                And your point is? Oh, you don’t have one.

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              • maddog says:

                I can only hope when you have trouble with the government they send a thousand snipers to your house aiming 308 rounds at your wife and children’s heads. Due to your comments I can promise I will do everything possible to ensure you are on your own.

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                • Wilson says:

                  @Maddog,
                  Maybe you can help me. I’ve been wondering where Lon Horiuchi is. Your mention of snipers aiming ,308 rounds at women and children makes me think you might know where he is?
                  Watch your six.

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                • maddog says:

                  Wilson, Lon Horiuchi is at Troy, Ind. from what I can tell. My point is I do not want the government using snipers or contract killers. When the fuck has this become Okay. I don’t know or care who is “legally right” Bundy or BLM about grazing cows. The government using snipers to settle it is something I would think everyone would be against. Those contract killers in Bunkerville were there not for Bundy alone, they were there to tell all the American people “do as we say or this is coming to your house”. Good luck to all who think that government snipers are wonderful.

                  p.s. I was in Bunkerville, it is impossible to live and work there and be a deadbeat no matter what you do.

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              • the renegade braveheart says:

                DK, your first statement I’ll agree with, but on your 2nd one, Bundy is not a deadbeat. The real issue there is harry Reid and the Chinese company he’s in bed with wanting to turn the Bundy Ranch into a solar energy farm and the BLM is the tool of oppression being used in this case.

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              • CameronD says:

                Suggest you listen to the first hour of Mark Levin’s April 15 show archived on marklevinshow dot com. The guy you refer to as a deadbeat has more balls than anyone I ever met.

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                • Egbert T says:

                  Having seen all of the videos of the “incidents” of late, I am disgusted by BOTH sides in this total goat rope. Neither the BLM nor the Bundy Clan has anything remotely resembling clean skirts. The BLM on the District-Federal level is trying to make this into another political blood bath for their own purposes and the purposes of their puppet-masters in D.C.
                  The Bundy Clan, by their own admission, have not paid any fees to any governmental entity since 1993, so by their own admission for the last 21 years or so, Farmer Bundy has been reaping the “benefit” of “free grazing” on federally controlled land. (like it or not-that is NOT the issue here-YET) Bundy’s Clan and many supporters of his recorded in the now viral videos, are professed members of my own faith, and they have acted deplorably and in no way represent MY religion at all. Their behavior was disgusting. Two wrongs never make a right, I sincerely hope BOTH sides, can manage to “man up” and act like adults before all of those trying to gin up “armed insurrection” can talk anyone else into acting stupidly. Regardless of one’s opinion as to the testicular “ability” of Clive Bundy, he is intentionally using the Tea Party and Libertarian movements to selfishly foment anger against his nemesis. Such action by any adult, much less the puppet-master in D.C. is deplorable for anyone laying claim to being a true patriot. Bundy is not a “true patriot”, as witnessed by his intentional withholding of “fees” owed for his cattle grazing rights, which he has on numerous times, admitted he does owe the feds. Those who fall prey to Bundy’s salacious claims, are falling for this “false prophet” and leading themselves into a nonsensical and indefensible course of action, as Bundy doesn’t care about anything but HIS CATTLE and his own ego.By the same toke, we shouldn’t buy into anything Harry Reid, his son Rory, and any of their cronies, say or do, much less what comes out of the BLM on this whole mess. Please, let cooler heads prevail! Think, don’t react, Bundy AND the BLM are counting on reaction instead of action.Don’t be stupid. Be a patriot instead.

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              • Infidels-r-us says:

                DK. I haven’t commented on here in a long time but by bad-mouthing that innocent rancher, you are twisting my tail. Grow a brain boy and see the light. You may be the next one they come after. It’s a small step from what they are doing to him and claiming your front yard. Jeez.

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                • durango kidd says:

                  If Rancher Bundy were innocent I would be in Nevada with bells on, locked & loaded for bear, volunteering to protect his ranch and his family from an abusive, tyrannical government to the death.

                  He is not.

                  Sadly, the federal government has the moral, ethical, and legal high ground in this case, based upon the singular fact of this case, which is undisputed by Rancher Bundy: he has not paid grazing fees in more than 20 years while grazing his herd on Taxpayer land.

                  The Liberty Movement must capture the hearts and minds of the American People if WE are to be successful in taking the nation back from the New World Order. The American People are going to look at that singular fact and side with the Federal government.

                  Worse than that, the Cause will suffer because the majority of the American People will look at the Liberty Movement’s unjustified support for this trespasser and thief, and brand the Liberty Movement and the Militia’s as Reactionary, fringe, and hotheaded, rather than the heart and soul of America.

                  Read Sun Tse. They have.

                  Bundy, and the Militia that unjustly support him are destroying the credibility of the Liberty Movement just as it was building momentum and support from the average American.

                  Each event, each issue, each instance between the Feds and the People must be evaluated on its legal and Constitutional merit before committing troops, lives, and ammo to the Cause.

                  If you want to confront and attack the FEDs, do it about gun control. Do it about the First Amendment Zones in OUR cities and towns, and do it in the Public square.

                  Confront them about the smalls arms arsenal they collecting for use against the people. Confront them about militarizing the police in America. Confront them about the IRS, military spending, and the systematic transfer of Americans jobs offshore.

                  Confront them about the Invasion of America which they have engineered for tens of millions of foreign nationals, while the taxpayer subsidizes them to take American jobs. Or confront them under arms about the unconstitutional spying upon Americans.

                  There are a DOZEN issues that are so egregious that the American People have a Constitutional Right to attack their government, and SHOULD take up arms against this Rogue Administration that represents the New World Order and NOT the American people.

                  Rancher Bundy is NOT it.

                  Rancher Bundy is NOT the right excuse to eliminate the NWO overnight and at 500 yards. Cut him loose!!! :-)

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            • CriticalThought says:

              If you’re an ever growing federal government, with aspirations to continue increasing your scope of control and power, independent, freedom loving citizens are exactly the “criminals” that worry them the most.

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            • glacialhills says:

              I just have to chime in here because I keep hearing that this is all about the money that Bundy has not rightfully payed us taxpayers and the righteous BLM AKA Washington government is only trying to collect a debt owed to us hard working taxpayers.

              If we take just some basic numbers here, lets try and figure out how much they are spending every day this boondoggle goes on at the Bundy ranch… One BLM hired hand I would say is making what???

              Well according to the blm website www’blm.gov/pgdata and http://www.fedguide.com
              They start out at gs-5 pay which is 27,700 all the way up to gs-13 at step 10 (whatever that means) to 94,100. so if we just take an average (and who believes that they didn’t ship in the highest pay graders for this little fun activity?)

              lets just say an average was 50,000 per year per gestapo member. and we think there were around 2-300 in attendance with more showing up as we speak according to the reports I am seeing. And this has went on now for 3 weeks, give or take, at this level of insanity.

              Now, I only took consumers math in high school but I get
              50,000 is about 25 bucks an hour (no overtime figured) x average 250 agents x 21 days = 131,250 in just pay for the onsite players.

              Then throw in sniper teams, rent a drones flyers, satellite adjustment operators and oh I almost forgot lassie and rin tin tin handler’s and I would guess it is well over 250,000 in just pay for all the on and off site players.

              Now start adding in all assets,they counted over 80 suvs when the BLM left the bridge underpass standoff. fuel for those is what 100 bucks a tank at 3.89 a gallon that is $80,000, then you got lodging, at 60 bucks a night would be if double with two per room 60 x 125 x 21 nights rotating teams for 24 hour coverage = $158,760. food for hungry Burly men,3 squares a day x 21 days (cause it takes a lot of energy to taze and throw grannies dontcha know),another say what 20 a day x 250 x 21 = $105,000

              And this is probably a very low guess as to all the expenses, cause you and I know the government will spend like drunken sailors when they are at “work” and writing it off as work expense.

              So I can see this “operation” coming close to or by now over the money owed by Bundy, even if you use the government Gorilla math of 1 million in fines and fees instead of the $300,000 that Bundy claims and did pay to the local government.

              So I say that the government owes us “hardworking taxpayers” an explanation why they just blew all our owed grazing fee money to try and collect, and still dont have any money yet? I say stop spending a dollar to save a dime already…

              As ole Harry Reid said “this is not over yet, not by a long shot”.

              ALL of this,all the firepower, and agents all of it???

              … you think that this is REALLY just about collecting the grazing fees not paid? Really?? a measly 1 million dollar debt?

              ANYONE REALLY THINK THAT???

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              • durango kidd says:

                I think WE should cut government personnel in half, and THEN cut government paychecks in half. Studies show that federal employees get 60% more on average than they could make in the private sector for a similar position.

                Fire your government before you fire upon it.Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote. The dollars you save will be your own. :-)

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                • John W. says:

                  You have to be a govt. shill the way you keep hitting the same points. They are doing to Bundy the same thing they are doing to the farmers in Calif. and they did a few years ago in Klamath Falls. Breaking an agreement and keeping water that the farmers own. Same thing with Bundy when they started violating the terms of the agreement under which he paid grazing fees. They also let him go without paying for over twenty years so why is this now a big deal? You govt, trolls are so easy to spot it is funny. As for him being a deadbeat why is it that the biggest deadbeats are always the first to throw that stone.

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                • John W. says:

                  DK,
                  You are so full of shit. Make up your mind where you stand. troll.

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            • SouthernAZ says:

              Use the new $100′s only at Wallyworld!!

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            • Son of Liberty says:

              BI, how right you are. They have nothing better to do because Barry has tasked them with spying on patriots instead of doing what they were hired to do. However, an FYI. My co-workers on the Chicago pd and I used to laugh at the feebies. There is a reason they have highest death rate in federal law enforcement. They put guns and badges into the hands of attorneys and accountants then send then into the big city and tell them to be the police. They have no training or skill to do police work which is why they get injured so often in the line of duty. We use to say… FBI stood for forever bothering Italians or forever bungling investigations. Take your pick. I’ve never seen such incompetence in investigations in my police career. The only thing good I can say is that their evidence crime labs and scientists are top notch. The agents are a bad joke.

              Son of Liberty

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          • Jack Hammer says:

            Don’t know about you but I haven’t had a hundred dollar bill in my wallet in a very long time! LOL.

            Seriously though if that is the case put the bill in the microwave and juice it for a good ten seconds. Whatever electronics that may be in there will be immediately destroyed.

            Same thing goes for the RFID chips in drivers licenses and the “Real I.D.” the federal criminal government is pushing on us. A quick trip in the microwave oven will take care of that.

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        • Feisty Old Broad says:

          More than likely that my name, among all those here, are on multiple abc lists….all good with me…How about you folks?

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            I honestly dont care anymore. The USA i was born and raised into is not this bullshit these POS politicians and their hired thugs are making it into.
            The reset cant come fast enough in my mind,

            God bless all true patriots, their families, and friends and let your will for us be our guide.
            Lord, thankyou for the life i have been able to live.

            Just because they have hired thugs doesnt mean they will win.
            That has been proven by the ass kicking the Afgans and Iraquis have been steadily but surely been dishing out. The one thing that is unfortunate is that so many good men and women have been killed or injured in all of this, and for what?

            God bless the veterans, know that We the People and patriots are not your enemy, the enemy of all of us is the corrupt politicians in DC.

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            • Anonymous says:

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              • Preppers here are a finicky, an enigmatic group, Anonymous. On one hand, they are extremely patriotic and stand tall with the Constitution, willing to even die for the cause, if need be; admirable qualities. But then, on the other hand, while Vets probably comprise a large percentage of SWAT team members, participating in over 80,000 raids a year in America (often times ruthlessly punishing law abiding citizens), and more than likely, almost all of those standing against the Constitution in Bunkerville in their SWAT uniforms and sniper rifles, siding with the corporate fascists, it bewilders me to see how veterans are perceived here, most often seen as the good guys. Why you are getting so many thumbs down by telling a truth that is often overlooked, or considered politically incorrect to acknowledge, shows how mentally/emotionally divided, even preppers are, about who are “really” the good guys and who are the bad guys. It is a “right is wrong” and “wrong is right” world we now live in today, hard it discern who is the enemy and who isn’t.

                There are amazingly great veterans out there, but more and more of them (younger ones) are siding with the dark side, and that is creating a very volatile and dangerous environment for all Americans, especially those who see what’s coming.

                PS Your delivery might want to be toned down, next time, for your message to be more effective. On the other hand, I tend to agree with your overall point of view. And as each day goes by, and as more brainwashed vets side with the the corporate fascist police, I think the focus here will tend to be towards “those” who would side with the dark side, who exactly (names and addresses) and why.

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                Good luck with that,,,
                Anonymous, because nobody will remember your cowardly ass.
                Have a nice day

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              • Kevin2 says:

                I don’t blame the Vets however they post WWII fought for Wall Street not the protection of Main Street. Every “war” (which they don’t have the balls to call it that while its on) is not WWII over and over again.

                I feel as sorry for the US deaths in Vietnam and equally sorry for the Vietnamese that were killed. Those people after being mistreated by the French, fighting the Japanese and promised by us that the French would not return post WWII victory deserved better. Stopping a re-unification election because we didn’t the the person that would have won does not bode well for our mantra of Freedom and Democracy. Creating a false flag event to hoodwink Congress to support a military action and fragmenting our country in the process then attempting to re-write history bypassing the roots of involvement and focusing on the bravery in battle is deceitful to the core.

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                • Kevin2 says:

                  Haste makes waste (and typos)

                  “Stopping a re-unification election because we didn’t the the person that would”

                  Stopping a re-unification election because we didn’t LIKE the person that would

                  oops

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              • John W. says:

                Not by a cunt like you. That we know. Now go play with your Barbie doll.

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              • A VETERAN says:

                I AM GLAD YOU ARE SAFE AND DO NOT HAVE TO FIGHT IN A WAR. WE WILL STILL TAKE CARE OF YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU HATE US. YOU HAVE RIGHTS ALSO. ONE DAY YOUR TIME WILL COME AND YOU WILL GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU DONT DIE. I HAVE SEEN THIS MANY A TIME. RETHINK YOUR POSITION AND LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE. ITS NOT ABOUT THE FEES, IT IS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT, IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, READ, READ, READ, AND THEN GIVE ANOTHER OPINION. THIS IS AMERICA, YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND.

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            • lastmanstanding says:

              Well said brother.

              nomi.

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            • maddog says:

              I’m with you 100%. I push for the reset every single day. America has become a toilet I can no longer be proud of and many of the sheeple are nothing but giant turds filling the bowl as Durango kidd has proven repeatedly. Bring on the RESET. Commence with the long overdue great culling.

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              • Jim Smith says:

                I agree with that statement. I’m so tired of this dragging on day after day. We all know the government/banksters are going to push the RESET button one day but when?

                Just get it started and do what you are going to do banksters/gubmint.

                The People are tired of all the games.

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              • John W. says:

                maddog,
                Ever realize that it may be you and yours that get culled? Better be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

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            • Old GUy says:

              I honestly don’t care about lists or thumbs down. Im my own person and ill pick my own battles. Im pretty shure when the baby boomer generation dies off the next generation of hormone laced food eating tele tubbies wont care what the government does. The USA experiement in freedom had a little over 200 years of existence. It began to go downhill and take freedoms beginning with the Whisky Rebellion and steadily eroded away over the time. The loss has accelerated the last few decades. You might not believe it but the UN NWO is now our government. the middle class producing worker is no longer wanted or needed. There isn’t any viable political or ballot box solution. The Republic is now a Mob Rule Democracy.You cant kill them all. you cant even inform & enlighten the sheeple. So what and where does that leave?

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              • maddog says:

                Many of us believe it leaves us with a reset option. A book titled “The Forth Turning” explains it well. I agree with the state of this country, however as long as I’m breathing I do not intend to turn it over the way it is to my children without doing everything possible to keep them free.

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                • Ghost Rider says:

                  maddog;
                  100% agree.

                  Old Guy;
                  I’m not sure what happened to you the last few months but you have obviously given up. And that is a shame. But many of us have not, and will not!

                  GR

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              • Pissed Off Granny says:

                I agree with a lot of your post today. However, have you got kids or grandkids?

                That is what us older folks are concerned about.

                Can’t stand to think they will be slaughtered just like the commie Bolsheviks did when they cleared the Russian landscape of all Christians.

                It is coming soon to America. TPTB is just pushing us, issue after issue, to see just what it takes to “light our fire”.

                They are a patient bunch, those ‘evil’ beings, it has taken over 200 years to strangle their last holdout…America.

                They have worked through our pastor/churches, our schools/colleges, our government, etc. They have left no stone unturned. Our guns are our last hope, lose them and we will be in FEMA camps, waiting to see if we will be used as slaves, or deemed useless….

                For your kids sake, stand up and be counted.

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                • maddog says:

                  Thank POG I’ve been trying to say the same thing forever and I get so frustrated the words should I say become colorful and then well I guess it doesn’t come over as well as you have. Thanks again.

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                • CBGB's says:

                  Now that’s the Pissed Off Granny I like to see. Well said.

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                • Them Guys says:

                  PO’D Granny: Right, And anybody who don’t believe that the EXACT same Jewish Bolshevist Attitude IN Todays America IS the EXACT same as was in, Russia 1918 onwards thru Most of the 20th Century Mass muderous Killing Spree By Design to EXTERMINATE Mainly WHITES and CHRISTIANS?

                  Feast on THis Tidbit quote from One of THE TOP Heads of Judaic Tlmudic Bolhsevisim, wom himself Killed 10 MILLION souls of which it is Well proved and Documented!

                  I DARE Any Sane Patriot American to Show us that what this quote says is not whats Occureing TODAY, & the Past 50+ yrs and BY the SAME Tribe of Jews! And By Show us I mean with Proof it is Not the same tribe doing to usa what Their grandaddys and grandmas, jew kommies Did to Russia and a Dozen more eastern euro nations back then.

                  “We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red in the literal sense of that word, for we shall shed such streams of blood that all the losses of human lives in Capitalist wars will shrink and pale before them. The biggest bankers on the other side of the Atlantic will work in very close collaboration with us. If we win the Revolution, crush Russia, we shall consolidate the power of Zionism on her funereal remains and become such a force that the whole world will go down on its knees before it. We will show what real power is.”

                  (Aaron Simanovich, “Memoirs”, Paris, 1922, Molodaya Gvardiya, Moscow, No. 6, 1991, p. 55.)

                  – Leon Trotsky (born Lev Davidovich Bronstein) in Petrograd, in Dec. 1917, Trotsky was both an ardent Zionist, as well as Bolshevik, and one of the biggest butchers of the 1917 Red Revolution. After a major power struggle with Stalin, he worked for the subversion, degradation and overthrow of Western society from his villa in Mexico until Ramon Mercader (probable Stalin agent) put an ice pick through his skull in 1940.

                  Think Trotsky wasn’t Activly Teaching Mexicans how to be Good little KOMMIES? Wondering Why Most illeagles and even Legit Mexicans that enter into USA, and Remain, are so Quick to Accept all forms communisim, from the dem Lib Leftists?…Maybe Trotsky’s Teachings while IN mexico untill his death has something to do with that attitude eh…

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          • durango kidd says:

            Resistance is NOT futile. Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote … by ballot if possible …. by bullet if necessary. Create a Freedom Cell where you live.

            Just make sure your cause is grounded, founded, and imbedded in the Bill of Rights! :-)

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              • maddog says:

                Don’t know why you received so many thumbs down. DK isn’t even a good armchair patriot.

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              • Them Guys says:

                AND: Just to Clarify things for any of those Delusional, “so called” christian folks aka jewdeo-christians and zio christos who rant and rage that its “Only a Small FEW” that are the Bad ones!

                Yeah same as african blacks, its Always “Just that 95-98% of Bad ones that make things look so Bad even for them “good” ones” eh!

                FROM: Their OWN mouth’s as Quoted and Documented.

                Heres What Jews MEAN when they claim to be a “MESSIANIC Jew” It has ZERO to do with ANY belief in Jesus Christ, as so many deluded jewdeo christian evangelical foolishly think!…They Plan to be their OWN “god aka messiah”! by Defeat of ALL Non jew Goyim gentiles!(Thats YOU whitey and Afroboy!).

                “The Jewish people taken collectively will be its own Messiah. His reign over the Universe will be obtained by the unification of the human races and through the elimination of frontiers.(borders of nations) A Universal Republic will come into being in which the Sons of Israel will become the directing element. We know how to dominate the Masses. The governments of all nations will gradually fall, through victory of the proletariat, into the hands of Judah. All private property will become the possession of the Princes of Israel they will own the wealth of all lands. Thus will be realized the promise of the Talmud that when the time of the Messiah comes the Jews will hold under their keys the property of all the peoples of the world.”

                — Baruch Levy in an old letter to Karl Marx, published in the Rothschild-controlled La Revue de Paris (a real literature magazine and not an “anti-Semitic” source), page 574 on June 1, 1928. Jews always try to say it’s a hoax, but go HERE(Link at orig website quotes at, www dot incogman dot net, click at TOP of main page, “Revealing Quotes” to find This quote and Links of Proof etc).

                IF a so called “GOOD One”? When will they Denounce This quote by a US supreme zionist jew justice You all heard of?

                “Let us recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.”

                — Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Ct. Justice, Zionism, page 113

                Do Any Jewish folks Refute These quotes, and rejct what is said?…None I am aware of have.

                “The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud.”

                — Michael Rodkinson, in preface of Babylonian Talmud, page XI.

                “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, or ceremonies we observe — whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, or merely spasmodic sentimentalists — we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”

                — Herman Wouk, “This is My God.” (regardless what Some Pro jew, pro israel christians Want to believe, That says it ALl…Lets hears rejection of it By Jews instead of wishfull to be correct, jewdeo-christian deluded folk eh.)

                “What is the basis of Judaism? A practical passion and greed for profit. To what can we reduce his (the Jew’s) religious worship? To extortion. What is his real God? Cash!”

                — Karl Marx, founder of Communism, quoted in the British Guardian, July-August, 1924. (Marx also was Jewish,his Dad, Granddad and Great grandfather all THREE were Pharise Talmudic Rabbis).

                America will NEVER succeed in ANY Victory over current Tyranny, utill a Vasy Majority of american folks Realize who and What the True enemy tyrants are. They aint “moooslims”…They aint Aliens from Mars! nor all those “TPTB” type slogans that simply HIDE the True nature of Who they truely are and have been for Centuries!

                10,000 red thumbs or vile name calls won’t change the Real…TRUTH! Of which I have Posted Here from the kommie jews Own quoted words…Wake Up America! Wake Up, Whiteys!

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            • Infidels-r-us says:

              DK. I for one from this point on refuse to read your posts. You have shown that you are probably in reality working out of the new mega-gov NSA spy center. You are so full of shit.

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          • Barn Cat says:

            I’m sure the NSA is tracking me. I’m sure they know my location so they can match it with my other user ID’s on other websites. That’s another reason why you don’t want to advocate violence. No point in raising your threat matrix. If I had 10,000 or 100,000 rounds of ammo I wouldn’t share that online either for the same reason.

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        • Stan522 says:

          I would think just about EVERYONE in a gun shop is upset of the size and scope of government, but would any gun shop owner really give a rats ass what the FBI wanted to know?

          Besides, why would the FBI even need to go to a gun shop…? Isn’t the NSA collecting conversations through email and voice?

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          • durango kidd says:

            Its all about intimidation; at least an attempt at intimidation. The visit couldn’t have been more effective to jolt the Liberty Movement and Smaller Government Caucus than if he had said:

            “Don’t tell anyone I was here!” :-)

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          • kimintn says:

            ok, here comes the backwards thinking again; what if this fbi agent is on our side and was very visible to the shop owner to let the small govt group know what the bureau has ongoing? we know there are insiders who have to be careful, not all agents are sloppy accidentially…

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          • Night Breaker says:

            They are doing it to stir up the kind of response that. Is happening here ,
            It’s an old technique get them mad enough and not think , just react .

            We have to be WISE to this , calm , calculating and patient when the time comes for action there will be no,question about it . We are being tested. Do not act the way TPTB want you to.

            They are trying to make a confrontation happen on their terms.
            What happened at the bundy ranch is an example , it has very little to do with out standing bills.
            The response by the BLM did not warrant their show of firepower to collect an overdue bill.
            If people had not done what they did that family would have been killed with no witnesses and only the Governments account of what happened. Wether Bundy was riight or wrong pertaining to grazing rights does not matter , the heavy handed response was what mattered. Excessive force by the Government in response to an administrative matter.

            This will not be the last of these events expect them to build momentum untill it affects all of us then a time will come and the American people will have had enough , it’s starting now , something is coming . Prepare .

            LIBERTY WILL PREVAIL.

            BEHIND EVERY BLADE OF GRASS

            VARMINT RULES

            III%

            Semper Fi 8541

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        • Mountain Trekker says:

          I’m confused. Is Profiling only wrong, when it’s done to Blacks and Muslims? Trekker Out. Free Men Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!

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        • DaisyK says:

          They visited the Bundy demonstration. According to this article, they arrested 16 and have identified 85% of the other protesters — conducting background checks — planning to confiscate their guns.

          http://nationalreport.net/multiple-militia-members-arrested-bundy-ranch-charged-domestic-terrorism/

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      • JayJay says:

        Michael Ruppert died.
        R.I.P. buddy. Your book had a great inpact on waking me.

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      • Tito...The Angry American says:

        Funny thing about the surveillance State. The Trillion
        dollar network, can be easily defeated with a $3.00
        disguise!!!!! Wear a Burka, They’ll think your a Muslim
        & leave you alone!!! I Like doing this in Vegas!! They
        can’t stand it when they can’t ID Someone!!!

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    2. Texas Slouch says:

      Funny, you are guilty if you are a new customer or purchase in cash. See something, say something. Of course the oligarchs like Harry Reid and Chinese want you disarmed. They will put the screws to us in the next 5 years and go for complete disarmament of the U.S. Cannot rollout a one world govt with an armed populace.

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      • Hunter says:

        Texas-

        Yep, they’re going to attempt disarming the populace. As its a prerequisite for total control over, their vision of a future society/civilization.

        In truth, they’re not worried overmuch about the guns. They’re very worried about ‘how’ some will use them and specifically ‘who’ will be deemed a ‘deserving target’?

        Think about it………

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        • the renegade braveheart says:

          Hunter, ANYONE who comes to my place with evil intentions toward me is a “deserving target”. MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS ASMS braveheart

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            Braveheart, in their mind they are doing what is right, it is guys like you and i who are the bad guys, and im sure to many of the pansy lib progressives too.
            Dont care, i would rather be dead than one of these zombie idiots.

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            • Sierra Dave says:

              I disagree. The Politicians knowingly lie to us all the time. IMHO, most LE know they are following crooks and violating the Constitution. And they do it just for a paycheck.

              I think the complexity of our society mixed with a Thugocracy leads to failure.

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                SD,,
                That was what I was saying,,,
                The asshat politicians and their idiot LEO followers all think they are in the right and we are the enemy.

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            • the renegade braveheart says:

              Kulafarmer, I’m with you all the way. I’m most likely on lists going back to the Clinton era, but I don’t care. We all know there’s no legitimate basis for anything this govt. does. I don’t care what they think of me. I’m not the one with bad intentions toward other people. I’m not the one who’s ruining the country.

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        • Pissed Off Granny says:

          Hunter:

          Good to see you posting again.

          Tonight I tuned into see what Hannity had to say about the Bundy situation. Seems he has finally determined what the feral government is doing to the Bundys isn’t right.

          Wonder if his facebook page looked like Becks facebook page and he decided he had better at least look like he is supporting Bundys position now or his viewers will continue to desert him until faux news will take him completely off their schedule.

          Wouldn’t it be amazing if the Bundy standoff caused Beck’s empire to fail? The Lord works in mysterious ways…..

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          • Walt Kowalski says:

            I heard Hannity’s interview of Bundy on his radio program.

            I was amazed at how little real understanding Hannity has of the situation and issues there.

            He really needs to research these things better before he runs with the story. He just makes himself look like a total idiot.

            Cavuto does a much better job, as does Greta Van Susteren. They are real journalists.

            Hannity is just a talking head.

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            • durango kidd says:

              Walt: Better check your meds .. we agree! :-)

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            • Wilson says:

              Walt,
              The one thing that many of the talking heads don’t grasp is life on ranches in the western US. Many people living in the major cities (Salt Lake, Denver, Phoenix, Spokane, etc.) in the western US don’t understand it either. Most people don’t understand where their food comes from. They don’t grasp it because of the complexities created by mixed land ownership (federal, state, and private). They don’t grasp multiple agencies having a say over how the land should be managed or used. My point being that Hannity, Greta, and Cavuto, the people you mentioned, just don’t get “it”.

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              • John W. says:

                Hannity is a multi millionaire who lives on Long Islands Gold Coast and has no idea of trying to ranch in the Nevada desert. Just driving through it in the Summer is depressing.

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            • John W. says:

              Hannity is just an idiot who is as bad as O’Reilly when it comes to talking over his guests. He was however actually fairly good with Bundy. Bundy sounds like a good man but I would not be surprised to see his ranch raided and he going to jail or worse.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          4th Generation Warfare

          sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/04/tyrants-beware-4th-generation-warfare.html?m=1

          Heres the link for a refresher, add the usual prefix

          Thank you Mike for this article, God Bless

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      • JayJay says:

        I’m a new, nervous customer at a gun shop using cash, buying in bulk for Gene, not knowing s**t about firearms, and I’m a terrorist suspect while Harriet fricking Reid sales land belonging to Nevadans to the Chinese and he’s NOT!!! :-(

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      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Only the Chi-coms are allowed to use cash to purchase items without impunity in the US. Arable land comes to mind.

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    3. db427 says:

      I’d like someone to get into contact with the Columbia, South Carolina gun shop. have them go through their video of this guy, and post it. they are looking for average americans, why not look for them as well is my thought.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Excellent, kinda like posting name, address and contact info for these treasonous politicians.

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        • sixpack says:

          …or doing like the NSA and, storing it for “future reference”…

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          • durango kidd says:

            Make a list. Check it twice. Know who has been naughty and who has been nice …. in your neck of the woods.

            You are responsible for the defense of the US Constitution where you live. :-)

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            • Kulafarmer says:

              Who are you and what have you done with Durango Kid?
              DK would say something about voting and engaging your employees,,,

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              • durango kidd says:

                There is still time to vote engage OUR employees politically. Every successful political movement, every freedom movement, has both a political organization and armed rebels. One cannot be successful without the other when facing an entrenched, tyrannical authority.

                Gun Confiscation is NOT negotiable. :-)

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              • John W. says:

                His handlers must have coached him on a new approach to his target audience.

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            • maddog says:

              Really, but you say supporting fellow Americans who are terrorized by government contractors with snipers is wrong.

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    4. Ordinary Average Guy says:

      The thought police again. Freedom to speak your mind, and what we all refer to as freedom is again under attack by subversive means. I understand the need for public safety and to thwart evil doers, but if the left succeeds America will be a third world backwater of decrepit has been cities and the poverty stricken inhabitants therein.
      I hold little hope for a reversal of fortune.

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    5. islander says:

      Holy crap , that flyer is the most dumb ash list ever . Do they really think anyone behaving like that would be sold anything . What a bunch of boobs . Got to make you position seem legit somehow I guess

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    6. Ugly says:

      No cash? What do we do with all that excess printing? Got to move it somehow. Maybe they are telling us that cash is becoming useless or unneeded….

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      • Gonetoolong says:

        Govt hates cash. This is just another “good” reason for them to demonize it. Me, I love cash. Hate data and all the bullshit that comes from them tracking it.

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      • Old GUy says:

        Actually there isn’t a over abundance of cash paper money. Granted the Mint prints 24 X7. However paper money quickly wears out. So lots of paper money is burned every day. Most of the newly printed cash is dollar bills. Now If the mint starts printing paper valued in excess of $100.00 then look out. Most of the trillions of dollars in debt exist on paper documents like a home mortgage ect. The banks don’t have a lot of cash on hand. If a 100 depositers went in to most banks and each wanted to withdraw a $1000.00 from their accounts most banks would run short of cash.

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    7. NC Hillbilly says:

      the gun shops isn’t going to report nothing cause now they know what the federal govt is up to.the gun shops are not stupid,the stupid ones is the jackass federal govt.

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      • Ghost Rider says:

        NC Hillbilly,
        I was thinking the same thing. Every shop I have ever been to the owner is usually the first one to bring up big gov and the retards in power.

        GR

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    8. Barry Soetoro says:

      I love Big Government. You can’t have hope and change without Big Government. Give me more of that Big Government goodness!

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    9. Socrates says:

      “-Payment in cash or someone else’s credit card”

      They *really* cannot wait to do away with the king, CASH.
      Not as easily tracked with no paper trail. Imagine that.

      Here’s some more bad news along the lines of this post. Not good. (from Steve Quayle site)

      THE USA BRASS RAID ON BOZEMAN WAS TO OBTAIN THE NAMES OF 10,000 RELOADERS AND GUN OWNERS USING BOGUS CHARGES

      Most of you will be aware that armed employees of the EPA and FBI recently conducted an armed raid on a company in Bozeman that recycles used cartridge brass. This email is to give you additional information that was not in the news about that, to tell you what I’ve been doing concerning the raid, and to prepare you to help with the next step.

      Several months ago, OSHA visited the business, USA Brass, because of allegations of workplace safety issues, notably lead dust in the air from tumbling fired brass (the lead dust would be from primers). There were two employees who had lead levels above what is acceptable. As a result, USA Brass invested a lot of money in expensive air filtration and ventilation equipment, and upgraded employee training and practices. As a result, USA Brass passed a subsequent inspection by OSHA.

      However, upon OSHA’s first visit, I’m told, USA Brass managers didn’t kneel quickly enough to OSHA inspectors and offended them by not being subserviently cooperative. So, the subsequent raid by EPA, FBI and others was conducted to teach them a lesson about federal power and proper cooperation.

      I have yet to learn if the federal entry was conducted with guns drawn, but that will come out. Many, if not all, of the federal employees were visibly armed (thanks to the local TV station for covering this). The federal employees were aided and abetted by personnel from the Bozeman Police Department and the Gallatin County Sheriffs Office.

      Upon arrival, the federal employees forced all the employees into a room or rooms where they were isolated and held for hours. The employees cell phones were confiscated so they could have no communication out of the building. The feds disabled all of the security cameras in the building so there would be no video record of the federal deeds or misdeeds. The feds confiscated and took away all laptop computers and external hard drives, and copied all desktop hard drives, including USA Brass’s contact information for 10,000 customers.

      I see this as a Montana version of what’s happening in Nevada. And, I see no reason to put up with it. None!

      What is known about the Bozeman raid presents more questions than it answers. I put those questions in a polite letter to the U.S. Attorney for Montana and asked him to look into it. He has not responded. I assume my very polite request went into his round file.

      With no response from the U.S. Attorney, I redirected my request for an investigation to Montana Attorney General Tim Fox. That request, which includes the request to the U.S. Attorney, is pasted below for your information. I’ve had no response from Fox yet.

      If I don’t get a response from AG Fox by Tuesday (actually, later today as I write this at 2 AM), I’ll turn up the heat.

      One additional tidbit: Lawyers for USA Brass have persuaded the principals that they should hunker down and make no waves, for fear of triggering more Draconian and punitive federal actions. While I sympathize with USA Brass, frankly this posture strikes me as similar to advising Jews in pre-WWII Germany to not make any fuss over their neighbors being hauled away in the night by the Gestapo, for fear that the remaining neighbor might be executed right in his apartment then next night by the same Gestapo, rather than just being given a nice train ride to an undisclosed destination.

      That’s all. If/when I need your help with this, I’ll get out another email. Stay tuned for more as I learn more.

      Best wishes,
      Gary Marbut, President
      Montana Shooting Sports Association
      http://www.mtssa.org

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      • the renegade braveheart says:

        Socrates, I understand whatever USA Brass does for themselves is their own affair, but UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD I HUNKER DOWN AND NOT MAKE WAVES. WHEN I’M ATTACKED BY ANYONE WITH EVIL INTENTIONS TOWARD ME, NEITHER HUNKERING DOWN NOR NOT MAKING WAVES IS IN MY VOCABULARY. THAT’S WHEN ITS TIME TO STAND UP AND FIGHT. I’VE NEVER HEARD OF ANY INDIVIDUAL AND/OR FAMILY SURVIVING A HOME INVASION B SIMPLY SUBMITTING TO THE POS ATTACKING THEM. LET ANYONE COME TO MY HOME WITH ANY SUCH INTENTIONS AND THEY’LL FIND OUT DAMNED QUICK THAT I DON’T PLAY, I DON’T GO ALONG WITH ANY SUCH BS! To Mac and everyone else, once again I’m sorry about the all caps. I’m not trying to be like Eisen, God forbid. everyone here knows my position on self-defense and other related issues; you know my passion as well. MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS ASMS braveheart

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      • MXLord327 says:

        Gary, might I make a suggestion? If you could write a couple form letters that we could all copy and paste into e-mails, and provide the e-mail addresses of anyone you think needs to feel heat over this, we could deluge them with the letters. The more the better, and post them on a bunch of different websites.

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    10. NC Hillbilly says:

      you think the gun shops are really going to report anything after the agent exposed what they are up to.cmon lol

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    11. aljamo says:

      It is ironic that in our youth we veterans were drawn into the supposed defense of our country and democracy, even the draftees. Before us our ancestors willfully joined to defend our way of life and defeat whatever ideology opposed our leader’s aims. Generations of servicemen and women served the ideal of a just America, founded on freedom. Fast forward to the awakening of present day reality. We who choose to speak out and defend ourselves and our freedoms have become the enemy of our own government. That can only be because we demand the truth and TPTB refuse to allow it.

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    12. the renegade braveheart says:

      There’s nothing new about this FBI activity. I first started seeing this in gun stores back in 1993 after Waco. The FBI was putting out similar BS even then. I use cash for all of my gun and gun-related purchases anyway. Whatever I buy and have is NOBODY ELSE’S F#$%ING BUSINESS. If someone wants to get froggy and jump me about it, “Bertha” will have the final say-so over that. Go ahead and have your so-called “lists” all you want. We have our own “lists” of feds/commies/NWO lackeys to deal with when the time comes. Can you hear me now, NSA? MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS ASMS braveheart

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    13. Maybe the gun shop owner should have given the agent a tip and said he heard that a guy named Holder was buying guns for drug Cartels in Mexico? That seems pretty suspicious to me.

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    14. Stephen says:

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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      • sixpack says:

        THAT’S EXACTLY WHO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, Stephen.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        What about the farmer who is pissed because the FSMA is going to put him out of business and is buying 3 ARs and 100# of powder?

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      • Mountain Trekker says:

        Stephen, You made me feel so safe and secure, and then along came sixpack and yanked the rug out from under me. Boy that warm and fuzzy feeling didn’t last long. Trekker Out.

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      • maddog says:

        The “old guy” almost did in Bunkerville, NV. Took a lot of patriots to ensure a snipers 308 didn’t go through his head. And he wasn’t armed with even a fishing pole, although I’m told he may of had a lasso.

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        • John W. says:

          What was the most upsetting about this incident was that they brought in snipers for what is a civil law matter. That should no longer surprise us but it shows just what the game plan was and how far so called law enforcement has sunk. Totally uncalled for and the sheriff of that area better make it clear that any snipers will be arrested and prosecuted. On either side.

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    15. armed citizen says:

      Sounds like my county here in AZ. Most pay in cash, Hate big gov etc. It’s started people, NV was the first battle, I fear it gets bloody from here. It’s gonna be a long war. Well like that famous quote.. “if there must be trouble, let it be in my day that my children would know peace” Thomas Paine.

      Long Live the Republic!

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      • PA farmer says:

        Armed citizen when learning history( I have been to the battle feilds Gettysburg, down in Virginia), I would Wonder what could Possibly make theses MEN leave everything they Loved farms,family,loved ones, to travel too far off places on foot knowing their Chances of making it back home where low. Now I completely understand..

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        • durango kidd says:

          Their cause was just. Rancher Bundy’s cause is not just. He is a trespasser, thief, and deadbeat. A Corporate Rancher pigging out at the Public Trough.

          There is no moral, ethical, or legal equivalent here. :-(

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          • PA farmer says:

            Dk, I know, I know, you have copied and Pasted that 100 times. Move on. I’m talking about gov control, and are Freedoms disappearing like a glass of water in the hot sun..

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          • John W. says:

            You are a govt, shill posting the same bogus points over and over. Then again that’s what they pay you to do. You are most likely a world class dead beat yourself. Professional envy on your part.

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      • maddog says:

        Exactly

        “if there must be trouble, let it be in my day that my children would know peace” Thomas Paine.

        Thank you for bringing this up AC

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    16. Ricky Ross says:

      Not only do I talk about big Government, I also talk about TYRANNICAL Government!

      Massive surveillance of an entire nation, secret prisons, secret courts, secret laws, secret judges, secret police, secret interpretation of laws, secret list, secret hearings, secret evidence, militarization of local police forces, the largest prison population on earth, internal
      spy drones, millions of internal domestic spies, indefinite detention without charge or trial under NDAA, TSA violating the 4th Amendment thousands of times every day for the last 12+ years and now they are being deployed onto public streets to do the same, DHS & other Federal agencies purchase of enough ammo to sustain a 25 year war, DHS purchase of 9,000 armored check point booths from “Shelters Direct” in April 2012, theft of citizens private property via Asset Forfeiture Program, forced purchase of corporate commodities (Obamacare), Eminent Domain, Government Propaganda made LEGAL via Congress (July 2013) through the propaganda media, a call for the arrest of journalist, eugenics programs, endless wars, Taxation without representation, Theft of TRILLIONS of taxpayers $$$ via TARP, etc, etc, etc,

      If one has been paying attention, how could you not talk about it???

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      • Pissed Off Granny says:

        Ricky Ross:

        Well said.

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      • Oldfart says:

        Secrecy is the keystone of all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy . . . censorship. When any government, or any Church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects “This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know,” the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything— you can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him.
        Robert A.Heinlein. “Revolt in 2100.”

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        • sixpack says:

          In the Bundy case, force was avoided by the lack of secrecy. I firmly believe the Bundys would be dead, had it not been for the thousand + witnesses who stood with them.

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      • MXLord327 says:

        RR – When you put it like that, what is left of the USA makes Nazi Germany and the USSR look like paradise!!! RIP Constitutional Republic….

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    17. Stew Pedaso says:

      If you are spouting off in a gun store you are a reTard, and so are the FBI for going there. You want to hear that kind of garbage go to the outskirt bars. Loose lips sink ships. I use my neighbors internet signal cuz he don’t put a password on it and when I go to any store I go in get what I need, (don’t explain myself) and get out. Most people here know I am a chef so when I come to the counter with 50 lbs of parboil rice it’s normal. Ya gots to know how to move in and out of society. And Yes they are reading this too.

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    18. JayJay says:

      Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has launched a full federal investigation into President Obama and Senator Harry Reid’s involvement in the attempted land grab by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).

      nationalreport.net/issa-launches-federal-investigation-obamas-involvement-clive-bundy-land-grab/

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      • JayJay says:

        We have what we believe to be the smoking gun in this investigation and subpoenas will be sent out and those responsible will be forced to testify in a court of law.

        nationalreport.net/issa-launches-federal-investigation-obamas-involvement-clive-bundy-land-grab/

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        • Socrates says:

          JayJay-

          Possibly. With the history of vile people ‘lying under oath’ and other such evil… “What difference will it make?”. The courts and judges are ALL corrupt and in contempt. :(

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        • Walt Kowalski says:

          Yeah….forced to testify the way Lois Lerner has been forced to testify.

          As for subpoenas….they’ll be ignored or “executive privilege” will be claimed and they’ll be refused.

          This is a lawless government and as such is illegitimate.

          It should be viewed the same way in which the colonies viewed the government of Britain in 1776.

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      • Pissed Off Granny says:

        And JayJay, he will get to the bottom of it about the year after old Harry dies of old age…..MAYBE.

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        • JayJay says:

          Just so it’s before ole Bundy dies like the case with this guy.

          blog.heritage.org/2013/06/11/court-rebuffs-government-overreach-in-nevada/

          Sadly, Wayne Hage, the patriarch of the Hage family, did not live to see his eventual triumph over the Interior Department.

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      • sixpack says:

        Yes I saw that JayJay—good catch! At least the “scandal” will now get a little daylight…since they can’t change the fact that the document has already debuted.

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      • John W. says:

        Daryl Issa. What a joke. I bet they are just shaking in their shoes. Not one single investigation he has ever started has ever gone anywhere. It is all kabuki theatre to lull the sheep into thinking they really have a say in things. He makes some noise and then just lets the issues die a quiet death. So sad that people still get their hopes up.

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    19. Logicrazy says:

      It is a sign of where things are going to say the least, but if they were not concerned, would be a sign of weakness? The main problem for any empire or government in the past is the flames of discontent. Many things fan these mes and there is not much left after these flames consume the populace. So it is no wonder why they are visiting gun stores..

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    20. THE ENEMY, advertising for more fascist gang members.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im66lCgZrbc

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      • Charley Waite says:

        Sure looks exciting and all, getting to wear all that cool tactical gear busting into people’s houses and using that riot shield. What kind of person will respond to that ad? The kind of person we all are wary of. Nice catch from youtube

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      • MXLord327 says:

        Some of the comments on that Youtube video are great!

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    21. PA farmer says:

      Its like Brandon says they just keep moving the line a little at a time. We need to learn from the niggers and the faggots, an leftwing nut jobs , an get on the roof tops and start Screaming, this is Racist, Profiling. The people wont learn till their in chains working the masters fields. Adolf Hitler should be mandatory reading..

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      • durango kidd says:

        When we have to get on the rooftops, take a lunch and a scope. :-)

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        • sixpack says:

          :)

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Damn, theres that imposter again, who are you and what have you done with DK

          Ill ask the question i had above here again,
          Are you country born and raised or city/suburb born and raised
          Blue collar or white collar

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          • durango kidd says:

            I am a professional now. But I was born poor. Dirt poor. So poor, in fact, we didn’t even own any dirt. :-)

            While I can wear a suit and tie or tux as required, I am usually dressed in a sport shirt, athletic shorts, and tennis shoes or sandals.

            Ya gotta love that Arizona weather. :-)

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            • durango kidd says:

              Do the clothes make the man, or does the man make the clothes, in hawaii?

              Just asking. :-)

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                Dirt poor fine, but were you a city dweller?

                The clothes dont mean shit, we have all kinds here,

                And while money is nice it only causes problems from what i have deduced.

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              • Kulafarmer says:

                Hey DK
                Finally read your reply way at the top, not sure why you got so many thumbs down, nothing at all wrong with being raised in a small town in the farm country,,,
                Thats my life too, shot the theory i had as to why you were so adamantly opposed to the Bundy issue,,, doesnt matter, we all have our own opinions right,
                John Mellencamp still has a rockin bunch of tunes, love em!
                Cheers

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            • John W. says:

              Figures you are from McLames state. Az.used to have normal people. What happened? Only place worth a damn is Prescott.

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        • JayJay says:

          :-) :-) :-)

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    22. Hoosier Veteran says:

      During the Clinton administration, a local gunstore was visited by a person asking if any customers had been voicing “Anti-Government” sentiments. The owner told the fellow that he had a complete list and then threw the telephone book onto the counter. The man left without another word.

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    23. PO'd Patriot says:

      If that agent had walked into a gun store that belonged to me and came up with this bullshit, I would have told him, ” Yeah, I know just the man you need to check out….Eric Holder”. BTW, I’m only a racist on certain days of the week and today is one of them. What a bunch of dim bulb bastards.

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    24. Say When says:

      This surveillance is not new. Years ago after 9/11 the feds were going to all the military surplus stores and wanted the owners and workers to inform them (the FBI) of anyone buying more than a couple ammo cans or other military type equipment. Local owner told them to go to hell, he aint doing their job for them. I suppose that the only way around this kind of harassment is to find an illegal alien or muslim to purchase the items from the gun shop, since they seem to be the only ones above suspicion now.

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    25. watching and waiting says:

      Pay in cash—-Because I can.
      Discuss Big Government—–Because I can.
      Be unsure about a certain firearm I am unfamiliar with—Because I can.

      Did not Ronald Reagan run on a small government platform?

      Another attempt to to curtail free speech…..

      Gun shops may also want to closely examine applications of new employees…..

      And yes, I am concerned about Middle eastern type people seeking
      information on weapons and asking questions a person who use guns should know…..

      Let’s see here……..Shoot me down with a million thumbs down if this statement is incorrect…….Did not a several mid eastern men go to a flight training center in Florida and take flight lessons in a simulator and they were only concerned about
      flying and not taking off and landing….and somehow they manage to fly two aircraft into the twin towers, one into the pentagon and another attempt disrupted by the passengers?

      If I owned a gun shop, I would ignore this mess and would not post no signs….

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      • JayJay says:

        No–it has been established many years ago.
        No middle eastern men flew into the twin towers.
        Where have you been for the past years??
        In a coma??
        Israel’s Mossad, Rumsfeld, and about 100 other a**holes.

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        • Pissed Off Granny says:

          JayJay:

          Watching is just one in millions that have bought the 9/11 koolaid.

          We had to have a reason to begin razeing and rapeing those middle eastern countries and for fine American families to send their sons and daughters to die once more so the Zionists could control another portion of the earth.

          Soon enough ‘they’ will conjure up a false flag so big that the majority of the sheeple in our nation will be begging the establishment for world war three.

          Heaven help us…….

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          • sixpack says:

            IMO, the Mossad flew those planes by remote, with the full approval of whomever in the govt told NORAD to stand down.

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          • watching and waiting says:

            No I have not…..and I don’t drink koolaid and I proved my point.

            That is as middle eastern men did not fly those planes, neither are gun owners responsible for the gun violence in the country and we are not the cause of the problems in the nation..
            One more thing, it is ok what you said, but don’t judge me because you don’t know me.

            Heaven help us…..you are more right than you realize.

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        • watching and waiting says:

          No coma. But I must say, each day I awaken I keep seeing the America I thought I know slip away.
          Wasn’t it was a miracle that the FAA could clear the skies as they did on that day and without ever having a reported practice drill?

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    26. eeder says:

      message to FBI and all fed nazis. Go fuck yourself. with a hot blow torch. up your ass.

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    27. Kevin2 says:

      Actually the Second Amendment is one of the few places that we have not only held our own but for lack of a better term obtained some victories. The state by state adoption of “Shall Issue” along with a USSC clarification of the wording of the Second Amendment were only dreamed about 25 years ago.

      The above being said the public has “taken it on the chin” pretty much across the board regarding the rest of the Bill Of Rights.

      The above infer’s that either the Second Amendment supporters have political cohesion and sufficient numbers to thwart encroachment or TPTB don’t desire their goal regarding this bad enough. It also infer’s that the demise of the rest of the Bill of Rights has fragmented or insufficient opposition or that TPTB want it badly enough to get their way regardless of the political blowback.

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      • sixpack says:

        The way I see it, TPTB are uber-rich oligarchs, using their money and ours to destroy us, in a financial system of their making. No matter how many lives are lost, we will never be free until we destroy THEIR financial system. That means that their system must have no power over our lives.

        We are going to have to give up the pursuit of financial system gains, and the use of fiat money.

        As long as we must live in THEIR system, we will continue to lose.

        I’m as ready for a financial collapse as I’ll ever be.

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    28. swinging richard says:

      The FBI agents have many shortcomings. Many times they create crimes to justify their jobs. They seek a certain type of person, offer to provide logistical support to carry out the crime, and run to the press with the news of a successful bust. There is enough real crime that needs their attention. Let them start with our politicos, that would be novel, but wait, who funds them?

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    29. Satori says:

      just more evidence as to how very vulnerable the electrical grid is

      Security holes in power grid have federal officials scrambling

      http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-grid-security-20140407,0,5068036.story#axzz2z0o728ZR

      hat tip Doomsteader over on SilentCountry

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    30. Grunty McPhereson says:

      This is getting out of control! I wonder how many other gun shops on “the Spreadsheet” were visited? Essentially, if people are smart, they don’t go spouting off about big govt. in public anyways. Remember the importance of OPSEC.

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    31. Sgt. Dale says:

      All this is, is Big brother is afraid that we are getting sick of their B.S. and are not going to take it any more.

      The FBI needs to go after the Street Gangs, and groups like CARE, that are doing all of the above.

      Oh wait they can’t because they are minorities!~ CAN YOU SAY BULL SHIT!!!

      I don’t want a race war with any race, or religion. The problem is that the Feds keep pushing the white man into a smaller and smaller corner. What the hell else can he do.

      This is all by design TPTB wants for us to strike back, so they can implement Martial Law, or what ever.
      They might just get a surprise! When we win the first battle, we will come after TPTB.
      Tall Trees Short Ropes!!!
      AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
      Sgt.

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    32. Mich says:

      “American woman faces two years in prison

      for throwing shoe at Hillary Clinton.”

      The leather didn’t match her face.

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    33. Poon Tang says:

      Started to listen to Glen Beck radio show yesterday. Within a few minutes I had to turn it off. Beck proceeded to praise Martin Luther King. If you praise a communist, you are a communist. If you praise a racist, you are a racist. Beck is a government phony. Always has been.

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      • maddog says:

        Wow same here except we were watching his TV show. After 5 minutes I told my wife that was the last time. Never again will I tune into Beck radio or TV.

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    34. Poon Tang says:

      Baltic Dry Index (ocean shipping rates) have dropped over 57% so far this year. Mortgage applications fell off the face of the earth, for the last month available. This is what a recovery looks like?

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    35. Poon Tang says:

      Fox News is Conservative? I watched a spokesman from the University of Denver on Fox News this AM talk about Ukraine. He was from the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University. Josef Korbel was a high ranking member of the Czechoslovakian Communist Party at the end of WW2. He is also the father of Madeleine Albright, Clinton’s Secretary of State. He is also the political mentor for Condoleeza Rice, from the George W. Bush administration. Two parties, one regime. Globalists.

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    36. www DOTexaminerDOTcom/article/martial-law-obama-confiscates-national-guard-helicopters-from-all-50-states

      if you dont understand the significance of this.. you should.

      prelude to our civil war, and the fact that Obama doesnt want any of these apace helis to fall in the hands of patriots, or supporters of our Constitution , in cluding the NG.. Hey NG youve been called out by your own admin..nice? isnt it?

      Stack em and pack em if you got em

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    37. wwwDOTnaturalnewsDOTcom/images/GMN-Photo-Bundy-Ranch-Standoff-8.jpg

      look at the picture where the guys are next to the “Ranger” truck with “ME4″ on the window

      see the second guy , the one behind the shield holder?

      see the “weapon” he has? its a dam paint ball gun

      the next guy holding a “weapon” it is a delivery device for bean bags or flash bangs

      now on to the guy with the M4 variant look very close to the end of the muzzle, it looks to be blocked off by some type of device

      so was this all just a psy ops..were the militia being bated to fire first and than be way layed due to the fact none of the BLM or anyone else was out there with real weapons.

      be careful patriots and militias you could be getting set up..or..OR.. the “operatives” from the government might have been getting set up by their own office and President!

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      • Ghost Rider says:

        VRF;
        I definitely would not put it past the gov to instigate a fight. You are correct about the paintball gun, but they use pepper balls. Think pepper spray with triple the range. I’m told it is very effective on crowd control.

        GR

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        • Ahh that might explain that tool than..sure seemed out of place for a Revolution or Civil war wouldnt you agree

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          • Ghost Rider says:

            I’m not sure… I pelted my buddy in the back of the head with a paint ball from about 5 feet away. He dropped to the ground and was flopping like a fish.

            I’m laughing now just thinking about that.

            GR

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            • funny you say that, I had one that was one of the very early models it only ran at about 280FPS but my nephew thought he was a billy bad ass and wanted me to hit him with it, well my training taught me to never fire on someone or aim at something i wasnt prepared to kill..so i acted like i was going to shoot between his legs , thats when he flinched and I hit him right in the shin at about 2 to 3 feet away

              yep he went down howling like a lil girl

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            • wrong says:

              So am I :-) I saw my son get hit right smack in the nuts one time in a paint ball game. As soon as it hit him he started throwing up.. He was crying an laughing at the same time. Never forget that. Too funny.

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              • durango kidd says:

                wrong: Now you know why I have often suggested here that Patriots aim for the groin when confronted by a government thug looking to confiscate OUR guns.

                They’ll die laughing. :-)

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      • JayJay says:

        VRF–all the SUVs had chalk-painted numbers on the windows–why??

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        • Night Breaker says:

          Radio unit call signs ( signifies a tactical units coms channel codes and identifiers) they were probably from differerent states , Also Aids in identification at check points / rondevouis points works like an IFF code (identify Friend or foe)

          This is mostly used by DHS on an active operation, was also used by Blackwater / academy in Iraq.

          Semper Fi 8541

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    38. suspicious says:

      Calling bullshit on this one. Maybe the rest is true, but there is just no-way an FBI agent specifically told a gun shop guy, “If you see some Middle Eastern guy come in. You don’t have to be so worried about that.” The rest sounds right up their alley and is bad enough. The story doesn’t need embellishment. Just my opinion.

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      • John W. says:

        People have lost their jobs who were doing anti terrorism training for mentioning Muslims and made them rewrite the training course to delete any reference to Muslims. You need to get out more. The Muslim Brotherhood is all through the govt. and rumor has it that the CIA head weenie is a Muslim as is someone else.

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    39. Anonymous says:

      Skimmed the article and garnered enough to see that the point the FBI agent was making about “sovereign citizens” is a valid one. These “sovereign citizen” types are loony tunes — they are very aggressive and believe that they are, in essence, vigilantes. Many of them have attacked cops. I wouldn’t want one next door to me.

      Of more importance is whether anyone else watched C-Span’s broadcast yesterday of an interview with Hank Paulson, W’s Treasury Secretary and the person who brought in the rather dictatorial financial regulations in the wake of the 2008 financial meltdown that began with Lehman Brothers going belly up over a weekend. It was little else beyond a public love-fest between him and Communist Chinese interests. He went on about how Communist Chinese investment in the U.S. is good and is good for American workers.

      OK, Hank. Whatever you say.

      As we speak, Burma is kicking out the Communist Chinese and cozying up to us as quickly as possible because they’ve had enough of Communist Chinese abusiveness, corruption, and stripping their country of everything of value. Sure, the Communist Chinese came in and built hotels, roads, infrastructure, etc., but they also forced farmers off their land at gunpoint, caused tremendous pollution, ran roughshod over village after village, and basically took over as if they owned the place.

      Paulson went on and on about how the Communist Party in China is the only real institution that exists and everything — everything — comes from and is due to the Party at every level of society. Although he did not specifically praise this system, it was apparent that he strongly supports a centralized, totalitarian form of governing. I was surprised that he admitted that on his most recent trip to Communist China (one of over a hundred, he said), there were times when he could not see the sun because of the air pollution — the indescribable pollution in China is a very sensitive topic with Communist Chinese leaders and they don’t like to have their noses rubbed in it.

      This man scared me. His leanings are clearly not in the direction of American values of democracy, freedom, de-centralized government, and individual responsibility. One saving grace was that he obviously is getting quite old.

      And again, he was W’s Treasury Secretary. Bush Sr. was U.S. ambassador to China for a reasonably long run, as well.

      This kind of stuff just makes you wonder…..

      Read somewhere yesterday that a crowd boo’ed when Jeb Bush’s name was mentioned at some gathering/speech. Let’s hope and pray that we get a viable, winnable, third party, genuinely conservative, loyal American candidate running for President in 2016. Not only does Jeb Bush not have so much as a snowflake’s chance at a campfire of winning, but he would guarantee a win for the Democrats.

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    40. Old GUy says:

      I honestly don’t care about lists or thumbs down. Im my own person and ill pick my own battles. Im pretty shure when the baby boomer generation dies off the next generation of hormone laced food eating tele tubbies wont care what the government does. The USA experiement in freedom had a little over 200 years of existence. It began to go downhill and take freedoms beginning with the Whisky Rebellion and steadily eroded away over the time. The loss has accelerated the last few decades. You might not believe it but the UN NWO is now our government. the middle class producing worker is no longer wanted or needed. There isn’t any viable political or ballot box solution. The Republic is now a Mob Rule Democracy.You cant kill them all. you cant even inform & enlighten the sheeple. So what and where does that leave?

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    41. jimbo says:

      I have news for the FBI and anyone else interested the entire country is talking about oppressive and far too powerful Government and it needs to be knocked down to size! Firearms and Ammo are still legal the last time i checked so why don’t you do the world a favor and checkout the corrupt politicians and go after the radical islam that has infested this great nation!

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      • Pissed Off Granny says:

        Please Jimbo, out of those corrupt politicians, please name the ones that are muslim.

        The radicals that have infested our country started their infestation for real in 1913 (feral reserve) and it sure was not radical islam.

        Also, tell me the radical islamists that belong to AIPAC; you know, (or maybe you do not) the organization that buys those corrupt politicians and tells our corrupt politicians how and what to vote for.

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    42. Paleface says:

      This makes me want to open my own gun shop just so I can NOT post that sign.

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    43. to all the nay sayers, losers, government a$$ kissers..and general trolls and those that refuse to F-ing get a clue..(not going to name names but we know who you are)

      If freedom does die and our revolution a failure, you will mourn for everything we fought for because it will most certainly be taken away from YOU without a fight. meanwhile you and everything you own is declared Government property at the stroke of a pen on a piece of paper known as an executive order. THEN, you will understand why we are so irate with the government. you dont care about the tyranny until it effects you, but by that time it’ll be too late. so please, take your mindless assumptions, labels and stereotypes somewhere else, people like you have allowed this country to be destroyed, no different than a British loyalist back in the 1770′s.

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      • Well said VRF. It is coming to everyone’s front steps very soon. Has anyone looked up the future fines for opting out of the ACA? It doesn’t stay where it is currently. It is progressive.
        For those who say he violated the law? What will happen when the gov’t comes for your property because you can no longer pay the fines? The ACA is the law and legitimate according to the supreme court.

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        • JayJay says:

          AND I pray every democrat-sucking cretin that still supports this fraud and can’t pay the exorbinant fees will be the first to lose their homes and move in with mama…and then every democrat congressman that made this bill legal needs to hang from a tree.

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          • sixpack says:

            This battle is close to me heart. I recently lost everything I owned to the Social Security Admin. I was the registered owner of $400,000 historical residential property. The lawyer is gay, both judges are openly gay, and old friends. The state got a fiduciary involved who is also gay. There was no win for me.

            I’ve posted some of that info on here before, but never went into detail about the circumstances that rendered me homeless with nothing more than what I could carry.

            $40,000 worth of tools…gone.
            Clothes and personal affects…gone
            An entire household of antique furnishings…gone.
            5 generations of historical documents and memorabilia…gone.

            The sold the expensive stuff and threw the rest in a DUMPSTER…hundred year old family photos…gone.

            History…gone.

            Because the SSA takes everything you have to recoup their loses.

            So this fight is close to me.

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            • sixpack says:

              You see, they had to use the probate court to get my property, because it was paid for free and clear, and there was no taxes owing. I still have the ORIGINAL land deal contract, 4 generations ago.

              These land grabs are about more than just the BLM.

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              • John W. says:

                Why would they go to probate court? You are not dead. Or did the person that left it to you owe a huge SSA amount and there was a shady transfer of ownership to you? Have to do it five years or more before the debt or they will consider it fraudulent. Not fair but that is how they do it as many who are now on Medicaid under Obamacare are going to find out. Sorry to hear your horror story.

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            • Sixpack: Sorry to hear that. What really piss’ a person off is that they are using your own money to fight you. If you win they will continue to appeal and fight until you run out of money then they get what they want anyway.

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    44. BlackDog says:

      I guess I’m late to the party. Um…where’s this ‘flyer’ the counterterrorism weenie left behind? Mac prints great apocolyptic digital photos, runs mpeg and other videos — you couldn’t photocopy that flyer and present it along with your rant?

      Nearly every single ‘suspicious activity’ you mentioned came from a ‘flyer’ produced by Big Sis — Janet Napolitano, when she was the Director of Homeland Security. She caught a rash of shit over it then. BATFE used the same flyer on their website.

      Law Enforcement in general is going through a paradigm change. The capitulation of the War on Drugs caught many of these folks completely off guard, and now they are finding that their leadership and administration have moved on without them, and they must either re-define themselves in their own departments, or re-examine their convictions and loyalties in a mixed-up, mumbled-up, shook-up world.

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    45. KY Mom says:

      86 Million Full-Time Private-Sector Workers Sustain 148 Million Benefit Takers

      “Buried deep on the website of the U.S. Census Bureau is a number every American citizen, and especially those entrusted with public office, should know. It is 86,429,000.”

      CNS News dot com

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      • That is the number of Americans who in 2012 got up every morning and went to work — in the private sector — and did it week after week after week.

        These are the people who built America, and these are the people who can sustain it as a free country. The liberal media have not made them famous like the polar bear, but they are truly a threatened species. the welfare state is going to make sure of it, and grow to the point of implosion
        thats when it will get ugly, that is if it doesnt happen sooner by the poking of the bear

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      • Old GUy says:

        Too many parasite takers and too few making Producers is not sustainable.

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        • John W. says:

          They outsourced all the jobs or let imports destroy domestic industry. Not satisfied with that they have been importing millions of immigrants every year for forty years. Not content with that they have made welfare and every other program available to all immigrants legal and illegal. Many people have just given up on finding a job and taken early SS retirement. Medicare is being cut to pay for the expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare. American wages inflation adjusted have not risen since 1974.

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    46. CWinOR says:

      The FBI should be VERY, VERY concerned. We are a VERY well armed populous, and for tens of millions of us it is a personal goal to be even more so on as frequent a basis as possible. Personally, I’m using the money that the Gov. thinks I should pay them in tribute to buy more guns and ammo and other gear monthly. I won’t pay them to kill babies, and terrorize the planet- but I’ll be more than happy to use “their” money against them. Any time you’re ready little boys…CATI!

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    47. Ha!..I bet I can hear the guy from my local gun shop saying something along the lines of go pound sand.

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    48. PKLauLau says:

      Don’t know if someone one else posted this already….just read that the Feds are arresting militia at the Bundy ranch for domestic terrorism….

      PKLL

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    49. PKLauLau says:

      KY mom: Can you use your sleuthing skills on this link…I’ve read this, but I can’t find out (or maybe I just missed it) who is behind this or who these people are…

      worldparliament-gov.org/constitution/the-earth-constitution/

      PKLL

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    50. .In 2004, the senator made $700,000 off a land deal that was, to say the least, unorthodox. It started in 1998 when he bought a parcel of land with attorney Jay Brown, a close friend whose name has surfaced multiple times in organized-crime investigations and whom one retired FBI agent described as “always a person of interest.” Three years after the purchase, Reid transferred his portion of the property to Patrick Lane LLC, a holding company Brown controlled. But Reid kept putting the property on his financial disclosures, and when the company sold it in 2004, he profited from the deal — a deal on land that he didn’t technically own and that had nearly tripled in value in six years..”. National Review Online.

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      • John W. says:

        He was also involved in a land deal where the sticking point was guess what the desert tortoise. he got the BLM to remove that land from the designation and all was well.

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    51. Excerpts from the liberal play book..

      1. Always ask what your country can do for you never what you can do for your country.
      2. Use as much energy and natural resources as you please and leave your mess for other people to clean
      up then act like you’re a huge environmentalist.
      3. Learn to quick draw the race card.
      4. Carry on about the rights of convicted murderers but support under all circumstances the killing of unborn babies.
      5. Register to vote as many times as you can in as many states as you can..
      6. Always act stupid and helpless.
      7. Keep yourself convinced that the man is holding you back and repeating the old worn out cliches like the
      rich get richer while the poor get poorer and it takes money to make money.
      8. Get a government job or join the military for the benefits but whine constantly about the responsibilities.
      9. Always blame crime on society the police and firearms but never criminals
      10. Insist on tolerance towards all until someone has a different point of view than yours.
      11. Spend more time worrying about other peoples tax’s than your own.
      12. Get into other peoples business but go postal if people get into yours.
      13. Maybe cover yourself with tattoos and piercings making yourself unemployable then apply for disability.
      14. Get a handicap sticker for your car even though you can outrun the fastest policeman.
      15. Always back your side no matter how incompetent then justify it by telling yourself “he has your back”.
      16. Skin your knee then call an ambulance and an attorney.
      17. Apply for every type of government aid available.
      18 Have another illegitimate child to get a raise in your welfare handout.
      20. Always be on the lookout for an excuse to be offended.
      21. Make up some idiot cause then insist on taxpayer money to research it.
      22. Go to a restaurant and eat then complain about the food to get out of paying.
      23. Take credit for other peoples ideas that succeed and deny your own ideas that fail.
      24. Apply for jobs you know you’re not qualified for then cry discrimination when you don’t get hired.
      25, Always insist that you decide what fair is.
      26. Always blame America for everything wrong in the world especially if there’s a republican in the white house.
      27. Always answer a question with a question or an irrelevant distraction.
      28. Use food stamps to buy food and your own money for alcohol lottery tickets and fun stuff..
      29. Tell a lie as often as you can hoping it becomes the truth.
      30. Call anyone who disagrees with you a racist or a hater.

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    52. on blooming idiots quest..now he is getting the women on his gun control side

      careful ladies , he’s a snake in the grass, and doesnt care that you may need that gun for your own self protection

      remember its jackholes like this guy that let out re-offenders and prison mopes that like to prey on women, not to mention allow criminals and felons back out on the streets with you

      also remember women are of the weaker sex ( ha wouldnt know that if you met my wife)

      he will exploit you if you support him, and wont do a dam thing for you if ever raped

      What Bloomberg needs is for women to give Bloomberg AND his anti-gun programs a swift kick in the nuts so he learns firsthand what sexual assault feels like and why women need to pack concealed to keep anything from happening to them!!

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      • sixpack says:

        According to liberal media, you’re supposed to vomit on your attacker, or shit/piss yourself to deter him…

        I’d rather shit/piss/vomit on him AFTER I put a 9mm hole in his head…

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    53. Nopittypartyhere says:

      Well, I got a surprise in the mail yesterday, at first I was upset, but NOW after reading these posts maybe its my opportunity to do my civic duty to uphold the 2A. I’ll know in a few weeks. Pick me! Pick me! Hope you’re picking up what I’m putting down here, cuz I ain’t gonna say it in black and white key words to be filtered out by some troll skimming these posts. Don’t want to jeopardize my possible chances of being selected if this is THE case. I ask that if you get it, don’t write it! Molon Labe!

      One can only hope!

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    54. Joe the one man who has had enough of the scare propaganda says:

      And this is news why?? All of you paranoid people out there did not think of this?? They are watching everything you purchase!! I guess this site just likes to stir the pot when their site hits are down!!

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    55. Tito...The Angry American says:

      Talking about, OR Talking S**T About?

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    56. Tito...The Angry American says:

      & They call US Paranoid!!!?

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    57. BIG FLAW IN FBI INVESTIGATION

      The FBI should be investigating the 30 or so surrounding once BLM properties that somehow ended up in Senator Dirty Harry REID’s land banks. Including the 92 acre piece adjoining Cliven Bundy’s Ranch and his Virgin River Water Rights.

      The fact that Janet Reno and Clinton, hiding behind her pant-suit T.O. the Waco gassing and bombing from the ATF to the FBI and the result lead to what happened in Oklahoma City, pretty much makes it very questionable that they will be able to do a fair and balanced investigation here. (May not be the intent either)

      The Brave men and women, (you don’t see any children in the video or the standoff) that faced AR-15 Full Automatic BLM weapons, were told NOT to fire unless they were fired on first. My guess that first volley would have been 500 rounds or so. Everyone I spoke to afterwards said one of the main reason they were there was to stop another Waco and/or Oklahoma City._citizenactivist

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