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    Fake Employment Numbers – And 5 More Massive Economic Lies The Government Is Telling You

    Michael Snyder
    November 19th, 2013
    Economic Collapse Blog
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    liesAccording to a whistleblower that has recently come forward, Census employees have been faking and manipulating U.S. employment numbers for years.  In fact, it is being alleged that this manipulation was a significant reason for why the official unemployment rate dipped sharply just before the last presidential election.  What you are about to read is incredibly disturbing.  The numbers that the American people depend upon to make important decisions are being faked.  But should we be surprised by this?  After all, Barack Obama has been caught telling dozens of major lies over the past five years.  At this point it is incredible that there are any Americans that still trust anything that comes out of his mouth.  And of course it is not just Obama that has been lying to us.  Corruption and deception are rampant throughout the entire federal government, and this has been the case for years.  Now that some light is being shed on this, hopefully the American people will respond with overwhelming outrage and disgust.

    The whistleblower that I mentioned above has been speaking to John Crudele of the New York Post.  In his new article entitled “Census ‘faked’ 2012 election jobs report“, he says that the huge decline in the unemployment rate in September 2012 was “manipulated”…

    In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.

    The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.

    Two years earlier, the Census had actually caught an employee “fabricating data”, but according to this whistleblower the corruption at the Census Bureau goes much deeper than that

    And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.

    “He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.

    The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.

    Well, is it really such a big deal that some of the unemployment numbers were faked?

    After all, hasn’t the unemployment rate been consistently going down anyway?

    Unfortunately, as you will see below, that is simply not the case.  The following are five massive economic lies that the government has been telling  you…

    “The Unemployment Rate Has Been Steadily Going Down”

    According to the official government numbers, the U.S. unemployment rate has fallen all the way down to 7.3 percent.

    That sounds really good, and it would seem to imply that a higher percentage of the American people are now working.

    Sadly, that is not the truth at all.

    Posted below is one of my favorite charts.  The employment-population ratio measures the percentage of the working age population that actually has a job.  As you can see, this number fell dramatically during the last recession and since the end of 2009 it has remained remarkably flat.  In fact, it has stayed between 58 and 59 percent for 50 months in a row…

    Employment-Population Ratio November 2013

    At the moment, the employment-population ratio is just one-tenth of one percent above the lowest level that it has been throughout this entire crisis.

    So are we in an “employment recovery”?

    Absolutely not, and anyone that tries to tell you that is lying to you.

    So how is the government getting the unemployment rate to go down?

    Well, they are accomplishing this by pretending that millions upon millions of unemployed Americans have disappeared from the labor force.

    According to the government, the percentage of Americans that want to work is now supposedly at a 35 year low…

    Labor Force Participation Rate

    If the labor force participation rate was still exactly where it was at when Barack Obama was first elected in 2008, the official unemployment rate would be about 11 percent right now.  People would be running around going crazy and wondering when the “economic depression” would finally end.

    But when people hear “7.3 percent”, that doesn’t sound so bad.  It makes people feel better.

    Of course if you are currently unemployed and looking for a job that doesn’t exactly help you.  At this point there is intense competition even for minimum wage jobs in America.  For example, according toBusiness Insider you actually have a better statistical chance of getting into Harvard than you do of being hired at a new Wal-Mart that is opening up in the Washington D.C. area…

    The store is currently combing through more than 23,000 applications for 600 available positions,reports NBC Washington.

    That means that Wal-Mart will be able to hire one person for every 38 applications it receives — i.e., just 2.6% of applicants will walk out with a job.

    That’s more difficult than getting into Harvard. The Ivy League university accepts 6.1% of applicants.

    “Inflation Is Low”

    This is another lie that government officials love to tell.  In particular, the boys and girls over at the Federal Reserve love to try to convince all of us that inflation is super low because it gives them an excuse to recklessly print lots more money.

    But anyone that goes to the grocery store or pays bills on a regular basis knows that there is plenty of inflation in the economy.  And if we were being given honest numbers, they would show that.

    According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, if the U.S. inflation rate was still calculated the exact same way that it was back when Jimmy Carter was president, the official rate of inflation would be somewherebetween 8 and 10 percent today.

    But the Federal Reserve certainly doesn’t want everyone running around talking about “Jimmy Carter” and “stagflation” because then people would really start pressuring them to end their wild money printing schemes.

    And without a doubt, what the Fed is doing is absolutely insane.  The chart posted below shows that the M1 money supply has nearly doubled since the beginning of 2008…

    M1 Money Supply 2013

    “Quantitative Easing Is Economic Stimulus”

    How many times have you heard the mainstream media tell you something along these lines…

    “The Federal Reserve decided today that the economic stimulus must continue.”

    There is just one thing wrong with that statement.

    As I showed in a previous article, it is a total hoax.

    In fact, a former Federal Reserve official that helped manage the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing program during 2009 and 2010 ispublicly apologizing to the rest of the country for being involved in “the greatest backdoor Wall Street bailout of all time”…

    I can only say: I’m sorry, America. As a former Federal Reserve official, I was responsible for executing the centerpiece program of the Fed’s first plunge into the bond-buying experiment known as quantitative easing. The central bank continues to spin QE as a tool for helping Main Street. But I’ve come to recognize the program for what it really is: the greatest backdoor Wall Street bailout of all time.

    Yes, quantitative easing has most certainly helped Wall Street (at least temporarily).

    Meanwhile, median household income in the U.S. has fallen for five years in a row.

    Meanwhile, the federal government is now spending nearly a trillion dollars a year on welfare.

    Meanwhile, 1.2 million students that attend public schools in America are now homeless.  In fact, that number has risen by 72 percent since the start of the last recession.

    “Obamacare Is Going To Be Good For Middle Class Americans”

    There were three giant promises that were used to sell Obamacare to the American people…

    #1 We would all be able to keep our current health insurance plans.

    #2 Millions more Americans were going to be covered by health insurance.

    #3 Most Americans would be paying lower health insurance premiums.

    Well, it turns out that all of them were lies.

    At this point, approximately 4 million Americans have already had their health insurance plans canceled due to Obamacare, and according to Forbes that number could ultimately reach 93 million.

    And so far only about 100,000 Americans have actually signed up for Obamacare, so that means that the number of Americans with health insurance has dropped by about 3.9 million since the beginning of October.

    Good job Obama.

    Meanwhile, Americans all over the country are being hit with a massive case of sticker shock as they start to realize what Obamacare is going to do to their wallets.

    According to one study, health insurance premiums for men are going to go up by an average of 99 percent under Obamacare and health insurance premiums for women are going to go up by an average of 62 percent under Obamacare.

    And if you are a young man, you are going to get hit particularly hard.  At this point, it is being projected that health insurance premiums for healthy 30-year-old men will rise by an average of 260 percent.

    But you don’t have to be young to pay higher premiums.  As I mentionedthe other day, one couple down in Texas was recently hit with a 539 percent rate increase.

    “The U.S. National Debt Is Under Control”

    The mainstream media would have us believe that the budget deficit is now under control and the U.S. national debt is not a significant problem any longer.

    But that is not the truth.

    The truth is that we are on pace to accumulate more new debt under the 8 years of the Obama administration than we did under all of the other presidents in all of U.S. history combined.

    Every single hour of every single day, our politicians are stealing about $100,000,000 from future generations of Americans.  It is a crime so vast that it is hard to put into words, and it is literally destroying the economic future of this country.

    Over the last 13 and a half months, the U.S. national debt has increased by more than 1.12 trillion dollars.

    If you were alive when Jesus Christ was born and you had spent a million dollars every single day since then, you still would not have spent that much money by now.

    And most Americans don’t realize this, but the U.S. government must borrow far more than a trillion dollars each year.  Trillions more in existing debt must be “rolled over” just to keep the game going.

    For example, the U.S. government rolled over more than 7.5 trillion dollars of existing debt in fiscal 2013.

    So what is going to happen someday when the rest of the world pulls out and stops lending us trillions of dollars at ridiculously low interest rates that are way below the real rate of inflation?

    Our financial system is far more vulnerable than we are being told.  We are in the terminal phase of the greatest debt bubble in the history of the planet, and when this bubble bursts it is going to be an absolutely spectacular disaster.

    Please don’t believe the mainstream media or the politicians when they promise you that everything is going to be okay.

    Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years. Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream. If you want to know what things in America are going to look like in a few years read his new book The Beginning of the End.

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    1. RICH99 says:

      Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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      • Paranoid says:

        In fact it’s only one: “Relax, we will only put it in a little way.” Or is it: “I’m from the Government and I’m here to help you.” Would you believe: “If you cannot trust your government who can you trust?” How about: “This won’t hurt much?”
        I wish I could get an honest report of how many are surpried at this.

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        • Ordinary Average Guy says:

          More ear ointment for the willing sheeple. Lined with free stuff and no work. For those that will see, its a shell game with smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that the ship is going down. You can bet the DC rats will jump ship right before it sinks…with boatloads of whatever they think will be valuable in their new life as world travelers.

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          • DaisyK says:

            Before the last election I had been working part-time for the census bureau for several years. Right before the election, when I said that the books were being cooked, Vicki McIntire, the Assistant Regional Director sent me a letter saying I was being disciplined for speaking out against my employer. I was being given 3 days off without pay. Since I was a part-time worker working at my convenience, that made no sense. I still had the same amount of work to get finished; there was no other census employee in a 200 mile radius that had been trained in the surveys I was doing.
            That’s when I decided to retire.

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            • Not so Much says:

              Did you save the letter? I’m sure that would interest some in media.

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            • Citizen of Interest says:

              RICH99 expressed a reasonable opinion.

              The banksters’ lies have gone on for centuries and their employment data lies have gone on for decades, so why not for more years?

              Who knows the future?

              “But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone.” Matthew 24:36

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              • crazy2medic says:

                The reason this cannot go on for years is the very simple fact that the Obama administration has generated more debt than all the previous presidents combined! Our unemployment rate is horrible and won’t improve until Obamacare is dead and gone and Obama is out of office, without the tax revenue coming in from the working class the government has to print more money, the more money they print the less it’s worth that’s inflation, the inflation causes high gas prices that makes everyday products cost more to ship, companies aren’t hiring because of the uncertain future, we have entered a death spiral that can’t be fixed without serious changes that congress will not do, it is now just a matter of time before the final straw or the necessary trigger takes place, we have given foreign governments the kill switch to our economic survival, f the economy doesn’t collapse in the next two years it’ll be a miracle

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                • NONYMOUS5 says:

                  Warren Commission said “Bankruptcy 1995″… but gobblement is big beast. Can’t be killed easily even when most of its body is rotted. So, we don’t know when. We
                  only know it will rot more and make life worse for all. “Corruption and deception are rampant throughout the entire federal government” And getting worse and cancer spread out to big investment banks and other MNC’s.

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                • Reynaldo says:

                  Bush doubled the national debt. Obama then doubled the national debt. If we last that long, the next a-hole will double it again. Won’t matter left or right, staying in power is about appeasing their masters, and that means transferring largesse from our pockets to the corporate/banking oligarchy via govt mandate in excahnge for contributions and support. All the dots are right there even for the most braindead sheeple to see, this ship is going down. This is why I buy PMs. I don’t care if I buy Gold and Silver and then the prices tank, if I’m holding that then I still have a lot more buying power than the people holding worthless paper and worthless retirement accounts.

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        • Miss DeeDee says:

          If you will check the facts you should realize that Barack Obama has had an open and honest administration when it comes to informing the public. He was the one that told us that there was indeed a secret military instalation known as AREA 51.
          – OOOPS – I may have just accidently told the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans and Iran about this top secret info.
          No wait. My mistake — Woman’s Home Journal and Popular Science Magazine may have mentioned the information sometime around 1965.
          I think if the U.S.A. wants to know the facts about everything then we should appoint KY Mom as Sec. of Information and Honesty
          – Thank You KY Mom for all your hard work and research.
          Miss Dee Dee

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          • GrandpaSpeaks says:

            I’ll second that, her integrity is apparent. With all due respect to those of the female persuasion, a little known quote I personally witnessed. “Integrity is like virginity, you either have it, or you don’t. It doesn’t come and go. You can’t say your not going to have interity today, but I will tomorrow. It doesn’t work like that”. Roger Boisjoly, Engineer for Morton Thiokol who did everything he could to stop the launch of shuttle Challenger. He said the seals are cold soaked and won’t make their seal. The brass told him to put on his “can do” hat. May that crew rest in peace. Integrity and ethics have been usurped by greed and corruption because the drive to succeed trumps everything. Greed and corruption, it is endemic in us. It may very well be our undoing, yet again.

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          • KY Mom says:

            Miss Dee Dee and Grandpa Speaks,

            Thank you!

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        • “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
          – William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)

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        • Drew says:

          Or how about this one ~ I promise to pull out…this is the one I believe fit this situation best, cause “we” are already screwed but they have not yet hit “their” orgasm yet! but never fear it will happen. And be ready, cause they for sure will NOT pull out when they do!

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          • Be informed says:

            The economy is what is referred to as BURNT TOAST. Eventually the pins will fall. BO always has the option that so many other rulers have resorted to, WAR. Like what happened last month during a new moon window, Israel launched another air raid on Syria and royally pissed off Russia. The next new moon window is one week away from November 27 to December 7. With the utter failure of BO care and the economy and BO approval ratings in the low 40′s, sure seems like the wag the dog war option is in the mix. I am looking at that Hydrogen bomb to the right in the advertisements from Survival Pulse and I am thinking that this looks like a very possible future.

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            • Npgh says:

              I believe this is a must read if anyone wants a glimpse into our future as a country. Yes, our government will keep funding the MIL but eventually we, as individuals as private citizens, cannot pay. Rome failed because of oppressive taxation and confiscation when the citizens could not be taxed one more denarius. Please read: it is a mirror of what is happening in the U.S. today. Courtesy of the Cato Institute: http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/serials/files/cato-journal/1994/11/cj14n2-7.pdf

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            • maddog says:

              BI, I think the time is close and the communist on CBS this morning confirmed your prediction. It was said the Demoncats are looking for any distraction from Oshitbag care. Even some of the really stupid sheeple can see it is a ploy for single payer now. They will need a doozy to change the subject. I was a little surprised by the warning however it does make it more concerning. I believe it is a direct warning for the ones in the know to prepare. That would be their inside people.

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              • Reynaldo says:

                The sheeple might see it as a ploy, but being sheeple, when the time comes they will go right along with single payer. They’ll even beg for it after the con men in Congress finish ginning up how great it will be compaored the manufactured cluster we have going now.

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      • OutWest says:

        The federal government has no equal
        when it comes to cooking the books,
        and it’s legal too—-for them……

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        • durango kidd says:

          Its hard too believe that any president could be worse than GWB, but O’Bummer is living proof. Together they have encouraged the theft of the American means of production and destroyed the American economy; aided and abetted by the Congress of the United States. Treason in high places.

          Free Trade has real costs.

          By all that is Holy, DC should be burning with Congress in session. Kill the FED. Death to the New World Order. :-)

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          • California Resident says:

            All I suggest is that you read the comments. The first link came yesterday BEFORE this news came out into the public eye.

            http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?fvcn-post=obamas-inspiration-is-nearing-expiration-edward-luce&cpage=1#comment-1535337

            http://www.barnhardt.biz/2013/11/19/toldya-toldya-confirmed-today-unemployment-numbers-all-faked-and-obamacare-website-code-never-even-written/

            It seems plausible that Obama won’t finish out his second term. He’s in WAY over his head.

            He’s going to be martyred – you watch.

            You can’t have this much shit go wrong without it being done deliberately as a means to an end.

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            • Heirloominati says:

              Cali, thanks for the Barnhardt site. Like her style and will keep an eye on her. Others have speculated on the dangers the POS may be in from his handlers… One can only imagine the stuff still tucked in the closet, as many truths (Remember Bengazi!) born out thus far have already exceeded my vivid imagination. Sure is looking more like a patsy with each passing day.

              Got outta California… It’s been over a decade ago already. Hope you are somewhere ‘safer’ than the southland.

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          • Jonny V says:

            DK, the massive theft started with Reagan. His “economic plan” was simply to run the credit card to the moon. Since then, every president has followed the same model. When Ronnie took office, the USA was the largest creditor in the world, everyone owed us money. When he left office, we were the largest debtor, and we owed everybody.

            Every succeeding president has done their best to try and re-create the supposed “prosperity” of the Reagan years, but the shine has worn off. Now we sit, like a boozed up drunk at a blackjack table futilely throwing good money after bad in a ridiculous attempt to keep air in the debt balloon.

            The only difference between any of the presidents is that now, the debt is exploding upwards thanks to the laws of “compounding interest”. If you charted it, it would be what’s referred to as a “J-curve” graph, and the only thing J-curve growth items have in common is the extinction that follows every single instance of “J-curve” growth.

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            • Ugly says:

              Johhny V.

              Your analogy is like me blaming my great grandfather for my beer drinking today. Cause he started it, that is why I am doing it.

              Start taking blame for your own actions.

              The current POTUS has done some serious stuff without any of Reagan’s hand-work. It is his….

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              • Peterson says:

                All he did was point out where he thought the problem started.

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                • Ugly says:

                  Peterson.

                  The problem really didn’t start there as libs love to say. You must remember whom Reagan replaced.

                  Around 1980, interest rates were 20% and unemployment about 13%. This person helped the American economy by dumping grain in the ocean and boycotting the 1980 Olympics in Russia. He did this because Russia invaded Aphganistan.

                  Be he didn’t mind being a buddy to a future Nobel Peace-Maker called Arafat.

                  Then in 1981, we elected a Real Leader. That person with a Congress and House controlled by Democrats, turned this country around. Yes the debt increased, but it was increasing before. The debt in those days was manageable because our economy was much stronger than the debt.

                  But that has changed.

                  Looking at what Carter did is no solution for today. We live in Today, thus our problems must be solved in the Today moment….

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              • Christian Man says:

                Probably truer words were never spoken @Ugly….

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            • Ugly says:

              Jonny V.

              Because you are as brilliant as a rock-chuck, I am curious.

              What did Reagan do that caused the current POTUS decisions today?

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              • Jonny V says:

                What I wrote is pretty clear to anyone with even a moderate level of education. Reading comprehension skills are invaluable, for your benefit however, I’ll try and simplify even further…..

                DK was commenting about how the last two presidents have been awful. Well, the thing that both of them have been especially awful at is running up huge amounts of debt. No matter about Benghazi or Katrina or any other scandals, the number one thing both of these two idiots (Bush and Obama) have done to fuck over the nation is to run up higher and higher debts.

                The debt run up by every president since Reagan has been exponentially higher than his predecessor….

                What I did was to point out that the debt explosion started with Reagan. That is the point in our history where the United States started spending borrowed money and there was never any plan to pay any of it back. All the deficit spending from 1980 forward is being pushed onto the future generations of our country.

                Or here, let’s try it this way….Your great grandpa was guzzling beer, and got your grandpa started in beer guzzling as a small child. One day, your dad was born, and by the time your dad turned 5 or 6 years old, he was pounding beer too. Kept up boozing all his life. Sure enough, sooner or later, you were born, and by the time you were out of diapers, you were shot-gunning beers too. That’s what all our presidents have been doing with the deficits and debt. We’ve been on Reagan’s economic plan ever since 1980, without variation.

                Just like a family of hopeless alcoholics, we keep hoping things are going to change, and they never do.

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                • The Old Coach says:

                  It started with Tip O’Neill, who just happened to be a contemporary of Reagan. Blaming Reagan for the debt explosion is like blaming Mother Teresa for Hitler. Get a life. I was there, dammit! The President cannot add money to the budget. Only Congress can do that.

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                • Ugly says:

                  Jonny V.

                  Thanks for speaking in beer, I kind of understand what you may say.

                  My question. When you say the debt started with Reagan, why did you skip Carter?

                  When Reagan took office, the debt was nearly $900 billion with 20% interest rates. After 8 years, it was around $1.5T.

                  Did Carter leave Reagan a debt, or not?

                  Now please speak in beer so I can understand….

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                • Jonny V says:

                  Carter could only down 90 beers, fucking wimp. Reagan was the man (at the time), and he put away 150 beers. Then came George the 1st, and he drank more than Reagan, but got the boot after only 4 years. Slick Willy popped up next and doubled the previous beer guzzling record. George the 2nd avenged his dad and drank double what Slick Willy could manage. Now, Obummer shows up and hammers down twice what George the 2nd could do….

                  Get the picture? Every one of these asswipes spends twice what the asswipe before him spent. The next one will double up Obummer’s record……

                  Didn’t leave Carter out on purpose. Sure the economy was a mess, but we didn’t have exponential debt growth before Reagan.

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                • 10% Off says:

                  But millions of jobs were created under Reagan….real jobs. Clinton pretty much rode the coat tail of what Reagan started.

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                • Gregory8 says:

                  It’s been the “Dumbing-Down” of Americans over the 50-60 years that has allowed each election to have such poor choices in candidates and it gets worse with each election. These so-called candidates are pre-chosen by powerful competing business interests and then “We the People” are ‘allowed’ to choose one of ‘their’ two candidates. And each election the selection gets worse, the last one was especially pitiful. The best this country can come up with is a repeat of BHO and Romney the RINO? TPTB who do the choosing behind the scenes don’t even try to hide their contempt for us anymore, we get handed two plates of steaming dog-shit and we’re told we must chose one of them-REALLY?! I’ve been and will continue to be a third party voter.

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            • @Jonny V…lol…Now you went and done it.

              You said something bad about Cowboy Ronnie.

              You cannot do that on this blog.

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              • RickInOregon says:

                Hell if he can’t say something bad if it’s the truth about President Reagan. I’m not a fan of him at all. After he put his tail between his legs and ran away when the Marine barracks were attacked and blown up I lost respect him. When he fixed social security and doubled my ss tax and gave congress the keys to the safe he proved he was just another tax and spend politician, when he gave amnesty to the illegals and then made me have to prove my citizenship to be able to work in the country that I was born in and served while reneging on the promise of punishment for the users of illegals, when he simplified the tax code and lowered the tax rate but took away the little guys tax write off of medical, school, work cloths, work tools, interest payment on all loans and we ended up paying more. He waved the flag real well and would leave you feeling good with his words, I guess that’s better than what we have now.

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              • hillbilly SC says:

                JRS,

                Yippee ki yay mother f#cker, That was Cowboy Ronnie, right???

                Oh Shit!!! with all this talk of beer I get lost. :(

                mmm beer… “Homer Simpson” ;)

                No No No, I remember… It was Roy, Roy Rogers. I remember now, he was in that movie in a big building. :)

                Y’all play nice, don’t make me come over there. :)

                hillbilly SC

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              • Ugly says:

                Jonny V.

                1980 was still Carter. Reagan took office in January 1981. So you really should start exponential debt in 1980 when the debt was well over $500B at 23% interest,

                JRS.

                The Cowboy did more positive stuff for this country than the Peanut….

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                • Jonny V says:

                  Reagan was my Commander in Chief when I was serving (honorably) in the USMC. Reagan had a gift of making people feel good and feel like he understood them. Reagan had many good qualities that you want in a POTUS, but fiscal responsibility was not one of them……

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                • Jim Bob says:

                  Hey Johnny V, do some research on history before you shoot off your yap. Check spending by the LBJ administration in the 60′s if you REALLY want to see where the debt started to get out of control. As an aside, he was also the biggest PUSSY commander in chief America has ever suffered, he was scared shitless of the Russians.

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                • Jonny V says:

                  Hey Jim Bob, the chart I put up starts in 1940, so I’m pretty sure that includes the Johnson administration. Debt didn’t start to spiral out of control until about 1982. Sorry, but it’s just a fact.

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                • Jim Bob says:

                  Johnny V, numerically you’re correct. But your chart fails to take into account is the dollars of the 60′s had over double the purchasing power they have today. A much bigger percentage of national treasure has also been wasted by LBJ’s great society programs which have been a millstone around the neck of a formerly great nation reduced to feeding and propagating millions of useless eaters whose sole function is to vote democrat forever.

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                • Jonny V says:

                  I agree on the “great society” stuff Jim Bob, but the chart is inflation corrected dollars, thus taking into account the increased purchasing power of the 1960′s (and before).

                  What the chart also represents is compounding interest on that debt. As a nation, we are battling not only out of control spending, but out of control interest on that spending. What we have here is a gigantic version of a credit card where the minimum payments (remember the US Govt only pays on the interest, not any principal), are now becoming out of reach.

                  When you run up a card and the minimum payment suddenly becomes $1000 per month or more, that’s bad news for most regular folks. The Govt has the same problem, only on a far wider scale.

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                • Ugly says:

                  Jonny V.

                  Those charts don’t mean shit. Anytime you allow ‘corrections’ and other factors, you allow some tenured prick to interpret data for you.

                  Trust me, a debt at $500B at 23% interest is growing exponential, and no I don’t need a tenured prick to interpret that for me. I can do the math myself.

                  Reagan was a leader, LBJ and Carter were not (my opinion).

                  Now, lets live in today. Today’s POTUS has made his own decisions and he does need to go back and blame for his 900+ executive orders and everything else.

                  signed.

                  Ugly, Ph.D.

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          • Ugly says:

            DK.

            I have said this before.

            In 2008, someone said on another blog, not me, we can dislike Bush for all the good reasons. And there are many reasons. But when this new POTUS is done with us, we will look at Bush as an extreme conservative and his days the good ole days.

            I laughed then.

            Not now.

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          • Christian Man says:

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            • Ugly says:

              Christian Man.

              Then give all your stuff to the poor and be happy.

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                • Ugly says:

                  Christian Man.

                  Not gullible and not illiterate, just finally realizing the Day is here.

                  I don’t think you will enjoy another 15 years fishing, but I hope you do.

                  Your preps are not a waste.

                  Keep prepping and tell a willing ear.

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                • braveheart says:

                  Christian Man, that’s a curious title you’re posting under when you call a member of this community ‘gullible and illiterate’. We do have trolls who are gullible and illiterate that come here on at least a semi-regular basis, BUT NOT THE REGULAR MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY. You don’t sound ‘christian’ to me.

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            • mike says:

              @Christian Man
              A lot of people feel the same as you. I would have thought the collapse would have happened by now. I do know it is coming. If you think it is not then just answer a couple questions.
              1)How can we pay back 17 trillion dollars?
              2)How can we recover from half of the U.S. people being on some form of government assistance?
              3)How will this socialist government that has been set up succeed when no other in history has?
              4)What happens to the dollar if we continue to print to infinity?
              5)What happens if the government says it cannot pay social security or medicare anymore? ( 70 trillion in promised payments by the way )
              6)What happens if the government says it can no longer pay for any form of welfare or government assistance?

              Since you are a Christian man there are a few scriptures that apply.’
              Habakkuk 2 – 6,7.
              Woe to him who increases what is not his-how long? And to him who loads himself with many pledges? Will not your creditors rise up suddenly?
              Revelation 6 – 5’6
              When he had opened the third seal, I heard a third beast say, come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse, and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beast say, a measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny, and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

              I am not trying to be argumentative. I just know that a collapse is coming. I honestly wish you well and hope you have not used up your preps when it does.
              One other thing. I don’t see that prepping cost you anything. Lets say the collapse does not happen in my life time. I will just use my preps and resupply. Most of what we stock can be used and you would have had to have bought it anyway.
              Have a great evening and hope all is well in your world.

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          • Calgacus says:

            I need to stop reading here before I go off to work. I get to damn pissed off.
            Drudge has a link on the latest poll numbers. The bastard in the White House is sinking fast.
            Obama and Bush are near being tied. Obama approval is 37% and Bush was 35%. Just waitll Dec when people dont have holiday cash to spend. That halfwit halfbreed will see 35% or lower. He should be at 0% to match his love of country.

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          • Reynaldo says:

            This is the side effect of voting for the lesser of two evils – the next president will be worse than what we have now. And they will continue to get worse and worse. Bush was a felon guilty of stock fraud and bankrupted every company he ever led. Obama is a completely fake human being with no verifiable past. The next guy will probably be an admitted rapist. The people will vote for him because his opponent will seem even worse.

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        • Shooter says:

          SSDD

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        • Shootit says:

          OW, What books? If you don’t keep books there is nothing to cook you. Just ask Hillary. Never mind. She would not be able to remember the question.

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      • Ted Kennedy says:

        Lies and damn lies will go on at this rate for many years

        Fixed it for you RICH99.

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      • The Lone Ranger says:

        No, it won’t, Rich 99,

        because THE WARNING ARRIVES IN DECEMBER OF 2013!

        I.
        Everyone, respectfully:

        IF you are NOT Catholic, consider repenting, NOW, as best you know how, of all your sins.

        If you ARE Catholic, go to Confession.

        II.

        AFTER The Warning comes World War III, as prophesied in the Book of Revelation.

        III.

        AFTER WWIII comes the declaration of the Antichrist– he will be the person who brokers/arranges the peace and mistakenly be perceived as Christ. Do NOT fall for that!

        Jesus Christ WILL return but NOT be on the planet, despite the “wonders” the Antichrist will perform.

        If you want to learn more, all you need to do is go to http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com or http://www.johnleary.com

        My friends, the End Time is NOW:

        - HAARP is being used with increasing frequency ala the Phillipines and our own Midwest;
        - Our government and its economy are collapsing supported only by the weak balsa wood of its lies;
        - Pre-Chipped Russian and Chinese soldiers in the hundreds of thousands lie in wait in our own land;
        - You want to fight them when it goes down?? Just remember they are chipped: they will be fighting beyond capacity and not be able to Not fight because the chip will disable their free will and they will be coming non-stop like Terminators.

        Because all power will be out, all currencies collapsed, all stores closed, food will be scarce and those with off-grid power defending themselves against those desperate for anything to sustain ourselves– all so everyone planet-wide will be take the Mark of the Beast: the RFID chip that will disable your OWN free wills!

        This is not some Hollywood script I’m testing out here– it’s the result of ten months of intense research.

        THE WARNING arrives in December after which Satan through the Antichrist and all chipped minions and lackeys (need I name them?) try to destroy us.

        So Listen VERY carefully to the instructions Jesus gives you.

        For those of us who reside only in the 50 States, we WILL have the option– 2-6 weeks after His prompt– to call upon Him to send us our Guardian Angels and leave for an Angel-protected Refuge.

        I know I often challenge your own worldview, and I know I often challenge your own faith view, but The Warning will be such an undescribable event that it will make everything make sense.

        But SATAN wants to get you to FIGHT me, all in order to DISTRACT you from making your own private confessions to the Lord.

        Don’t let Satan win. Satan HATES you and will prey on ANY of your weaknesses? Why? All to lure you to spend eternity with it in HELL which is FOREVER!

        Save yourselves and your loved ones: get right with God, listen carefully to Jesus during The Warning. I literally do not have the time to fight you all. I am busy 18 hours a day between work and preparing.

        God love you all.
        God bless you all.
        God protect you all.

        And thank you all.

        - The Lone Ranger

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      • STEVE'S WORLD says:

        Howdy folks.
        I’ve been a fan of this site for many years now.
        So I decided to put together some info. I found of interest off a portal I have.

        Mac. Can I get listed on your links page? Thanks man.

        I’m a big fan of Youtube and a person can learn alot. Here’s some videos I was watching last night.

        http://globalcodeguild.com/product_reviews/Survival/tabid/616/Default.aspx

        Note…the site is my own little dust pan of things…the main .com.
        But I decided to summarize over time my research findings these last few years.
        I just started this tonight. From humble beginnings.

        Personally I think the dollar is fubar. That’s tomorrow nights efforts.

        Regard all.

        STEVE’S WORLD

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        • Surviver says:

          Nice little site.. keep at it man. I liked the idea about the indoor clay pot candle heater to keep the heat in one spot where you want it. Great for sheltering in place.

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        • Calgacus says:

          Buy an ad to support this site then. Stop pimping all of your shit in the comments. Were onto you now.

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          • Steve's WORLD says:

            I read an ocean of books on the economy and the storm coming. I’ll put some info. out on that soon.

            Be positive… One guy sent me an email thanking me for the video gold I found on Youtube for him.

            Steve

            ps. I’ll be building out a link to Mac’s site.
            That’s how things work.

            Together we all win.

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          • Real American says:

            Way to encourage the prepper community. I hope you don’t talk to your kids like that.

            Steve’s World… Thanks for the links and videos. I never heard of the flower pot heater. Very cool! Keep up the good work.

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      • BigB says:

        @Rich99,

        I don’t know why you got so many thumbs down on “Life will go on”.

        We are no longer in control of our country. Our vote, our polls and or what we believe in the direction of our country no longer and probably have not for some time been of any consequence in how our country progress’s.

        It is my belief that we are now living in a corporate society. For the first time in history the U.S. has found a new form of government. We no longer have to worry about Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Capitalism and or a Dictatorship type of government being thrust upon us.

        We the people are now nothing more than a resource for this corporate society. Your social security number is an identity for the manifest of the U.S. America. We now have no more value than that of a cow, a hog, or a field of wheat. No real rights for that matter than those mentioned assets.

        I’ll let others smarter than me discuss how we earn our freedom. I just know that we now all belong to the company store.

        BigB

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      • Arby says:

        In our small town a Subway recently opened and according to our local news paper more than 350 people applied for about 8 part time jobs.

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      • John Q. Public says:

        @ Mac

        The reposts reflect the silly “thumbs down” policy that allows posts with as few as a dozen total votes to be hidden. My most unpopular posts have been footnoted with links that can be verified (usually verifiable online without skeptics even leaving their easy chair, though sometimes people have to take the radical step of actually pulling a book from a library shelf).

        When you allow true and verifiable evidence to be spiked, plain and simply you no longer serve truth. Several here have noticed the glaring absence of evidence offered to rebut my posts. In the year or so that I have been posting here, can you remember even one instance in which someone rebutted me with evidence, not gratuitous opinion, not name-calling?

        I also mention again that, using articles in the Israeli press, I have documented that the Israeli government PAYS posters and thumbs downers to conceal and oppose inconvenient truths about Israel, inconvenient truths exactly like those I have posted here.

        If you really want to keep the flow of information going and to let adults decide for themselves what facts will inform the opinions they hold, I suggest that unpopular posts remain whatever the vote tally. If thumbs downers really have a meaningful opinion, let them respond with evidence—not cowardly and craven censorship. When has less truth been a good policy?

        On the matter of “off topic” digressions, have you considered that, as the months go by, your selected articles are becoming very repetitious?

        While I believe that collapse is coming, a steady flow of breathless “Collapse now”… “er, now”…. I mean, “really right now” articles only discredits the prepper movement. Sooner or later, enough monkeys at the keyboard will type a novel and sooner or later, one of Celente’s weekly “really for sure now” articles will be right. In the mean time, I respectfully (yes, I respect most of what you publish) suggest that you consider that just maybe the discussion following your articles goes “off topic” so easily because—dare I say it?—the repetition is becoming boring and mirrors too closely what others sites have already reported (As one recent example, gun blogs were posting the ‘Montana publishes gun owners map’ 3 months ago).

        You own this news aggregate, so it is in your power to decide whether to continue censoring me for posting verifiable truths. That said, I sure hope you are on the side of truth.

        If you ever have evidence that my facts are off base, confront me with the evidence—as you would a friend. If you can eliminate the censorship, I can certainly eliminate re-posts.

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        • John Q. Public says:

          Mac,

          Is it asking too much to expect a responsive reply?

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        • John Q. Public….I think that the pressure is mounting to suppress the truth at all costs. The trolls are bitching and moaning about “hate speech”, although I think that any time verifiable truth-tellers appear, the trolls use their trump card of “I’m going to go tell someone”!
          I wish that you would repost important info, simply because the truth can’t be repeated enough.
          Just my .02….

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    2. Mclovin says:

      The first sign I noticed about the economy being really bad was when my favorite strip club was at full dancer capacity even with mandatory drug testing.

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      • Paranoid says:

        Of the dancers or the patrons? But exactly what does good T&A have to do with drugs? Who cares?

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        • Mclovin says:

          Paranoid I take it you don’t get stripper humor.. it’s ok bro, next time I’ll try to come up with a joke about Obama to make sure everyone here gets it.

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          • Paranoid says:

            Sorry; some of my best friends should have been strippers, or is that; some of the best strippers should have been my friends?

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            Some of us got it, got a chuckle, is sad girls gotta drop to that but they at least are taking the bull by the hornys and making their own way!
            Still more respectable than just sitting back waiting for a check to come in, i know some will ghasp at that but ive known and seen all sorts of stuff and learned about 28 years ago not to be critical or judgemental of folks who do what they gotta do, unless of course they are a lazy leach!

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            • Mclovin says:

              I’ve dated 2 strippers in my life. one was a raging alcoholic that went horizontal within 10 minutes of meeting me, the other was the exception to the rule that rarely drank and was stripping her way through dental hygienist school and was so sweet she put me to shame.

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            • nopittypartyhere says:

              An old LPN I worked with 20 years ago used to call lady parts “possible” One night I asked her why she told her little old ladies it was time to wash ‘possible”. she told me that her momma told her that as long as you have a vagina, ANYTHING is possible!

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            • MXLord327 says:

              More respectable than being a politician….

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      • sixpack says:

        Seems to me one could get drunker for less money, by spending it on booze instead of stuffing it in g-strings.

        In this economy, drunker is better—at least you’ll never see the hammer fall.

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    3. Sierra Dave says:

      IMHO, enough cause for a revolution.

      IMHO 2, enough patriots exist to do the job.

      The problem is organizing without getting arrested.

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    4. BadAmerican says:

      The lies won’t stop until the streets turn red.

      …….a reckoning………BA.

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    5. braveheart says:

      The article is indeed disturbing but not surprising. the only way to stop all of this BS is bring on the ‘reset’. start over from scratch. braveheart

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      • Peterson says:

        Easier said then done there dude.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          So true,
          Folks forget even these lying POS basturds got voted into office then legally appointed the department heads etc,,
          So while those of us who see whats going on might want change and maybe even entertain a drastic move such as we have mentioned, we will be right back here or worse untill enough people get sick of the BS. I read it earlier on another site that it is hugely important to utilize the constitutional avenues we have until there is no other avenue of redress unless we want to lose the legitimacy of our own movement and become no better than those we are rallying against.
          It is trying, but made real good sense to my mind and rationale, many will disagree, and maybe at some point our only avenue will be by the power and threat of violence but that would have to follow a very agregious act on the part of these bureaucrats and their minions. I honestly feel organizing en masse will prove to be far more effective, but people meed to cut loose all of these damn representatives who have been hogging the floor getting ritch off of us all. They ALL need to go and their appointees all need to go as well, goverent needs to be made accountable to We The People FIRST period!

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          • Peterson says:

            Heck ya Kula, that is true.

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          • mike says:

            @Kulafarmer

            I am sorry to be doom and gloom. The system cannot be fixed at this point no matter who we elect. I am not saying we should not vote. We absolutely should try. I am just saying that this will end with a lot of pain no matter what. If politicians did make the correct decisions and do what needed to be done the system would still go down. There would be riots or possible civil war because all those dependent people would be starving. Half the country already is dependent on some form of government program. They feel they are entitled to it. If we were going to fix it politically it should have been done years ago. Just so sad.

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            • Kulafarmer says:

              I agree 110%+
              We could vote in enough libertarians in the next election to completely change the flavor and direction of all legislation, but the damage has been done, and it was started years ago,
              I am quite sure we are too late to stop the consequences of failed policy, failed, legislation, and a failure of accountability. But,, but we can definitely change the future, it will take action, it may take violence because there are always going to be bitter clingers, (hanging chads) and washington is heavily populated with the vermin known as attorneys. You can bet they will not give up quietly even when faced with overwhelming opposition and defiance.

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          • I agree with your sentiment Kulafarmer. Yet, the conundrum we’re in is that we have crossed the lexicon of very egregious acts a long time ago. We’ve had our rights stripped from us piece by piece. We get treated like criminals for knowing our rights and arrested for exercising them. We are threatened for seeing the truth and assaulted and sometimes murdered for telling the truth. Our sons and daughters are stolen from us and sent to fight and die in foreign wars, commit atrocities that benefit the criminal dictate and told it’s for our freedumb. We have been robbed through inflation and extorted through criminal taxation. No, we are WAY past egregious.

            The problem is gaining the public momentum against this thuggery. Being right is the first step. The second step is winning over the public. This is the only conundrum I see. They’re too stupid to understand what is right in front of them and too blinded by the media propaganda to ever see it. It is a politically induced, media driven coma.

            And here we are. In the Constitutionally right position with all the righteous indignation to prove it. Yet, any organized attempt to remove these rotting, filthy, thieving, lying, whoring, manipulating, narcissistic, repugnant lot of scum from power, would be labeled as “domestic terrorism” and the public would believe the lies. They would sit in living rooms, bars and other public venues around the country and cheer on their oppressors as those that would aid in setting them free be destroyed.

            I’m sorry, but the Constitutional efforts have been exhausted. All redress has been ignored. At this point the best we can hope for is a total collapse. I think the only thing that will wake these comatose zombies from their slumber is a complete horror on their doorsteps. Even then, I’m sure many will report to their local FEMA terminal for transport to camp Zebra.

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            • Kulafarmer says:

              Good post, you know these things, i know them, and millions of others as well,
              catalyst,,,,
              What will be the straw that breaks the camels back? And who will pull us all together?
              Its frustrating as hell, and then theres something else that gets exposed, and more and more,,,

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              • Night breaker says:

                Kula,
                the straw that breaks the camels back will be internal resettlement operations by the regime when it needs the manpower of us to support the ruling elite only when people are being forced into boxcars to go to labor camps for the benefit of the ruling class is when they realize that everything they have know has been an utter and blatant lie.
                For them it will be too late .

                DO NOT BE ONE OF THE CLUELESS

                RESIST

                III%

                Semper Fi 8541

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          • Reynaldo says:

            Try organizing anything against anything. You’ll be lucky if 10 people show up. We just had the banks steal $16 trillion and counting. No one really cares as long as they still have their TVs, PCs, smartphones, and video games. The most disgruntled people are easily pacified with bread and circuses.

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        • braveheart says:

          Peterson, I do agree when civil war breaks out it will be horrific. I believe we’ll pay a tremendous, astronomical price to take our country back. the system we have now is all shot to hell. It’s way too far gone to try to save it. the system has to be destroyed and we have to start over from scratch. I don’t see any other way to save this country now. But I believe the country is worth saving and I’m willing to do my part to see it happen. I’m not about to do like some of the rich have done and go to some other country. this country is the land of my birth; my home. My home is worth saving and since it takes a war to save it, then so be it. We’re all in for a nightmare like none of us have ever experienced before. braveheart

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      • Paranoid says:

        Truthfully Brave, I am neither disturbed or suprised. DC has become a septic garbage pool. No one; Potus, Congress, or The Supreme Court seem to care about the Constitution or basic honesty. It’s not going to stop, the public has been bought. The honest taxpayer is in the minority. As the lady said: “It’s to late to fix, and to soon to start shooting.” Keep your head down and wait, it’s all we can do at the moment.

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    6. Ugly says:

      People. Just get ready. We know something bad is coming and we are in the economic meltdown. When will the collapse occur is anyone’s guess. But it is coming. Be ready as best as can.

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    7. Tactical says:

      It doesn’t take some whistleblower to become a sudden hero to break such monumental news. Just watch the media in the US specially the monkeys on MSNBC. However life is good for the elites since the system is designed as such. Ohhh BTW…Stock Market is almost reaching 16K. Dems will continue their BS and once their side made their billions plus, they signal to the republicans to start their life cycle to make their billions plus…and the GAME GOES ON AN ON for another 4 or maybe 8 years… Fool me once shame on you…fool me forever shame on ???????

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    8. PO'd Patriot says:

      If he’s breathin’, he’s lyin’.

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    9. Mac,
      I am surprised you didn’t write about the fed contractors in Texas who pulled Americans over and had them give DNA through cheek swabs, breathalyzer and blood.

      BJ

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    10. sixpack says:

      We all know where the heart of the problem is—world banks and the families and corporations who run them. Iceland has the idea we all need to adopt…quickly.

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    11. JayJay says:

      Virginia State Senator Deeds in ICU, stabbed, and son dead??

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    12. AnAngryJew says:

      This article angers me. What a horrid government!

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    13. Lonewulf says:

      Wonder what would happen if a “whole bunch” of folks showed up at the Senate, House & White House and stated that they were there to “take their government back”.
      How many would it take to do this? Are there any guidelines in the constitution for this? Anyone?

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    14. Barn Cat says:

      If you check out John Williams’s work at shadowstats dot com you’ll find out that real inflation is about 10% and real unemployment is about 23%. If you adjust the fake GDP numbers by the real inflation number it’s about -6%. In other words, the economy is rapidly shrinking.

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    15. Agent Provocateur says:

      I hate to say this, and I do not advocate it but perhaps…Just perhaps; the answer to all the corruption in D.C. is in a Russian or Chinese sub somewhere off the Atlantic coast.

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      • Not so Much says:

        It’ll prolly be a Iranian ship-borne missile that EMPs us into the stone age. God help us all if that happens.

        DC will decide when and who gets their power back, starting with themselves of course, and it isn’t going to be the serfs.

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        • We wont/don’t need or want any outside help with our little domestic problem here…we can fix barrys little red wagon ourselves….outsiders best mind their own business…aint likely any good coming from outside anyhow!

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    16. aljamo says:

      The entire corporate government is nothing but theft, fakes and liars. In the 60′s citizens had some media coverage of the war in Vietnam. These later day wars are completely ignored by media. Free speech press by media is long dead. Free speech by citizens is under heavy assault. More free speech is the enemy of the corporation known as usa incorporated.

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    17. Cowdoc says:

      Subject: Christmas Story

      Am sure you remember the origin of this, but as the holiday season is upon us thought it might be good to refresh your memory.

      A Little Christmas Story

      When four of Santa’s elves got sick, the trainee elves did not produce
      toys as fast as the regular ones, and Santa began to feel the Pre-Christmas pressure.

      Then Mrs. Claus told Santa her Mother was coming to visit, which
      stressed Santa even more.

      When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that three of them were
      about to give birth and two others had jumped the fence and were out,
      Heaven knows where.

      Then when he began to load the sleigh, one of the floorboards cracked,
      the toy bag fell to the ground and all the toys were scattered.

      Frustrated, Santa went in the house for a cup of apple cider and a shot
      of rum. When he went to the cupboard, he discovered the elves had drunk
      all the cider and hidden the liquor.. In his frustration, he accidentally dropped the cider jug, and it broke into hundreds of little glass pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found the mice had eaten all the straw off the end of the broom.

      Just then the doorbell rang, and an irritated Santa marched to the door,
      yanked it open, and there stood a little angel with a great big
      tree.

      The angel said very cheerfully, ‘Merry Christmas, Santa. Isn’t this a
      lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Where would you like me to
      stick it?’

      And so began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas
      tree.

      Not a lot of people know this.

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    18. Daveyboy says:

      The money’s gone and the economy’s shot, but the ammo we still got.

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    19. maudy fricket says:

      It has to break. I want it to break. Then we can break them. Don’t wait until it breaks to figure out who will require your “attention”. Don’t forget the MSM. They are the public face of the enemy.

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    20. JayJay says:

      ***Police in the US state of Virginia say they believe the son of a state senator stabbed his father before shooting himself to death.***
      Uh-oh. Was he on SSRIs???

      ***The Richmond Times-Dispatch newspaper reported that Gus Deeds underwent a mental-health evaluation at a hospital on Monday, but was released due to a lack of psychiatric beds in the area.***

      I guess the answer is –yep!!

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    21. mike says:

      I am not surprised in any way about this article. The government lies about all things in my opinion. I wish this were not so.
      I see no improvement at all in the economy since the crash. I see people around me in pain due to lack of work. I have noticed a large increase in panhandlers in the city of Charlottesville Virginia. I have had several people attempt to bum ciggerettes and money at the University of VA Medical Center. Just signs of the times.
      I will say that I have noticed several places trying to hire lately. US Cellular, the movie theatre, and a local hotel. I found out that they were having trouble hiring. That shocked me. That is until I realized that people could probably make more money on gov’t programs than working at those places. So sad.
      My only question at this point is how long can this go on. Rush Limbaugh told a listener today that the gov’t can print money forever. That is true. Question is when will other gov’ts and our own people lose confidence in the almighty dollar. I so wish I knew the answer to that question.
      Wish Americans would just wake up.

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      • Peterson says:

        I wish they would also there Mike. Most of the people I see that are waking up are only half way there as far as figuring out what exactly is going on here. Example is a tree bigger bitching about there not being any good jobs to be had. Some of them are just flat out hypocrites tho.

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      • JayJay says:

        investmentwatchblog.com/mcdonalds-website-tells-underpaid-workers-to-sell-holiday-gifts-on-craigslist-and-quit-complaining/

        Take two vacations a year!!
        Sing along to your favorite songs!
        Breaking food into pieces results in feeling fuller!!
        Consider returning unopened purchases; sell stuff on Ebay/Craigslist

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      • braveheart says:

        I see similar things here in Memphis every day. in the last 3 years, I’ve had more beggars approach me than in my whole life before Obama. a few businesses here are actually hiring on occasion and have trouble hiring. I’ve seen more people get brainwashed with the ‘entitlement mentality’ in the last 5 years than ever before. the number of people on the public dole now is staggering. The SNAP budget has already been cut by 5% with talk of more cuts. I think soon the other programs will also get cut. It’s inevitable they’ll have a shortfall in revenue. more parasites than ever feeding on the host and the host has been shrinking for the last 5 years. When the host finally dies, that’s it. There won’t be another host to replace it and the parasites will start dying off.

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        • mike says:

          @Braveheart

          If the cuts you expect happen then that will be it. Even if the cuts are small and over time there will be riots eventually. We all know it has to happen. There is just know way this system can last. The entitlement mentality will turn into the riot and loot mentality. Then down goes the system.

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    22. The VOICE from the Outer World says:

      Good Evening Everyone,

      Last night an unexpected X-class event (X-1.0) was recorded, one orginating near to the Weatern limb of the visible face of the Sun…a ‘nearly’ departed region, which will LIKLY not have a significant inmpact of us here regardless…sooo, another ‘clean miss’ as it were.

      However, for over 20 hours I have been aware of ‘something odd’ with respect to NOAA 11899…something which I DO NOT understand. 119899 is become a large-ish monoplolar region in it’s transit across the visible disk, and such is seldom a concern For those who watch Solar activity, being usually non-threatening; remember that we usually see activity from area’s that show ‘polrity intermixing’, where the ptential exists for strongly opposing polarity regions to interact, one wth the other, Yes?

      Roughly 20 hours ago, while inspecting the HMIB(C) imaging (which is a ‘staple’ of HOW we assess a region’s potential for activity) I, personally, became aware that near to the geometric center of the region, as seen in that inmaging, there was an ‘irregularity’. Upon closer inspection (high magnification) what APPEARS to be a very small region of extremely chaotic mixing of various magnitudes of opposing polarity’s APPEARS there.

      This is outside of any experience I have had heretofor while viewing any such region and to be frank, should ANY here seeing this be of the order of those who are ‘true cogniscenti’ of all things Solar, have ANY input they might wish to share – thereon – I would be appreciativre to hear from those….truly.

      ‘WHAT’ this is…I cannot say, never having SEEN anything aimilar previously(?) This is borne out by the visible manifestation of ‘something’ there CLEARLY – also anommalous – in the associated Doppler imaging (HMID) for that EXACT point corresponding thereto. In EFFECT, if this were interpreted AT FACE value, then what is THERE is a unique ‘toroid’… a ‘doughnut’, of gases moving upward along either the perimeter of the region and thence being drawn BACK down into the central region…or identically, vice-versa. I am NOT crying ‘Doom’ here…I simply DON’T know WHAT this is, period. Thus, my invitation to any here – of HIGH caliber – who may well be ‘lurking’, as here many do…as I once did as well.

      This COULD be an ‘artefact’ of the imaging itself, but I do not think so, as usually those come and GO, this is quite stable in the imaging we have seen…for roughly the last day.

      In a phrase here, “ME NOT KNOW!…but ME REEAALLLLL CURIOUS!!!”

      JOG

      PS: Last night’s ‘read’ at “STAR” over at Solen.info gives a ‘running average’ for the days of this month elapsed (still have a couple of weeks to go yet…) of 158+ SFU thus far, for the 10.8 cm (Penticton/Potsdam) Solar Flux measure…EXCEEDING the reigning figure of 153.1 recorded in November of 2011…things ARE ‘progressing’ Folks.

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    23. “I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.”
      – Harry S. Truman

      ” I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds.”
      – John F. Kennedy He maybe should have not broadcasted that one.

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    24. Unreconsructed Southron says:

      A fake president giving fake numbers. What a surprise. Next thing they’ll tell us is that our money ain’t really money.

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    25. ready down under says:

      I have believed for some time the initial meltdown would start in the US. From there it will spread to the rest of the world (except the 3rd world countries who probably wont even know anything has happened)- rapidly. We here in Aussie will go down the chute with you.

      How anyone can deny the catastrophy is coming is staggering in its stupidity – like standing on the beach at Fukushima watching the wave and saying, “Dont worry, it wont reach us!!”

      I firmly believe preppers will be better off here in Aussie, only 23 million to start with, and lots of space. Once most of the people in our cities turn their toes up and those in the country “take care” of the golden horde who think they can take what they want from us out here we will be able to rebuild. The first year will be the worst for non preppers and I hope those that dont make it exit this world at peace.

      It is my duty to prep and provide for/protect my children and one grandchild and should I not make it to the rebuild stage I will at least have given my family as much of a chance as possible.

      Take care everyone (except the trolls :-) ) – hope to see some of you on the other side.

      Aussie

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      • Ugly says:

        Aussie.

        Thanks for the cheers.

        You are correct. It took me awhile to see it, but now I see it. As the USA goes, so does most of the world.

        Wish we had problem solvers. But we don’t.

        When you ever get to Boise or Pocatello, the coldest Fosters, or two, are on me.

        Cheers down under !!!!

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      • mike says:

        @ Aussie
        Well said. My fears are what the elite will do in the collapse period. They must have planned for it. I wonder what they have up there sleeve. History would say that there will be a major war. Has been in every other time where there was economic turmoil. I do think preppers will fair much better than most in the collapse.
        I must say I wish it would just happen. I don’t wish anyone the pain that is coming. I just would like to deal with this instead of my children and grandchildren. I feel that my generation caused most of this. I would hate to think we caused it and passed all the trouble to the next generation.
        You take care too my friend.

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      • Iowa says:

        I’d rather be in America when SHTF, my home. I love my country.

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      • Amen RDU Aussie!

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      • gone under says:

        It will start in Japan. the debt/gdp is 211% Double of what USA might be, but who knows because our gov lies and posts false data.

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    26. Tactical says:

      A bit off the topic but I believe it is related to the same lies:

      Just saw a video on Fox News about the spread of Potentially Fatal ‘Knockout’ Game by blacks targeting White Strangers Spreading Across America. SO far one man is killed but many were injured. I did a search and there are videos showing these attacks.

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    27. Iowa says:

      Is there a stage of tarring and feathering to get to, because I’m excited .

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    28. Emily says:

      @Tactical ~ I too saw that on Fox news.
      The game Knockout is horrible and chilling.
      To hit your opponent and get him down in one blow.
      Then, the poor, downtrodden, oppressed Blacks
      brag about it on their facebook, twitter, and blogs.
      They want ‘respect’ they are going about it the wrong way.

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      • Tactical says:

        Emily, A Navy Vet posted a minor criticism of the federal government and they made his life like hell. I don’t use Facebook for obvious reasons but how in the world you can post an actual assault and not be questioned by the so called authorities. If they ask to be respected in such a barbaric way, I’ll respect them as long as they don’t come from behind like cockroaches in the dark. I really got sick in stomach watching these videos. I guess we have our own version of Al Quida in the US ….what’s next? Beheading the victims to gain respect?

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        • Emily says:

          @ Tactical ~ All I know is that the male high pigmentation thug posted on his Twitter what he did, and stated, ‘She done Bleed A lot.’

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        • Tact…Ill respect them in the same way I would a wild dog or a rattlesnake…a bear in the brush…I give them wide berth and avoid them…true respect is based on earning it…no one just demands it and gets it…not really, fear maybe but not respect…thankfully I don’t live where they do…and no, I don’t have any real respect for them… :(

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      • Gonetoolong says:

        Definitley concerns me. It doesn’t matter how good I am at hitting a target, how many grains I have, number of shots, nada. When your ass is walking down the street and jigga comes out from nowhere and blindsides you, it is a real concern. Not practical to go around in a damn SWAT stance everywhere. Blacks wonder why we look at them funny. I would be wary around any male or female younger than say 35 and any male under say 55. Frickin nerve racking. How can one tell between a normal law abiding black citizen and a black person with out-of-the-blue ill wishes?

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        • Emily says:

          @ GonetooLong ~ Good point. I also agree about being wary around your listed age groups of the high pigmentation population. Or, I just choose to remain apart from them altogether.

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        • NONYMOUS5 says:

          You’re talking about inner city gangs/other gangs. You’ll see the same ‘collectivism” among all groups in a survival scenario. E.g. your neighbors could be any background/ancestry but pull together “collectively” as a team.

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      • Assault plain and simple, any time you see a group and your alone, or could be blind sided by these types of cowards, either change your path or pay a close eye to them.

        also if you see this go down , be a good witness and get best description you can, or tail them.

        if you can, render aid to the fallen

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    29. Be informed says:

      Simply put, cooking the books. Should any of us believe anything that the government says?

      Today something not very often seen occurred. Had 3 earthquakes along the south to southeastern borders of the Pacific plate. This shows a tension zone developing along the Pacific plate through Alaska that continues to other plates into India/China border region. Previous quake patterns show that southern India has been hit after a couple of these plate boundaries of the Pacific plate has been hit before, same locations.

      The 7.8 in the Scotia Sea did nothing to relieve anything as sometimes plate movements do. If anything the Scotia plate lurching like it did put more pressure on the South American and African plate. It is coming again, time it seems more like a great quake or mega quake based on the angle at which these earthquake areas are backfeeding the energy from. Same danger areas, one or more, as mentioned before:

      India/China
      Central Japan, Toyko area
      Kuril Islands to southeast Russia
      Aleutian Islands to southeast Alaska
      Cascadia fault
      California
      Southern Mexico to Central America to eastern Caribbean plate
      Ecuador to 22 degrees south or far northern Chile
      Far eastern Indonesia
      Paupa New Guinea to Loyalty Islands
      Fiji to Samoa back to Kermadec Islands to include all of New Zealand

      There have been 9 major quakes in 6 weeks and only one, the one in the Scotia Sea has had energy signatures pointing to the areas that got hit. Those areas have narrowed considerably as the above list shows. Most major earthquake swarms end with something above 8+. Imagine what recently happened in Illinois or worse in the Philippines happening on a mass scale in a highly populated areas like Toyko or Los Angeles. An 8 pointer or higher will do this and then some, especially from the fires. Another major quake is coming, will see if this is the end to the swarm or more to come afterwards.

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    30. Stew Pedaso says:

      If you just scroll down that list it looks just like the excuses you get from an addict in deep denial, or someone in dire need of an intervention.

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    31. Eagle Eye says:

      check this out:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ombh0hP1Ug&feature=em-share

      one real pissed texan spells it out.

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    32. possee says:

      “surprise surprise surprise!”

      The government(s)have been lying,cheating,and manipulating us for generations…in fact..forever..

      There’s so much bad news out there that we are inundated and overwhelmed with scandal after scandal on a daily basis..
      They create crisis after crisis and then another horror story is revealed..on and on it goes.

      This is all deliberate!

      Maybe 1 or 2 % of us get it..

      the rest?

      Hell, there’s always tv and cable to escape..

      and don’t forget Black Friday is fast approaching..

      now there’s where you’ll see some “real” action/reaction folks..

      stay tuned.

      possee

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    33. lonelonmum says:

      Switching off the TV allows you to unplug & look around at the evidence with your OWN eyes.

      Inflation figures?

      If you want to know what’s happening take a look at your utility bills or grocery receipts. Inflation is getting out of hand. More money buys less food (no matter what tricks they play with the packaging and ingredient quality). It’s that simple.

      Do what you can as a simple soul to hedge against inflation by purchasing a little extra at today’s prices. It beats the interest rates any bank will give you. This is also true of clothes a couple of sizes too large for poor parents.

      Unemployment figures?

      How many friends of friends do you know who 5 years ago were earning a good salary in a white collar job or had more contracts than they could keep up with in a blue collar one?

      Do what you can to get some money coming in from a variety of sources. Don’t keep ALL your eggs in one basket – good advice from Granny. Then if one income stream fails you, your kids still eat.

      Average Salaries?

      It’s NOT a natural state of affairs for able-bodied adults to be needing so much external assistance. This is true in the UK where the crazy tax credits system means a working man needs to beg gubberment for his OWN wages back in order to feed his family, or in the US where again the number on supplemental programmes is no longer limited to those working less than 40 hours a week.

      Can you garden? Can you barter skills with neighbours? Not everything has to cost hard currency. Do you participate in a Kids clothes swap every so often. Can you fix that item rather than replace it? Are you teaching your kids to forage?

      This is where those of us who weren’t born with a silver spoon in our mouths have the natural advantage in the new environment. Making do and mending etc comes easy to us.

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    34. Sheepdog says:

      How do you think Barry Sotoro, sorry, Barack Obama got elected in the first place? Nothing but deception surrounds this current occupant, the most transparent administration in history.

      Census Dept having truth issues, really?

      You mean like the creatures that came to my house at least ten times in 2010 asking invasive questions we refused to answer? Just the constitutionally mandated answer of number of people was offered and I was then told’ “I’m gonna report you!”

      Go ahead I said and that day I was added to “The List”

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    35. Sick of it all says:

      Maybe whitey has a new version of knockout. Quit paying for their existence. Won’t take em long to die of ,since they are helpless creatures. Shut it down for good.

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    36. Sick of it all says:

      When will the King have the white house repainted green and purple? It will no longer be called the white house. Instead it be called me & my bitches crib.

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    37. Warchild says:

      Anyone who believes the fed #’s really is a lost cause,as always,simple math will show the truth about all the #’s the fed spews out are lies!On a positive note,was working a area with no net then spent 3 days with a bud out of service for good,got back from 3rd tour of Afghan.We partied hard including eating local mushrooms that I am sure posters would disapprove of but tough!We did not talk war/politics/economy,just fishing/cars/scoots and did a lot of hiking wasted and drunk,was a good time and glad he is back home for good.I am sure he saw some tough things and if he ever wants to talk about it am all ears but seems he is doing well so far getting back to civilian life and when he is ready has a good job waiting in his families business,wish he was home for vets day but missed it by 2 days,at least he is home!

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    38. Think what ever you want, I wont have the time to tell you I told you so, not that you’d care at that point anyways, and.. its not my style

      Hells coming for dinner, and the table will be empty, and so will your belly and bank acct

      maybe not today, maybe they can make this charade run a few years, maybe 5, maybe more..still doesn’t matter the length of time..the end result will still be total collapse , and if your not trying now to subjugate it best you can, misery will be the order of the day, even if its short lived ( or your short lived)

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    39. jerrytbg says:

      Nice article Mike…I just love it when someone backs it all up with references that are undisputed.
      Of course there will be naysayers…there always is…
      Ah… such is life…

      The big question, when the hell are we going to bring these people to justice???

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    40. Be informed says:

      To me a prepper/survivalist is all right in my book regardless of race. Someone though pointed out to me that where there are a higher percentage of black people that crime is much worse than areas that have few black people. I look into numbers to prove anything first and foremost. The following statistics show that the worst 25 cities for crime in the U.S. have one thing in common, all have high populations of blacks. This is a very sad statistic and black people should stop blaming white people and other races and look into their own culture for the problems that are being created. When ANY race takes responsibility and actions to better themselves and stops the blame game, everyone benefits a lot.

      http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-america-2013-6#25-milwaukee-wis-1

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    41. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      I have never seen such Rape and Pillage of our Nation, as we witness today. Natural Resources and Treasury. Our Government hands out leases to our Land and Minerals, and what do we get, but an expensive energy bill as these traitors are stealing our oil and gas and selling it and exporting overseas, for a hefty profit. This needs to end today, and stop all export of energy from the USA. The Political Thieve Pigs give away our treasury with costly contracts to their insider buddies (Military Industrial Complex Piggys)as all this is is just one big Rape Fest of our economic future causing mounting debt and needless wars. We are being robbed of our natural resource just like in 3rd world Afghanistan. Wake up America, time to end the Rape, Pillage, Fraud and Exploitation of our Nation, our resources and our people, by the Gang of thugs, called politicians.

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    42. Nice

      what a jackass family, no wonder their kid turned out this way

      http://www.fox10tv.com/news/local/mobile-county/suspects-family-angry-at-good-samaritan

      maybe he shoulda shot him twice?

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      • It looks like Boston’s Finest is going to be watched by its own. As the result of new contract negotiations between the City of Boston and the Boston Police Department, police cruisers will potentially be outfitted with GPS devices designed to monitor how cop cars move around the city. The contract includes some additional changes and still needs to be approved by the Boston City Council.

        lets make it so they are NOT watched ” by their own” because that never works..lets have a separate group say citizens watch them..thats when we know we will get the truth

        doughnut shops are gonna be pissed…lol

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    43. thisTexan has had enough says:

      I guess we just have to assume that anything this regime says is a lie! They lie when it is easier to tell the truth!

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    44. Old Vet says:

      Police out of control and those who say they are not, should step up and clean house, gangs out of control, bankers out of control, corporations out of control, government out of control. Why because our elected officials are ALL FAKE, that’s why no CONTROL anywhere. The puppet masters are beside themselves, because they haven’t taken over the country yet. To do that Americans must be disarmed, so until that point we will just keep going like we are. The puppet masters don’t have enough boots or the BALLS to try disarmament now, but they will and there will be HELL TO PAY (they know it). I think Mother Nature in some way will put a stop to all this in the near future. Martial Law will be tried, again to many guns in the people’s hands to work, so the key to survival is the 2nd Amendment. Like Yogi Berra said “It’s not over till it’s over”.

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    45. aljamo says:

      The u.s. and world economy is in collapse mode. The people are fleeced from every angle by banking and the federal reserve cartel. Calling for the ending of the fed can and will get you killed. Witness Lincoln and Kennedy who created u.s. notes as the constitution declares to thwart usary. There were other attempted assassinations. I hold some of those 1963 United States Notes. Every aspect of our nation’s problems are fed created and managed. All wars are created for the bankers benefit. Ending the fed is the solution to America’s decline. That is why it will not happen without an unprecedented uprising by masses of humanity whose financial standing has declined. End the Fed. Save the nation.

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    46. Logicrazy says:

      The people in mass are still asleep, those that are awake already knew this. A few may wake up before they are crushed by reality, but History shows most will not. Keep the faith….

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    47. jimbo says:

      Obama is working hard to stop whistle blowers from coming out and telling the truth in all of government using intimidation, subjecting personel to lie detector tests and i am sure they have actually killed many patriots who were going to tell us the truth. We must do everything we can to protect them and encourage more to come forward or we will never know when the government is doing something illegal. Just look at what Obama has done to military whistleblowers.

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    48. jim in Va. says:

      No surprise,everything is being manipulated!

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    49. Jacob M. says:

      The government lied about numbers? No, not the government. They never lie! They’re such an honest bunch who only want what is best for us. *dripping in sarcasm*

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