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    CIA Whistleblower: “The Shadow Government Controls the Deep State and Manipulates Our Elected Government Behind the Scenes”

    Aaron Kesel
    September 15th, 2017
    Activist Post
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    The following article was originally published by Aaron Kesel of Activist Post

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    High Ranking CIA Agent Blows Whistle On The Deep State And Shadow Government

    by Aaron Kesel

    A CIA whistleblower, Kevin Shipp, has emerged from the wolves den to expose the deep state and the shadow government which he calls two entirely separate entities.

    “The shadow government controls the deep state and manipulates our elected government behind the scenes,” Shipp warned in a recent talk at a Geoengineeringwatch.org conference.

    Shipp had a series of slides explaining how the deep state and shadow government functions as well as the horrific crimes they are committing against U.S. citizens.

    Some of the revelations the former CIA anti-terrorism counter intelligence officer revealed included that “Google Earth was set up through the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and InQtel.” Indeed he is correct, the CIA and NGA owned the company Google acquired, Keyhole Inc., paying an undisclosed sum for the company to turn its tech into what we now know as Google Earth. Another curious investor in Keyhole Inc. was none other than the venture capital firm In-Q-Tel run by the CIA according to a press release at the time.

    Shipp also disclosed that the agency known as the Joint Special Ops Command (JSOC) is the “president’s secret army” which he can use for secret assassinations, overturning governments and things the American people don’t know about.

    FBI warrantless searches violate the Fourth Amendment with national security letters, which Shipp noted enables them to walk into your employer’s office and demand all your financial records and if he or she says anything about them being there they can put your supervisor in jail or drop a case against themselves using the “State’s Secret Privilege law.”

    “The top of the shadow government is the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency,” Shipp said.

    Shipp expressed that the CIA was created through the Council on Foreign relations with no congressional approval, and historically the CFR is also tied into the mainstream media (MSM.) He elaborated that the CIA was the “central node” of the shadow government and controlled all of other 16 intelligence agencies despite the existence of the DNI. The agency also controls defense and intelligence contractors, can manipulate the president and political decisions, has the power to start wars, torture, initiate coups, and commit false flag attacks he said.

    As Shipp stated, the CIA was created through executive order by then President Harry Truman by the signing of the National Security Act of 1947.

    According to Shipp, the deep state is comprised of the military industrial complex, intelligence contractors, defense contractors, MIC lobbyist, Wall St (offshore accounts), Federal Reserve, IMF/World Bank, Treasury, Foreign lobbyists, and Central Banks.

    In the shocking, explosive presentation, Shipp went on to express that there are “over 10,000 secret sites in the U.S.” that formed after 9/11. There are “1,291 secret government agencies, 1,931 large private corporations and over 4,800,000 Americans that he knows of who have a secrecy clearance, and 854,000 who have Top Secret clearance, explaining they signed their lives away bound by an agreement.

    He also detailed how Congress is owned by the Military Industrial Complex through the Congressional Armed Services Committee (48 senior members of Congress) giving those members money in return for a vote on the spending bill for the military and intelligence budget.

    He even touched on what he called the “secret intelligence industrial complex,” which he called the center of the shadow government including the CIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA.

    Shipp further stated that around the “secret intelligence industrial complex” you have the big five conglomerate of intelligence contractors – Leidos Holdings, CSRA, CACI, SAIC, and Booz Allen Hamilton. He noted that the work they do is “top secret and unreported.”

    The whistleblower remarked that these intelligence contractors are accountable to no one including Congress, echoing the words of Senator Daniel Inouye when he himself blew the whistle on the shadow government during the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987.

    At the time Inouye expressed that the “shadow government had its own funding mechanism, shadowy Navy, and Air Force freedom to pursue its own goals free from all checks and balances and free from the law itself.”

    Shipp further added that the shadow government and elected government were in the midst of a visible cold war.

    So who is Shipp and is he credible as a whistleblower, does he have credentials for the CIA? Aim.org wrote:

    Shipp held several high-level positions in the CIA. He was assigned as a protective agent for the Director of Central Intelligence, a counterintelligence investigator, a Counter Terrorism Center officer, a team leader protecting sensitive CIA assets from assassination, a manager of high-risk protective operations, a lead instructor for members of allied governments, an internal staff security investigator, and a polygraph examiner. He was tasked with protecting the CIA from foreign agent penetration and the chief of training for the CIA federal police force.  Mr. Shipp functioned as program manager for the Department of State, Diplomatic Security, and Anti Terrorism Assistance global police training program.  He is the recipient of two CIA Meritorious Unit Citations, three Exceptional Performance Awards and a Medallion for overseas covert operations.  He is the author of From the Company of Shadows–CIA Operations and the War on Terrorism.

    Shipp noted he was working with former NSA whistleblower William Binney but didn’t state what the two were working on together. Shipp is highly credible and may just be the highest level whistleblower. This leak is huge. He has been previously mentioned in the New York Times for blowing the whistle on the mistreatment of him and his family when they were put in a mold-contaminated home. He is also mentioned in a WikiLeaks cable during the GiFiles that I was able to dig up. Is this the beginning of whistleblowers coming forward to end the shadow government and deep state? You can watch Shipp’s full explosive presentation below.

    Aaron Kesel writes for Activist Post and is Director of Content for Coinivore. Follow Aaron at Twitter and Steemit.

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    1. PO'd Patriot says:

      This is also going on in Britain where Prime Minister May bashes President Trump for his bombing comments on twitter. Most Brits despise the muslims because they are animals. Yet May allows more to come in. This is how its going to be. Trump is also starting to bend on the DACA promise only because these are “fresh votes” to usher in the new world order. And by God if we can’t get enough votes from the ‘baby Greasers’ than we’ll fabricate the votes necessary to clinch it! Keep your ammo close and your guns closer!

      • gandhi says:

        wrong, the banks such as the federal reserve control the money and the politicians and the feds.

        • durangokidd says:

          Once upon a time maybe, but not anymore. The banks are subject to and subservient to the CIA Intelligence Complex. Money is just another TOOL of the CIC Shadow Government and its global agenda.

          Banking, finance, economies, and markets FACILITATE their operations. They use the banks to enrich themselves and the Deep State (which includes the banks, MIC, and others) to direct the flow of wealth to spread their power and influence.

          Think Don Corleone on a global scale. 🙁

          • gandhi says:

            yes, the NRA is the same. but why wouldn’t they be?

          • Finally a real and direct evaluation of what is actually taking place in our government and why, on another website beside my own ! I have been writing about all of these facts for over 5 years. But from the perspective of a person who was not as inside as this fellow. I was in a position to see much of it but not at the same level and I never signed any nondisclosure agreement but did require a security clearance for my work for companies like Lockheed Martin and other entities within the shadow government. There are many like myself who got close enough and had the sense to see it was out of control and beyond illegal activities and many more have started talking about all of it also. Most of you here are in fact quite clueless until very recently and that is because of people like me who helped open many eyes with simple common sense and a bit deeper reference point from real life experiences. Most Americans are so incredibly mind fucked already by all of it, they cannot even think any longer and only react from fear. That is a major point this fellow made. He is not afraid any longer so he set himself FREE ! I have done the same but in many more ways as I have long known our government is in fact our biggest enemy. Not the Russians or anybody else ! What many of you cannot grasp is that you are holding yourself back in a multitude of ways. Stuck in an echo chamber of stupid that binds you and defines you to the benefit of others.

            http://www.downtoearththinking.com/the-war-for-our-minds-.html

            http://www.downtoearththinking.com/our-government-created-google-and-facebook-.html

            • JDub says:

              DownToEarthThinking.com:

              Wow. Way to promote your website by insulting us all. You think we were all mindless idiots until YOU showed us the light? Who are you? Nobody knows you. You had no bearing on us figuring out what is going on. You aren’t that special, so get over yourself. Wow.

              • NO insults , just the straight up truth of many matters. Your small mind will keep you in your own wilderness. Part of why we are seeing all of this play out is minds and reactions like yours. You want to blame anybody that speaks any truth as if they are the fault some how or cast a negative ? And all I have done is speak a lot of truth, how you interpret any of it is up to you ! Honestly I could careless what your weak perspective is ? Sometimes the simple truth is not what people want to hear. That does not make it invalid or ego or anything else , it is still a simple truth ! I suggest you need to rethink a bunch of stuff, just as most Americans need to do ! Nothing new at all.

                So I would ask you as a proof of sorts ? what have you done to help people in any positive way ?

        • Kevin2 says:

          gandhi

          At the apex of the power structure lay the money.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        And the BS coming from Daniel Onouye. He’s been in the “system” for ever. Do you think for one moment that he has your best interest at heart? The moment is slowly becoming ripe for the “Patriot” to arrive. He prevailed over the Brits. Now he needs to prevail over the ‘corrupt’ in our midst.

        • Concerned-Citizen! says:

          The country is co corrupt and literally rotten to the core! It is so awful and disgusting. They ALL need to be dealt with. This republic is not going to survive…And we all thought Donald was the last great white savior and you can flush that big pile of dung down the drain.

          • GrandpaSpeaks says:

            I believe the term is FUBAR. The Republic won’t survive because the people have no sense of duty anymore.

          • C citizen, you could not be more wrong. Trump is simply just now finding out how corrupted it all really is and has been for a long time. You are throwing away your only chance to save anything and that is just stupid ! Would you rather have Hillary today ? No question the corruption is off the charts but that is certainly nothing new at all, even if BHO and crew did put it all on steroids for almost a decade !

            Have any of you realized or considered that a collapse of some sort may be our best chance to save ourselves ? Think about it, makes a lot of sense if you are not afraid and actually ready for such ! This is where the men and actual thinkers/doers are separated from the boys and fat prepper types.

            Realize this, the deep staters and NWO types do not want their systems to fail completely as many seem to think. Just enough to keep you under control. They are dependent on you creating tax dollars for them to fund their psychopathic adventures and life styles. So they are not at all untouchable by a long shot. They have many weaknesses and a huge soft under belly that can be undermined and penetrated. But not by fat dumb asses that are easily controlled !

          • Concerned-Citizen! No doubt we live in massive corruption and our government has morphed into a giant criminal enterprise. But realize all we are seeing is the necessary events to destroy all the maniacs who created this mess. They are losing and we will see massive changes going forward and that is a good thing. In fact it can be no other way given the underlying dynamics in place for decades. In a perverted way we can thank Obama and crew for showing us all just how easy it was to corrupt every event and matter inside government and our legal system. He put it all on steroids and that was his downfall ! The magic negro got too arrogant and destroyed the democrats. Maybe forever ?

            So look a the bright side , all their shit is exposed for all to see in living color as well as the deep state apparatus. People are finally waking the fuck up and it is way past time ! 5 years at a minimum maybe 10 ?

        • PO’d Patriot says, not many have even said what he said, so I give him credit for that anyway ?

      • JustMe says:

        That was an outstanding speech. Hope it goes viral.

        But, if it does’nt, it’s O.K., Trump is playing chess with them…

      • Martus says:

        Now who do you think is advising her to let the head choppers in?

        The AC who is related to Mohamed, to king David to the royalty throughout the world.

        The same man that stated that when he becomes king he will be known as the defender of all faiths.

        Not enough clues?

        Type in Google images “Prince Savior World”

    2. Heartless says:

      You know PO’d Patriot, I wish I could find a reason to argue or disagree with you. Trump is not what we all thought he was…… or we hoped he wasn’t. He’s just the tool used to reveal to the powers that be just who is who as far as any form of resistance that exists ….. is. Your last sentence, I’d take one step nearer – never be more than 3′ max from your firearm. 24/7. An arm’s reach at worst.

      • Genius says:

        Trump is EXACTLY what I thought he was. 3′ from your gun always? That’s pretty paranoid.

        • buttcrackofdoom says:

          yes, but is he paranoid ENOUGH?

          • R522790 says:

            Genius says:
            Trump is EXACTLY what I thought he was. 3′ from your gun always? That’s pretty paranoid.

            buttcrackofdoom says:
            yes, but is he paranoid ENOUGH?

            No.

            Given what is happening in the world, is being paranoid a bad thing? Is it not politically correct? Is it not too popular? Is it not what you think it should be?

            You say tomato, I say tamatoe. Who is right? Who is wrong?

            There will always be opinions that differ. You can say what you want. You have that First Amendment right. But do not shout at us trying to make your opinion the right one or the only one that matters. All of our opinions matter.

            • R522790 says, actually all that matters in anything are results, nothing else. Opinions mean zero, only actions and results ! You are in fact quite wrong. Hopefully you will rethink before it is too late for you ?

              • R522790 says:

                Opinions may mean zero to you, but to others they do not. Actions and results are a result of opinions (thought processes). You are what you think and say you are.
                You have the right to disagree and state that this information is wrong. But, that is your opinion. It may be too late for me and others, but that too is your opinion.
                Your truth, your opinion. My truth, my opinion. Who is right? Who is wrong?

                Without having to prove everything, let’s just agree to disagree.

                • Any opinion requires zero action. That is what you are missing. You are confusing the facts and realities before us today. You are in fact pointing out exactly why many people get fat, dumb and lazy ? They think they are being proactive by having thoughts, but they do not follow thru with any actions ? Ponder this because it is very important, and thanks for clearly making my point for me for others to see. Thoughts and opinions mean zero unless they are acted on both internally and externally ! This is also what generates fear and binds people to their thoughts.

      • The Deplorable Braveheart says:

        Heartless, I’m done with Donald Trump. We’ve all been had. When Trump signed that congressional resolution condemning white people that was the straw that broke this camels back. And I agree with your advice on being s close as possible to my weapons. The day is coming when our weapons will have to speak for us.

        • Deplorable, I am disappointed in some matters for sure, but have not given up completely on Trump by any measure at this juncture. This video explained in great detail what he is up against and the realities in place for all of us. Would you have rather had Hillary ? We still have to hang tuff with Trump and keep pressing. Maybe this will lighten your spirits.

          Both of these below have been up at the site for 2 years and I obviously had some influence on an outcome, at least on Arpaio so far. And I am hearing rumblings of the Bundy crew getting pardoned as well as new prosecutions about to be announced that are quite necessary. So don’t quit or jump ship now ! In the very beginning I said Trump is not the perfect guy and we will need to watch him and try to make sure he does not get absorbed and controlled by the corporatocracy and the deep state apparatus in DC. I was right then and still am. He is our only shot now and I am not bailing unless we see more negative policies ! He has accomplished quite a bit even if the PRAVDA/MSM criminals won’t say so ! And I guarantee you he is also on a learning curve and astonished himself at the corruption and depth of it all. I urge you all to take action with the links provided below and contact Trump and DOJ, ASAP for the Bundy crew !

          http://www.downtoearththinking.com/the-nevada-kangaroo-court-of-injustice.html

          http://www.downtoearththinking.com/stop-the-joe-arpaio-political-prosecution.html

          • buttcrackofdoom says:

            damn right!

          • deplorable infidel says:

            I don’t fault President Trump but the deep state that has him shackled. Even in a successful marriage or any relationship no one person gets their own way entirely. How could any of us even imagined how bad the corruption was, now Trump has first hand knowledge. Now he can see more than any of us the obstacles facing the country. He’s not stupid, he’s doing whatever he can to work around the enemy powers of the deep state.

    3. Pyscho/Crazy/Hopeless/Help Me says:

      The Chi-coms are a pullin’ the strings now! Hide your children! I will war-game all the chi-com jihadists with my beans and band aids… Quick, the library is about to kick me out again! Don’t get HAARPed! My scientist friend sells meth to a guy who said blacktop hackers are trying to steal his Netflix account! Trump is a robot powered by stem-cells who reads Agatha Christie novels!!! I live in a box :(. When the poo hits the shoe, don’t say I didn’t warn you.

    4. Ron Ahrens says:

      WELL NO SHIT CIA Whistleblower….Now what are you going to do about it????? I am guessing the CIA COWARD whistleblower is just going to make bank on telling us what we already know, after he helped destroy our children’s health, freedoms, and future.

    5. Sierra Dave says:

      If these whistle blowers are to be believed. We need names and addresses. And the information spread across the web for anyone to download.

      • rellik says:

        The best way to kill the “Deep” state is to kill
        the IRS.
        How to do that?
        If you work, claim 99 dependents.
        Save enough to potentially pay your tax.
        That way on April 15 you will
        have the option not to pay.
        If enough of us did that
        we could deprive the Deep state of
        their money.
        I have never been charged the penalty
        for underpayment of taxes( I’m poor,
        but I do pay taxes).
        Most people that work are on our side.
        What would happen if 20 million or so
        people refused to write checks on April 15?
        That might get somebody’s attention.

    6. The Council on Foreign Relations is the main organization for policy distribution of the Globalists. Nearly everyone of importance at the Dept. of State is from the Council. Not a conspiracy. A geopolitical agenda. We’re doomed!

    7. boopsiegirl says:

      if only President Kennedy had kept his head

    8. If you hadn’t seen, go look up ‘The Enemies Within’ documentary movie, or listen to youtubes of author.

    9. GrandpaSpeaks says:

      Shipp stated that Continuation of Government plans were secretly initiated after 911. The importance of this cannot be over stated. We cannot get rid of them now. Your pocket has been picked. That is why they scoff at the Constitution and take offense at our rights. We do not have either. I could listen to this guy all day and then some. Thank you Kevin Shipp, may God have mercy.

    10. aljamo says:

      All of the loose ends are long tied up by this criminal government. So the only truth coming out of the Trump presidency is when he campaigned how much he despised the Iran deal negotiated before he was elected, a true neocon if there ever was one. The US thinks they own the oil in Iraq and are still attempting to control parts of Syria. Bombs away in Afghanistan murdering the native people who oppose the occupation while American people remain mostly silent. Fake news never missed a beat. It must be something in the air or water dumbing down the masses to silently accept their condition. O say can you see.

      • Seems abundantly clear Trump is on a learning curve of the depth of the corruption just as most Americans are and likely most here included, and myself as well depending on how far back you want to go ? But to completely make point please note who it was that has exposed most of what we see today and how it is all completely interconnected ? No other person on the planet has helped to point it all out more than D Trump when he called out PRAVDA/MSM as fake news and corrupted. That started all manner of people to look deeper and now the uninformed are starting to see the massive corruption that is our government. They are now realizing it is simply a giant criminal enterprise and control mechanism and it is indisputable. Also we have seen many more whistle blowers come forward in many gov positions like Shipp and guys like Snowden and Assange prior to the Trump phenom. So all of it is a very good thing indeed. I give full credit to all of them for their courage and honesty. Do you think it took some balls for Trump to stand up on national TV and tell the CNN guy to sit the fuck down, your fake news, I am going to talk to this guy over here who does not tell lies as you do ?

        I cannot find any fault there at all, only courage. And I fully agree we are not seeing the prosecutions and other serious matters going forward as they should as well as many campaign promises. But can you see he is being undermined 24/7/365 deliberately by traitors on both sides and in the deep state ? As well he seems to be getting bad advice from his family members. So I am not gonna judge anything much quite yet, but I am seriously watching.

    11. Traitor Hator says:

      As in a state of denial ? The shadow government controls the media , Hollywood and the banks and key positions in government? What group owns the media ,Hollywood and the banks ? Take a guess? Rev.2:9, 3:9 John 8:44. Deny that? Speak up and be crusified. Speak not and be damed. Take your pick .

      • CrackSummSkulls says:

        Go look up the CIA’s “Operation Mockingbird” began in the 1950’s

        I have said on this site for years that the CIA needs to be defunded and defanged. They instigate conflicts around the world. Then line their pockets with cash. The CIA is evil to the core and the worlds largest Drug Dealer. 500 bombs were dropped in Afghanistan last month alone. So the CIA can continue their drug operations. And courtesy of the American dumbed down Tax Payer.

        Thw US Government is rotten. Zero morals or integrity. Sure fail to pay your taxes and they take your property at the point of a gun.

        Our America is lost. Now America is home of the Slave and land of the Fee.

        • GrandpaSpeaks says:

          The perfect slave is the one who does not realize they are one. Home of the slave and land of the fee reminds me of when my grand daughter once asked “Who is this Jose guy?” I asked her what did she mean. She answered “Jose can you see by the dawns early light?” Understanding the source of her confusion she was gently corrected. The national correction required, I am afraid, will not be so gentle.

        • Skulls, all true enough but there is a way to avoid most of their shit and defeat them. It is all about how we think and then act, very simple actually. As long as people keep playing their game they created by their rules they will be victims and controlled. Just gotta step outside the box and fully accept that it is far better to die standing on your own two feet, than on your knees like a whipped dog to a control freak MOFO ! This is the most important message to get out there because they control us all with FEAR ! And most of that fear is the fear of losing some form of our materialism. Materialism has become a tool and a control mechanisms here in USA today. So letting go of much of that mechanism is a very big step to anybodies perspective of any form of freedom or liberty. How many Americans are completely mind fucked and controlled by materialism ? And are the controllers themselves completely controlled by the same thing ? There in lies a major weakness because none of it is sustainable going forward and that is what they are seriously worried about as well as a guy like Trump pointing out their crimes for all to see ? The deep state is NOT omnipotent ! They are just people like you and me and their power is always subject to collapsing for many valid reasons ! Much of it is in fact coming to a head as we speak and already collapsing and I doubt that can be stopped by anybody. This is why I stay fit and well trained out always, because I know it has already started. It began the day H. Paulson started the bailouts 10 years ago. That was the very day USA defaulted for the world to see and it has been seriously down hill ever since and gaining momentum. NO rocket science at all.

          Accepting ones death is a form of courage, and it does make you a very dangerous person to those that oppose you. Already done that in spades on several occasions and matters in my life time. Something for many to ponder.

      • Old Guy says:

        I agree its them their jxx’s Its simple to excape moderation with well placed X’s

      • Po'd goy says:

        Substitute “international jxxry” for “the deep state” and this guy would be telling some actual truth.

    12. Richard Steven Hack says:

      Aside from a couple numbers and agencies I may not have heard of before, is there anyone here who didn’t already know this?

      The fact is there is nothing anyone can do about this. It’s already done. There’s no possible way anyone is going to get the rest of the country to stand up and do something – that ship sailed long ago.

      If you aren’t prepared to go around assassinating these creeps in the Deep State, you might as well forget about it. Only assassinating the top ten thousand or so people who run this country could possibly bring about any change at all.

    13. Kingscairn says:

      they put us against each other, let things get out of control, declare marshal law – bingo, all bets are off !
      How many humvee’s, tanks and helicopters do you have ?

      • Kingscairn, you are assuming all the people it takes to use that equipment will simply kill their fellow citizens to include relatives and loved ones ? I think that is a big leap and surely remains to be seen. In fact I think it is serious crack in their schemes. You are voicing exactly what they want you to think and that is how they use fear to control the masses !

    14. Remember, don’t forget to vote…

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA…phew…I need a fuckin’ drink.

    15. Anonymous says:

      Starting to think old Bernie Sanders is thee final takedown plan. He wants free college and
      free healthcare for every swinging appendage. Will someone please inform this commie
      throwback that we are 20 trillion dollars PAST broke. Fearing that more than half of the
      population would give him a landslide victory in the next election. It could happen.

    16. Asshat says:

      Who cares the groids are fixin to burn down St. Louis tonite. Live shit on fox. The new normal is Friday night riots. Sick of the black lives antifa commies. They’re out there with masks on. Stupid whites supporting the apes. Reporters interviewing people who are drunk and doped up. Losers. National guard is on stand by.

    17. Plan twice, prep once says:

      I watched the whole 1 HR + video.

      It’s worth it folks.

      Preppers need to have the Intel.

      You may not be able to fight it, but you need to know who the enemy is!

    18. That Would Be Right says:

      Now no one can point fingers at the alphabet soup Agencies.
      You have now been told the truth in an open forum and have no right to complain when they take it all.
      “You were told……so stop your whingeing!” OR
      “You had your chance to change things but chose to do nothing. So its not our fault that we were allowed to run rampant.suck it up !”

    19. Mrbud says:

      This will all end badly . The wickedness in high places of US is reaching a boiling point.

    20. Citizensfirstgovermentlast says:

      It just popped up in my head that seeings how all this illegal activity is out side of our constitution then they are not protected by it. Many believe it is dead and if so why still go out of their way to avoid it.
      We have not lost this fight for our constitutional republic they are trying to win by being in the shadows and and in our heads think sycing out your opponent. Now please follow this thought I had and kick it around. If they are out side the constitution then they know it is a place of know non-accountability and if so then we the people can be there as well.
      This place is what we the people call off grid this is the land of cash and barter, work under the table,and all things that we wish to keep on the down low. This is where the Big brother and all the privacy loss is happening. So there most be a outside the fence because they will not be in with us. They can watch us all the time but how do they move and do,they must be off grid and that is why wethepeaple can’t be their.
      Now if they are doing (things and not getting caught) then we can protect ourselves from them and not get caught. We must look for and find that place that is outside of the fence then wethepeaple can move the fence and place them in the fenced area. They know what they are doing is wrong time for us to move the goal posts on them.
      CB handles were fun but you can call me
      by my name Rob

      • Citizensfirstgovermentlast, excellent comment ! I completely agree it is all about how we think and then act.

        I would ask some of you here a very simple question. On more than one occasion we were overrun by NVA on the Cambodian border in 1968 and 69. If I had given up would I still be here and stronger today than I was then ?

        Ponder that simple fact and it will answer everything anybody here needs to know in every matter and event before us. This is exactly why I am different than many people and glad of it !

    21. aljamo says:

      Some people say that there will be inflation, others say deflation. I can’t see the price of anything getting cheaper and don’t expect to. I never thought I’d see the day when rents would be $1000+.

    22. Nomadic says:

      Unfortunately for the pop culture crazed United States … Senator Paul has no razzel-dazzle when compared to a master bullshyter like Bill Clinton. It must suck to be him and knowing….

      Their plan has not changed… their plan has not wavered and to date their plan has not failed.

      “We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy, Allah willing. And nothing is too great for Allah,”
      ………..Osama Bin Laden

      The only deviation being than North Korea has now become part of that plan.

      What Senator Paul lacks in razzel -dazzle is more than adequately compensated with his knowledge of the Roman Empire,Spanish Empire, British Empire, and Soviet Union….. who btw all crumbled under the weight of their military overreach.

    23. Old Guy says:

      Wages are getting cheaper. The prices farmers receive for crops are so low that without the government support subsidy payments the big agri buisnesses would go broke. small farmers go broke and their land is swallowed up by the big agribusinesses.

    24. JAKETHEPUP says:

      It’s all fine and well to speculate about who is running what and who’s in control. It does make for thought provoking discussion. The facts are that WE do not truly know anything except what we are being fed, that the Country is screwed-up and the rest of the world is worse. Even if you research every story and rumor to it’s origin there still is no guarantee of truth. I believe everything we see, read, hear and do is being manipulated to some extent. As far a President Trump…. anyone who puts their blind faith in Trump or any politician is naive. Yes I voted for Trump but do not think for a minute that Trump is not “inside” and don’t think for a minute that all the hype, anti-Trump and do nothing congress is not part of the game. WE the Patriots are alone in this fight and we are losing.

      • JAKETHEPUP, “WE the Patriots are alone in this fight and we are losing”

        I do not fully agree and we are winning battles regularly. But realize it took decades for all of this to morph into the shadow government we see today full of control mechanisms. So it will not be defeated quickly, it will take time and numerous battles of various kinds. Right now it is all about the battle for our minds ! But there are many outlier events that could take place any day to make it all far more violent and a shooting war, at least for self defense reasons. And that could escalate even further.

        http://www.downtoearththinking.com/the-war-for-our-minds-.html

    25. aljamo says:

      America’s expanding empire is bleeding the country dry at a rate of more than $57 million per hour. The government lost more 160 billion to waste and fraud by military and defense contractors. Tax payers are being forced to pay 1.4 million per hour to provide US weapons to countries that can’t afford them. The US government spends more on wars and military occupations abroad every year than all 50 states combined spend on health, education, welfare and safety. Former CIA head from 1981-87 William Casey said “We will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

      • aljamo , Agree on every point. This is why I say it is all unsustainable , because it is. Many millions more now see it all and that is a good thing. In fact I would say the majority now see it all for what it is to include many democrats. Realize the polls which supposedly tell us the pulse of the nation are all run by the deep staters so they are not gonnna say that now are they ? Americans are easily fooled, but they are waking up finally in ever larger numbers. I would say at least 60+ percent are seeing the many crimes and bad acts today. This also explains the low ratings of congress on both sides. It ain’t over by a long shot !

    26. pocomotion says:

      Run silent and run deep.
      They have the people they think they need to rule over the world. They infiltrate anyone trying to form groups that wish to stand in opposition.
      I guess this will slowly develop and get weirder until they wish to strike and pillage us. To come after those on their list — Blue helmets make sense but so does the police state thugs that forgot who they work for, you and I.
      I would say that the best method is to go to local town hall meetings. Have a retiree go to county/state/congressional/senate town-halls — hear, ask tough questions, report back to other like-minded souls.
      Like any uprising, I think it’s more of a gut reaction to something that can no longer be stomached.
      Hey, just suggesting to keep your thoughts, plans, action items and communication circles very small but ready.

    27. Kay123 says:

      So, was it the Shadow govmnt, or Obams govnmt that wiped out Andrew Breitbart, cuz I don’t buy the “heart attack” story….or the “accidental poisoning” of his autopsy doctor. Was the doctor going to give details?? Hmmmm

    28. Traitor Hator says:

      Will be interesting to see if anything happens after sept.23 . I was told even Nostrodamas mentioned the date. Must be getting hard for some not to be a foolish virgen. Boils down to faith. Not knowing the day or the hour is getting old. Separating the wheat from the Tares is time consuming. But nesesary.

    29. Martus says:

      Power Structure of the secret government:

      AC
      who will become the ruling Monarch over
      The royal gartr
      who are the heads of many organizations
      including the Freemasons
      who run the governments and have their home base in London.

      It is kept secret because it is on a need to know bases with orders filtered down from the Top and those below not having a clue from where they are coming from e.g. this gay agenda from the gay prince hiding his sexuality behind his wives. The third in the bed was the royal gay butler!

    30. Po'd goy says:

      Substitute “international jewry” instead of “deep state” and this guy would actually be speaking truth. “Deep state”, “the bankers”, “the elites”…all this alex jones- level BS distracts us from figuring out who is really destroying this country from the inside.

    31. phicrappazappa says:

      Shadow Government + Deep State = Federal Reserve.

    32. Kay123 says:

      I know some Free Masons…… they are not much different than a frat club, or a church group. Yes it is a world wide group of like minded members. Like the Optimist Club, VFW, Good Fellows Club. The secrets (1400’s??) were the masons building trade not willing to share trade secrets of architecture design and build to other tradesmen, to protect their future jobs.
      One documentary described them as religious but hunted and killed for practicing the “wrong religion”, and not sharing their ‘ building secrets.’ They gathered in secret to teach. ( Perhaps like todays unions or like Christians in Middle East? )
      I don’t know who to believe, I don’t know who really knows.
      OUR shadow govmnt is more sinister. They are Communists trying to strip the working class of all our power and goods, unions are now communist, also. Most could be found at the secret meetings of the Bilderbergs, G8, Illuminate and the Woods Foundation to name only a few secret societies.

    33. Anonymous says:

      To skip the introduction move ahead to (2:40)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehY-I_z03MI

    34. It’s all controlled through black magic – just like your perception of the photoshopped planes on 911….. take another look!

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