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    “Dollar Index Headed for Rapid Collapse” Over Next 3 to 4 Weeks

    Mac Slavo
    September 18th, 2012
    SHTFplan.com
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    If you think the Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing will only affect the US dollar, think again. Now that the United States has officially begun it’s third round of money printing to the tune of at least $40 billion monthly, central banks around the world will also act to ‘defend’ their currencies in kind.

    Moreover, because everyone is joining the fray, all of that extra money will make its way into key resource stocks and commodities, adding further upside price pressure to essential goods like food and fuel.

    It’s a race to the bottom, and the losers are the 99.9% of us who aren’t being kept in the loop.

    Quantitative easing is really another word for currency wars. A weak U.S. currency puts continued pressure on the Japanese Yen, the Chinese Yuan, the South Korean Won, the Australian dollar and other currencies.

    Cheap money also fuels speculation and this money quickly drifts into commodity markets and the ETFs that help propel commodity market speculation. This is inflationary for food prices.

    The lower the U.S. dollar the greater the intensity of currency wars. The break below the key uptrend line on the Dollar Index chart was an early warning of the third round of quantitative easing (QE3).

    The most important question now is to use the chart to examine the potential downside limits of a QE3 weakened U.S. dollar.

    The weekly close below this uptrend line was the first signal of a major change in the trend direction. It came before the announcement of QE3, last week.

    The third significant feature is historical support near 74.5. This is the upper edge of a consolidation band between 73.5 and 74.5. This is the downside target for the Dollar Index following a fall below 79.

    This target can be reached very rapidly over three to four weeks. A rapid collapse of the U.S. dollar puts immediate pressure on other dollar-linked currencies.

    There is a very low probability the U.S. dollar will resume its uptrend. The move below the value of the uptrend line and a fall below 79 confirm that a new downtrend has developed.

    The weakness in the U.S. Dollar will hurt export dependent economies and companies.

    CNBC

    There are two ways this may end – neither of which is going to be good for the average Joe:

    • The Fed et. al. continue to print, so much so that prices for food, gas, utilities and other key commodities that are linked to US dollar movements will rise exponentially. This rise in prices will accelerate the pressure on consumers as more jobs are lost in an ever progressing, self reinforcing economic death spiral. The pressure of rising prices, even though the Dow Jones may reach 20,000 or 50,000 points, will be so great that American consumers simply won’t be able to pay their bills or put food on the table.
    • The Fed and their brethren around the world won’t be able to print fast enough to maintain stable financial markets, leading to stock market crashes in Europe, Japan, China and the United States, which then leads to a shift of capital to US Treasury bonds, ironically strengthening the dollar. A weak US economy that isn’t creating jobs and is adding tens of thousands of people to an already overburdened social safety net every week will eventually lead to confidence being lost in the US government’s ability to repay its debts. As we noted in 2012 Predictions of a Mad Tin Foilist, the end result will be a currency crisis, or de facto default by way of hyperinflating away our debt.

    Both scenarios are virtually the same, as both will end with complete and utter destruction of Americans’ wealth.

    Despite the mainstream notion that inflation is under control and most of the money is sitting on the sidelines with banks, all we need to do is look at the price increases for consumers since private and public bailouts begin in late 2008. Gas has doubled. Food is up over 25%. Electricity costs and the cost of just about every other non-debt based asset has steadily risen.

    This is not going to stop.

    While timelines remain elusive because of never ending government intervention into financial markets and economies, the policies being instituted by central banks around the world can only lead to continued degradation of paper currencies and the rise in prices of all goods linked to those currencies.

    In January of 2010 we suggested a strategy of buying physical commodities at today’s lower prices and consuming those commodities at tomorrow’s higher prices. The trend for fiat paper money and physical assets has not changed and is, in fact, more pronounced now than ever before.

    The US dollar is being systematically weakened until it no longer exists as a viable means of exchange. When this happens you’d better be prepared to operate in a society where traditional money is replaced with mechanisms of exchange like precious metals, food, critical supplies and production skills.

    You can begin taking simple steps to prepare now. The collapse of the existing global paradigm is accelerating and if you’re not ready for it the price you’ll pay will be severe.

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    1. Casey Jr. says:

      In the fiat race to the bottom, imo FN’s still have the advantage of being used for international trade- especially oil. Long term, not really important because all fiat will be dust. But it leads to the thought that other currencies or economies will overtly collapse before ours.
      I’m a relatively new student of this macro economic madness but I wonder what keeps the Fed from being the only buyer at treasury auctions? They already buy way more than half and before long there will be no others left willing to hold our currency.

      • Be informed says:

        Just in time for the last window for Israel to attack Iran before the election. We will be out of the window this month on Thursday. October is a dangerous month for many scenarioes, including geophysical events. Earthquakes seem to really pick up around October.

        Sent Mac a massive proof that polar earthquakes are precursors to 6.5+ earthquakes within 15 days. Most earthquakes after polar earthquakes of 5.0+ occur though within 7 days. 47% occur within 7 days and 30% occur within 8-15 days, with 77% of the time between 0-15 days. A tiny ring (only 140 miles wide) between 55.0 and 56.99 degrees south when there is an earthquake of 5.0+, 78.2% of the time within 15 days there is an earthquake of 6.5+ in the world. 54.5% of the time it is within 7 days, and ONLY 23.7% of the time it is within 8-15 days. So watch for the polar regions 58.5-90 degrees south, 68.5-90 degrees north, and 55-56.99 degrees south. for 5.0+ earthquakes, they mean large earthquakes to come about 4 out of 5 times.

        Watching October like everyone else that follows everything for all sorts of chaos. May happen before, but it sure seems to be building for October doesn’t it?

        • peteropolis says:

          BI, heard any news on the passing of the UN treaty?

          ww.un.org/News/Press/docs//2012/dc3389.doc.htm

          • Be informed says:

            @ peteropolis. Just let those a$$holes of the most worthless organization on the planet even try to take away people’s right to defend themselves in the U.S. Truly those u.n., (useless numnuts) would have a war on their hands the second they try to override the 2nd amendment. You know what some president candidate should have done long ago, run on the platform of the U.S. getting the hell out of the u.n. Better yet work on disbanding it all together. The un is totally worthless and does thousands of times more harm than good. The un now is actually worse than when it was the league of nations, and back then it sucked swamp water, this really shows what waste of waste it is now.

          • peteropolis says:

            I hear ya.

            @Mac

            any chance an article can come with the MSM not having a peep to say about this? Or is it overplayed?

          • don't tread says:

            Wasn’t it Alger Hiss that was responsible for setting the whole UN thing up? If so than his name fits..hisss…hissss….as in poisonous viper/the dragon.

        • John Q. Public says:

          Since the banksters now have their own private police force, it will be harder to arrest, prosecute and punish them.

          The Federal Reserve, a Privately Owned Banking Cartel, Has Been Given Police Powers, with Glock 22s and Patrol Cars
          September 17, 2012
          http://www.alternet.org/print/economy/federal-reserve-privately-owned-banking-cartel-has-been-given-police-powers-glock-22s-and

        • clint hospo says:

          be informed- so what areas are going to be the hot spots? can you just say the countries or islands are that in trouble in your opinion? I know you follow this stuff well and you know your crap. Where Mac? whats he on vacation havent seen any posts from him in awhile.

          • John W. says:

            How the hell would he know? Damn you people are easy to fool. Send me twenty bucks and I will give you the real deal as to where the next earthquake will hit. Glad he is having fun but anyone who claims they can predict earthquakes is being less than truthful.

      • Nunjobizness says:

        Mac and the rest of SHTFPlanners – REALLY scary!
        Lindsay Williams predicted this a few years back – just saw this today:

        Dollar no longer primary oil currency as China begins to sell oil using Yuan

        http://www.examiner.com/article/dollar-no-longer-primary-oil-currency-as-china-begins-to-sell-oil-using-yuan

        So many will not understand how important this is… Keep prepping.

      • John W. says:

        I would guess that they now are the only buyer at the auctions. That is what I have read. No Fed no auction buyers.

      • Nehweh Gahnin says:

        Hi Casey. The reason the Fed is the main buyer at the treasury auctions is that the bonds carry a real negative interest rate, when inflation is factored in. And they seem to still want the United States not to default, for whatever reason.

        At one time, there was no problem finding buyers. That’s how China picked theirs up, and Japan, PIMCO, etc. But those creditors are now selling, which operates to drive the yields even lower. So the Fed comes in, adjusts its balance sheet (often referred to as “printing” money), and buys up the bonds.

        • Nehweh Gahnin says:

          I should add that the lower yields is precisely what Timmy likes to see. If the yields were to climb, the U.S. would be incapable of covering the interest payments, and would default.

          • 762x51 says:

            Interest rates WILL climb eventually whether that is next month or next year I do not know. A 1% increase in those rates means the US will be paying $800B per year in INTEREST only. American taxpayers will be fully funding the Chinese military at that point, what could go wrong?

            Bodies will pile up in the streets of America long before that happens.

      • durango kidd says:

        EXCUSE THE INTERRUPTION: This SOB just gave O’bummer the right to incarcerate Americans indefinitely under NDAA:

        Second Circuit Judge Raymond Lohier

        WE need to make this bastard FAMOUS! Take his name viral. This SOB has violated the Constitution of the United States; and has made it LEGAL for O’bummer to do it too!

        Copy his name and office and post it everywhere. This SOB needs to regret he ever made this decision.

        Start a petition, post his name everywhere this Federal Judge needs to GO! TREASON!!!

        • John Q. Public says:

          DEFINITELY!

          Take names for the trials!

          When this is over, let no perpetrator, bankster, theorist, enabler, talking head, apologist, mouthpiece, financier, bureaucrat, or enforcer escape just punishment.

          All that has been looted over the centuries must be repatriated.

        • REB says:

          DK….did he(lohier) do this after this other judge(Forrest) ruled against obummer?

          By Basil Katz

          NEW YORK | Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:25pm EDT

          NEW YORK (Reuters) – A federal judge made permanent on Wednesday her order blocking enforcement of a U.S. law’s provision that authorizes military detention for people deemed to have “substantially supported” al Qaeda, the Taliban or “associated forces.”

          U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest in Manhattan had ruled in May in favor of non-profit groups and reporters whose work relates to conflicts in the Middle East and who said they feared being detained under a section of the law, signed by President Barack Obama in December.

          Wednesday’s 112-page opinion turns the temporary injunction of May into a permanent injunction. The United States appealed on August 6.

          The permanent injunction prevents the U.S. government from enforcing a portion of Section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act’s “Homeland Battlefield” provisions.

          The opinion stems from a January lawsuit filed by former New York Times war correspondent and Pulitzer Prize winner Chris Hedges and others. The plaintiffs said they had no assurance that their writing and advocacy activities would not fall under the scope of the provision.END…Actually there more to the article there if anyone wants to go there)

          So did she just get overruled? Just wondering,thanks!

        • clint hospo says:

          Durango thanks for this post! This raymond Lohier a total piece of shit and sellout including obama as well, for thinking they can just do what the ever the hell they want. this is war on the people. This SOB is pushing too far and im suprised more people are not following this. Its a big fricken deal! The non-preppers that read this should understand, “why would they ever arrest citizens in america that crazy. They will not do that, lol, whatever your dreaming.” I don’t think so idiots. This just means they know violence is going to breakout in america very very soon. There are going to be too many people to read them their rights! When the masses protest and break and start fires, they are not going to give thousands of people a court appearance. They are going to put them in Fema camps and detain them. “oh but the police will handle that!” Don’t think so idiots, when thousands of people are revolting against the US the people that are going to be in control are the troops and that’s the reason why they are doing it. If you can’t put the pieces together on that one and still believe nothing is going to happen, then you are niaeve!!!

        • REB says:

          Thanks DK,no need to respond,he did overrule her…paybacks are a comin….

      • JustMe says:

        Just as the Great Depression was created to break the will of that generation, the coming depression will break the will of this one. That previous generation accepted incremental socialism they would not otherwise have tolerated. This genreation is being prepped for the increasing socialist control of thier lives, that the parasites will press to the level of marxism…

        “5) Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.” 5th Plank of the Communist Manifesto, by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels

      • durango kidd says:

        While the dollar will drop and drop significantly, the drop in value is not due to “monetary expansion”, or “printing”.

        The dollars that Uncle Ben has created since 2008-2009 for the most part, remain in the banks to replace their losses as they de-leverage US.

        The drop in value of the dollar was PLANNED by the GB’s and it is the natural evolution of FREE TRADE. The GB’s have given their Chinese Communist PARTNERS as much of the pie that they can and still retail their dominance.

        That transfer is over.

        The pendalum is now poised to swing back toward the US and Europe as the cheaper place to do business as both locations have reached a political stage near revolution.

        This revolutionary edge is intended to give the PTB Globalists the leverage they want to tighten the screws on the economic system they want that benefits them and enslaves you!

        The PTB have pushed the envelop as far as they can and are now back tracking to protect their economic and political base in the West.

        Watch the Chinese Yuan rise significantly now in value against the Euro and Dollar to give Chinese consumers the opportunity to buy cheaper American and European products with their stronger fiat that is coming.

        The idea that the dollar will erode in value to a point where it is no longer a viable means of exchange is TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

        That’s pure propaganda Mac, and beneath you. Is the pound no longer a viable means of exchange? It has not been the dominate world currency in 60 years, but it still is stronger than the dollar, while the UK has TWICE the debt to GDP ratio of America.

        The fact is that the GB’s manipulate all currencies. Notice my peeps that the small nations with developed economies and smaller GDP generally have stronger currency than larger nations (think Sweden, Norway etc).

        Why?

        This phenomena is designed to prop up the living standards of these countries by giving them a stronger currency. For example, there is NO rational reason for the Pound to be so much stronger than the dollar. Its manipulated by the GB’s to protect the purchasing power of the UL population, so they can buy from US.

        MAC your statement that the dollar will not be a viable currency for exchange is defenseless, without merit, irresponsible and nothing less than FEAR MONGERING.

        You should be ashamed of yourself! I expect better than that from you and SHTF Plan.

      • AZ Ready says:

        Same shit, different day!

      • I agree! The US dollar will probably be the last to bite the dust. The rest of the world will be hyper-inflated a long before the US gets it in the gonads!

    2. eppe says:

      BUY EVERYTHING NOW!!!

    3. Jim says:

      There is no way for one currency to thrive/survive in a total collapse of fiat monies. The euro, dollar, franc, yuan or whatever all must fall at the same time for there to be a dramatic shift in wealth. Add to that a singificant reduction in overall population and the elites are ready for their new world order.

    4. Bill says:

      Watch the movie, End of the Road. I watched it on Netflex. Great, easy to understand explanation of what we’re in right now.

      God Bless America.

    5. copperhead says:

      Like I have said 30 days at the most get it now while you can NOW! Chinese general says to the people prepare for war with Japan. The pop off value is READY to go in this world. All it is going to take is one event to trigger it and we all know there are alot of events that could happen. WWW 3 will be fought in ever nation and yes right here in this country on the street, in the air, every where. Guess which one will be first on the list to take, step to the window and look out, do you see it? There is one and only one country that is our ally and that is ISRAEL yes ISRAEL. I know almost everyone blame’s the JEWS for everything, but they are a very few number compaired to the rest of the world. We all have had a hand in this so we all should take equal blame. There is one thing that I know about the JEWS is this, MY SAVIOR IS A JEW and the JEWS are GOD’s chosen people. So prepare now like there is no tomorrow, because there just might not be.
      LIVE FREE AND STAND TALL!

      • iowa says:

        I love all 12 tribes of Isreal. God will take care of them. Lets worry about America first since we live here.

        • don't tread says:

          Amen to that iowa! God wasn’t just referring to the Jews when He said “you are the apple of my eye”. The other eleven tribes make up the house of Israel. Some theologians/scripture lawyers say that the “ten” tribes were lost after they crossed the Cacuses Mtns. God hasn’t lost any of his children; especially the caucasians. Many descendents of those tribes settled right here in North America.

          What makes up the apple of your eye? The pupil. That is one of the most protected parts of the body. Just sayin’.

        • eeder says:

          yes iowa. but the israel you refer to is not where it is today. it was, what is part of present day iraq.

      • I am with you. I’ll choose to stand with Israel any day over the UN and Muslims that yearn for her destruction. I get soooooo tired hearing Zionist this and Jew that. God’s pocket watch focuses on the land of Israel not the US.

        • John Q. Public says:

          Neither have you carefully parsed the Mosaic Covenant. In Deuteronomy 28 http://www.drbo.org/chapter/05028.htm and Leviticus 26 http://www.drbo.org/chapter/03026.htm God specified the contract of the Mosaic Covenant. He specified the duties of the Israelites to obey Him, the rewards if they obeyed Him, and the penalties if they disobeyed Him. See also: Leviticus 18:28; Numbers 14:23; Deuteronomy 4:26-27; 6:18; 7:12; Deuteronomy 30; Ezekiel 13:9; Jeremias 7:15; 29:13-14.

          God did not promise to reward disobedience with power, admiration, or a real estate deal in the Middle East; He promised dispersal and misery, even to vomit them out.

          Keep ye my ordinances and my judgments, and do not any of these abominations: neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you. For all these detestable things the inhabitants of the land have done, that; were before you, and have defiled it. Beware then, lest in like manner, it vomit you also out, if you do the like things, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. Every soul that shall commit any of these abominations, shall perish from the midst of his people. Keep my commandments. Do not the things which they have done, that have been before you, and be not defiled therein. I am the Lord your God. Leviticus 18:26-30
          http://www.drbo.org/chapter/03018.htm

          • Anton Hackl says:

            @John Q

            Stick by your truths, John.
            Many here are ignorant of said truths & hence, blindly support the evils, schemes, lies & ultimately, the destruction of real Christianity by their unconsidered worship of the synagogue of satan types.

            They will lament their mistaken faith in the impostors when, an ever-increasing number of their offspring come home, wrapped in flag-draped coffins after needlessly dying in wars engineered & instigated by the wicked, Christ-hating tribe.

            Bide your time, brother.
            Its coming soon.

          • John Q.,
            All that you say and the scripture you quoted is indeed true, as the Old Testament judgments against Israel showed time and time again. However, I’ve read Revelation at the very end of the New Testament too, and would ask you to consider that God’s not yet done with the Jewish people. Their day of repentence and national atonement is yet to come, and it WILL come. It has been prophesied and must happen, and it will bring God great pleasure, as does any sinner who turns his heart to see Him.
            In the meantime, we Christians need to be careful of our stance toward the nation of Israel and individual Jewish people. Obadiah makes plain that whatever someone dishes out toward Israel will come back to rest on his own head. And while God allowed heathen nations to punish Israel when they’d sinned, he also punished those who were so eager to hurt and destroy his people.
            It’s also true that many Jews are hostile toward Christians and, as another posting makes plain, this sometimes leads toward wrongful acts on their part. But the Apostle Paul wrote that the salvation of the Gentiles, those once without hope but now “grafted in” to God’s family, would serve one very important purpose — to provoke the Jews to jealousy and cause them to (eventually) turn back to the Messiah. The vile acts, then, show just how jealous and angry they are, so we can be sure that Christianity is serving its purpose.
            So let’s be in prayer for the Jews, that God’s purpose for them will prevail, and the Messiah will reign in their hearts. We all need to find our peace with God and prepare ourselves for the challenging times ahead.
            God bless you all–

          • jayjay says:

            Jeremiah 31: 31-32
            “Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,
            not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, MY COVENANT WHICH THEY BROKE, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.

          • Gregory8 says:

            John Q: You must be a christian because I can feel the love of the lord pouring out from you. Or is it the burning anger of an antisemitic racist and a hatred you feel towards all those who disagree with your worldview? I’m a little confussed, you see it’s hard for me to tell when you quote scripture as so many twisted people do to justify their behavior. But one thing I do know is that like most, but not all, religious folks, you’re a coward hiding behind the Bible to disguise your true intentions. People like you aren’t adult enough to take responsibility for your own thoughts, words, and deeds, you have to put them off on God. It’s time to grow up and grow a pair pal. Stick to the script and try to provide meaningful suggestions to our current situation rather some whacky conspiratorial diatribe that never offers any solutions, only blame. Sorry for being rough but some tough love is needed.

          • Highspeedloafer says:

            Excellent post @ Linda. You are a very wise woman.

          • John Q. Public says:

            As usual for you, a lot of empty words on your part, Gregory8.

            There is right and there is wrong.

            I oppose murder and theft and I believe that murderers and thieves should be punished.

            If YOU think that is “antisemitism,” it speaks volumes about what YOU think “Jews” do.

        • David says:

          If God sees fit to have Israel destroyed, that is his plan. If it is truly the holy land, sacred ground, he would stop its destruction. If he lets it happen, it fits his own plan and we have to be ready to accept it.

        • John Q. Public says:

          @ Linda

          Indeed some from the synagogue have converted and will convert and so we pray and work for their conversion.

          In no way does that excuse anyone from assisting them in their genocide and economic crimes against humanity or excuse anyone for promoting their Master Race creed and lies.

          Jesus was quite clear that their Master Race conceit (a rather amusing conceit since most of the pretenders trace their genetic roots to European Georgia, Khazaria, not the MIddle East) does not save them: “And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham.” Matthew 3:9

        • Mr. Mojo says:

          Are you kidding? Israel is the cause of so many of our problems.

          • Gregory8 says:

            Mr. Mojo: looks like we both got a lot of thumbs down from the religious nut-cases, I mean loving christians, who hate life so much they can’t wait for the ‘rapture’ and armageddon. I’m just a little surprised that we haven’t received hate filled responses. Maybe they’re turning the other cheek this time.

      • jimbo says:

        i have always stood with Israel and always will. the world s making a mistake many others have made in the past and that is underestimating Israel. they are extremely technologically advanced and if if their back is against the wall watch out. they could level all the countries of the ARAB SPRING with nukes if they wanted too but they are a decent people who Obama has sold down the river. God bless Israel and the USA!

        • Eagle eye says:

          none so blind, good luck with that.

          • John Q. Public says:

            Exactly! Here is a tiny sample of what the “decent” genocidal people have been doing this year so far:

            Februrary 2012 “Death to Christians” painted on the walls of the Monastery of the Cross in Jerusalem.
            The Vandalized Abbey of Latroun By GIORGIO BERNARDELLI
            La Stampa (Italy) • Sept. 5, 2012

            March 17, 2012 Consistent with Judaism’s imprecations against Gentiles, Chabad leaves man to die.

            April 16, 2012 Israeli Army Colonel beats Danish human rights activist

            July 17, 2012 Israeli Lawmaker Destroys “Abominable” New Testament as “Christians” United for “Israel” Meet in Washington

            August 26, 2012 Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, spiritual leader of the Israeli political party “Shas,” calls again for genocide.
            Rav Ovadia Yosef: We Must Pray for the Destruction of Iran By Jacob Edelist, The Jewish Press, Aug, 26, 2012

            September 5, 2012 “Jesus is a monkey” spray painted on the Benedictine Abbey of Latroun (between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv).
            The Vandalized Abbey of Latroun By GIORGIO BERNARDELLI
            La Stampa (Italy) • Sept. 5, 2012

            (this site hates to allow links to the evidence)

          • John Q. Public says:

            @ Mac

            On a contentious topic, it is appropriate to provide evidence in support of one’s position… and there is certainly a mountain of linkable evidence noting the Zionists’ crimes against humanity. I generally cite the rabbis themselves and the Israeli press since it becomes even more patently absurd for Zionists to counter with the ritual epithet “antisemitism.”

            • John Q – I always appreciate your contributions to the site… And I rarely “censor” anything you put down … if it doesn’t appear it is probably an automated censor by the AKISMET system, or very long.

              However — I have a solution for both of us : The forum is coming soon! (I know I’ve been saying it for quite some time, but it’s going to be up and running in short-order)…. That will allow everyone to start their own threads and post whatever they need in order to get their thoughts and supporting evidence out!

              Thanks!

              Mac

          • John Q. Public says:

            Overall—good work, Mac.

        • phdinlogic says:

          Jimbo, I respect your opinion. However, Israel was placed where it is by the Rothschilds at the conclusion of WWII (Balfour Declaration). They, like their collegue Albert Pike, have Iran in the position they have wanted for WWIII. The United States is run by the Luciferions and only God will help the people not converted to the dark side.

          • phaedrus says:

            revelations 2:9
            I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

      • Be informed says:

        @ copperhead. You bring up something that should terrify everyone, WW3 will be fought in every nation. I totally believe that there will no longer be the Switzerland type neutrality. There will no longer be a wide ocean separating war from anyone, other than deserted island regions. China will ally itself with North Korea and fight South Korea and Japan, I don’t know how Vietnam and all the other south east Asian countries will choose sides, but they will be forced to. It may be though that the planet that beats everyone to the punch.

        I looked at 39 years worth of earthquake data and found many different facts that I suspected. First that polar earthquakes definitely occurred before big earthquakes do. I have determined this 471 out of 612 earthquake sequences for 77.0% since 1973. The data I sent to Mac is very extensive and I don’t want to blog down a comment section with it unless Mac gives me permission to do so. I used a checklist on earthquake activity on 55-56.99 degrees south to determine that 402 out of 514 earthquakes of 6.5+ have occurred at 78.2%. If you would like to see the data maybe Mac could E-mail you the data I sent, it is interesting to see proof of something like this.

        Earthquake activity has increased a lot since the 9.1 earthquake back in the end of 2004. The plates are really moving, as volcanoes have also increased. I don’t have a clue about 2012, but I just know what I see in black and white from the countless hours I have gone over the information. I know that 3 californian earthquakes have had deep north polar earthquakes before they have occurred above 80 degrees north. This was another reason I did this data was to have a record of past earthquakes and where the activity was beforehand. Since the New Madrid really has not had severe movement I don’t have anything to go by before. No seismographs in 1812. I can only try to estimate the focal points aiming towards the fault.

        I tell everyone this, that everyone may just wake up one morning and find out that several 8+ or even 9+ pointers have happened and are still occurring. I have always wondered about the plates coming unlocked and moving like three dimensional bumper cars and not relocking for hours or days. Everyone seems fixated on politics, war (for good reasons), the economy, and other manmade issues, but forget about the enormous potential of the Earth and the Sun to flattened everything in almost an instance and there is nothing that man can do to stop it. All we can do is be ready for it the best we can.

        • clint hospo says:

          Imformed_ what is your gut on where earthquates will be going off what areas,(states or islands or general areas) and your saying the plates could move non-stop for a few hours of shaking and moving or longer or shorter? Interesting to know about this. I dont believe in the myans a tribe that tied their nuts and chopped off heads of others and the dec 21 thing but im more interested in your predictions.

          • Be informed says:

            @ clint hospo. To tell the truth when I have used my intuition about earthquakes I am not very often correct. When I use science this is when the accuracy really hits. On August 10 article, “Trapwire” I gave 14 locations in which I suspected of being hit and high stress areas. About 2/3 of the way down at August 11 at 10:56AM. Already 2 of these locations have come about, twice on the western Caribbean plate. I still very much think that the eastern Caribbean plate is going to be hit hard, I have seen this plate undergo much pressure starting with Haiti.

            What I did with all this data from 39 years is take the locations of these earthquakes in the polar regions and then they should point to where pressure has built up for future earthquakes. Using this information of the past to predict the future is done all the time with weather, as these pocket weather forecasters are exactly that. Tension points are examined on failing dams of all types of material from concrete to earthen and construction crews can sometimes prevent it from failing. Levees are the same way.

            Before an earthquake is ready to break it sends signature energy waves to various spots, especially the polar regions because as spinning mass that rotates around the sun, the planet is going to show this imbalance towards the top and bottom of the Earth. Smaller polar earthquakes can show this, but it seems to really appear more so when the polar earthquake reach at least 5.0.

            Right off the top of what I see as areas that are primed right now are; the Australian plate around New Zealand, big time India, Pakistan and Iran, the Caribbean plate around the outside islands southeast of the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, San Andreas fault, Ecuador and Columbia, Kuril Islands, and western Alaska especially around the Aletuian islands. This is where right now that the pressure seems to be the highest. Notice the lack of any 5.0+ in the polar regions and the lack of much earthquake activity as of the last week and a half or so.

            Just watch the earthquakes from 55-56.99 south, and everything north of 68.5 degrees north and south of 58.5 degrees south. You start to see 5.0+ earthquake there and most likely it is coming. 11 days before the Japanese earthquake of 9.0, there was an earthquake of 5.6 near 60 degrees south. 17 days before that huge horizontal earthquake there was a polar earthquake at 61 degrees south. I found it very interesting that many earthquakes occurred 14-15 days after the polar region activity started. The moon has a cycle of 29.53 days and this would tie in that, as the moon would be directly opposite of when the polar cycle began. The moon has much pull and push on the plates. The sun at its distance of 93 million miles on the average, has ONLY 40% the gravity influence of the moon.

            Science can be this way, putting pieces together and all of a sudden a picture begins to develop, just like a jigsaw puzzle. Unfortunately many in the science community have taken on the mannerisms of the non-prepper and put blinders on to new ideas and therioes. It is only when much proof is finally presented that they will even look at something that can solve a problem and puzzle. Just look at how even the obvious of what is happening with the world is so much dismissed as something that just won’t happen. We sure live in a sad world don’t we.

          • don't tread says:

            I agree with you, clint. I appreciate you taking the time to keep us informed, BI. I believe you know more about the Earth’s movements and how to make the scenario predictions much better than the so-called “experts”.

            I will say this, you have your work cut out for you. We have been warned of these days coming and that means we ain’t seen nothing yet. If the dreams/visions/predictions of Edgar Cayce are relevant, then the USA will have bigger problems than worrying about Israel and Iran. The San Andreas and the New Madrid are real possibilities. I wouldn’t take any chances if I lived in these areas. With the recent increased activity, I would begin packing “yesterday”.

          • clint hospo says:

            be informed- we do live in a sad sad world, we have violence everywhere and people trying to control us. its happened from the beginning of time people trying to control everyone. its in our nature as wild animals to do so. thanks for posting that and taking time to explain this. I was anxious to see when you posted this to my questions thanks. I took a geology course in college but mainly took health courses and some pre-med. my writing sucks but can’t be good at everything. Did get my bachelors and did 6 years in navy. This NDAA thing fires me up like no other and when durango kid wrote about a judge raymond lohier however its spelled really lighted me up.

          • Be informed says:

            @ clint hospo and don’t tread. I have 85 kb worth of information about the past 39 years of polar earthquake activity as it relates to big earthquakes coming. It is a lot of information adn I don’t want to send it in the comment section and jam it up with other people’s comments. It does show that polar earthquakes lead to big earthquakes around the world. If you are interested in seeing it I did send it to Mac, and maybe Mac could send it to you directly. I take the comment section as something that should be taken into consideration of others, and unless Mac says it is okay to send I don’t think it is right to do.

            The plates have not moved that much in 39 years, slow movement of continental masses, so therefore the patterns still exist now as in 1973. On top of charting earthquakes on a globe, this information helps to get an idea of where to look for future activity.

            Don’t tread, if Edgar Cayce was right, I would really being looking at the Caribbean area as some people have thought that Atlantis sunk here. The Bermuda Triangle is also slightly north of the plate also.

            By the way clint, I don’t think your writing skills are bad at all, you present your ideas nicely. The mere fact you write so much on this site will only help to improve anything you feel you need to. Practice just like going out to shoot, will sharpen your skills at anything you do.

      • DPS says:

        copperhead,

        While I do agree with you on most of your points and we are guilty and do need to share the blame, We have all sat back and let these evil people destroy not only our lifes and worst yet the future of our children and our grandchildren. I gotta a gut feeling that God will be sitting this one out for awhile. My reasoning for this is simple, take a look around you every where you go and what do you see??? I see people that do not believe in God, the vast majority of these people are evil, there is no compassion for fellow men, women and children just hate. The sad part to it is, even when you do try and help somebody they end up trying to take advantage of you.. I still have a little hope but it is going by the roadside very fast. In the end we are are alone and we shall all be held accountable.

        Bless you Sir,

        DPS

      • blkthorn says:

        You r not seaching the bible ot jews r not GODS chosen ones no more.
        And when he sawa fig tree in the way, he cameto it, and foundnothing thereon , but leaves only, and said unto it, Let nofruit growon thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away .

        Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

        He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon , and found none.

        Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:

        Jeremiah 8:13 KJV

        I will surely consume them, saith the LORD: there shall be no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the fig tree, and the leaf shall fade ; and the things that I have given them shall pass away from them.

        As you can see there is no fruit only leaves meaning that they are Spirituality dead just as the churches have become dead.

    6. QuantumBubbler says:

      Show God you appreciate the Life He gave.

      Prepare and Live!

      Good luck my friends!

      (It is happening. We can only hope the results of this push for chaos will be a flop like OWS.)

    7. blackriflewarrior says:

      I wonder what this will do for precious metals. I feel like the time I got in a wreck when I was a kid…had the brake pedal jammed all the way to the floor and that car just kept skidding down that hill on that ice no matter how hard I smashed that brake and puckered my O-ring.

      • Bill says:

        Funny! Good word picture :-)

      • CuzzinJim says:

        I think that .22lr will be a good currency. Most people have them and they will be more valuable than gold. I can’t eat gold, it won’t put shelter over my head, I can’t drive it, but a few small caliber bullets may go a long way in the barter system. I have decent mechanical skills, so that may go a long way too. I am a .mil type and I’m here to tell you, the picture is not pretty, and I don’t think whoever gets elected is going to be able to turn this train wreck around. Yeah dude, the pedal is mashed to the floor and we’re out of brake fluid. It is one of the worst things ever, but I think reality when it sets in, chaos is coming.

        • The Old Coach says:

          For my part I’m not tradin’ off anything that the recipient might turn against me, unless the recipient is a family member whom I trust. And in that case, they won’t need any of my ammo – they’ll have plenty of their own.

    8. I trust the fed says:

      I have full faith in our elected officials. They will guide us through these difficult times. We must all work together.

      We have nothing to fear.

      Even though I work for a large corporation and a watch them off shore more and more work and hire temp workers I know I am safe.

      I know the baby boomers running the world will save us. I heard all their messages in the 60′s about love and peace..surely the didn’t sell us out…..

    9. RICH99 says:

      Jeff berwick is giving it 5 years !

    10. Zoltanne says:

      Once the USD broke through the 200-day MA a few weeks ago, PMs have steadily climbed. Get ‘em before they’re too pricey.
      Or buy more food.

    11. JRS says:

      I took SHTFplan’s advice several years ago and bought supplies at a lower price to use when things got bad.I guess things have gotten “bad” as I find myself having to replace those items at todays inflated prices.lol. Hang the bankers.

      • buzzard says:

        Hang the bankers! Wait a minute. It was the politicians who allowed the bankers to do it! Wait a minute. It was the lawyers who wrote all the laws to allow the politicians to do it! Wait a minute. It was the judges who said the laws were good! Wait a minute. The whole system is corrupt, hang em all before it gets worse.

    12. Less important to know exactly when it’ll collapse, as much as fully grasping that it’s now inevitable and will likely be so bad that most then would give their right arm to turn back the clock even just one week to have better positioned themselves and their families.

      It’ll be glaringly obvious then how easily they could have made a huge difference in their current dire straights.

      The biggest burning regrets will be suffered by those of us that knew better, but still failed to do all that we could have.

      - Shane

      • Absolutely spot on. Prepare expeditiously. If you think you have enough…get more!

      • That is so true I know a few people that know they need to prepare but are not doing it. they say after vacation or always after something. I think it will really be hard on them because they knew they needed to but just didn’t for one reason or another.

        • HalfKin says:

          Okay, so you convinced me, I will sterilize and rinse the barrels I bought for water strorage this weekend finally.

          They have spickets and pumps and the bung wrench, got on line cheap, off craigs list. They used to be rain barrels. I original wanted to set them up for rain catchment but might just store water in them for now. My concern is freezing in the winter. It gets below 32 here, but rises in the day usually, sometimes stays around 20 for a week or two.
          If I leave a quarter of them empty and tuck them in tight in the sheltered corner of my home outside, beside the above ground, outdoor insulated hot water tank this house has, (that does not freeze,)Do you think I have a chance of them even being useful in the winter?

          • John W. says:

            At 32 below zero? Only if you leave them one third empty. Why not put them in an empty room?

          • Zoltanne says:

            It often goes below freezing here and we’ve never had a problem w/ any filled rain barrel or our livestock tank. We’re in Zone 6, btw.

            We keep the 55 gallon barrels full. Spigots at the base must be insulated for protection. An outdoor insulated hot water tank will add some radiant heat to your set-up but I don’t believe it would be more than a few degrees. Remember a hot water tank will also be accepting the chill from the colder water and will cycle more.

            Our entire rain cachement system can be used during Winter but we don’t need to. Not yet anyway. We remove our pumps on the barrel system during the winter and they sit idle. Our large livestock tank is over 1000 gallons and it stays full most of the year (unless we use it during a dry spell). Due to the size, we’re unable to remove that spigot at the base so it’s insulated, too. So far, we’ve not had any problems with frozen conditions.

          • HalfKin says:

            @Zoltanne – Thanks for the water info, I looked up a zone map and I beleive I am in a more temperate area than even you. Zone 9 it looks to be. I think with a little protection I should be fine. Won’t know if I don’t try and seeing how they were so inexpensive I suppose I could take the risk. Thanks again.
            and to John – no not 32 below frezzing, just 32 at freezing and a bit below that. I do know that my water bottles freeze in the winter when left in my car. And all my rooms are full at present – no empty rooms…

        • Mike says:

          MOST folks in my circle just think I’m fliping nuts to be preparing, spending my resources on silly things like ammo, food, water, solar stuff etc… even some family. the facts are right there but they choice not to listen. GOD HELP THEM…. I have put together tabed books with info in many areas, built wood stoves, backup power, water filtration. YES I CAN SEE that this looks way out there… But it is crashing. survival is not a question…. out kids need us ready and strong.

        • jayjay says:

          I’m a Christian, on here every day reading…but, F ‘em, Rancher’s wife.
          Seriously, when you do NOT put your family, heck, your children first…plain and simple..F ‘em!!

          • I totally agree, my family is always first, If I have enough I will feed there kids but sorry to say my kids come first. There kids are the innocent ones, the parents knew and did nothing. My family comes first but I will help the others kids if I can.

        • Tim says:

          Maybe you should take one, and quit telling people how to run their lives,….just a thought !

      • kevin says:

        Hell is truth, seen too late!

    13. Barn Cat says:

      The Fed declared war on the dollar. It’s bad enough that they’re monetizing the debt and creating money for the big banks to buy Treasuries. Now with buying mortgage backed securities they’re telling the world that they’re destroying the dollar. It’s only a matter of time before panic selling of the dollar begins. We don’t have years or months until the collapse. We now have weeks.

      • Mr. Blutarsky says:

        We have at least a couple of months. O-idiot is going to continue to stick his finger in the dam until after election.

        If he wins, we will end up with Dictator obama when all hell breaks loose, we’ll never get that loser our of office (or a remote possibility is we’ll get his wife – gag).

        If he loses, he’ll blame everything on Romney and all hell will still break loose.

    14. Stan522 says:

      Buy precious metals….. gold, silver and lead!

    15. Imagine says:

      On behalf of Bob Chapman – Calling the break-through bottom at 71.18:

      I do miss Bob…

      • RICH99 says:

        He was completely wrong so why would you post this video ???

        • ScoutMotto says:

          Hey Rich.

          Didn’t you say you were “done with the doom club?”

        • Good Grief says:

          This was recorded in 2009. BOB WAS THE BEST!!!!! He helped many people. He passed away in June this year.

        • RICH99 says:

          so the negative ratings must mean i am wrong by saying bob was wrong ……is that what you fools are saying……he clearly was wrong…..way wrong ……like i have always said…….DOOMTARDS……you cant even admit when someone was way wrong

          • DPS says:

            Rich99,

            Don’t be so hard on yourself, the negative ratings just mean that most find you to be a asshole. Keep up the good work..

            DPS

          • GrayFoxGreen says:

            Greetings Everyone!
            RICH99:
            I think that’s it’s O.K. to say “everyone here is wrong”….
            BUT,not more than once.Otherwise you become a pedantic boor.
            As for the State of Israel,they’re getting to be as blood guilty as those who asked for Jesus Christ to be impaled(the worst form of punishment in Roman times).Not that those like the followers of the “false prophet” are any less guilty,just the Jews today resemble their forefathers of Jeremiah the prophet time.If you read that,you’ll see what God allowed to happen back then.
            The prophecies recorded in Revelations are coming to pass.As I watch the news I wonder what event would take place to cause people to “throw their gold and Silver into the street”.The Book is written as one of symbolism.So time will tell.At least it says at Rev. 21:3&4 that things will be better for those(Jews and non-Jews whom at deemed worthy of God’s mercy)who are allowed to survive.Of course a certain amount of effort is expected(prepping being one of those) to qualify entrance.But even DEATH won’t be a hindrance,as Jesus Christ guarantees Resurrection back to life to those putting Faith in his sacrifice.So I say let the “TPTB” and the “UBER-RICH” have their moment.It will be a short one at worst.AND THEY WON’T BE AROUND to “enjoy” their fruits of their evil.
            All we can to is warn them(Bible says if a evil man repents and turns away from his wicked course he too can be saved from death)and prep to care for our loved ones.God watches everything these folks do and is taking notes….
            Best to All
            hope you and yours have a place to be warm this winter and food set by
            LTR,
            GFG

          • John W. says:

            Yeah but doom may be buying into you. We shall see, hopefully yours will be the correct point of view.

          • John W. says:

            How can he be wrong if the game is still in progress? Personally I hope you are right.

    16. Mr. Blutarsky says:

      Better be stocking up on seeds, food, ammo, weapons, PM’s and water. It’s your only hope.

    17. Unreconstructed Southron says:

      The Gold Train is about to leave the station. All aboard who’s goin’ aboard.

    18. can't believe it says:

      this video is older than dirt,

    19. ScoutMotto says:

      Looks like we are running out of tomorrows. Between this and the middle east heating up, something’s gonna give soon.

      Time to get a few more #10 cans and more of the “third” precious metal.

      Keep on a-preppin’.

    20. David says:

      So this is actually happening in 3-4 weeks? What if it doesn’t? I like this site and it would lose considerable credibility if its prediction was wrong.

      • RICH99 says:

        Nothings gonna happen in 3-4 weeks ….GUARANTEED !!!! Even though I WILL be correct , I will still get negative ratings which should be telling in itself !!!

        • Rich,
          I don’t think you’re getting thumbs down for WHAT you say as much as for the WAY in which you say it.

          There’s a lot to be said for disagreement. We all learn from the banter and discussion on this site even when we don’t all agree, but your tone is harsh and disrespectful and nobody likes that.

          You might have more impact with others if you’d mitigate the sharp-tongued arrogance. As it is, your comments aren’t getting read by very many because all the negative ratings put you into Mac’s doghouse. You’ll have a bigger audience if you tone things down a bit. You can always tell the truth as you see it, but more kindly, man. More kindly. What you sow, you reap.

      • NWPrepper says:

        What you really need to worry about is what if it DOES happen in 3-4 weeks? are you ready?
        No credibility will be lost for those on this site and others…we are all playing the exact same educated guessing game. I’m happy to be awake and have warning of ANY kind…and if it takes another year to fall – than I have that much more time to be ready.

        • RICH99 says:

          What if it takes 30 years ……will you really care at that point…..unless your 20 now ?

        • David says:

          Credibility will be lost because it is passing off statements as fact. If it happens in 3-4 weeks, I won’t be any more ready than I am now. I don’t want to live my life day by day in a fit of paranoia. What do you think about that idiot who predicted twice last year that the rapture was coming and it never did?

      • Gregory the watcher says:

        @ David….it has already gone down, the mad scramble began awhile back as to how to minimize the damage of holding a bunch of “no value paper that has nothing to back it.”.The grumblings behind the closed door gets louder. ” we will get our money one way or the other”. Thanks uncle Ben, et Al for your hocus pocus economics. I exhort everyone to get your financials in order. With Godspeed. pray, prep, and stay aware.

        • David says:

          I am not debating whether it will happen eventually. I am debating that it will happen in 3-4 weeks. What happens when people who read this article expect it to happen as stated in 3-4 weeks and 3-4 weeks comes around and it DOES NOT happen. That will cause a lot of people to feel that this site and the idea of prepping is hocus pocus. In that event they will stop prepping and consider the entire idea ridiculous. If that date comes around and it does not happen, that just helps to weaken the already small awareness movement that we have all become apart of.

      • ScoutMotto says:

        David, whether it actually happens in 3-4 weeks, I don’t know. I’m thinking likely it won’t, but since we don’t know for sure, I’d say a few more #10 cans is not a bad idea.

      • Mississippi Farmer says:

        I agree David. I am giong to keep this post for at least six weeks, just to see how Mac, Alex, Barak,Gerald,.. and a host of other DOOMERS react to this
        specific report which has no factual proof what so ever. On the other hand if they are right, I’ll stand corrected. It’s easy for a person to sit at a computer all day and spew GLOOM to the public. If’n you want to impress me,…STOP BEING THE SNAKE OIL CHARMER AND BRING FACTS TO THE TABLE !

    21. old school says:

      Does anyone in here know what was signed last Thursday means???This is what i`m being told thru one grape vine,,,

      HR347

    22. Satori says:

      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/09/2-u-s-supreme-court-justices-and-numerous-other-top-government-officials-warn-of-dictatorship.html

      2 U.S. Supreme Court Justices – And Numerous Other Top Government Officials – Warn of Dictatorship

      red flags red flags red flags red flags red flags

    23. GunSmoke says:

      Tick tock. Glad I decided to put a rain collection system in place this week as a third backup plan for water. Keep preppin my friends and cross the finish line on those projects. I honestly think we have a few more months myself, but I’m preparing as if something were to hit in the next couple of weeks. You never know, but something just doesn’t feel right. This “feeling” is on top of those things that already didn’t feel right!

    24. defcon1 says:

      world ready 2 explode around us and my wife still gives me grief about prepping. this sux

    25. Satori says:

      off topic
      but looks worthwhile
      I just ordered a copy

      http://www.rc-publishing.com/index.html

      NUMEROUS methods of do it yourself alternative lighting
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      be sure and check out the table of contents

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    26. Indio says:

      I was born in 1971. The year they took away the Gold standard. This was the foundation for our dollar. Before then our money had value. Growing up as a youngster and as a young adult I did everything that I was told to do that was right for me and for society in general. I went to school and learned a trade, I paid taxes a and I never got myself in trouble. About ten years ago, my eyes began to open to what was happening all around me. Now I am 41 and I have nothing to show for it. Everything has been taken away, the people that I love are in costant pain and indebted and they are not the only ones, people all around me are angry, they are bothered by this and they don’t realise why they are bothered. I know why people drive fast and aggressive, it’s because subconsciously they know that they are getting shafted by someone or something, but they don’t know how to put it in words or struggle with who to blame. At work I see tall buildings, inside these buildings they are only 25% occupied, when just 5 years ago they were at full capacity, all of these businesses that shut down and dissapeared. I’ve begun to see goups of young people gathered on street corners.

      • Standing by in AZ says:

        I’m your age also Indio. I feel our age group is really going to get the shaft. We have paid into the fraudulent system all our lives and will have nothing to show for it. It’s sad most people are asleep at the wheel and have no idea we are about to drive off into the fiscal grand canyon. I think Alex Jones might be right when he says, ” TV’s are dumbing people down, and they are putting stuff in the water etc.” Because I can think of no other reason for the sheep’s apathy. If you bring up the approaching financial armageddon they look at you like your mentally ill. It’s nice to see the people on this sight get it.

        • don't tread says:

          Sorry to be the bearer of good news, AZ and Indio. You won’t have to worry about “getting the shaft” cause we aren’t gonna last that long.

          Just make sure you have your heart right with the Man, and keep enough supplies to make it through the winter. Stock up on some seeds and plan to be where you can garden come spring.

          If you are sure where you are going when you die, then it really doesn’t matter when or how. Just know there is a better day coming soon and it won’t be in a flesh body or a f888′d up world.

        • HalfKin says:

          The Dumbing Down of America is planned and IS working.
          Aspartame,High Fructose Corn Syrup, GMO’s,Flouride in the water, Poisonous metals from the skys, pesticides, arsenic in rice, leaking nuclear powerplants on a daily basis, vacinations, AND the top of the list – Frank Zappa said it best:

          I am gross and perverted
          I’m obsessed n deranged
          I have existed for years
          But very little has changed
          I am the tool of the government
          And industry too
          For I am destined to rule
          And regulate you
          I may be vile and pernicious
          But you can’t look away
          I make you think I’m delicious
          With the stuff that I say
          I am the best you can get
          Have you guessed me yet?
          I am the slime oozin out
          From your TV set
          You will obey me while I lead you
          And eat the garbage that I feed you
          Until the day that we don’t need you
          Don’t got for help…no one will heed you
          Your mind is totally controlled
          It has been stuffed into my mold
          And you will do as you are told
          Until the rights to you are sold
          That’s right, folks..
          Don’t touch that dial
          Well, I am the slime from your video
          Oozin along on your livinroom floor
          I am the slime from your video
          Cant stop the slime, people, look it me go

      • 762x51 says:

        Interesting comparison. I’m much older than you, born in the 1950′s and people my age actually grew up in America not some pseudo-variant of it like the one you saw. As a young man, I was taught to kill Communists, not vote for them and old habits die hard.

        We know what America is really like and it bears NO resemblance to the country you live in now. Though I physically occupy space in what was once that nation, it is no more. Accordingly, I have adopted the following doctrine to live by.

        1. I will not obey the liberal leftist laws;
        2. I will not fund the liberal leftist agendas;
        3. I will not recognize their presumed authority over me;
        4. I will not submit to their totalitarian rule;
        5. I will oppose them even if it results in my death.

        For centuries, free Americans have fought and died to preserve freedom for my generation, can I do less for the next generation? Remember freedom is only one generation away from extinction at any given time. It is not automatically passed to the next generation but must be earned by each succeeding generation. I doubt the majority of my generation has the courage to see this through but that does relieve me of the responsibility to my progeny. Duty and honor outweigh safety and comfort.

        Clean up America, kill a Communist!

    27. Being awake sometimes is no fun and feels like a lonely burden. Example is this email exchange with sister in law.

      Email from me:
      “See why voting does NOT matter”
      http://patdollard.com/2012/09/can-the-election-be-rigged/

      SIS:
      You either believe God is sovereign in all things or you don’t. I believe that God is sovereign & the next president is His choice. Do me a favor & quit sending Eeyorish emails about how voting doesn’t matter. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do NOTHING.

      ME:
      And choosing the lesser of two evils is evil in and of itself and is a lie from Satan. Understanding evil and the many decptive lies so many sheeple believe in today does not make ones belief in the sovereignty of God come into question.
      Sorry if my emails bother you and your beliefs….I actually had no idea these were going to you….thought this was just ***** email.
      Out of curisoity….have you even looked into any of this or just blindly written it off. The factual info out there on the voting machines is indisputable and easy to find. So voting in a fraudulent system and choosing the lesser of two evils is doing SOMETHING??

      “your not choosing the lessor of two evils, but the evil of two lessors”

      There is no answer for us in the voting booth, we are long past a political solution for those still stuck in the right/left paradigm; meaning anyone still thinking one side is actually better than the other. IOW, even if Romney would get into office………Nothing of real significance will change….only the method of the madness and the route to destruction.

      “The best slave is one who thinks he is free with the illusion of choice”

      SIS:
      I do read your emails & that is why I am now asking you to remove me from your list. I have said nothing for a long time. It is not my intention to argue with you. However, for too long you have sent emails that have nothing to do with God. Oh, there is plenty of “GOD” in the emails, but His truth is not in the emails you send. God is sovereign, His will will be done. I don’t see this coming through in anything you send. I also don’t see the love of Jesus for people coming through in anything you send either. I see a lot of anger. The manner in which you have decided to conduct yourself over the last few years is not attracting people to Christ & and I fear the opposite might be true. As Christians, our only goal is to preach the good news of the gospel & Jesus’ return. I do not see this message coming through in any of your emails. I see a lot of paranoia and giving people & satan way too much power/credit. Your emails are 100% negative… always complaining about this or that, why the modern church has it so wrong, why voting doesn’t matter, etc. The list is endless. When was the last time you sought to be an encourager? All Christians are in a battle against evil. We need to encourage each other, not tear each other down.

      No need to respond to this email. I really am not interested in battling you. I just need you to stop sending the emails.
      Thanks

      ME:
      God is sovereign, that doesn’t nullify man’s free will. And I see most of my emails as in fact encouraging, provoking to find truth. The only thing I want and try to tear down are the lies and deception that runs rampant in the world today….ESPECIALLY in America and even more so in our pagan Christianity churches. I see it as trying to wake people up that I care about, which is encouraging. Angry? You darn right I am angry, have many reasons to be….I’ll leave it at that cause it is clear that you want to remain and I will honor your request and stop sending emails. However one last thing, I think you have a spirit of religiousness (not that I don’t have my own problems and struggles) and I find it unnerving, disgusting and sad that this is not the first time you have stepped in and spoke on my brother’s (your husband) behalf. First was a while back when you tried to ridiculously imply that I was giving up the only true brother I have because of my disdain for out evil leaders in the dept. of defense (oximoron) aka pentagon / military industrial complex (Dwight called it perfectly before leaving office) and now speaking on his behalf and telling me to stop emailing what I always thought was his email address.

      You win!!!

      P.S. I prayed on the drive home, asking that God would help me to show the love that IS IN FACT in this big heart of mine, cause I know it is there, but also know it doesn’t come across very well to people. And to help us both see truth wherever one or both of us might be missing it in the days in which we are living. Also the quote about good men doing nothing that you and ***** seem to like so well (I do too) is going to come into play in his life with him being in the position he is in and soon in a bigger way then could of ever been imagined….I pray he is filled with truth, discernment and the balls of King David on that day.

      • Satori says:

        breaking through the normalcy bias and the cognitive dissonance isn’t easy
        and its not always possible
        people have literally invested their entire lives in “the system”
        its ALL they know
        they can’t even conceive that it could be any different

        and “faith” in God can be a huge help or a huge disability
        it just depends on what kind of “faith” you have

        some people just won’t take the red pill no matter what
        it causes intense emotional distress and pain
        and people avoid pain at all costs
        after all
        how could everything they have believed and been taught their entire lives be a lie ?????

        but don’t give up
        some people do wake up
        after all
        most on this site have done so
        right?
        I have a new prepper buddy at work now
        he told me the other day
        “something bad is coming,I don’t know what
        but its coming”

        and he is now asking all kinds of questions about food storage,water filtration,weapons etc etc

        one by one…….

      • Satori says:

        The Burden of Truth and Knowledge

        excellent article
        well worth a read

        http://www.activistpost.com/2012/09/the-burden-of-truth-and-knowledge.html

        sometimes I REALLY wanta take that blue pill again !

      • jayjay says:

        BJ..I hope she’s prepping and if not, share this??
        I Timothy 5:8….Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever

        • nope, not prepping and you can’t show her anything in His word….she already knows it all and is married to a 22 year vet (col.) programming and brainwashing thickest I ever seen

          • SmokyMtnLady says:

            BJ, my sister and bro in law stopped talking to me months ago, because “All you EVER want to talk about is prepping and end of the world stuff”!
            THIS from someone who was prepping, until my loser bro in law decided that normalcy bias is a more comfortable way for him to live his life…my sister got tired of fighting him…he has his AR-15 and other “toys” so he’s content! And yes, they threw out the “God is in control”stuff also….DUH, like I don’t already know that!
            But my husband and I choose to follow the examples of Noah and Joseph and also Mary and Joseph…God told them to leave, they left! I haven’t ever read where Joseph said ” But Lord, have you SEEN Mary? She’s expecting a child, YOUR child, we can’t leave now…You’re a sovereign God, you’ll take care of us”! No, Joseph obeyed and took Mary and left!
            You tried your best, just let it go now…I have, makes me sad too…but what can you do?

      • Walt Kowalski says:

        @BJ…..

        When your sis shows up at your door, begging you to provide her food and shelter…..remind her that it is evidently God’s sovereign will that she not survive the mess that she did not prepare for adequately.

        If you want to now…..point her to the account of Joseph and the vision that Pharaoh had regarding the coming years of plenty and famine, and how Joseph didn’t sit with his head up his backside chanting, “It’s God’s will. It’s God’s will. Just sit and wait for God to provide.”…But instead, laid out a plan to Pharaoh for storing grain in preparation for the lean days to come.

        Joseph was the ultimate “prepper”.

        As was Noah.

        Remember…It wasn’t raining when Noah built the ark.

      • Highspeedloafer says:

        BJ, I don’t know you but I see the love. Hang in there.

      • don't tread says:

        Really good responses to BJ’s sis-n-law blindness.

        There are two types of Christians. Those that are awake and are willing to accept truth, no matter how much it hurts; and those that are so caught up in their worldly/daily lives they don’t want the truth. The latter bunch just want their warm and fuzzy christianity, like we must love everybody and accept the queers cause they really can’t help the way they are. Wrong! God hates homosexuality and the “true” christians are supposed to stand with God and not political correctness.

        BJ, I know you mean well, but you have planted the seed and it is now up to her. I have had to shake the dust off my feet and move forward many times since I realized the truth. Most members of my own family have abandoned me because they can’t handle the truth. As long as God knows I am there for them, or anyone wanting to sincerely get educated, I’ll be the first in line to help. But, if they haven’t used the brain God gave them and SHTF while they have only have two weeks worth of provisions; don’t come expecting to mooch off our years of labor/expense and sacrifices. Everyone has to sail their own ship.

    28. Indio says:

      Also I have noticed in the early morning hours while driving to work that more women are out on the street corner selling their wares. I see that the local news and the alphabet news programs are giving run around news, news that means nothing to me and you and yet it occupys prime time TV. I’ve noticed that the diners and the restaurants that I used to go to are mostly inhabited only by local government employees. Lot’s of police cars in the parking lot and police eating inside. Before it used to be family’s and regular people that had jobs at that time. I’ve noticed when I am at the grocery store up to at least five people in front of me buying food with food stamps and they were young women capable of working for it.

    29. VRF says:

      Im thinking there is more collapsing, than just the dollar

    30. Hi, New post, long time observer. I’ve listened to ya’ll for dam near 3 years; pulled out about everything I had in the market. Today my buddies are bragging they’ve gained about half of what they lost in 08. I’m happy for them.
      I bought gold at 1110/oz. in late 2009 and have it in my safe….

    31. jayjay says:

      Again???
      US Totalitarianism Loses Major Battle As Judge Permanently Blocks NDAA’s Military Detention Provision

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/us-totalitarianism-loses-major-battle-judge-permanently-blocks-ndaas-military-detention-provisi

    32. Mondobeyondo says:

      Oh boy. Not good, not good.

    33. Mondobeyondo says:

      @David, and everyone else:
      It would be foolish to place a specific timetable to what’s gonna go down. It could be anytime from September 19th, 2012, to 2013, 2014, 2015…
      The longer it doesn’t happen, the more time is left to prepare.

    34. ZombieDawg says:

      Latest GEAB #67 out – MUST read N-O-W !

      http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-67-is-available-Global-systemic-crisis-October-2012-The-global-economy-sucked-into-a-black-hole-and-world_a12189.html

      key extract:
      For these reasons, LEAP/E2020 maintains its June 2012 Red Alert and estimates that, by the end of October 2012, the global economy will be sucked into a black hole against a backdrop of world geopolitics heated white-hot. Suffice it to say that the coming weeks will, according to our team, carry the planet away in a hurricane of unprecedented crises and conflicts.

      • Gregory the watcher says:

        So Zdog,, roughly translated what this says is that a good percentage of the rest of the world is FED up with the fraud, the corruption, the mismanagement and the lies. “Hocus Pocus Economics” has to be dealt with or will take everyone under. Looks like they are severing ties.”oh what a tangle Web we weave”.

      • RICH99 says:

        Yea like that’s really gonna happen……too many times down this road

      • 762x51 says:

        Timing is always the most difficult part of prep. It is clear that the collapse is going to happen there is no longer any way to avoid it. When it will happen is another matter entirely. I agree that the next 120 days are the most likely time in our history, at least since 1861 for a civil war to start here, but there can be no sure way to predict its beginning. I say two years tops with six months being most likely but again I have no way to know for sure. There are simply too many variables. Pay attention to everything you can, use your gut and focus your preps on what can be accomplished within that timeline. A five year plan will be as effective as buying lotto tickets and hoping to buy everything at once out of your winnings.

    35. kynase says:

      Just saw the article that a college dorm was evacuated due to bomb threat (Arkansas State. Something very odd is going on. There are false flags left and right…before long it will be challenging to differentiate the flags.

    36. Sunshine says:

      I, for one, would like to see postings from all of you stating the signs you see around you indicating collapse. This weekend, a young, well-dressed woman, asked me for change in the parking lot of Lowe’s–supposedly for gas. She looked anguished. Also, my daughter reports that business is WAY down at the restaurant she works for. Even on their normally busy weekends. Some family members have given up their second vehicles lately because money is just too tight and they need some relief. The increased costs on food and fuel are squeezing them too much. Also, have seen a rash of pharmacy burlaries in our area with pain pills being stolen.

      • jayjay says:

        I’ll be first…while stocking on more supplies and replacing a few, we splurged and went for lunch at Logan’s Roadhouse.
        At midday, on a Saturday, there were 3 other tables filled.
        Unbelivevable.

      • PissedOffAmerican says:

        Live in East Tennessee-noticed huge reduction in the amount of food people buy at the grocery store; increase in foreclosures, evictions, pharmacy robberies, but I think those aer the “pillbillies”…lol. No one traveling anywhere due to lack of gas money. Increase in order of protection cases, as well.

    37. Oldboy says:

      “…which then leads to a shift of capital to US Treasury bonds, ironically strengthening the dollar.”

      I disagree. The next bubble to pop are treasuries, guilts and other sovereign debts that have been artificially shielded from market pricing by being purchased en masse by central banks and a coerced financial system.

      The Fed bought 61% of US debt last year. The ECB is buying tons of Euro debt. The ECB created incentives for Euro banks to buy state debt in the “carry trade” last year. All bought at historically low rates.

      When inflation hits, the market will force those rates higher causing bonds and debts issued at the lower rates to collapse in value. If the banks and central banks have to write that loss down, they collapse. If the rates go up too high, the governments collapse a la Greece. The only way to keep rates down, would be continued buying by the central banks (QE, printing money), causing inflation to roar out of control.

    38. Dyna Chrome says:

      From Bloomberg:

      http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-18/deposit-flight-from-europe-banks-eroding-common-currency.html

      “A total of 326 billion euros ($425 billion) was pulled from banks in Spain, Portugal, Ireland and Greece in the 12 months ended July 31, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The plight of Irish and Greek lenders, which were bleeding cash in 2010, spread to Spain and Portugal last year. “

    39. Mondobeyondo says:

      Prepare for a massive paradigm shift.

      The U.S. as we know it now (and the cost of living many of us, ahem, enjoy) will be but a distant memory in a few years. Enjoy it while you still can.

    40. upvice says:

      “Dollar Index Headed for Rapid Collapse” Over Next 3 to 4 Weeks

      To the author of this article.
      To know the dollar is going to be collapse or not, it is very easy to find out. How? Just put the money where your mouth is, and let the market tell you whether that you are right or wrong. Otherwise, you just wrote an article but no action behind your loud mouth.

      Anyone, who is on the author’s side, you need to do the same as the above paragraph.

    41. David says:

      Hey everyone it has been two weeks. On the 9th of October it will be 3 weeks. I see nothing yet to indicate a collapse.

    42. possee says:

      The dollar index today Oct 10 2012

      up 80.15

      possee

     
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