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    Carrington Class: “The World Escaped an EMP Catastrophe”

    Mac Slavo
    August 1st, 2013
    SHTFplan.com
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    According to researchers at EMPact America, an organization dedicated to studying and preparing for the possibility of large-scale electro magnetic pulse threats that can destroy our modern day electrical infrastructure, the earth came dangerously close to a serious destabilization event. A couple of weeks ago the sun emitted a massive CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) that, had it been earth-directed, would likely have wiped out critical portions of the world’s power grid and sent developed nations back to the stone age within a matter of seconds.

    ‘The world escaped an EMP catastrophe,’ Henry Cooper, who now heads High Frontier, a group pushing for missile defence, told Washington Secrets.

    ‘There had been a near miss about two weeks ago, a Carrington-class coronal mass ejection crossed the orbit of the Earth and basically just missed us,’ added Peter Vincent Pry, who served on the Congressional EMP Threat Commission.

    ‘Basically this is a Russian roulette thing,’ he said. ‘We narrowly escape from a Carrington-class disaster.’

    Washington Examiner

    It was a “Carrington-Class” event, named after the 1859 incident that left telegraphs around the world inoperable and reportedly even lit some of the equipment on fire because of the electric surge.

    Solar flares are measured in classes, and though “Carrington” is not an official classification on the scale, it refers to a solar emission so powerful that it would send Aurora Borealis, or Northern Lights as they are often called, as far down as the equator (as was the case with the 1859 event). This means that the size of the solar flare would be massive, and the charged particles contained within it would be widespread, likely affecting every non-shielded electronic device on the planet.

    The original Carrington event is estimated to have been larger than an X10 Class flare – a super solar flare. The measurements work similar to the earthquake Richter scale, where the next level up is 10 times more powerful than the one before it. An X1 flare, which is the lowest level of the X flares, is capable of disrupting electronic devices like satellites and even mobile communications. And X2 flare, would be ten times as powerful as the X1.

    A Carrington Event flare would exceed X10 Class, making it thousands of times more powerful than an X1, with the capability of disrupting, or even rendering inoperable, everything from electric grid transformers and water utility plants, to cell phones and vehicles.

    Though such powerful flares as the one that almost hit earth two weeks ago are rare, they happen more often than you may think. In November of 2003 an X28 Class solar flare – the largest ever recorded – narrowly missed earth.

    Were such a powerful electro magentic pulse to hit hit the earth and wipe out critical infrastructure elements like utilities, satellite positioning systems and transportation, civilization as we know it would devolve into chaos within a matter of hours. Estimates suggest that in such a scenario 90% of America’s population would perish within one year’s time due to lack of food, clean water, medicine and other critical services currently made possible by on-demand electrical infrastructure.

    Former Congressman Roscoe Bartlett has warned that every American should develop an emergency plan for exactly such a scenario:

    “We don’t really think of those today, because it’s so convenient to go to the supermarket,” he cautions. “But you know, you’re planning because the supermarket may not always be there.”

    The electrical grid could fail tomorrow, he frequently warns. Food would disappear from the shelves. Water would no longer flow from the pipes. Money might become worthless. People could turn on each other, and millions would die.

    The grid could be crippled at least four different ways, Bartlett says: terrorist assaults on power substations, a cyberattack, a massive solar storm and an electromagnetic pulse attack.

    Bartlett has for decades warned of the harm of an EMP attack — a nuclear detonation in the atmosphere that could fry computers and anything with an electric circuit — in his writings, in legislation and in late-night speeches on the House floor, though experts differ on the seriousness of the threat. Some agree the dangers are real, while others say such an attack is unlikely and the potential effects remain uncertain.

    “Whatever level you’re concentrating on, being as self-sufficient as you can, as quickly as you can, is going to be the right thing to do,” he says.

    Bartlett has suggested that those with the ability to do so should move their families out of major cities and become as self sufficient as possible:

    A solar flare or man-made EMP (in the form of a Super EMP weapon) is an outlier.

    Two weeks ago, had the sun spot that emitted the Carrington-like flare been directed just a few degrees in our direction, we’d be living in a different world today. Likewise, ten years ago, the earth took a glancing blow.

    We have come close, and one day chances are an earth directed flare will take out our modern day electrical infrastructure.

    It could happen a month from now or 10 years from now during the next solar maximum cycle. What we know is that it has happened before, and it will happen again.

    It’s not impossible to survive such an event. It starts with understanding that the threat is real and then making an effort to take steps that insulate yourself and your family as best as possible should it come to pass:

    There are a variety of civilization affecting threats that we face, so preparing for an EMP attack or solar flare will actually ready you for a whole host of other worst-case scenarios.

    If you haven’t already started, take it upon yourself to begin preparing today, because those who aren’t ready when disaster strikes will be destined to a fate of hardship and horrors.

    It’s better to be prepared a day, a month or a year early, than to be one minute too late.

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    1. Unreconstructed Southron says:

      NOW they tell us.

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      • Yeah, right!

        The Daily Sheeple regularly posts updates based on NOAA data and is usually 1 – 3 days ahead of any major solar flare hits (about the time it takes to travel to earth from the sun): http://www.thedailysheeple.com/?s=solar+flare

        Regular updates also posted to the Sheeple Facebook page

        So, the info is available, but I doubt we’d be made aware of it by mainstream media until it was just a few hours or minutes out.

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        • OutWest says:

          Mac, you’re sugar-coating the gravity of
          the situation for the timidity of the sheeple
          among us. This is no time for brevity.
          Tell it like it is: Prepare or Die!

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          • KY Mom says:

            A more down to earth situation that seems to be spreading. Everyone please take extra care with washing fresh produce before eating.

            Update – 372 cases of Cyclospora outbreak (commonly linked to fresh produce) spreads to 16 states

            Cyclospora outbreak in Florida – 7/30/13
            Now 372 cases in 16 states. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/health/os-cyclospora-outbreak-florida-20130730,0,3700034.story

            Cyclospora case count climbs to 353, outbreak’s source still unknown – 7/29/13

            “Cyclospora infections can cause diarrhea for up to two months.

            Previous cyclospora infections, known as cyclosporiasis, have been linked to fresh produce.

            The CDC said it is unclear if all the current cases are linked to the same outbreak. But the overall case count appears to be growing.”
            http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57595988/cyclospora-case-count-climbs-to-353-outbreaks-source-still-unknown/

            Stomach bug linked to produce sickens 285 people in 11 states – 7/26/13
            “The symptoms usually manifest within several days of eating the contaminated food, and include diarrhea, cramps, nausea, vomiting, body aches and fatigue.

            If not treated, the illness may last from a few days to a month or longer and patients have been known to relapse, the CDC said.”

            As a precaution, she encouraged people to thoroughly wash produce before it is eaten to minimize the chance of infection.

            The CDC also recommends that anyone with cyclosporiasis-like symptoms seek medical treatment and ask to be tested for the parasite.

            “The good news is that the infection is easily treatable with readily available antibiotics.”
            http://ca.news.yahoo.com/stomach-bug-linked-produce-sickens-285-people-11-132017385.html

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            • oUCH says:

              Hi KY Mom.. if you can locate it, get a supply of Topron.

              I purchase it in Mexico and it works WONDERS. Within 1 hour of taking it, the symptoms begin to subside. After a couple of days taking it, it’s all gone.. you be better !
              Chemical name = nifuroxazide, 400 mg.

              Seriously, this stuff works fast and with no side effects I’ve ever detected. It doesn’t constipate you; it removes or kills the stuff causing the problem and cramps.

              You can likely find it with an internet search for purchase.

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              • JayJay says:

                Ouch, I can’t find any seller of that Topron.

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                • oUCH says:

                  Looks like it has several different names.. the active ingredient is the nifuroazide.. here is a generic search site.. looks like it is available at major drug stores in the US under the name Ambatrol.. it appears it’s only 200mg and of course, since we are too stupid to self medicate, requires a prescription here.. igenericdrugs.com/gd.cgi?notran=1&s=Ambatrol&search_c=SEARCH+in+United+States

                  Add the www in front.. it’s worth finding if you can.

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                • oUCH says:

                  nifuroxazide . Sorry, left out the X in the stupidly long word. Shoulda copied and pasted it.

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                • A Christian man says:

                  Toprol XL Oral Side Effects

                  Drowsiness, dizziness, tiredness, diarrhea, and slow heartbeat may occur. Decreased sexual ability has been reported infrequently. If any of these effects persist or worsen, tell your doctor or pharmacist promptly.

                  To reduce the risk of dizziness and lightheadedness, get up slowly when rising from a sitting or lying position.

                  With some brands of this medication, an empty tablet shell may appear in your stool. This is harmless.

                  This drug may reduce blood flow to your hands and feet, causing them to feel cold. Smoking may worsen this effect. Dress warmly and avoid tobacco use.

                  Remember that your doctor has prescribed this medication because he or she has judged that the benefit to you is greater than the risk of side effects. Many people using this medication do not have serious side effects.

                  Tell your doctor immediately if any of these unlikely but serious side effects occur: very slow heartbeat, severe dizziness, fainting, blue fingers/toes, trouble breathing, new or worsening symptoms of heart failure (such as swelling ankles/feet, severe tiredness, shortness of breath, unexplained/sudden weight gain), mental/mood changes (such as confusion, mood swings, depression).

                  A very serious allergic reaction to this drug is rare. However, get medical help right away if you notice any symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, including: rash, itching/swelling (especially of the face/tongue/throat), severe dizziness, trouble breathing.

                  This is not a complete list of possible side effects. If you notice other effects not listed above, contact your doctor or pharmacist.

                  In the US -

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                • JayJay says:

                  I was having a problem with prescription part.
                  I don’t do doctors any more.
                  I have ginger tablets and ginger root, though.
                  Thanks, ouch.

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              • oUCH says:

                Christian Man : It’s ToproN Not ToproL.. with an N not an L.

                JayJay : I only assume it’s prescription here.. since damn near everything useful is.. don’t much do Dr.’s either.. you might try Northwest Medical which advertises on this site.. I’ve dealt with them.. they do as they say.
                Ginger will work for nausea.. but if it’s caused by bacteria; you either have to suffer or take something else. The active ingredient on Topron really works fast.
                Good Luck with it..

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            • Merree says:

              Most of the infections have been traced to bagged salads with a mixture of head lettuce and romaine with cabbage and carrots or radishes. The FDA has been reluctant to name any brands but officials from some areas of the Midwest reported that the salads “did not come from around here”.

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              • JustMe says:

                Good info, thank you.

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              • Merree: Since your the SHTFplan doc in
                the haus: Do you feel its safe to eat
                tuna? BTW- your input here is gratiously
                appreciated :)

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                • Merree says:

                  First of all, folks —be careful with names.

                  Topron (nifuoxazide) is an antibacterial medication that is not used in the United States. It is used in some anti diarrheal compounds in Latin America and it is used in many other countries around the world. It is similar to but not the same as Nitrofurantoin that is used here in the US.

                  Toprol (metoprolol) is used to treat high blood pressure and recurring chest pain. It changes the way nerve impulses move through the heart and can cause the heart to beat more slowly. Although this medication might be needed in certain heart conditions, I do not like it very much because it can make the heart and circulation less responsive to demands of exercise.

                  TTC,
                  I do not think tuna is safe to eat due to the mercury levels. This is sad because I love tuna. I still sneak it in sometimes but I try to do it only occasionally.

                  The tuna with the highest mercury tends to be yellowfin but most tuna producers do not label their products so there is no way of knowing what is in it.

                  Other fish with high levels of mercury are swordfish, shark, and king mackerel. These fish feed on other fish and the mercury becomes concentrated in their tissue. But note that we can also concentrate mercury in our tissues by eating lots of the smaller fish even if we don’t eat tuna. Almost all ocean fish have some mercury in their systems according to some studies.

                  The North eastern part of the United States has been shown to have mercury entering the inland wildlife population. Birds that eat fish such as loons are strongly affected.

                  There are areas where mercury has become gaseous from burning coal. The mercury is then absorbed by plants leaves. Worms and insects feed on the plant debris and then contaminate bird populations. There are studies showing high mercury levels in songbirds, high enough to reduce reproduction. Other animals like bald eagles, mountain lions and otters have also had high mercury levels.

                  If you eat a lot of fish, you can go to

                  http://www.gotmercury.org.

                  They have a calculator to tell you how much mercury you are eating in a given meal. It is eye opening!

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                • Merree says:

                  Tuna in California has tested positive for cesium-134 and cesium-37. These are contaminates from Fukushima. In one study, every Bluefin tested had some radioactivity. However, they also found that the fish could eliminate the cesium from their bodies by the muscle use needed to swim long distances.

                  The actual amount of radioactivity appears to be low. There are foods we eat every day that have higher levels of radio activity. If you want to get paranoid about radioactive food, here is the details.

                  Brazil nuts are the most radioactive food you can eat. They are about 5,600 more radioactive than any other foods, including the tuna. They contain potassium-40 and radium-226.

                  Foods with high potassium are all high in radioactivity due to the presence of potassium-40. This includes bananas and beer. Almost all food has a small amount of radioactivity, even if they are grown organically. We live on a radioactive planet with radioactive isotopes of potassium, radon, and other compounds all around us. That is why scientists talk about the level of background radiation.

                  I find it interesting that cat litter is also radioactive if it is made from clay or bentonite. These often contain isotopes of uranium, thorium, or potassium. Cat litter actually has enough radiation that it has set off radiation alerts at border checkpoints.

                  It appears that there is some radioactivity in sea food due to Fukushima but it is not the biggest concern when eating seafood. The radioactivity is actually fairly low. The big problem is levels of mercury.

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                • Washington State DSHS has a Seafood guide for pregnant women that shows seafood in 3 categories from not so safe to ok to very good. It includes chunk light water packed tuna as very good. Albacore tuna is not ok. The issue has to do with heavy metal contaminants but another issue right now ( and maybe for years to come) is radiation. Radiation should never be ingested as it remains in the tissues and can do more harm internally than externally. Studies have been done on radiation in some Pacific seafood but it is not being publicized. I have heard a variety of reasons but they all end up being about $ rather than health or safety.

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              • Shootit says:

                Another reason to grow your own. If you can.

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              • Smokey says:

                FDA says today the salad greens came from Mexico.

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            • possee says:

              KY Mom..

              Always enjoy your links and input..

              A question for you and others here (and off topic) but relevant to todays headlines..

              Given the recent prison breaks this week across the middle east releasing over a thousand Al (cia) da types in Iraq,Libya, and elsewhere..could there be a correlation with the closings of all major consulates/embassies across the middle east as announced today by the state dept?

              I smell a setup…

              Your thoughts?

              possee

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              • KY Mom says:

                possee,

                I have been searching and reading to try to find out more.

                Whatever is pending, they are trying to keep it secret.

                Stay strong! Keep praying and prepping!
                KY Mom

                State Dept: ‘Precautionary,’ but won’t detail threat…
                Drudge Report

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              • Emily says:

                I agree, I smell a set up too.
                I think it is a false flag.
                I will be watching and waiting
                this weekend.

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          • JayJay says:

            Again, if you haven’t read ‘One Second After’, it is a great window into what we will face.
            The author didn’t address nuclear power stations; wonder why??

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            • Socrates says:

              @Jay-Jay

              I have commented on here (and other sites) about the horrors that await us with our ‘clean’ nuclear energy plants. These plants have mechanical and electronic systems in place to shut down the reactors, it is called a SCRAM. Nuclear reactors both PWR and BWR have onsite diesel backup generators to provide power for a certain amount of time. The big problem with those however, are the ignition and starting systems…they all use fairly modern components which are NOT heavily shielded against EMP. That makes them useless.

              That in itself is only part of the problem. The bigger part is water flow. The onsite spent fuel pools contain used fuel rods from previous refuel cycles that are still quite ‘hot’ radioactively speaking. The pools are quite deep and require constant water and air exchange to keep water temps below 120 degrees. When you have no power to flow water, it heats up and up and up. Eventually it boils away and the rods are exposed with nothing to cool them down. This is where the dangers lie with ALL nuke plants…they are all ticking time bombs right here in our back yards. You thought Fukushima was bad? You ain’t seen nothing yet.

              More on SCRAM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scram
              More on Fuel Pools: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spent_fuel_pool

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            • scott says:

              Lights Out is even better and it’s free, just google it for the pdf.

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            • braveheart says:

              JayJay, I read “One Second After” last October. It was a very emotional read for me, especially when the guy’s daughter died. I just pray it doesn’t become real, but it still could. “Lights Out” is another plausible scenario. braveheart

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        • Dave says:

          I think we will be informed when the lights go out. The MSM won’t do a thing for us.

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        • Be informed says:

          @ Mac. Was this on the back end of the Sun? These happen sometimes. It is only a close shot if it was within 2-3 days of an Earth facing hit. Space Weather did not have any indication of this, and nothing was on the face on the Sun that I saw for the past month. Was it on the backside? I wish JustOneGuy was around to tell everyone what really happened. If this happened on the backside it just proves it can happen with the Earth facing side. By the way did you get the article I sent you about preparedness?

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          • braveheart says:

            Howdy, BI, and I’ll be looking forward to that article; I LOVE your articles. On the topic, this is only one of many things we prepare for. There’s been a tremendous amount of speculation about the true effects of an EMP incident. The US has never suffered an EMP attack before so everything is really just pure speculation. However, I’m prepping for a worst-case scenario of us being thrown back into a 19th-century, pre-industrial age type of lifestyle. Presuming the worst-case scenario does happen, the lifestyles we all have now will be gone in a heartbeat and life will never be the same for any of us again. Life will become harder in many respects, but not impossible. I believe it’s possible to survive in a post-EMP world but it will take a tremendous amount of effort to do so. Life will become a supreme bitch and will become horrific for those who have not prepared. On occasion i do refer people to 2 articles you submitted last year, “How Horrific Will It Be For The Nonprepper?” and “Be Prepared To Defend What You Have”; I may not have that 2nd title correct. Everyone on any kind of life support and the tens of thousands of people who are on commerical aircraft in our skies every day will be the first to perish. In “One Second After”, in the final chapter, 1 year after the EMP it was estimated that only 30,000,000 people were left alive out of a total of 320,000,000 when the EMP hit and that was only an estimate. In a real world scenario, the true figure could actually be less than 30,000,000. braveheart

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          • Be informed says:

            Space weather right now has a fact check on their web site right now that says that there was no Carrington type near miss. I didn’t think so because of the lack of evidence in the skies and because I have been carefully watching the Sun for just such a possible event. It is coming one day, that is for sure.

            Mac, did you get that article I sent? I have been having some bad problems with the computer recently and even though it said that it cleared I was not sure.

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            • villageidiot says:

              Spaceweather.com

              SPACE WEATHER FACT CHECK: Many readers are asking about a report in the Washington Examiner, which states that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous. The possibility of such a storm is, however, worth thinking about: A modern Carrington event would cause significant damage to our high-tech society.

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          • CWinOR says:

            @BI- I read about this one a few days ago. NO- this time it was Earth-Orbit directed. Had the Earth been father along it’s orbit (I can’t recall how many days it was off by) then it would’ve been a direct hit.

            “Missed me by THAT much!”

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          • Socrates says:

            People looking for Solar and weather news can gain a lot of insight by searching YouTube for 4 min news- He does a show in the mornings and goes into a lot of detail

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          • another Jay says:

            spaceweather said it was a hoax

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        • K. in Kansas says:

          When a solar flare happens, will the charge come back in the house and start fires?

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        • braveheart says:

          Mac, the MSM would get blindsided like everyone else. braveheart

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        • Slap Happy says:

          Mac, et.al.,

          I check out Suspicious Observers daily for space weather:

          http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ

          He does @4 minute news update daily.

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        • JustMe says:

          A lot of people will roll tier eyes, but Major Ed Dames, and his remote viewing group have viewed what they call “The Kill Shot”. It is supposed to be a CME that in his words will “turn the Earth into a rotiserie”. I got his DVD a few years ago, it is still available.

          On a side note, he stated that WW3 had “already begun, and was on a slow burn fuse”.

          http://www.learnrv.com/

          People will scoff at rv, but it is real, Major Dames has not always been right will his predictions, and his detractors rant about that, but they never give him crdeit for when he was right…

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        • Paranoid says:

          All right Mac; I have a question. You are Mr. ALL KNOWING GOV., you know a Super Flare is going to hit the earth in 72 hours. Do you tell everyone or not? You know all the power will fail, and not be back for a year or more, the phone, cars, computers, trucks, planes, etc will fail. What do you do? Announce it? Every city will panic, millions will over run for the suburbs and farms. Then have their cars fail away from home with next to nothing. Chaos will rule. Distruction will be everywhere, hungry people will loot and destroy what remains. I’d suggest you wait and see if it does hit, then Nuc the cities and hope the remaining people can rebuild. Far more people will survive that way, there will be food enough and no destruction outside the cities. What do you do?

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        • Jason says:

          There wasn’t a “Carrington class” event in the last 2 weeks. Strongest flare this year was an either an x-3 or x-4 and that was a few months or so ago.

          I check this site daily: http://spaceweather.com

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        • monkpiper says:

          It takes 8 minutes for sunlight to get from sun to earth.

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      • Red Leader says:

        CMEs and Solar Flares are two totally different events.

        A CME emits charged particles that take 20 to 40 hours to reach the earth.

        A Solar Flare emits X-Ray radiation and takes about 8 minutes to reach the earth.

        The question is, if there was a large CME, would the government give the public the 20 to 40 hours warning?

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      • Walter Graff says:

        ONLY ONE SMALL PROBLEM. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous. The possibility of such a storm is, however, worth thinking about: A modern Carrington event would cause significant damage to our high-tech society. Clearly someone wants to keep their job and create a new industry.

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        • Daniel San says:

          Agreed ! I have not seen much solar news lately either. Still waiting for the Big One !!
          All I can say is protect your equipment before its too late. Should start getting stuff to set house up for 12 volt once power goes out for good. But if they don’t get the ZNuke plants shut down, All bets are off.

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      • Road Runner says:

        READ READ READ This is the bullshit I talk about all the time…they plant these stories they made up and blow them out of proportion to see how idiots react to them…they control it all. Feel foolish well do something about it…stop believing all you read…there are thousands of trolls out there, disinfo specialists, mind shappers, propaganda specialists, mind washers.

        QUIET SUN: Many readers are asking about a recent media report, which stated that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. That report is inaccurate. Solar activity was low throughout July and remains low as August begins. Details at http://spaceweather.com.

        Do you see yet? This is JEW media at its best…it was NO accidental story given to the nutcases to re-broadcast to the idiot goys.

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      • elev8tr says:

        this story is inaccurate .do your research people.

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    2. Ordinary Average Guy says:

      Its only a matter of time really, unless something else happens first…I’ll be on the lookout

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      • Mr. Blutarsky says:

        You are right! I’m still waiting for the headline “US Citizens survive Washington DC Catastrophe”.

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      • KY Mom says:

        Interview John Kappenman – Protecting the National Power Grid

        “Mr. Kappenman’s testimony led the US House of Representatives to vote unanimously to fund his recommendations to protect the national power grid from dangerous solar storms that threaten to completely devastate our grid…and way of life.”

        Unfortunately, after the House voted to protect the power grid, they did NOTHING.

        http://www.offthegridnews.com/2010/08/13/interview-with-john-kappenman/

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        • Vicky says:

          Doing Nothing is usually a good thing concerning the House. In this case, maybe not so much. I’m looking forward to the article from Be Informed, one of the brightest lights on this site.

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      • Anonymous says:

        I’m sleep deprived so I shall delve into the land of mass paranoia for entertainment purposes.

        Step 1: military clandestinely gathers at all major power stations.

        Step 2: coordinated throwing of the off switch.

        Step 3: OMG we just got hit by a solar EMP… state of emergency!

        HEHE this is silly because… yeah it’s just silly. I’m sleep deprived like I said.

        Well now however, if we ever really did get hit by a real EMP, I’m thinkig you’re going to need a lot more than 2 weeks worth of supplies. Isn’t it estimated minimum 2 years to rebuild the infrastructure? And that’s if you got money…

        Funny, a Senator telling us to stock up. Government’s being a bit schizophrenic with its message here. I thought preppers were officially “terrists” or some such BS.

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        • JustMe says:

          Well, it will likely not be rebuilt for a very long time, such things like electrical transformers are no longer made in the USA, and require a very long lead time to purchase. Do you think China will be happy to drop evrything, and make new grid parts for us?

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          • JayJay says:

            I found this published June, 2012:
            In terms of manufacturing base in 2010, six domestic manufacturers accounted for all power transformers produced in the United States.

            U.S. Department of Energy

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            • The Old Coach says:

              However it is true that large xfmrs are made to order, and lead times are long. And capacity in place right now is in equilibrium with new construction and natural failure rate replacement demand. Wanna bet that’s 1/10 of the capacity needed to replace all the xfmrs blown by a Carrington event? And that’s just the USA. A major event will also blow the grids in China, SE Asia, India, and Europe, so there won’t be any help coming from outside our borders.

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            • JustMe says:

              I stand corrected.

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              • JayJay says:

                Justme–I seem to have heard a senator addressing the senate.
                And I’m sure he said we get transformers from another country.
                When ordered, 6 months to build.

                I was searching for the number of transformers in each state, and found this instead.
                I don’t feel any safer; we know they won’t stockpile these and if they did, how could they be transported if an EMP attack took place??
                Unless, only a section of the nation was hit??

                So many unknowns makes me crazy!!

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            • KY Mom says:

              Second Interview with John Kappenman.
              Title: Is Your Time Machine Ready? – Episode 031
              Off The Grid News

              From the text transcription

              John: It would be transformers that are exposed to the highest levels of these induced currents from a geomagnetic storm that would be the most at risk of being permanently damaged. In today’s world manufacturing marketplace, we really don’t have the ability to manufacture and replace large numbers of damaged transformers.

              WE’RE LOOKING AT, IN THE CASE OF THE U.S. ALONE, SOMTHING LIKE THAT COULD TAKE 4 TO 10 YEARS TO RECOVER from, based on the amount of transformers that we think could be manufactured and made available to us.

              And that might be a bit rosy because it assumes that somewhere a manufacturer will be unaffected by that storm and be able to begin manufacturing in a normal fashion. Under this sort of planetary event, I assume that we are probably making a rosy assumption that anybody would be able to resume any kind of normal functioning from a manufacturing standpoint.

              John: These (high voltage transformers) are probably in the neighborhood of 300 or more. That would be a significant fraction of the total large extra-high voltage transformers in the US.

              For perspective, in the US right now, on an annual basis, we probably manufacture less than 50 per year, or having manufacturing capability for less than 50 per year.

              Of course we don’t have the manufacturing capability right now in the US to manufacture at the very highest voltage levels – 765 KV.

              John: A lot of them are made in Brazil, Japan, Korea and so forth. They’re all non-domestic sources. …

              John: These are tens of millions of dollars (cost) per unit.

              The size of these are also enormous. They represent very significant logistical efforts to move and install these transformers. We’re talking about a three-phase unit that could weigh in the neighborhood of about 600 tons or more.

              Under normal conditions it requires six months or more planning in logistical support to get that heavy piece of apparatus from wherever it’s being received off of some ship, inland, over the right roads and rail connections and bridge underpasses and all those other things that need to be considered.

              Then it takes a highly skilled, highly trained crew to actually do the movement and installation of these. There’s only a limited amount of highly trained crews – the special shipment vehicles and things like that, that can handle these sort of things.

              So even if we had these spares available, it would still mean weeks and weeks of effort to logistically move these things to the right locations…

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    3. Phillip McKracken says:

      “Relocate out of major cities if possible”

      LOL

      Do not even think about coming out to the countryside and draining the resources. Us, “simple folks”, have been made fun of for years by city folks and we do not take kindly to strangers assuming they can just show up on our property. I know my land and know how to stop you before you even set foot on it.

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      • The Old Coach says:

        Could not have said it better myself. If you come out of some city, you better bring skills, knowledge, and brute strength with you, because the only way you stay here is if you work, and I do mean WORK! For me, ’cause it’s my land so I’m the boss. Period.

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      • JayJay says:

        Nancy Pelosi called Harry Reid into her office one day and said, “Harry, I have a plan to win back Middle America in 2012!”
        “Great Nancy, but how?” asked Harry.
        “We’ll get some cheesy clothes and shoes, like MOST Middle Class Americans wear, then stop at the pound and pick up a Labrador retriever. Then we’ll go to a nice old country bar in Montana and show them how much admiration and respect we have for the hard working people living there.”
        So they did and found just the place they were looking for. With the dog in tow they walked inside and stepped up to the bar.
        The bartender took a step back and said,” Hey! Aren’t you Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi?”
        “Yes we are! said Nancy.
        They ordered a round of bourbon for the whole bar, and started chatting up a storm with anyone who would listen.
        A few minutes later a grizzled old rancher came in, walked up to the Labrador, lifted up its tail, looked underneath, shrugged his shoulders and walked out. A few moments later in came another old rancher. He walked up to the dog, lifted up its tail, looked underneath, scratched his head and left the bar.
        For the next hour another dozen ranchers came in, and did the same thing.
        Finally, Nancy asked, “Why did all those old ranchers come in and look under the dog’s tail? Is it some sort of custom?”
        “Lord no,” said the bartender. “Someone’s out there running around town, claiming there’s a Labrador Retriever in here with two A$$holes!”

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    4. Mclovin says:

      Guess you could call it a ‘Premature Mass Ejection’…

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    5. VRF says:
      Comment ID: 1964074
      July 29, 2013 at 5:35 am O/T

      Interesting movie, CAT8
      Im not much to watch the Boob tube, ’cause is all bullsit..and hollywierd , but I ran across this movie playing last night and watched it..

      it touched on a lot of scenarios and some of the shit we have seen and wondered about

      anyone else watch it?

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      VRF says:
      Comment ID: 1964076
      July 29, 2013 at 5:36 am http://news.yahoo.com/spacecraft-sees-giant-hole-sun-video-153040642.html

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      I think I also posted something about this a while back

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    6. Abitdodgie says:

      When these coronal holes turn towards earth they tend to weaken or hold off until they are passed earth , it is something to do with the magnetic portal between Earth and the sun, so earth has quite a bit of power over the sun that is for a tiny planet . However i am sure one day when the time is right and the stars are in the right position and all that something might happen , I wish it would get on with it because i am sick of waiting.

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    7. Barn Cat says:

      This is something to consider:

      http://www.chronicle.su/news/edward-snowden-solar-flare-killshot-cataclysm-imminent/

      OSCOW, Russia – Edward Snowden, hacker-fugitive and former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, revealed Tuesday that a series of solar flares is set to occur in September, killing hundreds of millions of people. Documents provided by Snowden prove that, as of 14 years ago, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) remote viewers knew that the event was inevitable. Ever since, the world’s governments have quietly been trying to prepare for the sweeping global famine to result.

      Speaking from his room at Sheremetyevo Airport’s Hotel Novotel, Snowden revealed that government preparations for September’s catastrophic solar flares have been “to only limited avail.” The flares’ results, he said, are known casually throughout the global intelligence community as “the killshot.”

      Remote viewers employed by the CIA’s Project Stargate use their ability to perceive geographically and chronologically distant events to protect America. Since 1999 they have known about the solar-flare event but have been threatened into silence by enforcers on the secret government’s payroll.

      As a part of hiring Snowden as a contractor, the NSA granted the 30-year-old access to all communications on earth. Now he has provided The Internet Chronicle with top-secret Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) documents outlining just how terrible the solar flares’ results will be. In just two months, “the killshot” is set to disable all electronic food and water delivery systems.

      Ever since the late 20th century, hundreds of millions of people have begun to rely on technological automation to enable their very lives. Solar flares release electromagnetic pulses, hazardous to electronic circuits. The smallest electronic circuits, such as those in computers’ central processing units, will be the most vulnerable.

      Snowden said FEMA and the National Disaster Reduction Center of China have been taking steps for 14 years in light of the findings of Project Stargate. FEMA’s own documents, provided by Snowden, lay out how the organization plans to round up tens of millions of the poorest Americans for housing at secure locations “to better facilitate feeding and provision of consumer goods.”

      Snowden, for years a CIA contractor, released testimonials from hundreds of remote viewers. Many of those remote viewers are still on the payroll of the governments of the United States and the Russian Federation. Those testimonials, though written independently by the analysts, are comprised of 4,472 pages, every single one of which, alarmingly, evince Snowden’s account.

      “The massive electromagnetic pulse from the solar flares, or ‘the killshot,’ will shutter most of the world’s electrical systems,” said Snowden. “The Americans whose lives are most at risk are the elderly and the infirmed, those who depend on technology to enable their receiving home care or life-sustaining medical treatment.”

      Throughout the 1970s and the 1990s, Russia and the United States were desperate to track and monitor the construction and maintenance of each other’s nuclear silos. The nations’ governments openly admitted having poured billions of dollars into the training of elite teams of remote viewers. With their powers, the remote viewers were able to deter nuclear launches and, ultimately, bring an end to the Cold War. In the mid-’90s, the CIA simply pretended to close its remote-viewing program, so that it could operate more effectively.

      Snowden said he hopes that his coming forward will allow Project Stargate’s participants to be able to live normal, open lives again, “instead of as circus animals, instead of as freaks.” He added, “[Significant others of Project Stargate employees] have to get Q clearances just to cohabitate with, without even marrying, their loved ones. That’s tantamount to slavery.”

      Humanity is about to pay a most dire price for its technological dependence. That price, said Snowden, proved a leading factor in his decision to come forward to the press – about both the global Holocaust to ensue, as well as NSA analysts’ power, on the slightest whim, to listen to the phone calls of any person on earth.

      Snowden said, with regard to CIA remote viewers, “I have seen too many brave whistleblowers become subjects of smear and ridicule for using their talents to expose the truth.” Added Snowden, bitterly, “Well, we’ll see who’s Mr. Chuckles when ‘the killshot’ goes down.”

      WikiLeaks attorneys; and Anatoly Kucherena, Snowden’s own counsel, together produced a video calling for calm and global preparedness. Monday, Snowden sent the video, below, to the Russian Federal Migration Service as part of his call for asylum.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqcY4d3_g0s

      I’m not sure what to think about the predictions because remote viewing is an occult technique and they’re getting information from demons. Still, there could be some truth to it.

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      • KY Mom says:

        Catastrophic solar flares predicted to be coming in September…

        There was a warning posted on June 22 at Steve Quayle of a ‘Martial law scenario coming from hundreds of law enforcement, military & intelligence agents.’

        His friends in law enforcement and the military are being “trained for civil unrest when Martial Law is enacted.”

        “They are being told that they have to have all of their training completed and equipment in place BY THE END OF AUGUST.”

        Coincidence? Time will tell.

        (Direct link to article below.)

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          • Connor Kenway says:

            A day late and a dollar short…..I can’t even get SQ website to load as of right now, Aug 2, 1222pm central time. Hmmmm, this has been happening more and more recently. Thanks for the link and info, hopefully I’ll be able to access it soon…..

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        • Anonymous says:

          Ky….did I miss the link??

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          • Barn Cat says:

            What’s interesting is there was a link at SteveQuayle.com about Snowden and the solar flare killshot. But it was only there for a short time. There was a short time when the whole site was down. When it came back the link was gone.

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            • ILmom says:

              Barn cat…glad you posted a link here then, or I would’ve missed it. Thanks!!

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              • Outlaw says:

                The source site posted above is a spoof site. Like The Onion. Check their about page. I’m not implying that it is not true, I am looking, but I cannot find a credible source. Many sites posted it apparently, only to take it down shortly after…

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                • Barn Cat says:

                  Not true. Here’s a link to Edward Snowden’s Twitter account:

                  https://twitter.com/EJosephSnowden

                  You’ll find a reference to that article there.

                  Not only that, the CIA’s remote viewing program is a real program that was headed up by Ed Dames. Ed Dames has made numerous appearances on various radio shows. He has numerous youtube clips. What you can say about Ed Dames is that he’s been making this prediction since 1998 or so but given different dates for when it will happen.

                  I think the links were taken down because of pressure from the federal government.

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        • JayJay says:

          Ky Mom..read the alert for today’s date if you want chills.

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          • Wilson says:

            @JayJay,
            Would you post the link to today’s info?

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            • JayJay says:

              stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=494

              Scary stuff.

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              • JayJay says:

                stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=495

                This one was just posted!!!
                I’m forwarding you a message that I received from the State Department. I’m still on their e-mailing list from my time in Kuwait. I never received an e-mail like this in my four years while over there. Something’s brewing

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              • Road Runner says:

                Jay Jay you are headed down a road with a lot of potholes if your give credence to Steve Quayle and company. He will never tell you the truth and obfuscates the Truth. He is all about ‘scary’ stuff and that is about all he is about!

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          • Them Guys says:

            Remote Viewers claim they can see stuff in another location from the place They are at…And that link article says they also “Saw” 14 yrs Into the Future!

            Barn Cat as a self professed “christian” have you not read the bible verses that describe a TRUE Prophet as one who is Always 100% correct in every detail and word they “predict” to occure in some future era or time?

            The VERY FACT such remote viewers are NOT 100% correct, If at all ever correct(of course if one makes enough prdictions the law of averages dictate he should be correct sooner or later likly). Should be a BIG Clue to such a profound biblical Expert, as You Barn Cat seem to Imply you are whenever you protest anything said on issues such as “jewish or israel” issues.

            Perhaps instead of Adding to all of your massive mistaken ideas about that issue, and so many other biblical issues you have Proven yourself to be so wrong on…You may prefer to brush-up on some of that biblical teaching stuff you so lack in. Like what I just informed you of about False Predictors etc. Then later perhaps you can do serious Re-thinking work on your massive jewish delusional falshoods and come bacm as a Clear Headed thinker fully able to comprehend the factual truths you seem so unable to Grasp.

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            • Road Runner says:

              Them Guys: Wizards that peek into the future using demons or rather demons use them. They are already deluded. Any Christian who would give any credence to remote viewing is a liar and deceiver. Next step they will holding seances on line where you too can become an instant wizard and communicate with some schizo devil.

              I might add Them Guys that even though what Schizo kitty might predict comes to pass, but if he wants others to go after another God other than the True God, he still is a false prophet. In other words even if what someone says happens you better have your Truth meter on, and there is only one Truth meter, the Holy Spirit.

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            • Dave in Id says:

              SQuayle, Ajones, all those “buy gold” people. what a pile of shit. Fear Porn=$$$$$$. blend in 10% fact with 90% bullshit and sell it. Them Guys is correct about real prophets being correct 100% of the time.

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        • Dave in Id says:

          I dont think solar flares can be predicted. There are cycles just like our seasons, but they cant predict when a solar flare is coming before it goes off. Where is JOG when I need him.

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      • And the good news is, all the info they gathered on us will go up in a puff of smoke..the bad news is, we might too

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        • sixpack says:

          If anything electronic survives, IT WILL BE the most expensive, redundant and protected systems of the lot…in other words, only WE, the people will lose our electronics.

          Everything else will be heavily protected.

          It would’ve been nice for us all to have to start over from scratch, but reality is, it won’t be like that. Their demon data will be safe, bet on it.

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      • Forrest says:

        Remote viewers are NOT “demons”; that is just silly. You sound like something from the dark ages! Obviously, you have never had an intuitive or spiritual experience. When people don’t understand something, they resort to name calling, or other silly retorts. Like they used to call women witches and they called Jesus bad names because they didn’t understand him! Stop being so closed minded, fearful, ignorant!

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      • JustMe says:

        Remote viewing is not “occult”, nor are they “getting information from demons”. Much has been learned since the 5th century…

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      • Outlaw says:

        The source site posted above is a spoof site. Like The Onion. Check their about page. I’m not implying that it is not true, I am looking, but I cannot find a credible source. Many sites posted it apparently, only to take it down shortly after…

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        • Shootit says:

          We will live and die by the sun. No control. My Uncle who worked for NASA saId that there is a satellite pointed at the sun 24/7. It looks for solar flairs and records it’s temperature plus other stuff. The key to his comment was that the earth’s temperature was directly related to the sun’s temperature. REALLY?

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      • JayJay says:

        ~~~I’m not sure what to think about the predictions because remote viewing is an occult technique and they’re getting information from demons~~~
        Really???

        Acts 2:17
        “‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;

        And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Numbers 12:6

        Amos 3:7
        “For the Lord God does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.

        If God desires to communicate His message to a person, He can use whatever means He finds necessary—a missionary, an angel, a vision, or a dream. Of course, God also has the ability to give visions in areas where the gospel message is already readily available. There is no limit to what God can do.

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        • Emily says:

          There is also the spirit of discernment.
          To be aware and guided by the spirit within you.

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          • Them Guys says:

            JayJay: Acts,2:17 pour out Spirit in last days. Think it was Paul who told us the Last days or final age began when Christ Died on the cross etc. We have been in the Last/final age since 33 ad.

            40 days After Christ died is when God sent the “helper” aka the Holy Spirit first to the 12 apostles in the “Upper Room”. Then to the aprox 3000 Others the apostles preached in tongues to, which meerely means they spoke as normally, and all 3000 Others from many languages and areas were ALL able to Understand every work spoken AS IF spoken in Their Own dufferent language.

            It says so in the bible accounting of that event..

            Unlike what Many preachers say today, Falsely, that the Last days out pouring of Holy Spirit is to be some “Future” event or recent todays era event…Thats Bunk. Its derived by twisting and spining scriptures to bend it to Fit their warped ideas and views.

            Those type pastors or bible ‘experts” first decide what is happening today or occured at some prior time before today, then they look thru the entire bible to find verses that match or can be Twisted or blended with other Out of Contextual verses or 1/2 sentebces etc, to Create their Own version of events predicted to soon happen.

            OR to explain Past events epecially past events that revolve around israel or jewish issues.

            Bottom line is: God gave Mankind the Holy Spirit the first time at that Upper Room 40 days after Christ died event. Previously to That time, only Gods hand picked Prophets or certain Kings etc got the benifit of Holy Spirit interventions etc.

            40 days after His death, the Holy Spirit was made avail for ALL persons all of mankind. BUT!! That does NOT mean everybody worldwide gets some free and all is happy and swell. ONLY God decides WHO gets the Holy Spirit, which itself IS the spirit of GOD indwelling within Our bodys as the NEW Temple God resides in now. Thats reason NO 3rd jew temple needs be built…We Christians are the Body of Christ-the Church-The Elect-The Saved ones-By use of Our free will acceptance of Christs Gospel and kingdom of God words from the scriptures etc.

            Only by a free will Choice to accept Christ will any person be allowd to Recieve Gods Gift of the Holy Spirit of God Liveing alive within Us. NO others gets or has His Holy Spirit. None.

            Other verses in New testement describe what IS and whats NOT works of the devil satan…aka…Witchcraft.

            All such works NOT of God such as Remote viewing-contacting other spirits-trying to contact/pray to Dead folks-False idol false God worship etc etc etc…ARE ALL works of Satan same as witchcraft is. It is Forbidden for christians to do or believe in.

            Yes todays free society and atheistic type folks scoff, and cry Foul if we say God actually has Rules for us to Obey and Follow. They claim if gods real why does he do or not do this or that etc…They have created a False God Idol in their own Minds, by deciding what type God he should really Be to suit Their prespectives…Most use that as excuse to reject God belief and remain atheists.

            Thats their choice to do so. Their Loss too.

            To believe all persons no matter what they do or what method to achieve someting(like remote viewing) somehow have the Holy Spirit due to last days out pouring now, makes it all peachy keen a ok is delusional thought.

            Why would God even need to pour His Spirit out again a second time? Ever ask them false pastors That?

            Ask pastors: Why? did the First out pouring event 2000 yrs ago in Upper room era somehow run dry? did it Stop working and need be replaced like old shoes or cars does?

            Was the First out poured Spirit not enough in size or Quanity for 7 billion people?

            Obviously the Only proper answer to all is NO! None is true. That Once Poured out Spirit of Gods Spirit at upper room event 2000 yrs ago is still effective-always will remain so-Never wears out-never gets used up-never fails due to too small content-etc.

            So like I said being we have been in Final Last days since Christ died and also he established Our Christianity and NEW Covenant that Replaced the Old covenant made with 12 tribes of israelites or hebrews of Jacobs sons tribes. And since Holy Spirit lives Inside Us christians-body and bride of Christ-aka the Church- there is no need for any “new” spirit or outpouring, there will NOT be a new outpouring regardless What so many false preaches and false “prophets” today teach(falsely so).

            And if any such fed govnt “remote” viewers or any Others within any fed programs that reek of witchcraft-satanic-evil-or contacting dead folks or seeing the Future etc- If they were true Christians, and they Must be to possess Gods Holy Spirit within themselves, then they would Never accept such positions or jobs. Unless a fake christian perhaps they would then.

            Its a Good thing christians has Gods rules etc to Obey. Its for Our and the worlds Good. Fools and atheists and self centered folks cannot see or accept that. So what.

            Moral Relativity as libs promote, and librtarians too, is Not compatible with being a True Christian. A person can claim different yes…But the entire new testement Outlines Gods wishes and rules etc to be a christian.

            Like games of Football ot chess board games…Rules do Matter right!….Would You play Chess or baseball with folks who claimn “Relativity” to make diff rules as they go along to play game? Of Course Not!

            Then why should Christianity be any Different when its Gods rules involved to obey? How else can one be a real christian?…IMHO-Remote viewers are NOT useing Holy Spirit powers…Satans power perhaps!(very likely so).

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        • Barn Cat says:

          God doesn’t make his prophets use satanic techniques to get messages. God just gives them as He sees fit.

          A year or two I’d been praying regularly that God would give me a dream or a vision of the time of year of the collapse. I went to bed one evening and just after I laid down this is what came into my mind:

          I’m standing outside the Perkins Restaurant that I go to. They’re out of business. The windows are dusty. There are streaks where rain has washed the dust away. There are autumn leaves swirling in the parking lot.

          So yes, God pours out his Spirit without making his followers use satanic spiritual techniques to get them.

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          • Them Guys says:

            Wow! I had a dream vision of a Barn Cat. Standing in front of a Closed down restaurant, pennyless, due to this Cat gave his scofiled preacher swindlerman all his kitty-cash to send to israel to build 3rd jew sanhedrin temple where the jewish antichrist can reside, while watching his pharisee rabbis and sanhedrin murder squads kill off stupid jewdeo christians who Fell for the 2nd largest Hoax in history!…IE: The barn cat in my vision dream thought hed be Pre-Trib Raptured away before he got Pennyless and broke!

            Now in My dream the poor kitty cat was not just flat broke after trusting his fake preacher and handing all his cash over to swindlers and temple builders, hes also one Very Hungry Cat!….Even his Favorite restaurant is closed to buisness now!

            Too bad the poor dumb cat rejected all that Sound advice-actual biblical verse text-and-Cash advice from Durango Kidd! But Nope! Barn Cat rather reject all such sound doctrine from, them guys-road runner-DK-and a few Other awakened folks who tried so hard to reach this Cat.

            Maybe next time we all should stick to Dogs and not worry about the Cats.

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            • Mountain Trekker says:

              What a shame that so many want to use THE HOLY BIBLE to make it say what they want it to say, instead of what it actually says. And if it doesn’t suit what people desires, then they try and say it was misinterpreted. One thing that is certain, GOD came in the flesh as Jesus Christ and bleed and died for ALL he did not come to spread HATE among the races as we are incline to do, Myself included. As I have read in past comments, I have no need to quote Chapters or Versus. Matthews Chap. 25 and II Peter Chap.3 Vs.9.– Lets share thoughts not hate. Trekker Out.

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              • Them Guys says:

                Mountain Treker: Have you forgotten the bible verses, if I recall its in Thesolonians(?) where an Entire chapter is Devoted to explaining the difference between two type peoples?

                Differences between: Children of Light and of Darkness.

                It goes on to list in Detail aprox a Dozen types, IE: Liars-thieves-murderers-etc etc…UN bleievers-False God believers-etc etc…They are of Darkness side aka Satans Children.

                Christians are Children of Light aka of God His kids.

                Do You recall How that chapter Ends Treker? I will tell you how it ends. It states “Therefore You children of Light and God…From such(the others of darkness and Satan) TURN AWAY! aka Have zero to do with them folks treker. NOT lets all get along forget differences like some rodney king fantacy dream life. “Cant we all jus gets along”?…NO we Cannot! unless and Untill They accept Christ as a true christian and Then we can get along as ONE peoples.

                So treker while you may not realize it, when folks promote what you stated, its really advice for us to go Against the bible verses and against Christ and Gods words and ways to live by.

                Thats the biggest mistake patriots today seem to make. They keep attempting to put aside differences and get along with every possible type persons. Is That truely what the bible or Jesus Taught us christians to do Treker?

                Not hardly eh. I just wanted to mention this as it seems today Most folks has forgot those bible teachings, and thay are Critical for christians to Know and Practice.

                be NOT one with the World. The world Hated Me(Jesus) and will Hate You too for belief in Me…NO man can follow Me(jesus) unless hes willing to disown the world, ways of the world, peoples who are wordly and Fleshly, and that man shall even come to Hate the world and its ways, and unless that man can Hate his Own Parents he cannot follow me(jesus).

                Thats in the bible too treker.Like You said we cant pick and choose which verses to Obey right.

                PS: before folks go off half cocked and whine at me for saying Hate his own Parents…It means Hate what and How parents do things IF they go against Gods biblical word.

                NOT actual hate of the person per se, just Hate their Worldly works and works of flesh etc that are against God if thats the case. And with Many christians that Is the case even with their own Parents. Christians are supposed to be with fellow christians and NOT be Unequally Yoked with Unbelievers or evil doers etc.

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              • Road Runner says:

                Trekker: I only have one verse for you! WOE unto you when all men speak well of you! These are the ones who kissed the ass of the false prophets and followed the pernicious way of vipers and scorpions! WOE!

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      • Paranoid says:

        Sorry, but I call it BS, They Gov couldn’t keep the A-Bomb a secret for 15 years. In that much time it would have been easy to get ready for this and they haven’t; not even for themselves. We shall see next month. Too bad I cannot bet with you.

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      • Outlaw says:

        What is not true?
        The site you posted is a spoof website.

        An excerpt from their About page:
        “At the Chronicle.SU, we take truth seriously. We take what we do so seriusly, untruths at chronicle.su are punishable by mutilation or death.
        Sadly, chronicle.su is not of this earth. After crash landing in an asteroid December 30th, 1976, the alien husks of Chronicle editors rapidly adapted to Earth climates and bacterial flora. They are able to survive naturally in the wild and reproduce freely.
        Here at chronicle.su, we take a liberal stance on drug abuse and theft of intellectual property, but that does not mean we are liberal because liberals are faggots and I ain’t no steer-boatin’ queer!
        Receiving tweets twice daily via fax from religious advisers impregnates our right-wing furnace of hate, enabling us to bring you the most horrifyingly sensational headlines you’ve ever seen, or your money back – guaranteed!”

        The other sites that posted the story linked back to the spoof site. When the editors realized it was a spoof, they took down the link.

        The fact that the linked site is a spoof site is no conspiracy and is completely true.

        As for the link to Edward Snowden’s twitter page, I took a look. I am not familiar with twitter, but it appeared fake to me, at least I would hope that is not his real twitter account.

        As for the rest of the mumbo jumbo about the remote viewing, etc. I never addressed those topics.

        I simply stated that the source site was a spoof site, similar to The Onion.

        And you reply “Not true”

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        • Them Guys says:

          Outlaw: Nice to read a post like yours where the poster person actually still goes by Facts! And takes the time and effort to research to find whats truth and facts instead of some folks here, whos idea of facts seems to be…”it Must be true or else why would My mind think it is if it wasn’t”?

          Outlaw be prepared to Now recieve tons of red thumbs, as You used that much Hated word here…Facts. True Facts From the very website it came from too! Thats really gone overboard!

          Same as my posts when I use quoted statements BY the very folks the issue is about if its a jewish issue or is about israel. Ironic the whiners and cryers so quick to call names, Never call names of the actual person who I quoted!….These fools method of thinking goes like “If a person posts a fact or statement we disagree with then That person is a hater or nazi or rassist antisemite. But the person that Made the actual quoted statements get a Free pass if They are of the ones we like or worship so greatly as a special class of chozens.”

          Don’t be shocked if Outlaw is added to the “secret List” the “HERD” mentality types here scorn and red thumb down usually withOUT even reading what you wrote! I rekon they go by the posters screen name when decideing to thumb down a post as compared to Content of said post! Welcome to the club with the least membership here…Those few Honest truth fact type folks.

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    8. Anonymous says:

      Will this affect my aps?

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    9. Stez says:

      A total blackout of news propaganda for a year or two would be a blessing as far as I’m concerned. People would get to see real life (and the real nature of some people) right in front of their eyes. I bet that would wake some of them pretty quick.

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      • Them Guys says:

        Talk of a Wake up Call…I finally found that General Geroge Patton’s Diray info I promiced somebody here(?) that I’d post if I can find it again. Ok I did so here is a few sections from a 1947 article, which I think is what the actual Book “Pattons Diary” from 1977 or so was based on. Talk of a wake up call eh! Patton Likley got Assaniated by usa fed govnt for his wakeup and further letters to Home on it!…Read it and then You decide if he was assainated or not…

        George Patton was a highly decorated war hero from WWII who led the Third Army to victory in many campaigns. After the war, General Patton was tasked with control of the larger portion of American occupied Germany, and his job was to dole out justice to the newly defeated enemy. It was the summer of 1945, and after the end of the fighting, General Patton started to get a grip on what had really transpired around him.

        As General Patton started to actually become acquainted with the defeated Germans and America’s Soviet allies, Patton finally realized what he was in the midst of, and his opinions about the war, and both our enemies and allies changed drastically. What Patton realized was recorded in his diary, and in letters to everyone from his family and friends, to other military and government personnel.

        It’s a good thing that these writings were preserved, so that we could see how even America’s “most fightingest General” knew that something was wrong with the outcome of WWII. In those writings it is clear that Patton realized that these new “allies” of ours were more of a danger than the Germans ever were.

        The rest of this article is a summary compiled by someone else from a book called the Patton Papers, published in 1947, which contained the diary entries, letters, and other writings.

        On May 7, 1945, just before the German capitulation, Patton had a conference in Austria with U.S. Secretary of War Robert Patterson. Patton was gravely concerned over the Soviet failure to respect the demarcation lines separating the Soviet and American occupation zones. He was also alarmed by plans in Washington for the immediate partial demobilization of the U.S. Army. Patton said to Patterson: “Let’s keep our boots polished, bayonets sharpened, and present a picture of force and strength to the Red Army. This is the only language they understand and respect.” Patterson replied, “Oh, George, you have been so close to this thing so long, you have lost sight of the big picture.” Patton rejoined: “I understand the situation. Their (the Soviet) supply system is inadequate to maintain them in a serious action such as I could put to them. They have chickens in the coop and cattle on the hoof — that’s their supply system. They could probably maintain themselves in the type of fighting I could give them for five days. After that it would make no difference how many million men they have, and if you wanted Moscow I could give it to you. They lived on the land coming down. There is insufficient left for them to maintain themselves going back. Let’s not give them time to build up their supplies.

        If we do, then . . . we have had a victory over the Germans and disarmed them, but we have failed in the liberation of Europe; we have lost the war!”

        Patton’s urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded by Patterson and the other politicians and only served to give warning about Patton’s feelings to the alien conspirators behind the scenes in New York, Washington, and Moscow.

        The more he saw of the Soviets, the stronger Patton’s conviction grew that the proper course of action would be to stifle communism then and there, while the chance existed. Later in May 1945 he attended several meetings and social affairs with top Red Army officers, and he evaluated them carefully. He noted in his diary on May 14: “I have never seen in any army at any time, including the German Imperial Army of 1912, as severe discipline as exists in the Russian army. The officers, with few exceptions, give the appearance of recently civilized Mongolian bandits.” And Patton’s aide, General Hobart Gay, noted in his own journal for May 14: “Everything they (the Russians) did impressed one with the idea of virility and cruelty.” Nevertheless, Patton knew that the Americans could whip the Reds then — but perhaps not later. On May 18 he noted in his diary:

        “In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better.” Two days later he repeated his concern when he wrote his wife: “If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on we will get weaker and they stronger.”

        Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of action which would have freed all of eastern Europe from the communist yoke with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both those later wars not to mention World War III — Patton next came to appreciate the true nature of the people for whom World War II was fought: the Jews.

        PART II: Next Post for final, Part II of Pattons Diary.

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        • Them Guys says:

          General Geroge Patton’s Diary: Final Part II…..

          Most of the Jews swarming over Germany immediately after the war came from Poland and Russia, and Patton found their personal habits shockingly uncivilized. He was disgusted by their behavior in the camps for Displaced Persons (DP’s) which the Americans built for them and even more disgusted by the way they behaved when they were housed in German hospitals and private homes. He observed with horror that “these people do not understand toilets and refuse to use them except as repositories for tin cans, garbage, and refuse . . . They decline, where practicable, to use latrines, preferring to relieve themselves on the floor.” He described in his diary one DP camp, “where, although room existed, the Jews were crowded together to an appalling extent, and in practically every room there was a pile of garbage in one corner which was also used as a latrine. The Jews were only forced to desist from their nastiness and clean up the mess by the threat of the butt ends of rifles. Of course, I know the expression ‘lost tribes of Israel’ applied to the tribes which disappeared — not to the tribe of Judah from which the current sons of bitches are descended. However, it is my personal opinion that this too is a lost tribe — lost to all decency.” Patton’s initial impressions of the Jews were not improved when he attended a Jewish religious service at Eisenhower’s insistence. His diary entry for September 17, 1945, reads in part –

          “This happened to be the feast of Yom Kippur, so they were all collected in a large, wooden building, which they called a synagogue. It behooved General Eisenhower to make a speech to them. We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came down and met the General . . . The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and actually about three hours later lost my lunch as the result of remembering it.”

          These experiences and a great many others firmly convinced Patton that the Jews were an especially unsavory variety of creature and hardly deserving of all the official concern the American government was bestowing on them. Another September diary entry, following a demand from Washington that more German housing be turned over to Jews, summed up his feelings:

          “Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. Harrison (a U.S. State Department official) and his associates indicate that they feel German civilians should be removed from houses for the purpose of housing Displaced Persons. There are two errors in this assumption. First, when we remove an individual German we punish an individual German, while the punishment is — not intended for the individual but for the race.

          Furthermore, it is against my Anglo-Saxon conscience to remove a person from a house, which is a punishment, without due process of law. In the second place, Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.”

          One of the strongest factors in straightening out General Patton’s thinking on the conquered Germans was the behavior of America’s controlled news media toward them. At a press conference in Regensburg, Germany, on May 8, 1945, immediately after Germany’s surrender, Patton was asked whether he planned to treat captured SS troops differently from other German POW’s. His answer was: “No. SS means no more in Germany than being a Democrat in America — that is not to be quoted. I mean by that that initially the SS people were special sons of bitches, but as the war progressed they ran out of sons of bitches and then they put anybody in there. Some of the top SS men will be treated as criminals, but there is no reason for trying someone who was drafted into this outfit . . .”

          Despite Patton’s request that his remark not be quoted, the press eagerly seized on it, and Jews and their front men in America screamed in outrage over Patton’s comparison of the SS and the Democratic Party as well as over his announced intention of treating most SS prisoners humanely. With great reluctance, and only after repeated promptings from Eisenhower, he had thrown German families out of their homes to make room for more than a million Jewish DP’s — part of the famous “six million” who had supposedly been gassed — but he balked when ordered to begin blowing up German factories, in accord with the infamous Morgenthau Plan to destroy Germany’s economic basis forever. In his diary he wrote: “I doubted the expediency of blowing up factories, because the ends for which the factories are being blown up — that is, preventing Germany from preparing for war — can be equally well attained through the destruction of their machinery, while the buildings can be used to house thousands of homeless persons.” Similarly, he expressed his doubts to his military colleagues about the overwhelming emphasis being placed on the persecution of every German who had formerly been a member of the National Socialist party. In a letter to his wife of September 14, 1945, he said:

          “I am frankly opposed to this war criminal stuff. It is not cricket and is Semitic. I am also opposed to sending POW’s to work as slaves in foreign lands (i.e., the Soviet Union’s Gulags), where many will be starved to death.” Despite his disagreement with official policy, Patton followed the rules laid down by Morgenthau and others back in Washington as closely as his conscience would allow, but he tried to moderate the effect, and this brought him into increasing conflict with Eisenhower and the other politically ambitious generals. In another letter to his wife he commented:

          “I have been at Frankfurt for a civil government conference. If what we are doing (to the Germans) is ‘Liberty, then give me death.’ I can’t see how Americans can sink so low. It is Semitic, and I am sure of it.” And in his diary he noted:, “Today we received orders . . . in which we were told to give the Jews special accommodations. If for Jews, why not Catholics, Mormons, etc? . . . We are also turning over to the French several hundred thousand prisoners of war to be used as slave labor in France.

          It is amusing to recall that we fought the Revolution in defense of the rights of man and the Civil War to abolish slavery and have now gone back on both principles.”

          His duties as military governor took Patton to all parts of Germany and intimately acquainted him with the German people and their condition. He could not help but compare them with the French, the Italians, the Belgians, and even the British. This comparison gradually forced him to the conclusion that World War II had been fought against the WRONG people.

          After a visit to ruined Berlin, he wrote his wife on July 21, 1945: “Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It’s said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed.”

          This conviction, that the politicians had used him and the U.S. Army for a criminal purpose, grew in the following weeks. During a dinner with French General Alphonse Juin in August, Patton was surprised to find the Frenchman in agreement with him. His diary entry for August 18 quotes Gen. Juin: “It is indeed unfortunate, mon General, that the English and the Americans have destroyed in Europe the only sound country — and I do not mean France. Therefore, the road is now open for the advent of Russian communism.”

          Later diary entries and letters to his wife reiterate this same conclusion. On August 31 he wrote: “Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. it’s a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans.” And on September 2: “What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe, so that Russia can swallow the whole.”

          By this time the Morgenthauists and media monopolists had decided that Patton was incorrigible and must be discredited. So they began a non-stop hounding of him in the press, a la Watergate, accusing him of being “soft on Nazis” and continually recalling an incident in which he had slapped a shirker two years previously, during the Sicily campaign. A New York newspaper printed the completely false claim that when Patton had slapped the soldier who was Jewish, he had called him a “yellow-bellied Jew.” Then, in a press conference on September 22, reporters hatched a scheme to needle Patton into losing his temper and making statements which could be used against him. The scheme worked. The press interpreted one of Patton’s answers to their insistent questions as to why he was not pressing the Nazi-hunt hard enough as: “The Nazi thing is just like a Democrat-Republican fight.” The New York Times headlined this quote, and other papers all across America picked it up. The unmistakable hatred which had been directed at him during this press conference finally opened Patton’s eyes fully as to what was afoot. In his diary that night lie wrote: “There is a very apparent Semitic influence in the press. They are trying to do two things: first, implement communism, and second, see that all businessmen of German ancestry and non-Jewish antecedents are thrown out of their jobs. “They have utterly lost the Anglo-Saxon conception of justice and feel that a man can be kicked out because somebody else says he is a Nazi. They were evidently quite shocked when I told them I would kick nobody out without the successful proof of guilt before a court of law . . . “Another point which the press harped on was the fact that we were doing too much for the Germans to the detriment of the DP’s, most of whom are Jews. I could not give the answer to that one, because the answer is that, in my opinion and that of most nonpolitical officers, it is vitally necessary for us to build Germany up now as a buffer state against Russia. In fact, I am afraid we have waited too long.”

          And in a letter of the same date to his wife: “I will probably be in the headlines before you get this, as the press is trying to quote me as being more interested in restoring order in Germany than in catching Nazis. I can’t tell them the truth that unless we restore Germany we will insure that communism takes America.”

          Eisenhower responded immediately to the press outcry against Patton and made the decision to relieve him of his duties as military governor and “kick him upstairs” as the commander of the Fifteenth Army. In a letter to his wife on September 29, Patton indicated that he was, in a way, not unhappy with his new assignment, because “I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe.” On October 22 he wrote a long letter to Maj. Gen. James G. Harbord, who was back in the States. In the letter Patton bitterly condemned the Morgenthau policy; Eisenhower’s pusillanimous behavior in the face of Jewish demands; the strong pro-Soviet bias in the press; and the politicization, corruption, degradation, and demoralization of the U.S. Army which these things were causing. He saw the demoralization of the Army as a deliberate goal of America’s enemies: “I have been just as furious as you at the compilation of lies which the communist and Semitic elements of our government have leveled against me and practically every other commander. In my opinion it is a deliberate attempt to alienate the soldier vote from the commanders, because the communists know that soldiers are not communistic, and they fear what eleven million votes (of veterans) would do.”

          In his letter to Harbord, Patton also revealed his own plans to fight those who were destroying the morale and integrity of the Army and endangering America’s future by not opposing the growing Soviet might: “It is my present thought . . . that when I finish this job, which will be around the first of the year, I shall resign, not retire, because if I retire I will still have a gag in my mouth . . . I should not start a limited counterattack, which would be contrary to my military theories, but should wait until I can start an all-out offensive . . . .” The End….

          Indeed, one of Americas Greatest “Fightingest” Generals, George Patton, never made it back Home to the u.s.a as his Jeep got into a fender bender accident, which caused him minor injuries he was taken to hopsital for. He by then felt something was not ‘kosher” at recent events etc. He Died not long after his hospital stay.

          Many have said Patton was Assainated due to his Vast Awakenings regarding the entire WWII set of events. Once war ended he had time to reflect, and realize things were vastly different than our Militaries were led to believe going into world war two. Now aproximatly 70 yrs afterwards history shows that not only was Gen George Patton Correct…He was ironically Prophetic to say the least!

          We could use a few More True Patriot Heros in todays Dire straight’s of America. Pray that we still have a few such great men and that they soon step foreward…..

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          • yental says:

            A very historically accurate post.

            Unfortunately, YOU MUST NOW CONTEND WITH the gooberment sponsored TROLLS, and politically correct brainwashed “sheeple-heads” that are always on HIGH ALERT for information that might question THEIR deeply ingrained misinformation and unquestionably accepted “long-time LIES”.

            IGNORE THE “THUMBS”, and continue to accurately and consistently EXPOSE THE TRUTH.

            Many “here”, actually want THE TRUTH. Other “vocal trolls/ignorant sheeple following some Zionist-Christian NeoCon “man-of-God” will ALWAYS kill the REAL TRUTH on sight.

            Great post, and ANYONE truly interested in the TRUTH can research this…assuming the desire for TRUTH-TRUMPS-EXISTING-NORMALCY-BIAS!

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          • JustMe says:

            General Patton’s son knew his father was assasinated.

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          • Barn Cat says:

            That’s all Nazi propaganda. Patton’s diary is a forgery. The Jews lived in the cities. They were highly educated. It’s idiotic to think that they were more ignorant than Poles and Germans who lived on farms. You should know better but then the crap like you posted fits in with your ignorant hated. People like you are so gullible. It’s easy to make you believe things that conform to your prejudices.

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            • Outlaw says:

              You are funny barncat, you post a fear-porn link above, to a self-admitted spoof site. I call it out for what it is and you say my statement is not true. Yet you attack them guys post, which is historically documented, with pitiful verbal attacks and no documentation to back it up. You need to do a little better research man.

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              • Road Runner says:

                Outlaw: I don’t truly believe he is US Gov but rather a dual Israeli citizen with Hasbera ties, possibly ADL and Google ties. Bunch of dogs.

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          • Outlaw says:

            Thank you for sharing them guys. I know you are not Mr popular here, but I enjoy many of your posts.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Barn Cat: You are Dumber than a box of dirt.You Project every single fault-guilt-idiocy-lunacy- you have onto Others same as typical sal alinsky Liberals do when they cannot debate or offer Valid counters or proofs to back what they state. Barn Cat You are so full of Crap its not even funny anymore.

              For Your Information fool: Russia back in Pre-1900 era Russia, had the Wrolds Largest population of Jews resideing in the Settlement of PALE, as it ws called.

              JEWS Numbered on avg from 8-10 MILLION total there, and then. Every single jew had to REMAIN in the “Pale” because as per usual in EVERY nation-city-state-village-jews infiltrated, it took varrying time frames…But! Every single time, in Every place or area jews lived as a group…They ALWAYS ended up being Booted Out! Or Had to live by themselves as in the Pale of russia.

              OVERWHELMING Proof and evidence, Much From JEW’s themselves, the “Few” who admit to Truths, have Documented these Facts. It is Always the Same causes and reasons jews are and were Dispised everywhere they can be found. Because due to 3000+ yrs of Talmudic Distorted, Falsehoods-evils-Perversions-Self Chozenness-and overall-Hatred of ALL Non Jews aka Goyim gentiles, Taught to every Jew from the Moment they take their first breath when born.(that Vile evil-Talmud, is even in their mothers breast milk they consume from birth!)

              Has resulted in a Attitude in jews that they NEVER assimilate and always Remain a SUB-culture within the Main culture no matter what nation or other peoples they infiltrate and co-exist with. And they Infiltrate since NO sane peoples INCLUDING the USA founders etc has ever “Invited” jews to come on in and live here amoung us!!…But You barn Kitty never wondered as to Why that is right….You simply buy into every con-scam-swidnle-Lie-spin-Nonsensical-faked-phony-Crap, That You barn kitty has ever Heard=been Taught or Told to believe-Especially by Phony Unqualified Trailer Trash Baptist Scofield bible promoting preacher man your small ears ever heard SPEW filth like “Bless jews like Your bible teaches!”

              Barn Kitty: Ever actually try and FIND, ANY bible verses that state “Bless the Jews”?..You Won’t find any neither as NONE such verses exist, except in some falsehood teacher/preacher who has deluded himself, and Passed off His delusions Onto YOU! and stupid IS as Stupid Does…Barn Cat Buys ANY Snake Oil by Any such false pastor or public school text books, and of Course all Hollywood or MSM propagated Disinfo and BS lies.

              Like a Typical zio and jew as well as Liberal fool, when you cannot argue Facts-Debate truth-Provide Any other proofs etc then like those libs and jews and zionists. Barn Cat resorts to their all time Favorite: “Thats…..A…FORGERY!!!” Along with slanderous nasty name calling such as Nazi! antisemite! Raysiss!

              Barn Cat: You Belong in a Circus! What a Top-Class Act! Worthy of the Center Ring in a three ring circus, so all present at said circus can watch the “Amazeing Barn KittyCat Perform Magic! Right before Your eyes! when he mysteriously proves his Cat like ability and Prowess, as barncat is somehow able to Dazzle masses and crowds with an uncanny ability to Keep His HEAD Deeply Inserted UP a JEWS Asshole, while Spewing Vile Condemnations, such as

              “youarejustanaziwhowantstokillsixmillionmorejewsandhatesniggersandwantstohangafricanslikeakkknazihatemonger”

              Folks! Not only can barn cat spew such crap while his head is Imbedded into some fat jews ass deeper than the Grand Caynoyn…But Barn Cat is able to hold his breath and remain imbedded thusly for hours on end!

              Pitty them what has Eyes and can’t see, and has Ears yet are unable to Hear…..My Big Brother Jesus Christ says so…Let me know if I can Introduce You to Him barn Cat.

              Glad to assist in Your mass awakening(if at all possible at this junction of your sorry life)…Them Guys

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              • Road Runner says:

                Them Guys: Barn yard cat is a troll, troll, troll double troll…scat cat!
                Lying piece of snake shit.
                Who promotes and pays these trolls, or are they altruists who believe what they say, stating no facts. Swearing is not trolling, posting a stupid remark is not trolling, trollers know what they are doing, thus they victimize the unaware. Troller want to convince you they are telling the truth when in fact they know they are deceivers and liars. They are wankers (unpleasant persons) that enjoy what they do and and are never factual or fact based. They use slander and innuendo rather that any facts to support anything they say. They will turn you from facts to innocuous post by changing the hot thread. Those who are not savvy will give up without a fight allow these wankers to keep doing it. The worst type are those who promote and allow trolls to continue their diabolical destruction of Truth. So if you are one who shrinks from the a fight and who turns tail and runs, you deserve to be trolled. The biggie is the internet toughguy that can chew bullets, slay any dragon, and tell you how tough they are. They make insulting and libelous statement in order to ‘get a rise’. They will bait people to intentionally piss them off. They will use several identities to support and continue their dastardly deed. Blatant liars. There are several here and are obvious to those with eyes.

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                • Outlaw says:

                  Great explanation RR, to elaborate, this guy Barn Cat posts links to spoof sites and spreads it as true info. Check above. He is def a troll, but appears to be a govt paid one to spread disinfo.

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              • Road Runner says:

                Them Guys: Damn you made me fall out my chair laughing…great post…Mr. Kitty might be able to confirm it with another brilliant post…here kitty, kitty, kitty.

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              • Not so Much says:

                “You Project every single fault-guilt-idiocy-lunacy- you have onto Others”

                That’s kinda funny coming from a fucking nutbag like you that posts racist links DAILY how all the worlds problems are DEM DAM JEWS.

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                • Road Runner says:

                  Not so Much: Dem Dam Jews! You got it right! But it sounds better is you say those damn Talmudic Pharisaical Zionist Kabalistic fucking morons who hate Jesus Christ and want him boiled in hell…yea right you pea brain!

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              • john1028 says:

                Read Romans chapter 11, including

                26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

                27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

                This is not referring to Old Testament times, read the entire chapter in context.

                This chapter is also pretty clear about not considering yourself better than the Jews,

                21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

                The natural branches being the Jews.

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                • Road Runner says:

                  John 1028: dude you have flipped my switch for sure. You are so full of piss and lies your teeth float. You have no idea who fucking Isreal really is. You have no understanding truth if it bit you in the ass and grabbed your stinkin nose. Morons like you who have had there head up the ass of Dallas Theological asswipe teaching and Calgary Chapel BS and John fucking Hagee; take Judeo-Christian horsehit and go away you wanker. Your thinking is why millions of Christians have been tortured, dismembered and murdered. Your God is not mine dude you worship the Image of the Beast which is Israel. You follow the beast from the bottomless pit which was formulated and revived by the asshole Zionist, Cabalistic, Masonic demonic brotherhood of hell. You worship death and hell and have no idea what the scriptures mean nor do you have any understanding. Now come again and dig a deeper hole so I can respond again moron!

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                • john1028 says:

                  Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers.

                  Have I twisted that one? Did your God write that, or are you sort of doing your own ‘effing’ thing, listening to your own ideas? If you are going to pretend to discuss theology, at least pretend to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

                  You are allowed to hate Jews, for whatever reason you want, I still believe in the ideas that built this country, I won’t call you names or tear you down or curse you. You are free to believe anything you want, my friend.

                  You have no idea what I worship or what I’m full of, or what my head is up the ‘ass of’. You might not like like the content of Romans 9, 10, and 11, or you might choose to interpret it so it fits with your worldview, that’s fine with me, all I did was quote it.

                  Anyone can read it for themselves and decide what it means (I won’t even call them names if they come to a different conclusion). For you to read something I quoted from scripture with minimal commentary and decide you know everything about me, man, that’s pretty amazing.

                  Which part of what I posted was a lie?

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                • Road Runner says:

                  John 1028: You fucking hypocrite. You stick you nasty finger in my face and quote scripture then you immediately do the same thing…douchebag. You do not have a clue what corrupt communication is! You are a prime example of it fairy boy! You have no concept of blasphemy either! Keep kissing Jew ass, at least Paul had enough and told them to piss off. You on the other hand read scripture and understand 180 out of what it means…there are plenty of posts and internet info where you can begin to get your head out of your ass. When you do it will probably be too late.

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            • Them Guys says:

              Outlaw: Thank you for your compliment. I too enjoy Your posts as it is obvious you posess an element of wisdom and knowledge. Glad to see another wide awake patriot, awake to the true nature of americas ill’s and troubles.

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        • Road Runner says:

          Them Guys: Patton was continually frustrated by Eisenhour and the Commi Jew Roosevelt administration they hamstrung Patton at every turn. Eventually Patton came to understand who was behind it, and it cost him his life.

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          • Them Guys says:

            Yental: I truely appreciate that you liked my post on General Patton. I consider you one of the more knowlegable folks here based on your many prior, similar info posts regarding, as the Bible says it. “The Adversaries of God and of All mankind” Patton certainly discovered the factual truh of that biblical verse as his many remarks and diary entrys show!

            As to beware of trolls and disinfo fools etc. Yes I am well aware by now that we have a few here. I do believe that many more trolls and perhaps even mossad paid israeli and jewish “talk-backers” that several jewish newspapers and online sites a year ago bragged of hireing, a massive one quater of a Million paid shills and hasbaras to discredit-disrupt any such factual based truths revealing the real nature of the “Beast” aka zionists bolshie kommie jewish demons, may in fact visit here quite often to do their dirty work on posts such as mine on Patton. Maybe a few Glen Beck site folks also do the same. Becks site has many delusional
            neocon/ziolover/jewfirsters who call themselves jewdeo christians who always attack in “herds” like cattle anyone who trys to Educate the fools, and enhance their still limited amount of historical truth when it comes to their favorite satanic demonic devils they so do worship, along with that rabid state conected to their idols of awe.

            I hope you are correct that there are many folks here who want the truth….Thanks again.

            Road Runner: Yes Patton was as you said. I only wish I was able to Post a photo-copied from a website onto these reply posts. As I have found a Photo of the Actual West Point Grad class yearbook, with Eisenhowers graduation photo in it, and just like the many other west piont grads photos his also has some classmates penned/written farewell message inscribed next to Eisenhowers name and photo…It states(from memory so maybe not exact) “The Terrible Swedish Jew” or else its “The Terrible Jewish Swede”…Cannot recall which now?

            I guess either or fits swell as eisenhowers capitulations to communist and jewish msm media intrests as well as usa fed govnt commie insider men, as so well proven by General Pattons diary expose, and how one can Feel Pattons actual attitude and dissatisfaction and disgust of the whole events both at wars end, and afterwards even more so, just from reading it. It leads me to believe whoever signed that west point grad class yearbook also knew eisenhower as well and would never mention that if not truth(that eisenhower was a jewish swede).

            Bottom line for me is…I have always liked General Pattons historic heroisim’s etc. And after reading parts of his diary it only causes me to like and Honor Patton even More than I did prior to reading it!

            Patton IS Exactly what type Leadership America is sorely lacking today, imagiane if we had a Dozen Pattons today!!

            We’d be dealing out Harsh-Cowboy Justice, or as some folks calls it..Frontier Justice! Patton, one of The Greatest Military Generals the usa ever produced.

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            • Road Runner says:

              Them Guys and Yental: Even when truthful articles are posted you get the red thumbs…that shows the real story. Even though Patton does not directly related to EMP solar ejections, indirectly were all being frog-walked into a commie matrix of delusional self-destruction.

              EMP in and of itself is not frightening. What is are the fringe stories created to induce fear. In a sound society the infrastructure would be protected and repaired…but it isn’t; Why? But they are throwing this fear shit at as from all directions. If you got heat and food who gives a shit, but that is not the case. So…who is behind the deception and fear mongering? It is the same people who instigate wars, famines, depressions etc…they are the fucking shitheads Jews…the same fuck-ups that destroyed Patton and gave us the Jew Eisenhour. Eisenhour, the man who was promoted lightning fast over more competent Officers, to do the work of the Jew Oligarchy headquartered in the ‘Square Mile’ in London fucking England and the Jew Whitehouse. America has been suckered by these Jews and all the asshole trolls know it and do everything they can to trip us up and point us in a ‘oh shit’ direction of an EMP end of the world scenario. Rome burns they fiddle. yada yada yada… Incidentally Eisenhour was not top of class and jumped ranks in order to be placed where the Washingtonian Jew Tank could control the movement of the war to suit their diabolical ends. Russia was the key! Another Jew work of art. Screw you trolls. When men face the truth squarely on the devil hides his ugly ass until he can get the ascendancy again…the fucking trolls keep him in power! They are satans little helpers. Ninao knew it and now he is gone. eeeder know also. So go ahead and keep labeling those who try to free you from lies and deception as bigots and antisemites…

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            • t-zulu says:

              even if we had another Patton he would be quashed by the PC left and never go further than city council (regrettably) nuff said

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              • Them Guys says:

                T-zulu: I hear what you are saying of the leftist cabal etc. But Consider this, the one major thing patriots today lack in america is righteous sound leadership. Exactly like General Patton had and Was. A Leader who not only Knows truth, and Who the true enemy is makeing use of Their invention of communisim to destroy america same as They did to Russia 95 yrs ago. But a leader who is also Not afraid to speak Truth and tell PC leftists to screw off.

                Look at the Tea Party movement as an example of whats wrong today. The tea party folks had Over Two Million at their first ever march on DC.

                MSM etc never even mentioned nor showed it. But if it was 30 afrcian savages protesting against white folks? That would be ALL every damn MSM tv and newspapers spoke of…And spoke of for a few Months non stop!

                So why? I will tell you. Because the foolsih tea party folks choose to Listen to a couple bad advices. First they fell for FOX news-hannity type Carl Rove neocon crap that if tea partys never mention ANY negatives regarding african blacks…Then maybe 30 % blacks will Switch votes to vote neocon repubs!

                Thats the same I been hearing since I was 10 yrs old 50 yrs ago! “Just give them colords whatever they demand..And maybe they will finally leave us alone and stop the race card crap”. The Only slight difference today is “Maybe them colored folks will Vote repubs and help end the lib dems for good!”….BOTH are 100% Wrong on all acounts.

                When we start out with Good-Honesty-Righteousnes-Godly type attitudes-etc…Then we agree to “Compromize” with dems-liberals-africansavages-kommie jews-phony polititions-etc….Heres the end results.

                We began with the worlds Best cake recipie. All the best ingrediants etc…Then along comes some african cannible savage who says Lest make a deal! You put MY canibale parts into the Cake, and I wont Kill you nor loot and Burn down all You ever built!…What kinda Cake will we now bake with african ingrdiants added? We Had the best ever cake recipie…Had is key word there.

                A Little Leven Levens the Whole Lump…Bible verse Christ spoke. Know what that means Zulu?…I will Tell you.
                Leven=Yeast…Lump=Dough to make bread. Tiny bit yeast affects entire loaf.

                Beware the Leven (Sins) of the Pharisee!! aka Talmudic Jew preacher aka rabbi….Leven is the Rot-Evil-Falsehoods-mens doctrines that change Gods words into meaningless Junk designed to subvert Christians and turn them into COMPROMIZING idiot Fools…Who will be shocked when the books, the Book of LIFE are opened at Judgment day, and such foolish jewdeo christian zionists find that it is Their names that were BLOTTED Out from that book of Life!

                Due to Compromizeing with ungoldy and unrighteousness type folks….Seems Tea parts fell for such crap no.

                And finally heres why a general Patton is today so very needed. Whats the second major flaw tea partys did or believed in? I will tell you.

                Besides falling for hannity-carl rove-neocon craopla that has never worked in 50 yrs so far…Tea partys also fell for what I assume is an idea based on current Libertarian concepts that seem to be promoted non stop at most every patriot website…”LEADERLESS” revolution…Leaderless this and that…leaderless everything!

                It may seem like it sounds swell on Paper and in endless economic money therories daily debated in a circular never ends fashion…But in Real life in real world events…Can You or anyone else Picture a 3rd army Tank and infantry troops like Patton Commanded….Doing so great without Patton as their Leadership?!!

                Yeah ok lets have 500,0000 infantry troops armed ready to rock! Only this time lets all be our Own leaders!…Too many cooks and not enough waiters is a bad move yes…Worse yet is Millions of Patriots with zero Leadership. And thats the Worst, Biggest Mistake tea party folks made I believe. The first falsehood of act PC correct at all times especially on all issues african blacks was a bad mistake. Total weakness and Fear to Stand on Facts based attitude and speech etc..

                But falling for Leaderless resistance…Thats what really Ruined tea partys. Because due to zero leadership, not only did tea partys have a bunch of Highly Inexperienced people amassing in very large fashion to march on DC…

                Before the NY tea party of 20,000 or more even arive in NY…Fox-Hannity was already there set up and Stole the entire show. Hannity cared ONLY about Promoting a 3-4 yr old Book by Niel Boortz on Flat Tax issues. Which has as many problems potentials as todays tax systems almost.

                Within a couple months later, Most tea party folks decided “Lets rethink and try some leadership”

                Did they search out a General Patton type? any free speaker who is NOT PC type?…NO! They mostly all agreed to allow several who were waiting in the wings to promote quick elections of tea party “officers”…Who once made an Officer, fast took total control and began issueing commands to Tea party promotes MY plans or ideas and plans we the 4-5-Officers decided is best…As it turned out many such Tea Party “officials” are of the same tribe or Ilk as all msm are…Pro israel-pro War for israel-pro all issues jewsih-pro african black issues-SELF Hateing Whiteys Galore!

                But still NO real Patton type Leadership eh..Nope.

                If you doubt me go ask any real wised up Patrots who attempted to penetrate tea party regulars with flyers or written materials that Outline and Prove with full Documentation why all the issues I mentined above are the true things Destroying america and whiteys. Every one I met, at least a Dozen so far had same complaint.

                Real and Wised Up Patriot:” I tried! I really did Try! but every damn time and every damn tea party folks I spoke with as soon as they saw or heard a single negative word on issues related to israel or blacks or jewish issues, basically ignored me further, OR forced me to leave while calling me a hate monger-nazi-antisemite-etc etc.

                Zero Leadeship + Constant falling for all things Wrong and proven wrong and 50 yrs Failures worth, and trusting fox tv and hannity shills who care Only for personal book deals worth tens of millions(like Palins two books=$25 Million in one year)…They fell for every False patriot TV talker and false pastors galore like john hagee types.

                Without wised up Leadership to steer the entire group properly away from the neocon war monger jew firster hannity crowd…How many Tens or Hundreds of Millions of dollars and countless Hours were totally wasted in last few tea party yrs worth?

                Then due to NO leaders of any real worth or wisdom, tea party types again fell for…Glen Becks “Gotta keep the rally top secret but Trust Glens descision it promices to be great folks”!

                So after spending Tons of Cash for gasoline motels hotels foods for a DC trip(again!) what did the “patriots” get once arived at the Glen Beck Lincoln memorial events?

                I will Tell you what they got!

                They got an all day long swindle scam of Glen Beck-promoting every Pro israel-pro war for israel-Pro Martin “LOOTER” King-pro jewish-pro neocon-event. Where again 500,000 mostly white american middle class folks paid good money to travel to DC without a clue to whats going to happen since beck refused to say ahead of time(right cause beck Knew if he said it all will be rabbis and preachers black and white promoting all issues jewish or african black who’d show up?)

                Them Patroit mostly whiteys got a full day long craploa spew Royal of how whites need put aside differences so blacks will be Happy! and how all whiteys and patriots Must be Jews like glen beck claims he too now is!(he aint a real jew just a kinda pretend jew).

                I watched as much as I was able to without Pukeing on cspan live tv. I knew as soon as Glen told the crowd next speaker is Pastor John Hagee!….Fat ass Money worshiper and jew worshiper false pastor as can be.

                The cspan camaras scanned the massive crowd…Most you could see were not very happy to be swindled to go all the way to DC and attend a mass Rally promoting jews blacks israel neocon war hawks…Everything Except to Promote White america and Middle class usa folks.

                Ever since…Tea partys are near defunct. Still aint heard a word yet on maybe tea party needs REAL leadership such a a general Patton eh!…We wont har that neither because any such leader Must speak of Truth and Facts on the same israel and jew and black issues. Tea party majorty will do same as reg avg guys I spoke with. Tea party folks will BOOT the guy away asap if a single negative words spoken of those main issues. Sad. Really sad.

                So basically while the Leftists are as you said T-Zulu…it again will be from Inside tea partys or Patriots Movements that will destroy any Real Patton type leadership even if we had one sent from heaven with real live Angels of God flying him in!

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                • Road Runner says:

                  Them Guys: white middle class America is predominantly white protestants. That is the main target of Blacks, Jews and Mexican (la Raza and la conqista). We were also the target of NAFTA and GATT. All designed to destroy Middle Class America. Then add in reprobate Priests, Rabbis and Ministers who want to join with them and sing Cum By Ya around the campfire of Americas destruction. You get a volatile mix which is exactly what they are aiming for. They are doing it in Europe and in Russia also. They have created a volatile mix in Russia so the evil Jew Mafia Oligarchy based in Rothschild England can rule there and Putin is their boy. A return to Medieval society. I believe the NWO is a bundling of shit for the coming fire of Almighty God. All of it…All of it is directed at Jesus Christ. Poking our creator in the eye with a sharp stick…bad plan! But the Jew has been doing that to God ever since history has been penned. A rebellious people!

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                • Road Runner says:

                  Them Guys: I forgot to add. The air, water and food is now becoming so polluted because of Jews who “destroy the earth”; I hold out little hope for future generations and their health. The evil they are perpetrating against humanity and against Almighty God is over the top. There a now 10 reactors dumping shit into the air and Pacific Ocean by the tons. I cannot see life going on much longer UNLESS Almighty God intervenes and cleans up the garbage…This is leading me to believe God will have to create a New Heaven and Earth or intervene very soon because ‘no flesh will survive’ what they are doing to God’s creation. This is why there is a REAL HELL where the smoke of their torment goes up forever before Almighty God.

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              • Road Runner says:

                Tzulu: not if the white niggers would get off his knees and get some backbone…if the truth about Jews was everywhere you would see those scumbags crawl back under the rock they came out from under. Whitey nigger though has forgotten his God and worships some other asshole they call god but really is antichrist. If they ever found their backbone maybe God would give us a Patton again who would put the fear of God back in men.

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      • JayJay says:

        Oh, Stez, I can hear it already–Mom, I’m bored.
        Mom, can you find SOMETHING for us to do?

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        • Vicky says:

          After TSHTF, that won’t be a big problem. Children will come in handy as WORKERS, and won’t have as much free time as today, nor any “gadgets” on which to waste time.

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    10. sheptical citizen says:

      Just another doom & gloom possibility. It might be a good thing in the long run. I own a steam engine it would still work if I have fuel & water. My diesel tractor will still run if I roll start it. And I shure wont welcome the city folks tresspassing at my location. I will turn my own relatives away.

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      • Government Guy says:

        You have to sleep eventually. The government isn’t the only one tracking people. Ham radio licensees, for example, are being watched by people around them because they are assumed to be preppers and will become targets after a trigger event like this.

        You might want to have a conversation with some of those relatives.

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        • sheptical citizen says:

          My dogs sleep a lot. Often they sleep during the day. If anything is amiss they immediately wake up they start barking. A setting hen went to squaking and the dogs barking.2 AM I went out and a 6 foot black snake had crawled into her nest and was eating her eggs. He wont do that anymore times. And the geese are also great watch dogs. Ive got a 6 foot tall chain link fence. Ive got a really stinky very mean large billy goat that I keep in here at present. When Im out and about I go in the barn through the back and put sweet feed in the stable to entice him and lock him up. He can really butt hard. however if he just rubs on you the stink is horrible. Ive been thinking of getting a cow Buffalo (Bison) to let in here for a guard animal. A cow buffalo will stomp and gore anyone let alone a relative or a stanger. And It could raise a tasty beefalo calf every year. I wouldnt want to eat the billy goat.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Hail screen & putting the chickens in will take care of that. Had the same thing happen. Dogs were going nuts and couldn’t get in. 00 buckshot took care of it but took one of my chickens.

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            • sheptical citizen says:

              We fasten all of our poultry except for the geese up at nite. Those geese are so mean nuthin is foolhardy enough to attack them. Our henhouse is varmit proof but not snake proof. The nest are made from 5 gal plastic buckets. I just caught the snake by hand right behind its head,Took my knife and cut its head off. fed it to the pigs. My wife told me you know there is another one they always come in pairs. A few days later I killed its mate. It way trying to climb up the side of the barm to get a nest of barn swallows.

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          • JustMe says:

            Goats look an awful lot like Great Danes when cooked…

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          • JayJay says:

            Gosh, shep, and I was proud of my car panic remote button.
            :-)

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          • dave in Id says:

            You had better research cross breeding bison with a cow. Seems there are birthing problems. I read somewhere they all have to be c sections.

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            • sheptical citizen says:

              Thanks for the info. My bull is a black angus. they are devolped to sire low birthweight calves. they have small heads and are hornless. Maybe There wouldnt be any problems? There Is a guy near mansfield mo the sells bison calves and bison eat. baby calves sell for about $250.oo. My milk cow is a good nurse cow she could easily raise it.

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            • sheptical citizen says:

              Thanks for the info. My bull is a black angus. they are devolped to sire low birthweight calves. they have small heads and are hornless. Maybe There wouldnt be any problems? There Is a guy near mansfield mo the sells bison calves and bison eat. baby calves sell for about $250.oo. My milk cow is a good nurse cow she could easily raise it.

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              • Using a black angus bull is what I would do. The only problem we had with the black angus is that they like to put their head under the bottom wire of the fencing and lift it up, stretching it out. Grass is always greener on the other side… We had a fabulous black angus cow. She would let other babies feed off her. We would buy day old dairy calves. She accepted as many as could hang on. One would also be nursing under her tail – between her back legs. I guess that’s where the saying comes from, sucking hind tit. Would get dirty sometimes.

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                • sheptical citizen says:

                  Yep its unblieveable that My 1500 lb bull would crawl under chain link fence. The only soluton was to place logs fastened to the bottom or a electric wire a foot above the ground and 6 inches from the fence.

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    11. Watchdog says:

      Well then…. Prepare or Die.

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    12. Highspeedloafer says:

      The writer of this story said “It could happen a month from now or 10 years from now during the next solar maximum cycle. What we know is that it has happened before, and it will happen again.,

      “This may be a dumb question but I’ll ask anyway.

      Exactly when will the danger pass in this cycle of solar flares?

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      • pissinwiththewind says:

        Howdy Highspeedl…,

        Just wondering if you have noticed or heard of all the solar energy farms being put up in the Tarheel? We see the big one near I-40 in Catawaba county when we go to the city occasionally. I think you are kinda near there.

        Talked to a lady this morning at the cafe that has a son working full time with one of the companies putting up the panels. She says none are on less than 30 acre tracts.

        Isn’t it ironic, the major (only) electric utility company in this state, is buying the electricity cheaper than ever, yet they have been increasing rates every year. Those crooks will have a bad day when they meet their maker.

        PWTW.

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        • The Old Coach says:

          They are forced to buy expensive electricity from the “renewable sources” by federal edicts. That’s why your rates go up. That and, around here, they’re being forced by the EPA to shut down perfectly good coal-burning power plants that are fully amortized and therefor cost very little to run.

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        • Highspeedloafer says:

          Yeah, I’ve seen a few. There is one going in in Cleveland county and its big. Gotta keep google up and running I guess.

          Talk about a monopoly, Duke energy is sure making it tough on the little guy. As of this moment I’m with a rural co-op, and just got a refund check back for overestimation of my equalized billing plan. WooHoo!

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          • pissinwiththewind says:

            Yea, the co-ops buy from Duke. In 1996 we had a deal going with some co-ops to install our Peak Load Distributors in their customers homes and businesses.

            When Dukey Electric Co. got wind of it; they told the Electric Cooperatives, we will just go up on your rates if you reduce overall demand.

            Now, isn’t that ironic, since they (Duke) preach conservation and spend millions each year trying to convince the public that they want to reduce overall demand.

            They will even give you a dollar credit each month to install “their” switches that “they” control with a radio switch to shut down your A/C and Water Heater if they have a “peak” that needs controlling.

            With our switch, you never are without Hot water or A/C.

            My Dad fell for their bullshit, even after I told him he would regret it. About a year after he let them install the switch, and had saved a grand total of $12.00 for the year; he got to take ‘two’ cold showers one month and then came home to a ‘hot and stuffy’ house with the outside temp at 98.
            He was pissed as hell and called them. Some lady got a cussing and the switch was removed the next week.

            With the “extra” electricity used to heat up all the cold
            water from the two “shutoffs” and the “extra” hours the A/C pump had to work to get the house cooled back down from being off for six hours in the heat of the day; the old man was in the hole from his big $12.00 credit for that year. Some folks have to learn the hard way, that the electric companies are not on the side of the consumer. To the contrary, they are in bed with the crooks in the gov.

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    13. Hedge says:

      On a happier note, Vlad Putin tells chimp in charge to pound sand up nearest handy orifice as Ed Snowden is granted a 1 year Russian asylum. Wonder how the butt lick press corp will attempt to put a happy face on this one…….

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    14. I usually check space weather.com everyday. I was on vacation and took a break from everything. I helped my parents prepare more. It seems like there is a 1% chance everyday of a major solar flare.
      People think we are crazy, but it’s better to be ready for anything then be caught with your pants down.

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    15. Satori says:

      Russian roulette is a very good way to describe the situation

      from 2004
      Biggest ever solar flare was even bigger than thought
      http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=13844

      1 in 8 Chance of Catastrophic Solar Megastorm by 2020
      http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/massive-solar-flare/

      Solar storm aftermath? $2 trillion in fixes
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/solar-storm-aftermath-2-trillion-in-fixes/

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    16. Faith of the fallen says:

      I wish we would have a world wide reset. I’d just saddle up my horse and live the easy life.

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      • Barn Cat says:

        Good luck living the easy life when the technology is back to 1850 levels.

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        • Faith of the fallen says:

          I have a farm with 100 head of cattle. My grandpa was a wealth of info and I can rope and ride, shoot, and grow anything. I have a old allis chambers tractor my grandpa gave me that would run thru an EMP situation. I’ll be alright as long as the city folk stays the hell away.

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          • HisArmsWide says:

            Unless you have a doctor, dentist, midwife, gyno, etc on staff, it’ll be far from easy.

            Dying at 60, third world infant and mother mortality rate, a pair of pliers to ‘fix’ the last of your teeth by 40, the list goes on and on.

            Have as a people survived such things? Of course. As a people. But your individual chances of living to a healthy ripe old age to play with all your grandchildren, not just the few that survived childbirth and childhood diseases go down dramatically the worse the conditions.

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    17. Archivist says:

      “A Carrington Event flare would exceed X10 Class, making it thousands of times more powerful than an X1″

      Actually it would be more like a trillion times more powerful.

      I haven’t received any notices of solar flares since July 7 from http://www.ips.gov.au.

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      • sixpack says:

        I wonder if a genny, maybe a couple of other smaller items could survive a solar flare/EMP if they were stored in a well grounded aluminum enclosure/shed.

        Maybe even pour a concrete slab in it, and set the items up on old tires w/o rims, for insulation. The idea is to absorb the pulse with the enclosure and drag it into an earth ground, while keeping the items insulated from the electrical charge.

        Ideas?

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        • eagle eye says:

          Disconnect the regulator module and bury it in a sealed steel box in damp dirt.

          Take careful note of all connections and then short all the windings together and connect them to the frame of the genny. Connect the frame of the genny to an earth stake driven into damp dirt.

          Enclose the genny in a conducting enclosure and connect the enclosure to the same earth stake.

          That should do it.

          Motor Rewinder.

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          • sixpack says:

            any time I have to work on something complicated, I take a detailed ‘before’ pic of the connections for reference later…saves loads of headaches for me. Thanks for the good idea.

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        • A Christian man says:

          Build a Faraday Cage around whatever electrical or Electronic equipment or parts that you desire to save from a EMP or CME.

          In most cases even a metal garbage can (CLEAN) will protect electronics from EMP and CME’s.

          Just a word to the wise for folks really wanting to learn something.

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        • BackSpace says:

          Whatever you do..

          “Do Not” connect to a grounding rod!

          Create a “bubble” that the charged particles “flow around”

          The ground will redistribute the charged particles thru any conductor. ie. your buried box.

          BS

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    18. peter parker says:

      I know, prep for the worst and hope for the best. My wife is totally and completely beset with nomalacy bias, which leads to constant criticism of my efforts, sighs, and looks of derision. It makes me think that if the SHTF, I’ll finally hear: “I’m sorry Peter, you were right and I was wrong.” I don’t know which scenario is more likely, anymore.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Your not alone, i get that too, the eye rolls and the, “ok were done talking about that” get a little old.

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        • TheGuy says:

          Nice fishbowl we got here.

          Bummer about fish bowls, it only takes a tiny bit of ammonia to screw ‘em up.

          The more complex it is, the more breakable.

          I’d prep. Shrug… are you out something by doing it? A few worthless consumables and a few pizza deliveries?

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          • As I have told anyone who will listen, “you have NOTHING to lose by prepping and EVERYTHING to lose by not”. It isn’t rocket science….

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      • Vicky says:

        Oh, wow….. So sorry. Doesn’t she realize you’re doing it for her? My husband and I are trying hard to take care of each other and the effort is mutually appreciated. I don’t know that I’d have the drive to do all of what we do if he wasn’t on board, as well.

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      • pissinwiththewind says:

        Life is a bitch, when two are not equally yoked.

        Lived with that for ten years, with my first wife.
        Looked for “the one” for ten years without luck.
        Gave up looking for ten years.
        Found one and been equally (or as best as I can hope for) yoked now for ten years. She is onboard with prepping and how we can best cope with a total collapse.

        Sure makes life a little more bearable. Thank you Lord!

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        • Archivist says:

          I found “the one” about 30 years ago. Just a few nights ago we worked on a list of things to stock up on the next time we get to Sam’s. Peanut butter, TP, sugar, etc.

          We’re trying to decide on where to put chickens next. They need to be far enough away so we can’t smell them or step in it, but close enough to keep them safe from local animals. We have an old chicken house that’s partly gone, and a biddy house that had been converted into a small shop many years ago. I think I can convert the biddy house into a chicken house big enough for 8 or 10 hens.

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          • JayJay says:

            Sam’s is free for non-members this weekend–I read on a prepper site.
            YMMV.

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          • Smokey says:

            Better off building a new one, on a slab you can hose off, with a drain channel to outside collector for garden fertilizer. You need minimum of 24 hens to feed a family in eggs and meat, and enough to trade for desired items. Need enough space for the poultry and feed storage as well.

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    19. Kulafarmer says:

      Cool, guess i can forget about bills if this ever happens! All my expenses are related to business or technology so my expenses would disappear, dont need a car or fuel or electricity to grow food, and dont have anything else really that i couldnt live without! Food, water, shelter,,,,
      Got it.
      Protection,,,,
      Got it.
      Dont need much else really.

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    20. 11011110000 says:

      EMP threats are very real, but chances are it will be a man made EMP event…….not a solar flare.

      Maybe it’s just me, but all the media chatter on solar flares reminds me of all the terrorism chatter prior to 9-11.

      History tells us that all fiat currencies eventually fail. Anyone with their eyes open can see that we, along with other countries, are about to be part of that history. There is no stopping the collapse of the dollar. The bankers and their puppet politicians who are responsible for this economic collapse will never accept responsibility for the mess they created. They need a great distraction!

      Will that distraction be an EMP from a nuke? It’s quite possible in my mind.

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      • 11011110000 says:

        Okay…..back to the basics, some items to consider:

        * A wood fired rocket stove for cooking, canning, etc
        * Wood heater for the house
        * Lots of paper based knowledge for referencel
        * Shovel, rake and hoe for gardening
        * Axe and 2 man saw to collect and split wood for
        heating / cooking
        * Manual flour grinder
        * Bike for transportation
        * Non-hybrid seed
        * Water filter and/or shallow well hand pump
        * GUNS and AMMO
        * Knives and sharpening stones
        * Chickens, goats, rabbits, etc…
        * Food supplies (whole wheat, oats,
        powdered eggs/milk, seasoning,
        canned goods, sugar, salt, etc)
        * Candles
        * Medical Kit
        * Extra soap
        * Water bath / Canner and lots of jars/lids
        * Solar Dehydrator

        Much more can be added, but this will hopefully get the complacent folks thinking.

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      • CWinOR says:

        Here’s an interesting site:
        http://www.n2yo.com/?s=39026

        You can track the Nork’s satellite, which as yet has an unknown or undisclosed payload (though they say it’s for “weather research”). Pay attention to it’s altitude. The experts on EMP’s have said the ideal altitude for an EMP attack would be ~300 miles.

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    21. DaytonaMatt says:

      This possibility is with us always, not just during solar maximum. Also, Red China perfected a non-nuclear EMP device around 2010-2011. This is my ultimate shtf scenario. I try to open eyes with just the most basic of facts, I stop when their eyes glaze over. Useless. I would like to think I would go on and check out if this ever happens. I don’t want to practice mass cannibalism, and I don’t think it would be worth trying to ride out just to die from a small wound with no antibiotics. This is on par with full scale nuclear war. But we here at least, have a tenacious will to live!

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      • DaytonaMatt says:

        Continued, I’ve done a hell of a lot of research on this nightmare and I believe 90 percent is optimistic. Unless of course, our good “friends” Russia or Red China sent “humanitarian” personel! Read a book named War Day. It deals with nuclear war, but is very accurate for both scenarios. Let’s hope we never see this, but let’s prep as if it’s immenant!
        Standing ready in Daytona

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        • Prepared Pastor says:

          That number is too broad to be of any use. In densely populated areas it might by 99, while in remote areas it may only be 50. It really doesn’t matter what the death rate is if you are among it. The important things are 1) get to a place with the best odds, and 2) do everything possible to improve your individual odds.

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        • Vicky says:

          If you haven’t already, check out “The Patriot Nurse” website and buy a good PDR. You can prepare yourself to handle many diseases. Thomas Labs has an online pharmacy which sells fish antibiotics, the same strength and purity as human antibiotics. Keep up with your tetanus and pneumonia shots, plus DPT if you can get it, and you’re at least somewhat protected from some of the big killers. In passing, we’ve finally managed to remove all of our carpeting down to the hardwood floors which should help if/when our daughter, son-in-law and their asthmatic children come to live with us. I classify that as a preventative health measure and am glad to have it out of the way. Without a vacuum, dust and dirt, mold and mildew will make an unhealthy environment for everyone, not just those with allergies. I’ve also switched out the curtains for blinds which can be dusted every day. My lucky find of the year is a 25-gallon iron pot in which I can do laundry. Found this at a garage sale and I felt as guilty about buying it for $50 as I would if it were a Renoir sold by mistake. I did tell the (elderly) couple that they could scrap it out for more money, but they were almost as anxious to get rid of it as I was to get it. ??? What does anyone know about “felling” saws? We cut our own wood, but use chain saws, the fuel for which may not be available later on.

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          • jerrytbg says:

            “check out “The Patriot Nurse”

            Great source…love that woman!
            Her knowledge base will probably save many many lives after the culling…

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        • Night breaker says:

          good book , I got a used hardback copy , it is an interesting read regardless.
          On another note TEOTWAWKI blog is posting a short trailer from the up coming move LIGHTS OUT based on the book.

          Semper Fi 8541

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        • lastmanstanding says:

          Thanks for the heads up DM…used to hang at the “north turn” every winter long ago…

          Standing ready in the Rockies.

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          • DaytonaMatt says:

            Last Man, aahhh memories! You wouldn’t recognize this town! North Turn is still here, doing good business too! Take care out there! Matt
            Standing ready in Daytona

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      • TheGuy says:

        A wait a what???

        … wait you can’t do that… how’d they do that???

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      • CWinOR says:

        man…i HATE it when their eyes glaze over! in my early days of prepping and before i perfected my soap-box delivery technique…i very often missed the eye-glaze, until i first noticed the drool coming out of their sideways-tilted heads1 AWKWARD! my technique now? i keep it to myself. too tired of being thought of as the off-his- nut town crier. and it’s become too dangerous well.

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        • Vicky says:

          Yes…. It’s amazing how much I’ve “shut up” as both a precautionary measure and an ego thing.

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          • Mountain Trekker says:

            Well done Vicky! As it says in Proverbs Chap.17 vs 27-28 He that hath knowledge spareth his words: and a man of understanding is of an excellent spirt.- Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise:and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.— If only I could heed this advice. Trekker Out.

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    22. FactChecker says:

      It didn’t happen.

      “SPACE WEATHER FACT CHECK: Many readers are asking about a report in the Washington Examiner, which states that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous. The possibility of such a storm is, however, worth thinking about: A modern Carrington event would cause significant damage to our high-tech society.”

      http://www.spaceweather.com/

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      • DaytonaMatt says:

        Fact Checker, I agree with you. I hadn’t heard anything either.
        Standing ready in Daytona

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        • Vicky says:

          You know, on a purely psychological level, it’s reassuring to see “standing by in Daytona” from “DaytonaMatt”, as well as “Watchman”, “Last Man Standing—-Standing Ready in the Rockies”, “Be Informed”, “Braveheart”, “Durango Kid” (my heroes have always been cowboys) as well as several other Site Names. “Trekker Out” can bring tears to my eyes for some reason. Maybe we all need to know we’re not alone in this fight.

          Standing by in NW Ohio

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          • Them Guys says:

            Vicky: Them Guys are Standing By Everywheres! We are them guys Your Mother Warned you about!(or she should have!)…

            Them Guys: We Are Many!

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      • Satori says:

        perhaps this is what they were talking about

        NASA Spots Fast Moving Solar Flare

        http://www.offthegridnews.com/2013/07/25/nasa-spots-fast-moving-solar-flare/#

        “A coronal mass ejection (CME) was spotted by NASA on July 22. CME eruptions on the sun can cause billions of solar particles to hurl into space, impacting electrical systems here on Earth. The recent CME spotted by NASA’s Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory (STEREO) revealed that the fast-moving solar flare was thankfully not directed at the planet. The solar eruption left the sun at around 715 miles per second and made a pass around NASA’s STEREO-A spacecraft.”

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      • jerrytbg says:

        oh Yea…it would decimate it!

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      • Norse Prepper says:

        Agreed. I knew nothing of this until the article posted on Drudge. I don’t believe it, but anything that has happened in nature in the past will happen again, just when is the question.

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    23. ProfSuzi says:

      Why does SpaceWeather.com state today that no such Carrington event happened two weeks ago? Who is right/wrong on this one. SpaceWeather is very explicit in saying this
      DID NOT happen.

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    24. Practically Everything relies on electricity, and they don’t have have backup transformers? He said it will take 1-2 years to replace….if that’s true then it just proves that knowledge and wisdom are two separate things.
      It doesn’t matter how much you know if you don’t know what to do with that knowledge.
      Epic fail

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      • Archivist says:

        It’s true. They aren’t even made here anymore. I read somewhere that someone tried to replace one of the really big transformers as a test. The first thing they found was that the railroad was gone that had delivered the original transformer. So they had no way to deliver a new one. So they had to figure out how to get two smaller ones to work. That may turn out to be the case in many areas. Even if the replacements were built, they couldn’t be delivered. A lot of the old railroad tracks around here have been ripped up for recycling. The ties and rock are there, but the steel is gone.

        I think if the situation were studied, it might be that very inefficient transformers could be cobbled together from available materials just to get some electricity distributed. The waste heat might even be captured with a heat exchanger.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Sorta like Taggart transcontinental eh?

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          • Archivist says:

            That book took me longer to read than any I can remember. I bought Atlas Shrugged in 1970, but just got around to reading it a few years ago.

            “That your Taggart Bridge is gone. Gone. Blasted to bits. Sound-ray explosion or something. Nobody knows exactly. Only there ain’t any bridge any more to cross the Mississippi. There ain’t any New York any more–leastways, not for folks like you and me to reach.”

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    25. Satori says:

      if the sun don’t get us
      maybe Fukushima will

      Fukushima: Worse than You Know
      http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-08-01/fukushima-worse-you-know

      they aren’t anywhere near getting that under control
      its gonna contaminate the planet for decades

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      • kynase says:

        I was just reading this article. Very scary stuff. And wouldn’t you know, MSM is all quiet on the western front. Quite frankly, if there was a serious radioactive contamination rolling up the west coast, I don’t think we’d hear much about it until it was too late to do anything. Makes me not want to take my kiddos to the beach for the rest of the summer. :(

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          I agree, seafood! Im not touching anything resembling a tuna! Blue fin, Yellow fin, bummer, i love sashimi and sushi, but with the FDA changing the rules constantly, no confidence……

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        • In my opinion, the worst time to go to the coast would be when it is raining. The rain would bring down more contamination. I won’t even go into the symptoms I was experiencing when I was living on the north OR coast about 1 1/2 yrs ago. I wasn’t alone with problems either. I do believe that there is a lot being hidden.

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    26. Satori says:

      Time for Action to Counter EMP!

      http://highfrontier.org/july-16-2013-time-for-action-to-counter-emp/

      “The Post discussed a recent study by Lloyds of London, which was presented at a well-attended international conference in Washington. Lloyds concluded, among other things, that if a major emission impacting the northeastern U.S. were to knock out 20 of our high voltage transformers the consequences could be “extremely concerning,” and 40-million people living in the Northeast might have to go without power indefinitely. It would take many months or years to replace the key transformers, which are not produced in the U.S”

      alright
      now I am REALLY worried
      when the insurance companies get involved thats serious !!!

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    27. CrabbeNebulae says:

      Off topic… probably more appropriate for one of the most recent SHTF articles but I couldn’t help posting this link. This made my brain sizzle. Maybe everyone should start start googling “pressure cookers” and “backpacks”. The article at the link below shows the ruling cocksuckers have gone off the deep end. Fuckem!!!

      http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/08/government-knocking-doors-because-google-searches/67864/#.UfqCSAXy7zQ.facebook

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    28. FriendPrep says:

      No one ever seems to mention the nuclear plants when they talk about EMPs or solar flares. When the electrical grid goes down, so do the plants. They have generators, but those won’t last more than a couple weeks at best. After that, it’s game over, no matter how prepped you are. Unless you’re one that has an underground bunker with years of provisions. If we have nationwide, or global meltdown, I’m not going to bother fighting anymore…

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    29. mikeincanada says:

      You know all of those third world countries that we tend to feel so bad for all the people having to live in those conditions. The places they haul their water from long distances, have no electricity to speak of, hunt, gather food, live off the land when they can. If this event ever were to happen don’t you think the western world and Europe etc. would be much further back? Just thinking they probably wouldn’t even notice. I don’t know I’m just kind of thinking out loud. We have become so spoiled and lazy that even people like myself who think we are more prepared than the masses of sheeple would still struggle without all of our power run tools and toys. I play this game with my grandson, who can live without electronic junk the longest. Of course I win because I actually remember life without all those things. However that being said it would still be a tough adjustment. God Bless and ya’ll take care out there.

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    30. Fed up with Feds says:

      Question,
      I hope this isn’t a dumb question,but I just don’t know.
      If a solar flare hits earth,and we USA are facing away,or opposite side of the sun when it hits,
      Would we still be affected?

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    31. SilverSax says:

      There’s a book called “One Second After” by William Forstchen which deals with survival after an EMP. It’s worth the cost.

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    32. Getting back to basics would be good for america. Too many are arrogant and prideful. I’d say a scenario like that would bring haughty spirits down a couple of notches. It would be rough, but good for all of us at the same time. Remember folks lived without this stuff allot longer than with it!

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    33. Getting back to basics would be good for america. Too many are arrogant and prideful. I’d say a scenario like that would bring haughty spirits down a couple of notches. It would be rough, but good for all of us at the same time. Remember folks lived without this stuff allot longer than with it!

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    34. king krazy says:

      EMP/solar flare field expedient question, can you take a space blanket and put over your generator then ground the ends to protect it?

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    35. Jim in Va. says:

      Anybody want to start a Faraday Cage business?

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    36. warchild says:

      I actually saw a fair amount of articles the last month about high solar flare activity and many talked about EMP disruption.I am really not sure a more larger scale warning would help much,look at storms were folks lined up for days for gas for cars/generators afterwards who had many days of warning,being prepared for any natural/man made disaster about the best you can do ahead of time.I suppose a faraday cage with some small radio/laptop to play information discs with a small solar charger might be a nice addition.Have come to conclusion I need more ink cartridges and reams of paper,want knowledge on a real hard surface that might down road be helpful.

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      • Archivist says:

        For large scale printing, it will be more cost effective for you to buy a business type laser printer capable of printing thousands of pages per month. Toner cartridges print more for the money than ink cartridges do. And the laser printer is much faster than inkjet, which matters a lot when you have a mass of printing to do before SHTF. Also remember to use the toner saver feature if available. File folders and used filing cabinets are more economical storage than notebooks, unless you can get a load of used ones free. Make sure the paper is acid free for longer life. For things that you will refer to repeatedly, use sheet protectors.

        I personally have a Brother HL-5240. I have had it a few years, and it has printed tens of thousands of pages.

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    37. Sally says:

      Get those faraday bags if you don’t have them…

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      • jerrytbg says:

        You could make your own with alum tape and a shoe box…
        total contact of all external surfaces…
        Only good for those things that would be of service without the grid…

        It’s been proven that the conductive material doesn’t have to be thick…just total coverage.

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    38. RickInOregon says:

      Off topic alert:

      Tuna fishing report. I crewed on a private sport boat, 23′ Parker. We fished from the Port of Newport Oregon. There was four of us, I ran the back deck and had two rookies with me. We boated 33 albacore before 10:30 in the morning then the bite died off. We tried until 3 pm with only adding a couple more to the count. They averaged around 22 pounds with a couple that were around 30 pounds.

      I just started canning my catch share. I use a pressure canner and process them in pint and half pint jars. I put the raw meat in the jar with some sliced jalapeno peppers and a pinch of kosher salt. Cook them at 11 pounds pressure for 110 mins. I’ve been processing it this way for years and I’ve eaten jars that were older than 5 years. I don’t know what the actual shelf life is but the 5 year old canned tuna still had years of shelf life left.

      below is a little fishing vid that always gets my adrenaline pumping.

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    40. BlackDog says:

      Relax. Buy an electrical harness for your primary auto (probably your 4×4 truck), add portable radios like cb, ssb, 2-meter, weather, and world band, and any other electronic device or wiring harness you think you just can’t live without (x-box comes to mind), and put them all in one or more of these: http://tinyurl.com/nhq23u3 Make sure the lids are tight, and put them away in a cool, dry place. Don’t open them, don’t fifo/lifo them. Just wait for the EMP. Because those $25 garbage cans are just about the best damn Farraday Cages available. Oooo, don’t forget popcorn for teotwawki!

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    41. jerrytbg says:

      Sorry but I’m not even spell ck this…

      “The original Carrington event is estimated to have been larger than an X10 Class flare – a super solar flare
      .”Absolutely no doubt!!!!

      “In November of 2003 an X28 Class solar flare – the largest ever recorded – narrowly missed earth.”

      How about the X40 plus, shortly after…don’t know the exact date…
      The point is: You wouldn’t be reading this if it had hit us!!!!!

      OK…we all know there are some very bizzare “things” happening of late
      This is the “change” that I’ve been harping on….or part of it…

      While doing the research of the expanding topic of earth change, I came across an animation of our solar system occilating through the ecliptic of the galaxy…From Cornell U. … OMG…
      To me it looked just like AC voltage on an ociliscope…
      It was acknowledged in this research that this takes some 26,000 years for a FULL cycle…

      FYI… the oldest documented civilization I’ve found is some 12,500 years ago…

      Do the math…up…down…thru…down…up…

      TPTB want to be on top when the “REAL” SHTF…

      And that doesn’t even touch the culling of the population as a food source…topic for another day.

      Prepare!!!

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    42. ZombieDawg says:

      “And that doesn’t even touch the culling of the population as a food source…topic for another day.”

      Matt Savinar (late) already did that one – using the dead as fuel/food.
      Countless zombie films did the living version.

      Skip the fat people – gotta go for the bubble-butt gym babes. Much tastier ;-)

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    43. Forrest says:

      I’m beginning to think we aren’t going to get out of this alive– our civilization, I mean. I think by the end of this century, we’re cooked!

      Problem is, all the stuff scientists predict (converging crises) are supposed to occur exponentially faster and faster (not talking about EMT events, or whatever, just the usual stuff- running out of drinkable water, oil, climate chaos, etc).

      Anyhow, they say these things will happen exponentially faster– not linearly. What does that mean? Well, if you’re in a football field and 2 drops of water are squirted into your hand, and this occurs exponentially faster, every minute, then you have 4 drops, then 16 drops, then 256 drops, etc. And there are 2 people at the top of the bleachers, tied up. How long before these people are under water? Less than an hour. At first, the amount of water is very small. However, around the last 5 minutes, the amount is prodigious. That’s how exponential growth occurs.

      Another example: you live on the coast and you know (hopefully!!) that there will much more rain, precipitation, flooding due to global climate change. But it isn’t really that bad yet and although its getting worse, you figure you got at least a couple more years yet to get out of dodge. But you’re thinking in linear terms! And all the experts say that the crises we’re all facing are occurring at an exponentially faster rate. So you don’t have much time– to prepare for economic collapse, climate collapse, water table collapse, or oil fields collapse. Its only at the last 5 minutes til midnight that all hell breaks loose. We’re used to thinking in linear terms– a linear timetable and it ain’t happening like that!!! And THAT’S the problem!!

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      • jerrytbg says:

        Maybe so…but it’s worth repeating, I would add a twist…
        What if the galaxy is teeming with life…and some of them know the cycle…our cycle…just a what if…

        Could be a different reason for all this apparent madness…
        just sayin’

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      • A Christian man says:

        Life is a Terminal Disease!

        No one gets out Alive!

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    44. smattering says:

      So what does this mean for any solar power equipment IF I choose to get any? Is it toast too? (Serious Question)

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      • Night breaker says:

        Solar equipment should be fine if you remove any cabling that may act as an antenna to concentrate the charge. Any solid state charge controllers should be shielded or placed in a faraday cage. Disconnect any sensitive equipment from commercial power when not in use.
        Any equipment containing semi conductors are extremely vulnerable to EMP. A metal trash can with a tight fitting lid , line the can with cardboard , should be enough to shield small electronics and foldable small solar panel systems. The damage is proportional to the frequency and duration of the pulse, any long runs of metal or cabling act as an induction coil transferring the charge to ground. alternately you can also use EMP bags in addition to faraday caging for additional protection. in the end this is all theoretical as very little testing has been performed with modern technology. The last tests performed were during the “Starfish Prime ” nuclear program during the early 1960′s before the Nuclear weapons in space test ban. technology has progressed immensely since that time.

        Semper Fi 8541

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    45. Dee in NC says:

      Off tropic but I just read a short article in MSM that a lot of our embassies and consulates will be closed on Sunday in the middle east, north Africa and south Asia. No other info was given except that there was a creditable terrorist threat.

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    46. Forrest says:

      NO- It ain’t toast too. Leave the city, get some land, maybe few solar panels for electricity during summer months and small, micro hydro electrical system for winter months, when not much sun for solar panels. You can build cobb house for $1,000 to $30,000– not that expensive. You can live debt free this way, off the grid. Get good book on perma culture so as to have abundance of food with little work involved. Maybe few chickens out back, tripod– for aqua culture (fish), some fruit/nut trees and plum trees, some grape vines.

      Some places have community style arrangement where they share the forested areas (where all the fruit and nut trees grow) and then have their own little house and garden, perhaps a compost toilet.

      Unrepentantcowboy

      donhenryfordjf.blogspot.com/

      3 days ago … If you support the NSA indiscriminately collecting private information on American citizens, then grow the balls to publicly repeal the fourth …
      Financial Business

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      • king krazy says:

        The thing with owning land is unless it is TEOTWAWKI the local gov is still going to want their taxes. You really don’t own property unless you can keep it.

        ;)

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    47. Forrest says:

      Unrepentantcowboy

      donhenryfordjf.blogspot.com/

      3 days ago … If you support the NSA indiscriminately collecting private information on American citizens, then grow the balls to publicly repeal the fourth …
      Financial Business

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    48. TheGuy says:

      Awww look… nothing happened…

      http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?7553-EMP-does-NOT-effect-most-autos-everything-else-you-ever-wanted-to-know-on-EMPs

      Well, to CARS at least. They’ve actually tested it.

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      • Dave in Id says:

        Quite a bit of equipment is shielded at power houses, microwave/radio transmission buildings and most vehicle ecm’s. Transformers are still built in the usa and small ones (dry type) are pretty simple to construct. The oil filled ones look like some might survive by the construction design. Too much doom and gloom. I think most rural preppers will survive without too much problem other than a whole lot of hard work such as cooking with wood, washing by hand, gardening, pumping/hauling water by hand. There are people living VERY remote that only come out to get supplies such as fuel, sugar, matches and TP. If they couldnt get those items, they would still be just fine. If they can grow sugar beets, they could make the fuel (and drink it too!). I know someone who has NO grid, running water, almost no income (barters veggies and picks/sells huckleberries) and no generator, and seems to be just fine. All they have is a small cabin with a wood stove, near by creek, outhouse, root cellar, and garden. The city preppers will have alot more challenges as they have to store everything and protect it 24/7. They really need a group of about 3-5 adults if possible. One dog can take the place of 2 adults for perimeter security if neccessary. People will help each other in a disaster as they have in the past. No Mad Max, Book of Eli scenery, more like a Gunsmoke or Quigly Down Under. Yes, alot of people will die just like they have throughout history, and probably more as the gov has created a dependancy class like never before. My grandmother, rest her soul, had 13 brothers and sisters. Only 4 survived past the age of 18. Times were rough, and it is going to get rough again. In my Opinion.

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    49. Be informed says:

      I am so out of it I completely forgot the day August 1, That is now in the window of Israel attacking someone like they have the past several months in the 10 day bracket in between the new moon. Last month Israel attacked the Syrian naval base during this window. This month is it today, August 1 to August 11. One of these times Israel is going to attack and kill a lot of Hezbollah and they are going to start lobbing rockets into Israel and the whole Middle East will be on fire. This is something to watch Until August 11. The new moon is August 6, an ominous day every year. Ramadan ends the next day and frees up Israel to attack even more so without looking like they are disrespectful about a muslim holiday. Something to watch.

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    50. There are almost 8 billion souls on the planet. Imagine if we had crop loss from weather, then an emp, then a pandemic, a freak snow storm in june.

      Aw…I’ll go back to watching porn. ha
      Relax…I’m good.

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    51. Taken from spacweather.com “SPACE WEATHER FACT CHECK: Many readers are asking about a report in the Washington Examiner, which states that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous.”

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    52. sheeple says:

      SPACE WEATHER FACT CHECK: Many readers are asking about a report in the Washington Examiner, which states that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous. The possibility of such a storm is, however, worth thinking about: A modern Carrington event would cause significant damage to our high-tech society.

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    53. Be informed says:

      The earthquakes seem to be a bit delayed this cycle as August 1 is the 15 day time frame since the South Sandwich Islands begun this. This is something that is very interesting that I very seldom see. The precursor earthquake at Easter Island yesterday and the S.W Indian Ridge quake today BOTH at a major earthquake that followed back in December of 2003. These exact spots were hit 10 years ago, and then central California had a 6.5 north of San Luis Obispo on December 22, 2003. With the huge areas of the plates, to have two quakes on the exact same spots, and then 10 years later the same event, this is quite rare.

      I would say because of this very uncommon occurrence, that California is in the bull’s eye until August 16. I would look at that latitude of 35 degrees, give or take 1 degree and 1/2 or so, as the best possibility for some shaking. Find Bakersfield on the map and go about 90 miles north of here to about 110 miles south of this as the area most prone. Still all of California is in the target area. When two different plate area pinpointed down a few miles react like this, it is no coincidence. The earthquakes in 2003 on S.W Indian Ridge and the Easter Island area were 4 days apart, this time 1 day apart.

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    54. Socrates says:

      I see a lot of apprehension and speculation about the ‘Killshot’. A better name they could not have chosen.

      When the Earth finally does get hit directly by a massive CME, it takes down our magnetosphere, and that in turn strips away your Ozone later. The Magnetosphere and Ozone layer is what keeps all the nasty UV ionizing radiation from cooking all of us like a giant microwave. Seen the movie ‘Knowing’ with Nicholas Cage? Yeah- it’s like that.

      Why do you think the DUMB (Deep Underground Bases) exist? Life on the surface for anyone not wearing sunblock 2 million is going to get very, very bad. I really hate knowing things sometimes.

      http://science.nasa.gov/heliophysics/focus-areas/magnetosphere-ionosphere/

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    55. Wink says:

      Patton and Rommel would have made a great team after the war.

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    56. Not that you guys arnt aware of this, but nice double standard eh?
      if any of us were caught doing the exact same thing we would be either in jail, or dead!

      this punk cop gets to keep his tax payed for job, from the community he was “serving” we should never allow this, and there needs to be a big enough uproar over this to have this guy staying at home without so much as a broom handle for defense.

      http://www.examiner.com/article/drunken-cop-pointing-gun-at-bar-manager-shows-intolerable-double-standard

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    57. Gadabout says:

      Is a metal ammo box a good faraday cage?

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      • Dave in Id says:

        ammo shouldnt have to be shielded…just kidding. I guess it would be. mayby put some dielectric grease on the rubber seal or metal duct tape, both at hardware stores.

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    58. Watchman says:

      US to temporarily shut down embassies around the world Sunday amid security concerns
      Published August 02, 2013
      FoxNews.com
      The United States will temporarily shut down its embassies and consulates around the world Sunday — including those in Iraq, Afghanistan and Egypt — as a precautionary measure over terror-related concerns, State Department officials said.

      Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/02/us-to-shut-down-american-embassies-around-world-as-terror-threats-grow/#ixzz2aoTfNTSl

      Keep the FAITH
      Watchman

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      • Emily says:

        I think this is a false flag. I don’t believe or trust in the leader in the white house. This Sunday, are the American people supposed to cower under their beds? Last time I heard, Obummer stated the Al Qaeda was on the run.
        The NSA ~ spying on innocent American citizens.
        If nothing happens, tptb will say, ‘see, we protected everyone!’ Or, if something does take place, tptb will say,
        ‘We knew it! Our nsa is working, and we saved the day!’
        A few weeks ago I head a definite click on my phone.
        Hello to you too, nsa. Will be watching and waiting this weekend.

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        • Mountain Trekker says:

          Emily, just one thing wrong with your comment, you should have said (I THINK THIS IS A FALSE FLAG) other than that, you hit the nail on the head. You said exactly what I had been thinking all day. I can’t believe an event like this is getting so little attention from our commenters. Usually if there is some kind of small local event many on this site will be yelling False Flag,but I scanned this article and the comments on the article written on the 2nd and you seem to be the only one calling this world wide farce a false flag. Anywho,sure is a good thing the NSA is on the ball, must I exsplain (SARC). Trekker Out.

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          • Emily says:

            :) Thank you for your reply Mt. Trekker.

            I know it, and agree with you. I am very surprised more

            people here on this board, many whom I respect their

            opinions, have not really commented on this world wide

            closure of the American, Canadian, and French embassies

            this Sunday. There is also a Global Travel Alert for

            Americans. I heard this is to last until August 31st.

            Ground Zero and M. Savage are also disputing the validity of

            this shut out this Sunday. I would appreciate any opinions

            and comments on this topic from those on the board. Esp.

            Be Informed, Braveheart, and Smoking Oaky. The whole thing

            just does not ‘set right’ with me. ( Just like the cia people

            being subjected to lie detector tests daily after the

            Benghazi debacle. )

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    59. ScoutMotto says:

      Off-topic alert:

      Tanner gun show in Denver this weekend.

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    60. Just an observation

      Ariel Castro’s speech did sound familiar.
      He claimed he had gone to great lengths to provide a peaceful, harmonious life for his captives, and obviously felt their loss of liberty and freedoms was a small price to pay for his benevolent, nanny-state rule.

      Sounds just like Obama.

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    61. Satori says:

      jobs report

      the UGLY UGLY truth

      Obamacare Full Frontal: Of 953,000 Jobs Created In 2013, 77%, Or 731,000 Are Part-Time

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-02/obamacare-full-frontal-953000-jobs-created-2013-77-or-731000-are-part-time

      bye bye middle class
      it was nice knowin’ ya

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    62. slingshot says:

      If the world governments know what is coming, why do they not power down the nuclear power plants before it happens?
      It is enough to deal without power and what that would bring but the added danger of radiation too. We are talking world wide. To speculate how this would all pan out is frightening. Continuing on as if nothing is going to happen and not give warning is callous and unforgiving. Again we have another time frame to be wary of that may pass without incident. Still we prepare!
      I have for a long time, this beef with myself, as to why I still prepare. It seems like every event is moved ahead of its occurrence. Six months, one year, then two years. The possible events that could happen are very real and warrant prepping. We all have been made out to be Doom and Gloomers, but if that is so, why is our government prepping and for what? Why can we never get a straight answer. I am so pissed off! Every time something is going south, they massage the numbers or use a new calculation. They fail to quickly resolve anything and it all stacks up. They bury the facts and distort information that does not suit their agenda. The use of intimidation does not bode well with me and only strengthens my position against them. They have lied so much that I don’t believe a single word they say anymore.
      So I guess I will still prep.

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      • Dave in Id says:

        They cant. There would be a large loss of power to the cities and people would want in the underground bunkers. Denver would be over run. There would still be all that fuel to keep cool. It takes years to decommision a Nuke plant. we are not in the billion/millionare club with tickets to the new world under ground.

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      • howdy-doody says:

        It’s all part of the plan. keep everyone in the dark until the evidence is overwhealming, as in rocks hitting the earth in mass, or a nationwide blackout. I’m sure at some point, these events will happen. After that, it really doesn’t make any difference unless you have a hole to crawl into. You guys that have a basement at least have a fighting chance. If I had one, I would be hardening that sucker now. When everything hits the fan, there probably won’t be any time.

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    63. Again people..are you paying attention?

      http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/black-man-in-hoodie-stabs-girl-11-times/

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      • slingshot says:

        Oh yes we are.

        Charlie Rangle calls the Tea Party “White Crackers”.

        Don’t you just feel the LOVE.

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      • dave in Id says:

        @ VRF..I didnt read what would be another depressing article, but until people arm themselves, and try to protect thier kids better, this will increase. It has been increasing for about 1-2 years along with shopping mall mini riots. When the people get fed up and shoot these fukrs in the forehead, then it will slow down.It doesnt happen up here because everyone carries and Will use it if neccessary.

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      • Smokey says:

        Yes, we are paying attention to this kind of thing.

        There will be a reckoning.

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    64. Satori says:

      there has been a lot of speculation regarding this solar event
      some sites say that it never happened

      here’s what NASA has to say

      NASA Spacecraft Witness a Coronal Mass Ejection
      http://www.nasa.gov/content/spacecraft-witness-coronal-mass-ejection/

      NASA’s Solar Terrestrial Relations Observatory-Behind spacecraft, or STEREO-B, captured this image of a coronal mass ejection speeding away from the left side of the sun on July 22, 2013, at 3:09 a.m. EDT. The CME is traveling toward Mars. The bright light in the lower right is planet Mercury.

      a CME did occur
      fortunately
      like so many others
      it was headed away from us

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    65. Interview with the White Cracker says:

      So…the next time you are interviewing an Obama fan….
      Just remember how their people are treating us.

      Then determine why OJ was innocent.
      You let these fuckers in power and in a few decades
      they will be voting for reparations and laws against whites.

      The only solution is to continue to let them be watered down and
      then they can’t get all bent out of shape. Beige mother fuckers.

      http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/charlie-rangel-tea-party-is-same-group-of

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      • dave in Id says:

        They already did back door reparations with the minority farm loans or grants.

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      • Smokey says:

        They are in power right now. It won’t take decades for reparation laws, just a few months. Look at the current attempts to pass gun control, amnesty, repeal Stand Your Ground laws, gay ‘rights’, hate speech, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

        Once the Undocumented Democrat Amnesty passes, it’s going to be a steam roller running over us, no question about it.

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    66. Satori says:

      here is exactly what happened July 21-22

      Sun Opens Explosive Plasma ‘Arms’ in Solar Eruption

      http://news.yahoo.com/sun-opens-explosive-plasma-arms-solar-eruption-video-174240084.html

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    67. Socrates says:

      To answer question about the ammo cans for storage- they are metal and usually fairly small, not a lot of room. A large metal garbage can in your basement is a better idea. You NEED to have non-conductive center mass (and interior)however. Think large block of non-foil backed Styrofoam insulation or very dry concrete blocks stacked in bottom.

      EMP is a huge blast of electrically charged particles. If you just drop everything into the metal can you defeated the purpose. You want the wave of energy to flow *around* the outside and away from the can, not into it. Anything not shielded properly that is metal is going to pick up the current from the air. Anything that is a coil or antenna is really going to pick up the current. Do it right or not at all. Better to know you are good to go now than find out bad news later.

      So… Mr. Smarty pants(I can hear you saying) Why can’t I just use a PLASTIC garbage can? First you need to understand how charged particle energy waves travel. You know how you can put food into a dish and then microwave it? The microwave bandwidth of energy can flow THROUGH the dish materials and still heat up your food. You want an EMP container that forces or steers the charged particles AROUND your valuables, not into them! The BEST EMP containers I have seen are the large metal ‘Job boxes’. Make sure the lid is touching metal all the way around, you don’t want a rubber seal up there. Again the idea is to make a ‘bubble’ around the items to protect so the energy travels around, not into.

      Sure hope this clears things up for folks!

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    68. Gadabout says:

      Thanks for that Socrates. I lined my metal ammo boxes with cardboard and put small items inside – short wave radios, etc. But I just ordered some faraday bags yesterday too. Guess I’ll spread things around.

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    69. Christine says:

      Obviously a Carrington event is probable at some point, that is a huge fireball in the sky after all. However, it would seem that there was no such potential this time. This is THE place to go for all things space weather related and he says there was no Carrington Class solar event. Go now to see what he says: http://spaceweather.com/

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    70. Jay Bauers says:

      SPACE WEATHER FACT CHECK: Many readers are asking about a report in the Washington Examiner, which states that a Carrington-class solar storm narrowly missed Earth two weeks ago. There was no Carrington-class solar storm two weeks ago. On the contrary, solar activity was low throughout the month of July. The report is erroneous. The possibility of such a storm is, however, worth thinking about: A modern Carrington event would cause significant damage to our high-tech society. Solar flare alerts: text, voice.

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    71. t-zulu says:

      our last ice storm in KY we were without power for 2.5 weeks it sucked waking up to 4 degreesF but we had a waterboiler to make hot water and set up our household for shtf but it made us realize the holes in our program. now we have an old fashioned steam genny for electric if need be never again! every step back tells you the best next step forward. peace.

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    72. howdy-doody says:

      much back and forth here about dealing with bacterial stomach illnesses. Don’t forget about colloidal silver. Make it yourself, use it for any dealings with nasty bacteria. The body can’t build any immunity to it. I have used it , and made it for many years. Expensive to buy, relatively cheap to make it yourself. Get a kit to make it online. Usually about $30-$40. Indispensible in a SHTF scenario.

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    73. urgent info please let this comment go through says:

      https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=203846956441408&set=pb.100004483151270.-2207520000.1375688668.&type=3&theater

      Prophecy 72

      Planet X

      Written/Spoken under the anointing of the RUACH ha KODESH
      to Apostle Elisabeth Elijah Nikomia
      July 12, 2003

      [Planet will cause Mass Destruction Prophetic Warning. Is this the Planet X that so many are warning about? I don't know if it is or not nor do I know the scientific data, but I do know what YAHUVEH told me and the anointing hit me as I wrote the below.]

      * * * * * * *

      Foolish man to think you can use mathematics to calculate the date that I YAHUVEH will use A PLANET IN MY WRATH to cause mass destruction to MY enemies. A word of prophetic warning to the rich and powerful who think they will be safe in the underground cities full of your treasures stored up, delicacies of food, etc. The underground cities you built and are still building will be your watery tombs and you shall die with your treasures of earth and I, YAHUVEH, have delayed that judgment for the prayers of the true believers in YAHUSHUA’s Name, THOSE OBEDIENT, WALKING HOLY BEFORE ME WILL BE SPARED and I have had mercy thus far for the sake of MY children that call out for more time to REACH MORE SOULS FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

      Judgment is delayed but NOT STOPPED and it is I, YAHUVEH, alone that will calculate the date when MY wrath hits the earth. I, YAHUVEH, have delayed the judgment to confound and shame those that built the underground cities thinking only of themselves, proving that I, YAHUVEH, alone is Judge over who will live and who will die and who will enter Heaven and who will go to HELL.

      Remember I, YAHUVEH, send forth MY apostles and prophets to warn before I send MY wrath. It is your choice whether you listen and obey but know this, all shall reap what they have sown good seed and bad seed alike.”

      END OF PROPHETIC WARNING

      * * * * * * *

      Given to Elisabeth Elijah Nikomia, July 12, 2003

      http://www.amightywind.com
      http://www.almightywind.com

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    74. Tim Denton says:

      Just the other day the sun emitted a potential “kill shot” flare and CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) but it luckily was not earth directed. If you sign up for CME/Space Weather alerts on spaceweather.com, they will send either email or phone messages to you when a potentially damaging flare is emitted from the sun. A word of warning from someone (myself) who has studied this since 2010, if you choose to use alternative energy in the event of grid collapse, you had better shield all the control components in a Faraday cage. Wind turbines themselves, if operating, would likely survive, but solar panels would likely be overloaded and fried. The electronic controls for both need to be shielded though.

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