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We Know The Whereabouts of Lost IRS Emails…

Mac Slavo
June 19th, 2014
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A Congressional inquiry into the targeting of Tea Party and Conservative organizations by the IRS has revealed that thousands of emails from IRS head Lois Lerner and at least six of her subordinates have been lost to history after the hard drive which stored them was reportedly thrown away. The loss of the emails makes it nearly impossible to track down and verify what actually took place and whether or not the Obama administration was directly involved in the harassment of independent groups that didn’t agree with the President’s political platform.

Without the emails their is no accountability, despite the fact that the President Obama has repeatedly claimed that transparency and the rule of law would be touchstones of his Presidency.  “Starting today every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information, but those who seek to make it known,” said President Obama at a press conference on the day he took office in January of 2009.

The President’s past statements run contrary to the events playing out on Capitol Hill today, where the IRS has claimed that the emails have been “lost forever.”

Congressman Darrell Issa pointed out the ridiculousness of the claims saying that such records could only disappear because of deliberate destruction.

“Official records, like the e-mails of a prominent official, don’t just disappear without a trace unless that was the intention.”

It turns out that Senator Darrell Issa is right. Records like these don’t just disappear without a trace.

We know the whereabouts of the lost IRS emails and they could likely be accessed and shown to the American public within 24 hours.

It turns out that there just so happens to be a redundant set of digital records available in a facility capable of holding some septillion pages of information (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 pages of text) that has been actively aggregating and storing digital data for years.

Access to any of those records can be had with a simple directive from the President of the United States.

The facility where the records are stored, along with the private emails, text messages, google searches and 20 trillion domestic phone calls since 2001 is owned and operated by America’s National Security Agency which, among other things, is responsible for the monitoring of American citizens and storing any and all digital interactions captured on private and public telecommunications lines. The NSA’s most advanced intelligence monitoring facility is located at Camp Williams and is called the “Utah Data Center.”

NSA-utah-data-center

If the emails ever existed, whether they were deliberately wiped or accidentally lost, the National Security Agency undoubtedly has a digital record of them.

Intelligence officials and law enforcement refer to the phenomenon as “digital permanence” and what it means is that there exists a record of every digital interaction taking place over the internet somewhere. So, even if you happen to lose a hard drive or purposefully click that delete button, you’d be in luck. The National Security Agency has a copy of it because they have been effectively collecting all data sent over telecommunications lines in the United States since at least 2001.

The mind-boggling amount of data being collected at this and other facilities seems like something out of a science fiction movie, but according to award-winning mathematician and NSA whistleblower William Binney it is very real – and it’s been happening for quite some time. And just in case you think they’re collecting “meta-data” such the the sender, receiver and subject line of an email exclusively, according to Binney, they are also collecting the content of the communication as well. That means they know what you texted, said on a phone call, or wrote in an email.

Binney explained that the government is taking the position that it can gather and use any informationabout American citizens living on U.S. soil if it comes from:

Any service provider … any third party … any commercial company – like a telecom or internet service provider, libraries, medical companies – holding data about anyone, any U.S. citizen or anyone else.

The government is gathering everything, including content.

Binney explained – as he has many times before – that the government is storing everything, and creating a searchable database … to be used whenever it wants, for any purpose it wants (even just going after someone it doesn’t like).

Given this revelation from someone who understands the inner workings of NSA signals intelligence and how they collect data, it’s clear that despite the IRS losing the emails in question, there exist exact replicas of them at the NSA.

It should only be a matter of time now before President Obama officially requests that the NSA turn over these records so that he can prove to the American public once and for all that neither he or those in his administration had any knowledge or influence over the IRS targeting of political enemies.

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  1. SterlingSilver says:

    Its absolutely a slap in the face, the bird finger, and an outright insult to claim the old 80’s excuse that the “hard drive crashed.” With cloud technology and all the redundancy, especially at the gov level, this is proof that they’re rubbing the public’s nose in their “above the law” attitude.

    • There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that these records exist. To suggest that the correspondence of a top level government official are stored on a single hard drive is laughable. Never mind the potentially hundreds of nodes such an email would travel when sent.

      There is a 99.99% chance that these emails exist in NSA databanks, but there should be no reason to even have to go that far.

      • Rodster says:

        This is just another way of YOUR criminal Govt putting hard earned taxpayer money to corrupt/criminal use. 😉

        We ALL know they’re bullshitting. If these guys can lie about Ukraine/Russia/Putin. You think they can totally destroy any records they want? I do !

        We are witnessing an oligarchy where the Elites do what they want. The bottom line is, if the Govt wants to dig up dirt on you from 30 years ago, THEY’LL FIND IT.

        If the Govt wants to destroy any records that can incriminate them, THEY WILL DESTROY THE EVIDENCE.

        • Defiant says:

          You can tell when obamas lying,
          his dick gets hard when he’s in
          front of the podium.

          That’s why he always smiles,
          he hasn’t got enough skin left
          to close his mouth.

          • Defiant says:

            Awww — did I offend some gentle souls here

            who believe the black messiah can do no wrong?

            I know he promised us a watermelon in every

            pot, it just has to be GMO watermelon, or else.

            • yourmotherwaswrong says:

              PCR says:

              “You cannot rectify the situation by voting Democrat instead of Republican or by voting Republican instead of Democrat.”

              “Thomas Jefferson told us his solution: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

              • Defiant says:

                You’re no Outlaw, you are just a mealy mouthed
                little prick that has never had an original
                thought in their entire life.

                You tear down others for your gratification and
                lack of personal literary skills and insight to
                build up an inflated aura of arrogance.

                An example of your writing acumen:
                ya – sumthin – your(you’re) -dontcha.

                Come back sometime when you have more
                meat in your brain than in your ass — Outlaw

              • Outlaw says:

                Lmao.
                Yes I use southern slang. And still people understand my point. Grow my own food. Kill my own meat. Do many other things “outside our current system of law” (i.e. outlaw) that I will “plead the fifth” to on this site. But I do respect common law, natural law, if you will.

                One thing is clear though, you are certainly defiant. The first thing that comes to my mind is a defiant child. You don’t hear people say “my child is an outlaw”. Yet many say “my child is defiant”.

                Your handle is very fitting, a defiant child.

                Son, you cleared it up below. You learn your writing skills from bathroom walls.

                This old outlaw has better things to do than argue on the internet with “defiant” children.

                Good luck to ya, and God Bless.

            • Outlaw says:

              Didn’t offend me about the obamster. I just thumbed ya down because ya put dumb breaks in your posts like you write poems or sumthin. The breaks are not even at logical points. You may have valid opinions, but your not a poet.

          • Da Yooper says:

            ISSSSSSN’T it time to play pitchforks & politician’s ?

            • durango kidd says:

              Hang this Bitch from the Jefferson Memorial and all of her accomplices along side her. It’s time to make an example of TRAITORS to this nation.

              Engage your employees or have the Constitution shredded before your very eyes and YOUR rights with it. The penalty for TREASON is death! 🙁

              • apache54 says:

                D Kid !
                YUP, amen to that hang-em HIGH !!!

              • Walt Kowalski says:

                I’ve been advocating the use of rope and utility poles for a long time.

                Glad to see you on-board.

              • lastmanstanding says:

                Amen Walt…unfortunately, he still thinks that we can vote our way out of the up coming shit storm.

              • durango kidd says:

                LMS: The Constitution is OUR most powerful weapon. Voting made a difference in NWO Majority Whip Eric Cantor’s life didn’t it? WE must become politically active.

                Every Liberty Movement has a political arm also well as freedom fighters to support and defend its success at the polls; even if you believe as Mao did that “political power comes from the barrel of a gun”.

                The Liberty Movement must choose its fights correctly. Rancher Bundy is not it.

                Note the civil administration left in the wake of 1,000 Jihadists marching on Baghdad, who put the entire Iraqi Army to flight, (who was trained by the US Army).

                Take political power and then enforce it now that America is awake and aware. America is READY for a new birth of FREEDOM. Begin at the local level in a Neighborhood Tea Party. Common Core has been successfully resisted. Other transforming commie policies can be rolled backed too.

                Move to impeach, move to indict, move to convict these bastards, and then move to HANG them.

                It will only take a few examples of what happens to NWO TRAITORS who has stolen OUR political process, OUR economy, and are now trying to steal OUR rights; for the grazers to get the message.

                A purge is coming.

                Make a list. Check it twice. Know who has been naughty and who has been nice in YOUR neck of the woods. Every LEO is not a pig; most are Patriots. Every government employee is not a government thug, and every low level banker or politician is not a criminal.

                Be selective. The New World Order Traitors and Criminals expose themselves every day. Make a list. Its YOUR Constitution that the NWO is shredding. The New World Order can be eliminated overnight and at 500 yards.

                They will attempt to seize American Second Amendment Rights next year. When they do, they will draw first blood. Then all hell will break loose upon them.

                Karma is a BITCH!!! 🙂

              • durango kidd says:

                In the New America that is coming, the IRS will be disbanded and taxes will be collected from multinational corporations; while income, personal property, real estate, and estate taxes will be eliminated.

                The People’s Court will hold trials for all Federal Employees and any politician who has served for more than three Congressional terms or two Senate terms will receive a jail term for as long as their elected office; and the loss of all salaries and benefits. These assholes are already guilty of pigging out at the Public Trough.

                Engage your employees and find a FEMA Camp for them to serve out their sentence. 🙂

              • Old76 says:

                Yep!! I agree but it will take nmore than key board warriors to get the job done.

          • You’re wrong. I’m pretty sure that narcissistic jerk is an impotent.

          • Anonymous says:

            When is it time to bring pitch forks and torches to Washington DC……?

      • KY Mom says:

        The highly unlikely happens not only once, but six additional times…

        The IRS said it cannot locate many of Lerner’s emails prior to 2011 because her computer cra$hed during the summer of that year.

        The missing emails are ones to and from the “White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.”
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/13/irs-says-it-cannot-locate-lois-lerner-emails-prior-to-2011/

        Investigative Reporter: Lerner’s Missing Emails CAN Be Retrieved
        “Award-winning investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson says former IRS official Lois Lerner’s missing emails can be found and sources have contacted her to say they could help retrieve them.

        “I’ve had many people contact me . . . who say they think they could get that material and that it’s not that difficult.”

        “There are also mandates requiring the material . . . to be protected, and it’s put on SERVERS. It’s not held in a single place that could be crashed,”

        “It’s interesting that seven months into the request from Congress, when the [IRS] commissioner [John Koskinen] testified in March, he didn’t give any hints that the emails had been involved in some sort of irrevocable crash,” she said.
        http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Sharyl-Attkisson-Lois-Lerner-emails-retrieve/2014/06/16/id/577360/

        Now we learn…
        IRS knew for MONTHS of ‘lost’ Lerner emails, more documents missing
        “…records from SIX other IRS workers appear to have gone MISSING as well.”
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/17/lawmakers-irs-knew-for-months-lost-lerner-emails-more-documents-missing/

        Update: The IRS has admitted the hard drive were destroyed.

      • SterlingSilver says:

        Harry Reid says “we’re a nation laws!” Yet, the self proclaimed overlords of the peasants see it different. There is no longer government for or by the People. Its about running the United States Inc as a corporate business wherein we are the corporate assets that produce for them.

        Need evidence? Where is the punishment causing, being involved in, or being complicit and benefiting from the following actions: (Off the top of my head in no apparent order)

        Lies told to steal the ’08 and ’12 presidential elections,
        voting fraud
        Lack of transparency
        Filling a cabinet with lobbyists after saying he wouldn’t
        Openingly attacking AZ and TX over immigration
        Welfare fraud
        Bank cronyism
        Government shutdowns
        Fast and Furious
        Bengahzi
        IRS probes
        NSA surveilliance and widespread 4th amendment violations
        Constant 10th amendment violations
        Inciting racial conflict over Martin/Zimmerman self defense issue
        ObamaCare
        Collapsing the sourthern border to bring in gangs and diseases
        Outright lies in an attempt to violate the 2nd amendment
        Bergdahl/Terrorists trade
        VA negligence scandal
        DHS police state
        DHS police state heavily arming a civilian army with military grade ordnance and weaponry
        IRS obstruction of justice

        This is just what comes to mind at the moment. And has he actually been in trouble for any it? Any criminal charges filed against him or his cronies that have stuck? Impeachment? Hell, he’s involved with 2 to 3 impeachable offenses PER WEEK now and nothing happens.

        The United States is a for profit corporate business owned by the Federal Reserve. There is no We the People anymore. Just we the slaves.

      • These are all great points. However, none of it matters, none of it. The don’t care what you, I or anyone else thinks. They do what they want, when they want and how they want. They think themselves accountable to nobody, no law, no nothing. The question isn’t whether or not these emails exist, hell no.

        The question is; what are you going to do about it slave?

        Answer: not jack shit

        I hate to say it, but they’re right. Nobody is going to do jack shit about until it’s too late. You’ll know it’s too late when the war comes to our shores. Oh wait, it already has,…too late. America as we all thought we knew, is already gone.

      • Walt Kowalski says:

        Frankly, I don’t know what I should be most angry about…..the fact that the Obama administration is lying to us about the “lost” emails, or that they actually believe we are so stupid that we would believe their lies regarding this.

        I’m tending toward the latter.

        For Ms. Lerner, the IRS and the Kenyan…….Don’t piss down my neck and tell me it’s raining.

        • They don’t care if we know. They only care what we can prove and how we could use that against them. With their actions, they have side stepped the issue and do not plan on addressing it any further. So unless Congress gets their behinds off “the Powers” payroll nothing will happen with or without proof.
          Old game: buy the cop and there is no crime.

          • Joanne says:

            You are SO right. The present administration doesn’t give a whit about what we think. That has become very obvious. As long as they can count on enough votes from leftists and no-nothings, they’re happy.

      • Hammerun says:

        Anybody that carries a CAC knows that this lost Email thing is a load of bunk!

      • Azrael says:

        I’m and IT professional now, and have done govt work when in the Army. The Govt uses MS Exchange Server in a server cluster with nightly backups. So technically that data is on multiple drives and either tape, cloud, SAN or NAS backups too. I call MEGA BS on this. Plus if the Outlook client is configured using POP instead of IMAP, then the users PC still has the email on it. What about mobile devices configured POP? They may still have it. Research FISMA and you KNOW it’s complete BS.

        • Walt Kowalski says:

          I am in IT as well, and you are absolutely correct.

        • Jeff says:

          Of course it is BS. Kabuki theater. They can not openly say, well at least not yet; F–k you, we’re not going to comply and hand over the information/evidence. They have to give some kind of a cover story. I suspect the goal is that if they stonewall it long enough, the matter will be forgetten given the news cycle and the average TV watching, low information citizen.
          But if there was on those exact same “destroyed hard drives” or “lost Emails” details of sexual misconduct that could be used against a member of the enemy party (TEA party or Republican politician running for re-elect)
          a miracle would happen just in time for the evening news, they would be found, in pristine condition.

      • Calgagus says:

        Aint just Utahs center. There are data centers across the US and most govt agencies use them for backups. Bunch of large data centers in MD and VA since most Fed govt is still headquartered in DC. Aint just govt but big non profits and corporations. Backups are offsite for security backup reasons.
        Those records exist and theyll soon surface. But it wont be w/ govt cooperation.

    • WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

      That’s what I will say when they demand my Tax Payment. I say I sent it in, maybe you lost it along with your E-mails.
      This Govn’t is Sooooo Criminal.

    • CWinOR says:

      @Sterling- you’re absolutely correct. One of my specialties in IT is MS Exchange (long the #1 Enterprise Messaging platform), which I’ve worked with since it was still called MS Mail. There are SO many ways to recover “deleted” emails (which haven’t been stored on local hard disks since the early days of POP mail) that’s it is laughably insulting to even TRY that lame excuse! Between RAID and a slew of other storage technologies, we all know they aren’t lost. Any Mail and/or Storage Admin worth a crap should be able to locate these emails within ~48 hours. We don’t need the NSA to find their copies- we just need LEADERS with BALLS to say “produce them or go to prison”.

      • SterlingSilver says:

        @CWinOR: the real insulting aspect is that Lerner and her cohorts excuse is obviously saying, “We’re lying, and we know it, and you know, and we know you it, and WE DON’T CARE cause you can’t do shit about it. Go fuck yourself Joe Public!”

      • Anonymous says:

        Was just looking up “nuclear power plants– location in U.S.”. Almost all of them are located on the East coast of U.S.– where most of the citizens are.

        It seems the best spots to be when TSHTF is either Montana or North Dakota. I read the worst place to be when they blow is south of the nuclear power plants.

        • WHoWuddaThunkIt says:

          Nuke Plants: http://www.RadiationNetwork.com- Here is an Interactive Map that updates every 1 minute to show you where the Radiation Hot Spots are in the U.S. This is a good Web Link to put on your Call phone in case you need to evacuate. Always go up wind from the radiation or perpendicular to get out of the radiated flowing wind. Radiation fall out is like snow. For a permanent Bug-out go to where there is No Radiation hot spots. During a collapse or EMP, Nuke plants only have 30 days of diesel Fuel on hand to run the generators to keep the cooling rods cool, then the meltdown occurs.

        • Nathan Cline says:

          “It seems the best spots to be when TSHTF is either Montana or North Dakota.”

          Winter up there is bad enough already. What do you think nuclear winter is going to be like? This is one of several reasons I moved from the U.P. back to Alabama. 10 years from now, summer in Alabama will feel like the U.P.

    • Kulafarmer says:

      All the more reason to stop cooperating with the government,
      There is no reason to go along to get along any more, from here on out, oh i lost those papers, nope i never got them, what money, my bank account is empty i must not have made any,,,
      Screw em!
      MOLON LABE

    • Confederate says:

      The lost emails are up obama’s ass.

      • Nathan Cline says:

        If that’s the case maybe they should ask Jay Carney to have a look around and see if he can find em.

      • Anonymous says:

        “I sold all my guns to somebody years ago and I don’t remember his name– had a sign posted on the telephone pole (‘guns for sale’)and this tall, skinny white guy came and bought them all.”

        “I don’t remember his name.” “I have no guns–sold them all, don’t remember to who”.

    • john1028 says:

      Your email does not reside on your computer, in most cases, it resides on a server.

      Servers use massive storage arrays, NAS or a raid array made up of multiple drives.

      Individual drives fail all the time, it’s normal and expected and *there is no loss of data*. NAS and RAID arrays easily handle a failed drive. There is no interruption in the ability to store and access data. A technician simply slaps in a new drive and the RAID rebuilds the drive and keeps on chugging.

      This hard drive failure is a lie, and it’s not even a very good lie.

  2. MXLord327 says:

    “It should only be a matter of time now before President Obama officially requests that the NSA turn over these records so that he can prove to the American public once and for all that neither he or those in his administration had any knowledge or influence over the IRS targeting of political enemies.”

    Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are!!!!! Love the sarcasm.

  3. eppe says:

    Snowden has them….

    • KY Mom says:

      Off Topic…

      DARPA BRAIN CHIPS TO IMPLANT FALSE MEMORIES
      “The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is developing brain chips that will implant or remove specific memories from a subject, a prospect some may deem chilling given DARPA’s previous advocacy of authentication microchips.

      Neuroscientists foresee a brave new world where minds can be programmed using lasers, drugs and microchips in order to create false memories, a technology that has already been used on mice.

      “DARPA [the U.S. military’s R&D agency] seems to be going full steam ahead on these kinds of technologies,” neuroscientist Joseph LeDoux told MIT Review. “What they plan to do is put chips in [the brain].

      It would be like a prosthesis—instead of moving your arm, you’re fixing memory. I have no idea how they would achieve that.”
      http://www.infowars.com/darpa-brain-chips-to-implant-false-memories/

      DON’T TAKE THE CHIP!

    • WHoWuddaThunkIt says:

      Yeah, wouldn’t that be funny if Snowden released copies of every IRS Email for this scandal. He’s the Gift that keeps on giving.

  4. femaregion1 says:

    Of course they know where the emails are. You really think they want to make Iron Mountain look bad? (Its also an embarrassment to the establishment itself obviously..)

    • KY Mom says:

      Casey Research: Why negative interest rates are just the beginning

      “We are in the electronic age. We are also seeing the EU and US heading in a direction that is marked with increasing controls on the capital held by their citizens.

      Therefore, the ideal currency would be an electronic one. No more paper notes in the wallet, no more coins in the pocket; just a plastic debit card to take care of ALL purchases.”

      “This, of course, is a handy solution to the fuss of dealing with what was formerly regarded as money. But there is an extra advantage—quite a major one, in fact—to the government. It now has a record of every single transaction that you make. There could be no “under the table” transactions, as only the debit card would represent currency.

      Of course, a bank would be needed to handle the transactions. The bank would receive your electronic paycheck directly from your employer, and you would spend what you had in your account. The bank would be the central clearing house though which all your financial transactions took place.

      An extra advantage to the government would be that they would no longer need to chase their citizens for taxation. Since they had a full record of every penny you earned and spent, they could advise you of the amount of your tax obligation and simply deduct it periodically.”

      How Does All This Fit Together?
      “Let’s go back to the ECB. If a negative interest rate exists, the bank no longer pays you interest to encourage you to keep your money with them.

      They now control all your monetary transactions, and you cannot function without them. The servant has become the master. Therefore, it would not be possible to cease to use the bank for your transactions, should their “negative interest rates” start to climb.”

      “AT THIS POINT, THE GOVERNMENT AND THE BANK WOULD, BETWEEN THEM, CONTROL YOUR MONEY TOTALLY.”
      http://thecrux.com/warning-why-negative-interest-rates-could-be-just-the-beginning/

      I believe their next step would be to chip the population.

  5. WhoWuddaThunkIt says:

    Emails don’t get lost, they are a permanent record within the system on multiple servers. You can also do a digital forensics backtrack on every computer out there and can track every key stroke that was made on it, from the beginning of time. This is Obstruction of Justice and they should all serve Mandatory Prison Time.

  6. This is a very slippery slope we find ourselves on, using the very agency that invades our privacy in the same form as pre-crime.

    Yes it can help us find justice in this case but only at the systems own justification, which places us back to believing it’s OK to store the thoughts and writings of the whole population.

    In the end it still seems a win for the progressives and those that would control us.

  7. Satori says:

    Army spied on activist’s meetings in their homes, call civil disobedience terrorism

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/Army_spied_on_activist's_meetings_in_their_homes%2C_call_civil_disobedience_terrorism/36049/0/0/0/Y/M.html

    why the hell is the military involoving itself in spying on civilians ???

    oh yeah
    we live in a third world banana republic
    where the Constitution doesn’t mean diddly squat to those in power

    my bad

  8. You don’t think for a minute Obama will sign any order to turn over those emails do you? That would be telling the whole country just how corrupt this administration is. Snowballs chance in hell they will ever be seen again!But (good luck with that)!

    • sixpack says:

      It would be hilarious if the emails got printed out for some reason, thrown in the trash and recovered by the cleaning lady for scratch paper…LOL.

      3:15 AM and the cleaning lady wakes up to a govt SWAT team: “THIS IS A RAID.”

  9. Sgt. Dale says:

    My wife works at a high school on all of their computers. The only way to loose the info on a hard drive is to DESTROY it. That has to be done on purpose!
    I was told even with a hard drive crash that the info is still on it, and there are ways to get info off of them, they just wont take any more info.
    We will find all the hard drives on the missing Boing 777.
    There is more than likely more Bullshit on o bla bla, that is why they are on the that 777. (Just kidding).
    If it was you or I we would be setting in jail!!!!
    Would waterboarding be out of the question? (I’m not kidding).
    AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
    Sgt.

    • sixpack says:

      I’ve recovered files on crashed hard drives many times. Hard drives that wouldn’t boot up the operating system can still be accessed to recover the files. I’ve usually been asked to recover photos and scanned document copies from dead HDDs.

      I’m nowhere near an expert, but if I could do it sitting at my kitchen table, so can they.

    • Walt Kowalski says:

      Here’s the thing…

      Even if those emails HAD existed ONLY on Lois Lerner’s computer hard drive, you can bet that when the computer crashed, she would have had the IT department at the IRS do everything in their power to recover that data from the failed drive.

      I work in IT. I have seen MANY failed hard drives. In nearly all cases MOST if not ALL of the data can be recovered from a failed drive. You can bet the IRS either has IT people and the facilities capable of doing this, or they have contracts with someone who can.

      What’s even more interesting (and an even bigger indication of the lies they are telling) is that evidently, the only emails that she lost were for the time period surrounding the harassment of Tea Party organizations. Sorry….but that dog don’t hunt.

      And finally, as has already been mentioned, that data most likely resides somewhere on MULTIPLE servers. If it was an exchange server or an IMAP setup with her computer, that data is STILL on that server. That’s why you configure your email client for IMAP. And even if it was a POP account set up….that mail server was backed up as well. And most likely the backups were time-stamped incremental backups…on multiple media sets. That’s why backups are set up that way…so there is no single point of failure.

      This whole “the dog ate my homework” excuse just doesn’t pass the stink test. And like I’ve said before, it infuriates me that they actually think we are that stupid.

      Of course….the low-information crowd that really makes up Obama’s constituency will buy it hook, line and sinker.

  10. oUCH says:

    No one should be surprised when Liars lie and thieves steal. That’s what they do. This “president” and his administration is full of both. There is no argument about that, at least not an honest one. And don’t bother mentioning what Bush /Cheney did or didn’t do. They aren’t in power.. but an undeniable lying sack O shit it.

    Impeach the lying SOB and do it now.. but they won’t.. because those we have elected have no spine nor sense of duty to the future by preserving the rule of law today.

    What a bunch of bastards. There will be Hell to pay on Judgement Day and unfortunately for all of us, likely some form of self induced Hell to pay here on Earth too.

  11. muleskinner says:

    we still have 6-7 years left of this defacto (unconstitutional) type of corporate government to go. So just expect the teflon just to get slippery (transparent) just that much longer.
    republicoftheunintedstates.org

  12. egore says:

    “It should only be a matter of time now before Presidint Obaama officially requests….”

    Yeah, like years.

  13. passinwiththewind says:

    They gave them to Bin Laden just before they killed his “look-alike” twin.

    A side note: “Senators proposing a twelve cents per gallon tax hike to fund the Highway Trust Fund”

    Patriots response: ” We should stay-the-phuck, out of
    Irag and Syria while putting those funds into highway infrasture and have a ten percent pay cut for all government employees except congress and senate; their’s should be a twenty percent cut.

    • PA farmer says:

      All gov employes should be payed flat rate, not Salary. So if you sit at a computer and down load 7000 hrs of porn I dont pay you, if I give you money and tell you to build a fence to keep illegals out of the country and you start shiping them over by bus, I dont pay you, and you will repay the money you spent I dont eat misstakes sorry. You dont Produce emails no pay. If their payed by what they do they wouldnt pass the Baton off to the next guy witch would eliminate all these alphabet agencies.

  14. Agent Provocatour says:

    Everyone knows The White House will never request the email record from the NSA because it will implicate him and his senior staff. These guys are all about “Punishing” their enemies .The laws do not apply to them. Give it another generation and they will be having human sacrifices on the White House lawn.

  15. Socrates says:

    Q. How can you tell when a politician is lying?

    A. Seriously? They ALL lie 24/7.

    The more important question is:

    Q. How can you tell when a politician is telling the truth?

    A. You can’t. Because they don’t and won’t. 😉

  16. KY Mom says:

    Off Topic…

    Is The Fed Trying To Create A “Bond Run” Panic? Yes… In Its Own Words

    Is the Fed trying to start the very bond run it is allegedly attempting to prevent? Read the following, then decide.

    “Our paper is the first to show that the possibility of suspending convertibility, including the imposition of gates or fees for redemptions, can create runs that would not otherwise occur.

    This contrasts with the existing literature, which focuses on whether suspension of convertibility can prevent runs. In other words, we show that rather than being part of the solution, redemption fees and gates can be part of the problem.”

    “… we show that there can be preemptive runs that occur only because an intermediary has the ability to impose “standby” (liquidity-contingent) gates or fees. Second, we show that for an intermediary that maximizes the expected utility of its own investors, imposing a gate or fee can be ex-post optimal.

    Hence, for an intermediary that can restrict redemptions in a crisis, a policy of not imposing such restrictions may be time-inconsistent. The financial intermediary might like to commit not to restrict redemptions, so that preemptive runs would not occur.

    Absent a means of ensuring commitment, however, the intermediary will find it optimal to suspend, con firming the beliefs of informed investors who withdrew preemptively.”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-19/fed-trying-create-bond-run-panic-yes-its-own-words

    Bonds & Stocks Are Dumping
    “Gold has been flashing red this morning that something is happening. Bonds started to crack and then the 30Y TIPS auction tailed… and bond yields are smashing higher. And now stocks are being sold on heavy volume as VIX rolls over… ”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-19/bonds-stocks-are-dumping

  17. Barn Cat says:

    I’m surprised they destroyed the emails. Nobody will go to jail from the Obama administration no matter what they do. Some of the Republicrats will make noise but in the end they’ll do nothing. The leadership of the Demoncrats and the Republicrats are on the same side. That’s why they’re both for open borders and why they won’t repeal obamacare.

  18. Kevin2 says:

    The NSA stores everything so regardless of the excuse this information is at the very least in their hands.

  19. Satori says:

    Revolutionary War 2.0 ???

    The open source revolution is coming and it will conquer the 1% – ex CIA spy

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy

    “Last month, Steele presented a startling paper at the Libtech conference in New York, sponsored by the Internet Society and Reclaim. Drawing on principles set out in his latest book, The Open-Source Everything Manifesto: Transparency, Truth and Trust, he told the audience that all the major preconditions for revolution – set out in his 1976 graduate thesis – were now present in the United States and Britain.”

    “”We are at the end of a five-thousand-year-plus historical process during which human society grew in scale while it abandoned the early indigenous wisdom councils and communal decision-making,” he writes in The Open Source Everything Manifesto. “Power was centralised in the hands of increasingly specialised ‘elites’ and ‘experts’ who not only failed to achieve all they promised but used secrecy and the control of information to deceive the public into allowing them to retain power over community resources that they ultimately looted.”

    Today’s capitalism, he argues, is inherently predatory and destructive:

    “Over the course of the last centuries, the commons was fenced, and everything from agriculture to water was commoditised without regard to the true cost in non-renewable resources. Human beings, who had spent centuries evolving away from slavery, were re-commoditised by the Industrial Era.”

    “”I see five major overlapping threats on the immediate horizon,” he continues. “They are all related: the collapse of complex societies, the acceleration of the Earth’s demise with changes that used to take 10,000 years now taking three or less, predatory or shock capitalism and financial crime out of the City of London and Wall Street, and political corruption at scale, to include the west supporting 42 of 44 dictators. We are close to multiple mass catastrophes.”

    “What about the claim that the US is on the brink of revolution? “Revolution is overthrow – the complete reversal of the status quo ante. We are at the end of centuries of what Lionel Tiger calls ‘The Manufacture of Evil,’ in which merchant banks led by the City of London have conspired with captive governments to concentrate wealth and commoditise everything including humans”

    Voluntary Servitude
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/voluntary-servitude_062014

    “I am beginning to realize why they stopped teaching the Constitution in public schools. Think about it… Why would a corporation funded public learning institution teach its students the way to overthrow the very corporation who funds the learning? Answer is, they don’t. It’s all a fraud, and it’s time we became educated about our real rights. “

  20. eagle5 says:

    Did the people she sent all the emails to suddenly get their inboxes wiped out too?

    Has anyone tried looking at those emails instead of just fixating on her “sent” files?

    • DaisyK says:

      In his last press conference Jay Carney said that the administration had looked in all their inboxes and didn’t find even one single email from or to Lerner.

      I think that maybe someone else should check, just in case.

  21. eagle5 says:

    Oh and don’t worry, the previous administration will get blamed for this too….

  22. Socrates says:

    ***OFF TOPIC***

    But important none the less…

    It *always* starts with something ‘non-lethal’ doesn’t it? THIS is another example of why I stopped working for ‘The BEAST’.

    (from ZeroHedge site)
    Coming To A Protest Near You… A Drone That Blasts Pepper Spray

    Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
    What’s a crony status quo to do when it is ultimately confronted with an unruly mob of plebs frustrated with the fact median wages haven’t increased in forty five years, while the 0.01% has stolen everything in sight with the help of the Federal Reserve and corrupt Washington D.C. politicians?

    Well, naturally you’d launch the South African made Skunk Riot Control Copter, fully equipped with a suite of high-definition and thermal imagine cameras, strobe lights, speakers and a pepper spray firing paint ball gun which can fire 80 shots per second!

    We learn from The Verge that:
    Crowds of protesters could soon come under attack from riot control drones outfitted with paintball guns, strobe lights, and speakers. The Skunk Riot Control Copter, built by South African company Desert Wolf, has a suite of cameras and four paintball guns strapped to its chassis to help its operators monitor and control unruly crowds. The guns can fire ammunition from four different hoppers, meaning the drone operators can shoot protesters with dye markers, solid plastic pellets, or small capsules of pepper spray.

    The first batch of drones will reportedly be deployed to mines in South Africa later this month, where lengthy strikes at some of the country’s biggest facilities have resulted in violence. Mine owners hope that the drones will be able to control and subdue their workers by blasting them with flashing lights, blaring messages of control, and shooting them from the sky. Kieser says he hopes its success in the country will lead to more orders for the gun-toting drone.

    Oh you silly little miners want higher wages? You may want to think twice about going on strike, unless you want a couple pepper spray pellets to the dome.
    Sky News adds that:
    The drone has a payload capacity of around 40kg; it can carry up to 4,000 projectiles and fires up to 80 shots each second.

    The eight-rotor aircraft also has high-definition and thermal imaging cameras.

    It needs two people to control it; one to maneuver the aircraft, and one to control the array of tools and weapons on board.

    Complete with a ground control station, it will cost around 500,000 South African Rand (£27,400).

    A spokesman for Desert Wolf said more orders were in the pipeline from customers around the world.

    These include security companies, police units and businesses.
    Only two people needed to control it. Just imagine how many protesting slaves you can blast at one time. So efficient! Unfortunately, for pepper spray happy cops like John Pike, who received a $38,000 settlement for pepper spraying seated, peaceful protesters at the University of California Davis, the easy money may be gone. Yes, this guy:

    My only question at this point is; can drones collect pensions?

  23. PO'd Patriot says:

    I betcha they’re up Reggie Love’s ass where Black Bart can retrieve them when the lights at the WH go out.

    • PO'd Patriot says:

      On second thought, with an ass like “Buck Jones’ Pony”, maybe Moochele has them, in which case they’ll never see the light ‘o day. Envision it……….

  24. PO'd Patriot says:

    I know this is not on topic, but if you live in the northeast area, have oil heat, but have a woodstove in place, you might want to either prepay and load up on home heating fuel or wood. You’ve been warned….

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/6/19_Legend_Warns_Of_World_Economic_Crash_%26_Oil_Spike_To_$250.html

    • PO'd Patriot says:

      The time is now before we get into the cold weather to take advantage of the “new norm” (just like beef and pork prices) fill your tanks and thank God you got it now before it triples) come Fall. Folks this winter will be looking bleak. Hunt all you can and ‘make meat’ (meaning glean all you can by hunting and putting up food storage) and canning. Your life depends on it. The PTB means to take whatever you got left and its come down to this. I feel we’ll even travel down further. Don’t give up for anything in the world. Just keep doing what you’re doing. Evade all you can, circumvent all you can and for the ‘love of your family’ don’t divulge any information even to extended family. “Loose Lips Sink Ships”. I wish you all well.

      • Educated Sinner says:

        PO’d
        Just filled all of my empty gas cans yesterday. Usually we give half of our garden produce away to friends, but this year we’re canning everything.

        Need to get a couple of propane tanks. Just made a gallon of Elderberry tincture today.

        Plan on picking up another 20ga. (defense) next week with as much ammo for it that I can afford.

        You’re right….Winter is not too far off.

        Pres. Regan: “It’s Morning in America”
        Barry: “It’s Winter in America and it’s going to be a dam cold one, but as long as I can play golf….WHO CARES”!

        • PO'd Patriot says:

          Good on you ES. I have an 870 in both 20 and 12 gauge. Both are camo’d with krylon paint (rattle can style). The 20 and 12 both have side saddle shell holders on the receivers as well as extended mag tubes. The 20 carries #3 Buck rounds in the tube and carry slug rounds in the side saddles. The twelve gauge carry low recoil LEO buckshot rounds in the mag tube staggered with slug rounds and four extra mixed slug/BS rounds in the side saddle. Momma and daughter like the 20 gauge as the stock has been cut down to a 12 inch “length of pull” and re-padded. Like it too myself as its faster handling with a red dot system.

          • PO'd Patriot says:

            ES, regarding canning, check out “Frugal Living on The Watkins Ranch” site. the “Rancher’s wife” has good info on canning and other items. Good site! My best to you!

  25. Educated Sinner says:

    Sort of off topic

    I heard John Whitehead on Christian talk radio this afternoon. He is the head man at the Conservative legal organization called The Rutherford Institute. They’ve been fighting the legal fight for freedom since Regan was President.

    Whitehead has just written an article where he states that “without a doubt” Obama has turned the DHS into his own “private army”.

    Now his guy has been around D.C. for decades, pleaded cases in The Supreme Court and even sued Bill Clinton when he was President.

    Whitehead went on to explain that, “Ever since Obama was elected there has been a real paranoid fear that the American people will rise up, and thus THE Government is planning for it”.

    This guy is not some loon or Alex Jones nut job, but a real conservative Washington Insider.

    • Educated Sinner says:

      FYI
      Whitehead has a very good book on how America is turning into a Police State. The book is endorsed by Ron Paul on the cover.

      Title: “A Government of Wolves”.

  26. Satori says:

    whoopsie !!!

    75 CDC staff possibly exposed to anthrax, agency says

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/19/health/cdc-possible-anthrax-exposure/index.html

    yeah
    those bio labs are real f_cking safe aren’t they ???

    Scientists To Make Deadlier Versions Of H7N9 Bird Flu In Lab

    http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-08/scientists-plan-make-deadlier-versions-h7n9-lab

    • KY Mom says:

      Who knows what diseases are being brought in with the massive influx of illegals? This situation is not isolated to the southwest. Groups of illegals are being transported (flown, bussed, etc.) to a number of different states around the country. Massachusetts and New York are now dealing with the influx of illegals being transported in.

      DEADLY DISEASES CROSSING BORDER WITH ILLEGALS
      Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet warns of dangers from ‘textbook Cloward-Piven strategy’

      “Carried by this tsunami of illegals are the invisible ‘travelers’ our politicians don’t like to mention: diseases the U.S. had controlled or virtually eradicated: tuberculosis (TB), Chagas disease, dengue fever, hepatitis, malaria, measles, plus more. I have been working on medical projects in Central and South America since 2009, so I am aware of problems these countries face from such diseases.

      A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, THE LIKES OF WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN MY LIFETIME, IS LOOMING.

      Hardest hit by exposures to these difficult-to-treat diseases will be elderly, children, immunosuppressed cancer-patients, patients with chronic lung disease or congestive heart failure.

      Drug-resistant tuberculosis is the most serious risk, but even diseases like measles can cause severe complications and death in older or immunocompromised patients.”

      “Delays to see doctors at the Phoenix VA hospital cost the lives of 58 veterans while waiting for care. This is just a portent of far more deaths to come from delays for Americans’ medical care as thousands of sick illegals swamp already overcrowded emergency rooms.

      How will these facilities stay open at all under the financial burden of this huge unfunded federal mandate to provide “free” treatment?”
      http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/deadly-diseases-crossing-border-with-illegals/

  27. southside says:

    Dear God please,send us brave men and women willing to put an end to this administration,instead of the blowhards we hsve now.

  28. Satori says:

    Prepper Tip of the Day

    inexpensive water filtration kits

    http://www.homespunenvironmental.com/category_s/34.htm

    kits for a family or a compound

    I went with this model
    everything pre-drilled
    ready for easy assembly

    http://www.homespunenvironmental.com/Bucket_Drip_Filtration_System_p/sk-1001.htm

  29. Jay Sekulow and his staff are handling this lawsuit on behalf of the tea party groups. Trust me, he’s not buying any of this trot that DC is dishing out! He’s going full steam ahead with the lawsuit no matter what she says!

  30. Autokat says:

    If the gov’t. wanted something on my I said or did 50 years ago, they would have it.

  31. get a search warrant.

    better yet, get a no-knock search warrant.

  32. When they find them, make hard copies, roll them up real tight, and cram them up obamas a$$.

  33. The emails are stored on hard copy in an old cigar box, along with Obama’s college transcripts, his real birth certificate, the original Coke recipe, and the drivers licenses of the two guys on the grassy knoll. The cigar box, a vintage 1967 Garcia y Vega original (4 for $1), is in a large trunk, very much like Al Capone’s safe. The safe is in a slightly over-priced hotel room in the midwest, 2 doors down from Jimmy Hoffa and one floor below D.B. Coopers suite…

    • Agent Provocatour says:

      you forgot about KFC’s secret recipe with 11 herbs and spices

      • Archivist says:

        There are no 11 herbs and spices. The pre-seasoned flour has been analyzed, and it contains only salt, pepper, and MSG. The real secret is the temperature of the oil and how many pounds of chicken is put in at one time so the temperature of the oil doesn’t drop too much.

        And I hear that Hoffa is buried under the end zone in Soldier Field, Detroit. I don’t know which end though.

  34. Obamination says:

    Oops, we had a crash at NSA, too. 🙂

  35. Obamination says:

    They know when you used the bathroom at school in 2nd grade.

  36. any one else notice how Utah seems to be the “home state” for the NWO ZOG CIA and some of the newer INDUSTRIAL WAR COMPLEX factories lately.

    looks to me like the “Moron Mormons” have “sold out” to the NWO ZOG.

    n.o. ;0p

    • sixpack says:

      I think the church sold out too. The Mormon church is implementing a “program” to accommodate the projected future rise in hispanic ward members. They want to rally everyone who speaks spanish around this effort, so the Bishop said.

      I told the Bishop: “Perdón, pero no participaré. No, no puedo….no hablo, cabron.”

    • lastmanstanding says:

      The top Mormon brasses G5 was recently spotted in Tel Aviv.

      Both of their goals is to make you their servant.

  37. Jim in Va. says:

    This is absolute madness. Neither I or most Americans going to buy the hard drive crash. somebody from NSA should drop a dime on Obama on this. This is so criminal!

  38. TEST says:

    Turns out we already know where the emails are. They are with Malaysian flight 370! Jay Korney, speaking on behalf of the administration, announced today that the records were being transported by a sasquatch named Herman to be turned over to Klingons from teh planet Xiridou, to be handed over at their secret embassy on an invisible island near the Bermuda Triangle.

    Oh yes. And if you like your health insurance, you can keep it, too.

  39. All those emails are at the ISP
    Just like everyone else’s
    Go and destroy the hard drive , destroy the entire computer if you want , emails go they the ISP’s servers and are there

    Fuck the lying bitch , and this lying admin
    There is no such thing as lost email , not to mention if they wanted them bad enough they have all our money to go after them

    Do you think for one second if you emailed a threat to this government and they took it seriously that they would have to get your hard drive or computer ? Don’t make me laugh
    Those emails are sitting at an Internet providers servers safe and sound

    Stop the lying!!! We’re not that stupid !

  40. sixpack says:

    I got this off of yahoo news:

    “Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day I went downtown and into a shop. I was only there for about 5 minutes, and when I came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket.

    I said to him, ‘Come on, man, how about giving a retired person a break’? He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. I called him a #$%$.’ He glared at me and wrote another ticket for having worn tires.

    So I called him a ‘doughnut eating Gestapo.’ He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he wrote a third ticket. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I abused him the more tickets he wrote. Personally, I didn’t care.

    I came downtown on the bus, and the car that he was putting the tickets on had a bumper sticker that said, ‘I Love Obama.’

    I try to have a little fun each day now that I’m retired. It’s important to my health.”

  41. The Lone Ranger says:

    Ladies and gentlemen, may I suggest that this is the SAME lie Mr. NIXON told when there was an 18-minute ERASED “gap” in the WATERGATE tapes.

    And WHY was it erased?

    It was erased to cover up or “hide” Nixon’s complicity [and that of others!] in the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    President Kennedy was shot down like a dog. All because of his Executive Order 11110 abolishing the [non]Federal Reserve– 9 privately owned banks that he discovered was enriching itself at the expense of every taxpayer in America.

    One book title called THAT triangulated murder “HIGH TREASON” and the same author followed it up with another book called “KILLING THE TRUTH”!

    And that’s EXACTLY what is going on HERE!

    HIGH TREASON!

    And the ATTEMPTED killing of the Truth.

    But two simple facts remain:

    One, ultimately, lies canNOT kill the Truth;

    Two, since the president and his cronies REFUSE to publish the NSA tapes/data to prove their innocence, they are GUILTY!

    As the great (fictional) detective Sherlock Holmes stated,

    “Whenever you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, MUST be the TRUTH!”

    Your Honor, there is a God, and there is Justice, if not in THIS lifetime, then in the next, and it is for Eternity.

    Ladies & gentlemen of both the Electorate and of the IMPEACHMENT Panel, the Prosecution rests.

    – the Lone Ranger

    “Truth never damages a cause that is just.” – Gandhi

    “The Truth shall set you free.” – Jesus

    “The truly evil don’t reside in jail.” – M. Scott Peck, M.D., in “People of the Lie”

    • Archivist says:

      The tape was erased because Nixon was listening to some music and didn’t want anyone to know what it was. It just so happens that the gap in the tape is the same length as “Alice’s Restaurant” by Arlo Guthrie. I heard about that many years ago.

  42. True, these records exist with daily back-ups performed each night by all federal agencies. They are known as historical records and cannot be destroyed.

    Bureaucrats are wanting to run our daily lives to make us a slave on the USG plantation.

  43. sixpack says:

    From Yahoo comments:

    In a recent affidavit involving a Terrorism case where emails were lost, FBI Special Agent Donald Hale said “Computer files or remnants of such files can be recovered months or even years after they have been downloaded onto a storage medium, deleted, or viewed via the Internet,” Hale explained “Even when files have been deleted, they can be recovered months or years later using forensic tools.” Hale explained that when a person deletes a file on a computer, the data doesn’t actually disappear, but remains on the hard drive until it gets overwritten by new data. The computer’s operating system may also keep records of deleted files in something called a “swap” or “recovery” file. Computer users typically do not erase or delete this evidence, because……………wait for it…………special software is typically required for that task,” agent Hale wrote.