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    ALERT: Government Freezes EBT Funds: Orders States to Withhold Transfers to Food Stamp Recipients

    Mac Slavo
    October 15th, 2013
    SHTFplan.com
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    welfare-stateThis weekend America witnessed a limited crash in the computer systems that manage electronic benefit transfers across the country. Within hours of the crash panicked food stamp recipients who were left with no way to feed their families rushed grocery store shelves to obtain everything they could while the system was down.

    The outage lasted less than a day, but it proved what many already knew, that America had become a nation so dependent on government subsidies that any glitch in the system could lead to total pandemonium.

    But if you thought that isolated incident was bad, imagine what could happen next month.

    We say next month because the USDA, which oversees the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), has just issued an order to SNAP agency directors calling for their respective States to implement an emergency contingency program because of government funding issues. In a letter obtained by the Crossroads Urban Center food pantry, the USDA is directing state agencies to, “delay their November issuance files and delay transmission to State Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) vendors until further notice.”

    What this means is that should Congress fail to increase the debt ceiling this week, come November there will literally be millions of people in the United States who will have exactly zero dollars transferred to their EBT cards.

    What will happen to the nearly 50 million people who depend on these benefits to survive?

    Think this past weekend and multiply it across the entirety of the United States of America.

    In the State of Utah the immediate effect of the USDA’s contingency plan will be a freeze in benefits for 100,000 people. Richard Phillips, a homeless man who depends on the government’s monthly distributions, warned what would happen next:

    It’s going to cause problems… because then you’re going to come to find out that you’re going to have people starting to steal and do what they have to do to survive. 

    Video Report via The Daily Sheeple:

    (Watch at Youtube)

    Here is the USDA letter in full:

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    1. WeTheSheeple says:

      Just O tightening the screws on Congress to give them an excuse to comply.

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      • Swinging on a star says:

        The regime is playing a dangerous game with the fragile to begin with stability of this country. We are truly living under a dictatorial government. They have shown how little they care for the citizens that they are supposed to represent by forcing the weak ones into submission and degrading them by withholding food.

        The dear leader and his regime have put this country into the dire situation that we are now in and if they have their way, blood will be shed while they hover over and drool at the thought of owning the very soul of a whole society.

        The government is evil at its core, they have created a dependent society by praying upon the ignorance of the uneducated and using their ineptness to control them as though they were nothing more than disposable pets.

        We are entering into a very bleak and depressed time, the souls of men will be tested and freedom will be repressed in a way similar to the era of Hitler. God help us because the regime wants you either in the boat with them or dead.

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        • DRD5508 says:

          Next it will be Gov’t checks (direct deposits) and it is coming soon. Hopefully many more will get on board to why you don’t want the gov’t involved in our retirements and food allocations, and many more areas.
          Twice this year, my credit union has had the phone service closed. The recording said ” …. is closed at this time.”
          It really is time to reset and remove this gov’t.

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          • OutWest says:

            I think this year, getting a “lump of coal”
            for Christmas would be a God send.

            But then, obama probably wouldn’t let us burn
            it anyway. Dang carbon pollution, ya know.

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            • Be informed says:

              TRAP. To make someone even more desperate and dependent on whatever, you temporarily take it away. After a little while of going without and a few days of panic, you have the need even more so engrained. People are then totally in fear of it ever going away forever. You have tens of millions of voters the next election cycles that are guaranteed to support those that support welfare. Clever and evil.

              The big monkey wrench in all of this is that the country goes down with all those dependent on the government. Like I said before, is BO and his cronies will dump and shake loose those loyal to him and his party like mud on shoes. This is what the old agades is about; beware of those offering gifts, and nothing in life is actually free and you end up paying for it somehow.

              For you BO and all those loyal to you and your future plans of destruction of America. :( . You all are pathetic and some people see right through you and your “plans”. BO you stink!

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              • DRD5508 says:

                BI, don’t be so kind in your discription of BO. Let it out, pathetic and stinking are way too nice for this evil excuse for an American Traitor and his varmin.

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                • George Gefferson says:

                  It’s pathetic the Obama lovers I see receiving Social Security and Medicare. Makes me sick to see people getting wealfare like that. What ever happened to being an Independant American?

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                • The Old Coach says:

                  So, I worked hard for 47 years, never even went on unemployment, paid FICA all that time, but because I’m now living on SS pension at 68 years old with a bad back and bad knees I’m a Halfrican-supporting lowlife. Thanks, pal, and just see if I give you a moldy saltine if you ever show up at my door.

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              • durango kidd says:

                These crisis’ created by O’Bummer are a blessing in disguise. The Sheeple will be aroused from their slumber and spurred to action. Right now they are asking “How am I going to feed my family?” The question they need to ask themselves is: “Why do I need food stamps to feed my family?”

                So far the O Administration has done a better PR job on the Retards, but eventually it will be the actions of this Administration that will cause the American people to Remember in November (2014).

                Engage your employees or be starved and impoverished by them. They have Free Trade, but WE have Free Will. Kill the FED, Death to the NWO.

                :-)

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                • braveheart says:

                  Swinging, BI, DRD5508, and DK, I couldn’t have said it any better. Now we know when the schumer could hit the air circulation machine, but I think it still depends on how the dog-and-pony show plays out. We still need to see what happens on the 17th. All of the POS politicians in DC are playing one of the most dangerous games anyone can think of. It’s high time for something to backfire on them. time to hit the reset button and take this country back before it’s too late. Even 5% of the EBT crowd looting and rioting can do an awful lot of damage. Once they’ve looted the stores, they’ll start going to residential areas. I’ll have my “ventilation team” ready when it gets to that point.

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                • Average Guy says:

                  Individuals have Free Will to trade freely with others.
                  Only the state and their minions get in the way.
                  Which are you?

                  Also, I don’t have employees.
                  There’s some thugs stealing money from everybody while pretending to be their employees. Is that what you refer to?
                  If so, that’s funny, I never once thought of mafia thugs as my employees. What fool does?

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                • SWFL says:

                  It won’t go on long enough to motivate people to become self-sufficient, that would defeat the purpose. Just long enough to cause panic and ingrain the response so it can be evoked with just the threat, and often enough to cause the chaos wanted for leverage.
                  I think this is one of those power plays that can quickly get out of control and burn the hand that lit the match.

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                • Swinging on a star says:

                  durango kidd,

                  Don’t you wonder where the baby daddies are for the woman with six kids who wanted to know how she was going to feed her kids with her ebt card not working? Probably six different guys who are all on the dole themselves. Who is addressing that national crisis?

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                • Feisty Old Broad says:

                  @Durango Kidd
                  I have often wondered if obama, pelosi, reid, etc. are actually so arrogantly egotistical that they believe the NWO “shadows” will place them high in their regime IF they manage to bring their “hope and change” into fruition…..

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                • durango kidd says:

                  Average Guy: There is NO such thing as “Free Trade”. The Free Trade promoted by the NWO (and foolish Libertarians with your perspective)is NOT “free”. It is Managed Trade and it has real costs: 60,000 factories and 70 million American jobs.

                  It is managed by NAFTA, GATT, the WTO, and Most Favored Nation Status.

                  Free Trade hasn’t existed in North America since the American Indian sold Manhattan Island to the Dutch for $24 worth of beads and trinkets, and allowed them to build “Free Trade Zones” and populate them with other Europeans.

                  How did that “Free Trade” work out for them? LMFAO!!! :-)

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                • durango kidd says:

                  SOAS: Yes, you are right about the baby daddy problem. I met a black guy about ten years ago who had 9 kids and 9 different baby mamas and was hooking up with a new chick.

                  He was working two jobs to make child support payments, as American fathers go to jail in Arizona for failure to pay child support. Mexican baby daddy’s go back to Mexico while the taxpayers pick up the tab.

                  Arizona Medicade paid $200 million of taxpayer’s funds last year for unwed mothers to have babies. The largest ethnic group by far was hispanic.

                  The tab for the black guy with 9 kids and 9 different baby mama’s was $900 a month; or $100 for each kid. Guess who is paying for those kids even if the baby daddy manages to stay out of Sheriff Joe’s jail?

                  Engage your employees or they will tax you to pay for the babies of fools and foreigners. :-)

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                • durango kidd says:

                  FOB: Reid for example, came to Congress initially, in a wave of “reform”. Hard to believe but its true. It just goes to show, that once inside the Beltway under current reality, they must drink the AIPAC Kool Aid or go home.

                  The one thing that O’Bummer has managed to avoid, and I applaud the SOB for it, is refraining from attacking Iran on Israeli behalf. Bibi never reckoned on a Muslim POTUS. LMAO!

                  Current reality being the lack of involvement of the majority of the American people with their government. Until WE engage the PTB en mass, and in no uncertain terms. We will continue to be victims of the NWO. :-)

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              • Chip says:

                Brilliant post! Progressives would have 47 million captive votes. Obama was elected with just 52 million. Hmmm….

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                • Reynaldo says:

                  When you add the number of delusional left-wing progressives there are in this country to 47 million then it becomes obvious how dismal our outlook is. These idiot progressives, the worse things get the more govt they want.

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              • Unreconstructed Southron says:

                I think his real initials are BS, BI. But I’m sure BO is appropriate.

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              • Wilson says:

                Assuming this comes to pass and there is no funding of food stamps/SNAP/EBT cards etc, this means we have been put on notice that the SHTF scenario will begin November 1, 2013. It will be nationwide in scope, and what happened in a few places last weekend when EBT cards failed to work will go nationwide.

                To put it another way, you have a minimum of two weeks to finish your food preps. T minus 16 days and counting down until November 1.

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                • Slick One says:

                  If the welfare, EBT, WIC, TANF, Section 8 housing vouchers, SSI…..are not paid will the Federal Government quit stealing my money,(Income Tax)out
                  of my paycheck?

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                • MasterScott says:

                  That will be horrible bday present, unless the revolution starts then it would be worth it! (just for the record, I’m not on government assistance, just saying it would suck to have to hunker down on my bday)

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                • Wilson says:

                  T minus 15 days and counting….

                  Wait, there may be a “deal” from the senate?

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              • apache54 says:

                Hey BI
                i noticed there are TWO negatives on you comment, so this is to those TWO idiots, we are going to take this country back and people who think like you will be lucky to survive !! you are idiots and should be barred from this country YOU are the reason we are in this pickle, because of your insane brain process !!

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              • Cede says:

                I have nothing worth saying about BO. There’s only one person in the country that isn’t doing his job though. And he, above all others needs to take his sole position seriously. Who is it you ask? He is the Provost Marshal of the United States. And if you don’t know what he can do, you should find out.

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              • Tina says:

                Just think how easy it will be to implement “the Mark” when you have a bunch of hungry people.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Really great video titled, “NWO Prepare Yourself!!! 2013″ and put out by NWO Truth Channel. VERY, VERY GOOD!! I watched it twice!

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            I dont want the government involved in my life in any way shape or form. They can go to hell.

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          • Reynaldo says:

            I just read this morning over on survivalblog that the IMF has published plans to potentially give EU bank accounts a 10% haircut like was done in Cyprus. We’re going to be next. It’s only going to ramp up after that. I wouldn’t doubt a false flag financial crisis of some kind to give them the excuse to “institutionalize” all IRAs and 401Ks. I’m seriously thinking of cashing mine out even with the penalties and buying land.

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        • sharko says:

          Well written, swinging says it precisely. Stay strong.

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          • pissinwiththewind says:

            Read em’ and weep!

            The signs are in the cards TPTB are dealing out. It’s all about control. These are just bumps in the road for now. When the real SHTF, the sheeples will go bezerk and looking for a saviour.

            The Unaffordable Care Crap, and the monkeying around with the “entitlements”, are just “tests” for now. Everything connected is a way to get info on peoples and later use that to force them into the one world system.
            It’s a test run for the “mark of the beast” system.

            Play along or get your driver’s license revoked. Play along or get your mortgage monkeyed with. No driver’s license, and it’s a juggling act to keep a job. Loose your home/mortgage, and it’s, live like a kid with the parents/grandparents. No one to live with, and it’s, bum under a bridge living, or take the mark, (pledge allegience to the Head beast) and get all the freebies.

            It’s coming, and it could be sooner than most realize.

            Thank God for Jesus Christ and common sense, preps, and SHTF Plan. Otherwise folks are just walking a tightrope into the last days without a safety net.

            God Bless all Christians!

            PWTW.

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        • Leonard says:

          Just think what will happen when they control your access to doctors or hospitals…

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          • sixpack says:

            They already control that, just not to the extent you’re thinking of…yet.

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          • StayOnTheLandGetOffTheShip says:

            Meh, that is only an issue to those who think them absolutely necessary. Research and ask yourself why hospitals are all registered as ports of entry. People survived long before death dealers (aka doctors) and entry points (aka hospitals) of new chattel property (aka slaves) were engrained as an absolutely necessary part of this society.

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        • JohnFornaro says:

          The Republicans know about the dangers of food riots. The letter was deliberately released at this time, in order to crank up the pressure on them. The current Executive branch has been consolidating the power that was initially collected by President Bush. They are truly drunk with power.

          I’m thinking that the Republicans are going to cave.

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        • SHANNI says:

          WEllll Wellll WElll…ALL those of you who think you are independent and going through this life in America by your own “true grit”…think again! This type of dependence on the government by scare tactics is going to affect EVERYONE!
          Everything you think you have can be taken away in a moment. It will either be done by this corrupt government, or the ONLY true Government sovereign over all. We are teetering on the disaster in this country and have been warned by those really paying attention for a while. So, if you are one who is honest enough to say that you are going through a time of lack right now (dependent or independent); hold on to the things that really matter and get rid of the things that don’t. Don’t continue to live your lavish wasteful lifestyles, Americans! Prepare for all that is coming and help others near you because standing together in preparation and truth will be the only thing that will lead to real survival in times to come.

          FYI…the “retards” remark…LOOSE THAT! My eldest son has Downs Syndrome…RETARDED DOES NOT MEAN STUPID! Look it up!

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          • Anonymous says:

            How right you are about the misuse of the word, “retarded.” I think of God’s special people as God’s perfect people. Think about it: they are incapable of sin.

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        • Reynaldo says:

          Only half the society is dependent, but they have divided us by forcing one half against their will to provide for the other half. I have no problem with giving to charity or helping my neighbor get out of a jam. That’s how it used to be done before big industry in collusion with Congress and the Presidency destroyed our communities. If you got sick, lost your job, or broke your leg and couldn’t work your community would pitch in and help you, and then you’d return the favor when someone else needed it. Our communities have been Walmarted and strip malled to death. There is no pitching in, there’s just the fascists and do-gooders who think it’s ok to use the govt to force people to feed a growing and out of control entitlement class. It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out how unsustainable such a system is and how it will soon turn out. Our only hope is, when the crash happens, instead of us turning on each other we take out the real culprits and burn Wash. DC and Wall Street to the ground, leaving a few hundred charred bodies hanging from the lamp posts.

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      • Kindle says:

        Ok, I must be getting dense..some stuff that doesn’t quite make sense.

        This was issued on the 11th and the snafu happened on the 12th.

        I get that some states issue their “issuance files as early as the 15th of the month” for the next month. So what if they submit the files that doesn’t mean they automatically get issued? Or does it? If so, then that’s poor programming…should be able to control the process better than that.

        “In the interest of preserving maximum flexibility, we are..blah, blah…delay transmission..blah, blah..until further notice”.

        Something doesn’t jive. If they want to shut it down they can do it faily instantaniously…sending a notice weeks in advance…for what? Don’t transmit?

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        • Kindle says:

          James Rawles on Alex Jones right now talking about the EBT glitch and other stuff.

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          • azam1986 says:

            Have to listen to that one tonight on the replay. Both good guys to get information from. Alex just has to calm down on his conspiracy theories and stop yelling as much. He will become much more creditable and more people would listen to him.

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            • Stay Frosty says:

              I too will listen to it when I get the chance later tonight. However, I like when Alex starts yelling. There is a time for mature and gentlemenly conversation, but you can just hear the passion in his voice. Sometimes yelling and raising your voice is what’s needed.

              I can just feel the tension in the air. Things are starting to happen that we as a prepper community have been predicting for years. Keep up the good fight and stay frosty, my friends.

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        • Yes, this is a fear tactic. Not really designed to light a fire under the ass of CONgress. This is to light a fire under the 50 million recipients to call CONgress and light the fire. It’s all part of the professional wrestling show with audience participation. Fucking pathetic.

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          • Hammerun says:

            There is not a chilly chance in hell this would be allowed to occur. It would be like the 1994 riots on a magnum dose of steroids. Assuming the 50 million number is correct, lop off 90% and 5 million go rioting. The damage would be nearly unrecoverable, and of course all blamed on the republicans. Who’d a thunk?
            This report is a BOO tactic and nothing but…
            This is barely worth the time and energy to read it.

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            • Paranoid says:

              You are right, but not right. Yes it is a political ploy to pressure Congress. But it is also one more crack in faith and trust in Government as a whole. The history books will tell you WWI started from killing Archduke Ferdinand. Everyone just: ACCIDENTALLY HAD MILLIONS OF GUYS AND MILLIONS TONS OF WEAPONS READY AT AN INSTANT’S NOTICE. You can panic an action for no good reason. If everyone just buys one less Xmass present than usual because they are worried about bad times, bad times are here. Worry ahead of the crowd, act when it arrives.

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            • kendo says:

              5 million go rioting 100′s of 1000′s get killed and order gets restored and the dead get carted off by rail. they are built and ready

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            • Slick One says:

              If we have 1994 riots on steroids, then I guess we will need a shoot out at the OK Corral on steroids as an answer! :)

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          • sixpack says:

            I think you nailed it Joe R. They do want the sheeple to hound their reps, giving obummer more leverage to force them into what he wants, with pressure from their constituents…that way he can claim “the people have spoken”.

            I’ll make a special point of calling mine and telling him to hold the line. NOMI.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Its is complicated,
          Those programs are federally funded through USDA but are implemented at the state level,
          So the funds go through several transfers before reaching each individual account for each recipient and some recipients have deposits from various programs, in some cases there is a lag between the state issuing the funds and the state taking in the funds from the feds.

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          • Kindle says:

            Kula,
            I still don’t get it…sorry..brain must be getting old. So what if the transmission are sent…why can’t they just sit in the database? Just cuz they transmit doesn’t mean the feds or state have to push the button to release the funds.

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            • Kulafarmer says:

              I honestly dont know, you know how bureaucracy is though, you have all these self important people with government jobs trying to show how they are the most important and indispensible minions all trying to put their thumb on someone,
              Its all bullshit to me, but have spoken at length with an old classmate who works for the state in whatever department deals with the snap and ebt system, is just one big cluster fuck according to her,

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              • Kindle says:

                My point is/was…I don’t think it’s real. Doesn’t make sense.

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              • sixpack says:

                As far as I’m concerned, the fed govt is a layer of govt we don’t really need anyway. If you think it through line by line, there really is NOTHING the fed govt does right now, that the states themselves couldn’t do for themselves—especially if they kept the money they have to give to the feds (so the feds can “grant” it back to them with strings attached later).

                The States can manage their own parks, with the same money they give to the fed for the parks/forestry service.

                The States can maintain their own roads and bridges without federal intervention.

                The States can prosecute and confine their own criminals, even the worst ones. We don’t need two sets of laws, anyway.

                The list of advantages is long. The best thing is, we’d not have to pay hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats for doing NOTHING. No more special treatment for govt employees and the price tags that come with that.

                Personally, I’d keep the NSA, BUT they would be forbidden under penalty of prison to deal with ANYTHING inside this country. Their TOTAL job would be to look for incoming harm. There would be no more fusion centers and federal surveillance stateside. NONE. I’d keep the FBI, only to hunt down multi-state offenders. No more stings for them either.

                If Law enforcement can’t catch bad guys in their own back yard, they get trained until they figure out how to do their job. There would be little time to set up useless stings and watch people in their own homes, hoping they do something wrong to themselves. There would be no more inchoate crimes.

                There would be NO MORE Homeland security, NO bureaucrat would be doing ARMED RAIDS on the people. FEMA would be gone and the States would have those funds to handle their own disasters as they see fit. FEMA would be out of the COG business. Most of the alphabet soup agencies would be dissolved and those people would have to get REAL jobs.

                We would improve this system greatly just by doing away with the federal commerce law and let the states make those laws for themselves…AND keep those funds for themselves.

                There would be NO MORE lobbyists and NO MORE corporate entities pulling strings with their vast assets, mostly stolen from here and abroad.

                The white house would mainly be for entertaining world relations with other nations, NOT trying to bomb everyone else into submission.

                When it comes down to it, we don’t need nearly as many bureaucrats as we have now. They just suck up vast amounts of money and think they are above the law and the Constitution, so why not just get rid of them altogether?

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                • Ancient Echoes says:

                  Closing down all these agencies will only add to the welfare rolls, do you realize this?

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                • Tactical says:

                  AMEN Sixpack as with all of your posts and informative comments brother.

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                • braveheart says:

                  Sixpack, I like your ideas, but why not take it further and just eliminate federal govt. altogether? THAT is where all the BS started in the first place. I don’t mind supporting local and state govt., but I think we would be better off WITHOUT a federal govt. No more federal law enforcement, bureaucracies, professional politicians, etc.

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                • sixpack says:

                  I would say get rid of the entire federal govt, but I can see a need to keep watch on other countries. I think getting rid of the federal reserve and the UN would get rid of a major portion of corruption—how else would the NWO have a death grip on us, but through our money source and the UN (A.K.A NWO)?

                  I personally don’t think our govt would be half as corrupt if we could just get the foreign interests out of it. How else can it ever be “by the people, for the people” when half of them are aligned to some other country?

                  Foreign interests and foreign money DO NOT BELONG IN OUR GOVT.

                  Maybe I’m a little naive, but the biggest banks and corporations are GLOBAL for a reason—because, that’s how they can control us without hurting their own interests, by ravaging us from a distance.

                  If corporations and banks had to suffer the same economic as the rest of us, they’d have no incentive to ruin things here at home for profit, because it would be THEIR home too and incidentally THEIR LOSSES.

                  Even monsatan isn’t stupid enough to shit in their own water fountain.

                  My thought is simply this: we’ve been usurped by foreign interests, and we’ll never be whole again until we’re wholly American in DC.

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                • Its an argument Ive been making for decades…states rights need to be upheld and the federal govt liquidated…we can all get along as Americans without a federal overlord…which is all they are…simple agreements will suffice between the states…..time for states to opt out of the system and for folks to do the same…

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            • CWinOR says:

              from the sound of it (them “sending files), it is probably a file sent by the state via an ftp server that runs on a schedule, and then on the receiving end, their software picks up these uploaded files to process- also on a schedule. it would most likely be as simple as the folks on the receiving end (USDA in this case) to “pause” that scheduled process. But that would take a vague familiarity with that software, and sad to say, but it’s likely the USDA operators of that system just doesn’t have that. in many cases they’d take a “don’t TOUCH that! it’s working!” approach- so for them, it’d be easier to send letters, than to figure out the very simple software, or try to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong.

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              • Kindle says:

                CWinOR,
                Thank you. From an I.T. software perspective what they are saying does not make sense. In my forrmer life the company I worked for downloaded many million bits of data everyday and then we on our end would act or not act on it.

                I’m not buying it. If it is real then I think it is only for purposes of spreading fear. They have to have a more advanced system than that.

                I mean, come on, the only way to stop the funds going out is to not have the data transmitted? No way.

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                • Kindle says:

                  You can “pause that scheduled process”. This is bull pukey at its finest.

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                • CWinOR says:

                  Kindle- I’m sure alot of people would like to think it’s more advanced than that, but you’d be surprised how many financial transactions work EXACTLY that way. I used to do IT Disaster Recovery for many of the largest Credit Unions in the country. And that right there was how a great deal of them are done…even as we speak. The flow can be stopped or paused on either end, but for a layperson, the most simple method would be to simply not put the files that would be uploaded to the recipient into the directory the FTP software is scripted to look for them in- hence “don’t send us your files”. Besides- in IT, most good admins still use the KISS methodology. fewer potential points of failure is good, overly/unnecessarily complex=BAD. simple=elegant, more reliable.

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                • Kindle says:

                  CWinOR,
                  Thanks, I knew it was possible…sometimes knowing networking, programming, i.t., etc gets in the way.

                  You are right about the KISS method…but it’s truely pathetic. I still think it’s a fear mongering thing.

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              • Kindle says:

                “so for them, it’d be easier to send letters, than to figure out the very simple software, or try to troubleshoot it if something goes wrong”.

                If this true, then they need to go down to the local junior high school and get some kid to show them how.

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                • CWinOR says:

                  i couldn’t agree more. but if you were an I.T Manager with no technical knowledge (which is sadly VERY common today), and you knew your staff wasn’t all that sharp (pretty much the norm these days), and the system “wasn’t broken”…would you want the monkeys with keyboards screwing around with anything? Nope. because then, when it came time to resume, instead of just adding the files to the directory they’re looked for by the software, you might wind up having to call tech support to have them fix what your guys “fixed”. seen it waaayyyy to many times.

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                • Kindle says:

                  True, but given that there is several weeks notice they could have an upper level IT tech weenie on hand to manage it….if they wanted to.

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            • Not so much says:

              Like @JoeRepublic intimated above.

              It’s meant to panic. They put something like this out right now and they can stir up as many of the LIVers as they can as soon as they can.

              Essentially, this is Obama turning up the squawk box noise on his gimme-shit army to make republicans cave, just one more time….

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          • Reynaldo says:

            That just shows how screwed up, convoluted, and intentionally obfuscated the entire system is, and how they use it to siphon off billions everyday to their corporate and banking buddies.

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        • KY Mom says:

          Frightening, the thought of this nationwide.

          Apparently last weekend was a “test”.

          It sounds like the govt. is following the orders…

          “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.” anonymous Park Service ranger

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        • George Gefferson says:

          Hidden due to low comment rating. Click to read it.

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          • senormechanico says:

            George,
            That’s MY money I paid into the SS system at the point of a gun.
            To break even, I’d have to live to at least a hundred years old, if even then.

            I agree the system is a ripoff, but why not dump congress perks instead?

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            • Pathetic joke says:

              Señor. Congressional perks? You think 538 people have “perks” that add up to the benefits paid by social security? Social security will have to be reduced or eliminated. It doesn’t matter how much duress or how long you would have to live to break even. The money has been misspent and is gone. Sounds harsh but everyone doesn’t want to lose what they are owed or want. If I were you, I would start saving outside of social security.

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          • Why would we want to end Social Security, we worked and paid into it, you want to end it fine, but are YOU going to give me my money back?

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            • The Old Coach says:

              Sad to say, SS was always a Ponzi scheme. Money paid in today is used yesterday to pay retirees pensions. Not oonly that, but Clinton and a Dem congress opened up the so-called “lockbox” and dumped all the money into the general fund, which is how he got to claim that he “balanced the budget”.

              Does the Government owe us the pension? Well, by law, yes.

              CAN they pay it? If the choose to.

              WILL they pay it? Not of the Halfrican Dictator has his way. Retirees are not his constituency.

              We old folks may be prepping for a holocaust, and this time it’s not going to be jews and gypsies.

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              • Butterknife says:

                For both communist and non-communist mass killings, “genocides occurred at moments of extreme social crisis, often generated by the very policies of the regimes.” They are not inevitable but are political decisions.
                by hook or crook

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              • John W. says:

                The Supreme Court ruled a long time ago that SSI is a tax and not a pension. They are under no obligation to pay you squat. The country has an income problem due to all the offshoring and the importing of millions of the third world who can never pay their own way. There is no way the whole scheme cannot collapse all the defict spending does is delay the day and keep those who caused the mess in power longer which is what it is all about. The elites and their power and wealth.

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            • slingshot says:

              Depends on how old you are. Most will never see SS.

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            • Reynaldo says:

              The money has already been spent. I’m 53 now and I don’t expect to see a dime of it. In fact, in preparation for having to fend for myself in my later years my wife and I are “retiring” within the next 2 years and setting up a homestead off the grid while we’re still able and agile enough to do it. The kinks should be out and running smoothly by the time we’re in our 60s and slowing down. The govt can go take a hike.

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          • braveheart says:

            George Gefferson, f#$% you! My dad lives on SS and a federal pension. All of us have been paying into SS forever. that’s our money and yours you’re talking about, you retard.

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            • John W. says:

              Well if he has a Federal pension then he is under the WEP which reduces his SS to almost nothing. At least he has a Federal pension which is better than SS if he is in the old system which was self funded until the criminals stole all the money from it.

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            • Kulafarmer says:

              Ive had to pay into this crap since i started working at 14,
              Now am 50,
              Will most likely NEVER smell any of my money again.
              TPTB can go fu$k themselves and their full retirement and medical too!

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            • Average Guy says:

              braveheart, you and your dad got suckered into a ponzi scheme. You got ripped off. Your money is GONE! Poof! It’s Gone!

              So now your solution is to act all high and mighty and help to rip off the rest of us and future generations.

              How’s that cool? Or the least bit right?

              It makes you and your’n no better than the mobsters that rule us.

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            • Urban dog says:

              Doesn’t mean you should keep passing the debt to the future generation. You are such a liberal brave.

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        • think “platinum” as the last bruhaha before things go south. god bless “everyone”

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        • JohnFornaro says:

          The letter does say “the 15th of the month”. It is left for the reader to infer which month. Possibly the recent EBT shutdown, which happened really close to the 15th of October, was the intent of the letter.

          Still, the hypothesis that they are experimenting with what would happen with EBT cutoff seems supported by these circumstances. If they raise the debt ceiling and all that, then the EBT threat will be delayed, I’m thinking.

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        • veggimama says:

          send the notice in advance to tptb can bunker down. This is not an ob dem/rep problem, but a much bigger underground genocide plan. also if people are paying attention, and watch the news, they will be prepared, and use the remainder of their snap benefits to stock up. not a huge chance of that happening, but a i have a little hope for that. if people are forewarned there is the illusion of safety from the hungry masses. never forget that no funding is cut to spying programs, medicaid etc… you may not get govt funded food, but sure as hell can get govt funded healthcare. wtf?
          and of course this happens right before winter sets in when people have little chance to grow their own, not to mention heat their homes… wonder if HEAP benefits will be suspended as well? comet ISON set to pass by early nov… probably has much to do with the lack of negotiations on budget and debt ceiling. distractions…
          “one great big festering neon distraction” (tool)
          we seem to be facing bigger problems than snap benefits being cut off.

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      • Iowa says:

        If you had to choose between your sigma 40, 12 guage Turkey Thug, or your 22 Colt M4 30 rd mags…what would you use for self defense against Zombies…?

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        • Just Me says:

          Why choose???????????? I can carry all 3 with no problem.

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        • lastmanstanding says:

          Bring whatever you got to the table and show no mercy whatsoever.

          …and let God sort us out.

          I really want to stay with my family, friends and those that are like-minded…and be left the fuck alone.

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          • Average Guy says:

            You should always show mercy, lastmanstanding.

            Otherwise, once again, you’ll be just like them.

            Anyway, I like your last line:

            I really want to stay with my family, friends and those that are like-minded…and be left the fuck alone.

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        • Paranoid says:

          If it was just one small attack, no doubt the shotgun. No finer weapon in the world than a 5-7 shot pump riot shotgun for stopping a few bunched up zombies. Just the cha-ching of loading one up works VERY well. On the other hand even a 22 LR has a lot more range than a shotgun and you can have thousands of rounds of ammo. Lot like queston are big boobs better than small ones? Quality, reliability, availability, and how they feel in your hand are far more important.

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          • The Old Coach says:

            Shotgun for home defense, until the apocalypse ends modern medical care. Then even the lowly .22 becomes an instrument of fear. Up until WW1 or so every sane crook was terrified of getting gut-shot with even the tiniest bullets, because no matter what he/she got in the short run, within a week he/she would die an extremely painful and lingering death due to peritonitis.

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            • braveheart says:

              Old Coach, AMEN about the .22LR. I own 3 .22s myself, including the trusty Ruger 10/22. People become shocked when they find out what the .22LR can really do. It’s the most underestimated caliber I know of. Get shot in the gut or face with a .22 and you WILL need medical attention, your day WILL be ruined. .22 is what John Hinckley used on President Reagan back in 1981. Go to Wikipedia and type in Reagan Assasination Attempt. Very interesting story. The president lost more than half of his blood in the operating room. Jim Brady was struck by a round that severed his spinal cord and paralyzed him for life. His wife, Sara Brady, turned into a POS gun grabber because of the attack. NEVER, EVER, UNDERESTIMATE THE .22LR PROJECTILE!

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          • skeptic says:

            This may be too t.v. oriented. The sound of a pump shotgun is overrated. If I were in that much of a defensive situation all that would be heard is the tiny click of a safety being tripped.

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          • John W. says:

            What makes you think they will not have the same or better weapons? Making assumptions like you are could get you killed. Most of these people will have been just like you until a couple of days before that. Gum safes and all.

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          • Slick One says:

            When the EBT riots start will we have to buy licenses and what will be the limit on moochers? With sufficent rioting, attacks and general violence,the right to bear arms might become a defacto situation.

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      • Kenneth says:

        So do you think that the recent “glitch” may have been intentional in order to demonstrate to the recalcitrant Republicans what will happen if they don’t authorize more money-printing, and that this letter was “leaked” by the administration in order to grease the wheels of chaos even more? If so, this would be a very memorable case of “good politics” (i.e. villany).

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        • Kindle says:

          good question

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        • John W. says:

          The country can no longer work with the present players in charge. It will just gradually wind down to third world status which has been the plan of the left for a long time. You see the slums of Kenya and see horror, they see pay back for real and imagined oppression when they get them to be the norm in America. These people are not normal and their hatred has warped them. Never forget that they hate you and everything about your way of life.

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      • Iguana Green says:

        There won’t be a shutdown. Food stamps will continue. It’s all a big scare tactic. They do it every year.
        Wake up! But soon, Obama and his minions will pull the trigger. And there will be no food. The time isn’t right for Obama’s plan yet. String them along a little longer he might say? No?

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      • So “people” will be motivated to do what they have to do (aka riot and stealing food) but not be motivated to work…. these are the people you are saying the govt doesnt care about? neither do i

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      • The repubics have caved, as usual. Once again they accepted promises that have already been forgotten. O has no incentive to negotiate with them on anything now. The coup is essentially complete.
        Boner & co. obviously don’t remember that when despots seize power, they always permanently silence potential opposition. O is not the grateful type.

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      • A Christian Man says:

        Same BullShit different Day!

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    2. Canadian Vet says:

      50 million people without food or supplemental money for bills or housing? There will be a lot of scared, hungry and desperate people out there, most with children to feed. It is going to be very, very messy and fast.

      I strongly suggest those of you who have the option to go about armed take that option and keep something bigger in your vehicles. You might need that.

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      • azam1986 says:

        That’s another reason i carry every day.
        My office is ten miles from my house. Locked loaded and ready to go. Got the BOB and all.

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        • MiVidaLoca says:

          I am so jealous! While we live way out in the country, I commute a bit over 75 miles per day. I’m good to bug in, but the trick is getting there should the SHTF on a workday.

          Be safe!

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          • CWinOR says:

            I’m in a similar boat. so my BOB has been renamed to GHB- Get Home Bag. It may take me a few days if it comes to that, but that’s where my family will be, so I WILL make it home.

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        • Canadian Vet says:

          And nobody should overlook putting together a get-home bag too, with the gear and supplies to hike home if need be. And don’t forget some practical and well-worn clothes that blend in with the locals.

          But do make sure your pack also blends in. Say, plain and black and left in the sun to fade for a while.

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        • braveheart says:

          I already carry certain self-defense items in my truck with me everywhere. Looks like I’ll be adding something extra.

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    3. Ranch says:

      This will spark the chaos we’ve been preparing for.

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    4. Ghostrighter says:

      “”What will happen to the nearly 50 million people who depend on these benefits to survive?”"

      Shit, I’m gonna need more ammo!

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      • DRD5508 says:

        Ghost, yesterday, found Academy actually had a good stock of ammo with lower prices than the past year. One thing I noticed is how a few manufacturers are trying to sell box quanities of 20 verses the usual 50.

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        • PDXer says:

          “One thing I noticed is how a few manufacturers are trying to sell box quanities of 20 verses the usual 50.”

          If you understand the “Candy Bar Theory” you have your answer to that statement. To keep candy bars at the same price they make them smaller until they come out with the King Size version that was the original size to begin with at a higher price. Repeat. Works on a lot of processed foods.

          Sugar for example was sold in 1lb., 5lb and 10lb bags. The grocery store in my area now sells 4lb bags instead of 5lb bags.

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      • armed citizen says:

        ghostrighter Shit, I’m gonna need more ammo!

        I hope a pickup load will hold out awhile after that I gotta go to plan B

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        • John W. says:

          You would be better off spreading it around to those you know and trust. That way they have to kill a whole bunch of people to negate that supply. At best you will survive for a couple of hundred rounds before they kill you. Then they get it all.

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      • Paranoid says:

        Actually 100 million are getting some kind of Gov check. But if it’s only 50 million I can lend you some ammo.

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    5. The zombie apocalypse is almost upon us.

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      • sharko says:

        Yep, define zombie- therein lies the crux.

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        • BadAmerican says:

          @sharko:

          zombie — any person, individual, agent, or otherwise, that wants to take mine and my own.

          Remedy — SHOOT, SHOVEL, SHUT UP.

          ….cool name by the way………BA.

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          • Average Guy says:

            No way, BadAmerican. A zombie isn’t just: any person, individual, agent, or otherwise, that wants to take mine and my own.

            That description fits a thug, criminal or a politician, too.

            A zombie wants to do the above, but has no clue about what’s happening in the world around them and refuses to consider facts, or openly discuss things in an adult manner.

            A thug, criminal or a politician might be perfectly aware of the world around them, so they’re often not zombies. You could say they are vampires though? …Or zombie vampires?

            Zombies often just repeat words, like, “Brains, I need brains.” Or maybe they say, “Engage, engage your employees” as if you have any employees? Ha.

            Zombies support the system without thinking what it means to support the system (unlike vampires) and want you to support the system too. To make it better, to make it faster, to make it stronger. As if that would make things better, when it wouldn’t, and never would. It all just makes you worse off.

            Today’s zombie, is a six million Dollar zombie.

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        • Sgt. Dale says:

          Sharko
          Zombie Is someone that is brain dead to the world.
          Is someone that thinks only of themselves.
          Is someone that takes from others.
          Is someone that doesn’t contribute to society.
          Is someone that will kill its young in the womb.
          This just some that I thought of at 3:20 AM. after taking the dog out.
          PLEASE ADD TO THE LIST.
          sgt

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    6. old guy says:

      It sounds almost to good to be true? I hate food stamps. I resent my hard earned money having to compete with the so called free food stamps at the grocery store. If this triggers a real SHTF collapse that OK by me. I tired of waiting its eventually gonna happen the sooner the better.

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      • maddog says:

        I’m with you old guy. Lets get the party started. Might as well throw in an EMP. Then we can really clean the gene pool.

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        • Rich says:

          @Maddog…
          “Starting the party” sounds cool and all, but could you please tell us how not having power to cool all of the Unites States nuclear reactors after said emp, is at all going to be a desirable “party”? Not being a smart ass, and I for one would love to have an excuse to stop paying my familys expensive phone plan:-), but those extremely hot and smoking reactors all over the Country is one thing alot of people seem to forget about while they sit mezmerized in their doom porn!

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          • veggimama says:

            rich-

            my sentiments exactly… live way too close to a nuke plant to be ok with the very real threat of emp…. anyhow, one plant meltdown will create chaos for 100′s of years… we’re still being affected by fallout from chernobal, and fukashima, and they are both 1/2 way around the world….not to mention how the cancer rates in the NE skyrocketed after 3mile meltdown, which was small potatoes compared to the other two….one thing we scratch our heads about in our preps… nuclear fallout….iodine, or cyanide?

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            • Rich says:

              Veggie….
              Indeed! I am way too close to the bruce mansfield plant in Beaver Pennsylvania, and it is old, and I’m quite sure that whatever action plan they have in the event of an emp there, it will not be up to par, or even close to dealing with it in a safe manner. In any such event may God help us:-)
              Keep on preppin folks!

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      • wrong says:

        old guy

        I agree 100%. My thumbs ups won’t work but you got mine. After watching and reading about the idiots this weekend I think it would be great to have them beat on each other for a couple weeks. Maybe weed some of em out. I’m sick of it too. I work my ass off every day so I don’t ever have to depend on the fuckwads in washington. They can all go to hell. Like you said (sorta) its eventually gonna happen the sooner the better.

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      • Ready & Waiting says:

        I have to agree! Lets get it rolling soon and bring to a halt the welfare state.

        Hope we get to the end of the month? We are pre-positioning the last of our large needed assets to the mountain retreat the weekend before while we finalize our escape route.

        Not that we want to leave our home of 25+ years but it is something we are wiling to do to get the country back on track.

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        • st.augustine says:

          R&W, please explain me how you fleeing to the mountains is going to “get the country back on track”.??

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          • Cujo says:

            My guess is to get away from threat one, the city. It’s a strategic retreat to live and fight another day. I reside in the suburbs, I intend to retreat, personally I am in my element in a Rural setting. It won’t matter where anyone goes, hell well follow you so get where you can defend best.

            Maybe that’s what he meant…

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            • Kindle says:

              I’ve always liked the top of houses.

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              • Mountain Trekker says:

                Boy ain’t it going to be great when we get to start doing all this shooting. I can hardly wait, I just hope it stops every night before the local news and weather and hope it doesn’t start to early in the morning, cause I like to stay up late and I don’t want to miss anything early in the morning, I hate having to get up early for 2 months of hunting season, so maybe we can make shooting hours between 10Am and 10PM. I have plenty of ammo but we just don’t know how many years this fun is going to go on, once the first shot is fired. Atleast all the wounding and killing will be done to them. SO LETS GET IT ON. Trekker Out.

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          • Average Guy says:

            st.augustine asked, “please explain me how you fleeing to the mountains is going to “get the country back on track”.??”

            Have you ever seen the film, or read the book, Atlas Shrugged?

            Your answer, is there.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        +1 Bud,
        Couldnt agree more!

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      • Iowa says:

        Hi Old Guy, Sir,

        Another day that passes without collapse is one more day I prepare my children to choose God. I understand your patience is waning, but I hope this isn’t in your prayers. No offense.

        God please give my family more days to prepare than I deserve, Amen.

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      • You know what I resent? my hard earned tax dollars going to wasteful wars, huge companies sending millions of OUR jobs over seas, all while recieveing tax cuts, and corporate welfare, yet you want to bash on people who for many, many years worked their asses off to pay taxes, and then lose their jobs to India, or China, or Mexico, starving to death. How about the 600 billion we used to bail out the very bankers that screwed us all. Not ALL people on food stamps want to be on them. You have a job, great but there are millions of us who HAVE been looking hard, and yet still don’t have one. You want to seperate the chaff from the wheat, good head to Washington! That’s where the REAL chaff is.

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        • sixpack says:

          AMEN, WakeUpCall. Most people didn’t choose dependency, I know I didn’t. Nothing like being kicked in the teeth while you’re down, huh.

          But that’s okay, I can still bite back with a few missing teeth.

          I may be down, but I’m not done.

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    7. It is the fact that we have 50 million people on EBT and other forms of social engineering that has brought us to the door step of destruction.

      Give a man a fish, he’ll eat for the day, teach a man to fish and he’ll eat for life.

      This whole thing has been a set up from the beginning, the government is forming these lazy low information souls into a mob for one purpose.
      They’re easily controlled by fear, food and the desire to be taken care of, they will be the progressive army that begins the end.

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      • TrotterOtter says:

        OR, give a man a fish every day, and he’ll vote for life!

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      • That would be all good and well if there weren’t over 50 million people out of work because they sent all the jobs over seas. Yes SOME people take advantage of the system and that is WRONG, but there are many people who have jobs that are on food stamps! Why because minimum wage is not a livable wage, food prices increase almost daily, and many people can’t find jobs because there are none. I know both kinds, some who have looked almost everyday for YEARS and can’t even get a job at McDonalds, and some that used to make good money and collect unemployment, food stams, and other assistance yet wouldn’t take a job at McDonalds to save their lives. So let’s get rid of food stamps right? Forget the billions we spend every month invading other countries, forget the hundreds of billions that went to rich bankers, it’s the FOOD stamps that are ruining everything. Go ahead teach me to fish in a lake with NO fish, I’d like to see that one. I for one would rather see MY tax dollars going to FEED children than to some multi billion dollar multi national who blew all our money on bad deals, or to multi million dollar drones being used to kill innocent people.

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        • ozarkmtgirl says:

          I thank you for your honest comment. My daughter and son in law have both been looking for work for over 2 years. He has had several part time and temporary jobs but now for more than 4 months, nothing. They both sell plasma for cash and with a 23 month old, EBT is the most important thing other than finding a job. DH and I have almost bankrupted ourselves trying to keep them afloat during this and finally had to stop with helping. Our own money may stop next month too, if POTUS has his way. DH is a 100% service connected disabled veteran and this was promised to him for life, but may not be there in Nov. because congress and POTUS are throwing temper tantrums.
          Another friend is in his 50′s and just had a brain tumor removed, can’t drive from the seizures he’s having since the surgery, can’t work because he’s having problems seeing and standing since the surgery, can’t get disability because of the partial shutdown closing that part of SSA, and all he has is $110 a month food stamps until this is all resolved, and he has worked his entire life until this happened. Now, he might not even have EBT next month?
          Not everyone who is on EBT is looking for handouts. Sometimes it’s just everything being all kinked up in your life and waiting until the knots unkink and you can go back to work. In these instances, it’s a hand up, not a handout.

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          • Average Guy says:

            ozarkmtgirl, your story is filled with people who have fallen for a promise from a ponzi scheme.

            You got ripped off.

            It seems that none of you have realized that yet.

            And yes, Everyone who is on EBT *is* looking for handouts.

            Where do you think that money comes from?

            It comes from your neighbors who have a gun pointed at their heads while hearing the words, “Pay up, or else!”

            It’s worse than a handout, it’s a pickpocket hold-up switcheroo.
            Please stop defending it. It’s theft, pure and simple.

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            • gskissit says:

              its not all hand outs some people has paid in as must as others but things happen in life to where you have to get some help sometimes.until you get to that point you will never know.

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            • veggimama says:

              average guy
              no it comes from the fed reserve printing press… fiat $ is worthless that’s why the rest of the world can’t wait for us to default and move onto a $ system backed by SOMETHING.(the resulting chaos of default on debt will affect the whole world, not just us)
              Its not theft when you’ve worked your whole life and paid into that very same system. shame on you for being so callous.
              communities that previously existed that would help out its members in times of need have been resigned to the amish in this country, and even they are slaves to our monetary system. if your choices are starve until you can get back to work, or get back some of the $ stolen from you in fed taxes, there is nothing dishonorable about that.

              the dishonor is in the system that allows for fiat $ in the first place, the system that allows generations to do nothing and get more than some of the hardest working underpaid over taxed lower middle class gets in net pay.
              it’s the scum who have never paid a dime in taxes who benefit from the system that is shameful. its the scum that think cutting snap is a priority over bringing troops home, or grounding drones, or halting construction on the massive “data farm” in utah filtering useless info we’re writing right here. the scum, who if they took a 50% pay cut while their govt shutdown continues would be able to keep this program online and prevent much chaos and misery. the scum is not ssi, or snap recipients but the politicians we dumbasses voted into office.

              if you use cash at all, or any form of u.s. currency you are just as much duped by the ponzi scheme as the rest of us, and the rest of the world.

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            These issues are complicated arent they.
            There are many cases that are legitimate, i know people who are getting assistance because they have no other option, then there are those who have made it a lifestyle.
            I try to not paint my opinion of other peoples situation with too wide a brush.
            For every one out of work carpenter who cant and hasnt found a job beyond a few day repair for the last two years who has an EBT card to feed the family, there are two who game the system for a way of life, i know both sides, one side i can sympathise with the other i want to grab the HHS lady and drag her to the peoples house and make her watch the movie the rest of us get to see.
            Big part of the problem is the loss of that self reliant spirit,
            Too many just want handouts rather than figuring out some sort of solution, they would rather just say hey its there, im going to take it,
            To all the long term unemployed i say god save us, to the users i say you reap what you sow

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          • laeagle says:

            @ozarkmtgirl, I feel for you and you have my admiration and respect. It is not dishonorable to accept a handout in time of need. Sooner or later, we will all need a helping hand.

            What I worry about most is the loss of ‘humanity’, of ‘compassion’, of ‘love’. It is easy to become an animal, and we all can revert to animal behavior in a relatively short time given the right circumstances.

            When I was in primary school, one of our teachers would get so upset with us that he would call us ‘animals’. He contended that we were going to school so that we could become human beings. What some are proposing is that we should revert to become animals, ruthless dinosaurs. That is going backwards.

            Back where I come from, the saying went, “there are always mountains taller than other mountains, tigers bigger than other tigers’. Reverting to animal behavior is not what will save the world going forward. Mankind will become extinct just like the dinosaurs with that kind of cold blooded values being promoted by some. To me, that is not prepping.

            If you are prepping just to stay alive, you will not last when SHTF! What is it worth a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?

            We need to be prepping to preserve the community, to preserve humanity, to preserve what is best in each other, what is best in humanity. We are strong if we unite but will fall prey to the predators if we are divided and isolated and fail to build strong, principled communities.

            Eventually, we will run out of food, water, medicines, weapons, tools, clothing, fuel, etc. We will need to turn to others to resupply. Let’s reach out and embrace each other whenever and wherever we can, building bridges, to expand our community of strong, self-reliant, forward thinking preppers.

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            • ozarkmtgirl says:

              @laeagle says:
              I couldn’t agree with you more. You are echoing exactly what I have been thinking and feeling for a very long time now. Thank you for putting it so succinctly and well stated! Kudos!

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        • Ancient Echoes says:

          I wish I could give you l00 thumbs up for this comment.

          Well said fellow human.

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        • nevermind/obe says:

          Slightly off topic, but…Wal-Mart Stores Inc will buy an additional $50 billion in U.S.-made goods over the next decade in areas like sporting goods and high-end appliances in what the world’s largest retailer called a bid to help boost the U.S. economy.

          Wal-Mart, the largest private employer in the United States, also said on Tuesday it plans to hire 100,000 newly discharged veterans over the next five years, at a time when the U.S. unemployment rate is at 7.8 percent.
          www dot huffingtonpost dot com

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          • Average Guy says:

            nevermind/obe says, “Wal-Mart, plans to hire 100,000 newly discharged veterans over the next five years, at a time when the U.S. unemployment rate is at 7.8 percent.”

            What the heck is so special about the vets – Who Had Jobs – over the 7.8% who Haven’t Had Jobs?

            If anything, the vets should be giving up their spot in the line for the rest of the poor suckers who have been ridden roughshod over by TPTB this whole time.
            Or better yet, level the playing field, just hire the best man for the job no matter who they worked for last.

            That used to be the American Way.

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            • durango kidd says:

              Average Guy/Clark: Go back to school, get an education, and you to will become employable. Your hatred of veteran’s turn the stomach of the many Vets here who are Patriots.

              You are a limp wristed faggot who doesn’t have the guts to be a Vet. You can change your screen name but you cannot change who you are!!! LMFAO!!! :-)

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          • lastmanstanding says:

            and you believe that?

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        • The Old Coach says:

          You make a good point there WakeUpCall. In my county on the Ohio River here, the Halfrican Dictator’s EPA is forcing two coal-fired generating stations to shut down. That would be bad enough, but as a direct consequence a large aluminum smelting plant is being forced to close, putting 1000 people out of work. This in a county with only 15000 total population to begin with. What with all the rest, we may have 40% unemployment here by Christmas. No other jobs to jump to. What are those families gonna do in the short run? Long run they’re gonna have to relocate, if they can afford it and can find work elsewhere. This is a totally different situation than you find in, say, Cleveland/Detroit/Chicago/Philthydelphia/Ballmer, where the looters have never worked, their mommas and poppas never worked, and their grandmommas and grandpoppas never worked either.

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        • wakeupcall

          What a fucking baby you are, I’ve traveled all over the world, I’ve worked since my first paper route at age 10, I’ve made friends in south America and many other places that work three jobs just to be middle class, I live in an area where I see help wanted signs every day and yet working for money is looked upon as bad if you can’t make more than that on unemployment.

          People need to find, create a work ethic or die on the vine, I’ve not stopped working since the age of ten, I’ve never collected from any social program, but I guess in your mind my success is all about the color of my skin?

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          • Ugly says:

            y99

            I was a paperboy at age 10 also. I have had numerous jobs as a young lad on thru college.

            From the last Social Security statement, it showed that I have paid in well over $300,000 into SSN since 1971.

            People don’t care about the worker anymore. They just want to whine (not saying ‘wakeup’ is whining–I am saying many others that I have met or even within my own family).

            According to SSN, if I retire at age 70 I will have $3,400 per month in SS. I’ll never see it. So yes, I am starting to whine too. I am also starting to have a deaf-ear towards others getting something for nothing.

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            • Ugly, sounds like you and I are close in age, I’m with you on the something for nothing issue. As for people like Wakeupcall I find there tone and victimhood maddening, so I have little sympathy for people who write with a winey tone.

              If my aggravation in this offends you or anyone I’m sorry, I’m just sick of people claiming poor me when the S has not even HTF yet.

              Sounds like you and I could be friends or at a minimum talk about delivering papers?

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              • Ugly says:

                y99.

                You said it correct when you said ‘victimhood’. People always want to blame others for their own situation. Let me give example.

                I graduated with a BS in Agriculture from the University of Idaho in 1985. I finished with a GPA 2.11. I worked thru college and also got student loans. I paid off my debt.

                Later, I decided to get a Master’s Degree in Agriculture. So I applied. But because of my poor GPA I had to get in with provisions and on probation. I also had to pay my way and get my own grants. I did.

                Then one semester I had a GPA of 2.60 so I was put on probation again. Then I followed it with another GPA of sub-3.00 so I was kicked out. I had to re-apply again.

                Anyway, it took me 8 years to get my 2 year Masters Degree.

                But I did pay for it while working and having kids in school.

                Did I whine? No! I understood the system and was thankful for it. I never thought someone should pay my education, especially when my GPA was as poor as it was.

                When I tell folks this today, they could careless. They think I had everything handed to me. They have excuses about college or starting a business or whatever. They just have the ‘woe-is-me’. They don’t want to hear how you did it, they just want what you have without that effort.

                I have always given my drive and work attitude to that very first job as a young 10 year old delivering the morning newspaper in the Treasure Valley called, The Idaho Statesman.

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                • Ugly

                  Warm regards, my wife is from Boise, and if I could we’d move there in an Idaho minute. Which gives us time because it isn’t New York, thank God.

                  Just attended my wife’s 30yr reunion for Boise High in July, I love it there.

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                • braveheart says:

                  Y99 and Ugly, I also started delivering papers at age 10. After a year of that, I started doing various odd jobs for people in my neighborhood. I had a good work ethic by the time I was 16 and started paying my first taxes to Uncle Sugar. I learned the value of a dollar and how to work early in life. Been working ever since. never took a dime from any social program or any handouts from anyone. The only time I ever tried to use credit for anything was to buy a BOL I found in the Ozarks in 1997, but was turned down for a mortgage because of no previous experience with credit. I’ve always used cash for EVERYTHING I get for myself, even vehicles. I’m literally debt-free, so I can buy more preps at one time than I would’ve been able to otherwise. I’m just like both of you; sick to death of hearing the whining from people who have no work ethic, no sense of responsibilities, no sense of morality, no integrity, no self-respect, no esteem; in short, THEY DON’T HAVE JACK SHIT. I’m getting deaf and just about ready to knock out the next whiner that approaches me. I’m ready for SHTF. Time to push the reset button and take this country back. braveheart

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                • Ugly says:

                  y99.

                  Shit. It is a small world. If your wifes 30th, then that means she graduated from either–Boise High, Capital, Borah, or Bishop Kelly.

                  I went to school 40 miles north of there at an A2 school. We ran cross country against those Boise dudes each year, mainly the Ann Morrison Invitational. Thus, your wife was a freshman when I was a senior (class of 1979 dude !!!!).

                  My wife and I are thinking about moving back that way from Pocatello. I like the Warm Springs and Hidden Springs area.

                  But I am a Vandal! not a Bronco.

                  I have ran Robie Creek 7 times. It is a great race. We will do it again in 2014.

                  Anyway, it is a small world. I have my Oly can pointing your way of NY. Cheers!

                  PS. I just saw your post saying Boise High. Cheers!

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                • Ugly says:

                  bravehart.

                  That is great.

                  I attribute the beginning of my work ethic and money management as a paperboy.

                  You learned a lot. Especially when collecting the monthly bills and some of the folks excuses.

                  I learned a lot .

                  Keep prepping.

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            • lastmanstanding says:

              I’m with you guys…paperboy at 10, class of 79.

              and not “going down without one helluva fight”

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              • Night breaker says:

                Guess I am the old guy here! paper boy at 10 “The Evening Bulletin” Class of 1977 ,
                Joined The USMC that summer, same occupation of my dad who died in 1970, stayed in till 1993 Been working since 10 years old .

                I think us who are over 50 were brought up differently than the current generation of today.

                I guess all of those Hard time stories of the Great Depression my Dad used to tell me about stayed with me.
                He didn’t get his first good meal till joining the Corp. Back then.

                Semper Fi 8541

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                • lastmanstanding says:

                  My dad was a Marine…Korea 50-51…Tank commander.

                  Never wanted us to join the service…especially after a cousin was killed in action in Vietnam.

                  He always encourage us to get out, kick ass and be a productive human being.

                  He is still a Marine at 84…Semper Fi NB.

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        • Average Guy says:

          WakeUpCall says, “minimum wage is not a livable wage”

          It’s not supposed to be, bub.

          A person is supposed to work their way up from there.

          Your friends are having troubles getting minimum wage? Consider this: regulations are the problem, not the companies that provide the jobs.

          Also, check out this thought:

          Minimum Wage Madness

          http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/09/thomas-sowell/minimum-wage-madness/

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          • durango kidd says:

            Clark: Still pushing the economist Lew Rockwall who pimps for the New World Order?

            Strip that false Libertarianism from him and he pushes the economics policies of the NWO who has enslaved YOU!

            free Trade is not Free and he doesn’t promote individual trade, he promotes managed Trade! :-)

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      • Patriot Man says:

        “Give a man an EBT card at walmart, he;ll buy some food. Give him an EBT card with no limit, He’ll buy 40 inch flat panels.”

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    8. RICH99 says:

      You can GUARANTEE they will raise the debt ceiling !!!! They aren’t suicidal

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      • old guy says:

        RICH I hope your wrong. The 17th is my Birthday If they cant make a deal it will be the best Birthday present ever!

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        • RICH99 says:

          Old guy , I know you don’t want the chaos that will ensue from such a situation ….it will be l.a. riots on SUPER ROIDS !!!!

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          • old guy says:

            Yep I want the chaos that will separate the wheat from the chaff. Its gonna be quite the adventure. I smell the blood of a revolution. The riots wont last a week. Im not worried about lazy sheeple parasites burning down their own neighborhoods

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            • slingshot says:

              Old Guy.

              I am tired of the threats that they will steal my goods or burn my house down if they don’t get what they want.
              I will be waiting for them.

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              • slingshot says:

                Hey Old Guy.

                This is not about the money when you boil it down. It is about the Fear Factor. I mean the fear of the masses going to riot and burn, steal and general mayhem. Let me reverse this. There are few hundred thousand that are pissed off at government and they better think twice.

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            • The Old Coach says:

              Wish I could post images here. I just got one that says:

              “The worst thing about a zombie apocalypse will be trying to pretend I’m not excited.”

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      • RICH99

        I agree, yet each time we go through this contrived crisis the mob grips tighter on to the tit of government control, the real problem is never addressed and we’re that much closer to an event fake money won’t fix.

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      • were living in Kickcanistan,, so what else would we expect

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        • Norse Prepper says:

          Kickcanistan….Thanks VRF!!! Blew coffee out my nose laughing!.

          Rich99…I agree 100%. They will do it again and again. As soon as they increase the debt limit the MSM will be out howling about how everything is saved, the stock market will bounce up like a crack addict getting another fix.

          This will continue until the rest of the world decides that they don’t want to have the world currency based on a bunch of politicians in dysfunctional Washington controlling the rest of the world.

          On a side note, did anyone know that in the wild, a large amount of baboons is actually called a congress?

          Guess that answers a lot of questions.

          God Bless,
          NP

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          • Mr. Jonz says:

            I wish we had a Congress of baboons rather than the bunch of vermin, snakes and pond scum we have now. No offense to real baboons, vermin, snakes and pond scum, who like the rest of us, are just trying to survive.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          Thats a good one!

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        • lonelonmum says:

          As a refugee still in midflight from Londistan, may I offer a salute to those citizens of Kickcanistan?

          That was superb VRF!

          We should make like those in the actual ‘stans, and check our seed stocks NOW for the spring planting. Mail order convenience may not be around much longer.

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        • IL woman says:

          We need go design a flag for Kickcanistan!!

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      • Hammerun says:

        Watch this.

        Hey Rich99, They who?

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        This doesnt have to do with the debt ceiling, it has to do with the lack of a budget or CR for funding government operations,

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        • Be informed says:

          @ Kulafarmer. Exactly. With a budget and clean resolution it means that everyone sees that the country cannot continue spending like it is without the interest on the loans finally surpassing what the government can pay. Finally the government is taking out more loans to just pay the interest on the original loans. It is like taking out a 3rd and 4th and 5th morgtage to pay off the interest on a muliple wallet full of credit cards. The US government is credit card junkies.

          Eventually the money has to come from somewhere. That means higher taxes or runaway inflation from government printing presses going at warp speed. Either one would have to happen or automatic default, no choice, just like Greece. A budget is something that a credit card junkie cannot and will not do unless forced to. The US government will eventually be forced to one way or the other. A clean resoultion means that something constructive is being done to fix the problem, something BO and congress actually never wants. Since when has wasington ever been clean? The USS Titantic or Lusitania with a nice big hole and another torpedo or iceburg coming in……………….

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      • kynase says:

        I don’t know…isn’t it a really strange coincidence that the EBT system went down the other day…and now this notice…hmmmm. Coincidence? I think not.

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    9. old guy says:

      Yep cut of the food stamps. Let them go hungry for a short time. Them bring the FEMA buses and tell them they can get food and be taken care of. They will fight to board the busses. Hi Ho off to the FEMA slave and Death camp they will willingly go!

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    10. loulou says:

      Its going to be a very hard, sad lesson for these people to learn, nothing is free, start depending on yourself and quit depending on others to carry you and your family through life..Sometimes you gotta hit rock bottom to get it together, I was always taught at an early age….If you don’t count on anyone for anything, you will never be let down.

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    11. J-Bird says:

      to old guy – I agree with you. I don’t like food stamps either; however I know there are people out there who really do need help. Most of them though are on assistance from one generation to the next. I believe it should be a requirement if you are healthy and able to work, then one should have to work at some state, city, county job in order to obtain your food stamps or any other assistance. I don’t care if you are out there cleaning up the litter from the roads and highways. One should not be able to sit at home eating chips and watching the jerry springer show and collecting welfare.

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      • Canadian Vet says:

        I agree. Getting food stamps should be contingent on looking for steady employment or doing, as you said, public service crap jobs. But even if physically disabled, they can do other stuff like filing paperwork or driving a desk processing dog licenses.

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        • Mr. Jonz says:

          But then the public union government employee making $80K/yr plus outrageous benefits preparing dog licenses won’t have any work.

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        • Average Guy says:

          Canadian Vet says, “Getting food stamps should be contingent on looking for steady employment or doing, as you said, public service crap jobs. But even if physically disabled, they can do other stuff like filing paperwork or driving a desk processing dog licenses.”

          Um, you do realize this money they are “getting” is stolen from individuals, don’t you?

          If it was money that was freely given, I could see your point, but the way it is now, no. Just turn off the tap. It’s the Only righteous position.

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          • Canadian Vet says:

            I disagree. I won’t deny there are leeches who will just suck for the government tit and enjo being paid to do sweet F-A but there are also those who genuinely need that assistance from being down on their luck. Turning the tap off would not only hurt those who happily spend their days cramming chips down their throat, washing them down with beer and a smoke while watching Jerry Springer all day long but also the otherwise hard-working family man who got canned so his job can go to a bunch of illegal part-timers thanks to Obamacare.

            I don’t like taxes any more than you do but like it or not, that money was taken from you and the government ought to spend it a lot more responsibly. And something I should have added is that food stamp recipients should be subject to hair, blood and /or urine tests. Any signs of drugs, alcohol or even tobacco in their system, they get cut off.

            So basically I am all for trimming from the government tit those who abuse the system, saving its resources for those deserving the help while getting back on their feet.

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      • Iowa says:

        Federal Government Food Assistance is Unconstitutional…People or the State.

        Lets get back to the basics of the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

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      • Congressmen shouldn’t be sitting on their asses making $137,000 a year in our tax dollars.
        If ignorance is bliss you all must be the happiest people in the owrld.

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    12. Tactical says:

      5 years ago, we were told ” Unites States will have a domestic army of 20 million strong”, I guess the number has increased to 50 million. Now imagine 50 million hungry stomachs with guns. C’mon folks, give the SOB’s credit. they are really implementing the master plan. Just in case you don’t remember what it was…….”In 4 years we’ll fundamentally change the United States”.

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      • Tactical

        Yes, I believe that’s what they’re up to also, it’s a trap though, the government powers know that the only way in the end to control the flow of the 50 million man/woman/children mob will be to convince the military to enacted martial law, this will be an unfocused event that will roll up many other people by design, a false flag/crisis event is being manipulated.

        They’ve been pushing event after event upon us for years now, they must believe that they can control the flow of the mob to some degree, but even with that said it becomes obvious that they are willing to except 100 million + dead before it even starts.

        People need to wake-up and see who the true enemy is!

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        • Tactical says:

          @Y99 – I agree and you do have a valid points. From their satanic minds, anything and everything is possible. For the awaken Americans we need to avoid the fear and keep the cool heads while keeping our eyes wide open without reacting to all of their false flags.

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          • Tactical

            I fully agree that cool heads and steady hands must prevail in what we are faced with. I like you see the unfortunate future we may face, I would prefer to live my life in peace, but it appears to me that many people within our own country (I won’t call them Americans) have been working to destroy it for many years, many are just brainwashed animals who prefer chaos out of laziness over the hard and difficult work of becoming wholly human.

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            • Tactical says:

              Indeed correct y99. Real Americans with pride and integrity and hard work attitude just want to be left alone and to live in peace. None of us want to harm anyone. All of us want to provide for to our families, taking care of our elder parents and in general just to be a REAL HUMAN. However, we have been betrayed by corruption and corrupt TPTB. The harm that the bankers and wall street thieves caused this country is far greater than any foreign enemies. Sadly I must state the enemy is within. I am tired of being fearful of my Government, my police force, being spied on for no reasons, waiting as when my job will be shipped to overseas for a less skilled but cheaper engineers. We’ve been lied to for many years and now these bastards are trying to destroy us slowly.

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              • I’ve come to dislike certain sayings due to over use, but…”Knowing is half the battle” and so we are ahead of the game so to speak.

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              • Thank you! That’s my point. Blame the people that messed this country up, not those who are just trying to get by in it.

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                • Wakeupcall

                  Sorry, the people you claim are just trying to get by are the same people who latch on to the generational tit of government.

                  I hold these people in contempt, success is always within reach if one reaches for it rather than a handout, you Wakeup are a very feeling person who forgives laziness and calls it something else, you would rather believe the individual person is a victim rather than believe them lazy.

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    13. wildman says:

      This is sure the Hope and Change they wanted so have at it. I for one am staying right here, ready for battle. so when the shtf the so called low info voters sure get just what they wanted. im staying right here. Battle mags ready, Locked an loaded. if i can evict 50 beavers with none returned i can damn sure take care of the problems. POP EM AN DROP EM attitude has been awhile comin an now its here! it aint goin anywheres. wildman out

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      • braveheart says:

        It’s high time for the entire country take a heaping dose of Pepto Bismol and have a damned good shit; CLEAN OUT ITS SYSTEM 1,000,000%. I’ll be locked and loaded with all of my “ventilation team”. braveheart

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        • The Old Coach says:

          LOL! And maybe a planetary-sized enema. I know where to insert it.

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        • Sgt. Dale says:

          Braveheart:
          You are right it needs a good cleaning out. This country is so screwed up. With us having to take care of the LEACHES with their EBT cards. I can’t afford to help my kids the way I want to, but I still help them the any way I can.
          The leaches will be running up and down the streets burning shit down, and doing nothing for themselves. While I just got back from running up and down hill hunting PIGs. I got one to put in the freezer. I’ll have something to eat, and so will my kids. The LEACHES will have nothing because the spend there time look for a hand out for food instead of going out and hunting or working for it. This just pisses me off.
          AIM SMALL MISS SMALL!!!
          Sgt.

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          • Kindle says:

            Steady

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          • braveheart says:

            Good evening, Sarge. You’re right, it’s all any of us can do to keep ourselves going. My late wife would be turning over in her grave if she could see what this country has become. In some ways it’s good that I didn’t have kids. although I would’ve done my best raising them the right way, it would’ve killed me to see them go the wrong way. at least I was spared that kind of heartache. I’m only responsible for myself. I’m not some 2-legged entitlement program for any MF to bleed to death. I’m making several more trips for supplies between now and Nov. 1. I think SHTF is just around the corner. The leaches are supposedly burning up Twitter with messages saying they’ll riot the next time the EBTs stop working. I was out shopping Sat. night when that was happening. fortunately TN was NOT one of the states affected. braveheart

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          • slingshot says:

            SGT. Dale.

            Congats on getting a hog. Black Powder starts this weekend.

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            • Sgt. Dale says:

              Slingshot:
              I love shooting my black powder. In Ill. it starts Nov 22nd. along with shotgun. I hope I get a couple deer this season.
              I just learned of a guy and his family that hangs out with my son in a hard way. I also just found out that my son’s hours have been cut, so he will get the other half. I’m going to keep one of the back straps. I’m out of deer. My son is getting some porky. Like I said before the Lord wants us to help those in hard times. What piss me off is making me do it.
              I’m going to take some deer over to them as soon as I get one. it’s bow season here and I haven’t got a shot yet. I did kill a coyote. No one is eating these damn thing yet!!!
              Good luck get a good one.
              AIM SMALL MISS SMALL.
              Sgt.

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        • Urban dog says:

          Clean out the system? When I mention social security and government pensions you get pissed off brave. Socialism.

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    14. Carol says:

      Some of these comments horrify me, Yes the system needs reform no doubt about it, but for anyone to be so ignorant as to think everyone getting assistance is lazy or useless, it is this same kind of ignorance that is governing the country. Starving people is no joke PERIOD. The majority of households in this country are one job loss or tragedy away from the food lines themselves, be careful you never know when it will be you.

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      • old guy says:

        Everyone using the system is a taking parasite. shure there are varying degrees of parasites some are worse than others. The fact the government no longer has enough making producers to Robb(TAX) and redistribute to the parasites. It is simply not sustainable. The longer we procrastinate and adhere to the Kickcanistan politics the more horriffic the final result will become. One Job loss away? I haven’t worke for another man in two years. Im doing Ok and am not worried one bit about who will feed me & mine.

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        • BlueH20 says:

          When you work for yourself, as I do, every customer, every client, everyone who pays for your service, your labor or your hand made product is the person you are working for. In a viable economy, distributing your sources of income works well and one person unable to afford whatever you sell doesn’t make a huge difference. But, if the entire house of cards falls, then the self-employed fall, too.

          My businesses have been on or off the past few weeks, after a busy Spring and Summer. It is as though there is a switch that gets flipped each week between decent revenues and none. In speaking with others, professionals, retailers, on-line sellers, manufacturers, it is the same and this is in an area with low unemployment. It is harvest time in the Midwest and money should be flowing. Instead, people are stocking up and delaying spending or they are alternating between the various businesses they normally patronize. One business has a national reach and that is more reliable, but still slow, considering the time of year. The retail end of that enterprise has been dead in the water for a month.

          I haven’t worked for a single employer in over 50 years. Still, some weeks it is a wonder we survive. Those are the ones where everything that comes in must go into the capital fund for quarterly income taxes and bi-annual property taxes and insurance.

          This country is 9 meals away from anarchy and the cynical administration will just blame their opposition and then magnanimously allow the benefits to flow, the QE to prop up the stock market and the waivers to be issued to the cronies.

          Soon all that is left is cronies and clients and the only source of all income is the tyrant.

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          • Average Guy says:

            BlueH20 wrote, “This country is 9 meals away from anarchy”

            Oh, that’d be GREAT!

            But I think you meant chaos, not anarchy.

            Chaos wouldn’t be any fun at all.

            Look up the phrase, ‘What is Anarchy’ and I think you’d be pleasantly surprised by it’s meaning.

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      • Archivist says:

        Charity is not the job of the federal government. I have never taken any charity from the government, even when I was down to eating chicken bologna sandwiches three times a day. And I will never take charity from the government.

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        • DRD5508 says:

          Archivist, good for you. The churches gave charity up years ago, just like in Germany a few decades back.

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          • Archivist says:

            My church hasn’t given up on charity. We send a crew with food once a month to provide meals for the homeless. Each church in our area has a designated day or days each month. We also have a benevolence fund which helps out when someone can’t pay their electric bill or other expense. We are big in disaster relief, such as New Jersey and in Mississippi for Katrina. We not only have rebuilding and repair crews, but we have feeding teams capable of feeding thousands a day. We have a mission crew in West Virginia this week helping the poor and spreading the gospel. We have paid for digging wells in India. We have teachers/missionaries from our own church in several foreign countries right now.

            We can’t help everyone, but we’re doing what we can. And I know the other churches in our area are too.

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          • Highspeedloafer says:

            DRD, You are soooo wrong. My church in association with 107 other churches in our county have a very busy food and clothing ministry. We recently spent over $150,000.00 building a new food center. The need has become so huge though, we can barely keep up. Oct. is national Hunger awareness month, and our people give generously to meet needs not only in our county but also around the world. You need to find a better church.

            Matt. 25:36

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            • Average Guy says:

              If you guys spent half that much time and energy trying to eliminate the minimum wage law you’d do twice the good.

              Look up how minim wage laws outlaw jobs, and see.

              You all need to better your church.

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        • TrotterOtter says:

          And it’s not charity when it’s forcefully taken and redistributed. There is no virtue in robin hood thievery. There IS virtue in volunteering your time and donating what you have at a personal level. It’s easy to lose compassion when you witness firsthand the mindset of welfare beasts. I’ve got neighbors that use EBT and magically afford good smokes (legal and not), good liquor, and have a new Cadillac Escalade in the driveway. I’ve never had food stamps and drive a 12 year old chevy- CHOICES, man choices.

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      • Tactical says:

        Carol, I don’t believe majority of these folks are facing such a degrading human condition by choice. Some are and such are simply parasites and should starve to death. You need to ask yourself who are the main culprits creating 50 million people to live like sub-humans. Who are the culprits causing the job losses? Again, you don’t get any sympathy from me for those who purposely steal from the hard working Americans since they need to either die or change their direction in life.

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      • 95% of SNAP moochers give the rest a bad name. I’m sure the sow in LA who tried to take $700 in food had no idea her FSC (Free Shit Card) had a balance of $.49

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        • slingshot says:

          Bob.

          Since they will continue to abuse the system, a shutdown would be nice to a least get a few off the list.

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        • Sorry but I highly doubt it’s 95% There are millions of people on SNAP that DO have jobs, unfortunately minimum wage doesn’t pay the bills, but we figure some job is better than no job. Why is it that so many people who work for Walmart, and other companies need food stamps? Walmart is a multi billion dollar company but can’t “afford” to pay it’s employees more than minimum wage? No it’s GREED in ALL forms that is the problem. Yes, some people use the system, but many corrupt it. How many super rich bankers got BILLIONS of our tax money, and then gave themselves bonuses? But no is talking about that, just single mothers who work two jobs and still can’t feed their families. Right? That’s what broke the system? Not the billions wasted in the government that are free loaders, yeah because what’s billions of dollars compared with $327 a month worth of food?

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          • Sgt. Dale says:

            Wakeup.
            If you are right and they have these cards, they don’t need them. Take them away form them and let them learn how to set priorities!!!!

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          • Kindle says:

            Actually minimum wage can pay the bills. I live on less than $925 a month. I have cable, internet and phone. If I chose to drop those than the total amount needed goes down.

            Granted, my truck is 13 yrs old, my clothes are not new, I don’t go out to eat and haven’t been on vacation in 4 years, but….it can be done.

            Just have to set your priorities.

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      • Oldfart says:

        My wife has been working at her job for 22 years. Lately she’s seeing other long-term employees terminated for some sort of trumped-up problem. Of course, once they’ve been fired, their retirement plan is “amended” and it costs the company less. She’s been walking on eggs lately. In the meantime she’s pastoring a small Church and providing care for some people with disabilities — like me. I haven’t been able to work since ’97 due to health concerns.
        We have parts of four families living with us in a five-bedroom, one-bath house. I don’t know what else we can do to prepare besides laying in a ton or so of supplies. We even have a stack of firewood — no woodstove yet but who knows what may happen?

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      • slingshot says:

        Take a Gut Check, Carol.

        If nothing is done we all will be in the bread lines. As far as Karma and that I might be in the same position as the needy, well I have thrown my chips in the air and let them fall where they may.

        Crap or get off the pot.

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      • JayJay says:

        Great carol…glad you understand that.
        Because with 45% of workers supplying food for 45% of the non-workers it won’t be long till all those not preparing by stocking food will be in those food lines.
        A collapse will make sure of that.
        Prepare and prepare first. And pray while you prepare–The Creator understands.

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        • Do you really believe that all your tax dollars go to feeding the needy? The military spends more tax dollars than ALL other programs combined! Over $1billion a month goes to funding wars over seas! get real.

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          • Paranoid says:

            Wow? You sure don’t know anything about the numbers a billion a month! You are an idiot. Sorry about that. It’s closer to a billion a day. And you are still wrong.

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          • Not so much says:

            Uhh, not so much.

            The milt is approx. 20% of the federal outlay. all the gimme shit is more than 50%.

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          • Sgt. Dale says:

            Wakeup
            The military is there to protect us and has done a damn good job of it. The LEACHES with their EBT cars do nothing for us other that take our hard earned money. I know that there are some out there that need and should get the cards, but do you think for one minute that about 70% don’t, and or the 6Th generation LEACHING off the middle class.
            Keep the SHUT DOWN going, and let nature take its course!
            Sgt.

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            • Average Guy says:

              Sgt. Dale says, “The military is there to protect us and has done a damn good job of it.”

              Uh, no. They’ve done no such thing. They are off fighting for the spoils of empire and nothing else.
              Or have you never heard of Gen. Smedly Butler?

              The military is just a bunch of leaches no different than the welfare crowd. Get that through your thick skull, will ya?

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              • slingshot says:

                Average Guy.
                You Said.

                The military is just a bunch of leaches no different than the welfare crowd. Get that through your thick
                skull, will ya?

                Funny that this type of comment is never heard in public. OUTLOUD!!

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                • durango kidd says:

                  Slingshot: Clark is masquerading as Average Guy, thinking that a new screen name can hide to tired socialist bullshit he has been preaching here for years.

                  LMAO! :-)

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              • Sgt. Dale says:

                Guy
                You have never gone through BOOT CAMP did you? Its a lot of hard work. You take orders you don’t just take from the tax payer. You get up very early in the morning to do military things. You don’t sleep in because you were out all night partying spending our tax dollars on drug and alcohol.
                You learn how to take a life or to give up yours for your fellow American. You don’t just do drive bys to shot some one wearing the wrong colors.

                GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THICK IGNORANT SKULL!!! YOU HAVE NO F##$%NG CLUE AS TO WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

                You have the right to be this ignorant! You also have the right to blog on this sight, So if you get your ass chewed because you have no clue what you are talking about. You might start listening to what we are saying. You might learn something and you won’t be so ignorant!
                LOL
                Sgt.

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      • IL woman says:

        Carol the people at this sight a preppers. We prepare in advance for contingencies such as job loss, medical catastrophe, natural disasters, economic collapse etc. We have all come to the conclusion that not everyone is lazy or useless, but are in agreement that over 50% are. That is a majority.

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      • PA Dee says:

        Why is that my problem? I give personally to help the truly needed. Most of the takers I know are scamming the system one way or another. I know someone on social security disability that’s getting a retirement pension also. He couldn’t make the payments on his second house so he needed us to pay for it. I am not going to lose sleep over these lazy takers. If you don’t work you don’t eat. It won’t take long for the herd to be thinned out. With your attitude, it won’t take long for them to wipe you out.

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      • The Old Coach says:

        The country got along quite well from the first days until Franklin Destroyer Roosevelt without a massive welfare system. People took care of each other, in towns and parishes. We didn’t need a gigantic bureaucracy that consumes for itself 70% of the money it gets, and dribbles the crumbs to it’s “clients”. It’s not just the fourth-generation welfare moms that are the constituency, it’s the millions of “workers” and “managers”, and “facilitators” who are on the government teat.

        Can we change that overnight? Not without a lot of pain. I for one am prepped such that if I lost 100% of my SS pension I would still be alive five years hence, assuming God doesn’t need me any sooner.

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        • GOP4EVER says:

          Old Coach,
          excellent point! I made the same point a couple of articles ago about FDR being the socialist “progressive” progenitor of all welfare, and I got thumbed down…..

          You are spot on – thank you!!

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      • Average Guy says:

        Carol, have you ever heard of the notion of private charity?

        ….As opposed to the theft you defend.

        And uh, correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there’s a single starving person in America right now unless they’ve decided to be that way on purpose,… or they’re in GitMo waiting to be released when the judge said they could be released, yet the gooberment still chains them down. What about those guys? Nobody cares, even though they’re innocent. Back of page 10 for them, eh? It’s the American Way.

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    15. Micky Bee says:

      The house of cards is collapsing! And quickly at that!

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    16. Safeman says:

      They will probably raise the debt ceiling – but if they don’t, guys, at least we’re prepared.

      Stay safe, lock ‘n’ load, and God bless you, your families, and the United States of America.

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      • The Old Coach says:

        If they don’t the Dictator will simply ignore it, knowing that all we can do is impeach him for an egregious violation of the Constitution, and that the Senate would never convict him. When he gets away Scot-free with that, then there’ll be some excuse to cancel the elections in 2014, and our only course will be either civil war or at least massive general strikes and “demonstrations” like what we just saw in Egypt. This is why, I think, he is culling the military officer corps, because only the military would have the power to set things right. In that scenario, the sooner the fit hits the Shan, the better for all of us. The current military would restore the Constitution. By 2016, maybe not.

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    17. F16hoser says:

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    18. Diaz says:

      This is J.P. Morgan speaking.
      Period.

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    19. Chilton says:

      Clean all your weapon systems. Zero everything that you have been putting off. Get another order in for long term food. Time to finalize your preps in case this thing goes hot.

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    20. Is this only in Utah? Reporting it from Utah is interesting because so many Mormons live there, and the govt knows that most Mormons store 1 or 2 years worth of food. It’s part of the Mormon belief system to be prepared.

      This raises many possibilities and questions. (There are tons of little red flags waving around in my mind right now!) I wonder if this is a trial run to see what happens when religious prepared people are surrounded by starving people.

      Will they be charitable, or not? Either way, this raises even more possibilities: If they ARE charitable, it could be meant to
      (1) change the mindset of the hungry away from relying on government and toward getting their food from prepared people, legally or illegally, and
      (2) be meant to deplete the preparedness of the most prepared population group in the country.

      If they’re NOT charitable, it could be meant to
      (1) turn people against preppers, and provide an opportunity for the MSM to blame preppers for people going hungry, and
      (2) be the catalyst for confiscation of preps “for the good of the community.” Since there are more deadbeats than preppers, it will be easy for them to convince the majority that this is the “right thing to do.”

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      • DRD5508 says:

        LT, the trial isn’t to see if us (religous people, though it takes more faith to believe in this gov’t and evolution than Jesus), it is to see how those affected by the gov’t shut down react. Will the all compassionate gov’t have to step in and enact Marshall Law? Or how much law and disorder can come from this.

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        • I agree. My post wasn’t very clear. It was meant to be about what the reaction will be (theft? blaming everything on preppers? depletion of prepper’s resources?) and what the govt can do (propaganda against preppers? confiscation?) based on the question of what our fellow religious people will do. If they do one thing, what will the consequences and opportunities for mayhem be for criminals and govt, and if they do the opposite, what will the consequences and opportunities be (spelled out in my post above). Does that make more sense?

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      • Kindle says:

        In the address line; TO: it was “all states”. In the CC is was all regional managers.

        So if another letter pops up from another state then we might know if this is real or not.

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      • Here’s the USDA contingency plan:

        http://www.usda.gov/documents/usda-fns-shutdown-plan.pdf

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      • Tony says:

        Interesting !!!

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    21. wrong says:

      Off topic. Matthew Bracken’s excellent book Enemies Foreign and Domestic is free to download on a Kindle reader (computer) today from Amazon or his website. It’s a great book.

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    22. Adam Selene says:

      “It’s going to cause problems… because then you’re going to come to find out that you’re going to have people starting to steal and do what they have to do to survive.”
      Do anything that is except, get off drugs, learn some skills, get a job, put supplies aside for emergencies etc. Sure, I know there are people out there who cannot do those things, little kids, the handicapped and so on, but there are not 50 million of them. We have created a dependent society with a parasite mentality and soon we are going to pay the price.

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      • Agreed, but who are the real parasites? Yes lazy people suck, but some of us have worked paid taxes and are working or looking for work. It is a shame that a small percentage of people give the rest a bad name. I am surprised that so many preppers don’t realize where 99.99% of their tax dollars are going. The government spent 5 million on weapons and ammunition the day before the shut down, we spend billions every month for the very military industrial complex that will be hunting preppers down. I am a prepper but I also have many health issues that don’t allow me a lot to do work wise. I am not on disability but I am a single dad who relys on SNAP, from the tax dollars I paid in for the 20 years I did work, usually more than one job. I am stuck in a rural community because I don’t have the money to move to a place that might have more jobs. I have worked for the same country club 3 times, and all three times it shut down because of the economy and many people lost thier jobs. I agree that people using the system suck, but not ALL of us are that way. And really the REAL parasites are the one syphoning Billions of dollars, just to make themselves richer. I was and still am a prepper but I’m running low, and where I live you can’t just grow your own food and such, there are many laws that block this sort of activity withou VERY expensive permits. I would need a $300 permit just to build a shed. Point is it’s the GOVERNMENT itself that is the REAL parasite!

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    23. Southern Gal says:

      All:

      I am in Northern VA this week visiting my husband who has refused to leave this house until he sells it. After seeing that the EBT cards will be empty come November 1 and there still is no “deal” in Congress…would I be wrong in insisting that we pack everything possible in the truck and trailer and get the @*&%# out of here before this thing totally goes to hell?

      Everything inside of me is screaming “RUN”. Am I just being panicky? I don’t think so…

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      • Gonetoolong says:

        Yes, just being panicky. These stooges are fucking off again. They will make a debt deal and Obama will get everything he asks for as usual. Food for thought (no pun intended), the Obamacare website debacle is/was preplanned. They are intentionally sabotaging their own website so confusion about it abounds (until it is in place with funding). They do not want the masses to know what the specifics are such as ultra high deductables, increased monthly premiums, total out-of-pocket costs. They dribble a little info out there just to make it look like they are trying. Why else would their own guy Gibbs come out and decry how bad the rollout is? They are blaming the IT people now, just poor workmanship by an American company. “Those stupid computer guys”. If people saw the real facts about the costs, Obama would lose much support and momentum in the public’s eyes. Now he has won again and will get full funding of his baby. Then we can sit and spin. Gravy on top, blame the Republicans (most of whom are actual assholes) for any malady that may take place in the meantime. Working like a charm.

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        • BlueH20 says:

          That website was produced by a Canadian company with a resume that includes the Canadian National Health.

          Otherwise, we agree.

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          • The Old Coach says:

            Source on that please? I’ve read that five years ago they were a small software company with no resume.

            And BTW, they got the job from the Dictator on a sole-source contract. As someone who once had to work as a Contract Administrator for a private firm that did some DoD work, I know how hard it is under the F.A.R to sole-source anything that big.

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        • Perhaps, but what Obama really want’s is martial law! start some riots and call out the troops so it may be possible. it’s hard to say but I would be ready just in case. This would be much cheaper than any other false flag, in fact it would save them Millions that they can use to build more DUMBS etc. FEMA region 3, which includes Washington DC has been preparing for something, this might just be it.

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      • RICH99 says:

        Southern gal , the EBT cards will be working in November and December and beyond ….don’t be fooled by this , its just fear propagated to make the american people demand the debt ceiling be raised !!! Its politics as usual

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      • Babycatcher55 says:

        No, having lived in VA for thirty years, I totally get what you are saying. I think you are spot on. I’ve already warned my daughter who lives in Tidewater, that if this stuff happens, get your a** out of the house, lock the door, and take the back roads to get down here with us. We have room for her and her hubby. I don’t know if he would leave his parents there, but I don’t want her stuck there. The other two children(grown) are already here..

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        • The Old Coach says:

          I’d figure that, what with the hundreds of thousands of government-employee millionaires in northern VA, they’d have the National Guard on every corner, all the way down to Charlottesville, and the risk from the DC zombies would be minimal.

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      • Arkaden says:

        You can be over cautious 1,000 times and live to hear about it, but you can only be wrong once and you’ll never be able to say I told you so.

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        • RICH99 says:

          I agree but think about it in reality , Americans protesting and marching are a nuisance but starving welfare ADDICTS are EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and that they will not test right now

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      • KP89DC says:

        If I were in that situation and had the opportunity to leave I surely would, can’t say that it’s panic but more of an intelligent move. If things go bad that house isn’t going to sell and you’ll have much more to worry about anyway.

        Molon Labe

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      • braveheart says:

        Southern Gal, I think your instincts are correct. Pack up what you believe is most important to have and head home ASAP. I don’t like the way things are shaping up out here. The trash in DC are playing a very dangerous game at this time. braveheart

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        • U D TR says:

          Brave buddy. Are you at your relatives BOL? Now do you realize it doesn’t matter who you vote for? All the same and all in your words politicians. The repubelicks had a chance to take over the senate, house and presidency and they are fucking it up. Can’t lead if factions all hate each other. I am not a dem I am not playing their stupid game. Keep spewing about individual politicians and mentally playing with yourself.
          By the way, you are not at your relatives BOL. Quit yelling people to run when you sit on your tub of goo ass.

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          • braveheart says:

            urban dog, I know it’s you posting under a different name. True, I’m not at my relatives’ BOL YET, but I didn’t know you believed in the system to any degree. I’m not a rep or dem, never have been and never will be. Who’s the moron now, @hole? what’s going on in DC is nothing more than one of their usual dog-and-pony shows and it’s not over yet. time will tell. enjoy that govt. check while you can. It’ll get cut off with everything else one day.

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            • Urban dog says:

              Yes moron brave. U and R are urban dog and tr is for troll. I have a business and get busy. Not masking who I am. Thought my pointing out your stupidity in direct terms would be obvious. I will spell it out for you.
              As for your feelings and pending doom along with fast acting chaos would make you BO to your relatives BOL. Guess you make fun of business owners while you can’t qualify for a loan with a consigner. Government check yes. I send them checks every quarter in the form of tax estimations.
              You are the asshole then, now and always. Go cry about your daady living off government pensions and social security ( like he earned them). Your daddy must be about 100 years old so he wont suck the tit much longer. How is his sister…er, your mom doing?

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        • North Georgia Idiot says:

          who gives a shit ?

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      • Smokey says:

        Get your house sold, even if you have to drop the price a bit. Most houses sell for about 94% of the asking price, or did, historically.

        Clean out the clutter, freshen up the curb appeal, and get hubby out of the house, occupied houses don’t sell, empty houses sell.

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      • Paranoid says:

        Yes and no, no reason not to move your stuff if you have a place to go. But just to move into a place you know nothing about isn’t a good idea. Without more data no one can say. IMHO we still have time. It’s unlikely to fall apart to where you cannot get out for at least several months. If it falls that fast, if you have a place to go just go,if you are even watching you should have time to run. If you have prepared. Lots of if’s

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      • Diaz says:

        Run?
        Where you running to?
        This is not going to just hit Northern Va… it’s going to be nationwide….
        and just wait till China makes their move with currency!
        There’s not going to be a place to run and hide on the entire planet.

        You have two choices..
        Be a human..or be a human that steals oxygen.
        Neither one is going to have it easy…and no human being alive today will see the end result, either way it goes.

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    24. mountain man 6-1 says:

      Sounds fishy to me . If the O’bammy troops are ready for a Nation Wide meltdown ,then THIS is a sure way to get it started !! I think we all know DHS was invented to keep the sheep in line and if this happens the first of Nov.,then it’s game on for the SHTF !! And DHS will start earning their pay . I just hope if martial law is declared ,that I can still travel three hours from here !! TOO many savages around here and I don’t have that much ammo !!…….Oh well ,I guess we’ll soon find out !??…..Stay Safe …..mm

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      • Night breaker says:

        Mountainman 6-1
        Most of us at DHS are on furlough at this time WITH ORDERS NOT TO REPORT
        You can guess who is going to take our place and it’s not going to be pretty . Big Oshitbama doesn’t trust veterans and most of DHS is composed of Veterans.

        Bucle up tight I told you something was going to go down like this on the First of October.
        every one should be getting their last items in and be prepared for government handouts to end and a possible GRID DOWN situation. they are doing this now to take advantage of cold weather
        This cold be one hell of a winter.

        Things are not looking good the longer this goes on the greater chance of a very bad event happening.

        RESIST

        ALEA IACTA EST

        III%

        Semper Fi 8541

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          An aquaintence of mine said that yesterday, thought it was odd seeing him at the supermarket in the middle of the day on a monday especially since he just took a new job, then he filled me in on the whole story out in the parkinglot where there were no ears,
          Was one of those hmmm kinda moments.
          Even he thought that some of what is going on doesnt smell right.
          Could be nothing, or could be our worst fears realized,
          Guess only time will tell.

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        • mountain man 6-1 says:

          @ Night breaker…..Copy That !! That’s good to know , I thought DHS would be like Home Guard in Civil War !! AND they were HELL !! THANKS …Stay Alert !!…mm

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      • Agree but another word other than savage might be appropriate, first is my surname, second it is an Irish word that means woodsman, and has been missed used for centuries. I would think that most preppers would consider themselves “woodsmen”. Just saying.

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    25. slingshot says:

      I Smell Blood!!

      Would they do it? Why not. They want to install martial law. What better way. Lots of Do Gooders and I know what is best for you people, are going to get trampled. Pay attention to what happens the first couple of weeks as that will determine which way the country goes.

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      • slingshot says:

        Just remember that if the riots and crap begins, the majority will be OBAMA followers.

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        • Kulafarmer says:

          And they bleed just like u n me!

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        • Diaz says:

          They will not be Obama followers.
          They will be oxygen-stealers..and they will be from every political affiliation, race, creed, religion, etc. etc….

          I just hope the humans don’t lose focus in the issues that need addressed at the same time as these ‘riots’.
          It’s going to be a tough road for all. People didn’t want to have to sacrifice their lives for change…but that’s exactly what every human, especially in the U.S., is going to have to face.
          I don’t like it any more than anyone else…and I really wish it didn’t have to come to this…but truth is truth.

          And China is about to make everyone on the globe, ESPECIALLY those of us in the U.S., put-up or shut-up.
          It’s that simple.
          What isn’t so simple, is keeping it all in focus of what NEEDS to be done and addressed to make a real change..instead of just destroying everything because ‘we’re not getting what we want, when we want’. I won’t fight that fight.
          I’d rather just stay with my family and protect them until my inevitable death, before I’d fight false pretenses, and another useless ‘war’.

          Speaking of which…if the troops awol and mutiny and start for ‘home’…THAT might make the difference and change might be able to be gotten in this country faster….
          But China is still about to throw everything into chaos.

          I wish everyone well…

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    26. Anonymous says:

      This is scare tactics, pure and simple. It’s a longstanding, well worn, and well known Communist method to coerce a resisting population to capitulate.

      Congress must stand fast and refuse to raise the debt ceiling, and they MUST stop Obamacare. We, as a nation, can withstand the continuance of funding welfare at current levels for a bit longer — like a year — but we cannot, under any circumstances, survive the implementation of Obamacare. It will impoverish all of us, and that, sports fans, is precisely what Obama and his rabid Communist minions wants to do to all but themselves and their chosen elite few.

      It’s classic Communist economic and psychological warfare.

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      • I hope you are right. I really do hope Obama wont do this to get his martial law rolling. I would be prepared just in case. If it does happen, it will happen fast.

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      • Sierra Dave says:

        The Communists that took over Russia were a small minority. Many, much to their regret went along with them and died.

        I absolutely 100% believe our government is compromised. They are trying to position themselves so as to have the numbers to win. And their hope is many will stay passive and let it happen.

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    27. slingshot says:

      I want my E.B.T.
      E.B.T. for you and me.

      I want my E.B.T
      E.B.T. because it’s Free.

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    28. JayJay says:

      ATM FAILURE: BANAMEX BANK, 2nd Largest Bank in Mexico and Owned by Citi.

      Hmmmm…

      stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33

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    29. Gonetoolong says:

      They will get a deal done. However, one of these days they will not. Kind of reminds me of a kid a few years back that kept riding his bike into my yard past the underground fence that my Dobie is within. He would taunt him and circle back and reapeat. Well he finally screwed up and fell off his bike the last go round. My dog got him on the leg. He has never been back. Fortunately for me his parents were cool and understood that their son was not “riding smart”. Our government will one day soon go too far and this shit will fall.

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    30. JayJay says:

      How many EBT card recipients will spend $15 – $60 dollars for Halloween costumes??
      I spent $2 on tootsie pops and that WILL be all.
      What a total waste of money.

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      • Archivist says:

        We buy candy we like. On Halloween, we keep the house dark, and then we eat all the candy because no one came to ask for it.

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        • IL woman says:

          I wait till after and get some on clearance, and pack it in buckets and store it with my preps. I think the kids will enjoy a Hershey bar after working in the garden, gathering wood and hauling water.

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          • Archivist says:

            Plain Hershey bars will last for years if kept cool and in the dark. Mine from Y2K lasted for about 10 years, but I gave in and ate them. I have some Millennium M&Ms from 2000 that I’m keeping long-term as an experiment. I might open a bag and eat one in 2020.

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        • wrong says:

          We go to Target first thing the day after and buy all we want for the year for 75% off. Those damn M&M don’t can worth a shit though..

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          • Paranoid says:

            The Chocolate ones keep for YEARS under the couch. I know I found some Halloween candy at my parents when I moved furniture that had to be well over 10 years old. The peanut kind can go rancid, but still OK. Try vacuum sealing them in a Mason jar.

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      • Only the ones that recieve cash assistance, but it is unfortunate that you can buy candy with foodstamps, but not toilet paper!

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      • Smokey says:

        Our local Goodwill and a Value Village thrift shop are going nuts with junk costumes this year.

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    31. Peter Pan says:

      I am wondering whether the food stamp problem might do some good.

      It might make people think twice about buying junk such as soft drinks and alcohol and instead it might make them use some of those savings to build up a pantry for emergencies..

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      • Highspeedloafer says:

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

        THAT WAS A GOOD ONE Peter Pan!!!

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      • Shootit says:

        Dumping food stamps would bring down health care costs. FSC/EBT recipients would have to get off the couch and get active. No more fat free loaders, less medical issues. Never used to see a fat poor person.

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    32. Socrates says:

      This comment from a few threads ago ties into this. Coincidence? Not.

      maybe my name is larry the walmart guy says:
      Comment ID: 2748549

      October 14, 2013 at 11:08 am

      I don’t know if you remember me, but I’ve wrote on these comments before, I work at Walmart, I have gotten a look at a memo that came in to the managers emails. It states the following ” In the month of December Walmart will not be taking EBT or any government something something something, I was caught looking at it and told by my manager to close it down, I did. It also stated something about the government will begin to do something with all Walmart’s next year. I had to do something called cbl(training) on the managers computer because the other computers were broken or not working and that is when I noticed that I could read his emails, because he left it minimized on the bottom of his screen, I acted like it was already there when he saw me reading it, and then he shut it down and I went ahead and finished taking the training class. I have noticed also in the back the cops now guard the trailers in the back when the food arrives, they didn’t do this before, they make us unload it and place it in the back stockroom and in the freezers. They used to let it sit in their for several hours, now they are acting like it’s precious cargo. I work in a very busy walmart in a big city. I don’t like the way it’s looking.

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    33. baracalypse says:

      All stocked up on beers, popcorn and AAA batteries for the remote….. as well as other things.

      There could be some exciting TV coming up!

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    34. Slippery Red says:

      I guess last Saturday was a test.
      This will justify Martial Law….

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    35. John says:

      So, if they DO raise the debt ceiling (they WILL, no doubt about it), does that still mean there will be no SNAP funding for November? Or is this only something that will (supposedly) happen if they DON’T raise it?

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      • BlueH20 says:

        IIRC, there is something in the sequester that limits SNAP money. Right now, Dems are insisting that the sequester be removed.

        Not accepting EBT in December, the Christmas month, would be the height of stupidity, even for this administration.

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    36. CWinOR says:

      I expect we’ll be seeing alot of those 2700 MRAP’S being transported to population centers.

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      • Archivist says:

        I don’t live in a population center, so I guess I won’t get to see them.

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      • Night breaker says:

        Definatly keep your eyes and ears open ,
        Look for those MRAPS and support equipment , fuel tankers, duce and a half supply trucks ,
        Fuel bladders being set up for aero mobile operations . For them to do this it will not happen overnight too many logistics have to be moved prossibably at night . Look for large flat bed trucks with 2′X2 cubes of concertina wire . In my opinion they will try to set up FOB’s for stocking operational equipment and air assets (Helo’s.) They may try to infiltrate areas in plane clothes with concealed equipment that’s the scary part , look for people who do not fit in , who you don’t know, ie, guys in cars in multiple with government plates ant going to the GBLT conference!
        Most of this stuff could be brought in under the cover of bad weather and at night.
        They are going for shock and awe in the first implementation., do not let it rattle you, all plans go awry with first contact with the opposition. Time works in our favor if you are prepared.

        Your first warning may be road blocks on the morning or afternoon commutes , your second warning may be waking up to no power and the rumble of military vechicles in the night.

        Be observant ! when you see this let us all know on this site .

        Prepare accordingly.

        RESIST NO MATTER WHAT

        III%

        Semper Fi 8541

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      • Sierra Dave says:

        If their is chaos and then Martial law. And the gov focuses on the cities and starts gun confiscation IN the cities.

        Is that a sign to go on the offensive? Once they are done disarming the cities. Are we rural folks next?

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    37. Well-Stocked. says:

      Did i hear BA-BA-BA, BAAAAAAAAAAA. coming from that mother sheep and her sheeple children in the picture that went with this article. Maybe if that sheeple women would have put something aside for for the hard times that she looks like she is enduring then maybe her countenance might look alittle less stressed. BA-BA-BA!

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    38. Haywood says:

      Ever stop to think that IF this gubberment shutdown causes EBT to stop, it will cause utter chaos and is a way for odummy to declare martial law? BTW – IF odummy declares martial law, the Constitution is VOID!!!! And he becomes president “INDEFINITELY”…aka “DICTATOR”.

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      • Diaz says:

        Absolutely.
        Obama can make an Executive Order to suspend ALL elections until the ‘threat’ of Martial Law, and let’s not forget the terrorism hoax, has passed.
        He almost had to do it last year…but TPTB got him to squeak by this time.

        The citizens are waking-up, but still aren’t fully awake.
        When they do wake-up, they better hope they are on the human side..and not the oxygen-stealer’s.

        Either way, it’s going to be UGLY in this country.

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    39. Midwesterner says:

      I have never replied on here before but have read with interest all that has been said for quite a while. I have been torn in the arguments given here. Let me start out by saying I have never been on Welfare or Foodstamps or Public Aid. For most of my adult life I have been self employed. About ten years ago I started working for others & during this time I have come to realize just how hard it is to find a decent paying job. I believe this whole mess has been planned for years. First they ship off all the manufaturing jobs, all the good paying jobs, & leave us with jobs that at one time were considered “second jobs”, jobs people got as a secondary income. Now these jobs are all some have but thy still pay like “secondary jobs”.
      I don’t believe that all these folks on EBT, Snap, & welfare want to be there, they just can’t find a decent job. Sure there are some that have been on welfare for generations but I don’t think it is the majority.
      I have been a prepper for longer than I want to remember, started back in the 70′s reading Mel Tappan’s warnings & have been going strtong ever since.
      In that time I went from self employed & making great money to working for others & making a lot less & have seen our economy go down the toilet. I came pretty close to being like some of these people are, though I was able to find work & thank God I didn’t have to go on welfare. But I do have sympathy on those that have no other choice.

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      • Average Guy says:

        There’s always a choice, Midwesterner.

        And right now, there’s a sh ton of jobs in the Midwest.

        I don’t know what your definition is of, “a decent job” but to me, it’s one that puts food on the table. Pure and simple. And there are plenty of those, …so far. …
        Until automation kicks in to replace all the workers that are priced out of a job due to rising minimum wage rates.

        The funny thing is, most people it seems don’t realize, Americans haven’t offshored jobs, they’ve regulated and taxed them away.

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      • Diaz says:

        It IS, and HAS BEEN planned for years.(Started in 1913, if you want to get technical)
        Although, TPTB weren’t quite ready to have to do some of the things they are forced to do(in their eyes). Hence all the desperation from them lately.
        Hopefully, enough of a wrench has been thrown into their plans to curb/stop them.

        But it’s still going to ugly. And it’s not going to go away if everyone stays ‘submissive’.

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    40. Be informed says:

      The failure of the government can be equated with a Married With Children episode. Peg the dead beat wife was selling cosmetics and getting a commission on what she sold. Al, the hapless shoe salesman husband couldn’t figure out how Peg was making so much money selling the cosmetics. Al wanted to get the names of the fools buying the make up and maybe take advantage of such idiots. Al looked at Peg’s receipts top whom she sold all the make -up to. All receipts were to Peggy Bundy, herself. Al says, “she is her own customer”. Steve the next door neighbor says “Al, your life is pathetic”.

      Al later tries to explain to Peg what economics are. Peg says that she gets money and checks for selling the cosmetics. Al says, but you have to send in much bigger checks each time to cover the sales to yourself. This sends your husband rocketing to the poor house. The same is true with the government as they continue to send out bigger and bigger checks to make it appear to the public that everything with the economy is fine and improving. Bigger and bigger checks to cover themselves. Just keep raising debt ceiling. Keep shelling out credit on a card ready to explode into the stratosphere. Just like the TV sitcom in which Peg didn’t get it, neither does the masses. Bigger and bigger checks means the US debt rocketing into default AUTOMATICALLY with or without bipartisian agreement.

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    41. InsanityISContagious says:

      Obama refuses to negotiate and now EBT is being closed down? Smells like martial law to me.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Dont you love how they roll, these donkeys say the tea party and repubs are holding us all hostage, when the dems and donkeys ass boy obummer wont negotiate.
        Fuck em, let it die!

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        • slingshot says:

          Kulafarmer.

          The majority of our nation lives pretty good compared to other countries, so one could understand why we do not want to upset the apple cart. Would we like to see the country turn around and become prosperous again and out of debt? Sure do.
          Question is how willing are we to correct it. How much financial collateral damage can we absorb. The problem is that conditions are so bad either by not preparing or unable to prepare, that a significant amount needed to protest has not been obtained to act successfully against the government. Any change will be by force and not by negotiation.
          To those stuck in the middle where they truly need
          assistance, the tactic of our President to make statements that we, hold hostage our people is one of desperation and that his actions are despicable, as they sell our people into bondage. A fate worse than being held hostage. There are many who can not see the invisible chains being placed upon themselves but will soon feel them.

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          • Kulafarmer says:

            Im growing very tired of the games these politicians are playing.
            These are peoples lives they dicker over and discount as insignificant.
            I have a different kind of hope and change in mind.

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    42. wormdirt says:

      As the saying goes – whoever controls the food controls the population. I was expecting a November surprise.

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    44. incognito says:

      I think that SNAP ending is equivalent to bank holiday or extended grid down situation in terms of the repercussions that will be felt by all of us. It is TEOTWAWKI and one of the three things mentioned above that I concluded long ago that would signal clearly to everyone that believes “the economy is getting better” that we are indeed collapsing. Seems it’s here folks. Soon are recently militarized Barney Fife’s will be working overtime and growing cold.

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    45. My friend did mention her EBT was not loaded for Nov this morning it usually loaded on the 15th. They have not had EBT long and thought maybe they did paperwork wrong then I saw this.

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    46. mallardhen says:

      I guess this more or less comes down to back in the 90′s we had Ronald Regan, Johnny Cash, & Bob Hope; now we have Obama, no hope, and no cash.

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    47. old guy says:

      Its very possible that the government checks EBT cet could fail to arrive. Because it would further the Un & NWO Agenda 21 plans. Those folks know time is running out. We are overdue for some worldwide mega clatyclismic event. The end of an age earth changes will continue to happen. they keep increasing in both frequency and magnitude. Man cant mitigate them.

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    48. Fed Up says:

      Life as usual here. The stupid political posturing, flapping and waving of those sucking the teats, and all the pointless yelling going on are falling on deaf ears in this house. We live our lives, make ourselves useful to each other, prep on, and try to be as self-reliant as a family can be. On the matter of all this “information” that keeps leaking out…I’ll keep an open mind, but it won’t be so open that my brains fall out.

      Fed Up

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    49. RickE. says:

      Let ‘er rip! It’s inevitable anyway. We need a reset of society. Our nation did fine without welfare, the federal reserve, and income taxes for MANY MANY years!

      Folks had to pitch in and do things prudently and plan ahead instead of irresponsibly living for today.

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    50. Be informed says:

      Okay you want to see the comparison between the US government and true idiocy of Married With Children TV episode. I found the episode on You Tube. The whole thing is 22 minutes and is one of the funnier sitcoms, but the true comparison with the US government starts at about 18.00 minutes. When Al slaps himself in the head at the absurdity of the situation, this is the way those that can see what the US government is doing with debt must all feel. True stupidity of the fictional comedy world interacts with the real ignorance of the US government and all those that continue to support these retards.

      Anyone wanting a good laugh, you might want to see this. “A three job, no income family”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEXfrQDGUg

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    51. Nopittypartyhere says:

      Came outta the woods today for a little phone check on my family.

      I’ve spent the last two days building a fire pit from stones around the old house site, gonna finishe the uphill side built in ‘benches’

      Made my first dutch oven Meal today. Pretty cool. I’ve decided I’m going to start doing this at home. I’ve heard you can make biscuits in a Dutch oven….have to work on this. The hardest part was finding a good, slow hot burning wood for the fire. Most of the dead stuff around here s poplar or pine.

      So glad I’m not home to obsess over this ebt crap. I’m busy playing in he woods!

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      • pissinwiththewind says:

        Dutch oven biscuits are great. You have to practice with the coals and not have too many hot coals underneath or the bottoms will burn. Pack the lid with coals as soon as possible when you get her set down on ashy coals.

        My dutch oven has little legs, so I try to place some rocks in the coals for them to set on. Don’t forget to grease the inside good or they may stick.

        Practice makes perfect.

        I was planning on building an old fashioned clay and rock oven with a door until I ran across an old wood fired cook stove. It will come in very handy if the grid goes down or I no longer can afford the electricity from the thieving power companies.

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      • Kulafarmer says:

        Ive had cornbread, and also regular bread anf focaccia bread made in a dutch oven,
        Roasted chicken with stuffing, now thats the stuff!

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    52. Satori says:

      *****H7N9 UPDATE*****

      China confirms new human H7N9 case

      http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking_news_detail.asp?id=41925&icid=2&d_str=

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    53. Nopittypartyhere says:

      Just spoke to my mom….Saturday they cleared the Walmart where she lives and closed it down. Police forced cash paying customers and all to leave. They were near rioting. Same in Jackson MS. Hadn’t seen anywhere that they actually closed the stores.

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    54. Satori says:

      Worse than Healthcare.gov: EBT food stamp system crash is inevitable; here’s why

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/worse-than-healthcare-gov-ebt-food-stamp-system-crash-is-inevitable-heres-why.html

      Are Food Stamp Riots Coming? Stores Ransacked and Torn Apart during Food Stamp Outage

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/are-food-stamp-riots-coming-stores-ransacked-and-torn-apart-during-food-stamp-outage.html

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    55. Satori says:

      Strong typhoon heads for Japan’s nuclear plant

      http://www.theburningplatform.com/2013/10/15/holy-fukushima/

      “A powerful typhoon was closing in on Japan on Tuesday, heading towards the Fukushima nuclear power plant.

      Typhoon Wipha, packing winds of up to 144 kilometres per hour near its centre, was in the Pacific south of Japan early this morning.

      It has been forecast to reach an area off the Tokyo metropolitan area by early Wednesday and then head toward the coast of Fukushima where the crippled nuclear power plant sits.”

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    56. Satori says:

      No, I Will Not Help, Donate, Or Continue

      http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3286798

      “In other words when the system malfunctioned WalMart tried to do the right thing and be compassionate. What they got in return was robbed by a phalanx of looters, EBT holders all, who literally pillaged the store and ran up charges they knew were bogus.”

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    57. Seen2013 says:

      “What will happen to the nearly 50 million people who depend on these benefits to survive?”

      Within 24 hours, it’ll turn into a riot. Within 72 hours, the administration declares a national catastrophe. Within an additional 72 hours, food stamp and cash recipients report to their new work assignment through the jobs programs like per say the TSA and enforce curfew, door to door searches, and etc.

      As I tried pointing out, these are the people who are conditioned to work and obey government through sanctions on their ‘benefits’ of food, cash, medical, and housing.
      I’ll reiterate: Non-compliance for each offense is:
      1 offense= 1 month no food, no cash
      2 offense= 3 months no food, no cash
      3 offenses= 6 months no food, no cash, and may suspend medical
      4 offenses= 1 year no food, no cash, and suspension of medical
      5 offenses= 3 years no food, no cash, and suspension of medical
      6 offenses= 6 years no food, no cash, and suspension of medical

      Up to 50 million people are on food stamps and likely on cash, medicaid/medicare, and much more as required to remain in compliance, do you have any doubt when TSA goes nationwide beyond bus, train, harbors, and airports; it’s contract isn’t going to be added to the college, factory, infrastructure, and etc work assignments of the works program food stamps and cash require compliance of beneficiaries to participate in?

      You’re not just looking at rioters; you’re looking at our future crackdown enforcers after a declaration of national catastrophe. Who better to enforce unconstitutional orders than those trained to submit and obey the ones giving the orders?

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      • cabinfever says:

        Nope. Do you realize all the red tape and paperwork it would take for the one offense, two offense scenario? One offense and you’re done. With everything. We’re staring at the NWO eyeball to eyeball now. There are no second chances in that world.

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    58. MicMPK says:

      Ohhhh S.N.A.P!

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    59. I wish that I played a fiddle, but I play a clarinet, so I’ll be tooting in the Appalachian hills while the EBT recipients are running amok, looting, burning, and trapping rats for food.

      Rats in a cream sauce. Rat flambe. Rat tartare. Deep-fried rat. Rat on a stick. Rat hors d’oeuvre. Rat necrom with bonemeal gravy. Rat ragu with powdered deer penis.

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    60. Pete K says:

      What’s with the rubber stamped date on the “leaked” letter? Nobody uses those anymore. How is this even believable?

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      • Smokey says:

        Yes, they still do use date stamps. The letter is written by staff and the date is affixed to the signed hard copy, that’s the official date of release, when the boss got cornered and signed it.

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    61. Mike says:

      The inevitable’s coming, now or later.

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    62. BillyB says:

      Is it just me, or does anyone else ever notice that people with those ebt cards always act like it’s their first time using them. They be in line with a cart full of all of their freebies, put the groceries on the counter for the cashier to ring up and bag, then they take out their ebt card and IT’S LIKE THEY NEVER USED THE DAMN THING BEFORE. First they have the card upside down or backwards while trying to swipe it and the cashier has to instruct them on the proper way to do it. Then they’re trying to figure out which buttons to push and in what order. Then they forget to put their pin number in, nothings working so they think the machine is broke and the cashier AGAIN has to instruct them on how to use the damn thing. I swear, I hate it when I’m in the checkout line behind people who are shopping with those ebt cards.

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      • Geralt says:

        so that is what all those random hold ups are while on line

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      • pissinwiththewind says:

        Just remember; some of those folks using EBT are disabled and are trying, or have tried, and were turned down, to get their SS Disability started. Some States make it so hard to start drawing off the “retirement funds” that were forcibly deducted from their paychecks for decades, that they have no choice but to go with the food stamps system.

        I know there are people drawing off their retirement/SS that are able to work, but there are just as many that deserve to get SS Disability and are turned down for various reasons. We shouldn’t make judgements about people we don’t know, until we have walked a mile in their shoes. Let God be the judge.

        The system isn’t entirely fair, but for the most part it works for those that hire a good lawyer. I know most lawyers suck, but it is the way it is and people are left with few choices.

        If they have “incompetent” doctors, they are in for a real battle. They are left to the discretions of a judge. Most SS Disability Judges are fair and competent and can read thru a fake.

        Sometimes a person is just plain, shit out of luck, and has to resort to welfare or whatever means to survive. Like it or not, welfare and the food stamp program was intended for those folks.

        Before the social security system, people that were disabled or just down on their luck could count on their relatives, the community, or the local Church.

        Not so much anymore.

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        • sixpack says:

          The injury to my cervical vertebrae was so severe, that it took me one doctor’s exam and one MRI to get signed up. That is almost unheard of these days. Usually it takes years of getting turned down, before you finally get accepted. Not for me, because my injury was REAL and real serious. I’m recovering a little, very slowly, but I think I’m only dreaming about ever being anywhere close to normal again.

          On the bright side, I FOUND I HAVE A PREPPER NEIGHBOR! Someone who isn’t afraid of being armed. Someone with some skills. Someone CLOSE. Just someone who isn’t scared is a start.

          Oh happy day!

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          • brinksmom says:

            WTG on your prepper neighbor, sixpack! I called a new man in town to help me with a computer problem and he showed up a 7:30 am with concealed carry and felt free to talk politics after he saw my stack of reading material on the credenza. Love meeting like-minded people!

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          • pissinwiththewind says:

            Wishing you the best, sixpack.

            I was in a lot of pain because of hard living and being worked like a rented mule since I was seven years old. Never did i think that signing a stack of legal waivers to have a wisdom tooth removed in 2006 would be my demise, or what feels like the end of life as i once knew it.

            a piece of shit oral surgeon just about ripped my head off while i was under. He torked my head and neck so bad that my C-1 is twisted by 6 degrees. As i understand it, 9 to 12 degrees is total paralysis in most bodies.

            I suffer, and i repeat “suffer” daily and nightly. Because of incompetent doctors and lawyers. I am still looking for my 1st disability check, of which i paid for over the previous 42 years.

            It’s a game, to fight for what is rightfully yours sometimes. I’m not the right color or not fat enough to look like i’m fucking hurt.

            Anyways, I saw the writing on the wall in 2005 and started getting my debts paid off so i’m not hopeless like some. If the Lord tarries, i may see some of my retirement funds from SS. I am looking for that eternal body without the pain and suffering, so whatever happens until then is just shit i have to wade thru to get to the other side anyhow.

            Oh happy day!
            PWTW

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            • sixpack says:

              I have some idea of what you’re going through. For me, it was hard to come to terms with the fact that I just can’t do all the things I used to. I practiced martial arts for decades, but now, very little of that training applies for me. I won’t be framing any houses anytime soon, but I can still turn a wrench. I can still teach what I know.

              I spent about 3 years feeling sorry for myself, dwelling only on my losses. I thought for a while, that I was simply “done”. It was hard to learn to live with the constant pain you must know all too well.

              But I’m NOT done…I’m just getting started.

              You are too.

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    63. Kazz says:

      IF IT IS NOT OBVIOUS TO POEPLE NOW IT NEVER WILL BE. THE ELITE ARE CRIMINALS WHOSE SOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO WIPE THE MAJORITY OF HUMANITY OUT. GOOGLE ‘AGENDA 21′. IT IS TIME TO BECOME SELF SUFFICIENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    64. thefulishbastid says:

      RIOTS! PANIC! LOOTING!

      I am sooo going on a “tax free” shopping trip on Nov 1 if this hsit goes down!

      Gotta get while the gettins good after all.

      Just take your piece with you, it’ll be good practice.

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    65. ponomo says:

      slow day…but O still sucks.

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    66. ponomo says:

      slow day…but O still sucks.

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    67. meatinteeth says:

      America! Reminds me of a giant Zeek rewards scam. People will wake up next week, next month, next year and believe that it’s still not a ponzi scam that has crashed.

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    68. Ancient Echoes says:

      This could be what we have all been prepping for, it really could be the end of everything this time. The end of the road has to come sometimes, but wouldn’t the elite just shit if we all did like in that one Batman movie where there were two boats, one full of innocent people, the other full of criminals. They had 5 minutes to either blow up the other or the Joker would blow them both up. What if the elite threw an “end of the world party” and no one participated.

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    69. Ugly says:

      I wonder when Smokin is going to give us a ‘Trucker’ report.

      1. How did go.
      2. Was it a good start.
      3. What did you see.
      4. Was it successful considering first attempt.
      5. What did you like and dis-like about the event.

      Just some of my thoughts.

      Thanks Truckers!

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    70. braveheart says:

      interesting article at naturalnews.com about this situation. http://www.naturalnews.com/042510_ebt_cards_system_crash_government_default.html#

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    71. Satori says:

      World Premiere: SHADE the Motion Picture

      http://www.activistpost.com/2013/10/world-premiere-shade-motion-picture.html

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    72. The VOICE from the Outer World says:

      Good Evening Everyone,

      A flare of magnitde M-1.3 occurred at 23:26 UTC, and is by al appearances a ‘spike’ type occurrance. AND that concludes the obligatory’s here for the evening…

      Some few weeks ago I here posted a proposal for a Declaration of Nullification whose intent would be to effect a reversal of the process by which the Federal monstrosity first began to come into existence…via the original Declaration of Independence. I submit, here, this very night, that NOW it is time to seriously consider the propsal as written. Specifically, it is my resolute belief that the further continuation of the Fedral government of these United States will result – in relatively short order – in cataclysmic responses in the finacial structure of the World IRRESPECTIVE of whether a ‘last minute accomodation’ is arrived at or no.
      For in truth, the damage is already done….individual (and spercifically, foreign investor) confidence is shaking itself to pieces as we here consider the matters at hand.

      The abject inepritude of the Congress of the United States need not be here visited….such is EVIDENT to ANY who have eyes with which to see – that much – at LEAST – is plain. Here, today, we stand on the brink of the Abyss, one that if WE tumble thereinto will likely result in consequences so horrifying that any description that might be offered here would simply be ‘inadequate’. The finacial consequences would be little short of TOTAL…and yet it is what follow AFTER with which we here should be concerned. eldom in Hitory has any Great Empire fallen abruptly that the result was NOt WAR. Need I remid you here what WAR in this dya and age would entail? Mr Einstein was once asked that question and his reply was TERRIFYING.

      I ask you all here this eve: WHEN is “ENOUGH” actually, ENOUGH? When do “We, The People” say – Yea, even in a single VOICE – ENOUGH!!!

      I submit here, therefor, that the various STATE legislatures of this country should – FORTHWITH – begin drafting legislation to effect the DISSOLUTION of the Federal vampire ere we do fall over the precipice which lies at our very feet. Our Forefathers foresaw this possibility…and were discomfitted by it, in extremis.
      Madison – as well as Adams – refered to this – as we see it today, NOW (as he termed it), “Hyperpluralism’…a state of affairs in which so many varied interest were contesting for the reins of Power that the effect would be equivalent to trying to pull a single object in a multitude of different directions – simultaneously! Is this NOT what we see around us today…where the various MONIED ‘Special Interest’ in co-opting the reins of Governance, have effectively paralysed it completely, or no? What say you?

      Rest assured, Ladies and Gentlemen, that my CONTEMPT for this Congress…and indeed, the entire Federal edifice is now UTTERLY COMPLETE. A previous Supreme Court Justice (at a time when that was something to ASPIRE to being) Justice Brandieis, said that when government becomes the law-breakers they inspire contempt for the Law; that every Man would thereater become a law unto himself….Anarchy. We are but HOURS away from that becoming a possible reality…when the Congress – having completely abdicated it’s PROPER duties allows for this once-great Nation to lapse into a state of DEFAULT, thus leaving the People with no other recourse than to MAKE thier OWN LAWS….personally, individaully! What say you, one and ALL?

      Again, and finally, I ask…IS IT TIME YET? Your answer WILL be required of you VERY soon I thin, whether you give it willingly or no. May He have Mercy on Us ALL…

      JOG

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      • Ugly says:

        JOG.

        Thanks and definitely a good idea.

        You keep saying your upset with Congress; does that mean you are ok with the POTUS?

        Why is the POTUS given a pass in all this?

        Hope things are going good for you and your family.

        Life as we know it has changed. Enjoy the good things in Life, even if it is a Solar Flare.

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        • The VOICE from the Outer World says:

          Howdy UG!

          Au Contraire Pierre!…in my best FRENCH accent :)

          The state of affairs is roughly this Friend: the Executive branch has been – for some time – efectively paralyzed by a plethora of exigent circumstances that we NEEDN’T get into here. It is the case that the ‘Special Interest’ LONG ago discovered that they could simply BUY what they wanted…s Senator, a Congress-criiter, etc. and that THAT was WHOLE lot more effective than any silly old Prez. Worse though, BIG MONEY discovered that it could BUY whole arms of the Federal Government – at wholeslae prices, no less! – and that THAT was the MOST effective way of all, of getting what THEY WANTED.

          But of course you have to be JP Morgan or Citi or Goldman-Sachs to pull that off, Eh? I have mentioned here before – REPEATEDLY – that the Hopi predict that ‘In the Endtimes, the ‘High Ones’ WILL be hunted”…
          I can WELL SEE that beginning on or about , Oh say, the second of next MONTH. Kinda WARMS my Heart actually Friend…just thinking about all those politiicans and Wealthy SHITZ who bought them, HANGING side-by-side fromn EVERY lamppost along the American inerstate highway system. Brings a tear of JOY to my eye, it does!

          REMEMBER though!!! When your driving along the highway with your Children and you see those HANGING along the roadside be VERY CAREFUL to slow the car to a steady,m COMPLETE halt before getting out – with them – to take the pictures for your Family album…never let the car come to halt TOO FAST…someone MIGHT get HURT.

          Also, be sure to explain to them – CLEARLY, PATIENTLY, what HAPPENS to BAD MEN who FUCK with the GOVERNMENT for thier own personal gain….we wouldn’t want a GOOD lesson like THAT to go to waste now, would we? ;)

          Sooo, here at the end of this itty-bitty missive I have only one, last question,

          “Got ROPE?”

          Good to jabber at you Friend! I hope you enjoy the humor implicit here…

          JOG

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          • The VOICE from the Outer World says:

            Oh, and yea…things are VERY well here. Winter i pon our doorstep now, but we are WELL prepared thusfor.

            Also…there will be a NEW DAWN Brother…I promise you that, and it WILL be coming VERY soon now. There is yet a bit of hard, cold night to be gotten through, but I have Faith that many here will manage…I WILL see you on the other side of that…and THEN WE WILL REBUILD A WORLD, SO HELP ME GOD, so sayeth JOG, Amen.

            JOG

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      • Shootit says:

        Mr. President where is your budget? Mr. President you have not submitted a budget as required by law for the past four years. Mr. President the current state of affairs is because we do not have your budget. Mr. President send us your budget and we will work on reopening government. Sincerely, Congress.

        That is how to rip his sails. Then sit around and listen to him wail. No, Mr. President you can’t have another ice cream cone until you finish your budget.

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        • pissinwiththewind says:

          or you could say: you can’t beat your meat until you fudge your pudding. or maybe it’s; you can’t have any fudge pudding until you finish your meat.

          wtf ever, pink floyd caused it. lol

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    73. jim in Va. says:

      I’m going with my gut. I’m topping off my preps just in case. you all best do the same,take no chances.

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    74. Grandma says:

      If they would reduce slowly the amount of food stamps given every month, they would shop more carefully for the best deals. They would also realize they have to earn their own money if they were taken away. They need to prepare their own selves for what could happen.

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    75. SHTF WHAT TO DO WHEN IT HITS says:

      We interrupt the SHTF plan site to bring you how we all feel about congress.

      Please substitute “the good life” show for the term “Congress”.
      Enjoy…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQCi67CQHXY

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    76. Buzzfix says:

      50 million people are going to have to sacrifice themselves for the progression of the socialist state. They’ll all receive Hero of the state status. Czar comrade Obampka greatly appreciates the order of the working class! They are the strength of the motherland. The USSA. Motherland is very very hungry and is in great need of peasants.

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    77. Sgt. Dale says:

      This EBT B.S. over the shut down is just another way to get this Gov. back to spending the hard earned money of the middle class. with Obullshit getting his way.
      Here you go, the Zombies will be walking the streets. None of these LEACHES put anything back for the future. most of them get these card and but shit they don’t need or they sell what is left on their card for cash to get stuff like BOOB jobs or drugs, and alcohol. They just want the hard working middle class to take care of them. They just can’t see that if you fill the cookie jar, and you don’t put anymore cookies in it it will soon be empty. The LEACHES will expect you to put more cookies in it, and when you don’t they will hit the streets.
      Blaming this on the shut down is B.S. This is just a way to get the LEACHES burning things down so we have to rebuild it for them. I say “hell no” keep the SHUT GOING, If the EBT’s don’t work too FRIGGING BAD. Now its time to see who is taking care of these LEACHES since LBJ in 1965. The HAD WORKING MIDDLE CLASS. We get no respect from these LEACHES. Well when the EBT’s don’t work let see where they run to!
      Let the SHTF its coming, so what the hell let it now.
      I’m ready if they are not too bad!

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      • sixpack says:

        Sorry Sgt., but they don’t make EBT cards big enough to sell for a boob job. Drugs, probably. Booze, most likely, but even cheap boob jobs cost thousands of dollars and are you sure any EBT zombie could actually save up enough of their EBT for something like that? No way, even if they wanted to.

        You gotta at least be reasonable when you rant.

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        • Sgt. Dale says:

          Sixpack
          There was a news article about a gal that just used a little of her EBT card/ welfare each month because she was a working girl. She sold what was left of her EBT cards over a period of several month to get a boob job. The interview might by on you tube. I’m not making this up.

          Can anyone out there help me on this to show Sixpack where the article is, or where it could be seen. I knopw I just saw it a few days to maybe a week ago or so.

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          • PuppyPrepper says:

            I saw the video interview of her also.

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          • sixpack says:

            I’ll take your word for it, but do you really think it’s right to generalize an entire group of people, based on ONE SINGLE KNOWN INCIDENT? One in more than 50 million? C’mon, that’s a little narrowly focused, isn’t it?.

            I’d say she owes some reimbursement, to say the least.

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