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    5 Urgent Warnings From Big Banks That the “Economy Has Gone Suicidal”

    Mac Slavo
    October 14th, 2016
    SHTFplan.com
    Comments (163)
    Read by 26,101 people

    economy-storm

    The economy has gone suicidal.

    It is working against the very people who need its energy to survive. It is collapsing on its own weight, and the weight of literally incalculable levels of toxic debt. And it is going to create the greatest disaster of our time, if the warnings from the world’s most powerful bankers are any indication.

    While the general population is obsessed with the details of the world’s most entertaining and bizarre election in American history, the big banks are gearing up for a deadly serious economic collapse.

    Just during the past few weeks, there have been major discussions about stock markets dropping, the insolvency of Europe’s biggest investment bank, the mounting debt crisis and a deeper, long-term decline for ‘everyday Americans.’

    Here’s what you probably missed while the Hillary-Trump cage match has taken over the collective psyche:

    1. HSBC Issues “Red Alert” Over Imminent Sell-Off of Stocks

    The U.S. stock market is artificially propped up by the Federal Reserve, but their ability to stimulate the economy has worn off. Immunity has set in, and they’ve got nothing left.

    It is only a matter of time until Yellen raises rates.

    When the shoe drops, everything falls with it.

    via Business Insider:

    In a note to clients released Wednesday, Murray Gunn, the head of technical analysis for HSBC, said he had become on “RED ALERT” for an imminent sell-off in stocks given the price action over the past few weeks.

    […]

    In late September, Gunn said the stock market’s moves looked eerily similar to those just before the 1987 stock market crash. Citi’s Tom Fitzpatrick also highlighted the market’s similarities to the 1987 crash just a few days ago. “With the US stock market selling off aggressively on 11 October, we now issue a RED ALERT,” Gunn said.

    2. I.M.F. Issues “Stability Warning” Over Deutsche Bank

    Germany’s – and Europe’s – largest investment bank is in the midst of a terrible crisis with its balance sheets, overloaded with toxic debt that is big enough to topple several continents. Goldman Sachs and others, of course, have echoed their concerns.

    According to the NY Times:

    “The focus of investors has shifted from the level of capital to the business model, and that is why banks are under pressure,” said Peter Dattels, deputy director in the I.M.F.’s capital markets division.

    In their report, the fund’s economists argued that the problems with European banks were deeply structural: a toxic brew of low levels of capital, troubled loans and business models that no longer delivered profits in an era of low growth and negative interest rates.

    In particular, Mr. Dattels said, “banks are transitioning from outdated business models that rely on large scale balance sheets,” saying that Deutsche Bank fell into this bucket.

    Economists and regulators have argued that Deutsche Bank, given its size and culture of risk-taking, poses more of a risk to financial markets than its peers in Europe and the United States.

    As per usual with the haunting spectre of 2008, Deutsche Bank’s demise threatens contagion on a global basis, and will almost certainly infect U.S. markets as well.

    3. Bank of America Warns That a Recession is Imminent, and Unavoidable

    As SHTF reported, even the big banks are being forced to admit that stimulus is no longer working, and that consequences are happening.

    The Fed’s disastrous rescue plan after the 2008 financial crisis has left the U.S. economy in a fragile and vulnerable state.

    via CNBC:

    “We are seven years into a full-fledged, all out, central bankers doing everything they can to stimulate demand,” Bank of America-Merrill Lynch’s head of U.S. equity and quantitative strategy Savita Subramanian recently warned on CNBC’s ” Fast Money .”

    “We looked at all of these indicators that have been pretty good at forecasting recessions and we extrapolated that if they follow the current trends they’re on, we’re going to hit a recession sometime in the second half of next year.”

    […]

    “What scares me is the market been so fragile.

    Again, we’re playing with musical chairs here, not theoretical possibilities. The recording will end, and play time will be over.

    4. Macquarie Group’s Leading Investor Warns That the Private Sector Will Never Recover From QE3… and the Age of Human Jobs Is Over

    Federal Reserve monetary policy has absolutely eviscerated small businesses. Even typical players in investment markets are no longer able to get returns in private investment.

    This is forcing a de facto state-run economy, and to make matters worse, all the humans are about to be laid off as robots take their jobs.

    In the coming decade, 3.5 million truckers will lose their jobs, and along with will go waitresses, secretaries, teachers, office workers and much more. What then?

    As SHTF reported:

    The head of the investment banking firm Macquarie Group went even further, cautioning that we are witnessing nothing short of a terminal economy… one which they very well might not be able to put back together again:

    via the Epoch Times:

    Global central banks with their easy money policies of negative interest rates and quantitative easing are working against a debt deflation scenario, with limited success, according to Shvets. “That was the entire idea of aggressive monetary policies: Stimulate investment and consumption. None of that works, there is no evidence. It can impact asset prices, but they don’t flow into the real economy,” he said.

    […]

    “There is no productivity on a global basis… The private sector will never recover, it will never multiply money again…”

    5. The Bank of International Settlements – the Central Bank of Central Banks – Warns of Chinese Economy Meltdown

    Our financial problems are global in nature, and markets in China are just as vulnerable to collapse. Basically, all the major economies are playing the same dangerous shell game.

    As Michael Snyder reported:

    The pinnacle of the global financial system is warning that conditions are right for a “full-blown banking crisis” in China.  Since the last financial crisis, there has been a credit boom in China that is really unprecedented in world history.

    At this point the total value of all outstanding loans in China has hit a grand total of more than 28 trillion dollars.  That is essentially equivalent to the commercial banking systems of the United States and Japan combined.

    The Bank for International Settlements warned in its quarterly report that China’s “credit to GDP gap” has reached 30.1, the highest to date and in a different league altogether from any other major country tracked by the institution. It is also significantly higher than the scores in East Asia’s speculative boom on 1997 or in the US subprime bubble before the Lehman crisis. (source)

    But of course there is more.

    Put this together with the downright eerie predictions of ranking figures in Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase.

    • Goldman Sachs warns that the “Third Wave” of the financial crisis is upon us, and will be the worst phase of it yet:

    This wave is characterised by rock-bottom commodities prices, stalling growth in China and other emerging-markets economies, and low global inflation, Goldman Sachs analysts led by Peter Oppenheimer said in a big-picture note.

    This triple whammy has its roots in the response to the first two waves of crisis — the banking collapse and European sovereign-debt crisis — and it is all part of the so-called debt supercycle of the past few decades. (source)

    • JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon warned last year that a “volatile crisis” is coming.

    He is preparing his firm to dig deeper into control over the digital grid, and the fees, penalties and surcharges that go along with it.

    As SHTF reported:

    The trigger to the next crisis will not be the same as the trigger to the last one – but there will be another crisis. Triggering events could be geopolitical (the 1973 Middle East crisis), a recession where the Fed rapidly increases interest rates (the 1980-1982 recession), a commodities price collapse (oil in the late 1980s), the commercial real estate crisis (in the early 1990s), the Asian crisis (in 1997), so-called “bubbles” (the 2000 Internet bubble and the 2008 mortgage/housing bubble), etc

    […]

    These “reaction” transactions of the next financial crisis will be intensified by the new financial terrain:

    • automated, rapid via computers, algorithms, big data;

    • “shallow markets” and threatened with “illiquidity”;

    • positioned to charge for deposits and transactions while less likely to lend and returning little or no interest;

    • vulnerable to cyber theft and subject to account freezes;

    • market “depth” limited by gravity of actions of big fish in the pond – big banks, Federal Reserve bond purchases, derivatives moved by enormous players and rapid computerized trades; dark pools of billionaires steering big deals from the shadows;

    What do they know that we don’t, and how bad is it going to be? More importantly, are you prepared to survive such a crisis?

    Read more:

    The Prepper’s Blueprint – A Step By Step Guide To Prepare For Collapse

    Bank of America Warns of Imminent Recession: “Market So Fragile… It’s Downright Scary”

    Terminal Economy: “Private Sector Will NEVER Recover…This Time, Replacing Humans Altogether”

    Goldman Sachs: The Third Wave of the Financial Crisis Is Upon Us

    Billionaire: “We Are Destroying the Middle Class. That’s What Keeps Me Awake at Night.”

    In the Robotic Near-Future, Most “Will Live Off Government-Provided Income”

    This is a Tipping Point: Robots “Cheaper Than Any Human Worker” Means the End of Jobs

    Report: There Is No Sign Of Recession: “Strong Consumer Spending Underscores The Economy’s Underlying Strength”

    7 Jobs That Are Going to Survive the Next Economic Crash

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    Author: Mac Slavo
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    Date: October 14th, 2016
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    1. Watchdog says:

      The U.S. decided to hit Russia with Cyber warfare, and OBOZO is deciding how to hit the Russians in Syria. Once a false flag hits, you can count on the banks shutting down.
      Keep prepping.

      • Acid Etch says:

        http://www.fukushimawatch.com/2016-10-13-radioactive-water-leaks-from-storage-tank-at-fukushima-plant.html

        http://www.fukushimawatch.com/2016-10-04-a-floating-nuclear-power-plant-off-singapore.html

        ITS ALL CONTAINED!!!!!!!! CONTAINED!!!!!!! NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT

        SO MUCH FOR GETTING SEX FROM JAPANESE PEOPLE

        I DONT WANT A GLOW-IN-THE-DARK-DICK

        • I’m careful with my stockpile of tuna since I haven’t bought any since Fukushima event. I go to chicken when wanting sandwich salad.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          So Acid, Tell us about your hike up the biggest Mountain in North America. You said you were doing this solo. How did it go, how far did you get, and how was the altitude and what height? I’ve been up to about 13500 Ft snow skiing, and can feel it, thin air. Did you pack your water platypuses? How’d that work and were you hiking in snow? How did you camp at night? Any threats, gear failures, what worked great, etc. Did you have walking sticks? Thanks for sharing..

          ~WWTI…

          • durangokidd says:

            Solo? No one with half a brain climbs or hikes a mountain like that alone. RULE NO 1 in the wilderness: Buddy Up.

            Acid had always struck me as an intelligent guy, rants aside. 🙂

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        If I can bring to everybody’s attention. This is almost the 5 year anniversary of SHTFPlan’s Selco’s Story/ Article With Question and Answers form his experience in Bosnia war torn country back in the 1990’s, And what it was like to live in a War zone with snipers, and scavenging for food, etc. This is a must read. The NUMBER ONE Prepping Tool was Weapons, Firearms, the More the better and lots of ammo. Guess what number #2 Was, Alcohol for barter. There were a few notables posting back the, Durrango Kid Posted, Kevin2 was there. No clock puncher MIA as usual, But lots of great posts after the article in comment section.

        A Must Read for everyone as we may be entering into a War Zone, and how to prep for that.

        A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In the Middle of A War Zone
        Chris Kitze
        October 25th, 2011
        Before It’s News

        Comments (245)
        Read by 71,803 people

        ht tp://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/a-survival-q-a-living-through-shtf-in-the-middle-of-a-war-zone_10252011

        Good Job Mac!!

        ~WWTI…

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Take the space out between the http

          ~WWTI…

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Another Great Prepper Item SELCO said to stock up heavy on was Lighters. Lots of lighters. I have mentioned you can get 50 lighters for $10 on Amazon many times here over the years. I bought 400 lighters $80, and I can say within a year at my BOL living 100% off their Grid, I have gone through about 25-30 lighters in regular use. A great investment, fire making tool and for barter in SHTF Situations. Rock on!!! I also gave one kid here 40 lighters for helping me move a bunch of things. It was a ice Barter. He loved it. win-win

          ~WWTI…

          • PO'd Patriot says:

            They say there’s no cheating when you need to make a fire. Meaning…. Bic lighters are gtg over other methods of fire making when you’re cold, wet, and hungry. Not withstanding you should learn at the minimum two to three other methods for fire making. FYIAE.

        • eppe says:

          Sucking up to Mac now???

          You are lost, deplorable, and a loser in life…

          Same thing you giged me for.

          Die off pos…

    2. Anonymous says:

      Looking forward for the bankster open season. Just need to select the right caliber since I don’t want a humane death for them.

      • durangokidd says:

        And then, someone here, more than a month ago, suggested that the crash could occur between October 7th to 17th. Five days left.

        It may not. It may stumble along, but considering the content of this article and the latest predictions of the bank analysts as indicated …..

        that was a damn good call, even if I say so myself. Who was that masked man? 🙂

        • durangokidd says:

          “In recent weeks, terminal operators in the California ports of Long Beach and Oakland are not taking back empty containers. Many in the industry doubt Hanjin will pay storage costs, which has led to a growing backlog of empty containers and the trailers they sit on. The containers are stranded. Thousands of Hanjin containers are on trailers kept out of circulation.” – Jim Willie

          I observed many, many, many months ago, that the collapse in global trade would present a windfall of shipping containers for enterprising preppers looking to build a bug out shelter. That moment has arrived.

          Yes, of course. Its in the archives. 🙂

          • eppe says:

            DK, you have been a truth for years…

            A few old timers have made a difference in the prepping, investment, and living ideas…

            Bless all here…

          • WhoWTFKnows... says:

            DK, There has been a glut in idle shipping containers for years now up to 5 years. I was looking into that about 3 years ago and pricing them. $2500 for 40 Ft. And decided it would just be a rusty leaky, hot box to fry in. And under ground they cave in with load of moisture. Not the best prepping device by far. If you check the archives this has been discussed many times. Not too many benefits. For the cost of actually making them livable you are spending more by trying to refurbish the Hot Steel Box making it livable. Lots of Ytube vids on that as well.

            ~WWTI… Listen to the real preppers here for the scoop and best advice.

            • WhoWTFKnows... says:

              Also a pee shooter .22 rifle slug will go right through the thin skin of a shipping container. So its not even material you can take cover behind.

              ~WWTI…

              • eppe says:

                See Falcon, a liar all the way around…

              • durangokidd says:

                You might be right about that I don’t know. They are made of steel, and thicker than an automobile, I believe. Would you duck behind a car in a shoot out ???

                I think so. 🙂

                The value of a shipping container as a bug out shelter would be the setup of the shell. Obviously interior and exterior modifications would be necessary to waterproof the containers whether they are above or below ground.

                Above ground, concrete blocks filled with sand would be a good insulator as well as adding some protection beyond just sealing and waterproofing.

                Frankly, I see few, if any, firefights where I am located except in the worse possible Mad Max scenario; and I am not expecting that this time around. 🙂

                • dave in idaho says:

                  some shipping containers are made of corten steel, which makes them corrosion resistant. mine will stop a 9mm. its easy to weld room divider walls on the inside that also reinforce the strength. 4 interior walls should make it pretty strong for a few feet below grade. You can also line the inside with styrofoam insulation to keep stable temperatures above ground.. A exhaust fan, windows and doors can be easily installed.

                • anonymous5 says:

                  You might duck behind a car in a shootout, but you would do well to make sure you get behind the engine block or if you can’t do that, get behind a wheel. Your best spot will be behind the engine block AND a wheel, since your adversary can simply shoot underneath the vehicle and hit you if you place yourself anywhere else.

                  A car is better than nothing for cover, but a round with sufficient velocity will go right through the body panels, all the way through the vehicle.

          • Steve in Ramona says:

            Just got back today 8-15 from a cruise leaving and returning from San Pedro. DK is right. THOUSANDS of containers are sitting in San Pedro. Been on a number of cruises and this is by far the most containers I have ever seen there. Its like they are stacking them higher as it seems they dont have much more flat area to store them.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Yeah DK, everybody knows the same thing happened back in 2008. I’m sure I said the same thing many times here.. Not exactly brain surgery. Everybody knows the Feds are trying like heck to paint lipstick on this pig by holding interest rates down, until the NOV 8th Selection, where the Hildabeast gets in. You know trying to make every thing rosey to pump up her chances. 75% know its FUBAR!!

          Tell us what we don’t know, yet.

          ~WWTI…

        • Zeuss says:

          Today is the 15th

      • Menzoberranzan says:

        A razor hunting arrow some will receive.

      • Lost In The C.R.C. says:

        Go with the slingshot/wrist-rocket…start by shooting them in the ankles, and work up from there…

    3. Falcon says:

      Id like to say thanks to everyone in the SHTF community. I have learned so much from all of you. I feel like I know you personally.
      Thanks

      • Babycatcher55 says:

        The feeling is mutual. Keep stacking. 🙂

      • eppe says:

        Falcon, great to see honesty in your post.
        Be careful whom one listens and acts upon in your prepping.
        And keep posting, lots of BS gets thrown around here, as you will see whom responds to this post.
        Be well sir and all…

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Falcon.. Good for you. Yes many smart people post a lot of great info here, and this helps everyone act on prepping. Be aware of a few other space waster wannabe prepper imposters just BS, post immature jokes, degrade women and never post anything worthy. Just Know who walks the walk, and who just talks folksy to befriend you then con you. And never give them any of your personal info, they will rat on you. Remember OPSEC.

        Keep posting.. ~WWTI…

        • eppe says:

          Vaffanculo is Itialian for:
          Fuck off or fuck you.

          Catch my drift?
          Chola.

        • Ketchupondemand says:

          WWTI, “degrade women”.?..seriously, you are the poster boy for that charge.

          While you do post some valuable things you also post worthless information sometimes. See “Society near the Breaking Point” regarding your rain barrel storage “system”.
          And the free solar energy baloney. Meh..

          • WhoWTFKnows... says:

            Ketchupondemand, I am doing it right now off the grid. Been on 100% Solar for 20 months. Meh up yours. Are you another armchair prepper? You post here so you think you are a prepper? Cock puncher seems to think so. And he still has no weapons to protect his family. Hilarious. Thx for playing!!

            ~WWTI…

            • eppe says:

              Here we go again with the no weapons shit.
              You must be a NSA troll, or a govt shit to ask about weapons and ammo.

              Get a life, not a wife, you fucked that up twice already…

              You are a blight to this site…

              • eppe says:

                And wwti wonders why readers and posters have dropped off?

                You are the reason…

                • eppe says:

                  Naw, I stand corrected, W does not give a shit about the integrity of this site, some of us do.

                  Hence his posts let on to his mindset.
                  And that is messed up…

                  • LI Bizzaro says:

                    Integrity? I have to say WWTI has given way better prepped tips, economic info, and survival information in one thread then you have ever given. All I know throughout the years about information you have given here is, you drive a minivan, you live in Georgia, your daughter won the county beauty fair, you work for the cable company and you drink heavily on the weekends.

                    As for me being WWTI, I for one think Trump is a loudmouth shill, who jumped off the wagon once his ego kicked in. I think the two man candidates are both sucking off the tit of the the establishment except one let his ego override his path.

                    If you ain’t Cav you ain’t shit

                  • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                    Now that’s funny Li B. People here see what’s up who contributes and who Cyber Squats. Anywho. I will give Trump a chance, he is one big bad ass, for taking on the establishment single handedly including the Media. He’s got balls, That’s good enough for me. Men and women have been chasing each other for millions of years.

                    I asked a woman at work one time 25 yrs ago, what she considered Sexual Harassment? Her response was, “well it depends who it is.” So there you go.

                    ~WWTI… If this Florida Amendment #1 passes with a Yes Vote, they will eliminate regulatory utility taxes on Solar systems here in FL. I have my Solar Biz License, domain name, all ready to go. I will be selling full solar systems like the one I use for 100% off the grid for electric. My neighbor will build and put the frames together. And I will go sell them. Hire and contract with an electrician to do final hookups and certify it. I’m also putting together some financing and leasing. There are opportunities every where. Or you can be a clock puncher at a zippo cable company selling Lie TV to the ignorant Democrats. lol

                    ~WWTI…

                  • Zeuss says:

                    Hmmm I thought Mac and WWTI must be one and the same

                  • eppe says:

                    Li, excuse me for thinking you were wwti.
                    My apoigies.
                    Wwti has been a prick since day one…

                  • eppe says:

                    Zuess, how would know what I have posted over the years, but a cyberbully with no life???
                    He has threaten to punch my teeth out.

                    Jump his shit posters..

                • eppe says:

                  Wwti, do really think posting here makes you invisible???

                  What a fuckwad…

              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                When I asked eppe about his weapons he responded with “well I’ve got the BOL and they have the Weapons.” Like WTF. Its your quote. Its all in the archives.. You have no weapons.. A pee shooter maybe for your little girls. Then come to find out he has no BOL either. So that makes him a liar. Know who the people here who get caught in their bigger than life lies.

                ~WWTI… You are Busted Zit Face.

                • eppe says:

                  Wrong as usual, wwti.
                  You are a known piece of shit slanderous liar who has no life.
                  You personally have made this site deplorable…
                  But without a soul, you are gonna die and fry in hell.
                  Vaffanculo…

            • Ketchupondemand says:

              No armchair prepper here. Have more food growing than you ever will. Solar power for water pumping, lights, fans, electric gate, washer/dryer. Oh, but according to you, it’s “free.” Right.
              Attack the messenger and ignore the issue. Here’s what I wrote that you won’t touch:

              Ketchupondemand says:
              Comment ID: 3621247
              October 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm

              Wrong again, man.
              “A simple Rain Catchment with storage barrels will provide all the water you need.” -WWTI
              All the water you need?
              You don’t need much then do you? One shower a month?
              I have 3 “barrels” of rain water.
              One is 800 gallons, the other 2 are 650 gallons, each.
              This total will last but maybe halfway through the dry season for 2 people. (And we get as much or more rain than you in Fla.)
              Try growing any crops or garden with anything less than several thousand gallons, like 8-10, and you will fail.
              Kinda like your “free energy” BS.
              You never answered my 3 call outs on that.
              Cliff notes for all: solar energy ISN’T FREE.
              It isn’t even cheap.

              • eppe says:

                Ketchup, you are so correct.
                Ever wonder how many posters have multiple monikers?
                Wwti has had quite a few, but we all know that.
                Yes, solar is expensive, if one is not heating or cooling with it, makes sense.

                Since W came here, the site has degraded…

              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                eppe has No solar either, or solar experience to ignore the dolts rants.

                Katchup, I have no idea what your water usage is. I guess if you are growing a garden and taking long shower and are wasteful go for an 800 Gal container. My uses are different, low footprint, Solo off the grid and no garden yet.

                The biggest waste of water is about a Gallon to rinse the dishes after I wash them with hot water from a kettle. You don’t need to fill up an entire sink of hot water to do dishes.

                I have several tubs, dirty dishes. I drip dish soap over them then pour hot water over them, then hand wash one dish at a time. I may use maybe a quart of hot water to heat the dishes up and sponge to wash them.

                Maybe you and your wife are water hogs. Try taking a shower with a bottle of water. Take the cap off, Put your thump over the end and let the water trickle out to get your body wet. then soap up wash and rinse off. I can take a shower with one 16 Oz, bottle of water if I need to. I sometimes go through 3 bottles cause it feels good. And it is not good to take showers every day.

                So to each his own. If I put in a garden here I can siphon off the fresh water lake I own, with a 2 inch pipe and swimming pool pump. A guy across the lake does that and has a lot of gardens growing. I’ll even run the pump off of solar if needed.. I am still working on infrastructure here right now, and no time this year for any garden. Maybe next year, but I would have a water source first in place to handle it.

                ~WWTI…

      • LI Bizzaro says:

        falcon,
        I can say the same learning everyday, some are a wealth of knowledge. Some guys actually bugged out already, some have been saying they are going to bug out in two weeks for the last 4 years. The ones who bugged out have taught me various things from their successes and gains. The ones who haven’t, have taught me no matter how tough you are someone can still rob your house.

        No posts last night, Some liquor salesmen in Georgia was very upset last night….

        • eppe says:

          Wwti, we all know that is you.
          Get a life…

          • LI Bizzaro says:

            Not WWTI, some others who have been reading this site for years actually see through the bullshit.

            If you ain’t cav, you ain’t shit!

            • WhoWTFKnows... says:

              Spot on LI B. He should be plenty liquored up by now. And at 3am he jumps on his sheep herder wife, who is in a deep sleepy coma, for 10 second of great sex.

              Hell yeah, Got to have Cav.

              ~WWTI…

              • eppe says:

                Pretty ssd to see you wwti make a second moniker to prove yourself..

                • Braveheart1776 says:

                  Sounds like we have WW3 going on right here between Eppe and a certain prick. don’t need the hildebeast to get any war started.

                • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                  You are such a dope. I only use one moniker, and I don’t have to pretend like you did with Sally Jones and Whoville to support your baseless claims. You are so busted dopey zit face.

                  Hey Brave, You still bragging about your 3 new motor mounts? You had a whole lot of shaking going on there for a while eh? Yes 10 months of hey everybody I’m going to my BOL next month, or in October. Then as October blows, by the dope big mouth clams up about going to the BOL, which is just his Cuz’s back yard where he parks his 2000 odyssey camper wagon next to shed where all the fish crackers are. Then will have No job,, and then no SHTF happens, then next year we will hear Hey everybody moving back to TN for my Door shaker job. lol People just drift through life with no aim. And some don’t even have any weapons to aim. LMFAO.

                  ~WWTI…

    4. Kevin2 says:

      Directly and indirectly the consequences of negative economic dynamics lead to war. Nations squeezed for income do things or don’t do things, make deals and alliances that under better conditions, wouldn’t and shouldn’t. Certainly the great depression, felt worldwide, was a catalyst for WWII. Between the hubris of TPTB quest for global control coupled with collapsing oil prices effecting both the middle east producers and Russia is a recipe for war. MIC in the wings, cheerleading the need for its products, adds another pro war position. Certainly, they believe that ever increasing military actions can be contained up until the “Oh Shit” moment. We powerless spectators are nothing more than walking talking future casualties.

      • Plan twice, prep once says:

        I listened to a debate on Bloomberg radio about how the FED absolutely must increase interest rates next year, several times. Notice they wouldn’t do it while Obama is in the White House.

        There’s your trigger, even the continued vocal threat of increasing interest rates could trigger a crash.

        Big banks took lots of QE money and invested it in the markets, if banks think the jig is up they will need to convert that back to cash to pay it back. They can’t afford to lose that money, it’s all borrowed. The sell off will be bloody.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          This is more Fear Mongering by the Too Big To Fail Bankster Thieves. Let them all fail, cut them down to size. They were bailed out in 2008 and did they learm their lesson? Hell no. They went back to busuness as usual. No bankers went to Jail. They lavished themselves with bonuses.

          This time around. Too bad so sad go get f@cked. Your financial problems are not my problems. Just don’t expose your finances to their collapse.

          Corporations did the same thing. Cheap money to buy back thrir own stock to prop up their stock price. Their productivity sucks and their profits suck too. Its all phony capitalism by theft and smoke n mirrors. Lets see the blood in the streets. Let them all die. That will be the best medicine out there. Teach them to not make stupid over leveraged decisions. Banks are predators and deserve death with a thousand cuts.

          -WWTI… BANK COLLAPSE MEANS DEATH TO THE ROTHCHILDS NWO. YEA!!! Yippi!!!

          • WaPo says:

            Stealth ‘EMP’ Exec Order passed by Obama on Oct 13 for “space weather” aka false flag cyber attack to shut down banks?

            • grandee says:

              WaPo–thanks for posting this. Very good info.

              Preppers–go to .gov site and print yourself a copy. Only 4 sheets of paper/two sided.

              https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/10/13/executive-order-coordinating-efforts-prepare-nation-space-weather-events

              thanks again WaPo

            • Cuz we them old boys raised on shotguns; and we’ve always been here in them thar mountains. We are a good part of America’s best chance, meaning: more patriots who will not sit and listen to bullshit about The Constitution is “no more” …etc.

              These bastards want us dead. Fine. We want and will see to their deaths in short order. I’m not going to argue that there IS a “window of opportunity” for them coming right up. Given past history of the last 120-days things will get sporty with no warning …I should think. (Why bother to warn the masses of anything impending)? *Only if it were to serve a purpose for THEM would we be given prior notice, even if a timed-false-flag-event-unfolds, it still boils down to disarming Americans (that much is NATO’s biggest concern and demand). Hillary has promised anti-gun “ignorance-rampant” people the first thing she’ll do is destroy The Second Amendment. (Why not, since it is now clear that no part of “The Law” has any teeth, being that an obvious CONVICT can run for (and be behind zillions of schemes regarding cheating to ensure victory)? If she can, why not everyone do as they damn well please with no worry of law and order?

              Did y’all catch the article in Fox News about 3% of Americans owning ALL the guns, some of us over 170 of them! (And for us to have all that ammo is “concerning”). They’re right. In the wrong circumstances I’d be dangerous as a rattle-snake.

              Think I’ll make some more rounds up instead of being lazy…

              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                Good Job Bud, Keep stacking and packing.

                The term, Well Regulated Militia. The definition of “Well Regulated” in the 1770 Dictionaries, meant that “Your weapons, similar to the Military, were well maintained and in good working order.”

                As Selco Stated very Clearly, Weapons were the number one Prepping item on his list in his war zone in Bosnia. Without security you got nothing he said. He traded a car batter for a couple of Guns. They wanted the battery to run a radio, and he wanted the guns so they bartered. And lots and lots of Ammo.

                ~WWTI… You are right on track.

          • Kevin2 says:

            “Just don’t expose your finances to their collapse.”

            I don’t know how one can successfully do that. You can go to cash with any investments but its in their bank. One can say I withdrew my money. Ok did you have $800,000 and did you take it in $50s or $100s? If you bought land don’t pay the taxes on it and see how long you continue to own it.

            “Your financial problems are not my problems.”

            One only wishes but in reality their problem becomes your problem. Have a pension? Well oops its gone; their problem became your problem. Chrysler went bankrupt. My wife was injured, back broken, two disks crushed. Her workmen compensation that you pay for went bankrupt. Chrysler was self insured and the State did not back it up. You pay the medical bills. Instant 1920.

            The Rothschild’s ain’t going nowhere

            • Executioner says:

              The Rothschild’s ARE going somewhere.
              BACKWARDS in the evolution chain, that is.
              Once their Earthly lives are over, there will be regressed to amoebas for a few centuries.
              Perhaps, in a few thousand years, they might progress up the chain, to say……slugs.
              If I had my way, they would be kept as bacteria inside an old soup can.

            • WhoWTFKnows... says:

              Kevin2 – Yes, “Just don’t expose your finances to their collapse.”

              That means don’t put any of your money in any Bank, Rather choose a Credit Union to pay bills out of. Or stuff your cash in your mattress. Just ask any old folks about the 1929 crash how that works. Keeping your money in a Bank exposes you to Bail-ins.

              Get out of Wallstreet stock market and take all your Fake IOU fiat dollars and exchange them for Gold and Silver right now while it is dirt cheap.

              Hate to tell you Pensions are F*cked, Underfunded and not a secure retirement plan anymore. Rather invest in our own self-sustained debt free homestead which you can enjoy on the cheap and into retirement.

              Yes it is good to reduce your exposure to bank collapses. People are doing it all over right now. I am one who speaks as to what I am doing. Most of my Liquidity is in PM’s. Its been money for thousands of years. And learn to barter for goods and services. I am getting my neighbors on board with that right now.. Set this up now. Some trade eggs for lawn mowing and trimming right now. One guy paints cars in barter for car repairs. Get off their Grid ASAP.

              ~WWTI… I bet your dentist will take a few silver rounds for some dental work. He won’t have to claim it on taxes as income, and its some jingle for him.

              Rothchilds are on the ropes, their banks are collapsing and the world is awaken about their scams.

              • Akeel says:

                People have become to dependent on Capitalism and have accepted the way the world is ran by paper currency and have based their lives off this form of trade. They have not organized as communities and pulled their resources together and bought land and supplied it with cattle and crops like the Amish have done but instead opted for Work Unions” to suppourt them in times of distress not knowing that Unions are a shame and only benefit the higher up. Communities are so separated and when Stuff Hit The Fan they will run to ravish stores and loot and that is the green light for Marshall Law giving those who want such their opportunity to bring in the New World Order therefore they would have played into their hands giving them more control of their lives. It may be too late for many but for some who have the understanding to Prepare, they should looking at the rumors and speeches of these banksters.

              • Kevin2 says:

                Unfortunately getting your money isn’t as easy as one thinks as 401k is off limits until conventionally retired. I agree with the premise of your advice but its mechanics, the how, is not always doable.

                “Rothchilds are on the ropes, their banks are collapsing and the world is awaken about their scams.’

                I so wish that was true. They bought gold, they bought governments with army’s and 90+% of the people don’t know who they are other than bankers and furthermore they don’t care.

                • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                  Anybody can cash out a 401K. Take the 10% Tax hit, who cares,…. you may loose 50 to 60% with is all comes crashing down in a month and take a decade to get back to even. I am self employed, so I am not a slave to any company or corporation, or to any wall street firm holding my wealth. Like I said, make some good decisions and control your finances by being off their grid and reduced exposure to banking collapse.

                  Good Luck!! Also if I had 800K right now I would put 600K into Physical PM’s Gold most likely. That’s be about 1 and 1/4 400 Oz Gold Bars right now. You could stuff that in a suitcase. Or you can leave it in the bank? bwhahahahahahahaaaa

                  ~WWTI…

                  • Kevin2 says:

                    You can cash out your IRA. You have to officially retire to get to your 401K or get laid off from the employer. If your still “On The Books” the 401K is mainly unreachable. You can transfer SOME of your 401k to an IRA, YOUR CONTRIBUTION and from there get your hands on it. I have done as much financial defense in depth as is possible under the circumstances.

                    In all probability Offense Stocks should rise like a rocket (no pun intended) given the geo-political realities.

                  • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                    Well then within your 401K Fund get out of Equities and Bonds as both will collapse and default. See a financial advisor to see where you can safely park your contributions within your 401K to reduce exposure through the end of the year. Once the market crashes, you can move back into equities at half price. Take a look at your options. You have about a week to get this task completed. Implosion can happen at any time. 2008 Crash started happening in Oct Nov 2008.

                    ~WWTI…

            • laeagle says:

              Kevin,

              I agree with you. It is not so easy to get the money out. Most people have their money in retirement funds of some sort and it is all tangled up with obligations to pay taxes to the government in varying amounts in the form of income tax, devidend tax, etc. The more you withdraw, the higher the tax rate. There is a lot to be said about, ‘better something than nothing’, but you don’t want to be a fool and blow it all either. I have yet to find a good way to bail out and ‘go Galt’! I thought all this was going to happen back in 2008 and withdrew funds from the sock market and never got back in! My loss, a lot too! I hate to say it but all of us are in some way or another vested in the system.

              When I was young we use to climb high into a tree and ride the tree down as someone was chopping it down below. I am afraid the trees I am climbing now are a lot bigger and taller than the ones we use to ride down. Sometimes the trees would flip and would leave you hanging on for dear life and we would get pinned down, needing help getting extricated. We dit it for fun back then, and boy did we have fun! We didn’t have roller-coasters.

              I appreciate you comments and insights.

              Louisiana Eagle

        • buttcrackofdoom says:

          DEBT MAN WALKIN’!
          shoulda listened to Lynyrd Skynyrd all those YEARS ago, americans…whocouldaknowed?…..them….and ME,…and genius, braveheart…..come to think of it, there’s a LOT of smart people here…anyways

          Whiskey bottles, and brand new cars
          Oak tree you’re in my way
          There’s too much coke and too much smoke
          Look what’s going on inside you

          Ooooh that smell
          Can’t you smell that smell
          Ooooh that smell
          The smell of DEBT surrounds you

          One little problem that confronts you
          Got a monkey on your back
          Just one more fix, Lord might do the trick
          One hell of a price for you to get your kicks

          Ooooh that smell
          Can’t you smell that smell
          Ooooh that smell
          The smell of DEBT surrounds you

          • durangokidd says:

            All of my debt is NON-RECOURSE DEBT. Know the difference. 🙂

            • grandee says:

              What is a ‘Non-Recourse Debt’

              A nonrecourse debt is a type of loan secured by collateral, which is usually property. If the borrower defaults, the issuer can seize the collateral but cannot seek out the borrower for any further compensation, even if the collateral does not cover the full value of the defaulted amount.

            • buttcrackofdoom says:

              since i have no debt, it makes ZERO difference to ME, but we appreciate the heads-up, of coarse!

            • WhoWTFKnows... says:

              Non-Recourse Debt. Like when an EMP hits, and you stop making your car payments cause the truck is fried, and which you are still upside down in equity, and you call and tell the Loan Company to just come get that POS truck off your property cause its blocking the driveway. lol Yeah, Got it.

              ~WWTI…

              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                First collect the Insurance money on the EMP Damaged truck and cash the check, then call the Loan Co to cum and git it.

                ~WWTI..

                • LaManiac says:

                  WWTI,Truck hit with EMP,ok I’m with you so far.
                  This is where you lose me,call the loan company,get ck from insurance co. ,cash check.Call someone,what yell from the mountain top!Must be your day to drink!LMFAO!
                  You did say EMP!
                  Maniac –Out

    5. anon says:

      How many warnings have we been told. How many more to come. A collective shit sandwich is about to happen and most people do not have a clue.

      Prep tip.

      I have a couple of those Stanley Power packs that have a 12vdc insert, air compressor and can jump a low battery. Decided to buy two 140w plug in inverters to get 120 vac. Run a small fan, light or C.B. radio for awhile. Just saying multi purpose tool.

      The Countdown Continues. ;0)

      • Kevin2 says:

        anon

        “most people do not have a clue”

        Ignorance can be fixed with knowledge. Unfortunately its not the lack of knowledge but the lack of desire for knowledge is the problem. They don’t know, don’t care and don’t care to know. They sub contract out thinking. These masses will be paralyzed as they have no base of facts, stored in memory, to drawl upon to make any sense of affairs around them. They are in effect sheep that the unscrupulous see, harness, manipulate and use. Throughout history they have been a fertile ground for tyrants to exploit.

        • Jacknife says:

          Kevin, you are spot on. One characterization I’ve always taken issue with is “sheep” Sheep are very mild, timid and seemingly pleasant followers. Cut off the ebt and video games, the kardashians and sports. Let’s see what these “sheep” do
          Stay quiet Be smart

          • anon says:

            Jacknife

            Wonder how the Christmas sales will be affected with all in the News.

          • Kevin2 says:

            Jacknife

            The sheep will follow anyone that has the most plausible promise to make things better. As Albert Einstein said, “An empty stomach is not a good political barometer”. Tyrants in history have ceased this opportunity and recruited them. Communists, Fascists, self described Nobility or garden variety dictators with democratic sounding titles, have went from soapbox obscurity to throne by telling the people what they want to hear.

            I have an unwavering stedfast core belief, “I Don’t”.

        • buttcrackofdoom says:

          ignorance IS bliss, afterall.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          “most people do not have a clue”

          I like to call those people Hillary supporting Democrats. You can draw them in with a free punch bowl.

          ~WWTI…

        • Equorial says:

          And, of course, the greater number of those you are speaking of are this nations middle-class. Highly trained in how to do specific things that no longer exist, in any form, anywhere.

          I still believe we’ve time to teach and train those who are interested in the ways of survival and will find each other out in the aftermath …if indeed there ever comes one.

          We’ve been on the edges and precipices of wars and rumors of wars for thousands of years. Some giving all they own to include their lives …in total vain. What stands before us today isn’t anything that hasn’t been there in one way or another more times than we’d care to know about (like how about asteroid ‘near-misses’ we never heard about)? As of late there are many backyard astronomers who are saying it is as if our Solar System has “run into a large field of rocks” all moving at different trajectories and speeds. What a nightmare in itself…

          The only thing about this article that I find troublesome is that there would be no need to even bother building a device when the same could be accomplished silently via h**k*ng stuff, and there are no shortages of countries that already seem to have an Entry Key. (Courtesy of Hitlery). Wrong?

          • anon says:

            Equorial

            “I still believe we’ve time to teach and train those who are interested in the ways of survival and will find each other out in the aftermath …if indeed there ever comes one.”

            I don’t know about that. Most will have to learn on the fly. I don’t have the patience to deal with tenderfeet and teach survival, after the accumulation of insults over the years. Worst that can happen is when someone asks me for help and then tells me what he wants or how to do it. Or the Newbie gets some dirt under his belt and then thinks he knows it all.

            That Will Never Happen.

            Like you said, if it happens.

    6. PO'd Patriot says:

      This friggen shit show has been running on empty since ’08 and still limps along. Lord knows this will be the case for another 10 years or more. I damn sure ain’t gonna fret or lose any sleep over it.

    7. Kevin2 says:

      “Triggering events could be geopolitical (the 1973 Middle East crisis)”

      US / Russian relations have in effect honed the trigger release to about 1.5 psi. Sneeze and the sear disengages.

    8. Archivist says:

      The following was posted about 90 minutes ago:

      “The Obama administration is contemplating an unprecedented cyber covert action against Russia in retaliation for alleged Russian interference in the American presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.”

      ht tp://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/cia-prepping-possible-cyber-strike-against-russia-n666636

      I guess I’ll go buy some more plastic and duct tape tomorrow.

      At least the water is no longer standing in my back yard.

    9. logicrazy says:

      Think Japan on steroids. Think fall of the Roman Empire. Then add War to cover the asses of those in power. They have to blame something other than failed policy. War is the go to guy…

    10. WhereEaglesDare says:

      I’ve been trying to find information on the Duetsche bank, for the past two days……nothing!

    11. WhereEaglesDare says:

      I’ve been trying to find information on the Duetsche bank, for the past two days……nothing!

    12. WhoWTFKnows... says:

      Oh no doubt they will all mask their bank failures with some phony war scheme. War is Fraud, a false flag for incompetence coverup to retrain power and control. Dont buy into that phony BS. 60% of the Pentagons PR budget goes to selling War to the American sheep. Most buy into it.

      I don’t, and Russia is NOT our enemy. Its a coverup for decades of failed US Foreign policy blunders one after another.

      -WWTI…

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Let me correct this statement. 60% of the Pentagons $1.2 Billion Dollar Annual PR budget, (Public Relations Budget) goes to selling War to the American sheep. Most buy into it.

        That’s a lot of money going to the TV networks who are hellbent on destroying and disgracing America. How about a Billion Dollars to replace some bridges here in America?

        ~WWTI…

    13. TEST says:

      Hilary… the very best candidate Goldmun Suchs money can buy!

    14. Nailbanger says:

      So if you dont have any money anyway and the economy crashes, does it really even matter?

      • Old Guy says:

        After ive paid my electric and phone bills and paid my property taxes. I have about $125 left in the checking account. Have to wait until the third Wednesday for my Ponzi check! I remember stories about during the depression folks scrimping and saving all year to be able to pay the property taxes. So I suppose if your a homeless person and the economy crashes it doesn’t even really matter. If you own property and enjoy modern conveniences like electricity and hot water driving a vehicle ect. It matters.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Old Guy, It does not matter as much if you have no debt and all your property and vehicles are paid off. Even with a meager income.

          That’s what I suggest. Depends on your situation. If you are upside down on your house mortgage, live there until they kick you out, which could be years with millions of defaults at the same time. Hell, a real hero would zero out all debts and we start over, what you have is what you have. Iceland did that and erased lots of mortgage debt. And threw the bankers in Prison.

          ~WWTI…

    15. Asshat says:

      Douche bank is going down. Glad it’s Germany’s problem.

    16. Old Guy says:

      Ive never seen more stupid people. This woman I know a few years ago was really gushing about how wonderful the Obama care was gonna be. I asked her reciently how the Obama care was working out for her? She stated it would have been great but the Republicans ruined it. But when Hillary becomes president she will fix everything. and there are plenty of sheeple just like her. Im smart enough to know that there isn’t any viable political or ballot box solution. Trump will not make America great again. I know its over Just like Rome the USA is crumbling and for the same exact reasons that Rome fell.

      • Equorial says:

        Perhaps, but I say we have better AR’s so let’s get on with it already…

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Hell I got $3K into my Battle Rifle. Sig Sauer 5.56 Swat folding stock, a grand into EOtech holographic with night vision sights. And today, I was walking around the BOL with the AR pistol on a shoulder strap. Bad Bad weapon with 60 Round Surefire Mags filled with Green Tips. Got your Battle Belt together? Hydration pack you can sling on, well Start training, it could be show time soon.. Work all the kinks out now in practice.

          ~WWTI… BatMan has his Battle Belt all ready to go one clip and its on. More Mags, flashlight, knife, pistol ammo mags, and 12G shot gun shells various species. lol

          ~WWTI… You got Cav?

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Thanks OG it couldn’t have been explained any better with more words.

    17. Since things are fixed to get real bad, here’s some advice that might help. When sleeping four in a double bed: you won’t all fit across, but if you put two at the opposite end, it works out much better.

      Just a heads up, if you know what I mean.

      __?

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Many will be happy to just have a cardboard box to shelter in. Where is Hcks anyway? His scientist friend says cardboard boxes are not EMP proof unless you line them with tinfoil. lol

        ~WWTI…

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        B from CA. I slept in a 2 man tent, with me and 2 chicks before. No complaints. Its do-able.. lol I now just refer to that tent as a 1 man 2 women tent.

        ~WWTI… Hey I have this great Hammock sleeping shelter all camoed out, and light weight. Has anybody slept in hammocks before and what did you think? I have the inflatable bottom pad etc, all weather. I just worry about dead falls here, and will look for 2 palm trees to string it up to.

        • LaManiac says:

          Wwti ,had a jungle hammock years ago,worked well.Have to figure out how tight to string it up to suit your sleeping style.It does keep out of the mud.The one I had was netted with flaps for rain.
          Be well!
          Maniac –out

    18. John WV says:

      The “Banksters” know what is coming, because they are the ones creating the problem.
      They are trying to cover their butts, “we warned everyone this would happen, but they wouldn’t listen to us”.
      When the economy collapses just remember who the real enemy is!
      1. The BIS (Bank Of International Settlement).
      2. All Central Banks.
      3. Criminal Politicians that let this all happen.

    19. HardWorker says:

      Hi,I’ve been lurking on this website for a few years now. I find mnay of you commenters to be very honest and morallly updstanding people as far as the nets tell us anyway.
      My point is that I see so much corruption and crime going on in both America and Canada( where I live) that it makes me so very sad that people have not been able to identify the REAL CRIMIINALS behind all of this.

      Please remember that in most western countries (America, Canada, Europe) we have a DEBT-Based currency owed to a European Jewish family.

      This must stop if HUMANITY is ever to be free.
      The owners of the private FEDERAL RESERVE have access to free money, money which all of us work very hard all of our lives. But these people can print money , any amount , for free.

      Please understand what corruption this causes in a society.
      Rothschilds could now be worth HALF of ALL THE ASSETS IN THE WORLD. Actually they own the DEBTS so the debt can be more than all of the assets of the world.

      We must recapture what they have stolen since 1697.
      If we do not, we will NEVER BE FREE.

      NEVER.

      • Hard worker:

        I hope everyone reads your post three times.

        Let it sink in. This person has identified the source of the infection. The toxin behind the Cancer.

        Truth tellers are the target of the criminals because when the truth becomes apparent to all, these generational thieves and robbers will have to face their inevitable outcome, the end of centuries of life as the secret emperors, the architects of war, the enslavers of mankind thru compound interest on loans, through a totally owned and controlled worldwide banking monopoly that turns every dollar into debt.

        __

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        HW, Agree, I been saying that here for 3+ years now.. Lots of people get it. First thing is to STOP Feeding the BEAST. What ever ways they make money, boycott.

        Stop doing Hollywood BS, cable TV, NFL, NBA, Sports channels, No Kelvin Klein, and all the rest of their BS dumbed down Marketing manipulations. Boycotts all MSM Radio, and newspapers. Let the banks crash and create a new currency free of the Fed.

        Lots of great ideas, to encourage other to stop feeding the beast. Get off the Grid and debt free, is good for you bad for them.

        ~WWTI…

    20. Brian says:

      Saying that collapse is imminent never seems to work. It is prophesying the timing what is difficult. On the Deutsche bank fine for $14 billion, the pressure on the US to back off must be tremendous. For all we know, the money may already have been slipped under the table to Deutsche Bank, and all of this being for show. We don’t know. Printing new currency and repeated deficit spending loses its effectiveness over time. Inflation takes over and the value of the currency declines. What they’re saying is right but it may be a slow slide instead of a sudden collapse. I believe it will happen; the question is “How sudden?’

    21. jimmy says:

      Waiting for this shyt to happen. We live in such exciting times. I don’t have any thing saved. Got sick of having my food stuff getting old. so let it happen we have been waiting for about 8 years now and nothing yet. Who gives a rats ass anymore . let it happen. 4 years from now probably saying same old shit. who do I believe anymore/

    22. The water is boiling. The tea pot is ready to scream. A further downturn in the standard of living will happen first. Unless the politicians actually screw the pooch and start WW3. Then the timeline, and all bets, are off. What do you guys and gals think?

      • Equorial says:

        I think that with all of the “surprise revelations”, courtesy of (perhaps Russia via WikiLeaks), that what is eventually learned about Hillary will be more than enough to place Trump as POTUS. Problem is, The DNC isn’t going to stand for any of that, as the entire world is at stake and billions upon billions of dollars, promises made under tables and in dark alleys…

        I don’t think we’ll ever stop printing American Paper Money even if the world “ceases and desists” …we like it so we’ll keep it even if it is based upon peanut shells.

        so what do YOU think?

    23. Talked to about 10 different people yesterday evening, the propaganda is working. They all thought it was Russia who was the aggressor. They said we should attack Russia and wipe out Putin. Never under estimate the stupidity of the average American. They don’t understand anything about Globalism or the NWO. It’s not our military. It’s not our government.

    24. How dare the Russians put their country so close to our military bases!

    25. anon says:

      One thing for sure is that all the shit you have to deal with will make your head spin. I see the election as a turning point. One side I could stay here at SHTF and help others and on the other go to ground. It is just that simple. At the very last we all should prepare for civil unrest because no matter how the election goes there will be pissed off people. Plus how the economy is doing is no help either. A Nuclear World War is a possibility now more than ever. Add it all up and decide what to do.

      Some is better than none.
      Prep for War.

    26. TEST says:

      26 SECOND CLIP TELLS YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE

      Here is the video, 26 seconds, caught off mike, of the fascist left media telling a CNN focus group what to say about the last debate before they go back to live: https://youtu.be/GqCIub3SmCI?t=1 Particularly funny is the part about Hilary saying the nation – now lawless thanks to her (and her rapist husband) – is great because it is “good.” Good as in Filegate, Travelgate, those miraculous cattle future trades, threatening women whom Bill assaulted, Benghazigate, the email scam, you name it.

      Make no mistake about it, Hillary Clinton and her elite backers control the mainstream media narrative. However, the illusion of an unbiased press is quickly falling apart as multiple leaked emails, and now, a video from last night’s debate on CNN shows. During a brief clip (see above), which has now been posted to YouTube, CNN forgot to kill reporter Pamela Brown’s mic when they cut away. As the camera cuts back to the allegedly ‘unbiased’ debate focus group, Brown can be heard speaking to the group under her breath.

      “America is great, because we’re good,” Brown whispers to the group in an obvious attempt to coach their answers.
      Once Brown realizes she is back on air, she quickly asks a participant in the focus group what anti-Trump argument from Clinton impressed her most. Having just been told what to say by Brown, the participant quickly regurgitated her canned response, adding her own adaptation for good measure.
      “She stated that America is already great, and I tend to agree with that,” the panel member says. “Though we are slow in progressing in a number of ways, we are progressing and we need to continue the momentum.”
      As the Daily Caller notes, this brief exchange is being interpreted by many as proof CNN was coaching focus group member about what to say on the air. Within just a few hours of being uploaded, the video collected nearly 150,000 views. There are other possible explanations, though; Brown may have been informing focus group members about what clip CNN had just aired (since they couldn’t see the replay themselves), or Brown could have been setting up a semi-staged response after previously finding out what the focus group member wanted to say.

    27. Anonymous says:

      The wise have given up on the rich man’s economy. Those who are still addicted to it would become wise to also give up on it and learn how to live–and much better, though not by the definitions spoon-fed to us by the rich– without it.

    28. lena says:

      sorry, but it’s not the economy that is suicidal; it’s the country.

      decades of bigger govt and larger debts have incentivized companies to offshore as much as possible, increase automation of jobs as fast as possible and use foreign workers here and abroad as much as possible.

      in fairness, these things would happen eventually but because of govt and liberals not putting its own country first for decades, this is happening now.

      quoting phil collins, we are “throwing it all away”

    29. Brian says:

      It is a sad day when the dollar is being saved as the global reserve currency because all of the other major currencies are doing worse that the dollar.

    30. TEST says:

      More on the Bill and Hil sleaze, Juanita Broadderick live interview. https://youtu.be/RIDWlHTVMs8?t=113

      No wonder the fascist left is frantically trying to throw up fake Trump victims for the gullible and easily led lemmings on the left. (No, I’m NOT impressed with Trump’s comments… but in the old courts of law, back before the Clinton’s got in and there WAS the rule of law – and “is” actually meant is – there was a BIG difference between locker room talk and actual rape. Not that the fascist left or the lamestream media gets that.

    31. Godsoldier says:

      When it goes to shit emp riots war economic crash ect just remember all that insurance you have payed like health auto home owners ect wont pay nothing and just dissappear and you will be left out to dry so dont bank on it will get replaced or payed for you will be left holding the bag or out in the cold so to say. Economic crash the insurance industry will be bankrupt. .emp where do they start?? The insurance companies cannot replace everything everywhere. .war here or collapsed society = total calamity everything. So forget the ponzie scheme of insurance saveing anything we are all just forced to pay them money for nothing when that time comes your best insurance is your what if plan, God, and alot of ammo

    32. The biggest bubble in history is the one inflating right now, it is the sovereign bond bubble which sits under ~USD 1 quadrillion in interest rate and FOREX rate derivatives. This is a complete analysis of the biggest asset bubble in history and shows the bubble’s vulnerability points by network analysis. When this bubble pops all the collateral supporting the leverage ratios of 25:1 in the TBTF banks and 100 to 300:1 for FOREX traders go vertical… Enjoy!

      https://medium.com/deepconnections/prevailing-gray-swans-7-september-30-2016-8c1df681fd52#.g3q3cc2io

    33. Godsoldier says:

      A whole lot of people are gonna be in for a big surprise and when they think things cant get any worse it will. I suppose there will be alot of suicide that will happen because people think they have coverd their asses with insurance and when they have loss all they thought was safe and protected they will give up because they have no faith or drive. The sad part is that suicide is the only unforgivable sin and you can not ask for forgiveness before commiting the sin. Hell is gonna fill up then the dead will walk the earth.

      • Equorial says:

        “There will be no law on the streets.” (We are already encroaching if not fully INTO that much of “what is written” – and THAT is sobering to consider).

        I find it interesting that the people of the countries of this world are well aware that it is not Americans, but The American “Bad Government” who want NWO who bring death to their families and nations.

        That’s good but it does nothing for those suffering a fate they didn’t carve for themselves…yet have to experience it while far away those who cause it are ignorant of how it feels to suffer for hunger, bodily mutilation yet you still live. We consider ourselves to be ‘above’ such things, and we ARE by and large, but there are the few, the ‘one-percenters’ Engineering this Long Black Train. (They love to mystify their propaganda too, as there is much to build lies upon ..and they are not hesitating).

        I say we can blow it all to hell just as badly as they have underestimated our determination that NOTHING they have done will remain whence Obama is gone. 100% Purge of his 8-years starting with Loretta, SCOTUS, Kerry, Holder …hell-long line of “dyed-in-the-wool horse-thieves” that needs hangings …we all have the lists and line/paracord.

        How does a an entire planet eliminate their “one-percent” effectively? Outright murder? (As they would ‘do’ us even now)? Forfeiture of all ‘fortunes’ then hung (harsh enough)? I often wonder if The Founding Fathers knew the Federal Government would wriggle their way to supremacy, thus they gave us “a sure thing” with The Second Amendment. (Word is that Hillary is going to argue the interpretation of the word “is” in The Second Amendment, thereby rendering guns illegal in the hands of citizens). I can’t back that one up, was in CNN recently. Whatever she may try would fail miserably and quite likely get her ass ousted from The White House (shortest term in history, 1 day).

    34. It always bugs me that this type of stuff doesn’t get more national attention

    35. Sgt. Dale says:

      OFF TOPIC:
      Had to qualify the other day and was talking to a couple guys that I have never seen on the Range.

      Found out that they were EMT/Paramedics out of a couple of the county up by Shitcago. I forgot which ones they were because I was SHOCK because they told me that they are going to have to start carrying weapons on the ambulances on all of their calls, because of the robberies and actual attacks by the Leaches and Zombies that they serve. WTF!!!!!

      On Topic.

      I will get concerned when China collapses. The rest of this we have heard before for the last 3 to 5 years.

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        Sgt Dale, Some FF Paramedics in parts of Shitcago have been carrying guns for 30 years that I remember. Robbery meaning the Drug Junkies are now after the Paramedic Medical Box where the Morphine is kept. They need to lock the Ambulance when they go into a scene. That’s why on most all medical calls you will see a Fire Truck also respond with more personnel along with the Ambulance to keep an eye on the vehicles outside parked at a scene. And assist lifting Fatass patients. Anybody acts up you swing a hydrant wrench at the perp.

        ~WWTI… Don’t miss that job.

    36. arizona says:

      I have been hearing this same doom issue, now for years. I submit we are already in it. And have been for the last four years. 100 million out of work, the list goes on , and you all know it well. If the election in thrown, and the UN is called in, you will see a split in the armed forces. Half for , and half against, OWG. Likeliest point to effect change, go fishing.

    37. LaManiac says:

      Alot of people aren’t concerned over the banks in Germany!We are a global economy,and it will affect us some,watch the dominos!Get your money out,invest,hide and be aware!
      PM’S Are nice but keep some fiat for other senario’s.What’s enough what’s enough ammo?hmm
      Be well all ! Gotta beat the sunrise,hear a deer calling my name,lol
      Maniac –out

    38. A Arizonian says:

      I thought everything was suppose to fall apart by Oct. 5th?

      What’s clear to me is that nothing is clear!

     
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