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Open Corruption: Latest Hack Uncovers Literal “Pay to Play Folder” On Clinton Foundation Database

Tyler Durden
October 5th, 2016
Zero Hedge
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This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

Editor’s Comment: How much proof does one need that a certain candidate is grossly untrustworthy with the highest office? Who would allow such a person to gain power? Who could expect anything but massive breaches of the public trust and runaway corruption?

While the legitimacy of this hack has been called into question, the underlying picture it paints is already clear – the Clinton Foundation, Hillary and the whole operation have streamlined pay-to-play, access for wealthy donors and policy that is based around private interests at the public expense. If there really was a folder called ‘pay to play,’ then it just goes to show that they don’t even bother to hide it.

Why was the evidence against Hillary not enough to disqualify her eight years ago, when there was still plenty of evidence at hand? Now, when that evidence is piled up, it still isn’t enough. What gives? The elections are an illusion, and the system selects its own at any cost, even apparently, to the contradiction of the false leader images they have been portraying.

Clinton Foundation Allegedly Hacked Exposing Thousands Of Donor Databases; “Pay To Play” Folder

by Tyler Durden

While the hack of the Clinton Foundation was foreshadowed two months ago, moments ago notorious hacker Guccifer 2.0, who previously was responsible for hacking the DNC and DNCC not to mention the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Shultz, announced that the moment “many of you have been waiting for” has come, by revealing that the Clinton Foundation has been hacked.

This is what Guccifer 2.0, who has denied being affiliated with the Russian government claiming that like the original Guccifer he is from Romania, posted moments ago on his website:

So, this is the moment. I hacked the Clinton Foundation server and downloaded hundreds of thousands of docs and donors’ databases.

Hillary Clinton and her staff don’t even bother about the information security. It was just a matter of time to gain access to the Clinton Foundation server.

The unknown hacker has allegedly exposed 1,000 of Hillary donors (a small list of master donors can be found here)…


…corporate donations made to various House representatives….


…as well as Wall Street bank donations, curiously cross-referenced to how much TARP funding they received.


As Guccifer notes,” It looks like big banks and corporations agreed to donate to the Democrats a certain percentage of the allocated TARP funds.

Guccifer 2.0 also posted a note to Julian Assange who was mocked on Tuesday morning after he failed to produce Clinton documents he has long claimed to have.

“P.S. I’m pleased to congratulate Wikileaks on their 10th anniversary!!!,” Guccifer 2.0 writes. “Julian, you are really cool! Stay safe and sound!”

* * *

But the most interesting, and perhaps damning, finding is the following: a root directory snapshot revealing a folder which Hillary may have some trouble explaining: “Pay to Play


The hacker also provides a link to the hundreds of thousands of other documents he has access to saying “I can’t post all databases here for they’re too large. I’m looking for a better way to release them now.”

We will go through the files, with a focus on Pay to Play because this may be the clearest confirmation that after repeated accusations that the Clinton Foundation was primarily a conduit for rich donors to get access to privileged kickbacks, or well “pay to play”, this was indeed the case, although the fact that someone actually left a folder with that name in the foundation’s server makes us wonder if someone is really that stupid, or whether this hack is even real.

To be sure, as The Hill notes, some of the files contained in the leaked data dump appear to originate not from the Foundation but from the DNCC:

A sampling of the posted documents include a spreadsheet of big bank donations, a list of primarily California donors, an outdated spreadsheet of some Republican House members — and a screenshot of files he claimed to have obtained, one of which was titled “Pay to Play.”

But there are a number of red flags that suggest the documents are in fact from a previous hack on the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), not a new hack on the Clinton Foundation.

A spot check of some of the people on the donor list against FEC filings found that they all lined up with DCCC contributions.

The Clinton Foundation discloses its donors, and many of the alleged donors published by Guccifer 2.0 do not appear to have given to the organization.

One spreadsheet was allegedly created by a Kevin C. McKeon at DCCC in 2009. There was a Kevin McKeon that worked at DCCC at that time.

The Clinton Foundation has denied the hack, with president Donna Shalala saying that “none of the files or folders shown are ours.”

This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

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Date: October 5th, 2016
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  2. Satori says:

    are Guccifer and Assange one in the same ??

    come back when you have something that will stand up in court

    when I see the words “allegedly” and “appears” show up numerous times
    I think RED FLAG
    Bull SH_T coming yer way

    I could have made this story up

    • john stiner says:

      The only thing that will stand up in Court is Bill Clinton’s dick.

      • Apache54 says:

        IF it is a female judge!! LOL

        • KY Mom says:

          How does an organization like this even qualify to be considered as a “charity”?

          This should not come as a surprise. This “charity” has been referred to as a “pay to play” enterprise.

          Just 5.7% of Clinton Foundation Budget Actually Went To Charitable Grants

          “Just 5.7% of the Clinton Foundation’s massive 2014 budget actually went to charitable grants, according to the tax-exempt organization’s IRS filings. The rest went to salaries and employee benefits, fundraising and “other expenses.”

          “The Clinton Foundation spent a hair under $91.3 million in 2014, the organization’s IRS filings show. But less than $5.2 million of that went to charitable grants.

          That number pales in comparison to the $34.8 million the foundation spent on salaries, compensation and employee benefits.”

          Another $50.4 million was marked as “other expenses,” while the remaining almost $851K was marked as “professional fundraising expenses.”

          ht tp://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/

          • Satori says:

            Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go?

            h ttp://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

            “Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

            Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house.”

            how about this as a comparison?

            Why Franklin Graham’s salary raises eyebrows among Christian nonprofits

            h ttp://religionnews.com/2015/08/18/franklin-grahams-salary-raises-eyebrows-among-christian-nonprofits/

            none of the Clintons pull a salary
            Franklin Graham (Billy Graham’s son) sucks out $800,000

            bottom line is
            you tell me what YOU want to believe
            and I will find you the “evidence” to back that up
            (for a reasonable research fee of course )

            LMAO !!!

            what is THE truth ???

            • KY Mom says:

              Re: from the article I posted above from the Daily Caller

              These tax figures which you dispute came from the Clinton Foundation’s 2014 IRS filings.

              The last time I checked Franklin Graham was not running for president. However, Hillary Clinton is running for president.

              • Satori says:

                KY Mom
                I don’t dispute anything
                I merely posted that article as a counter to the info you posted
                doesn’t mean I agree or disagree
                and if they are from IRS filings
                then they are for all practical purposes part of the LEGAL record as it were

                and yes it is true that Graham is not running for President
                but it is also a fact that he presents himself as an evangelical Christian and he is siphoning off LARGE amounts of money from this and other charities for his personal benefit

                Jesus set the example
                or so we say
                he owned a simple robe and a pair of sandals
                Paul followed in his footsteps
                and worked as a tent maker to support his ministry
                but then
                Christians of today
                don’t seem to reflect Christians of yesteryear do they ?

                • grandee says:

                  Religious Racketeering is everywhere. One must be careful where one gives.

                  Jesus and the money changers come to mind. Temple concessions were a racket then too.

                  I’d post a verse for that but am camping and have no access to my Bible at the moment.

                • bb in GA says:


                  You don’t read comprehensively. When Jesus was crucified, the Roman executioners gambled for his garment because it was seamless and they couldn’t tear it at the seams. Jesus wore the equivalent of a $1000 suit today. A short time before his execution a woman broke an alabaster box with perfumed oil in it worth an ordinary worker’s whole year’s wages. Jesus and his 12 disciples had a Treasurer. If you only have a buck 2.98 amongst the bunch of y’all, you don’t need a Treasurer. The story of the men tearing the roof of the house suggests that it was His house cuz nobody is recorded as being pissed off about the tore up roof. The Jesus of Nazareth Evangelistic Association was not po’ and pitiful by a long shot. <bb

                • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                  Jesus was a homeless drifter. Where ever he laid his hat was his home. Yes he too was a rolling stone. puff puff, ahhhhhh…

                  ~WWTI… Snagged another 100 Oz Phyz Silver Rounds @ $17.62. They look great. Got to luv that jingle they make. I think I nailed the bottom pretty close on this one. Could be $28.50 by Dec.

                • Satori says:

                  well bb you are correct about the seamless garment being expensive
                  however I must say that your overall interpretation of Christs ministry is probably the most OFFENSIVE post I have read on this forum
                  I regard it as an absolute perversion of the faith
                  but that mindset certainly explains why modern day Christians all seem to belong to the church at Laodicea

                  just wow
                  I feel like I need to take a shower with Chlorox and steel wool

                • bb in GA says:


                  Sorry to offend…but show me where I’m misleading anyone ?


                • bb in GA says:

                  @ Satori

                  I don’t know you, so please forgive any assumptions about you.

                  How many needy people are you helping ? How are you helping them ? With $$$$$, no doubt.

                  Until my faith is developed to the point where I can bless a two piece fish dinner w/ 5 hush puppies and feed thousands, then I guess I’m gonna need MONEY to get r’ done.

                  How bout You ?


                • Satori says:

                  bb no doubt you are a nice person
                  and forgive me for such a knee jerk reaction


                  I’ve seen this kind of teaching before
                  it’s the “prosperity gospel ” CRAP
                  I regard it as one of the greatest apostasies ever committed by the Church
                  it has done untold damage to lives and souls
                  it is literally ANATHEMA to me
                  I’ve seen the damage it does first hand
                  I’ve even seen a person die because of it

                  nothing at all wrong with the Church raising money to help those who are in need
                  helping others is the very bedrock of the New Testament teaching

                  it is the gross misinterpretation of such verses that allow pompadour haired TV “evangelists”to justify taking money from the poor and easily misled
                  it pays for their mansions,their garage full of luxury vehicles and their private jets

                  “prosperity gospel” ?
                  may those who expound this dangerous heresy burn in Hell
                  and please God
                  let me be the one to keep the pilot light lit

      • laeagle says:


        I heard it is crooked and it cannot stand straight up due to ‘peyronie’s disease’! Perhaps Satori can correct me.

        Louisiana Eagle

      • WhoWTFKnows... says:

        That’s a lot of doe in trade for some political BJ’s. And with all the corruption going on in the last few decades. And just think back not a single Banker went to Jail. That got Bailed out with Bonuses. So Bribes and payoff’s work. Obama’s biggest campaign donors are the Banks.

        But to skip the actual campaign bribe, in order for Hillary to accept foreign donation bribes are illegal, Hillary went through her Private Server Cash Register called the Clinton Foundation and all Tax Free. Then wiped out 30,000 emails of indictment. Chelsea Clinton 36 Yrs old, net worth is $15 Million and sits in a $6 Million Apartment in NY City with her thumb up her ass. The Clinton Crime Family is a huge blackmail and bribes for favors scandal.

        Did you see Chelsea Clinton out there working for big Pharma, telling how Marijuana kills people. But In fact, there is no deaths what so ever recorded from the use of POT. SO BASICALLY THE CLINTONS HAVE KILLED WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN, in the History of POT.


    • laeagle says:


      With great respect and appreciation for the diverse views you bring to this forum, I would love to see you make one up on Trump, his foundation, or the RNC. Is, “I could have made this story up”, just braggadocio? If not, put your money where your mouth is.

      Louisiana Eagle

      • Satori says:

        you do realize of course that the “story” is just something pulled off the internet don’t you?

        YOU could type something up that looked legit

        give this a little thought
        I’m not saying its fake
        there is NO proof that it is legit
        and YES I could come up with something similar
        just type of a list of banks
        add a name and some $$$ amounts

        and then say hey guess what I found these file names also

        at this point that is ALL this consists of
        there is NO substantiation
        even Judge Judy would throw it out for LACK OF EVIDENCE
        at this point it is just ONE guy making some claims
        isn’t it ???

        kinda like the 40 million Russians evacuating story
        and remember the XCHAN a couple weeks back

        and how about the story on NaturalNews that by last Thursday either or both Clinton or Trump would be the victims of assassination attempts

        MANY people see something posted on the net
        and jump on it

        I just want some PROOF via independent sources

        • laeagle says:


          That was quick! Perhaps someone could try calling all those phone numbers that are listed to see if they are real and who answers those phones. Interesting!

          Louisiana Eagle

        • buttcrackofdoom says:

          very interesting, satori, that you see all the pieces right in front of you of an EPIC crime, yet you poo-poo the idea as nothing but fantasy. how many thousands of pieces of this type of thing do you need to see before you start to think “hey, maaaaybe there’s some truth to this”. i think i will call y’all the 90 percenters. those americans that SHOULD be able to see a corrupt government, rotten to the absolute CORE(WAY worse than some of the turdworld countries we’ve heard so much about when we were growing up), yet you keep supporting these criminals at every turn. even the FBI director says on national TV that she’s guilty(those THINKING americans ALREADY knew). yet even with a majority of republicans, we can’t charge her with ANYTHING? she’s GUILTY of numerous crimes. you know it. I know it. most of the public knows it. yet they love this politicly correct imbicile more every day. dispicable! she’s a deplorable damned witch, and if america AINT DEAD, we WILL see her in chains before this is all over with.

        • Blam says:

          The spread sheet has the phone numbers and the names and if those are correct the document is legit because there is no way on earth to get all those names and numbers and occupations unless it is given by those people on the spreadsheet.

    • Ding, Ding, Ding. You sir are a winner for Intelligence and independent thought, for the ability to see and think for yourself, for having and taking care of your BS meter and not letting it rust out and get caked over with distractions.

    • Nailbanger says:

      Stand up in court?
      Assuming the legal system is legit i doubt any info would “stand up”
      Like someone else sais, its a club and we aint in it

    • Gonetoolong says:

      I don’t know about this story’s validity, but it is funny that you think anything on Hillary will stand up in court. That is a good joke. In case you haven’t noticed, our entire justice system is compromised. It goes all the way to the top and beyond. They only prosecute what they want to prosecute. THEY (club members) are essentially untouchable at this point. We are truly fucked and most of us have not a clue.

  3. KY Mom says:

    Hillary Clinton should be in JAL, not running for president.

    • KY Mom says:

      She should be in JAIL

      • Woogie says:

        It doesn’t matter when most people in this country don’t care what she does, including the FBI… and they put on blinders just so they get their teat to suck on. I believe she will be elected president which shows the moral decay this country has embraced. It reminds me of the time in Noah’s day, sooner or later it will take a toll and we who know it’s coming, must be prepared.

    • Apache54 says:

      KY Mom,
      AGREED!! only way it will happen is IF we get a decent person in the white house and they can clean out the scumbags and replace with good people and then MAYBE some will have prison or gallows!!!

  4. Captain Crunch says:

    Either way the bîtch needs to go away for good

    • Satori says:

      I am curious
      exactly what felony law was broken ?

      and here’s some good news for people in North Carolina


      the beast has move much further offshore

      and while I’m off topic

      I HIGHLY recommend the movie Deepwater Horizon
      one of the better flicks I’ve seen this year

      • buttcrackofdoom says:

        is it a felony to lie to CONgress?
        is it a felony to send classified email on a private server in your basement?
        is it a felony to have someone murdered?
        is it a felony to take money from a dignitary and then give them special favors, all while you are a secretary of state?
        is it a felony to tell america that benghazi was caused by a movie, when she knew better?
        is it a felony to sit on your hands and do nothing when dozens of americans are about to be killed in beghazi?
        is it a felony to not provide more security to your ambassador, when he’s asked more than a dozen times over a period of weeks/months, then he’s killed?

        no? no felony there?….i betcha’ WE could come up with….just one….would that be enough to put YOU in prison, if it was YOU that did it, and not the annoited one?……..there’s ONE reason we aint gonna see the cuffs on that card-carryin’ cunt….because the SPITEHOUSE SAYS we aint gonna see ’em.

    • Apache54 says:

      YUP!!! BOTH of them HIM and HER!!

  5. john stiner says:

    If this is the way government works, then how do I sign up to participate in the fraud. I want to get rich too…

    • laeagle says:


      Can you ‘pay’ to ‘play’? I think their game of ‘pay to play’ is out of the reach for most of us at this site. Perhaps DK or Eppe could join their league. It would be interesting for sure and it may even be fun like going to the Casino! We are perhaps better off with acquiring our preps, stacking, and stashing, locking and loading.

      Louisiana Eagle


    The Antichrist will come from Turkey.
    I’ve always despised Johnny Turk – ALWAYS… now I know why.
    Fight the good fight Christian folks and take no Muslim scum prisoners.

    Special thanks to Mac for a zero-PC platform where we can come to vent our throttled spleens as a way of blowing off steam…

    P.S… Hillary for Prison! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  7. loadtoad51 says:

    We are in a world crap, people are brain dead ,Its all about partys and not America,this isnt a contest or a game people wake up we are being played like a fiddle.

  8. KY Mom says:

    ISIS Calls for Random Knife Attacks in Alleys, Forests, Beaches, ‘Quiet Neighborhoods’…

    “Rumiyah, a new magazine issued by the Islamic State advises lone jihadists to get over any squeamishness about using knives and embrace sharp objects as “widely available” weapons of jihad in nighttime stabbing campaigns.”

    “In the first issue of Rumiyah, which debuted a month ago, jihadists were advised to target teens playing sports after school or even flower sellers hawking blooms on the street.”


    • In some Asian Countries, Physical Education classes (PE), is not team sports like football or soccer, it is self defense. Kung Fu, Karate, Jujitsu, boxing, wrestling and other forms of self defense are the norm.

      The Internet is full of pictures and videos of little blond boys and girls getting beaten by thugs here in the U.S. And in Europe. There are also many videos of little Asians kicking the hell out of bullies, thieves, and would be sexual perverts.

      If we don’t institute such classes as part of PE in public schools, then parents must pay for private classes. A boxers bag and boxing gloves is a nice Christmas gift for the whole family.

      Fathers and mothers can start the process of teaching self defense at home in ordinary ruff housing on the lawn in the backyard. See if kids don’t love the physical contact sports. You don’t have to hit them hard or hurt them. Hit them softly and let them punch and kick. After you wear them out, or vice versa, they are actually more calm and peaceful. And they will have the confidence needed to ward off an attacker.

      A well trained person can disarm a knife wielding psycho.


    • smokey says:

      If you routinely don’t carry your concealed pistol when out and about, this would be a good reason to take it with you.


    Assange should be hung by the neck ’till he’s verily, verily dead. Not only for being a sex case but also for boring people to death – friggin’ shill.

    Radical Muslims want to kill you.
    Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill you.
    And so it goes on and on and on…

  10. Satori says:

    a rather scathing indictment of the Clinton Foundation

    It’s Time We Crush the Putrid Roach Motels of Philanthro-Crony-Capitalism, Starting with the Clinton Foundation

    h ttp://www.oftwominds.com/blogoct16/philanthro-crony10-16.html

    the author does not provide enough independent verification for my comfort
    but if you follow some of the links
    he does provide some evidence

    fair and balanced !

  11. It appears that the people of the Left just don’t care about morality. They’d vote for the Devil if he promised free college. Oh! They are voting for the Devil!

  12. Watched Fox Business channel this AM. Problem. Stewart Varney and one of the other Limey Socialists were discussing Facebook in Europe. Germany is complaining that Facebook doesn’t remove “hate speech” fast enough. The German government views all opposition to the Muslim invasion as “hate speech”. And they want it removed immediately. The problem I have with the Fox coverage is they used the lexicon of the radical leftist government to report the story. Never once challenging the concept that disagreeing with your oppressor is hate speech. If Hillary is elected, there will be a hate speech law passed in the US. Most European countries already have it. Up to 5 years in prison for speaking your mind.

    • Satori says:

      as economic and social conditions continue to deteoriate
      you will see governments become more and more repressive
      they WILL maintain control as ALL costs,the Constitution be damned

      I strongly suggest everyone read The Fourth Turning

      h ttp://fourthturning.com/

      it is very prescient

      what is happening should come as NO surprise to anyone

      A prudent man sees danger, and hides himself; But the simple pass on, and suffer for it. Proverbs 22:3

      the Fourth Turning has been a guiding principle for me for many years
      it has served well,and that is why I have positioned myself as I have

  13. AGENT SKINHEAD says:

    Yeah, talkin’ of the Devil, get this fella…

    Muhammad Hisham Kabbani a prominent Lebanese-American Sufi Muslim leader says…
    Allahu Akbar “We see that the Mahdi will lead a world revolution that will institute a New World Order based on the religion of ISLAM.
    The Mahdi will offer the religion of ISLAM to the Jews and the Christians.
    If they accept it they will be spared. Otherwise, they will be killed.
    And the prophet Jesus will be their executioner under Mahdi, our ISLAMIC MESSIAH”

    How much more disgusting blasphemy and warnings of Islamic domination does the west need to hear till they wake up and kick the [email protected] back?

  14. Satori says:

    Sarah Palin Actually Made A Pretty Good Observation About The VP Debate

    h ttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sarah-palin-debate-tweet_us_57f469cfe4b015995f2befd9?section=&

    I gotta agree with Palin on this
    however I have it on good authority
    (I read it on the internet)
    that Joe Biden was actually wearing a pair of red high heels himself !

  15. Nailbanger says:

    The reality is that most of the voting public vote ideals or emotion, they dont even really know what or who they are voting for.

    • Satori says:

      Nailbanger you hit it on the head (no pun or whatever intended !)

      your statement is eerily reminiscent of what Hitler had to say about “the masses” in Mein Kampf

      Hitler had contempt for the great mass of people
      but he knew he needed them to achieve his political ends
      and he knew how to USE them to do just that

      nothing new under the sun

      (and NO I am NOT comparing Nailbanger to Hitler so anyone who thinks so,cool yer jets)

      although I did read an internet story that said Hitler had escaped to Hawaii and was living incognito


      • Nailbanger says:

        We Krauts are of one mind, well in some things, not going to run out to clean the genepool,

        I just know too many people who vote party line and dont really look into the details other than what they hear on the tele,,,

        And that goes for both sides, the other thing that just makes me sick is the fact that ALL THESE POLITICIANS ARE CORRUPT!
        All of them

        • Satori says:

          reminds me of the time many years ago when I was a poll worker (for the Republicans by the way !!!)

          people would show up election day
          and literally not have a clue who was running or what the issues were
          they would find a Democratic poll worker or a Republican poll worker and ask for a sample ballot and then would go and vote straight ticket

          I saw BOTH sides do this constantly
          it was absolutely sickening to me
          lazy and clueless
          and that by CHOICE
          yet they fancied themselves good AMuRiKaNS cause they voted
          and I bet they all had big AmURiKaN flags flying on their front porches

    • rellik says:

      It goes beyond the voting public.
      Back in the day when I was a project engineer, in charge
      of lots of money, and many engineers, I quickly discovered that
      even with very intelligent people, many times
      perceptions are far more compelling to them than
      facts and data. That is why politicians lie, if they tell
      people the truth, the people won’t accept it. If you tell a
      manager the true cost of a project they won’t approve it.
      TPTB control the “narrative” or perception, that is
      why the world is getting so crazy.
      A few on this site pay attention to facts and data.
      The world is a dangerous place. Bad things will happen.
      Prepare in the manner you see fit and seek out knowledge
      from others, but be a critical thinker.
      Prep on!

  16. Satori says:

    related to the Russian nuclear drill story ?

    Russian Army Is Drafting 152,000 New Soldiers

    h ttp://www.thedailysheeple.com/russian-army-is-drafting-152000-new-soldiers_102016

    “Obviously they are gearing up for something…”

    in a nation as small as Russia that sounds kinda ominous doesn’t it? thats a lot of troops

    does it take on a different tone now?

    Russian Military Personnel

    h ttp://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/personnel.htm

    • Kevin2 says:

      Large forces on either side aren’t important in a US / Russia confrontation as it would not escalate to WWII size. I suspect relatively small isolated incidents(s) and either sanity prevails and one or both party’s (most likely) back off or it very rapidly goes to “schools out” nuclear mode. A fearful problem is misjudgment during the interim period between conventional and the decision to go nuclear as MAD has been abolished two plus decades ago for the insanity of first strike and “winning”.

      I have a vision of someone looking at rubble with society regressing 150 years, advanced medical care non existent, 90% of scientists and skilled technicians dead and bio warfare disease increasingly claiming victims long after its release and saying, “We Won”.

  17. Bill says:

    It is a completely different world they live in and that which I reside.
    The Klintons are ALL about power and influence (ie – money).
    I can say all kinds of nasty things about people of this ilk – but why? It is a waste of my time and brain matter.
    They are what they are and I am who I am. The twain shall never meet (I hope !).

  18. PO'd Patriot says:

    I thought Guccifer was led away in handcuffs a couple of weeks ago to do a stretch in prison. So how old is this news?

  19. Satori says:

    “Guccifer” the Romanian guy did get a prison sentence

    however many people believe “Guccifer” is actually a group of hackers

  20. Kevin2 says:

    The greatest political prophet of the 20th century, George Carlin stated clearly in his sermon on stage, “I don’t believe anything the government says; nothing”.

  21. It would seem that one would be surprised by such information, but not I – … if anything … this makes complete sense.

    50% of donations to Clinton campaign come from J✡ws

    50% of donations to Hillary Clinton’s campaign come from J✡wish contributors, according to a new study.

    Arutz Sheva Staff , 27/09/16 22:16


  22. aljamo says:

    This government will kill any politician who opposes the status quo. Make that any prominent person from any walk of life. Read at veteranstoday.com: Encyclopedia of Domestic Assassinations (The First 1%). This is a government of criminals.


    Submitted by IWB, on October 4th, 2016


  24. Brian says:

    Corruption in government is a real problem in a time of crisis. People with authority will use that authority to benefit themselves and their families.

  25. Satori says:

    Why the Vice-Presidential Debate Does and Doesn’t Matter

    ht tp://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-the-vice-presidential-debate-does-and-doesnt-matter/amp#

    “according to a poll carried out for ABC News late last week, more than forty per cent of Americans can’t name the two major-party candidates for Vice-President”

    if it takes an educated and engaged citizenry to preserve democracy
    we’re screwed

  26. NewVegasBadger says:

    To use the old line: Never believe, until it is officially denied. So I will take the posting by Guccifer as being the real deal since it was officially denied by Donna Shalala.

    Again, what is disturbing is not Hillary’s corruption, but that her supporters don’t care and will continue to support her regardless of what she does.

  27. Mr Smith says:

    This puppet voting is but a side isue and if you don’t stop the criminals in washington who are all under jewish banker control since 9/11 then you might have to deal with incoming nukes from Russia if the USA attacks Syria.

    Sitting on your hands is no longer and option and Trump is just another puppet so save your votes, none of them are worth jack $hit