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    Mentally Disarmed: Obamacare Using Screenings to “Take Your Gun”

    Dave Hodges
    March 1st, 2016
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    1. Anonymous says:

      Well, there go’s all of passin’s guns!

    2. old nam vet says:

      Recently had my yearly physical. There are ten questions on the question form but this time I was only to answer the first two. Both of them are phych. questions pertaining to depression. I’m doing great,of course. It’s on folks.

      • Sgt. Dale says:

        O N V
        I to just had physical, like you I go the same stupid questions.

        I told him that I was perfectly sane! The whole world is nuts. I didn’t really but I thought about telling him this.

        I did asked him why the questions on sanity. I told them an insane person is not going to tell him that they are insane. He told me that the new paper work from Obullshit’s medical law. I told him you mean the Obullshit medical TAX. he said yes.

        Sgt.

        • Commie hater says:

          The only insane people I know are doctors and other commies.

        • old nam vet says:

          Here’s a good one for you. Minneapolis Police dept is trading all their swat uniforms in for Police navy blue so the general population won’t be alarmed. The word is folks think the cops are militarized [camo uniforms] so the aesthetics will be changed so we won’t be so alarmed when swat kicks in doors in the neighborhood. Nice huh? :0… Big brother is changing tactics, should we? Peace

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Old nam vet, it doesn’t change my tactics or my position. Whoever forces their way into my home will get their stupid asses wasted. Doesn’t matter who they are or what they’re wearing.

          • Genius says:

            Uniforms, t shirts, suits, whatever they are wearing, if they kick the door in all they will see is a rapid succession of flashes then darkness.

          • TEST says:

            Maybe they can wear some of those yellow smiley faces on their uniforms as they break down your door?

          • Plan twice, prep once says:

            I always laugh my ass off when I see a cop in camouflage, is that so you can hide among the donuts in the donut shop undetected?

            Or is it so you can secretly stand next to a patrol car unseen?

            Or is it so no one can see you standing on a street during a traffic stop.

            The funniest is, a cop in camo wearing a blaze orange vest on top, so they don’t get run over when they are playing in traffic.

            Really WTF, who are you trying to impress?

            • Ack! Ack-ack! says:

              Once when a sitting president came to visit my town, I worked in an office across the street and on my lunch hour I noticed a higher number of street lingerers supposedly waiting at bus stops and looking in store windows, it was laughable because they all had marine haircuts and were well muscled and wore obviously new blend in type clothing, I passed one with a smile and said nice disguise asshole, boy did he glare…if you pay attention even a little bit you know who is supposed to be there and who is not, don’t discount the little brain in your gut-

          • Colt M4 says:

            Old Nam Vet,
            So when swat kicks in my door, instead of shooting them three times if they were wearing camo, I’ll only shoot them twice now that they are wearing all Navy blue!!! Now hows that for being less alarmed!!!!

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Sarge, I avoid doctors altogether. When I first start hearing this BS a few years ago, that became just one more reason to stay away from doctors. I don’t need a physical THAT bad.

        • Genius says:

          Just tell them what they want to hear geeeez. Play along like your a normal retarded sheep. Thats all you have to do it’s simple…

        • DotheDishes says:

          Hey sgt. If you didn’t answer all the question, then I’m sure you must have ODD.

      • Equorial says:

        Hey, they can play mind games and war games and firefights with me anything they want but when they start dragging our children into the arena all bets are off and lead starts flying very quickly. If this is indeed how it is to go down, then ‘they’ are going down very, very hard. (Our only other choice is to let down our own children and feed them to the wolves). Even the gov’mint should know better than to place anyone’s back to a wall…

      • Anonymous says:

        Obamacare apparently has some rules about asking if a patient has been getting depressed.

        Don’t know it the question was specific to my (older) age group or if everyone is subject to it.

        Or so I was told the last time I had a physical in the initial screening for it.

        If you haven’t been, just tell them no. For that matter, if you have been and are still in control of yourself tell them no too.

        • Genius says:

          A man went to his proctologist one day for a checkup
          The doctor told him to pull his pants down and bend over the table
          The man did it and the doctor said
          “Now Im going to stick one of my fingers up your ass and feel for problems”
          The man thought for a second and said
          ” Gee doc, can you stick 2 fingers up my ass instead?”
          The doctor looked puzzled and replied
          “Yes I can but why do you want me to do that?”
          The man said “I just want to get a second opinion” 😛

      • TEST says:

        I believe the definition, at least according to Einstein (if I remember the quote correctly) is that insanity was doing something over and over again that doesn’t work.

        Let’s see…. Venezuela, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Kirchner’s Argentina, the USSR, Detroit (first major city to adopt the socialist inspired Model Cities Prog.), now most of failing Europe, bankrupt California, the even more bankrupt People’s Socialist Thugocracy of Illinois.

        By that measure, no leftists should ever be allowed to carry guns, which I’m ok with. Besides, for leftists, guns look “scary ” – as if they sprout legs on their own and run around shooting people on their own – so they wouldn’t want them anyway. Leftists do, of course, want the thought and speech police to have them and – according to those massive bullet purchases by the govt last year, apparently weathermen, IRS agents and who knows? Fail your drivers test and the take you out back and…

      • Shootit says:

        Why answer the questions?

        I went in for a colonoscopy and they gave me 3 pages of questions. I handed it back to them blank. Then the nurse tried to prod me into answering the questions. I told her that it was none of her/their business. She was surprised. I asked her if she could guarantee that it would never be accessed by the government or used against me in the future? Got her thinking.

      • Winston Smith says:

        My doctor’s office tried to get me to schedule a physical at the start of the year, but I refused. I felt a little suspicious about it being part of Obamacare and told them I was still uninsured and uncertain if I was getting insurance when they tried to tell me it was free and covered by insurance. The sad thing is that this now pits doctors against patients and removes the wall of confidentiality that was expected when dealing with a doctor. Now, people who own guns and would like to keep them can no longer seek treatment for mental health issues. This may have unintended consequences as people will choose not to treat certain conditions and die because of it.

    3. Stars & Bars says:

      Slowly the noose gets tighter. I would be happy-happy to give up my guns when all of Hollyweird, the Lame Stream Media, and de Gubermint does de same.

      They’re come’n fur them, be it Hitlery or Donald Dump-Trump.

      Mississippi ain’t England and Michigan ain’t Australia, so by the time that they do, we’ll all be ready fur em.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        If they want to live, they had better forget the idea. Anyone who targets me will have a fight on their hands and will lose.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        They may get a few, but they will never ever get all, guns are not the only means to fight tyranny.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        C’mon S&B you know them phag phuckers in Hollywierd don’t own any real guns. But they’ll sure demonize your ownership even though they’re throwing blanks during filming and making a paycheck from it. Piss on them.

        • Colt M4 says:

          PO’d check out Hollywood director John Milius, he’s very pro gun!! He’s got a huge collection of class three machine guns. Back in 93 when LA had all the riot’s, all the Hollywood left wing anti gun types came over to John’s house asking if he would loan them one of his guns. He looked them all in the eye, and told them NO!!! and slammed the door in their face!

    4. BoneforToona says:

      Both of them make the crosshairs very visible. Much better than obozo.

    5. Thor 1 says:

      I recently went to the doctors office for mandatory blood work for the blood pressure meds I take which I might add is slightly elevated. The nurse and doctor both asked about depression so yes they are looking and I might add not qualified to make any assessment. But don’t try to take my guns because my blood pressure will go up!!! Lol

      • DMONIC says:

        Thor- NO blood work is “mandatory”. Your doctor has to subscribe you your meds, otherwise they would be putting your life at risk. Politely refuse the blood work and ask him/her to fill your rX.

        • Gonetoolong says:

          Not true. We don’t have to prescribe if the meds themselves can be causing problems. Elevated renal values, liver enzymes, potassium/sodium imbalances, glomerulonephritis with hypoalbuminemia, etc, etc. The frequency of testing has a lot of lee way, but we can’t just prescribe on and on without knowledge of what we may be damaging on the inside.

        • Thor 1 says:

          Not so,the blood work is to make sure that the medication doesn’t hurt my liver if it has any bad reaction then I would get changed to a different med.but its working.

        • Anonymous says:

          A doctor would be guilty of malpractice if he or she did not order necessary blood work or other testing required for the safe use of any medication that was prescribed.

          And ill results resulting from prescribing without the needed testing could actually cost him or her their license.

      • Commie hater says:

        The doctor is a commie. Don’t answer his shit.

        f ’em

    6. Angry Old White Guy says:

      The last time I went to the doctor’s was in 1999.

      My wife has been going for years, because of Type 2 diabetes and during one of her annual physicals AFTER she went on Medicare the doctor asked her if we had guns in the house and if they were secured.

      GUNS, oh no, my wife is no idiot.

      • Justice says:

        Since Obamacare, the medical establishment has become a branch of the federal bureaucracy. They help collect information for the government.

        Reagan said, that when they finally take over the health care industry, loss of freedom would be complete.

        • Commie hater says:

          You’re right, Justice. And did I mention that doctors, all doctors, are commies. Doctors allowed Medicare and that is communism, depression and gun questions sealed their fate.

          f ’em

        • Genius says:

          My county Sheriff is constitutional and is proving it by coming out and saying the feds bullshit will not fly here and he will take them out! There is HOPE!

      • Commie hater says:

        Doctors are commies and they were castrated with Johnson’s Medicare.

        f all commies, doctors included and especially doctors.

    7. Kulafarmer says:

      I can hardly wait,,,

    8. TEST says:

      Ah yes… the Fabian socialist version of Soviet psychiatric prisons. Funny how the fascist/communist left never has any new ideas, ever since Robespierre.

    9. TEST says:

      Wikipedia notes: “If you were a Swiss man, you would be a soldier as well. Every able-bodied Swiss man must go to the army in Switzerland for 90 days (Rekrutenschule-Ecole de recrue) and then every 2 years until the age of 42, he must return for practice for 19 days. This allows the government to raise an army of 400,000 men, fully armed, within 24 hours, as every soldier has an assault gun in his house, complete with ammunition.” http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/swiss-business-guide/swiss-army.html “; moreover, “Each individual is required to keep his army issued personal weapon (the 5.56x45mm SIG 550 rifle for enlisted personnel or the SIG 510 rifle and/or the 9mm SIG-Sauer P220 semi-automatic pistol for officers, medical and postal personnel) at home with a specified personal retention quantity of government issued personal ammunition (50 rounds 5.56/48 rounds 9mm…)
      http://en/wikipedia.org/wiki/gun_politics_in_switzerland.”

      Switzerland ***which has had three times the gun ownership as, for example Germany,*** has also had a much lower murder rate. And statistics like this ring true throughout the world. A short 3 minute video is here, for those that wish to see a short report on the Swiss and their guns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFUu7cfa7k&feature=player_embedded#t=22s

      Indeed, Thomas Sowell notes countries with stronger gun control laws than the US, such as Russia, Brazil and Mexico (Mexico basically bans firearms completely, yet has a higher gun homicide rate than the US), have much higher murder rates, while there are many countries with high rates of gun ownership but low murder rates, such as Israel, New Zealand and Finland. In fact, in Mexico, the murder rate is 22.7 murders per 100,000, whereas the global average is ~7 homicides per 100,000, and the gun happy US is 4.8 murders per 100,000. http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-end-gun-debate-forever.html. That is correct – the US, which has the widest gun ownership in the world, is below the worldwide average in homicides.

      Of course, in the US, approximately 90 million legal owners of guns, owing 300 million firearms; murdered zero people last year. Contrast that with the approximately 170 million Prof. R.J. Rummel of Univ. of Hawaii, in his book Death by Government, says were killed in the last century, the majority of them after their governments disarmed them (Stéphane Courtois, author of the highly regarded Black Book of Communism estimates 94 million were murdered by Communists alone). An hour long, very sobering summary video documenting what happens when the population has their weapons removed can be found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDivHkQ2GSg&feature=player_embedded#t=8s Or perhaps one might wish to contrast this to the 32,000 people who lost their lives – including thousands of youth – in car accidents last year (see http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s1103.pdf or http://www.nhtsa.gov/NCSA to get the latest exact figure). And for those of you who correctly answered the “cars are necessary, but guns are not” objection, a gold star, for indeed you are correct – but armed population, as the Founding Fathers repeatedly noted, is the sine qua non of a free country and a free population. “Free” as in – as historical records show – comparison to a country like the USSR, Cuba or China that end up murdering millions – including children (just google “Ukrainian Kulak” and look at the photos of millions of children who were murdered by Stalin’s government. As the saying goes, “Free men have guns; slaves do not.”

    10. The USPSTF recommends screening for depression in the general adult population, including pregnant and postpartum women. Screening should be implemented with adequate systems in place to ensure accurate diagnosis, effective treatment, and appropriate follow-up.
      THAT MEANS YOU.!!!!

    11. TEST says:

      Dr. John Lott – former gun control advocate at Univ. of Chicago did his research, and ended up writing the famed book, More Guns, Less Crime, spoke on the Piers Morgan show shortly after the Connecticut school shooting, and noted that since 1950, in almost every public mass shooting in which three or more people died, it was in a setting where guns are banned, such as schools. (One obvious problem being that when your victims are unarmed, you have more time to stop and reload!!) Of course, relative to the Sandy Hook tragedy, Connecticut already had banned “assault weapons,” and the Newtown school was already a gun free zone. There also is already a total ban on guns in the possession of mentally unstable in Connecticut. A lot of good that did. And if the shooter didn’t get it from his mother in this case, do you really think he wouldn’t have gone to the black market to get one, or turned to other tools, such as the bombs the leftist Unibomber or Timothy McVeigh used? Were people any less dead because those two men used bombs instead of guns? On a personal level, when I was a student teacher in Illinois, a young high school student set a bomb right outside my classroom – it was found before it went off, but could have killed many students if it hadn’t been found in time. Are we next going to ban intelligence so that people can’t make bombs out of various materials? As a matter of fact, perhaps we already have banned intelligence – or at least wisdom – from our schools. But that is a story for another day…. along with some enterprising researcher conducting a study correlating the number of school shootings with the number of teachers having sex with their students.

      Meanwhile, hidden from public view by a leftist media, school shootings are indeed occurring in countries with strict gun control. Former psychology professor and Army Ranger Lt. Col. David Grossman noted in Dec., 2012, on his Facebook site at http://www.facebook.com/LtColDaveGrossman, that gun control poster child Germany has had two mass murders in their high schools that had body counts surpassing those at Columbine, while Dunblain, Scotland had a massacre in a kindergarten class, and just down the road from where I used to live in Alberta, Canada, the town of Taber experienced a school shooting. Handguns are outlawed in Canada . Finland has had three school massacres, and of course there was the Anders Breivik massacre in Norway, which also has restrictions on gun ownership. And if it isn’t guns, it’s knives. Grossman notes in gunless Belgium, a sicko dressed as the Joker from Batman got into a day care centre and hacked a dozen babies in their cribs, injuring them. Two more babies were killed, as well as one daycare worker. If leftists want schools and other areas as “gun free zones,” perhaps we should make those who created gun free zones liable for the murders that occur there? And at the same time, may we ask why government buildings in Washington DC are not “gun free zones” – or is it that the “let them eat cake” ruling class gets armed security everywhere they go in the town (not to mention exemption from ObamaCare), while the rest of us poor, unwashed masses have to trust our safety to luck? In fact, there is a formal petition to the White House to have the Secret Service protecting the president and others in Washington made a gun free zone – remember, it is guns themselves that are the cause of crime. (Article at http://www.examiner.com/article/white-house-petition-demands-secret-service-be-replaced-by-gun-free-zone?cid=Editorial-NearYou-HP-RecentArticles

      But, in case you don’t believe Lt. Colonel Grossman or Dr. Lott, perhaps you might believe the man running lead for Obama’s gun control task force after Sandy Hook, Joe Biden? Here is Biden in his own words, explaining that gun control will not stop a potential mass shooting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTyoppK_aDM&feature=player_embedded#t=2s
      The top ten school massacres are listed here, for your reference: http://listverse.com/2008/01/01/top-10-worst-school-massacres/, the worst being the Beslan school massacre in Russia, with 386 dead, and over 700 injured by Chechen militants. In the US, one of the first US school massacres occurred, as Mark Steyn notes, on July 25,1764, when “…four Lenape Indians walked into a one-room schoolhouse in colonial Pennsylvania and killed Enoch Brown and ten of his pupils. One child survived, scalped and demented to the end of his days” (no assault rifles were recorded as being used in this attack); and the worst massacre in a US school occurred May 18. 1927, in Bath, Michigan, when school board treasurer Andrew Kehoe used a bomb to blow up the Bath Consolidated School, killing 44 people, including 38 children. Again, much to the chagrin of the left, no assault weapon was used.

      And the comments from the left that masquerade as “fact,” such as the post-Sandy Hook Bill Clinton statement: “Half of all mass killings in the United States have occurred since the assault weapons ban expired in 2005. Half of all of them in the history of the country.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=or-inV1KKDE#t=0s are not even close to reality. Leaving aside the definition of what “is” is, what are the actual facts? Unfortunately – similar to the ClimateGate revelations – someone actually did the research in a 2007 book entitled Mass Murder in the United States” A History, authored by Grant Duwe, director of research and evaluation at the Minnesota Dept. of Corrections. Here’s what Duwe found, as summarized from http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/bill-clinton-caught-in-lie-over-mass-shootings-fact/ :

    12. Illini Warrior says:

      Alot of preppers got a first hand shock when one of the first participants in DoomsDay Preppers got hauled away to the looney bin – all due to his appearance on the show ….

    13. Note that this started under Bush. Recreated under Obama. Two sides of the same coin. Guess Donald Dumpf isn’t on Obamacare. Nor Hills.

      • PO'd Patriot says:

        Exactly ‘Becca. There’s plenty of guilt and blood running down the palms and fingers of both of these bastards and one waiting in the wings to be our next president. If this she-bitch-cur (please excuse my language) gets elected, we’re in for a world of hurt. And I ain’t too certain about the Trumpster. Matter of fact, there ain’t a man-jack of any of them I feel comfortable voting for. I’ve been in business for myself for twenty-five years and I know that everyone you hire brings along some type of ‘baggage’ with them. Depending on their skill set, you have to decide if what they know AND CAN DO, will offset/minimize that baggage.

    14. Archivist says:

      My doctor knows better than to ask me stupid questions.

      I have a rehearsed answer for any of those stupid questions asked of me by anyone: None of your damn business!

    15. Seminole Wind says:

      My Dr. asked me once if “I Drink”. I told him, ” Yup, I’ll have a glass of water about once a week when I run out of Whiskey”. “It’s a Family Tradition” Hank Jr.

    16. Ben Raines says:

      I only see my doctor once a year…

      to get him to sign hunting permission form so I can hunt on his property/pond in the fall.

    17. TEST says:

      • Did you know that there was a mass killing in Austria 2 days after Charleston where the killer drove his car into a crowd. When the car stopped, he got out and started stabbing people. The driver is a radicalized Muslim who appears to have been following the directives given by the Islamic State in October 2014 on how to treat infidels, “…slaughter him with a knife or run over him with your car…”Are their deaths any less horrible because the killer didn’t use a gun? Is the killer any less evil? This incident in particular highlights the fact that the mind of the killer was the true problem and the tool didn’t matter. When the car stopped working, he transitioned to a knife and continued his evil behavior.

      • Did you know that the day before the Sandy Hook murders in 2012, a mentally unstable man stabbed an elderly woman and then went to a nearby school where he stabbed 22 children before being subdued. There were 6 knife attacks like this in a 7 month period in 2010 that killed nearly 20 and wounded more than 50. They went mostly unreported.Where did this happen? China. Why didn’t you hear about any of these mass killings? Why are “Newtown”, “Columbine”, and “Charleston” top of mind, but not the mass stabbings that happened in Brooklyn, Houston, Osaka, Calgary, Murrysville PA, China and more?

      • Did you know that while there is 1 child (under 10) death per year per 1 MILLION guns, there is 1 drowning death per year per 11,000 residential pools? That means that an individual backyard swimming pool is roughly 100 times more likely to kill a child than a given gun.

    18. TEST says:

      The natural right “endowed by our Creator” to keep and bear arms is, as James Madison’s Chief Justice, Joseph Story, put it, “the palladium of the liberties of the republic.”

      “[W]hen the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, – who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia.” –George Mason, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788

      “Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.” –James Madison, Federalist No. 46, 1788

      Patrick Henry, in the Virginia ratification convention June 5, 1788, eloquently argued for the dual rights to arms and resistance to oppression: “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined”

      Noah Webster similarly argued:
      “Before a standing army can rule the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States.”

      “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”

      – Thomas Jefferson

    19. Anonymous says:

      People defending the second amendment (rightly) blame most of the senseless mass shootings on mental illness and psychiatric drugs and call for something to be done about it instead of blaming guns and gun owners in general.

      So when someone starts doing something about it they are taken aback, recoil in horror at the thought of it it and call for an end to it being done.

      Go figure.

      • Whitney Simpson says:

        Without even realising that the mental health system is exactly how they will disarm millions just like the corrupt federal government does to returning vets and just like the communists did to political opposition in the soviet union.

    20. 21Bravo says:

      I had to go to the ER a few months back… The triage nurse asked the standard question and then ask if I was suffering from depression, had no hope and feelings of despair… I said “YES- ever since 2008 when obama was elected”. All three of the nurses in the room burst out laughing…
      Then I said for the record I have no issues….

    21. Overwatch says:

      When our pediatrician asked my then 11 year old if there were guns in the house and if they were locked up, he politely replied “that’s nobody’s business “. Mommy and I bought him a sundae on the way home.
      When he’s in high school, I’ll teach him to take the fifth. I am Italian by descent. It’s kind of our special thing.

    22. Warchild Dammit! says:

      I listen to the voices in my head,and do what they instruct me to!

    23. bootsy69 says:

      I always thought that “Oppositional Defiance Disorder” was children exercising critical thinking in concert with envelope pushing, not nececelery a bad thing, trying to figure out how to best wade through societal bullshit…

    24. swinging richard says:

      I would never tell a doctor I was depressed and had a gun.

      • Shootit says:

        No better prescription for depression than a couple hours at the range.

      • Commie hater says:

        Doctor: What is your chief complaint?
        Commie hater: I’ve got a sore throat.
        Doctor: Do you own any guns?

        Commie hater: Have you killed any commies?

        Doctor: I’m asking the questions. Are you depressed?

        Commie hater: I’ve fought in two wars. I’ve killed a lot of commies, still do. How many commies have you killed?

        Doctor: This isn’t about commies. This is about depression. You know, don’t you, that if you’re depressed the government will confiscate your firearms?

        Commie hater: Jeeze, doc, you need to get out more. I’m going shooting tomorrow. You wanna hold my targets?

     

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