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  • Clarocet for Kids

    Hillary Wants to Sue Gun Industry Into Oblivion, But Give Vaccine Manufactures “Absolute Immunity”

    Greg White
    March 7th, 2016
    Comments (179)
    Read by 6,000 people


    This article was written by Greg White and originally published at

    Editor’s Comment: It is no surprise that the system – and its shrill puppets like Hillary Clinton – have gone to all lengths to bar us from our right to bear arms, yet bend over backwards to protect the medical and vaccine industries from litigation, even in spite of clear evidence of harm.

    That’s what the Statists support – a completely empowered system of cronies who are shielded against all accountability, and a people who can hardly stand up for themselves or their rights. At least it exposes the fact that this presidential candidate – and so many others in the system – have not principles, and should be regarded as a grave danger to the United States and the American people everywhere.

    Double Standard: Clinton argues gun manufacturers, but not the vaccine industry, ought to be liable for product related injuries and deaths

    by Greg White

    Politics is ridden with double standards. Last night’s Democrat Party presidential debate was no exception. When it came to the issue of gun control, Hillary Clinton argued that gun manufacturers ought to be financially liable for gun deaths, claiming that “no other industry” has total legal immunity. Never mind the fact that the vaccine industry does have total legal immunity, which Clinton supports.

    The issue of gun control took flame when Gene Kopf, whose 14-year-old daughter was critically injured in an Uber driver’s shooting spree last month, asked the Democratic primary candidates how they would crack down on gun control. He added that he didn’t “want to hear anything about tougher laws for mental health or criminal backgrounds, because that doesn’t work.” Kopf also stated that Jason Dalton, the man responsible for the shooting that nearly killed his daughter, “had no mental health issues recorded, and had a clear background.”

    In response, Clinton stated, “We have to try everything that works to try to limit the numbers of people and the kinds of people who are given access to firearms,” and acknowledged that “not every killer will have the same profile.”

    Absolute immunity

    However, she added, “I also believe, so strongly, Gene, that giving immunity to gunmakers and sellers was a terrible mistake.” Clinton was alluding to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, which protects gun manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when their products are used to commit crimes. Clinton went on to press that her opponent, Bernie Sanders, voted in favor of the bill.

    “No other industry in America has absolute immunity… and they sell products all the time that cause harm,” Clinton said. “You talk about corporate greed? The gun manufacturers sell guns to make as much money as they can make.”

    Clinton glossed over the fact that the vaccine industry, which she supports, does have legal immunity when their products cause harm. When the question of vaccine safety was brought up during the Republican presidential debate last year, Clinton made a tweet that compared people who want evidence to support the claimed efficacy or safety of vaccines to those who deny that the earth is round or the sky is blue.

    National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act

    The vaccine industry obtained immunity from legal liability for its products in 1986, when Congress passed a bill called the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. The act gave the impression that the government was reaching out to vaccine-injured families when, in actuality, it denied injured parties the right to a trial by jury.

    The federal act gave vaccine manufacturers the right to not disclose the risks attached to vaccines. Due to the “learned intermediary doctrines,” vaccine producers are not liable for vaccine injuries nor do they have to disclose correct information to those who are getting vaccinated.

    Since injured families can’t bring vaccine manufacturers before a jury, they have to submit to the Department of Health and Human Services. The federal government then decides whether an injured family should be compensated to not speak out about the case.

    Commenting on Clinton’s hypocrisy, Mike Adams, editor of Natural News, explains the difference between gun manufacturers versus vaccine manufacturers:

    “Hillary’s statement shows her incredible ignorance about the current state of legal immunity for vaccine manufacturers. While gun manufacturers do not intentionally design their products to cause harm, vaccine manufacturers deliberately formulate their products with known neurotoxic chemicals and heavy metals. If any industry should be held responsible for the injury and death of countless victims, it’s the vaccine industry.”

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    1. eppe says:

      What a mucked up world we live in.

      Upside down…

      • Captain Crunch says:

        Very very very soon they will begin to crack down on commenters here and posters on other sites. The 3 am no knock raids will happen so be frickin prepared to do what you have to do to take care of business.

        Ready at less than a moments notice

        • WhoWTFknows... says:

          Lets take a Survey: How many guns do you have at your bedside at night??

          4 here at the moment:
          2x 9mm semi’s pistols
          12g riot shotgun
          5.56 pistol. 60 rnd mag

          And within 4 yards farther out a .22, and another 5.56 Sig swat rifle w/ 2x 40 round mags clipped together filled with green tips. And a .177 air rifle 1200 fps.

          And you would have to get through my neighbor’s early alert 6 barking dogs, a dirt road with 2 locked gates and 6 ft tall barbed wire fence to even get to the entrance on my property.

          Yeah good luck with that knocking at my door at 3AM. Or swim through the Gator infested swamp coming the other direction. Ain’t happening here.

          How about you all?


          • Plan twice, prep once says:

            I like a 45 for my strong hand and a 9mm for my weak, but that’s just my preference!

            • clinthospo says:

              Just remember and this comment is not directed at you, but if a swat team comes in at 3am, they will have body armor level 4 many to stop a ar- bullet. I would recommend a 12 gauge buckshot or even birdshot like target practice ammo to the face to blind your attacker and Im saying this on legally protecting yourself not someone who is wanted.

              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                Never letting them close enough to your front door in the first place is a No brainer. However, aim your AR At their balls, hitting a femoral artery in their crotch is pretty much sudden death.


              • WhoWTFKnows... says:

                I will add, even in the City you can Post No Trespassing signs at the City easement by your driveway. Police have no permission to come to your door at all, for any reason, or come onto your property, unless they are carrying that Paper Warrant. You also do not have to open your door for the cops at all. And place a sign on the door, come back when you have a warrant or get the fuck off my property and stay off. Also post signs that says “All Trespassers will be shot, Survivors will be shot again.”

                Not having those No Trespassing signs in place just allows any dumb bumm to come to your door to solicit or scam you. Another reason why I moved out of the city, as I was just a thin door away from a forced entry. And had Black solicitors knock about 2 times a week back then. What also worked well for those knocking at my door, is that I put up a fake camera above my front porch door, ($10 online) that would blink when motion would set it off. I watched many come to the door look up, then turn and go away, never even knocking. So that also works great. Use layers of security. On my No Trespass signs I write with a sharpie, Video Recording.

                Here in the country, any car or person coming down the dirt private road to my property will have to pass my neighbors 4 yapping chihuahuas and 2 other big badass dogs. And my closest neighbors Pitbull. I am on a dead end. That extra 30 seconds barking allows me to grab my rifle and head out to my sandbagged LPOP, to see what is up. I also have plenty of No Trespassing signs behind my fence line, and on the canal, so there are plenty of warning not to try and enter my property.

                Anybody still living in any major city like the Brady Bunch is pretty much going to be a Victim when this all goes down. You will flee for your lives like refugees in Syria. Then what? Plan XYZ on the flee?


              • PO'd Patriot says:

                Clint, I sometimes trade off twixt the AK and 870. In the 870 I have a mix ‘tween 00buck, ‘buck and ball'(00 buck with .56 cal lead ball) and one ounce deer(foster type) slugs. I can defeat the armor with that as well as any partition/door in my home which I will shoot through as necessary.

              • Braveheart1776 says:

                Clint, good to see you back. Ever since the burglary and I replaced my 2 favorite handguns, I also keep my shotgun loaded with 00 buck every night. I’m not concerned about any legality concerning what I do. I don’t follow any restrictions on self-defense.

          • Jacknife says:

            Damn. Sounds like my kind of place

          • PO'd Patriot says:

            Glock 19 (Hornady critical defense +p), AK Bulgarian with 30’s, S&W AW with CT grips.

          • Sgt. Dale says:

            UP 45, Kimber Pro Carry 2, 12 Ga. 1100 Tactical, Taurus 917, Saiga 12 Ga. 12rd. mag.

            4 yards 357 Mag, 9mms, 22 ARS, AKS, In short come to my place and I can get to them. Better bring body bags.

            Out to 25 yards You don’t want to know or face them.


          • nancy says:

            What a guy really should have is a .50 Barret or something that will pack a little more punch than a 5.56.

          • Old Iron says:

            I do have dogs on both sides and sleep very lightly. My cat walking on the carpet wakes me up and I have to tell it to go back to sleep.I am ready for 3am I trained with security personal come and take it.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          CC, no one wants to try that on me. Not if they want to go home ALIVE at the end of their shift.

        • TheGuy says:

          There’s really a lot easier way to do that, which involves absolutely no violence whatsoever. And is at least as effective.

          But I decline to give anyone any ideas. They probably have the idea already anyway. It’s plenty obvious.

          • Ketchupondemand says:

            TG, Why so cryptic?
            So you’ll just give up? No violence necessary, hmmm.
            Might work. Say hello to the fema handlers.

            • TheGuy says:

              No the comment was:

              “Very very very soon they will begin to crack down on commenters here and posters on other sites.”

              That does not require a 3AM knock at the door. That does not require SWAT teams or billy clubs or anything even kind of violent in the least.

              There is a way they can do this totally nonviolently, tomorrow, with zero injuries zero casualties and zero deployed forces and there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it.

              It should be blatantly obvious at this point, I’m practically giving it away now.

            • Genius says:

              Ketchup, C’mon now I know what he means as I have posted a few ideas on it before. You don’t even need to be there for said offences to work 🙂

        • Philosopher says:

          CC: every morning that I wake up and no one has kicked in my front door is another great day in the good ‘ol USSA!

        • They cannot ‘crack down’ without disrupting our “freedom of speech” …and few, if any here, are obeying unconstitutional laws any longer. Constitutionally, we, the people are the folks that the feds WORK FOR (and not the other way around). If a law is unconstitutionally ‘sound’ …then it is no law at all. Indeed, it would take something akin to another revolution to either return the USA to “as was” conditions or lose out to Muslim agendas and NWO agendas, lose our constitution and amendments …and then our very lives. We, the people, have GOT to make a ‘hard stand’ and put a halt to this insidious bullshit they are flooding us with (to maintain division and hatred …so that ‘infighting’ will prevent us from going directly for THEIR tyrannical throats.
          Whomever has the lovely property that is behind two locked gates, “gator swamp” out back and a six-pack of guard dogs. (Your entire property could be laid to waste with a single drone …no need to pay you a visit). But, of course we ALL known that Obama would NEVER EVER allow a drone strike to be conducted by American forces upon American citizens (actually, in the past he directly, on TV, asked for our permission to use drones against us …remember? We said ‘hell no’ …which means, like all other things, he scratched out an Exec Order authorizing such usage anyway …and therefore, what we clearly said NO to was instituted against our ‘vote’ anyway.
          *America has “anti-Americans” sitting in every seat-of-power in this nation and their agenda is not to prolong the life of whites nor christians (and many, many others).
          We have a duty as Americans to drive this ‘cancer’ to hell OUT of America – and that includes using deadly force if necessary. Now, if anyone can ‘copy that much’, what needs doing is very clearly outlined within both The Constitution and the myriad of quotes made about the constitution from The Founding Fathers.

          WE ARE UNDER SIEGE (at this level-of-events, history will call this “the Soft War”. Those of you who have “oathed” to defend this country from all enemies foreign and domestic have jobs to do …and you are NOT going to obtain any ‘legal assistance’ conducting ANY of it. Or, we can continue to put nothing into pushing them back and happily allow everything we’ve ever known to be utterly destroyed. Our children will adore us when their eyes eventually open, if any are allowed to live.

          We are no longer in any position to “obey laws” that were placed to ‘terrorize’ YOU into not wishing to make a stand (unless your property is ambushed at 0400hrs). One by one everybody here feels they will come out on the winning end of those scenarios eh? Yeah, just like they did at Waco …and even more recently in Burns, OR. We sure are kicking their asses BUT (at least) they are wise enough to wait out the election before going after EVER OTHER PERSON WHO WAS PRESENT (and then use a ‘catch-22’ to put them all away as terrorists). *Each of those men had best be setting themselves up to avert what they know will heading their way. /rant=on [satiated]//

          • WhoWTFKnows... says:

            Bud, I don’t think I am a high priority for a drone strike. Unless I give them good reason. It also would be hard to even drop a swat team in here from above because of the mass tall trees scattered across all of my property unless they rappel down a 200 ft rope. Which just makes them targets for my weaponry. That would be a long fall, splat.. And I don’t see that option either. They could kayak up the fresh water canal or use a stealth trolling motor and have to assault at night with night vision, to jump on my bank. I also have an extra roll of barbed wire I can string between the trees on the canal bank as tangle foot with metal rebar sharpened to a point and pounded in the ground, at the choke points. Trip and falling onto sharpened rebar would not be pretty. I would put that in place now, but would have a pile of deer to deal with in the morning. I have motion detectors, but the deer and coons set them off all hours of the night by my gate, so I don’t use that method anymore, but still available if needed, and that has a 1/2 Mile Range so I could put that up outside my property further up the road. I guess I could also install one of those facing the canal on a tree and camo it well, towards the possible direction of intruders if they came up the canal by boat. I’ll work on that one. Good idea.

            Lots of Force-Multipliers out there to use.


          • Dean Ross says:

            Piute County Sheriff: I’ll deputize every man, woman, and child in the county.

            Gets good at the 7:30 mark.

        • Slingshot says:

          Captain Crunch

          Your reaction time is going to be the determining factor. If you are one of the first they go after that would be the luck of the cards. Further home invasions by the alphabet gang will be harder as word is past.

          How bad could it get? Wearing Body Armor to bed.

          I think we will have a Job Problem first.
          Then a money Problem.
          Then a food crisis.
          Civil unrest.

          Then the door knocking begins as we all become, Enemies of the State.

        • Mac from t.o. says:

          Funny you should say that. Being that I have children in the house I made the personal choice to lock my firearms in a cabinet. That being said , I routinely drill getting to my preferred defense tool; the good ‘old 870. From my bed, at a brisk walk I am armed in about 14 seconds.

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Mac from t.o., It’s better to have that shotty right next to your bed if possible. a lot can happen in 14 seconds. My Mossberg 930 is right next to my bedside every night.

      • john stiner says:

        If we can sue gun makers for crimes involving guns, then can we sue car manufacturers for car accident deaths?

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          Here is a Heist that they almost got away with it:
          Inside the $4.8M gold bar heist: How thieves used GPS tracker and remote-controlled pepper-spray launcher to subdue driver and steal 275lbs of gold in Hollywood-like heist.

          The standard Mint Gold Bar weighs 400 OZ, and this heist totaled 11 Gold Bars, and some 40 Silver coins. It was a successful heist, until one loudmouth RAT in the bunch snitch & blabbered to authorities. It took them a year to plan it, and another year to get caught.


          FBI says armed robbers used GPS tracker and remote-controlled pepper-spray launcher to subdue drivers
          Agents identified the alleged ringleader as Adalberto Perez, 46, who was arrested this week in Miami, Florida, and two accomplices remain at large
          A truck on I-95 in North Carolina suddenly filled with pepper spray
          Drivers were forced to pull over and robbers claimed they were police
          Then the men tied them up and marched them into the woods
          Robbers put out orange traffic cones to make truck appear innocuous
          They wore reflective clothing to look like they belonged on the roadside
          Thieves then cut off locks and quickly unloaded 275 pounds of gold and about 40 silver coins into the van and sped away.


        • Enemy of the State says:

          If they open this can of whoop ass , than it opens the gate to sueing their asses off for misrepresentation and the distruction of our republic !

        • Angry Old White Guy says:

          A reprsentative in the NH legistator entered a bill this year that would require gun owners to have liability insurance. Problem is, there is NO insurance company that offers such a policy.

          Didn’t go anywhere, just another waste of time.

        • Godsoldier says:

          When im an old fart with clogged arteries is suing mcdonald on the roster

      • Acid Etch says:

        I want to check out of society completely.

        I’m sick and tired of living in a country run by fucking imbeciles.

        I seriously, truly, madly, deeply, hate the fucking sheeple, the government, dumb women, old people, corporate crap, shit foods, shit jobs, and all the rest.

        I have the skills to pull it off too, being the best prepper of my generation.

        I just need to gather enough wealth. A German man retired and took out his life savings in the Weimar Republik. It was enough to buy him a cup of coffee.

        I know that once I go, I could never come back because the “hiring managers” wouldn’t understand why I wasn’t adding to my resume all those years. Working to make money for other people.

        Entrepreneurial activity is at an all time low in this country.

        What the fuck is left? Service sector jobs? Government jobs?

        Explain to me why education cant be free in the age of the internet. Why the fuck cant we just post an entire degree’s worth of courses on the fucking internet with the tests. When you pass them all you get the degree. Does that make too much fucking sense?

        I want to follow Manfred Fritz Bajorat and go to sea for 20 years. Or live in the mountains in an off the grid cabin.

        What the hell happened to this country? The founding fathers were cool.

        • Anonymous says:

          There is the type of man that doesn’t fit in.
          The type that can’t stay still.
          He breaks the heart’s of kith and kin and roams the world at will.

          I remember that poem from a Jack Daniels print add in a Playboy Magazine back in the late 1970’s, and can identify with your restlessness Acid.

          So,.. “You can either get busy living,… or get dying.”
          Quote: Shankshaw Redemption.


        • Philosopher says:

          AE: jeez quit yer fucking bitchen!

          If you want to be educated this is the best paragraph I have read, in recent history, on how to become educated FOR FUCKING FREE via the Internet:

          “Education: With free MIT courses online, Khan Academy, Coursea, Open culture, Open Yale courses, Tufts Open CourseWare, How Stuff Works, TED,, Codeacademy, Duke U, etc.. Education is free and available to anyone who wants it. It is often a perspective that is presented to people to have them believe that education is only found within a classroom or university. The response this is “if university makes people educated then who created university in the first place? A bunch of uneducated people?” Read the story of Benjamin Franklin, the guy was self-taught. I argue that the education issue in Scranton has more to do with self-esteem and confidence than anything else.”

          Here is a link to the original Zerohedge article, dickhead:

          Dude be a man and do what I heard Robert Young Pelton recommend more than 10 fricken years ago: get a passport and a plane ticket and fricken leave the USSA.

          Who is Robert Young Pelton? Link for your lazy ass:

          If you don’t qualify for a passport, so fucking what, show up at a dock and say you will work for food and get on a ship if that is what you want to fucking do.

          Their is no fence around the USSA keeping you locked inside. The only fence is inside your fucking skull.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Acid, go ahead and check out. good luck.

      • Acid Etch says:


        •73% of Millennials say when they decide to do something no one can stop them.
        •80% say they are sure they will get what they want in life.
        •82% own their future; saying when they fail at something it’s their fault—not someone else’s.

        • WhoWTFKnows... says:

          That’s funny about Millennials as more than a third of them younger than 35 yrs old still live in Mommy’s basement.


          • Acid Etch says:



            • Braveheart1776 says:


          • Braveheart1776 says:

            WWTI, the kids brought it on themselves going to a useless college or university that has more political BS in its curriculum than anything useful, going into debt tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars on student loans to pay for it, then get all their dreams shattered and had to settle for waiting tables, delivering pizzas, etc. funny part is they still have to pay the piper. Now the USDOE is having these kids locked up when they default on the loans. Debtors’ prison anyone?

      • Jacknife says:

        So, if someone used a car, knife, baseball bat, tire iron, hammer, or a sock full of silver rounds to kill someone else, Hillary is saying the manufacturers of those products are liable for the actions of the criminal?

      • The Real REason says:

        Sadly we have no voice. We keep trying but we are going to be stuck with things we don’t like unless we rise up and change things our own way without violence. It’s sad that i’ve felt this way since 2005 but it keeps getting worse.

    2. TheGuy says:

      If you think that’s the only double standard she’s going to stand for, I got bad news.

      Let me put it this way, kiss the institution of marriage goodbye. Men aren’t going to have any other choice.

      • john stiner says:

        Bill Clinton fucked us with the hi capacity mag ban in 1990s, the expectation is that Hillary will do it even harder.

        • Nobama says:

          That was NOT a high-capacity magazine ban. It was a standard capacity magazine ban. Also the exemption for LEO and gov’t agencies makes it an illegitimate law thus invalid and you don’t have any legal mandate to obey it.

          • since it is an ‘infringement’ on The 2nd A., it is ‘null & void’ and can be ignored like all the rest of the unconstitutional laws that are “in place” and enforced, yet bear NO semblance of legality, thus as Nobama said, “…don’t have any legal mandate to obey it.”

      • CommonCents says:

        TheGuy – I am a 60-something yr old woman saying this;

        Most men have already checked out, so to speak. They are either in a bad marriage, that for financial reasons and/or kids can’t get out of OR they are afraid to be in an intimate relationship because of how it might end.

        You can thank the divorce lawyers (sociopaths/psychopaths) as well as the Feminazi’s (female psychopaths) for that.

        Evil people (psychopaths/sociopaths) are destroying humanity on so many levels, and most normal people can’t see it occurring or turn a blind eye to it.

        As usual, just raising awareness. CC

    3. Ketchupondemand says:

      Yeah, we need a vaccine to immunize ourselves and our country from the like of Hitlery. Bloomberg,too.

      • john stiner says:

        There is an immunization for that, it is called an anal plug.

      • WhoWTFknows... says:

        Hillary will be indicted sitting in prison after Trump gets working on And exposing her life history. That crapola may play well at her Commi campaign stops in NY, but not in any general election, or here in Redneck Confederate Flag Flying part of Florida I live in. Choose your State wisely where you plant your roots and own property.


        • That will never happen. The last thing Obama will do is pardon her for all activities she has or may have committed while in office. Just Like Ford pardoned Nixon, she will be given a full pardon. The question just becomes, when does he do it. If she is charged with a crime prior to his leaving office it will be sooner, otherwise at the end of his term.

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            JAS. first the hildebeast has to be charged with something, go through the legal process, and be convicted before she can be considered for a pardon. she won’t even get charged with anything. She’ll find a way to get out of the scandal and get into the WH. She’ll stop at nothing and won’t care how many people she has to get killed in the process. She needs to be taken out herself along with Bill.

        • aljamo says:

          WhoWTFknows… you must be in North Florida to find those nice wooded areas.

      • Kulafarmer says:

        No vaccine but there is a treatment
        210 grain copper jacketed lead lobotomy.

    4. Kevin2 says:

      I had a debate years ago with a performance car enthusiast that thought it was perfectly fine and desirable to ban and confiscate high magazine capacity semi auto rifles (I prefer not using the term assault rifle) but 150 MPH autos are fine because, “They’re not a gun”. The debate went to lawsuits which he said its not the car but the driver. When guns came into that debate the same reasoning was given, “They’re not a gun”. Also interestingly the Constitution is outdated but cars, even those designed to exceed the highest limits allowed by law by 2x are a freedom.

      No he wasn’t from California but NJ differs little in attitude.

      Its Josef Goebbels with the repetition, keep putting it out there until it sticks.

    5. CommonCents says:

      We are too busy arming others, including anti-American nations and even some terrorist organizations as well, while trying to disarm Americans.

      That said, as a sensible, law-abiding, tax-paying American, I find it strange that we are the only people on Earth our government is trying to disarm.

      • rabbitone says:


        Most of the citizens of the world are already disarmed. I believe the U.S. and Swiss are the last nations that have a fully fire armed public…

        • Kevin2 says:


          That is a murky area as regardless of law every nation arms those that do their bidding regardless if they actually know it or not. The movie, Lord Of War, is loosely based upon this. All of those military guns did not get to Africa on their own. Gun control is truly nothing more than people control as its very purpose is to disarm those thought to be a potential enemy now or in the future and arm friends. From just that perspective the hair raises on the back of ones neck as governments commonly disarm their own citizens.

          I think the Cz Republic is codified gun friendly.

        • Philosopher says:

          RO: look at Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. Shit even little kids have AKs in those countries.

        • Braveheart1776 says:

          Rabbitone, that’s true. we armed citizens are the only thing preventing an NWO takeover.

    6. smokey says:

      Anyone still elections don’t matter?

      Vote this November.

      • rabbitone says:


        It is vote early and vote often against Hillary…

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        No, smokey, elections don’t matter.

        • smokey says:

          Braveheart, nothing personal, but tell us that again when President Clinton gets draconian gun control through Congress and you’re hit with insurance requirements, magazine restrictions, and even worse.

          • Genius says:

            If clinton gets in then it’s because clinton was SELECTED to be in.

            • Bingo Genius. Bingo. When Obamao got 100% of the votes in certain districts in Ohio you knew it was rigged. “Polling” place supervisors bragging that they voted for Obamao more than once. Hell “they” cannot even tell you who actually owns the voting booths that you step into. It is all a facade.

            • Bingo Genius. Bingo. When Obamao got 100% of the votes in certain districts in Ohio you knew it was rigged. “Polling” place supervisors bragging that they voted for Obamao more than once. Hell “they” cannot even tell you who actually owns the voting booths that you step into. It is all a facade.

              • Kulafarmer says:

                Yea, and remember the voter turnouts in the 120% range in certain precincts,,, that was all hushed up real quick and pushed under the rug as conspiracy theory,

          • Cellar Spider says:


            Genius is right, she is selected. We don’t vote for president, the electoral college does. Of course the Electoral College is supposed to vote in line with the “poplular” vote for their respective districts, but there is nothing in the constitution that mandates that.

            What was designed as the ultimate failsafe by the founders has been perverted by the PTB / NWO as a mechanism for control of 1/3 of our government….with the other 2/3 of our government controlled simply by FIAT money.

          • Kulafarmer says:

            IMHO Clinton will win no matter what or who votes

            • Slingshot says:


              “Seal The Deal” and Vote for Hillary.

              I am going to choke on it as I do.

              Yes our votes don’t count and Hillary is already picked to be President. Throw in a, “I don’t give a shit attitude”, so why not vote for her. Like we don’t know what she wants to do. Only that people are going to have to pour the fire to prepping and get ready for what awaits us if she does get elected.

              Voting for Hillary will fix the Arm Chair Generals and Keyboard Commando’s. They may think, all will be fine but it is all recorded in the “Cloud”. Knock, Knock Mother Fucker’s.

              As far as Trump? Can he save the day or become a Turncoat if elected.

            • Godsoldier says:

              Im thinking so too k8nda like the few seconds just before you crash your car

          • Braveheart1776 says:

            Smokey, nothing personal here either, but whoever gets in will try for an outright ban. They can pass whatever they want. Doesn’t necessarily mean any of us will follow it.

    7. TEST says:


      • Mexican tap water
      • A wolverine with a ‘pet me’ sign
      • A mixed drink made by Bill Cosby
      • A straight edge shave from Jodi Arias
      • An elevator ride with Ray Rice
      • A night out with Aaron Hernandez
      • Brian Williams memory
      • Michelle Obama staying at a Motel 8
      • Visiting the capitals of all 57 states Obama thinks exists
      • Pinocchio
      • The Boy that cried Wolf
      • The Cleveland Browns going to the Super Bowl
      • A Nigerian inheritance email
      • An unconscious pilot alone in the cockpit
      • Harry Reid’s exercise equipment
      • An IM from Anthony Weiner
      • Anything Nancy Pelosi has ever uttered
      • A factory packed parachute
      • A kiss from Judas
      • An Afghan wearing a backpack
      • Whatever Bill Clinton’s definition of “is” is
      • If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan
      • A North Korean trial
      • A BIC pen that doesn’t leak
      • A tuna fish sandwich left on a city bus for three days

    8. TEST says:

      THE WRECK OF THE HIL’RAY FITZGERALD (Sung to the tune of… oh, never mind!)

      The legend lives on, from the Chippewa on down, of the big fake they call Hil’ray Gumi;
      Hil’ray’s emails, it is said, were a-bound to be shred, when transparency turns tot’lly gloomy.

      With her load of BS ore, 26 thousand emails or more, the Hil’ray server was emptied;
      The public and the truth were a bone to be chewed, when the lies of November came early;

      Hil’ray’s server was the pride of the of the Communist side, coming back from fund raisers in Wisconsin;
      As big liars go, she was bigger than most, with her fibs and deceits well-seasoned.

      Including some terms shaking down firms, for money from LA to Cleveland;
      then later that night when the BS bells rang outta sight, could it be yet more lies we’d been feelin’?

      Her lies in the newswires made a tattle-tale sound, as her techs did their email a-slashin’;
      When afternoon came, Hil’ray was fibbing again, with the force of a hurricane west wind.

      When suppertime came the IT guy came on deck, sayin’ fellas there’s more lies to feed ya;
      at 7 PM Hil’ray’s main campaign caved in, he said fellas is been good to know ya.

      Hil’ray’s spin meisters wired in, they had water comin’ in, and her tissue of lies was in peril.
      And later that night, when her lights went out of sight, came the wreck of the Hil’ray Fitzgerald.

      Does anyone know where the love of truth goes, when her lies turn our faces so dour? The bloggers all say, Hil’ray’d be raking in political hay, if she’dput 15 more bald lies behind her.

      Th’server might have split up or it might have capsized; but it sure rolled deep and took water;
      And all that remains are the blank emails and the games of Hil’ray and her Wall Streeter bankers
      Old Bill Clinton rolls and Hil’ray flings, in the rooms of her ice water mansions. Harry Reid steams an old liars dreams, and Pelosi’s pronouncements ring hollow;

      And further below, the lamestream media all know, they take in what the leftists can send them.
      But as the big liars go, the public now knows, Hil’ray will lie in November.

      In a musty old hall in DC we prayed, for the restoration of the Constitution;
      the church bell chimed, it rang 29,000 times for each email “lost” on the Hil’ray Fitzgerald

    9. TEST says:

      Just a quick refresher course ‘lest we forget’ what has happened to many “friends” of the Clintons.
      1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
      2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
      3 – Vince Foster – Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
      4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
      5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
      6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
      7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
      8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
      9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
      10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
      11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
      12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
      13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
      14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
      15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
      16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
      17- Don’t ever forget about the 4 dead Americans of Benghazi!

    10. the Lone Ranger says:

      We have known for a very long time that the powers that be hijacked vaccines in order to depopulate.

      For example, Bill Gates’ vaccines have so far sterilized 120,000 young women in Africa in the past ten years.

      Tell me, who gave Mr. Gates the right to usurp Almighty God?

      Does Mr. Gates actually know better than God Himself? Presumably, he thinks he does.

      Also, how many more children will develop Autism as a result of vaccines purposefully-intended to be toxic?

      Also, God gave us a Commandment, “Thou shalt not kill” which means we cannot kill anyone, but it ALSO means that if I LET you kill me then I have disobeyed that Commandment because I have become complicit with my death. It also means we must protect the innocent and the vulnerable, and that includes children from toxic vaccines.

      So tell me, who is giving the right to any candidate to take away yet another God-given right?

      If we do not PROTEST the taking away of these and other fundamental God-given rights, then they WILL be taken.

      Therefore, we must Continue to speak Truth to power, especially when instead of being for and with humans, power is used over and against.

      In speaking or witnessing to Truth, we unmask their lies for what they are: weapons of Satan himself who hates all humans, even those he has conned and promised false riches to, either in this life or the next.

      The last president gave immunity to vaccine manufacturers because lawsuits would reveal or uncover the truth! The truth is that under the deceptive “guise” of aiding citizens against the flu the powers that be have hijacked vaccines to hurt, maim, and depopulate.

      Yet, the truth from numerous studies is that whenever we improve the quality of life in a country the birth rade recedes, meaning, it goes down!

      Instead, powerful, gifted people continue to be duped by Satan and his lies.

      Yet the Truth can be known to anyone with an open heart and an open mind.

      – the Lone Ranger

      “Evil is that which destroys.” – Dr. M. Scott Peck

      “Truth never damages a cause that is just.” – Gandhi

      “Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men [& women] who disbelieve it.” – Gandhi

      • john stiner says:

        Tell me, who gave Mr. Gates the right to usurp Almighty God?

        It was the little paper clip guy in Word that says, “You need help ethnic cleansing Africa?”

      • WhoWTFknows... says:

        Your God seems pretty powerless since he has no control over bill gates steralization program. Only thing Your God has power over is his brainwashed sheeple. And he also taxes you 10% every Sunday. lol


        • Tomas says:

          Who has not a clue, also. Nothing in the Bible states you have to tithe. There is a law about giving ten % of your produce at harvest time so that the Levites (who can’t own land, thus grow their own food) are supported to continue their service to Israel and God. God doesn’t force anyone to do anything. He simply provides instruction on how to live by His rules (via the Old Testament) and demonstrates these rules in action in the New Testament.

          Oh, and to correct that commandment about thou shall not kill, it is actually thou shall not murder. Simple reading of the Bible, even hilariously wrong translations, show you that there is a fair amount of justified killing going on, while murder is punished justly.

          And a final thought to,get some of you in a lather, Jesus is a Jew. He lived as a Jew on this planet for 33 years. He lived by Jewish customs, outlined in the Torah (1st 5 books of the Bible.) His chosen people are the Jews. When the Bible speaks of Israel, it generally means all of us descendant of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, regardless of,geographic location. Judah refers to the traditional Jewish homeland the God provided the Jews. I say this to warn you to be aware that when you bitch about Jew bankers, be sure you know who you are bitching about. The banksters are to be despised for their rape of the world’s wealth, but a lot of those Jewish names in banking wouldnt be recognized by God as one of his people.

        • Kulafarmer says:

          So check this out WWTI,,,
          Was listening to NPR yesterday afternoon, they were talking with the author of a book that looks into the eugenics programs in the USA in the early 20th century,
          A little tidbit of history they wont be teaching anyone in school, the eugenics programs embarked upon by the Nazis were modeled on policies of the USA,,,, the USA actually had a program that removed people deemed unfit to procreate from society,
          I find it interesting how our own ugly past is hidden from view and is only inadvertantly exposed through journalistic fill.
          Check out the NPR website and do a search for interviews eugenics, i would love to get the book, i would bet that people like Gates are fans of the eugenics movement from the early 20th century..

        • Godsoldier says:

          Im thinking the zika virus is punishment from god for all the abortions god is loveing and merciful but will not tollerate your shit he is vengeful

      • Philosopher says:

        LR: I read several books by M. Scott Peck. The one that impacted me the most was his book, “People of the Lie.” I had one family member tell me they thought it was a stupid book and they would never read it. I recommended another family member read it just this week. Along with the book and movie, “The Beans of Egypt, Maine.” I saw that movie on a local PBS channel years ago. It was a huge shock. It is probably the most profane and honest movie I have ever seen on PBS. After watching the movie I went on to read several books by the author. She still lives in Maine and married a man that is (or was) illiterate. I did a search last week and the author lives in a rural part of Maine with no plumbing. It doesn’t surprise me one bit. People in Maine are tough as nails. Always have been.

      • 3% r says:

        LR it’s actually “you shall not murder” which is an unjust killing. If it WAS “you shall not kill” then God Himself would be complicit in the deaths of many many people as it was Him who ordered the Israelites to wipe out all the tribes in the promised land down to every man, woman, child and even the livestock. God had a valid reason for this which I won’t get into, but it was not murder.

    11. Simmon says:

      I think we need to sue the politicians and their funders for F#$%%$# up our great country. Let’s take it back!!!

      • Kulafarmer says:

        The biggest problem with that is the fact that this mess is generations in the making, none of this crap happened over night, the only thing that has happened suddenly is individuals waking up and seeing the trees in the middle of this forrest, there are many many people amongst us in our government etc who are of a mind that we the people as a collective are stupid and need to be managed.

    12. fifth_disciple says:

      Hillary knows exactly what she’s doing. She relies on her base to except what she says at face value and never question it. She doesn’t care what her opposition thinks because they aren’t going to vote for her. Nothing can change that dynamic.

      All we can do is get the word out to independents and swing that vote to the conservative side this election.

      • john stiner says:

        Romney called it the 7% people, the independents.

        If Trump wins the primary, I think he will pull a lot of Democrats to his side, mainly because he has liberal views.

        • francis says:

          Lets hope so. Even though he shouldn’t be trusted as no politicians should be, he would be a nasty little set back for the establishment at least at this point Trump does not appear to be a member of or going along to get along with the NWO.

    13. Shouldn’t she be in prison?

      It’s almost like the Department of Justice is being run by a corrupt ally of Hillary, and refuses to prosecute her.

      • Braveheart1776 says:

        AC, the hildebeast should be pushing up daisies. The black racist jezebel running USDOJ will be out to get white people for no good reason. If she’s smart, she’ll drop that idea. If not…..

    14. Warchild Dammit! says:

      As always,millions of firearms in citizen hands,with 1000’s more daily along with ammo/mags ect.

      As always,a 100 bucks and a big box hardware ect. store can do a lot more damage cooking then with a firearm,horse out of the barn on so many levels!

      Oh,and as always,fuck billary!

      • Kulafarmer says:

        Yup,,, common household and lawn and garden chemicals and simple electronic devices have more potential energy than almost any piece of bang stick hardware you can find in a gun store,,,
        Anarchist cookbook, i have more faith in it than the bible,,,

      • Yolonda says:

        Some are speculating that the NWO wants the people heavily armed while the criminal element of government continues to manufacture a desperate situation in the USA, bankrupting, and using the divide and conquer strategies through the propaganda and george soros style and government provocateurs and so that the people will attack one another then they will come along and offer the solution which will be the full on implementation of their NWO.

    15. Braveheart1776 says:

      Warchild, I went out and stocked up on some more 9mm over the weekend myself plus bought 2 more mags for my Taurus. And yes, f#$% the hildebeast, by any and all means. Having goldfish as I type this.

    16. Asshat says:

      The thing is guns are our right. The big pharma industries should not have the right to immunity for chemical substances hurting people. Gun makers shouldn’t be held responsible if a gun is use unlawfully. It’s on the guy that pulled the trigger. I you use your car to rundown someone on purpose should it be the automakers fault. You could run somone over and say it was an accident even though you did it on purpose. They do not know the state of mind of a person at the time of the crime. Just because someone pisses you off doesn’t mean your gonna shoot them. people die everyday no matter what. No fairness and equality dream is gonna change that. Unfairness is part of life. I accept that I gotta work while the useless eaters don’t and have ALL the same things I have. it pisses me off just like the second amendment pisses off hitlery get over it bitch. I’m gonna cling to my bible and gun. I don’t care about the tragic stories. I’m not gonna be a statistic if I can protect myself. I will never take big pharma poison I’d rather live sick hell I put up with aches pains and ailments it’s what I call life deal with it. Enough with utopian dream crap. I’m not giving up my rights to believe in some bullshit I know is total fuckin nonsense. The brainwashing does not work on me. Everything I got I earned no one gave me shit. If I borrowed $ I paid it back. If I didn’t wanna borrow $ I made due with what I had or worked more to get the$. This free shit socialism doesnt work. It’s making a lot of people angry and they are not producing shit if they cannot keep all the fruits of their labor. Socialism didn’t work in the Soviet Union it’s not working in Venezuela and it will never work. Why can’t you geniuses in academia see this . Young people really believe they can achieve their utopian dreams. Smarten up your getting saddled with student loan debt. While the college and it’s professors are getting paid by you. College is a scam for most people. If it sounds to good to be true it is.

    17. Captain Fabuloso says:

      What about cigarettes and alcohol????

    18. wojo says:

      Here in CA they want to have us register our “assault rifles”. If this bill passes I will be an outlaw! Molon Labe!

    19. This kind of Pandora’s Box of Litigation or Liability would also mean vehicle makers of any kind would be similarly liable for any accidents regardless of driver error.

    20. WhoWTFknows... says:

      Obama knows most Blacks don’t qualify for guns because most blacks are Felons. And Most Whites do qualify. And he is trying to even up the odds.

      Hillary’s take on disarming us, is so the NWO can infiltrate, take over the USA with little resistance as they collapse the country as planned. We will soon get to know our neighbors very well as we stand shoulder to shoulder, armed to the teeth protecting our neighborhoods from outside invaders, foreign or domestic who wish to harm us. Think Red Dawn type situations, hidden in Fox holes near choke points, like at bridges and intersections, relaying Intel back to the 2nd and third tier neighborhood militia forces. 2 and 3 Man MINUTE Militia teams need to be formed ASAP. Have early warning signal bells or air horns to alert neighbors of incoming intruders. Every second will count to be ready at a moments notice. Practice and train. Everybody should have short wave portable radios and a channel to get the update of what’s coming in, and so they can quickly take position and surround the scoundrels as they empty out of their MRaps or vehicles. This could all be very real soon enough. Remember the Boston Bombing Martial law lockdown situation, AND ILLEGAL HOUSE TO HOUSE SEARCHES?. That was their test model. Take note…Prepare, Train and drill often. Critique, and see what works, and what and where your weak points are. Failing to plan, is a plan to fail. When you suceed, you take the enemies weapons and vehicles and add to your forces bounty. Have a plan to dispose of their bodies, as they will stack up fast. I’m thinking an endloader will come in handy.


    21. Satori says:

      too bad politicians don’t get sued for all the harm they cause

      • passinwiththewind says:

        God is allowing them to make their own noose.
        When the King of Kings returns, they will all be piled up in Hell, like cord wood, with their leader…that ole serpent.

        Sadly, there will be many like wwti right there with them. Those that have mocked and accused their Creator.

        Thankfully, God is just, and His judgment is soon to come. There is another decade, and then some, of this continuation of the Beast System being fully implemented. It will be a rough patch for the believers that haven’t had love for the truth, but followed man’s lies, like the pre-trib crapture doctrine.

        Some, like myself have been trying to bring truth forth, but the high minded and ignorant keep piling on the insults and negativity to the point of causing many folks to fall for their lies as well. They just refuse to listen. it will cost them a lot of undue suffering in the end.

        Prepping and being prepared begins with the soul. All other things will follow very easily if one has their heart in the right place from the get go.

        Religion is the trap that Christians fall into that keeps them in bondage. Truth is not based on any religion at all, it is a way of life. Real Christianity is based on God’s word and not a religious system like cat-o-licks or -ewdaism, etc.etc., that is based on “man’s words and systems”.

        Most people, especially secular thinking people, can’t separate the two. That is where the problems originate, when folks cling to one type of religion, instead of associating themselves with the true body of Christ, and following God’s letter, not man’s.

        The great revival of truth has started around the world. It is happening in small pockets around the USSAG, but the majority of American’s have rejected truth, and replaced it with acceptance of liberal, pc, ideology. Thus; the judgments will overshadow the revival of Christianity.
        God is callin on his soldiers to prepare for the biggest spiritual battle since the creation of this flesh age. There is nothing anyone can do to stop it now. North America was once the greatest Christian nation on earth, but caved in for greed and material wealth. The killing of over 100 million infants, some even past 20 weeks gestation in Canada, has been a looming death trap for this Continent.

        The final chance of turning away from insanity came last year for USSAG, when the gov made homosexuality and the marriage thereof, legal. A non repentant society is a doomed society, in general. As the judgments unfold, some will wake up and make an attempt to restore salvation to their lives. For most, sadly, it will be too little, too late.

        There is no one to blame but ourselves, for allowing the likes of the liberals/wolves, to outsmart/outplay/outwit, the people/sheep.

        We will reap what we have sown.

    22. Asshat says:

      Bullshit lawmakers. We do not need a new law every day. They would not be needed if we only made a new law once a year. Lawmakers are tyrants they need to be tarred and feathered like the tax man.

    23. Enemy of the State says:

      Good Hillary , you find the way to sue the gun Mfg..that should open the door to for the US citizens to sue our government

      and you personally for subjugating our personal safety and our rights

      L & L bitch !

    24. Ketchupondemand says:

      passin’, “The final chance of turning away from insanity came last year for USSAG, when the gov made homosexuality and the marriage thereof, legal.”

      Absolutely. Several of us took a short boating cruise the other night. One guy from out of state started on gay marriage, about boxer Pacquiao being dropped from a corporate sponsorship b/c he disagreed with gay marriage.

      When I said I also disagreed with it he told me he’d like to strangle me to death and throw me overboard, then “I have two kids that would not agree with you either.”
      Then he walked away.
      And I thought liberals were supposed to ‘tolerant’..
      I think he was against gay marriage until his two kids came out and he’s got a serious case of pent up anger.
      At any rate, that is the one thing you’ve said I agree with. Just trying to be civil here.
      But I have an honest question for you.

      Do you believe man is an animal or something other, higher?

      • Kulafarmer says:

        The left has historicly been the most vile and intolerant factions of society bar none…

      • Beaumont says:

        Ketchupondemand asked, “Do you believe man is an animal or something other, higher?”

        Biblically speaking, some people have been described as blind, tares, spiritually-dead, dogs, vipers, and asses.

        They see moral distinctions as trite formalities, or as being irrelevant, and they salivate at the sound of a bell.

        And, it is written, “A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool’s back.”
        Yes, really — Prov 26:3

      • passinwiththewind says:

        Just to show you that I am a man of reason and character, I will be civil towards you as well, and accept your white flag as a temporary truce, until i see you have grown past your condemnation of what i see as truth. In time if I see you have no animosity nor slander, I will completely forgive you, even if you don’t ask for it. Hope you see that I am not doing or saying anything to put myself up on some kind of pedestal like some here want to believe…but, I ain’t taking no shit either.

        OK. The best way I can answer your question is to say that we humans are the children of God. We existed with God and the King over us for a long time before this Age.

        In that age, there were only animals and fish in flesh bodies, ie, the dinosaurs. We were alive with spirit bodies, from the time God breathed life into our Spirit body, a body with mass, that required angels food. Those bodies may have had male genitalia then, or that may have come into being just before God needed this flesh age to come about.

        It saddened God that He had to make His children into flesh bodies, but it would have saddened Him more to have to kill/destroy the souls, of all those that turned against Him and their King, His only Son…which was Jesus before he became the Saviour.
        Satan was sentenced to die from the get go of his rebellion, and the “drawing” away of a third of God’s children, in that first Heaven and Earth Age.

        Many of those that fell with Satan/Lucifer, refused to be born of woman, but rather came to earth and bred with woman to produce the hybrids, which brought about the flood of Noah.
        We know from Revelation, a total of seven thousand will fall dead in the streets of Jerusalem, at the very end of this age.
        They are here with Satan as Antichrist, when Michael boots them from their Heavenly abode. Their fate was sealed when they refused to be born “through the waters” of a flesh woman.
        Another fact that pisses women off is that there were no females in the First Earth & Heaven Age. If there were females, they had no wombs, but we are not told there were any.
        In the eternal age, including the millennium, there will be no wombs or birthing, and possibly the new spirit bodies will not be male or female, as we know them now.

        Sorry to be so long winded with my response, but it needed saying, maybe not all for your benefit, but others that are not as educated on biblical facts.

        To say animal in the context of “those that breathe with lungs” we probably are considered as such by man and his limited wisdom. I personally see animal as a reference to beast animal either on dry land, or lunged creatures of the sea.

        • Jimbo says:


          Wow! He actually ” forgave ” you without your even asking for ” his” blessing! And he’s going to show you he’s a man of ” reason” too! AND he’s going to explain the theory of how life evolved too! Wow! All this from a retired truck driver who’s now THE go to source on how to get to Heaven. It’s amazing what a man can accomplish in his own mind. Ask him to tell you the story about how ” God” told him that was ” his” site and not Macs, and how about the guy who lost 10K worth of property by daring to ” mock” the words of the great passin. Yes sir, this guy is legendary in his own mind so you had best thank God that he has deemed fit to ” spare” you, at least for the time being or until he gets lost in another fit of extremely intelligent foaming at the mouth.

          • Genius says:

            Pissin, can you prove any of the shit you just said? A simple yes or no will do not some long winded attack to dodge the subject like usual. And since when is lying and hypocracy a trait of character?

        • Ketchupondemand says:

          let’s continue this later. But I must ask,
          do you believe there have been illuminated “man/mankind” (persons) throughout the ages besides Christ?
          And I’m not equating any one person with Christ the Master, just asking you if you believe others in history have attained similar wisdom?
          Please keep it short.

          • Ketchupondemand says:

            And, I didn’t raise the white flag. that means surrender, not truce.

          • passinwiththewind says:

            Yes. Short enough for you.

            White flag may equal surrender in your book, but in mine it is just a “pause in the conflict”, to see where we stand.

            Many a white flag was raised so two parties could keep their deadly attacks down long enough to get close enough to speak eye to eye to see if any common ground could be met.

            As you have proven nothing to me to make me believe you are nothing more than a liberal at heart, and liberals are always liars at some point, I could never trust you.

            You hurt any chance at forgiveness, when you made the comment about “hanging Christ back on the Cross, when and if He returns”. not quoting, but paraphrasing.

            Christ and the Father forgives, but until I see proof you will not always be the same mocker of Christ, I will never forgive nor forget.

            You and the other liberals don’t like what i have to say, and how i say it, don’t read me or ask any questions of me.

            You got that?

        • Jimbo says:

          Hey Mac,

          Why did you suddenly decide to delete comments that Genius and I had posted on here earlier in response to passin? That’s a new one, a guys comment gets posted and suddenly ” disappears?” What’s all this stuff about encouraging ” lively debate?” What about the ” disparagment” clause in your policy? Is it only enforced by you on certain posters and others get to spew whatever crap they like? How about explaining this to us?

          • Explanation: You post comment after comment in reply to the same person with the only point being to disparage THAT person. Literally, there will be five replies to the same person with basically the same comment, though you use different usernames to do so. That’s why.

            • Jimbo says:


              In that case I have another question for you about ” disparaging” comments. Obviously you must have missed the one where pissin called Rebecca a ” cunt”. Why did you let THAT one through, Mac? Not ” disparaging” enough for you censor THAT one? How about lil acid etch calling people ” disparaging” names? I notice he NEVER gets censored either when he swears at people here all the time, why is that? You have NO credibility about your so called ” disparaging” comments clause nonsense because it’s obvious for everyone here to see that you never enforce it equally for every poster here. And yes, I’ll be shocked if you indeed post this comment with a reasonable answer to why this situation has always been ongoing here.

              • Acid will attest to the fact that we indeed, do delete his comments en masse.

                Out of the hundreds of comments that come through here daily we manually delete about 3% (not including spam through automated system moderation), so there are a good deal of comments that users never see here, and for good reason. I wouldn’t label this moderation activity as “censoring” and would argue that we aren’t removing them because of a biased political, religious, etc. point of view. They are being deleted because they are intended to do nothing but create conflict.

                With regards to other comments making it through — we can’t catch everything passing through the comment areas and yes, we do miss some that shouldn’t make it through. Not much more I can say there.

                Jimbo, if you disagree with someone, just make your point and move on. I understand you disagree with others here. Totally fine. But do we really need a literal 20 comments about virtually the exact same thing in one comment thread? What ends up happening is that users who troll other users end up getting blanket deletions across their entire post string during a specific time frame because we simply do not have the ability in a day to read everything – so, frankly, it’s just easier to completely delete the entire string of comments to ensure we don’t miss something we shouldn’t. This may not seem fair, but please consider the time and effort required to moderate a forum like this.

                Constructive comments are welcome on the site. Debate. Argue. But can we do it with some civility (and this is directed at all of those who continue to hammer the same stuff here – you know who you are and we will, indeed, delete if necessary)?

                Thanks All.


                • Philosopher says:

                  Mac, fair enough.

                • Jimbo says:


                  I stand corrected, you did post my comment and while I don’t entirely agree with everything you’ve explained I will accept the facts as they are. You are enough of a stand up guy to explain the situation and not ignore it as I expected. So for that, my hat’s off to you and I will make every attempt to keep my posts on a more civil footing. For the record, I didn’t want to use different poster names but when my comments were being deleted so often I used this ploy in an attempt to circumnavigate the system, that’s why I used the different handles.

                  • Jimbo, regarding those usernames: I know 🙂 hehe

                    I appreciate your response here and thank you for your regular contributions in the comment forums. This web site has always been guided by its users and my aim is to keep it that way. Things can get a bit crazy sometimes, I get that. Keeping it all under control can be difficult at times, and I, admittedly, may overreact a little when there are several users just hammering each other, but it’s more out of frustration than anything else. I have seen some great readers and contributors leave because there was just too much of it going on – I am just trying to avoid that from happening whenever possible.



    25. Sgt. Dale says:

      Hellory should be worried about going to jail. Than suing gun manufactures.

      I’d love to see this commie bitch in jail. I wonder if she would be the bull or the cow? Can you just see Bill if this happens. “I didn’t have sex with those 500 woman, while my wife was in jail”. “Ok I did because she had 500 why can’t I”. Bill


      • Philosopher says:

        Sgt, you and me both. If she doens’t get indicted that is proof that there is a two-tiered Justice system in the USSA. One for us and another one for them.

    26. Really??? says:

      Hmmm… Full immunity from vaccines? Maybe she needs a lead vaccine then.

    27. Beaumont says:

      Is there any libertarian precedent, or can there be one, for suing weapons dealers, complicit in state terrorism, regardless of which state.

      Or, does the industry really matter, at this point.

    28. Observer says:

      The Clinton Crime Family gave the final orders for the murder of the women and children at the Waco church grounds back during Bill’s administration. Never forget.

      • aljamo says:

        Observer… I read that Hillary made the final decision on Waco. She was involved heavily with her healthcare push. Since her husband was president and she acted as his equal, that disqualifies her for holding the office, she already had her 8 years. GTFO you lying murderous bitch.

    29. Godsoldier says:

      Zika virus will be next to make people get vaccine they already know how they will use it as far as controlling the masses rhyme reason and manipulation you cannot be in society if you pose a threat by not being vaccinated so off to the camp with ya

      • Godsoldier says:

        And the ones who are vaccinated will have proof via chip medical record that is easily scanned they can buy sell and exist in society cus money can have on it transfer viruses electronic money is clean

    30. aljamo says:

      Who would be dumb enough to accept any vaccination from the corrupt medical establishment? Trusting guinea pig American’s, that’s who. Why is the government FDA in cahoots with Big Pharma to poison the population? Mercury, aluminum, nagalase to induce cancer, all intentionally in vaccines, plus who knows what else. The doctors constantly push statins which have been revealed to damage arteries and harm millions. Big Pharma has sold billions of dollars in statins. We don’t need their drugs and they need to be put out of their evil business agenda. It appears they have immunity for damage done ongoing from vaccines. They won’t stick a needle in me ever. That includes th VA.

    31. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

      Houston Texas freeway naked dred lock mental fail attack.. someone need to post a link because this can’t be true.

      Off topic.. did you all hear about the dred lock attack on 290.. large overweight African American woman stops down butt… ass naked within mike’s of my residence then jumps on top of and 18 wheeler climbing up to the top of it in front on everyone right on why 290.. personally I have it done. search because I don’t want to puke.. let me know why you filing because people are going ape sh..t ballistic in my city.. wtf? As for the gun grabbing, I have to laugh and say the usual, Molon labe bitches come and take it chi- coms.



      Yes the world really is a bad place to live in….

    32. Karl says:

      What, you aren’t going to say anything about the asteroid that missed us by 3 million miles yesterday? What about Nibiru? Isn’t it supposed to wipe us all out next month? What about dave hodges, Dr. James Garrow, scientist friend and four star general? Haven’t they confirmed yet again for the umpteenth time that there’s nothing left for us but ” horrific doom?” Are there any other ” worlds” for us to live in that aren’t ” really bad places?” Exactly when can we expect to all be wiped out by all the bad things that you have been saying for going on two years now? What are you going to do next month when Nibiru hasn’t wiped us all out yet? Pull a mike synder and make it another year into the future? How about the ever ” imminent” invasions of dred lock zombies, Chinese troops waiting in disguise in Houston to launch an attack, Russian ” spetznas” troops who are going to take away all the gold from Texas? How about giving us all an exact, specific date when all these things you’ve been claiming will happen for years now will actually occur? Surely a man with such notable inside contacts as yourself must be privy to the time frame when we can expect ” horrific doom” to encircle us. And for the record, I don’t belong to any ” azz” agency, I’m just a regular guy who wants to hear some facts from you for a change about all your doom and despair predictions that never seem to quite materialize, so go ahead please, I’m ready to hear the times, dates, places, everything.

    33. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

      I havent found that link yet, still doing the search? i have done it. Excuse my type o, meant done the search not the act. Anything yet? Not like i care to see it.



      • Karl says:

        No hcks, I’m asking YOU for the dates and times of your predictions. YOU are the one making all the claims of doom and despair, not me. So please, go ahead and start giving all of us the information we need from you.

    34. Karl says:

      Hcks, I’ll try to explain this as slowly as I can to you as I’m aware of your difficulty to understand basic English. You see, it is I who is asking YOU to provide the times and dates, NOT the other way around. If you need any further clarification on the subject, feel free to ask me again. So, with that behind us, I’m ready to hear all the dates and times and places so please, proceed.

    35. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf says:

      Karl. Eat sh…t and go phuck your self let me make a prediction for you that I would like yo to challenge. Donald Trump wil pick Ted Cruz as his VP.. tell me that this is BS and then prove it to be BS.. you will be changing your handle soon and eat your gay lovers ass tonight..



    36. Karl says:

      That’s brilliant hcks, Trump will pick Cruz as VP and I’m supposed to ” eat my gay lovers ass”. Yeah, as usual, another completely BS post when you are asked a boatload of questions about timing for your endless stream of doom and destruction. It’s time for you to admit the truth, you can’t answer any direct questions about any of your two years of predicted doom events. Why? Because you’ve been playing some kind of half assed game with everyone here for 2 years just to see how many suckers you can keep on the hook. What I can’t understand is why anybody would continue to take you seriously when you’ve shown time and again you can never answer a direct question. Did you see me ask you anywhere about Trump or who will be his VP? Who the Hell cares about THAT? Why not try to answer some of the questions you were actually ASKED to answer? Is ” eat shit” all you’ve got as an answer to honest questions? No, you don’t need to reply, everyone knows you’ll never be able to do that intelligently, it would mean you’d have to admit you’re only gaming everyone who thinks you’re really anything more then a BS slinger.

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